#πŸ”¨modded-gamma-support

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olive berry
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they are worse than what gamma has anyway

empty plover
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fixed

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thank you

woven thorn
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3D Shader Scopes for GAMMA BaS 22 Error: Bad request (400). Failed to automatically download from https://drive.google.com/file/d/10TlPGJLXOQh-kz7fNIX8zE0oLpxO9dM2/view?usp=drive_link 3D Shader Scopes No AK folding stocks Error: Bad request (400). Failed to automatically download from https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xC3HFzMQVSD35qmkG_78-PpqpL-fk4gT/view?usp=drive_link There were some problems in the automatic download for these addons
Google Docs
[2] 3DSS BaS 22 - 6.2.24.7z
Google Docs
[4] 3DSS No AK folding stocks - 6.3.24.7z
Manual installation does not change anything.
GAMMA EXT

olive berry
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Or rather EXT version of whatever mod you are installing

vast raven
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Does Anyone knows why reshades presets wont appear in game for me, i have capa in bin folder but it wont appear in reshade menu

olive berry
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in that folder?

vast raven
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wtf

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why DX

haughty loom
severe mountain
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So, I reset the mod list by just reinstalling/updating and no dice

olive berry
rocky flare
quiet tangleBOT
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@rocky flare Mods under the G.A.M.M.A Disabled category and ALSO other disabled mods that aren't under this category, are disabled for a variety of reasons: compatibility, performance, bugs, busy hands, etc.
DO NOT ENABLE THEM. SERIOUSLY. DON'T.
(If you don't know what "busy hands" is, type !busyhands in #πŸ€–bot-commands)

What about animations? Can I enable them?

DO NOT ENABLE ANIMATIONS THAT ARE DISABLED BY DEFAULT, IN MCM IN GAME OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE MOD LIST.
They are disabled for the same reasons written above.

Why do we have these mods in the mod list if we can't activate them?

Because G.A.M.M.A. is STILL IN BETA.
NO, Grok can't simply remove these mods. Version 1.0 will have a clean mod list.

If you really want to use stuff that is disabled by default, forget about #πŸ”¨base-gamma-support, use #πŸ”¨modded-gamma-support instead.

deft snow
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mags redux and ugp. My game works just fine, but crashes when I move locations

wheat vine
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Idk where this came from

wheat vine
wheat vine
silent rock
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hey, im currently deleting duplicate files and scanned my gamma and anomaly folders and see alot of duplicates, is it fine if i remove these or are they necessary for the game(im assuming this is the right place for this question)

olive berry
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ask yourself that

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dont do this useless stuff

silent rock
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i did recently factory reset and kept all my folders then reinstalled gamma and i was clearing up storage and noticed that i was using alot more storage but idk ill reinstall if i messed everything up

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but thanks πŸ™ i was jus tryna clear up storage

idle nimbus
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Is there an install guide for Arrival on Discord here?, or are the instructions from the Moddb page good enough?.

halcyon ore
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played the game for a few minute crashed to my desktop and then i get a bluescreen of fatal error on my laptop please help!!

small linden
distant lintel
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from additional mods: EGUI + animation of items
at zaton the technician always asks for tools for calibration? for the sake of interest I brought him already three pieces, but these requests still do not end

celest canopy
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!changegoodwill

quiet tangleBOT
smoky goblet
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is this normal?

deft snow
proud lichen
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i tried everything and its still not 2.5

karmic tiger
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Well, don't update it, lol
2.5.0 is needed to mod Starfield

proud lichen
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ohh, so everything is alright as is?

karmic tiger
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Yes

fossil igloo
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Hello, the game crashes when teleporting to locations from the new levels addon, has anyone encountered this problem, did you find a solution?

carmine saddle
balmy geyser
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ive been getting this error, does anybody know how to fix this, it happened after i put a helmet on

balmy geyser
exotic hawk
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why are poster just full white?

north elbow
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Just installed UGP with the patch

tropic kite
north elbow
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I installed the Mags Redux 2024 but it keeps crashing for some reason

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All mag related stuff are like this

karmic tiger
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Hey look at that, it's placed wrong

tropic kite
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And make sure you're using the fixes for 2024 mags, not GAMMA mags

karmic tiger
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That's the one I linked bedge

tropic kite
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I figured... But you never know

karmic tiger
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Eh, fair nuff
🀝

wheat vine
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how am i gonna add an imagery to posters

north elbow
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Damn, you guys are doing God's work in here, ty so much for the help. Have an awesome day brothers

halcyon ore
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played the game for a few minute crashed to my desktop and then i get a bluescreen of fatal error on my laptop please help!!

karmic tiger
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Keep it .dds

karmic tiger
halcyon ore
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this i hardware issue right?

halcyon ore
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it happens so randomly

karmic tiger
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I -think-
You're playing on DX8, right?

halcyon ore
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dx9, the dx8 lighting just makes the game unseeable at night

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i played dx9 last time no problem

karmic tiger
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Ah, well
I think your laptop might not be a fan of the performance load keksweat
Truly can't tell you much here

halcyon ore
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aw crap

karmic tiger
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Luck of the draw, some guy just a while ago was playing just fine on DX11 on a laptop iGPU loldeepfried

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Until he couldn't

halcyon ore
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just that next day it will return back normal and then a few hours later the problem came back

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just so inconsistent 😦

haughty loom
# olive berry 19MB log? what the fuck

Yes it took forever to get the task system to crash, lemme know if theres anything I can do to get more info on this. I've had it crash twice doing completely different things.

  1. Turning in a bunch of fetch quests at once, it was like 7 of them
  2. Dissembling clothes after taking south eastern village from renegades in Last Dawn
obtuse crystal
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i'm having problems with improved beefs

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water is also extra shiny

summer dagger
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Any idea which mod gives animations for mag check? It worked at some point with Mag Redux, Ishmael Ammo check, and One key reload/check. When I checked ammo for PPsh it just did reload animation, but now after reinstall it just hides weapon below waist and takes it back. Busy Hand fix is off, and it works for some of the weapons, but It was more before. Any ideas, or anyone who managed to make it work?

olive berry
quiet tangleBOT
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@obtuse crystal To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

olive berry
obtuse crystal
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idk whats wrong with it

summer dagger
north elbow
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I think this is the same error I got on the other day, and someone told me to install the '' Stealth '' mod, and I did, and that mod fucking sucks, cause all the NPCs go basically blind, so I uninstalled it. Is there any other fix to this?

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Cause I've been getting this since I fresh installed Gamma, so its weird

olive berry
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if hte gun works - you dont need to do anything

summer dagger
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I get it and this maybe a hill not worth fighting for, but just friday I was able to check mag in sam pistols with animation and now it is just rehiding weapon on most of the vanilla weapons and its driving me crazy because I know its somewhere there peepoweird

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Also have one more quiestion I posted on shaders but maybe here is a better place:
Does SSS works with reshades turned on? ADOF (Quint) is the only DOF working properly, nothin in SSS options changes anything, I know most people hate DOF but I would really like to have it on reload, pda or in equipment and it seems it just doesnt work?

north elbow
olive berry
olive berry
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reshade is applied after eveyrthing in game is applied

keen shadow
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will crcr(chernobyl relay chat rebirth) mod break gamma? or does it work without dying?

olive berry
keen shadow
north elbow
olive berry
quiet tangleBOT
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@north elbow Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

golden cobalt
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when I launch the game with the 12 ram mod the game instantly crashes and gives me this error I have UGB installed can someone help me ? thank you

fallow oriole
severe mountain
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Anything else I could try or do I need to clean install?

patent stream
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crashed once on attempting to load and again attempting to edit resolution

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might be because i had demonized death animations on

quiet tangleBOT
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@patent stream To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

quiet tangleBOT
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@patent stream
If you crash upon changing your resolution in game, you can change it before launching the game. In Anomaly/appdata/user.ltx look for the vid_mode line and change it to the resolution you like.

patent stream
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ty, ty

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ok so now it's crashing on load, complaining about heat vision and g_ssr_quality

olive berry
severe mountain
# olive berry idk if that would help

A clean install seems to have fixed it. Turns out a fresh ltx would have fixed it if i hadn't unbound the quick tasks hotkey 'J' from MCM. So ig if someone else has the issue there we go, thanks anyway for the suggestions

trim sail
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Hello noobs i have question. If I play with Story Mode but I disable the SIN faction e.g. via the ZCP option in the MCM menu, what will happen as i carry on in the story?

tropic kite
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you just will never see them wandering around

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(depriving yourself of a source of high-tier weaponry)

wheat vine
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I got this error from changing sss and atmos settings in mo2

real gyro
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so just updated my gamma install and my regular gamma mod list is working just find but i had an INVERNO list working just fine prior to updating and now i get shader compilation failed when either loading save or starting a new game

vast raven
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!crash

quiet tangleBOT
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@vast raven, send the log to the chat where you were asked for it.
Open your Anomaly/appdata/logs folder and send your xray_[username] text file (.log) here. (image for reference below)

Note: log file is overwritten on each game launch, send it right after the crash _ _||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1206834462411722782/log.png

craggy venture
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Hey, quick question: does GAMMA come with Aoldri's Universal Animation Scripts and BAS for scopes and lazers installed?

neon pecan
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please help with the problem. I play on a standard build, optimization mods and confirmation of the transition to the location are turned off. When moving to a bar from a neighboring territory, the game loads, but after 1 second a crash occurs; everything works fine in other locations

Description - unidentified error

deft snow
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Anyone know how to get mags redux working with ugp

tacit cliff
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do you know how to add hd models? like which pack to use and how to install? reminder, i dont want to erase my current save. any help would be appreciated

wheat vine
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i got this while saving and buying a guide

tacit cliff
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could you help me?

wheat vine
tacit cliff
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thank you

wheat vine
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which hd models are you trying to use

tacit cliff
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i don't know

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any would work

wheat vine
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I use kvmas

tacit cliff
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does that require you to start a new game?

heady basin
wheat vine
pale zodiac
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hi, so i just reinstall shader and im stuck with this... pew second later it turn off by it own and i cant get into the game pls help

wheat vine
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so that wont work

tacit cliff
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oh

deft snow
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could someone please help with this? UGP and mags redux, works fine until I go to the bar, where I keep getting this message

wheat vine
opal crystal
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trying to play lost to the zone directors cut with hd models

tacit cliff
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anyone else know any good hd model packs for gamma (that dont require you to have fresh copy of game without saves)

paper sand
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CAN Some one tell me the fix for this ?

tacit cliff
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check for conflicts in mo2

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and try to fix them

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gl man

paper sand
paper sand
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for this

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any helper

bold forge
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some point

wheat vine
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got this when i saved or bought a guide

viscid agate
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Where does the game store ur username for autosaves name? i changed my username on pc but that didnt change the autosaves names, its still giving me the old one there

smoky goblet
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is he supposed to be holding the gun like this?

steel herald
rare junco
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Can anyone with the warfare GAMMA mod screenshot the default settings preset?

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I messed with it and need to know what the default is set to.

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The one under "DON'T USE"

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I'm simply trying to figure out how to lessen the amount of NPCs spawning, it's lagging my game.

cedar frigate
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get this when trynna put on armor

fossil gull
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how do i disable the mod that disables the ability to buy guns from stores?

daring lodge
quiet tangleBOT
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@fossil gull
If you want to be able to buy weapons and armor (without completely breaking the economy), enable this mod:
340 - Black Market (Buyable Gear) - SalamanderAnder & nox
More about this mod in here: #β•­πŸ“–faq message

fossil gull
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cheers bro

daring lodge
# steel herald crash

is it a consistent crash or just random?
no one knows what causes 1087 but it kinda just happens, its a "safe" crash so its good to just keep moving along

if its consistent or annoyingly frequent, you can try turning off read-only for your anomaly folder, its worked for me but lacks overall testing

wheat vine
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hola gente alguien ha instalado el atmos para el gama

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Hello people, has anyone installed the atmospheric for the gamma? I would need help, I don't know much English.

unborn ravine
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hope this is the right place for it but anyone know what mags the ADAR-12 uses if playing with mags redux? it doesnt seem to take standard 5.56 STANAG mags

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ADAR 2-15*

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NVM figured it out, for some reason the gun doesn't use mags at all, it loads straight from you ammo instead, even with mags redux on.

balmy quest
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Hi! My walking sound is laterally running sound but quieter. Any suggestions how to fix it?

fossil gull
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how do i make it so i can only save at campfires?

balmy quest
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yo! the legs of shadow of my character are moving faster than I actually am!

dire pulsar
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How can i solve this ? It`s happening when changing maps

fossil gull
paper sand
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please help with this

quiet tangleBOT
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@dire pulsar, we don't exactly know the reason for this error, but it is a random and regular one, please keep calm and carry on with your game.
Maybe in the future we'll find why it happens, but it's harmless otherwise.vodka

paper sand
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i have been using #1082678099294048330 profile for the reshade and weather and was using the Kvmas And UGP with THat and BHSRO because of my Old Save which i was playing with Vanilla Gamma but after installing all that 3 mods correctly my game is crashing and giving me that error when i am trying to load my old save and i havent tried to start the new game as well just to check or i can do just now if that's the Issue

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this error

vagrant lance
# paper sand this error

i don't exactly know how to fix this apart from !shader (which you already did) but.. when i had this issue recently swapping out user.ltx proved helpful

go into Anomaly/Appdata and make a backup of your current user.ltx (controls, graphics settings etc), place it somewhere safe so it doesn't get lost
then go to GAMMA/Grok's Modpack Installer/Modpack_patches/Appdata, copy the default user.ltx from that folder and paste it in Anomaly/Appdata

doesn't hurt to check and it might fix it, if it doesn't then you can replace the default user.ltx with your custom one

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also for EXP you did disable those two mods right?

paper sand
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yes it is diabled

vagrant lance
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okay, try the user.ltx method then
maybe some setting you had enabled messes it up and causes the shader issue

karmic tiger
paper sand
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because i am using this profile

vagrant lance
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keep everything in mo2 as is just swap out the user.ltx files and see if it launches

but out of the mods you are using i suspect EXP is causing this whole issue since it modifies graphics related stuff

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also why is there like 50 EXP mods for GAMMA KekSkew

paper sand
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trying

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not fixed same error still

vagrant lance
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what about changing to a regular profile that doesn't have EXP enabled
does that launch normally?

vagrant lance
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and you don't get any shader compilation errors yes?

paper sand
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nope not getting any error in vanilla gamma

vagrant lance
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maybe the install process went wrong or something shrug

paper sand
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okay

viscid agate
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This pops up when i try to check PDAs for stashes

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Whats causing this?

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for PDAs i got the interactive PDA mod but thats closest i got for anything that might be doing that

viscid agate
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i keep getting crashes with the same error when i gain a stash from any source, is this related to the new maps mod?

hardy delta
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Hello has anybody ever tried the LTTZ : DC mod with Gamma

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Does it work properly??

viscid agate
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Now I got crashes at Dark Valley whenever I kill a guy called Olivious or whatever. Is there a fix for that?

pliant flint
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hi, guys. Addon Toxic air is worked on gamma?

tropic kite
fringe vine
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Okay so since I have added a few optional mods, im gonna have to ask here, but whenever I enter Rostok I get the busyhands bug, any ideas?

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But

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The crash only triggers on quicksave

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Or save for that matter

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Only way I can tell its the busyhands is because of the blurry PDA

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It also doesnt send a crash message

faint surge
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is there a better way to install all of these instead of clicking 1 by 1

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holding ctrl while clicking doesnt work

outer relic
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was there any keybind to change reticle on some of the scopes?

olive berry
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Not by default

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Its a separate mod

outer relic
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i have to enable it or download?

olive berry
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Download mark switch. Though iirc it works for a small amount of weapons

outer relic
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thanks a lot!

summer dagger
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Any idea how to replace single texture? Im looking just for Asphalt from ZR without rest of the mod

static relic
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what would cause SURGE RUSH error just asking..

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Accurate stats?
MCM values?

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
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@fringe vine "Busyhands" is the name of a bug that softlocks your game by preventing you from performing basic game functions. Common signs include:

  • Broken health HUD (all red)
  • Can't do any animated actions (use meds, eat food)
  • Crashing on area transition
  • Can't open inventory
    If you have it, reload an older save. Eventually this may not work any more, you'll be in permanent busyhands, then it's time to start a new game. Read more here: #β•­πŸ“–faq message
tropic kite
tropic kite
fringe vine
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Thank you

viscid agate
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everything was working fine for days, the problem with getting new stashes only start happening after i visited rostok, so i assume it might have something to do with the new levels mod, since the more up north i go the more north the stashes that i get are, so maybe it just didnt work right with the new maps? also i have the Immersive pda mod installed but im not sure if thats conflicting. never had issues with getting stash locations before

fringe vine
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Ive been trying on my own for a bit and havent figured it out

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I installed it via mod organizer and i cant find it anywhere

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In game

tropic kite
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that's it. you install it and just wait for it to crash you out.

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you don't interact with it.

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read its moddb description for more details

tropic kite
viscid agate
tropic kite
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you are literally experiencing the way in which they are incompatible, right now.

viscid agate
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i see

tropic kite
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"not compatible" doesn't always mean "crashes instantly"

viscid agate
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so i cant get stashes in the new levels then?

tropic kite
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new levels is not compatible with RF Receivers. disable one or the other and start a new game.

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rf receivers is in vanilla gamma.

viscid agate
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anyway to fix it somehow? or make it so there arent any stashes on new levels? cause i have no interest in starting over

fringe vine
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Me want info grr

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But yeah thank you

viscid agate
tropic kite
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that is quite literally what it would take.

mellow moon
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How do I enable the longer (asnens) cig animation in fdda so it doesnt break

tropic kite
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you cannot remove mods that add new content, like rf recievers OR new levels, mid playthrough

tropic kite
mellow moon
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when i enabled it the cigarrete was playing the longer animation but the hand was doing the shorter one

tropic kite
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crack open both mods' script files, see how they work, patch the stash location list from RF Receivers to include levels from New Levels

viscid agate
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hmm ok

tropic kite
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good luck

viscid agate
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cool thanks

tropic kite
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god speed, if you do make the patch it'd be handy for the droves of people who keep asking about new levels

tropic kite
viscid agate
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i see. well i have experience with this kind of thing so i doubt im gonna make anything others can use but ill see if i can fix it later on

fringe vine
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Time to read the logs and try and make sense of them if this doesnt work

tropic kite
fringe vine
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True, apologies

tropic kite
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no need you're good lol

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gl pinning it down, the bh watchdog is good but not 100% flawless

fringe vine
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I fast travelled to Rostok from a much much earlier save and the problem didnt occur so I will send an update later but I hope just starting about 4 hours behind will fix it

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If I send no update, I wish you a good day or evening and thank you :)

tired dawn
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Hey, anyone use Warfare A-Life Overhaul? Awesome addon. I can't find any escort-ready/companion-ready NPCs though. Is this intentional/unintentional effect of the mod or did I miss something?

olive berry
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Ask mod developer or people who play with that. Warfare is not popular here at all

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Most likely you won't get an answer

vivid gale
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Mega help needed. Randomly when I'm travelling between zones the game will crash hard, but when I reload there's nothing clearly stating what happened in the crash log, and my entire list in Modorganizer is completely unchecked. Any possible fix or reason for this problem??

tropic kite
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stuff in the game generally doesn't affect mod organizer. i suspect you have more than one issue causing your problems.

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
tropic kite
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if not, the best you can do is reset to GAMMA default, and then make a custom modlist

ornate cobalt
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After GAMMA update i cant load my old saves. New game tho working fine

"The instruction at address 0x0000000001406755CC accessed memory at address 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. The memory cannot be read.

β€œOK” -- application termination"

tropic kite
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that type of error is functionally useless for a human to read

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sometimes it happens if you disabled a mod that added new items, mid-playthrough. so go doublecheck your load order

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otherwise, new game time

ornate cobalt
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ok, thanks

olive berry
ornate cobalt
tropic kite
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yeap. you also can't roll back updates.

olive berry
tropic kite
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and moddb'd

ornate cobalt
#

thats even worse Concerned

drowsy thicket
#

anyone know how the winter mod is called?

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
vivid gale
viral socket
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So I'm getting shader compilation errors now after fucking around in the settings for graphics - and resetting graphics settings and deleting shader cache isn't solving it

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What do?

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Starting it in DX 10 fixed it

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But DX11 no longer works

prime wyvern
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can any on help my game keep crashing

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
tropic kite
prime wyvern
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i got it

viral socket
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Well shit it doesn't work at all guess it's broken now

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proceeds to tear out own hair

viral socket
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A bunch of graphics settings - don't remember all of them

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And resetting them didn't fix it

tropic kite
#

what method did you use to reset?

viral socket
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Clicked on the reset graphics button in the launcher, and the reset user.ltx button in the launcher

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
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@viral socket
To bring your mod list, settings and keybinds back to default, inverting any changes made by you:

  1. Open the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher with admin rights
  2. Uncheck every box EXCEPT Delete Reshade DLLs
  3. Click on Install / Update G.A.M.M.A

Note: If you wish to keep your keybinds and graphical settings, go to Anomaly\appdata and backup user.ltx.

viral socket
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Ah gotcha

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Thanks!

tropic kite
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well... thank me if it works

viral socket
tropic kite
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won't load?

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that can happen if you had mods that added items like mags redux

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or new npc models

viral socket
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It's kinda weird because I'd assume it would fix the graphics settings that screwed it up

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But oh well, guess it's GAMMA break time

visual escarp
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I was loading Into yantar from wild territory and i alt tabbed it popped up after 10 seconds

olive schooner
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string expected

visual escarp
#

what

quiet tangleBOT
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@visual escarp, we don't exactly know the reason for this error, but it is a random and regular one, please keep calm and carry on with your game.
Maybe in the future we'll find why it happens, but it's harmless otherwise.vodka

vagrant lance
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it's like the most common crash of GAMMA atm

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and it's hard to track what causes it

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otherwise it'd be fixed a while ago

visual escarp
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i mean i had it several times and i was just wondering

vagrant lance
#

it's nothing you did that caused it, don't worry

deft snow
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Game crashing when I move to rostok. UGP and mags redux, any idea why?

olive berry
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install guide is in the channel

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Dry proved that UGP works just fine with mags

runic plinth
#

i'm having this problem now :t

fallen obsidian
#

What causes this busyhands crash? No idea what tasks_guide script means

burnt nymph
#

If I understand correctly, if added mods don't overwrite anything it should be safe to install, right? (unless they fk up smt themselves)

trim sail
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AYO anyone know how to add back the feature where you can buy all ammo types?? why do i have to get a certain trader level just to get 5.45 ammo

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
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@fallen obsidian Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

tropic kite
cloud ocean
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When I'm moving GAMMA to another drive, the mods not included in GAMMA can I have as a backup and then copy them over to the new GAMMA installation on the other drive?

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
tropic kite
#

then that moves ALL your mods, including the stuff you installed.

cloud ocean
#

Don't you have to delete the mods folder though?

fallen obsidian
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It looks like it's caused by the guide tasks fix mod so I'll have to find the author for that then

tropic kite
#

thankfully it's written into the title of the mod in gamma

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and you can right click the mod -> visit on moddb.

fallen obsidian
tiny nest
#

can you tell me how to solve the problem?

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
#

@tiny nest

Ask in here if you're using disabled mods in the mod list and extra stuff you added.

Make sure to say what you have enabled/disabled/added, we can't read your mind, posting a crash log without saying what you did or what you added is stupid and it doesn't help you or us.

tiny nest
open meadow
#

@tiny nest type in THAP in the searchbar & screenshot it & post it here like this

subtle rain
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[error]Expression : I
[error]Function : CInifile::Load::<lambda_b21972fd654150f2564380962c2860ba>::()::<lambda_ae9672ccf261fc20218abd7f260ca724>::operator ()
[error]File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrCore\Xr_ini.cpp
[error]Line : 350
[error]Description : Can't find include file:
[error]Arguments : presets\blackmarket_trade_presets.ltx

Does anyone has seen this? It happens when I try to go from Cordon to the Great Swamps.

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And I'm not using the Black Marked mod...

autumn stream
#

MAGS redux + shineawrys mag fixes not working? This is the error

left falcon
autumn stream
#

not sure

left falcon
left falcon
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also , if i'm untick old mags i will have the same error

autumn stream
#

where should shines+awrys supposed to be placed?

left falcon
#

ok i'm stupid, just realized that i put it above

left falcon
autumn stream
#

well then everythings still broke might just do a fresh install or smth at this rate

stoic widget
#

anyone have the hd models guide?

vocal fog
#

hello quick question. I have this bug or problem that whenever I change ( for example ) my HUD FOV to 65 lets say, after I go switch to another area or any loading screen it goes back to a random number. How can I fix this? It is so annoying.

tidal arch
#

Anyone know what may cause this?

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This is my modlist of non gamma mods

craggy venture
tidal arch
craggy venture
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a few

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not sure if any affect the AS VAL

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should i send a list?

tidal arch
#

I wouldnt know but maybe you could disable some then test the animations to see if any of those are doing it

craggy venture
#

Alr

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i feel like its just a missing animation in this case

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is the AS VAL part of EFP?

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or maybe GAMMA?

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or neither?

tidal arch
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I think its always been in stalker

craggy venture
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alr then

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ill go ahead and ask the internet

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XD

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well this technically is the internet

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but like reddit or smth

keen beacon
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Errr.. happens everytime i try to go into the great swamps.

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List of mods i'm using on-top of gamma.

deft snow
steel verge
#

quick question, does anybody know what is causing the cz-75 and cz-52s to not show up in game but remain in the trade profiles?

viscid agate
#

where do i find the RF receiver script files? or what is the mod called in the modlist?

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Somebody said to do this to fix an error when i get stashes with the new level Mod installed "crack open both mods' script files, see how they work, patch the stash location list from RF Receivers to include levels from New Levels"

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is anyone able to assist me with that? or how do i even do it?

tidal arch
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Anyone know what may cause this?

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This is my modlist of non gamma mods

craggy venture
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The animations for the gun don't play, but I'm not sure why. Any idea what happened?

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No error message either. Just does this and remains playable

inner sequoia
#

also maybe @karmic tiger I followed the FAQ instructions and game is working with Mags Redux included in this modlist, but I'd like to avoid the issue you are responding to here by installing the latest Mags Redux from github. However I don't know what options in the FOMOD would be appropriate for this modlist, and the Mags Redux included with G.A.M.M.A. looks like it might be a custom repack, so I'm a bit wary that other tweaks might be needed. Could you possibly describe which data files are necessary for the "latest" installation? I think I understand the part about forwarding the patches afterward

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
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@inner sequoia Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

tropic kite
#

i do not use magazines

inner sequoia
# tropic kite !mo2search // you can search the modpack for the mentioned mods

So I did that, but this modlist changes so much I don't know if a mod is being used under a different name or if mods have changed significantly to the point that the patch in Mags is unnecessary; for instance I'm pretty sure Ammo Check isn't supposed to be turned on in the FOMOD? Thanks for the input though, you don't use magazines but you helped troubleshoot it?

tropic kite
tropic kite
inner sequoia
#

Pretty Pepegas Pistols PPP is the only one I couldn't find in G.A.M.M.A. list, but I did see Pretty Pistols which was close enough I was unsure if they were meant to be the same thing, just renamed lol

tropic kite
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PPP is "pretty pistol pack"

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it's in gamma.

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i mention that i don't use magazines to plainly say: i do not enjoy doing magazine support.

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i do it extremely fucking reluctantly and only because it is possibly the most highly used custom mod.

inner sequoia
mortal stag
#

is this a good channel to have my crash log interpreted for me? dumb

severe mountain
#

Anyone know a fix to stop backpack randomly dropping, seems to happen when shooting. I don't have the MCM keybind to drop items with 'shift' bound so it shouldn't be that

warm ridge
#

help

karmic tiger
karmic tiger
# warm ridge

Don't use prefetchers with UGP or rewrite the prefetcher to exclude that asset

warm ridge
#

Thank you so much

keen beacon
#

Sorry not the same issue.*

onyx flicker
#

same issue here, I have UGP, KVMAS and INVERNO

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This is happening everytime I leave Dead City through the tunnel to Army Warehouses

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I also have Arrival, Thermal Goggles, TCO Weapon pack, and Enhanced GUI

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Also this has just started to happen, I used the same tunnel before as well without any issues

karmic tiger
keen beacon
karmic tiger
#

And here I was hoping "wouldn't it be funny if it was just UGP that causes 61 assertion failed"

karmic tiger
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No, I was just hoping for a common mod between you two

onyx flicker
keen beacon
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guh

karmic tiger
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So far, all you've got in common is HD Models and KVMAS which change out NPC models

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thonk
So maybe they weren't installed right, idk.
Make sure you've disabled all the mods they demand you disable

onyx flicker
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nah I don't have HD models

keen beacon
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I had KVMAS before installing HD models & i ran a bit of stuff for like half a day. No crashes.

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So it may be HD models.

onyx flicker
karmic tiger
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Right, well let's walk through KVMAS installation

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You didn't mark options marked with the same number, right?

onyx flicker
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No i don't think so

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Do you want me to reinstall it ?

karmic tiger
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Yeah, take the same options as you did before and take a screenshot of the window

onyx flicker
#

alright, gimme a sec

onyx flicker
karmic tiger
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Probably not

onyx flicker
#

😨

karmic tiger
#

But if you're not too far in, an experimental new game probably would help test it

onyx flicker
#

why'd they remove the kvmas guide ?

edgy umbra
#

tried to load in to jupiter but game crashed and got this error (the only mod i have added is ui rework sota)

onyx flicker
#

I remember there used to be one

quiet tangleBOT
#

@edgy umbra, we don't exactly know the reason for this error, but it is a random and regular one, please keep calm and carry on with your game.
Maybe in the future we'll find why it happens, but it's harmless otherwise.vodka

silk river
onyx flicker
#

@karmic tiger

karmic tiger
onyx flicker
#

are these options fine ?

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I've added a few

karmic tiger
#

And get the pinned mod instead, in KVMAS

onyx flicker
#

alright

onyx flicker
karmic tiger
#

Ye

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And then read through the how to install in the mod archive

#

To properly enable (04)

onyx flicker
#

Alright

jade pagoda
#

i just got this crash when i tried to vault in cordon at the train tracks with the broken bridge

onyx flicker
#

@karmic tiger it seems to be fixed, thanks !

karmic tiger
#

Now I guess I go figure out (write a ru guide for) HD Models too

hybrid cradle
#

@royal python I don't know what's really causing them to fall behind now, again it was working before this

royal python
hybrid cradle
#

I guess disabling and re-enabling it worked. With it disabled, my companion was 42 meters away, and then with it back on she was half that distance from me

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Now to head to Army Warehouses to see if it actually works

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She seems to still lag behind a little bit though

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Ugh whatever, I can just teleport my companions

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Clearer picture of my companions running. I assume this is still their regular sprinting animations?

wraith marsh
#

My UMP sights are misaligned. Other guns are fine. Could anything in here be causing this? !reddot has already been tried.

tiny zinc
wraith marsh
edgy umbra
#

for some reason when i entered jupiter my pda notification sound effect started stuttering alot, tried reopening save but still (only mod is ui rework sota) https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/i2VQpu6Hz1FRaYHv1/d1337TREnZG3?invite=cr-MSxRcXQsMjI4MTUwMTY5LA

Watch notif wonky and millions of other S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly videos on Medal, the largest Game Clip Platform.

β–Ά Play video
copper snow
#

is there a way to keep mags redux mags in the loadout ? , every time i load the mag get removed from from loadout and i have to manually add it again

keen beacon
copper snow
trail bolt
#

Anyone know anything about this?

mellow moon
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Does gamma work with the new levels mod?

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If any1 knows

distant lintel
wheat vine
#

@trail bolt yes , yesterdays , idk why no solves for me

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Hello , i have this after a fresh admin update

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so i can update manualy in reinstall the mod but after that crash

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someone have the sames issue ?

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and when i try to launch my last saves or and news game this crash

karmic tiger
quiet tangleBOT
#

@trail bolt
Have you updated your launcher to V6?
The launcher is updated if:
1) in [YOUR GAMMA FOLDER\.Grok's Modpack Installer\resources] the same folder and file structure as in the screenshot below.
2) the launcher shows version 6.0.0.0.

Otherwise, update here - #πŸ€–bot-commands by writing !v6.
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wheat vine
#

@trail bolt Issue solved , ty for the help . ,)

tropic kite
steady cairn
#

Expression : <no expression>
Function : CScriptEngine::lua_pcall_failed
File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrServerEntities\script_engine.cpp
Line : 262
Description : fatal error
Arguments :
1 : [Lua] ...er anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\take_item_anim.script(38) : func_or_userdata

LUA error: ...er anomaly/bin/..\gamedata\scripts\take_item_anim.script:38: attempt to compare string with number

Check log for details

stack trace:

Any ideas?

quiet tangleBOT
#

@steady cairn Mods under the G.A.M.M.A Disabled category and ALSO other disabled mods that aren't under this category, are disabled for a variety of reasons: compatibility, performance, bugs, busy hands, etc.
DO NOT ENABLE THEM. SERIOUSLY. DON'T.
(If you don't know what "busy hands" is, type !busyhands in #πŸ€–bot-commands)

What about animations? Can I enable them?

DO NOT ENABLE ANIMATIONS THAT ARE DISABLED BY DEFAULT, IN MCM IN GAME OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE MOD LIST.
They are disabled for the same reasons written above.

Why do we have these mods in the mod list if we can't activate them?

Because G.A.M.M.A. is STILL IN BETA.
NO, Grok can't simply remove these mods. Version 1.0 will have a clean mod list.

If you really want to use stuff that is disabled by default, forget about #πŸ”¨base-gamma-support, use #πŸ”¨modded-gamma-support instead.

tropic kite
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specifically don't use gamma fdda rework.

steady cairn
#

alright thanks

subtle rain
#

Hi. Did you find what was wrong?

karmic tiger
quiet tangleBOT
#

@olive berry
Crash on putting an artefact in container? Crash on using sleeping bag?

TURN FDDA ANIMATIONS OFF. KEEP ONLY DEFAULT ONES ON.

tribal plover
#

every time i rightclick on the pda i get this error

tropic kite
tribal plover
tropic kite
#

anything that you disabled or changed significantly?

tribal plover
#

i also readded reshade and mags redux but taht should be it

hollow epoch
#

pretty sure i fucked something up...

tropic kite
#

ok. can't help you since i have 0 familiarity with alife overhaul and don't know how/if it would interact with the fast travel script(s).

hollow epoch
stone pebble
#

Heyy, i want to install these graphics mods in my base gamma, anyone knows if any of them cause some kind of issue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNFxq_fOvrg&t=709s

tropic kite
#

it's even in the video description.

For Gamma Users: You will already have some of the mods but if you donΒ΄t know how to update EXES, reshade and install mods in MO2 (Which is the only thing you need to do, then see the EFP video as well and simply dont install what you already have.

#

for the ones that are not in gamma, find their threads in #1035807043933720576 and read their pinned messages for install steps

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read the warnings, especially

solid phoenix
#

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/drunks-extreme-instrument-galore
is this mod already included in GAMMA under a different name? when I enable it, "More GAMMA guitar tracks" shows as obsolete

ModDB

Adds hundreds of new guitar and harmonica tracks to the instruments that NPCs can play, all tastefully selected, cleaned, and implemented for your bonfire pleasure. This mod is built upon previous harmonica and guitar mods, which means songs from those...

tropic kite
#

it probably overwrites all files provided by "More GAMMA Guitar Tracks"

wheat vine
#

100gb of a shitty modded game that crashes 50 times before you can even play it, wtf is wrong with you. if youre going to mod a game make it work fucking losers

mint pasture
#

Someone didn't take their meds today

#

Let mommy know you need help opening the bottles

solid phoenix
finite thorn
#

any solution for smoke granades instantly crashing the game?

tropic kite
vivid sand
cedar anchor
#

@proper dagger

cedar anchor
#

crazy

#

can u just help or nah

proper dagger
#

yes, have fun waiting on someone who's interested in fixing modded modlist.
I only do base

cedar anchor
#

my game crashed randomly in dark vally

spice kelp
#

Getting this error which didn't used to get before, updated UGP and am using the reamnination files as well as RWAP additions and 3DSS scopes by frosty

cedar anchor
#

It might be 3dss cuz I got the same shit happening

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im not sure tho

spice kelp
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It could be, it didn't used to happen before so I'm ruling it out as being one of the new additional mods being installed with the UGP stuff

cedar anchor
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maybe

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I just want to play the game 😭😭

spice kelp
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Ah you've got a similar error, hmmm could be 3DSS scopes

cedar anchor
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yeah

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I only have 2 extra mods installed

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and HD models has a completely different error

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lemme disable it rq

cedar anchor
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I dunno what its confliciting with tho

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@spice kelp tell me if you find a fix other than disabling it

spice kelp
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I'd say that mine stopped crashing when I disabled it, and resumed crashing after enabling it

Despite the mod not being safe to remove since it adds and adjusts scopes, scope sections and so on

cedar anchor
iron tendon
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How would I get the HD textures mod is it one I have to download and out into Gamma files on my own?

cedar anchor
iron tendon
cedar anchor
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moddb

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heres a link hold on

iron tendon
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Appreciate it

cedar anchor
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np

iron tendon
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Aright this should be my final question but for an AMD 6600 what reshade would be best recommendation

tropic kite
# vivid sand help

usually related to using an outdated version of atmospherics, double check that your modlist is using the latest atmos and not an old one from an old custom modlist

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
tropic kite
iron tendon
tropic kite
vivid sand
tropic kite
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same issue, check your mags fixes

vivid sand
tropic kite
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hahahaha yes that would do it.

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make sure you're using UGP's version of mags redux.

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(and not the one that comes with gamma)

vivid sand
tropic kite
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all of its fixes for mags redux assumes you're using base gamma

stone pebble
tropic kite
tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
#

@stone pebble Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

stone pebble
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Yupp thanks

wispy comet
#

why does my game shader compilation keep failing

runic plinth
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someone know how to fix this? im using mags redux

autumn stream
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does anyone know a fix?

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
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@runic plinth When in game, go to Mod Configuration Menu -> ZCP -> Loot and disable Spawn old ammo

runic plinth
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oh thx so much

karmic tiger
quiet tangleBOT
autumn stream
karmic tiger
tropic kite
#

the idea is so that you don't have to constantly click unload

karmic tiger
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Oop

autumn stream
tropic kite
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i couldn't tell you. i don't play with mags.

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do the steps dry posted if you want the latest version of mags with more clicking

autumn stream
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ok cool

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thx

karmic tiger
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Yesssss, wear down your mouse switch

karmic tiger
deft snow
#

ugp, mags redux, and just installed Shine+Awry's mags fixes, but game crashes when being launched. Any help?

tropic kite
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follow ugp instrections only

deft snow
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orr maybe Im mixing something up

tropic kite
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ugp changes too much shit about guns

chrome rain
#

Hey, whats up

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I have an issue with the ghillie overhaul mod, when i try to use a weapon kit (like the deer hunter for the r700) my game just crashes, anyone can help?

zenith finch
#

trying to remove weapon parts overhaul but its causing me to crash on reload saying something about arti jamming

deft snow
#

ty for the help but i guess brute force works too

craggy venture
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yo

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so for some reason enemies won't shoot me

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any idea why, and should i send a list of the mods I've added?

wheat vine
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I got this while saving and buying a guide

craggy venture
#

For some reason enemy stalkers won't attack me, and I'm not sure why. Here's a screenshot of my mods and the log file:

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I'd really appreciate some help with this, as I'd like to continue playing the game properly without being immune to combat

tiny zinc
craggy venture
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I haven't

tiny zinc
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anyway don't use disabled gamma mods

craggy venture
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should I?

tiny zinc
craggy venture
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it's been working fine except for this

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i ended up being able to run through a military outpost without getting shot

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I didn't know why until now

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Is there anything else that could be affecting their AI?

tiny zinc
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stealth overhaul keksip

craggy venture
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just that?

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alr

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i'll give it a try

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so i disabled stealth overhaul and im gonna see if it works now

near sparrow
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when entering monolith control room

craggy venture
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Any idea what happened?

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Now it won't work even with the previous settings

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I'd really appreciate a possible solution

kindred swan
#

!voice

quiet tangleBOT
#

In order to remove the voice of your character in the game, disable these mods in Mod Organizer:

  1. 15- Voiced Actor - DesmanMetzger
  2. G.A.M.M.A. Voiced Actor
  3. 95- Doom-like weapon inspection - Grokitach

If you want to change Mercenary faction voicelines from English to Russian, disable these mods in Mod Organizer:

  1. 8- Better Merc voicelines - YankeeGolf
  2. G.A.M.M.A. Better Mercs Voices

Or, you can use this optional mod to remove english voicelines for all Merc/UNISG NPCs and yourself playing as Merc/UNISG): https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1138522302435303484

tiny zinc
quiet tangleBOT
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@craggy venture

  1. Download the mod archive: https://www.moddb.com/addons/start/207498

Do not extract it

  1. In Mod Organizer, go to File -> Install Mod... (or press Ctrl + M)
  2. Select the downloaded Stealth_2.31 archive
  3. Tick Stealth_2.31, then press Ok
  4. Find the newly installed mod at the end of your modlist. Enable it
tiny zinc
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btw you can just disable death anims, I think I needed to point that out

wheat vine
#

anyone got a fix? I was trying to save and it happened

raven river
#

is there a way to integrate refillable canteens from efp to gamma or similar mod?

undone fractal
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wtf? :c

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i delete shader cache

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no fix

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last mod that I installed: Aydin Grass Improves CSS compatibility with Terrain LOD

tropic kite
# wheat vine anyone got a fix? I was trying to save and it happened

best workraound i've ever seen is:

  • disable Hideout Furnitures ("new HF") + Hideout Furnitures GAMMA Patch
  • re-enable the old 1.2 version of Hideout Furnitures (we're gonna call this HF 1.2) from the GAMMA Disabled section
  • load your save
  • pick up every single placed furniture item
  • make a new save
  • disable HF 1.2
  • re-enable new HF and the new HF GAMMA Patch
  • load the new save
undone fractal
north elbow
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Wtf is this?

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Im getting it before entering a new area

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
#

@north elbow, we don't exactly know the reason for this error, but it is a random and regular one, please keep calm and carry on with your game.
Maybe in the future we'll find why it happens, but it's harmless otherwise.vodka

mint pasture
abstract bluff
#

is there a no way to install HD models mid game?

tropic kite
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hard requirement for a new game.

abstract bluff
craggy venture
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alr i got it

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i think i just didn't select the actual 2.31 install when I'd reinstalled it to try and fix the issue

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So I've tried reinstalling stealth overhaul and that error's gone but now I'm getting this

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new log file's here ⬆️

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Can someone help pls?

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i think this one is from atmospherics

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imma try reinstalling it rq

craggy venture
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same error

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can someone help me pls

scenic bay
elfin dock
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Has anybody gotten this error?

fallen obsidian
#

Any idea what's causing this crash? It happens whenever I get hit by a pseudogiant slam attack in zaton

spice kelp
mint pasture
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In the mean time you can disable the smle and it'll work

cursive shore
#

so i'm having Gamma close down on startup with no log file and no error/crash dialog, its literally just an empty file/0 bytes, has anyone encountered this before?

mint pasture
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at that point just start go back to default list and add back your mods until your crash

cursive shore
#

fair, if a mod needs the newest Demonized exe will that cause a problem with other mods that don't need it?

mint pasture
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no

craggy venture
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just a repost of a previous error cus the game is unplayable with it:

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can someone help pls?

tiny zinc
craggy venture
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End?

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It’s still where it is be default

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I just reinstalled it with the 2.31 version

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Am I supposed to add the death anims patch?

tiny zinc
craggy venture
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Ah alr then

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I’ll try that

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What does it do btw?

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Also this was working before

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Idk why it won’t now

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What does the stealth mod do tho?

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And is the patch installed by default?

craggy venture
#

Huh

tiny zinc
craggy venture
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Any idea why it’s not working now but it was before?

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I didn’t make any changes other than reinstalling the mod without the necessary files

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And then doing it again with the files

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I gtg to bed now but I’ll try moving the mod to the end of the list and I’ll see if it works

scenic bay
unborn fox
#

i have been having this error after updating to the latest version, trying to start a new game, crashes after shoosing settings and loadout

elfin dock
#

Has anyone seen this issue?

quiet tangleBOT
#

@unborn fox
Have you updated your launcher to V6?
The launcher is updated if:
1) in [YOUR GAMMA FOLDER\.Grok's Modpack Installer\resources] the same folder and file structure as in the screenshot below.
2) the launcher shows version 6.0.0.0.

Otherwise, update here - #πŸ€–bot-commands by writing !v6.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1188948924057264138/12312312.png

karmic tiger
#

You'll have to rebuild your custom modlist it either is outdated

unborn fox
#

thank you mine launcher is 5.0, also pretty sure i'm supposed to be posting in the base support,my bad

cedar frigate
#

tired updating gamma didn't help

mint ice
#

im having trouble getting barrys knife reanimation working in my game for some reason its invisible or just not there and when i disable it it puts the arms above my head.

tiny zinc
#

yes I'm lazy to read your modlist

mint ice
#

ill check if that works

fluid sundial
#

question about textures , i have this glossy effect on ground and hands of player, i tried the r2 gloss command to no effect , i did disable all shader mods , game is working fine , just has a gloss effect currently, did delete shader cache too

karmic tiger
fluid sundial
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will try that , thnx

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that fixed it , thanks

deep zinc
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Hey

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does anyone know how i can fix this problem?

cedar frigate
#

stalker cruelty squad edition

vagrant lance
quiet tangleBOT
#

@deep zinc To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

deep zinc
deep zinc
#

yeah, you know how fragile it is man...

tropic kite
deep zinc
#

Okay... now its just a black screen

vagrant lance
quiet tangleBOT
#

@deep zinc Are you playing on DX10? If yes, switch to DX11.
If you are already on DX11, 9 or 8, follow this: #β•­πŸ“–faq message

cedar frigate
# tropic kite what changes did you make to modlist

it only started after these
Shader 3D scopes (For GAMMA)

  • Dynamic Combat Music
    Miserable Masks
    EFT Modular Helmets and Armors Rework
    RETUNE Footstep
    Bullet cracks and impacts
    and toxic air but after disabiling all of them it still showed the error
deep zinc
tropic kite
deep zinc
#

Alright

tropic kite
cedar frigate
karmic tiger
tropic kite
# cedar frigate yeah

you cannot remove mods that add new items mid playthrough. Causes crashes if you load saves

cedar frigate
deep zinc
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95% percent of my crashes and problems in the game, is from the shaders Concerned

tropic kite
#

Screenshot it

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Because I have seen too many people swear it's the same when the error is plainly different

cedar frigate
deep zinc
deep zinc
cedar frigate
deep zinc
#

i think some of your addons are missing some things.

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speaking from experience kekcry

cedar frigate
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what the frick are they missing

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also already tried updating it

tropic kite
tropic kite
tropic kite
cedar frigate
tropic kite
#

Ok, yes, that's the version that comes with

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Did you already start the gamma launcher install process

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Because if you did, theres no point in me giving you other fixes atm

dire vigil
#

Cannot craft advanced tools anymore, anyone know why? I guess a mod is overwriting another mod, but Idk which one.

quiet tangleBOT
#

@dire vigil

Ask in here if you're using disabled mods in the mod list and extra stuff you added.

Make sure to say what you have enabled/disabled/added, we can't read your mind, posting a crash log without saying what you did or what you added is stupid and it doesn't help you or us.

cedar frigate
tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
#

@cedar frigate
To manually reinstall problematic mods do this:

  1. Go to the link(s) the Helper has provided above (or below).
  2. Download the mod file(s) from moddb. DO NOT EXTRACT.
  3. Place every archive you downloaded into your \GAMMA\downloads folder. Overwrite if needed.
  4. Run the GAMMA Launcher as admin.
  5. Uncheck/Disable:
  • Check MD5
  • Force git download
  1. Click Install / Update G.A.M.M.A.
dire vigil
jade meadow
#

Hello fellow stalkers
Can someone shed some light on this behaviour
When I open up my map on the PDA and left click somewhere, my FOV gets smaller, when I click R it goes back to normal.
I checked my keybinds and found nothing that would cause this behaviour, also MCM keybinds aren't showing a relevant conflict.
Help please

#

Pressing the freezoom key also causes this behaviour until I press R

karmic tiger
quiet tangleBOT
#

@jade meadow
Remove zoom on right-click (ADS):

Mod Config Menu -> Free Zoom -> set ADS multiplier to 1
Remove FOV change on equipping pistols:
Mod Config Menu -> Free Zoom -> set pistol multiplier to 1
Sidenote: Check your HUD and HUD FOV sliders in Settings>Visual>Basic and set them back to default if Free Zoom messed them up.
Default values are as follows:
FOV: 80
HUD FOV: 0.65

jade meadow
#

One last thing
This behaviour doesn't happen in all gaming sessions

jade meadow
jade meadow
strong jacinth
#

my game crashes after launching the game

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I also used msi mode in my gpu but im not sure if its related to this

haughty loom
strong jacinth
#

no?

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i only reinstalled sss

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disabled the terain upgrade

wheat vine
#

Hey guys. Got a little issue here. Cashier in Outskirts doesn't restock his trade inventory anymore. Anyone knows how to fix that?

vagrant lance
strong jacinth
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so i need to tick everything?

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alr

vagrant lance
#

then that's the cause for errors
reinstalling SSS unticks everything and you have to manually tick stuff

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hopefully it didn't break to the point where a gamma reinstall is needed

strong jacinth
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since they say it in fps optimations

tropic kite
#

@wheat vine what did you change about the modlist? list ALL your changes

vagrant lance
strong jacinth
#

thanks jokerge

vagrant lance
#

fps optimisations also says to click the message link for more info

tropic kite
# wheat vine

did you disable or change anything else about the modlist.

wheat vine
tropic kite
# wheat vine

first, do not enable ANYTHING in the vanilla gamma disabled category. bounty squads in particular causes crashes anyway

tropic kite
# wheat vine

second, your crash is UI related, so I would start by disabling your companion wheel (there's already a companion wheel in base gamma anyway), as well as double checking any UI related changes you made

wheat vine
wheat vine
#

😞

tropic kite
#

well that doesn't mean it's working now.

wheat vine
#

what a bummer

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im gonna first try to disable the gamma disabled ones

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and if it doesnt work and it probably wont if its ui related

#

i will try disabling wheel

tropic kite
#

as i say... companion wheel is already in gamma, anyway. and double-installing mods does lead to issues

wheat vine
tropic kite
#

it can

#

the version that comes with gamma, is sure to work well with the scripts + UI for gamma

wheat vine
#

i closed the wheel it still gives the same crash

tropic kite
quiet tangleBOT
#

@wheat vine Use the mod name search bar to find mods in MO2, and use the mod files search bar to find which files are from which mods. ||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​||||​|| _ _ _ _ _ _ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098945649929617478/1165045267637211156/mo2-search.png

tropic kite
#

like so

wheat vine
#

it is probably "Ammo Check" mod that I installed today

tropic kite
#

so

#

ammo check is also already in gamma

wheat vine
#

whaaaat

#

no way

tropic kite
#

disable the version you installed and use the one that's already included in gamma.

wheat vine
#

ok lemme check

tropic kite
wheat vine
#

am i checking it with holding a button or something

tropic kite
#

??

#

that's the same ammo check mod, just installed without overwriting the hud xml files, which was causing your crash

tropic kite
wheat vine
tropic kite
#

it hides how many bullets you have in your mag, you press a configurable hotkey, it gives you a vague indicator of how many shots are left

strong jacinth
#

i did everything but it still doesnt work

tropic kite
# wheat vine i just asked how it functions

gamma changes too much about anomaly, unless a mod explicitly says it's compatible for gamma or it comes from this discord, don't assume it's going to just work perfectly

wheat vine
vagrant lance
quiet tangleBOT
#

@strong jacinth To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

strong jacinth
#

oh my days

mint pasture
#

Then you've got a mod that messes with shaders that isn't compatible with soemthing else, or the load order for the shaders is wrong

strong jacinth
#

!default

quiet tangleBOT
#

@strong jacinth
To bring your mod list, settings and keybinds back to default, inverting any changes made by you:

  1. Open the G.A.M.M.A. Launcher with admin rights
  2. Uncheck every box EXCEPT Delete Reshade DLLs
  3. Click on Install / Update G.A.M.M.A

Note: If you wish to keep your keybinds and graphical settings, go to Anomaly\appdata and backup user.ltx.

wheat vine
#

Okay. That's new...

deep zinc
#

where is the thread guide for winter mod for gamma?

vagrant lance
quiet tangleBOT
deep zinc
#

thanks

halcyon ore
#

do i need vpn if i update the game, the vpn is causing problem slowing down my update and sometimes causing it to stuck

olive berry
#

Why would you need a vpn?

halcyon ore
#

cause the country i am has alot censorship

cloud prairie
#

Hey, is anyone around that could help me troubleshoot a crash?

quiet tangleBOT
#

@cloud prairie

Ask in here if you're using disabled mods in the mod list and extra stuff you added.

Make sure to say what you have enabled/disabled/added, we can't read your mind, posting a crash log without saying what you did or what you added is stupid and it doesn't help you or us.

neat frigate
#

Any idea on how to fix that?

blazing crow
#

Does anyone know under which term/section I could find the option do increase/decrease the recoil of a weapon in the LTX-Data? For example:

distant lintel
#

hellooo guyspeepohi
mb u can tell me what the problem is: crashes without log when i click on an artifact in the craft

addons: egui

haughty loom
coral carbon
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@neat frigate To clean your "Shader Cache", don't use the option in the Anomaly launcher.
Go in this folder: Anomaly\appdata, you'll find a folder called shaders_cache, delete this folder and launch the game normally from MO2, using your preferred DX.

haughty loom
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Comments are filled with people having issues. Might want to try the author's discord for help

strange kernel
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I keep crashing in when traveling to zaton; unhandled exception. attached is my crash log. im not very good at reading these things, so some help in finding the issue would be appreciated.

neat frigate
wheat vine
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Why does the default FOV of 80 keep changing its value all the time?

olive berry
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Default FoV (Field of View) settings: FOV: 80 | HUD_FOV: 0.65.

olive berry
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they changed the command

light jungle
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anyone know a fix for this

light jungle
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i just added toggled the mags mod on new item high light buyable mags from trader and the ammo check mod thats all in the gamma list thats turned off

wheat vine
olive berry
olive berry
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@wheat vine
Remove zoom on right-click (ADS):

Mod Config Menu -> Free Zoom -> set ADS multiplier to 1
Remove FOV change on equipping pistols:
Mod Config Menu -> Free Zoom -> set pistol multiplier to 1
Sidenote: Check your HUD and HUD FOV sliders in Settings>Visual>Basic and set them back to default if Free Zoom messed them up.
Default values are as follows:
FOV: 80
HUD FOV: 0.65

wheat vine
olive berry
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Should stop happening until you trigger that bug again

wheat vine
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OK, I'll try to turn off Free Zoom in MO2, maybe the reason is in it

olive berry
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It is, but the mod is useful. I am telling you how to fix it

fallow oriole
light jungle
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anyone know a fix ?

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i didnt add any mods besides some of the disabled ones i have had on previous times i have played

flint pebble
austere current
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Started getting this after adding the Toxic Air, Miserable Masks and Headgear Animations. All three mods are at the bottom of the load order, Headgear Animations above the other two. It worked fine for the first 5 minutes now after moving from Garbage to Cordon, all I get is this. Tried starting a new game and still getting the same. Anyone know a fix please?

cedar anchor
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How can I get Cr3pis icons to work with HD models?

haughty loom
# light jungle anyone know a fix ?

Disabled mods are disabled for a reason do not turn those back on.

That error is because you have two sections for a single weapon and the second is not a dltx override you would need to give the prefix ! As said in the log to all offending files

light jungle
tropic kite
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something something don't use black market with ugp/don't use anomaly magazines with ugp

light jungle
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i get the list

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agressor reshade

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thermal anomiles

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mutants bleeding

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an anomly mags

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death animations

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boomsticks 2022

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retrogues guns

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pda January crash

tropic kite
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please put it into a txt file or something

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don't go line by line

light jungle
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thats it

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idk how to txt file

tropic kite
tropic kite
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light jungle
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i guess ill play normal gamma lol

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i have had these mods on before like early this year no problem

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i even streamed the game with no crashes

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i wish there was just pre set setting for if you want it hardcore or easy mode

tropic kite
light jungle
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ya i mean for mods

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like no mags makes the game super easy

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i have beatin it markov only

tropic kite
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boomsticks 2022 needs to be disabled since those guns aren't balanced for gamma, retrogues is already in there, agressor reshade does literally nothing except lower your fps (it sure as shit isn't a reshade), thermal anomalies + mutants bleeding cause busyhands and softlocks you, and anomaly mags straight up makes you crash out at launch.

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literally none of it works

light jungle
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hmm

tropic kite
dreamy orbit
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does anyone know which mods stand for gamma's toolkit progression

naive anvil
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Hey, so I enabled Mags Redux and disabled the unjam reload mod and it doesn't seem to be working at all. Reloading is completely nonfunctional. Am I missing something?

cloud ocean
# tropic kite !move // just copy the entire gamma/mods folder over

Sorry to directly message you was just a bit confused about something, the guide says to delete the MO.ini and to delete the whole mods folder and reupdate GAMMA, but you said to copy the whole mods folder over so that I can still keep the mods I've installed ontop of GAMMA. So which steps do I follow so I don't mess anything up?

tropic kite
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@naive anvil How to reload your gun:

If you are playing vanilla GAMMA: your unjam key = your reload key.

If you are playing with MAGS REDUX:

  1. Make sure you disabled the "GAMMA Unjam reload on the same key" mod
  2. Make sure you separately rebind the Reload command ("Put away PDA or reload") and the Unjam command
  3. Make sure you added magazines to your loadout (alt-click or right click -> "add to loadout")
cloud ocean
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tropic kite
cloud ocean
fossil gull
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how do i change the betting amounts in blackjack?

ornate badger
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so i installed the KVMA'S Model Mod and i disabled the mods it needed to work and the textures was still shit

cursive shore
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has anyone recently encountered a crash related to using the War Nymph mod? it doesn't crash in the traditional sense, it just closes down before it finishes starting and produces an empty log file with no crash logs or messages - trying to use the LASS mod and while LASS itself loads fine, it relies on WarNymph and that one causes the issue for...whatever reason, flying blind here (also asked in their discussion as well but thought i'd throw it in here just in case)