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blissful ivy
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i dont know man

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SoC played better than CS gameplay wise

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which isnt much

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since CS played like a blender running linux

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anyways

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yeah

SoC = Radiophobia 3

CS = shit, just play vanilla with SRP i guess

CoP = Gunslinger (burers suck, but theyre not that bad i guess)

ashen fox
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I liked the introduction of warfare/control zone mode but it was like some early game testing of concept in CS so you can forget about it after Swamps. And in the end the A-Life is enough to make zone dynamic without fights over zones.

blissful ivy
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a life isnt in CS, at least not really

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CoP is the introduction of the A-Life people suck the dick of

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CS was just "NPC go here, where enemy is, fight enemy"

ashen fox
blissful ivy
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then that repeats on both factions, until they either win or lose

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its in all 3

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but its extremely limited

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in SoC

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and limited in CS

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and CoP has the more open A-life that travels

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where you can find a squad from 1 place in another, with less people as more of the squad gets killed

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or more people if they picked up people

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or the same mutant you took shots at ages ago you find limping later

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CoP was neat

stiff wyvern
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some military guy just dropped a shak kit included

blissful ivy
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you need to own CoP for Gunslinger @ashen fox

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just to lyk

stiff wyvern
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100k saved lol

blissful ivy
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you dont need it for Radiophobia

blissful ivy
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the shakal kit?

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or the SUP for shak

stiff wyvern
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shak with an installed kit

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the laser one for 100k

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SHaK

blissful ivy
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oh lame

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for the shitcan ash12

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gotcha

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i mean shakal and shak suck

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so like, i dont know why i asked

stiff wyvern
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i mean, for cnpp the weapon is good, but thats about it imo

hushed pier
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WTF is this gunrack

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all guns floating

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too close to wall?

rich moss
hushed pier
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yes fixed it

rich moss
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why do you have

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two workbenches

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ontop of eachother

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😭

hushed pier
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ayy we don

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talk about that

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secrect teq

analog palm
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probably just to reduce open/close times

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ammo parts go in one, other stuff in other

hushed pier
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looks better now

rich moss
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but hey, thats just me liking stuff that looks well- neat i guess

hushed pier
rich moss
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the two workbenches ontop of eachother just isnt something id do, feel free to do whatever u want tho

hushed pier
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where u at rostok?

rich moss
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and no, i tend to have places everywhere- I try to make a place in each map so i have spots i can sleep at

hushed pier
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since i have 16 snork hands i should be able to get two hips

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am i rite guys

cobalt glade
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you should, but you cannot, literally unplayable

hushed pier
rich moss
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u didnt have to lol

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it looks nice though

proven raptor
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where is the cuck chair though

hushed pier
blissful ivy
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id take a PKP over it anyday

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id even take a gah damn G36K

last mesa
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You can't aim so that makes sense

blissful ivy
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bitch youre here once a week at best

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shut your deadbeat dad ass up

manic granite
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Iss he wrong though?

blissful ivy
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yes hes wrong

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i can aim

manic granite
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Not well enough apparently

blissful ivy
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how so?

manic granite
blissful ivy
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i just dont like the ash 12

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shit just sucks

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id sooner use barrikada

manic granite
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Nah it's great

blissful ivy
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because it feels better

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its mid

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CQC .338

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dont care

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anyways, shak is sad

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imo mid

blissful ivy
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its terrifying

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i dont like it

hushed pier
blissful ivy
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anyways, i hate it so much

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like bro even i managed to keep enough space in my room

manic granite
blissful ivy
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wait how is there a ramp there?

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ive never seen that

manic granite
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I made it

river parcel
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the shak is good but only because of the ragdolls

manic granite
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Make sure to either save beforehand or enable god like i did when building the ramp, it gets a bit launchy

blissful ivy
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gotcha

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its neat tho

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cool stuff

manic granite
blissful ivy
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newbies is worse than here somehow

blissful ivy
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id rather jump each time

last mesa
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I love watching drama

blissful ivy
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also the timer is egregious

blissful ivy
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as merc

manic granite
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I like this truck, it's cozy

blissful ivy
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some things have changed since this image

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but this is basically it

manic granite
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Very nice

blissful ivy
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also ignore the dead guy in the fridge, he didnt fit inside

manic granite
river parcel
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whatcha got there

last mesa
blissful ivy
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:D

proven raptor
blissful ivy
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hes the meat for my lasang

blissful ivy
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merc base

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in the "prison cell"

proven raptor
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ohh i see

blissful ivy
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even tho i just live here, and kill whoever enters

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i said stay out, these fuckers dont get it

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so i shank em when they try to raid my fridge

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fuck em

sonic verge
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Guys I think I actually have to quit Gamma and other mod packs with cigarettes in them now that I'm quitting, it's wayyy too tempting.

hushed pier
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I LIKE THIS GUN COVERING MY SCREEN

sonic verge
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Can I toggle off the cool animations for smoking?

manic granite
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Just don't smoke

blissful ivy
proven raptor
river parcel
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what in the cannon is that

sonic verge
blissful ivy
sonic verge
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If you could I would literally worship you

river parcel
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the answer is simple, replace smoking habit with alcoholism

sonic verge
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I might also be becoming alcoholic

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I can't socialize without it

manic granite
sonic verge
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I need to become Buddhist monk, I need to abstain from intoxicants.

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they cloud the mind

proven raptor
river parcel
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once you become an alcoholic you can switch it back to smoking and try calling it a benefit again

sonic verge
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Typical gamma fan isn't old enough to drink but pretends they drink vodka regularly

sonic verge
hushed pier
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how can i reduce fog

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in this game

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cant see shit

river parcel
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you just have to gaslight yourself and it'll all be fine

hushed pier
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always fog

sonic verge
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The fog consumes Ries

hushed pier
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i have maximum render distance

last mesa
dawn martenBOT
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@hushed pier To make fog obstruct less of your vision perform the following steps:

1.) Remove your Newcomer Role by going into #⏩start-confirm
2.) Download the most recent version of Less Dense Fog addon from #1355286570952950032
3.) Open Mod Organizer 2 and press CTRL+M
4.) Select the Less Dense Fog archive
5.) Install the addon, place it at the bottom of your modlist, and enable it
6.) Launch the game

hushed pier
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but useeless

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not very fun

river parcel
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you can do it

sonic verge
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I am absolutely not a problem solver I'm a problem avoider 😂

river parcel
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if you can't see the problem it's solved

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you're already on the right track

sonic verge
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You know what, I will think about what you've said when I smoke my next cigarette on car ride home

hushed pier
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i can actually see more than 3 meters infront of me

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new game

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ur a godsend

proven raptor
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angled grips look so weird

rocky flume
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Is there a cfg or something I could easily tweak to make the furniture lamps last longer (or forever?)

blissful ivy
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i prefer the weight to be above my hand, not beside

analog palm
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their main and pretty much only use is on belt fed machineguns where a normal grip position would be obscured by belt box

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on anything else it just makes no sense

rocky flume
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Bren LMG:

analog palm
harsh sandal
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Time to hunt some mutants boys

blissful ivy
harsh sandal
blissful ivy
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unless you have one of those that dont bend

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then yeah, angle grip it is

rocky flume
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It's not supposed to bend

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Might want to see a doctor about that

analog palm
blissful ivy
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the most significant one is the MG42's

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it could

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but im pretty sure there are others

rocky flume
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Was not asking 😂

blissful ivy
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and theres always the Soldier Solution™

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which is just make some random shit that works

blissful ivy
hushed pier
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OMG game just deleted unisig norsorog cuz of scavegeing skill

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blueballed

rocky flume
blissful ivy
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ooooff

rocky flume
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Kill that motherfucker again and hit "loot all" faster than light

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You'll get it eventually

blissful ivy
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i dont savescum anymore, but damn do i wish i did sometimes

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good thing the nosorog despawn chance is really small

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on 0.9.3.1

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its 15% iirc

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so its not a big deal

analog palm
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i just dont use nosorogs

blissful ivy
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dotmarks breaks the scav perk tho

analog palm
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exoskeletons are for pussies

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MUSCLE PWOER!

blissful ivy
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which is dumb

hushed pier
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This guy

blissful ivy
rocky flume
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Exoskeletons are for when you don't have 60000 hours to waste playing like it's ironman when it isn't

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Also I like loot, I need my carry weight

hushed pier
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i am playing one life

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shit loudout rn but its what i got

analog palm
last mesa
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!scavenging yes

dawn martenBOT
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If your Scavenging skill level is too low, items have a chance to despawn from the bodies you loot:

  • Nosorog exoskeletons (85%)
  • Cz-M10 Spartan helmets (50%)
  • other items except weapons and armor (0.25-4%)
    To avoid the despawn your Scavenging skill has to be level 17 or higher.

Additionally, in order to loot an outfit or a helmet from a body a certain rank value is required. The requirement is almost negligible, rank value as small as 7000 is enough to meet a rank requirement for any equipment.

analog palm
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but uh yea

blissful ivy
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because F1 used to be 100% despawn

analog palm
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i just use heavy armor

blissful ivy
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its not on the list anymore

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because it was changed

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goobershade over here

sick yoke
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Nah

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Despawn has been 85% for nosorogs

last mesa
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Which it also was in 0.9.1

sick yoke
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It hasn’t changed for nosorogs

blissful ivy
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i swear it was lower

last mesa
blissful ivy
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fuck

last mesa
blissful ivy
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but the list was changed

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so im still right

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fuck you mapleshade

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get off your high horse

last mesa
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You're not peepoLove

blissful ivy
sick yoke
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You’re not though

last mesa
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No one was talking about f1 grenades

blissful ivy
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because it did change

last mesa
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Be careful you might overdose on copium

sick yoke
ripe lagoon
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yeah it always was 85% to despawn

rocky flume
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You're wrong omegakekw gottem

blissful ivy
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but i was still right about one thing

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list is different now

sick yoke
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Ok pirate software

blissful ivy
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ok thats funny

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i dont really care that much, but i swear they despawned less before

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also wasnt there a patch for dotmarks to fix scav?

last mesa
dawn martenBOT
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@blissful ivy
Update your GAMMA snigyes

blissful ivy
blissful ivy
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not my fault the new update sucks ass

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guess i can work around that 15% drop chance

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its whatever

sick yoke
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The dotmarks thing is just that scav doesn’t level up

blissful ivy
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therefore 15% chance for it to drop and stay

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i guess the drop chance is always the same, but the despawn chance is what changes

harsh sandal
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huh

last mesa
harsh sandal
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HUH

harsh sandal
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when did I get this

blissful ivy
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is the dotmarks patch a mod in MO2?

harsh sandal
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I think so

blissful ivy
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because if it is, couldnt i just like, get it from someone?

harsh sandal
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wait what type of dotmark?

sick yoke
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Idk

ripe lagoon
blissful ivy
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idk

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i dont hate 4, i just didnt have more reasons

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2 reasons really

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those 2

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mods mainly, suppressor jam nerf bugs me because its stupid and dumb, and probably easy to fix

sick yoke
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First person I’ve seen complain about the suppressor jam and not the innate chance

smoky latch
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Can't wait to get back into gamma after i receive a new laptop soon

blissful ivy
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well the inate chance has a patch doesnt it?

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or was that something else

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i swear they released one to fix the jam above 80% part condition (i think it was 80%)

last mesa
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70

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Very necessary

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My almost full condition supressed AEK jammed every 10 rounds

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Peak game design

blissful ivy
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yeah see?

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that fix is a thing

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which makes inate jam a thing on like 5 or something weapons

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so thats fine, but suppressors have a debuff, and i think its goofy

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i mean, if they wanted to nerf suppressors, they could have just... removed the buffs

harsh sandal
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End of day 2

blissful ivy
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bandits fear this man

harsh sandal
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It's not like I'm allowed to use anything else

last mesa
harsh sandal
blissful ivy
last mesa
harsh sandal
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Invictussyy

ripe lagoon
blissful ivy
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still a toz tho

last mesa
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Need an invictus thread at least 😭

harsh sandal
blissful ivy
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the 7% damage thing is dumb anyways

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i dont get it

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tbh suppressors make no sense in general in gamma

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they give buffs somehow for things that they shouldnt

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not my modpack tho

last mesa
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GAMMA makes no sense in general

blissful ivy
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thats true

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i just mean from a design perspective, the jam rework is just not it

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imo

last mesa
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Can still ask about mutant arena even though removed

harsh sandal
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Very funny craft

blissful ivy
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i already covered the "muh realism" perspective, but that dont matter

small ermine
last mesa
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Like full condition weapons jamming frequently????

blissful ivy
harsh sandal
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I'm surprised this bug is still here

blissful ivy
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and the suppressor one isnt much better

blissful ivy
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but it does make some sense to make suppressors have a downside, i just dont think this is the best way

last mesa
harsh sandal
blissful ivy
harsh sandal
blissful ivy
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wouldnt it be better to just fix stealth as best you can?

harsh sandal
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When

last mesa
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Too much effort, need to unbalance things instead clueless

small ermine
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It would be alot easier to just remove stealth

harsh sandal
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fixing a broken shiit vs adding an easy shiit

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Your choice

blissful ivy
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adding easy shit, then adds the need to balance easy shit

ripe lagoon
blissful ivy
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i guess

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ok then

small ermine
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Stealth was an added broken mechanic

blissful ivy
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thats fair, but the suppressor buff still seems dumb imo

last mesa
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Many things are shrug

blissful ivy
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stealth no work, make suppressor better because ohno

harsh sandal
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Real

hushed pier
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What does the upgraded spas look like

small ermine
harsh sandal
small ermine
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But groks tries to use the
It's realistic
And the gamma Is not realistic at the same time

harsh sandal
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Always has been

blissful ivy
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which usually you get full powder burn unless the barrel is short

small ermine
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Yeah that's why I said super niche

blissful ivy
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only the SIG 552 commando would really benefit, and thats like 1

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i know its niche im just adding on

small ermine
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But it's applied universally

blissful ivy
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it applies very rarely

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and yep

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its applied universally

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you summed it up perfect

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good job armor man

small ermine
green shale
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for the record, this is because the dialogue tree/text for the arena barfights are completely unmodified in gamma at this point

hushed pier
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finally

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expert tools

north knot
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What mod gives the exo skeletons hand visuals no white gloves like THAP?

blissful ivy
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can you try to clarify that?

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i had a stroke trying to read that

hushed pier
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wait didnt ecologist sell batterys

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for exos

blissful ivy
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i dont think suckmeoff sells them

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because hes a "medic trader" basically

hushed pier
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i think cuz level supply 1

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fk leveling ecologist

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ill pay the premium

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renegade exos give you 103% movment speed

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never seen that on any other regular exo

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and 5 slots

hushed pier
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VERy noice

harsh heath
north knot
hushed pier
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This is how it should've beeen

blissful ivy
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i dont know why they called it a "conversion"

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they could have just made it 5.45 and not elaborated

blissful ivy
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that was it

hushed pier
blissful ivy
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theres a reason every 9x39 has 30 or less rounds

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because 60 would be a weapon to surpass metal gear or something

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balancing i guess?

hushed pier
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ayy it does not change the dmg atleast with artigrok i did it for the pen

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only the multiplier tho

blissful ivy
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i dont remember

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go look

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idk

hushed pier
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no its 50

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val 70

blissful ivy
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im not tryna check it myself

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oh, well i mean its still busted

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you have 3x cap

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and more damage

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and more AP

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9x39 has better multiplier than 5.45

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last i looked

hushed pier
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i mean the amb17 still better

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which i have too

blissful ivy
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2x cap makes that better

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im gonna be honest

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id rather the storm in 9x39 over the AMB

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amb is nice, but 60 rounds of high damage is better than 30 of higher damage

hushed pier
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in most cases yea

blissful ivy
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all cases*

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no most

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all

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you can kill more with that 60 than that 30

hushed pier
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U can kill faster, more efficent bullets, less recoil, just reload behind cover

dark ridge
hushed pier
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why tf cant i hear footsteps

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i keep dying to rats

blissful ivy
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its just 1 or 2 round difference

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so like, it still shreds as well

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and you get 2x mag cap

mild wing
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does explosion resistance even work? i was on 75% and the RPG rocket that landed next to me got me down to 10% hp anyways FeelsCatMan

hushed pier
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yeh i am begning to think resitances are fake

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got shot in the ass by a rat and died so fast with 70%

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half a second

mild wing
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ballistics are a whole other can of worms

green shale
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yes they work

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resistances for the player are remarkably consistent

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bullet damage dealt by the player to npcs is the thing that's a can of worms

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bullet damage recieved by the player? straightforward

mild wing
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so was the 75% just not enough to make a difference?

green shale
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that plus hitzone combination? possible

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note that gamma's body health system has multiple mercy systems in play that gives you oneshot protection, as well as redirecting multiple consecutive hits to the head/torso to do limb damage instead of head/torso damage (since that instakills you if it gets low)

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but i don't think it reduces the actual hitpoint dmg those shots deal, and headshots to the player both deal more damage, and the head is typically less armored b/c helmets tend to have lower ballistic res

mild wing
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that's the sad part, could've worn a redline jacket, get health gated and get the same result kekl

hushed pier
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so 70% bullet res gets me half a second of reaction time

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bro the human reaction is 1 sec

green shale
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oh also it matters if you're getting shot with high-damage bullet + gun combos

hushed pier
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lowkey

mild wing
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it's not that bad unless you get sprayed point blank

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i'm just specifically disappointed about the explosion res

hushed pier
mild wing
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the random lack of sfx is one of the bigger problems this game has right now

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not even sure if it's gamma specific or just base anomaly

hushed pier
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i got 86% explo restiance and i can try it out for u

mild wing
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but i see a lot of people complaining about this

hushed pier
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backstabbers

mild wing
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all kinds of entities randomly deciding they don't consent to being heard by the player clueless

ripe lagoon
mild wing
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they used to, i remember being baited by them a lot

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but i think he's just calling some sneaky stalker NPC a rat

hushed pier
ripe lagoon
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right
well actual rodents don't have step sounds anymore

hushed pier
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Maybe that stalker was classed as a rodent cuz he acts like one

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henceforth i couldnt hear him

sick yoke
mild wing
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i guess i'm not looking at this stat ever again

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not sacrificing a belt slot because i might get hit by a grenade

hushed pier
mild wing
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i had a burer skin + sponge at that time

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took it specifically because of the barrier defence quest

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80% br and 75% explosive

hushed pier
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You know i cant chill until i got that 90% br

soft folioBOT
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💱 97,233 RUB (Russian Ruble) :flag_ru: is equal to 1,208.77 USD (United States Dollar) :flag_us:

prisma crag
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Lmao

blissful ivy
prisma crag
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Why not

blissful ivy
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i question why

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?

prisma crag
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And yall aint getting context either

blissful ivy
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fuck you

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stinky alcohol workshop guy

prisma crag
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Anyway, if you use bm mod(kinda gae if you do) guns are quite cheap in reality

blissful ivy
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yeah 1200 dollars

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theres the context

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thanks

prisma crag
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Not the context but that works

blissful ivy
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i mean, it sure seems like it

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they cost that much

prisma crag
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Nah it was the amount of money I had in game

blissful ivy
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oh

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broke ass

restive wyvern
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once i find expert tools its over

prisma crag
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Nice!

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I also need expert tools for one lmao

stuck zephyr
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oh boy do I regret opening reddit today

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first post I see on the stalker subreddit... wHy dO PeOPLe enJOy MAkInG tHe GaEM SO HARDCORE

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there ought to be a disclaimer that if it takes you longer than 5 irl hours to get basic tools then you are the issue

prisma crag
prisma crag
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Anyway imma gamble using interactive PDA mod

prisma crag
stuck zephyr
prisma crag
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slot machine

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oh shit I found an AK-74M venom off military in cordon

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I had to blow up some APC's there

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Good barrel too

reef iris
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Is there a way to modify the day length? I wanna make it 6 hours. 3 hours day and 3 hours night

stuck zephyr
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as in irl hours?

prisma crag
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I feel the day night cycle is pretty long as it is

stuck zephyr
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also, why is the night objectively better once you got NVGs?

prisma crag
scenic trench
prisma crag
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I mean ive currently got an SG 550

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eh

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its worse

ashen fox
oblique reef
normal island
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I do understand these discussions

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Considering how many GAMMA players go around saying it is the "definitive STALKER experience" and shit like that

prisma crag
ashen fox
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Plus the Gamma isn't that "hard", It's just overwhelming with item blob and other things when you don't bother to learn mechanics.

small basalt
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i found out theres a loot only anomaly detector. is there also a loot only PDA?

prisma crag
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invictus as well

ashen fox
stuck zephyr
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and so I sound like a boomer as usual, MISERY was considerably harder imo

jovial pebble
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which is the best spawn for monolith

prisma crag
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A good amount harder

stuck zephyr
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the fucking Jupiter plant would put the fear of god into anyone

blissful ivy
blissful ivy
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itd br funny

scenic trench
blissful ivy
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since the russian hardcore is literally 99% ballistic res is nothing, 100% or nothing

prisma crag
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lmao

stuck zephyr
blissful ivy
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i dont care for them

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but yeah you got a point

stuck zephyr
#

but as I wrote earlier as well, both sides of the retard barricade are dumb

scenic trench
stuck zephyr
#

the people that dont get the point that some people like harder/extreme experiences

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and then the people that praise GAMMA as the end all be all of STALKER

blissful ivy
#

i mean theres definitely a "too hardcore" experience, and vice versa

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but gamma isnt it

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its not hardcore enough for the nerds

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and not easy enough for the ultra babby goobers

green shale
#

too hardcore is the custom edits that geologist made where the psyhelmet takes 30 in game days to be ready

blissful ivy
stuck zephyr
green shale
#

and costs like fucking 300k or something. probably more

green shale
#

go full xcvb suite on it so that it takes you several ingame weeks to fix a single weapon

normal island
#

I mean is that really that far from the stuff that other people ask/do?

stuck zephyr
#

gonna spend actual 30 irl days just grinding the money

green shale
blissful ivy
green shale
#

it's just that the term "hardcore" and "immersive" and "realistic" are completely worthless when it comes to describing what people say they want out of gamma/stalker

normal island
#

Like NVGs being purposely dogshit because it's "realistic and immersive"

green shale
#

half the time people just come asking for mods for a "more hardcore/realistic/immersive playthrough" and they actually just mean "i want a gun pack"

stuck zephyr
#

I like stuff to be immersive and challenging but I also value my time

#

there can be some abstraction

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irl is rough enough as it is

green shale
#

what the fuck does "immersive" even mean

stuck zephyr
normal island
#

I'm still asking myself and people that

green shale
#

you may as well replace it with "good" or "shit i like"

normal island
#

And no one can give me a description that makes sense

green shale
#

for all the good it does, undefined, when people just ask for realism in a game

normal island
#

Atleast not according to what immersion ACTUALLY means outside of the videogame sphere

ashen fox
green shale
#

believable in what context? this is why i always joke that a true immersive radiation mod is something everyone would fucking hate

blissful ivy
#

but now its just a buzzword

#

idk

normal island
green shale
#

true immersive rads = rad bar is invisible, only goes up, cannot be reduced except by ending the game (to represent you leaving the zone for years of anti-radiation treatments)

normal island
#

I don't care if that's how NVGs look in real life they look like dogshit and i'm playing a videogame

green shale
#

etc. etc.

stuck zephyr
reef iris
green shale
#

yeah but everyone accepts some level of abstraction to make shit bearable

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and the thing is that your personal line of what is and isn't acceptable abstraction, will differ wildly from someone else's

normal island
#

I feel like "immersion" is inherently incompatible with sci-fi settings like STALKER's

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Personally

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Because what you decide "makes sense" or "isn't a contradiction" is EXTREMELY subjective

stuck zephyr
green shale
#

(if i get full pretentious, the word that the "immersion" people are looking for is "verisimilitude", a sense of consistent "reality" within the bounds of the fictional world)

oblique reef
#

Need more goofy sci Fi shit in the game

green shale
#

i want more guns that shoot fragments of artefacts really

normal island
#

you gonna melt their brains with them fancy lad words

oblique reef
#

Artigrok should be even wackier

reef iris
#

Is there a way to modify the in day length to be longer?

normal island
stuck zephyr
#

well always good to see that cynicism will always prevail around here, in the end its what keeps the game ticking

normal island
#

Don't remember the specific menu tho

reef iris
#

Wooohhh, can you point me in the right direction? I cant find it for the life of me

reef iris
reef iris
normal island
#

I mean i'm not trying to by cynic just that I genuinely don't understand what people mean when they talk about "immersion"

green shale
#

don't get me wrong i am a "make gamma more difficult" advocate

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and i make mods to make it happen

normal island
#

Because more often than not it's used interchangeably with "realistic" which is not the same thing is it

radiant sage
#

Absolutely not no

green shale
#

but also i fully acknowledge that a proper balls to the walls arcade reinterpretation of stalker anomaly would rule

stuck zephyr
#

I mean I get it since mostly when this discussion comes up someone has unreasonable demands

radiant sage
#

A game can be immersive and unrealistic

normal island
green shale
stuck zephyr
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for me, my mentality with GAMMA, shit should be hard and things should not be easy to obtain, but if you put in the effor to get high level gear and artifacts it should be justifiable that you are almost a god

green shale
green shale
stuck zephyr
#

I get paranoid if any weapon part falls bellow 90%

green shale
#

ah, no, that's not quite how that mod works

#

read the top post, i tried to be thorough

stuck zephyr
#

yeah, ok, the cap part I didnt notice on first skim

#

would be balanced

#

but general gun durability would have to go up a bit then

#

cause then it would be the same shit as stalker 2

#

you use the gun for 2 fights, and then it costs your entire bank to repair it

reef iris
#

I still can't find the menu to make the days longer. Anyone know where it is or a mod for it?

green shale
#

the rate of wear is not as high as i would like

stuck zephyr
#

eh, to me it feels more inconsistent than anything else

normal island
#

I was wrong, apparently all you can do is make the moon cycle longer and edit how frequent weather settings are, I gaslit myself skull4k

stuck zephyr
#

at times I feel like i clear out multiple squads, barely lose a few % and then a few mutant fights later I have 2 parts at 75%

reef iris
celest sparrow
green shale
#

yeah you should be losing part % WAY more than that

#

in my perfect world

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we just couldn't find a way to do it

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the state of wpo's scripts in gamma is miserable according to Serious and i'm inclined to believe him

celest sparrow
#

It doesn't help that it's so easy to keep it above 90% in Base GAMMA

normal island
stuck zephyr
#

sure but AK's get double durability over everything else then KekSkew

normal island
#

Or does that not work with WPO

green shale
normal island
#

Mb broski I don't play this mid

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Nor do I use WPO on my list

green shale
#

i haaate it

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i hate the fact that it revolves around probabilistic part degradation per shot rather than a steady amount loss per shot

normal island
#

Just make a new mod

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That isn't WPO

#

Should be easy considering he is currently working on the story rewrite and upgrade remake, no?

celest sparrow
#

If the value between 0 - 1000 is lower than the result of the equation, it will take damage

#

That's genuinely retarded

normal island
#

Ni que fuera tú bro

green shale
#

that's a fairly standard way to represent probability/"dice roll" mechanics for things to trigger

stuck zephyr
green shale
#

but i think that is a horrible way to handle weapon condition

#

(now probability based jam chance, i have no problem with)

prisma crag
#

OOH EXPERT TOOLS

#

I can finally start to repair the AWSM

proper drum
#

hey, anyone recall the name of new dots mod and tutorial mod?

oblique reef
#

New Player Experience and Catspaw Dotmarks iirc

proper drum
#

hero

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ty

oblique reef
#

At least that's my assumption KekSkew

celest sparrow
proper drum
#

updated gamma coz rumors said jam and sounds somewhat fixed

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brand new mp5 with 0.27% jam stuck 3 times at 7 shots kekw

celest sparrow
#

It's not "fixed"

#

An optional mod was added to revert the changes to innate gun jam chance

proper drum
#

or doomstack of boars appears in your back by roaring from 0.5 meters

#

hmm

#

ok i'm fine with jam

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but sounds what makes me killed most of the times

#

i know you can disable this but i have an aim to learn and adapt

#

and to make 094 speedrun on default gamma

fallen atlas
#

God

DAMNIT

... Never got busy hands
Guess it had to happen once

#

And it corrupted all the saves Wahh

proper drum
#

can it?

fallen atlas
#

Apparently yes

proper drum
#

once all my saves were corrupt coz i spawned 200+ tushkanos and my cpu said gtfo

#

no save ever worked, i couldn't leave the location

prisma crag
#

huh disabling cpu 0 and 1 actually did increase FPS

#

it also forced gamma to use my X3D CCD

proper drum
#

i gave up and use [forbidden mod] coz after last update my fps dropped twice kekw

fallen atlas
#

ah fuck
It was caused by Tactical Compass

prisma crag
#

Well my FPS was fine already

#

steady 180

unreal orchid
#

hm was there a recent updaye or smth?

stuck zephyr
#

I am starting to regret putting my late game base in the yanov basement

prisma crag
#

Lmao

proper drum
prisma crag
#

Just do it

#

no balls

stuck zephyr
#

I mean, DM it to me if its that bad

normal island
prisma crag
unreal orchid
#

It’s the hands

#

Hand*

normal island
#

It has a cock

unreal orchid
#

Looks like it’s a dick 🤣

normal island
#

Bloodsucker bricked up on a monday afternoon

prisma crag
lusty gate
stuck zephyr
#

for being 5.45 this thing surprisingly hits hard

green shale
celest sparrow
green shale
#

i think probability-based "chance for part to degrade" is awful compared to "part degrades by fixed amount per shot"

#

even if the "fixed amount per shot" might be a nonlinear curve if we wanna get fancy

#

e.g. you could imagine a system where every shot degrades gun part by, say, 0.01% but once the average of all parts drops below some threshold, it degrades by 0.015%, and so on, so lower average gun part condition = faster rate of wear

#

but making the system revolve around probability means a highly unpredictable rate of wear, which i do not like when the thing you are modelling is mechanical wear and tear aka "system that is designed to make players invest resources to avoid a negative gameplay outcome"

#

however for an "unexpected" gameplay event that you have to react to, like weapon jams? hell yeah probabilistic modelling works great

fallen atlas
#

This is literally day one what the fuck are you doing in here

#

I just wanted to do some zombie killing

stuck zephyr
#

yo give me your chimeras

ripe lagoon
stuck zephyr
#

getting cockblocked by chimera hearts from endgame artifacts

prisma crag
#

The fetchin fps boost mod that shall not be named doesnt download correctly through moddb

#

bomboclat

green shale
radiant sage
green shale
stuck zephyr
#

now before I get shot for it, I do think the Tarkov overheating mechanic is a good balancing tool for guns

green shale
#

why number of parts, though? are you imaginging a different system for pistols v.s. other weapons?

stuck zephyr
#

instead of just random jam chance and durability alone

fallen atlas
#

Okay what are the odds of finding a fully functional gun on someone?

ripe lagoon
radiant sage
#

What would you do with a guns reliability stat in this case?

ripe lagoon
#

nothing, as usual kekw

radiant sage
ripe lagoon
#

I don't use upgrades, so probably can't be bothered

#

that junk weighs 3kg even at tier 1

green shale
#

basically, to me, i want the gun degradation system to be:

  • roughly predictable, even if you aren't pinpoint accurate (e.g. "i know that after a firefight i lose about X%, so I should fix my gun now")
  • roughly consistent across guns of the same "class"
  • see i think that reliability stat should be considered but that you pick a calculated "the default gun should go from 100% to the repair threshold in X number of shots" and adjust all guns up and down from there, with reliability stat as a modifier on the curve of degradation per shot
#

i have not yet done the whole planning doc song and dance that i did for tougher gun repair but yeah i just. really do not like "if gun is high condition you have a 2.8/10000 chance for a part to degrade per shot" or whatever the fuck

#

also because if you modify off a standard curve, you can in fact communicate this to players as a straightforward %

#

you could even call it... "reliability"

ripe lagoon
#

ah I misread, yeah reliability stat will be used, not sure about reliability upgrades

radiant sage
green shale
#

well off i go playing with my excel charts and my virtual whiteboard planning documents

radiant sage
#

God speed

stuck zephyr
#

the sin classic, 8 guys, 5 pechengs, fucking bargain bin ass gun

ripe lagoon
green shale
#

that sounds like the simplest way to achieve it, yeah

ripe lagoon
#

again, probably should also multiply the damage by quantity of parts the gun has

green shale
#

why by the quantity of parts though?

#

just to make pistols easier to maintain?

stuck zephyr
#

maybe could now add reliability as a factor?

ripe lagoon
#

pistols already have higher condition dec

stuck zephyr
#

so the stat has some meaning

green shale
#

reliability is not called "reliability" in weapon configs

stuck zephyr
#

ah, ok, didn't know the internal details

green shale
#

yeah np modder lingo

wintry leaf
#

What stats do you think are worth upgrading/or not upgrading on a gun?

ripe lagoon
green shale
#

at least they should maybe have some other perk aside from "you can have it as your third gun"

ripe lagoon
#

yeah let's not start about damage balance

green shale
#

yeahhhh that only leads to insanity

blissful ivy
#

I like all this reliability and jam stuff im reading

#

doge1doge2 this may get me to update gamma if it happens

green shale
ripe lagoon
#

this needs some more complex scripting then just reading the stat from .ltx though

#

but we'll see

green shale
blissful ivy
#

Ahh modder yap, i yearn to understand, yet will not put time in to learn

green shale
#

so a gun w/ 5 parts, each shot takes cond_shot_dec * 0.2 dmg and a gun w/ 3 parts takes cond_shot_dec * 0.33

ripe lagoon
#

what about barrel degradation btw?

green shale
#

i feel if you're going to do a special case for one gun part, you open the door for special cases overall

ripe lagoon
#

wdym
barrel degradation is already separated

green shale
#

i would say something like a "mercy" system might be nice, like if one part is well below average, that is excluded from the random choice of parts to damage

#

OR, wait actually, the radically fair approach: every gun part just takes the same amount of condition damage per shot

ripe lagoon
#

nah I think random part is fine

green shale
timber nimbus
green shale
#

unironically why i was going for "just damage all the parts equally per shot", b/c i think to make a satisfying rng part dmg system, you also definitely need rng mitigation/weighting/mercy system

#

it's just simpler to damage all of them equally.

#

with maybe one exception for how barrel degradation gets handled

#

versus "any part can take damage, but to make it not dogshit, you want to e.g. exclude a part from the pool if it's >X% or has been damaged twice already or is the lowest % out of all the parts or..."

dry oriole
#

did you found a fix for that?

green shale
dry oriole
ripe lagoon
timber nimbus
ripe lagoon
#

well yeah, currently damage is random, so you can go under 60% in just 4 shots

timber nimbus
#

or another time when i decided that 81% part doesnt need cleaning and it gone below 60 very quick

proper drum
#

my starting pernach had part broken after 3 mags used

#

on 093 at least

#

my face -> kekwait

ripe lagoon
timber nimbus
#

it was totally my fault, but still
a mercy system to prevent some of this rng would be nice to have

green shale
#

pseudorandom is way harder to do, yeah

timber nimbus
#

btw
send help
literally not a single mechanic sells this part for my ks12 xD
its been 3 days omegakekw

green shale
still mantle
#

didnt even know this existed wtf

timber nimbus
celest sparrow
prisma crag
#

hits like a semi truck

timber nimbus
#

it shouldnt be like that tho

prisma crag
#

its chambered in the same round as VSSK no?

celest sparrow
#

yeah

prisma crag
#

ooh shit a sphere helm

#

cant repair it yet

#

holy fuck freedom base is stuttery

#

FPS is on a trampoline

timber nimbus
prisma crag
#

yeah thats true

#

doesnt mean it isnt funny as fuck

timber nimbus
#

true

fallen atlas
#

Okay this is a second time this happened

#

Where the fuck did the body go

prisma crag
#

I one snuck up on a military and shot him in the back of the head with it and he flipped over a window

timber nimbus
prisma crag
fallen atlas
#

Okay it's there.
Why tf does the marker just vanish though

prisma crag
#

being clear sky is nice cause i can get that lovely loot in dead city

#

should I do clear sky story line first or living legend for the billionth time

#

nvm were doing last dawn anyway

timber nimbus
#

btw does anyone know what parameters are responsible for flickering of idle lights?
campfire is static and gas lamp from furniture mod is static too
but decor lamps on various locations are flickering
i really want to have flickering light for my lighter

celest sparrow
#

It only ever happens on Missing Duty and Recover Sidorovich's shipment

blissful ivy
#

hey is there a map for lost signals in truck cemetery?

#

because this shit sucks

timber nimbus
blissful ivy
#

its massive and fucking shitty to look for with rf

#

fr?

#

i dont read pins, im a gamma user after all

prisma crag
#

m98b with thermals chefskiss

prisma crag
#

op sniper with an op scope

pale holly
#

imagine being a knower

prisma crag
#

I really need new armor

blissful ivy
prisma crag
#

my armor is so ass

timber nimbus
#

but nah, imma take gauss any time over barret

blissful ivy
#

ive never seen it

prisma crag
#

its either this or a VSSK with the eots 62

last mesa
prisma crag
#

i fucking hate the EOTS

last mesa
#

I fucking hate the VSSK

prisma crag
#

VSSK is nice till it isnt

timber nimbus
#

vssk is nice till it cant 1tap

#

then its trash

prisma crag
#

M98B just 1 tap city

#

until a renegade fucking tanked a chest shot

timber nimbus
#

gauss supremacy

prisma crag
#

I aint late game enough for a gauss ive just been doing side missions

last mesa
#

Gauss doesn't feel good in my opinion

prisma crag
#

plus M98B noises

timber nimbus
prisma crag
#

I debugged my thermal in cause I wanted to try it gonna toss it cause thats lame

#

but holy fuck this thermal attatchment is SO much better then the EOTS

last mesa
#

I don't like thermals clueless

prisma crag
#

thermals are op

timber nimbus
#

ive always skipped on barret exactly cuz it doesnt have thermals
but now it does

prisma crag
#

I love the guitars in this game

#

I always sit and listen

timber nimbus
#

ah hell no, i dont have D kit yet

prisma crag
#

kekpoint I grinding and crafted expert tools to repair this M98

#

I have an D kit

timber nimbus
#

u cant craft expert tools

prisma crag
#

you can

#

it's just VERY expensive

#

huh shit you cant

#

did I find these?

#

I think I crafted advanced

#

I did

timber nimbus
#

bruh

prisma crag
#

I got lucky and found an advanced kit

#

expert*

#

I am retarded

timber nimbus
#

advanced isnt even expensive to craft
heavy armor kit without expert tools is expensive
anything else isnt

pale holly
#

i got an as val and an ak103 pre expert, the 103 is pretty satisfying

#

just got done with artifacts vol2 so now im off to actually find expert tools

blissful ivy
#

if you have the most shit luck like me

#

i had a run where i got ZERO basics from stashes

timber nimbus
blissful ivy
#

so i had to gather like 60 nemiroff

#

and use the 2 i got off of duty bodies to make it

#

that makes 5

prisma crag
#

I want to find an AK 105, Howa, or either the RD 939, RD-74U ISG, or Draco ISG

blissful ivy
#

i literally got more from the 15% master/legend drop than i did from stashes

timber nimbus
#

i keep finding drugkits and gunkits in the north
the hell u mean shit luck

timber nimbus
pale holly
#

ive been getting a perfect balance of all (except expert ofc) toolkits. which is impressive

#

yep ak103 ballin. no ubgl tho

pale holly
#

wait actually i need to check if 103 has ubgl upgrade

prisma crag
#

Doesnt the 105 have a UBGL kit?

pale holly
#

if the 103 can take an ubgl with an upgrade im cooming immediately

timber nimbus
prisma crag
#

darn

timber nimbus
prisma crag
#

hey my SG 550 can take a UBGL

timber nimbus
#

normal is meh

#

but fn2000 is the king of 556x45

prisma crag
#

Me and other clear sky raiding all the renegade, I was supposed to do this solo but they wandered here lmao

pale holly