╓☢stalker-chat

[stark wyvern]

there will be one soon

0.9.5

[rocky jewel]

I just spray hydra-shock in their direction, sometimes works out

[mint fractal]

Eggselent

[valid loom]

Well that too yeah

[short plume]

this, i usually just press a/d +space, and they overshoot, then they get HP in the back of the head, KGB style

[weary idol]

diagonal movement tends to upset their pathfinding

[mint fractal]

I find that a liberal application of KSG-23 solves all Chimera-related problems

[weary idol]

honestly i just kill chimeras with axes on my non ironman saves to save on ammo

[rocky jewel]

Been killing so many military to get a KSG-23, want it so bad XD

[weary idol]

its insanely easy to kite them when you learn how

[mint fractal]

That's some DOOM level shit

[valid loom]

Or just slugs, KS-23 ammo does hit harder tho

[weary idol]

I always get mine from stashes ngl lol

[rocky jewel]

Southern or Northern?

[weary idol]

yeah there are way more dangerous mutants, like the fracture....

[short plume]

SIN best faction to kill for it, theres two spots in red forest i farm em

[weary idol]

the fracture is the only melee mutant i have problems with anymore

[rocky jewel]

I am trying to find one in the Southern zones right now before I move up

[weary idol]

cordon usually

its a B tier

[valid loom]

Its not impossible ngl, also done it on pseudogiants before

[short plume]

i have all 3 versions in my current save

[valid loom]

Tho I havent really tried knifing a blood/psysucker ngl

[rocky jewel]

yeah the military checkpoint in Cordon was where I got it the first time, currently there now hoping I get lucky XD

[weary idol]

bloodsuckers are easy to strafe but cuz their hitbox is small they're harder to fight with melee

plus they die in like

2 shotgun shots

[mint fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/war-1000-yard-stare-gif-10147302364842942579

[valid loom]

[weary idol]

fractures and cats are the only mutants who have ended my ironman runs lol

[valid loom]

I hate those things

[rocky jewel]

oooooooh shit, I might have to run that, looks like fun

[short plume]

if you want one almost guaranteed , do this:

get yourself a decent rifle, scoped best but not critical
get a good amount of ammo for said rifle
meds + decent armor a must, get a good mask

now heres the fun bit
get a guide to Jupiter / Yanov station
travel to the red forest via the southern exit from Jupiter
outside of forester's building theres a minecart, (the one with a stash in it)
once you get to the red forest SPRINT for it and jump in, (ledge grab mod works wonders here)
you can just barely headpeak over the side of the minecart, and itll protect you from most of sin's bullshit

if you dont get the KS-23 there, head over to the tunnel camp (where sin hides)
theres a minecart right at the opening of the tunnel, do the same there, shoot in their direction to get em to come over

[rocky jewel]

Yeah I am just being stubborn, I want to get it before I do brain scorcher to advance into the northern zones, I could use the normal one but I want the extra capacity of the KSG-23 XD

[short plume]

wait are we talking about the same gun here?
KS-23?
KSG?

this?

[rocky jewel]

I have the KS-23 but I prefer the Saiga over it, what I WANT is the KSG-23

which is a higher magazine capacity KS-23

[short plume]

oh?

[rocky jewel]

yeah they added it a little while ago and after I saw it in the notes I had to have it, hang on a second

KSG-23
Military
Veteran / Expert / Master / Legend

Bandit // Duty // Ecologist // Loner
Master / Legend

Sin
Professional / Veteran / Expert / Master / Legend

Monolith
Master

it has an 11 round capacity if I recall

I usually farm Military for it

and it still shoots Shrapnel

[short plume]

damn, ive only got the 4-rounders, then again, if it doesnt die from 4 rounds of 23mm shrapnel, ive got VOG-25s

[rocky jewel]

I am not particularly accurate in this game so the extra capacity is a must XD

[short plume]

kek, actually on the subject of accuracy, i wish there were a breath hold mod, i keep pressing shift in scoped guns thinking it does something

like ill be prone on the ground, and scope shakes around a bunch

[rocky jewel]

there is I'm pretty sure

[short plume]

oh?

[rocky jewel]

think it might be alt though

dont quote me on that

[short plume]

ill check when i get in later, ill have a look at keybinds, i have low crouch set to alt lol'

[rocky jewel]

you could always download Weapon Sway on Moddb

if not

[tranquil eagle]

Why oh why are psy snorks a thing. Seriously, I just want to get down an elevator shaft

[atomic pebble]

Izloms should have more abilities, are weak

[jagged axle]

fimally i can msg here

as a lesbian im very proud

[vivid ridge]

who has the best prices for mutant parts (not meat)

[short plume]

butcher i think, maybe sakharov too, but butcher easiest to get to imo

[rose musk]

technically collection quests for other stalkers

but scientists mostly

[short plume]

this, i usually stash parts in a box, and wait for a quest

heres 52 chimera skins i prepared earlier

[vivid ridge]

I always have more than quests ask for.

[rose musk]

I tend to stash around 10 of each part/meat at all times

unless i'm hurting for cash and they offer a quest for something like a psuedogiant arm

easy 6-10k

[vernal ermine]

Beans

[short plume]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-bean-me-up-scotty-baked-beans-gif-24562100

[vernal ermine]

More beans

[short plume]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-kid-pork-and-beans-beans-gif-19099849

[hushed pier]

Bro.....

[short plume]

even the Xray engine can look beautiful sometimes

[limpid lagoon]

You guys used the artifact harvester yet? Just curious how it works

[short plume]

the melter?

[random grail]

Harvester which lets you to use artefacts to generate stuff

It's on dev2 currently

[short plume]

o, nar havent, sounds cool tho

what like it can generate loot?

[quasi lance]

is there any way to get the picture-in-picture 3dss to work on gamma ?

[random grail]

Shit like batteries,meat or even other artefacts if you place death lamp inside it

[short plume]

damn

[limpid lagoon]

What is dev2?

Is that a specific build?

[random grail]

Beta branch

[limpid lagoon]

Do you opt into that to use the artifact melter?

[frank oxide]

https://github.com/DoktorDauerfeuer/Anomaly-hf-Gadgets-GAMMA-For-Hideout-Furniture/tree/main you can just get the harvester on your own

[limpid lagoon]

@frank oxide - thank you - very interested in trying it out

[hushed pier]

@frank oxide question how does grok pick out mods to add for next build, like i see this new addition #1496147496823558266 no reason for it not to be added

[frank oxide]

#📎to-do and #📎mods-added-for-next-build are just a wishlist, its entries of "maybe it'll be added" but more often than not its just left there to make people believe its gonna be added

[ripe lagoon]

nah I prefer current sfx, I might be biased though

[frank oxide]

its anyone's guess what the metric for addition is

some mods get recommended, others he just sees on moddb/mods-posting and adds to the bottomless pit

[short plume]

honestly i think the thing i want the most in GAMMA is a building expansion
Rostok feels way bigger than it is, its a tiny map, but theres a bunch of cool buildings just outside the playable area
same with Yantar, tons of sheds and factories with locked doors
Why cant we get into every room of the Skadovsk?
the ranger station in zaton, again, tons of sheds and factory floors, all locked
even if these buildings had basic interiors, it would spice up the maps a ton

[hushed pier]

no one knows the metric lol after all this time? haha that's funny, ill tell you this tho the mans got a vision that I trust

[tall root]

does anyone know a good ui mod in the same vain as enhanced graphical user interface by INC?

[limpid lagoon]

@short plume - I would welcome any mods that allowed for more building options

[frank oxide]

expanded/fixed maps is cooking

dw

[weary idol]

Hm?

Curious about that

[dark hemlock]

huh, that sounds nice

[weary idol]

Its also a huge shame that dead city's apartments dont count as safe

[short plume]

yeah, i try every playthrough to find a good place to set up a hideout, and i pick rostok or dead city if im a merc
close second is the factory in dark valley (for bandit)
look im not saying i should be able to get into every apartment in pripyat
but less locked doors would be nice for a bunch of the maps

[weary idol]

They're my favorite places to base

[frank oxide]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1330313679949795329

[short plume]

sleep without shelter mod, had a good place in dead city a couple playthroughs ago

also theres that abandoned house on the south west side of the map near the fence, good place too

[frank oxide]

addon to open up areas of the map previously considered as "out of bounds"

it also includes stuff like stairs collision fix anywhere it was possible to do

[weary idol]

Yeah but the apartments are cooler....

Seeing your base's campfire lit through the window

Is p cool

[dark hemlock]

damn this look amazing

[weary idol]

Squatting in a random house is boring to me

[dark hemlock]

Imagine if someone got these new maps working with New Levels

GAMMAnthology 🔥

i'll definitely try my luck

[short plume]

i mean its doable, look at Darkscape, Meadow, Truck cemetery, Generators, these were all added in CoC, (meadow was added in either Last-day or Anomaly i dont rember i am rarted)

[frank oxide]

there is a port of an expanded meadows as a planned addition

[dark hemlock]

yeah, i was thinkin bout that

[short plume]

yae

[dark hemlock]

unnecessary large open world is a instant neuron activation for me

[ripe lagoon]

do you even know if relax wants his mods in gamma
he doesn't seem to be a fan, to put it nicely

[weary idol]

Context?

[short plume]

i mean just more places to set up a camp / stash spot
dont get me wrong, i love the maps in stalker, but sometimes i just wish there were less locked doors

[weary idol]

Honestly stalker doesnt really have environmental looting like that outside of stashes anyway so it doesnt affect me nearly as much, so when i am able to actually go in all those apartments in dead city's its fun

But imagine if the dead city's apartments actually had considerable loot, it would be torture

[hushed pier]

"I People will not pay money for my mods or the opportunity to play with them! My modifications were, are and always will be free and available to everyone"

nah idk

[short plume]

totally agree, dead city's apartments are great, imagine if limansk had the same level of explorability

[rocky jewel]

I can deal with the locked doors, what I really want is a seamless open world map with all the areas as one

[hushed pier]

Im getiting the message thats its fine?

from his rethoric but a direct question

would be better

[short plume]

https://tenor.com/view/paintnet-gif-3988273812756336542

[weary idol]

Ngl limansk and dead city's could prob be one map

[rocky jewel]

will be the drive needed for better CPU inovation.. like a multi processor motherboard

gonna crossfire my CPU XD

[weary idol]

Limansk already is in a weird spot, being post radar but not really having a point beyond a few quests you wont need to do past BS

[short plume]

i mean an alt route into Jupiter is nice, unless you want to deal with monolit and sin in red forest or go through radar and pripyat

far easier to snipe monolit at the gastronom, then snipe em at the bridge and walk (dance) into the bandit camp

[weary idol]

You already gotta deal with monolith in limansk

The only difference is limansk has practically nothing else

Its just one long dungeon

With red forest you at least get a couple anomalies and micro dungeons, with a small checkpoint if you're just passing through, same with radar

But with limansk its JUST the dungeon

[short plume]

oh that checkpoint in red forest tho, the one at foresters tower, that sucks to clear from the south, unless you gave a GL

[weary idol]

Meh ive never had issues with it

All the enemies get funneled through the same gate

And radar is just a stroll compared to that

[short plume]

yeah, radar is just one big road that you can pick monolith off at range at

[weary idol]

Ill still go through limansk simply because its harder but it does suck theres basically no reward for it, beyond mid tier monolith loot

It needs some love

I will give it that (at least before the construction yard) its a very fun map combat wise

[short plume]

i usually just run up to the construction site, get them to chase me, then i hide in a bus and shoot em

[atomic pebble]

Even merged, both Bar and Rostok are small

[short plume]

actually on that note, wild territory could do with the same treatment

[weary idol]

I mean that i get at least, supposed to be a universal safe place (unless you're enemies with duty obv)

[short plume]

plus rostok is very central, good place to hold up for deploying anywhere, especially doing quests that send you like everywhere

[atomic pebble]

ew

Anthology has a lot of maps that aren't good

[short plume]

im looking at you Last dawn, making me go all the way to outskirts then back to the swamps like there isnt 3km of zone and scorch-brains in my way

[atomic pebble]

Meadow is from MLR 6, that was included in Last Day and from where Anomaly taked some smart terrains

[dark hemlock]

one mans trash is another ones treasure

[atomic pebble]

Nah

[dark hemlock]

I tolerate Darkscape hating it

[atomic pebble]

Limansk it's ok without Dead City

[dark hemlock]

rather live with it

[short plume]

yeah nice, i just remember playing CoM, then hearing about this great new CoC mod, downloading last day and being like, wtf is this place?

[dark hemlock]

than without it

[atomic pebble]

Both are two different scales of quality in different senses

Dead City Final has the best Limansk released until now (not the best, but the best released), has a lot of undergrounds, a few-few-few open interiors and Radar it's enhanced

[weary idol]

Def my least favorite map (if we ignore like the actually fucked maps)

But either a smaller limansk merged with dead city, or a limansk overhaul with proper faction presence would be nice

[atomic pebble]

https://klipy.com/gifs/raiken-cat

[weary idol]

Cuz in a normal playthru basically only mercs go thru limansk

[short plume]

damn that looks sick, especially the radio station

[short plume]

"alternate merc relations" a great mod, never made sense to me why mercs hate loners..

[atomic pebble]

There a big limansk rework in development, and Limansk from Terra Incognita is the peak of the map but UNreleased😔

[short plume]

i got it in my playthrough, i walk through dead city, pick up a few contracts, then walk through limansk

[atomic pebble]

a bit of the undergrounds

[weary idol]

I mean im fine with it, makes mercs way more interesting to play as

[atomic pebble]

Darkscape from NET Online is the best Darkscape that i've seen until now

[short plume]

yeah, plus made playing loners great (farm wild territory for NATO weapons)

[weary idol]

I assume its just "mercs are either enemies with loners and friends with bandits or vice versa" whoever pays them the most

And also gameplay reasons

[short plume]

D A M N

GROK ADD THIS SHIT HOLY

[weary idol]

Mercs with friendly loners is not fun at all in the south, and loners with friendly mercs makes wild territory 0 threat

[rocky jewel]

be really fun if you just made all factions hostile to eachother and then nowhere would be safe, that would be intense, one of my favorite play throughs was as a bandit

[rain nova]

IIRC somebody is paying them to kill loners, idr where I heard that from though

[atomic pebble]

Never expect any map-changes made by him

[rocky jewel]

I might have to do a monolith run at some point

[dark hemlock]

the true Limansk is the friends we made along the way

[atomic pebble]

At max HailTheMonolith making more Expanded Maps updates

[rain nova]

it might be the military? who knows

[atomic pebble]

https://m.vk.ru/@stalknetonline-dnevnik-razrabotchikov-temnaya-loschina
U should read the article about it

[ripe lagoon]

there are many modders who aren't fond of grok in particular

[dark hemlock]

they can't stop me from dreaming

[short plume]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-feel-i-know-that-feel-feel-with-it-hugs-gif-5686290

[weary idol]

Spill the tea sis

(Its his obsession with freezoom)

[dark hemlock]

fr, there's a lot of GAMMA haters out there lol

[atomic pebble]

The best Limansk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FnLlF2Wuzg&t=3s
Such masterpiece remains in nothing

[hushed pier]

it is what it is

[atomic pebble]

several maps should get remakes or complete reworks

[hushed pier]

idk the grok lore i can only see the result

[dark hemlock]

they can hate on GAMMA and Grok, but the truth is

they can't fight change

[hushed pier]

why would they hate lol

dont get the gamma hate

honestly

[dark hemlock]

too tacticool, "uh gotta gatekeep 2008 trilogy "

i've seen plenty of examples

[sick yoke]

Every time I think about gamma changes I thank god that people successfully bullied grok into not adding a blackout rng state if you got headshot with a gasmask on

[dark hemlock]

seems like all communities are the same lol

[short plume]

neither, ive played a bunch of stalker mods over the years, gamma has to be my fav so far

[dark hemlock]

it's FUN

like, really fun, it's so fun you don't even try to care about most of the issues

and free lol

[hushed pier]

not the hardcore audiences who gotta stay original man i hate those

fun police

[dark hemlock]

as a RE fan, bro I feel this on a spiritual level lol

absolute retarded kind of person

[short plume]

yeah, the thing i like the most tho is the customisation, dont like x mod? uninstall it, want y mod? go load it in mo2 (and crash then go to #🔨modded-gamma-support)

[halcyon quail]

a lot of people dont like gamma because they dont consider it stalker and this can be seen how gamma attracted many people who never palyed any stalker game before

[dark hemlock]

It gets me riled up just thinkin about them lol

[atomic pebble]

The maps of Terra Incognita, Back To The Stalker, New Project and Lost World are great, Lost World has the best Rostok because is not Rostok anymore

[dark hemlock]

I would get it if GAMMA was a substitute for other Stalker games

but they can still play the trilogy any time they want

[hushed pier]

bro i played many games and modded them, there is always the fun police lore police

not fun to be around

those

[dark hemlock]

GAMMA is a separate thing, and it's really fun at what it does

[halcyon quail]

literally this

[dark hemlock]

yeah, absolutely insufferable

checking youtube comments on any stalker video that isn't "too lore accurate" is a pain

[halcyon quail]

yeah its just these people have these sorts of opinion just to be different and to have an opinion
also you cant expect everyone to 100% like gamma but to consider their opinions to be objective is delulu

[short plume]

Zaton with normal water level isnt real, it cant hurt you
Zaton with normal water level:

[dark hemlock]

oooh yes, I 100% get those who don't really like it because of preference

[atomic pebble]

None wants "too lore accurate", even in SoC there inconsistencies

[dark hemlock]

But most of the time, I always see folk complaining just because "too much change, gonna kill stalker"

[atomic pebble]

I really want that map, it will have Army Warehouses and it will be much more industrial-ish than the other versions

Zaton but good

[halcyon quail]

Theres really no definition even stalker 2 failed to define it

[dark hemlock]

and worst of all, they will scold your sorry ass if you tell them you play GAMMA lol

[rain nova]

I think hating GAMMA is on the same level as like... hating Starsector mods that happen to have a different art style (IE sorta anime esque stuff) for the portraits

[dark hemlock]

how dare people play what they want

[rain nova]

as in it's really, really silly

[crisp turret]

GAMMA is lore accurate. It's just pocket dimension that we got trapped in after some dumbfuck rookie walked into that anomaly don't you guys remember ?

[atomic pebble]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1104656781315162183/1471894980283994265/HA_4eRZakAALTFy.gif

[dark hemlock]

exactly, and it's fine by me

[rain nova]

the zone eats your guns if you try to sell them, sorry

[dark hemlock]

real-life has consistent lore and it sucks ass

[rain nova]

UN aligned anomaly

[dark hemlock]

so i'm good with it lol

[atomic pebble]

but that's different😞

[hushed pier]

Lore accurate these nutz man

[sick yoke]

I mean, gamma does try to emulate tarkov a lot more than stalker so I can see where people come from with the “it changes too much” claim

[dark hemlock]

thankfully it aint official, god bless dedicated communities and modding talent

canon stalker still feels like stalker

it's peak too

I like having both

[hushed pier]

i love the realism of tarkov mixed with the fantasy world of anomaly

peak combo

[dark hemlock]

bruh it's EXACTLY that

it itches a very specific scratch in my brain lol

[sick yoke]

And then there’s a good chunk of people who just don’t like the people clickbaiting gamma to hell and back

[dark hemlock]

dark post-apocalypse fantasy + whole lot of psychopaths + a shitton of guns with complex mechanics

[short plume]

main thing is, there are gatekeepers in every fandom, just cause people shit on metallica's black album doesnt mean i cant enjoy it, same with games i think

[sick yoke]

Cough cough “the game that doesn’t fake survival”

[ripe lagoon]

idk the grok lore myself

[halcyon quail]

but at the end of the day this is all subjective
you cant expect everyone have the same opinion neither all you can do is accept some people like it and others just like the goofiness of the old games and if they wanted to play tarkov they can play tarkov

[dark hemlock]

yeah, it's funny because they are all the same

we could get two completely different games with different ideas

and compare the gatekeepers of each

[atomic pebble]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R is more of a somehow of apocalypse-vibes but either is the apocalypse in the entire world

[dark hemlock]

they would be clones of eachother

[dark hemlock]

yeah, thanks for phrasing it better

[rocky jewel]

Minecraft and Terraria, go

[dark hemlock]

the rest of the world is doin fine

just Chernobyl that is beyond screwed

[dark hemlock]

lmao true

[rain nova]

I've never really understood the people that ask "how do I turn off the mutants/anomalies?"

[atomic pebble]

U should play Grim Raid

[rain nova]

because in my opinion they don't detract from the "realism" at all

[rocky jewel]

they just want an open world PVE tarkov

[rain nova]

and them not being there certainly wouldn't make the game any more fun

[hushed pier]

I dont get gatekeepers bro like let people do what they want. Like they are authoratarian in subjective matters

[dark hemlock]

Yeah, it's funny lol, but they have that choice too

I personally wish there were more mutants

like, a ridiculous amount of them

[atomic pebble]

Em want tarkov but em are poor (?

[dark hemlock]

Re:done did it for me to a extent

[rain nova]

like, yeah, they don't exist, but you can have magic and still play it ENTIRELY straight, which Stalker does

[dark hemlock]

still not enough

[sick yoke]

people who ask that genuinely just want tarkov but free lol

which to be fair i can kind of understand

[dark hemlock]

understandable

[weary idol]

Shitkiv shit anyway

[sick yoke]

i would never pay $80 for tarkov + pve

[short plume]

i mean if its following roadside picnic's idea of the disaster
yes, Harmont / the Zone are Fucked, pure chaos, you will die if you fuck about
but the rest of the world isnt just fine, its Thriving because of it
Artifacts with great abilities are being studied, new medicines / cures, new tech, all that

[dark hemlock]

paying for tarkov sounds depressing tbf

[weary idol]

Yes

[dark hemlock]

GAMMA isn't a scam at least

and it's good

[hushed pier]

i got tarkov EOD, gamma 10 times more fun

[weary idol]

Its a scam but in a different way

[dark hemlock]

at least i'll be happy while getting ballstomped

lol

tarkov is just... misery

[atomic pebble]

ew, more respect to tarkov

[weary idol]

Tarkov is the 2nd best example of why the extraction shooter formula is inherently shit

With the 1st being arc radiers

[dark hemlock]

gotta tell that to the executives man

[rain nova]

maybe it's just because of where we are, but in Stalker it seems like everything is just being put into military tech

[dark hemlock]

i don't agree 100% but I get it

[hushed pier]

Just found a random knot btw

[weary idol]

Pay 160 more dollars bro its totally the last dlc

[rain nova]

like the exoskeletons and railguns and brain scorcher

[dark hemlock]

it's a cool formula, but ridiculously saturated

[weary idol]

E.g arc raiders is barely an extraction shooter but is the most popular (in my opinion)

[rain nova]

and also the C-Con

[dark hemlock]

the problem is the gaming industry, every formula is amazing until people saturate the market with it just to jump on trends

[weary idol]

Tarkov is the father of the genre but i only ever see people play the pve anymore atp

[rain nova]

but that's also not great

[hushed pier]

I wanted a refund man cuz of the shit optimization but those damn russian

[weary idol]

Hard disagree

[hushed pier]

they dont care

[rocky jewel]

Its perfectly fine for masochists, but for those that value their time I feel like Extraction shooters and even surrogate ones like Rust, Scum etc are terrible games

[weary idol]

Formulas can be inherently flawed

[sick yoke]

what do you mean you want pve included with your $150 version of the game that claimed to include all dlcs????? pve is NOT a dlc!!!!!!

[rocky jewel]

Arc Raiders is made even worse by the fact it's a third person shooter

[weary idol]

Yes its an inherently bad formula, there are games that can be good, but its inspite of the formula

[weary idol]

3PS is perfectly fine bro...

[dark hemlock]

I understand your point of view, honestly

[weary idol]

Im glad we're past the "skill issue" phase of hand waving any scamkov criticism

[weary idol]

Charge your phone

[dark hemlock]

It has potential in the right hands

[atomic pebble]

U should wait Stalker 2 Old Concept, it will have a big completely open world map of +- 6 square KM
And u should see this shit

[dark hemlock]

I see it kind of this way

[rocky jewel]

It is charged

nah I know alot of people like 3PS, I just think for PVP it feels bad

[hushed pier]

nah its annoying, at least in 1st person if they can see u can see them

[weary idol]

Everything does i agree, but games like arc raiders are good in-spite of the extraction shooter formula, not because of it

[hushed pier]

but if u can ignore that

[rocky jewel]

peekers advantage is.. uegh

[weary idol]

I do not see how that it is different at all in 3rd person lol

[weary idol]

Its a mutual advantage,,,,, and the TTK is already high

[dark hemlock]

😩

[hushed pier]

Its a good game but gamma is just better

[rocky jewel]

3rd person you can see people coming from behind cover and just ambush them its terrible.. you can make the argument "you let your guard down" but like you said TTK is high so it wont matter

[hushed pier]

until i get bored of gamma

[weary idol]

Theres basically 0 chance you'll see someone before you hear them in arc raiders anyway, unless they're ratting which is a problem way worse in fps games than 3ps

[dark hemlock]

gotta play S2 again

[weary idol]

Well completely different genre but sure i guess

[dark hemlock]

Game must be wayy more polished than the last time I checked

[weary idol]

Skill issue

[rocky jewel]

yeah you cant compare gamma to arc

[weary idol]

Learn to play 3ps

[atomic pebble]

https://www.dezowave.com/stalker-2-old-concept/

[rocky jewel]

lol there it is

[dark hemlock]

still enjoyed it despite the whole shitton of flaws in it, S2 will age like wine

[rocky jewel]

stalker 2 will age I feel like milk

[weary idol]

Yeah and??? Its a different skillset to fps, that does not make it worse

It just makes you inexperienced

[dark hemlock]

Hard disagree

[weary idol]

Literally nothing to be ashamed of

[weary idol]

Hard agree

Ue5

The rot is at the core of the game and cant be fixed

[atomic pebble]

I wish that Cooling Towers, Iron Forest, Lesser Zone and also Limansk be ported to X-Ray Engine

[hushed pier]

i dont play games based on genre its based on fun amount

lol

[weary idol]

..thats basically saying the same thing, everyone has genre preferences

[atomic pebble]

Another Side will have 4 big maps of 4 square KM (as minimum) each one

[hushed pier]

no cuz if there was a more fun game in diff genre i would play it

[weary idol]

Ok play nuclear reactor operator x

[dark hemlock]

definitely not everyone, some people join the fun police just for the fun of it

[drifting temple]

The only good video game is Crackdown

[weary idol]

Its objectively more fun than tarkov

[dark hemlock]

for the love of the game

[weary idol]

[weary idol]

As in : the determiner of what you find fun is inherently linked with genre preference, among other things

[atomic pebble]

This is a old version of Quiet Zaton, the biggest map of the game, is + 4 times bigger than vanilla Zaton

[weary idol]

Genre preference is just what im talking about right now

[rocky jewel]

yeah I hate to agree but they're right, Arc is objectively more fun than Tarkov if you can get past the 3rd person aspect as a First Person shooter preference

[dark hemlock]

as long as folk don't try beefing with me because of what I play, it's alright lol

[rocky jewel]

I love Tarkov but.. man they dropped the ball.. and I think after 10 years of development on the same game has the devs burned out and just not as passionate anymore

[weary idol]

I have no illusions that the people who enjoy mario maker 2 are not guarunteed to find arc raiders fun, its not an objective metric unlike genre

[rocky jewel]

which is fair honestly

[weary idol]

Honestly the only thing holding it up from an outsider's perspective is its the only game that really leaned into gun nut culture while still being a game

[rocky jewel]

no matter what they do everyone seems to find the worst in it which has gotta take its toll

[rocky jewel]

that was my main attraction to the game

[weary idol]

Like im sure if we had ready or not but as a proper shooter like stalker / tarkov / whatever then tarkov would lose a huge amount of it's fanbase

[rocky jewel]

I spent more time in the stash customizing guns than I did anything else really

[weary idol]

Me with armored core

[rocky jewel]

imagine Tarkovs weapon and customization system implemented into Gamma

[weary idol]

Tarkov lost the plot, they tricked themselves into thinking people played their game for the game

[rocky jewel]

I would bust so hard you could use it as spackle

[weary idol]

Yeah why do uou think gamma is so attractive to tarkov players already

[rain nova]

false
if you like having your balls put in a vice tarkov will be more fun to you

[hushed pier]

aint that impossible

[weary idol]

To me^

[weary idol]

If only... if only....

[dark hemlock]

they can't stop us from dreaming

[weary idol]

If only s2 wasnt ue5

[hushed pier]

i mean what would be needed to do that?

[rain nova]

it's probably not impossible but you'd need to put in a fuckton of work

[weary idol]

Not be xray engine

[weary idol]

Possible but not practical

[rain nova]

and maybe use some brute force solutions

[hushed pier]

cant u mod xray engine tho?

[rain nova]

it'd probably be very jank

[dark hemlock]

can't wait for tacticool nuclear simulator to enter it's prime 😩

[rocky jewel]

Its the perfect combination for me.. a PVE setting with an open world and cool shit like anomalies, awesome guns.. and progression system that keeps you going and feels rewarding its probably why despite the 100s of hours I have played I have spent maybe 5 hours total in a northern zone above army warehouse or dead city, I always restart for the struggle

[weary idol]

Im not a modder dont ask me lol, just going off what other modders have said

[weary idol]

Hear me out
Stalker but with mechs

[drifting temple]

They should add soft body physics to X-ray engine

[rocky jewel]

like I know the southern zone like the back of my hand but anywhere in the northern zone I literally have absolute zero experience

[dark hemlock]

well, considering engine limitations and what we got already, I have faith

[weary idol]

I know what you are

[rain nova]

closest thing I can think of is Beta Decay and it really isn't "stalker but with mechs"

[dark hemlock]

stalker modders are miracle workers fr

[rocky jewel]

if only Mechwarrior would, I mean MW5 was pretty good but an open world mechwarrior game would slap

[rain nova]

it just has some elements similar to stalker and has mechs

[weary idol]

Beta decay is 10000% EA slop

0 chance its good im sorry

[dark hemlock]

saying xray engine is dated is a understatement

[hushed pier]

just make stalker 2 like gamma

[weary idol]

Its older than most people here nhl

[dark hemlock]

fr lmao

[hushed pier]

which modpack is that

[rain nova]

true!

[weary idol]

Beta decay is not a mod pack

[dark hemlock]

I was 5yo when xray released

[weary idol]

UNC

[dark hemlock]

Old as fuck

[weary idol]

Lol

[dark hemlock]

older than jurrasic engine is truly ancient status 🔥🔥

[weary idol]

UncSLOP

[rain nova]

it's got a vibe

[dark hemlock]

still lived through the prime of gaming

[hushed pier]

they copying the gamma?

[dark hemlock]

i'm happy with that

glad because it happened 😩

[weary idol]

Games dont work on vibes alone unfortunately, unless its stalker ofc

[weary idol]

No lmfao its not stalker its a game

[atomic pebble]

when the old-school modders be gone this community barely will have good mods

[rocky jewel]

well.. they dont work for long anyways, Stalker is quite unique in that aspect, we love punishment in our own way, some more than others coughinvictuscough

[weary idol]

Invictus dead!!!

[dark hemlock]

fr lol

[rocky jewel]

yes that does tend to be what happens XD

[atomic pebble]

There a lot of vasyans, most of the good modmakers are "old-school"

[rocky jewel]

I just wish the devs didnt force DLSS on stalker 2 like that.. completely ruined the game for me, couldnt move around with some form of ghosting

without*

[hushed pier]

all modern game realease unfinished

or a lot of them

[graceful fulcrum]

"and! You will own nothing!"

[weary idol]

At least my king KCD2 didnt

[graceful fulcrum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/802276003598434334/1159221161444507790/FzGUNByXgAYOJwa.gif

[hushed pier]

for a split second i thought

...

[rocky jewel]

no in this case the game released with the OPTION to turn on DLSS if you wanted more frames.. but then the devs decided to remove that so you HAVE to have some sort of DLSS or FSR, XESS etc. and if you remove it manually through files it basically destroys the game

[hushed pier]

ark flashbacks

intensify

[weary idol]

We should like lynch game devs who think TAA is good

[rocky jewel]

I guess in a sense thats basically the same thing as releasing unfinished though since they made it mandatory in order to increase its performance

[rocky jewel]

castrate the ones that make it mandatory

[weary idol]

Im sorry but theres a reason why old games have stood up graphically

And why modern games dont

And its because whenever i try to play stalker 2 i have to choose between roleplaying skif having cataracts and the world looking like its filled with bees

[rocky jewel]

yeah in 10 years time you wont be able to boot a game from 2025

[dark hemlock]

trying times

[weary idol]

10 years from now we'll get an extra 2 fps from ue5 games

[rocky jewel]

or the fact that you have 4 loot items to find in the world, bread, water, medkit, bandage..

how fun

[rocky jewel]

10 years time UE5 will be in a computer science book about mistakes that shouldnt be repeated

[weary idol]

Honestly i dont even care about that, the game would be a solid 6-7/10 if it wasnt for ue5

[dark hemlock]

UE5 and its consequences

[weary idol]

Acting like ue5 still wont be "industry standard" for the next century

Baked TAA has completely killed the game engine industry

[rocky jewel]

its funny because UE5 isnt actually THAT terrible.. its just so consistently used poorly by devs that its synonymous with dogshit

[weary idol]

No it is objectively terrible

[dark hemlock]

it wont be the industry standard, we might see worse

[weary idol]

Even good ue5 games graphically look horrendous when compared to 15 year old games on a clarity level

[dark hemlock]

i have faith, slim but i do

[weary idol]

Expedition 33 cough cough

[graceful fulcrum]

Death Stranding meanwhile

[dark hemlock]

people made xray a real engine

with less tools

so yeah

[graceful fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/death-stranding-dance-hot-springs-hot-spring-norman-reedus-gif-3589060545188172678

[dark hemlock]

maybe someone will fix that junk

[weary idol]

Yeah like how the fuck is half life alyx able to run at 120 fps with that clarity while stalker 2 dies when you look at a tree without it being blurry

[atomic pebble]

but it was a real engine before tho, without a engine nothing runs

[dark hemlock]

well it was tangible

UE5 is a engine too, just trash and dated from the start. At least xray was good for its time

[atomic pebble]

There atleast 3 lies in this comment

[weary idol]

You know its bad when even fromsoft and bethesda's engines are praised over ts

[rocky jewel]

they look horrendous because the devs dont put in the work, they rely on shit like DLSS, upscaling and other shit cuz they get away with it, the quality is down in the pits.. the only bad thing about UE5 objectively is it's performance and the samey look it gets from the lighting

[graceful fulcrum]

I say that UE4 was still fine, shit got downhill on UE5

[weary idol]

Ue5 being an engine, xray being good, and xray being good for its time

[weary idol]

No even if they put in the work the clarity and crosshatching is horrendous

[rocky jewel]

wonder if you could even modernize Xray or if you just have to make a new engine

[weary idol]

Ue5 as a whole is a shortcut

Its inherently a bad engine

[atomic pebble]

U already have many examples of that

[rocky jewel]

yeah it's not perfect that's for sure

[atomic pebble]

Rentgen-Luch (engine of New Project), IX-Ray, Advanced X-Ray, Open X-Ray, OGSR Engine

[weary idol]

We calling source 2 perfect at this rate

[atomic pebble]

Honorific mention to the X-Ray 2.0 of Dezowawe Team that perhaps never will be released in a full state

[rocky jewel]

why dont we export the Gamma modpack onto a newer more modern engine of Xray then? Im not quite familiar with game development but wouldnt that help with performance?

[weary idol]

Thats not how it works

Think of it like uh...

Trying to turn your duplo build into legos

[atomic pebble]

No

[weary idol]

You cant just magically make the megabricks into lego bricks, you have to basically go from the ground up with the old stuff being used simply as a frame of reference

[atomic pebble]

That possibly never will happen either, if anything, maybe one day Anomaly will get Open X-Ray

[rocky jewel]

I mean if we can rip models from tarkov and put them into this game which has a different engine, I mean it would use the same language since its just a modernized version of xray no? or is it the language itself the problem since its old?

[rocky jewel]

so even if its just a "modernization" of the xray engine you cant just transfer the files into it.. I guess that sort of makes sense

[atomic pebble]

U don't have idea of the big work that would be port other engine to Anomaly

[weary idol]

Well thats more like taking lego builds and converting them to megabricks digitally then 3D printing them

Its ship of thesseus

[atomic pebble]

U vill remains with that funny engine

and some other thingis like modded exes

[rocky jewel]

I more so mean to bring anomaly to the new engine.. although.. I guess thats basically the same thing, I dont quite get it, doesnt help that im high I suppose

[atomic pebble]

doesnt help that im high I suppose
Indeed, but port a engine is much more difficult and complex than port 3D assets

[dark hemlock]

freedom irl

lol

[rocky jewel]

ah okay I think thats where I was lost.. I assumed most of it would be just moving 3D assets to the new engine and as for the core gameplay like moving your character around or projectiles and what not would be a copy paste

[dark hemlock]

worst thing I did to myself was playing ts baked

never again

[rocky jewel]

cant help it I need the Psy resistance to keep playing more XD

[weary idol]

Play cruelty squad baked and it just turns into ex machina

[atomic pebble]

Both would be titanic works, port Anomaly to another engine will be much worse than port a engine to it

[dark hemlock]

it's a psy something, can't say resistance

this game is or ridiculously funny or legit the most terrifying stuff you'll see when your high on potenuse

it's an experience lol

it's all fun and games till you have to fight a controller

fuck that guy fr

[atomic pebble]

there a mod

[dark hemlock]

ugly ass mf

[atomic pebble]

where

[rocky jewel]

yeah I guess I dont really realize how much effort it would take.. unless you just mean they would need to completely recreate Anomaly in that engine, so then.. in that case how are these "modernized XRay" engines if what seemingly works fine on Xray cant be transferred or atleast.. um.. salvaged? into the new engine

[atomic pebble]

the player

is a controller

[dark hemlock]

ayo what

lmao

peak department

[rocky jewel]

wouldnt that just be... its own engine.. like.. okay that sounds stupid I realize each engine is its own thing its created for sole purposes but I mean.. I would assume it to be like a family tree.. like the DNA is still there

ohhh wait

okay I see here.. by modernizing the engine you have to change inherent things like the lighting systems or the rendering itself which would break alot of scripts and shaders

and probably alot more I am not thinking about as well

so yeah basically recreating the game then

[graceful quiver]

It's like trying to maintain an old thing to keep it running rather than getting a new one

[atomic pebble]

I think that u being high also doens't helps me to understand u well, there mods that can be ported to other engines (a lot of the ones that are in Open X-Ray, OGSR, and IX-Ray are ports), and engines like OGSR and IXR have capacities to help the modder to port eir ports easier.
Open X-Ray, IX-Ray and all of these have many differences (and a lot of additions that technically doens't exists on other engines) with Anomaly engine even if em share some "roots", port it would be a big problem in any aspect, closest thingi that u would get for now is the funny engine

[atomic pebble]

Not always, but the ideal thingi for mods like Anomaly would be re-structure the scripts for minimize the amount of LUA Garbage

[rocky jewel]

yeah I am trying to explain my thoughts and reasoning as best I can but even sober I dont do that very well XD, I understand now that to move the game to a new engine especially with the 100s of mods that are already tuned to Xray as it is with lighting, rendering and everything would break probably everthing and take years to troubleshoot through

[dark hemlock]

[atomic pebble]

https://ap-pro.ru/stuff/ten_chernobylja/controller-evolve-hastur-r430/

[rocky jewel]

besides reading up on it now it seems even the modernized versions of the Xray engine arent too much better they still experience similar drawbacks

[dark hemlock]

i'm stalking rn

[remote tide]

are there any heavy tier helmets i should look out for?
like any that are especially good or bad?

[dark hemlock]

Nasty got the green barrel SKS, ohhhh boy

[rocky jewel]

Sphere12 is my go to most of the time

[atomic pebble]

Are much better, just u don't played with these engines, u should try Open X-Ray, OGSR Engine and IX-Ray on the current mods that have em

[dark hemlock]

someone will have a terrible time in these swamps

now its MY swamp

[rocky jewel]

good balance of protection and resistance

[dark hemlock]

ty, i'll check it out

sounds fun af

[rocky jewel]

mods as in for Stalker? didnt realize they already had a version of stalker on newer engines? or do you mean seperate standalone projects?

[atomic pebble]

both, check the mods on OGSR Engine, Open X-Ray and IX-Ray

Aren't anomaly-compatible but are worth-trying

[dark hemlock]

ironic, i didn't even kill the dude

just got late to the party lol

gotta thx clear sky for killing folk on my behalf, cooler science gang always being goated

[remote tide]

mm
feeling a bit better about anomaly protection now

[remote tide]

huh
just found two chimera corpses in the army warehouses

[weary idol]

What did electrical anomalies do to you bro

I usually just prioritize chemical and fire, idgaf about electrical

[blissful ivy]

nah deadass

elec does fuckall

even when you step into one

it doesnt one shot

it just does like 30-50% hp

[forest vortex]

anyone know the mod gamma uses that allows me to customize durability of the stalkers armor/guns when they die

[blissful ivy]

the game is easy enough

why would it need to be easier

also you cant really do much about it

without some extensive bullshittery

extensive as in more than MCM

[remote tide]

the electrical resist is just a side effect of the ring artefact
which im mainly using for the stamina regen
to offset the surge regenerator

[blissful ivy]

you offset the surge?

weird

i just leave it

doesnt bother me when i spam epis and coke

[remote tide]

i mean i also just had the ring equipped first

[blissful ivy]

epis are dirt cheap and last like 30m

why bother

+25kg

[tranquil eagle]

It's in MCM, Drop condition

[blissful ivy]

also

[blissful ivy]

doesnt work mate

[dark hemlock]

name checks out, clearly

[blissful ivy]

just changes the gun condition not the parts

[tranquil eagle]

Ah, I see

[blissful ivy]

weird gamma nonsense

[solid shoal]

https://youtu.be/ZZ957Z1BjFM?si=-e4YUtdJrOTMvOKA

[blissful ivy]

that mod is for armor drop condition and stuff

thats what its for

[dark hemlock]

bruh really thought he was going to attack blue swamp base by himself lol

[blissful ivy]

which that does work, because its for handling it

[tall root]

wtf is this tast in the task board?

[halcyon quail]

!pdaerror

[dawn marten]

@tall root

Just ignore it.

Critical Error on top of certain tasks was done on purpose to prevent autofailing once accepted through the PDA Taskboard.
It can also appear on tasks that require you to go into maps you can't access yet.

HEX code is just an easter egg, something similar to the "Kill Strelok" PDA.

[tall root]

very cool, thanks obama

[glass sable]

Home, sweet home.. ♥️

[glass sable]

HOLY CONDITION

[torpid minnow]

Had smth like that happen in yanov station. Bro burst through the doors like a western saloon and just got firing squaded by everyone inside lmfao. Like what are we doing

[dark hemlock]

so fuckin stupid it hurts lmao

they say there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity

this absolute baffoon manages to be both at the same time

lol

fearless + brainless is a timeless combination that never fails to amuse

[dark hemlock]

lmao, I can only imagine bro trying to pull a Arthur Morgan move like it's easy game

Wanted to be Arthur, ended being Fenton

terrible

[torpid minnow]

Dude it was hilarious the guy just flew into the building just to get evaporated

The frames were horrible lmao, everyone at the same time just mag dumped

[dark hemlock]

overkill lmao

[torpid minnow]

I love how your guy was named stupid lol

[dark hemlock]

fr

I get some absolutely hilarious names often

[torpid minnow]

I should have checked the name, what if there’s an event like that where one guy with that kind of name charges into a base your in? Just seems like a hilarious feature to have

[dark hemlock]

this mf

[dark hemlock]

lmao for real

we got Diddy in the zone and still no GTA

can't stop falling off

my first thought was that lol, how tf did bro even get to Chernobyl lmao

man I love campfire songs

[wild hatch]

Sdalge chat always so dead

[blissful ivy]

its because either theyre playing the game

or theyre in offtopic

because what is there to talk about lmao

besides what modpacks are neat

and what is ass

[wild hatch]

i reckon we're all hibernating for 095

[blissful ivy]

tbh updates make me more angry than excited

[untold rapids]

i mean newbies chat is always pretty active

[blissful ivy]

good thing its optional

[blissful ivy]

i like this stuff

[blissful ivy]

thats cuz its full of retards

[untold rapids]

fair

but thats like 99% of the server

[blissful ivy]

100%

but yeah

[untold rapids]

[blissful ivy]

gotta be honest

thats all

[untold rapids]

it is the best policy

[ivory wing]

I need help finding a specific song played at the freedom base

sounds jamican but is russian im guessing?

[wild hatch]

shazam upgrade for pda?

[ivory wing]

dont tell me thats a thing lmao

i tried shazaming it it just didnt find it

[dark hemlock]

I would kill for this lmao

[dark hemlock]

man this song annoys tf outta me

its cool the first 3 times

but after hearing it for the 234x time while organizing your hideout, its truly psy warfare

monolith should be taking notes fr

[hushed pier]

that arch tho'

[quick lava]

fr

[north ibex]

gahdamn that snork prolly makes 10k monthly on onlystalkers

[quick lava]

lmao

[dark hemlock]

whole goddamn bakery on this mf

[wild hatch]

Hydrashok backshot

[hushed pier]

always bring protection

[dark hemlock]

eating raw mutants ain't the best idea

[hushed pier]

who said anything bout eating

[dark hemlock]

poor snork

caught lacking in the zone 😩

[remote tide]

are there any heavy tier helmets i should look out for?
like any that are especially good or bad?

[hushed pier]

apocloypse helmet

good

[ivory wing]

This peak zone entertainment

Im going fucking insane trying to find this song man

Guess what Shazam gave me

Some polish Bob Marley and it was still wrong

[dark hemlock]

gamblin

are you fucking kidding me

[remote tide]

ouch

[limpid lagoon]

Thats an example of my luck

[hushed pier]

40 bodies

think ahead

[dark hemlock]

yeah

still

8 lockpicks

merc who left this crate did me dirty ngl

[hushed pier]

i got m98b and 25 lapua

haha

green barrel

[dark hemlock]

stalker god has its favorites

clearly

lol

finally got the green MP9

what do yall think of it?

looks tacticool enough

[remote tide]

mm.

[blissful ivy]

I STOLE ALL THE LUCK

[remote tide]

i forget
barrier raids are every 7 days?
or was it 14?

[stark wyvern]

every 7

[remote tide]

alr ty

[remote tide]

i dont understand why STALKERs go 'i'll pass, it doesn't feel right' when its zombies
like
you're putting them out of their suffering

[dark hemlock]

huh

first time seeing this one

western goods mod

[safe bramble]

by mission after it i mean the id

its so fucking annoying having to backtack to tc

[hidden remnant]

is it ok if update gamma or wait till .95 version?

[short plume]

Anyone else found an “AK-47”?
Not an AKM
Not an AKMS
Not an AK-103
I mean a basic-ass, Pattern 2, milled receiver, AK-47?
No dovetail mount, GP-25 (after mod), PBS suppressor optional
Loading it with the “flinch” ammo from artigrok its my go-to barrier defence / mutant gun for anything lower than rostok

[near estuary]

default gamma?

nevermind

but it could be an outdated stash or something
where did you find it?

[short plume]

Think it was in a stash, but i do have the black market mod installed, i think it may be messing with loot tables, but i think its a good addition, id like to see it in stashes maybe just a little higher than the SKS, good ghetto blaster but not tacticool enough for anything north of army warehouses

Actually, on the note of guns, id love to see more lower quality / cheaper guns, i know theres the Mosin, K98k, ppsh and the thompson, but id love to see more ww2 stuff, the PPS-43, MP-40, STEN, Garand, MP-44/STG-44, G-41/43, maybe even older too, imagine using a Berdan-II against mutants?

[blissful rampart]

stitch_decoder

[obtuse geyser]

question, ive done it before but i forgot, where do i find what to disable to play direct 9

[random grail]

!dx

[dawn marten]

@obtuse geyser
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[obtuse geyser]

thanks

[crystal hinge]

So I've been trying to befriend the mercs as a loner

For various reasons

Anyway finally got them past the shoot on sight threshold

[light stone]

the faster way is to disable brain scorcher, u will be friends afterwards

[humble shale]

not GAMMA but from Darktide in one of my havoc 40 sessions

[crystal kernel]

Yo

Why no offset aim

[jagged axle]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flightreacts-tongue-shake-google-pixel-gif-11335145770598513923

[near estuary]

yeah, black market gives access to extremely outdated guns (pre 2023)

[short plume]

damn, guess ill have to get rid of it for my next playthrough

[obtuse knoll]

i always have BM on, whats the point of all these rubles if i aint gonna use it for something

[ivory wing]

How to achieve these beautiful icons kind sir?

[dark hemlock]

Guns are default gamma without icons (deactivated because some guns are missing icons and attachments are out of place when HD), ammo icons are Artigrok without anything else, PDAs are from Fatal error 2x1 and devices are stalker 2 icons

all things you can find here

cool stuff

and UI is Sota's

now we are talking

got this bad boy on another pelican lootbox

fuckin finally some luck

[near estuary]

Just buy a ridiculous amount of drugs

[hushed pier]

https://tenor.com/view/rizz-rizz-face-this-dude-rizzler-im-bouta-gif-6257409225437610755

[hushed pier]

Maaad

[hushed pier]

*people born rich be like

[blissful rampart]

if you're homeless, go buy a house.

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-know-no-way-shocked-surprised-you-don’t-say-gif-11989213996825066781

[blissful ivy]

If youre homeless, kill a homeowner and assume their identity

They might wonder why hes suddenly so different

But who cares

[mild wing]

i wonder which hero I'm looking at

[blissful ivy]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1089537915606007839/1210161674150088724/hitler_we_have_a_problem.gif

[mild wing]

last time i checked Jupiter wasn't located in Argentina

[blissful ivy]

(Yes he was austrian)

Doesnt matter

He heard the artifacts were promised to strelok

Had to come to the zone

[quasi lance]

Another day, another art of my Monolith furry boy

[quasi lance]

Is there a 3dss mod for it ?
Mine dont have the damn thing

[cunning patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1433373592686563459/wTw7x3l.gif

[blissful ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336380532363362304/1344787141523275837/XWyKuU6E.gif

[near estuary]

austrians and germans are legit more similar than czechs and slovaks and nobody can convince me otherwise

[mild wing]

https://klipy.com/gifs/morgan-freeman-true-5--k01KPTXF5SA8AM9N3B06AJFXJJ5

[gaunt shuttle]

got a yellow stash in dead city as a loner
Disguised as a Freedomer
gets close to location of the stash but hears familiar growling sound
peaks corner its a chimera, and it saw me (no shit it did)
runs towards the Merc HQ (hoped to see at least 1 dead merc to loot)
random Merc with an RPG7/ grenade launcher "GTFO!" blasts the chimera to peices

like ghad damm

right on que

[tall path]

what do you mean Monolith in Garbage

[mild wing]

don't accept it

they will despawn and you'll automatically fail

[tall path]

fair enough

[rocky jewel]

Sure you weren't just in Ohio?

nah but thats the real fun of this game

every run is different just with the same checkpoints.. like a roguelite

[gaunt shuttle]

yup

[mild wing]

i aspire to look as good as this man one day

[rocky jewel]

That's one hell of a cheeki breeki

[mild wing]

tactical bard

[gaunt shuttle]

never know whats gonna happen xD

[rain nova]

he's a very high value target

[dark hemlock]

what models are you using?

looks fine

i'm currently using KVMA HD, it's amazing but maybe i'll try another one for sport

[mild wing]

none, it's vanilla

[dark hemlock]

damn

lol, guess i'm more spoiled by HD models than I thought

thx

[viral sail]

A very special fuck you to monolith for taking away my baby boys. They stuck with me through shit and more shit, and it took facing off against monolith for them to finally fall. I watched them both go from trainee to experienced, and one even had a brief moment with an RPG I found before I realized giving an NPC an RPG of which they'd have infinite ammo for while still being green was highly irresponsible and I watched that same one use it point blank on a dog and somehow live.

They will be missed.

[dark hemlock]

pro-tip: don't try to mess with mods while sleep deprived

currently fixing some whoopsies here

[viral sail]

pouring one out for him, it was actually a monolithian he had fired at not a dog.

[gaunt shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-burt-lancaster-run-silent-run-deep-saluting-hero-gif-26186351

[tall jolt]

Right chat this time ig

When can we get this?

[peak geyser]

[tall jolt]

Fym what, one for people and the other for mutants

[peak geyser]

did you really just ask me what I mean this is ridiculous

[tall jolt]

Alrighty then

[peak geyser]

I am quite curious to see if some guy has made an under barrel shotgun yet

someone has tried before I think

[rocky jewel]

as a mod? would be pretty dope but a bit unbalanced

[tall jolt]

it’s single player, who cares about balance

[mild wing]

how would it be more unbalanced than a regular UBGL that is just a point&click kill on demand

[rocky jewel]

limited costly ammo

[tall jolt]

Is it?

I have like 50 grenades and i don’t even try to get them

[rocky jewel]

for the early-mid game I would say so.. after that it doesnt really matter

[tall jolt]

And you can buy them

[tall jolt]

You don’t really get good grenade launcher access till at least being ready for BS tho

[rocky jewel]

yeah but their pricey and in limited supply as opposed to buckshot which is very easily accessible, being able to switch between two ammo types on one weapon basically negates the need for a secondary altogether

I am all for it I just dont think they would add it

[mild wing]

that proves my point even more, 40mm grenades have a similar cost

and just fuck everything in a 10m radius

[tall jolt]

Idk, it removes the need for carrying a dedicated shotgun, but you can still carry a sniper and a pistol

[rocky jewel]

no 40mm is alot more expensive than buckshot, yes its great for AoE I am not denying that but the UBGL is entirely unessecary when you get access to AP ammo atleast for me anyways

[mild wing]

oh, you're talking about a shotgun, i've been thinking of 7,62 attachment from your original message

but i still think it could be fine if implemented right

[rocky jewel]

its a fun weapon but its utility is equivelant of a normal grenade, my point is you needing one less weapon altogether to survive the zone, you have AP or FMJ in your main gun for stalkers and if you get surprised by a mutant you quick switch to rapid firing buckshot and click back to AP, its just a convenience factor I cant see them adding but it would be cool

[rocky jewel]

7.62 attachment?

[mild wing]

did you not read what you just reposted?

[rocky jewel]

that... what? why would you have a seperate caliber rifle round as an underbarrel attachment? I dont even think that would work

I didnt repost anything though?

[mild wing]

aight it was the other guy

nevermind

you have the same color and you're responding at the same time

[mild wing]

so about not needing to carry a shotgun: i do that all the time

either an intermediate caliber rifle with HP

or a .45 pistol

not that game breaking to ditch a shotgun

[rocky jewel]

yeah there are sidearms you can carry like my favorite is the USP or the coonin or as I like to call it the coomin cuz I be bustin' when I pull the trigger on that bad boi

[mild wing]

yeah coonan is like 7/10

would be 9/10 if its animations weren't fucking broken

it can block your shots if you ADS too fast

[rocky jewel]

it can be as an early game item, whereas a UBGL cannot be funded to be feasible that early on a lockhart would be insanely convenient, save on weight, no durability to concern yourself with and its faster than switching

[rocky jewel]

I like the special deagle that has higher capacity but its fire rate is... meh

[mild wing]

just make it have a small mag and limit it to C+ tier guns, solved

[rocky jewel]

I was looking at carrying the Ash-12 now that I came across one

unfortunately needs a D kit though so gonna be a lot of jammin

[mild wing]

ASh or RSh?

[rocky jewel]

RSh my bad

[mild wing]

yeah it sucks agains mutants

it's not like the .357 guns

[tall path]

Ye it is mostly for Stalkers as it is sniper ammo afterall

[rocky jewel]

Yeah, not what I want it for

[tall jolt]

You can stop a firearms from jamming without a repair kit

[rocky jewel]

7.62 kills the body but 12.7 kills the soul

[mild wing]

it would if it wasn't subsonic

[rocky jewel]

I thought it was based on the barrel condition and below 60% I cant repair it with anything but a proper tool kit or one of those universal kits

[tall jolt]

Jamming depends on part condition and parts can be swapped out with other compatible parts or removed entirely

Parts, including barrels, can be made to 100% condition using cleaning kits provided they are over 60% condition to start with

[rocky jewel]

yeah I can swap out everything but the barrel, but I thought the barrel had the most direct influence on jam probability

[tall jolt]

Barrels can only be swapped out by repair kits, and a weapons cannot be left without a barrel. But barrels have no effect on jam chance: they alter the weapon’s damage and ap stat

[rocky jewel]

oh I wasnt aware of that, it used to effect it atleast im pretty sure cuz I jammed often even with good parts

why I just avoided most weapons with bad barrels up until this point if I couldnt craft the repair kit

[tall jolt]

Furthermore, a repair kit can be used to replace any weapon part with a 100% part, regardless of it’s condition or if the weapon even have that part in it. Beware though, replacing a part through this method will delete the part if it hasn’t already been field stripped

[tall jolt]

Just because all your parts are green, doesn’t mean you won’t still jam. You need all max condition mechanism parts to completely avoid jams

[rocky jewel]

yeah I know thats usually how I did it up till now was making a kit to swap the bad parts for good or replacing pieces I didnt have, I just use cleaning kits to maintain the rest

[tall jolt]

Yeah that’s the general way to do it, but it’s just good to keep in mind that if a weapon is really good but it’s barrel isn’t over 60, you can still use it

[rocky jewel]

in all fairness though, I see little point in using a gun if its barrel is below 60% anyways due to the damage reduction but good to know jam chance isnt a factor as well

[rocky jewel]

yeah thats nice to know, I avoided it thinking it would jam AND be weaker so just didnt bother

[tall jolt]

I used a saiga for ages at the start since it was better than any other alternative shotgun i had access to, even with 40-60% less damage

[rocky jewel]

good to know for starting new runs

I usually stuck with my starting pistol until I got basic tools to craft a class b kit

Saiga is amazing its what im using now while farming for the KSG

[tall jolt]

That’s fair, i was glad to find that guns such as the pp2000 are only A class, but i needed something punchier for multiple heavily armoured foes

[rocky jewel]

forgot to mention that only the regular round is subsonic the AP round is the one I intend to carry in mine for stalkers, like a hand cannon sniper rifle XD

[tall jolt]

No they’re both sub sonic

[rocky jewel]

one of my favorites is the bizon, 64 round magazine of 9x18 which is kind of weak but its super fun to spray.. and you CAN upgrade it to 9x19 which isnt too bad

oh shit you'r right

[tall jolt]

Still a nice round though, 70 damage at br4 for an fmj round will take out anyone in a couple shot bar exos. And even then it won’t struggle

Fairly easy to make too

[rocky jewel]

I swore the AP round was sonic.. guess it makes sense though since it is techincally for CQB

[tall jolt]

They’re also used in the vssk sniper

The round was just designed to be subsonic. Its makes up for it by being half an inch in diameter

[rocky jewel]

yeah but that thing is chunky as fuck.. I actually got quite lucky in my current run, this was I think the second weapon I looted

[slender musk]

Emissons are still causing hold the ground to fail.

[rocky jewel]

basically the same as 23mm, slow as fuck but if it hits you you'll turn to dust

maybe I should try to get some unniversal kits, that could restore the barrel for me without needing Expert Tools im pretty sure

but I recall them being pretty pricey and I dont think I have seen any in the shops yet

[tall jolt]

Idk, i’d argue that neither are particularly slow

[rocky jewel]

wonder if they're a higher level trading

[tall jolt]

Around 300 m/s is still very fast

(Being only about half of the typical travel speed of 7.62x39 and 54)

[rocky jewel]

well the 12.7 rifle is 420 m/s which is pretty decent but 23mm is like 150 m/s i'm pretty sure

its VERY slow

in comparison to normal cartridges but I mean.. its a massive hunk of mass

[tall jolt]

Where did those number come from?

[rocky jewel]

im using the game in this instance, since thats what im referencing for speeds, IRL the 12.76mm STs-130 is 290-315 m/s which is actually even lower than the game but the shrapnel rounds are 270-300 m/s

[tall jolt]

Yeah both 12.7x55 and most 23x75mmR cartridges fire at around 300-400 m/s

Even barrikada

[rocky jewel]

12.7 is 290-300 at most and thats from a VKS sniper rifle

in regards to 130, there may be other rounds that have higher velocities

nope, of all 5 types of rounds for the 12.7mm 3 share 295 m/s velocity from what I have read

PS12B can reach 300 m/s which is the highest

the KS-23 hovers between 250-350 but barrikada can reach 430 which is actually pretty good, also just discovered that there is a tear gas round for the KS-23

that shotgun really does get all the fun huh, flash-bang rounds and 2 types of tear gas rounds

[sick yoke]

barrels do have an effect on jam chance pretty sure

[tall jolt]

If it doesn’t then it’s a very small one

[tall jolt]

Yeah both 12.7x55 and most 23x75mmR cartridges fire at around 300-400 m/s

Further, ShAK-12 rifles fire them at speeds of up to 315m/s

[blissful ivy]

[tall jolt]

Amerika moment

[rocky jewel]

close enough

[tall jolt]

Yee

[rocky jewel]

time to get that KSG

[tall jolt]

Love how when you search that up it comes up as “fictional object” and then provides plenty of sources to it being very much no fictional

Ksg-12 i mean

[rocky jewel]

well the weapon its based off of is real its actually my favorite shotgun

but yeah if it were real that would be insane

[tall jolt]

It’s a cool system

[rocky jewel]

would fucking obliterate your arm

[tall jolt]

But yeah it’s just like “not real, wdym”

[tall jolt]

Nahh, just takes some time

[rocky jewel]

yeah its super cool, 2 tubes that you can switch between on the fly and the shells eject through the bottom

[rocky jewel]

I meant if you just fucking sent it, just baw baw baw

[tall jolt]

It’s a pumpie, you’d be fine

Worst comes to worst just don’t shoulder it

[rocky jewel]

there is no way you are hip firing a 23x75mm without losing the gun XD it is literally a hand held anti-aircraft rifle

well carbine

[tall jolt]

People have slam fired full magazines of Barretts. It just takes some time

[tall jolt]

And no, it’s barrel was originally intended for use in an anti aircraft gun. The firearm itself was not intended for use as an anti aircraft gun

[rocky jewel]

the barrett has more recoil energy but the ks-23s recoil is said to be way worse

[tall jolt]

The firearm was originally developed to suppress prison riots

[rocky jewel]

yes, the gun was constructed from rejected anti-aircraft barrels which is why I call it that.. the main difference is the length of the round being about a 40% decrease but thats still a hefty boi

[tall jolt]

Because the ks-23 has a shotgun grip whereas the Barrett uses a pistol grip

A ksg-23 would also use a pistol grip. And pistol grips are a lot better at not sliding out of your hand

[tall jolt]

Furthermore, this exists

[rocky jewel]

it traditionally used a fixed wooden stock, the KS-23M was the newer version created which had a foldable wirestock and pistol grip

[tall jolt]

This isn’t wrong, but the main thing there is that the shot space of the shell and the bullet space of the round are roughly the same. So that extra 40mm is all powder

[tall jolt]

Traditionally yes, but there exists variants with folding stocks and variants without a stock, suggesting that hip firing is absolutely possible. When you consider a ksg-23 would have even less recoil dude to extra weight, a better grip, and the fact that it can much more easily facilitate a seccond grip on the pump action. You gotta accept that hip firing is not that bad

[rocky jewel]

those variants were more than likely used for utility such as tear gas, rubber, or flashbangs rather than the actual lethal rounds which pack a heavier punch

[rare bridge]

some new options, whats the best one to take?

[rocky jewel]

the ones without stocks

[rare bridge]

the beril option just gives you a basic toolkit

[rocky jewel]

barter_povar_army 4_4 for sure.. although you could also take the barter_povar_army 3_5 if you are feeling frisky

[tall jolt]

If you need more basics at the point of yantar (don’t know why you would) that one. Otherwise the pkp mags are good to disassemble for red powder

[rare bridge]

what are these options?

[tall jolt]

The rest is just rifle rounds i’m pretty sure

[rocky jewel]

I am not saying it isn't possible.. all I said was you were losing the gun if you tried XD

[tall jolt]

The game fucking up its dialogue configs

[rare bridge]

i figured

[rocky jewel]

it is the monoliths language

very secretive

[rare bridge]

yeah i need mosin ammo, thats probably the wisest

[tall jolt]

By definition that means it’s impossible.

[rocky jewel]

oh no.. you will still get the shot off.. likely killing whatever it was you were shooting provided your hip-accuracy was on point you would just not get a second

[tall jolt]

If we were saying to hip fire, as in the singular, sure. But hip firing implies plural

And i suppose we shall just have to agree to disagree on that point

[cunning patio]

any argument in gamma be like

[tall jolt]

Just kidding! Here’s a video of a guy doing it

https://youtube.com/shorts/Fux2ey5UuNI?si=MQ9Mdmhm3e9yg5gR

https://youtu.be/en_55fzWeVo?si=ZgSTj39CelWTPmZJ full vid if you were curious

[rocky jewel]

not really, like if I said I am gonna be hip-firing that weapon that doesnt mean I am going to shoot multiple times just that I am going to shoot it from the hip atleast to me anyways, I take it as both ways, but in that event.. yeah.. you aint getting past fire

[tall jolt]

I did include a video that shows you most definitely can

[rocky jewel]

should be noted in the second video they are using custom rounds

they couldnt acquire the real ones

[tall jolt]

They’re the same video

[rocky jewel]

yes I know I was just pointing to the one of the two I was referencing XD

I wish guns were more normalized in canada man

this country fucking hates guns for some reason

[tall jolt]

They’re still the same load and dimension. At least the slug one is

[tall jolt]

It is strange when the UK has better gun laws than another western country

[rocky jewel]

damn.. even the rubber ammo it uses can be lethal within 40m, that's crazy

[tall jolt]

Yeah

12 gauge bean bag can be lethal, that’s not that surprising

[rocky jewel]

also yeah I forgot, in russia the KS-23 since its beyond 20mm diameter is technically classified as low caliber ARTILLERY