╓☢stalker-chat

[civic sage]

How tf did my boy end up there😩

[grave vigil]

And dead

[inner sierra]

Ooo I turned around, ooo I'm not looking

[grave vigil]

Also have u guys seen monolith behaves weirdly in base gamma

[inner sierra]

Good Heavens, he's snuck up on me

[grave vigil]

They just stare into your soul

[inner sierra]

They stare into walls

Because it's now cannon that monolith tells them enemy positions

[radiant fog]

Because they stoopid. Most mutants will run away from you and cant turn on a dime, so you can just stick in their behind

[grave vigil]

Also why is this BaS22 AKS 74UN so OP with fmj

Lmao what's happening with me

[grave vigil]

I mean even snorks are weird but they still attack at point blank but a chimera just circled around me

Also I've seen new players complain about medicine being expensive in early game why because they only know ibuprofen and yadulin..... Brother there's alternatives you can use

[inner sierra]

Yadulin is 1437 roubles on hardest difficulty

[grave vigil]

Might be

Ohh wait yes it is

But mostly it's your arms and legs

[inner sierra]

It's sad I know this off the top of my head

[thin orchid]

yadulin is for torso/head, ibuprofen is for limbs

[grave vigil]

Too much time spent

Brain cooked

[kindred meteor]

yo boys is this Frosty's mod pack spear?

[inner sierra]

I'd say a good 200 hours

[grave vigil]

Yea

[grave vigil]

You should try athi's one too

[kindred meteor]

kk thx

oh?

how so?

im down to try it

[grave vigil]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1321171662313619507

(not compatible with FWP)

[kindred meteor]

whats fwp again?

[grave vigil]

Frosty's pack

[kindred meteor]

oh...

fawk

[grave vigil]

Free ak 5c from a dead monolith god knows who killed

[grave vigil]

Its because both of them (fwp and athi's version) try to add the new caliber 6.8 to the game

Which crashes the game

[kindred meteor]

Unlucky

[grave vigil]

Just turn off eft weapon pack and enable the spear from ATHI and create a new save that way you can try it out

Just remember to enable the mod again when you load back into previous save

[kindred meteor]

ok will do tysm

[grave vigil]

Guys is it possible to add a WP trader at yanov by modifying the files

[thin orchid]

you can go to zaton for literally 2k roubles 😭

[hazy pollen]

oh, thats the new 6,8 mm Remington SPC rounds I keep earing about.

So, US army is going to abandon 5.56 completely or just use these high caliber rounds for LMGs?

[grave vigil]

Sire I prefer not to

Bro why'd I waste 2k roubles just to buy 2k roubles worth of ammo

Or maybe more

Ok barrier zombies quest I probably shouldn't do this I don't have much ammo but I will

[hazy pollen]

Why buy ammo when you can craft your own ammo from the loot of the cold death bodies of your enemies.

[grave vigil]

True. But still sometimes it's necessary

[hazy pollen]

You should try to avoid dissembling every ammo you find, I usually dissamble any type of rifle HP because I have buckshot or HP pistols instead, and crap 9x18 or 7.62×25.

If you dissemble something you use and then craft it again I think you lose material because there is some RNG in the parts obtained I believe (related to skills).

[grave vigil]

Ohhh

[vague stag]

Good to know cause I disassemble basically all ammo besides that are kitted to my loadout.

[grave vigil]

How many zombies are there tf

[vast magnet]

7.62x25 is the best calibre in the game wdym

[vague stag]

Is that the PPSH ammo?

[vast magnet]

yeah

[hazy pollen]

I can't remember what setting I touched in 0.9.1 but it made my game auto dissemble ammo I set as "Junk" but I can't get that behavior back.

[vague stag]

God I disassemble that shit immediately

[vast magnet]

I want to do a ppsh run when I play stalker again

Duty

[vague stag]

Well, you're gonna skrra skrra alot thats for sure.

[hazy pollen]

I don't use the PPSH, I usually pick a Mosin if I can for the parts I could exchange if I find a SV98.

[radiant fog]

7.62x25 HP unironicaly has the highest damage modifiers to pseudogiants

[warm verge]

barrier zombies just sucks tbh

[warm verge]

i use 4 gauge, is that overkill.

[radiant fog]

119% + 90% to mutants. So you're giving pseudogiants ass hemorroids with 7.62x25

[warm verge]

i can kill a pseudogiant in 5 shots.

[vast magnet]

I would use the mosin if that fucking thing could even consistently ohk on headshots in the early game

[hazy pollen]

KS-23

[grave vigil]

Holy how many more zombies are there in the barrier

[warm verge]

rubs hands

[radiant fog]

In terms of dps. PPSH is like the fastest way to kill a pseudo unironicaly

[warm verge]

a mod that lets you convert guns to other calibers

so essentially

i grab a RAPTR.

i change it to 4 gauge.

[vast magnet]

compared to a vector with hydrashock??

[sick yoke]

The humble rpg

[warm verge]

and i have the literal fucking super shotgun

[radiant fog]

Much faster

[hazy pollen]

Did they made Pseudogigants more tankier, now they can take like 10 KS-23 shots?

[warm verge]

my pseudos take 5 wtf

[grave vigil]

If u have bandolero you don't need any other mutant gun

[radiant fog]

Shotguns have damage drop off

[warm verge]

are you using shrapnel-25 or barrikada

[sick yoke]

Everything has damage dropoff

[vast magnet]

they made pseudogiants more numerous and tankier and also faster I think (definitely faster, now they run me down and eat me if my movement speed is too slow from encumbrance)

[radiant fog]

No shizzle my fizzlejizzle..other than gauss rifle

[warm verge]

shrapnel-25 is buckshot

[radiant fog]

Or rpg7

[warm verge]

barrikada is slugs

[radiant fog]

Or UBGL shots

[hazy pollen]

yes. that one, sorry I miss read.

[warm verge]

ehh

[sick yoke]

It’s not a big deal for shotguns unless you’re doing something dumb like trying to snipe with buckshot across the entirety of garbage (you’re just going to miss from spread)

[hazy pollen]

Yeah, they are quite fast now.

[celest sparrow]

they're only faster

[radiant fog]

I piss in one direction with a ks23 and carpet bomb em with buckshot

[vast magnet]

I didn't even know you could avoid pseudogiant damage from jumping until the last patch because my strategy for fighting them was to just kite and stay out of range of the slam

[hazy pollen]

Yeah, I think the UBGL find a new job as a excellent anti pseudogigant solution.

IEDs sucks against pseudogigant because they stop their aggro suddenly and they love to walk stupidly in circles.

[radiant fog]

The best way to kill a psuedo is an axe and an evil grin

[hazy pollen]

This is not Fallout Jimmy, you're going to get killed if you do that without late game equipment.

[thin orchid]

a single pseudogiant is really easy to cheese with a good melee

[hazy pollen]

Unless... you use that perk artifact.

[hazy pollen]

abuse the aggro distance?

[thin orchid]

yeah if you are close enough they will never do the slam and circling around them and keeping to their back makes them have to focus on turning to face you

[hazy pollen]

don't the new locomotion they have fixed that?

they seem quite agile now.

[thin orchid]

dont think so, it should still not be that hard

[radiant fog]

Nah im doing an axe only run. Its easy

[radiant fog]

They cant turn for shit

[grave vigil]

Finally got an UMP after so long wtf

[grave vigil]

Fella can't do shi besides running lmao

Pathing of mutants is definitely broken

[radiant fog]

[steel mauve]

he chillin

hunting is illegal

[radiant fog]

Dafuq kind of mod do you have to add deers

[steel mauve]

this is vanilla wdym

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/respawn-mutant-collection-part-e-1-0

[sick yoke]

Why would they make you lose rep for doing that

[steel mauve]

i think cause i did it in base

[novel junco]

They hate poachers i guess

[steel mauve]

not very free of them

[novel junco]

What does a Caribou even doing in Ukraine?

[sick yoke]

Just a chill guy chilling

[steel mauve]

S2 added deer

so

[sage schooner]

[celest sparrow]

Crashing your game right now

Hexing your computer to explode

[sage schooner]

i already saved :)

dooty base is no more tho

felt bad shooting aspirin

take over has begun

[cunning patio]

deer? sunshine this isn't red dead

[tribal dock]

Also I'm confused. I am currently having rain in game, but no sound of rain-

[hazy pollen]

quite a common thing, but in my case apart from soundless rain is the mutant horde appearing of nowhere without a single sound made, while I can ear the mercs at the other side of map saying "keep it profressional and shit".

[tribal dock]

Weird. Only happened when I reinstalled gamma

[hazy pollen]

I think is an Anomaly/Engine thing, not GAMMA fault... but I'm not an expert in this, so take my argument with a grain of salt.

[tribal dock]

Could also be that. I did have Sound Prefetch on

[past cape]

"hedshotz only"

[twin timber]

So this is a boryas

Took it long enough to show up

[tribal dock]

Huh, nevermind. Moved to another area and it fixed itself for now

[sage schooner]

another rare drop

[high elbow]

anyone know if the zombified stalker faction works properly with warfare enabled?

[twin timber]

Warfare by itself barely works

[high elbow]

damn..

but do it work tho

[twin timber]

I don't know, maybe

Strange creatures

[tribal dock]

My guy just moaned from low health

😳

[twin timber]

[hazy pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/begone-devil-demon-exorcism-sage-gif-82525492574426382

[fallen atlas]

Ayo? https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/procedural-movement-animations

[celest sparrow]

Aight we'll see it in Modded Exes soon

[normal island]

https://tenor.com/view/mid-this-shit-is-so-mid-it's-mid-gif-8902724714507480096

[fallen atlas]

Great I'm tempted to re-download GAMMA now

[random grail]

Soulslike channel also will be removed

[twin timber]

Man i really want

[celest sparrow]

If we unite together, we might get #╓☢stalker-chat removed as well

[random grail]

||i'm not surpised||

[twin timber]

A FN scar-L

[normal island]

Why the fuck did it even had it's own channel in the first place

[twin timber]

I love the scar but the H became so shit after the nerf

[celest sparrow]

what nerf

[random grail]

Yea

That was dumb idea to create channel for it

[celest sparrow]

Just have it be part of Invictus

[jolly crag]

Huh. So I guess I can say Angry Eidolon Slaying is a Thing™ now. Went at him with an AK12 and entirely too much AP because I was irritated and he went down like a sack of potatoes. :/

Didn't even finish the magazine

[celest sparrow]

Local player discovers that Eidolon only has a lot of Armor

[jolly crag]

I mean I knew before that

[twin timber]

The one that fucked it's recoil immensely

[jolly crag]

But he usually tanks my shots better than that

[celest sparrow]

State where.

[jolly crag]

Guess my aim's improved :/

[twin timber]

?

[normal island]

Had no idea the Scar-L was even in GAMMA

[twin timber]

It's not

[stark sable]

where did invictus channel go

[celest sparrow]

"Boo hoo they nerfed my shit "

Doesn't say where it was Nerfed

[stark sable]

was it banished to the shadow realm now

[twin timber]

I just said

The recoil control

[celest sparrow]

Scar H wasn't touched

It was always like that

[green shale]

yup

[stark sable]

worst ever change

[twin timber]

Ye the moderators didn't feel like moderating

So they got rid of the channel entirely

[normal island]

Veer can I get my own channel for my mods?

[green shale]

I'm not a mod, can't do that

[celest sparrow]

Damn they removed Invictus
Anyway

[normal island]

FUCK YOU

I never even liked birds anyways

[cobalt glade]

increased pop be like

[twin timber]

Veer can we ban juan since his weapons don't have UBGL

Where's my ubgl MP5

[celest sparrow]

Juan can you add more recoil to your weapons so GAMMA players don't use them

[normal island]

Fuck animating those ngl

[normal island]

Another reason for them not to?

[celest sparrow]

[vague stag]

Monolith in GARBAGE? Huuuuuuuuhhhh

[celest sparrow]

They can spawn in the South

Before being removed with a script

[twin timber]

George one-eyed
Clearly has two eyes

Gamma sucks

[harsh sandal]

[twin timber]

Is this supposed to spawn in meadow?

[edgy basin]

when did they make pseudogiants so fast 😭

[celest sparrow]

0.9.3

[twin timber]

They weren't annoying enough hitting you with a ground slam from 2km away

[celest sparrow]

Most likely spawned from a Dynamic Anomaly

[twin timber]

I also remember this stuff looking different back in 0.9.1

It actually looked like the icon

The offworld model at least

[steel mauve]

i got a compass in garbage once

[sage schooner]

i dont even think i can be more prepared for the brain scorcher outside of maybe heavy armour

[steel mauve]

[twin timber]

A medium ibaz?

I thought they were all heavy

Hope you brought some morphine tho

[opaque moss]

so apparently this is being added to gamma https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/lr-300-reanimation

[twin timber]

The LR 300 is coming back?

Lets goooo

[opaque moss]

idk how to feel about it tbh, I think radon's animation is better

[tribal dock]

Uh-

[normal island]

Sed's set is pretty good imo

[opaque moss]

idk it feels weird in a way

I don't quite like it tbh

[normal island]

I think it's pretty good

Sed's a pretty good animator imo

He could probably make it slightly better today

[opaque moss]

yeah idk it just feels inconsistent to me

[sage schooner]

its from an armour rebalance, though i think ibazes should have been heavy anyways

[sage schooner]

only 25 shots

[opaque moss]

like the set as a whole is both snappy/uneased and way too smooth

[twin timber]

Eh the iBAz isn't that good imo

It should be a better bullet protection vest for medium

Since it's not better than skat 9 or radsuit anyway

[vague stag]

The animations look alright, but I have an untrained eye.

[harsh sandal]

Seva body armor

[twin timber]

Still fucked up that a supposedly scientific suit is better than any medium armor at being bulletproof

[sage schooner]

rpg merc at the sniper nest in wild territory

[twin timber]

[harsh sandal]

You know what is basically an ibaz but on medium?

Berils

[twin timber]

Beryls don't exist

They're just a myth

Besides i think they're only available for duty and military?

And bandits

Because of course the bandits have em

[harsh sandal]

And merc

And freedom

I say they are quite common, but yeah depend on your luck

Merc beril is the best beril iirc

[twin timber]

I have never seen a merc or a freedomer beryl

Maybe i'm just blind

[harsh sandal]

Merc beril is quite rare as far as I know, mostly from stashes

[sage schooner]

Freedom Beryl's drop normally

[harsh sandal]

Yep

[sage schooner]

Didn't see a Merc one tho

[celest sparrow]

I've seen it drop, but I mostly see it in stashes

[twin timber]

Mercs usually wear their LC suits

[harsh sandal]

Yeah like I said

[twin timber]

Sometimes STS

[harsh sandal]

Because of their models I assume?

[celest sparrow]

You would have to check the entries for it

Woodland Exosuit only has 1 model tied to it so might be a case of it being low

[twin timber]

Once a freedomer...

[heavy cradle]

that weird upgrade? what this it do?

[oblique reef]

Only slugs

[heavy cradle]

i fully upgraded the weapon just to test it it seems it change Ammo

and lower dmg

to the other shotgun ammo

[oblique reef]

Wait, changes it to 12g or something?

[pulsar linden]

Getting quite comfy
i do miss some anime posters tho

[oblique reef]

Cuz the Chimera hunter already has Barrikada

[heavy cradle]

yee to the same ammo that saiga use

[sage schooner]

where tf is that?

[heavy cradle]

before that it use same as KS 23

[oblique reef]

hmm, yeah you're not gonna want that then

[pulsar linden]

freedom base

[oblique reef]

that's a really weird change

[sage schooner]

huh, i dont recognize the room at all lol

[oblique reef]

It's the room in front of Lukash?

[pulsar linden]

when you get up the stairs, right and right

[sage schooner]

i remember it being a lot smaller though

[oblique reef]

Was that cabinet in the left always there?

[pulsar linden]

yep

[oblique reef]

Figures, that should totally be a new hideout furniture

[heavy cradle]

before

after

[pulsar linden]

the shelves are basically all integrated into the room
but it really lends itself to modification
and you could use the room across the floor, too, if need be

[heavy cradle]

ye ye if what is written in gamma was what it is in game that will be nice

[green shale]

ironically, an almost impossible task to make tooltip descriptions of weapon stat upgrades 100% accurate to what they actually do

[heavy cradle]

Yee, i feel it

[last mesa]

I'd like to get back into Gamma after playing S2 for a bit, but I remember the ai in gamma being able to run and aim at you, is there a mod for that?

Just kind of crackhead like behavior in their movement kind of thing, always shifty

[sage schooner]

with one simple trick ivan made the chimera hunter useless, click here to find out how

[sage schooner]

why 2 workshops?

[pulsar linden]

1 for crafting ammo, 1 for everything else

[sage schooner]

why not merge them? I don't use workshops sorry

[heavy cradle]

i use 3-4

1 for ammo
1 for artefacts
1 for medicine
1 For everything else, aka Parts for weapons and Armour and repair kits 😄

[sage schooner]

1 infinite stash is superior

I refuse to organize my shit

[heavy cradle]

it will slow your game

[sage schooner]

It can try

[heavy cradle]

also there is game limit of items, at some point game will not spawn anything anymore

and will crash 😄

its around 65k

[lethal steeple]

ackshyally it doesn't lower your damage

[pulsar linden]

Mm
I could
But at some point im not gonna use the general one that much
So its gonna be more comfortable for lag issues to separate it, i think

[lethal steeple]

but since it remains at 58 base yeah you end up with a vastly lower damage than 12g shotguns have

those orbit around 80 base damage

but it doesn't lower the gun's damage

yes i'm arguing semantics

[heavy cradle]

but how it not worse when Base of Hydra Hunter is 300+ and after upgrade is 90

[celest sparrow]

But Momo the funny damage number goes down when I change calibers

[lethal steeple]

what the fuck did you just say there

what is even going on

[heavy cradle]

i sterted writing before reading whole think 😄

and im not keyboard user that can write without partly lookin onto my keys ;d

[haughty heath]

I found the isg version of as-val (rd 939). worth using it? I already have a couple of 7.62x39 isg ARs

[heavy cradle]

i mean is Val

and 9x39 is great

[haughty heath]

I recall people avoiding that caliber due to the falloff

[heavy cradle]

and prob u can kit it much better then any 7,62

[sage schooner]

i will stop playing by then so no need to worry in my situation

[harsh gull]

so lads, the zone calls once more

what's new

[pulsar linden]

Perfection

[radiant fog]

maps aint long enough for 9x39 drop to be relevant.

[harsh gull]

mate that person is a child fyi

[radiant fog]

alot of the times you just run up and laser beam an enemy with 9x39 in a milisecond

[harsh gull]

i love my VSS

[shell orchid]

Did something happen to the invictus chat?

[radiant fog]

VSS is neato burrito. love that walnut / birch stock

[radiant fog]

ye. it got removed.

[shell orchid]

Maaaaaaaaan

[harsh gull]

yo btw, wheres the update logs?

[heavy cradle]

reason?

[harsh gull]

uhhh i want to know whats new

since i last played

[radiant fog]

it makes 0 sense to have it. its a niche thing not many do, and the chat was allways quite toxic "oh i did invicitus so im better than you"

not to mention the leaderboards was full of people cheating runs

[oblique reef]

Fr? Was anyone outed?

[radiant fog]

you can discuss ironman / invictus runs in normal chats.

[sick yoke]

The damage number on tooltips “goes down” after applying that upgrade

[radiant fog]

no. because its not a competition, its so easily skewed in the first place

[cobalt glade]

weebs in MY post-soviet miserable irradiated almost-postapo shithole??? aight based

[shell orchid]

How can you check if a run was cheated or not?

[sick yoke]

Cause remember, base gamma shows the “total damage” on shotguns

[shell orchid]

Im actually curious on that

[radiant fog]

you cant over a screenshot, but there was so many blatant ones that you know there would be so many non-blatant ones

people go to great lengths to fake runs like that

thats why its better to remove the chat related to it, so people keep invicitus runs as personal challenges

[sick yoke]

Basically clueless knowledge issue

[oblique reef]

I'll know in my heart that my invictus was real

[shell orchid]

Lmao, been at it for 2 months and only made it north once

[radiant fog]

the chat just made it a competition

[shell orchid]

The luck of this start

[sick yoke]

Except it hasn’t been that way for like, at least a year

[radiant fog]

[shell orchid]

It was fun to talk strategy but I guess you can do that anywhere

[radiant fog]

indeed

[oblique reef]

I actually got some decent strats there, like an army medkit before doing a risky move

[sick yoke]

The role was removed years ago and there wasn’t even a “leaderboard”

[radiant fog]

well the "pins"

but since there also was a pins limit, it was only those 50 that was officialy on the "leaderboard"

[shell orchid]

Welp guess I'll talk about my failures and successes here then

[sick yoke]

Pins aren’t even a “leaderboard” lol

[radiant fog]

or "wall of honor" or however you wanna call it

leaderboard isnt the best word for it

"wall of honor" i guess is more accurate

[harsh gull]

so umm, where do i find the patch notes

[radiant fog]

especially makes it toxic when only 50 can be officialy recognized via the pins

and most of those pins were several years old

[lethal steeple]

gee i wonder why

[sick yoke]

But literally no one gave a shit about being pinned lol

[lethal steeple]

also that

[radiant fog]

i saw alot of complaints about it

[sick yoke]

It’s been that way ever since I joined

[lethal steeple]

literally nobody cared

shit was even like that before the pins were maxed out

[radiant fog]

the role aswell. people getting toxic and saying they are better than others cuz of the role

[lethal steeple]

nah that was one guy really

but yeah

[sick yoke]

Removed years ago

[heavy cradle]

is it worth to buy a 105 upgrade kit when i already have ak 74 Venom? 🙂

[sick yoke]

Again, not an issue

[oblique reef]

I'd argue no, the Venom will do just as good as a 105

[radiant fog]

it makes more sense to keep invictus runs as a personal challenge, rather than having it within its own seperate chat as that tends to turn it into more of a competition from my experience

[fallen atlas]

Okay I re-installed GAMMA
And out of curiosity
Why was Devices of Anomaly disabled?

[radiant fog]

[twin timber]

Nah

[radiant fog]

i cant even recall what devices of anomaly was

[sage schooner]

what did devices of anomaly even do?

[twin timber]

You're not really missing anything with the upgraded 105

Just some tacticool looking gun

[oblique reef]

Must've been an older version of DAR

[radiant fog]

overpriced tacticool gun*

[twin timber]

The venom not only will be more cheaper for you

But it also looks pretty good

[radiant fog]

the worst part about the venom is how optics is put on the damn gas block

[sick yoke]

That chat literally hasn’t been like that for years

[sage schooner]

am I supposed to just know these acronyms

[oblique reef]

Devices of Anomaly redone

[twin timber]

Black looking classic ak but a little modernized to have rails

The venom is beautiful

[sick yoke]

It was just people talking about doing invictus

Strategies and shit

[twin timber]

Also laser sight

[radiant fog]

it makes 0 sense how it has rails but alot of optics is put literally in front of the hand guard

[sage schooner]

and we are back at DoA ig, its just an reanim of detectors?

[heavy cradle]

i mean if that was ak 74 PMC it will not be a question but yee 😄

[oblique reef]

Think so?

[twin timber]

Honestly the rails should have been put way behind lol

[radiant fog]

if it was only that, i guess they removed it cuz "fuck you guys"

[sage schooner]

found the mod, its a retexture as well

[twin timber]

It was removed because, again, the mods didn't feel like doing their work

[sick yoke]

Because it’s “easier to moderate” with less channels

[twin timber]

Discord is a monarchy

[radiant fog]

it should be on the reciever, not the gas block/hand guard. if its an optic that goes on the rail, when you aim down sights its absurdly annoying

why did mods have to moderate it then if it wasnt a problem

[pulsar linden]

thats bullshit tho
the braggards were a problem in other chats
and they will probably continue to be

[twin timber]

There were no braggards in invictus channel

[sick yoke]

They didn’t remove the vids or screenshot channels (useless lol) so it basically was just a “fuck you guys” moment

[twin timber]

And if there were any we'd call them out pretty much instantly

[radiant fog]

i saw quite a few toxic instances in the invictus channel every now and then

[twin timber]

I see people using the screenshot channel to discuss reshade presets lol

And SSS settings

[heavy cradle]

ok then ruger or Protector 😄

[twin timber]

Protector

Ruger sucks

[heavy cradle]

for my swamp trip

[twin timber]

Huh?

[radiant fog]

Ruger if you want a higher power optic to use it as a DMR with a canted sight (altough it has low mag size) otherwise its protector all the way

[twin timber]

A 5.56 dmr is kinda shit but eh

I'd still go with the m4

[echo kettle]

It seems like stalker enhanced ver. uses DX 12 instead 11, how?

[twin timber]

Engine upgrades

[radiant fog]

with how GBO works, it works fine as a DMR cuz most enemies still die from 2-3 FMJ headshots

[echo kettle]

that means, is there a posibility to make gamma DX 12 as well? I have 0 stutters with the enhanced editions using that API

[twin timber]

They fixed a lot of the jank on the new versions

[celest sparrow]

no

[twin timber]

No lmao

[stark wyvern]

no, better engine's required

[echo kettle]

Vulkan?

[twin timber]

Unless the source code leaks (it won't)

Or GSC gives it to modders (they won't)

Anomaly upgraded is impossible

[echo kettle]

Reverse engineer is still a posibility.

[radiant fog]

Vulkan is just a more lower end version of directx

[lethal steeple]

i mean every channel has its fair share of beyond toxic assholes but that doesn't mean the entire channel is a toxic cesspool

[radiant fog]

or easier to use rather

[lethal steeple]

that'd be like saying stalker chat is beyond salvation just because i'm a regular here

[celest sparrow]

They should delete this channel as well

[twin timber]

Wait It's momo

[radiant fog]

ofc, but when its a niche thing, they can just be toxic where everyone else is

[twin timber]

I was about to ask who are you

[oblique reef]

Merge everything into one channel so the mods only have to deal with one

[radiant fog]

then dry and millenial falco can smack them all at once

[twin timber]

Why do you change nicknames so often

[radiant fog]

[lethal steeple]

asking xela to give me nicknames in bot commands every half week

[radiant fog]

2 min message cooldown time

[twin timber]

Xela?

[heavy cradle]

don't talk bout enchanted edition, it's ** and they unlisted original versions

[lethal steeple]

brother you get them when you buy the enhanced editions

[twin timber]

Oh shit ain't that the bot that had some vulnerability that made some guys mass ping everyone on gamma?

[echo kettle]

I'm a vet STALKER and the enhanced editions aren't that bad at all.

[lethal steeple]

why are people this turned on by fear mongering

[celest sparrow]

did the mute change you who the fuck is this hunk

[heavy cradle]

u can still download olde version?

[twin timber]

The new editions are pretty good

[echo kettle]

I like the smoothness I can't have in the OG due the incompatibility with new hardware.

[twin timber]

A really nice way to introduce someone to stalker

Since again, most of the jank and game fucking bugs were fixed

[radiant fog]

yes.

[lethal steeple]

next thing you know the enhanced editions replace the ccon monologue with an accurate prediction of the end times and after you listen to it you gouge your eyes out and the guy starts crying hyper realistic blood and strelok shoots himself

[celest sparrow]

That's what I've been saying but people have such a hate boner for it

[twin timber]

Along with several upgrades on the engine and they also FINALLY fixed the damn CPU issue

[lethal steeple]

it's that insane

[twin timber]

No more only zero core

[radiant fog]

on steam they are seperate clients. if you had the original versions you recieve the enchaned for free, if you buy the enhanced version, you get the original games also

[twin timber]

And having to do makeshift crackhead solutions for that

[echo kettle]

the stutter made me insane during several years.

[lethal steeple]

not like multithreaded gaming is like a recently figured out concept

so yeah what was their problem making the engine singlethreaded and 32bit

[twin timber]

Yes but like, the og trilogy is almost 20 years old

[lethal steeple]

why the fuck didn't they futureproof xray for anomaly

what were they thinking

that's such a fumble

[twin timber]

GSC...

[celest sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/avgn-angry-video-game-nerd-what-were-they-thinking-what-are-they-thinking-confused-gif-17417919

[twin timber]

Only thing that bothered me in the enhanced editions was the FSR

[cobalt glade]

oh shit they did delist og trilogy

[celest sparrow]

Who cares

[radiant fog]

ye why buy 2 games seperatly when you get two games for the price of 1

[twin timber]

Well

[radiant fog]

[twin timber]

The og trilogy was way cheaper than the enhanced...

[radiant fog]

(they raised the price i bet)

[lethal steeple]

it was like 10% cheaper

i'm a fourth worlder and i see no issue

[twin timber]

Maybe in your coin

[radiant fog]

on allkeyshop it was like 3 bucks for the og games

[twin timber]

Fourth?

Daymn

[lethal steeple]

fifth, even

[twin timber]

Don't tell me you're yugoslav

[heavy cradle]

anyway it's still better to just do Moded version then enchanted one ZRP over EE 😄

[radiant fog]

SoC the old version rn is 6-7 euro for steam global. If you really only want the og version

[celest sparrow]

Okay, go do that then

Stupid argument

[heavy cradle]

they imported old bugs with new versions

[radiant fog]

even tho its delisted you can still activate a key for it

[heavy cradle]

when they are already fixed by moders

[twin timber]

I'm only waiting for more mods

However it seems it's harder to mod the enhanced editions?

I've heard some keyboard jockeys complaining

[radiant fog]

the keybinds are all over the place in the enhanced versions, some keys dont even work at all

tho i think latest patch fixed it

[celest sparrow]

No idea

I guess they were crying about GSCs Guidelines

[echo kettle]

oh yeah i can't bind my extra mouse keys for now

[radiant fog]

[lethal steeple]

why would you even need more mouse binds in the original trilogy

[celest sparrow]

Which I imagine only apply to the Steam Workshop

[radiant fog]

you dont need em, but you should have the ability to cuz mouse binds is comfortable

[echo kettle]

i use 1 extra mouse click for crouch in shooters =0

[radiant fog]

not being able to is annoying tbh

its 2025.

[lethal steeple]

nah that's a manufactured problem

[echo kettle]

I hope they fix it soon TM

[lethal steeple]

it's like when some games don't let you bind arrow keys

i know it's a manufactured problem because easily less than 0.5% of people use the arrow keys

and i'm not switching to wasd

[pulsar linden]

Immersive

[radiant fog]

[lethal steeple]

woah bro took a while to find the emoji

[radiant fog]

i was responding to you at first

but decided its not worth it, since you're a filthy fifth worlder without mouse binds

[restive umbra]

I mean most keybinds can be rerouted with power tools for ez cool custom binds

[viral topaz]

PORN ‼️ ‼️

[novel junco]

Anyone know a mod that disables NPC headlights at daytime or similar?

[pulsar linden]

bruh

[viral topaz]

FUNNY SEX FACES ‼️

[celest sparrow]

uhh I think you mean Ahegao

[viral topaz]

dont like that word

[celest sparrow]

[warm verge]

YES
YESSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[sick yoke]

Not enough, 5/10

[pulsar linden]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-gif-14135670661561260102

[warm verge]

needs more tits laddie

[mortal orbit]

Anyone can approximate how much space a full clean install would take?

[warm verge]

add more tits

[pulsar linden]

[warm verge]

YES.

TITTIES.

[pulsar linden]

mentally prepared for BS now

tho
i guess i could plaster the whole Freedom HQ🤔
bet they wouldnt mind

[warm verge]

this one freedomer killed a chimera

what a chad

[cloud saffron]

why ur game so white

and 720p

[uncut quarry]

Should I shoot buckshot in the body or head when facing a stulker with medium armor and a heavy helm?

[lethal steeple]

always at the face

[uncut quarry]

Oki, thanks

[vital whale]

whats the command for the storyline google doc again

danke

[heavy cradle]

so, we can't craft plate?

the green one?

[vital whale]

oop

[uncut quarry]

!quest

[heavy cradle]

only buy then upgrade

[dawn marten]

@uncut quarry Having problems with a certain task? #╭📖faq message

[uncut quarry]

This one

Nvm

[vital whale]

I founds it

Storyline

danke anyways <3

[uncut quarry]

[heavy cradle]

in newbie chat there is pin comment u will have everything 😄

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

linked for yaa

[vital whale]

danke

i just forgot where the documents case at mili checkpoint was

das all

[heavy cradle]

in the captain room 😄

[vital whale]

hoping my disguise works, 99% mili base outfit

[heavy cradle]

put down weapon and walk slow

and dont go near high rank guys

[vital whale]

so lower ranked folks are fine?

[heavy cradle]

cuse there is one that patrol he always cath yaa

[vital whale]

cuz I know theres usually a gunner on the MG

[heavy cradle]

so try avoid him

there is one guy that walk back and forth at the entrance he is the worst

other then him u can just walk in 😄

also u can do quick missions for them 😛

look in pda if they ask for something that u might have on yaa for extra cash 😄

[vital whale]

is there a rep requirement till non KOS?

havent tried the disguise mechanic much yet to do that

[sage schooner]

i found a new issue, im running out of syringes to craft with

[warm verge]

ok

ok im gonna do the BS

finally got a FUCKING phantom star

🙏

[proper drum]

just have your suit 100% no gun in hand, don't gaze on enemies as you wanna eat them alive and don't sleep among enemies; ah also beware machine guns

[proper drum]

bs nowadays undoable w/o PS? xd

[sage schooner]

FUCKING SAME

[vital whale]

I do have an SV98, I could just try to snipe em all

but may be a waste of supplies if can walk in

[sage schooner]

MY BODY IS READY

[warm verge]

no im too lazy to run it without one

[proper drum]

? why

mm is kinda harder

coz you know 2 random sinners with random shak12 shooting you from the top in darkness

and bs is braindead lab you can do with hands tied

[pulsar linden]

i think it says stop
maybe i should turn around🤷‍♂️

[warm verge]

jupiter xheckpoint

also that's the one SIG with the

grenade launcher right

[sage schooner]

Obviously that's the limansk checkpoint

[warm verge]

i set a challenge

[pulsar linden]

it can equip one, yes

[warm verge]

to not be able to use exoskeletons

and the game spites me.

by giving me an exoskeleton.

[sage schooner]

clear as day

[lethal steeple]

oh that's funny someone needs to make a font replacer that uses comic sans

why has this not been made

the scene is sleeping

[hardy flame]

🤔

[normal island]

That's out in the public and that's not going to be released in a distant decade

[quasi lance]

just got me a duty nosorog

is it better than my isg proto ?

[celest sparrow]

Eh

[lethal steeple]

hold control

[normal island]

Oh wait he did release it

Right

[lethal steeple]

and check details for upgrades

[pulsar linden]

?

Which o e do you mean?

[cobalt glade]

I swear to god, started merc, day 2 yantar I get a legend loner squad rushing me, killed an exo dude and in his inventory I only found a Predator stalker suit

[normal island]

Teivaz

I saw some renders of his G3 anims

But I thought it was for some LEWD mod or something

But no he did release them

Cool

[pulsar linden]

Think its gamma worthy?
Or are there other problems?

[celest sparrow]

Doubt Grok will want to add another 7.62x51

[lethal steeple]

how the fuck does taz dj reply to the oldest of posts all the time

[celest sparrow]

Unless he wants to replace the SA58

[lethal steeple]

like what is he looking for

what is the endgame

it's actually crazy

[normal island]

They have a habit of searching for stuff lol

[lethal steeple]

yeah but the g3 anim comment didn't even mention his name

[normal island]

I mean yeah the quality is great, Teivaz is a great animator

Bro doesn't know the lore

Anyways

[warm verge]

yay

[lethal steeple]

what did bro mean with "gamma worthy"

[warm verge]

bs done, now i must suffer with the NORTH.

[normal island]

Yeah I don't think the issue as to why there aren't some guns in GAMMA is "there aren't good assets for them"

[normal island]

Not dogshit quality

Some people are under the impression that GAMMA has a high bar when it comes to weapon standards

[lethal steeple]

we shall not tell them about any rwap guns nor the commando

those items do not exist

[celest sparrow]

"Why was the AK12 Monolith removed?"

I don't like the animations lol

[normal island]

Or like half of BaS

[pulsar linden]

because last i had that conversation with grok he said there was no g3 that was good enough for gamma, basically

[lethal steeple]

there were literally no g3 reanims at the time of that post

[pulsar linden]

there were

[normal island]

There were, yeah

The old Sed ones

Which were pretty decent

[celest sparrow]

Even then I doubt it would get added if it's suggested

[lethal steeple]

then why did you not add them to your game

you know

[normal island]

Better than some sets currently in GAMMA

[lethal steeple]

it's modular

even

[green shale]

reanimations are such a matter of personal taste anyway

[normal island]

Eeeeeh

[pulsar linden]

#╓☢stalker-chat message
you even said so yourself

[green shale]

i dislike a good chunk of the gamma defaults

[celest sparrow]

Or who knows, Grok is inconsistent with his decisions

[green shale]

there is for sure such a thing as a "bad animation"

but as the plethora of Tacticool Rattling and wick flicks prove

[warm verge]

sibers M4 reanims:

[green shale]

there's shit i hate too

[normal island]

Like the AK12 mono ones

Right?

[lethal steeple]

oh no poor me i did not remember exactly what i said 17 years ago my career is ruined

[normal island]

[lethal steeple]

i'm getting cancelled

[celest sparrow]

[normal island]

CACA will be so not modular that it will have all the mods packed in .db files

Ala bosspack

[lethal steeple]

oh that would go so hard

reducing load times by a single second due to the absence of loose files

[green shale]

also because now the modpack size ballooning is largely because of gun reanimations

so i'm opposed to them on that principle too

[harsh gull]

lads i havent played in a while

[celest sparrow]

Grok on his way to replace every BaS gun with reanimations

[lethal steeple]

cool, don't

[harsh gull]

how fucked am I

[vital whale]

If you really had to nitpick, what are some things the pack may be missing in terms of mods? Whether better quality, new additions, etc

[normal island]

Why tho

[oblique reef]

Saves will prob be borked if it's a while while

[green shale]

as in "if you look at the gamma mod folder, gun reanims take up the most drive space"

[lethal steeple]

out of all the things gamma has normalized in the scene i just wish the transitional period for the attachment system, parallax reflex sights, and 3dss is over so that gun mods can be downsized to a few kilobytes

[green shale]

to be clear, this is a case of "i care significantly less about gun reanimations than i do about gameplay and if i was making this pack for myself i would not have bothered with the vast majority of reanimations"

[vital whale]

This was less about the specifics of the reanimations for firearms and more a general querey of interest

[lethal steeple]

but bro answered your question

in the first line

[green shale]

i have different ideas about what should be done with the gameplay and a lot of them involve mods that do not exist so i am off making them, e.g. https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1374132887040819361 and https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1364286250428923914

[normal island]

That's crazy considering omf files take up literal kilobytes

[lethal steeple]

yeah but the model needs to have the bones

so it needs to be edited

[green shale]

well a significant quantity seem to be combined remodels and retextures

[harsh gull]

ngl is it worth it to have a mag limitation for a new save?

[lethal steeple]

and ther you get a handful dozen megs

[normal island]

Ah ye that'll do it

[green shale]

up to you. i don't like playing with mags but i acknowledge it's a well made mod

[normal island]

Still, crazy

Fun fact, all my 160+ guns are less than 4gbs zipped

[lethal steeple]

shit like that one mod that removes the flashlights from bas guns

[green shale]

anyway i'm a believer in putting up or shutting up hence i am learning to code or learning to bait another modder into doing shit for me

[lethal steeple]

which of course means the model has to be replaced with a new one

[harsh gull]

so whats the new M590A1 re animation look like?

[lethal steeple]

it's the spas anim

oh no that's a mossberg

idk

who made the mossbergs

[opaque moss]

soul

[green shale]

went back and rewatched and yes this is in fact the one i dislike

[normal island]

What if you could make your own modpack, with a group of other experienced modders in different areas, which's acronym means shit in spanish

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-talk-to-you-talking-nick-fury-gif-14228943

[green shale]

i already signed up for GammA Massive Ballache Anthology sorry

[lethal steeple]

ah i'm not really familiar with soul's style so idk

[normal island]

It's full of personality

Very soulful

https://tenor.com/view/frog-meme-gif-7596913242651313594

[opaque moss]

they are alright

[civic sage]

How tf do I rotate the furniture object? Like flip it upside down

[green shale]

turn on advanced placement mode, capslock to toggle surface alignment

[opaque moss]

I think it was one of his first animations so that adds up

[vital whale]

I see, the two you showed here so far I can see the appeal of. Once a gun has the scavenged parts (from looting or other guns) it is really simple to repair them once you understand HOW to actually do it, so making it a bit tougheris a nice appeal

[civic sage]

Ahhh, thanks

[vital whale]

The latter makes sense, though personally I never really bothered learning the specifics of ammo, since at least as far as I know, its Standard, Flesh and AP usually so its a bit self explanatory for basic players like me

[normal island]

If only there was a way to make a modpack in a way that you wouldn't need to have several different versions of the same file, only one of which is used at the end, therefore severely reducing the size of the modpack....

[lethal steeple]

i know right

it's a crazy proposition

[green shale]

to be clear this is like 1/10th of the direction i'd take the pack but you know you gotta start somewhere

[green shale]

it's more like "the entire ammo stat card is handwritten and wrong 95% of the time" at present

[vital whale]

When I read it, it feels like its trying to read off the back of the box of ammo rather than actual statistics

[green shale]

oh yeah while we're here and talking about ammo stats: i think the better way to display k_disp is to display the inverse as a %

because low fire_dispersion_base = higher accuracy, therefore displaying just k_disp is misleading since you want that number to be low

[lethal steeple]

in the stats mod i had it as "dispersion mod."

which it literally is

but that also makes it understandable why below 100% is desirable

[green shale]

yeah, which i understand, but i think it violates the "make all stats work on a bigger-is-better" scheme

[lethal steeple]

as it would mean dispersion is reduced

ah

[green shale]

you would have to expect the user to be able to understand that, for that one stat, you gotta flip your assumption

[lethal steeple]

nah it's fucked then unless you want to do divisions

[green shale]

yup 1/k_disp

[vital whale]

Oh yeah, is there a mod setting or a diff mod that changes a zone made food's radiation to % and not the mSv? everything else is the new % stuff besides that stat

[lethal steeple]

maybe inverse exponent multiplication is faster than division

[green shale]

ultimately i don't think it's actually that meaningful which is the ultimate conclusion i draw for most of the ammo stats

oh sure

[green shale]

oh lol

[lethal steeple]

try 1*(k_disp^-1)

[green shale]

yeah that's hand typed too

[sage schooner]

ah shit redone BS is a fight both ways

[green shale]

i will if i ever actually put it into my mod, rn it's just in the ammo stat spreadsheet i made where speed doesn't matter

[vital whale]

just always bugs me cuz im sitting there like "what do I eat and how much will it fuck me"

[green shale]

so everything that doesn't have the icon is hand written

[lethal steeple]

to be frank i don't think it really matters since the operation would run only when hovering over the item

[vital whale]

ye I get that, iirc the.. accurate stats mod was it?

is relatively newish (at least new to when I last downloaded GAMMA)

[green shale]

it fully isn't in gamma, the numerical value display is new though

[lethal steeple]

can't be the case since that mod has been around for over a year

[green shale]

and not the "accurate stats" mod which is a separate thing

[vital whale]

Ah my apologies

[vital whale]

I mean

Before I downloaded it this year it was at least... i can prob chck

[lethal steeple]

also

see this very conversation for why rads as a percentage is idiotic

[green shale]

anyway this is what i mean - everything above the yellow line is handwritten, not calculated dynamically from the item's actual stat values. If you wanted a mod that changed it to %, you'd first have to find someone who could figure out what the fuck GAMMA is doing with the % rad values (... good luck) and then encourage them to rewrite every consumable description

[lethal steeple]

you get totally valid questions like that

why is the food in msv when it should be in percentage

[vital whale]

i mean, it being a % isnt idiotic

[lethal steeple]

why dear player

[vital whale]

it just isnt fully encompased in everything

[lethal steeple]

illustrate the classroom

[green shale]

yeah that's the problem

[vital whale]

if for example the food had been updated alongside the base stat stuff

[green shale]

made a major change to one aspect of stat display, did not properly convert everything else that was dependent/assuming mSv

[vital whale]

it wouldnt be bad

[green shale]

there is also not an actual clear or easy-to-calculate formula for converting mSv -> % rads

[vital whale]

Which is why I assume it hasnt been done, or partially

[green shale]

so you'd have to invent whatever that is, first

[vital whale]

and I understand

[lethal steeple]

but there is one for estimating "in engine rads" to msv

and is standarized

[vital whale]

As long as the things in the end would end up matching and making sense, Id be fine with most things

[sick yoke]

unzips
zipbomb

[lethal steeple]

okay but what % is 750msv

when 100% rads res is nowhere close

and then you get to other questions like

does the food's rads get subtracted with my rads res

or

if i have 100% rads res would i not get irradiated from eating

[vital whale]

I do not know, which is why i just said what I said "As long as things in the end would end up matching and making sense" was a comment more towards the a "do whatever would make the statistics match" rather than a "hard focus %"

If th Rad% on eeveryhing else got returned to mSv id be fine too

[lethal steeple]

because 100% rads res is, universally understandable, full immunity

[green shale]

we can only hope

[lethal steeple]

there is not enough money in the world to convince me that somehow 100% res isn't immunity

[sick yoke]

consider uh

poe softcaps duh

[vital whale]

thats what I was gonna say, yes 100% would be immunity

but the game forces caps no?

[lethal steeple]

not on rads

[normal island]

120+ zipbombs

[lethal steeple]

which is why the ui gore that's on 0.9.3 has the "/ 65%" mark

right side of resistance numbers

that's your cap

rads isn't capped

not because it isn't listed as so in the ui

because it's not capped script side, nor engine side

which leads to a whole another plethora of questions

[vital whale]

because based on mSv and not % correct?

[lethal steeple]

what happens if i go above 100% rads res

[lethal steeple]

rads isn't a %

[celest sparrow]

What was even used as a base to get a %

[sick yoke]

the "120% rad res" moment

[lethal steeple]

like full stop

[sick yoke]

prayers

[lethal steeple]

finna check the scripts

[celest sparrow]

I just find the % for Rad stupid

[lethal steeple]

i'm not hoping the guy searched for the worst rads bubble to use that as a 100% theoretical

i fully expect a random value

[celest sparrow]

I doubt it

[vital whale]

You are mixing up what I am saying

I am saying % in reference to what the resistance and such is listing it as

not its literal value in the game

Hence, my question

It is based on mSv and not any sort of %

[lethal steeple]

it's winged

so it's not representative of like anything

it's the classic "it's good enough" when it couldn't be less good

[celest sparrow]

GAMMA being good as always

[green shale]

yup the whole game's rad system is designed around the fact that there's no upper bound, which a 0-100% scale implies

so you start to see why the "make it a %" system raises a lot of questions around how exactly you get the %. % of what?

[vital whale]

Makes sense, yes

Sounds like what would be preferred would a revert to mSv then

Unless someone wanted to somehow % everything

Which, if it hasnt been done by now

[lethal steeple]

yeah you tell me

[vital whale]

Prob wont

[lethal steeple]

i know all about that one

[sage schooner]

maybe the % is a normalized scale?

[green shale]

so since i am a believer in put up or shut up, fortunately, that mod exists
everyone else will simply suffer through whatever gamma defaults are

[sage schooner]

where 100 is the best protection you can get

[lethal steeple]

it isn't

[sage schooner]

which doesnt mean perfect protection

[lethal steeple]

because you can go above 100%

simple as

but yeah

[blissful ivy]

yeah you can go above 100%

[lethal steeple]

i'm also a put up or shut up dude but i'm not updating the stats mod

that'd be doing grok a favor

and he dug this one himself

because he just refused to listen over his ego wall

[blissful ivy]

100% is just an arbitrary value for you to look at like "hmm funny number "

[lethal steeple]

for the record chat i did try to help him during the development of 0.9.3

but he just didn't want to listen

[green shale]

personal sentiments aside yes the % standard is entirely arbitrary and it's not clear what the 100% number is

[blissful ivy]

honestly, just take it like this 100% = good

sure its harder to read

but tbh, its enough that i can half ass understand it

(mSv is better still)

[green shale]

problem is, and this is what the original concern is - what the fuck do you do for consumables that give you rads (like unpurified meals)?

[lethal steeple]

finna stand close to the car at the intersection near the barrier in the army warehouses with 100% rads and be vaporized

boutta use a lada as cover in the radar with 120% rads and be vaporized

ye that seems fine

i should be healing from that bitch

[celest sparrow]

yeah I saw

[green shale]

anyway to loop all the way back to teh beginning of this convo before the rads topic: i think there's a lot of scope in gamma to focus harder on the thing that i think is genuinely special about it, which would be the early phase of the game where you're entirely dependent on scavenging and fixing what you find

in my mind gamma should be made "harder" in that the player should be fighting tooth and nail for any material concessions. whereas at the moment you're pretty set the second you get your first type C repair kit

the second you have a green-barrel rifle the difficulty falls off a cliff as the ballistics system means everything human dies in 1-3 headshots

leaving mutants as the only appreciable bullet sinks but they are, let's be frank, unsatisfying enemies

[vital whale]

I found a green barrel SV98 in my current run, and it has indeed trivialized the game quite a bit

before when I had to sneak up on an enemy, I just pull out a scoped rifle and click

[green shale]

yeah and if you're lucky rng will deliver one to you in the opening hour

[vital whale]

and i havnt even done MM or BS

[green shale]

exaaactly

[vivid gorge]

can i somehow turn on the laser?

[oblique reef]

Hold L

[vivid gorge]

dayyum, thx

[celest sparrow]

The whole system as a whole just feels unsatisfying after fully understanding how to abuse it

[lethal steeple]

even if not trying to abuse it

[celest sparrow]

Which is what I like about https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1374132887040819361 which I really haven't found a way to abuse it, as the changes made give purpose to things that are typically ignored

[vital whale]

Just now, cleared out southern farmstead for CS. Sat in church tower with scoped rifle and clicked for a bit

[oblique reef]

I might give it a try

The no green barrels kinda makes me sad tho

[celest sparrow]

It honestly makes it better

[green shale]

well it gives you another reason to get excited about your scavenging level, since scav level slowly increases the maximum % at which you can find a barrel

[steel mauve]

theres 2 3 major things i want for gamma, npcs to be effected by gun part stats and non mutant npcs getting effected by anomalies
and finally, yuri

[green shale]

for the full CBT experience you can turn off scav scaling so that barrels never spawn above 60%

[celest sparrow]

I might just do that

[steel mauve]

oh and more uses for money

and a game mdoe that removes all friendly npcs

[green shale]

fyi the next things on my to-do for that mod is "jack up the prices for buying cleaning + repair kits" and "make crafting materials for both of those way easier to buy"

[oblique reef]

So just no green barrels whatsoever?

[green shale]

yup!

[green shale]

gives you a reason to want to buy them at techs

[celest sparrow]

Ah yes
The good ol "It's cheaper if you do it yourself"

[vital whale]

quite the list

[steel mauve]

realistically i dont think npcs effected by gun parts is realistic sadly

realistic

[green shale]

fun fact, it actually is currently cheaper to craft the crafting kits - it's just that the cost to buy them is so fuckin low there's no reason to do so, ever

plus the issue w/ input mats isn't price, it's availability

[oblique reef]

Yeah I don't mind a slight difficulty spike but goddamn that would be evil

[green shale]

good thing it's an MCM toggle that's on by default then

[oblique reef]

Green barrels makes brain go awooga

[green shale]

i was originally gonna insist on it being non toggleable (as in, always below 60% drops) but serious decided otherwise

[celest sparrow]

Yeah it's pretty cheap for 5 Charges

[steel mauve]

imagine if u actually had to hunt for food, npcs have less food/water on them to sell so you have to hunt mutants for food parts, and maybe some way to get water (zomboid like rain barrels? getting water from lakes and boiling the radiation away fallout style?) and maybe also more punishing sleep? so the game felt like an actual survival game

[green shale]

i did some maths and a type A cleaning kit costs 2940 for all the crafting mats (and you need basic tools obv), but buying it is only 3941 ru

[oblique reef]

Oh man, workbench costs files? This really does wanna be a CBT experience

[sage schooner]

hot take: traders should only sell basic parts for everything and nothing more, so no ammo, no repair kits etc.

[vapid cobalt]

gamma should add cia as a faction like UNISG but instead of doing secret black ops missions they fail audits and torture random stalkers

[steel mauve]

Trader gun parts should sell at 60% too

so theyre reparable just not green

and more expensive

[sage schooner]

NO PARTS

[steel mauve]

cause its like 9k max for a part

[green shale]

the old 12x scrap 12x wood recipe only has a sticker price of 2184, it was only ever gated by "does the player know where to find wooden scrap"

[steel mauve]

TRUE

[sage schooner]

you can buy basic materials and maybe food if im feeling nice

[vapid cobalt]

so basically you have to run away from anything until you get a gunsmithing kit?

[green shale]

unironically this is easier to implement for me than "only sells broken parts"

[oblique reef]

Yeah, that might break my immersion a lil. Black Market not existing in default and guns being illegal is bad enough, but having everything in the zone be disassembled is too silly

[sage schooner]

well you would need to change the item crafting a bit ig

[green shale]

but i actually want them to sell parts so that you have things you want to buy

[steel mauve]

really? wouldnt it both be tweaking the sell item? then again this is xray so everything is harder

[sage schooner]

NO MORE MONEY

you only get items from quests and you use them to barter

[steel mauve]

im at 54% sleep and its 9pm why cant i sleep!!!!!

[green shale]

so by default the game assumes everything should be sold at 100% condition, to reduce its % you have to make a script solution. whereas simply blacklisting items from sale is a (relatively easy for me) config edit

[steel mauve]

thats so stupid 😭

[oblique reef]

Sleep needs to be 43% iirc

[green shale]

anyway as it stands, gun maintenance is a complete afterthought, once you finish the upfront costs of fixing a gun, in gamma 0.9.3.1 you can basically forget about ongoing maintenance costs

[oblique reef]

This would make sense if Stalker was actually post apocalyptic, but the world outside the zone is normal

[sage schooner]

i mean fixing up a gun is really fucking easy as well, i started with jack shit and got an ak in like 1h

[green shale]

so i want to crank up part degradation as well as make cleaning kits more expensive to buy, but easier to make, so the tedious version is the efficient one, BUT you can use cash to shortcut it. this solves the other problem that you generally only spend money on ammo and drugs, and after a certain point, not even ammo

[steel mauve]

im gonna use unity ( 🤮 ) as an example but i use ot do something like this

#[SerialiseObject]
public InventoryItem{
  public ItemObject item;
  public int amount;
  public float durability;
}```

[celest sparrow]

New GAMMA lore
Everyone outside the zone is dead, insert UN reason here

[steel mauve]

if only xray was that easy

[steel mauve]

UN actually doing something in stalker AND tarkov god damn

[sage schooner]

im sure you can make it immersive somehow, like idk stalker 2 strelok ending, the zone is closed rn

[signal zephyr]

мы пришли вас рейдить

[steel mauve]

rust brain rot almost slipped into this

[signal zephyr]

бегите, глупцы

[steel mauve]

Mod organiser 2 (something) 1153 mods?

[green shale]

oh lol also development fun facts: I got veto'ed from making the portable workbench require a gunsmithing kit to craft

[oblique reef]

Just Metro lmao

[celest sparrow]