╓☢stalker-chat

[timber flower]

Where as with companions and that mod which has their armor or use armor they are given

It already preexists on them

It isn't generated

[limpid island]

oh

[timber flower]

Take what I say with a glass of salt though, I'm not certain this is the current implementation of it

[mental garden]

hey guys, Im playing on a short keyboard and I do,t have access to function keys. My keyboard is kinda borked so the fn shenanigans dont work either. How do I tutn off the campfire save only ? Cuz it's kinda irratating to lose 30 minutes of playing just because I can only save at campfires

[timber flower]

Besides the obvious learn to save more often

[timber flower]

#╭📖faq message

[limpid island]

#╭📖faq message

[mental garden]

😭

[mental garden]

Thanks

[limpid island]

aren't there campfires all over the map

[timber flower]

On most areas, yes

I would suggest sticking with the campfires

[timber flower]

Or change your keybinds for the daddy save

You can save every 180 seconds from last campfire save

[limpid island]

you recommend I turn on "only display visited campfires" option?

[timber flower]

I would yes

[limpid island]

I will die

[timber flower]

Depending on which playthrough of the game you are

It's fun to have an incentive to explore more

[limpid island]

1st playthrough ever of gamma

[mental garden]

Didnt knew you could do that neat

[timber flower]

Did you play all the three basic games or Anomaly, other mods etc?

[limpid island]

only played the trilogy like 1 and a half years ago, didn't finish call of pripyat after reaching pripyat laundry

[timber flower]

Do you like to play the stalker on a more slow scout approach or do you enjoy the sprinting more action style?

[limpid island]

a mix of both I'd say, definitely gonna be slow af in the start and avoid a lot of fights

[timber flower]

Then I'd say yes, turn off all campfires from being visible until you find them

[limpid island]

in my headcanon, stuck with lvl 1 and 2 pda I cannot see campfires I haven't visited. but with the military pda (level 3) I might enable that option

[timber flower]

That sounds fun

[limpid island]

because it can receive a ton of more information

[timber flower]

I agree

Level 2 better maps, level 3 all info and the likes

[limpid island]

also using map label option, but gonna enable "don't show location labels and faction labels unless visited" option for that

location labels unlocked at lvl 2 pda, faction labels at lvl 3 pda

[timber flower]

I go with that by default honestly, it's more enjoyable for me to slowly approach places, talk with people

I really like the conversations with faction leaders

Wish there were more options to talk with SIN/Mono or other hostile factions

Or more NPCs surrendering

Learn a bit more about them, maybe make them non hostile to you if you spare them (outside of Sin and Mono ofc)

[limpid island]

well with mercs you can pay them for a cease fire for a time

to go to their base and gamble with faction patches

or so I've heard

[timber flower]

You can

Or you can use a disguise

[limpid island]

there is a mod that does, that RE:DONE combat

[timber flower]

Just get a mask and a 100% merc suit with a patch

Then slowly walk up and do the trading/roulette

[limpid island]

idk if I should enable it or not

[timber flower]

OH

I might get that then

[limpid island]

its the zone and everyone there would like to keep their stuff to themselves

The mod doesn't clarify which factions get the higher surrender chance

[timber flower]

I can probably find it in the files

[limpid island]

I would see loners, bandits and maybe freedom surrender for a chance to live

but duty, mono, sin would never

[timber flower]

Merc should not surrender since you don't speak english

[limpid island]

would be great, setting custom surrender chance for different faction (maybe even the rank of the stalker)

using these 2 additional combat mods

idk which one should override which

only conflict is xr_danger.script

[timber flower]

What is the script?

[limpid island]

the file I mean

[timber flower]

Is it a short file or a longer one?

[limpid island]

ig its to control the behavior of NPCs when they realize they are in danger or not

[timber flower]

I'd say Long Range then

[limpid island]

yeah

[timber flower]

Since that one seems specific on when they should initiate the combat state or not

[limpid island]

I tried with the long range npc combat, went on a left side hill near the military checkpoint and sniped

Now idk if this was normal AI behavior, but this one guy kept strafing in and out of cover to check my direction

seems like the mod is working as intended

[raven python]

guys for nvg what does this blurred overlay mean? it means i have blurred vision?

[timber flower]

You have to be more specific

[timber flower]

Yes

It's the blurred partial vision you get from early generation of nightvision

[near estuary]

only outside the goggles
like on the edges

[timber flower]

I would recommend keeping it that way

It's the reason why you get better NVGs

[near estuary]

uhhh

the first gens don't have a blurred background

so that's an advantage if anything

[timber flower]

First gens are also barely any good

The quality of what you see through them is abysmal

[raven python]

dont see much diff but it is ok

you guys know where to bind the key for bino night vision

[near estuary]

=

[timber flower]

Yes, in the basic keybinds settings

[raven python]

by default it is M but where i can change the setting

[near estuary]

oh bino, not scope

nvm

[near estuary]

I think you confused the background with the NVG quality

[raven python]

dunno which for bino

[near estuary]

try the normal Settings -> Controls -> Keybinds
or MCM keybinds

[raven python]

honestly dont see much diff i set to no overlay and use gen 2 NVG still a little blurry

[timber flower]

Do you have links for them?

[limpid island]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1328914692021944401
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/redone-combat-ai

[near estuary]

!redone

[dawn marten]

@timber flower
If you are using RE:DONE mods, please read the [comprehensive guide](#🔨modded-gamma-support message). We strongly recommend thoroughly reviewing this guide, as our support channels are primarily dedicated to G.A.M.M.A. issues. While we can offer some general assistance, specific support for RE:DONE-related issues will be limited, and you will often be directed back to the guide or its authors for detailed support.

[timber flower]

Time to activate my secret ability

Reading with comprehension

Ah it seems that it only partially works for mid save installs

It will have to do

[midnight heart]

Lmao why in hell does a veteran renegade have a DVL saboteur

They are literally bums 😭

[timber flower]

Renegades have their version of exo skeletons

They can afford higher tier weapons and this one was a veteran at that

Renagedes are scum of the scum which includes mass murderers, crazy scientists and psychopaths

Okay RE:DONE has a lot of shit but the mutants make it seem like a soup mod

I'll very happily take the combat enhacement though

[limpid island]

should I enable this on Arrival anomalies mod?

[limpid island]

some sniper rifles with dedicated scopes still have these fake 2d scopes, any way to fix them?

[random grail]

Is it 5.56 scout

Or 7.62.51 one

[limpid island]

5.56

[random grail]

It's not obtainable by default and doesn't support 3dss

[limpid island]

are Barrett M82, Walther WA 2000 not obtainable either?

they have 2D Scopes too

[random grail]

Yes

[random grail]

!shit

[dawn marten]

@limpid island Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[random grail]

https://stalker-gamma-db.pages.dev/?pack=gamma-0.9.4&cat=all-weapons&lang=en&view=table or

[heavy atlas]

Got from monolith at the barrier

[edgy ledge]

Wish Granter is love bombing you so you go visit him

[topaz bane]

I never used companions, can they die? Or they just get "knocked down"?

[inland spade]

they die

but they are noticeably tankier than ,,normal,, stalkers

scales with theyre rank

but them dying will reduce the rep with theyre faction and your reputation as a stalker

[topaz bane]

And can you heal them? Or they heal themselves?

[inland spade]

they heal themselves

[edgy ledge]

you haven't? Bro, I need my human shields

why should I waste my ammo n' meds if they have infinite of both

[subtle jewel]

Gamma's next update to introduce allocating a budget and shared inventory for companions to heal/shoot/spend from. Watch your pockets empty in real time as your companions empty a mag into a body

[topaz bane]

I dont see companions as human shields. If i would use a companion, i would be VERY selective and cautious.

[limpid island]

well damn Barrett being unobtainable is heartbreaking

my headcanon for UNISG spec ops in North

[random grail]

There's m98b

[limpid island]

so theoretically, if I get a reanimation mod for all 3 guns, they should work without issue right?

even though they don't spawn

[inner basalt]

is there a option that let's me decide how fast artifacts lose condition?

[mental furnace]

they dont

[inner basalt]

what mean?

[mental furnace]

they dont lose condition

[sick yoke]

Only perkifacts lose condition

[subtle jewel]

He probably means normal artifacts vs perkifacts

[inner basalt]

so like the sun?

[subtle jewel]

Any artifact without yellow text doesn't lose condition

[sick yoke]

Idk if there’s a way to change condition drain for perkis though

[inner basalt]

my sun artifact went from 100% to likr 20% in a hour

so that doesnt happen with normal artifacts?

[mental furnace]

nope

[subtle jewel]

Nah they stay at whatever percentage they are.

[sick yoke]

Does not

[inner basalt]

ive like found no artifacts so far its weird

[mental furnace]

[topaz bane]

Isnt there a mod that re-adds it? I remember seeing something

[sick yoke]

Oh neat

[inner basalt]

is the anomaly barret even well made like the other mods?

wish stalker gamma had a g11

https://tenor.com/view/heckler-%26-koch-g11-firing-assault-rifle-prototype-gif-15511282949145235685

my fave gun

[topaz bane]

Wasnt the barret vanilla and not a mod? Its just disabled i think?

[limpid island]

idk, will just get a reanimation mod

[topaz bane]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1360638759573655764

This one?

[limpid island]

yep

checking every single weapon right now in my list

is this supposed to be un-equippable?

any knife actually, can't equip other than the starter knife

[topaz bane]

Will probably need this too
https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1065168136577482753

[limpid island]

ok nvm there are just duplicate of knifes

[random grail]

Half of them are models used by npcs

[random grail]

!cheats btw

[dawn marten]

@random grail
Important!
Do not use weapons, armor, artifacts, PDAs, or any other items from the debug menu

🔸 These items may be test assets, outdated, or completely removed.
🔸 They lack proper 3D scopes, stats, animations, and balance.
🔸 This leads to issues such as misaligned scopes, broken parameters, crashes, and corrupted gameplay.

✅ Everything you need is already available in the normal game without the debug menu. Use only legitimately obtained items — this ensures the modpack works correctly.
If a bug or crash occurs with an item from the normal game, you must specify which item you used and how you obtained it. This will help support identify the problem more quickly.

⚠️ The debug menu is strictly for troubleshooting: testing quests, items, crashes, and technical issues.
If you spawn items from debug “for testing” or “for convenience” and then encounter problems, that is your responsibility. Support will not be provided in such cases.

ℹ️ The debug menu may only be used to fix errors, and only if the support team has given you specific instructions on what and how to do.

[topaz bane]

Man, seeing this really make me wish there were mods expanding melee weapons (not just replacing). I am not talking about swords, but why there is no firefighter axes, "blunt weapons" (baseball bats for example), improvised weapons (shovel, pipes and soo on)

[timber flower]

Arrival anomalies are fun

I also suggest C-Con Grass

[limpid island]

yeah I got the mod, but should I enable that specific option inside Arrival MCM menu? The "anomalies dynamic behaviour" option

[limpid island]

yep using that too

Will switch up my in-game weather grass and stuff every 2-3 weeks to simulate season chance

[timber flower]

The anomalies might move around and block some places

I like it

Was it annoying when it blocked a path and I had to go through another map? Yes
Was it a great experience on how the zone is sometimes? Yes you aren't the master of your fate, you play by the zone's rules

[limpid island]

hmm, I'll think about it

[blissful ivy]

#1230564330081357915

and if you use artigrok, you will need to delete one of the config folders for the buying/selling of .50BMG

usually you delete the one in the BUM mod

[scenic trench]

barrett got blacklisted?
... which lapua rifles are even "officially" obtainable anymore

[random grail]

Awsm and m98b

M82 is debug

[blissful ivy]

the M82 yeah

its been that way

for a long time

[scenic trench]

just had it drop few weeks ago before updating...?
shrugs

[random grail]

It's debug for few years

[blissful ivy]

broken install moment

[scenic trench]

dont remember if it was an M82

[topaz bane]

Why this instead of the other one?

[blissful ivy]

other one?

what other one

[blissful rampart]

Does any1 here has fresh gamma and has spare time to test prefetcher?

it's vital 🥺

[topaz bane]

forget

[blissful ivy]

what happened to your install

[blissful rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-gone-reduced-to-atoms-gif-26539274

[blissful ivy]

[topaz bane]

actually, unforgot it, can i use this instead for the ammo?
https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1065168136577482753

[blissful ivy]

like i said, just delete the configs for the ammo in the BUM mod

then it will be fine

and you have to add the volcano rounds to the gun's .ltx

but tbh those suck ass in their current version

so just use the base ammo

[topaz bane]

yeah, i dont care about the "volcano" ammo, but the crafting of "very high caliber" ammo being harder is more interesting

speaking of high caliber, i am wanting to install this:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/ssk-950-jdj-rifle

IT says that it needs the "Dark signal stand alone weapon audio", would it cause any problem in gamma? Also, does it work with 3dss?

[analog palm]

ermmmmm explode

i agree it's a cool gun but gamma needs less guns imo

although g11 would probably be one of better additions since it's not just another 556/545 rifle

[topaz bane]

i am confused, does this adds the barret or just the animations?
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/barrett-m822

[blissful ivy]

it doesnt need the dark signal audio

and no 3DSS

its old

[blissful ivy]

just anims iirc

its for anomaly, not gamma

[topaz bane]

Any mod to add 3dsss to it?

[blissful ivy]

no lol

juan doesnt give a shit

[topaz bane]

So i dont need it? Or i need?

[blissful ivy]

no you dont need it

BUM has all you need

[inner basalt]

is there thermal sights?

[hollow wadi]

A fair few, yes

[inner basalt]

when do they start appearing in venders?

[hollow wadi]

Anything marked with HV

I'm partial to T12

[inner basalt]

ok so the good once are level 4

they expensive?

[near estuary]

yeah

100k+

the EOTS is something like 350k

[limpid island]

just started reading the REDONE guide

is it worth it?

[near estuary]

uhhhhhhhhhh

I used it way back in the day

[limpid island]

not the reading part

[near estuary]

so I couldn't tell you

I've heard it's alright

[limpid island]

Yeah seems like you have to disable/change a lot of base gamma stuff

[near estuary]

but it makes some controversial changes

[limpid island]

such as?

[near estuary]

like night mutants being way more dangerous

you'll be better off asking someone else tho

[limpid island]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/ghillie-rework

is this mod compatible with gamma? if it is, which priority to place it at?

[near estuary]

maybe

just throw it to the bottom

[blissful ivy]

redone isnt really worth it imo

the base game mutants are fine

[limpid island]

👍

[limpid island]

can I still get these mods? without changing a bunch of stuff, I can disable some mods if necessary

[topaz bane]

You can use the re:vision standalone yeah. I am using

[vivid ridge]

i remember there bing a ground retex mod that makes dirt more green does anyone know what I am talking about

[gusty cosmos]

I wish you could've played a stalker campign on gamma

That would've been cool

[random grail]

You can play bootleg versions

[gusty cosmos]

What

[topaz bane]

You can play the story quests

[random grail]

Anomaly storylines are bootleg versions of og games

[gusty cosmos]

Im not talking about the anomaly campaign or the living legend or whatever

Like the shadow of chernobyl campaign or one of the other games

[random grail]

Living legend is bootleg version of soc
Mortal sin is bootleg clear sky
Operation afterglow is bootleg call of pripyat

[quasi lance]

I really wish the svd didn't have a artificially capped fire rate

[random grail]

Like they even take place in almost the same locations

[gusty cosmos]

Yeah they're definitely bootleg alright

Didn't really realise it till you said it

[near estuary]

Living legend is bootleg version of soc
is it?
only the first two or three quests are the same

agroprom and scorcher

[near estuary]

I mean, duh, the map is a mix of all the previous maps

[random grail]

Raid labs,find strelok,raid cnpp

[umbral summit]

what about DLSS?

[random grail]

Mortal sin is stopping sin instead strelok and operation afterglow is doing some stuff in jupiter/zaton/outskirts

[limpid island]

DLAA is a part of DLSS, so its all gonna come with the new SSS

FSR too

[umbral summit]

Damn, but good to know

in game TAA is killing my eyes

[limpid island]

funnily this is the one time TAA isn't so damn ghosty

[umbral summit]

true, but once you've experienced what DLSS/DLAA has to offer for the 1st time. You just can't unsee the imperfections in TAA

[limpid island]

anyways we need to travel back to 2013 and burn every harddrive with TAA shaders stored on it so that we enter the good anti-aliasing timeline

[umbral summit]

cant wait for DLSS 5

[limpid island]

yeah I use DLAA too, 4.5 with transformer model K is great.

still, its a solution to the deeper issue which all originates at the TAA point

[umbral summit]

Model K is actually still DLSS 4. Its Models M & L that are DLSS 4.5

namely Ultra Performance and Regular Performance (And they look like K without the FPS loss)

[limpid island]

oh, I thought they updated K too. nvm

[umbral summit]

Anyone know what happened to Rotten life?

[near estuary]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

you can find tons of reuploads on google if you REALLY want it

[sick yoke]

oh just realized grok updated his todo message with which guns had different damage numbers

half of those have been a thing since before 3dssg was added lol

[near estuary]

yeah I think that's what those red circles mean

[umbral summit]

well that sucks, but then again valid crashout

[umbral summit]

might find alternatives made by more sane people

[near estuary]

yeah there's like a million other texture packs that do the same thing

don't ask me for recommendations, I don't use any

[sick yoke]

the red circles are for the guns with higher than normal damage

oh wait never mind

yeah idk what the circles mean

[rigid stream]

assumed to be minor or major stat changes in values.

i like that he didn't touch other stats
svds having rof of 100 that supposed to be 60.

[near estuary]

100 is honestly better for balance

60 RPM for a semi-auto just sucks

might as well use a bolt action

[rigid stream]

svd are just boltaction but slightly faster

[subtle jewel]

It just means it is the worst offender

And yeah the list was made without the changes of 3DSSG, I just need to find the time to reprocess it with and updated dev branch

[topaz bane]

Deep Learning Slop Stagram 5 :p

[shadow cave]

Boxing combat would be sick as fuck

[vivid ridge]

did an update remove bullet counter?

[gusty cosmos]

why the hell is my reload button changing to f10

[quaint summit]

been playing with Enhanced Ammo Check as well as the magazine mods. they're fun but the keybinds are kind of clunky. i've been trying to have check and reload bound to the same key, but this isn't working very well - is there any way to have both bound to the same key with the input being controllable?
what I'm aiming for is like. varying the action based on the type of input. e.g. double-tapping or holding R to reload, and checking on a single press. i'm struggling to bind it as such, and i've tried single-press reload & double/hold check, but this doesn't work that well

[gusty cosmos]

who is doing this to me

[shadow cave]

If you have mags redux check under magazines in MCM, if not then you might've hit a key that disables part of your hud.

[inner basalt]

I accidentally went into the monolith base and killed everyone does that ruin the main story?

[glossy oriole]

yea

[mental garden]

Hey, does your reputation level influence anything ?

Im at the "brilliant" level of reputation and I don't see a whole lot changing

Even some monolith guys have a "brilliant" or "excellent" reputation level

And other question, Butcher's inventory seems bugged. He does not ressuply the ammo I bought like 3 days ago

[celest sparrow]

no

it only has an influence on Companion recruiting

[mental garden]

Sadge

[sick yoke]

no

[inner basalt]

so if im trying to get expert tools doing quests for the ship is best or quests for the train station?

[quasi lance]

pog

[inner basalt]

what is dat

[viscid warren]

how do you accidentally kill at least thirty people?

[quasi lance]

M4A1 Wages of Sin

[random grail]

M4a4 howl

[viscid warren]

what's next, loot boxes with gun skins?

custom knives and gloves????

[thick sedge]

cluelo

[quasi lance]

found it on an ecologist

[viscid warren]

yeah bro played a little too much CS:GO

[dull warren]

the wages of sin is so fucking uggly

[sick yoke]

I’m pretty sure that’s the point

[inner basalt]

I went in and had to kill 30 people to get to my target

[inner basalt]

how get

[dull warren]

they didn't tell u ur mans is hella good at throwing parties i guess

[shadow cave]

How do I change the picture in the photo of a loved one

I've tried to different mod guides, they didn't work. I tried modifying the files myself and that didn't work either.

Does anyone know how to change it?

[north ibex]

absolute dogshit

[quasi lance]

Mod

Literally called wages of sin on moddb

[viscid warren]

this just proves the fact that no matter how hard you try, you'll have to be a murderous psychopath in stalker

[inner basalt]

lol

[inner basalt]

lol

[viscid warren]

no, seriously. Check your playthrough's stats and get an average amount of stalkers you've killed per day

[burnt crest]

Is there a mod to make Important Faction NPCs not aggro. Like especially the player

[inner basalt]

so sin is a speed run on a time limit?

[blissful ivy]

mortal sin questline?

i mean after a certain point it is

[thick sedge]

is it

[blissful ivy]

im pretty sure once youre in limansk its gotta be done quick

or was it the hospital

idk

but at some point it does have a timer

(could be wrong, but i thought it did)

[thick sedge]

idk I'm pooping hope that helps

[limpid island]

@full flame you mean this? https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/shell-particles-redone

[maiden karma]

So i'm playing as a USIG and just came back from lab X-18
Should i keep the docs or give it to Dushman for 35k RU?

[thick sedge]

idk money is money

[inner basalt]

naw i ment playing as sin u are on a time limit basically right?

[blissful ivy]

no?

well you need artifacts for your lucifer artifact but that takes a while to become fatal

[inner basalt]

still a time limit

[sick yoke]

technically you can choose to not equip the knot so there's no time limit

but once you do equip it then yeah you're essentially on a time limit

[inner basalt]

also is it best to quest on the ship for loners or at the train station for freedom when trying to get expert tools

[near estuary]

yanov because there's more quests

also, the eco bunker is right next to it

[inner basalt]

bruh this guy wants me to go into the sarcophagus to get a pda fuck no

[near estuary]

yeah that's kinda a pointless task for me since I pretty much always end my playthrough by raiding the CNPP

if not beforehand because there's nothing to do after getting expert tools

[inner basalt]

I still need do story I havent even done a single story mission yet

[rigid stream]

lacking replayability sucked balls outside of using different guns for shit and giggles.

[astral estuary]

The siski a-life mod done fucked me up with monolith randomly spawning in bloodsucker village in AW

[inland spade]

With siski. I got mercenaries in agroprom IN MILITARY BASE

[fallen grail]

they are the vanguard squad scouting out, dont worry. The monoliths pulled up all the way to dead city just to kill me cause i buried too many of their brothers up north. They got turned into swiss cheese later

[inner basalt]

220K FOR A THERMAL WTF

[hollow wadi]

Ye

Like what do you actually expect, the thing makes spotting enemies comedically easy

[astral estuary]

Its less luckier to find it tbh

[hollow wadi]

Which will be removed as an option iirc

Also 220k is easy to come by

[astral estuary]

About 1 hour of quests lined up next to each other and 1 map apart

[inner basalt]

im now flat broke

[hollow wadi]

Did you at leave save before buying

[inner basalt]

I see why its 220k its wall hacks

[astral estuary]

You see from enemy pov

[atomic pebble]

lacking replayability in a freeplay

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-glorpshit-glorp-glorp-cat-alien-cat-alien-gif-9384904690345916257

[limpid island]

is this supposed to be hidden? its ADS is messed up

[rigid stream]

is not really wallhack since solid objects still conceals the thermal.

mostly it for bush wh

[inner basalt]

ya i realised that after I looked normally thought I was looking through walls lol

I wish you could turn the thermal off

[hollow wadi]

2/3 Armsel Protectas are available in GAMMA

[viscid warren]

yes because stalkers love one-of-a-kind guns apparently

[limpid island]

all 4 of these load fine, but the one with its stock folded (and the scope), is bugged

[inner basalt]

ive seen some of the sights are messed up and dont work

[hollow wadi]

Oh lmao

[limpid island]

any way to fix that folded stock one? a reanimation mod?

[hollow wadi]

!cheats

[dawn marten]

@limpid island
Important!
Do not use weapons, armor, artifacts, PDAs, or any other items from the debug menu

🔸 These items may be test assets, outdated, or completely removed.
🔸 They lack proper 3D scopes, stats, animations, and balance.
🔸 This leads to issues such as misaligned scopes, broken parameters, crashes, and corrupted gameplay.

✅ Everything you need is already available in the normal game without the debug menu. Use only legitimately obtained items — this ensures the modpack works correctly.
If a bug or crash occurs with an item from the normal game, you must specify which item you used and how you obtained it. This will help support identify the problem more quickly.

⚠️ The debug menu is strictly for troubleshooting: testing quests, items, crashes, and technical issues.
If you spawn items from debug “for testing” or “for convenience” and then encounter problems, that is your responsibility. Support will not be provided in such cases.

ℹ️ The debug menu may only be used to fix errors, and only if the support team has given you specific instructions on what and how to do.

[hollow wadi]

Don't take the one that has the debug name that ends with _aim

[limpid island]

well I am going through every weapon in debug menu and seeing if game crashes cause I added so much shit

[hollow wadi]

Then it's on you if you pull something that doesn't work

[limpid island]

right, I just ask to make sure I didn't break it

[inner basalt]

finally got expert tools pog

[hollow wadi]

I'd assumed you got it from a scripted NPC, but since it's debug menu stuff
FAFO, no support

[inner basalt]

this same guys been saying dont forget about the rf stash in cordan for like 100 hours

[hollow wadi]

Right click your PDA to dismiss it

[rigid stream]

thats a command now

[inner basalt]

I did that now they are telling me about another one lol

[viscid warren]

honestly I love how this prompt just tells you to NOT TOUCH ANYTHING lol

[hollow wadi]

Yeah you get a package every X amount of goodwill

[inner basalt]

do they have good stuff?

[viscid warren]

pretty effective for making sure the illiterate don't bury themselves in their own mistakes...

[hollow wadi]

So you probaly have 10-15 things in there

[rigid stream]

have to be in all caps since again
gamma players don't read

[hollow wadi]

Meds, bullet parts, cleaning stuff, ammo

[valid loom]

^^

[viscid warren]

meanwhile I should check if my recent ironsights issue is related to this

[inner basalt]

so just a normal stash?

[astral estuary]

Better sometimes

[hollow wadi]

I didn't dismiss any and had to go back and forth between Cordon, Garbage, Meadow, and Darkscape (mostly Darkscape 6 times) for about 1.5 hours

Kinda worth, kinda not

[inner basalt]

should I be giving my tools to traders?

[viscid warren]

you'd be surprised to know that people in general can't read these days despite all the schools we built for them

caps won't help, they won't read it anyway

[hollow wadi]

Half of that time is trying to figure out behind which rock in Darkscape the package is

[inner basalt]

I saw the trader i gave tools to is now selling the repair kits

[astral estuary]

To technicians yes

[hollow wadi]

If you have extras, yes, complete their tools tasks

[rigid stream]

6 package variants.
1x1 small packages always contain meds
the 1x2 and 2x2 metal box contain repair supply (no repair kit)
and the 2x2 bag/wood crate always contain ammo

bonus item is ehhh... yeah sometimes.

[inner basalt]

dont if I dont have extra?

[hollow wadi]

BTW, Advanced tools covers the functionality of Basic tools, and Expert tools covers both, so you can treat the lower tiers as extras

[astral estuary]

First thing you do is give it to them, you can use them at the workshop anyway, you get money and goodwill

[hollow wadi]

Depends where you base

[astral estuary]

You need only one base

[hollow wadi]

I usually stay in Zulu's Tower so it would be a pain

[rigid stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789624196615372815/1095832967764520990/READ.gif

[inner basalt]

so its good as long as i can get to the gunsmith easily?

[astral estuary]

You cant give gunsm and drugmaking kits to technicians

You can only sell them

Which is, not profitable at the slightest

[rigid stream]

*drug kit case only for areas that have medic

[astral estuary]

Technicians

Not doctors

[frigid gyro]

i acutally saw some stalker once request a gunsmithing kit

[astral estuary]

Yes, as a quest, but thats it

[frigid gyro]

just meant to say dont sell them alle maybe keep 1/2 as a spare

[rigid stream]

still giving drug kit to doctors adds the drug kit into technician's workbench

so it still counts.

[astral estuary]

Yes i guess

[rigid stream]

if only the change also applys to gunsmith would have been really good

[frigid gyro]

if giving gunsmithing tools could enable you to buy ... ammo parts that would be nice

[astral estuary]

What change, the tools tasks has been a thing since anomaly

But ye

[rigid stream]

well is not too hard to add those into technician's stock by trader file edit.
e.g giving basic tool start selling ammo parts and advanced give more stock

[astral estuary]

Makes the scavenging part of the modpack kinda pointless

[frigid gyro]

while i understand what you are saying i am unsure if i would add it to this trader ... because their inventory i want not to be limited by ammo parts

[rigid stream]

maybe with tweaked price values ofc.

specially ap ammo heads

[frigid gyro]

it depends ... often times you run into the problem das you run out of one component -> this could help alleviate that problem and its not like you will never buy ammo again

[astral estuary]

And if you increase the prices, that just encourages you to start scavenging instead of buying

Better to not have it at all

[rigid stream]

an extra "if you have spare money to dump"

even though people sometimes do that

with the mass buying other ammo, salvage and craft the ammo you use

[astral estuary]

I do that always

[rigid stream]

always net-loss but again. extra money to dump
for more supply

[astral estuary]

Its enough

[rigid stream]

reminded me of toz-106 run where AP slug are soo hard to come by and buying its ammo isn't much an option either (duty)

25 in-game days wasted

[inner basalt]

the rf missions in the big areas are such a pain

[rigid stream]

best off honestly don't pick them.

[astral estuary]

I think thats enough time wasted

[inland spade]

Damn. Having raptr or one of the better saigas

[inner basalt]

I dont even got close to that much ammo

[inland spade]

Damn

[astral estuary]

Time to start aiming instead of farming for ap slugs, normal ones are just fine

If you can aim well

[inland spade]

Would be a dream

[rigid stream]

and more funny so, i only used half of them throughout the pripyat section of living legend all the way to the end of operation afterglow

[inland spade]

I got raptr once

Thing deleted everything

Because i had so much ammo

For now im pistol man

[rigid stream]

ap slugs just 2 taps nosorogs in the head
4 if its on UNISG

[astral estuary]

Here is a fun challenge, try to do an invictus playthrough below 15 hours

[inland spade]

I have colt saa and shrimp

[rigid stream]

isn't that just invictus speedrunning.

or speedrunning in general.

[astral estuary]

Yes, i guess

Its fun

Before the major gamma updates, that made it harder, i did the game in 11

[rigid stream]

well i could. given that i can go start with a bolty and snowball the way through

[astral estuary]

Good choice

[rigid stream]

or hell, beat the whole thing with said bolty from beginning

[astral estuary]

You def need a shotgun

And you are set

[rigid stream]

mutant-wise yes.

2 guns, one cover the human
other mutants and all good to go

[astral estuary]

Ok, go do it

Have fun

[rigid stream]

the perfered strat of getting ks-23 asap

[rigid stream]

not now atleast.
maybe few days after grandma's funeral is done

[astral estuary]

The funeral takes several days?

My condolences

[inland spade]

Good i disabled eft balistics

[astral estuary]

Time to start the day with 3 lectures for 6 hours and an exercise thats four, i am staying here the hole day

[valid loom]

The humble TOZ-34 Chimera Hunter, accurate and reliable for all your hunting needs.

[inland spade]

I have ithaca for now

[astral estuary]

Best shotgun in the game

[inland spade]

Enough for south

[valid loom]

I do personally think the KS-23 is a lil overrated tho but it does its job ok.

[rigid stream]

while its pretty overkill against small mutants.

it does a damn good job against big ones

#📢development well its justified for it to be nerfed to C tier

[inner basalt]

the mp7 is good right?

[valid loom]

Ive yet to do the experiment using the drag drop caliber conversion mod having the Saiga or RAPTR firing the same shells as the KS-23.

[rigid stream]

well its pretty good as a pdw sidearm slot

[whole venture]

this is funny, I've just realized I probably have 1k+ hours in gamma/anomaly/whatever and never finished the game 😄

I always get distracted, farm stuff, 200h in cordon first, then my stash is so full the game is lagging, then after 500h I take a break and wait for a few patches then probably start over 🤣

[little light]

im about the same

[inland spade]

Damn

Running double pistols is fun

Revolver and shrimp

Anyway

Share your other unorthodox weapon combos

[near estuary]

🦐

[inland spade]

Yup

[near estuary]

damn uhhhh

[inland spade]

Revolver is also quite good sniper on rookie stalkers

[near estuary]

winchester + mosin

[inland spade]

I play with artigrok. fmj 357

Makes for very good anti stalker round

Got mauser

And artigrok does one very nice thing to mauser ammo

Makes it have 100%

Not 80

[clever canyon]

Hey idjot, what did you want ?
Pinged me in newbies and didn’t answer when I asked what you want

[blissful rampart]

hello, does anyone here plays with FWP on fresh gamba?

[hollow wadi]

Does
PlayS
See me after class, F

[blissful rampart]

i was struggling with that one

[carmine basin]

Just popped in to say fuck monokit. Bye

[blissful rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/крутой-cool-men-dontworry-man-gif-24167251

[bold skiff]

How do i tell this guy to FUCK OFF

[topaz charm]

Point your gun at him? Or shoot near him?

[rigid stream]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-family-feud-kill-steve-harvey-kill-family-feud-kill-gif-21764693

[rigid shore]

Should I reinstall gamma

[rigid shore]

PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH IT'S ANOTHER

[topaz charm]

[hollow wadi]

Ah shit it's another skitarii

[topaz charm]

Cmere ill hit you with a circuit board

[rigid shore]

You're getting servitorised

[rigid shore]

And excuse me, im a techpriest. My servo arm is just being constructed currently (too lazy to draw it rn)

[hollow wadi]

I'm tellin' ya Magos you're fucking around with flesh-games

[rigid shore]

I might have to get my emotional sensors recalibrated or completely removed.

I can't stop laughing

[blissful rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/mariolord-mariolord14-mario-lord-mario-lord-gif-12993108603153607612

[analog palm]

Car

Mfw wrong chat

[hollow wadi]

Kill

[raven python]

guys what is repostion mods in gamma? when i go through Yukiz armory it says soem gun may not work with reposition...whats do they mean?

[hollow wadi]

Wouldn't it be better to ask in the thread for that mod?

[near estuary]

Yes

[hollow wadi]

!bc

[dawn marten]

@lofty willow

Use bot commands for yourself only in #🤖bot-commands. Do not clutter main channels.

⠀

[lofty willow]

sorry, didn't know

[ruby fossil]

is the bloodsucker meat effect just phantom star?

[frank oxide]

yep

[ruby fossil]

i guess i gotta get some ieds then

[rigid stream]

thanks to buffed rads make them deadlier in 0.9.4
you better pre-buff anti-rad drug before eating the raw meat

[mild wing]

Wait… “until a hostile action is performed” so it doesn’t have a timer?

[frank oxide]

it lasts for a minute

[mild wing]

Oh right, it says 1 minute just above the effects list

[sacred marlin]

since when you can get artefacts as a quest reward from a random ass npc

i literally just gave 6 merc pathches and received a soul

free money ig

[raven python]

do you guys lag a second everytime you pull out pda?

[sacred marlin]

yeah

[raven python]

it happen when i am in darkscape

too many npcs i guess

[sacred marlin]

nah bro it doesn't matter where

it just lags no matter what

you can't do shi bout it

live with it

btw too many npcs?

in a darkscape?

its literally the most barren location

[raven python]

sorry dark valley

[sacred marlin]

better but still as i said

it just lags no matter what

[unkempt whale]

I hope one day Darkscape will be deleted from GAMMA build

@raven pythonYou may try to fix all scripts in your GAMMA

[raven python]

how to do that?

[unkempt whale]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/alao-anomaly-lua-auto-optimizer-tool

read description VERY carefully

it's not fool proof

don't expect high FPS gain, tho there will be at least 3-5 more fps with green fix

but most importantly it removes the bloat in the code of LUA

which makes game more stable, unstutter it

do not touch yellow or red unless you're willing to risk, tho there'll be backup package with all lua scripts before ALAO

if you do yellow and red, FPS gain can be much higher

tho, I didn't tested it myself, green did it's job

0 absolutely zero stutter in my game whatever I do or use

it's to the point I can't no longer tell when squad spawned out of thin air

because there's no stutter when it happens

got jumped by freshly spawned squads many times because of it.. just so you know

[sacred marlin]

replacing it would actually be nicer

[unkempt whale]

replacing with what exactly?

[sacred marlin]

with a better version of itself

less barren space, smaller size

like yk

[unkempt whale]

oh no, there's no "better version" of Darkscape

[sacred marlin]

if someone decides to make a project there will be

[unkempt whale]

Darkscape was designed for car chase gameplay sequence in early builds of OG SoC

it was never meant to be used for on foot gameplay

that's why it sucks

[sacred marlin]

who cares lmfao, modders can fix anything

as i said make it smaller and less barren

add couple houses here and there

some pois

[unkempt whale]

yeah.. look at them unable to fix Darkscape for last.. 14 years?

[sacred marlin]

well show me any project that aimed at that

i've seen none

so mb if someone wanted

[unkempt whale]

not only they can't fix it, even worse, they keep adding this piece of shit in every mod, GAMMA no exception

[sacred marlin]

the coc base has it so they just don't bother

[unkempt whale]

like seriously, why would GAMMA need this shit

to create a buffer zone between Dark Valley and Kordon?

[sacred marlin]

same i can say about the other small location near cordon(i forgot how its called)

[unkempt whale]

there are better options for such buffer zone

[sacred marlin]

well

yes

[sacred marlin]

meadow. now i remember.

[unkempt whale]

True Stalker mod has demonstrated the best implementation of what could've been between Kordon and Darkvalley locations

but it's huge

[sacred marlin]

not gonna talk about this mod being garbage

but i can somewhat agree on that

[unkempt whale]

I like the single experience of this mod tho

[sacred marlin]

i still think shrinking and remaking darkscape would be better if someone actually cares that much

[unkempt whale]

S2 was inspired in many ways by it, it would seem

[sacred marlin]

wonder what made you think that

[unkempt whale]

a lot of things

[sacred marlin]

example

[unkempt whale]

even the stash box

[sacred marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/akakichi-no-eleven-redraws-akakichi-no-eleven-redraws-insane-asylum-insane-gif-4104415833497517860

[unkempt whale]

they used True Stalker's version where you can get all items from one stash shared across every location

[sacred marlin]

lmfao

so i can tell that this idea was stolen from minecraft

cuz ender chests

like bro its so thin

[unkempt whale]

and it's even evident how that was added on the final stage of development cause with that they created a silly loop where you can store items and then sell it to traders, especially to sell broken guns

[sacred marlin]

if you think its so hard to come up with idea of universal stash that you need to check ru websites with silly mods to come up with that idea

sorry but you look like you got tin foil hat

im not gonna question it further

[unkempt whale]

it won't make darkscape any less shit

[sacred marlin]

well we not gonna know before someone releases his definitive darkscape

or replacement of it

[unkempt whale]

it's been 10 years at least

[sacred marlin]

10 years of what

anomaly was released in 2018

[unkempt whale]

Darkscape in it's current shitty form has been existing since 2012 at least

[halcyon quail]

yeah darkscape existed way longer before anomaly

[sacred marlin]

ik that

i was thinking he was talking about that no one tried to remake darkscape on anomaly engine

[unkempt whale]

that's how shitty it is

[halcyon quail]

i would love if there were more bases in darkscape and buff the cars so they dont fly out of the map when you step on an anomaly

[sacred marlin]

if i had brain power and knowledge in xray

shi i'd at least tried to remake it

[sacred marlin]

probably engine physics issue

[halcyon quail]

yeah fs

[sacred marlin]

i've never seen a mod that didn't have any issues with cars

so my guess its alot deeper

than just fixing 2 lines of code

[halcyon quail]

cant imagine the amount of effort to put into making a vehcile mod actually viable and balanced esp with the engine issues that already exist

[sacred marlin]

pov: dayz and bicycles

[unkempt whale]

good vehicle mods already exist, but it simply not worth GAMMA development time to add and adapt them I imagine

[subtle jewel]

I mean we do have the ability to retouch and modify the map at this point. HailtheMonolith is already working on being able to merge and modify spawns (which was the missing piece)

[unkempt whale]

current course with rebalancing the core is the right one

[halcyon quail]

oooh? that lowkey sounds very promising

[rigid shore]

Hell yeah

[sacred marlin]

df

that's a stash loot btw

[winter vapor]

Oh talking about the toz

Does the game still have a shinny version of toz( the white one)

Compare to this one

Been so long since the last i touched this game so i have no idea

[inland spade]

well it has. and its much more powerful

[hollow flicker]

going from zaton to jupiter and I spawn in with 7 bandits blasting me on sight, is it ok if I reload the save or do I just take the bullshit death with no counterplay

im doing ironman 1 life

I thought there was a mod that disables npcs spawning on transition zones with you

[winter vapor]

Hmm

Normally bandits always have pea shooters so you can outrun it?

[hollow flicker]

yea these were expert level bandits with exos right on top of me

like legit 7 guys

i do no save scum runs but this is just bullshit, 0 mistakes made, 0 counterplay

[limpid island]

I fucked up

we are so back

[mental furnace]

[thick sedge]

"fuck me" @topaz topaz gladly bro

[limpid island]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yx400dIdkwWdsCgWYp

LET ME POST IN https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1333281107151683665

[clever canyon]

Could be that the thread is full

Typical discord being shit

[rigid stream]

is funny that the gunpack threads always full.

[limpid island]

never beating tarkov allegations

so now where do I ask support for Kmack's awesome car-15 mod

[pallid tangle]

How to achieve 'instant harvesting of animals (without animation delay)'? Is it an MCM option or an additional mod?

[subtle jewel]

I think you can toggle it off under FDDA in your MCM

[limpid island]

@vagrant zephyr @little current Sorry for randomly tagging you guys, but I searched the term "get_se_obj_rank_name" to see if anyone else got similar crashes with that word in the crash log. Did you guys manage to fix it?

[pallid tangle]

@subtle jewel thank you! I tested it and it does turn it off ("MCM > FDDA Redone > Mutant Skinning > Enable animation = Off").

[quasi lance]

how do I delete the game cache ?

[limpid island]

you mean shader cache? delete shaders_cache folder in Anomaly folder > appdata

[quasi lance]

no, the game cache

[blissful rampart]

What's that

[mental furnace]

[atomic pebble]

yes

[atomic pebble]

there better versions of Darkscape, Darkscape of Lost World exists, and this being a unfinished version of the map is wayyyy better than any other itteration of Darkscape

[atomic pebble]

The map is great but has some weird ways to make map borders (fences in areas that would be playable without problems)

[pure remnant]

How sketcy is agroprom underground clear mutant task on an ironman run?

[quasi lance]

idk
I'm trying to make western goods's currency work

but i keep being told to delete the game cache

[atomic pebble]

These two are remakes of Darkscape
And Dark Hollow from Dollchan 8 exists but the concept of Darkscape is being a big map, and being a big map not always is the same thingi than a empty map

[atomic pebble]

Definitive Car Addonpack is the only stalkermod with proper physics

[blissful rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/up-cool-beans-shake-hands-gif-14506215

[blissful rampart]

Can you show?

[atomic pebble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_UMXqNRJFI

[quasi lance]

how do I make it work TWT

i have like

a lot of currency that I cant use

[timber flower]

Okay game is being funny, I have found 3 basic tool sets

And over 6 advanced ones

I didn't even clear any of the labs

[inland spade]

Fun

[timber flower]

I do however lack any 5.56 gun

As a merc

[sacred marlin]

that's good thing the better version exists, but there still ppl that will complain about it being bad or even worse than original no matter what

just to hate on thing

just by adding some pois on the original darkscape you can make it at least not miserable

[drifting temple]

Is that an mfing Chrysler ME-412

[atomic pebble]

Darkscape always will suck if u use the OG map as base

[sacred marlin]

that is looking like averange gmod session tbh

[sacred marlin]

i kinda like it in some way cuz it literally screams cut content

im just a sucker for cut stuff being in some form in mods

[atomic pebble]

"but the vibe bro"

[sacred marlin]

literally

[timber flower]

Man the renegade and the bandit patchwork sevas are better than most others

Colour me surprised

Renagede one specifically, way less, keep the decent rupture protection while also 36% burn on top of good radiation

Weigh less and has passive health regen

[sacred marlin]

i've been under the rock for 3 months, how's this mod called?

like that adds this popups

[unkempt whale]

@pure remnantI strongly advice to avoid any "new missions" on Ironman

except may be 3

1 - to destroy helicopter on military base (take it only if you have Mil or Sci uniform in advance)

[mental furnace]

[unkempt whale]

2 - to kill controller with headshot

3 - to kill baba yaga but make sure to have at least 60% psy protection

everything else is cursed

[pure remnant]

Yeah I did it. 2 controllers 1 psy sucker and some rats

[unkempt whale]

was it worth it?

[pure remnant]

The heli thing I never did but the others are cool. Also add hold your ground to it cause those bandits are like fish in a barrel

[pure remnant]

5-6k + a soul so not really but I already have decent gear so

[unkempt whale]

ah, yea this one also but only with decent gear

optics is the most important thing to have

[pure remnant]

tbf 'decent' might be an understatement

[brisk anvil]

Which silencer can be used for ?m4a1 protector, I got silencer aac m4 and nato 5.56 silencer but i found i can’t install them on m4a1 protector

[pure remnant]

right click and details

[brisk anvil]

Ok

[unkempt whale]

any light helmet with armor + any light armor + morphine + weapon with optics and you can do hold your ground if you go with elevation advantage on the third floor of the building

high risk high reward scenario if you do it early

make sure to bring meds

also it is wise to wait before more allies will be available nearby

[scenic trench]

without headshots

[unkempt whale]

and better bring whole squad with you just in case as a meat shield

but this mission may ruin your rep with bandits beyond repair

not optimal when playing ironman

[inner basalt]

do venders sell class d repair kits if I give them expert tools?

[pure remnant]

Playing duty, killing bandits takes up 50% of my tasks early game

[unkempt whale]

it's easy to be in balance by doing duty missions and bandits missions

hold your ground will bring a huge disbalance which is much harder to repair

and after you already got advanced tools, it's not like Hold your ground is even relevant anymore

actually, I just got an idea which I will apply next time if my run will be over

start with Vityaz, Sunrise suit, full pack of meds, 2 acid for additional damage resistance, after generating first 11,000 on the Rostok from arena, just use that to buy all available 9x19 ammo and additional meds

then immediately start hold your ground early game

[inner basalt]

is the as val good?

[unkempt whale]

one of the best weapons in the game

the only downside is that it doesn't have UBGL

[inner basalt]

whats ugbl

[unkempt whale]

except the one AS VAL very late game which is extremely rare to find

[scenic trench]

under barrel grenade launcher

[inner basalt]

ah

[unkempt whale]

yea

[inner basalt]

trying to think what second gun to run with it

[unkempt whale]

one of the most important tools in your arsenal

[inner basalt]

I should run a gun thats good at taking out mutants to go with it right?

im thinking ks23 or saiga

[timber flower]

Saiga and it's equivalents always feel nice

[sacred marlin]

its 9mm gun with max range of 200 meters

how do you think

[timber flower]

AS Val is good if you can aim

[sacred marlin]

ks is a literall artillery, saiga if you have mid aim

[sacred marlin]

any weapon is good if you can aim and use ap honestly

[sick yoke]

max range is a meaningless stat

[timber flower]

AS Val is better than an M4 or any smg in late game

[sick yoke]

as in it has literally no correlation with anything

[timber flower]

So that statement is not true

[unkempt whale]

KS23 is good when you don't have anything effective against Giants

[sick yoke]

it should be removed from the stats honestly

[unkempt whale]

it can also be used as tool to push artefact from the anomaly

[timber flower]

At 200 meters?

Or are you talking about the KS?

[unkempt whale]

it have extremely strong impulse

KS

[sacred marlin]

mp5 is a king smg you won't change my mind

btw why you even gonna use smg in lategame

[unkempt whale]

if you struggling with artefact being stuck in anomaly, just shoot it out with KS

[timber flower]

You said that any weapon is good, I'm showing you how that's not true

[timber flower]

Normal buckshots works too

[unkempt whale]

Hydro SMG are the best mutant killer weapon in game

[timber flower]

Yea

But I'm biased, I love shotguns

[unkempt whale]

highest TTK

[timber flower]

Especially if I play with mags

And have a 15-20 round mag for a saiga

[sacred marlin]

im not saying its gonna be bad, im saying why would you use smg

outside goofing

[timber flower]

SMGs with hydroshock are very good against mutants

[inner basalt]

rip i cant put my very expensive scope on the asval

[timber flower]

I'm just showing you how what you said isn't true

[sacred marlin]

just use a shotgun

[timber flower]

You can use a shotgun

I'm not saying you can't

[sick yoke]

vector 9x19 is still a very strong option in endgame against stalkers (and mutants)

[timber flower]

Eh

[unkempt whale]

@timber flowerBuckshots works a bit, but not even close to the extent that KS23 shows

[timber flower]

9x19 is a great calibre, I love it but it sucks against unisg

[unkempt whale]

KS23 impulse is absurdly strong

[timber flower]

I usually run 9x19 as long as I can

Glock Hornet is fun

[sick yoke]

of course .45 vector is better against mutants but like, no ap for stalkers with that

[timber flower]

40 rounds full auto

[inner basalt]

now time to find a asval scope i like

[unkempt whale]

it can push artefact far away from anomaly if you shoot it

[sacred marlin]

if were talking about literall human tank that is an isg master than probably im on the wrong here

[timber flower]

I tend to have a main rifle with AP, dedicated mutant shotgun and a handgun with variety

[unkempt whale]

9x19 is a good all around

[timber flower]

9x19 can carry you through radar and the likes but just falls off in the actual north

It's a great calibre

[sick yoke]

anyway not every gun is good at endgame but the majority of them can still be usable

[unkempt whale]

9x19 AP is potent at every game stage, 9x19 HP is decent against mutants, and early game you can spam cheap 9x19 fmj

what's there not to like

[timber flower]

9x19 AP struggles at higher tier armors

Even at Radar you find enemies you can't pierce with it

[unkempt whale]

well yes, but actually no

[timber flower]

So you have to break their armor with a lot of shots

[sick yoke]

the main "bad guns" being stuff that people usually don't even consider when they say "all guns" anyway like the fucking makarovs and toz106s lol

[unkempt whale]

at higher tier armors the mechanic of armor destruction is at play when it comes to 9x19 AP

you simply spray till the armor gets broken

[timber flower]

Which is considerably worse when it comes to killing an armored target in comparison to a 5.56AP or higher calibre

Like I know what you say

[unkempt whale]

and it's gets broken really fast with all ROF upgrades you do

[timber flower]

I understand the mechanic but it is still worse

ROF doesn't hold up so well at range

I don't want to hit the sniper's head 5 times at the Radar towers with 9x19AP before they take actual damage

[unkempt whale]

yeah, obviously 9x19 AP sucks at range on late game armors, without a doubt

[timber flower]

Radar is the furthest I go with AP 9x19 as my main calibre

[unkempt elbow]

1 juicy nade

[timber flower]

Most I had was 5 kills with a nade

[unkempt elbow]

holy find

[sacred marlin]

i sat there and looted a body, when i heard lr300 shots. i pressed esc to exit the inventory and im staring at main menu

[unkempt elbow]

im taking those parts

[sacred marlin]

was it just a fewer dream?

[timber flower]

You got domed

[sacred marlin]

purgatory experience

[unkempt whale]

@sacred marlinaren't you on ironman as well?

[sacred marlin]

why would you think that

im not enjoying ultra hardcore with risk to lose my saves

[unkempt elbow]

[unkempt whale]

oh my bad, it was the other guy

ironman is not exactly ultra hardcore nor is it hardcore at all

it's just better balanced

[sacred marlin]

whatever dude

[timber flower]

It's not recommended for a first playthrough

[sacred marlin]

i don't enjoy my week progress being wiped just cuz some guy named senka borzoy came from the back with toz sawed off

[unkempt whale]

you learn game better, you remember mistakes to never do them again

[sacred marlin]

i've been playing gamma since 2023

[sick yoke]

it's hardcore in that you lose your save if you run out of lives

[unkempt whale]

and it's kinda less boring I guess, when you are not allowed to make mistake

[sacred marlin]

it still doesn't justify total save wipe for me

as i said i like to enjoy things

[spring remnant]

btw does anyone know if the tutorials are getting touched on any time soon? them popping up mid game flow is probably pretty disrupting to new players. would be much better to have them in a tutorial menu or the pda

[sick yoke]

that's basically the definition of hardcore for games anyway

[timber flower]

Disable them

[sacred marlin]

you just pointed a laser at youself

now wait for "uuum actually"

[spring remnant]

i dont care about them. its about new players

[sacred marlin]

they're already in pda btw

its just nobody, even the newest player gonna bother to check them

[sick yoke]

hilariously the only reason the tutorials are a popup are because new players DIDN'T check the tutorials in pda

like, ever

[spring remnant]

probably cuz they didnt know they're there. i literally just learned they are lmao

[timber flower]

Gamba players can't read

[sick yoke]

and would constantly be asking questions that were answered by pda tutorials

[timber flower]

The tutorial is saving helpers a lot of time

[sacred marlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1284613868387172415/1312695305732493359/attachment.gif

[spring remnant]

1 popup to explain that the tutorials are in the pda would be much better than 10 different popups (most of which pop up at completely unrelated times)

[sacred marlin]

nobody gonna read that too

[timber flower]

They pop up when said condition happens

[near estuary]

[timber flower]

Like being shot, irradiated

So I don't know what you are about

But they are accurate in what they describe and when they pop up

[spring remnant]

they really arent

[unkempt whale]

It's good to have them, regardless

[near estuary]

they are

[timber flower]

I disagree with you on that matter

[spring remnant]

loot one hunter, get 3 popups for repair and one for medicine

its frankly not

[timber flower]

So you are looting parts?

And get a pop up about repairs

WOW

[near estuary]

OH I WONDER WHAT THE PARTS ARE FOR

you can't make this up man

[spring remnant]

maybe we should give REPAIR popups when people are repairing

not looting

[sacred marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/akakichi-no-eleven-redraws-akakichi-no-eleven-redraws-insane-asylum-insane-gif-4104415833497517860

[timber flower]

YOU NEED TO LOOT TO REPAIR

THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS

[spring remnant]

[sacred marlin]

exactly

[near estuary]

imma be real, i think we got masterbaited

[sacred marlin]

he just ragebaiting atp

[timber flower]

Unlike 90% of other stalker mods you can't repair the weapons at a mechanic

[spring remnant]

yeah i cant wait for the popup that came in the first 5 minutes of gameplay to help me 3 hours later when i find repair tools

oh wait it doesnt

[timber flower]

Maybe you should have read it then

[near estuary]

[sacred marlin]

turn them off x2

new player won't complain about popups

[blissful ivy]

this game barely even needs popups, its not even that complex

and its even more simple than like, 2 versions ago

[spring remnant]

thats literally my point, the popups are unnecessary

[blissful ivy]

so at this point you have to be super dense (also cant you get the popups at any time in MCM or smth)

[blissful ivy]

THEN DISABLE THEM?

[near estuary]

#╓☢stalker-chat message

[blissful ivy]

dent head

[spring remnant]

LITERALLY READ MY MESSAGES???