╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[fleet walrus]

So... I accidentally was playing around with some things and fucked up my mods loading list. I can't seem to get all the 444 correctly enabled. Is there a list or way where I can fix this, manually, like going down a list, one at a time, or otherwise?

[naive snow]

Use !scrambled in #🤖bot-commands and use the proper support channels next time

[fleet walrus]

thank you and sorry... I just posted in #🔨modded-gamma-support asking this question... somehow skipped over that channel and assumed this would be the closest thing to ask in, then seeing the support channels and realizing I was a dipshit and somehow skipped over a very key channel

[summer stream]

since i dont know how to properly use substance painter,
what do i set here

[naive snow]

A specular glossiness or something

[summer stream]

which one of those

pbr or maxwell

[naive snow]

PBR

[summer stream]

non-pbr with it too

okay

[naive snow]

It will never really display correctly because there's no one who ever ported the stalker shader

[summer stream]

doesnt matter

at least i need to bake it properly

now

main thing

what the hell do i do here

[naive snow]

It's the export that's the most important really

[summer stream]

i have only normal, metallic, roughness and base color

[naive snow]

Oh

[summer stream]

yeah

[naive snow]

Reset to a new project then, these maps need to be inserted

[summer stream]

where

[naive snow]

Pic the metallic roughness PBR

File or the project window

[summer stream]

okay i got them

i think

now continuing my journey, what do i do

[naive snow]

GF birthday this morning, you're on your own for the rest of the day

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-lick-muah-alcohol-smoke-gif-15291580

time to get fucked by not understanding what the hell that means on their site

[summer stream]

(good luck with birthday tho)

[plucky path]

Does anyone know how the k_hit is calculated into the stopping power shown on ammo description?

9x39 shows 43 dmg

But the stats for the ammo

Don't have anything that would be around said value

So there must be some formula that does calculate it

[summer stream]

k_hit is basically multiplier of the ammo, as i understand

[plucky path]

Unless I'm about to learn that the ammo description is just a scam

[summer stream]

so the description is basically lying to you

[plucky path]

🙂

I merely dipped my toes into the code

And I already hate it

[summer stream]

enjoy dltx

[plucky path]

What even is dltx?

[summer stream]

basically ltx files

[plucky path]

Oh

[summer stream]

they are not so hard to understand but

[plucky path]

Well I'm in them right now

[summer stream]

you will just rip your ass off sometimes to make it work

[plucky path]

Made FMJ AP change, now I made slugs work against anything below exo armor

Exo's take 2/3 shots point blank, 3/4 from 15-25 meters will make them drop on the floor in bleed out animation, and further distance is like 5 shots which makes it not a good decision but a viable one

[plucky path]

Do you want to explain to me how exactly K-hit works?

[summer stream]

from my knowledge, it just uses stats of the GUN

it then multiplies it with the use of k_hit

basically 1 is 100%

which is default dmg

1.02 is 102%

1.5 is 150%

[plucky path]

It multiplies what by said amount?

[summer stream]

that is set in the gun

let me just get a ltx of gun

[plucky path]

Oh the base gun damage?

[summer stream]

yes

[plucky path]

That makes no sense

[summer stream]

i think this

[plucky path]

Does the bullet speed actually affect it?

[summer stream]

no idea at all

[plucky path]

🙂

[summer stream]

dont forget

[plucky path]

Gamba

[summer stream]

it goes also through GBOOBS

so it's random

[plucky path]

I saw the scripts in there

Yeah some bullets just do more or less damage due to GBOOBS

But thanks to you I know to not look at the gun's damage

I actually thought it'd be accurate

My fucking bad

[summer stream]

u good mate

[plucky path]

Back to shit power in grok_bo script

To look at which guns have a random modifier

For no reason

[summer stream]

welcome back to lobotomy

[plucky path]

12x70 buck getting 140% dmg

23x75 shrapnel getting 220% dmg

🙂

[summer stream]

[plucky path]

Time to add my own code and test it on mutants I guess

Back to the AP slug lab

[sturdy plaza]

no, it does not. damage and bullet velocity are two different stats which in no way have anything to do with each other

[plucky path]

So the speed (kinetic power) which tosses the bullet out of the gun

Only affects it's travel speed?

[sturdy plaza]

in this game, yes

[plucky path]

Me thinking better velocity more dmg

[sturdy plaza]

no, but if you are modding stuff, would make sense to increase the damage a tiny bit if the bullet flies faster

[plucky path]

I'll put all the k_hit multiplier in the ammo nominal damage section to start with

Yea, but I never made anything for stalker so I'll stick to editing existing stuff

Since that's harder to fuck up

Tell me, is the damage on the gun stats in the game at least tied to the actual damage of the gun in the stats?

[sturdy plaza]

you and i are in the same bucket. its just i have edited a lot before in the original games. i have no coding knowlage myself. its just gamma is a absolute mess

[plucky path]

Because if it is then I merely have to edit all the bullet types to show the multiplier of their damage and then in my head just do the calc of 0.63 ^ gun damage

I still can't wrap my head around the game showing you stats of the bullets which are just wrong

[sturdy plaza]

i would reccomend only editing gun files themselves regarding damage. the bullet damage multiplier will do its thing in the background. unless you want to change all the guns withing that caliber, then i guess its just easier editing the ammo

[plucky path]

Oh I just want to change the bullet description mod

To show me the k_hit multiplier instead of the nominal power which isn't true

The Text Overhaul Project is responsible for the ammo description

So I'll edit the text in there

[sturdy plaza]

alright...well...thats gona be tough. because on the gun it displays the gun damage value from the gun ltx. it has nothing to do with bullet ltx. i at least assume the idea you got would require some coding as those two things are not interlinked. then again, i might be wrong

[plucky path]

You think too highly of me

I don't want them to be tied together

I will only change the descriptions of ammo types

Because this nominal power ( to my knowledge )

Is a fake stat

This is the ammo type stats

I want to change the nominal stopping power to display the actual k_hit

So 1.05 instead of the 35

[sturdy plaza]

what is the files name?

[plucky path]

So now that I in the game know that this ammo type deals 105% dmg of the gun

[plucky path]

weapon_ammo.ltx

The Close Quarter Combat one

Since it overwrites GBOOBS

And I know editing stuff in this file changes the actual bullets

Since that's what I did to buff AP slugs

And it worked

[sturdy plaza]

anomaly\gamedata\configs\text\eng\st_items_ammo.xml

[plucky path]

I know

I'm in here

[sturdy plaza]

so, changing stuff there doesnt change the description?

[plucky path]

The question was if the gun stats in the game

Are actually the real stats of the guns

So that when I change the items_ammo.xml to k_hit from the weapon_ammo

I will be able to in my head have an accurate representation

So I'll see a gun that does 50 dmg

See that the ammo type has a 1.05 k_hit

So it would on average deal 105% of that 50dmg

Does what I say make sense?

[sturdy plaza]

so you just want to edit the description to make it say it does....uhh...in this situation 52.5 damage?

[plucky path]

No

The ak-74

In it's description deals 37dmg

Is that an actual statistic of the weapon in the files

Or is it fake news?

[sturdy plaza]

let me....check something out

i think its something in the weapon files.....im checking out the ak74 desciption file/text and it has nothing of that in there

[plucky path]

Which file even has the gun stats?

[sturdy plaza]

the ingame ak 74 is....w_ak74_n.ltx

adjusting the recoil is pointless there as there is a whole another file for that lol

make sure it has the _n behind it

as there is another file named ak74.ltx ....or ak74m_n.ltx

[plucky path]

There are so many weapons all over the different folders

[plucky path]

And almost all of their descriptions shown in here seems to be wrong

Unless I'm missing some formula that calculates the weapon's statistic as dmg

[sturdy plaza]

it barely make sense, i know. oh, let me tell you if you scroll down in nearly any of the weapon ltx files, there are more guns stored in it

and majority of the weapon ltx's aint used ingame. just removed from npc's and stashes

like....removed from the game by just making them not spawn. all the files and everything still being there lol

[plucky path]

Ha, ha ha

So I gotta play tag and try to find which file overwrites which weapon

Who duct taped together this piece of shit system

[sturdy plaza]

im basically having fun trying to create my own little thing here and trying to "reverse engineer" how this all works and the more i work with it, the less i understand lol

[plucky path]

I hope there was a good reason for it

[plucky path]

Seems like I'm following in your footsteps

The in game weapon edit tool works though

And this one accurately shows a 1 point of damage difference

With the ak12 mono being 38 dmg

[sturdy plaza]

why the fuck i didnt know of that?!

[plucky path]

Instead of the ak74 being 37

Uuuuh

I also learned that you can go into the debug mode

[sturdy plaza]

there was a gun editing tool ingame this whole time?

[plucky path]

Press 0 and then F5

To reload the game files

So I didn't have to close the game each time I edited something in the files

For the changes to take effect

It's just that I don't know how the fuck does the game the damage

If it's wrong

Since even the gamma spreadsheets show ak's dealing 50 dmg

Which checks out with the in game edit tool

0.50 hit power of the ak74

[sturdy plaza]

could it be hidden in the armor rework mod n shit which adds all this br class rating, could it be tied to that?

[plucky path]

Who knows

I'll just edit the ammo descriptions in bas xml

So it stops lying to me about "nominal damage"

I'll see if I can feed the data to AI and have it manually replace it

[sturdy plaza]

weeeee

[plucky path]

12.7 fmj does 73 nominal damage in description in the ammo ltx it has a k_hit of 1.2 : 1.5

5.45 fmj does 38 nominal damage and has a k_hit of 1.14 ; 1.1

[sturdy plaza]

so. 5.45 realistically does 42 damage

[naive snow]

Why aren't you simply reverse engineering the actual accurate stats mod? It already handles all the damage calculations for displays and the rest of the stats

[sturdy plaza]

and you most likely just ended the whole conversation about this

because that makes perfect sense

[plucky path]

For one I didn't knew it exists

Two, I wanted to scrounge a bit in gamma files to learn how it lies to me so I can rant about it

Three, didnt your gf have a birthday?

[naive snow]

Someone already made a whole ass mod about display the proper stats and not the gmtop inaccurate thing

[plucky path]

Why the fuck is gmtop even in here

[naive snow]

She's off to get a massage, so I have a bit of time while I clean up. How's that even relevant

[plucky path]

If it's just BS half of the time

[plucky path]

It's not relevant to the case, it's relevant to me since I'm a curious person

[naive snow]

Because it's the master project that reworks all texts and descriptions.

[plucky path]

What is the mod's name?

[naive snow]

Actual Accurate Stats

[plucky path]

Does it work for both guns and ammo?

[naive snow]

Every stats in game, food, armor, meds, guns, ammo

[plucky path]

Thanks a lot!

[summer stream]

yeah

forgot to say that

accurate stats is useful here

[plucky path]

Okay, to follow that up. Do any of you based people know how I could pacify the insufferable amount of spawns in the north zone?

Not a fan of 4-6 chimeras/controllers in one place

If you could point me to the direction of the files which affect it, or chooses groups from or an already existing mod

[sturdy plaza]

i want to make backup of files i can only see within virtual file explorer. how do i do that?

[naive snow]

You could search in the #📢development channel for anything about outskirt, chimera, etc. The commit will point you to the right file

[naive snow]

What do you only see in virtual explorer, what's even the point?

[sturdy plaza]

i have edited npc loadouts , i want to create a backup of them now as i want to update the game itself lol. i know, i know my fault for doing it on a outdated version....i think

[plucky path]

I believe I found it in

The GAMMA NPC Spawns that overwrites these locations pulls the spawns from squad description

So by lowering the npc in squad numbers

That would reduce the amount of chimeras

Especially with certain places

Having up to 3 squads

[random fulcrum]

that goes hard

[plucky path]

3 squads of 2 to 3 controllers

Yea, no. Changed to 3 squads of 1 controller

I can't even find what this refers to

As there are no monolith squads in this same mod

[plucky path]

Alright, went one by one and checked the squads and which spots they can spawn in

Should be good to play now

GAMBA is saved

[naive snow]

Just find the last mod that writes to the file you want to modify and right click on it, backup

[summer stream]

@naive snow question, how to make bump if i dont have gloss? do i use curvature that was created in substance painter or what?

[errant shale]

Anyone know how to download RWAPS weapon paack i need help

[summer stream]

ask in
#╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[naive snow]

You'll need to grab something like your roughness map, invert it and then remap it to values you find interesting for the specular.
Thing to understand here: Roughness; how rough a surface representation should be, the rougher the more "mate" look the surface. It's the inverse of Glossiness (which is how glossy/shiny/polished a surface would be)

Specular; it's how much light the surface should reflect. The darker the value, the less light and the more "absorbant" a surface will be. So black values on matte parts. The more white the value the more shiny the part, so white-ish on shiny plastics and metals.

So you can kinda use the information of your roughness, if you flip it so it's like a glossiness.
Glossy black: rough and mate

Specular black: rough and mate
But since they are not one to one in the information they represent, you have to adjust the specular map a bit lower in values (white values are reallllllly fucking shiny)

[summer stream]

so

i did it unexpectedly

by using ID

it looks good

basically i took red channel from the ID

and shoved it down in the normal as gloss

[naive snow]

Dunno what you had in your ID but sure. You're losing on some detail like scratches and wear vs using something like roughness/gloss

[summer stream]

you know what's funny?

ID is the

lemme show

this one

red channel is this

[naive snow]

Wut

[summer stream]

so i basically added it to the normal

it shows off the scratches too

so idk

[naive snow]

Ah it's probably for metalness or something

[summer stream]

yeah

oh wait

in substance painter it's

world space normal

[naive snow]

I'm used to ID being flat xolor

[summer stream]

or this

ah the id is just

black thing

as you say

but yeah

that is counted as ID?

no idea im dumb

[naive snow]

Doesn't matter if it works

[summer stream]

true

that's the point

now i can finally do my stuff

without doing anything wrong

happy

these three are already textures folders

so for now i'll be adding some cool stuff to the game

basically how i feel after finding that shit out :

[quasi narwhal]

fuck that scene with ryder digging his whole backyard trying to find the weed is priceless

what a classic

[summer stream]

true..

[calm marsh]

Has there been a good mod made before that anyone knows of that fixes the AI shooting through trees / butches or ridiculous aimbot when they clearly should not see you? Basically a semi AI overhaul?

[simple scaffold]

There is a mod that changes the material of the plants to not be listed as transparent to the AI.

IDK what it is called tho, I would half expect it to be in gamma already but IDK I don't play gamma

[rough lion]

There's one called "NPC cannot see through foliages"

[fair inlet]

tosox mini mod repo is the one Raven mentioned

[simple scaffold]

Actual combat AI changes exist but aren't going to address this issue. The tools modders have to figure out LOS of an NPC are the same as the ones the engine AI has, if not worse.

[lilac idol]

does anyone know if the suppressor stats affect weapons that have an integral suppressor or is it only for those that can attach it?

[fair canopy]

They do

[lilac idol]

got it ty

[random fulcrum]

for weapon making purposes, no, because of the inflexibility of gbo

it'd work against mutants if you have correctly set up the silencer section in the gun's ltx

[lilac idol]

gbo strikes again

[random fulcrum]

it won't work against humans because of gbo

[lilac idol]

is there anything specific there

[naive snow]

I thought GBO had a private list of the internal suppressors?

[random fulcrum]

a table with integrated suppressor weapons

[random fulcrum]

yeah like imagine

instead of using vanilla methods to see if the gun is suppressed

the literal only gun that wouldn't be caught by doing so is the saboteur but you blame bas for that

for not making silencer_status = 1

[lilac idol]

this is the only thing in the ltx that says something about the suppressor and i don't even know what it means

[random fulcrum]

not a single other gun with that

[random fulcrum]

status = 2 means it's removable

[lilac idol]

yeah ik

[random fulcrum]

then what's the issue

[lilac idol]

this isn't for that gun

it's the only ltx i had in hand

so just making it = 1 will make it work but only on muties? how does that even work

[random fulcrum]

mutant damage goes to the engine

that's why integrated silencers work

damage to human mobs doesn't go to the engine

thus you need to manually set it up

because gbo doesn't account for it

[lilac idol]

is there an easy way to do it or is it just not worth bothering

[random fulcrum]

don't bother

[lilac idol]

aight thanks

[random fulcrum]

gbo is comically inflexible by design

[fair canopy]

I wish we could just use enhanced recoil gold and arti-grok instead

[lilac idol]

arti grok is absolutely goated ngl

btw now that we're talking about that

@fair canopy how did you make the bullet icons?

[fair canopy]

stole borrowed the icons from tarkov and scaled them in ps then applied a few funny filters and some png effects off Google

[lilac idol]

hmm

does tarkov have .300 blk?

[fair canopy]

Yeah

[lilac idol]

great, now i have to find out where i can get the pngs

[fair canopy]

https://tarkov.dev/

[lilac idol]

that will come in handy lol

thanks

[fair canopy]

[dense lichen]

Any recommendations for a big modpack like GAMMA EXP Edition Redux? I can't seem to get that one installed and I'd love something large and comprehensive like it.

Or is this the right place to ask?

[simple scaffold]

Plain GAMMA is already a large comprehensive mod pack.

I promise you that anything claiming to build off of gamma will be shit soup

[simple scaffold]

Another way to look at it is: Any mod pack that doesn't have a discord full of helpers is not worth trying to install.

[errant shale]

Anyone know how to download the RWAPS weapon pack

[sturdy plaza]

got to question. editing npc_loadout_whatever. i know adding a gun to the list will make equal chances between all of them to spawn. is there a way to make lets say only 2 guns spawn with chances of 80/20 and not the standart 50/50?

[errant shale]

i press CTRL+M and selected the packed mod now im here what do i do

[slow bolt]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat

this is for making mods

[naive snow]

You can't change the chances, it's between all items in the pool.

[alpine wraith]

how would i go about changing the way character holds a weapon, i want it to be a more forward hold like the 2nd pic

[slow bolt]

you need to model that yourself and re-animate

99% you aint doing that - otherwise you'd know already

[rotund lotus]

Oof

[lilac idol]

reanimate the weapon or give it the same animation set from another weapon

[rocky plover]

where did you find this file?

[sturdy plaza]

I figured, but maybe there is a way to "trick" the system? For example putting the same gun twice, but giving it a different ammo type? Would the game consider that as a different thing?

Example
wpn_ak74u :0:0
Wpn_ak74u:0:r

And if i add a third one, then its chances would be 33% ?

[summer stream]

so u tell me
that is related to arm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/969924176842473482/1308455671246880889/-tea.gif

same goes for bip01_r_finger3

what the fuck is that

and that is forearm

what on god's earth is that kind of assign

[covert pivot]

iirc you dont even need a different ammo type, just providing the entry multiple times is enough

[sturdy plaza]

Doesnt work, tested with just 2 gun options typing one of them down 4 times and the other just once. It was still 50/50

[covert pivot]

npc_loadouts.ltx also has this info:

; - weapon                - default: /      - [string]                         - section name of the weapon
; - attachment flag     - default: 0      - [0 - (number of flags)]         - ( 0 - no attachment, Scope +1 to flag, GL add +2 to flag, Silencer add + 4 to flag). (if it's set to "r", it will pick random attachement)
; - ammo type             - default: 0      - [0 - (number of ammo - 1)]     - (if it's set to "r", it will pick random ammo type)
; - chance to spawn        - default: 50     - [0 - 100]```

I havent tested the chance value in npc_loadouts, but it does provide a value for it

xrs_rnd_npc_loadout.script should be the one handling the random loadouts and it seems to try using the chance atleast:

    local pick
    shuffle_table(loadouts[slot])
    for i=1,#loadouts[slot] do
        if (math.random(100) < loadouts[slot][i].chance) then
            pick = i
            break
        end
    end
    
    if (not pick) then
        if (#loadouts[slot] > 1) then
            pick = math.random(#loadouts[slot])
        elseif (#loadouts[slot] == 1) then
            pick = 1
        end
    end```

It defaults to 50% chance of a weapon being picked, if nothing gets picked it takes one randomly from all options. And writing multiple values should still work, but then it depends on the random shuffling of all values which are gone through 1 by 1 until one of them hits the 50% selection

so adding 4 of one weapon and 1 of another doesnt really change it to 80/20, but it should still increase the chance of the 4 weapons being looked at before the other and hitting the 50% chance. I dont see anything in the script that would only read unique entries

[sturdy plaza]

I see, but i assume it works for all faction loadouts and cant be simply made yo work for just one faction of how it picks weapons from the list.

[random fulcrum]

true the code doesn't suggest duplicates are ignored

i fell for the scare

have you tried printing out the table?

[sturdy plaza]

Do what?

What do you mean printing it out?

[random fulcrum]

nothing i was speaking my mind out

[covert pivot]

You could edit just one faction and introduce the chance values to it only, but yes all factions seem to work the same

The logic for the chance based selection is a bit weird

[sturdy plaza]

Yea... i dont think i can or even should change the code of how weapons get picked from the list. I much rather find a workaround as changing the ammo type for each entry of the same thing would suffice i think.

[covert pivot]

Like even if you put chance to 100% on 3 different weapons they would still have the same chance to be picked, it just depends on the shuffling which gets looked at first

[covert pivot]

you can do it just by changing the ltx

just add :20 or :80 to the end at it will decrease/increase the chance that entry does get picked

the number being the percentage chance

[sturdy plaza]

For that i would need a example at minimum as sadly i know nothing about coding

[covert pivot]

wpn_ak74u:0:0:80

and then add another gun with 20 in the end

it should be close to 80/20 split then

[sturdy plaza]

And i dont need to change anything else...anywhere?

[covert pivot]

exactly yes

this functionality already exists

its just a bit scuffed

or rather not that easy to make accurate distribution, since the script goes through the entries one-by-one and rolling a dice if that one gets selected or not

[sturdy plaza]

Ok... this is big news to me. This will be very helpful. Got to test it out, but this gives me ideas

Thank you. Once im off work ill give you results of my finding if you care

[covert pivot]

good luck

[covert pivot]

You can read more in the anomaly npc_loadouts.ltx file, it explains it a bit

[naive snow]

Multiple entries do not add more chance for a weapon to spawn. We've already confirmed this with Demonized.

LTX entries doesn't handle multiple entries multiple keys. The engine reads it as the same one.

Like a

wpn_ak47:0:0
wpn_ak47:0:0

Is only read as one, because they are the same key

[random fulcrum]

that shit is weird

[naive snow]

This already has been debunked FYI. The engine crunches down the actual table with multiple entries

[covert pivot]

time to just redo the chance-based random distribution to just be weighted

[naive snow]

It's already planned. The loadout math is just wack tho

[covert pivot]

does it do it to any table? or just one read from an ltx, since the weight value could just duplicate entries into the loadouts table maybe

[naive snow]

Any table in an LTX

[covert pivot]

So inside the random loadout script it should work

if you duplicate by weight in the script

default weight is 1, can add a weight value in ltx (replacing current chance option) for more chance to get picked, and then just do one roll over all found entries

[naive snow]

Well the chances values just lowers the overall chance a weapon gets picked

Like a

wpn_ak47:0:0:20
wpn_ak47:0:0:80

At the readout time is just
wpn_ak47:0:0:80

[covert pivot]

yeah i get that

[naive snow]

The last weight value always crucnhes whatever else

[covert pivot]

I mean the script should be redone to not have chance but just be a weight

so the chance comes from weight/weight-of-all-entries

[covert pivot]

im busy

[naive snow]

[sturdy plaza]

So... you saying

By adding any amount of "weight" will make it rarer in general?
So if everything has them it will work as intended?

[gleaming tide]

I hope somebody will make a mod to change S2 inventory to the OG one

[naive snow]

See it like this, if you have 4 different weapons in your table, they each have a 25%.
If you add a 50% chance to one of the weapons, that weapon now has a 12.5% roughly of spawning

Or rather 15.625% but whatever

[random fulcrum]

the table gets shuffled

then the chance gets rolled

a 100000 weight gun won't be guaranteed to spawn

[sturdy plaza]

I got the idea. That is very useful info. If i give weight to 3 weapons of 30 and 4th has weight of 10. Will that work as intended as all of them have it or the calculations will happen differently?

[naive snow]

The chances values are simple random (0-100) < chance_value when the system lands on that particular gun. It's not really a weight

[random fulcrum]

ye

[naive snow]

No.
Lets say your table is something like
Gun_1:0:0:30
Gun_2:0:0:30
Gun_3:0:0:30
Gun_4:0:0:10

The game looks at the table, picks one randomly, lets say gun_3
It rolls a dice, from 0 to 100, lets say 55.
55 being more than the 30% chance, it skips the gun.
Goes to the next one. If all rolls fail, it picks one random weapon from the table

[sturdy plaza]

Oh, so to dumb it down. The game picks a gun as it normally does, but if you add this weight or whatever it is and based and calculates the chance of it actually spawning? If it doesnt meet the chance it goes again from start picking a gun

A, so it only repeats the cycle once?

[naive snow]

A weapon from the table of 4 choices has 25% of being picked for that first roll, it then has to roll again on that chance.
That second roll only lowers the odds of that gun being picked.
If all the rolls fail, the guns all have the same 100/NumberOfGuns chances

[sturdy plaza]

I see, it cycles through them and if it fails all of them, it just goes back to even odds between all of them

[naive snow]

The chance value isn't a weight. It doesn't make a weapon, if you set it to 200, twice as likely to appear.
In the previous example, the weapon would still only have a 1/4 chance of being picked, the 200 only automatically succeeds on the next dice roll. So the weapon is still 1/4 chances

If the system was to be remade into a pure script table, you could make it so that if the chance is more than a 100, act as two entries on the table, effectively double the chance of a weapon appearing. The issue is that you start fighting all of the other weights if they're not normalized.
If a modder makes the weight of his weapon 99, but another moder makes another weapon at 9999, your whole table becomes abysmally small numbers

[sturdy plaza]

The main idea is to make one or two weapons to appear rarely out of all the table what is there. Adding a dice roll to them will male them rarer than the chance it normally has. So by adding like 50 to those specific guns will make the game roll a dice and if it fails it will pick something else. So in thoery i will achieve exactly what i want. Its just a hassle of accidentally making something stupidly impossible to get

[naive snow]

Just make the dice roll chance 10% or something.
So if there's 10 weapons on your table, you get 10%*0.1 chances which is a little more than 1.1%

[sturdy plaza]

Understood. Thank you!

Honestly thanks to everyone bothering to explain this to me. This surely wont be the last question i got

[true lance]

Anyone plan on making mods for stalker 2?

[summer stream]

it is not settled down yet

we dont know if people WILL make those

time will tell

don't ask such thing here

[naive snow]

The game JUST unlocked and we haven't even had a look at the modding tools or even if they're included in the initial build of the game

[summer stream]

[naive snow]

I'd rather play the shit out of the game for the next couple of days to a week and then ponder on if it is worth modding and what would be an interesting addition IF it is even possible at that point in time

[covert pivot]

50% is default value, provided by the script if it doesnt exist in the ltx. so if you put :50, nothing will change

loadouts[section][cnt].chance = tonumber(tmp[4]) or 50

[naive snow]

Yeah I forgot the existing default

It skews down the overall chance a bit

[covert pivot]

it balances out i guess, since if all have default then all of them skew down and if nothing gets chosen it runs a random roll over all of them

[naive snow]

But yeah at 4 weapons on the table with no specified chances still have a 25% chance overall.
So you can ever so slightly increase the chance of a weapon, but to something like 35% or something with 4 weapons. The moment you add more guns all the chances just become abysmally small (considering the current state of loadouts since the sections inherit from the previous)

I do need to finish the excel table I was working on that printed the overall chance of a weapon appearing at a given tier

[sturdy plaza]

Oh, everything has a default value of 50 per weapon? It just aint shown?

[random fulcrum]

yeah if undefined in the ltx it's defaulted to 50

[summer stream]

amazing texture, marvelous

[naive snow]

What's all that black, use your uv space properly

[summer stream]

@naive snow also question, do you know how to PROPERLY bake bump maps?

since i'm braindead

[naive snow]

Ay, what do you need?

[summer stream]

basically i want to bake the bump so i can make the blade shiny

and i need to use substance painter for it buuut

you know me, i'm using it for doing other stuff

troll_shrug

[naive snow]

Hold on I'll show you the export preset, if my licence for painter still holds up

[summer stream]

okay then

[summer stream]

main question is

[naive snow]

Then you'd just do the same channel order as before

[summer stream]

where
do i find it

[naive snow]

Find what?

[summer stream]

where do i set it

[naive snow]

Set what?

You can't use a bump map in Substance

if that's what you're asking

[summer stream]

the EXPORT

[naive snow]

File\ Export Textures

[summer stream]

uh huh

[naive snow]

But like you don't even have your textures plugged in, what are you even trying to export?

[summer stream]

so

[summer stream]

idk the person who said me to "bake" the texture so it can be like that

[naive snow]

Change the formats to TGA, PNG is ass

Hold on are you just trying to bake a normal map from a hirez?

[summer stream]

what the fuck is hirez

[naive snow]

A high resolution mesh. You'd typically bake the sculpted details of that high resolution mesh unto the low resolution mesh you'd use in game

[summer stream]

ahh

[naive snow]

If you just have the low resolution mesh for in-game and the normal maps already baked from the high resolution mesh, there's no need to really go in substance

[summer stream]

honestly i think it's because of the bump i have which is

kinda uhh
strange

[naive snow]

Send it my way and I'll have a look

Yeah it's fucked

Someone put a channel in there that doesn't belong

[summer stream]

ah fuck's sake

do i need to re-do it now

[naive snow]

That blue channel isn't the normal Y it's like a glossiness or something

[summer stream]

oh wait

the BLUE one is the supposed to be gloss?

[naive snow]

No

There's no channel that is the glossiness

[summer stream]

tbh that seems like gloss

so ig blue should've been green

[naive snow]

The blue channel is supposed to be the normal Y channel

[summer stream]

yeah i fucked up

a bit

[naive snow]

That's a metallic map

This is a gloss
but you could add the smudges for some interesting details

[summer stream]

smudges?

[naive snow]

Send me that map + the normal and I'll show you

[summer stream]

okay

[naive snow]

Like the smears that are on the blade

[summer stream]

ahhh

got it

it's basically putting METALLIC on the GLOSS

by that you mean like multiplying?

[naive snow]

Here, I wrote on the layers the blend mode I set them as

[summer stream]

yeah looks like i'm retarded, sorry

can you give it to me

[naive snow]

Sent it, try that on

This is the end result of the specular map

[summer stream]

that looks so smooth

[naive snow]

A trick to identify the normal directions if you're working off scrambled textures. Normal map channels look as if you lit the model from the sides or from the top:

[summer stream]

got it

[naive snow]

How's it looking in game?

[summer stream]

lemme load in first

i'll look at that

mmmm

[naive snow]

You might have to tweak the specular channel a bit, I went off pure mental gymnastics for it

[summer stream]

marvelous

[summer stream]

yeah i'm gonna slightly reduce brightness on it

just to look how is it gonna work

i would also need to do "operations" for me to not fuck it up

next times

since i'm an idiot

[naive snow]

Identifying the channels of ripped models is a pain unless you're used to working with materials and game engines

[summer stream]

i'm becoming a modder, so it will be deadly

[naive snow]

Like half of the channels you sent over are a form of ID

[summer stream]

yep

id

[naive snow]

Like one defines, the blade, so I'm thinking it's something that tells the engine, hey this bit is a material different and a metal

[summer stream]

burn

that's mw19 assets

of course it will be like that

[naive snow]

I've never looked at their models or their asset

[summer stream]

same for me, but i was forced since they have lots of cool skins for knifes

looks better

rn i gotta to work with thm file

how do i make it shiny...

[naive snow]

Either metals

[summer stream]

ill try phong metal

also just a quick question, do i change something here or nah

[naive snow]

Material weight to One

Maybe chaneg the shading model

[summer stream]

ill try it with material weight 1 rn

if it doesnt be like that, then i'll try different shading model

[naive snow]

Just be aware that it will make the WHOLE model shiny and metal

[summer stream]

nope

it's separated in case u didnt know

i thought of that

[naive snow]

Nice well done

[summer stream]

at least i didnt forget that one part

[naive snow]

Ah right, don't forget the Game Flags

[summer stream]

ok yeah it DEFINETELY looks more shiny

[covert pivot]

phong metal should be the shinier variant. OrenNayar is a more rough/dull material shader

[summer stream]

the bump detail?

or diffuse?

[naive snow]

Is that the the only flags?

You should have a Generate Mipmap, Has Alpha, etc

[summer stream]

yeah

i have a different version of thm editor

[naive snow]

Are they in the SDK flag then?

[summer stream]

yeah

turns out yeah

what do i set here

[naive snow]

So on the base color, you want Generate Mip Maps, Dither Color, the Format should be DXT1, mip filter Kaiser

For the bump you want Generate Mip Maps, Has Alpha. The format should be DXT5, mip filter Kaiser

[summer stream]

that is done

now lemme brighten up the texture of blade + make the X channel less bright

[naive snow]

Welp S2 is done downloading for me, my shit is updated and ready. I'm going in. See around the zone fellows

[summer stream]

good luck

@naive snow thank you burn, that made it look better

joe_pray

thank you very much for handling my stuff

[naive snow]

Oh yeah that looks great! The grease smears on the blade look nice when they catch the light

[summer stream]

now i can finally give it to the person that asked me for it

and thank you for explaining everything about the texture and how to make it like that, i'll now do that to rest of knifes (if i will able to)

[simple scaffold]

i have a shirt with that cammo pattern in a box in my basement.

like this

i just don't understand why a us navy NWU-1 jacket would be in the zone.

TBH i don't know why that particular camo pattern ever got made in the first place.

i prefered it when they had me dressing like a mechanic. because that what i was.

don't need to blend in witht he walls in a submarine

[summer stream]

mercenaries

[lethal garden]

Guys. What the fuck is up with the accuracy of the AK-style rifles? Look at this grouping, this from burst and automatic fire.

The first round impacts with the point of aim, but everything after that flies drastically upwards.

What can I change in the LTX to fix this?

[random fulcrum]

that's you not pulling down

change the zoom_cam_dispersion values in the gun's ltx

[simple scaffold]

Nothing short of making the gun laser accurate. Every shot after the first while the trigger is held has a compounding amount of inaccuracy. After more than about three rounds aim is shit and gets worse faster

[wise wadi]

Hello, so someone said that Atmos is already in the modpack but I followed this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z51uAKqoLQM
I did that for nothing?

[random fulcrum]

brother like

holy shit

what comes to the mind when you read "nah that mod is part of vanilla gamma"

[wise wadi]

I can just see differences in MO2.

and steps to do but ok, I mean, maybe I should have just download files from discord and it will be done in 5s than 30 mins 🤣 😅

Also, it was 444 mods first but now I have 450 with Ayding grass, lod, sss, Arrival ..

That's why I'm asking.

[slow bolt]

1)This is for making mods
2) Aydins is in gamma. SSS is in gamma. Atmos is in gamma.
3) Stop following restarted youtube guides. You only make it worse

[lethal garden]

Understood, but compared to the m4, for example, the grouping is much different, and relatively stays within my point of aim.

With most AK style weapons, the impacts land many feet above the point of aim.

[simple scaffold]

Compare the keys in the guns that have "disp" in them. They control how much the camera moves for recoil.

Probably need to reduce some of them

[simple scaffold]

cam_dispersion_inc this one and there is one similar for ADS. is the base number that gets multiplied by the shot count and added to the camera displacement every shot.

i think it is the one you want to mess with. you can probably find a sweat spot between lazer acurate and what the guns have now. the 2nd world guns are pretty bad compared to the western ones.

[slow bolt]

@sand whale

you need to upack your .db folders

[fringe gazelle]

anyone knows whats the software groks using to read files like that pls #📢announcements message

[slow bolt]

#╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[slow bolt]

This is for making mods not asking for them

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[fringe gazelle]

i never asked for a mod? i asked for the software, ence it's a mod making discussion, i want to work on stalker 2 mods

if this sounds rude, my bad

[slow bolt]

Reply was to other person who deleted their message

Almost 3 hour time difference

[fringe gazelle]

ah sorry, i thought it was for me since you just tagged stalker 2 channel t_t

much love to you

[plucky path]

Does anyone else use Fillable Canteens? I can't seem to be able to fill them with water in most water surfaces unless I'm 70% below the water surface

And looking in the files it uses some geometry rays to determine where you can fill it with water so I can't edit it so easily

[summer stream]

im gonna go insane soon 🔥
how do i make weights on hands faster

[naive snow]

Assign them via a heat map or bone influence/bone capsules

[summer stream]

burn there is one fact that will make you go insane

THEY ARE ALL FUCKING SEPARATED 🔥

AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ASSIGN THEM USING HEAT MAP

🔥

[naive snow]

Just hit merge

[summer stream]

they are all like that

[naive snow]

Select all, merge, set the distance super low

It will merge vertices that are near one another based on the distance

[summer stream]

ooh

OOOOOOOH

[naive snow]

Voila, a merged model you can work off

[summer stream]

yeah that helps A LOT

now i can smooth it up

thanks burn

btw about the bone influence n bone capsules

i tried that before but it didnt really work

since nothing is assigned to vortex groups

[slow bolt]

vasyan

[summer stream]

idi naxyi

[naive snow]

There's an automatic mapping function you can use, check most blender tutorial for weight painting

[summer stream]

👍

okay

but rn i'll do it by hand

[covert pivot]

We need a weighted naked stalker body to transfer weights from

[summer stream]

true tho

with not broken weights that doesn't break apart

[covert pivot]

with some simple ingame animation loop imported as well to test the weights in motion in blender

[summer stream]

you know what?

probably hands inspection

and my internet went off

amazing

now let me summarize it

[covert pivot]

wrist rotation and bend will likely be the most breaking spots, or any finger motions

[summer stream]

1. it moves your hands around
2. twists ur forearm
3. rotation
4. fingers bending

you just smooth it all up and u good

[covert pivot]

yeah that sounds a good range of different motions

if it can handle that well itll probably work 99% other cases

[summer stream]

if only someone could do that

😔

[covert pivot]

i just use other people devkits in blender, too much dumb juice drinking to do it myself

[summer stream]

smae

same

[covert pivot]

I found a 480p video on youtube that shows .omf file importing for character models using pavels xray addon for blender, probably something like would work for hand animations as well

https://youtu.be/7T6BUxazxbE?t=218

[stoic geode]

Hey! Can anyone redirect me to any tutorials or links that can help me learn modding for S2? I want to reduce the health of enemies, or maybe change the damage values of guns. I've never modded in my life but I'm very eager to learn.

[naive snow]

The game's been up for little more than a day and you're expecting tutorials already?

If you want the mutant health reduction mode, check the mod nexus

[stoic geode]

No I'm not expecting tutorials, I just wondered if all ue5 games have the same kind of modding style. Grok already made a comment on how to start out so I'll just start there

[naive snow]

"Can anyone redirect me to any tutorials" bruv
No not all UE5 games use the same structure. You'll need a cracked AES key, use fmodel, figure out how to pack files using unrealpak.

[stoic geode]

Yeah tutorials was the wrong word lol. Just meant like any tips

[naive snow]

Most modders are still figuring out how to even pry open the game to look inside. Wait a month of two and it will be public knowledge by that point.

[misty mulch]

also, #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[naive snow]

Wow that's already a thing huh

[misty mulch]

there's even a crude tutorial in there @stoic geode

oh they're in there

[plucky path]

Didn't grok release one already? Specifically reducing some monsters hp?

[fair canopy]

Bloodsucker are tanks

So he reduced their hp

And can confirm. I've hit one with 10 buckshot to the chest and still had to load it up with a full mag of 9x19 before it died

Granted I haven't found any 45 weapons yet so idk how well those do against mutants, and I'm not wasting precious 545 ammo to find out how that does

[quasi narwhal]

i'm playing on Veteran and I ran into one with a squad right next to me, we were like 3-4 shooting at it and that thing wouldn't go down

they tank so much

[sudden inlet]

Just curious, is it even possible to change a faction completely at the base in XRay? That Garbage story handled this feature quite well

[simple scaffold]

"at the base" like low level changes to the faction. or does base mean the map location?

[sudden inlet]

oh, like, Rostok is a Duty base now, right, then let's say Freedom push it and now it's Freedom base

[summer stream]

i think for that you should change fully the structure of spawns on that specific map

[simple scaffold]

sure. what NPCs spawn at a location is 100% in the smart logic. could put in flag check and have it swap over to an alternitive logic with freedom NPCs.

you would need to make the traders and mechanics generic or have a way for them to retreate and come back as control changes back and forth

warfare has generic traders to let them be killed and replaced

[plucky path]

Unless you come up with a working checkpoint like if you kill the duty general

Duty stops spawning etc

There already are conditions that if full filled will spawn specified groups

In the mod set

The most common one is if the legend of the north brain scorcher is disabled I believe

It causes sin to spawn in northern locations

Alongside more powerful mutants

[sudden inlet]

Smart logic was always the thing I tried to avoid (as well as doing quests), guess it's time to suffer again

[plucky path]

Sadly smart terrain seems to be the easiest solution here AFAIK

[simple scaffold]

anything else has you fighting the smart system. better to just work inside of it. the modding book has a guide on condlists that is the system that handles core logic. it can be extended with script functions, to the point where much of the logic happens in script if you want. or you could probably do a large portion of this just in condlists and dialogue/task logic.

[simple scaffold]

many of the jobs in a location are tied to patrol paths built into the map. just populating the smart with stalkers should have them fill out the guard and idel jobs. it's the special charecters, merchants and stuff that will need a bit of work. although if made generic even those roles could fill automaticly as well.

or you can manualy fill them with the logic with exclusive jobs. you will really need to pick apart the existing smart logics to get a solid understanding. (heck i would too, been a long time since i did more than poke at smart logic)

[covert pivot]

Warfare does handle the whole base capture and stuff, you could probably poke and prod in there quite a bit. iirc it even has some randomizer for base locations at start of game

[woeful halo]

Does anyone know if its possible to port models from Stalker 2 to anomaly? (also if this illegal dont ban me im just not aware)

[simple scaffold]

it is against the stalker EULA.

[woeful halo]

[fair pollen]

Like that stopped anomaly community from porting weapons from tarkov, ready or not, etc Also I'm more than sure that they will be ported. And probably to such sites where GSC has no authority over administrators of the sites to make them delete it.

I've already seen people that have pirated s2 and now are checking files and all.

[simple scaffold]

GSC can DCMA all of Anomaly and GAMMA in one request to ModDB. unlike the other companies that would need to go after individual addons.

i assume the stance of @undone lily and the anomaly devs will be "lets not poke that bear"

[woeful halo]

not not

[undone lily]

? We are in contact with GSC dw

We agreed on the we had to do to meet the guidelines

[misty mulch]

p sure that is in response to hypothetically, people mass porting S2 models into GAMMA

which i agree, would be stupid

from a risk perspective

[simple scaffold]

so no stalker 2 assests in gamma. would be your offical policy then

and ppl prbably shouldn't distribute them in this discord?

[fair pollen]

No one even said anything about gamma. Just porting s2 models to anomaly.

[undone lily]

Ah, that’s another story: imho, anomaly and gamma remain under GSC control. S2 is GSC. Porting S2 in anomaly is GSC property within GSC property so I fail what they would DMCA

[simple scaffold]

talking about that here amounts to talkign about piracy which is against the gamma discord rules last i checked

[undone lily]

There’s a difference between piracy and assets porting imo

[summer stream]

true

[fair pollen]

Well some people just pirate it, and then steal assets

[undone lily]

Having some S2 models in anomaly won’t turn anomaly to S2

[summer stream]

kinda pointless argument pain, y'know

[fair pollen]

I'm just saying that.

[undone lily]

Anomaly and GAMMA are in a gray zone of “everything is under GSC umbrella”

[woeful halo]

GSC might have a problem with distributing s2 models for free to anomaly users though right

[fair pollen]

No one is stopping you from buying the game and then taking a look into s2 files and all.

You just need a tool to data-mine the stuff and that's it.

[woeful halo]

yeah like official stalker 2 modding tools soon

[fair pollen]

Or use fmodel

Ain't talking more or I might get an actual mute or even ban

[misty mulch]

modding - of most sorts - exists in a legally grey area and a lot of it is sustained off everyone with the IP rights, acknowledging it does them more good than harm. generally speaking, it is smart not to antagonize. otherwise, see what the fuck happened to emulators.

like this is not a just a question of "what are we allowed to do", it's a question of "what can modders do up until the point where it starts making people take notice with a much more unfriendly attitude than before, and what's the risk (to the modding scene) of them coming in MUCH angrier than they have previously"

[simple scaffold]

step one of tjat process is basicly what is described here tho:

[quasi narwhal]

"You are prohibited to [...] reverse engineer [...]" mfs 1h into the launch unpacking shit already

honestly I don't see the point of porting high poly models for weapons and NPCs when the rest of the scenario is not

[covert pivot]

looks at how popular hd models was

[fair pollen]

A lot of people like using hd models, though.

[simple scaffold]

yes. of course. that doesn't change the possibility that back porting would be considered piracy. I know that Bethesda specifically forbids it actually.

there is an argument that takeing things from stalker 2 into mods like anomaly could hurt the stalker 2 sales, and that would bad.

[quasi narwhal]

yeah but there's a good 10 year gap between those and S2 models + I've never used them because it's a bunch of assets from other games stitched together

[simple scaffold]

the entier semi blessed status that anomaly and gamma have was just an effort to avoid bad press and hurt the stalker 2 launch.

[quasi narwhal]

I think they wouldn't mind much people reverse engineering/unpacking stuff to make Stalker 2 mods, but for other Stalker games is a bit much no

it doesn't matter if it's from the same company or not, it's still another title/game

[simple scaffold]

i would avoid it until someone gets around to specificly asking GSC and getting an answer.

[undone lily]

that's for stalker 2 ?

[simple scaffold]

the EULA link

[undone lily]

thanks

I think it's worth contacting GSC for sure

[simple scaffold]

easier for you than me ;P

[radiant nimbus]

can we get a mod that gets rid of that dumbass death screen 🥺

i just want text that says "lost to the zone" tbh. death counter is a cool idea tho

[quasi narwhal]

you mean the S2 one with the bloodsucker?

[radiant nimbus]

yeah that one

i kinda dont like it

feels a bit goofy

[quasi narwhal]

yeah it's so cringe

it is goofy as hell

[simple scaffold]

wrong channel #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[radiant nimbus]

ah.

i shall take my complaints there

[random fulcrum]

damn so does this kill "emulating" mechanics from the game back in anomaly

[late topaz]

I think I’d like to get into stalker 2 modding/modding in general, I’ve got a decent amount of experience in coding languages but not c#. any advice on where to start?

[fair pollen]

UE is c++, though

[simple scaffold]

ideas should be fine, you won't actualy need the code to do that any way. assets are what i would stay away from for now. don't back port models, textures, voice files, things like that

[late topaz]

Fug

Any advice on what I need to start snooping around

[simple scaffold]

so is xray.

but the game logic and items are not implemented in C++

stalker 2 could use lua even. probaly uses UE's scripting thing instead. don't know yet

[simple scaffold]

maybe in #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[naive snow]

Yeah it is blueprint logic mostly

[supple ravine]

hey, does anybody have the link or file to gammas footstep sounds? found them, they are dark signals

[random fulcrum]

cool, i was worried cause i've seen "reverse engineer" be used as a scapegoat for emulating ideas before

the term scares me

[vast plaza]

maybe one of you knows that. Is there a mod that changes the HUD effects? What I mean exactly:

Old screen bleeding effect. where the whole screen sometimes turns completely red and lasts for a few seconds.
I would like to have newer ones that aren't so pixelated and stretch across the screen for seconds.

[random fulcrum]

that effect is in the main menu settings

it's inside the first submenus

can't remember which one exactly

it's called bleeding effect

[vast plaza]

yes i know. i like to have an effect on the screen but not this old shitty one 😉

[random fulcrum]

nah idk what you mean then really

maybe read up on how to make post process effects

in the modding book

[lethal garden]

Tried shaving down my mod count of 700+ by disabling some mods I decided I could do without, but upon start-up, games crashing without a CTD error.

Any idea? Thank you

[fair canopy]

#🔨modded-gamma-support

[lethal garden]

Look, I love the EFT weapon pack and the work that mod creators put in. Im an absolute gun dork.

But jesus christ, in my opinion, sometimes I cant stand the hand positions/animations for some weapons, like this 9A91.

I dont know if others can agree with me on this.

Isnt this more acceptable? Thank God for Draggable hud editor.

And this SKS, when aiming with equipped optics, all you can see is this front hand hanging way off . Cant be remedied.

[elder cargo]

@wintry swan The mod u listed in #╟🔰☢newbies-chat has this in that mods description:
Should be compatible with everything EXCEPT addons that replace vanilla damage system, such as GBO. Will try to add compatibility in the future.

Gamma uses its own damage system iirc, something ballistics

[wintry swan]

Ahhh good to know. Thank you!

[karmic cape]

Hello everyone, I wanted to change the frequency of the main character's phrases when killing, how can I do this? I was told to manually modify it and it’s obvious, but I didn’t figure out what needed to be changed

[summer stream]

find this script

and it should be about this

[misty mulch]

that is what GBO stands for lmao. Grok's Ballistic Overhaul

[elder cargo]

ah ty, new to gamma so i dont know all the abbreviations yet

[misty mulch]

you can always look through the full list of mods in gamma https://stalker-gamma.com/mods/list

[summer stream]

sooo
what the fuck do i do in this situation where i literally have that shit

and i clearly can't do anything about it

ok so it was fixed by importing as object

but

now what the fuck broke rn

yeah no im gonna take a look into that later

in case someone wants to try it out, get the blend file

rn i'm just gonna take a break and

holy shit it's 44 mb

[covert pivot]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[full stratus]

missclick sorry

[naive snow]

I'll have a look sure. How does this shit always happen to you

[summer stream]

i exported it

mmm

finger :)

[naive snow]

Oh boy, that twisted knuckle

Sweet glove model tho

[celest forge]

And thats why for animation rigs you're only recommended to use vanilla hands

[summer stream]

yeah i know

but LORD I want to make them better

idk how to do proper weight

they look so good

[faint sable]

I like using MHP hands

[summer stream]

they're good

[faint sable]

I stopped using thap because they just don't fit guns like that other pack does

[summer stream]

but i just gotta know HOW to copy weight

HOW to properly position everything

and HOW to not fuck it all up

[fair canopy]

Wha pack?

Cause tbh I'm not a fan of thaps monkey paws either

[summer stream]

#1241660171361718375

this

[fair canopy]

Ah I thought that was just reskinned thap

[faint sable]

nah it doesn't need thap anymore

[fair canopy]

Oh nice

[faint sable]

and the hands feel a lot better imo

[spring mango]

пиздец рукам плохо

[summer stream]

Ага

Хочешь их потрогать?

[spring mango]

нет

[summer stream]

Значит да

Доставай свой блендер сынок

[woeful halo]

I agree, do you use the hud offsets addon for draggable hud editor?

[somber herald]

i've been looking for a mod to show task rewards on the tasklist, but have come up empty. however, i did find a mod that shows targets in advance (https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/extended-task-info), so I surmise it must be possible. is there a good resource or tutorial on scripting for stalker?

very annoying when you accept a fetch task of some type and the reward is not at all worth it (looking at you, Lukash asking for guns)

[deft agate]

pak

[somber herald]

pak?

[misty mulch]

i think the issue is that the rewards are rolled when you turn in the quest, not when you accept it

[somber herald]

uhh yeah that's a good point. but i guess tasks must have a rewards range at least? hmm ..

[misty mulch]

how would you account for stuff like the "give me a weapon" tasks where the reward is tied to the condition of the quest item?

[somber herald]

i assume tasks have either a min/max reward range or a base reward with variance, and then modifiers on that. then you could show that. but i've only taken a few looks at it for the barrier defense thing from a few days ago, so i'm just assuming.

i guess i could start by looking at something like the barrier defense reward and then something with a little more variability, maybe aslan's lottery

the amass supplies tasks could also be good since they have explicit modifiers (just thinking out loud here)

[lethal garden]

Does anyone know what mod that changes the hunger, thirst, sleep, and resistance UI in the inventory to number percentages? I believe Grok just implemented it into GAMMA, but Im not looking to update quite yet.

like this

[fair inlet]

G.A.M.M.A. Accurate Defense Values
it's on dev only though

[lethal garden]

Im sorry, what do you mean by dev only? Cant be accessed?

[fair inlet]

not via launcher if you're not a tester

[lethal garden]

Ah shit I see! Thanks.

[spring comet]

Hi, i have a question: ¿Is possible to change the name of the .omf and the location (like dynamics\weapons\wpn_name\wpn_name_hud_animation to newfolder\newfolder\wpn_name_hud_animation) to be more organize and matching the weapon and not getting the " Can't find motion file '.omf' "?

[covert pivot]

What have you tried so far? One idea that could work is taking an existing well weighted hands (ill call them base hands) that are relatively simple and not with much details to muddy the datatransfer, (youve probably already done this since you have it pretty good in game) match your hands as well as possible to the default position then edit the base hands mesh to basically cover your hands completely.
Then you want to use a data transfer modifier, have the base hands as source and copy over weight data - it should be vertex data -> vertex groups and you can try different mapping types. I havent done this in a bit and not with stalker so im not 100% if it actually will work like this. It would probably be a decent base to adjust from. Always have backups tho

ive done glove weight painting only once and for that i atleast had an already weighted hand underneath, but the idea is roughly the same. Biggest issue with any finger weight data transfer will be between fingers that will need manual cleaning up or you transfer the weights finger by finger by limiting the process to specific vertex groups and hiding unaffected parts of the mesh

you could also try to scale the base hands down to be the inside part instead, will probably have less weird weight transfering since there'd be less mesh clipping probably

And after transferring you can try the .omf import into blender with pavels xray addon and have an unchanged version of base hands and your weighted hands just run the animations, which you can then weight paint mid animation as well to iron out wonky stuff

[shell mortar]

local distance = vector():set(obj_pos):sub(actor_pos):length()

attempt to call method 'length' its nil are there method to calculate length distance?

[random fulcrum]

distance_to

not with vectors

obj_pos:distance_to(actor_pos)

[marsh bough]

How do I remove the rattle/clicking sound when running with the G36k?

[fair inlet]

disable in mcm
don't remember if it's available in your gamma version though

[marsh bough]

I have no idea what to disable, I was thinking I would just find the sound file and swap it for a silent one.

[fair inlet]

weapon sounds > sprint rattle
as for sound it's uhh, sprint_rifle?

[marsh bough]

That's the one!

noice, and it's as easy as a quick edit in Audacity, I'll keep a backup of the file just in case.

[summer stream]

[covert pivot]

[summer stream]

man

[covert pivot]

unless you have matching topology, doing some sort of nearest-part-of-mesh weight transfer is pretty much the only way I know of

[summer stream]

sir

there is over 70k+ polygons

[covert pivot]

[summer stream]

it's a cod hands

what do you expect

[covert pivot]

https://youtu.be/IPQ2QVVIxLU is a short video example of the same idea, they use just the transfer window instead of modifiers, both work, but modifiers are kinda safer since you can edit and see the results before actually applying them

but you just want to do it the other way, instead of editing shape of your hands, you want to edit the shape of the base hands that youll copy weights off of

[simple scaffold]

an idea i would like to see:

rejiggering the anomaly maps to more closly match the layout in 2 and add in some of the new areas

[formal plover]

Hello everyone. I tried to install that mod before and it gave me an error

[slow bolt]

TLDR is you need to read the error and fix the dltx conflict. Then do it over again until none are left

[formal plover]

What is TDLR?

[slow bolt]

"In short"

[formal plover]

This mod

[formal plover]

In the short term you mean?

[slow bolt]

As in the short explanation

So this:
(Arguments: Duplicate section 'antibio_chlor' wasn't marked as an override.
Override section by prefixing it with '!' (![antibio_chlor]) or give it a unique name.
Check this file and its DLTX mods:
"c:/stalker anomaly\gamedata\configs\items\items\animations_settings.ltx",
file with section "anims_list.ltx",
file with duplicate "mod_animations_settings_eftmpefp.ltx")

[formal plover]

I'm talking about the same mod.

[slow bolt]

means you find mod_animations_settings_eftmpefp.ltx and add ! to [antibio_chlor] inside it so it becomes ![antibio_chlor]

[formal plover]

mmm

[slow bolt]

I am not sure what you are doing now

its a screenshot of an installer from a different mod

[formal plover]

My initial idea was always to have the same Tarkov mod that uses EFP for Gamma. Now if I can have one that has the EFT meds I'm fine.

[formal plover]

the mod that you talked about in the discussion

[slow bolt]

Its just the same BHS system but with some meds icons and effects swapped for EFT meds. There is no practical difference

[formal plover]

The point is that neither of them works.

In GAMMA

[slow bolt]

The other mod is made to work with any modpack. It certainly works with gamma

[formal plover]

Well, then I install that one but it doesn't work for me. Look, this is the error I get

Should I install all that? Or it is not necessary

[formal plover]

Same mod

[slow bolt]

Some options say (GAMMA)

tick those that say gamma and have correct version

[formal plover]

I thank you in advance for your kindness.

[formal plover]

Oh man i think i love you

Take a look

Ohh my godness

Thank you so much really

thank's a lot!

[alpine wraith]

can someone point me to where the rd74 anim files im gonna try and swap them with the ak12 monolith ones

i checked in the bas mod file but didnt see it

[tall ibex]

is there a mod that allows us to just change the companion weight limit?

[slow bolt]

Unless weapons have exactly the same bones - you wont be able to do this

[slow bolt]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat #╓☢stalker-chat this is for making mods, not asking for mods

[tall ibex]

oh mb then

[analog birch]

I hope this isn't the wrong place to ask this, but I want to teak some of modifiers for the skills mod. Specifically make leveling those skills more rewarding, IE increasing run speed and carry weight. I found the .ltx file that holds all of the values and I was curious if anyone has messed with them

[fair canopy]

cant you change those multipliers from the mcm menu?

[alpine wraith]

Gotcha im trying to start somewhere with modding I’ve done some for mgsv but don’t really know where to start for anomaly

[summer stream]

you can try doing ltx files

they are simply to understand

rest requires some specialized stuff

textures?
paint or Photoshop, GIMP too

models?
Blender (there is also other stuff, but i forgot their name)

and also scripts which needs knowledge of lua

[pulsar lagoon]

are people gonna replicate the controllers effects and stuff from stalker 2 into gamma

[simple scaffold]

Probably. No amount of evil looks has stopped ppl from trying to make it like EFT, I don't see how stalker2 would be different

I have been toying with how to make the shards of glass anomaly.

[analog birch]

Under the skills tab I can only adjust the exp multiplier, I was more or less wanting to increase how fast my character ran by adjusting the spped_modifier_increment.

[peak vessel]

Hi all. Is there a reference document? I am looking to modify auto-loot to include upgraded weapons and guns into the auto-disassemble. For example, here's current function to check if armor should be disassembled

function cond_armor_disassemble(obj)
    if config.disassemble_armor == disassemble_armor_options.all then
        return true
    end
    if config.disassemble_armor == disassemble_armor_options.with_usable_parts then
        local parts = item_parts.get_parts_con(obj, nil, true)
        for k, v in pairs(parts) do
            local is_recipe_material = zzz_craft_use_in_tooltip_mcm and is_not_empty(zzz_craft_use_in_tooltip_mcm.getCraftableItems(k))
            if (config.always_treat_recipe_part_as_usable and is_recipe_material) 
            or (v >= config.usable_armor_part_condition_treshold and IsItem("part", k)) then
                return true
            end
        end
    end
    return false
end

Now if I'd have a list of item properties and methods that'd be easy to achieve however I can't find anything in the pins about that. Where can I look those up?

Alternatively can someone jsut tell me if there's a method something like IsUpgraded(item)
Considering IsWeapon, IsStalker, IsOutfit and IsAmmo exists, I'd assume something like that should exist

Not really feeling like guessing name of a method

[random fulcrum]

obj:iterate_installed_upgrades(function)

your only choice

[peak vessel]

I assume returns 0 or null if none?

[random fulcrum]

you could do

has_upgrades = obj:iterate_installed_upgrades(
        function(upgr_sec)
            local section = SYS_GetParam(0, upgr_sec, "section")
            if section then return true
            return false
        end)

[summer stream]

question related to animations, if i move a singular bone in the animation that is related to wpn_silencer, can it break the animation? or not?

[peak vessel]

ty for solution/pointers

[random fulcrum]

as a general rule of thumb

always check inside _g.script, axr_main.script, and lua_help.script

in anomaly's files

lua_help has almost all of the methods exported from the engine

[fair canopy]

It won't break the animation but your mesh will act funny

If the bone doesn't animate it's best to just move the mesh

[summer stream]

its not animated

sooo i can just move it

right?

[fair canopy]

Yeah

[peak vessel]

Where do I find these? I can only find lua_help_ex.script in gamedata/scripts and it doesn't have much

Cuz it crashes so wanted to look more into it xd

[summer stream]

alright great

btw thanks for the 3dss, i ported the specter to the ar15 freedom and now it's playable

[fair canopy]

Np but that was already in a pack,

[random fulcrum]

anomaly\tools\db_unpacker.bat

it gets you all the vanilla .ltx and .script files included with anomaly

[peak vessel]

ty

[summer stream]

not really, looked into it, nothing about it

took model from m4 butcher, assigned it

and done

didn't know it was that simple