"I don't want people redistributing my shit"
nukes the only legitimate source
#╓☢stalker-chat
near estuary
lethal steeple
yeah that's why i said "somewhat valid"
gaunt agate
and did they not collectively think "well wouldnt this be setting a bad precedent for future mod creators if this is what we resort to?"
I guess not
pallid mountain
streisand effected themself bad
lethal steeple
i'm willing to put real money on claiming that none of the "rotten life in bio" "people" would react the same if gamma was a zip modpack with mcm included and ravenascendant caught wind of it
lethal steeple
and did they not collectively think "well wouldnt this be setting a bad preceden...
bad precedent was set when grok reacted like the gamma community did when a mod author didn't want his mod in gamma a couple of years back
if the head honcho does it then it's only fair the rest of the community can
and should
because it has already been done
pallid mountain
unfortunately 😔
near estuary
i'm willing to put real money on claiming that none of the "rotten life in bio" ...
imma be real
99% of people here have no idea who ravenascendant is or that he made arguably the most important addon in Anomaly's history
gaunt agate
I certainly dont, but it's still fucked that his shit is getting stolen, regardless of how he chose to handle it
near estuary
I think it's more "acceptable" in this case
not a good solution but he didn't exactly make the right call either
opaque moss
imagine if dudes just followed the instructions the modmaker provided
lethal steeple
cue the obligatory sticker
gaunt agate
lethal steeple
thank you
near estuary
imagine if dudes just followed the instructions the modmaker provided
what instructions? I thought he just deleted everything and left
(I never used the mod)
analog palm
I looked at its screenshots and said nope 
pine venture
Охуеть
lethal steeple
yes i agree
near estuary
lethal steeple
oñ
near estuary
yes i agree
wait so what instructions are you talking about
lethal steeple
wait so what instructions are you talking about
i was responding to the russian message
because idk what the fuck bro said
near estuary
so what's this about
pallid mountain
something along the lines of i have 20 fps, then wrong chat
trim wolf
Man i'd wish i could change my name in game
opaque moss
so what's this about
the "i don't want people to reupload my stuff" thing
trim wolf
I think you can
oh? do you know how? I haven't been able to find it
opaque moss
what instructions
you know the sort of thing a lot of addons have
lethal steeple
oh cool, some text, too fucking bad you posted "your" stuff on the internet tho
near estuary
you know the sort of thing a lot of addons have
yeah, I'm not saying people were right to use his shit without permission/credits
I'm saying that he shot himself in the foot by nuking the only legitimate source of the mod
gaunt agate
he problably wasnt thinking straight when he did that
sick yoke
Abiotic factor mention in gamma discord wtf
gaunt agate
I wanna get some friends into it
pallid mountain
yeah a better radiation screen effect would be nice
instead of greying out cause you stood up too fast
analog palm
What gamma actually needs is smaller changes and additions with more character
hidden urchin
Guys is it better to make ur own repair kits or just buy them?
hidden urchin
well where do i find cleaning kits for repair kits? I haven't found a single one and the tech guy sells 1 for like 5k and i need 4 😭
gaunt agate
if you have the money and you're lazy just buy them
lethal steeple
What gamma actually needs is smaller changes and additions with more character
too bad you're now getting a mod that replaces more gun models adding like 30gbs to the size of the game
analog palm
Ya know the joke about putting l85a1 in A tier and having it be an absolute shitbucket that jams 5 times a mag and randomly has catastrophic failure?
I legit think that'd be good for the game
lethal steeple
hell yeah that's the character we like to see
hidden urchin
if you have the money and you're lazy just buy them
I never have money 😭
analog palm
Gamma is too... Utilitarian?
lethal steeple
automatic assault rifle chambered in 5.56 that cycles at 800rpm #340
gaunt agate
Ya know the joke about putting l85a1 in A tier and having it be an absolute shit...
just like irl 
lethal steeple
let's fucking go it's YET another .45 semi automatic uncapped fire rate pistol (this one has a cosmetic flashlight)
this is what we like to see
opaque moss
ok but what if it has a laser
gaunt agate
I never have money 😭
alright well problably better to just get better tools first and then decide if you want to give them to techs or not
analog palm
Lasers would actually be useful if crosshair was disabled and 3d ballistics were enabled by default
lethal steeple
ok but what if it has a laser
now this is actual content right here
hidden urchin
alright well problably better to just get better tools first and then decide if ...
oki
lethal steeple
Lasers would actually be useful if crosshair was disabled and 3d ballistics were...
you forgetting that the laser is part of the gun's model
3d ballistics will make the bullets fly from the barrel and respect the barrel's orientation
not the position of the laser
inb4 that's how it works irl
analog palm
...that's the point
lethal steeple
is "a rough idea" completely off course so that the laser is where the center of the screen is while maintaining a good looking viewmodel
because that's how it works
dusk vessel
Lasers maks guns ugly
lethal steeple
and then you microadjust the viewmodel or change the intended hud fov and the laser is even more offset
dusk vessel
I hate them
analog palm
??? The point is that with 3d balls the center of screen IS NOT where the bullet will go when hip firing, laser tells you more or less where it's pointing
opaque moss
analog palm
Making them somewhat useful to have
opaque moss
he doesn't know
lethal steeple
he really doesn't
analog palm
Then educate
lethal steeple
name a game with 3d ballistics that doesn't point to the center of the screen
dusk vessel
Ready or not?
lethal steeple
it still points towards the center of the screen
dusk vessel
Its generally in the centre but its got sway on hipfire
dusk vessel
it still points towards the center of the screen
Somewhat yeah
lethal steeple
bullet respects the barrel's orientation
dusk vessel
It does
lethal steeple
barrel still points to the center of the screen
because that's basic ass game design
opaque moss
Then educate
lethal steeple
yes and it does because it makes them point towards the center of the screen
crazy shit i know
dusk vessel
Kind of how a sight is also off from where the barrel is
Since the laser is next to the barrel not in it
Zeroing exists
lethal steeple
speak of the devil even tarkov points to the center of the screen
projectiles do respect the barrel's position and orientation
dusk vessel
Best case for a laser is to be parralel to the barrel
lethal steeple
the gun still points towards the dead center of the screen
all 4 laser positions also point towards the dead center of the screen
which is, again, basic ass game design
lethal steeple
doesn't matter to the convo
dusk vessel
I know
lethal steeple
it's another episode of "i don't understand nor do i want to understand a smidge of game design but i want realism and i know that a laser isn't a crosshair"
opaque moss
yes and it does because it makes them point towards the center of the screen
wow man you can have good looking viewmodels while maintaining the laser around the center of the screen!!🗣️
and ron has some really accentuated idle animations
lethal steeple
that's crazy did void interactive solve gaming?
opaque moss
idk man i thought that shoving the gun down to the bottom right corner and angling it 45º was the only way
junior delta
where is this stash??? when i try to search the cross, theres nothing in it
lethal steeple
oh and we're forgetting that anomaly can't handle viewmodels changing depending on map geometry
inb4 then what about cover weapon tilt
green gyro
where is this stash??? when i try to search the cross, theres nothing in it
!ms hud waypoint time
dawn martenBOT
@green gyro
An ongoing bug causes some stashes to spawn on random objects, anomalies or NPC's, resulting in the loss of any items they might've held.
To identify if the stash is indeed bugged you can do this:
- Disable
Areasabove the PDA Map to remove white circles around locations Right Clickthe stash marker on your PDA Map- Select
Set Waypoint Right Clickthe waypoint you just added- Select
Waypoint Settings - Enable
Show waypoints marker on HUD - Press
OK - The on-screen waypoint will point towards the stash
lethal steeple
the laser dot will always be the same size and at the same spot and at the same distance
even if you're aiming at a wall right next to you
opaque moss
but where's the realism in that
junior delta
!ms hud waypoint time
ok thx it was in a CAR
lethal steeple
i want my money back i was told this game doesn't fake survival nor realism
analog palm
Like no shit it points at the centre most of the time, that's basic design to make the game simple and intuitive to play (unless you're hunt showdown)
laser would just be nice to have for when the gun is not pointing at the centre, which is only really when you're moving or under recoil.
Which is at least a bit better than being completely useless
gaunt agate
the profound amount of unfettered retardation that drewski has released in this community is just indescribeable
lethal steeple
in hunt bullets come from the crosshair xddddddddddd
lethal steeple
it's still just the crosshair
analog palm
I think rising storm does that too
hidden urchin
Yo is it possible for a stash to be frozen in a barrel or something? Because I am standing right on top of where the map says stash and i see nothing only thing i see is a box inside a frozen barrel and I think theirs a gas cylinder right next to it am i supposed to shoot to the cylinder or something to blow it up ?
analog palm
Either way you went and overblew my statement just to go on a rant.
A mostly useless laser is still better than a completely useless one, realism has little to do with it.
3d ballistics causes problems with interaction when a gun is out anyway
hidden urchin
Is this the stash??? how am i supposed to get to it?
lethal steeple
Yo is it possible for a stash to be frozen in a barrel or something? Because I a...
place a waypoint on the stash and it'll appear on your view
hidden urchin
place a waypoint on the stash and it'll appear on your view
oh ok thx
lethal steeple
Either way you went and overblew my statement just to go on a rant.
A mostly us...
3db really doesn't solve the laser issue because it needs the same amount of effort if not more than just adapting hipfire spreads to match laser movement
but people really don't want to learn what the ltx parameters do
hidden urchin
place a waypoint on the stash and it'll appear on your view
Um i placed the waypoint and it says waypoint reached what do i do? I think the stash is inside the barrel look at the screenshot i sent what do i do?
lethal steeple
to this day i genuinely believe i'm one of like 4 people in the entire western scene that know what the PDM_ values do
analog palm
Fire bloom is another thing that I could really do without
lethal steeple
there's no firing bloom xddddddddddddddddd
lethal steeple
it doesn't change from firing
only from movement velocity and stance and only when hipfiring
when aiming down sights it's completely static but not 0° (unless fire_dispersion_base is 0 in the ltx)
although adding proper firing bloom should be easy but what would even be the purpose
it'd feel like shit because it'd just be punishing full auto for no reason
and nobody hipfires
opaque moss
to this day i genuinely believe i'm one of like 4 people in the entire western s...
are the other 3 people still alive
alpine fulcrum
Um i placed the waypoint and it says waypoint reached what do i do? I think the ...
Search? Its a stash obviously it is hidden. Otherwise it would defeat its purpose.
hidden urchin
Search? Its a stash obviously it is hidden. Otherwise it would defeat its purpos...
why didn't i think of that man
ur so smart man
tame trellis
was the blue tint always there or is that new MT-exes bug? I swear i don't remember the tint being there.
tame trellis
using those options doesn't remove the tint
maybe it's the new vityaz cause the icon for the weapon changed and i think the model is different too
trim wolf
Anyone has any clue of what this is?
frank oxide
Anyone has any clue of what this is?
!pdaerror
dawn martenBOT
@trim wolf
Just ignore it.
Critical Error on top of certain tasks was done on purpose to prevent autofailing once accepted through the PDA Taskboard.
It can also appear on tasks that require you to go into maps you can't access yet.
HEX code is just an easter egg, something similar to the "Kill Strelok" PDA.
analog palm
it doesn't change from firing
Whichever of nigh-interchangeable terms you wanna use, random bullet spread is easily one of most disliked mechanics for me, especially if it's over exaggerated
lethal steeple
i mean it's not nigh interchangeable really
not at all
bloom from firing is its own mechanic separate from hipfire spread
or movement bloom
related, yes, but not interchangeable
no, not semantics either
analog palm
You really are a programmer huh
analog palm
this whole thing felt like arguing with sab
what the fuck is this shit bruh
sss looks like ass
no sss looks like ass
runs better at least
frank oxide
what the fuck is this shit bruh
i hate this issue
dunno what is responsible either
well i can guess that it's flora sub scattering or some other fancy word shit
analog palm
do you know what causes very bright sky when sss is removed
disabling atmospherics, sss and ES,
lethal steeple
well i can guess that it's flora sub scattering or some other fancy word shit
check flora specular intensity in mcm - sss
frank oxide
yea but if you don't use SSS then you're fucked
lethal steeple
remove enhanced shaders
and then reinstall beefs because it's installed with the ES patch
lethal steeple
do you know what causes very bright sky when sss is removed
some skyboxes are just extremely bright in anomaly that's just how it is
get a weather mod
only atmos sort of relies on ES and SSS
frank oxide
do you know what causes very bright sky when sss is removed
uhhh no idea, i do know that beefs nvg has an old sky2.ps file that makes skyboxes look like shit
in case you want to replace it:
(for those using message history - if you use SSS or Atmospherics, this is already corrected there. If you don't however you get the shit skybox)
left is default gamma, right is the fixed one
as a comparison 
i do run custom mods and beefs/es so maybe that's why i don't notice stuff
lethal steeple
melancholy has always beaten the shit out of atmos
but it won't ever be default because pipnik stigma and the you tried star
lethal steeple
imho atmos has never looked good
it started to kinda click lately but that's 90% sss carrying it
frank oxide
yea the SSS reliance is true
frank oxide
yea the SSS reliance is true
especially when one is required to run the other 
lethal steeple
i've always instantly swapped atmos for even michiko's
which is older than most people in this server
but still holds up
basic but pretty
or the rays of anomalous worlds or whatever it was called
that one also looked pretty
had stylized exaggerated weathers
frank oxide
i was looking at the older weather mods and yea some are still decent to this day
lethal steeple
the cgim port is also great but it doesn't have that cool ass foreboding fog build up before an emission starts
maybe now that sss can be configured ingame one could emulate that fog thing question mark
big maybe i don't have a clue
but it being in mcm gives a 
ray of hope
frank oxide
ray of 
mental furnace
lethal steeple
this weather pack talk makes me want to actually do the san andreas weather joke mod
but i don't want to download anomaly
frank oxide
post emission screenshot 
mental furnace
post emission screenshot <:hellonewstalker3:1116528678122291311>
!0days
mental furnace
mental furnace
analog palm
i probably should just start a new run
this one's too stupid
got an ace suit too lol
mental furnace
got an ace suit too lol
eat them 
mental furnace
analog palm
this is peak starting loadout and nobody can tell me otherwise
mental furnace
this is peak starting loadout and nobody can tell me otherwise
analog palm
even heavy armor falls quickly if you hose it down with 9mm
muted spruce
this is peak starting loadout and nobody can tell me otherwise
Imagine starting the game with good gear tho
muted spruce
Jus repair it
olive ingot
Does anyone have an issue with their mouse freezing? I only get it in Gamma, my mouse and driver are perfectly functional
It freezes for a few seconds with an interval of 10 seconds, its literally unplayable
frank oxide
Does anyone have an issue with their mouse freezing? I only get it in Gamma, my ...
too high mouse polling rate can cause stutters when moving the camera
shit engine can't handle muh 8000hz
olive ingot
too high mouse polling rate can cause stutters when moving the camera
How high is too high?
frank oxide
i'd say beyond 2000
frank oxide
or set it to 1000 just to be safe
valid crater
even heavy armor falls quickly if you hose it down with 9mm
Anything falls to 9x19 and 9x18mm, especially AP, you just need enough shots. The main issue later is the high damage output of your enemies, so, if being shot at and hit it may be better to drop someone more effective to reduce that risk. Once you got hit by Lapua rounds you value effective ammunition. 💩
thick sedge
is the as val with fmj 9x39mm strong enough for monolithians?
analog palm
read above
thick sedge
and I'm talking brain scorcher tight spaces
atomic pebble
The Seed still wasn't uploaded again
scenic trench
is the as val with fmj 9x39mm strong enough for monolithians?
totally
analog palm
a question that pesters me anytime people ask questions like that
do they play on ironman?
because, if not, just go and try?
you've nothing to lose (maybe except time) and everything to gain
idle spade
Ironman ruined my life
gloomy stirrup
does anyone know if there's a mod for jerking off?
frank oxide
pliant kestrel
does anyone know if there's a mod for jerking off?
timber bramble
Groza Storm or RD-74N for a 545 assault riffle?
subtle jewel
Groza Storm or RD-74N for a 545 assault riffle?
Shoot a mag of each one at a flesh and see which one feels best 
gloomy stirrup
Groza Storm or RD-74N for a 545 assault riffle?
all 545 guns - shit
blissful ivy
Groza Storm or RD-74N for a 545 assault riffle?
just pick the one you like
timber bramble
all 545 guns - shit
what do you recommend then?
blissful ivy
what do you recommend then?
dont listen to him hes a clown
based on his earlier question about a mod to jerk off in stalker
5.45 is fine
its actually good at any point in the game
subtle jewel
5.45 fucking tears a hole through anything
blissful ivy
i mean, 9x19 tears a hole in anything
just use AP
seriously, any gun works besides .338 federal on stalkers
you can almost use anything
some things are abyssmal, 20g is
but for the better part of guns, anything works
subtle jewel
The usefulness of 5.45 also is in part that the HP variant of the bullet is decent enough to make it a mutant killer too. So you can use your secondary for whatever else you might want
blissful ivy
also applies to 5.56
the HP for it is better than i thought
used it on the G36K, it works just fine for most things, 5.45 HP is a little better though
subtle jewel
5.56 HP isn't nearly as good. That's the big thing about both calibers, 5.56 has better AP, 5.45 has better HP.
That's the big difference, mostly
timber bramble
I found the Vector so it works as a mutant killing gun 😄
subtle jewel
There's an argument about optics and attachment availability too
timber bramble
I play with MAS
blissful ivy
the nato optics are just flat out better besides the okp
oh and the specter is ugly as hell
for nato
but we dont talk about that
blissful ivy
hes kinda right, the vector doesnt feel right for me
analog palm
This message was approved by shotgun supremacy group
subtle jewel
Once you have a taste of .45 SMG, it's hard to go back to a shotgun with the increased range and killing power tbh
analog palm
Lol
blissful ivy
i mean its semi-realistic
subtle jewel
More than 5 meters 
analog palm
Shotguns can cover entire maps
blissful ivy
you can do some great damage with buckshot at even 100m on stalkers (granted they cant wear any armor)
because its buckshot not slugs
but still
did hold the ground in garbage with a damn double barrel, 1 shotted a bandit from the spawn near the greek fire anomaly
measured it, its like 130 meters iirc
analog palm
If I can do pre-nerf scorcher with double barrels, you can do some dogs with a semi auto
subtle jewel
I mean, shotguns will be even more interesting once scripts like MAS or the attachment script with 1.6 drop for doing shotgun chokes and reworking the ugprades trees to lower spread
blissful ivy
I mean, shotguns will be even more interesting once scripts like MAS or the atta...
chokes?
sign me up
this is good
wait
you know what would be interesting?
subtle jewel
It's a possibility, tho not even remotetly implemented
blissful ivy
if chokes made it so slugs couldnt be used 
unless its certain chokes
like half or full chokes just dont let you use slugs
i cant remember which ones allow slugs, its been ages since i took my shotgun out and messed with my chokes irl
and i dont care to go google it
subtle jewel
Well with chokes comes the whole pandora box of muzzle breaks too
blissful ivy
Rifling extension that makes slugs more accurate
thats it
its not exactly encouraged to use buck with rifling
subtle jewel
its not exactly encouraged to use buck with rifling
Unless you want to explode your gun
blissful ivy
because it makes the spread terrible
blissful ivy
Unless you want to explode your gun
no its fine
its just that there will be a gaping hole in the center of your spread
meaning you will literally cut an outline
of the target
unless its one BIG target
subtle jewel
It really gunks up your barrel tho, you really lead it up bad when firing buck through rifling
But I guess that can be just added as a condition modifier
But yeah, once the proper 1.6 system drops, I'd expect things like chokes, extensions, compensators, foregrip, etc to become a thing
blissful ivy
It really gunks up your barrel tho, you really lead it up bad when firing buck t...
well yeah theres many reasons why its braindead to use it
in threaded barrels
anyways the big plus of chokes if they were added
is that they wouldnt have to change the model of the gun either
unless it were to be added as a muzzle attachment like suppressors
chokes arent easy to see unless youre looking at the barrel from the front, or side, but from behind the gun, theyre not particularly obvious, so its not like in mags where you can slap a 71 round drum on your gun and it just looks like a 30 rounder
near estuary
It really gunks up your barrel tho, you really lead it up bad when firing buck t...
isn't the shot held in the wad before it leaves the barrel?
therefore no real contact of any sort between the lead itself and the rifling
near estuary
Unless you want to explode your gun
unreal tree
Hey everyone! I'm interested in your opinion: is a 9060 XT 16GB ok for Gamma? (I'm currently running a RX 6600 and 50-60 fps.)
subtle jewel
isn't the shot held in the wad before it leaves the barrel?
therefore no real co...
There's no wad between your pellets, it's only against the charge to push it all out. So your pellets are rubbing all around your rifling and really gunking it up.
blissful ivy
which makes gun go boom
because like burn said
no wad
so nothing is there to "carry" the lead out
or at least wick some away
so buckshot and rifling is a no no
thats why many shotguns are smoothbore and you just use a rifled choke
for slugs
or rifled slugs
lotta reasons why rifling and buck dont mix
(not to mention the ABYSSMAL spread)
subtle jewel
Sure lead is less solid than the steel of your barrel so you're not chipping or breaking anything in there. But the lead is still gunking all your grooves
blissful ivy
Sure lead is less solid than the steel of your barrel so you're not chipping or ...
this is also the reason brass is used for ramrods on muzzleloaders
the more you know :)
because brass (while hard) isnt as hard as the steel
so its a great material for sturdy and reliable ramrods, while not damaging the barrels rifling
this is first hand knowledge from my muzzleloader
my muzzle loader is in the bottom of this image
that rifle there
and yes thats my shotgun
subtle jewel
I think my rod for my muzzle loader is just plain carbon
blissful ivy
I think my rod for my muzzle loader is just plain carbon
i just have an older rifle
so its brass
yeah i dont have any images of my muzzleloader in focus
but thats it in the bottom
im supposed to have a trigger lock on it, but i doubt a single motherfucker knows how to load it
so im not worried
subtle jewel
As long as you keep your powders in a separate place, whatever
blissful ivy
its in a different room
not locked up, but like i said, no one can load it
(also the actual balls for it arent in the open)
theyre in the ammo locker thats locked
with the rest of the ammunition
subtle jewel
That's good enough for the law I reckon
blissful ivy
nah they dont actually check lmao
so its no big deal, besides if i wasnt trying to convert it to .45 colt it wouldnt be out
subtle jewel
Tbh my 50 cal buckstalker is just ontop of a shelf
blissful ivy
im adapting it to cartridges
but not fully
so the goal here
is to have a little doohickey that holds the .45
then you slot it in
so it can do both
but its not done
im still making the parts for that conversion
(luv me gunsmithing)
anyways, back to darktide
timber bramble
As a anti-stalker weapons, better is 556 or 545?
lethal steeple
556 has like 1 ap more but 545 is like 1 gram lighter and more common
they're the same item
just use whatever is the most accessible
near estuary
There's no wad between your pellets, it's only against the charge to push it all...
most shells I've seen had wads that looked like this so not much direct contact between the pellets and rifling
if the wad doesn't have these "walls" then yeah, I guess it would leave residue over time
trim wolf
I assume the random messages in PDA's containing rf reciever frequencies still just does nothing?
blissful ivy
most shells I've seen had wads that looked like this so not much direct contact ...
i like how this argument is just saying you can use buckshot in rifled barrels
even though A. You normally wouldnt because thats retarded and counter intuitive, and B. residue is still left behind since the pellets often go ahead of the wad
near estuary
we talking about the uhhh
residue and shit
blissful ivy
it still leaves lead behind, the pellets still have impacted spread, because they still travel down the rifling
near estuary
i guess
near estuary
obviously
near estuary
kinda indifferent to it
compact wind
ive dealt with it because i failed to remove it entirely
but abiotic effect would be so cool
certainly better than shitass tv static
timber bramble
556 has like 1 ap more but 545 is like 1 gram lighter and more common
I'm using the RD-74N and just found the F2000 Competitor. I wonder about changing to it because it can install the Thermal scope and UGL and suppressor and has separate side sight for UGL (Groza storm annoys me with this)
I'm already in the North and have quite a lot of rubles so accessibility isn't really an issue. As you said they're almost the same then I'll probably switch (need to check recoil)
light ruin
Stranger in a strange land
solar chasm
As a anti-stalker weapons, better is 556 or 545?
5.56 has better ballistics (keeps pen at range better) and generally has guns that can perform an all-range anti-personel role better.
5.45 has better HP damage and generally has guns that can perform a close-mid anti-anything role better
something like the sig sg 550, nimble g36k or f2000 competitor are great primary weapons when paired with a dedicated anti-mutant weapon like a .45 smg or semi/full auto shotty
while something like the groza storm, duty ak5 kit, AKs74u tactic or ak12 monolith are great secondaries when paired with a sniper and an anti-mutant pistol
round onyx
wishing there were artifacts that buffed gun stuff like lowering recoil or increasing flatness ngl
solar chasm
that would be pretty neat tho idk how much work that would take
dusk vessel
while something like the groza storm, duty ak5 kit, AKs74u tactic or ak12 monoli...
to me the 5.45 is the anti mutant gun
solar chasm
probably a looooot
solar chasm
to me the 5.45 is the anti mutant gun
yes
dusk vessel
it doesent take much range for hp 5.45 to out damage 45 acp hydras
solar chasm
that's the point of that loadout
dusk vessel
since 45 has strong falloff
but yeah
i tend to use 5.45 with fmj/hp with a dmr/sniper
and then a korth or usp
solar chasm
the anti-mutant pistol is for plinking off dogs and shiz
solar chasm
while your 5.45hp is for the big stuff
solar chasm
does a good chunk less damage tho
dusk vessel
so might take a few more bullets to kill a giant for example
mabye 3 or 5
5.45 were known as the poison rounds because of the way they fragment and expanded
it makes sense
5.56 is faster
so more pen
solar chasm
5.45hp has a 1.75 K_hit while 5.56hp has a 1.57
dusk vessel
oh damn
solar chasm
that is not 3-5 more to kill a giant
dusk vessel
5.45hp got buffed then
solar chasm
considering how many 5.45hps it takes to kill a giant
dusk vessel
i dont remember it being 1.75
45 acp has 1.64 only
but also 57/58 base damage
while 5.45 hover around 50
and its much easier to get your hands on a automatic 5.45 than it is a automatic 45
while being more accurate with easier to hit shots on moving targets
solar chasm
yeah but much more expensive to sustain
dusk vessel
mabye yeah
solar chasm
not that that's that much of a burden
dusk vessel
but if you play correctly you swim in money anyway
solar chasm
but yeah
dusk vessel
like taking 7 quests to kill the military in dark vallexy
minimal risk and you get like 50k for it
mabye more mabye less
solar chasm
and its much easier to get your hands on a automatic 5.45 than it is a automatic...
hey man the thompson is ez as
dusk vessel
ah yeah
forgot about it its a starting gun
i was thinking more ump or fraiser ngl
thompson is valid though
celest sparrow
hey man the thompson is ez as
UMP / MP5 Frasier still being available within the same Tier as 5.45 Rifles
solar chasm
yeah i know
celest sparrow
.45 HS will always be better
dusk vessel
.45 HS will always be better
as it stands
celest sparrow
But 5.45 HP does have the benefit of less Damage Falloff I guess
but it lacks a Multiplier against Giants so .45 HS will do better in that aspect
dusk vessel
hp 5.45 with the multi does 87 damage and 45 hs does 93
but over a slight distance 5.45 wins through damage dropoff
but yeah close range 45 wins
dusk vessel
But 5.45 HP does have the benefit of less Damage Falloff I guess
but it lacks a ...
even regardless of giants multi 45hs does more dmg per bullet
solar chasm
now a small amount of prep before i go do BS
dusk vessel
its like 11.4x23mm or something its a pretty thick bullet
celest sparrow
even regardless of giants multi 45hs does more dmg per bullet
Wdll yeah due to the base Damage of weapons being significantly higher
dusk vessel
7-8 on avarage
yeah
advantige of the 5.45 is that it doubles as a stalker killer
.45 fmj is practically useless
if you have a dedicated 45 you can combine it with a dedicated sniper
and then a sr2m or 5,7 offhand
thats a solid loadout
dusk vessel
something that can do close range stalker killing
solar chasm
tho
dusk vessel
mutants are almost always close range
which is why ,338 federal is just gimmick really
unless you spot a giant in the distance but at that point you already got the upper hand and can kill it easily
its when you get suprised by a mutant that you need a solid mutant killer
blissful ivy
UMP / MP5 Frasier still being available within the same Tier as 5.45 Rifles
the ump is the best .45 smg in the game
fight me
dusk vessel
wasnt it made to be cheap....
blissful ivy
it feels better than any of the others
solar chasm
^ those two hurt it mainly against bloodsuckers and giants
blissful ivy
celest sparrow
Personally, never liked .45 ACP smgs
dusk vessel
giants especially
celest sparrow
12g / 23g Shotguns are always my go to
blissful ivy
23g
dusk vessel
ubgl solves all your problems anyway
blissful ivy
dusk vessel
just dont blow yourself up
solar chasm
i honestly tend to go for 9x19 stuff lol
celest sparrow
i honestly tend to go for 9x19 stuff lol
I do so during the early game
blissful ivy
the awnser to the shortcommings of the ump is to switch to another weapon
yup
works with all the other guns
celest sparrow
Shotgun + SMG before I switch to Rifle + Shotgun
blissful ivy
also vector faces same issue, just without the fire rate
so idk man
doesnt add up
dusk vessel
i guess so
solar chasm
we've even got a new best 9x19 smg coming now
dusk vessel
ik
celest sparrow
we've even got a new best 9x19 smg coming now
Is the MP5SD6 getting its model updated soon
blissful ivy
shotguns are still more fun
blissful ivy
i prefer pumping shit full of 12g from the benelli
dusk vessel
fmjs too
dusk vessel
is the usp back in the loot pool?
massacered every nato base on a new playthrough like 3 times and didnt find a single one ever
neither did i in the isg run i finished where i killed 1500
very sad
found basically every gun but a damn usp
dusk vessel
yeah
blissful ivy
i have the black one
dusk vessel
lucky
dusk vessel
or my game is fucked idk man
dusk vessel
besides style
dusk vessel
usp has coolness factor that fnx can never hope to achieve
blissful ivy
what?
solar chasm
er
dusk vessel
not much more to it
solar chasm
wrong vid
solar chasm
BEHOLD THE NEW BEST 9x19 SMG
blissful ivy
it will be here eventually
dusk vessel
i love the usp45 over the fnx the same reason you prefer the ump
blissful ivy
but the usp is just eh once you have the fnx
dusk vessel
could say the same about ump once u have fraiser
blissful ivy
BEHOLD THE NEW BEST 9x19 SMG
such a fucky thing
blissful ivy
could say the same about ump once u have fraiser
not really
fraiser is basically the same thing
solar chasm
50 round mag 9x19 converted kiparis with a laser :L
blissful ivy
50 round mag 9x19 converted kiparis with a laser :L
dont care, still gonna use the pp
pp is my beloved
and no not the pp-19 get that ugly piece of trash out of here
pp2k
dusk vessel
roller delayed > blowback
dusk vessel
blissful ivy
roller delayed > blowback
also, roller delayed is still blowback
dusk vessel
ik
solar chasm
i've adjusted the pp2k to have a 20 round mag and fit in the pistol slot
blissful ivy
dusk vessel
it literally says blowback at the end of the name xd
im aware dw
its still superior firing system to the ump
the reason the ump isnt using it is to reduce cost
blissful ivy
its still superior firing system to the ump
ok and? the m-4 is still in service over the hk416, because even though the gas system on the hk is better, it costs more
and theyre still reliable
UMP is reliable
dusk vessel
thats why special forces use the hk416
blissful ivy
doesnt matter
dusk vessel
and regular troops m4
blissful ivy
i know this
dusk vessel
UMP is reliable
it is no doubt
its a very good gun
i find this video so funny
its peak old german internet
full frost
Grok finally decided to remove the 5 chimera stacks
A+D+23x75mmR
sick yoke
Yeah I know hur dur just strafe bro
dry oriole
wanted to know the opinion of a few of you on a thought I had
sick yoke
It’s still a case of just really shitty enemy spam finally being replaced with something better
dry oriole
what you guys think about a mode in gamma, less grindy, faster, less tankier enemies and shorter ballistic cap. but you have only one life, everything is boosted, weapon condition, spawn rates, not by too much
just to make the avarage playthrought take about 20 hours
or less
dry oriole
sounds like an antithesis to what Gamma tries to be for the most part
sort of lol
I don't like too much grind etc, would def boost the realism and make it more awesome to play fast
errant dragon
you could probably make it yourself if you tweak settings enough tho
dry oriole
you could probably make it yourself if you tweak settings enough tho
oh, I'd love to, have any clues how?
not sure if there are configs for drop conditions
(as you may guess, I don't really like the extreme grind)
dry oriole
ohhh alright!
I will see what I can do to make this happen
the game would be thousand times better for me to play
(since I like to play it inbetween work hours)
errant dragon
there's a drop condition setting in MCM
if you want to mess with that
is very specific
dry oriole
I wont have to mess with npc health I think
just drop condition
to reduce the grind
and probably stuff related to how money works
maybe quests pay more
and maaaybe less tankier high tier stalkers but no clue
lethal steeple
I don't like too much grind etc, would def boost the realism and make it more aw...
i mean just play fast then
people speedran the game
back when it was fun
dry oriole
not my thing :)
lethal steeple
and didn't weigh as much as your mom
then why suggest playing fast
if you don't like it
bruh
blissful ivy
lethal steeple
nah i don't really
lethal steeple
bro wants fast aggressive play
blissful ivy
He clearly wants to play fast, not play fast
lethal steeple
but doesn't want fast aggressive play
dry oriole
hm... never said that
dry oriole
He clearly wants to play fast, not *play fast*
EXACTLY LOL
dry oriole
it's more about having more time getting into the game's content and less doing quests here, searching guns, searching toolkits
lethal steeple
then increase zcp squad size
dry oriole
probably
I will test it out
:)
also increase drop rates
and a couple more tweaks
my plan is to get the game fast enough so you can finish it in about a day
lethal steeple
Xd
blissful ivy
Buddy, you can beat the game as is in less than a day
Actually, some have it done in less than 8 hours
Some did it faster
I mean some runs are only 12 hours
golden barn
There's fast and then there's speedruns lol
celest sparrow
it's more about having more time getting into the game's content and less doing ...
So not GAMMA
the average Stalker experience is what you want
atomic pebble
it's more about having more time getting into the game's content and less doing ...
play other mods if u want a "other game's content" apart of the typical freeplay stuff
celest sparrow
Yeah
dry oriole
it's funny to me how difficult seems to associate that I like gamma's gameplay, resource management etc, just not that much of the grind due my routine
so better would be a 1 life mode with a faster pace to get to the late game
I could indeed finish the game in 8 hours, but I won't have the experience of getting better gear and progress my way :)
celest sparrow
It's a meh suggestion
dry oriole
not a suggestion actually
dry oriole
I asked briefly what you guys think of the idea
dry oriole
I will do it lol
celest sparrow
Do it then
atomic pebble
it's funny to me how difficult seems to associate that I like gamma's gameplay, ...
play other mods, u will get more than gamba likes and dislikes
frank oxide
3D Ballistics are fucking with my cover abuse muscle memory 
dry oriole
play other mods, u will get more than gamba likes and dislikes
I already did if that bother you, but I like the way the game flows on gamma
celest sparrow
3D Ballistics are fucking with my cover abuse muscle memory <:kekcry:91997392904...
ivory cipher
what key is it by default to inspect guns?
celest sparrow
I already did if that bother you, but I like the way the game flows on gamma
Oh but you don't like the grind 
sick yoke
I just don’t think it’s particularly feasible on gamma
frank oxide
3D Ballistics are fucking with my cover abuse muscle memory <:kekcry:91997392904...
I keep hitting the fucking wood/metal whenever i aim at stuff
sick yoke
Gamma is inherently designed around grinding for shit
atomic pebble
I already did if that bother you, but I like the way the game flows on gamma
Idk if don't have much grind will destroy gamba gameplay
celest sparrow
I just don’t think it’s particularly feasible on gamma
You can reduce the amount of tasks required for yellow stash spawns and I guess increase the probability of certain toolkits
sick yoke
Like even just for toolkits you’re required to do at least 21 tasks to unlock expert
celest sparrow
The issue is people spending a lot of time trying to farm for exactly what they want lol
sick yoke
And sure you could reduce that amount down by editing files but like, you still wouldn’t have the stuff to actually repair or make the stuff you want
celest sparrow
Also "you die fast lol" doesn't really make gameplay fast
atomic pebble
and if someone stole the good gamba mechanics to base anomaly and then everyone vill be happy?
sick yoke
Dying fast is already part of the game anyway
celest sparrow
Yeah lol
ivory cipher
what key is it by default to inspect guns?
is it possible to even inspect guns? like that time when you first pick them up?
golden barn
Yeah, less grind is one thing but dying faster is unnecessary
celest sparrow
Making it faster is just stupid and boring
sick yoke
You explode in 2-3 bullets if you’re wearing a medium suit without Artis
celest sparrow
With 1 life as well?
drifting temple
Make gamma into an arena shooter
celest sparrow
Make gamma into an arena shooter
golden barn
You could just increase rewards and rep gain and it'd go a lot faster I guess
drifting temple
I wanna rocket jump and style on monolit
golden barn
But then you don't get the experience of hunting mutants with a knife because ammo is expensive
celest sparrow
"I like how GAMMA flows, but I don't want to put the time into it "
atomic pebble
"I like how GAMMA flows, but I don't want to put the time into it <:cluelo:14060...
I mean
drifting temple
Forget dracula flow, gamma flow is the real shit
celest sparrow
Bro wants Advanced tools in 2 - 3 hours (which you can accomplish btw) to finish the dogshit story is 7 hours
golden barn
If you like the game then playing the game more seems like an obvious win, I don't even remember the last time I did the story
celest sparrow
He doesn't want to engage with the freeplay content
which is the aspect most people like due to how mediocre the story is 
drifting temple
I only do the story to see how well ive progressed my character
atomic pebble
He doesn't want to engage with the freeplay content
and if gamba implement good freeplay content
drifting temple
Otherwise once you open up the north you can just chill forever getting loot and grinding tasks
celest sparrow
and if gamba implement good freeplay content
It's okay at best, most people complain of the lack of content in the North
I heavily enjoy running Tasks around the South
celest sparrow
It's okay at best, most people complain of the lack of content in the North
I he...
Well the lack of content in the North is pretty much true for everything Anomaly related
atomic pebble
Well the lack of content in the North is pretty much true for everything Anomaly...
Zaton and Jupiter will be deleted and und be happy
celest sparrow
Zaton and Jupiter will be deleted and und be happy
SoC and CS only maps 
drifting temple
I hope the increased spawns for the north will make it more lively
atomic pebble
SoC and CS only maps <:prayge:1051578354073096222>
Ya know?, fuck generators and darkscape too
drifting temple
Cause I notice you don't have as many random squads roaming from place to place like you do in the south
celest sparrow
I hope the increased spawns for the north will make it more lively
I'll see how it plays later
I'm looking forward to it
atomic pebble
SoC and CS only maps <:prayge:1051578354073096222>
SMASH or PASS
celest sparrow
Smash
dry oriole
just for context, I don't really feel the game has enough content for a 40 hours playthrought, it is very repetitive and grindy, and what keep ME playing isn't the gamble between good parts, toolkits, it's the thriving dead or live scenarios where you actually your save file is in the table
not saying there is something wrong
but for me
thats what works the best
celest sparrow
what do you expect
when it's all built around a sandbox experience
"There's not enough content!" Yeah no shit
atomic pebble
when it's all built around a sandbox experience
Average stalkermod freeplay🙏
dry oriole
I mean, the game is a modded game, people should realize you can really play the way it suits you better
celest sparrow
We know, and people play however they like
dry oriole
I don't see why the big talk when someone like me says something like, dude I'd like to play this way
celest sparrow
but saying there's not enough content to go around is simply due to the fact of how freeplay works
you want content? go play another experience
dry oriole
but saying there's not enough content to go around is simply due to the fact of ...
yes indeed, no one to blame, but if it its boring to me, well, I will pass on it
lol
atomic pebble
go play other stalker mods
According to him, he already did that
celest sparrow
you are saying you will pass on it
celest sparrow
According to him, he already did that
play them again 
dry oriole
I think there might be some lack of understanding
when I say pass on it, I mean the boring part
since gamma is just a bunch of packed mods, I can get the juicy and meaty part and leave the dry and repetitive stuff out
lol
atomic pebble
since gamma is just a bunch of packed mods, I can get the juicy and meaty part a...
repetitive stuff out
Not much in this case
dry oriole
I can even increase AI difficulty to thousands to make the experience even better for me
celest sparrow
the dry and repetitive stuff being the freeplay experience
atomic pebble
the dry and repetitive stuff being the freeplay experience
average freeplay experience
dry oriole
I think you don't really understand that I don't hate it, just it is way too long for a game with essencially 5 repeatable quests lol
doing the same quests hundreds of times
don't know how that offends you
but man
celest sparrow
yeah, and there's not much you can do to change that other than to take away from it by acquiring gear faster
dry oriole
you might have some spare time
atomic pebble
I think you don't really understand that I don't hate it, just it is way too lon...
That's a problem, tho, with a port of Call of The Zone that will be fixed a bit
dry oriole
yeah, and there's not much you can do to change that other than to take away fro...
if that's works for you, dude, it's awesome, glad the experience is fine to your taste
just don't get why people make such a big talk
celest sparrow
because you do you
dry oriole
when I say, eh, not much into it lol
dry oriole
because you do you
really? I, I just said, well what you guys think, been thinking about playing this way
celest sparrow
I like people changing shit to their liking, not trying to justify it
atomic pebble
just don't get why people make such a big talk
i understand u, u already played a story mod or not, or aren't of ur taste?
alpine elm
Yoo is that magazine mod still around?
celest sparrow
if you want to play that way then just do it
make it a mod even if you think others will like it
dry oriole
i understand u, u already played a story mod or not, or aren't of ur taste?
I did quite cool tbh but I like a ton the combat of gamma
celest sparrow
Yoo is that magazine mod still around?
!mags
dawn martenBOT
@alpine elm
How to enable magazines in GAMMA: #╭📖faq message
Do NOT use 207- Mags Redux or Mags Buyable at Traders!
dry oriole
and I like more the late game
since opens more options to guns
armors
etc
so cut a bit of that and start the midgame faster so I can enjoy quest mods, faster gameplay
atomic pebble
I did quite cool tbh but I like a ton the combat of gamma
U like "hardcore combat experiences"?
dry oriole
U like "hardcore combat experiences"?
yeah, that's the whole point
more than just the grind, got it?
alpine elm
which one?
celest sparrow
Brother
alpine elm
They are both mad redux
celest sparrow
Anomaly Magazines Redux (need to disable GAMMA unjam reload same key)
ATHI's Mags Redux Mod Madness
atomic pebble
yeah, that's the whole point
Play this, maybe u will like it
https://www.moddb.com/mods/prosectors-project-english-translation/downloads/prosectors-project-fix-6-repack
celest sparrow
It says so in the FAQ
dry oriole
Play this, maybe u will like it
https://www.moddb.com/mods/prosectors-project-en...
thanks for the recommendation, I will check that out anytime soon
alpine elm
Do these magazine mods work together or do i need to decide between the two?
dry oriole
well, I won't say I don't like gamma balancement etc, just will test a bit to check what suits my taste better
celest sparrow
Do these magazine mods work together or do i need to decide between the two?
You need both
alpine elm
kk ty
dawn martenBOT
@celest sparrow How to reload your gun:
If you are playing vanilla GAMMA: your unjam key = your reload key.
If you are playing with MAGAZINE MODS:
- Make sure you disabled the "GAMMA Unjam reload on the same key" mod
- Make sure you separately rebind the Reload command ("Reload Weapon & Put PDA Away") and the Unjam command ("Reload weapon/Unjam Weapon/PDA away")
- Make sure you added magazines to your loadout (alt-click or right click -> "add to loadout")
- Make sure your outfit actually has a slot that fits the mag (hint: PPSh drum mag is Large, the starting Sunrise suit has no Large mag slots)
celest sparrow
ping disabled 
dry oriole
https://www.moddb.com/mods/area
I know that one, really nice
celest sparrow
<@389511509732229130> How to reload your gun:
**If you are playing vanilla GAMMA...
@alpine elm Yeah
celest sparrow
Not that I've heard
drifting temple
I totally forgot about area
dry oriole
keep in mind, that even so I like those mods, gamma is in fact much more advanced, be graphically, mechanically etc, so yeah
they have a place
drifting temple
That was like the big CBT mod before gamma
atomic pebble
That was like the big CBT mod before gamma
IS the big CBT
drifting temple
Excluding misery
golden barn
I hope there are no bugs, i remember this mod used to be buggy
IIRC the mod was rewritten at some point, so if it's been awhile then presumably it'll be better now
ivory cipher
Why am I losing reputation when killing monolith? I am freedom atm
alpine elm
IIRC the mod was rewritten at some point, so if it's been awhile then presumably...
True
drifting temple
Are you disguised as monolith?
atomic pebble
keep in mind, that even so I like those mods, gamma is in fact much more advance...
NLC 7 also is a option
ivory cipher
i mean i am wearing their clothes but not the patch... let me check if i have the patch on :X
celest sparrow
you can't disguise as Monolith
I guess it's just something that happens, not like Reputation means much
drifting temple
Oh that's right
atomic pebble
This one also is a hardcore mod
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dsh-mod-english-translation/downloads/dsh-repack-includes-translation-and-addons
celest sparrow
the mod that doesn't fake realism
ivory cipher
I guess it's just something that happens, not like Reputation means much
im not wearing a patch
reputation doest matter?
golden barn
It matters at the extremes, small amounts of reputation rarely matter
ivory cipher
IM A GOOD BOI THO 😄
atomic pebble
<a:duckass:1315011337319092295> the mod that doesn't fake realism
Mods that doens't fake realism:
Lost World
Pripyat Living Zone
AREA
drifting temple
Realism is having your run end after a few days from the accumulated cancer smoking cigarettes and hanging around irradiated metal
celest sparrow
Mod where you have to complete the game in a time limit before you die from cancer
ivory cipher
took 3 magazines of AP ammo of headshots to kill a monolith because he had this artifact , but it doesnt seem to improve health or bullet resistance, how come he took so much ammo to die?
celest sparrow
took 3 magazines of AP ammo of headshots to kill a monolith because he had this ...
he has a lot of Armor
the Artifact is just a plot device
novel junco
Plot armor
drifting temple
New theory: BS and mm timers aren't from the noosphere tearing your mind apart it's just monoliths new 5G tower
So they can play Minecraft on their PDA with their friends
celest sparrow
Minecraft Pocket Edition 
atomic pebble
but I'm too busy being a gamma tester chud
thick sedge
volat deez nuts
do you guys sell unused artifacts to ecologist traders
or body parts, sure
livid cypress
Attacking the Merc Checkpoint in Army Warehouses as Duty for like 3 tasks
sharp schooner
IM A GOOD BOI THO 😄
thats a neat looking PDA UI
give the mod here
im mugging you for oyur mod
ivory cipher
thats a neat looking PDA UI
1 sec
- reworked devices https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/pda-replacer-bttr
altho i just realised it looks nothin like those from the mod =))
so i have no idea what pda i have
thick sedge
bro that's base gamma
sharp schooner
good man
marsh bridge
https://www.moddb.com/mods/area
oh yea a.r.e.a love that shit
not a big fan of mutants being completely silent but eh
muted spruce
do you guys sell unused artifacts to ecologist traders
Never need to
I also hoard everything so inevitable I have everything I need for the later tier artis
thick sedge
some of the meat/parts/artis don't seem to contribute to tier 3s+ according to the recipes though
not seem, literally
I tried selling perkifacts and they net me well over 180k
atomic pebble
oh yea a.r.e.a love that shit
it needs competition, it needs Dead Air 1.0
thick sedge
Wonder what Lara's up to tonight
nocturne lotus
if there's a big patch and i install it (like the big armor rework patch) does my data and savefiles get erased? (if they do, how do i back them up)
thick sedge
what armor rework
oh I get it now I'm pretty sure Grok provides save-safe ticks like .9.3 to .9.4
he's also gonna add character save transfer mod, all your items and stats kept except quests and companions
sick yoke
The people who hate anime must be really confused on whether they hate it because anime or happy because it depicts an anime girl getting bashed with mallets
timber valve
do you guys upgrade artys before sacrificing to lucifer?
muted spruce
The people who hate anime must be really confused on whether they hate it becaus...
It's more like
Why
sick yoke
Idk
muted spruce
Same
dusk vessel
The people who hate anime must be really confused on whether they hate it becaus...
the only anime ive ever watched is initial d and i liked it
but i wouldnt say i hate it
i dont watch series in general, or cartoons of any kind
unkempt glen
god I love getting outright shitfaced and playing gamma
makes it hard to tell if I missed because of me being mediocre at the game or the alcohol
wild hatch
what's this effect?
celest sparrow
what's this effect?
Artifact nearby
thick sedge
not bitches unfortunately
blissful ivy
But you see goth girls are an artifact