╓☢stalker-chat

[sonic verge]

or qualities, a book can have

[fallen pond]

I asked a question

[sonic verge]

Ok, yeah they can be depressing.

[fallen pond]

If you read into this (which I recommend you do because it’s actually kinda interesting) - The whole Doomer movement was started by Russians

Life in Russia is not very good

[sonic verge]

i dont think doomerism started in russia but russia no doubt has a lot of doomers

all of eastern europe seems to be miserable af

[fallen pond]

When I say doomer I’m referring to the modern/internet incarnation of the term

[sonic verge]

i still dont think that started in russia

[fallen pond]

Nah it did

[sonic verge]

werent they behind on the internet for a while?

doomerism is everywhere

[fallen pond]

That… yeah it’s everywhere now I’m saying Russians really progressed the idea into its modern incarnation

It started with doomer music

[sonic verge]

what reading do you have that suggets that?

And what is the "doomer culture" you are even describing

[thick sedge]

do you know where the option to remove old ammo wheel from sota ui? there's no clear info in the mcm

[fallen pond]

https://francis-press.com/uploads/papers/k87iG2TXuub4trK7q6hWPNdT6gRxjDb37IQRKVns.pdf#:~:text=They are prominently confused about life%2C unable,the future and hope of a country.

[sonic verge]

I find this message funny

[dusk vessel]

Its a miserable place to live, ton of young guys are heavy alcoholics with no hope for a future

If you play cs on russian servers 90% of them have doomer themed profiles

[lethal patrol]

did you scroll down when installing sota ui

[fallen pond]

Long story short - Eastern Europe is made up of Psuedo failed states with high technological development

[dusk vessel]

While in other regions its not even close

[fallen pond]

The country itself is so big that that one end of the country is out of sync with the other

[sonic verge]

not close yet

[thick sedge]

nice I didn't scroll down, the 2 AM really hit me 🔥

[fallen pond]

Like I’m not joking there are areas of the country still running with tech from the 90’s

[sonic verge]

you know what this conversation makes me want to look at doomer music from other countries, like china, or chile or something.

[dusk vessel]

Germany has a lot

[fallen pond]

I don’t think China allow that sort of thing

[dusk vessel]

Try gallowdance

[sonic verge]

You dont need to explain I know how much of a shithole country Russia is and post soviet states are, I have been interested in this since my teenage years

I was a russiaboo at one point lol

[sonic verge]

china is not that bad lmao, they have sad music in china

the average chinese person isnt that affected by the great firewall, they can view that stuff

[dusk vessel]

Ive made a lot of chinese friends through competing in racing game

[sonic verge]

Спокойная ночь doomerified is the best doomer music

Кино generally

[dusk vessel]

They can use the internet like most people, but it might change in the future

[fair remnant]

Im not re-installing gamma after this attempt

Storage space be damned installing this fucking modpack makes me want to blow my brains out with a toz

[mild wing]

[thick sedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387982165773520986/1431769314800832604/ScreenRecording_10-25-2025_23-02-08_1.gif

[runic olive]

how do i make the game a little brighter

im in the piss dimension in radar rn

too bright for NVG too dark for eyes

please someone i cant fucking fight like this

[cedar bramble]

new year new version surprise pretty please

[sonic verge]

have you guys heard the grok allegations?

[runic olive]

for the love of god someone PLEASE

[sonic verge]

idk the solution ma'am

[cedar bramble]

the newly released grok files?

[valid crater]

Brightness settings in default anomaly options? Crank up the gamma and brightness. 🤡

And too bright for NV = skill issue, you know you can adjust the gain on NVs?

[sonic verge]

does anyone know why when i change gamma in Anomaly Old world addon it reverts back to its default

is there some mod moverwriting it that is part of Old world addon? I want more color

[runic olive]

i just didnt know where the option was

i wasnt in my right mind as ive been dying for over 90 mins now

[paper rock]

dude ive been actually cursed. ive been stuck in an ACH helm for like 20 hours at this point and haven't seen single heavy helm besides the heavy gas mask since

i think i saw sphere on a military guy like 5 hours in and i feel only regret

and yeah i do have a exo helm but my drop luck has been awful

[sonic verge]

what other places in the world do you think a universe like stalker could exist well?

that one japanese power plant situation is the only thing that comes to mind. I would love a stalker like universe set like around area 51 or some shit.

it would also be cool to see slavic folklore creatures in stalker

maybe not actually the creatures themselves but mutants that stalkers nicknamed after em

[atomic pebble]

Venezuela

[sonic verge]

why?

[atomic pebble]

Venezuela

[sonic verge]

Ah

but like why? did they have a similar nuclear disaster?

[atomic pebble]

are venezuela

[sonic verge]

do you want to go to war with venezuela or something?

[mild gust]

Is there anything that gives psi-recovery, rather than just resistance?

[paper rock]

how annoying is -6 health regen?

[mild gust]

sounds terrible

[worn tartan]

is it a warcrime if he's already in the fire?

[valid crater]

Give it a try and see, it's not that bad if you got something with +6 health regen aswell.

[paper rock]

heres where im at

the giant pelt gives 12% ballistic res and im net 15% res from the artis with +1 regen with the heart

im basically capped here i think

ig i could wear an empty

[turbid heart]

just updated from gog and its crashing on armour repairs

[hollow marlin]

He just “fell” in the campfire..

[worn tartan]

does anyone know why the fuck hip is running around refusing to equip a weapon

[cedar comet]

because you didnt mod hip out of the game

[supple folio]

wtf i keep getting a download error

on gamma specifically

anomaly was fine

[sonic verge]

hip is stupid

im not getting that stupid fucking gun for her

[bold token]

Why would you mod her out when you can just shoot her?

[worn tartan]

is this how fractures are made

[latent elbow]

[lethal patrol]

same reaction

[mental furnace]

buff urself with morphine

[upper rock]

I went into the cauterizer and had to leave because I didn't have equipment, now when I walk in I only have 20 seconds.

There's some fix ?

[mild gust]

For the hip quest do I need snork hands or snort legs? I cant find the details in my task list

[lethal steeple]

the one above 100%

x in that example is what k_air_resistance is in the .ltx

[lethal patrol]

hands, 8 of em

[mild gust]

fug, those rot these days

[paper rock]

The fridge is a friend

[mild gust]

thats a thing now? maybe i'll buy one then

[paper rock]

It’s very cheap to craft if you have your basic

[lethal steeple]

you also get like 24 irl hours before they go bad

it's extremely forgiving

[mild gust]

ah, too late. already bought for 17k, poverty strikes me again

[graceful quiver]

Just so I can understand it better, does that example correspond to a specific caliber?

[lethal steeple]

fuck should i remember exactly which number equates to 72.6% on the stats mod

[valid crater]

You mean Brain Scorcher? There's only one fix in terms of activating that one mod to have MM and BS disabled.

[graceful quiver]

I'll look in the weapon and ammo chart to see then

[paper rock]

My fucking kingdom for an apo helm

[latent turret]

id make that deal

[graceful quiver]

Hmm, since the calculated a in that example resulted in 40% reduction at 100m, guess that's for the pistol calibers and buckshots then

[mild gust]

I pressed some button and now I have delay whenever performing an action like disassembly and the like, what did I do and how do I revert it?

nvm, figured it out

[brazen dove]

for sidorovitch's dead night quest, there isnt a quest marker for me, any idea where to go?

[novel junco]

West, near the entrance of Cordon-Darkscape

This fixes some quests for this mod and adds quest markers where needed: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/itheon-new-tasks-rebalance

[brazen dove]

is it still in cordon or in the darkscape?

[novel junco]

Obviously in Darkscape

Sid said so

[brazen dove]

i took the quest a while ago

[sonic verge]

wtf just happened

killed 7 so far

i hear 1-2 more

[brazen dove]

I still dont seem to be finding anything even though its 12 am in the night

[novel junco]

Its in a specific spot at the edge of the forest

[novel junco]

I don't remember Gamma looking this flat

[brazen dove]

🙁 cant find it, would you mind pointing me to this specific spot?

been looking all over

[novel junco]

West, not South-West
Whatever, let me boot up the game with the fixed mod

[lethal steeple]

what are you talking about

off the top of my mind most rifle bullets, small and large, are at 0.25 air_res

x54ap has 0.05 air_res

those are the only ones i remember

[cerulean cedar]

Why hasn’t anyone added a underbarrel shotgun to stalker gamma yet or am I blind

[lethal steeple]

5.56 and 5.45 are 0.25

7.62x39 might be different idk

[wheat leaf]

For some reason that quest ends up as a PIN not a marker, and it only shows up when you walk past it.
||The place you gotta go is right near the entrance to Cordon from Dark Scape. Just a bit north along the rocks themselves as it opens up.||
||It's a very not nice task, as well. Don't actually try to do it unless you're prepared to fight a LOT of mutants.||

[brazen dove]

holy shit this was not worth it

[novel junco]

||The mod i linked should balance the amount of zombies spawned to the current outfit you wear||

[lethal steeple]

huh 5.56 and 5.45 no longer have the same air_res that's crazy

still not enough of a difference to call them different items

[wheat leaf]

Does it also fix the tasks in the northern areas sometimes telling you with the arrow on the minimap to go to the literal opposite side of the map and then just disappearing once you get close enough to the edge of the map instead of actually pointing to the marker?

[graceful quiver]

Maybe I misunderstood, but I just calculated the example's x into 0.7986, then plugged it into a for the equation, and the curve arrived at x=100, y=60.

[novel junco]

It currently fixed the "Dead Night" and "Baba Yaga" questline

[wheat leaf]

Alright. Was curious 'cos I know there's some map fuckery that's lingered for quite some time. Like the entrance to Wild Territory from Rostok being way offset from the minimap position so your minimap stays in place until you're past the truck.

[novel junco]

The guy who made the patch came in clutch, it was a long time ago since "New Tasks Addon" was updated and its still unfinished

[lethal steeple]

?????

the thing is that the desmos graph isn't really useful

because gamma doesn't have the stats mod

and the excel sheet veer made has damage loss at 100m out

which is insanely far away

[wheat leaf]

Isn't drop the really only factor that 'matters' between calibers? And even then flatness upgrades can mitigate that a bit, yeah?

[novel junco]

Is it really the air_res that affects bullet drop or bullet speed?

[wheat leaf]

99% of the time if you're firing at any range that actually matters between calibers it doesn't actually matter because the AI just Does Not Interact™.

[graceful quiver]

I mean that's true. The engagement distance shouldn't be more than a few hundred meters max, so I can just look at the table's stats and be content with it.

Was just curious about how things work.

[lethal steeple]

dude gravity is constant

[graceful quiver]

Isn't that only useful for 9x39?

[wheat leaf]

I thought Flatness made them go farther before they started to drop.

[lethal steeple]

they're always falling

[wheat leaf]

I don't pay attention to the card stats between upgrades. Is it just a velocity increase?

[lethal steeple]

flatness upgrades improve bullet speed

and also accuracy by a microscopic amount for some reason

[wheat leaf]

Accuracy is another thing entirely. The difference between 80% and 99% feels so absolutely miniscule that it might as well not matter, but that might just be me.

[lethal steeple]

not a "oh you're more accurate because your bullets go faster" no it's actually reducing dispersion by a tiny amount

[graceful quiver]

Yeah velocity should be what determines flatness since it results in the amount of time the round has to impact the intended target before gravity overcomes it

[lethal steeple]

in what universe

[graceful quiver]

irl afaik

[lethal steeple]

of course

[lethal steeple]

brother 90% of the game takes place at 40m or less

[graceful quiver]

But in game it's fine since that's it's own math

[lethal steeple]

60m out is on the extreme end of the spectrum

there are like 2 lines in the entire game that are 100m long

[hushed pier]

THIS MISSION GIVES THIS MUCH?

[atomic pebble]

FUCK Darkscape

All my homies Dark Hollow

[lethal steeple]

and you're practically fully invisible after 80m

[wheat leaf]

There's only like, two maps that I can think of off the top of the head that even have sightlines that go far enough for you to ever get even CLOSE to a 100m engagement.

[graceful quiver]

And yeah max engagement distance in STALKER is not high

[wheat leaf]

Fuck, most of the time the game doesn't feel like it can even draw 100m out.

[lethal steeple]

???????????

[wheat leaf]

But that's probably fog from various weather effects.

[novel junco]

huh?

[atomic pebble]

?

[lethal steeple]

i swear this guy needs unfit to help

[atomic pebble]

There several maps where u can shoot smth to more of 100m

[lethal steeple]

yeah but a proper line

[wheat leaf]

No, I'm serious. Trees, or hills, or buildings, etc, often block LOS.

[novel junco]

I think you mistake the render distance with STALKER 2

[graceful quiver]

The game also likes to put fog in like it's Silent Hill so yeah

[lethal steeple]

stalker 2 renders shadows at infinite range what the fuck are you even talking about

[wheat leaf]

Unoptimized UE5 Moment.

[lethal steeple]

i mean the sss fog doesn't affect npc aggro

[novel junco]

Were we talking about shadows or A-Life?

[atomic pebble]

let me find smth

[lethal steeple]

if you made the sss fog start at 10m out you'd be getting shot from the fog

[lethal steeple]

literally render distance

????

[graceful quiver]

Hey only you the player matters in this situation since you can't really see without advanced gears anyway

[wheat leaf]

I wonder how much of a strain on the engine it would be to have SSS fog also affect AI.
Just, like, 'fog is rendering at 25m, vision is now 25m'. Like, it seems simple but a-life...

[novel junco]

Okay my guy chill with the question marks, there's a shortage of them

[lethal steeple]

besides all the creepypasta talk about alife and the mysterious and world ending "event bubble" is funny because gamma has a hilariously short respawn clock coupled with an extremely aggressive despawn script, on top of having a smaller than average online radius for alife

and people treat day stalkers like it's the best thing that has ever happened to anomaly modding

[novel junco]

Do they?

[graceful quiver]

That checks out since that's what I've been noticing when I reload

[lethal steeple]

gamma comes out of the box having the same "issues" as stalker 2 and people make it even worse for the sake of "making the zone feel more alive"

[wheat leaf]

Loading a save really does fuck with what the AI is doing. I fee like YACS is around to help mitigate that a bit because if you just fired off quick saves in the middle of combat, loading them would make the AI forget you were there.

[atomic pebble]

The render distance in HoC is great, obviously isn't much "great visually" by optimisation and that but is BIG

[lethal steeple]

i know right

but the game doesn't draw anything past 100m

[celest sparrow]

S2 is so pretty

[wheat leaf]

It's certainly a very long render distance for low geometry at least.

[lethal steeple]

ue5 doesn't have lods

[wheat leaf]

Can you slap on Binos and see stalkers out by the factory in the distance at the middle?

[lethal steeple]

get one right

[graceful quiver]

Probably "industry standard" culling or something

[wheat leaf]

I'm sorry, I don't have a doctorate in literally every fucking game engine ever made like you apparently do.

[lethal steeple]

could you imagine a game without geometry culling

just picture how that would be

[atomic pebble]

I guess that wouldn't be much "stress" but the real stress would be for the one that hipothetically would work on it

[graceful quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-woody-everywhere-toy-toystory-gif-14733284408652833336

[wheat leaf]

Occlusion Culling is something games have done since literally the PS1 era lmao.

[novel junco]

Clearly you're not an "Alpha modder"

(neither am i)

[lethal steeple]

there's a crazy lapse in judgement between being confidently wrong and that

[atomic pebble]

And like, mod the AI for stalker is balltorture for the ones that are newbies

[blissful ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/not-a-sigma-sorry-you-are-not-a-sigma-sorry-you're-not-a-sigma-you-aren't-a-sigma-you-are-not-sigma-gif-337838532227751572

Bazinga rn ^

[novel junco]

It should be the alpha wolf gif

get your shit right

[wheat leaf]

You can see stuff stop being rendered in waves as it gets farther away. The only stuff that's constant is the ground and actual buildings. That looks like low geometry to me. I don't mean LOD I mean like, baked map shit. Trees being entities, buildings being a part of the map file.

[lethal steeple]

it's not hard!!!! people post their edits of xr_danger all the time and call them "HARDCORE AI OVERHAUL"

you have clearly paid no attention to the moddb feed!!!!!!!

[graceful quiver]

Sounds like momo is way too deep in the trenches

[graceful quiver]

If that's the case then I know the feeling well and I don't envy it

[lethal steeple]

my bad g i should've added the /s

[celest sparrow]

muh gamba beter dan sdalger tu

[graceful quiver]

Real gamba vibes

[wheat leaf]

Joke's on you, my stalker has gamba in it. (I use the Lootboxes mod)

[atomic pebble]

U don't understand bro, is the ultimate stalker definitive deluxe remake enhanced improved buffed powerful strongest experience of all the times

[atomic pebble]

My stalker has gamba in it too

[novel junco]

I can count the pixels in this one

[lethal steeple]

oooohhh the crisp on the trees dude i love that shit it brings me back

[celest sparrow]

People like to jerkoff the Gunplay more than anything

[mental furnace]

what modpack is that

[lethal steeple]

also constantly deny the existence of the hitmarker and when they realize it's there, they want to disable it, but as soon as they do, they want to go back

[atomic pebble]

i feel that is more neat visually, idk, i just feel that is more clean

[lethal steeple]

wepl's hit effects carries the shit out of gbo

[mental furnace]

is that default call of Chernobyl ?

[atomic pebble]

Sigmactors Chadject

[mental furnace]

[celest sparrow]

People on their way to talk about how GAMMA is the best Stalker experience then completely ignore Artifacts

[lethal steeple]

what if i added an imgui menu to the recoil mod 2.0 so that editing is even easier to do for the end user

[atomic pebble]

The transmutation of artifacts peakest on AlternativA

[wheat leaf]

As someone who is going through the original stalker games again for nostalgia's sake, I will say that having my guns fire in a shotgun-like cone does make me both wince and chuckle.

[novel junco]

Is there a version of "Perk Based Artefacts" that doesn't force on artifact degradation outside of GAMMA?

[wheat leaf]

Oh, speaking of artifact transmutation, do y'all remember when they added it to Oblivion Lost way back when? You'd drop them into anomalies and then go to sleep and there'd be a new one when you woke up. Maybe. Sometimes it just ate your artifacts.

[celest sparrow]

Oh that'd be interesting to see

[atomic pebble]

In AlternativA u can drop artifacts to x anomalies and other new artifact will born, u can mix artifacts too

[lethal steeple]

it's in the perk based artefacts mcm

just put the degradation slider to 0

[wheat leaf]

Even though you trip over perkifacts so friggin often since every emission makes anomalies shit them out like pinatas but...

[atomic pebble]

The flags on the minimap are artifacts under-ground

[graceful quiver]

The Escape from Tarkov sp experience they could never have

[lethal steeple]

people shit on the doom 3 shotgun get a load of clear sky's shotguns

[wheat leaf]

It hurts so good.

Shit's got a firing cone like you sawed the barrel off to behind the fuckin' shell.

[graceful quiver]

It's like a good hitting slap

[novel junco]

Just how i love it

[graceful quiver]

It makes a nice clap sound

[lethal steeple]

yeah that sound sample on the shotgun is crazy good

goldeneye used the same one for its shotgun

i swear i've heard it in other games too but stalker and goldeneye are the ones that pop into mind

[graceful quiver]

007 Nightfire PC version sounds similar

[wheat leaf]

Lots of shared stock sound libraries being used, yeah.

I swear the ambience of crows in Stalker is the same one they used in LoZOoT.

[graceful quiver]

caw

[haughty stone]

@small ermine Have there been developments on the 'eating the mechanic' bug, or other people experiencing it?

[small ermine]

[steep elm]

the fucking sharpness of this image is cutting into me

[celest sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961687761151221773/1371436905668939836/attachment78789798.gif

[rose musk]

reminds me of that guy I saw post a SS with a UNISG nosorog, spartan helmet and 1 pelt/not even max level kevlar plate on his belt and that was it

[celest sparrow]

peak Stalker right there

[haughty stone]

#╓☢stalker-chat message

[steep elm]

holy fucking shit

that's so funny

[wheat leaf]

I mean my current save I have a Duty EXO, Apocalypse helm, tier 3 nogs, tier 3 PDA, Veles detector, max rank plate... and then no good artifacts to use with it so I'm just using a pseudogiant pelt.

[atomic pebble]

what's has of bad

[celest sparrow]

Oh, I think I vaguely remember something similar being mentioned before

[rose musk]

okay but like, you probably have a soul or some other perkifact on right

[steep elm]

what

[rose musk]

not just zero artis

[celest sparrow]

Dry tried to replicate it with no success

[wheat leaf]

Not equipped. I'm waiting til I have spares beyond the first fully repaired one and I don't like using perkifacts. (I use The Collector mod so I want 99% artifacts for the collection first.)

[atomic pebble]

there smth wrong with the sharpness of my screenshot or no

[steep elm]

It's all about personal preference

smile

[atomic pebble]

[wheat leaf]

The OG stalker trilogy was a special brand of Crispy™.

[haughty stone]

It happened to me again today and it occurred to me that:

perhaps the property of stashboxes to be picked up by holding F gets erroneously attributed to a NPC's inventory (or the NPC itself), because I did press F to close the trade menu and my game often freezes for a little bit.
@small ermine

[graceful quiver]

You think holding F glitched into triggering loot all?

[wheat leaf]

Well I mean... I don't think the bandit mechanic is quite coded the same way that Sid and Barman are.

[haughty stone]

I only pressed it, but game stuttered at the same time

[graceful quiver]

Though wonder why it also despawns the actor too

[wheat leaf]

For those who aren't in the know;
Sid is a chest that has dialogue.
Barman is also a chest but he can move around.

[haughty stone]

It has happened to the Duty tech too

[celest sparrow]

Possibly, it was what I previously thought but we were still unable to replicate it

[wheat leaf]

Strange that it would delete the NPC too though and not just 'loot them'.

Unless the 'hand pickup animation' part is somehow considering the NPC themselves as 'loot'.

And it's like, coded to delete the 3d world model after looting?

I don't actually know how it's coded, I'm just spitballing.

[celest sparrow]

Not even sure if we should be concerned about this, Interaction Dot Marks is no longer the default so I guess it should be reported to Catspaw

[wheat leaf]

"Catspaw help somehow your mod turned my stalker into a cannibal"

[graceful quiver]

Maybe it's only the actor that got despawned but the object node is still there like furniture?

[lethal steeple]

barkeep is a proper npc

the only furniture npcs are sidorovich and forester

[quasi python]

just started an ironman merc run and the game instantly through a pseudogiant at dead city spawn

[wheat leaf]

Oh? Huh. I musta misunderstood when someone mentioned that Barman was made after Sid was and was more advanced.

[celest sparrow]

yeah that happens

[wheat leaf]

Typical Merc L.

[cedar comet]

GAMMA moment (xps 3 wont work for this gun)

[graceful quiver]

Not the same mount apparently lol

[quasi python]

well i killed it furry boy

[gaunt agate]

That's the wrong eotech sight

I dont even know which guns have that one as an option

[quasi python]

its so nice to see mercs using things other than shotguns

time to go farm duty at rostok

[wheat leaf]

Lots of guns are missing attachments that SHOULD make sense. It's not as simple as just changing the .ltx. You gotta add the specific sight to the gun and export it as its own model from Blender, then make it a functioning weapon the game can call to in the files by adding it as its own alternative version in the base gun's file, not to mention making sure the attachment lines up on the icon in the inventory, and just...

[graceful quiver]

[gaunt agate]

Well that eotech in particular was added recently

I think it's for the MDR or one of the recent weapon additions

[cedar comet]

It's insane that they already had an eotech it's just black lmao

I GOTTA HAVE THE TAN ONE TOO

[wheat leaf]

b-b-but muh desert camo m4

[cedar comet]

NO I WONT MAKE IT WORK WITH ALL THE GUNS

[graceful quiver]

Look you never know when the Zone might just turn an area into a barren wasteland mkay?!

[atomic pebble]

there another one like that in CS

that unintentionally is "cut-content" by that

[quasi python]

i wish u the best of luck on your endeavors to obtain the tan

[cedar comet]

Guaranteed this tan piece of shit is going to rot in my stash until I find one of the 5 endgame guns it was made for

[wheat leaf]

10 bucks says 4 out of the 5 guns are all M4 variants.

[atomic pebble]

eee

[steep elm]

I love your name

[atomic pebble]

technically barman exists +- before of sidorovich

[graceful quiver]

Sidorovich: Barman 2.0

[atomic pebble]

i don't remember how was the thingi but there a "lost-media barman" of 2003

[wheat leaf]

Did they go back to Barman after finishing Sid up, then?

[atomic pebble]

I don't remember exactly, i just remember that the OG Barman and Sidorovich was created +- at the same time

[cedar bramble]

i prefer less guns but polished ie. if they have picatinny, let them have all the scopes with picatinny rail, also 3dss. I kinda abhor soviet guns that have akm pattern rail.

[wheat leaf]

Also hang me for this if you must, but in my personal opinion, OKP-7 > every EOTech.

[cedar bramble]

next gamma should make all guns with picatinny to be able to have picatinny scope, unless the rail is too short to make the fit

[wheat leaf]

Dovetail Mount. Usually only seen on Soviet Era guns afaik? The Picatinny Rail has become more or less a global standard to make sights and stuff easier to produce for all guns.

[wheat leaf]

That would be 'simple', insofar as the mechanics behind it, but someone would have to go through and manually put every sight on every gun and export them as unique models to import into the game with unique coding in the .ltx files of the base gun. It's not HARD, it's just a LOT of work.

[cedar bramble]

dovetail is more like on rimfire rifles of european origin, it's a different type of rail. Also it would be cool if we got scopes with adapter for the soviet side rail.

[cedar comet]

They're adding 10 more eotech scopes that don't go on most guns for this post . You will not go unpunished

[wheat leaf]

I know they make picatinny adapters for dovetail mounts, but I can't expect that to be a thing here.

It would easily double the amount of 'guns' in the game as far as coding is involved.

And item bloat is already a huge issue.

[atomic pebble]

The OG barman was +- like this:

[wheat leaf]

He looks more youthful and hopeful. Poor Barman... what did you see to make you as you are now?

[cedar comet]

That's not hope he's drunk

[wheat leaf]

Liquid Hope™.

[graceful quiver]

Courage and hope are codependent after all~

[quasi python]

1st merc looted. apoco helm

[cedar bramble]

you can have separate definitions for scopes and weapons, and i remember that it works by some kind of vector diplsacement to show the scope in correct place, so its separate mesh. it could be done, but it would definitely increase workload.

[cedar comet]

That icon....I think I'm gunna be sick

[quasi python]

and its got a green barrel

[quasi python]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-pathetic-principal-skinner-gif-13486077408184960752

[wheat leaf]

The way it's handled in-engine is every gun with an attachment on it is its own separate gun the game calls to when equipped. If it wasn't for some black magic that the modders who do stuff for ANOMALY have done, the debug weapon lists would be absolutely HAMMERED with 500 copies of the same gun but with this sight, or this sight, or this sight AND a silencer, or... etc.

I remember a time back on 0.8.something where that was the case.

wpn_glock, wpn_glock_silencer, wpn_glock_eotech, etc.

They all exist like that in the code, but the attachment system we use is smart enough to exclude them from the debug list and only shows the base guns.

[cedar bramble]

yes, but now its not the case, and if there are a person like the author of BaS someone dedicated, it could be done. But that would make WP kinda OP if they can also have western optics, the western optics would need then picatinny dovetail conversion lol to have russian scopes.

WP weapons should be truthful to real life and they should have almost double the MOA accuracy

[wheat leaf]

To be fair, I have used a PU scope in real life. They're not super comfortable to use. Being able to slap an adapter onto your Kechov mount so that you can use a SUSAT or something like that is a small price to pay for better sight picture.

[cedar bramble]

like AK74 vs HK416, 5-6moa vs 2 moa, AR-15 3 moa etc.

[cedar comet]

Honestly if you throw a bunch of t*rkov shit into stalker you deserve it

May the modders spend 1000 hours making sure 50 different snowflake scopes all work

[lethal steeple]

i didn't know

[wheat leaf]

17 scopes that are all literally the same but this one is red.

Tarkov Moment

[cedar comet]

https://media.tenor.com/xqis9MJleM4AAAAM/memri-tv.gif

[wheat leaf]

I wish I was kidding but in Tarkov there's a fucking gas tube for the M4 that is bright red and it's one of the most saught after items in the player marketplace.

You barely see the damn thing, you just get a little bit of red between the body and the stock of your M4.

[steep elm]

lmao that's stupid af

[cedar bramble]

its cool to have choice, and that scopes should progress with better stalkers having better loot and something better

like eotech obscure half of your vision, but something more open is better. Of course IRL these two operate on different principles, better astigmatism and parallax correction etc.

so its not a clear choice like that

[wheat leaf]

I will always say that the fashion side of gun ownership/manufacturing was a mistake.
Guns should work, end of story. You don't need to have your shit be fucking hot pink.

[celest sparrow]

me when "It's cool to have choice" but then "Progression"

You can't have both

[wheat leaf]

Sure you can! You just don't get choice until you progress.

[lethal steeple]

99% of what i know about clear sky's development cycle comes from concept art

[wheat leaf]

tbf that's probably GSC's stance on it too

Clear Sky feels like it was such a mess during development.

[cedar comet]

Counterpoint:

[cedar bramble]

you have choice at a given level and then progress to better levels, just like a poor person choose between different car tiers vs the rich person.

[lethal steeple]

the other 1% are the cut isg intro cutscene and the fact that jupiter underground was made for that game and not cop

[wheat leaf]

This gives me the same vibes as those stupid red dot holo sights with like, middle fingers instead of just the dot.

[lethal steeple]

it was only like 10 months in the oven tho it was infinitely more controlled than what happened with soc

which was like 8 years in development hell

[celest sparrow]

Then why give the illusion of choice when it's going to be limited by progression

[wheat leaf]

Wasn't it originally going to be made for consoles? And they shitfed like, 3 different engines or some shit? Kept being 'almost ready for launch' and then moved the goalposts. I dunno. There's so much hidden lore about SHoC's devlopment.

[cedar bramble]

Because you cant afford it? Because you dont have goodwill? Because you cant take on stalkers with exo that will drop them?

[wheat leaf]

Lost Alpha is an interesting thing to me but I also know it took a ton of creative liberties.

[celest sparrow]

as if Rank dictates which scope they can drop

[lethal steeple]

no

[cedar bramble]

yes the loot tables are tied to rank and faction

[celest sparrow]

Yeah but not the scopes

[lethal steeple]

soc did have an xbox port in the works but that was after the fact and it got scrapped very early on

a build of it surfaced a few years ago

[wheat leaf]

iirc rank does dictate the chance a gun will come with attachments in the loot tables.

[celest sparrow]

You can have Guns drop with scopes but you can't dictate which scope it drops

[atomic pebble]

U can have both in VESSEL

[lethal steeple]

not exactly

[cedar bramble]

i dont know that for sure, but i feel like the better stalkers dropped better stuff.

[wheat leaf]

There's percentage chances in the loot tables that are like '1 attachment, 2 attachments' etc and they have their own percentages.

[cedar comet]

GAMMA be like "I'm going to add a new gun to the game that 2 people will use but I would never ever EVER write a new quest that everyone in the game has to do to progress"

[wheat leaf]

Though I think that rank is the rank of the stalker, not the rank of the player.

[atomic pebble]

GSC developed Marsh for 6 months

and just Marsh

[cedar bramble]

yes its rank of the stalker you killed

they also get better reflexes/aim

[atomic pebble]

It needed more time, it deserved be released in 2009.

[celest sparrow]

Yeah as there's some loadouts that are setup to have a chance to drop with attachments

but it isn't entirely true

[atomic pebble]

CS also had a early-early attempt of port to xbox

[wheat leaf]

Guh. I can't decide if I wanna pick up GAMMA, continue playing OG SHoC, or get my headset on and play ITR2.

[celest sparrow]

I can imagine people being a lot more kind to SoC if it came out for the Xbox

[lethal steeple]

if it came out during its original release window instead of being delayed like 4 years

[wheat leaf]

I just got an AKs-74u with a dope OPK-7 with a sight magnifier setup.

[lethal steeple]

nah but the game wasn't ready like at all when they were saying that alife could finish the game instead of you

[atomic pebble]

The ideal reality for the first release of S.T.A.L.K.E.R is being released in 2006

[celest sparrow]

dude it would have been mogged by the Wii

[lethal steeple]

the marketing for soc was beyond ludicrous yet people choose to make fun of todd howard for the "see that mountain? you can climb it" line

16 times the detail
vs
ai so intelligent and competent it's even capable of completing the same storyline you're trying to do if you slack on the job

[cedar bramble]

so clear sky and duty will now be enemies

[celest sparrow]

with no way to revert it

thanks Grok

very modular

[cedar bramble]

we should end up with every faction being enemy to every other faction, trader overhaul, quest overhaul to accomodate that, could be cool mode.

[wheat leaf]

Bro did not just ask for a fuckin' Battle Royale mode.

[graceful quiver]

I remember seeing a promo shot of all the stalker and mutant models gathering around a campfire and having a toast at the time

[atomic pebble]

In 2003 GSC did a design document of Oblivion Lost for Xbox, where the protagonist is a monolithian or smth.
In 2006 GSC planned "S.T.A.L.K.E.R PSP", potentially a reinvention of SoC (and yes, Hospital it's inspired on the images of Stalker PSP).
And +- between the development of Stalker 2, GSC tried to port Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear Sky to xbox 360.
GSC planned release Stalker 2 for Xbox 360 and PS3 (they even added x code of these platforms to X-Ray 2.0).
And the thingis for Legend of The Zone started in 2021-2022, where SoC and CoP was ported to a X-Ray 1.6 Engine in X64.

[lethal steeple]

stalker on the psp would've been insane dude that thing doesn't even have 2 sticks

[wheat leaf]

I remember playing a CoD game for the PSP and the face buttons were the camera controls.

It was so awkward to play.

[lethal steeple]

hey it's modular you can just revert it for the patch it was introduced in and not after that because 12 mods were added that depend on it being enabled

gotta get a reason to add a patch for 0.9.5 saves

(it just autocompletes the talk to barkeep part of living legend if you're clear sky)

[atomic pebble]

Well, GSC tried to port SoC to xbox in 2007-2008 but x

I feel that this screenshot is from that port to xbox or from a unfinished build/patch (from the 28 of december of 2008):

[lethal steeple]

damn i read boat instead of boar

that would be crazy

robbing uncle sam but it's strelok and wolf instead of cj and ryder

[atomic pebble]

To 2008 some GSC employees planned the 1.1

Inspired on AMK, some GSCbros planned developed a bit the 1.1 that would add a freeplay mode with a bit more of content.
The "bigbro" of the 1.1 said smth about release it as a official mod or smth

Video about the cancelled 1.1 for SoC
https://youtu.be/TLNLE7cq1hc

[celest sparrow]

que dice ahi, no se ingles

[lethal steeple]

no se ingles
que dice ahi

the one fucking time the autodub should've worked

[atomic pebble]

Analisis de la version freeplay de S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl | Nuevas armas y armaduras

[lethal steeple]

si pero lo que dice el narrador del video amigo

le entendi "freeplay" entremedio

[celest sparrow]

Freeplay SoC

Kill this Boar
Kill this Boar, but now in Dark Valley
Kill the Military
Kill the Military, but now in Dark Valley

[lethal steeple]

y los closed captions estan en ruso

[lethal steeple]

so immersive,,,,,,,, it's golden,,,,,,,,,,,

i kneel to the roleplay gods,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[lethal steeple]

today i learned that loxotron is also behind lost alpha

that's actually insane

[fair remnant]

Aye is there a command for a lil guide on installing c-con grass?

I dont dare try to do it myself because i'll probably break something

[lethal steeple]

imagine having literal robin fucking hood on your team

[celest sparrow]

ctrl + m

that's all

[atomic pebble]

Loxotron was a "key dev" in the development until 2015 or smth

[atomic pebble]

Well

without loxotron S2 Old Concept wouldn't exists either

[lethal steeple]

nothing would've been documented if it wasn't for that guy

[atomic pebble]

https://youtu.be/-mP096s8vWM

[lethal steeple]

to this day i believe that all the builds being leaked was an inside job

i wholeheartedly believe that loxotron was a gsc employee

[atomic pebble]

Several builds was published by GSC prior to the release of SoC too

[novel junco]

Its a secret ending because it is absolute ass

[lethal steeple]

ye i know but still like most of the leaked builds were posted by loxotron or loxotron under a burner alias

[novel junco]

Gmod shitposters can make better animations and cinematics

[lethal steeple]

like i don't think 1935 would've been made public if almost the entirety of soc's development cycle wasn't already leaked to the public

[atomic pebble]

Remember that Dezowawe Team wanted release that in steam

[celest sparrow]

Bro really used the force to kill Sin

[lethal steeple]

dude i so want that electric spark particle effect

it took me 3 minutes to realize the guy is speaking english

[atomic pebble]

https://youtu.be/nAPSPqrtezs

[celest sparrow]

oh it no longer is mumble rap

[lethal steeple]

no longer a viper music video

dude the villain sounds so sassy

what's his deal

[unkempt comet]

Tmm we pay our respects to the creator of stalker

[solid minnow]

Well I guess I'll just rot here.

[runic olive]

can npcs walk/path thru player placed walls?

[steep elm]

It wouldn't surprise me if they can

[celest sparrow]

They can't walk past

[atomic pebble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BcRTR1WBhk

[fallen stone]

guys how do I get to CNPP generators (north) for the end of military quest?

[blissful ivy]

theres this neat arrow that points up, and its a transition point to CNPP north

its really easy to spot at the top left of CNPP south

[fallen stone]

you mean this one? I think I tried it last time and it just takes you inside like you're doing the final quest but backwards

[blissful ivy]

it does not do that

it puts you close to it

but not there

[thick sedge]

is the AN94 2-burst in this game insanely fast

I've just got it

a pka-1 like scope would fit this gun, maybe someone has tried it and could recommend?

[barren cobalt]

bro how how do you get that

are there extendo arms

nvm i glitched myself inside and im gonna fast travel out

[crisp turret]

don't try to loot that stash

you will die to the fireball anomaly

[thick sedge]

lmao did you fast travel the campfire inside the cordon house

looks like it's not cordon

[crisp turret]

this is dead city

[thick sedge]

what about the AW toilet stash in the bloodsucker village

where is it

not even inside the shit hole, not even in the tree branches above the roof

[crisp turret]

you can loot that one you have to crouch and crawl button

this one is impossible if you do it no cheating way

if you climbed on top of the house and dropped in the chimney

you cant get out and die to the anomaly

[thick sedge]

I didn't try hard enough then

funny I have to scrape an unused outdoor toilet

[crisp turret]

i think when you can be on top of looting object your guy has more reach

while its on the side its impossible to reach

[fallen stone]

are u sure man? I'll check it tomorrow but i'm pretty sure that aint it

[blissful ivy]

thats nice, im sure it is

[proper drum]

just find a pixel, it's lootable

[barren cobalt]

you can go up the ladder and jump down into it

then just fast travel out

[proper drum]

after loosing ironman run on 13h to this stash I have learnt the ways, cheesing is not chad

[barren cobalt]

is it cheesing when your body can fit through the massive

hole

but you can only crouch and go crouch 2.0 as a "prone"

[proper drum]

well what i mean is that you can loot this stash without being killed by the fireball, no need for santa moves and teleportation

imagine random dogs comes close and you die due to inability to teleport from there

[tight quiver]

wtf is that??

I shit myself when I saw it come out of the cave

[steep elm]

impending doom

[graceful quiver]

Looks like some kind of abominable dance troupe lol

Oh right, what's the maximum squad size you can have?

[tight quiver]

not sure? seems like just 1?

[tight quiver]

it was...

there was 5 of them total

one was a mini giant thingy

and one was the mega giant

I think I just killed a whole family

[last mesa]

I dont think clearsky should be considered as enemy to duty

🥀

Duty prob even think they are too small to be at war with

💔

I mean gameplay wise it's some thing

[gray vapor]

We are talking lore wise tho.

But i don't they should be enemies since Clear Sky itself is mostly focused on their scientific goals i think?

At least that's how i remembered it since Clear Sky itself.

[last mesa]

Lore wise duty has nothing to be against clearsky

[gray vapor]

Mhm

[latent turret]

lore wise duty only exists to be the enemy of freedom and vice versa

[last mesa]

Nor clearsky want to any troubles

But sure the higher up in clearsky are considered skechty

Well considered they are confirmed to be a part of C founder

In stalker 2

But i doubt duty know in anomoly parody or in triology

[gray vapor]

That was confirmed before Stalker 2 tho aswell.

[last mesa]

I cant recall that

I rather call its a theory before s2

[gray vapor]

I mean since those days lebedev is dead. (As when they took strelok down in Clear Sky)

And we got

big kaboom

getting the story of SoC

[gray vapor]

Suit yourself.

[celest sparrow]

It was not even a theory

it was confirmed in CoP with Lebedev having a connection with the group as seen with a photo of him in Lab X-8

[gray vapor]

Also guys question. I seen people playing on some new engine i think? Not the AO one

Hell is that thing

and what it tastes like

[celest sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1445642460779909211

"This project focuses on modernizing the engine's memory management and threading model to support heavy modpacks like G.A.M.M.A. without the traditional "Out of Memory" crashes or severe stuttering experienced during extended play sessions."

It's pretty much multithreading

[gray vapor]

So basically AO but bit worse what i see from comments

[celest sparrow]

it doesn't compare to the optimization done by AOE, but it's still rather nice to see

[rose musk]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[gray vapor]

I might give it a try since i was doing chef work of slapping additional mods

[gray vapor]

Seems normal to me (Says the the insane person who uses light mode for 3 years)

[rose musk]

can see the shine of the pearly gates all around the screen

[gray vapor]

But gawd dayum those 37 fps are hitting hard

[lavish lynx]

Mfw no monolith spawn leaving BS

[last mesa]

may my recall is wrong anyways

but hey anomoly thing is never considered cannon so

clearsky themself can be against entire zone even

https://tenor.com/view/lux-lyxocx-seal-mischievous-smirk-gif-8266549212389467758

[naive haven]

Yo you guys know a way to install many mods at once in m2m

I'm gonna be redownloading gamma later

And I don't want to install 1 mod at a time

[last mesa]

This is the funniest, saddest thing I’ve ever seen on YT

[pallid galleon]

Has anyone seen a good Tavor/TAR-21/X95 mod?

[thin orchid]

juan has one

[pallid galleon]

odds are good it hasn't gotten a 3DSS patch though right?

[thin orchid]

athi made one i think

let me check

[last mesa]

pretty sure the github are still on

[thin orchid]

yeah he did
https://github.com/andtheherois/3DSS-for-JUAN-s-Guns

[pallid galleon]

based

[gaunt agate]

Surprisingly no

[pallid galleon]

I'm just so tired of AUG, MDR, and i haven't seen the FAMAS drop once

[gaunt agate]

Famas isn't in drops I don't think

[thin orchid]

bullpup enjoyer 😔

[gaunt agate]

I've litteraly never seen it either

[pallid galleon]

I need a gun with no rail-space

[thin orchid]

athi has famas mod

[naive haven]

Mm? I ment like extras

Like gun mods

[last mesa]

oh.

[naive haven]

I normally add a shit ton

[last mesa]

nah you still have to download each

[pallid galleon]

and always delete uni_anim_core.script yeah?

[last mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/lux-lyxocx-seal-mischievous-smirk-gif-8266549212389467758

or least make your own extra modpack

[naive haven]

Yeah ik

Dowg I've been in this server for a year

I know about the unjam crash

[pallid galleon]

Was asking for myself but okay

ooo, it doesn't like that, lol

[thick sedge]

lmao?

[lavish lynx]

RPK 16.

Nice.

Finding a mint RPK 16 with a 95 round mag

[graceful quiver]

[marsh bridge]

dude
i did a quest for a stalker where he wanted a can of corn so i give it to him and he gives me a stash where theres 4 cans of corn in it

[lethal patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-brainwormism-gif-3108294868786947348

[hollow wadi]

Give a man a can of corn
You'll be corned

[last mesa]

Such a corny comment

[novel sierra]

Hey Guys.
Best gun in each Ammo Caliber?
So Far I'm running AK 74 PMC and SVDS.

[lethal steeple]

they're all the same at the end of the day, if anything, just compare their fire rates and their reload speeds

the svd family is one of the only gun families to have actual differences between them

[celest sparrow]

ask ChatGPT

[lethal steeple]

like you have the absolute dogshit slow firing svd

then you have the one that fires fast but it's still bad

then you have the pmc

which fires fast but also has a rail

[near estuary]

man why can't it be at least 120 RPM or something

[graceful quiver]

Teach the man how to make canned corn
The Zone will be corned

[celest sparrow]

"Bad cause common for Type D" or some shit like that
.- Grok

[near estuary]

[lethal steeple]

0 days without finding a need for gun progression to be split up into more tiers

[near estuary]

would that really fix anything?

[celest sparrow]

No

[lethal steeple]

no but also yes

but moreso no

[near estuary]

[lethal steeple]

guns will still feel redundant as fuck

but the slow svd would feel kinda better being in a lower tier than the good svd

while also not being in the same tier as the sv98

for example

[celest sparrow]

I have an idea of how to change it up but I will have people cry I killed off variety so

[near estuary]

do tell

[graceful quiver]

Oh nice

[lethal steeple]

it's just cutting off the weapons that are actually just clojnes

[graceful quiver]

Now just need to find better parts for it

[lethal steeple]

which is like 80% of gamma's arsenal

everyone with a functioning brain has said this a lot of times

[celest sparrow]

yeah cutting off weapons that are clones to be placed into Nimble as a way to have some sort of weapon upgrade after brain scorcher

[lethal steeple]

doing that instantly fixes gamma's awful gun progression

[near estuary]

considering a good part of the playerbase are gun fetishists, yeah... that won't go over very well

[celest sparrow]

Nimble is pretty underutilized and a pretty decent midlepoint for Type C and Type D weapons

[lethal steeple]

yeah so the only way to make progression not feel awkward as all hell but want to keep the 5982342897 5.56 assault rifles that have <1% stat variations

you split the progression tiers into more

[graceful quiver]

Or you might have to artificially limit your own progression, but that takes a lot of restraint

[lethal steeple]

i mean yeah?

but "just don't interact with it" isn't justification for bad game design

that's the point

one gives critique in regards to how gamma is as a package out of the box

[graceful quiver]

Of course. Inorganic hacks don't fix anything.

[rose musk]

a-z gun tiers when

[graceful quiver]

Best is you have fun with yourself and be content but that's about it.

[celest sparrow]

Type D just doesn't feel special when it takes a considerable amount of time to acquire Expert Tools and 2/3s of the Game Progression is done in the South

[rose musk]

yeah I don't think i've even dabbled with d tier weps outside of the AMB and the LMG's one time for fun

usually any C tier rifle with a sight and a UBGL is solid enough for the whole thing

[lethal steeple]

5/6s i'd argue

6/7 if you will

[celest sparrow]

Reason why I want to add """Tactical""" variants to Nimble as a way to avoid having another Gun Tier that requires Repairing which could still potentially skip Type C weapons in terms of Progression

[lethal steeple]

imho all the guns with the cringo ass "nicknames" (yes the quotation marks are a pun) should be nimble exchanges

[graceful quiver]

Too much bread and butter in C tier

[lethal steeple]

like why the fuck is the frasier for example a non unique

[celest sparrow]

You get to see the base variants of Weapons getting a lot more use, and you'll get a rather minor (but good feeling) upgrade once you are done with the gauntlet that is the Brain Scorcher

[graceful quiver]

Yeah maybe custom special guns should be D instead

[celest sparrow]

Either that or awfully rare drops

[thick sedge]

how many psi % should I have for yantar lab, entering the gate even; I have orange ssp and helmet though

[lethal steeple]

do you have the psyhelm

[thick sedge]

yes I d

o

[lethal steeple]

then just go into the dungeon dude

[celest sparrow]

Like I'd like to assign some unicorn weapons to be exclusive to certain Factions such as it is the case of the AK105 Swamp Thing being obtainable from Master / Legend Clear Sky

[lethal steeple]

if you see ghosts, run through them

[rose musk]

just rip a psyblock you'll be fine

[lethal steeple]

also that

[thick sedge]

what happens if I don't run thru them

[lethal steeple]

psyblock and then epipen to get rid of the dizzy state

[rose musk]

oof ouch owie brain hurty

[graceful quiver]

Also they are the only ones with most/all/special attachment and upgrade options unlike the base/lower tier variants

[lethal steeple]

you take psy damage if the ghosts hit you

[thick sedge]

oof ow my brain

[lethal steeple]

but they move so fast (and so do you) that you can just run through them and not take damage

at one point they used to move so fast you could WALK through them

and not take damage

[celest sparrow]

It is funny Grok talked about revamping how Upgrades work so you can obtain Weapon Variants if you go for certain upgrades

as if that will ever happen

[rose musk]

I like the funny part when you get 5 of them flying around you and they start making a beat

[rose musk]

what if we added ANOTHER .001% chance for your gun to jam at 100% instead

[thick sedge]

I was about to ask if shooting them would do

[rose musk]

and blew up rostok in the process

[rose musk]

just makes them dissapear

[celest sparrow]

just shoot it once

[lethal steeple]

no i would never ever add weapon parts and blueprints to gamma that's retarded and too gamey

[celest sparrow]

player gets mortar striked when trying to approach rostok

also loner is now enemy of Duty

[thick sedge]

thank you for the insight

[celest sparrow]

It's only a good idea if Grok says it

[thick sedge]

because I got 4 fucking stashes inside the yantar gates

might as well go labs

[lethal steeple]

innumerable such cases

[hollow wadi]

Add another 100

[lethal steeple]

next thing you know the vision has always been to make clear sky's story mode to be impossible to complete as this would be more respectful to the lore, clear sky as a faction should be gone for good by the time anomaly takes place

[rose musk]

lol, hahaha, just kill every member of duty bro barkeep is a loner haha

and other such things people love to type

[celest sparrow]

the lore reason given can't possibly be worse than the UN prohibiting gun trade in the zone

watch me eat my words in 2 years

[rose musk]

groks reasoning really was just "I think it should be this way cause I hate rostok" and everyone clapped at the decision

[thick sedge]

should there be alligators in great swams

[pallid mountain]

yes

[lethal steeple]

honestly the "lore reason" grok gave in the announcements post is fine

[celest sparrow]

"I don't like how people play my modpack so I will now make Heavy Armor be recipe only + a 2% chance drop"

[lethal steeple]

like people (myself included) look way too deep into it to see how it's wrong or isn't

[thick sedge]

swamps? no gators? ... gamma 1.0 NOW

[rose musk]

sure but we all know the reason he even had to type that bullshit up was because he fucking hates that rostok is the meta place to put a base

[graceful quiver]

Goddamn politicians are going to doom us all I swear!

[celest sparrow]

why even look for a lore reason when Clear Sky should be gone

[lethal steeple]

clear sky as a non government affiliated established faction can't be working for freedom in the eyes of duty, it's either you're with us or against us

[graceful quiver]

Can't even have fucking coffee around here

[celest sparrow]

why even try to respect lore when we have Sin and ISG

remove them as well

[lethal steeple]

why not the ecologists then? because they're a government affiliated faction, as in they're backed by the military

[rose musk]

why are people basing in a mostly safe area that has like 2 mutant spawns (which can still just walk past the guards when you load a save inside rostok and kill you)

[lethal steeple]

why not the loners then? the loners aren't an established faction

[thick sedge]

the meta base™ moment

I actually wanna reside the trailer near Barrier

[rose musk]

all getting rid of rostok would do for most runs is just add 5mins of travel time to get to your base through TC

Extending the time you spend in the hobo phase even longer

[celest sparrow]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dead-zone-great-swamps-v10 simply add this no more clear sky

[lethal steeple]

16:42 Message
You are littering a place for public reunion and your loitering is aggravating the locals.

16:42 Message
Your reputation has worsened.

16:42 Message
Duty and Stalkers faction have declared war on each other.

[thick sedge]

clar sky when they don't rebuild after cnpp failure

[graceful quiver]

"It's the will of the Zone..."

the will of the zone:

[analog palm]

All things considered duty would probably be unfriendly to loners

Not hostile, just unfriendly

Kinda like in lost alpha(I think), you need to earn trust before you can go to duty part of rostok

[celest sparrow]

it'd be cool if you had to earn access to Rostok

[warped oasis]

Isn't that how it worked in soc or am I remembering wrong

[celest sparrow]

but then you'll have people ask "how to disable having to do task for rostok access" so i shoot them 54 times

[graceful quiver]

Duty recruits nothing but the best, not just some randos

Saving the world and its innocents is hard work

[lethal steeple]

they actually do recruit anyone

anna lost her father to a chimera and they let her in (tw: anomaly modding lore)

[graceful quiver]

JOIN DUTY WE NEED MORE MANPOWER TO STORM THE CNPP

[thick sedge]

a guest pass

only 48 hours or you get booted and/or shooted

[graceful quiver]

How about honorary member?

[lethal steeple]

you know if caca was to ever happen i think i'd add the "no littering in rostok" thing

but juan broke up with me,,,,,,,,,,,,

[marsh bridge]

perhaps a spray can item that allows you to switch your weapon to a "witerawwy cwone!!!" version?

[normal river]

MONOLITH HEELYS

[celest sparrow]

Monodrip

[last mesa]

The true swamp

The true and honest lore cannon swamp in stalker

[neon berry]

Oops, thought I was in newbies chat.. My bad.

[lavish delta]

my gaaahd! i just need one more basic toolkit, but all the boxes are giving me either e med tool kit or gunsmithing kit

[hollow wadi]

Surely you got enough vodka to shove in Spirit's hands

[mental furnace]

always stash 80 nemiroffs incase of emergency

[hollow wadi]

You joke but I've got 90 in Jupiter

"eh maybe I'll visit Spirit"

[mental furnace]

not joke

[graceful quiver]

Slowly building up my Nemiroffs stash as well

[lavish delta]

also, im confused which gun to use .... i made the type c weapon tool kit, now i dont know which weapons im going to use

one for mutants, one for humans .... but which ones ...

[mortal wadi]

anyone use arrival?

[runic olive]

is there a method to the madness for the "bat" artefact?

can it produce t4s?

like volat?

[hollow wadi]

!sheet

[dawn marten]

@runic olive Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[hollow wadi]

Check out that everything sheet

[runic olive]

dope

[hollow wadi]

You're allowed to put Glock Hornet in your melee slot for 9x19HP spam

But really, get your hands on MP7 and put the T1 thermal vision sight on it
Shit dominates Monolith

Goes in melee too

Got me a P90 recently too, will check that too

[runic olive]

so my bat is only making an empty into a ring

unless its somehow failed 4 times in a row

after about 15 tries or so its only giving ring

the spreadsheet seems to confuse me

[north gale]

it's pre seeded

the artifacts you have are pre determined to have a specific interaction with bat

or well

maybe with that particular bat

idk if different bats produce different effects

[lavish delta]

using theese for now

uhhh, sidrovic asked me to kill a guy and loot him for an artefact. when i reached there the guy was already dead and interacting with him shows "Found nothing useful"

[hollow wadi]

!debug // Save, then enable debug, load save, look at corpse, F7 > Trade All

[dawn marten]

@lavish delta How to enable debug mode: #╭📖faq message

[mental furnace]

its pure GAMBA

[lavish delta]

To be double sure. the steps
i save
then i enable debug pressing f7
then i load the last save
i loot
i save
exit the game
disable debug

[hollow wadi]

You save, exit, enable debug, load in, loot, save, exit, disable

[lavish delta]

done

[buoyant vapor]

CS-3B vs Hybrid Armored...which one should I pick for doing BS ? I know I could just look at the stats sheet but like which one would be more fun....is the 3B worth it given that you don't get extra carry weight like the hybrid armored suit but it has pretty good rupture and explosive resistance

[lavish lynx]

Explosive and rupture isnt really an issue in BS.

Bullet protection and ballistics is though.

But take it from me

I had a Monolith Exosuit and still got shredded once or twice. (Finally beat it though) and on my playthrough once you kill all of them, you can just walk right out

[dense agate]

Weight over all tbh, at BS you are probably not tanking many hits anyway. You’ll want that juicy monolith loot, it’ll be some of the best gear you’ve looted thus far

Bring a pack too, you’ll almost certainly have 2 inventories worth of gear by the end. Dump all your looted stuff before you go into the bunker itself so you’re not fat while you fight in and out of there

[north gale]

is it really? One time I tried it with a bat and the same artifact like 10 times and every single time it produced the same result

[lavish lynx]

Bring some Hercules with you.

Try to make sure your own guns have reduced weight.

And only take guns with good barrels unless you have one you need parts for.

[north gale]

with the exact same percentage on the resulting artifact

[mental furnace]

99% of bat gamblers quit before hitting full empty

[north gale]

lol

[mental furnace]

other 1% realize they need to do that 2 more times

[north gale]

it's only a matter of time till grok makes rostok hostile to everyone

and then after only duty is left neutral to itself

he will bomb it and turn it into a mutant lair

and then bomb it some more and replace the entire thing with a giant darkness anomaly

shaped like

🖕

[mental furnace]

make it freedom base and move duty to cement factory in jupiter

[north gale]

HOC really fucked over Duty bruh

[warm verge]

https://tenor.com/view/yawn-boar-pig-hog-summer-gif-10546652396781305870

yeah

[loud sluice]

Is there an install guide for linux and is it playable, I've been looking at switching to linux on my main machine and wonder if I have to sacrifice gamma...

[warm verge]

https://tenor.com/view/poltergeist-stalker-2-mutant-stalker-2-mutant-stalker-poltergeist-gif-5545261897779512996

[celest sparrow]

!linux

[dawn marten]

@loud sluice
For any and all support regarding Linux GAMMA installation and issues, go here ➡️ https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1315449108797980762 ⬅️

[north gale]

then he'd have to make loners hostile to freedom

and clear sky also hostile to freedom

[mental furnace]

[north gale]

like i said it's only a matter of time till he drops a nuke on rostok out of hatred on game start hat can be seen from anywhere in the zone and then an announcement plays saying a giant darkness anomaly spawned there and it's untraversable or something

and there's a colossal middlefinger shaped darkness if you are facing towards rostok

[dense agate]

Duty and freedom both have large issues so far as their lore and gameplay actions don’t really link up, only made worse by the strange mélange of timelines etc in Anomaly/Gamma

[crisp turret]

what happens to them ?

[celest sparrow]

they get removed

[crisp turret]

so no clear sky nothing ?

whats the lore reason

[celest sparrow]

did you ever play clear sky

[dense agate]

Where were you when clear sky was kill?

No

[crisp turret]

the game or the faction

[celest sparrow]

the game

[crisp turret]

ye so in this mod everybody from CS gets brainwashed

and they just sit in the swamp ?

like the 1st ending ?

[celest sparrow]

No

They are just gone

It's not like Clear Sky went back to the Swamps after the events of Clear Sky, they were either killed or brainwashed

[ashen stag]

how it should be.

i hate clear sky

[celest sparrow]

only a few survived such as Nimble and Novikov

[crisp turret]

hm this makes more sense than making CS enemy to Duty

[ashen stag]

i love rushing the clear sky base as literally any faction

[atomic pebble]

fuck CS brat

Sunrise must be the replacement

[jagged musk]

Tbf clear sky, sin amd unisg are dead or scrapped factions...

Same w renegades

[ashen stag]

RENEGADE NUMERO UNO ☝️

[jagged musk]

Worse bandits w better gear and no traders... ripe to delete

[ashen stag]

who needs that anyway

[atomic pebble]

Freedom deserve a better base than Poopbar

[ashen stag]

real ones just rely on corpses

all these wimps “waaaa i need trader level 28829 for this eotech!”

renegades just mass murder for what they want

[jagged musk]

Ye, easiest way to piss off everyone in the zone and get murked by them

[ashen stag]

no politics, no ideology. just guns and murder.

no “oh is this dude an enemy?? or friend???”

nah renegades just shoot bro

[mental furnace]

like army warehouses? or dead city like in some build

[ashen stag]

renegades arent organized tho. you cant pin them down

[atomic pebble]

yes, these two places are a better base and levels than bar, Duty just deserve poop like Bar and Freedom deserve good places

[jagged musk]

You don't need to be organized to people hire some headhunters to track you down and fuck you up

[dense agate]

Freedom and duty swapping main bases makes more sense, I know AW was Sin base but sheeesh. Big fumble by GSC

How are the hippie freedom losers the ones actually containing the Zone, meanwhile the alleged fasherino paramilitary faction is chilling in the middle of the lesser Zone shaking down loners and generally doing nothing

Neither faction’s actions match their lore at all

[atomic pebble]

Would be cool have a base on Radar where Sin will be located

[dense agate]

What could have been…

I know the implementation of Sin in certain mods has been divisive at best but I generally think they are very, very interesting and generally make the narrative move from pretty standard FPS to something really engaging

[atomic pebble]

Tho, "the barrier" don't existed while Sin was a thingi.

[steel burrow]

Is there a random chance that sometimes an enemy of your faction sometimes doesn't bother fighting you?

I'm as Military and I'm sitting next to a loner chilling by the fire lol

in the Duty base mind you

[celest sparrow]

there's neutrality with Military in Rostok

[steel burrow]

alright

[lavish delta]

its time to move bases

1. Is the rostok a better choice as a base or the army warehouse?
2. What are the ways i can take all the stuffs with me to the new base?

[celest sparrow]

yeah Rostok is better in general
you can use God Mode, or you can pick everything up then Guide Travel, place down a container and empty out

[hushed pier]

why dont i see the laser on wall on this gun

[ashen stag]

rostok sucks because duty suck

[dense agate]

I wouldn’t bother with a base move from somewhere in the south to another southern location. Save yourself the trouble and just move your base to zaton/jupiter/etc

Be a gigachad and make a base at Radar maybe

[lavish delta]

hold L

oh nvm

maybe.... a mimic wall like in dark souls

[analog palm]

wasnt it new dawn?

i forgor

from SGM mod

[atomic pebble]

oooohhh, yes

Dawn and Hunters are "CS-sequels" in some mods

[analog palm]

should replay that sometime

[scenic trench]

... where in radar exactly?

[dense agate]

Directly at the entrance to brain scorcher of course

Jokes aside there’s a little duty hut thing atop the big fence, right at the base of the hill to the bunker

[scenic trench]

you mean also where mono loves to hang out?

[dense agate]

Yeah

Lock in stalker, what, you want a cool base location for free?

[mental furnace]

ez

changes faction to monolith

[dense agate]

I don’t mind a little scrap to get home, gets the blood flowing

Also adds a real purpose to the defensive stuff like mines

[mental furnace]

just wood plank whole place and u will be fine

[dense agate]

That’s no fun

[mental furnace]

[paper rock]

has anyone come up with any kind of consistent way to do x18?

im so tired of the second floor

[lethal steeple]

is that the dark valley one

[paper rock]

yes

more than anything its the controller i can't deal with

[mild wing]

yeah the controller is the only thing that can't be solved with firepower

otherwise just camp the staircase with with something like a KS23 or a .45 smg

[lethal steeple]

just wait for the guy to go up the stairs

it sucks but it's the only solution

maybe throw a grenade down the flight of stairs to clear him a few seconds earlier

[paper rock]

does setting the IED to proxy go off on mutants?

[mild wing]

could work too

but i'd be afraid of a random bloodsucker running into it first

while you're on top of it

the blast can go through the walls

[paper rock]

the blood sucker rushes in and dies while your going down the stairs

ill take my chances surviving an explosion

follow up while im thinking about it is the IED a physics object that the polters will throw

[mild wing]

[paper rock]

i fucking hate 18

[mild wing]

a burer did me like that once

[lethal steeple]

just camp the staircase

treat it as a minute long loadint screen

[paper rock]

does psy resist decrease the range he starts making you eat the gun?

i doubt it right

[mild wing]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-i-dont-know-ill-tell-you-bye-gif-12776382

[lethal steeple]

yes

[mild wing]

my protocol is to haul ass every time i get the piss tint on my screen

never cared to test it

good to know

[lethal steeple]

also the time it takes for you to die in the range

[paper rock]

ill go grab the blood sucker hide

[lethal steeple]

you're worrying way too much tbh

[trail vault]

a wholesome mod idea: playing guitar/harmonica at the campfire increases the campfire's healing effect by I dunno, 3 times maybe, during the song

[lethal steeple]

just camp the stairs and wait for the guy to be on an actual line of sight

[paper rock]

fine

ill stop being mr "im scared of going to bs without a full exo"

[mild wing]

also, pre-pop the psyblock

that should make the phantoms a non-issue

[mortal wadi]

Anyone knows how to disable those info msgs that i get, like " i just saw a duty guy knifing a controler"

[royal ferry]

Am i the only one that found only (almost) batterie artyfacts ?