#pvp-arena
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You can cleanse siren with sora or ade too
nah indom doesnt need to be p1
as long as ur target dps has lower hp than ur linked units she will get indom
good for u since jackal is defender so she naturally has high hp and attacker naturally have low hp
Sr5 and base ol typically makes jackal tanky enough to work
Also just realized, even if indom doesn't burst she still acts as a meat shield
Does a indom jackal link kill everyone else if hit? I assume so
Lost
also would depend if u can indom before the nuke hits
Getting Indom in jackal is too hard
if u indom before b3 jackal and other linked unit will die but indom target lives
they just happened to win every other time with luck
expect for the time it decided the match
what did u hit with and which team
thats literally the easiest way to ensure indom to someone: using jackal dmg share
much easier than blanc biscuit
and those are the only ways to have at least some idea of where/whom indom will go to
like in his case, centi jackal are defender so they should never get indom at all
Indom isn't needed, I learned, they did almost no damage and had so many MGs feeding jackal that Ein instantly killed them
that only leaves ein and helm as indom targets
I thought the defict would crush me
This but on that attempt Siren didn't strun
so u DO have scarlet
Yeah, I threw her in there as CP padding
so the defict would be less harsh
Scarlet isn't very useful without Trina
Yeah she didn't and I lost
but she did tho
she did last attempt but not this one
I was just showing the team I threw, that was last match
this is so confusing lmao
so that fight is RNG
Well they won last time
im surprised u didnt die before then
Their team 1 is super weak
I wasn't expecting to crush them that easily
Jackal and enemy MGs go hard
yea tghats how jackal works
Didn't want to use jackal on them I was scared of their big combat power number before
I assumed they would kill all 3 nikkes in 3 seconds
u can always check deficit on some nikke deficit caluclator
15-20% is usually doable with proper teams
but it is hard
even more so if ur in deficit AND the guy ur hitting has actual pvp teams and not just some auto click team
I guess that explains why they died so easily
the gap seemed way bigger
14% isnt in deficit
Yeah it isn't, I just thought the gap was larger then it was
just barely over it
Guess it was wise to add scarlet cp pad
tho tbh if u see cp stack team and ur deficit isnt that high it should be free win
lots of teams out there that can fight even in deficit vs campaign/cp padding teams
It is a really effective defense
A lot of time the lower syncs can't over power it
scar 2RL double buff can win easily up to 21% from my experience
moran nero stall team can also win vs deficit
any vesti team can and WILL kill everyone and anyone even in deficit
tho i personally dont know what her ceiling is
knowledge > money afterall
unless its an insane amount of money spent for core dust
It's funny that my tetra nikke bracket never fully recovered, I wishlisted a bunch of tetra nikkes in order to get over the wall when I was 160.
so that stopped a lot of new tetra nikkes during those early days
will try it later

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Ada buff b1 rapi?š«
apparently
So if we put RH and Ada in same Arena team, RH normal attack would be buffed? 
Gotta test it later. 
not rh it seems, not sure why
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I'm just going by what people have said here
I guess RH isn't listed as a B3 unit but B4 unit instead.
yes she is not a b3 according to her burst type
and I think rapi counts because she is a b3 who is just doing b1
I guess we know what's next in anniversary. A B3 dps that's also B2.š«
Crown finally powercrept.
long time before crown is properly powercrept even if we get someone objectively better
she'll be 2nd best b2 in raids then instead of 1st
Who care about raid? It's all about the best in Campaign. 
Ein Ada is lowest MC clear atm with rapipi b1 
Oh youāve seen that crazy video from that korean too?
because skill description says so: rapi is still b3 even if her skill changes her to b1. omni burst like RH is not considered as b3
yeah it was impressive, building ada or ein to 101010 with 90+ ele is not what I want to do though 
Nah thats fair, though its not for waste. True damage is utterly bonkers in all of campaign deficit
I don't have Ein built, does Ada alone help?
don't think so, ein profits so much from ada S1
Like, Besti is unironically one of the best campaign deficit pushers because her AoE+TD decimates top priority peons, allowing you to focus on the elites
Its crazy
pvp unit being used in campaign 
None of my unit has 90+ Ele and I still have to clear shit just fine. 
U kinda pve bricked 
but you are not doing it sub 1m cp vs MC though without that invest
that ada was 0 dupes as well
My campaign is still as good as anyone who started similar time with me.
Sheās crazy. Like, unbelievably crazy. Crown/Siren/Besti/RRH/RH allows me to push at even greater deficits than my usual Crown/Siren/RRH/RH/MMast team
If Ada is invested too then I could push at even crazier deficits
Hmmm, more incentive to throw more rocks to my besti
you can push up to 49% deficit with Vesti Ada
https://www.youtube.com/@klostrakis/videos
There are 2 ways to have a strong Campaign unit. Roll for Ele and roll for CP. You could do both. But if you could only do one thing, then either is as good as each other. 
Unironically, yes. She will carry you in fire weak campaign stages especially
Whatās ur Bestiās stats
true dmg really effective vs high deficit
Lowest clear but 20 level above the 2nd guy is the real bricked. 
Base defence mobs a quite clustered hmm, maybe iāll try once theres new stages
10/10/10 SR15. Her OLs are pretty shit but 10% CS. Literally 0% ele
Im thinking on whether I should sink more rocks into Alice 
Third ways: wipe out 4times everyday
So sheās effective for PvP too
if your deficit isn't high enough for vesti to be worth it you can just go alice vs fire weak
We have plenty fire PvE tho
It's the unit, not the account level.
I'm doing that instead, alice rapipi for fire weak is enough at 40-42% deficit
The units will be strong anyway without proper roll stat
Tbf, I probably could have cleared it at a lower sync with her around. Plus that guy must have some crazy OLs to be able to pull off that sort of sync
The gusy who properly roll stat could also gem claim or whale. So it's not really mutually exclusive. Because using different resources.
445 
Im just thinking what will be the best campaign team going forward 
he also got to ch 32 sub 421 which is VERY unusual
All this sweaty pushing
I'm still stuck at CC 31 with 500 bars left at 418 
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The hardestcore pushers like Klo are using Crown/RRH/Ada/FLEX (Ein or Besti)/MMast, though that may change depending on the new pilgrim
49% deficit just for the sake of it isn't even fun to me anymore
I can smell true damage on the new pilgrim
they have to make her good besides just true dmg though otherwise she'll end up mid in other pve content 
Yeah, a lot of campaign stages are downright unfair, especially since you have to focus on like 8 priority targets and kill them all in like 2 secondsā¦
40-44% sure, that's fine but stuff higher than that tends to become a slog
Rip forgot this was maincord
But yeah, thats why units like Ein, Ada, and Besti are so good. Theyāre basically AoE focused units that are really good at killing peons
- true dmg for malders
Not Ein. She is only for MC. 
my goat klo mentioned
š¹
really impressed by that malding
For example, Adaās S2 can lob grenades at the enemies once in a while. These grenades are not only TD, but also AoE, making her incredibly effective. In addition, she could buff TD like thereās no tmr
I won't brick my progress to achieve that lvl of malding though
hes just cracked
Ikrr. I could only dream of that kind of malding
probably the only mechanically insane nikke player ive seen do manual play
hes just consistent with his clicks man damn
And Iām already malding 40%+ on campaign
Ada for eletric weak content?
I highly assume it's with some gaming chair
Man, im abit out of touch of recent units 
iirc he mentioned he even got banned by the game for being too good 
I only scum pause tech if needed but after long malding sessions my RH/alice sniping gets worse if I don't take breaks
like a LOT worse
From what Iāve seen, Ada is more versatile because of the TD and her ability to spam RL shots for burst gen
Besti has that auto rocket thing and Ein is Ein
Ada works for any content, you can see klo using her and vesti vs fire weak
sure vesti and rapipi b1 get ele advantage but ada is just there to buff
but to clarify: if your alice/vesti/rapi are built enough you don't really need ada for those stages sub 45% deficit
So long as you clear campaign you are good. 
And for RL spam as well. If there was no Ada, then you wouldnāt really have a good burst genner
iām done with hard mode 
just like you can go RH rapipi vs iron weak and not really require ada/vesti at 40-45% because both are that good in campaign
Thats why I use RH in my deficit clears with Besti, even though MMast is better

i'm not clearing CC 31 until 421 sync, thought you were past it warudo?
I canāt blame you man
I'm at 500 bars left 418 sync, I could mald it tomorrow with resil 13
As in, ive actually cleared all the hm stages 
421 cc will just die without really trying
ah not worth crating to 421 for it?
extra cd/hour for all other crates on the new chapters then, or think you probably get it before anni anyway
according to sheet I'll hit 421 straight with anni patch
Oh nvm. But yeah, campaign HM is a load of shit
I can hit 461 if I open boxes once anni patch roughly ends
if new unit is great for MC as well I'll give it a shot 
@tropic summit put it best: it challenges skill but in the worst way possible through stat inflation
I keep track of mine, 421 jump is still a bit away but on schedule to get it by the anni roughly
I heard even klo is getting tired of HM pushing lol
I'm lazy and just use the commcord sheet 
well if he wants to suffer with 49.x% deficit he's free to do so 
I just plug in some stats and it works out how many hours I have/need etc
Just wipe his card for synch like other whales then. They clear everything asap. 
Whaling for rock is much more expensive. 
Possible if u saved for long time. I had like 38 levels saved most revently
Rolling Mihara for Indivilia is tempting me to get that 40 rock pack the next time it appears š
if I use all my crates at that date I reach 461
I low key regret not buying 
should be a bit earlier considering I hit higher outpost lvl with anni patch and more boxes ofc
Get them all, anything with rock and you would have enough. 
Getting atk on Mihara is so annoying for indiv 
are you also only with indi left for 5/5 AI kills? 
Y E S
Iāve been lazy on AI clears 
And its on mobile too, so I gotta suffer with the 10% MG debuff
ironically building UR units lmao
AI ultra was the most malding but fun so far. indi is even worse malding but just no fun at all
kraken and harvester are free kills, MC is just cindy check
Sometimes I wish my union was a bit more competitive. But I love them so much I wonāt move out even when I could probably qualify for more competitive ones
Gotta specialise in an element eventially 
I lost my sanity on Ultra. It took me a while for me to figure out how to break that second core on time
And spending a month rerolling RHās double locked helmet for a line 1 ele
I had to juggle RH b1 timing a bit
Looks like Miharaās going for that route tooā¦
my RH was lucky with 92 ele 29 atk in less than 50 rolls
E x p l o d e
My RH is still 83% lol. I never wanna roll her again. I never felt angrier than rerolling every day on her
I'll have my sweet revenge vs ultra without mald once I have SW built
that big laser must be so satisfying
I'm a brick and all I could do for OL in pvp or PvE was minimal. Kinda envy peeps with urber luck. 
this luck was reversed don't worry 
I never had it to be reversed. 
my siren still has only 2 ele after more than 100 rocks
1 rock roll or lock?
mix of both, if I have atk line on 3
Happens 
Yeahā¦
My worse is still rosanna to get 4x atk, is 50+ rocks 
you win some you lose some 
I was with 1 AtK line scarlet at 200 rocks in. 
maximum gacha mindset, only gamba 
damn, too drunk to get that atk
That was when Ammo was a good line so I locked it. 
Oh right, I forgot to take the screenshot. Yeah he canāt really be compared to anyone else
such a fun stat check boss 
My condolences. Thats absurdly grim.
I have 2 line 3 atk and only got her in previous month 
But it took me forever to get her
Rng will rng
I don't have Rapu. 
On top of doro and Modernia but I don't care about them.

Why not try to get champ? š«
I suck 
just believe in yourself 
Yo wsp 
Lel, yesterday I was looking at my account on phone, then phone fell on face when I was looking at my coredust and my face used my crates for meā¦.. 2000hours of coredust that could been 102 got used as 92
Fenrir, just in case you lurk here, just DM me so we can coordinate our attacks

Guys this team that I got recommended who to prioritize after sbs scarlet and rh?
Gonna camp until like 541 something at whatever black snake thing
pirority campaign team
Unironically correct
But I want that champion frame 
Champ frame gets old
those teams suck so u wont get champ frame with them anyway
unless u aim for those bronze color frames
Sorry for the hitting back, didn't saw your profile message. Already hit before seeing it 
Im not even 2 months in game tho still not possible? If i start early?
Idk maybe ur bracket is super copium
hmmm it is actually possible if u focus on 1 campaign team + pvp only
like give up on raid and tower
But if u get grouped with people +2 month above u u still have no chance
the CA bracket is grouped with new players too so whoever put more effort and money can win
just get lucky
the first step is, make sure u can get top in SpA
you gonna fall behind story progress if you gonna spend too much on niche pvp units, and if you fall behind in campaign people will just outlevel you later, focus on meta and pushing campaign to be above others
U only invest ca if ur like top of ur spa bracket
Cuz u know u can pulverize everything so u have no pressure to pull ahead in other areas
Will prioritizing solo raid be better?
U get gem
no, even worse idea
for skill level, get them to 7/7/7
for gear, invest in rh and sbs first, then scarlet. and remember that u should also save for coming meta units
tbh if im a new player, i would focus on campaign and pvp. solo raid is over. u cannot compete against veteran
One day ur account just clicks and u start getting 3% in solo raid and ur pertty much golden from there
but a lot ppl dont care about pvp
I get like 2k gems per special arena reset so 4k gems per month am I good?

Good is your own perspective
if u cannot get top 4, there is no champion arena for u
2k gems is a reasonable stop point for casual players
i meant, solo raid vs spa obv, spa focus wins imo, solo raid is impossible for 2 month account, i feel like even for half a year account it would be a mess, it's all about having the right units and even invest in them, and if you are not a whale that has lots of units you not gonna climb there much, especially when elements of bosses rotate and you need new units for each one
Top 4 have like 550k cp while I have only 330k cp
Spa is more gem per time unit
Solo raid ur not touching that 3% as of now
And ur def not touching top 100 unless current reigning top players decide to collectively quit
it means u are cooked in both mode: pvp and solo raid
just do whatever u have fun with tbh
it is not worth investing in either
like people spend 10k gems to get +300 gems back for solo raid lol
but they have fun.. ig
Hmm ic so just campaign team it is then
Do that
u always invest more that what you get in return
for example, currently u earn 2k gems from spa without much care
to get top 10 for 2200 gems, u will spend thousands gems for units and such
Ur cooked but u can start new account and pull out wallet, but u might have to change name because u donāt be single pull redhood no more
I was 130 pulls sanis before 
And 250 pulls no ssr 

250 no SSR? is that even possible?
You ain't winning anything with that two team. Unless you are in 200 synch bracket fighting bots. Even then it could still be a challenge. 
@fathom rock
I remember there was also another guy with "500 pulls no SSR" tag but not sure who, so I @ you.
500 pulls - no rate up should be possible, 500 pulls - no ssr of any kind i think isn't
I saw 2 guys with that tag before that confirmed they did. 
if it was 2% banner maybe 
if you get unlucky enough it's definitely possible
there was someone on twitter who did 700 pulls on siren banner, only got 1 siren 
that's more believable because we talking about single specific character, not just hitting 4%
just checked, I saved a few 2 years ago, but I think only these 2 hitting 300 no ssr
#gacha-rolls message
#questions message

At that point Iād just make a new account
280 pull no ssr 
That's equal to 350 pulls in 2% banner
So that was a lie
What was 
Nah no time for that, best I could do is quit game. 
500 pulls no ssr
I never said that, it was always 280 
Ryo had 500+ no banner ssr tho
I see, so the nikke algorithm is set whenever player hoarding, luck -1%
wait Im hoarding

It was on your name for half a month
It's the other way around for me
Lie lie pant on fire 
be careful
You hoarder
I won on Ada banner surely I win on anni 
I think the guy who used to be with 500 pulls no SSR tag was typing something and stopped. 
@crystal flicker that was you?
Wdym 
500 pulls no ssr?
I remember some one here had that episode and quitted game for some months

I don't remember the number, but I'm not quitting for that reason, maybe another guy 
Saw a guy spent 480 pulls for queency
Another got 5 Ada within a multi
just 5-0. brutal
@noble hatch turns out more than just the cindy match went in my favour lmao
20% voted for me on this one, stealing credit crates off everyone
you win Hime?
I was fully expecting to lose at least 2 of these so will have to watch the rematches later
sad noises
i did indeed
you're still elkingjae to me
not sure to still go with soda scarlet next time or have jackal scarlet. if so then my vesti wont have jackal

top 8? lock in
I have some tough competition here for sure, tenshi is here and moran guy
bumping this?
#pvp-arena message
these are the generic comps
what does 3RL mean
time it takes for rocket launcher to launch 3 shots, it will enter burst in 3 shots
oh ok
I rather get you to use Anis than univested Vesti
Best third team for now will be auto team unless you tell me you have Summer Anis at 10/10/9 skills
If his anis is uninvested too?
Better univested battery than univested DPS is my point
She will burst gen regardless
@umbral belfry I KNEW BELIEVING IN PIES WOULD WORK

And guess who got a group that also has the same name as you...? Or wait, is that you?! 
(thank you for the help, by the way!! So...now what..?)
So...who are we voting for in the top 4?
Me
did you get my cheer
that's me
I'm hime
I should win as well
I'm Hime 


im him


I DID 

CONGRATS ON TOP 8 
as God planned it š„§

i tried looking at the teams and you know what, screw it š¤
gonna just believe in you
I also don't know what I am looking at 

so how do you think your match will go? 
unbiased of course, but honestly, bias is fine too 
I only ask because you got like...so many RL's in your teams 
I win t1 - 3, likely lose t4 and t5 but possible to win
the only way I see myself losing t1 (and the match) is if my scar fails to wipe max cores
as noise and noah will be stunned (won't matter bc they're 3rl)
we just need 3/5 š¤
I BELIEVE 

no matter what, the pies are in each quarter, holy 
glad i got away from Radeki
@swift mango i hope your soda stuns blanc (just like i always do
) and get the win 
U beatin brxshan or nah 
@kind palm
LMAO
gatekept me from champion so many times 
I heard
game bullying you
I don't really know 
you predict for me
I instalocked brxshan 
We love that confidence here
Yeeeeee gg. My hole might be gaping now, Iāll make dessert out of you one day š“
pie giving you constipation 
you got what you wanted 
Its to be expected. My units are still infants. When indivilia is dead, then thatās when Iāll be a real threat
can i win? any suggestion?
Thatās low-key a fire team by the enemy
It all comes down to gear investment
if you want you can bring a buffer 
how
just need 5 cs on Vesti
you won't die pre-burst while linked
unless your RH has less HP and mess up your indom 
How did you get this?
but you can maybe solve with vigor cube
Ada works too but Ada probably less invested than Vesti 
so high chance to mess indom
unless your Ada has beefy HP
@glad glade if there's any solace, you beat me in pve

I fear I will be stuck at MC until the end of time
Oh no hard feelings. You deserve it more than me in pvp

just blue CP
For non bossing stages, I highly recommend you use Besti. Sheās so good in campaign, its utterly ridiculous
Iām not doing it yet. I could smell true damage on the new pilgrim
True. And sheās really good at gathering burst gen, so you could use MMast
When I used besti the first time, I had to go with RH instead of MMast because of the burst gen issue
Speaking of which, have you seen that crazy MC clear with Ada+Ein?
https://arca.live/b/nikketgv/149826804
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oh I do trust
besti hard carrying non bosses
Ikrr

Turns 8 priority targets into 1
I mean it's not a horrible investment assuming I ever use her in pvp
All hail God emperor Besti
I am already using her as buffer for PvP 
I got nothing to lose 
but I think she is better as dps than buffer
Investing with anni so soon 
well it's just initial OL
real
and 10/4/4
If anything I'm waiting after anni
I'm patient with hard malding. ada can wait
Anni winter NY
I still have books to max 1 unit at minimum before resets
if I need to max 2 I will just reset someone useless 
You have useless units to reset gold books? 

idek who I'm resetting this time
Your HoF ultra clear?
I gotta look
Eve never saw a gold book in her life 
Mine doesnāt even have gear
no point worrying about museum at my sync

I can't get 10 points even if I kept her built
I will worry about it at like sync 450 
450 soon 
My iron units outside of rapi and RH are garbage, so I donāt think I could make it. If i had proper investment, then I probably could mald Ultra at 427 sync
you're beefy enough to tank the slam?
Not at this current moment 
feel like under 450 you just die 
Ikr
maybe we will get more shield units 
Iām in no rush though. My ark shard ranking rivals are filthy casuals who donāt even have SR3 frames. Iām gonna be fine
Have to eat a slam and heal up so you can cover poison for some teams without shielders/liter
Though this one guy is really annoying in elysion growth ranking. Somehow he has so much elysion dupes
Noah might actually be interesting
Thereās enough time between the ground slams to time her invincibility, so you could actually save cover without risking death
Nero Moran team 

Cheer successfully failed again
Iām closing in on the silver frame!
Got the Keripo matchup this time!
3 cheers left including this one, if Iām lucky itāll be Keripo all 3 times
Not bad. 
Next one I got cheers less than opponent. But whatever is fine. 
So strong 
blood fighting a super bot 
Yeah vote for Collab. 
I should have vote for Dragon ball too just to see how Bulma and Android 18 looks like in Nikke art style.
I guess No.18 has enough power to destroy all rapture and bring peace to Earth in a single day. 
Heaven's Lost Property 
damn 0 rock kraken two days in a row, thanks daddy shiftup :0
I got betrayed 


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No way 
let's get Fern, Rikka and Takina in Nikke 
this game needs more interesting legs 
Fern has them covered
~~it depends what you're looking at
~~
Not Takarada!
Takanashi!
Hey I have this one in Azur Lane. She is very good unit too. 


Echo is cheating his Kisama with every girls now. 
when your opponent puts their only b2 at p1
we always knew he wasn't the loyal lad
his faith is weak
who broke discord images? š®
Chime is not gl, she's the best character
I can see it normally
Yo no lo entiendos
all my images are sat loading :9
UK is finally censoring discord too? 
Close and open again
I have seen these guy won against scarlet and the like. Just need Rossanna to snip. 
probably :9
your sacrifice won't be forgotten
at least the world already knows how sh*tty it can get before we also step in it 
that sg team is up against my noise team, hopefully she lives long enough at p1 š
p1 is kinda ded
you need split tank to survive it
or research advantage like blood's opponents
he can't even kill p5 unprotected rumani against some
I knew it was risky with noise as only b1 going in anyway
you probably were like "pff what are the odds i get SG team, on defense side"
and RNG marked that down for reference 
haha, always possible
you are cooked
my vesti may be lethal to their p1/p2 anyway
ultra rare
unless the SGs are baby
nah don't look baby
Is it 17% charge speed to get the RL speed boost?
delta kit?


how do I beat this in SP arena, rosanna doesn't work on it and I'm using biscuit and noah on another team
18% is true recommendation
15% already has some effect
cs is to get more speed on cs, "17% is to reach SG hit mark"
Rossana p5 with SG and lapT.
nuke their link with helmT
You can double check on https://nikke.work/
although with hippo we also took the long way with rumani biscuit locked p1
Cause my rapunzel with the adjutant cube has 16.88% cs increase
if you know how many hours left for SU to post delta kit
no clue 
14%?
16.88-2.12
for pvp RLs you want more cs in most of them, rapu cp depends in the ammo you have and you will probably want 4cs+4def+2ammo
so... 3~4 cs is good in most of the teams if you have the 2ammo lines
Didn't work because the nuke went into noise
oh they B1 in time 
can you do this and record for science?
Noise taunt is on the basic attack
is noise linked?
wait noise taunts p1 and p2 though
Check pins, .XX CS is non-existent 
you ran helmT in those positions?
yeah jackal helm emilia blanc laplace
can we change those teams?
it cant be removed
else you gonna need to show your box becase we don't know your units available and not used elsewhere
event still 7+ days left bro
maintenance next reset (?
No matter what I put into that noise team it doesn't work
is noise linked?
no
she has got indom before but its when I run a lot of hard hitting stuff that hits p1
and i was running rosanna
the CP keeps getting worse everytime 
I cant fix it with my luck on lines
@hoary maple I suggest you to wait till hero attacks then get to C3 
I have free slots on my friend list btw
1.838kk for T1
1.897kk for T2
nah you are easier target anyway.
same bracket?
Not even rosanna?
cp issue then
team 1 could go with Moran p1 , Cindy p5 filling the middle with cp pad.
can't use rosanna in the cp team?
no it doesn't kill vesti
i mean in the scarlet cp team
I would die because cp issue
do you have nero or makima?
I have tried nero moran helm rapunzel lap before and it didn't work
I'm at cp deficit
also no makima
you can just sac scarlet in p5 and add trina/rosanna for burst gen+a nuke
or low dmg
Dont you love sg team vs no attackers
Liter,(flex support b1),trina,jackal scar
1rl
need more ele dmg on bsoda, but the problem was siren, you can add sugar next time if you think you will face scarlet or noise
Sugar?
yep, sugar
Just don't be afraid to fail
I fought a higher cp issue than you
Next CA ill have t.poli as my b2 actually
My scar team was like this in the past and still won
Slow Cindy can work with crown I believe 
scarlet/trina/rh? that team work in 20~30% deficit depending on enemy units elements
My slow cindy beat double buff scar
Crown is slow
work if your units survive enemy nuke
Nice t1 win
I cant believe that worked at deficit lol
Really?
you never tried scarlet/trina?
I have
but its usually scarlet trina centi rosanna jackal
or hood instead of rosanna
cindy team should be the counter for scarlet, but in this case is mihara who kills with the time you get from biscuit s2+blanc, so the safe worked
Is there no way to view battles of when people attack you in SP or rookie arena? All i can see is if i win or lose not really helpful
no
but you can stalk people to know what they use if you don't know how to counter your own teams
Double buff scar is typically a counter to slow cindy
Its one of the few teams it loses to
where? if you get the time with mihara DoT, slow cindy should win
that is the reason you use mihara
Double buff scar will almost always kill everyone but p1, its usually blanc p1 rumani p3
rumani p1 is weaker against siren teams but work better against scarlet because blanc can just proc with scarlet S2
Yeah, I use the version cuz i dont have invested rumani
just need another unit getting biscuits not that hard especially putting them p2
If you have blanc invested, you can win 3 that actually 
rei is also a option for that team if your units are strong
If mihara isnt p2 the team is much worse against non scar teams
in that case you just need to use cindy p4
mihara p5
if they don't use a nuke you can win with the normal speed you get from your units
my next matches
ready for 20 belorta
atk top or bottom?
I think I lose 1 and 2.
may win 3 (I speed them up so should burst later)
should win 4 single buff scar with soda isn't usually fatal on stall comp
5 is ??? could win it depends if I can yeet jackal and bay
attack is always bottom here, I'm def/top
2 is def a loss here just 2RL scar into 2RL noah lol
i hate mihara p3 and rosanna p4, but looks like a ele dmg/cs check
why hate mihara p3?
it work and it doesn't, imagine you burst with mihara
B
B
they burst faster than you, probably top if indom kicks in
RNG but probably top
B
right, my bad
Harran 20
yeah think it's 3-2 or 4-1 against me here unless rng works in my favour somewhere :p
Hippo might win the cindy match up just because his cindy p1 make the other team burst first. 
But Blanc on their Rumani would stall him longer. 
I'll still back myself don't need the trophy thing anymore
seems reasonable guess
i play the fight in my mind and swap position as DEF, didnt noticed the cindy at first
do you know if that rosanna can kill your vesti? p4 can lose her 2nd proc
ah probably, looks well built, at least decent cp and SR-15 etc
I don't know if they have the best rolls but it doesn't seem weak or anything
my vesti/lapt may take out 2-3 of them before they can burst though, and if viper dies they can't b2/b3 at least
but auto attacking sg's can still be deadly and if ros sniped vesti and lapT then I have no attackers left standing
should ros be p5 then? I wasn't aware of issues with ros p4
target priority in DEF against teams with 1 attacker
in atk is because against SG used to work 50/50 a early shot that take her S1 or SG target p4
SU fixed that before CA season 1
now because you can lose fast your p1 or p2 and if rosanna take dmg you lose her 2nd burst proc
what by replacing centi with blanc?
how to kill cindy p4?
it boils down to cindy brawl
or if your mihara can ignore cindy decoy
and the one who bursts 2nd usually wins that
I dont think there is a single defnese I can do at this point that will work
Anybody got some whack defenses that are not normal to try

nothing work against cp meta
nah its for another person in the bracket
unless you run some indom vesti or rosanna against people who don't know how to play
doesn't work in my bracket
The other person within cp range still beats it
they know
i have been using the "same" teams for like 2 years
if i show more teams they will learn and they already beat me with cp teams
L
L
?
rng / L if helm gets stunned
L
is how i see it
so t1 and t3 are must wins basically
i see those fights as 3 50/50, 1 lose in round 2 if he doesn't have enough cs to skip noise burst and a interesting fight for round 3
Slower Cindy has her decoy intact after 2 units burst. But hippo could be tanked by blanc anyway.
Pretty sure scar unlinked then
that would be very expensive to try for my scar
3marks can get taunted by charge units and you need at least 2RL to land all your marks
show your scarlet OL
Shes kinda cursed
I could roll everything off for attack prio but that would be a big cp hit
Pve scar huh
check the tier value of each piece, for ele dmg line you can add +2 for the total value
hard to fix for pvp and i don't know what teams or stats you want
I mean shes never used on pve nowadays
Ya but thats a pve build
common scarlet want 4atk+ammo and 1~2crit rate, some people prefer balanced pvx and other just full crit rate+ cdm
Not even like semi pve on pvp that full pve
Yeah would need to probably try to rebuild her entirely
Forget if 52% was a usable ammo for it
Yes
he can keep the DEF/atk/ammo and reroll gloves or full reroll if you want crit rate
Ya ud keep that one and figure out rest
but first write the teams you use or want for scarlet, go for atk/crit rate/dmg or a specific stat for other teams
I mean shes always used in scarlet trina centi rosanna/hood jackal
idk what else to throw her in
like... if you don't have dmg you get less than 60% (?) ammo against siren or you go full crit rate/dmg and just kill enemy siren
I guess I'll reroll the gloves
at this point you can finish a pvx build
keep ammo ele dmg and try to get more atk
will be expensive but it should work
I never use her in pve now though
even in electric weak SR
I dont have exia treasure so I cant run that team
Can I run 4 atk 4 crit rate 4 ammo scar and put her in p2
The humble jackal
or your 2nd b3 (stun) p1
but for DEF just b1 or get more dmg for scarlet
and +25%cs, that always work
i need 4 black lines on jackal to make some teams work
It's a new story begin. 
Sorry, XP, it's just not your day
what happens to lock in Hime? š
at least I should get within 3% on SR for the first time ever
dog bless Cindy 
From my help request yesterday, how do these teams look?
noah gets siren stunned
lock in
They are not on the same team tho
an enemy siren can stun your noah
That was one of the lineups listed in the pins, should I not use Noah? Is there better lineups than the pins?
nah think is prob over lol, oh well, if I die I die in top 8 at least, some tough competition here
if I won here then I'm facing tenshi or moran guy, both pretty strong also
we go again next CA 
Well there are ways to fix it, you can do noise noah cindy centi rumani and you want noah to have more cs that noise so noise takes the siren stun. Also you want enough charge speed on either rumani or centi to make the team 2.5RL which will let noah black a nuke.
30 matches and only 4 losses
do you set up the cindy team like mihara blanc rumani biscuit cindy?
I have seen variations of it in CA for the positioning
I posted my version here, my opponent also on t3 has a diff version with mihara on the end
CS = Charge Speed?
yes
Also you may want to have it like this noise noah centi cindy rumani, so cindy does not get splashed by emilia or vesti
Hey who here is smart
I need someone to explain how slow cindy works better than I can
I got beat by a mirror that had different positioning, let me record and show you lol
oh wait i cant record it because its been too long
I wish they would let you see old battles
yeah old ones expire quick it's why I try and record all mine before they move on
so in a mirror I guess that positioning is just better
you'd have to re-run the same match a few times to confirm it at least
I don't like Biscuit p2, you can die to rocket splash
before her 2nd invin triggers
but I guess he don't care 
some can be rng
yeah I don't necessarily think that cindy p1 is the best version but actually it seems to have done better than my previous one
Mihara blanc rumani biscuit cindy seems like a better version to me but I was trying something different
mihara p1 won't necessarily give her time to do her dots
she just needs to die doesn't she?
well in the mirror the rocket splash damage is almost nonexistent so it really just comes down the split on invin 
ah I thought the dots happened because of death
if you're taking into account other matchups then you don't really want Mihara p1
you want her to apply dots to all then she dies they go to max stacks
because the mirror is not the only matchup you will face
cinndy p1 looking better actually
because I dont like having biscuit get splashed in p2
yeah they all have different benefits, Mihara p2 is generally the best into the matchups because the splash from rockets will kill her
but in the mirror the splash damage is so low that Mihara will burst instead of Cinderella
Start of fight -> she gets 10 stacks to split amongst enemies, the stacks take time to be given out
As long as each enemy has 1 stack it's good enough, her death trigger is making every enemy that has 1 stack instantly become 20 stacks
So they go from taking 25% dmg per tick to 500%
Would a Vesti team be better than a Cindy?
yeah vesti would be better than cindy
cindy nuke is easy to deal with
the nuke also has a delay on it and isn't like scar nuke
Alrighty, is there a good team that doesn't use the characters from my other two? I have pretty much everyone
If you have enough cs on vesti then its a 2RL team
and if noise or noah dies then rumani or centi still go off
Alrighty, thank you for your help

My SG finally got it's first win.
ReiT and Vesti still undefeated. Vesti is 14/14 now counting last season. 
@tropic summit See, I need Noah/Noise to win against Cindy. 
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Couldn't he helped that he has linked I guess.
Soda RNG wasn't on my side.
35% to be sure
Yeah
And a more squishy sac p1 p2
Add 110 levels also
Waos
Whoās better for this defense team Rumani or Noise?
Helm with treasure feels like cheating
Sheās Sss for PvP or in general
I thought she was mediocre when I first got her when dolls were even a thing. Now sheās fcking amazing
I think im too addicted too PvP nowš„² thereās no going backšāāļø.
HelmT
Why her?
Its staple PvP team
Sheās on a different team thought
You're wasting Jackal too
Explain
Noise
Dont use jackal tho
Nikke Champion Arena Season 14 - 14 October 2025
So close, yet so far T_T
Explain why
Biscuit activates when a defender gets to 60% hp or lower, jackal shares hp. Biscuit is gonna waste her precious procs when nobody is even hitting jackal
W sexy excel sheet ā¤ļø
Also jackal would be better on another team
I see, so just replace jackal why HelmT then?
Jackal belong to Scarlet comp/other AoE Nuke
Cindy HelmT is fast comp, unless you have stall invested, I don't think you wan to use HelmT anywhere else
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Can't mods just ban the jpg file name
Is this true @ Amon
@crystal flicker @gritty ridge How do look now?
Blanc p1 is a nono
where should I put her?
Replace Biscuit with Rumani
Vesti Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Then she's viable for 3rd team
Donāt have a 3rd team, these two are my best teams and the last a throw/cp team
Rumani isnāt built as yet she will done in 2 more days
Sheās not built
And I donāt plan to
I have her summer skin though
You're gonna need her if you ever made it to CA
I just wanna get to top 3
Whatās a Suisei costume?
I have Moran though not built
You can not invest anis and be fine for CA tbh
#off-topic message
I wrote that so ppl would stop sending me DM lol
Oh lol
Yeah, still with limited battery he might need Anis for 3x2RL
Need advice here @tropic summit
Why Rosanna
Because Rosanna is cuteš„°
Emilia Blanc RH Crown Jackal for that Cindy
I don't get why that comp wouldn't work but use add Vesti for Emilia and Rumani for Rosanna
Burst with Vesti
I meant shell do fine without ol and doll
I mean for SP
Is Ada or Jill any good in the PvP?
I see Prydwen saying Ada is SS in PvP but I dont see anyone using her.
Ada is a flex off burst buffer
Did this today, is situational
Emi won ofc 
Looks like her burst gen lose to SG, she is same burst gen as Tia, Quiry, Maid Anchor and Fairy Anne
jill isnt useable in pvp realistically.
Yeah, Prydwen put Jill at C for PvP
ada works as a buffer, but might work as a b3 burster, but it's very situational
Nikke Limited Select Recruitment - 15 October 2025 (Jill Valentine)
Guess i've wasted 70 pulls on her T_T
if she is used with blanc to kill the enemy team, she will get stopped by blanc and sometimes biscuit.
this is bcuz she only hits 2 people at p1.
And noise and biscuit, which are used
Is case dependant
I did +150 
jill has use in pve, mainly MC in c32 and armor in c33
otherwise raid only nikke
Ah, Jill was also 70 for me
30 for me
Good 
I see some people use her in solo raid, but i think its not worth to put resource on her.
I got Ada at 30 and Jill at 70, overall is a good pulling session.
Nikke Limited Select Recruitment - 10 October 2025 (Ada Wong)
i got ada in first ten pull with the free pulls
I don't see anything wrong with that team if the opponent is like that though
she can replace Scarlet since she works with Trina, but otherwise you'd use her with Ada, but Ein is probably just better overall.
for real?
If ur missing some electric DPS, she can be useable, but realistically unless the boss has a def mechanic, it is difficult to put her in somewhere in most full rosters.
I needed Emilia
Rosanna makes team too slow
Round 3 wasn't winning






