╓☢stalker-chat

[rigid stream]

sid is unkillable
|| untill the very end of genocide run ||

[sick yoke]

oh ok so literally just start fucking murdering anyone you'd normally get a quest from

except sid until the end lol

[rigid stream]

also kill the rostok checkpoint guy.

some people often miss them and void the whole thing

[sick yoke]

i mean i assume the quest thing will tell me that?

or does the quest thing also miss him LOL

[rigid stream]

it doesn't give hints.
nor the task telling you.

plays out like undertale genocide run

[sick yoke]

🤔 i'll just kill everyone anyway

[rigid stream]

you only get genocide instruction by subtle dialog changes during workshop section

untill later when the task directly says you to kill people after simp core

[sick yoke]

wait does this mean i get to skip darkscape

[rigid stream]

no sadly.
you still have to run through them

[sick yoke]

😔

alright what about the random black market trader in dark valley lol

[rigid stream]

hes included to be killed btw.

[sick yoke]

darn, not my goat penguin

what about the witch

she's sidequest only

[rigid stream]

well the witch doesn't spawn if you didn't pick the sidequest.

[sick yoke]

oh lol

[rigid stream]

which by that point you already killed emmy

[sick yoke]

i guess i'll do that for my next run then

should also get me uh

great depression achievement too

[rigid stream]

now i only need the 2 story-based achievement

which the people at ZI told me to just do it with netrual ending
and finding the secret server at the end and bringing correct materials.

[sick yoke]

uh

neutral is the nah unless

[rigid stream]

yes

[sick yoke]

secret server? 🤨

neutral's actually pretty easy to get surprisingly

[rigid stream]

its in monolith warlab where you meet kitty.
just explore a bit you will find it

[sick yoke]

at least if you do it on a ng+ run

yeah expected it to be there but what materials do i need

[rigid stream]

often most of my run fail this as i mostly ended up either being slightly evil or good.

but atleast the dark cookie and holy water came into play

[sick yoke]

oh i just used the m200 and that one arti that gives hp and negative karma on kill

[rigid stream]

ah the "lisence to kill" and "demon tail"

forgot about those 2 artefact

[sick yoke]

ran through the entire cnpp/sarco bits with just that and managed to get paladin, neutral, and lawless endings lol

[rigid stream]

right also Laura's wraith and the Eve's M200

[sick yoke]

genocide end won't count as antichrist end will it

it'd be nice if i could double up on those but i doubt it'll work

[rigid stream]

heres a thing though.

full genocide ending doesn't give you achievement

the "Its never too late to stop" is granted on you once you started activating them (aka killing every important npc in cordon, garbage and agroprom)

[sick yoke]

oh

so i don't even need to complete genocide to get the achievement? lol

[rigid stream]

im done the genocide run fully because its interesting
but also at the time im doing it without using trade menu for achievement but it doesn't count lol
since interacting server at the end outright crashes and wipe the saves rather than give usual ending credits

quite funny really.

exactly how undertale genocide plays out..

[near estuary]

cock crusher

[pallid mountain]

👌

[near estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/magnifying-glass-gem-gem-alert-spying-gif-8152235274896165137

[celest sparrow]

#📢development message The amount of ammo being sold just got doubled for most calibers

[frank oxide]

Mm mm 360 FMJ rounds of 5.56

5.56x45 ss190

[celest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-too-fire-fire-writing-writing-fire-friendcord-gif-7801118907023267493

[frank oxide]

Wait no?

The non-edited config also has the ss190

Wtf (inb4 that’s just what AP is called and i’m retarded)

[celest sparrow]

ss190 is HP

[frank oxide]

whatever…

300 rounds per restock of stuff that has 15 bullets per box

CoP values

I mean its good tbh

[celest sparrow]

Less South travel to restock

I like that

[frank oxide]

225 7.62x39 FMJ and AP at Owl

1050 PKM bullets (iirc its 30 per box?)

270 5.45

Not bad

[frank oxide]

This one i’m happy for

7.62x39 is cancer to resupply

[celest sparrow]

It's going to be easier to upkeep LMGs

[frank oxide]

9x39 is 192 FMJ, 180AP

[analog palm]

south probably should get increase too

maybe

[celest sparrow]

Nah

As a matter of fact, remove all ammo

[analog palm]

errmmmm

remove all guns

[celest sparrow]

[thick sedge]

should I just go with a BRN-180? does it 1~2 tap stalkers in the head with FMJ? I'm having trouble hoarding LARGE rifle casings for my SA-58

7.62x51 ball fucking slaps yes, but I'm seeking long term

[near estuary]

if you don't have good access to NATO ammo, sure

[grave solar]

when a monolith absorbs a magdump of sp6 and then kills you, its time to stop for the morning

[thick sedge]

no, I do, dushman trader level 5

[near estuary]

then there's no point in downgrading

[alpine fulcrum]

Well the Legend returns.

Time to question Grok again if he made Crafting to easy.

Had to destroy 88 Field Cooking sets for plastic films to get to these medkits.

At this point declare me a Drug dealer.

[timber valve]

is ibuprofen+vicna better than yadulin

are you not fighting any stalkers lol

[alpine fulcrum]

No i just used Vinca for making red medkits, yadulin or rebirth because vinca doesnt heal head injuries

[thick sedge]

222 .357 ammo

[timber valve]

bro i hoard money too much id rather be injured and run to the medic than use an ibuprofen

[unborn tendon]

i forget is the ak-74 syndicate any good. found it in a stash

(i typically avoid ak's as a whole but got nothing better for now. so)

[alpine fulcrum]

I play hard+ survivalist ... i make them surrender and shank them afterwards. But even then only monolith and mercs are accurate enough to hit me for some reason even if i am peaking.

[timber valve]

if you've got nothing better there's not much to be done

[timber valve]

bro i've never had anyone surrender to me

[thick sedge]

that's LASS intimidation I think

[unborn tendon]

-_-. i have the mp5a3 frasier but i asked if the ak is any good. regardless

[thick sedge]

is it a 5.56 barrel? otherwise it's bootycheeks

any gun is good but AKs with 5.56 barrels are

[unborn tendon]

5.45 variant

[thick sedge]

oh yeah oops it's 5.45 my bad

[dusk vessel]

Whats with the ak hate

Theyre solid guns, could finish the whole game with one

[unborn tendon]

i am slavic and i tend to dislike the ak platform as a whole.

[timber valve]

i've never used a 545 gun lol 556 for life

[dusk vessel]

Just a basic ak74 can solo the whole story

[dusk vessel]

Because of its history i guess? Up to you

[unborn tendon]

i avoid most warsaw pact guns as a whole

[dusk vessel]

Im german and dont care about using the 98k

[unborn tendon]

nice assumption. but no. i just tend to dislike their looks unless they are modern in visual asthetic. and also because i just don't like most of their sights

[thick sedge]

you should put an OKP-7 sight onto that AK

then ditch it if you want

I'm hating the 5.45 AKs

[unborn tendon]

i tried numerous ak guns and i still tend to gravitate more towards nato guns

idk. i just like them more in gameplay

and visuals and pretty much all of it

[alpine fulcrum]

Warsaw slaps biggest bullets until you reach 7.62x51 guns

Except if you really want to build 7.62x39

[dusk vessel]

I like to use mp5/g3/k98

But ill use an ak if i have one

[thick sedge]

yea use it for awhile if you have no NATO to use

[unborn tendon]

snipers though. the merc variant of one specifc sniper rifle is a warsaw pact gun that i adore

i forget its name tho

[dusk vessel]

Svds retribution?

[alpine fulcrum]

You can suffer or atleast have bigger gun.

[unborn tendon]

svd PMC i think

[thick sedge]

getting large rifle casing is a pain yet it's possible

[unborn tendon]

i absolute adore that sniper rifle. if i can get my hands on a svd pmc in a run i am using it till kingdom come

[thick sedge]

and traders refresh x120 of em NATO ball ammo

[dusk vessel]

Never seen a pmc

[alpine fulcrum]

I am only crafting the ammo i ditch buying tbh

[dusk vessel]

I know of a ak74 pmc

But not svd

[alpine fulcrum]

i burn so much money on repair material and medical supplies that crafting ammo is much cheaper

[thick sedge]

same

[unborn tendon]

svd pmc is arguably one of the best guns you can get your grubby hands on imo

well but "one of the best" is a broad category

[dusk vessel]

Im p sure youre talking about the retribution

[unborn tendon]

there are a lot of good guns in gamma

[dusk vessel]

Unless its called different in ua version

[unborn tendon]

no retribution and pmc are two different guns

[dusk vessel]

I dont play as merc ever so i dont know if its a story gun

Never seen it

[unborn tendon]

move your mouse here. and type there svd pmc

its literally widely known but okay

[alpine fulcrum]

Ehh ... idk chief considering that the ammo for the alternativ you can craft in the same category ... the SVD is not worth the effort if you didn't get it early or nothing better

[unborn tendon]

again. depends. because gamma has a lot of great guns. and its also the question of what YOU prefer

like a gun i absolute love. the howa type 20. i would scrap every ak in existence if i can guarantee getting it

and a lot of people hate its scope

i call it amazing

one of the best

so again opinions different

actually wait no. i lied about hating all the aks. i forgot about the ak-74 monolith

i actually like that one with its upgrade package

once applied

[alpine fulcrum]

Well everything that doesnt get me killed if i use it. SVD if not armor piercing take 2 headshot for monoliths and sin, ISG idk anymore but i almost met nosorog ISG so i avoid them ..

[unborn tendon]

i think the svd has a really good round for specific armorued enemies like nosorogs. unless im mistaken

i could be wrong. haven't played properly in ages

[alpine fulcrum]

Nato at most takes 2 headhots with AP

If i am lucky

[unborn tendon]

eh i mean. i am a merc main

most of the guns i use are nato but i can appreciate rarely a good warsaw pact gun

[thick sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274965772055609344/1406082152545783818/crazy-cat.gif

[alpine fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-early-gif-18074307

There is only true way, that is being Murder hobo. Merc get nice hit list as they drop good early gear.

[unborn tendon]

mercs are the best faction in the game. anything else is anti merc bias

mercs are so good that its even worth killing them when you play FOR them

they contain multitudes

[alpine fulcrum]

If i can i almost make instantly straight line to WT killing mercs

[unborn tendon]

who said mercs don't kill mercs

i literally am the definition of "you better watch your back or i will knife you while nobody is watching"

[thick sedge]

I thought bandits only stab each others backs

[unborn tendon]

how do you think mercs get ace suits in their runs

[alpine fulcrum]

Then you are a Bandit with extra steps not a merc

[unborn tendon]

No?.......

[thick sedge]

also they don't get angry at me now at maximal rep + experienced rank

when I shoot their head

still alive though

oops sorry gave you a headache

[unborn tendon]

being a merc is about optimizing profit. the sneed greed chart argues. if the loot is not bolted down. it doesn't belong to them. it just is temporary in their transfer capacity. so i liberate said loot.

[thick sedge]

that is what I call desperate

[alpine fulcrum]

So everything what a bandit does

[rigid stream]

oh there we go, merc glazer goes again

[unborn tendon]

do you think lore wise mercs are buddy buddy "yeah pal i got your back we are dashing into doom together"

[unborn tendon]

merc glazer?

[celest sparrow]

yeah im a merc glazer

m3rkmusic glazer

[unborn tendon]

i mean. if you gona troll me at least find a better insult. merc glazer is so over used its dull at this point

[topaz ocean]

is there any tacticool ak101 in gamma or any other mod

[alpine fulcrum]

If you wanna go gamma id doesnt matter it is not canon.

If you wanna go canon your argument is still not worth because we know jack shit about mercs everything is just theories

[unborn tendon]

that kinda goes both ways though. so you can't just argue my habits are "only" bandit habits since again. we don't know if mercs don't just off each other if presented with opportunity

[rigid stream]

this basically apply to any faction, literally.

[alpine fulcrum]

Why should it matter at all in the fandom chart it says, merc players wanna be bandits just not gopnik style

[rigid stream]

atleast its not the retarded debate about "merc being western"

[thick sedge]

then aslan shouldn't be selling vodkas tbh fr fr

[unborn tendon]

originally i was a very big loner player. if mercs get deleted tomorrow. i will still not play bandits.

i would probably play loners again. or clear sky

[thick sedge]

"ARE MERCS FRENCH OR ARE THEY GLOBAL" 🗣️

[alpine fulcrum]

MERCS are from the land called supreme douchbag

[thick sedge]

if hog died back in the older games we wouldn't be having supreme douchebags

[rigid stream]

felt funny when someone calling us merc denier as "anti-merc bias"

[alpine fulcrum]

i go back and change the timeline, nobody stoping me to put a bullet into him

[thick sedge]

it'd be cool if he has his exo armor on the wall or something

his past or whatever

[alpine fulcrum]

Just bolt it on the wall with his corpse

[thick sedge]

damn... don't do him hard like that he's a retired technician now...

[alpine fulcrum]

If they wanted to be cooler bandits they have to deal with it that they die like cooler bandits i mean i get reputation boost for offing these guys and mugging their belongings why should i care everybody else is happy about their death

except Clear sky but they are next.

[thick sedge]

killing mercs have extra rank boost?

[alpine fulcrum]

Everybody else called me stupid for saying they are sus.

Oh look there in Stalker 2 i was right all along, now they can wait for my bullet

[alpine fulcrum]

Well usually i never encountered merc rookies so the higher rank the more exp you get, ofc they are harder to kill, doesnt matter if you have a deagle early game

"mimimi FN Five seven and deagle are not efficent and expensive"

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-hiturshotskid-fortnite-hit-your-gif-10025627030688841513

[thick sedge]

five seven 🔥

the red box ammo very easy to procure

[alpine fulcrum]

i have more ammo material then i waste with every bullet with the pistols

so i dont understand why not to use any pistol stronger then 45

[thick sedge]

40 damage at BR5

[thick sedge]

idek how can I bring my deagle outside of tapping mutants

I can understand it doesn't have great stalker killing potential from the description

[scenic trench]

sin
tend to not have heavy armor

[alpine fulcrum]

Headshots, it staggers any monolith so hard that the second one just outright kills them or in down state

Even Exo mono just stagger any other headshot just adds up

i mean the bullets makes holes size of a golf ball , to the head its just TBI you giving them

[dusk badge]

last dawn, save squad doesn't trigger?

[thick sedge]

oka, I need to keep practising hitting heads with irons

deagle with sights look weird and misplaced

[alpine fulcrum]

Tbh iron around just around nose area and you will always hit dead center

ofc more dinstance it makes harder but i already take scummy cover that they have to push to actually shot me

Best is always if they walk in a line straight towards you

[thick sedge]

this is just like the duty outpost chokepoints

fun times

[analog palm]

slugs work too

(sab try not mention slugs at every opportunity challenge (impossible))

i just love slugs too much

[thick sedge]

this gives me an idea to load barrikada slugs on my KSG23

[alpine fulcrum]

Yeah but i want to use a shotguns with buck so pain is everywhere. besides fuck AP slugs for being so rare as a material

[analog palm]

fuck is an ap slug

some kinda modded ammo?

[thick sedge]

they exist apparently

[analog palm]

yea i know

i just dont bother with em

[thick sedge]

which is pointless

TRUE

[analog palm]

i use em if i find them, but i dont think i've ever crafted them

not even on shotgun only run

[alpine fulcrum]

You cant when do they drop?

Never

I had only 6 corpses with AP slug tips

[analog palm]

my gamma is super ultra custom so they do drop sometimes

but still rare

[alpine fulcrum]

I am vanilla und everything hard, and it is a Bitch

[rigid stream]

man i cannot express how much of a pain in the ass to get 12g AP slugs
during my toz-106 run

[alpine fulcrum]

In that time i have enough bullets for my deagle for every head in the zone

[analog palm]

actually, i dont really craft shotgun ammo in general

[rigid stream]

i wasted 25 in-game days just to farm them
cuz as a duty player
the only way i get them is fucking from CS

[alpine fulcrum]

At this point running with buck what the founding fathers wanted is the intendet way

[thick sedge]

the photo being blurry is so funny

[analog palm]

cuz like, what do you disassemble for it? you just use any rounds you find

[rigid stream]

outside of buckshot and slugs, thats pretty much it.

[rigid stream]

1360x768 native resolution of my laptop

[thick sedge]

what the hell...

what a warrior

[rigid stream]

don't worry i got myself a monitor that now supports 1080p

[rigid stream]

besides, AP shotgun slug are actual pain in the ass to obtain anyways.

so much you better off just buying the ammo directly instead.

[dusk badge]

is it quest/run breaking to not have the Last Squad trigger in Outskirts?

Last Dawn*

[hollow shore]

when playing as monolith , am i immune to psy damage?

[rigid stream]

!lastdawn

[dawn marten]

@dusk badge

If you're stuck on the task "Last Dawn: Rescue the rogue scout unit":

Clear the building opposite the Apartment Complex
(Building is marked in red)

If you couldn't find anyone there, follow the instructions:

1. Enable debug mode: #╭📖faq message
2. Get ready to take out about 6 monolith soldiers right next to you
3. Open Object Spawner menu
4. Locate the text field that you can manually type into in the top right
5. Paste this into the text field: monolith_cs_story_squad_1
6. Select Spawn At Player setting below
7. Click Spawn
   ⠀

[rigid stream]

no, only psy-storm and emission

[hollow shore]

monolithians are immune to psy storm and emissions ?!

[rigid stream]

yes, same as Sin players.

[hollow shore]

wouldnt it make sense for them to be immune to psy damage as well ?

[rigid stream]

thats something i cannot explain about Anomaly. scripts

[hollow shore]

and lore wise?

[dusk badge]

instanly worked clearing that building ty so much

[alpine fulcrum]

Lore wise it is wild psy radiation not mind control bullshit, technicaly its xray spaghetti

So even in the lore rockbrains still can psy damage to random psy fields.

[rigid stream]

lore does not exist for Anomaly/Gamma
nothing make sense there

[alpine fulcrum]

Stalker 2 already confimred it

They just get outright zombiefied like the rest

[rigid stream]

we exclude triolgy/s2 lore off mods here since they often conflict eachother

or just the "lore we imagine ourselves"

[alpine fulcrum]

I see as yes and no, because i am not a person who doesnt argue and dont give a shit if its right or not. Only thing i know about this specific thing it is consistent

Everything else doesnt matter i play like a gorilla and crafted 41 scientific medkits again to piss of grok.

Also plastic film is a bitch destroying cooking cits for 1 film is stupid

[thick sedge]

you can't even batch disassemble cooking kits

[round onyx]

Stacked enough movement speed klondaik artifacts that I can't move 2 steps without getting damaged by collision

Ol' reliable engine jank

[celest sparrow]

I need to try Klondaik sometime

[alpine fulcrum]

I took down 88 cooking kits for 41 scientific medkits btw

[analog palm]

what's a klondaik

wait

[alpine fulcrum]

It took me 10 minutes of slowly doing that and even then i have to do it slower because its bugged and if you do it fast you get nothing from disassembling them

[analog palm]

is perkifact update out already?

[alpine fulcrum]

Idk you tell me i avoid the shiny rocks as they handicap me more then before

Heart of oasis my beloved ...

[analog palm]

idk i dont use artis

who needs magic rocks when you have steel

[alpine fulcrum]

Thats what i am saying

Tried new version without containers out, realized it hurt more stop using them

I already am a drug dealer so i stay by my drugs

[celest sparrow]

who need rock when you can simply not get hit

[round onyx]

I love getting aimbotted through vietnam fr fr I hate the swamps

[celest sparrow]

drink some water buddy

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-simpleflips-spray-windex-clean-simpleflips-discord-gif-26585974

[alpine fulcrum]

Chimeras, burers, controllers, pseudogiants, brainrocks, mutant followers, the nato goverment

[celest sparrow]

then use rock

[alpine fulcrum]

Did i mention chimeta pack of 4 ?

You saying you dodge everything which is less likely then winning the lottery or get hit by lightning

[celest sparrow]

easy, just dodge what they throw at you

at least you seem to be the type of person who might enjoy using Exosuits or Skat 9s with the upcoming Armor Rework

[near estuary]

retarded fucking inspect animations bug out and get me killed in arena

[celest sparrow]

Doom-like or GAMMA inspect disabled?

[alpine fulcrum]

Okay i want a video of you in heavy scientific suit in the north dodging the bullets of brainrocks they are "throwing" unedited and we can talk until then;

Get out of here STALKER!

[celest sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/888516333568925716/1094730113318408252/ezgif-2-5c8025bf76-1-1.gif

_ _

[celest sparrow]

[near estuary]

not playing base gamma btw but I don't have any animation mods

[celest sparrow]

How did it bug, busyhands?

[near estuary]

it was just stupidly long
like 20 seconds or something

[celest sparrow]

wack

[near estuary]

probably happened because I put on a suit and a scope on the gun I got

idk

[celest sparrow]

I guess

[near estuary]

I hate the fucking inspect anims

pointless fucking bullshit

[celest sparrow]

#📎to-do message more spawns in North pogu

[alpine fulcrum]

Switch cancel

Idk why nobody is doing it just cancel animation by switching weapong or holster it

[near estuary]

and now the game shit itself

[alpine fulcrum]

[near estuary]

I guess this was the actual reason

random shit tends to happen in my game before empty stack crashes
scopes not working, inventory not opening, animation getting stuck or broken

[alpine fulcrum]

Better then busy hands i guess

[thick sedge]

WATER'S EVERYWHERE IN THE SWAMPS

guess some stalkers are dumb frfr

[celest sparrow]

[opaque moss]

inspect anims are the best thing ever

[alpine fulcrum]

[thick sedge]

just add artifacts anims and I'm steamhappy

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/artifacts-inspection-redone10 in #📢development soon™

most The Zone™ thing you can add

[alpine fulcrum]

Okay i gonna make you deaf by firing my 50 AE indoors next to you.

[thick sedge]

TIL the technician in rostok who doesn't wear a helmet can take four 7.62x51 shots

on par with an exo helmet stalker

[celest sparrow]

important NPCs take less damage from the Player if they are Neutral in most cases

[alpine fulcrum]

Vodka

[thick sedge]

eye sea, so hostile NPCs such as Colonel Petrenko dies 1 tap like others

but I like seeing the neutral tech run around and returns to my angle

shouldn't have killed him 😔

[neon jacinth]

switching to your pistol is faster than reloading

https://tenor.com/view/switching-weapons-faster-than-reloading-h3vr-hot-dogs-horseshoes-and-hand-grenades-vr-gif-8917745804672571840

[coarse nexus]

Damn what happened to the Invictus chat, did it get nuked at some point?

[celest sparrow]

It got nuked

[coarse nexus]

rip

[hushed pier]

bro u post this for everything

[celest sparrow]

[rigid stream]

[hushed pier]

man fk invictus

That challenge took so much time from me and i didnt even complete it

I wish i never discovered ironman

[viral marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

i was there

was mostly drunk tho

still wept

[viral marsh]

its not an addiction ,its a way of life

[timber valve]

i sprint into anomalies/monos without watching i could never

[analog palm]

godddamn all the upcoming changes to north sound nice

[celest sparrow]

particularly like the increase of payment from Tasks in the North

[alpine fulcrum]

Some fucking drunk technician with enough vodka in his system to kill a bear is stronger then a stupid general incapable of dealing with bandits and stupid hippies.

[celest sparrow]

people already think that's the case, so might as well make it true

[alpine fulcrum]

Does it make a difference? Ofc not, as soon you have money you spend it on resources.

[celest sparrow]

Of course

I use the money to make more money

[alpine fulcrum]

Why more money just make everything 100 rubbles cheaper so people think it makes a difference

[celest sparrow]

make it 1ru cheaper
so people think it's a deal when they see the 799ru Gauss rifle

[alpine fulcrum]

In the end a medic with drug kit still overprices over eggheads in term of medical supplies.

[analog palm]

i was thinking more about population increase

im already stupid rich by the time i get to scorcher

[celest sparrow]

that too

[alpine fulcrum]

Yeah sure if you play tourist medium you get rich

[celest sparrow]

It was weird that obtaining the Duga Free achievement reduced the spawn rates around the North, so it won't be the case anymore

[alpine fulcrum]

I am wondering where is everybody even before duga free

[analog palm]

im usually at 1 mil by day 3

on hard

[alpine fulcrum]

In 0.9.1 and 9.3. I had the feeling there were more people.

[analog palm]

gamma isnt difficult

like at all

[alpine fulcrum]

If you press debug

[celest sparrow]

the onlyfans business is so easy to get going during the early game

[alpine fulcrum]

LASS Onlyfans NFSW edition

[analog palm]

how much money do you have by end of day 1

[alpine fulcrum]

0 because i am a murder hobo and spend what i need in the future and now.

[analog palm]

fuck do you spend it on

[alpine fulcrum]

What you mean rich?! This is black money its worth nothing

[cerulean fable]

Just want to say that the Character Transfer mod that Grok is adding to the next version is AMAZING. I had a save that had reached the item ID limit and was constantly crashing. Doomed normally if it's not your stashes as the problem, right? Well, with that mod I was able to transfer my whole character progression, equipment, stats, reputation, location, everything you can think of to a brand new save base. It just worked. The sole limitation of note is that it doesn't preserve mission progression related to the stories, but that's a small price to pay to be able to basically continue my run uninterrupted

[alpine fulcrum]

Ammo, meds, trash, cooking, Repair material.

[analog palm]

repair on day 1???

[celest sparrow]

Location
Does it actually transfer items in Stashes and Furniture

[analog palm]

buh

i usually run with starter equipment until i get gunsmith and advanced

cuz armor repair is ass

[cerulean fable]

So it has a button that will automatically transfer every item in your stashes into your inventory in a configurable radius. For "anomalous" distant stashes (not really sure what that means) and stashes that you can't really get to, it will instead read out the contents and compensate you for the value of them in roubles

[alpine fulcrum]

Murder hobo with atleast 8 stashes looted and basic tools, what do you do hoard money? Dude i already doing 9 mission at the same time

[analog palm]

i dont hoard it

there's just nothing to spend it on

except ammo

[cerulean fable]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/new-game-enhanced-character-transfer-mod

[analog palm]

but early on i use shotguns which are stupidly cheap to run

[celest sparrow]

Wouldn't you just be a really fat fuck if you hoard a lot

like everything going into your inventory

[alpine fulcrum]

You have 0 imagination

[cerulean fable]

That's why they suggest you enable dev mode and turn on god mode just so you can put your furniture back down and items back into them

[celest sparrow]

lol

Yeah makes sense

[cerulean fable]

and yeah you'll need to pick up your furniture objects but as long as they're in your inventory then you're good

[alpine fulcrum]

Throw it on the ground and crash the fps

[celest sparrow]

but it's a way to transfer saves that are killed with busyhands I guess

[analog palm]

is that any different to just starting a new run and going in debug and spawning some of equipment you had

like what's the point

reputiation and rank, maybe?

[cerulean fable]

New Iron-man mode: Spam the item ID limit to near max and try to play until your save corrupts

[celest sparrow]

ID Limit% speedrun

[alpine fulcrum]

Just spam craft cheap garbage

Ammo is not hard to spam

[analog palm]

i dont think just ammo can do that

[alpine fulcrum]

That or drop entire ammo on the floor

[analog palm]

why dont black road have ingame toggle

guh

what the fuck is this

holy shit i hate SSS

[scenic trench]

are you holding a knife there...?

[analog palm]

yes

swinging

playing with sss settings trying to get rid of these artefacts

eh i'll just fucking remove it altogether

[alpine fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-eww-meme-eww-eww-gif-gif-1452572770363109714

[subtle jewel]

Honestly, just looks like the temporal module is breaking. Your install is probably bad or you're using the new MT exes which don't work with TAA and Bloom at the moment

Or it's the global illumination breaking

[cerulean fable]

Hot take but as much of a necessity it is nowadays, I dispise temporal AA. It's evil and outright makes impossible certain graphical effects that something like a Playstation 2 would have no trouble doing.

I recognize its utility and depise the fact that it's used regardless

[near estuary]

I hate it because it makes almost every game look like smeared shit and along with motion blur, it has caused me several migraines in the past

[cerulean fable]

I like motion blur but TAA makes it much worse

[analog palm]

love tc

got pelican case from dark signal

just need 10 lockpicks now

[celest sparrow]

gambling

[round onyx]

Reloaded a fucking swamp camp clear quest so many times it now crashed my game
Holy fuck I forgot how much I hated the aimbotting npcs through all foliage that I just skipped the GS entirely back in the day

[analog palm]

oh welp

got a mossberg

not from case, just drop

run's pretty much done

aaaand gun tools

inb4 i get a pkm when i go to wipe military

[analog palm]

man i love slugs

nothing more satisfying than making someone backflip

or double tapping

[undone osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023569617127485440/1046911075184017479/maxicanolivereaction2.gif

[whole prawn]

Is 65% the lowest armor dura you can repair/

[valid crater]

50% with the according armor repair kit, 0% with repair kit + replacement parts at a workbench, 65% with sewing kits.

[analog palm]

guhhh

10 lockpicks gone to waste

[stable trout]

is there a way to completely reset all settings?

[near estuary]

!default

[dawn marten]

@stable trout
To bring your mod list, settings and keybinds back to default, inverting any changes made by you:

1. Open the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher with admin rights
2. Uncheck every box EXCEPT Delete Reshade DLLs
3. Click on Install / Update G.A.M.M.A

Note: If you wish to keep your keybinds and graphical settings, go to Anomaly\appdata and backup user.ltx.

[stable trout]

does it again take so long to reinstall?

[near estuary]

no

[stable trout]

oh

[analog palm]

holy shit i just did a pretty much flawless wipe on machine yard

[near estuary]

no infinite poop glitch?

[analog palm]

fuck is that

[stable trout]

he reacted to you saying "flawless wipe"

[stable trout]

it did not help :( still the old settings

[analog palm]

gonna go to dead city real quick to submit some more tasks

also forgot to take mainline quest

[near estuary]

u sure?

[stable trout]

well, they are the same as before

[near estuary]

nah like
did you do the steps correctly

[stable trout]

yes, it is literally 3 steps
although the downloader does this:

[round onyx]

"Imma do the House of Horrors quest. Dang, I need it to be night for it to pop up, I'm gonna use the sleeping bag and sleep it out in this building here."

Nearly had a fucking heart attack jfc

[near estuary]

outdated launcher

download the new one

[stable trout]

oh

well damn

okay thanks

[alpine elm]

Holy crap this mod pack has come a long way

How do you stop campfire stutters again?

[stable trout]

where can I find it?

[near estuary]

!v8

[dawn marten]

@stable trout Update your GAMMA Launcher:

1. Add your GAMMA and Anomaly folders to the Windows Defender exclusions and disable Real-time protection temporarily, before downloading the file.
   You can find these settings here:

Windows Security > Virus & threat protection > Manage settings

2. Grab the latest launcher: G.A.M.M.A. Launcher v8.3 (mediafire link)
3. Extract everything from the archive, into the your GAMMA folder/.Grok's Modpack Installer folder
4. Launch the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher.exe with Admin Rights and either:

Follow the instructions from a Helper that is helping you.
OR
Press Install/Update G.A.M.M.A without disabling anything.
⠀

[stable trout]

thanks a lot

[near estuary]

[stable trout]

now I can update ❤️‍🩹

[analog palm]

this about does it

goonight

would have more money if i hadnt bought cooking kit and fuel and ammo totaling about 60k

[stable trout]

do I hit play after updating or do I close and start GAMMA using the desktop shortcut?

[stable trout]

good night

[near estuary]

both should work

[stable trout]

okay

thanks

[ivory cipher]

I have turned off the brain scorcher, but when I go north of dead city or army warehouses my brain still gets fried, what else do I have to do?

I do have a calibrated psy helmet

[stable trout]

did you disable the brain machine?

[stable trout]

in yantar

[ivory cipher]

yes, i just did

[stable trout]

oh

[sick yoke]

did you disable miracle machine (in yantar) and brain scorcher (in radar)

[ivory cipher]

1 sec ill show u

just the one north of Yanter

[sick yoke]

you need to do brain scorcher in radar too

[ivory cipher]

aaaa ok

so i can go north of army warehouses now

yeah i forgot about that one

[stable trout]

https://tenor.com/view/crine-im-crine-son-im-crine-anthony-mackie-tiktok-gif-10273212848663596705

[ivory cipher]

love the graphics on this game

[frigid gyro]

how smooth it is running with that much grass

[ivory cipher]

VERY!

4k 60 fps on rtx 3070

but I using something that I can write in here because i get temporary banned

its a project that closed-sourced and helps with the FPS of the game

[thick sedge]

doesn't solve with the stutters

but it makes my game smooth, yes

[ivory cipher]

kind of does for me, i had to lower some settings in SSS also i recommend going to settings > modded exes > Optimizations and change lua garbage collection to 1500

it will help with stutters

cap fps at 60

u are right, its not 100% without stutters

[thick sedge]

the thing is I don't use sss 🔥

haven't touched the lua garbage sliders

[ivory cipher]

what pc u have

[thick sedge]

but as we wait for new update with new mt exes, from what I've read the users here the fps gain is great

[ivory cipher]

lower shawdows to 1525 or whatever number and prefetch sounds too

[thick sedge]

Ryzen 7 6800H and a 3060 mobile

[ivory cipher]

for me arrival mod worsed my fps and stutters so i turned it off

[thick sedge]

SAME

I'm still having stutters over lighting because I installed Better Shaders mod

worth it

[ivory cipher]

Well my pc is a bit bette ri have 5700x3d and rtx 3070

And i still stutter

[thick sedge]

ooo yep that X3D is a long term CPU

[thick sedge]

it's anomaly + not the newest engine

😔

[trim wolf]

hum. RF reciever has been changed since i played last. How does it work now?

[ivory cipher]

I dont think it has changed

You just change the numbers with click or shift +click

And it will beep when u are near

And beep faster when u are reallly close

[trim wolf]

but how do you see the numbers?

i am just looking at a speaker

[stable trout]

oh

[trim wolf]

kinda hard to see any numbers

[stable trout]

yo where the screen

[ivory cipher]

LOL

[stable trout]

the screen is supposed to be on the top

the speaker below

you got a weird one

[trim wolf]

I don't know what to tell ya

[ivory cipher]

you need to change FOV

btw how can i look around with my head without turning my wepaon

alt doesnt work

[stable trout]

wait the screen is not at the top? 💔

[trim wolf]

tried. It didn't do anything.

i might have some ultrawide fuckery, i guess

[naive haven]

god dam how do i get my game like this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3YoXWhLRt_w

[ivory cipher]

you need to buy a 5090 :))

[keen bronze]

Learn how to edit videos

[ivory cipher]

also he uses the same grass and character models as me

GFY models and C-Conc grass

anyone knows ho can i free look?

turn my head without my gun?

[keen bronze]

Mouse 4 or 5, one of them

[ivory cipher]

thanks

that worked

[thick sedge]

he put reshade on top of sss

[keen bronze]

Could also be that, yes

[naive haven]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-cat-silly-fella-kitty-bleh-tongue-out-gif-7128475010806448922

[ivory cipher]

reshade or LUT's

everytime i restart game i have to change my "r2_sun_lumscale 3.0
r2_sun_lumscale_hemi 1.0
r2_sun_lumscale_amb 0.5" settings

is there any way to save them?

[thick sedge]

make a mod with that

so it's like:

lumi.ltx in it

then cfg_load lumi though I'm not sure if it can overwrite cfg_load atmos it won't I'm sure cause it only touches lumiscale

[ivory cipher]

dud u answered faster than my question wtf

thanks

this guy's a creeper - radiohead

but im a creep too

[thick sedge]

on second thought just put your custom user.ltx inside anomaly/appdata and cfg_load

[whole prawn]

Two questions whats remote looting & L ctrl is the bind to see items at max dur?

[sick yoke]

what the fuck is smart app control and why did it randomly decide to start blocking zi today

like specifically only today and never before

[thick sedge]

windows breaking things, a classic

[sick yoke]

turned off smart app control and it still gave me the blue popup box lol

so like

what the fuck was the point in smart app control

[atomic pebble]

top 5 best malwares bloatwares of windows!!!

[rare prism]

kinda a dumb question but does Warsaw have a 45 ACP equivalent

[celest sparrow]

No

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow do you know what's needed for the secret server btw

[celest sparrow]

No lol

I've yet to get that

[sick yoke]

i clicked through it so i know it's at the very least arena badge + nuke + 30 mythril bars

but i don't have 30 so lol

[celest sparrow]

Damn, that's rather specific

[sick yoke]

for obvious reasons can't finish it so i'll leave it for next run

good thing the wonder looter shooter arti has a chance to drop cc or mythril on kill

[rare prism]

how tf does the infinity carry 15 45 rounds? is it double stacked?

[frank oxide]

yep

[celest sparrow]

I need to get back into it to 100% it

But having projects to do and GAMMA testing got me

[frank oxide]

gamma testing

[whole prawn]

how the fuck do you do the anomalous study missions

[frank oxide]

!study / equip correct device > get as close to the anomaly as possible > task updates > you wait > task updates > return to taskgiver

confirm with your map that the anomaly is on the ground level or if it's higher/lower
having multiple study tasks can cause them to bug out, sometimes you need to dismantle one of the devices to cause a task failure

[dawn marten]

@whole prawn
If the anomalous study task is not completing, double check if you have multiple detectors.
If you do, swap them around to find the correct one, they are NOT interchangeable with each other.

[whole prawn]

ohh that was probally my issue, you know how long you need to wait?

[frank oxide]

20-30 seconds?

[whole prawn]

damn I cant survive that long is the chem one

[sick yoke]

@rigid stream do i have to kill the goat gosling

[thick sedge]

army medkit and a chem resist pill will help

[rare prism]

what are the base and outpost locations for monolith?

[thick sedge]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sCjENxwKv749jEOi6-Wxc8CyF5YeDP5H/view

[rare prism]

ty

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow stuff needed to get the secret server achievement btw

[naive haven]

can stalker gamma use hdr?

[ivory cipher]

Earlier i needed help to keep moving north and ppl told me to disable the machine at radar, but i cant even get into radar even tho i have the psi helmet

shouldn't this helmet help?

[sick yoke]

@rigid stream got the achievement for genocide but didn't get the special text in workshop telling me to kill all the important npcs (monika and carter don't even leave their goon cave so i can't even kill them lol)

i assume that means the run is bricked which is honestly a whatever because i got the achievement anyway

[radiant star]

fart

[drowsy vale]

sometimes you can find a decent not very hazardous spot or pop a blue medkit so it heals you while you collect data

[drowsy vale]

did you disable miracle machine

[celest sparrow]

Saving this for a future run

[sick yoke]

You didn’t disable miracle machine then

[thick sedge]

you forgor

[ivory cipher]

BUT I DID

[ivory cipher]

yes i did

[thick sedge]

are you su...

[ivory cipher]

Is it the one north of Yantar?

see? i did disable it

[sick yoke]

You hit all 3 levers on the room with the stairs and the 4th in the control room?

[drowsy vale]

I believe you

Must be jamma fuckery

I'd restart

[thick sedge]

go in there again

just do godmode if you can't be bothered to die

[ivory cipher]

yep

and then a controller came

killed him

and i think its because i teleported out after and not walked out

i fast travel after i killed the controller and i didnt jump down the tunnels and shit

i think thats why maybe

[thick sedge]

LIKELY

that's the only map transition you have to do

after it you can fast travel and not deal with the giant

xd

[ivory cipher]

haha u read my mind

i didnt had bullets in my shotgun for the giant

so i thought i should just skip it

[sick yoke]

@celest sparrow ace meta is possibly back

[celest sparrow]

If you want to use Artifacts, yeah

[sick yoke]

Unless it eats a heavy br%/BR nerf it’ll still pretty much be the best and most convenient armor won’t it

[celest sparrow]

It sits at 38 BR% and 46BRC
I think Plates + Giant Pelt will push to protect against 9x39 AP

[sick yoke]

Anyway I think what I’m going to do for my next full run is try to knock out Great Depression

[celest sparrow]

Isn't that the run where you avoid buying anything

[sick yoke]

Maybe the uh

Starting suit only achievement too

Yeah no opening trade menu

On the bright side it doesn’t stop me from upgrading Artis

[celest sparrow]

I got it done with NG+
Probably will do the same with the starting suit achievement

[sick yoke]

Maybe also do pistol only in the same run but idk

I could easily lump that one in with melee only

[junior quest]

are there more eric clapton easter eggs in gamma?

[rare prism]

why does the DVL-10 use 7.62 NATO if its a warsaw gun?

[ivory cipher]

Its not

Its nato ammo

[lethal steeple]

that's what bro said tho

[dusk vessel]

Rifle was made in russia in 2005-2010

You can get it in a lot of calibres and bacause gamma is tarkovified its in 7.62x51

[sick yoke]

Funny how it’s in so many calibers that Wikipedia said “fuck it, others” and didn’t bother including x51

And that most of the ones they did list are so stupid obscure that they don’t even have a page

[ivory cipher]

i went in there again and it wasn't activated but i still can't go north

Anyone knows why I can't go towards Radar?

I do have Psy-Helmet , calibrated

[glossy drift]

you turned off the Miracle Machine ?

[celest sparrow]

did you disable both the Brain Scorcher and Miracle Machine

oh Radar

did you disable the Miracle Machine

inb4 redone

[ivory cipher]

yes

i did disable Miracle Machine

and i went back to check and all the lights were on

[celest sparrow]

So all 3 levers + main lever were pulled

[ivory cipher]

yep

[celest sparrow]

are you running redone

[ivory cipher]

yes

[celest sparrow]

then ask in the redone thread

[ivory cipher]

oh ok

[celest sparrow]

I vaguely remember someone having a similar issue but I don't know the solution for it

I guess you followed this guide? https://docs.google.com/document/d/13fBpqSK7G9Peet-rbLgcjgmlMtIPGe0hS8SVQDuhWhY/edit?tab=t.0

[sick yoke]

💀

[valid loom]

[thick sedge]

redone more like redeez

[ivory cipher]

I wenr back and tried to pull all 4 levers again, obly the first 3 can be switched on or off

[celest sparrow]

There's 1 on each level and the one at the top

were you able to leave the Miracle Machine before after lowering each

[ivory cipher]

Yes

[ivory cipher]

I know. Ive done this at least 15 times before haha

[celest sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602077288296742913/1307761727768756274/yea-1.gif

[ivory cipher]

Is one of my favohrite games

[celest sparrow]

yeah not sure what you're supposed to do to fix this

[ivory cipher]

Ill try to go radar with god mode

But i dont think it works

I still halucinate and die

[celest sparrow]

yeah it's scripted death

the only thing I can think of is if you disable PsyFields in North mod

[ivory cipher]

Yeo im screwed

I might try that

where is that mod

[celest sparrow]

mo2

[celest sparrow]

!mo2search

[dawn marten]

@ivory cipherUse the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods.
⠀

[ivory cipher]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/redone-psy-fix

i think this is what i need

[celest sparrow]

might help

[ivory cipher]

My god this game has evolved so much

There is a mod for any wish i have and a fix for any problem

It worked!!!!

So if anyone has problem with redone (re:done) still taking psy damage even with psy helmet i stall this mod

[lethal steeple]

redone (re:done)

[steep elm]

re:doneded

[rigid stream]

hes immortal anyways,
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029824156289732649/1473633488916844685/2026-02-18_17-48-41.mp4?ex=699b88e2&is=699a3762&hm=4075661627de11fd53f1fda47cd11147d055ceca3eb06f18dc2da80ec5665651&

trust me, i tried

[rigid stream]

for this one, if you got this when you reached workshop, you're at the right direction

[rigid stream]

yep.
oh for fucks sake i realized it also needed arena badge

workshop section it only give you subtle hint
untill simp core where it just obvious

[sick yoke]

oh lol i never gave her the ssd that's why

[rigid stream]

you mostly follow the same pathway like any run just kos till post-simp core.

[analog palm]

#📎mods-added-for-next-build grok finally adding things I've had installed for 4 years

[steep elm]

lol

[analog palm]

Need sprint-cancels-toggles now

[rose plover]

Got a stash at the fallen helicopter but unfortunately the psy-field is too dangerous for me to move in even with psy-block

Guess i gotta invest in some protection on my equipment

[uncut agate]

Actually nuts that hasn't been added. I've been using that forever.

[analog palm]

yea

[gaunt agate]

This guy is fucking hilarious

[analog palm]

i kinda agree

ideally you'd respect the creator's wish

but

it's internet

anything uploaded will be reposted, used, edited and whatever else

[hasty goblet]

Yeah you can't really expect to control what happens to a file you upload.

[gaunt agate]

It's like oflin said

It's the youtube commentary channel issue but for mod creators

[thick sedge]

lmao I just failed living legend

so you can give documents to this bandit

[sick yoke]

yeah but this happening is a huge difference from "giving consent" for it to happen

most obvious example being ai shit

just because an artist posts some insanely good art on twitter doesn't mean they're "giving consent" for people to mutilate their art by running it through grok or whatever

[dusk vessel]

Same with music or movies

Just because theyre on youtube doesent mean you can freely repost them

Bzw from an official source

[lethal steeple]

it's less hilarious that this is how 99% of this server unironically thinks

like i got shit for saying that people could at the very least let rotten life cool down for a little bit of time instead of reuploading it to 1 trillion different hosting sites the frame after the original author deleted it and stated that he didn't wish for his craft to be used anywhere just like that

nooooo dude "your" mod is on the internet, it's there forever, YOU should've fucking learned your lesson

[analog palm]

all im hearing is that artists shouldnt post on twitter

[lethal steeple]

instead of idk thinking rationally and respectfully uhhh "defiant", if you will

[sick yoke]

i can't tell if you're making a joke or genuine with that

[analog palm]

both

twitter is a shithole and should have never become a place for posting art

in any serious capacity

[sick yoke]

cause i wouldn't be surprised if some people's train of thought genuinely stopped at just "well don't post on twitter " and didn't go any further

[lethal steeple]

have you heard of an analogy

bro would use the same rebuttal to like any social media you could ever mention

[sick yoke]

because just saying "don't post on twitter " isn't a solution when that applies to literally every social media site that allows image uploads

[lethal steeple]

uploading photos to facebook is "giving consent" to train ai
well you should've never posted on facebook it's a shithole that should've never came to be in any serious capacity

[near estuary]

are we starting this again

[analog palm]

facebook is a shithole

and nbody should have to ever use it

[lethal steeple]

point proven

[near estuary]

but that doesn't mean anything in this case

[sick yoke]

like, i don't think there's a single image site that people can't just use for ai shit

[analog palm]

pretty much

hopefully ai craze dies down properly

[sick yoke]

you might as well just be saying "art as a medium shouldn't exist digitally" at that point

[gaunt agate]

yes

[sick yoke]

which is like, genuinely the most stupid thing ever

[lethal steeple]

it's not the point of the matter at the end of the day

[analog palm]

yes

[sick yoke]

anyway yeah posting stuff on the internet isn't the same as explicitly giving consent

[lethal steeple]

inevitable mention of this is the exact reason why people close source shit

inevitable mention of that one engine

there i did it chat

[analog palm]

i think of it more like agreeing to ToS

[lethal steeple]

please clap

[analog palm]

you dont necessarily agree to it, but if you dont you cant really use the service

[gaunt agate]

the forbidden black sheep of the gamma community

[lethal steeple]

the black sheep as an interpretation

like

god that one time grok had this same crashout from the pov of the community

[gaunt agate]

oh im just joking

[lethal steeple]

when a mod author didn't want his mod in gamma

[gaunt agate]

i just like how nobody ever mentions it by name

[lethal steeple]

but that's like part of the course really since that guy fucking sucks

[near estuary]

and did the author (Juan) replace the mod files with goatse before or after this?

[lethal steeple]

and then the duality of man

when bro started going insane when people ripped the raptr from gamma

[analog palm]

all this is just moderately interesting drama for me

[lethal steeple]

it's not that

[analog palm]

if i want a mod in gamba, i add it

just like how i remove all mods i dont like

[lethal steeple]

it's far before juan's ban

and also juan never ever agreed to having his mods in gamma

like he very openly said so himself

he never got asked

he never wanted them in gamma

[near estuary]

so the BRN is literally just stolen?

[lethal steeple]

but, you know, it's on the internet

[analog palm]

didnt he post his stuff in #1035807043933720576?

[sick yoke]

myth of consent meme reframed

[lethal steeple]

yeah so does that mean he's giving consent

[dusk vessel]

I remember

He specifically said they werent made for gamma

[sick yoke]

just because i post a meme on the internet doesn't mean i'm explicitly giving permission for an unknown third party to use it

[analog palm]

...that just seems weird. why post your mods in a mod-posting forum of a modpack server, if you expressly dont want that mod to be included in said modpack?

also brn180 being in 762x39 is stupid as shit

[lethal steeple]

that's grok's change

[dusk vessel]

Its not

7.62 variant exists

[analog palm]

i know

still stupid as shit

[dusk vessel]

And itd be boring to have just another 5.56 ar

[lethal steeple]

yeah but the model is the 5.56 one

[dusk vessel]

Ik

With a 7.62 mag

It doesent fit prolerly

[near estuary]

NO NOOOOOOOO
WE NEEEEEEEEEEEEED ANOTHER GENERIC AR-15 LOOKALIKE IN 556

[dusk vessel]

I mean i talked to him about the brn some time ago

[analog palm]

could've made in 300blk

[lethal steeple]

so this just circles back to digital art like a2 mentioned before

[analog palm]

the superior calibre

[near estuary]

yeah and implement a whole new fucking cartridge

[analog palm]

yes

[near estuary]

[dusk vessel]

9x39>300.blk

[analog palm]

nuh uh

.300 > 9 x 39

and 762x39 too

[near estuary]

[gaunt agate]

waiter waiter more 5.56slop please

more saturation yum yum

[willow swift]

uhh is this supposed to happen? other than hd models and ui mod i dont have any other different settings. Just picked it up from the floor next to a dead guy

[analog palm]

im actually for removing like, 80% of weapons in game

[near estuary]

maybe you want people to have easy access to your mod but you don't want the mod to be a "native" part of the modpack itself
there's layers to this

[analog palm]

eh i guess so

[lethal steeple]

recall to the time i posted my savescum script in mods posting

[gaunt agate]

layers, like onion

[analog palm]

im far too unbothered to ever have a strong stance on something like that

i'd be mildly annoyed if someone stole my thing and claimed it was theirs, but that's about it

[lethal steeple]

that's a crazy backpedal

[dusk vessel]

When the D type gun has only 4/5 green parts so you reload the save again

Gamma expierience

[lethal steeple]

bro is basking in the sun on one side

convo gets deep

proceeds to fence sit

[dusk vessel]

Or you get hit once in your first gunfight and instead of healing reload a save

Incredible gameplay people do

[analog palm]

momo i was always on the fence

[lethal steeple]

nah

[analog palm]

do you think "it's internet" was going to either side? it's like saying "it is what it is"

[near estuary]

nah, it's just a contradiction
believing that author's consent doesn't matter when it comes to redistributing/using his work is like the strongest stance you could have in this situation

[lethal steeple]

.

[analog palm]

yeah, it is what it is

doesnt mean i like it, or dislike it, i just accept it as undeniable reality

[lethal steeple]

yet it's the least agreed on

and the one that'll get you burnt at the stake

[sick yoke]

doesn't fence sitting imply that you could go either way

[analog palm]

consent should matter but with how the internet is, it practically doesnt

[sick yoke]

not caring implies that you wouldn't have a stance regardless

[near estuary]

I guess

[gaunt agate]

with context i suppose

[sick yoke]

idk

[gaunt agate]

but then you would have to kind of take a side anyways

[analog palm]

context, it's always context, i dont understand the people who have only one stance and stay on that stance in every situation

[sick yoke]

i don't know the definition of fence sitting anyway

[lethal steeple]

what is your take on ai

[analog palm]

cool tech, massively misused both by people and corpos

and genai isnt the only kind of ai, remember that

[sick yoke]

i just think that if you're fence sitting that means you'd be able to be convinced one way or the other

but if you straight up don't care then you wouldn't be able to be convinced

[lethal steeple]

yeah i know

i didn't mention specifically genai

[sick yoke]

so like, not really fence sitting to me

[gaunt agate]

it just feels like a political buzzword for being indifferent

[sick yoke]

damn 😔

[analog palm]

indeed, but majority of people seem to believe that generative ai is the only kind of ai, since it's the most controversial and heaviy encroaches on copyright, privacy and all that shit

[gaunt agate]

dont take what I say at face value thats just my interpretation

[lethal steeple]

yes and why is it controversial and encroaches on copyright and privacy??

please complete the sentence

[analog palm]

...that's the sentence

[near estuary]

[lethal steeple]

complete the idea then

[analog palm]

i guess it's same as the whole reposting thing?

[lethal steeple]

say it's because it's taking content from people

[pallid mountain]

yooo is that a stance

[lethal steeple]

without, you know, consent

[lethal steeple]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh uh huh so it is a bad thing

[rose musk]

[lethal steeple]

now we're actually getting somewhere see how easy it is to realize it actually is just black and white

[analog palm]

not really, archival is good imo

[near estuary]

huh

[gaunt agate]

black and white is not a great way of looking at things

[lethal steeple]

where is the gray area in not respecting an author's wishes if they're not ill intended and just stealing their work to repost it everywhere

[analog palm]

reposting is a form of archival, assuming the original thing is, well, still original after respots, and publicly accessible.

the stuff ai harvests is neither public, nor remains original for long

[gaunt agate]

yeah but you need permission to do that

[analog palm]

that raises a whole new issue

[lethal steeple]

yyyyyyyyeah?

sooooooooo

[pallid mountain]

archival is different from using a product in yours with no consent

an example: like recording and saving someone's streams but not uploading them

[analog palm]

you could also upload it expressly as 'for archival purposes', which would be fine imo

or you could upload it as your own content, which wouldnt be fine

[pallid mountain]

it would only be archival if you uploaded with consent

[lethal steeple]

okay i concede there is a gray area i mentioned it myself earlier in the convo

let the thing cool down

archive afterwards if the author is unreachable

not one frame after he deletes

[analog palm]

that works, was gonna bring up about what to do if author just goes offline, possibly forever

cuz like, (in case it's a mod or similar) fuck all the people who enjoyed their work, i guess?

[pallid mountain]

that is a good point

[analog palm]

as i said it's so context, intent, and situation dependent that having a single, concrete stance on it is just stupid

[gaunt agate]

archiving is useful as an anti-censorship tool as well, since a lot of videos with informative information can get taken down by youtube for whatever reason, but using it in a video for your own purposes and etcetera, is not archiving.

[lethal steeple]

the other day i had a guy that's not even from this server, reached to me through the anomaly server, asking me for permission to use and upload my 20ga slugs mod from 5 years ago that i posted here in the old mods posting channel

and he waited for me to respond before doing anything

it's yet again a thing that's local to the gamma community

[analog palm]

that's neat

there's nothing else, if ya'll are expecting something

that's legit neat and how it should be

[lethal steeple]

if he was a gamma denizen he would've spouted shit about the channel being removed, me being an asshole for locking my mod threads that i don't care for anymore, uploaded it to 10 different hosting sites and put the link in his bio, and so on and so forth

is this a gross over generalization? of course

is it wrong at all? no

[novel ruin]

Hey how do i turn on the debugger to spawn an item in GAMMA? A dying stalker was supposed to spawn nearby a pda that was a quest item, and it didnt spawn where ir should have been.

[lethal steeple]

just look in newbies and see how many colored names have "rotten life in bio"

[gaunt agate]

yeah I saw a couple today

[pallid mountain]

yeah the whole rotten life thing is really sad to see

[near estuary]

!debug

[dawn marten]

@novel ruin How to enable debug mode: #╭📖faq message

[novel ruin]

Thanks

[gaunt agate]

whats the story behind that

[near estuary]

basically the dude nuked the mod off the internet

and people still want to use it

so the only choice is this

[lethal steeple]

bro's shit got used without permission in some shitpack, had a somewhat valid but overreacted crashout over it, deleted the texture pack and stated that he doesn't want his stuff to be used in shitpacks without permission

so everyone started doing the opposite

[analog palm]

not exactly info thing but a youtuber made a very cool and in-depth video on designing a modern bulpup rifle (completely legal stuff), youtube deleted it a few days later but luckily people had downloaded the vid, and uploaded that (youtube didnt take those down for some reason).

the original creator then posted the same video on other site, but what if he hadnt? that'd be some very cool and rare content potentially lost forever