#pvp-arena

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mystic rain
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do u have the resources to build those characters tho

keen vapor
dire root
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Actually I can

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but no other B3 would have to be on the team

gritty ridge
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You can cleanse siren with sora or ade too

mystic rain
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nah indom doesnt need to be p1

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as long as ur target dps has lower hp than ur linked units she will get indom

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good for u since jackal is defender so she naturally has high hp and attacker naturally have low hp

gritty ridge
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Sr5 and base ol typically makes jackal tanky enough to work

mystic rain
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2RL indom wont stun p1

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cuz 2RL b1 is faster than stun timing

dire root
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Also just realized, even if indom doesn't burst she still acts as a meat shield

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Does a indom jackal link kill everyone else if hit? I assume so

mystic rain
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depends on whos hitting

dire root
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Lost

mystic rain
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also would depend if u can indom before the nuke hits

keen vapor
dire root
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team 2 winning is RNG I just discovered

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I would have won if RNG went my way

mystic rain
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if u indom before b3 jackal and other linked unit will die but indom target lives

dire root
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they just happened to win every other time with luck

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expect for the time it decided the match

mystic rain
mystic rain
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much easier than blanc biscuit

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and those are the only ways to have at least some idea of where/whom indom will go to

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like in his case, centi jackal are defender so they should never get indom at all

dire root
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Indom isn't needed, I learned, they did almost no damage and had so many MGs feeding jackal that Ein instantly killed them

mystic rain
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that only leaves ein and helm as indom targets

dire root
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I thought the defict would crush me

mystic rain
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and whoever has lower hp between ein and helm WILL get indom

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100%

dire root
dire root
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so the defict would be less harsh

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Scarlet isn't very useful without Trina

mystic rain
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wym

dire root
mystic rain
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but she did tho

dire root
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she did last attempt but not this one

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I was just showing the team I threw, that was last match

mystic rain
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this is so confusing lmao

dire root
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so that fight is RNG

mystic rain
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siren rh is slow as hell

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and ur fighting vs scar 2RL

dire root
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Well they won last time

mystic rain
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im surprised u didnt die before then

dire root
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Their team 1 is super weak

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I wasn't expecting to crush them that easily

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Jackal and enemy MGs go hard

mystic rain
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yea tghats how jackal works

dire root
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Didn't want to use jackal on them I was scared of their big combat power number before

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I assumed they would kill all 3 nikkes in 3 seconds

mystic rain
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u can always check deficit on some nikke deficit caluclator

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15-20% is usually doable with proper teams

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but it is hard

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even more so if ur in deficit AND the guy ur hitting has actual pvp teams and not just some auto click team

dire root
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I guess that explains why they died so easily

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the gap seemed way bigger

mystic rain
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14% isnt in deficit

dire root
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Yeah it isn't, I just thought the gap was larger then it was

mystic rain
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just barely over it

dire root
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Guess it was wise to add scarlet cp pad

mystic rain
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tho tbh if u see cp stack team and ur deficit isnt that high it should be free win

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lots of teams out there that can fight even in deficit vs campaign/cp padding teams

dire root
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A lot of time the lower syncs can't over power it

mystic rain
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scar 2RL double buff can win easily up to 21% from my experience

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moran nero stall team can also win vs deficit

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any vesti team can and WILL kill everyone and anyone even in deficit

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tho i personally dont know what her ceiling is

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knowledge > money afterall

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unless its an insane amount of money spent for core dust

dire root
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It's funny that my tetra nikke bracket never fully recovered, I wishlisted a bunch of tetra nikkes in order to get over the wall when I was 160.

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so that stopped a lot of new tetra nikkes during those early days

tropic summit
fickle jetty
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will try it later

shell hazel
covert lintel
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<@&946725432554836008>

swift mango
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Ada buff b1 rapi?🫃

shell hazel
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apparently

swift mango
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Gotta test it later. RapiWaiting

shell hazel
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<@&946725432554836008>

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I'm just going by what people have said here

swift mango
shell hazel
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yes she is not a b3 according to her burst type

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and I think rapi counts because she is a b3 who is just doing b1

swift mango
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Crown finally powercrept.

shell hazel
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long time before crown is properly powercrept even if we get someone objectively better

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she'll be 2nd best b2 in raids then instead of 1st

swift mango
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Who care about raid? It's all about the best in Campaign. hmmz

upper grove
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Ein Ada is lowest MC clear atm with rapipi b1 pepehmmm

glad glade
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Oh you’ve seen that crazy video from that korean too?

upper grove
upper grove
glad glade
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Nah thats fair, though its not for waste. True damage is utterly bonkers in all of campaign deficit

swift mango
upper grove
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don't think so, ein profits so much from ada S1

glad glade
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Like, Besti is unironically one of the best campaign deficit pushers because her AoE+TD decimates top priority peons, allowing you to focus on the elites

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Its crazy

quick lake
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pvp unit being used in campaign KEKL

swift mango
upper grove
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but you are not doing it sub 1m cp vs MC though without that invest

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that ada was 0 dupes as well

swift mango
glad glade
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If Ada is invested too then I could push at even crazier deficits

quick lake
swift mango
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There are 2 ways to have a strong Campaign unit. Roll for Ele and roll for CP. You could do both. But if you could only do one thing, then either is as good as each other. hmmz

glad glade
quick lake
glad glade
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Here’s an example of her effectiveness

upper grove
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true dmg really effective vs high deficit

swift mango
# glad glade

Lowest clear but 20 level above the 2nd guy is the real bricked. hmmz

quick lake
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Base defence mobs a quite clustered hmm, maybe i’ll try once theres new stages

glad glade
quick lake
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Im thinking on whether I should sink more rocks into Alice pain

covert lintel
glad glade
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So she’s effective for PvP too

upper grove
crystal flicker
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We have plenty fire PvE tho

swift mango
upper grove
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I'm doing that instead, alice rapipi for fire weak is enough at 40-42% deficit

covert lintel
glad glade
swift mango
glad glade
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His MC clear is sync 445

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Its bonkers

upper grove
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445 PepeTF

quick lake
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Im just thinking what will be the best campaign team going forward pepehmmm

upper grove
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he also got to ch 32 sub 421 which is VERY unusual

quick lake
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All this sweaty pushing

upper grove
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I'm still stuck at CC 31 with 500 bars left at 418 sadge

swift mango
glad glade
upper grove
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49% deficit just for the sake of it isn't even fun to me anymore

glad glade
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I can smell true damage on the new pilgrim

upper grove
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they have to make her good besides just true dmg though otherwise she'll end up mid in other pve content pepehmmm

glad glade
upper grove
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40-44% sure, that's fine but stuff higher than that tends to become a slog

glad glade
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Rip forgot this was maincord

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But yeah, thats why units like Ein, Ada, and Besti are so good. They’re basically AoE focused units that are really good at killing peons

upper grove
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  • true dmg for malders
mystic rain
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🌹

upper grove
glad glade
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For example, Ada’s S2 can lob grenades at the enemies once in a while. These grenades are not only TD, but also AoE, making her incredibly effective. In addition, she could buff TD like there’s no tmr

upper grove
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I won't brick my progress to achieve that lvl of malding though

mystic rain
glad glade
mystic rain
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probably the only mechanically insane nikke player ive seen do manual play

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hes just consistent with his clicks man damn

glad glade
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And I’m already malding 40%+ on campaign

upper grove
quick lake
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Man, im abit out of touch of recent units sadge

mystic rain
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iirc he mentioned he even got banned by the game for being too good KEKW

upper grove
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I only scum pause tech if needed but after long malding sessions my RH/alice sniping gets worse if I don't take breaks

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like a LOT worse

glad glade
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Besti has that auto rocket thing and Ein is Ein

upper grove
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Ada works for any content, you can see klo using her and vesti vs fire weak

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sure vesti and rapipi b1 get ele advantage but ada is just there to buff

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but to clarify: if your alice/vesti/rapi are built enough you don't really need ada for those stages sub 45% deficit

swift mango
glad glade
quick lake
upper grove
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just like you can go RH rapipi vs iron weak and not really require ada/vesti at 40-45% because both are that good in campaign

glad glade
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Thats why I use RH in my deficit clears with Besti, even though MMast is better

quick lake
shell hazel
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i'm not clearing CC 31 until 421 sync, thought you were past it warudo?

glad glade
upper grove
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I'm at 500 bars left 418 sync, I could mald it tomorrow with resil 13

quick lake
upper grove
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421 cc will just die without really trying

shell hazel
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ah not worth crating to 421 for it?

shell hazel
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extra cd/hour for all other crates on the new chapters then, or think you probably get it before anni anyway

upper grove
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according to sheet I'll hit 421 straight with anni patch

glad glade
upper grove
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I can hit 461 if I open boxes once anni patch roughly ends

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if new unit is great for MC as well I'll give it a shot pepehmmm

glad glade
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@tropic summit put it best: it challenges skill but in the worst way possible through stat inflation

shell hazel
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I keep track of mine, 421 jump is still a bit away but on schedule to get it by the anni roughly

glad glade
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I heard even klo is getting tired of HM pushing lol

upper grove
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I'm lazy and just use the commcord sheet KEKW

upper grove
shell hazel
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I just plug in some stats and it works out how many hours I have/need etc

swift mango
shell hazel
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it's crazy you have almost 40 levels of crates stored though

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418 to 461?

swift mango
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Whaling for rock is much more expensive. BurninKek

quick lake
glad glade
upper grove
upper grove
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should be a bit earlier considering I hit higher outpost lvl with anni patch and more boxes ofc

swift mango
quick lake
upper grove
quick lake
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I’ve been lazy on AI clears CrownHUH

glad glade
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And its on mobile too, so I gotta suffer with the 10% MG debuff

quick lake
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ironically building UR units lmao

upper grove
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AI ultra was the most malding but fun so far. indi is even worse malding but just no fun at all

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kraken and harvester are free kills, MC is just cindy check

glad glade
quick lake
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Gotta specialise in an element eventially CrustDerp

glad glade
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And spending a month rerolling RH’s double locked helmet for a line 1 ele

upper grove
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I had to juggle RH b1 timing a bit

glad glade
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Looks like Mihara’s going for that route too…

upper grove
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my RH was lucky with 92 ele 29 atk in less than 50 rolls

glad glade
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E x p l o d e

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My RH is still 83% lol. I never wanna roll her again. I never felt angrier than rerolling every day on her

upper grove
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I'll have my sweet revenge vs ultra without mald once I have SW built

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that big laser must be so satisfying

swift mango
upper grove
swift mango
upper grove
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my siren still has only 2 ele after more than 100 rocks

swift mango
upper grove
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mix of both, if I have atk line on 3

quick lake
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Happens sadge

glad glade
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Yeah…

quick lake
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My worse is still rosanna to get 4x atk, is 50+ rocks pain

upper grove
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you win some you lose some AnisShrug

swift mango
upper grove
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maximum gacha mindset, only gamba KEKW

upper grove
swift mango
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That was when Ammo was a good line so I locked it. pain

glad glade
glad glade
glad meteor
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But it took me forever to get her

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Rng will rng

swift mango
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On top of doro and Modernia but I don't care about them.

swift mango
quick lake
shell hazel
limber isle
hollow lagoon
worthy knoll
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Fenrir, just in case you lurk here, just DM me so we can coordinate our attacks

raven plover
limber isle
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Guys this team that I got recommended who to prioritize after sbs scarlet and rh?

hollow lagoon
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Gonna camp until like 541 something at whatever black snake thing

hollow lagoon
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Unironically correct

limber isle
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But I want that champion frame CrownHUH

hollow lagoon
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Champ frame gets old

onyx scaffold
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unless u aim for those bronze color frames

worthy knoll
limber isle
hollow lagoon
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Idk maybe ur bracket is super copium

onyx scaffold
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like give up on raid and tower

hollow lagoon
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But if u get grouped with people +2 month above u u still have no chance

onyx scaffold
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the CA bracket is grouped with new players too so whoever put more effort and money can win

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just get lucky

hollow lagoon
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ā€œCanā€

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It’s 75% lucky 25% investment

onyx scaffold
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the first step is, make sure u can get top in SpA

gaunt pulsar
hollow lagoon
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U only invest ca if ur like top of ur spa bracket

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Cuz u know u can pulverize everything so u have no pressure to pull ahead in other areas

limber isle
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Will prioritizing solo raid be better?

hollow lagoon
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U get gem

gaunt pulsar
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no, even worse idea

hollow lagoon
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Vs ca where u don’t get gem

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Solo raid is slow burn however

onyx scaffold
onyx scaffold
hollow lagoon
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One day ur account just clicks and u start getting 3% in solo raid and ur pertty much golden from there

onyx scaffold
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but a lot ppl dont care about pvp

limber isle
onyx scaffold
hollow lagoon
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Good is your own perspective

onyx scaffold
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if u cannot get top 4, there is no champion arena for u

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2k gems is a reasonable stop point for casual players

gaunt pulsar
# gaunt pulsar no, even worse idea

i meant, solo raid vs spa obv, spa focus wins imo, solo raid is impossible for 2 month account, i feel like even for half a year account it would be a mess, it's all about having the right units and even invest in them, and if you are not a whale that has lots of units you not gonna climb there much, especially when elements of bosses rotate and you need new units for each one

limber isle
hollow lagoon
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Solo raid ur not touching that 3% as of now

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And ur def not touching top 100 unless current reigning top players decide to collectively quit

onyx scaffold
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but they have fun.. ig

limber isle
hollow lagoon
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Do that

onyx scaffold
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u always invest more that what you get in return
for example, currently u earn 2k gems from spa without much care
to get top 10 for 2200 gems, u will spend thousands gems for units and such

limber isle
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Thanks a lot guys

hollow lagoon
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Ur cooked but u can start new account and pull out wallet, but u might have to change name because u don’t be single pull redhood no more

hollow lagoon
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240pull arcana

limber isle
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And 250 pulls no ssr hmmz

hollow lagoon
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Oh u beat me

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Not sure if that’s a good thing

raven plover
slate falcon
swift mango
swift mango
gaunt pulsar
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500 pulls - no rate up should be possible, 500 pulls - no ssr of any kind i think isn't

swift mango
gaunt pulsar
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if it was 2% banner maybe NovelHmm

shell hazel
raven plover
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there was someone on twitter who did 700 pulls on siren banner, only got 1 siren OK

gaunt pulsar
raven plover
slate falcon
fathom rock
swift mango
swift mango
fathom rock
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What was CrownHUH

swift mango
swift mango
fathom rock
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Ryo had 500+ no banner ssr tho

covert lintel
swift mango
swift mango
fathom rock
swift mango
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Lie lie pant on fire NovelHmm

covert lintel
raven plover
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I won on Ada banner surely I win on anni PrayBless

swift mango
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I think the guy who used to be with 500 pulls no SSR tag was typing something and stopped. pepehmmm

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@crystal flicker that was you?

crystal flicker
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Wdym clueless

swift mango
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I remember some one here had that episode and quitted game for some months

crystal flicker
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I don't remember the number, but I'm not quitting for that reason, maybe another guy pepehmmm

river dune
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@tropic summit

onyx scaffold
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Saw a guy spent 480 pulls for queency
Another got 5 Ada within a multi

shell hazel
primal charm
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just 5-0. brutal

umbral belfry
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@glad glade no more pies for u

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(gg) let's do it again some time AliceLove

shell hazel
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@noble hatch turns out more than just the cindy match went in my favour lmao

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20% voted for me on this one, stealing credit crates off everyone

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you win Hime?

shell hazel
rich ledge
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sad noises

umbral belfry
umbral belfry
rich ledge
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not sure to still go with soda scarlet next time or have jackal scarlet. if so then my vesti wont have jackal

shell hazel
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top 8? lock in

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I have some tough competition here for sure, tenshi is here and moran guy

brave breach
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bumping this?

rich ledge
rich ledge
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time it takes for rocket launcher to launch 3 shots, it will enter burst in 3 shots

burnt girder
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oh ok

keen vapor
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Best third team for now will be auto team unless you tell me you have Summer Anis at 10/10/9 skills

covert lintel
keen vapor
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She will burst gen regardless

bleak marsh
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@umbral belfry I KNEW BELIEVING IN PIES WOULD WORK LETSGO LETSGO

And guess who got a group that also has the same name as you...? Or wait, is that you?! PogU

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(thank you for the help, by the way!! So...now what..?)

raven flume
bleak marsh
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So...who are we voting for in the top 4?

gritty ridge
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Me

bleak marsh
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I got hime vs Eli

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Unless you're Eli then... PogU PogU

umbral belfry
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that's me Doro AliceLove I'm hime

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I should win as well

shell hazel
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I'm Hime AliceLove

umbral belfry
shell hazel
formal quiver
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im him

umbral belfry
shell hazel
umbral belfry
bleak marsh
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CONGRATS ON TOP 8 LETSGO

umbral belfry
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it's pie cheering time

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thanks! Doro

bleak marsh
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🫔 I got you down as my cheer

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RIDE OR DIE 😤
i believe

umbral belfry
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as God planned it 🄧

bleak marsh
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i tried looking at the teams and you know what, screw it 😤
gonna just believe in you

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I also don't know what I am looking at om

umbral belfry
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there's 4 pies currently in top 8 rn

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we will rise fight

bleak marsh
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so how do you think your match will go? PauseChamp

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unbiased of course, but honestly, bias is fine too PEPW

I only ask because you got like...so many RL's in your teams om

umbral belfry
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the only way I see myself losing t1 (and the match) is if my scar fails to wipe max cores

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as noise and noah will be stunned (won't matter bc they're 3rl)

bleak marsh
umbral belfry
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so it leans my win

bleak marsh
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i believe scar will be able to do it
I'll send you my energy 😤

umbral belfry
tropic summit
bleak marsh
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no matter what, the pies are in each quarter, holy om

acoustic light
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u see the 🄧 vision poggies

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and radeki is an honorary pie

small surge
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glad i got away from Radeki

worldly osprey
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@swift mango i hope your soda stuns blanc (just like i always do KEKW ) and get the win prayge

unique mountain
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U beatin brxshan or nah Goldless
@kind palm

umbral belfry
small surge
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gatekept me from champion so many times Orange_Pensive

umbral belfry
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I heard Sadge game bullying you

kind palm
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you predict for me

unique mountain
bleak marsh
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We love that confidence here

kind palm
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I hope emmas get another win

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for the meme

glad glade
placid bloom
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pie giving you constipation susge

glad glade
onyx scaffold
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can i win? any suggestion?

placid bloom
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should be winnable

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Moran Bay not particularly good except into Scarlet

slate falcon
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That’s low-key a fire team by the enemy

slate falcon
placid bloom
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if you want you can bring a buffer pepehmmm

onyx scaffold
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how

placid bloom
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just need 5 cs on Vesti

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you won't die pre-burst while linked

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unless your RH has less HP and mess up your indom pepehmmm

slate falcon
placid bloom
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but you can maybe solve with vigor cube

placid bloom
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Ada works too but Ada probably less invested than Vesti TimiProud

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so high chance to mess indom

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unless your Ada has beefy HP

umbral belfry
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@glad glade if there's any solace, you beat me in pve

placid bloom
umbral belfry
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I fear I will be stuck at MC until the end of time

glad glade
placid bloom
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just blue CP

placid bloom
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you are like 70% of the way there

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or something

umbral belfry
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I heavily doubt that LMAO

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I'm still at the last CC!!!

glad glade
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For non bossing stages, I highly recommend you use Besti. She’s so good in campaign, its utterly ridiculous

placid bloom
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Vesti Ada new meta TimiProud

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time to build your Ada

glad glade
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I’m not doing it yet. I could smell true damage on the new pilgrim

placid bloom
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well she is still the best flex buffer

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60 caster Atk 40 true dmg

glad glade
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True. And she’s really good at gathering burst gen, so you could use MMast

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When I used besti the first time, I had to go with RH instead of MMast because of the burst gen issue

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Speaking of which, have you seen that crazy MC clear with Ada+Ein?

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umbral belfry
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besti hard carrying non bosses

glad glade
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Ikrr

umbral belfry
glad glade
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Turns 8 priority targets into 1

umbral belfry
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I mean it's not a horrible investment assuming I ever use her in pvp

glad glade
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All hail God emperor Besti

placid bloom
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I am already using her as buffer for PvP pepehmmm

umbral belfry
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I got nothing to lose poggies

placid bloom
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but I think she is better as dps than buffer

upper grove
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Investing with anni so soon pepehmmm

placid bloom
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well it's just initial OL

placid bloom
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and 10/4/4

umbral belfry
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If anything I'm waiting after anni

umbral belfry
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I'm patient with hard malding. ada can wait

upper grove
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Anni winter NY

umbral belfry
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anis NY poggies

placid bloom
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I still have books to max 1 unit at minimum before resets

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if I need to max 2 I will just reset someone useless pepehmmm

upper grove
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You have useless units to reset gold books? poggies

umbral belfry
placid bloom
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time to reset Eve clueless

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and Raven

umbral belfry
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idek who I'm resetting this time

glad glade
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Your HoF ultra clear?

umbral belfry
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I gotta look

upper grove
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Eve never saw a gold book in her life KEKW

glad glade
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Mine doesn’t even have gear

placid bloom
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no point worrying about museum at my sync

glad glade
placid bloom
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I can't get 10 points even if I kept her built

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I will worry about it at like sync 450 hmmz

upper grove
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450 soon hmmz

glad glade
#

My iron units outside of rapi and RH are garbage, so I don’t think I could make it. If i had proper investment, then I probably could mald Ultra at 427 sync

placid bloom
#

you're beefy enough to tank the slam?

glad glade
#

Not at this current moment sadge

placid bloom
#

feel like under 450 you just die pepehmmm

glad glade
#

Ikr

placid bloom
#

maybe we will get more shield units clueless

glad glade
#

I’m in no rush though. My ark shard ranking rivals are filthy casuals who don’t even have SR3 frames. I’m gonna be fine

upper grove
#

Have to eat a slam and heal up so you can cover poison for some teams without shielders/liter

glad glade
#

Though this one guy is really annoying in elysion growth ranking. Somehow he has so much elysion dupes

placid bloom
#

hidden tech, 1 Noah team and 1 Zwei team clueless

glad glade
#

Noah might actually be interesting

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There’s enough time between the ground slams to time her invincibility, so you could actually save cover without risking death

placid bloom
#

Nero Moran team clueless

glad glade
oblique ridge
#

Cheer successfully failed again poggies I’m closing in on the silver frame!

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Got the Keripo matchup this time!

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3 cheers left including this one, if I’m lucky it’ll be Keripo all 3 times

swift mango
#

Not bad. cocoathumb
Next one I got cheers less than opponent. But whatever is fine. pepehmmm

umbral belfry
#

blood fighting a super bot poggies

swift mango
#

Yeah vote for Collab. BurninKek

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I should have vote for Dragon ball too just to see how Bulma and Android 18 looks like in Nikke art style.

I guess No.18 has enough power to destroy all rapture and bring peace to Earth in a single day. pepehmmm

keen vapor
shell hazel
#

damn 0 rock kraken two days in a row, thanks daddy shiftup :0

keen vapor
swift mango
tropic summit
swift mango
keen vapor
#

No way sad

tropic summit
#

this game needs more interesting legs pepehmmm

tropic summit
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
shell hazel
#

when your opponent puts their only b2 at p1

tropic summit
#

his faith is weak

shell hazel
#

who broke discord images? 😮

keen vapor
keen vapor
keen vapor
#

Yo no lo entiendos

shell hazel
#

all my images are sat loading :9

tropic summit
keen vapor
swift mango
tropic summit
#

at least the world already knows how sh*tty it can get before we also step in it CrownHUH

shell hazel
#

that sg team is up against my noise team, hopefully she lives long enough at p1 šŸ˜„

shell hazel
#

it might be

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we'll see

tropic summit
#

you need split tank to survive it

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or research advantage like blood's opponents

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he can't even kill p5 unprotected rumani against some

shell hazel
#

I knew it was risky with noise as only b1 going in anyway

tropic summit
#

you probably were like "pff what are the odds i get SG team, on defense side"

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and RNG marked that down for reference hmmz

shell hazel
#

haha, always possible

shell hazel
#

my vesti may be lethal to their p1/p2 anyway

tropic summit
umbral belfry
#

unless the SGs are baby

shell hazel
#

nah don't look baby

umbral belfry
#

then allow me to show you what's gonna happen

thin perch
#

Is it 17% charge speed to get the RL speed boost?

lone sequoia
swift mango
tropic summit
leaden canyon
#

how do I beat this in SP arena, rosanna doesn't work on it and I'm using biscuit and noah on another team

keen vapor
lone sequoia
keen vapor
tropic summit
thin perch
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Cause my rapunzel with the adjutant cube has 16.88% cs increase

lone sequoia
thin perch
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16.88-2.12

lone sequoia
#

for pvp RLs you want more cs in most of them, rapu cp depends in the ammo you have and you will probably want 4cs+4def+2ammo

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so... 3~4 cs is good in most of the teams if you have the 2ammo lines

leaden canyon
tropic summit
tropic summit
leaden canyon
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Noise taunt is on the basic attack

lone sequoia
#

is noise linked?

tropic summit
keen vapor
tropic summit
#

you ran helmT in those positions?

leaden canyon
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yeah jackal helm emilia blanc laplace

tropic summit
#

oh you ran that one

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try stalling with a biscuit locked p1

leaden canyon
#

I cant

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My other team is using biscuit

tropic summit
#

can we change those teams?

leaden canyon
#

it cant be removed

tropic summit
#

else you gonna need to show your box becase we don't know your units available and not used elsewhere

swift mango
leaden canyon
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I cant remove noah biscuit

lone sequoia
leaden canyon
#

No matter what I put into that noise team it doesn't work

lone sequoia
leaden canyon
#

no

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she has got indom before but its when I run a lot of hard hitting stuff that hits p1

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and i was running rosanna

tropic summit
leaden canyon
#

I cant fix it with my luck on lines

keen vapor
#

@hoary maple I suggest you to wait till hero attacks then get to C3 pepehmmm

I have free slots on my friend list btw

tropic summit
swift mango
lone sequoia
#

same bracket?

keen vapor
#

My dreams coming true

leaden canyon
covert lintel
leaden canyon
swift mango
# leaden canyon

team 1 could go with Moran p1 , Cindy p5 filling the middle with cp pad.

leaden canyon
#

oh on that team

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Yeah even with rosanna on that team

lone sequoia
#

can't use rosanna in the cp team?

leaden canyon
#

no it doesn't kill vesti

lone sequoia
#

i mean in the scarlet cp team

leaden canyon
#

I would die because cp issue

lone sequoia
#

do you have nero or makima?

leaden canyon
#

I have tried nero moran helm rapunzel lap before and it didn't work

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I'm at cp deficit

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also no makima

lone sequoia
#

you can just sac scarlet in p5 and add trina/rosanna for burst gen+a nuke

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or low dmg

gritty ridge
#

Dont you love sg team vs no attackers

covert lintel
lone sequoia
gritty ridge
#

Sugar?

lone sequoia
#

yep, sugar

covert lintel
#

Just don't be afraid to failhmmz
I fought a higher cp issue than youCrownHUH

gritty ridge
#

Next CA ill have t.poli as my b2 actually

lone sequoia
#

or you can use blanc (?)

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i prefer that SG team over poli

gritty ridge
#

Blanc is not going on sg team when my slow cindy has a 100% wr

covert lintel
#

My scar team was like this in the past and still wonhmmz

keen vapor
lone sequoia
gritty ridge
lone sequoia
gritty ridge
#

Slow cindy beating its counterDoro

lone sequoia
#

crown buff against slow teams or you can just abuse biscuit S2

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not a counter

covert lintel
leaden canyon
keen vapor
lone sequoia
leaden canyon
#

but its usually scarlet trina centi rosanna jackal

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or hood instead of rosanna

lone sequoia
# keen vapor Really?

cindy team should be the counter for scarlet, but in this case is mihara who kills with the time you get from biscuit s2+blanc, so the safe worked

topaz bison
#

Is there no way to view battles of when people attack you in SP or rookie arena? All i can see is if i win or lose not really helpful

lone sequoia
#

but you can stalk people to know what they use if you don't know how to counter your own teams

gritty ridge
#

Its one of the few teams it loses to

lone sequoia
#

that is the reason you use mihara

gritty ridge
#

Double buff scar will almost always kill everyone but p1, its usually blanc p1 rumani p3

lone sequoia
#

rumani p1 is weaker against siren teams but work better against scarlet because blanc can just proc with scarlet S2

gritty ridge
#

Yeah, I use the version cuz i dont have invested rumani

swift mango
covert lintel
lone sequoia
#

rei is also a option for that team if your units are strong

gritty ridge
lone sequoia
#

in that case you just need to use cindy p4

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mihara p5

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if they don't use a nuke you can win with the normal speed you get from your units

shell hazel
#

my next matches

lone sequoia
#

ready for 20 belorta

lone sequoia
shell hazel
#

I think I lose 1 and 2.
may win 3 (I speed them up so should burst later)
should win 4 single buff scar with soda isn't usually fatal on stall comp
5 is ??? could win it depends if I can yeet jackal and bay

shell hazel
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2 is def a loss here just 2RL scar into 2RL noah lol

lone sequoia
#

i hate mihara p3 and rosanna p4, but looks like a ele dmg/cs check

shell hazel
#

why hate mihara p3?

lone sequoia
#

it work and it doesn't, imagine you burst with mihara

shell hazel
#

cindy is p1

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she'll b3

tropic summit
lone sequoia
#

right, my bad

covert lintel
#

Harran 20

shell hazel
swift mango
shell hazel
#

I'll still back myself don't need the trophy thing anymore

lone sequoia
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i play the fight in my mind and swap position as DEF, didnt noticed the cindy at first

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do you know if that rosanna can kill your vesti? p4 can lose her 2nd proc

shell hazel
#

ah probably, looks well built, at least decent cp and SR-15 etc

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I don't know if they have the best rolls but it doesn't seem weak or anything

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my vesti/lapt may take out 2-3 of them before they can burst though, and if viper dies they can't b2/b3 at least

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but auto attacking sg's can still be deadly and if ros sniped vesti and lapT then I have no attackers left standing

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should ros be p5 then? I wasn't aware of issues with ros p4

lone sequoia
#

target priority in DEF against teams with 1 attacker

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in atk is because against SG used to work 50/50 a early shot that take her S1 or SG target p4

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SU fixed that before CA season 1

lone sequoia
leaden canyon
shell hazel
#

it boils down to cindy brawl

lone sequoia
#

or if your mihara can ignore cindy decoy

shell hazel
#

and the one who bursts 2nd usually wins that

leaden canyon
#

I dont think there is a single defnese I can do at this point that will work

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Anybody got some whack defenses that are not normal to try

lone sequoia
leaden canyon
lone sequoia
#

unless you run some indom vesti or rosanna against people who don't know how to play

leaden canyon
#

The other person within cp range still beats it

umbral belfry
#

pray noise lives long enough to burst somehow

lone sequoia
#

i have been using the "same" teams for like 2 years

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if i show more teams they will learn and they already beat me with cp teams

umbral belfry
#

so t1 and t3 are must wins basically

leaden canyon
#

Trying this i guess

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idk where to throw helm though

lone sequoia
#

i see those fights as 3 50/50, 1 lose in round 2 if he doesn't have enough cs to skip noise burst and a interesting fight for round 3

lone sequoia
#

centi swap

swift mango
leaden canyon
#

Pretty sure scar unlinked then

lone sequoia
#

just get more atk on scarlet

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p1 mihara have the taunt and time problem

leaden canyon
#

that would be very expensive to try for my scar

lone sequoia
#

3marks can get taunted by charge units and you need at least 2RL to land all your marks

leaden canyon
#

I guess I can roll off all the ammo

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she has 2 black ammo lines though

lone sequoia
#

show your scarlet OL

leaden canyon
#

I could roll everything off for attack prio but that would be a big cp hit

north brook
#

Pve scar huh

lone sequoia
#

check the tier value of each piece, for ele dmg line you can add +2 for the total value

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hard to fix for pvp and i don't know what teams or stats you want

leaden canyon
#

I mean shes never used on pve nowadays

north brook
#

Ya but thats a pve build

leaden canyon
#

yeah

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I could roll it off

lone sequoia
#

common scarlet want 4atk+ammo and 1~2crit rate, some people prefer balanced pvx and other just full crit rate+ cdm

north brook
#

Not even like semi pve on pvp that full pve

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Yeah would need to probably try to rebuild her entirely

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Forget if 52% was a usable ammo for it

keen vapor
lone sequoia
#

he can keep the DEF/atk/ammo and reroll gloves or full reroll if you want crit rate

north brook
#

Ya ud keep that one and figure out rest

lone sequoia
#

but first write the teams you use or want for scarlet, go for atk/crit rate/dmg or a specific stat for other teams

leaden canyon
#

I mean shes always used in scarlet trina centi rosanna/hood jackal

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idk what else to throw her in

lone sequoia
#

like... if you don't have dmg you get less than 60% (?) ammo against siren or you go full crit rate/dmg and just kill enemy siren

leaden canyon
#

I guess I'll reroll the gloves

lone sequoia
#

at this point you can finish a pvx build

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keep ammo ele dmg and try to get more atk

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will be expensive but it should work

leaden canyon
#

I never use her in pve now though

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even in electric weak SR

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I dont have exia treasure so I cant run that team

lone sequoia
#

you can always wait

#

new pilgrims in 3 weeks

gritty ridge
#

Can I run 4 atk 4 crit rate 4 ammo scar and put her in p2Doro

lone sequoia
#

linked? yes

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just run b1 p1

gritty ridge
#

The humble jackal

lone sequoia
#

or your 2nd b3 (stun) p1

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but for DEF just b1 or get more dmg for scarlet

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and +25%cs, that always work

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i need 4 black lines on jackal to make some teams work

gritty ridge
#

So true

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Lemme just break out my 1.5 rl scar team

swift mango
hoary maple
#

Sorry, XP, it's just not your day

shell hazel
#

at least I should get within 3% on SR for the first time ever

#

dog bless Cindy prayge

junior crown
#

From my help request yesterday, how do these teams look?

leaden canyon
umbral belfry
junior crown
leaden canyon
junior crown
shell hazel
# umbral belfry lock in

nah think is prob over lol, oh well, if I die I die in top 8 at least, some tough competition here

#

if I won here then I'm facing tenshi or moran guy, both pretty strong also

#

we go again next CA Doro

shell hazel
#

this has actually been on of my best CA's in terms of wins to losses in matches

leaden canyon
shell hazel
#

30 matches and only 4 losses

leaden canyon
# shell hazel

do you set up the cindy team like mihara blanc rumani biscuit cindy?

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I have seen variations of it in CA for the positioning

shell hazel
#

I posted my version here, my opponent also on t3 has a diff version with mihara on the end

leaden canyon
#

Also you may want to have it like this noise noah centi cindy rumani, so cindy does not get splashed by emilia or vesti

gritty ridge
#

Hey who here is smart

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I need someone to explain how slow cindy works better than I can

leaden canyon
#

oh wait i cant record it because its been too long

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I wish they would let you see old battles

shell hazel
#

yeah old ones expire quick it's why I try and record all mine before they move on

leaden canyon
#

I'm on the left

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his biscuit got indom

shell hazel
#

damn that biscuit chonky sponge

#

there's a few versions of it

leaden canyon
#

so in a mirror I guess that positioning is just better

shell hazel
#

you'd have to re-run the same match a few times to confirm it at least

placid bloom
#

I don't like Biscuit p2, you can die to rocket splash

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before her 2nd invin triggers

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but I guess he don't care clueless

shell hazel
#

some can be rng

placid bloom
#

as long as he win

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I definitely don't like tank p1 p2 though

shell hazel
#

yeah I don't necessarily think that cindy p1 is the best version but actually it seems to have done better than my previous one

leaden canyon
#

Mihara blanc rumani biscuit cindy seems like a better version to me but I was trying something different

shell hazel
#

mihara p1 won't necessarily give her time to do her dots

leaden canyon
#

she just needs to die doesn't she?

placid bloom
#

well in the mirror the rocket splash damage is almost nonexistent so it really just comes down the split on invin pepehmmm

shell hazel
#

she needs time to apply initial dots

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you want her to die but not too soon

leaden canyon
#

ah I thought the dots happened because of death

placid bloom
#

if you're taking into account other matchups then you don't really want Mihara p1

shell hazel
#

you want her to apply dots to all then she dies they go to max stacks

placid bloom
#

because the mirror is not the only matchup you will face

leaden canyon
#

cinndy p1 looking better actually

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because I dont like having biscuit get splashed in p2

shell hazel
#

think pros and cons of all types

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some do better vs certain comps or mirror ones

placid bloom
#

yeah they all have different benefits, Mihara p2 is generally the best into the matchups because the splash from rockets will kill her

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but in the mirror the splash damage is so low that Mihara will burst instead of Cinderella

shell hazel
#

or more accurately may kill her

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I often find it didn't lol

vapid lake
#

So they go from taking 25% dmg per tick to 500%

junior crown
leaden canyon
#

cindy nuke is easy to deal with

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the nuke also has a delay on it and isn't like scar nuke

junior crown
leaden canyon
#

If you have enough cs on vesti then its a 2RL team

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and if noise or noah dies then rumani or centi still go off

junior crown
umbral belfry
swift mango
#

My SG finally got it's first win.

#

@tropic summit See, I need Noah/Noise to win against Cindy. pain

#

Couldn't he helped that he has linked I guess. BurninKek Soda RNG wasn't on my side.

swift mango
#

Doro just accidentally beat him 2 mins after he beat me. CrownHUH

#

No. Best is CP gap them 30%.

lone sequoia
#

35% to be sure

covert lintel
gritty ridge
umbral crown
slate falcon
#

Who’s better for this defense team Rumani or Noise?

zinc flicker
#

Helm with treasure feels like cheating

slate falcon
zinc flicker
slate falcon
#

I think im too addicted too PvP now🄲 there’s no going backšŸ™‚ā€ā†”ļø.

slate falcon
crystal flicker
#

Its staple PvP team

slate falcon
#

She’s on a different team thought

crystal flicker
#

You're wasting Jackal too

slate falcon
#

Explain

gritty ridge
#

Dont use jackal tho

noble hatch
noble hatch
slate falcon
gritty ridge
# slate falcon Explain why

Biscuit activates when a defender gets to 60% hp or lower, jackal shares hp. Biscuit is gonna waste her precious procs when nobody is even hitting jackal

noble hatch
gritty ridge
#

Also jackal would be better on another team

slate falcon
gritty ridge
#

Best gen in game

#

Its a slow team

crystal flicker
#

Jackal belong to Scarlet comp/other AoE Nuke
Cindy HelmT is fast comp, unless you have stall invested, I don't think you wan to use HelmT anywhere else

gritty ridge
#

<@&946725432554836008>

crystal flicker
#

Can't mods just ban the jpg file name

gritty ridge
#

Mods don't like pvp chat

#

They hate us pvpers

crystal flicker
#

Is this true @ Amon

slate falcon
#

@crystal flicker @gritty ridge How do look now?

gritty ridge
slate falcon
#

where should I put her?

crystal flicker
placid bloom
#

Vesti Blanc RH Centi Jackal

crystal flicker
#

Then she's viable for 3rd team

slate falcon
#

Rumani isn’t built as yet she will done in 2 more days

crystal flicker
#

Then you have better CP pad pepehmmm

#

Anis SR also useful

slate falcon
#

And I don’t plan to

#

I have her summer skin though

crystal flicker
#

You're gonna need her if you ever made it to CA

slate falcon
#

I just wanna get to top 3

crystal flicker
#

Need more PvP invest then

#

Nero Moran also a choice, though a bit expensive

slate falcon
#

I have Moran though not built

gritty ridge
crystal flicker
slate falcon
#

Oh lol

crystal flicker
wise horizon
#

Need advice here @tropic summit

keen vapor
slate falcon
keen vapor
gritty ridge
crystal flicker
#

I mean for SP

noble hatch
#

Is Ada or Jill any good in the PvP?
I see Prydwen saying Ada is SS in PvP but I dont see anyone using her.

keen vapor
#

Emi won ofc hmmz

noble hatch
stuck pike
noble hatch
stuck pike
#

ada works as a buffer, but might work as a b3 burster, but it's very situational

noble hatch
noble hatch
stuck pike
#

if she is used with blanc to kill the enemy team, she will get stopped by blanc and sometimes biscuit.

#

this is bcuz she only hits 2 people at p1.

keen vapor
keen vapor
stuck pike
#

otherwise raid only nikke

keen vapor
#

Ah, Jill was also 70 for me

slate falcon
keen vapor
#

Good PepperDed

noble hatch
lethal rock
#

can i get a good defense deck

noble hatch
slate falcon
covert lintel
stuck pike
umbral crown
stuck pike
#

If ur missing some electric DPS, she can be useable, but realistically unless the boss has a def mechanic, it is difficult to put her in somewhere in most full rosters.

keen vapor
#

Round 3 wasn't winning