╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[remote hamlet]

I mean the only need for the cpp

is to send and recive data

which is working amazingly currently

[surreal gust]

You're doing it in a such slow way

[remote hamlet]

although I could do abit more in cpp

The reason its taking so long is because I am trying to learn how everything works

[surreal gust]

I'm no expert but wouldn't that be slow af

[surreal gust]

Ok

[remote hamlet]

I still don't know much about how to do alot of certain things

like spawning a mesh into the world

or disabling the ai of a npc

or even just rotating an npc

[surreal gust]

Okay.

[remote hamlet]

although I can move an npc

[lean dagger]

i mean its a massive hail mary to do MP this way and i personally have some reservations how feasible syncing everything is in such a way, but let the man cook id say

[surreal gust]

If you're gonna do true mp

Engine edits are the only way

[remote hamlet]

I'm trying to dig around in the games unpacked code to learn it all

[remote hamlet]

so far the way I am doing it seems very stable so far

[surreal gust]

You can look at anomaly's bitbucket to learn more about vanilla anomaly's engine

[lean dagger]

i mean, isnt the largest issue in stalker MP always desync? havent kept up to date with most MP mods

[surreal gust]

Xrmpe has their own netcode

They also use stuff from X-Ray OMP

[remote hamlet]

Making mp after you have a base for servers and clients

[surreal gust]

Such as the server hoster app

[remote hamlet]

is just figuring out what data to replicate and how to properly use the data

and then make it smooth

[lean dagger]

tbh i know jack shit about networking but that sounds a bit too simple to be honest. if it were that simple most it students wouldnt spontaneously bleed from all orfices when they have to do a networking task

[remote hamlet]

its mostly about trying to make it feel smooth which can be the hard part

for simple human movement

that can be easy

just tween the points from one to the other

but then you have to worry about it technically behind behind

because if the client recives the position of an npc

they can't just teleport the npc to that new location

because it looks jittery

and if you just smooth the position to it

then you will be seeing the npc in the past than what it should be

so your combining the movement delay and ping

[surreal gust]

Same, but I did experiment with MP maps, and even made some of my own

[remote hamlet]

which causes a large desync

[timber cedar]

It's far from the largest, but it's the first.

[remote hamlet]

however

this can somewhat be negated

by making it so when a npc or player starts moving in a direction

you send that direction to the other clients

and force the npc to move in the direction until the next packet is recived

and slightly tween the position to the recived position packets

which can smooth out the movement alot

[lean dagger]

how do you plan to sync ai between clients? like rotation and movment and actions arent the only things, theres quite a few behaviors to be synced, no?

[remote hamlet]

while also keeping it somewhat in sync

[remote hamlet]

Yeah thats gonna be require me to do alot of research

but I hope to find all the useful unique data and network that to the clients

but I need to research more about npcs before I can come up with a concrete plan

[lean dagger]

my first idea would be to host the actual game as the server, so you only have to send data to clients and sync the clients, instead of sending the enitrety of what alife is doing to one player, but again this is layman rambling

[remote hamlet]

I currently have it so the host boots up a client and server exe

and it will send only nesscary data in the current level

like npcs, storage, mutants, anomalies

Need to figure out how quest are handled in the future so I can do those

[limpid rose]

I’d take a look at XRMPE code to see how they handle a second actor

There’s bound to be some decent pointers in there

[timber cedar]

this is how most client/server models work yea, not really feasible for P2P services but just having a server do The Bulk™️ of the processing is the easiest way for syncing, issue is that's not how it's gonna be for adding multiplayer onto an already existing game like this without a bunch of rewrites and weird hackiness

[remote hamlet]

Its what I am doing
albiet I have the host be both a client and server

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[surreal gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255622159322189935/1258492634008129556/IMG_0055.gif

[sinful ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1061821071084503220/1265110440166293616/image.png?ex=66a05169&is=669effe9&hm=4c3d01954626eec5f44fb22b01b4dc12d7a5e0d55a541abab23fde6bbc7cbea9&

is there anyway to fix this bit where the arm does that?

actually lemme get a better pic you can’t really see it

[torpid badge]

dp-27 from where?

[sinful ridge]

i can’t even remember what mod it was off the top of my head 😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061821071084503220/1265111216448213032/image.png?ex=66a05222&is=669f00a2&hm=cc53dc73c2173f38e1f7c6f90a491f546e7110dc68b0383a184189da4577898d&

like you can see inside the arm

[remote hamlet]

did you disable or enable some mods recently?

looks like its unable to find the dialog

looking at the engine code it says its failing to get the data of an item

you would have to give me the full error log

this is the line of code it falls at

TEMPLATE_SPECIALIZATION
const typename ITEM_DATA* CSXML_IdToIndex::GetById(const shared_str& str_id, bool no_assert)
{
    T_INIT::InitXmlIdToIndex();

…        for (T_VECTOR::iterator it = m_pItemDataVector->begin(); m_pItemDataVector->end() != it; ++it, i++)
            Msg("[%d]=[%s]", i, *(*it).id);

        R_ASSERT3(no_assert, "item not found, id", *str_id);
        return NULL;
    }

    return &(*it);
}

its engine code

I read the error you sent and opened up the source code of the engine

it references file xml_str_id_loader.h line 114

does your mod add any items?

or reference an item in the dialog?

if your referencing an item or giving the player an item through the dialog you might have put the wrong id

You can also execute the unpack.dll to unpack the games scripts so you can read them

May want to make a copy of the game before you do that just in case though

looking at the code it seems who ever made the function was just copying the format of the other similar functions

so the first two inputs do litteraly nothing

searching the unpacked code is also a good way to know how the functions work if your unsure

but anyways

theres still the original issue

does it crash when you talk to him no matter what?

I have no idea what error that is

what ever you did it messed up the data in some tree shaped structure of data

[limpid rose]

This just happens sometimes during start up, you can just relaunch

I’ve only ever encountered it once while playing

[remote hamlet]

I'm gonna go crayz man

Can't find the function to disable a npcs ai or a way to disable an npcs thinking

there is one right?

[lean dagger]

maybe instead of disabling, make a new npc that has no ai and use that?

[remote hamlet]

But then I would have to do the same for npcs

I wanna beable to grab an npc on the host and send the npc type to the client

and just spawn it in and disable the ai and pupet it around

so it can be very dynamic

and automatic

along with potentially be compatible with modded npcs

[true lance]

Is there a player model? You can use idk if the player has an actual model or if it's just arms and legs

[remote hamlet]

Yeah the player has a whole third person model

but I was able to figure out how to disable the npc ai movement

and even set the look direction

[true lance]

Oh damn that's good

[remote hamlet]

although if you get too close to the npc they will force look at you still

[true lance]

Ah there might be a work around

[remote hamlet]

and the npc still teleports around when being set to the position even when staying still

[true lance]

Oh like in the video you sent?

[remote hamlet]

maybe theres another more percise function for teleporting npcs

[remote hamlet]

Yeah but its less jittery now that the npc is not trying to move

now its just something to do with the function I am using

I'm gonna make another video with the newer mod version

[true lance]

How will looting work? Like say 2 people try looting the same container

[remote hamlet]

I was thinking of making it so when you loot something it will send a message to the server and the server will verify if it has the item

if it does then it will do nothing

if it doesn;t then it will send a message to the client to delete it from their inventory

so it looks smooth when taking items out of a inventory

and you don't risk duplication *mostly

although preferably I would want to make it so when you take an item it gives you a fake item that does nothing and then when the server verifes it still has the item then it would send you a message telling you it received the item correctly

and then give the real item and delete the fake item

and if not then delete the fake item

which should have very little chance of duplication + it looks smooth

but its a little more difficult to implement

[true lance]

Sounds like it would go smooth what about connecting to the host?

Like how would it be done?

[remote hamlet]

Currently the ip is hard codded into the program but I'm gonna just make it so you type connect ip in the console of the program

and if a server is open with that ip it will connect

I think if you port forward and start the server program it will work

I haven't tested that

but I tested it with log me in Hamachi and it works

which doesn't require port forwarding

[true lance]

I swear hamachi hates me man I can never get it to work

[remote hamlet]

There we go

I got the npc looking around working

I semi got it to work before

but it broke the rest of the code because it was called wrong or something

I'm gonna make a video now of it

as long as everything works

[true lance]

How functional are the animations?

Like loading,aiming,eating ext

[remote hamlet]

non existent currently

the animations in the video were the npc ai acting of its own free will

while following the position of the player

but it should be possible to override an npcs animations

It works!

https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/ike761dBoM0TLrz4C/d1337CFilJVR?invite=cr-MSxFMUQsOTY1MzkwMyw

mostly

still janky because the position is acting weird

the look direction did freakout abit to the end though

should have been looking at the host and looking up and down

[true lance]

When moving on the client side does it feel jank or does it just look janky

[remote hamlet]

Its completly normal

its just the visual of the other clients is janky right now

just have to figure out a better set npc position function

I got an even better clip

(do note that the uzi the npc is holding is purely because the npc spawned with it and not because the client is holding it)

https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/ikeeTHHsXelnYdCeh/d1337IOC1E9I?invite=cr-MSw4RzMsOTY1MzkwMyw

[true lance]

The client is your laptop correct? Could you send a clip of the client side or na?

[remote hamlet]

It doesn't have medal so no

and its quite laggy as is

but its pov would just be me standing in the corner of the room jittering in place

[true lance]

Ah okay that's fine, this is probably far out but if you get it stable will you post a release date? Would really love to play gamma with my friends

[remote hamlet]

but once I disable npc physics the jittering should go away

[remote hamlet]

This is still very far from a actual coop experience

I heard theres also the other multiplayer mod releasing soon

but it has a weird background behind it

not sure about it at the moment

Although once I get the movement and animations stable I could have a basic mod where you can atleast move around with your friends

albeit they won't see the npcs you see

and inventories won't work and such

you would only beable to see eachother and shoot eachother

for the first version of it

and then I will try do to inventories and npcs

[true lance]

The one they talk about in the announcements?

[ionic zenith]

someone spreading misinformation about the scam again?

[true lance]

Hope not who is the person who made the "coop mod"

[remote hamlet]

They claim they are gonna release it "soon"

[ionic zenith]

what they claim is a scam

and you're falling for it

[remote hamlet]

I am staying netrual on it

[true lance]

Na it's like that one game on steam that was in development for years then they released it then shut down lol after getting millions

[remote hamlet]

might aswell look at it if it does do some sort of release

maybe hold off on downloading it though

watch others use it first

you never know

could be real could be fake could be unfun stuff

[random fulcrum]

dude is still trying to find ways to believe in the four times exposed known scammer and actual criminal

[true lance]

Where are they releasing it on? Their own website?

[remote hamlet]

Dunno

[remote hamlet]

I don't believe in them

Honestly I lean more towards them being bad

but I atleast want to hear their side of a story

more in the way you would want to hear the defense in court

[true lance]

This is what I just found about it rq

[remote hamlet]

so you can get all the info before decinding the verdict

[ionic zenith]

@hardy hound bring forth the evidence

[ionic zenith]

actually, go read it
#🇪🇸-general-spa message

[random fulcrum]

it's been linked already here

but it's in russian and still "not his side of the story"

like what the fuck

do you actually need to read the "i'm actually innocent"

he has said a lot of times that already

together with "it actually works, this is another player"

[remote hamlet]

You never know

[ionic zenith]

[remote hamlet]

I do need to reiterate none of this means I take his side or think he isn't a scammer

[ionic zenith]

yet you're still rambling like an attorney

[summer girder]

Scams STALKER players several times over
What if this time is different
Is that what's implied here?

[remote hamlet]

and I already said I lean to him being one

but you never know what might come up on their side

[random fulcrum]

nah it's bait i'm calling it

i bit tho, i must concede

[ionic zenith]

could be an associate
you never know

[remote hamlet]

What could be causing the jitteriness with teleporting of the npc

you think its the npc physics?

in this clip #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

The npc is teleported to its where its currently standing

unless

its trying to move because it sees it self as an obstacle?

or does the physics hate being teleported in the same place that much

[summer girder]

Tell ya what
IF Monokit ever comes out with a working prototype which isn't just his clips
But a working, FREE co-op multiplayer experience in an open beta phase, where players can verify "Yep that's my friend, he's T-bagging Wolf while standing on him while I'm taking tasks from him"

We might think it's a real project

[remote hamlet]

Still wouldn't discount all his previous actions

And from what he said he doesn't want to open source it on release so its abit scary too

running a program that you don't know what it'll do behind the scenes

[random fulcrum]

yeah it tries to move away from its previous position

could try having a delay between the release and the next spawn

[remote hamlet]

no but like

its a teleport function

its not respawning the npc

[random fulcrum]

idk then try another spot

[remote hamlet]

[slow bolt]

link pls

[remote hamlet]

but its going to where the other player is

[true lance]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1e96fbn/a_quick_warning_for_those_enthused_about_the/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[remote hamlet]

what even is INC

[random fulcrum]

a guy that made an ui mod

[remote hamlet]

ooh

[random fulcrum]

the most popular one even

[remote hamlet]

I'm kinda surprised how well the set_sight function worked

[golden cedar]

Guys how can I fix silencer position on weapon icon in weapon slot?

[remote hamlet]

I thought npcs would have a heavy clamp

[surreal gust]

le scam

post this on other stalker servers if you can

including the official one

[true lance]

I just did I put it on the main and another sub stalker discord

[surreal gust]

Ok

There are way more servers than just 3

[true lance]

Have you tried getting help with your mod since your actually trying to make a working one I'm sure ppl would be more than happy to help?

[true lance]

I'm tired It's 5 am

[surreal gust]

Most of the ones that I'm in have private invite links

Ok

[fair canopy]

Why post it on a throw away

[true lance]

?

[wild swallow]

btw. anyone knows what engine/branch/whatever stalker belarus runs on?

is it base xray, monolith, something new?

they have avtually a working coop

[gray marlin]

X-Ray OMP.

[slow bolt]

It aint even xray

It's obvious when you look at the gameplay

Or they changed pretty much everything, as ai doesn't even look like xray

[lean dagger]

it kinda has a similar look to arma / dayz?

[slow bolt]

Nah

Or, maybe

Ai would just stand and plink

[slow bolt]

And weapons fire didn't even look like xray

[lean dagger]

i mean the character models and furniture and all that

[slow bolt]

Yeah that doesn't even look like stalker, so

Looks like a shitty imitation

Which is how the game felt like

[lean dagger]

supposedly it is on xray tho? i have seen people talking about gamedata being finally decrypted or something? when discussing the transaltion

the main menu is also def stalker. or they put in all the effort to recreate the ui, wich would be weird

idk

weird project

[slow bolt]

Supposedly it is

but the game feels completely different. More like an imitation of Xray

[rapid cargo]

yo guys, ingame stats editor in debug mode works?

[random fulcrum]

sometimes

[rapid cargo]

i actually unpaked configs but editor cant save anything

and removed read only flag from files

[random fulcrum]

bro didn't want to read "sometimes"

[rapid cargo]

)

[surreal gust]

le editor doesn't work de all times

[rapid cargo]

sadly(

how i can check which mod overrides config that i need to edit manually, cuz some stats dont changes with default gamedata configs

[random fulcrum]

dltx it

[rapid cargo]

dltx?

[hot token]

Overriding ltx strings i suppose

[rapid cargo]

ok , ty

[random fulcrum]

read the modding book for more info

[undone lily]

In such a state ? If it's not to steal some information from you, I don't know what that is

[slow bolt]

only so much you can do with stolen XR OMP code when you have no idea how it works

[upper cloak]

hey what does accuracy, flatness and handling mean exactly?

[vernal epoch]

!whatthegundoin

[queen pine]

@upper cloak
Handling: Reduces the inaccuracy penalty from shooting while moving, shooting continuously, or shooting while standing. Results in a generally tighter grouping of bullets across all of those situations.
Reliability: reduces rate of overall gun condition decrease
Accuracy: affects first-shot accuracy, and generally lowers spread for shots - high accuracy makes first shots go exactly where the crosshair points
Flatness: decreases bullet drop/arc (rarely useful in GAMMA), does not impact bullet damage

[upper cloak]

why is flatness not very useful?

[slow bolt]

You are asking in a completely wrong channel

go to #╓☢stalker-chat

[upper cloak]

oh sorry

[unreal leaf]

isnt network syncing like one players position like, the easiest part of multiplayer? I would imagine syncing physics, NPCs and the general game loop with quest logic and Alife would be so so much harder.

I am kinda out of the loop but I have seen people showcasing network sync player positions for yyears at this point, no ones ever shown anything more.

[random fulcrum]

because everyone wants to believe they're the scene's savior

but noone wants to speak about the other 99.9% of the process

which is also because nobody has gone that far

the next guy in the line will say "i'm going all in on this multiplayer thing i'm making gamma coop finally"

a couple of weeks later and they won't ever mention multiplayer again

[unreal leaf]

haha

I cant imagine gamma ever being multiplayer compatible, even if Anomaly gets multiplayer. So many systems on top of the base game that have never been designed with multiple players in mind

[vernal epoch]

pretty much how you can tell when its a pipe dream or not

Someone going: Anomaly MP is my plan
might be a person with a plan.
Someone going: Gamma MP is my plan
"yea ok, I want a dragon for christmas"

[random fulcrum]

nah but i mean in general it's like redotix said

it's always just position sync

nothing after that ever comes out

[vernal epoch]

yup

[random fulcrum]

because after people realize how piss easy doing that is they get cocky and then are faced with the wall that is scripting

and ai

and physics

[celest forge]

Just for anomaly, counting the scams

It's been what

[random fulcrum]

and actual player data

basic shit like health even

[celest forge]

Like 6 people

With the coop pipedream

[random fulcrum]

maybe a handful more

but they all follow the same development pipeline

"i'm going to save anomaly"
"this shit is too easy look how i've synced movement"

multiplayer is never mentioned again from the user

[celest forge]

Pretty much yeah

[unreal leaf]

maybe I can do it

[celest forge]

Or maybe I can!

[unreal leaf]

I did like, one exe edit already, how hard can it be

[celest forge]

(Don't know a single thing about coding)

[unreal leaf]

Networking makes me want to blow my head off tbh

[spiral stone]

Does anyone know how to fix the "helicopter sound" that boars make during certain animations? Even with new sounds I do hear it sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT3Gl3djX0s

[surreal gust]

kekray

[unreal leaf]

all I am hearing is footsteps tbh

[spiral stone]

towards the end of the video when the boar runs away your hear like 4 rapid steps

its inconsistent but its there

[random fulcrum]

what is bro even complaining about lmfao

[celest forge]

I'm assuming it's the rapid spamming of the sounds

But those arent vanilla sounds i'm pretty sure

[fair inlet]

by any chance have you checked if this bug exists in original games?

[random fulcrum]

crazy that the guy noticed with the boar considering it happens with every thing that produces footstep sounds

when they slow turn

if he's complaining about what i think he's complaining about

[spiral stone]

Im pretty sure its in base anomaly at least since I have seen some mods on moddb mentioning fixing "boar helicopter sounds" im about to post another with an injured boar but its still uploading

@fair inlet I guess what I initially posted wasn't the "helicopter sound" and this is maybe it? or maybe just an extreme example? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbuKsp1SV4Y

[remote hamlet]

I have been asking around in several discord and got a little help with things

and before I knew the whole situation around monokit I tried asking for some help from him but he just said "Why would I tell you that?"

perhaps I should try talking to a modder who works with npcs

Because once I learn how the npc animations work and how to properly disable the ai aswell as fix the weird thing with the npc trying to teleport around it self then I would have a pretty smooth and stable replicated player movement

[fair inlet]

yeah it's mostly noticeable with limping animation. definitely a thing in anomaly, but i don't recall it in original games

[spiral stone]

ah okay, its a small thing so its fine considering most people choose to obliterate boars as fast as possible anyway

[pearl delta]

How does one start making mods for Anomaly?

[remote hamlet]

Heres a basic introduction https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/scripting/codebase_introduction.html

[remote hamlet]

do you know lua?

Anomaly uses that as its scripting language

but along with the modding book you can also open the unpack dll to unpack the games scripts and look at them to get some basic understanding of how things work and to learn all the functions for stuff

[surreal gust]

"Wetting our hands" 💀

[remote hamlet]

fixed it so now the link is the introduction

[pearl delta]

Some. I messed with something similar for Vermintide 2

I now realize how spoiled I was when using creation engine..... god curse me.

[simple scaffold]

That was a system designed to be modded. This game hacked over and over to be moddable

[surreal gust]

should i port les physics map from build 1844?

or other maps from different builds

[random fulcrum]

port old versions of retail maps

like the swampy cordon

place them east of the river and call it the pripyat river anomaly

[surreal gust]

i was thinking like porting them to be explored in anomaly

I don't think its geometry is going to fit well for the gameplay

[feral umbra]

hey, how are you guys doing? So how do i change the sound of a certain gun, doing some changes in this sector its enough or i neeed to do something else ?

[misty mulch]

you can do a lot of shit purely with config changes and learning DLTX without needing to learn Lua, but you will always face hard limits

for example basically every mod i've ever made is functionally a DLTX based config edit

[remote hamlet]

Holly crap things are looking good now https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/iksFDCtk1a9sSO34b/d1337sO5PdZC?invite=cr-MSxQWXYsOTY1MzkwMyw

Is gametime 1/1000?

average time between reading each packet is roughly 20 gametime

with each packet being sent on update

[true lance]

how long does it take some one to make a basic mod like say a single gun mod?

[celest forge]

Depends on a ton of factors

[true lance]

say the gun has its own ammo,scopes and animations

[true lance]

should i get a clean install of updated anomaly for modding?

[celest forge]

If you want it to be compatible with vanilla anomaly yeah

If it's just for GAMMA then it's fine with GAMMA

[true lance]

so i can just use my gamma install?

[celest forge]

If you're doing it for gamma, yeah

Guns aren't much different between gamma and anomaly except for some stats and the fact that you don't have to worry about trader profiles

[true lance]

how do i make models the video im watching is just editing already made weapons? i want to make a complete new one

[random fulcrum]

learn blender

[true lance]

ya you know what modding aint for every one ill just wait for someone to make the gun i want lol

[celest forge]

What gun you want

[true lance]

M82 Barret sniper

i dont know if any mods already made one since its not really russian

[celest forge]

That's a base Anomaly weapon

[true lance]

bru what ive nerver seen it?

[hardy hound]

theres a blacklist of most vanilla weapons in the modpack, which makes them not drop from npcs (they drop in vanilla anomaly tho)

[celest forge]

Doesn't drop in gamma

But it's there

[true lance]

ya see i want it for gamma tho but it is what it is

[hardy hound]

you could probably add it quickly

search for the most likely .ltx file that has the weapon blacklisted, remove the line and should be good

[celest forge]

@true lance put this in MO2

[true lance]

its flagged with an x is that bad?

[celest forge]

wdym

[hardy hound]

how did you install it? just click on 'Install mod' button on MO2, select the zip and then OK and sohuld be fine

[true lance]

i extracted it then put it in the mo2 files manually

[hardy hound]

no need lol, mo2 can install zip files normally

[true lance]

thought it was archives only

okay no more x it fixed

[bronze harness]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/8bQJaw

If someone want to making this gun mod just dm me

[pulsar flame]

Hey guys, anyone know how to access the player's current adrenaline level from .script files?

[random fulcrum]

???

[pulsar flame]

Remember .script files?

like this one?

I'm just trying to get the player's current adrenaline level so I can use it in a mod I'm making

[fair canopy]

Etapomom doesn't know anything about scripts. You gotta remind them

[fair canopy]

I could give it a go

[bronze harness]

Okay i will sent u dm whole package

[pulsar flame]

I don't know much about them either lol

just started working with them recently

as well as DLTX

well really

only just recently started making my own small mods

first I made a mod that adjusts the amount of uses consumables have

it's based off of the "More Food From Denro - Full Remaster" mod

the mod I'm working on now is an adjustment and add-on to the Cold System 0.6 mod

I've added more items that affect the player's cold level

as well as a reworked cooling formula

for more realism

I've also adjusted the UI accordingly to display some extra information

[surreal gust]

Yes

[young hemlock]

Hi I wanna make a script for my task (Marker on Dushman, kill him and come back to Stribog) What file do I make?

[pulsar flame]

Hey guys, just wanted to know, how do I get the player's current adrenaline level from a script file?

[radiant nexus]

As i got my hands on some neat audio files i would like to create a small mod.

Does anyone knows if i can just throw them in there or if i need to add them to some config?

[radiant nexus]

Ok they need to be added in some config too to work.

Anyone knows where to find this file?

[surreal gust]

Hemisphere quality 4

Only took an hour or two to compile the level

[halcyon bluff]

Supposedly he's just released an open beta

[surreal gust]

read the links about monokit

he pays his devs almost nothing

plus the exes are most likely a virus that'll steal your cc info

or worse

[surreal gust]

Doesn't matter due to his past

[severe coyote]

I'm downloading anomaly and the monokit mod right now, I'll try to run it locally

I’ll ask in advance, is it possible to run two copies of anomaly at the same time?

[surreal gust]

Check monokits exes before running via virustotal

[severe coyote]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/d6543e71fe2b5cac91dcb6629392638ab7eb93261495d6af888f8d13e1cfc262/detection

Goodbye, I'm launching.
Do not forget me

[severe coyote]

it works

[summer girder]

Ye lul

[surreal gust]

Even if it works, I would never trust him due to his past.

Such as stealing other people's assets and claiming it as HIS

Scamming people for years

What else more is there to add?

[lament jolt]

My breath when i smoke

my lungs

[severe coyote]

for me his past is not important if he makes a working multiplayer mod for the anomaly and releases it for free

[surreal gust]

I don't care

Scammers gonna scam

[lament jolt]

if it works. Let's play?

[severe coyote]

it's pretty buggy

[surreal gust]

That doesn't change the fact that he's a fucking horrible person.

[severe coyote]

I would wait for the release version

[surreal gust]

Yeah, cause he pays his devs almost nothing, or he copy and pasted the code from X-Ray OMP

All of the assets that he uses are FREE

And claiming it as HIS

[severe coyote]

if he's a terrible person it doesn't change the fact that I'll still play his mod

[surreal gust]

🤯

ok, get scammed noob

[lament jolt]

Notice. Many developpers takes other people source code. And uses it like they write it as own. But never tell you what they did.
But who tells hi's claiming other projects src as own? where?
Interesting i want to know more.

[severe coyote]

how will I be scammed if I don't pay anything?

[surreal gust]

I'll send 3 links here

They're in the Z language, so ya gotta translate it.

https://vk.com/@mp_stalker_community-aleksei-bin-igraem-po-krupnomu

https://vk.com/@mp_stalker_community-aleksei-bin-i-ego-vorovstvo

https://m.vk.com/@mp_stalker_community-aleksei-bin-ili-shema-monetizacii-ltltrad-multiplayer

[lament jolt]

I know only one z language->
movie: war z worlds

[surreal gust]

Alexei Bin is monokit himself

le scammer

[lament jolt]

anyway i will check that they released. No hope without dream

[surreal gust]

This was from their razomaly scam

This isn't his first 'project'

He had other servers where he scammed people

"If you don't donate me, I'll cancel the project," or "donate me 200$ for gunslinger in anomaly"

He also had a 200$ beta access

[severe coyote]

even if he is a scammer, I will still play with this mod if he completes it to a playable state
I personally don't pay anything

[surreal gust]

Typical Z behaviour

[lament jolt]

Anyway if not happens, we have source at least basic lua 🙂

[severe coyote]

yes

[surreal gust]

He'll never release the code because it's already free.

Anomaly 1.5.2 has almost all of its MP code removed

You can use X-Ray OMP MP code, and not be a dickhead like monokit

[lament jolt]

but how he did the mp instead of using x-ray omp/ or other like behaviours?

[rough delta]

Oh, so you are a russophobe?

[surreal gust]

I'm not

I love saying Z

I'm not like yarkov, bro

[ionic zenith]

alo

[rough delta]

Huh

[surreal gust]

He literally sent death threats

[surreal gust]

we cool, aight?

[ionic zenith]

No
don't bring current conflict into this

[surreal gust]

The fact is

He just copy and pasted code from x-ray omp

Architecture doesn't matter

Yet he claims he's not using X-Ray OMP, but in his razomaly scam he did say he's using X-Ray OMP

[surreal gust]

[ionic zenith]

like seriously
Stop with the "typical Z behaviour" or "Z language"

[surreal gust]

Okay

[surreal gust]

That guy sent death threats to russians in moddb

And he only got a warning from moddb

Bias is real

[glad mirage]

moddb is a weird place

[rough delta]

I don't care about all of this shit btw

[surreal gust]

Ok

[rough delta]

(:

[fickle cedar]

Define Z behavior

[summer girder]

Oi

[fickle cedar]

Did the Russians come here and start insulting someone? Or just promoted the war propaganda as the ACTUAL Z propagandists?@surreal gust

[ionic zenith]

!lock

[queen pine]

✅ Locked down ╟🖇mods-making-discussion

[ionic zenith]

Ok, since this getting out of hand.
Anyone who mentions RADmp again will get muted.
The project is a know scam, its mentioned in #📢announcements, and anyone asking in here about it just keeps putting fuel into the discussion that gets out of control quickly.
so stop it.

Additional, any political comments like "Z behaviour" and then "elaborate on that" just to gaslight the person even more, will get you muted.

Now back to the topic of "how to mod xyz"

!unlock

[queen pine]

✅ Unlocked ╟🖇mods-making-discussion.

[surreal gust]

What, no? Yarkov is a person from Ukraine, and he kinda got a little angry, so he decided to insult Russians and send them death threats.

*in moddb.

Make a new model

Export it as .ogf

[glad mirage]

i am having trouble with an icon in dx9

its originally an icon with the size of 100x50

[fickle cedar]

Again

Does this imply the actual mod creator?

[ionic zenith]

[surreal gust]

What mod creator???

[glad mirage]

i tried resizing the icon to 128x64, reformatted the icon without mipmaps and its still misaligned

[fickle cedar]

You do know Yarkov isn't the Anomaly Togheter creator no?

[surreal gust]

Tf?

He's there too?

[fickle cedar]

No

The actual mod creator is Monokit, which is a guy from Russia

What he has to do with Yarkov?

[surreal gust]

That's what I said earlier

[fickle cedar]

.

[ionic zenith]

Ok
you either take this topic to DM's, or im muting you both

[fickle cedar]

.

[surreal gust]

Can't stop when he pings me 30949 times a day, but ok

[fickle cedar]

Did I ping you multiple times?

[tidal elbow]

They're lucky, I would have muted them at the first message after the unlock

Reading anomaly is strong

[fickle cedar]

You just generalized a person for saying they would still play

That's what I wanna understand what is the Z type behavior

[surreal gust]

what have i gotten myself into

just go on my dms

[fickle cedar]

Ok

[lament jolt]

who's that?

[wild swallow]

you do know the block button exists?
if a user annoys you with shit, block him

[surreal gust]

He wasn't that annoying, so I had no reason to

[fickle cedar]

Some random dude that threw a fit

And threatened people on moddb

[lament jolt]

oh it's sad. Why peoples do that without any reasons

[surreal gust]

After that, he left most servers and dissappeared

He even made a cover-up story

[cobalt tangle]

Is there a mod that makes it so stalkers take damage/die if they walk in anomalies? I find it ridiculous that they can just walk through all of them unharmed

[vernal epoch]

trust me, you'll prefer it on as opposed to stalkers walking directly into anomalies and dying all the time

[cobalt tangle]

I don't care about losing the loot, I'm playing for "realism"

[fair canopy]

That "realism" will go flying out the door the moment you see a full squad commit ritual suicide by walking into an anomaly

There is a mod for that, but the ai isn't programmed to recognize and avoid anomalies

[ionic zenith]

It avoids static anomalies, but not dynamic ones iirc

[vernal epoch]

Yea, I didnt say anything about loot fam. I said you'll be watching people walking directly into anomalies and dying

[cobalt tangle]

Ahh boring, aight thanks

[misty mulch]

the mod does exist, search on moddb for npcs die in anomalies or sthing like that

but what they said

[pulsar flame]

So does anyone know how to get the adrenaline level of the player from a .script file?

[random fulcrum]

what the fuck is the adrenaline level

[misty mulch]

that's not a thing in the game, which is why no one knows how to get it

[undone lily]

there's "combat heat" from voiced actor scripts, but that's it

[radiant nexus]

I am loosing my mind guys. I want to merge JSRS and DarkAudioSignal together (+ a few handpicked audiofiles from other games aswell) to have more bullet impact and flyby sounds. (For flyby i already figured it out)

BUT i cant find any reference where to define those new files.

I´ve searched (via workplace) whole Gamma und Anomaly Files (including db files) for "metall03gr" but i cant find anything

By any chance, does anyone has a clue?!

in need this

If you ask why would i do this? I like to shit my pants in ironmode and getting shot at definitly adds to it 😄

[fair inlet]

gamemtl.xr

[misty mulch]

hey, trying to work with DXML to alter the text inside a few elements. Is there a way to turn this snippet into a function?

local res = xml_obj:query("string[id=STRING_ID] > text")
    if res[1] then
        local el = res[1]
        local el_text = xml_obj:getText(el)
            if el_text then
            -- Set new text
                xml_obj:setText(el, NEW_STRING)
            end
    end

Trying to slam it all into a function change_xml_text(STRING_ID, NEW_STRING) gives me an error
LUA error: ... [...] attempt to index global 'xml_obj' (a nil value)

keeping it as-is without trying to get fancy works

[kindred tiger]

You'd have to hand over the xml_obj as a parameter to the function so it can access those instance-related functions.

[misty mulch]

ty for giving me a lot to google search about

(genuinely)

[kindred tiger]

My wording is sometimes poor.
It should suffice to declare the function in this case like this: function change_xml_text(xml_obj, string_id, new_string)

[misty mulch]

ah. so pass the xml_obj itself to the function

[kindred tiger]

yes

[misty mulch]

thanks, i'll give that a shot

now erroring out attempt to call method 'query' (a nil value)

[kindred tiger]

How are you calling the function? The query method should be indexable.

[fair inlet]

https://github.com/themrdemonized/xray-monolith/blob/all-in-one-vs2022-wpo/gamedata/gamedata/materials/material_pairs.ltx

[misty mulch]

ok, I was calling it as change_xml_text(stringID, newtext), but then changed to change_xml_text(xml_obj, stringID, newtext) and now it doesn't crash out

it doesn't work, but it also doesn't crash

probably something to do with the formatting of "string[id=STRING_ID] > text"

[kindred tiger]

ah, right!
You need to change that to string.format("string[id=%s] > text", stringID)

[radiant nexus]

Thats look promising! Thanks for pointing out. Now i only need to figure out on how to decompile .xr files

[fair inlet]

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message
did you find where flybys config is btw? I couldn't find it

[radiant nexus]

yes /weapon/base.xlt

hold on

Gamma\mods\67- JSRS - Solarint\gamedata\configs\items\weapons

base.ltx

-> Line 194 "whine_sounds ="

Thats from JSRS of course

[misty mulch]

working! thanks for your help!

[radiant nexus]

@fair inlet by any chance - do you know how to open/decompile .xr files?

With google its not clear to me tbh

[fair inlet]

You don't need to, I guess
I linked you both decompiled archive for reference and documentation on how to edit materials

[kindred tiger]

You're welcome. I can highly recommend the Lua documentation: https://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html
It's really helpful and not written as dry as others.

[radiant nexus]

Oh my, how did i miss this one - i was just focused on your question.

Wow, thank you very much!!!

[lament jolt]

it

really buggy as on his channel says.

but actually works. Crash over crash. I don't know which source code he takes which causes crashes so often

[fair inlet]

feel free to ask, I'm interested in replacing these sounds too.
editing existing materials might be troublesome, I've done mostly new materials

[radiant nexus]

So what is your plan then? Maybe connect and build something together?!

[fair inlet]

if you're adding new sounds you can DM me, I can try doing the configs

[radiant nexus]

will do!

[surreal gust]

i'm saying that it doesn't matter, because he was talking shit on me for exposing his scams in his server

then he grabs his nerdy glasses and pretends to know what he's talking about

just because the engine is 32 bit doesn't mean you can't copy and paste the code

his videos look like scripted af

that movement can be replicated by bots

[lament jolt]

In case, players models almost like bots npcs. Just under controll of player in full.

[surreal gust]

if he was using his mp code

there wouldn't be a "ping" issue

it's very clear he doesn't have any idea how networking works

he straight up thought he could use x-ray omp MP code and think he would get away

[high mica]

Guys does anyone know how to add my songs to the radio on the mercenary's base? it has radio on 2nd flore and i wanna add my music in it

[vernal epoch]

!radio

[queen pine]

@high mica Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[tawny stream]

That's a poor basis to build a network application on.

[surreal gust]

I'm talking about monokit's bullshit

[candid vector]

@surreal gust (justsilverguy) has been muted for 3 hours for reason: I literally warned you today, no more discussions about radmp scam

[ionic zenith]

Focus on other things, than just going ballistic in here, then saying something regrettable which then leads to an out of control discussion.
Focus on modmaking, not witch hunting.

[radiant nexus]

So Oleh and me are working on merging (+adding to) JSRS and DarkSignal -> concerning ImpactSounds and FlybySounds

(this is jus some "proof of concept" done in fl studio)

^^

[regal bolt]

Hello, there, I want to add soc ambient music to gamma's ost, anyway on how I can do that?

[celest forge]

@naive snow Hey man, do you remember what you did for Bert with the C96 model, where you unfucked it?

You too?

Dap me up

[naive snow]

Yeah the normal stuff, what about it?

[celest forge]

How do you do that

[naive snow]

Combination of crease edges and face weighted normals. You can look it up online

You basically crease up hard edges to keep em sharp

Let the rest as face weighted

[celest forge]

Aight

Thx boss

[young hemlock]

hi

I want to make a task, where you talk to a specific story NPC and kill a specific target

a bounty quest

[pulsar flame]

The thing you get when you drink energy drinks or use epenephrine

Is there another name for that or…?

[fair canopy]

the energy buff?

[remote hamlet]

Does anyone know a person who knows alot about npcs?

[normal urchin]

hey all, what would be the proper callback for when the inventory is closed? or is it a little more complicated than a simple callback

[young hemlock]

HELP

[normal urchin]

im pretty new to modding myself so I for one cant help you much, but I figure this would be the place to start if you havent checked it out yet https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/quests/task_guide.html

[dapper hull]

Hey everyone i'm looking at some medical item changes. does anyone know how to change the rad resist back to Msv like in vanilla Anomaly instead of % based?

[summer girder]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1161433800803360808 Check out how this mod does it

[dapper hull]

Wow thanks! That will help and looks like a really good mod actually.

[regal bolt]

anoyone can give a tip on this?

[spiral stone]

I think there is a mod in the modpack already that adds more ambient music, having a look into its files and learning from there would be my best bet

[spiral stone]

Also im assuming those files will be ltx/config files, if so, then i would also recommend looking into using DLTX. That way you mod won't conflict with existing similar mods and it will be very compatible

[regal bolt]

Thanks for the heads up

[hollow sparrow]

Any idea if it would be possible to make magnified scopes unusable when using NVGs or if there is an already existing mod that does this?

[fair canopy]

Pretty sure there's a setting in mcmc for that

[hollow sparrow]

All I could find was one that just temporarily turns it off when aiming any gun.

[fair canopy]

Pretty sure no one cares enough about that level of realism to make the change to beefs nvgs

[hollow sparrow]

That's true... 😦

[surreal gust]

July 25th build of "Nova Bijeljina."

sorry for shitty quality, i had to compress the fuck out of it

[fair canopy]

Iirc not even tarkov cares that much

[regal bolt]

Hi people, rain sound is kinda low, anyway on how to increase it?

[celest forge]

Programming language

[surreal gust]

Programming language that's used by the engine

Into .CPP files

[flint pike]

Ist there a mod for Gamma to interact with the envirorment? Like sitting down by the fire, playing a instroment, eat and drink? Just like the npc does.

[celest forge]

Theres one for playing guitar

[flint pike]

ah ok im sure its on the discord right?

[unreal leaf]

but we could do this

It shouldnt be too hard to blur the 3DSS shader when nvgs are active

its an idea I really like because NVG scopes are kind of useless outwise

[spiral stone]

funny you say that, this released 3 days ago, i haven't tried it myself though https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/modded-exes-gestures-10

[celest forge]

Oh neat

[lilac idol]

would be neat if you guys made it like in ground branch

you could add nvg kits for scopes like the rmr kits we already have

[fair canopy]

That takes work

[true lance]

how would 2 people mod the same files in sync? like a group project

[lilac idol]

yeah it was only a suggestion, a really long term one

[fair canopy]

github

[flint pike]

ha lucky me ty for this ^^

[tawny stream]

Definitely. Version control is a must.

[torpid badge]

is there a guide here on making fomod installer?

[simple scaffold]

On the modding book

[torpid badge]

found it, Thanks

[young hemlock]

Hey do I need to add <actor_dialog>dm_ordered_task_dialog</actor_dialog> and <actor_dialog>dm_ordered_task_completed_dialog</actor_dialog> to stribog, for my custom task

[fathom wagon]

I've been away from modding for so long, it just reared its ugly head right now. I have been trying to diagnose an issue with my pseudo-New Vegas damage system experiment, only to notice that at the very end, I was assigning the new damage to shit.damage not shit.power.

All while I've been using shit.power correctly before that

[slow bolt]

Yes

Check recent published mods

[wild haven]

how do I fix this?

Mod: RWAP

[slow bolt]

!support

[queen pine]

@wild haven If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[regal bolt]

looking for HD models mod for UGP gamma. there is any recommended mod?

[fair canopy]

Models for what?

[slow bolt]

This is not the place to ask for mods. Go to #🤖bot-commands and type !hdmodels

[undone rock]

does anyone know how to fix this?

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : xml_doc.NavigateToNode(path,index)
[error]Function : CUIXmlInit::InitWindow
[error]File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrGame\ui\UIXmlInit.cpp
[error]Line : 80
[error]Description : XML node not found
[error]Argument 0 : wpn_crosshair_g28
[error]Argument 1 : ui\scopes_16.xml

stack trace:

[misty mulch]

!support

[queen pine]

@undone rock If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[misty mulch]

this is for discussions on how to make your own mods

[unreal leaf]

I love how people dont even bother reading the channel name past the first word anymore

like.. isnt it a little embarrasing at this point? It surely feels insulting to the people that run and moderate the server.

[slow bolt]

3 times today

[unreal leaf]

Not to mention back to back

cant even read the last message in the channel

[fair canopy]

No thoughts no embarrassment

[winter mist]

Really hope there will be a mod that implements the COD advance warfare and Infinite warfare models in Anomaly

[wary scroll]

Hey
I wanted to know what's the best tutorial for making normal map, bump map and etc
Maybe for gimp Photoshop or anything which can make things

[flint pike]

thanks again, it work just fine and is exactly what i was looking for ^^

[fair canopy]

theres a few you can look up on youtube

[wary scroll]

Hey
I made some and I have no idea if they're good or bad
Can you help me please?
I don't know how much of them I need or how stalker need them to work

It's all ao,refect,displac,diffu,normal,bump and gloss
But I have no idea for example how to mix them
Like when I open other bump files
I can see two of them
One at texture and other one at alpha

If they are not correct to stalker standards, then please explain it a little

[surreal gust]

le xray doesn't support ao, refect, displac, and gloss maps

even if you mix them, i doubt they'd look good

xray only supports diffuse color, bump maps, and normal maps

[wary scroll]

in that case it could be easier
but i saw more than three in game files and also i don't understand this

[lofty island]

how do i add that side aim with laser on a weapon?

[wary scroll]

Anyways I just need to know this at first step
Like how they added color and alpha together
It's strange
And at the second step what is thm file and how to open

[surreal gust]

that's a bump#

bump# is a heightmap for textures

stalker supported POM since clear sky (2008)

to create a bump#

you need a normal bump map

and sdk or a tool that can create it for you

there are tutorials online

[wary scroll]

I use Photoshop or crazy bump

[surreal gust]

that'll work too

ya just need to invert the channels to get the colors of a normal bump map

i think you can use a normal map and convert it to a bump map

[wary scroll]

So basically I need bumps in different variants by doing invert right ?

[surreal gust]

kind of

but you do have to invert channels if you're using normal maps

keep in mind that xray also supports normal maps and can be used alongside bump maps

[wary scroll]

Got it
So for adding them together like above
What should I do ?
Do you know any tutorials for this ?
I really searched but can't find something to be like this

[surreal gust]

i said that there are tutorials online

i don't fuck around with textures

[wary scroll]

Alright
Just one more question and I leave you in peace
What is thm files ?

[surreal gust]

.thm files are used for textures to give them light information or similar

they're automatically generated with a tool that can do it or with the sdk

without them, textures will either have crazy gloss over them

or stretched as fuck

[wary scroll]

alright maybe i don't touch them

and i think i did it somehow

i hope someone explain this one for me and i down

[surreal gust]

Keep in mind that everytime you update the texture, ya gotta replace the .thm file with a new one.

le progress

[ruby dust]

is it possible to make a variable crouch mod? like instead of just pressing CTRL, i could hold it and scroll up and down to adjust how much i want to crouch

like the adjustable lean from eft or ron

[potent flare]

Мододелы хелпаните плз в блендере как установить X ray аддон есть инструкция ????

вроде установил а огф открыть не могу

[slow bolt]

В modding book все есть

[hot token]

Я ж тебе кидал ссылку

Там описано как ставить аддон и настроить. Файл - импортировать - плагином импортируешь ОГФ

[tight leaf]

@slow bolt sry for the ping, but today I found your Return Menu Music mod, that adds music once you hit escape. And I have been looking for something like this for a while now.

I absolutely love it so far, but it would be even cooler if it would include/overwrite the regular main-menu.
Apparently the regular main-menu-music only plays after startup and and not after returning to it (for example after an Ironman death).
And it also uses the music-volume while your mod uses the SFX-volume.

I also guess it would be hard/impossible to also include loading screens in your mod?

Anyway thx a lot for creating this mod, as it already makes the game a lot more fun for me ❤️

[potent flare]

Я тупой

[slow bolt]

Well its a simple script that plays music intended for main menu when you enter the menu after loading the game

Doing more would be too much for that mod

As for music volume - yeah, i got that reported. dont think its possible

[tight leaf]

No worries still love it a lot 🫡

[jolly vault]

wo

[slow bolt]

"Apparently the regular main-menu-music only plays after startup and and not after returning to it (for example after an Ironman death)."can you elaborate?

Its supposed to play if you hit escape

aka open the menu

Its what the callback i use does

If it doesnt play after death. Oh yeah it doesnt because the game closes i think. Goes to actual main menu

[tight leaf]

Exactly, I was talking about the stock GAMMA music in the actual main menu

So not an issue of your mod, but something that would be awesome if it was included

[slow bolt]

What would be included? Not to be rude but i am trying to understand exactly what you mean

[tight leaf]

If the actual main menu would also always play the menu music and not only once right after starting up the game.

Don't know if this is possible though

[slow bolt]

I see. Yeah user scripts are not loaded unless you are actually in game(as in not in the actual main menu, meaning you started/loaded the game)

I think it is doable for sure using MCM code, but honestly i dont think it is worth it

[tight leaf]

yeah, no problem. Would be nice to have, but not worth lots of work for such a small gimmick. But thank you 🫡

[ruby dust]

anyone?

what does control_inertion_factor do?

[regal bolt]

hello everyone

I want to add SOC music to gamma, anyway on how I can do that?

[tawny stream]

Already exists, check moddb. I believe it was also posted in #1035807043933720576 here too.

[fair canopy]

i dont think it was posted to moddb

[tawny stream]

At least I can infer I'm not totally crazy based on this comment.

[fair canopy]

iirc someone posted something. i actually dont think it was an official post though

it was like a test that kinda worked

but i dont doubt something like that would cause busy hands in the long run

[young hemlock]

@slow bolt

мод сделан но есть ошибка

помоги

пж

[young hemlock]

guys

help

Expression : false
Function : CXml::Load
File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrXMLParser\xrXMLParser.cpp
Line : 139
Description : XML file:text\eng\dialogs_redforest.xml value: errDescr:Error reading end tag.

stack trace:

this is my error

[edgy salmon]

Видишь написано название файла dialogs_redforest.xml и ошибка «Error reading end tag»? У тебя что-то не так с закрывающим тегом в этом файле. Скорее всего скобку не закрыл.

[surreal gust]

landmine suicide

[potent flare]

Ребят не могу открыть огф модель адекватно помогите

[lilac idol]

is that something like a dynamic minefield or something or did you just placed it there?

[surreal gust]

it's static

but i think it can be dynamic

since, it's technically an anomaly

[lilac idol]

oohhh that's actually so cool, I've been wishing for something like that for some time

so it works just as any other anomaly?

[surreal gust]

the devs definetly got inspired from a certain country

[surreal gust]

kinda

when it goes boom boom, it won't regenerate

[lilac idol]

would be cool to have that around military bases and such

[lilac idol]

so once the level is loaded those spawn automatically?

and only once

[surreal gust]

yes

because it's static

[lilac idol]

and is ai affected by it?

like does it have that interaction where human NPC's won't trigger it but mutants will?

[surreal gust]

The level editor has an option if the ai can see that anomaly

Npcs not dying to anomalies is anomaly related

This did not happen in the og trilogy

[lilac idol]

yes I know that anomaly changed that, was just curious if that was a universal setting or if it depends on the map and settings for it

[surreal gust]

Anomaly devs made the anomalies invisible to all npcs

Because there was a bug in some anomaly zones

[lilac idol]

I can kind of imagine what it would look like otherwise

[surreal gust]

There aren't really any military bases

[lilac idol]

btw is that the level that you were working on in that new levels suggestion thread?

[surreal gust]

So, I have to find some spots to put the landmines

[surreal gust]

Yes

I'm not talking about those levels.

[lilac idol]

nice, how's it going so far?

[surreal gust]

It's alright, but there's still a lot of work to do

[lilac idol]

yeah forget it, I got mixed up for a sec

[surreal gust]

I want to use high poly assets

I do have some, but they're lacking in quantity

[lilac idol]

and how do they affect performance?

is it any noticeable?

[surreal gust]

Not much

The game doesn't lag because of map geometry

It's because of the ai and more

You can notice this yourself

[lilac idol]

yeah I found that out the hard way after tweaking zcp lol

[surreal gust]

Load a map from debug mode without starting a new game

And compare that same map with a new game

You'll notice that the fps will drop

[lilac idol]

yeah they do drop a lot

anyway if you can use those good assets without any problems then that's really good

I really liked the design of the map when I first saw it

[surreal gust]

I won't use super detailed assets

I have some from survavium

But I'm worried about the file size

[lilac idol]

it was kind of what dead city should have looked like

[surreal gust]

Since they use custom textures

[lilac idol]

well yeah that could be kind of a problem

can't you compress the textures?

[surreal gust]

Yeah, bro, lemme just compress textures in dxt1 format, and hopefully the quality won't be affected

It's either... taketh or leaveth

[lilac idol]

I mean I don't know shit about textures that's why I was wondering wether compressed textures look bad or not

I have never understood them

[hollow gale]

is anyone familiar with making custom weapon repos?

Wondering because I have been making my own weapon repos recently. I think I'm doing it correctly because the game doesn't crash and most of my weapon repos show up in game. But for some guns like Manguns SR2M and a few pistols, my repos just dont show up no matter how hard i try

[slow bolt]

You need to DLTX your repositions

if they dont show up - add more z's in front of the file name

[hollow gale]

ohhhhhhhh

I was wondering why people put a bunch of z's in front of the file name for things like repos

well, I'll try it out then, thank you

[hollow gale]

Ayee it works, tysm

I am wondering as well, is it possible to delete everything in the cache dbg file? the file that has all of the custom repos that i initially save. cuz its getting a bit crammed and sometimes is annoying to scroll thru to find the gun i would like to apply a repo to

I feel like it would be ok to do so since the repos in it dont apply into the game, but just want to make sure since its surprisingly easy to destroy the engine and the modpack lol

[fair canopy]

turn off the game, then delete

[hollow gale]

Oh ok thanks I will try doing that

[potent flare]

Guys, please help me how to draw the armor model or change the one that is in the game. The OGF format does not open correctly. Help me please. I want to draw my own armor.

Used blender. Plugin installed 0 sense

Here I opened it for editing. This is what is happening. But maybe this is the HD model because of this?

In the end it looks like this

[slow bolt]

As i told you already

Look in the modding book on the blender plugin

I can clearly tell you never did

[fair canopy]

[slow bolt]

You need older version of blender for the plugin to work

[potent flare]

I installed the plugin, but it doesn't open.

ok

[slow bolt]

It cant. Belender changed things too much

[surreal gust]

4.2 out already

Da fuuuuq

I remember when 4.0 was a beta test

[wary scroll]

Is that good guys ?
I saw that crete wall at undergrounds so maybe it's just the best
And about floor one I made it to be aged, weathered and dirty like many people walked

[surreal gust]

Casually creating misery mod 3.0.0 textures

[slow bolt]

walls looking good

floors maybe darker. SU floors were usually smooth stone/wood or plated with ceramic plates(for cleaner places like kitchen) or places that were more presentable

[wary scroll]

I see
Yea I got it will make it a bit more darker

[slow bolt]

I was born in a CIS country, so that is what it feels like to me

Soviet colors of a building were more gray and colorless

never clay color for floors. that color was used by wood and not stone

[wary scroll]

Will I have to work on it tomorrow again then

[slow bolt]

Most buildings that are really soviet that i have been in had smooth stone floors

so this were classic walls

this was also a thing for walls

but on the outside of the buildings

there we go. this floor

[wary scroll]

I made just a few textures but better quality compared to my first time
Was 5 months ago and I was making 30 Tex per day
But now 5 per day
More searching on the internet for good pbrs but paid pbrs need money
Like 3 or more euros

[slow bolt]

think this is covered with linoleum(idfk how that translates)

but underneath it is smooth stone

[wary scroll]

For this
Is that a combination of maybe green white and yellow?

[slow bolt]

these tiles were used for showers/bathrooms

[slow bolt]

its the lighting

its green and white. usually green-ish in the end

[wary scroll]

Dam man that's a lot of info
Good to have someone with that info

[slow bolt]

here is an accurate image for industrial buildings. though i think this is not news

[wary scroll]

Just right before I go to bed I made my final Tex for today

[slow bolt]

more bathroom tiles. but these were used for walls

[wary scroll]

This white scratched wall and a little rusty due to metal roof

[slow bolt]

though could be on the floor, but bigger like before

[wary scroll]

So I prefer this kind of colours and tiles

[slow bolt]

here is the common apartment floor. just smooth concrete with nothing

[slow bolt]

these were used for shower rooms or in some medical clean rooms

[wary scroll]

So like this ? white, gray, yellow, green, and blue sky

[slow bolt]

yellow wasnt used much

if at all. cant think of examples

actually, toilet walls/bathroom tiles could be yellow

or its that they were old and originally orange

these were used in pedestrian walkways(outside). i think pripyat even has them in game

[wary scroll]

I used this colour
But I recreated it
Like less yellow and much dirty

[slow bolt]

This parquet floor was very common in older buildings as floor material

i've seen this one a lot

[slow bolt]

It looks painted

which actually fits

its inside the building, so whoever lived there would have painted the walls

[wary scroll]

Do you use adega ?
There's something like this one with moss
But not detailed like on top of this
I will use this looks really good

[slow bolt]

I use whatever gamma comes with. and i think classic textures to boost fps

another example of the batroom/cleanroom ceramic tile walls

oh there we go. granite/marble floors.
Would be found in center buildings like palace of culture and stuff

[wary scroll]

Maybe I will replace this with bandit camp parquet
There's a parquet texture idk how can I explain

[wary scroll]

I saw this more in the pripyat area

I wish we were able to put any textures whenever we needed
So hard to fit all to work along with each other

I am also working on textures like this 1k 2k 4k so everyone could be able to use
But I need a lot of time

[slow bolt]

yeah here you can see those tiles used in the pool and showers areas

waterproofing, naturally

the yellowing btw is normal even in todays times

everywhere there were these tiles - that yellowing was present

example of the residential building outside wall

green-ish, naturally

[wary scroll]

This is hard to create

In game and real life

[slow bolt]

very rough older house interior

but also very familiar, so realistic

[wary scroll]

Yea classic vibe

[slow bolt]

in pripyat would be in this state or even worse

[wary scroll]

So I need to work pripyat with this design except wallpaper

I really don't like wallpaper somehow

Idk

[slow bolt]

wallpaper?

no paper here. its.. plaster i think this is called

[wary scroll]

I know
I mean in game

They used wallpaper for pripyat not fit there really

[slow bolt]

aight images are now just repeating on google. enough for tonight

[wary scroll]

Thanks man you helped a lot

Good tons of info for tomorrow

[wary scroll]

But one last question
See this metal roof in this shot it's colour less
Can we use less saturated red or green for this roof ?

[slow bolt]

this material?

[wary scroll]

Yes

[slow bolt]

Its exactly as it should be

this was never colored

[wary scroll]

I see

[slow bolt]

also its not metal

i'll google rq what it is

i know the name but not in english

[wary scroll]

Yea I know what you mean it's something like clay or cement

Or maybe not

[slow bolt]

So the wiki page is only on Russian
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Асбестоцементный_шифер

Asbestos+concrete

[wary scroll]

Yea I guess what you mean
Got it
I need to replace some of them except this one with better quality
Maybe small leaves on top of them

Will I think I need to see podcasts about Russia/Ukraine (SU)

[slow bolt]

Watch Bald and Bankrupt

You'll get a good feel

[wary scroll]

Got it
Much appreciated mate
Thanks a lot for your help and opinions

And thanks for your time
Goodnight

[slow bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821444812532088832.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=lvutnerlovesyou

[potent flare]

I installed version 3.6 with steam, everything worked out. I spent half a day on this problem (unfortunately, the x-ray addon has not been adapted on new versions

[bronze harness]

making grandpa gun

[undone lily]

Oh interesting