╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[open oasis]

i don't like having to click multiple buttons and maneuver around multiple windows just to start my game

[fair canopy]

Sacrifices

[open oasis]

none were made, everything works perfectly now

the 20 second timer starts when i launch the game, then when i focus the window on the launched game it starts again, and by the time i load a save i'm already scaling

[hard harbor]

ive been told to seek hhelp here

[old berry]

im guessing its cuz the texture is at a different size

[hard harbor]

ii may be stupid but how do i fix it

i want it to look as much as thhe one on the right as possible

[old berry]

do you know how to edit dds files

[hard harbor]

yeahh i just did it so i can ahve migu

[old berry]

so just check if the size is the same as the original addon

[hard harbor]

i am actually stupid

i forgot to merge the layers

[old berry]

[hard harbor]

its still in god awful quality but atleast trhe whole migu is here

@old berry any idea bout that?

[old berry]

might be your export settings

[hard harbor]

i used the same ones as in normal anomaly

and it wasnt that bad

[old berry]

i honestly aint sure i dont really work with textures that much

[hard harbor]

do u know anyone who does

[obsidian void]

How difficult do y'all think it would be to add condition to suppressors?

Where a suppressor takes condition damage from use and needs to be cleaned with a repair kit like a solvent or ramrod?

[lethal garden]

So im using the most recent MP7 Reanimation mod on MODDB, having this issue with the aim animation, any idea? Im aware its likely a conflict, but upon disabling all conflicting mods, hasnt resolved it.

[fair canopy]

because theres most likely a dltx gamma has that adjust the aim position of the mp7

[lethal garden]

The hud positioning? I have my own config file for the hud pos for the MP7, this seems like an animation problem I believe

[cerulean heron]

if you talking bout more fps, try magpie

[random fulcrum]

magpie did nothing for me but it looks nice

[open oasis]

what's magpie?

[summer stream]

I'm pretty sure it's the gamma problem, since people under that mod complained about it

The people with default anomaly didn't complain at all

[obsidian pike]

Hello guys
I need some help from you
I add new outfit, but have with 1st person mod
I want to add a first-person view of the costume from another costume. Maybe someone knows how to prescribe it and where?

[summer stream]

which armor are you using?

wait actually i can say how to make it

@obsidian pike look into swm_legs.script in mods\236- 1st Person Visible Body Ported from SWM - Wang_Laoshi & SWM Team\gamedata\scripts

everything is in russian so you can understand it (hopefully)

[obsidian pike]

I want use nomad outfit
And little question
How can I open script file? Notepad++?

[open oasis]

How can I open script file? Notepad++?
yeah

[obsidian pike]

Thank you very much) Low bow

[old berry]

just tried this out, this is satanic black magic

[old berry]

@fair canopy do you also get this weird tearing effect when looking at the ground?

[fair canopy]

I haven't noticed tbh

[old berry]

it kinda looks like its vibrating or something

[slow bolt]

Frame generation, yeah

Though funnily enough to have decent resuts your FPS needs to be 60+

below 60 it becomes worse and worse

[open oasis]

you could try following my guideline and settings and seeing if that solves the issue

[old berry]

i did

[open oasis]

oh you're using my settings? i'm not getting any tearing

did you make sure to cap your framerate at half your refreshrate?

maybe untick Allow Tearing

[old berry]

yeah

i have it capped at 72

[open oasis]

Mirrowel is completely right though in order for this to work properly your framerate already needs to be decent, i.e. reliably being able to hit the cap

[old berry]

i have it capped in rtss and i can get it consistently

[open oasis]

that's odd

so yeah try without Allow Tearing

[old berry]

yeah that didnt work

[open oasis]

Andtheherois also doesn't use Frame Generation at all, only scaling

but i find that doesn't increase FPS as much as with FG

[old berry]

might be a frame gen thing then

[open oasis]

try unticking Performance? you'll get lower framerates but it might solve the tearing issue

also try LSFG 1.1 despite that also giving lower performance

[old berry]

i think changing to 1.1 fixed it

[open oasis]

what are you specs if i may ask?

[old berry]

rtx 2060
i5-10400f
32gb

[open oasis]

that's really interesting, your specs are almost identical to mine so i'm not sure why you're getting tearing with those settings, just goes to show how inconsistent the program is so it's probably a good thing we're not recommending it to everyone

oflin also had issues with artifacting while using it

[old berry]

can you post your nvidia control settings for the .exe?

[open oasis]

they're the same as in #╰⚡fps-optimisation

except i use Prefer Maximum Performance as opposed to Adaptive

don't have issues with cooling so i decided to keep that one as is

[old berry]

gonna see if that works

[open oasis]

don't forget triple buffering

[old berry]

nah its still there

[open oasis]

RIP

guess you're stuck using 1.1

but it's not that significant, it's like a ~10 FPS difference

[old berry]

i mean i usually play games at like 80-100 so thats fine

[open oasis]

imagine my surprise when i went from idling at 119 FPS to 144 FPS and then my game never dropped below 80 again whereas i could drop to low 30s and 20s in Rostok after playing for like an hour

[old berry]

the lowest i ever got in rostok was 50 lol

jupiter's worse tbh

[open oasis]

yeah i'm still torn on which one is worse, i'm kind of getting similar performances except when i actually leave Yanov station my framerate jumps back up to 120-130

[narrow stirrup]

did you fix this by any chance?

[steady venture]

transitioned to new pc, but apparently cant unpack anomaly, anyone has idea why it might be happening?

[summer girder]

That'd have to go to #🔨base-gamma-support
Make sure your antivirus software is completely off, you've got folder exclusions set up correctly (!defender in #🤖bot-commands ), and that you're using 7Zip and not default Windows extractor

[fair canopy]

Anyone around that can explain to me how to set the marks on reload animations to fix the timing?

[fair inlet]

reload timing fix mod has a .txt iirc

[fair canopy]

It can be set via ltx? I thought I had to mark the animation itself

[fair inlet]

no, I mean there's a text guide in the mod

[fair canopy]

Ooh

Cool I'll check it out when I get home

[cerulean heron]

an upscaler, search 'magpie github'

[open oasis]

do you have a guideline for the best settings to use/what prerequisite steps i need to take or do i just wing it

[cerulean heron]

no prerequisite

maybe watch a video on how to use magpie in case you dont know what ur doing

[open oasis]

alright

[open oasis]

@cerulean heron so are you meant to be using a lower resolution with this and then upscaling it to your native one? because with just the native resolution the performance is notably worse, with all the main effects

yeah no matter what i do using the upscaler lowers FPS by 6-8 frames

tried 720p and everything just looked like shit with no difference in performance lmao

FSRCNNX nukes FPS by like 30 frames lmao

yeah Lossless Scaling is far superior

[cerulean heron]

i guess

[cerulean heron]

but it cost money lol

[cerulean heron]

and yes ingame resolution needs to be lowered

[open oasis]

but it looks horrible

[cerulean heron]

idk maybe lossless scaling is better lol

i havent used magpie in a while, but i know last time i used it, it looked amazing and ran better

u using fsr?

[open oasis]

i tried the main effects - Lanczos, FSR, FSRCNNX, Integer Scaling

if i enable 3D Game Mode the FPS counter doesn't display accurate readings

look at this

you can count individual pixels on the knife lmfao

yeah even on a lower resolution the impact on framerate remains the same, about a 6 FPS loss

[obsidian void]

Hey guys, weird question but does anyone know if axr_options.ltx can be edited with DLTX or is there some other safe way that I can ship users specific presets for certain MCM settings?

[cerulean heron]

thats weird, maybe anomaly doesnt work well with magpie

[tropic shale]

Hello. Got question. I'm looking for value to change knockback of npc. In stason174 modpack there was such value. I changed that and they were flying like crazy. With hitmark mod and knockback it's a such good gameplay

[naive snow]

From memory, Hit_impulse is what you're looking for

[lethal garden]

Having the same issue?

[tardy hearth]

hello
to summarise, after talking abt making the leather journals useful, i wrote a bunch of different text for different factions, which i will soon send to be critiqued, but for now i am here to figure out where to find the existing leather journal, add a bunch of more, tweak their description and insides. nominally an easy task, its rather hard for me bc i never coded before*, so i dont know where to look for the existing leather journal. (after that i will try things out on my own, and if im stuck ill come here again lol)
*= i once coded the ping pong game, grok tremble in fear

[naive snow]

The leather journal is probably part of the base anomaly files, so you could start there and unpack the necessary stuff first

[tropic shale]

Thank you. Where can I change this value? Can I change global or every weapon in the game ?

[random fulcrum]

can change k_impulse on the ammo properties

it's a modifier on the gun's hit_impulse property

so idk just turn it up to like 15 or something and everything should be flying

[tardy hearth]

ok, i am stumped

you see, with a little bit of wizardry and chatgpt assistance i have made this unholy concoction

and now it is telling me to create a lua script that will enable the page to be opened

[random fulcrum]

bro asked chatgpt to write the code for him

laugh at this user

read the modding book

[tardy hearth]

i couldnt find this there, but if i were to create an individual lua script and a script in notepad++, how do i mix them together so they form one entity?

or do i not

yoy

[last valve]

im looking for the heavy brown overcoat inventory icon texture in the DB files which DB do i need to unpack to find it?

[tardy hearth]

nevermind, lua as a program does not exist

i know that i sound foolish, but i have basically no experience with coding, i am trying my best

...and will need a lot of help, although ill try my best

[tardy hearth]

right, the title, description for all is done, i need help with the lua script that will open the journal (maybe with pages, but that might be hard to code in)

i am thinking of a certain item in game, called "Monolith's Prayer" that opens a square of wallpaper with text displayed on it, except i do not have any clue on where to find the code for that

this is what i came up with btw

[tropic shale]

Guys i have only found 182- GBOOBS vanilla ammo - Grokitach. wanted to change k_impulse but there are only few ammo types

[regal bolt]

any mods that let me sell guns to any trader?

[narrow stirrup]

yep i tryed to hide some mp7 related ltx on mo2 but without success

[sleek lion]

guys, please help me, I press the "home" button, but nothing happens, I can't select a preset

[open oasis]

!reshade

[queen pine]

@sleek lion Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[open oasis]

why did you think MODS MAKING discussion was the right place to ask about reshade

[summer girder]

And not #☢чат-сталкеров-ru-ua or #🔨поддержка-стандарт-gamma-ru-ua

[regal bolt]

any mods that make traders buy shi at base cost?

[naive snow]

Just crank your sell price modifier to silly values

[plush sierra]

Which file effects your new game equipment points and weapon options?

[open oasis]

\gamedata\configs\items\settings\new_game_loadouts.ltx

i think

[plush sierra]

Thanks. UGP messed up the balance a bit, I'm trying to regammify it

[open oasis]

oh i only know this because of UGP lol

you can retain GAMMA balance by disabling the DLTX Fixes mod (one of the last ones on the list)

that's what i did

it removes the overpowered weapons from the starting loadouts and only leaves in things like the MAC10 which are somewhat more natural-feeling

[lethal garden]

Go reinstall the mod from MODDB he fixed it

[slow bolt]

This man believes in Gamma Balance™️. Dont tell him

[plush sierra]

My personal preference *

[open oasis]

UGP puts some wild fucking guns into the starting loadouts, i don't blame him

[slow bolt]

it probably has more of the needed stuff than just new game loadouts

[slow bolt]

I dont see the point. just dont pick em

[open oasis]

no i don't want to be allowed to pick them lol

[plush sierra]

I agree

I'm trying to figure out this mag problem

[open oasis]

UGP provides its own Mags Redux and it has to stay in the same spot as the original one i'm pretty sure

but this is not suited for #╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[plush sierra]

I just spoke with Frosty. I don't think there's a fix yet

[open oasis]

i see

[plush sierra]

Which is a shame, because it's one hell of a pack. I'm just trying to do what I can to help fix it

[narrow stirrup]

Thanks for tell me!

[tawny stream]

Throw the first ROF upgrade on the MAC and it is awesome in a close-in firefight. Because you know, 1100 RPM is just not enough.

[soft burrow]

how do I monkey patch this function? it's defined like this in tasks_measure.script and it's not written in xr_conditions.script or any other file

[sacred token]

Monkey patch it like it would be in xr_conditions.script

Because its technically part of the xr_conditions namespace

@soft burrow

[plush sierra]

Can anyone tell me the simplest way to remove an item from loading into the game. Say, I'm removing a weapon or two from a weapons pack, do I just delete the matching wpn name files, or is there a way to blacklist them whilst leaving the source intact?

[surreal gust]

Monkey patch numba 4948495830493

[naive snow]

Make a dltx that deletes the entry of a weapon :
!![wpn_pmm_bas]
for example

[fair canopy]

Just be careful when you do that because if you delete a gun a that's in a loadout config, the game will crash for a missing section

[naive snow]

Mod system the shit out of every config

[simple scaffold]

And the trade configs but I guess with a weapon that won't matter in gamma.

[simple scaffold]

I would make a script using the on net spawn callback to replace the offending gun with a preferred substitute every time it spawns.

Way easier than hunting down every possible place in the game that might try and use that weapon.

[regal bolt]

any mods that make it so the wipe feature is actually needed?

like more rain blocking visor so i need to wipe my visor reguarly?

[cloud pollen]

is there any tutorial to help me with making a custom menu or ui mod?

[obsidian void]

You could edit this mod to make the rain drops appear faster instead of slower.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/rain-droplets-appear-more-slowly1

[plush sierra]

Thanks Raven

[orchid agate]

guys since i play with mags redux

is there a way to get frasier mp5 mags?

[simple scaffold]

If the gun works without mags then it needs to have compatibility files made.

If you simply can't find mags keep checking vendors while you have the gun equipped. There is a safety mechanism to ensure some mags for your equipped gun are included in a trader refresh. But it has to be a refresh and you have to have the gun equipped. So sleep a bunch or find a merchant you haven't looked at in a while

[soft burrow]

still having problems with #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message
I'm trying to:

• 1. allow some blacklisted maps in anomaly measurement tasks
• 2. allow the current and adjacent level anomalies in said tasks

I managed to do number 1 by unlocalizing tasks_measure.blacklisted_maps
and I thought I could do number 2 by changing a task parameter (p[2]) in a monkeypatch before the original function processes it

but then when I try monkeypatching the validate_measure_task function the tasks stop appearing in the taskboard altogether, no error crash to desktop, nothing

the weirdest thing is that if I disable or remove the unlocalizing of tasks_measure.blacklisted_maps the measurement tasks start appearing again but the monkeypatch still has no effect at all

(right now I'm changing p[2] to 2 just to test the monkeypatch, which should make tasks appear for anomalies in the current and adjacent levels instead of far levels with the default 4. My intention is to change it to 5 so it allows all anomalies in the current, adjacent, and far levels)

so I'm thinking on giving up on the monkeypatch and instead try dltx'ing the 4 to 2 in the tasks' ltx

is there a way to just target the 4 with dltx or is redefining the whole precondition line the only way?

I will go with redefining the whole line with dltx since they are all the same

[soft burrow]

turns out there are no examples of people dltx'ing task preconditions and I can't figure it out lmao

[orchid agate]

that's why mags buyable at traders is nice but apparently it causes issues , idk what type of issue but issues nontheless

also that validates why I see SOME magazines for some weapons

thank you raven ❤️

[slow bolt]

Last time I played I saw those mags in debug iirc

Depends on mods ofc

[orchid agate]

I still dont know what issue mags buyable at traders causes

if any

[slow bolt]

Get the good mod below it

In the command

Its just better

[orchid agate]

1 sec

[slow bolt]

Some recipes dont show up iirc, as that mod was made before that

Its old

[orchid agate]

Right

[orchid agate]

where is the download file for it?

do i have to scroll up all the way to the top?

[slow bolt]

For what

[orchid agate]

the mod

or

is it not a mod?

[slow bolt]

!mags

[queen pine]

@orchid agate How to properly enable and disable Mags Redux (adds magazine management): #╭📖faq message

[slow bolt]

Here

[orchid agate]

this thing

when I click on it

it just redirects me to the discussion

Found it

it was in pinned

[slow bolt]

Yeah so go to it and check pins

You arent new

You should know

[orchid agate]

I've been on the job for a couple of wires my brain switches between gamma player and the other thing

almost downloaded the wrong file

cuz I have the new mags

[orchid agate]

im not new in the server
cant say the same about installing and tinkering with mods however

im a fish out the water

[simple scaffold]

That is a normal feature of mags redux. This is why I hate trying to help you ppl gamma butchers the mod and then you have mods to put it back to normal and who knows what that is doing

[fair canopy]

For this in particular it works by loading all the weapons into the trader so the mags are forced to generate, then removing the weapons again. Every time the trader is opened...

[random fulcrum]

why not simply do a trader autoinject patch to add mags

instead of generating every gun inside the guy's bag

or replacing the entire economy ltx

[fair canopy]

Ask grok why there's a mod that adds them via an ltx for trader profiles. It works much better and let's you fine tune the mags you can buy

[celest forge]

Trader auto inject poopy

DLTX better

[random fulcrum]

he has said that he doesn't like super compatible mods

his words

[orchid agate]

ofc he doesn't

[fair canopy]

[orchid agate]

How dare you try to put an extra mod on top of gamma

UNACCEPTABLEEEEE

[celest forge]

I'll use DLTX files til I die

[orchid agate]

No idea what that is but good for you

[celest forge]

Auto inject scripts can't be customized as well as DLTX files and I've gotten crashes and guns just flat out not showing up on traders because of those scripts

[obsidian void]

Hey, I DLTX'ed tasks in SIGMUND, this should be helpful to you

[simple scaffold]

That is a skill issue. Since the trade profiles are read by a script trader auto inject can do everything they can and more. Of course that would involve a script as least as complex as trade manager.

But "can't" is a lie

[celest forge]

Well yeah maybe not "can't"

I actually have no clue how ANY script works

I still prefer DLTX files

Easier to manage and make from someone that's not code savvy

[obsidian void]

You need to target the file task_manager with your filename. So mod_task_manager_(yournamehere)

[simple scaffold]

That's silly. But that means the only thing stopping mags from being at traders is the lack of weapons so the fail safe will work. They will sell a few mags for your equipped gun at the time of refresh.

[obsidian void]

This was an issue for Blackmarket, removing the restriction on weapons in trader pools caused the mags injection script to inject a bunch of weapons into the trader inventories

[fair canopy]

This dltx the mag profiles you want. As the great Todd coward says, it just works

[obsidian void]

Yeah seems quite a bit simpler to just let DLTX do the work

[fair canopy]

Iirc gamma kills trader autoinject

[misty mulch]

reintroduces bugged items, overwrites trader profiles, outdated and does not add mags for many of the newer guns.

[slow bolt]

nah

You just need gamma's version of it. Which is always old as fuck when it is gamma's version of anything

[fair canopy]

[misty mulch]

mm nah gamma needs trader_autoinject to function. specifically it's because hideout furnitures uses a new(er? newest?) version of it

it's actually usually what causes that get_community error in modded modlists. someone has an ancient version of it overwriting the late-loading hideout furnitures trader_autoinject.script

[random fulcrum]

this is why you always grab libraries and have them always at the end of the modlist

[random fulcrum]

right, mods making discussion everybody

[open oasis]

momo i want you to make me a gun that shoots unicorns

[fair canopy]

Why is there no dog hip replacer

[slow bolt]

[orchid agate]

@slow bolt did I install it wrong?

so

I use latest mags version afaik

and I installed this

but I don't see mags in traders inventory

or do I need both?

[slow bolt]

refresh the trade inventory first

and ping shine if problems

[orchid agate]

oh right

so I only need

one of the two files depending on mags version

correct?

[slow bolt]

idk

[orchid agate]

Nice

ty

[slow bolt]

I still have 0.90 gamma and dont plan on updating

[random fulcrum]

classic toxic modder behavior

[orchid agate]

fair

[slow bolt]

[orchid agate]

I mean if he doesn't know its fine

lets reset traders and see

[soft burrow]

this worked
thanks!

[simple scaffold]

No. Mags only ever inserts mags. You ppl do not understand your own soup

[obsidian void]

Bro I'm telling you that when I created black market, the "mags buyable at trader" mod injected weapons into the trader pools in order to add the compatible mags

I know this because I looked at the script and solved the issue by disabling the mod lol

[simple scaffold]

That is not mags redux. That is a crappy attempt at getting around gammas weapon BS

[obsidian void]

Well yeah but still that's how that mod works

[simple scaffold]

Well it's not my hack.

Why tag me about it

[undone venture]

Sup, anyone wanna help me? Dunno where to ask and i know modding people will for sure know. Im looking for the "Death Lamp" .ogf file but all artifacts are in .ltx and idk how to extract it, anyone has any idea..?

[covert galleon]

Z:\Gamma\mods\333- Fixed Artefacts Colision and Visuals - KronQ and Longreed\gamedata\meshes\dynamics\artefacts

[undone venture]

looking through the list rn, cant seem to find the death lamp? is it under other name by any chance?

[covert galleon]

check the debug menu for the correct name, it shows IDs

[undone venture]

damn. hoped i can do it without re-isntaling my gamma but oh well

[covert galleon]

I can check for you then

two minutes

[undone venture]

that would be lovely ❤️

[undone venture]

thanks in advance ❤️

[covert galleon]

I'm still looking, I literally cannot find it lol

[undone venture]

;-;

[covert galleon]

it definitely has an ogf file because Z:\Gamma\mods\52- Perk-Based Artefacts - Demonized\gamedata\configs\items\items\items_artefacts references the file address as dynamics\artefacts\artefact_death_lamp.ogf

But its ID ingame is af_death_lamp from Grok's GAMMA Artefacts Reinvention

[undone venture]

god damn it. why cant it be easy

i litelarly have no clue how to find that .ogf then

[covert galleon]

yeah I can't find it at all and I've searched every file in all 3 of the enabled artefact mods

[undone venture]

fml

If anyone knows how to help pls tag me :<

[undone venture]

Hmm... the ogfviewer gives me the "out of memory" error on it

Shieeeet

I hate the fact there is no easy way to convert .ogf to .obj or .stl

[random fulcrum]

literally just blender

[undone venture]

It opens the .ogf files without any plugins? I was looking on google for programs that open them and didnt find anything

[random fulcrum]

no, it needs a plugin

but it's the easy way to convert .ogf to .obj or .stl

[undone venture]

Huh... okay. Ill try it tommorow, thanks for the hint

[opal mirage]

Shot in the dark as I know nothing about making mods... would it be possible to edit the map data so that the door to the room behind dushman in dead city is a) open and b) doesn't cause the mercs to go hostile? I just want to set up a cozy hideout space in there ;___;

[tawny stream]

Short answer is no.

Longer answer is probably still no, because map editing is very much a pain in the ass.

[slow nexus]

yo anyone know what this is? i dont have debug mode enabled

https://mnml.jp.net/i/yjs4b.jpg

[open oasis]

bro downloaded wallhacks for a SP game

[slow nexus]

very helpful

oh it was a bodycam mod i got from moddb

[open oasis]

i don't owe you any help, was just commenting on the peculiarity of the situation, regardless you're posting into the wrong channel

[slow nexus]

i forgot to uninstall it

[sour salmon]

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // use the file searcher

[queen pine]

@covert galleon Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

[misty mulch]

you should also be able to read the death lamp's .ltx config file to see the filepath it uses to look for model files

[surreal gust]

What did bro get himself into.

[slow bolt]

Bodycam mod

[slow nexus]

Yeah it was ally hud markers trying to simulate body tracking but its scuffed

[slow nexus]

are bullets fired from the head position in stalker or does it fire from your weapon model position?

[random fulcrum]

your bullets come out from the center of the screen

the barrrel's direction influences the bullet's trajectory

for mobs the bullet comes out of the barrel

[slow nexus]

cheers

[slow nexus]

i mean you can open it in the base game so i dont see why not?

just use a gauss rifle to glitch the door open

;)

[random fulcrum]

right, mods making discussion

[neon kite]

so im trying to understand this.

[random fulcrum]

it's literal

[neon kite]

I get the question, Im just trying to figure out where that file is.

[random fulcrum]

search in files for keywords would be a start{

[neon kite]

from what I gathered It seems he just found a mod that had the ![wpn_ and just made an edit for his specific weapon. Correct me if my train of thought it wrong or correct

[astral dome]

Когда ты уже успокоишься псих, сам нихера не сделал НЕСКАМ и сидишь пиздишь по чем зря

We're working on a native anomaly co-op

But full gamma co-op on our base isn't real. Some features may not work in multiplayer mode.

[summer girder]

Replied to an over a month old message just to call a guy a psycho, in Russian, in a primarily English speaking chat

[random fulcrum]

hash functions but it now has a household name behind it

[astral dome]

1. he knows russian
2. There's much discord servers about stalker (reply time can be long)
3. I have been busy by making my mod

[random fulcrum]

lmao and it just so happens that the guy picks the one time he gets mentioned in a message

[astral dome]

lmao my friend sent me that

i replied

proof of work
in Anomaly
beta co-op

so WIP

[celest forge]

One guy can see the other one

the other plays as the schizo fueled voices in the other guy's head telling him to join Duty

[astral dome]

well it's beta

my main multiplayer mod works as normal stalker (as dedicated server)

but we've started to make it in the native monolith-engine code literally from that we have our fork and anomaly fork

[jolly galleon]

hey guys, not sure which chat is best to ask about this in, sorry, but does anyone know what mod is the source of the tritium iron sights for stuff like the AK-74 venom & other stuff like that? Is that hardwired into BAS?

just not a fan, blame it on my tism but it's just a wierd sensory thing for me

[surreal gust]

how is this clown still not banned yet?

[latent sandal]

Hello everyone! Does anyone know how to change the damage of a specific weapon? What configs can be edited?

[vale knot]

Its model baked

You could get rid of them but itd require like. Removing it from each model or maybe removing the tritium shader

[undone venture]

okay so. Do i need like a blender plugin? cuz blender itself doesnt even see thoes files

[misty mulch]

the weapon's config file, look for and change the hit_power value

[misty mulch]

read first pin

[undone venture]

okay im dumb. sorry ;-;

[latent sandal]

@misty mulchThank you. Please tell me where to find this file?

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // use MO2's file searcher

[queen pine]

@latent sandal Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

[misty mulch]

probably somewhere in gamedata/configs/items/weapons

[undone venture]

welp...

yeah

dont think blender likes the ogf files

even with the plugin

[celest forge]

What version of blender are you using

[undone venture]

4.1

[celest forge]

See

That's where your issue is

You have to use 3.6

[undone venture]

oooh okay

[edgy salmon]

if I'm trying to add an animation to an existing gun in Blender, how do I make the baseline hand positions match the original ones for the gun exactly?

[fair canopy]

Probably import the gun and hand animations and start with the idle as your base

[edgy salmon]

Thanks! So I need to set both the gun and the hands to idle and line up the hands on the gun manually? Or are the hands supposed to snap to the gun automatically?

[fair canopy]

You'll have to do a child of constraint on the gun so it follows the hand

[surreal gust]

ay @undone lily , how isn't this monokit clown banned from the server? that's the same guy who made radmp and radomaly scams.

[undone lily]

He was banned iirc

[surreal gust]

he's still in the server

[slow bolt]

@astral dome

[surreal gust]

he joined since march of this year

[astral dome]

Гниль одна в моддинге

I have 2 releases posted in my discord for free, where's the scammin?

[summer stream]

Терпеть надо

BTW quick question on the hand models, tried to fix the issue with hands going absolutely crazy but turned out to be my worst decision, now it's showing this error everytime, and idk how to fix it

(this is how it looks like before the 'fix', turned out to be using left hand bones vortex groups instead of right hand

[soft burrow]

outfit belt items memory

[fathom wagon]

G_FLAT out here making the true QoL addons

[regal bolt]

hello! any way to make copmpanions, change their behaviour when not in sneak?

I feel like they are more competant in sneak mode simply due to the fact that their sneak walk is fater than their standing walk.

[astral dome]

Так а хуль ты хотел, модели рук не подходят. Гансовские чтоли юзаешь?

[sour salmon]

Finally

[summer stream]

Че че? Это KVMAS, че ты там вообще говоришь?

[plush sierra]

Before I go off and try, is it possible to make weapon texture directly in blender then convert those exported texture into something xray compatible?

My morning brain is turning. It must be possible. How else would Lunatic have textures in his video to work with in the first place

Okay, I've answered my own question

[celest forge]

Possible? Yeah

But unless you're making your gun from absolute scratch, your model probably already has textures

[plush sierra]

I'm thinking of retexturing weapons with bad textures (at least, I don't like them)

[celest forge]

Most people use subtance painter for that

[plush sierra]

Good thing I own 😉 a copy

Has anyone written anything down you're aware of?

I'd have to convert the ogg into a compatible mesh

I guess that wouldn't be too hard

Thanks dude

[prime pecan]

VAL mw19 handle sounds

[prime pecan]

Teivaz MK47 MUTANT Resound MW2 Kastov

[fair canopy]

Release when?

[prime pecan]

Hard to say.. actually i`m in process of resound whole popular weapons imo

Just short preview of work)

Teivaz RPK resound

[fair inlet]

those are really nice.
btw do you include casing impact in shooting sounds?

[prime pecan]

Если ты про звуки пуль которые падают то это аддон Bullet shells с moddb

[slow bolt]

When the weapon handling sounds are louder than shooting sounds

Also a bit of a desync on the bolt at the end of reload

And when unjamming

[prime pecan]

As i said, that`s preview, not a final variant) but maybe your truth

[last valve]

hey people
looking for the location of where all the inventory armour textures/icons would be located ive unpacked anomaly and looking through the textures file though no file names seem to hint at where the armour icons would be any idea where they would be by any chance?

[summer girder]

Could be outfit or suit

[slow bolt]

Vanilla items are all in one file

[last valve]

nope no files called that i did however find the text file called textures that lists all the textures and theres no entry in there that mentions any armour either that or im blind/retarded

[summer girder]

Pain

Could just look at Cr3pis Helmet Less Icons fold structure and go from there with Anomaly folders

[last valve]

gotcha will do

uhhh

guh?

i did "open in explorer" in mo2 and theres nothing here except gamedata folder and the meta text file

i just wanna add some ned kelly armour to the game damnit

[prime pecan]

SCAR, FAMAS, G36, MCX Rattler and MK14 EBR, enough for today)

[last valve]

@summer girder ok i found the problem i was having i had to check the file thats inside the groks modpack installer file and there was stuff inside the gamedata folder this time the armour files appear to be in the UI file of textures however checking that in the unpacked folders theres no armour textures/icons in that file

[summer girder]

Might wanna wait for someone that actually knows shit then

[last valve]

watch its gonna be the most simplest shit ever that i could of figured out had it not been for the fact its almost midnight where i am

[regal bolt]

made a mod (modified a mod i found on moddb) which replaces the main menu music and for some reason its slowed to like half the speed but i aint complaining sounds amazing

what could be the cause of that

or is the main menu song in the game supposed to be slowed

[regal bolt]

ok nvm its not always slowed just sometimes

[summer stream]

So, contuining question from yesterday, anyone got fix for this kind of problem that yells at the vortex groups(bones)?

It does so probably because i renamed the r_forearm from l_forearm

[naive snow]

You'd have to check every bones to see their armature modifier settings

[summer stream]

Every model has armature to the arms i need

wait

is it what im thinking

what if im gonna bind it to that

still no

what the hell i should even do

everything is binded

[naive snow]

Do you have the weight groups setup on those geometry? Like if you check in your weight paint mode

[summer stream]

here ya go, checked every and don't see a problem here

[naive snow]

You should have at a minimum a vertex group per armature modifier

[summer stream]

what

[naive snow]

Every armature modifier, needs a vertex group, at a minimum

[summer stream]

the arm that it yells at has three vertex groups

[naive snow]

One of your bones isn't part of any armature modifier

[summer stream]

i maybe know which

this one

but i forgot how to fix that problem

[naive snow]

What did you do to it?

[summer stream]

renamed from l_forearm to r_forearm

it had a problem which stretched it away

[naive snow]

You renamed both the bone and the vertex group?

[summer stream]

bone?

the bone is this

[naive snow]

No that's the armature group

Bones are the hierarchy underneath

[summer stream]

and as far as i know

i don't think so

[naive snow]

Hence the bone icon too

[summer stream]

[naive snow]

Every vertex group is associated with a bone

[naive snow]

If you renamed only the vertex group, then l_forearm, the bone, doesn't have a vertex group

[summer stream]

ah ffs

i renamed only vertex group

found the bone

and now i need to remember how to do so

[naive snow]

F2

[summer stream]

huh

they're both the same

[naive snow]

Just be careful not to end up with two r_forearm

[summer stream]

why doesn't it work

im so fucking dumb

[naive snow]

because your l_forearm is empty and doesn't have a vertex group

[summer stream]

so i got these two-

[naive snow]

You know what, just send over the .blend file

[summer stream]

okay

i'm too dumb for blender stuff

[open oasis]

burn fixing more than icons

[summer girder]

He's fixing a .blend, not a .dds file

[summer stream]

so true

[naive snow]

Well one way I found of fixing it,
go to your Pose menu (instead of edit/object mode)
Select all of your bones
Under the Pose menu in your viewport, go to Bone Group, Assign new bone group

It's an odd problem maybe from the plugin itself as other models don't really require bone groups to export

One of your manipulation might have left some remaining data onto the bones themselves

Ohhhh nevermind I think I figured it out, some stuff in your motions files are causing the issue:

If you export without motions it works

[summer stream]

i am very thankful for fixing that problem burn

and explaining how to fix

since forgor.

[naive snow]

My best guess is one of those two motions uses a different rig than the hands you have

[summer stream]

i think ace52 uses it

because the KVMAS has additional(?) bone

and trying to make it work normally makes me want to jump in window

[lethal garden]

Im searching for abobale in the join server tab, but i cant find it!

[magic zodiac]

how can I fix a mod that causes busyhands from an actor on update callback?

[slow bolt]

Google it

[lethal garden]

Ive literally tried that also. Just some user profiles pop up. Im sorry.

[slow bolt]

#1137162280816099450 message

[orchid agate]

Yo quick question

I got the new mags installed

what was the fix for this?

[orchid agate]

how do I move the map?

[slow bolt]

If whatever minimap mod you have allows that - by reinstalling

[orchid agate]

I dont have any minimap mod bro

this is default gamma minimap

lol

[open oasis]

!minimap

[queen pine]

@orchid agate Change your minimap style and/or position: #╭📖faq message

[open oasis]

this is not the right channel to receive mod-specific support

[orchid agate]

well my bad dude

i didnt know where to ask

damn

God forbid a man ask a question

[open oasis]

relax, no need to make a scene because you were corrected

just use #╟🔰☢newbies-chat or #╓☢stalker-chat or even #🔨modded-gamma-support next time, you of all people have been here long enough to know this

[orchid agate]

I don't ask there because in the first two I doubt someone will help me

and in the third thats mostly for random crashes

[open oasis]

you'd be surprised

newbies chat is one of the most helpful channels out there

[orchid agate]

Thanks either way ❤️

[last valve]

so uh anyone here know texture stuff thats able to help me out here?
ive unpacked the anomaly files using the unpacker that comes with anomaly the problem im having is i cant find the inventory armour icon textures anywhere closest i was able to finding them was looking in the UI folder though its not there any ideas on where to find this stuff?

[ivory yew]

Is there a way to get a list of code names from debug menu?

[unborn vessel]

Did you find an answer

[lilac compass]

Nope

[misty mulch]

wdym code names. item ids?

[ivory yew]

Yes. Got it just by looking in debug spawn menu

[bronze harness]

iwi carmel appearance on stalker 2 (my own version 2019 & 2023 mix)

[simple barn]

I would like to attach the PSO to the Saiga, does anyone know a way to do this?

[open oasis]

https://youtu.be/u8crq79zMfs

[simple barn]

Thankee!

[regal bolt]

Anyone here knows the proper ratio of the portraits?

Kinda interesting how GPT recognized shock protection and shit. Cool beans

[random fulcrum]

bro stooped as low as to asking chatgpt to write the ltx for him

and it did it wrong

[regal bolt]

I didn't ask it to write the ltx lol

I asked it how should I begin with it

Meanwhile having the modding book open in a separate tab

Just showing that it's neat how GPT recognized some of the resistances in the game

Like fr. Tell me this isn't close to it

Burn, shock, radiation, strike, chem burn lol

Is the radiation protection overwritten by something here?

And if so then how do I look for what does overwrite it?

Also what is this for?

[slow bolt]

No shit its in the name. Most are self-explanatory

its the number after that makes little sense

[regal bolt]

Oh on that I do agree on XD

I feel like I'm way too stupid to comprehend what's in that book

How is it that a single armor info is stored across multiple files...

And how do I connect them all

[random fulcrum]

don't need to have multiple files

just do the bones section in the same ltx

[regal bolt]

No no. I meant for the descript- What do you mean with "bones section"?

[random fulcrum]

ballistics

it's just that

again, do your homework

do the research

[regal bolt]

Uh huh. Okay...?

[regal bolt]

Trying

I learn best with making an example. That way I can memorize most of the stuff neccessary for redo, and know where exactly stuff has been done to do something

That's why I can't just learn off of your mod, but maybe I can compare it to the one I have already and try to learn from it

Brb

[summer girder]

Did I walk in on another guy using chatgpt for modding

[tawny stream]

That tends to work for me. Look at something that works, look at what kind of bullshit I've done trying to make it work and go from there.

[regal bolt]

Yeah. Trying that now

Comparing the two

[open oasis]

praying for you 🤞

[regal bolt]

Thanks.

That really helps

Kinda feel neck deep in hate for trying to comprehend it

[sour prawn]

i have done everything you have said but it keeps telling to read the manual

(nvm i got it to work after few minutes of trying)

though its meh at best

it has this unnatural feeling while playing

but i must say it made my fps go from 35 to 75

[open oasis]

that's because it increases latency to do that frame manipulation

you get used to it pretty quickly though and the performance increase is very much worth the ~30 FPS boost it gives

(35 FPS is fucking horrible btw not sure how you're able to stomach playing the game like that)

[sharp quail]

lol i was just searching for the words fps and come across this, havent tried gamma yet with my new hardware. Gonna see how much fps i get with a 6700xt and a 7800x3D

[summer girder]

At least 2

[sour prawn]

i got rtx 2060

but my gamma is heavily modded

ADEGAZR+ texture pack

[open oasis]

so do i and i'm getting a consistent 120 FPS with Lossless Scaling enabled, you're doing something very wrong to end up with a 35 FPS game, you should follow the advice over at #╰⚡fps-optimisation

admittedly though your GPU matters very little with the Xray Engine

my GAMMA is also using some of the largest mods out there

[sour prawn]

i did the most basic step (the settings set up)

45 fps

[open oasis]

kek that is extremely low

you must have bloated the fuck out of your PC

[sour prawn]

what does that mean

useless software?

[open oasis]

yeah just lots of shit running in the background that shouldn't be

[sour prawn]

btw this fps issue only happens in gamma

[sour prawn]

i turn off useless softwares using the command console where you are able to see whats running

CTRL+SHIFT+ESC

i probably installed something wrong or did something wrong

i will reset my gamma back to vanilla and slowly work from there

seems like the only way

also check for bloatwares

[sour prawn]

alright

did all the basic fps optimization stuff

lets see now

[misty mulch]

never use chatgpt for niche things like this. the odds of anomaly ltxes being its training set is basically 0 and it will simply give you confident, wrong answers

[sour prawn]

also turned gamma back to vanilla gamma

i average about 85 fps

[misty mulch]

unless you're easily wowed by the concept of an advanced autosuggest managing to figure out that those sure are some variable names

[regal bolt]

Okay, just wanted to see if it will spew something comprehensive like learning file structure. Not really taking details. Just the general info about what is neccessary for modding

[misty mulch]

it cannot know the correct anomaly file structure, because it is fundamentally not trained on anomaly file structures, and more to the point there would never be enough data to train chatgpt to be correct about anomaly modding

you've stumbled into the thing that's related to my actual day job: warning people when not to use chatgpt (i.e. most of the time)

[regal bolt]

No no. The base concept of file structure learning, not the actual file structure from the game

[misty mulch]

yeah it can't tell you that

because chatgpt does not understand the difference between truth and lies, fundamentally it only knows "these words usually come after these other words"

[regal bolt]

XD

That's all that I cared for when I saw it, but glaced over the rest to see if it's similar to anything I had already

[misty mulch]

just because the fancy autocorrect managed to string a sentence together, doesn't mean it's right - and more to the point, it actually got it wrong

inv_name_short can never have spaces, description likewise can never be plain text (none of the name strings can be plaintext). it managed to figure a number comes after the word "cost" whoop de doo.
also it's not an ini file, it's .ltx. it will break if you try to use a .ini file

[misty mulch]

you literally have a room full of knowledgeable people to ask and you asked the brainless parrot machine instead bro

[regal bolt]

I know that. Just found it funny how it knew the burn, shock and chem burn damage types

[misty mulch]

it's about as charming as a 3 year old learning to repeat words after you, yes

[regal bolt]

To see if it will spew anything comprehensible. Already explained this

[misty mulch]

so, circling back, don't use chatgpt for this

[regal bolt]

Yeah. I said that this first step title was enough for me to give it up

[misty mulch]

ok, that's good

but that's also why everyone got mad instantly

it didn't recognise jack

[misty mulch]

ANYWAY i will leave you with: bones_koeff_protection = referring to a different nest of files for bone armor aka the actual armor value of an outfit. luckily for you i have been looking into it, here's the spreadsheet. you only care about section (this is what you put for bones_koeff_protection, and the body_armor value (bigger = better)

open this file in Excel/OpenOffice/Google Sheets

[random fulcrum]

can also make your custom bones sec that inherits from other profile just in case

and only edit the bip spine

[regal bolt]

Okay, but will you finally respond to the question I gave earlier about burn reasistances and the like?

[random fulcrum]

because that's the only one relevant for body bullet damage reduction in the adb

you'd be at mercy of machinegunners and helicopters tho

as those are not parsed by the adb

[regal bolt]

The static ones that are in cordon, Deserted hospital and the like?

[misty mulch]

elemental resistances are mercifully simple (we do not talk about rads or psy)

[regal bolt]

Or machineguns like the actual LMGs sin carries around?

[random fulcrum]

yeah

static mgs

[regal bolt]

(Shit. I actually need someone knowledgable about the rads)

[random fulcrum]

psy is simple enough tho

and is luckily done at script level

entirely

in arszi_psy

[regal bolt]

Okay. gonna take a peek

[random fulcrum]

rads is literally a subtraction

coming from armors and boosters

[regal bolt]

Gamma psy rework addon?

[random fulcrum]

idk dude look at the one that wins conflicts

[regal bolt]

What's the regeneration divider?

[random fulcrum]

read the script

search for terms

highlight the term and search in the file for other occurances of it

[regal bolt]

Just these two instances of this in the entire file

Maybe it's explained somewhere else...

I'mma take a look into the mod itself

No instructions, no readme, no nothing.

crap

I still have no idea what dictates telepatic_protection value for suits

Maybe it's a separate ltx file like the BR stats

[misty mulch]

it's the telepatic_protection = c_outfit(GetDefHitTypeProtection(HitTypeID["Telepatic"]) or 0 line. that means:

check the equipped outfit's config for the protection value, for damage type "telepatic". if you don't find the value, set it to 0

[regal bolt]

But the-

waaaait

Skats have no psy res by default...?

[random fulcrum]

idk you play the game

[regal bolt]

I'mma check the other ones to make sure

[misty mulch]

it's also possible there's some dltx somewhere that adds telepatic_protection to skats

as you have found out today, dltx files can be named almost anything

[regal bolt]

And here I am running in circles looking for it becuase I thought it was set by something else than the outfit config

[misty mulch]

which makes hunting them down a little difficult

well there you go

[regal bolt]

So it is from these exact files

[misty mulch]

well, that section, but yes

[regal bolt]

I meant the configs. Outfit configs

[misty mulch]

yeah i'm being pedantic - the "file" refers to the whole file, the "section" is "each part that begins with [some armor ID here]"

and yes it just comes back down to the protection values, defined in the armor's section, in the config file for that type of armor

[regal bolt]

Okay

Question

So numbers in this section follow "The bigger the better" or are they somehow calculated in a weird way?

Like the BR?

Also @random fulcrum if I don't touch the bones_koeff_protection will it fuck up anything?

(Current state to give info:)

[misty mulch]

fine and ignorable unless you want to fuck around with the armor's... armor value

[regal bolt]

The one against the machineguns and helis as momo earlier mentioned?

[misty mulch]

yes, but ignore that, since it's at least constant for everything. unless you REALLY care about these extremely rare damage sources, don't bother trying to come up with the exception for them

[regal bolt]

I won't I couldn't care less at the moment about those two specific damage types considering this armor is going to be my personal use, and I don't even have helis on

[misty mulch]

i'm not answering re: burn protection because i'm not 100% sure how elemental damage is calculated

[regal bolt]

Oh. That's fair

But as far as I can see all the values do seem indicative of the ingame stats

Like Freedom having the Skat with the best chem_burn_resistance ingame has the highest number in these stats

[misty mulch]

yeah, but in the case where i know i don't know the answer for sure, i'd rather give no info than a confident but wrong one

[regal bolt]

That's understandable

I just found a consistency.

[misty mulch]

i would say that is a pretty strong inference that "bigger is better" for the elemental resistances, yes

[regal bolt]

Freedom has the most in the stats at 15.8%, compared to most having less than 10% for chem_burn_res alone

[misty mulch]

bullet damage is just a constant special exception in terms of how that type of damage is handled. it's pretty much always the most intricate form of damage to calculate

and by "intricate" i mean "has special rules"

even ignoring the gamma code soup

[regal bolt]

Yeah. That's due to GBOOBS as we all know, but thanks for the walkthrough. That was like walking through hell

[misty mulch]

eh ballistic damage gets special treatment even in vanilla anomaly. gboobs takes outgoing ballistic damage to a silly level, but it's not like the concept was invented by grok there

[regal bolt]

But I get a basic grasp on it at least now

[regal bolt]

Are you serious?

[misty mulch]

don't look at gboobs inner workings to teach you what to do with armor values

[misty mulch]

100%, i am very familiar with this because of making the damage sim

[regal bolt]

I know. I should look at this and go from there

[misty mulch]

gboobs doesn't do anything about any form of damage dealt to the player

[misty mulch]

no, that won't teach you about how any of the damage systems work - that's just a list of raw inputs, it doesn't tell you what the game does with the inputs

doesn't even tell you what uses those raw inputs

[misty mulch]

the script file you need to read if you want to learn how incoming damage to the player is handled, is mainly grok_actor_damage_balancer.script

[regal bolt]

I meant "use this as a reference for BR classes and ballistic resistances"

[misty mulch]

oh yeah in that case that'll work just fine

[regal bolt]

if.shit = 0.85 ballistic cap is still kinda making me weirded out

or something like this

[misty mulch]

well, the philosophy of ADB is "the player should never be able to become 100% immune from any single source of damage"

that's why the cap exists.

[regal bolt]

this shit

[misty mulch]

from the top of the script:

Lots of hardcoded multiplier are used for the different damage sources so that even everything feels right

[regal bolt]

meanwhile psy and rad res

[misty mulch]

? adb accounts for psy damage?

same with rads?

[regal bolt]

I don't think so

[misty mulch]

it does

[regal bolt]

sorry. ADB being grok_actor_damage_balancer

Yeah.

[agile pond]

adb is lovely

[regal bolt]

OH WAIT

IT DOESN'T

[misty mulch]

yep. if you're making new armor, for the player, you don't care about GBOOBs

[regal bolt]

It's commented out for some reason

[misty mulch]

it does. line 658

[regal bolt]

Oh. Yeah. The grace period and stuff...

Wait, so what's this for then?

[regal bolt]

👆

[misty mulch]

presumably because that block of code was started from a template for every damage type in the game, and grok recognized that radiation works differently and therefore needed to be dealt with differently

[regal bolt]

template?

[misty mulch]

because you usually take rads as the result of "ambient" rads from standing in a field, rather than being hit with a "you take X points of radiation damage" attack

[misty mulch]

i mean template in the everyday sense.

[regal bolt]

Yeah...

[regal bolt]

I just didn't realize there were such for Anomaly

specifically for damage balancing mods

[misty mulch]

no i mean template in the sense of "i write one block of code that I need to repeat 12 times, so i copy paste it 12 times"

go lower tech than what you're imagining.

[regal bolt]

Oh. Okay XD

[regal bolt]

Burning brain intensifies

[misty mulch]

if you're hellbent on understanding how damage is applied to players, i really think you would benefit from doing a really basic coding concepts 101 - what is a function, what is a variable, what is an operator, what is an if/else statement at minimum

any basic coding course should be able to teach you that, if you wanna learn the scripting language used for Anomaly, find a coding course for Lua

[regal bolt]

Yeah. I feel I should grasp that first

Also

Is there a way to implement these visuals dropping one of two armors, not just a single armor?

[misty mulch]

what an excellent question that can only be answered by reading the death_manager script

[regal bolt]

Okay... I'mma read it

[misty mulch]

oh i was gonna offer to do the deciphering for you

[regal bolt]

Can't find anything in the 4k lines... Every single visual has exactly one armor and sometimes a helmet

I don't get it...

Should I just swap one of the existing visuals for the armor I want to inject?

[misty mulch]

well that would be because the "drop items on death" scripts cannot handle probabilities for outfit drops. either they drop the outfit, or they do not, and it cannot handle "out of this set of items, pick one"

[regal bolt]

Oh

[misty mulch]

now do you see what i mean? scripts = how the game works, configs = parameters that feed scripts

if the script cannot handle probabilities for drops, no amount of config editing can make that happen

you'd have to edit the script for how items dropping on death works

[regal bolt]

So I'd need to make a script that would make that possible?

Fuck...

I'll just replace one of the visuals to drop it then...

[agile pond]

There's so many visually similar models just take one and replace the drop

[regal bolt]

Yeah. That's what I'mma do

[misty mulch]

mmhmm. on that topic! https://www.codecademy.com/courses/learn-lua eta: boooo needs a subscription, NEVERMIND, idk just google "lua beginner course"

other courses are of course, available

[agile pond]

Don't forget to pull up the stalker modding guide and read a bit of that at the same time!

God anomaly lua is so cool

[misty mulch]

i'm actually doing that course myself lol

just real fast

i am more familiar w/ python but shit why not, if i learn lua i can also do project zomboid mods

[agile pond]

Same (not doing the course), learning python actually helped me a lot when it came to reading lua

[regal bolt]

True that

Also this would work you think?

Fairly rare I'd say

[misty mulch]

oh boo needs a free trial

[regal bolt]

Due to it being supposed to be a one time spawn per playthrough

Like the ACE

[misty mulch]

the ace actually has 8 models that spawn it lol

[regal bolt]

Are you serious?

[misty mulch]

so congrats yours will be 4x rarer than the ace

yes

[regal bolt]

Wow

[misty mulch]

oh uh also remember to make a dltx for this

filename should be mod_death_generic_whateverthehellyouwant.ltx

[misty mulch]

you probably aren't looking at the dltx override, mod_death_generic_g_a_m_m_a_no_integrated_helmets_in_armors.ltx

[regal bolt]

Yeah. Found them

[regal bolt]

not really sure

No

[misty mulch]

well fortunately i have the list

but again - don't edit the file directly. you need to make a DLTX file for this

otherwise your changes don't apply

[regal bolt]

Give me a minute. I'm trying to remember how to make a dltx

[agile pond]

Not too hard actually

(Modding guide ez)

[regal bolt]

Wait

Would these make sense to drop a modified Skat-9? (What do you think?)

Also this is so far what I got

[misty mulch]

DLTX files must be named in a specific format, to override the death_outfits file, your DLTX filename must be in the format:
mod_death_generic_whateverthehellyouwant.ltx

for safety's sake, put it where the other override is, i.e. filepath gamedata/configs/items/settings

[regal bolt]

oh. The generic part is neccessary

[misty mulch]

the entire beginning bit is mandatory

[regal bolt]

Okay

[misty mulch]

you can change whateverthehellyouwant lmao

uhh just make sure alphabetically, it starts with something that comes after the letter g

[regal bolt]

Like this?

[regal bolt]

Keeping the file structure accurate

[agile pond]

mod_

for dltx

[misty mulch]

it's also good practice to name the override something distinct so it's obvious where the file is coming from

[regal bolt]

So Geo_Skat-9?

Would work?

[misty mulch]

that works, geo comes after g_a if you sort alphabetically (...double check that though)

this is to make sure the game loads your dltx after the GAMMA override. the last loaded file, wins all conflicts

[misty mulch]

one more thing. the section name needs to match the section you're overwriting from the original file
so it should be ![outfit_by_visual]

[regal bolt]

I mean. All custom mods that are in use should be in the disabled category nonetheless for easy removal and winning all conflicts anyways...

[misty mulch]

no, because the override i showed you is part of vanilla gamma

[regal bolt]

Uhhh... It's section based?

[misty mulch]

this is not about MO2 load order

[regal bolt]

Oh

[misty mulch]

everything in configs is section based

[regal bolt]

Fuck

me

[misty mulch]

if you write ![death_outfits_generic_override] <-- that will lead to a crash when you start the game, probably saying something like "section marked as override but it doesn't exist, fuck you, i refuse to start"

[regal bolt]

XD

?

That looks good?

[misty mulch]

you've confused the filename for the section name

[regal bolt]

fuck

[misty mulch]

the section name is what needs to be ![outfits_by_visual]

and you're still missing mod_ from the beginning of the filename

[regal bolt]

where do I type this?

[regal bolt]

Instead of ![death_outfits_generic_geo_skat-9]:death_outfits

Oh

[regal bolt]

Sorry. My brain refuses to get more info in at this point

So does it now seem correct?

And where do I put that "mod_" thingy?

[misty mulch]

filename

in the front

[regal bolt]

like that?

[misty mulch]

yes

[regal bolt]

Wait

[misty mulch]

i would maybe suggest that, if you are confusing the content of a file for the name of a file, probably good to take like a 30m break

(i am assuming you did not delete .ltx at the end of that filename, too)

[regal bolt]

This is the section name that you meant?

[misty mulch]

yes, that is the section you are targeting for your overwrite

[regal bolt]

Oh. So it's
!["target section"]:"target filename"

[misty mulch]

when you do ![section name], you are telling the engine, "look for and overwrite an existing section that is called EXACTLY [section name]"

e.g. ![poopoopeepee] will tell the engine "look for and overwrite the existing section called [poopoopeepee]"

[misty mulch]

no, it's ![target section]:parent section

nothing to do with file names

[regal bolt]

Parent section is?

[misty mulch]

(also good practice not to use quotes if you're doing examples, because quotes mean something in programming languages)

[regal bolt]

They do?

[misty mulch]

the basis for the section.

[regal bolt]

What if the basis of it is the file?

[misty mulch]

yeah i'm going to refer you back to, maybe take a break by spending an hour doing a quick online Lua tutorial

[misty mulch]

no, it's whatever section is named as the parent

[regal bolt]

But there is no parent section to the [outfit_by_visual] section...

Unless I am misunderstanding something

[misty mulch]

i could have a file called blahblahblah.ltx set up like this:

[base_armor_section]
parameter_1 = value1
parameter_2 = value2
parameter_3 = value3

[fancy_armor]:base_armor_section -- the "parent" of fancy_armor is base_armor_section
parameter_2 = 90000000
-- the game will look at base_armor_section to "fill in" the missing parameters and their values

[parentless_section] -- this section has no parent, and therefore needs to define all parameters or bad shit might happen
parameter_1 = value_a
parameter_2 = value_b
parameter_3 = value_c

[misty mulch]

because it's optional

[regal bolt]

So this death_outfits is useless here...

[misty mulch]

yes

[regal bolt]

Oh...

I'm a fucking idiot

[last valve]

veerserif you wouldent to happen to know anything about this would you?

[misty mulch]

i work purely in configs and a little bit in reading scripts, and am fairly ignorant of all textures, sorry

[last valve]

sad

[misty mulch]

i'll be real: i also do not understand the question

[misty mulch]

contents look fine - what's the filename?

[last valve]

trying to find where the inventory icon textures for armours are in the unpacked files cant find them anywhere

[misty mulch]

does it have .ltx at the end

files don't work without the extension

[misty mulch]

you wanna know the anomaly default, or the gamma modpack default for it

[last valve]

anomaly default trying to find the icon for the heavy brown overcoat

[misty mulch]

do you know the item ID for the heavy brown overcoat

[last valve]

no how do i check that

[misty mulch]

faster for me to check its config than dig through the filelist

[misty mulch]

fire up the game, go to debug mode -> item spawner, find the armor, screenshot the tooltip

[last valve]

gotcha thanks

[regal bolt]

So just so I get it right

Filename:
mod_(target file)_generic_(mods name).ltx
for configs?

[regal bolt]

...Why?

Not gonna question. Let me load it up

[last valve]

making a ned kelly armour mod with a medium and a heavy version the medium is just gonna be the metal armour piece itself and the heavy is gonna include the heavy brown overcoat on it too my idea is making the medium version be like the steel helmet in terms of stats and then having the heavy version be a bit more protective of anomalous stuff

[misty mulch]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/addons/dltx.html

mod_[Root File Name]_[Mod Suffix].ltx
[Root File Name may or may not bear any relation to the filename of the config file. It's why your DLTX for the Skat-9 configs is mod_system_(modname goes here).ltx, not mod_o_skat_9_(modname goes here).ltx

i'll be honest: just copy the name format from an existing dltx that does what you're trying to do

in this case we just copy the filename structure from GAMMA's outfit drop DLTX file

[regal bolt]

filename structure. Let me see

[misty mulch]

the way the computer reads and understand files, is not the same as how we read and understand the files

[misty mulch]

you can't intuit this one, the accepted method is to use a special tool to figure it out

[misty mulch]

because the other way is to blindly dig through the config files and pray you can recognize the item ID on sight, the way you got lucky with the skat-9

this is not guaranteed - the item ID for the TOZ-194 is wpn_wincheaster1300

so good luck trying to figure that one out without knowing it in advance

[misty mulch]

cool, spawn it and try to wear it and see if it doesn't crash you out

[regal bolt]

I already loaded in with it on me

Even upgraded

[misty mulch]

well, next thing to test is the outfit drop

there's just one problem

[regal bolt]

The only file I changed since the last opening of the game tbh

[misty mulch]

the NPC spawn IDs are not the same as their visual profile name

[regal bolt]

That means?

[misty mulch]

you'll be blindly guessing which NPC spawn matches the visual profiles that you set to drop your new armor

[regal bolt]

I know skat9 soldiers spawn in the advanced/vet section pretty often, or I can just kill a respawned peregrine for it

[misty mulch]

i mean if you're certain fire up the object spawner and spawn some npcs

[regal bolt]

Not really. Once it drops I can get_info off of the corpse right>?

[misty mulch]

god speed

[misty mulch]

uh, no

[regal bolt]

?

[misty mulch]

or i mean

that only helps you if the game deigns to spawn one of those models for you

which is a lot of fucking work to test something out

[regal bolt]

I know

[misty mulch]

the usual process is to just force the game to spawn that exact npc type

[regal bolt]

You don't have to tell me

[misty mulch]

right, so, work smart not hard

figure out where the file for mapping npc spawn ids to visuals is, ctrl-f for one of the models you set, spawn that in

[regal bolt]

Okay. Share your wisdom man, How do I spawn "Specific" NPCs

[misty mulch]

see above, object spawner

spawn by id. or ig if you set it to drop off peregrine specfically you could always follow the !npc guide

ignoring the smart terrain part since you're just gonna shoot him and don't need him to be moving

[regal bolt]

where the file for mapping npc spawn ids to visuals is How do I do that?

[regal bolt]

True

Spawn by section: mechanic_army_yan_mlr_squad
Select level: I08_yantar/
Select Smart: yan_smart_terrain_6_4/```
Got it lol

[misty mulch]

somewhere in dux's character kit

[regal bolt]

Spawn by section?

[misty mulch]

instructions are in the file