╓☢stalker-chat

[remote tide]

hmmm
ive already upgraded the EF88 a little
and its lighter than the SIG 550

oh hello

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow grok killed isg noso again

[celest sparrow]

the Nosorog class in general

but yeah fuck the UNISG nosorog I guess

https://tenor.com/view/lapiscel-alien-glob-monsters-vs-aliens-blob-eat-up-gif-11914463748704766450

[sick yoke]

nature is healing

[empty frigate]

What’s the key for the wheel?

[gloomy lantern]

sheeeesh

[near estuary]

!wheel

uhhh

hold Z

or Y

[empty frigate]

thanks i was loocking at the keybinds but seems like some keybinds are not updated

[blissful ivy]

CHECK MCM

[near estuary]

yeah #│💻keybinds-in-gamma is kinda outdated

[remote tide]

?

huh
didnt know UNISG showed up in radar

thats rough buddy

[valid loom]

Thats Monolith tho

[remote tide]

yeah

im not talking about that guy

is that proof enough

[valid loom]

Usually you'd find them in Jupiter, Zaton, and Outskirts

Rarely in Army Warehouses

[near estuary]

maybe a bug where the NPC looted a unisg fucker?

[remote tide]

they were UNISG corpses

[near estuary]

oh

yeah it's possible ig

I've had Renegade rookies with PMs spawn in Yanov

[valid loom]

Oh the bandit camp east of Yanov, yeah Ive seen them on occasion.

Til they get attacked by a chimera which it then fought a pseudogiant.

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-nature-nature-is-amazing-amazing-parks-and-rec-gif-18353277

[remote tide]

dont feel like doing brain scorcher rn so im gonna go get a screenshot of those UNISG guys

yoink
definitely worth getting this stash

im ngl im gonna use the debug menu to trade that for a clear sky pathfinder once i repair it

[scenic trench]

don't
CS pathfinder is garbage
way worse than the merc model
#MakeCSPathfMedium

[remote tide]

or just make it good lol

[near estuary]

damn, it IS dogshit

@radiant fog how does it look in 095?

[remote tide]

which makes no sense imho
bc like
CS is the one who makes the pathfinder suits???

[radiant fog]

which one?

[near estuary]

CS pathfinder

[radiant fog]

let me check it give me a min

[remote tide]

thats really lame

and nonsensical

[radiant fog]

pretty damn good

[near estuary]

[scenic trench]

huh
mustve been buffed
just didnt find one since that update

[remote tide]

ok thats pretty solid

[radiant fog]

that update isnt out yet

May 1st

[near estuary]

[remote tide]

and its not gonna be save compatible, inevitably

[radiant fog]

its not

[remote tide]

... worth it for the CS Pathfinder being not shit

[scenic trench]

can you actually trade for it?

[radiant fog]

armor rework isnt actually the only thing with the update

so its hella worth it regardless

[near estuary]

people acting like a playthrough lasts more than a month
again

[radiant fog]

stuck in cordon for a month, then the gameplay starts

[remote tide]

i just dont particularly care for the early game

[near estuary]

[near estuary]

then like

why play gamma

that's THE thing it has

it falls off hard after getting advanced tools

[radiant fog]

hopefuly Northern zones is gonna be more interesting for people with the new relation changes and the duty base there

aswell as alife plus

[remote tide]

dunno if this is final but here it is so far

[little light]

where is this?

[little light]

ooh nice

[remote tide]

yeah i just moved in
too bad freedom
this is my building now

[valid loom]

Ah rooming with Skinflint

[valid loom]

Is the base at the cement factory or the checkpoint?

[radiant fog]

you'll see that when the update comes out

[valid loom]

[lost bridge]

Peak gaming setup in eastern europe

[remote tide]

frfr

the incredible kitchen

[flint current]

Elaborate

[radiant fog]

?

what is there to elaborate

[flint current]

Theres alife changes in next update?

[radiant fog]

alife plus is added to 0.9.5 so yes

[little light]

alife plus is a mod

[flint current]

Neat, missed that

[radiant fog]

ak105 double upgrade bug made its way back into the game apperently

[lost bridge]

I remember once seeing a bug I could upgrade an AK74M with a fucking exo

It was fucking bizarre

The UI is so goofy

[near estuary]

interesting

[radiant fog]

ye. no funny RPM anymore, but the weird ass reliability and recoil control is still a thing

how the double upgrade bug used to look

[near estuary]

if it was up to me, I'd hide every stat besides accuracy, rpm and mag size

[radiant fog]

i would hide everything except the latter two

maybe keep handling if we account for 0.9.5 changes tbh

[pallid tangle]

No TV in front of the sofa?

[hushed pier]

YO AN MOD for the thicc russian reticels

that is compatible

[alpine fox]

What bug?

[hushed pier]

umm why does xenotech mog now

[random grail]

Upgrade ak105,turn it into shakal or swamp thing and upgrade again for double upgrades because stats carry over

[alpine fox]

That's just how sections work

[random grail]

It's bug apparently

Idk

[alpine fox]

I've known about this for ages and pretty much made the changes to kits with that "feature" In mind

[vagrant phoenix]

This is the way

[alpine fox]

Itd be a bug if it breaks the gun but imo investing the resources to upgrade it twice isn't easy. It makes kit guns better

I could have had this "fixed" by someone ages ago but I left it in purposefully lmao

[vagrant phoenix]

I'm glad you did lol

I thought this was a feature

[random grail]

You can have shakal with 1100 rpm iirc so it's funny little bit

Or swamp with 1150?

[alpine fox]

I never messed with upgrade trees so that's a different issue

[hushed pier]

what so those guns are actually worth i never used them cuz i thought the kits reset stats to defauly

[alpine fox]

But that's the same as rpm upgrades on bolts

[random grail]

Only heard about it and never checked it myself

So better ask blob when he comes back

If you want more info

[alpine fox]

Nah. If the bug he means is that then I don't care. Imo it's not a bug

The upgrades just need to be changed to not include rpm for some guns If it's an issue

[hushed pier]

one question is this for all guns that can be kitted

or upgraded

like the deagle

[frail kestrel]

has me curious, why? i get some dont really do anything but this doesnt feel like bloat reducing reasons

[hushed pier]

good its not upto u then

[radiant fog]

Based. Just dont let grok hear this

Im telling on you

[frail kestrel]

@restive folio you have to see this lmao

[radiant fog]

[frail kestrel]

thats the joke

[little light]

opps

[mental furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808725050684342272/1435731659311026318/media-iv-text.gif

[near estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[near estuary]

as you said, some (most, really) say literally nothing to the player

recoil control tells you nothing

velocity tells you nothing

maximum range tells you nothing

damage also doesn't really tell you anything

neither do reliability or handling

RPM and mag size are really the only thing that you can interpret as a player

accuracy is debatable with how small the differences are

[pallid tangle]

why? is that how @mighty viper prefers it? or because nobody had the time & will to add meaningful stats?

[near estuary]

...

can we not ping grok over bullshit

oh well

inb4 why am I muted for no reason guise??

[frail kestrel]

right after i show how to intentionally avoid it too

[mighty viper]

People complaining about upgrade system stats which I never touched

https://tenor.com/view/shad-shadstroy-nikolai-nikostalker-stalker-gif-16986316625880111575

[near estuary]

[mighty viper]

“Oh look this shit makes no sense”

[near estuary]

never touched
yeah that's kinda what we're discussing

[mighty viper]

Yea I didn’t modify it

[frail kestrel]

ok,now everyone knows that, what now

[hushed pier]

time to call @wanton bolt and ask him

[near estuary]

nothing

[frail kestrel]

👍

[pallid tangle]

is the weapon & ammo stats clear and accurate enough for a new player to look at in-game weapon & ammo cards and understand or is there some extra level only veterans can know about (and a new GAMMA player cannot realistically in-game figure out, unless they test a lot perhaps)? because this was mentioned several times in newbies-chat, usually it starts with "that's not how damage works".

[near estuary]

did bro ping a random guy

[mighty viper]

Cool, how about you come do my work and clean my home so that I can focus on it ?

[near estuary]

I'm not the one who pinged you

[pallid tangle]

Is it not better to have a transparent clear system so all can see whilst in game without requiring hundreds of hours? maybe it's not for some reason but to me my gut feeling is clarity is better

[near estuary]

it would be better, yes

but someone has to make it

[mighty viper]

Main problem is upgrade cards

Labeling RPM as +% while actually it’s flat upgrades

For instance

Imagine that upgrades have a “value” which is displayed in UI and the actual modification which is not displayed in UI

So yeah the UI code needs to change first of all

[frail kestrel]

its not like theyre unclear in that sense, its just that almost all guns have 80-90% accuracy so it makes little difference and nobody knows how many hp the average boar has so its not really helping

[frail kestrel]

genuinely why is it like this, this sounds erally silly

[near estuary]

slavjank

[mighty viper]

Bullet damage is mostly accurate it’s just a value which you can compare between guns

[frail kestrel]

ohhh and btw, did anything come out of the crafting 30% artis issue i had

[near estuary]

yeah unless the gun shoots HP ammo

[mighty viper]

But you don’t want 0.08 damage value, because that’s what the engine use for instances

[near estuary]

inb4 "why my deer hunter with gazillion damage can't kill??"

[mighty viper]

That’s why you look at ammo damage and not gun

Ok I’ll remove gun damage display next update, you guys won

[near estuary]

therefore, the damage stat on the gun is useless

[near estuary]

[frail kestrel]

how do those two interact anyways, do they add or overrrite each other? which one has priority?

does total damage depend on both or just ammo type?

[hollow wadi]

Momopate wins once more

[near estuary]

there's like a formula here somewhere

[mighty viper]

Which is gun damage * bullet multiplier

So yes gun damage is important

[near estuary]

times 0,75
or something

[sour steppe]

general question how do i get an fps counter

[mighty viper]

But people don’t want to understand it it seems

[hushed pier]

muzzle velocity make more sense on weapons

[near estuary]

yeah because in most games, 50 damage gun does 50 damage to enemy

[hushed pier]

without the dmg stat

[frail kestrel]

in that case wouldnt removing the stat create more confusion, i.e. 'why is this one gun way weaker they both shoot 5.56'

[empty frigate]

Is there any significant change in performance if you play on borderless or fullscreen mode? i barely notice a difference but i would like to be sure about this

[near estuary]

how

[frail kestrel]

i just wasnt aware it exists, thats why i ask. to understand.

[near estuary]

as long as you don't play windowed, it's fine

[hollow wadi]

!fps

[dawn marten]

@sour steppe
Do the following to get an FPS counter on GAMMA 0.9.4:

Download and install this addon: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/simple-fps-monitor (In MO2, press CTRL+M, select the zip file, install and enable).
Once installed, load into your save and press F11 to open the ImgUi menu, then in the upper left corner select File > FPS Monitor > START MONITORING

Alternatively use external FPS counters like NVIDIA Overlay, MSI Afterburner, etc. or re-enable Reshade by following !reshade command in #🤖bot-commands (Reshade does take some FPS away, so it's up to you)

[near estuary]

since anomaly/gamma hates windowed mode

[frail kestrel]

the way it works now is also confusing though, really it should say modifier in exactly one, either ammo or gun description

[empty frigate]

i see, ahh this borderless/fullscreen modes get me confusing all the time trying to look at better performance

[frail kestrel]

enoughj of my dogshit opinions , bye

[hushed pier]

yeah idk

[near estuary]

[hushed pier]

its matter of perspective

guns effect bullet velocity with barrel length which in turn effects dmg

so with comparing diff guns that shoot the same caliber the velocity should be the deciding factor

in which one does more damage

[near estuary]

idk

that would either be a very big nerf to short barreled guns or it wouldn't be noticable at all

so you might as well leave the damage stat we have now

[hushed pier]

short barreled guns should for close quarturs anyway

[near estuary]

cuz this isn't tarkov where compact guns get ergo bonus

unless you implement that as well

[hushed pier]

that would be a very good addition

[near estuary]

idk about that

[hushed pier]

and give weapons versitality instead of them actually just being models

[near estuary]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/modded-exes-handling-as-ergonomics

but uhh

you can try it

momo clearly poured his heart into it

[sour steppe]

thank you

[hushed pier]

yea short weapon weigh less more ergo, long weapons more range and power

[near estuary]

range

my man

the average engagement distance in GAMMA is 20 meters

so unless you plan to make that "SoC makes your bullets disappear when on lower difficulty" myth a reality, that's not gonna work

[radiant fog]

thats why im telling on Athi! he is injecting malware and cheat codes into the upgrade trees!

[near estuary]

anything to protect the gamma crypto miner

[radiant fog]

ooh here is high value gun stat that doesnt do anything to distract you whilst i yoink your crypto

[near estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029824156289732649/1488143995170193460/image0.gif

[radiant fog]

you're leaking state secrets

[near estuary]

blob called reinforcements

[frail kestrel]

is pretending to be sad for internet points like, common in here

[radiant fog]

[random grail]

[near estuary]

this will not be forgotten

[radiant fog]

thank god.

[near estuary]

even his own minions scheme against him

[radiant fog]

there is alot of desgin/UI things i disagree with grok on. but he is stubborn af, so its good that he changed his mind on one objectively bad thing with stat UI

[frail kestrel]

ok but seriously if some guns do like 2x the damage of others and its a modifier then there will be so much confusion

[radiant fog]

the gun damage has no real correlation to what a gun does in the first place, visualy. due to modifiers and how they cant put that into perspective on what it does to an NPC

[radiant fog]

then you look at the bullet. not the gun

[near estuary]

but did he actually mean it

[frail kestrel]

i mean, if grok is right and its gundamage * bullet damage then both are literally equally important

[radiant fog]

yes but the visual gun damage has NO CORRELATION to players who dont delve into the ballistic system

its fucking pointless

he is removing the stat card numbers, not the calculations

[hushed pier]

man the op sks with a suppressor is just toooo good lookin

good dmr too

[radiant fog]

until you realize the gun that is listed as 50 damage ingame only does 0.2 to an npc (lets not even begin to take into consideration of bone hitpower/modifiers, damage dropoff, all of that jazz)

oh nooo how terrible

[hushed pier]

my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery

[radiant fog]

we are free from explaining the OH MY GOD OP 600 DMG DEERHUNTER??!?!½?!?

[near estuary]

[radiant fog]

[hushed pier]

its should be an optional

change

i dont want to remove it

[radiant fog]

its optional to understand the ballistic system in the first place

if you want to keep it. explain it to me

[near estuary]

[radiant fog]

thats right. none of you bother to. thats why its irrelevant to keep

[near estuary]

the explanation just boils down to "look at bullet stat"

[radiant fog]

add it back yourself later

[near estuary]

meaning it has no reason to exist

[radiant fog]

"but spartan. shakal has 4 more visual gun damage than other 5.45s, that must mean its super op"

[random grail]

Worth 100k

[radiant fog]

worth 100k cuz its red and edgy

[near estuary]

!true

[dawn marten]

⠀

[hushed pier]

if they are gonna make it that guns dont effect bullet damage fine remove it but since they do nah keep it

[radiant fog]

you just didnt read what we said

[near estuary]

...

[radiant fog]

you just dont understand the system

[near estuary]

were you paying attention

[radiant fog]

thats exactly the point why its removed

[near estuary]

like at all

[near estuary]

newbies jumping to defend an archaic feature they know nothing about

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-ahh-gif-8122726666929484809

[radiant fog]

a system shouldnt exist for the 0.1%s who are either insane enough to bother or has a reason to understand the ballistics for debug/info purposes

[radiant fog]

fr

[hushed pier]

its gundamage x bulletdamage

right

[radiant fog]

[near estuary]

times 0,75 iirc

but that's the STAT

not what damage it actually does when you shoot something

[radiant fog]

its alot more than that, thats why its so pointless to keep

Damage is:
gun actual damage stat (hidden) x ammo damage multiplier (hidden) / 1.5

so nothing is relevant to you

[mighty viper]

Well it’s strictly correlated once you penetrate the armor

[radiant fog]

it doesnt consider multipliers for bones

it doesnt consider mutant modifiers

it doesnt consider damage dropoff

its irrelevant.

[near estuary]

tester x gronk beef??

[radiant fog]

nothing new. he is stubborn and i respect him for that, but some things are pointless for anyone except the 0.1%s who bother learning the system

[mighty viper]

I always said damages values didn’t mean anything in the absolute by they are comparatively accurate

[radiant fog]

so hiding them doesnt damage anything. we will just get alot less of the "600 damage sniper?!?!? thats op!!"

[mighty viper]

I could make it so that 100 means a human health pool

[near estuary]

what blob said

[mighty viper]

Yeah but people saying that are clueless about the ballistic tutorial

[near estuary]

"how come my deer hunter can't kill six people in one shot"

[radiant fog]

you think they read? removing more things to read and try to understand = Good

so no damage stat = good

[mighty viper]

Tester chat is always this bro

Constant battlefield

[near estuary]

I mean, that's the point, no?

[mighty viper]

But I like to be challenged, that’s how we make a better game

[radiant fog]

fr

if he wasnt stubborn we would have teletubbies 2.0 with the easiest shit imaginable

BS nerf 20x

[near estuary]

[mighty viper]

Well I’m almost sure we will have a lot of people asking “but how can I compared gun if no damage stat”

“Look for ammo”

“But it’s not practical”

[radiant fog]

better than trying to explain a ballistic system when they ask "omg 600 damage"

cuz then we just say "Look at ammo"

[mighty viper]

Ok ok

I agreed anyway

[frail kestrel]

ok but if this is also hidden why is anyone even telling people to look at ammo stats

[radiant fog]

good. you better. im holding alot of baguettes hostage

[mighty viper]

Imo a gun should display damages for all ammo

[near estuary]

[mighty viper]

But I’m way too lazy to make this UI

[frail kestrel]

its me im people, especialyl cuz iirc you cant see bullet stats in the gun's detail view

[mighty viper]

And less is more

[near estuary]

yeah but like
the ammo can do that in a simpler way

[frail kestrel]

so unless i happen to own the bullets i just gotta know from memory

could be wrong/fixed by now though

[near estuary]

me when details tab

[radiant fog]

until you seperate the modifiers between HP, FMJ and AP, the visual values unless 100% correct to a certain enemy type, will allways be confusing

there is no 2 ways about it

[frail kestrel]

this time you werent paying attention, take a look at this #╓☢stalker-chat message

[radiant fog]

just mouse over the bullet in the details

[near estuary]

you can't?

[radiant fog]

in the guns details

[near estuary]

news to me

[radiant fog]

it says what ammo it uses and you can mouse over it

like..

[frail kestrel]

idk maybe its another one of those me issues, same as broken artifecat crafting

[frail kestrel]

i thought it should too but my memory says it doesnt happen

[radiant fog]

it literally does.

[near estuary]

[frail kestrel]

idk havent played in a while maybe this was a bug that got fixed in 0.94?

[radiant fog]

[near estuary]

idk, I don't remember this ever happening

[frail kestrel]

me issue then, not the first time lol

or rather, everything i own fucking being weird

but whatver

[radiant fog]

i thought i was schizo

[frail kestrel]

no its one of those things that only happen to like 3 people

[radiant fog]

gamma minorities?

[near estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1235322319807975474/1108862500675530782.gif

[frail kestrel]

remember one of the like 5 times i asked about artefact crafting not working and every time people stopped trying to help me after i confirmed that yes i did everything right and its genuinely bugged

because basically nobody else hasthe issue

[radiant fog]

i dont even know what issue you are having or had

[frail kestrel]

idk i'd swear you were one of those trying but not really helping ppl lol

[radiant fog]

thanks for that

[frail kestrel]

not trying to insult but well, it didnt help me

[open sentinel]

New game nightmare , this is pain in the ass carry weight was terrible

[frail kestrel]

not saying it was a bad attempt

[radiant fog]

i dont recall helping you with anything like that. but then again, i interact with tons of peoples issues daily so i dont remember frankly

what was the issue you were having?

[frail kestrel]

when crafting any artefact the results are always at around 30% durability no matter what

despite confirming several times with different people that i am in fact doing everything correctly and the ingredients are all at 90+

[radiant fog]

you are on a base modlist ye? no disabled, added or enabled mods?

[frail kestrel]

this has persisted through several updates too, it has never worked correctly for me both when combining empty+idkwhatiforgot(pprobably kjellyfish) to make full empty as well as when filling that empty with mutant parts

[frail kestrel]

technically not right now but i have tested this several times with stock gamma to the same effect

[radiant fog]

you have crafting from stashes mod?

[frail kestrel]

no i did it in inventory

didnt even know thats a mod that exists

[near estuary]

sidorovich swapping his artefacts with shitty ones

[frail kestrel]

most likely explanation so far

[radiant fog]

other than giving you a clean script that handles that in the first place, i wouldnt know what would cause that. lets hope it gets fixed with 0.9.5 then ig

[frail kestrel]

thanks lol, thats my current plan

[radiant fog]

since there has been a good bunch of fixes for the "crafting from stashes" mod being added by default, so lets hope that also fixes your issue

[frail kestrel]

im not even using it but maybe it helps, after all it shouldnt even be a thing in the first place

[radiant fog]

its a neat addition for 0.9.5 ngl. we just hope the "using the low condition artis" or "giving the wrong condition results" was fixed properly

but from testing it seems that way

[frail kestrel]

easy fix for that, just have only one of each in range :silly face i cant fucking find:

[radiant fog]

[crystal kernel]

Huge fan of the GoG version

Just one question

Why it so easy to break quest markers for some missions

[near estuary]

wdym

[crystal kernel]

Find detectors and find corpse missions

[radiant fog]

ah.. sidorovich shipment, find detector prototype and find missing duty soldiers

[crystal kernel]

Apparently entering and leaving the map without finding them breaks the marker

[radiant fog]

long standing bug tied to those tasks

shoulda been fixed tho. emphasis on "should have"

[haughty saffron]

so in the new update all guns of the same caliber will deal the same damage?

[radiant fog]

"Why does -1092 recoil not go the opposite way or have no recoil at all "

[radiant fog]

they already do

[haughty saffron]

some guns had a damage stat higher than others

unless it was only visual

[radiant fog]

well yes. you have outliers. that doesnt go away but those small numericals has no difference in kill count

same shit

its only the visual gun damage. that was never relevant to 99% of you in the first place tbh

[frail kestrel]

the gun damage displayed apprently just isnt the actual gun's damage and the actual real damage is the same or nearly the same for most same caliber weapons, or so ive been told

barring shit like getting yelled at for 'not reading' because you suck at explaining and i miss understood

[radiant fog]

same caliber gun = same shit, how it acts, the damage, etc. essentialy

most of modifiers is tied to the ammo modifiers

[hushed pier]

so ur telling me the toz double barrel 300 dmg is just for show

chi,era hunter

[radiant fog]

yes. cuz it doesnt do 300 damage if you shoot that at a mutant

you have mutant modifiers on buckshot

and HP

[near estuary]

are we still on this

[frail kestrel]

again

[radiant fog]

apperently

[frail kestrel]

funnily timed random encounter

[hushed pier]

yeh then that dmg stat should deffor be removed

[radiant fog]

its the same as "600 dmg" federal still taking more shots than 23x75 with its visual 300 dmg

[near estuary]

[hushed pier]

its comparativley confusing

[radiant fog]

to kill a pseudogiant

6-8 for .338 and 4-5 with 23x75 on a weak pseudogiant

[frail kestrel]

plot twist, pesudos have a secret 20% damage modifier against deer hunter rifle. because theyre not deer and really offended you'd imply such

[radiant fog]

true and real

[hushed pier]

other mutants are no offended then?

[radiant fog]

who knows. we havent kept other ones alive enough to interview them

[near estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1235322319807975474/1108862500675530782.gif

I'd ask freedom for help

[radiant fog]

[hushed pier]

plenty in duty base

[radiant fog]

just as you said that. a random dog ran past me being next to the technician in rostok

[near estuary]

psysucker for me

took half my psy health with phantoms

[radiant fog]

kitsenko is the only one left after a few ingame weeks

the rest died off and they refuse to reinforce

[hushed pier]

lotta dogs in rostok and not just the mutants

dont tell petrenko i said that

crazy sks molot is endgame weapon but only b tier

[crystal kernel]

Hound dogs

Cryin' all the time

[radiant fog]

hope you werent around during the SKS tactical era

[hushed pier]

nah tell me

[radiant fog]

its what molot replaced eventualy cuz the sks tactical had rails, some absurd rpm and shit

[crystal kernel]

What

Sks good?

[hushed pier]

i was around

[crystal kernel]

Illegal

[radiant fog]

it wasnt good back then, it was "absurdly over the top good" imo

[hushed pier]

have you seen meowie making sks upgrade kits

omg

so sexy

just like did for the kedr and smg aug

and pistols

that man

[crystal kernel]

When are we getting .50 AE Mauser C96

[hushed pier]

no we need another ak reskin

[radiant fog]

jarvis, add another m4 with 20 lasers and over the top furniture

and 40 angled foregrips

[crystal kernel]

Put a couch on it

[frail kestrel]

ohh btw whats up with upgrade kits seemingly being great, and a somewhat interesting mechanic, but existing for like 12 weapons total so unless you know them from memory and where they spawn it effectively becomes rarely useful before the late-end game where you have tons of random weapons

[crystal kernel]

One weapon pack from the CoC days had an AR in
.50 Beowulf and that was pretty litty

What a Chad cartridge

[frail kestrel]

genuinely what the fuck, i thought gamma had seperate models for each scope. not spawning them in game like this

[radiant fog]

because its completely seperate models and its a bunch of extra work for alot of 3dss implementations, attachments and all that afaik

not entirely sure the reasoning. but not many people making new models as is, only importing/porting them

and thats also alot of work it seems

[crystal kernel]

So no modularity

[radiant fog]

then lets not even begin to mention repositioning for each sight combination, etc

[hushed pier]

the weapons are not built with modularity in mind

[frail kestrel]

there exists a mod for that by now but last i checked it has compatibility issues, also idk if its even good or if it say, lags a lot

[radiant fog]

MAS. it breaks alot

since 3dss changes happen quite frequently, and MAS has alot of limitations on its own

[frail kestrel]

technically every weapon is one of those AKs with integrated welded on scope like the thing you get in SoC

[radiant fog]

but each gun still has to have the 3dss work done to it in the first place

[crystal kernel]

This is like Nazi Germany

[radiant fog]

[crystal kernel]

Now

Put some SW blasters in there

It has just occurred to me that I am free from #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[hushed pier]

political

[crystal kernel]

Your honor

Subjectivity

[near estuary]

nothing subjective here

[hushed pier]

!barn @crystal kernel 60 days

[dawn marten]

@crystal kernel has been barned for 60 days ⠀

[crystal kernel]

Damn, there's a rules section

[near estuary]

[radiant fog]

rules are meant to be broken amirite

[near estuary]

yeah but he didn't even know there were any

[radiant fog]

"your honor. i just spammed the N word. but i didnt know there was a rules channel"

[near estuary]

well, have a read https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/977215468299505784

[crystal kernel]

Reeee

[hushed pier]

who actually sits there and reads them tho

[near estuary]

me?

[crystal kernel]

I need the backstory on this one

[radiant fog]

if you have common sense for acting accordingly in public spaces, you wouldnt really have to

but we're gamers

[near estuary]

it's not like you're required to read them before getting access to the server

[radiant fog]

!mp

[dawn marten]

@crystal kernel
For information related to multiplayer, read this: #╭📖faq message

[hushed pier]

its like reading the terms of service

[near estuary]

no backstory to speak of other than what's written there

[near estuary]

no, not really

[hushed pier]

like nah china can have my shit i aint reading that

[near estuary]

I mean

you can do that if you want

but it's retarded

[crystal kernel]

I was hoping for an incident

[near estuary]

cuz your ass is gonna get a rude awakening eventually

[near estuary]

couldn't tell you a specific one

look it up yourself if you want

[hushed pier]

yes and im gonna act shocked when it happens

[near estuary]

truly a GAMMA server member

[crystal kernel]

Is that Max Caufield

[near estuary]

[crystal kernel]

My favorite STALKER

[near estuary]

shakabrah

[crystal kernel]

Hella artifacts

[near estuary]

max cauliflower

[radiant fog]

i sent you the link to info on it

you can probably deduct the rest yourself

[crystal kernel]

Thank you, Bob

You'll be promoted to assistant manager in no time

[frail kestrel]

someone accidentally mined bitcoins and blamed the newly installed mod for it, this has set back multiplayer development by 50 years because it nuked the one working mod

[crystal kernel]

I have a discord friend who uniromically likes LiS

No idea how

[frail kestrel]

what is that

[hushed pier]

blobflin from that profile pic a bit of starving is good for you

[crystal kernel]

A game about teenagers written by middle-aged frenchmen

[near estuary]

that's kinda what he is

well

if he had any authority on whatsoever

best he can do is yell at grok

[crystal kernel]

I love Grok

Great model

[near estuary]

yeah me too

cool little frenchie

[frail kestrel]

i can do that too and for free, though probably only once

[frail kestrel]

is mention the mecha hitler incident also against the rules?

like whats the leeway here

[near estuary]

take that shit to #🎪bruh-fart if you must

[hushed pier]

im groking it rn

[crystal kernel]

No idea. Based and circuit pilled

[hushed pier]

https://tenor.com/view/yakub-talking-yapping-agartha-gif-17333318641851140952

[crystal kernel]

You know what underrated 2010's character I adore?

Aiden Pearce

[near estuary]

dry and skom are watching closely

[hushed pier]

brainfart should be named agartha

[crystal kernel]

Blurged

So, look

I'm to understand there are big revolvers

But all I have is MP-12

Or whatever

[near estuary]

and

there's a grand total of one big revolver in gamma

[crystal kernel]

And I need .500 mag

[near estuary]

the rsh12

[crystal kernel]

Beautiful

[near estuary]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/smith-wesson-model-500-performance-center

[crystal kernel]

Gorgeous

[sick yoke]

Remove gun damage stat in todo is wild lol

[near estuary]

scroll up if you need the specifics

[crystal kernel]

Todo?

[near estuary]

but I think you already know why

[near estuary]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/915515500686086145

[crystal kernel]

Oh

That aint the dog from Wizard of Oz

[sick yoke]

Can you link it

[near estuary]

#╓☢stalker-chat message

scroll up from this

[sick yoke]

I’m pretty sure it’s just going to be grok saying something like “erm damage isn’t actually important to know” or something

[near estuary]

tldr: something something gun damage stat tells you nothing

[near estuary]

it's not

not the gun one anyway

[sick yoke]

Wow I guessed right

[near estuary]

I mean, it's not exactly a mystery

[tall solar]

i was about to ask if 0.9.5 was out

then i went to check #📢development

[near estuary]

me when

[tall solar]

warms my heart to see ts is still going

[tall solar]

no yeah

i went to check before asking

[radiant fog]

rare occurance

[near estuary]

[radiant fog]

we need to celebrate

drinks on me

[tall solar]

lmao

[radiant fog]

🍻

[tall solar]

a song that reminds me an afwul lot of stalker gaming showed up on my playlist

sparked interest on stalker again

came back to check on goat mod

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-tony-sopranos-gif-21377332

[hushed pier]

this server aint the same anymore

people checking

[radiant fog]

true. lets nuke it before people become informed, smart and not lazy

[hushed pier]

agartha approves

[sick yoke]

Anyway removing gun damage from the card only makes sense if all guns of the same caliber have the same base damage and that the flavor text is actually accurate

They’re uh

Currently not

[radiant fog]

they pretty much do tho

[near estuary]

well, that's for grok to fix

and most of them are

[crystal kernel]

Guns that look cooler do more damage

[radiant fog]

the 1-4 difference in damage between the like 3 guns in the entire game makes 0 difference in reality

keeping a shitty. confusing value for people to get hung up on for those is silly

[sick yoke]

I mean

[crystal kernel]

I agree

[radiant fog]

explain why 600 dmg dvl takes almost twice as many shots than 23x75 with 300 damage to kill a pseudogiant then

i'll wait

[near estuary]

No, I'm not explaining to another newbie why his gazillion damage Deer Hunter does nothing

[sick yoke]

Since the amb is damage bugged/buffed again it does have like 15 extra damage compared to baseline 9x39s

[radiant fog]

and what is 15 damage in reality

tell me in hit power

thats right

you dont know

[crystal kernel]

I encountered my first Gamma psuedogiant yesterday... why do they leap? Chimera already do that

[sick yoke]

0.15?

It’s just dividing by 100

[near estuary]

albino giants do that for fun

[sick yoke]

The white pseudos leap

[radiant fog]

with or without bone modifiers

[sick yoke]

Because they’re secretly snorks in disguise

[crystal kernel]

They're so silly

[radiant fog]

its pointless to keep it when the 15 turns into 0.15, then you shot at 20 meters and had damage dropoff of 10%, then you hit a leg and now its 0.7x modifier

[sick yoke]

Bone modifiers wouldn’t change an increase/decrease in base damage because they’re multipliers

[hushed pier]

why dont technicians buy jewlery anymore

my fkn money

[radiant fog]

and thats not to mention faction resistances

so now you add another factor for pen and damage

its completely fucking useless to show the player

[sick yoke]

Every bullet gets affected by those factors the same amount

[near estuary]

"why my 50 damage gun not kill 50 HP Sin??"

[radiant fog]

yes but you have so many factors, the flat value for visual gun damage is pointless

thats why showing it doesnt make sense

if 50 isnt 50, why show it

[crystal kernel]

Sin are furries, for they carry a knot in them at all times

[near estuary]

that's freedom

mercs are femboys

bandits goth girls

[crystal kernel]

Duty are chads, then

[near estuary]

*chuds

[hushed pier]

@mercsupremacist

oh he changed his name

[near estuary]

kinda miss him

[near estuary]

no, he left

[frail kestrel]

those factors still give different end results depending on raw damage

50 -20%-5%*0,9 is still less than 75-thesame

[sick yoke]

Now we’ve just circled back to what I originally said though

[crystal kernel]

Mercs wear blue. Blue is best color.

[frail kestrel]

oh i didnt read that

[radiant fog]

so why does mentioning raw damage matter then

[hushed pier]

are u sure

[near estuary]

pretty sure

[hushed pier]

i seens on linux support thread

[near estuary]

idk why

[hushed pier]

not a while back

[sick yoke]

It’d only make sense to remove the damage from the card if the numbers were standardized per caliber

[radiant fog]

they are tho. you have like 3 outliers in the entire game

shakal, amb and... what else?

BRN?

[sick yoke]

A lot more than 3

[frail kestrel]

did you just not read my message or did i make some unfortunate typo

[near estuary]

idk

[radiant fog]

tell me all of them then and i'll check their scripts. even then, you have no difference in kill count

removing the visual gun stat is a net positive. no one will convince me otherwise

[random grail]

Left like prof

[near estuary]

yeah but I don't miss prof

just a fuckass cat pfp

[random grail]

But i do

[real crypt]

Do you miss me

[radiant fog]

prof was annoying, but funny at times ngl

[near estuary]

you're still here

[random grail]

Uhh

Yes

[frail kestrel]

btw has anyone considered instead of removing it to fix it so it displays the actual gun's stat value that gets used for calculations, or alternatively if you say "0.15 sucks ass" then multiplying it by like 100 or 1000 or something

[near estuary]

come to think of it, #╓☢stalker-chat is much more active since you got the shit role

[radiant fog]

yes, and there isnt enough screen space to make sure people understand what it does to each individual faction and enemy type

[real crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-me-slime-rancher-this-is-me-if-you-even-care-if-you-even-care-cute-gif-8714223184474847601

[radiant fog]

its better to just get rid of it since most of the base info is hidden anyways

[real crypt]

Wherever I go, people talk

[radiant fog]

removes confusion and gets people to use guns based on caliber, not the visual gun damage

[frail kestrel]

my whole point just was to unhide the base info and now you go well the base info is hidden so it should be hidden

[radiant fog]

why unhide the base info

tell me

[frail kestrel]

more info -> better informed decision, and more accurate comparison with things like the not actuall 600 damage rifle

[real crypt]

The bigger the boolet, the bigger the damage

[radiant fog]

i agree, its either "Showing nothing" or "show everything"

but that doesnt mean we should slam a whole excel spreadsheet into someones face when they mouse over a weapon to make it relevant

[frail kestrel]

i never said that lmao

[radiant fog]

thats what you are implying

[near estuary]

you want to unhide everything tho

to give more info

[radiant fog]

you literally said to unhide base info

[near estuary]

which 99,9% of people won't understand

[radiant fog]

thats showing all the calculations besides base damage

[frail kestrel]

no thats not what i meant?

those calculations are always the same regardless of the actual weapon anyways right?

[radiant fog]

oh my

god

[frail kestrel]

aside from, maybe, sniper rifles having less damage falloff, bullet stats which already exist on the bullet

[sick yoke]

That’s fucked up, grok deleted the post he made that listed all the weapons with different damages

Why would he do that

[radiant fog]

doubt. he probably just have it all updated in the database website anyways

cuz those sheets havent been updated for ages

https://stalker-gamma-db.pages.dev/

[sick yoke]

No he made a post on the discord with it where he listed the % change from baseline

[radiant fog]

when?

[near estuary]

I remember that

[sick yoke]

He even put weird random red circle emoji on some of them

[radiant fog]

aah. that

no clue then tbh.

[sick yoke]

Yeah that post is gone for whatever reason

Well whatever

[radiant fog]

it was probably in to:do ngl so he might have removed it if it was not changed or he already changed it

[sick yoke]

Since that’s gone unless oflin ego searches and shows up with the list I don’t know all the guns that have it changed

[radiant fog]

i can ask about it when possible

[near estuary]

#╓☢stalker-chat message

discussed here

[radiant fog]

ye im aware of what he was refering to

ive seen the post aswell

but i'll ask about the post being removed/if there was any relevancy to it when possible

[real crypt]

Hot take

Just remove all gun stats

Use gun based on boolet size and how much you like how it looks

[radiant fog]

i agree with you ngl.

mag size, fire rate, is the only relevant thing that has any comparable value

[sick yoke]

Frozen take, max range should be removed first

[real crypt]

But but but but

Boolet size

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-2-tf2-meet-the-heavy-heavy-outsmart-bullet-gif-3422064966282193005

[sick yoke]

Should’ve been removed ages ago actually

[radiant fog]

make max range 0 so bullet despawns before leaving the barrel on all guns

[sick yoke]

Call it the SOC gamma patch

[radiant fog]

[real crypt]

Burst fire gun where all the bullets queue up in the barrel of the gun until you release the trigger

[tall minnow]

any mod that allow me to see how many task left for yellow stash ??

[sick yoke]

You could try and count how many tasks you’ve done with the tasks completed stat in the pda

[radiant fog]

that doesnt help since its 50% after 7 tasks. so he could have done 10 and not gotten one

[sick yoke]

But it’s rng anyway so there’s not much point imo

[lost flax]

kinda funny how I managed to sneak into a full bandit base at midnight with the help of NVGs only to get stuck searching for the yellow stash. Searched the roof, searched the crevices... turns out it was behind the wall out in the open lol.

Still, i managed to solid gear snake myself and thats not common for me in anomaly

then double tapped my assassination target that was asleep and booked it. No one shot me.

Lucky as hell.

[mental furnace]

no gold stash after 12 tasks

[near estuary]

just shoot everyone lol

[radiant fog]

"i just bought 90 stashes from sidorovich, why no gold stash. and doing 40 tasks from npc and i didnt get gold stash"

[near estuary]

[last drift]

Any of y'all know why the isg leader doesn't spawn in darkscape when you first spawn? I'm pretty sure you gotta take his quest first to actually progress

[sour steppe]

Sickkkk now I'm getting an unhandled expectation error fun

[radiant fog]

the ISG "base" moves from time to time

its never at the same spot afaik

[last drift]

lord

[radiant fog]

could be sawmill, could be pripyat, could be jupiter factory, etc. maybe im wrong cuz i rarely touched ISG but thats what i know

[mental furnace]

[near estuary]

please remove that dialogue option

PLEASE

[radiant fog]

no u

[near estuary]

@no u

[lost flax]

Ive done so many ironman playthrough where that's what I do.

Why do that when its more fun this way lol

[frail kestrel]

because stealthing around and quick escapes, making plans etc. can be fun?

[near estuary]

I was viewing it from a practical point of view

[frail kestrel]

oh i wasnt paying attention i though apollo said mass murder is more fun

[radiant fog]

massmurder is more fun. nothing like watching a pile of corpses flop around like fishes on land

shit.. was that an unintentional jab at myself?

[near estuary]

you okay

?

[radiant fog]

no

[near estuary]

[radiant fog]

send help

blinks twice

[near estuary]

@flop

[graceful quiver]

Redrum, cyka

Redrum

[random grail]

[vale lance]

Hi, what is the keybind for toggling grenade launcher on a rifle ? I used to do it with "V" and I can't find the new bind on https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/914216733810761798

[near estuary]

!ubgl

[dawn marten]

@vale lance

• Switch to Under-Barrel Launcher is not bound by default, go to Settings -> Keybinds and set it to a key
  -# If the bind doesn't work properly you can always revert the keybind separation by opening console with ~ and typing use_separate_ubgl_keybind 0
• V key is now Sight Aim Mode Toggle (aka canted scope) ONLY, by default

[vale lance]

Went 10 times through the keybinds menu and I didn"t notice it... Thank you !

It's actually pretty cool to have separated it from the canted sight. Which key/button would you assign to the underbarrel grenade ?

(in terms of convenience etc.)

[near estuary]

idk tbh

I think I have on H since I don't use exo powerups

[radiant fog]

i normaly unbind B to use that for UBGL, it will end up being on ALT in 0.9.5 afaik

as a double use key with auto looter when not in an inventory

[near estuary]

alt is my flashlight key

[radiant fog]

get rekt

[vale lance]

Super interesting ! Thanks

[hushed pier]

ah ok before he left he had changed his name and was on linux support thread

somewhere in the linux ecosystem

[lost bridge]

I was disappointed. I thought they were going to fly like crazy

[radiant fog]

let me make it up to you. 1 sec

[hushed pier]

wtf i cant exit basic light settings

had to alt f4

[radiant fog]

here you go.

[lost bridge]

Not enough corpses but good enough!

Also damn nice explosion fx

[real crypt]

Bro take cover a psy storm is about to pop

[urban shore]

yall got any tips for me to not keep dying when i start bandit run in dark valley ? the suit is so bad radiation keeps getting me might also be a skill issue

[lost bridge]

Definitely a skill issue

Bandit run is generally challenging

[covert arch]

what am i supposed to do? standing here does nothing really

[hushed pier]

Guys any tips for hybird armor

[haughty stone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/550869975385112606/1492587510239592528/20260411_122339.jpg?ex=69dbdff1&is=69da8e71&hm=7d873c59164b16a338f37ecadc8b3b44b94e994fa78a5426dc6939227efc6c5a&

[hushed pier]

like who drops them

[hushed pier]

buying from sid must be rich

[near estuary]

@cunning patio mood

[cunning patio]

whonthe fk

WHAT MAB

[cunning patio]

lowkey me every Saturday

+lidl

[near estuary]

I can smell the lidl bakery

[clever terrace]

zona space program

[near estuary]

what mod is that

[fallen atlas]

This clip wins the world
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxllQEX9-d-6M2wfJip1mZr1MDVYP08-7c?si=EvbUckKmW5ryY4Xm

[lethal steeple]

#📎to-do message

[wintry jackal]

LMFAO i saw that

genuinely so funny

[lethal steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1171418455740776462/1477502631978078379/reverse.gif

[vivid ridge]

what's the mcm settung to turn on bullet counter

[remote tide]

in terms of getting stashes from PDAs
does the rank of the guy affect the loot?

[remote tide]

right in the middle of hold your ground lmao

[glad spoke]

[remote tide]

so
that may have broken the mission lol

[valid loom]

Clear Sky, Loners, and on Sin sometimes

[mental furnace]

yeap

do it after emission

[valid loom]

[mental furnace]

[lament lynx]

https://youtu.be/wTo2kvMyN9k

[remote tide]

the game is taunting me

[lost flax]

maaaan why did they remove the triangular front block sight.
Doesn't that act as a gas block and basically the gun wont work without it?

Now this looks like an airsoft weapon.

this used to be my go to weapon. rip

[tacit sorrel]

ive reached a new mod limit before capitulation, 742

[blissful ivy]

yes and no

you can get gas blocks that dont have sights

which means this is entirely not out of the ordinary

[blissful ivy]

someone had around 970 one time

idk how it didnt explode

[valid loom]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[tacit sorrel]

im sure i could get more, hold on let me work this out

i got work tomorrow but ill call in, its worth it

[blissful ivy]

i dont need more, theres not enough mods worth it to me

most are more trouble than its worth

[tacit sorrel]

oh absolutely

90% of my actual added mods are visual or additional gear

[crystal kernel]

Yoyo

[crystal kernel]

No idea. I guess that would explain why a lot of games leave that sight on there matter what

But it's ugly, so

[blissful ivy]

it doesnt explain that, its just that game devs are lazy usually

could be removing the sight post the whole time if they wanted, just need to leave the gas block

its ugly and obstructive, but its easier to leave it there

[crystal kernel]

Damn

They just like me, fr fr

[peak geyser]

I can easily get to 1000 by adding 500 DLTX mods that override one another

[steep elm]

yenno

maybe sometimes Darkscape ain't so bad.

https://tenor.com/view/click-clicking-sound-sound-effect-gif-10057360

(also kinda wild that Advanced tools can spawn in Darkscape stashes)

[crystal kernel]

Advanced tools in Darkscape

Wowzer

[steep elm]

Yeah I think it's my first time finding one in this region.

but also the Nomad suit lol

wild stash

[strange pasture]

guys, where can i find this artefact in central pripyat for ecologists questline? it says it's in an unmarked electric field (it's actually marked)

[wicked zinc]

I need some fun run ideas to do while waiting for the new update. Best stalker 2 and now I'm looking for another kick

[severe prairie]

Maybe here.

[blissful ivy]

not really, the place sucks so much ass no one likes it

so giving it a purpose is nice

[strange pasture]

Yup, found it! Thank you though. The quest marker is way off

[steep elm]

Yeah

It's usually the 1 region that's notorious for giving me busyhands

[blissful ivy]

its usually the 1 region notorious for making me commit cobain

[plush leaf]

after what feels like 10 years since I joined this server, i can finally chat in here

[spiral gyro]

3 years for me lmaon

lmao*

i only just noticed it the other night i was like holy shit what i can go in there now?

loooove that it’s way less busy

[plush leaf]

i think i joined when gamma was still a mod guide in github. there was no launcher or anything

[spiral gyro]

i’m in my hideout getting nothing done because i can’t decide what two rifles i wanna take to the next story mission

i’ve been really trying to use more guns this run since there’s so many and i have a tendency to stick to one the entire run

so i’ve been going assault rifle + marksman combo everywhere

[lyric tide]

You sound like you need more customization options
Artigrok adds new anomalous ammotypes to give some lesser popular calibers more pep
Drag and drop caliber conversions lets you (in a balanced way) change weapon calibers

Its how i convert a G3 into an HK33 and a break action Baikal 7.62x54r into a 12 Gauge slug rifle that can pop heads at medium+ range

Or an FNP90A2 TR Tactical from 5.7 to 9mm so its able to fire rat shot and incendiary ammo

Converting an RSH12 from 12.7x55 to .357 was also a great choice

Although they recently buffed that gun in 3DSS by a lot so its even good now when firing 12.7x55

[plush leaf]

any recommendation for a vibrant lut?

kinda bored with dreadful autumn zone. want to try lush & vibrant spring/summer

[inner nova]

havent played in a while and i remember a random bug that would sometimes hide your minimap and hud stuff, it just happened in dead city - anybody remember the lil trick to getting your visuals back without reloading ?

nevermind i turned my hud off gawd damn son

[rocky flume]

How does the RSH-12 compare to a Deagle?

[near estuary]

deagle only shoots HP ammo

so it's shit against stalkers

[radiant fog]

completely different use cases. .357 HP is for mutants primarily, RSH uses 12.7x55 which only has FMJ and AP. so one is for stalkers, the other for mutants

[rocky flume]

Meh, worked decently for me in the past

[near estuary]

yeah it works well enough in the south

sometimes anyway

against bandits especially

[rocky flume]

Anything works against bandits

[near estuary]

yeah that's kinda the point

meaning you're literally better off using a PM with AP ammo for anything else

[rocky flume]

Nah

[near estuary]

or you download the funny ammo mod

[rocky flume]

No

[near estuary]

for .357 FMJ

[rocky flume]

I just don't like dinky soviet pistols

[near estuary]

chad soviet workhorse pistol vs. overengineered impractical western bullshit

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-tanks-military-army-armed-forces-gif-16355490374737749342

[rocky flume]

The game doesn't know it's impractical in real life

[near estuary]

it's impractical in-game too

[rocky flume]

Big gun fire big bullet and make big noise

No it isn't

Skill issue

[near estuary]

grizzly and goonan are simply better

or you know

the WINCHESTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY0WXE1AZb0
this playing in the background while I'm shooting up the bandit base with my lever action

[rocky flume]

You mean the rifle that fires the same cartridge but is heavier

[near estuary]

MY NAME IS JOHN MARSTON

[near estuary]

ello oflin

[rocky flume]

And can't be 1 handed

[near estuary]

again

[rocky flume]

Since you care about stats can you actually explain what the difference is between the 2 handguns besides one taking different ammo, which was a given

[near estuary]

!shit // can't be bothered, look it up yourself

[dawn marten]

@rocky flume Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[rocky flume]

All you had to do mate

[sick yoke]

oh right winchester has higher damage than the .357 pistols

forgot about that one

[rocky flume]

It's also not a pistol

[fading mantle]

mrrp mrrp mraaowww

[sick yoke]

so i guess grok is doing the "remove damage from the stat card but don't actually standardize damage per caliber" thing

shrug emoji i guess

[near estuary]

isn't the winchester like the one exception

one that was done on purpose anyway

[sick yoke]

I don’t remember if it’s on purpose

[near estuary]

hmmm

[sick yoke]

Either way I think it’s silly to do it without first standardizing damage to caliber

[near estuary]

yeah I hope grok comes around to that

[tall minnow]

anyone know what ui mod is this i like the inventory ?

[blissful ivy]

search sota in #1035807043933720576

its sota ui

[tall minnow]

thankq i feel like i should start doing modding for ui is it hard ? to create mod for gamma?

by that i meant UI mod