╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[restive steeple]

?

[wanton arch]

Death animation could brick it ?

not sure

hold up if you have time you should try single each mod

[restive steeple]

oh how so ?

[wanton arch]

i can zone out few mods like Oxa/Easy mutant loot

im expecting death animation can brick camera on new start

but that just my assumption

[restive steeple]

not having easy mutant

[wanton arch]

ok dam idk which really

extended mutant loot is a better mod

[restive steeple]

the crash happens currently only when loading save after i have died.

[restive steeple]

use this mutant mod only i suppose tho i suspect this all to be Desolation

[restive steeple]

also know as EML

[wanton arch]

after you die

[restive steeple]

ya

[wanton arch]

yeah it could be death animation ????

idk if that even affect player animation or not

[restive steeple]

not as i die after like loading save that just worked moments ago

[wanton arch]

odd issue

[restive steeple]

Just died haven't crash's but i suspect it to happen now that i needd to load game again

Second time it crashed

[kindred violet]

Sorry, my bad lmao, had some other dudes pic in mind that was vortex

[restive steeple]

ok

[restive steeple]

able to VC as I'm about to give up on debugging this worst mod-able game

[kindred violet]

I'm at work lol

[restive steeple]

ok sorry

[kindred violet]

Lol no prob

And trust me there's way worse games for modding

S2 is actually relatively simple

[restive steeple]

point was modding with stability in the mods and game itself

[restive steeple]

want to play factorio while i wait then

[kindred violet]

You said it's specifically when loading an autosave?

Right?

[restive steeple]

yea that was always crashing but also managed to have my main save also crash the second time I had to load it. @kindred violet

[restive steeple]

crashing specifically when loading any saves otherwise i have fix the crashing so far as i haven't crashed while simply playing again yet.

I start to suspect this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1179

still not sure as how my crashes occure

[kindred violet]

From my somewhat limited modding knowledge it sounds like some mod is trying to initialize something on the player character before it has properly loaded in.

[kindred violet]

This is quite outdated, it's from february

[restive steeple]

was thinking so

[kindred violet]

You really do need quite up to date mods because there's been a relatively big change with the last version of the sdk, where bpatch and the modworldsubsystem were introduced

[restive steeple]

I try too

did remove that mod still same crash error?

[kindred violet]

You could figure what might be causing it by removing all mods and adding them back one by one

[restive steeple]

What do you know about mods using UE4SS?

[kindred violet]

Any mod that is up to date for 1.6 shouldn't need ue4ss anymore because of the modworldsubsystem

But this is another case of checking the description

[restive steeple]

removing the following has made me load game without crashing

[restive steeple]

OXA was the actual Culprit in the load crashing
even tho is says it working on https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/939

[wanton arch]

i doubt

and what you using

oxa prototype or just oxa standard

if oxa prototype you might have a lot of compability issue

me

that def can brick the game

[restive steeple]

Prototype

Tho i was missing this just not sure what thee person meant by Delete...

[kindred violet]

I would assume you have to replace a pak file from lootable zone with the one provided as a patvh

[restive steeple]

There are no pack file named that in the oxa mod

even unpacking it i can't find it Not that I should even have to unpack the mod at all

The file needing replacing was in the lootable mod. Derp

so now to see if patching it works in fixing the crash

adding OXA then does this

[slim moth]

OXA is perfectly fine. it's whatever combination you have.

Desolation is realllllllly out of date

so if you started a save with that, and you remove it. your game is fucked

[restive steeple]

Then why working fine without OXA

[slim moth]

using old parameters that OXA cannot read anymore

[restive steeple]

your ar beeind in this part

plain new save with mods OXA crashed on saveload

[slim moth]

okay. so you removed Desolation?

[restive steeple]

hours ago

[slim moth]

good. what else is in the folder

[slim moth]

What's in your UE4SS folder

[restive steeple]

DarkerNights & Fastravel everywhere

• the files that comes with ue4ss

[slim moth]

is death animation Shay's?

[restive steeple]

i think so yea

[slim moth]

Do you have any mod.io or Steam Workshop mods

[restive steeple]

Nope

[slim moth]

Do you have anything in logic mods or in the Paks folders

[restive steeple]

that is?

[slim moth]

Some mods make a secondary mod folder called "logic Mods" it works the same as ~mods

but if you dont know you probably dont have it.

[slim moth]

Yeah, unless i can see what is in every folder, i can't help.

[restive steeple]

no mods have told me to put it there so

[slim moth]

That's fine, i don't use it either.

[restive steeple]

want to VC so i can show by screen share ? Lobby 6

[odd fjord]

did u change the script hook in ue4ss?

*\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 Heart of Chornobyl\Stalker2\Binaries\Win64\ue4ss

change from 1 to 0

[mossy jasper]

Hilarious how Anomaly predicted 3 different plot points

1.New Monolith adjecent group of cultists
2.strellok comes back dor lols
3.Scar somehow came back

[slim moth]

We got it fixed!

[somber crow]

https://youtu.be/GapbfzPV7zg?si=bLihpIP1E7SODq1H&t=364 anyone knows what mod make you lowered the weapon like that? also wich one is the mod to aim like in nvg without the nvg?

[wanton arch]

Oxaprototype has it on by default

[wanton arch]

Honest review on this game

1. GSC are fucking scammers covering themselves with war while working in prague.
2. Game is unfinished.
3. Story is badly written, adding SIIRCA into game is a bad decision since how the fuck did they bulid this there.
   After the bulid of the game was leaked, they promised to change the lore this game, but they didn't.

Script of the story of the game was handed from great team to now, what seems like some fanfic wattpad writers that just wanted to make somewhat of a good ending, but in the end all endings suck. Even paid reviews cannot cover up this.

4. Instead of covering themselves with war, should've just scrapped the game and released what they started back in the 2010.

Stalker 2 was in development since 2010. They started making it, but since GSC is shit, they scrapped it and now returned to it.

old story is here, its on polish site about stalker.
https://centrumzony.pl/uniwersum/s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2-z-2010/fabula-i-zakonczenia

5. Game crashes, unspecified reasons, 0 fixes done.

To conclude my rant, this is just STALKER, not S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Seems like something more of russian fan made mod for SoC with some "love" story how Scar became some fuckass happy happy dude that needs to be shot when he was a chad cold blood killer mercenary.

(saying this after 230 hours of gameplay.)

[warped monolith]

1. true
2. true
3. subjective but I haven't played long enough to form my own opinion
4. I think that would've been worse. They shoulda taken one or two more years making this, instead

but Microsoft must've planted the foot and told them "no more delays"

[wanton arch]

they wanted to release it for gamepass drops, thats why they sped up release.

[warped monolith]

sometimes the money people can get annoyed when you have to delay a release of their game 3 times

in the meantime, Grygorovych buys his 32nd lamborghini

[wanton arch]

also they released these remasters

that are nothing but just ""revamps"" of the UI

and remade textures with AI

[warped monolith]

don't forget the retcons

[steep pivot]

STALKER 2 too good

[wanton arch]

...also the censorship

[steep pivot]

I like Stalker 2 due to its Tacticool style + story of its own. You could say it isn't really a sequel but a standalone Stalkerish game.

The big problem is the emptiness for sure, game is solid but the areas are way too big and needs something to be filled on.

[warped monolith]

wait, but it is a sequel

and yeah map too big and many areas have nothing in them lul

[wanton arch]

Have you played orginals first?

[steep pivot]

Yes it is, but for the "Stalker vets" they don't consider it.

[wanton arch]

since stalker isnt cod or arma

its about travelling around the zone

[warped monolith]

"stalker vets" have been brainrotted into thinking anomaly and gamma are the "OG trilogy"

[wanton arch]

oblivion lost was my gamma.

[warped monolith]

the number of times people have claimed in this channel that Stalker 2 is missing features from "the originals" and then mentioning shit from gamma

[steep pivot]

Tbh you're right, that's also my thinking but I could see a reason why some thinks that it isn't stalker like too, just cuz they added way more Tacticool stuff lmao.

[steep pivot]

Yeah I mean if some vets do think that old classic stalker didn't have Tacticool stuff, sequels supposed to have some upgrades and Stalker 2 did just fine with the upgrades.

[wanton arch]

Since stalker is about exploration, lore, etc.
Adding more shooting just makes it some call of duty set in chernobyl.

Shooting mutants and occasioally bandits? Cool

But I would not make S.T.A.L.K.E.R a some type of anomaly mod

Making it a tacticool just ruins the vibe

[steep pivot]

I lowkey like the story of Stalker 2, but I could get why it was confusing for others since some didn't aligned well and changed, hence why, I said it can be consider as a standalone game if that makes sense.

[steep pivot]

But it's fun tho

[wanton arch]

its about loopholes and writing it their own way, its not matching with the orginals

[wanton arch]

depends

I take shooting as second part of the game

i take lore, story and locations first

[steep pivot]

Well everyone can have different taste and opinions. But seriously we lack games like Stalker.

[warped monolith]

odd but valid perspective... in my experience the originals had just as much shooting as 2 does

[steep pivot]

If there's a lot of souls like then i like to have a lot of stalker like

True, there's a lot of shooting in the originals, but I think he meant he didn't care much about the gunplay part.

[warped monolith]

check out Misery
it's a bit barebones and looks worse than a PSX game but it has the vibe

and has co-op

and it's dirt cheap

[steep pivot]

I think I've heard of that before.

Well I'm currently rocking Code Vein lmao it's a fun Souls-like game, I took a break in stalker 2.

[warped monolith]

project silverfish also does the stalker vibe rather nicely

[steep pivot]

I really wish there would be some devs would approach a stalker like but more on Tacticool side type of game where u can collect loot parts for guns like Stalker, and enemies must be atleast mutants or robotic maybe like Arc raiders.

And open world that's not empty atleast.

[warped monolith]

zero sievert, if you don't mind the top-down camera and cutesy pixel art

there was another one that I played the demo recently but I forgot the name

Scavland.

[unreal ridge]

In two words OG Stalkers had their own atmosphere and Stalker 2 shifted experience to better fit western society
That’s why it feels odd for most of the players

[warped monolith]

felt largely the same to me, except SIRCAA of course
game's just more detailed and more colorful

[unreal ridge]

Stalker 2 feels more like Fallout or Skyrim

[warped monolith]

phew, at least you didn't call it Far Cry like most chuds did back in the day

[unreal ridge]

Just a new way to represent it

From my experience i will try to show difference in a plot feeling
Stalker 2 making a lot of reference, drama, loud words, they show you characters background and etc but at the end all of the characters is not so well developed and here is only for a boss fight (like a few main ones)
So it feels like game trying to create this pressure but then suddenly when it comes to the end you don’t feel proper outcome

OG games give you less of the plot or it’s not so easily spotted what makes you explore more, and most of the characters is looking grey at the first sight but each new interaction unravel a lot of small details that are not necessarily pointed out and you analyze and create your own image

So far Stalker 2 guide player mostly

[hard marsh]

Hi, anyone have performance issues on pc?

If so could someone tell me how to fix them? I have a 5080rtx and a 7 9800x3d

I just wannna play the game:/

[unreal ridge]

When OG Stalker gives a player a possibility to discover everything by themself
It may be more complicated in some ways tho but more rewarding

[unreal ridge]

Hey
Stalker 2?

[slim moth]

either ultra+ or just wait for engine update

[unreal ridge]

No
Ultra plus is not working for everyone same

[slim moth]

That sounds like a skill issue

[unreal ridge]

Give me 2 mins I will send you

[unreal ridge]

Go to the mod page and read that due to the latest changes not all features working properly and. It features aligned with some specific PC setups

I don’t have issues with performance and I’m with 3050 and 5500

[hard marsh]

Yes stalker 2! So essentially it’s stuttering a lot and I want to minimise it as much as I can.

It’s been like this since release for me also on a different pc.

Since I got a tank of a pc I thought surely it would improve this but no….

It’s rage baiting me because I’m dying to play the game I just don’t want a sore head after 5 mins….

[slim moth]

well if people have shit pc's then it wont help.

[unreal ridge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1731

this one helped the most

[slim moth]

Im in their discord

[unreal ridge]

i tried different configs

[slim moth]

oh god. engine.ini

good luck

[unreal ridge]

also this one is good because you can add some values to Engine.ini if you need to

like i used to change HUD sizes

with a mod and it requires to adding lines to Engine.ini

they both working together

[hard marsh]

Ok so essentially I need to get a mod and dive into the files to get it working?

[unreal ridge]

you download the file from the mod i sent you
then you go to %appdata% folder (literally type %appdata% in your windows search)

Local

Stalker 2

Saved

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-oil-snake-oil-scam-cure-all-gif-20493779

[unreal ridge]

Config

Windows

and put the file there

if you already have the same file

Backup one you have just in case it won't work for you

and put the one you downloaded

also watch this guide

sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=814y2OPLsX0

it might be a bit outdated

but mostly true atm

[unreal ridge]

you just beign a dick for no reason

didn't check this custom engine page

and didn't pay attention to what i said and author of the Ultra + said

'- The latest version of U+ (v4.4.5) supports patch 1.6 however we continue to need to make significant changes every time they patch the game. The mod will be remade from scratch when the UE engine version is updated. Patch 1.6 seemed to introduce more potential CPU bottlenecks than before, especially with U+, and it is difficult to debug why outside of the games overarching problems with shadows, foliage, and lumen. If you experience bottlenecking with U+, sorry. This game has been difficult to support. '

[hard marsh]

Any chance you could dm this stuff bro? I’m going to try it out now

[unreal ridge]

Patch 1.6 seemed to introduce more potential CPU bottlenecks than before, especially with U+, and it is difficult to debug why outside of the games overarching problems with shadows, foliage, and lumen. If you experience bottlenecking with U+, sorry. This game has been difficult to support

[unreal ridge]

but i've sent you a link already

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1731

in a guide only described what settings affect the performance and how hard they affect it

look

if you need help

i can dm you

and help to setup step by step

[hard marsh]

Ok I just don’t really understand I’ve never had to this before.

[unreal ridge]

it's ok

[slim moth]

[unreal ridge]

if you want to prove me something do next
go full default game and check perf
then with this config

before that you didn't even tried this

i tried Ultra+

for me it didn't work out better then this custom config

and if you don't want to

your opinion don't matter for me

but if you will proove me i'm wrong in some way or this custom engine do nothing

and wont improve perf

[slim moth]

Some of the stuff in that giant list of parameters will do something, but when you have a bunch of lines that absolutely do nothing then there really isn't a point

[unreal ridge]

i will apologize

[slim moth]

the anti stutter mod does the same thing. Just a bunch of code with maybe 1/4 of it actually working in game.

rest is just bloat

but if it works for you. go for it. i have a 4070s so i can handle the changes that U+ makes. as far as a 3050, probably not

[unreal ridge]

what i said at the start

it's not working for everybody

[slim moth]

but somebody with a 5080 might be able to handle it lol.

[unreal ridge]

If what I’m offering won’t work for him

You can try to help him setup Ultra+

[unreal ridge]

Unfortunately
I have just 3050, Ryzen 5 5500 and 16 GB RAM

I’m able to play with mid-high and sometimes ultra settings without stuttering

Also I can use only FSR for frame generation unfortunately

And it work bad

I don’t use it

[slim moth]

That makes sense then.

[warped monolith]

[unreal ridge]

For me it’s hilarious cause it’s working
Yes I’m not so advanced in understanding the game engine deeply and how variables work but among all optimization guide or configs this one worked for me
Again
If you willing to, help me to set up Ultra+ if you telling it’s a skill issue
And if it works better I will apologize and never will question your statements around this

I can admit I can be wrong but I need to see a result

And the guy I offered this config also said it’s working perfect for him now

[slim moth]

the thing with Ultra Plus is that you can leave of these options default if you wanted to (they're there for a boost in either visuals/perf), but they also have tweaked the in-game settings so that it can have improved perf. So medium textures = vanilla Ultra textures

[unreal ridge]

Let me check

Thanks, I will check and let you know results
Not now, unfortunately already busy
But I will update you for sure

[silver orchid]

S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 development don't started in 2010

started in 2009 (don't has several thingis from that year but yes, the conceptual part started in 2009).

[unreal ridge]

Studio was closed for a few years

And development continued on 2014 I believe

But overall

I agree with his statements

[silver orchid]

and HoC development started in some point of 2018, but none "real-progress" was done until 2020-2022.

[unreal ridge]

Yep

Main chief Grigorovich

Basically was a dickhead

And almost all designers and stuff

Went to make Metro Game

And created their own studio

Because Grigorovich didn’t raise salary for them

But games was really successful in terms or finance overall

Plus Kozaks franchise

[silver orchid]

The biggest problem of HoC are the retcons tho, without many retcons one (or several) of his problem would be fixed, and perhaps HoC has "silly-writting" (ehem, CS related thingis, ehem, CS related thingis, already i said CS related thingis?)

[silver orchid]

yes but now the "grigorovich-boss" is his brat, evgeniy.

[unreal ridge]

True

After reopening the studio

[silver orchid]

The main problem of HoC are the retcons and how big-part of the OG characters are treated, change my mind.😭

[silver orchid]

Evgeniy was the boss with S2 too

Actually, i think that GSC was fucked by him, sergay wasn't sooo present on S2 development because was bored or smth with S2 according to Koan Podarok.

[grizzled night]

what mods can fix the fps and problems with the bugs in the game in stalker 2 who know

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-gillis-tripping-gilli-flashback-ptsd-gif-9289161830168442302

[unreal ridge]

Check recent messages in this chat
We were discussing it

Soon I will get to PC to check Ultra +

[wanton arch]

Upgrading your pc

But I guess there's mods for lower resolution

And so on for lower distances of render (if you have performance issues)

Also fixing spawnpoints, there's mods for it too

Just check mods sites.

[unreal ridge]

So\

for me Ultra + making everything worse on Med

i have cracked version of the game

might be the deal too

[slim moth]

its fine man.

im really not that worried about it lol

[unreal ridge]

I want to know for myself too
You said skill issue I was trying to see what I’ve missed

I followed your settings too
But got reduced performance

Unfortunately

Around 18 FPS

I play with cracked game but it”s updated to 1.6.1

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-distance-strelok-stalker-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-gif-9607769205614768453

[restive steeple]

Any known mods making this guy un healable? or let m know what med i need to heal him

[unreal ridge]

With OXA you have valid medkits and out of date ones, check carefully, also valid medkits heal over time so you gotta wait after use it on him

[restive steeple]

Noting i had worked so tho i found a alt way to complete qust

[unreal ridge]

I got same situation so I quickly returned to Zalissya and bought some valid medkits from a medic

[restive steeple]

Well i may have shot the guy the quest progressed anyway

[unreal ridge]

I see

Also a solution

[icy fractal]

@unkempt steeple@potent bough

[potent bough]

Don't. Ping. Staff.

Period.

Don't do that shit.

[unkempt steeple]

#📄rules nr.8

[icy fractal]

i need a little help guys

one point

[potent bough]

Then ask in appropiate channels and don't ping

[icy fractal]

meme

[molten osprey]

what you need

and if its gamma related, not here

[serene ether]

who can family share me an stalker 2?

just asking

[molten osprey]

i just witnessed a profile change live

crazy

[tacit glacier]

That might be difficult as Steam checks if you live in the same household (likely via IP)
If you don't you cannot be added as a family member.

[serene ether]

oh

i need to live the same country as you

like tht?

[unreal ridge]

you can do like this

person can login into your account

from their PC

and have their Steam account on at their phone

and that's how they can link your account to their family household

but you need to be sure in person you give a acess to your Steam ccount you know

@serene ether

[grim crane]

what mods would you reccomend to have more like hardcore expirience, clsoer to gamma? im about to start my 1st playthrought, not counting playing like 15 hrs at the launch

[unreal ridge]

OXA Prototype

Craftable Zone

Lootable Zone

A-life Found a way to adjust spawn system

NPC Combat Overhaul

this is about gameplay and fighting and spawn scenarios

OXA Prototype is a core mod

that introduce reapir system and upgrade system for weapons

which is better then vanilla 100%

and Craftable and Lootable Zone combo give a feeling of GAMMA crafting scheme

@grim crane

[grim crane]

nice, thanks man 😄

[unreal ridge]

You welcome

There is also other way

Oxa Standard and then on top Stalke Unlimited

Check this mods and their description to figure out

if it will be too complex for you i can just sen you what mods i gathered for myself

it will be drag and drop

[grim crane]

would yo mabe reccomend getting this collection to make it simple ? : https://www.nexusmods.com/games/stalker2heartofchornobyl/collections/tw3rt2/mods

@unreal ridge

[unreal ridge]

let me check

its really small and few mods outdated

you should keep it up to date now

[grim crane]

ah, dajum 😄 hard chocies 😄

[unreal ridge]

let me show what i have

i will DM you

[grim crane]

thanks, appriciate it !

[pseudo falcon]

anyone here using craftable and lootable zone?

with oxa prototype

[unreal ridge]

Yes

Me

@pseudo falcon

[pseudo falcon]

oh

[unreal ridge]

Oh I missed you again
You can ask what you want I can help you @pseudo falcon
but better dm me

[pseudo falcon]

im just wondering who uses it lol
the game feels harder with it

[unreal ridge]

Yes, and I play on veteran difficulty

And to make it even more rewarding

I added Shay’s save hubs

So I can save only near fireplace or at the friendly hub

So now I really buy this first aid kits)

Because corrupted one won’t save from shit

1 bloodsucker easily can finish you

It’s far more interesting now

Also I tried Shay’s A life for this update

And A life found a way

And I can tell then when I was playing year ago in 1.2

Shay’s was better

Now I found A life found a way far more better and realistic

Seems almost like in OG

That squads doesn’t spawn 15-40 m away in count of 5-6 enemies just from the sky

But they assigned to locations or regions

And for example I was at the lesser zone, this location with a thread mill

Where you done one of the first main quests

And first time here was stalkers just chilling

2 bandits and few blind dogs

Then I died

Had to do all again

Next time it was bandits vs burer

And blind dogs

Then I died again from a bloodsucker

And third time it was bandits against Varta soldiers

So for me it’s far better

[pseudo falcon]

lol

might try A Life found a way

[unreal ridge]

Yea, recommend it to try

[pseudo falcon]

btw which one? the beta version?

[unreal ridge]

There is only one

Second file option is to remove mod if you didn’t like it

I forgot to resupply medkits and on sphere right now

It’s hard af

But luckily this and npc behavior redone

Plus I went at night

I can try to escape

Already killed around 20 and seems like 10-15 more of the there

Massacre

[cosmic lichen]

Hmm... I think I need help

[pseudo falcon]

man
oxa prototype is hard
it feels not for me

kek ill just play standard

[unreal ridge]

Kinda realistic tho

I can’t get out of sphere all this time man

I stuck at the moment when you can go outside

I kill 15-20 men but always this one bastard…

And I have only 2 first aid kits

Man)

Good side each time randomized loot

I looted a suppressor once

For HK416

Luckily I got it at poppy field and bought a scope

I need 1 more man with me for such tackticool shit

Or NVG

[unreal ridge]

I can share my mod list

Will do it today at nexus

Just set rookie difficulty and use OXA

And learn improve

My strategy to set hardest so I will naturally adjust

Or I would never progress lol

[pseudo falcon]

nevermind me, i forgot why i dont use protoype

[unreal ridge]

And why?

[pseudo falcon]

i only wanted the weapon customization and more scopes on weapons

if i want it like that, ill just play gamma

[unreal ridge]

I see

[hushed garden]

has the game optimization been improved?

[unreal ridge]

I can share mods I use for optimization
Also today I tried lossless scaling thanks to one guy and that improved overall performance for me

[icy bough]

best s2 mods to enhance experience
adds most gamma features

[unreal ridge]

And what’s the issue with this?

Why S2 cant have its own gamma like setup?

[remote eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[steep pivot]

We need more weapon mods for sure

[mossy jasper]

Alternative ending mod where the c-conc uses psy waves to make Scar and Strellok kiss

[steep pivot]

I want an official drum mag for kharod

[mossy jasper]

"Wait Richter i don't get it who owns the zone now?"

"Love Skif"

[steep pivot]

No homo, but homies

[mossy jasper]

Rivals more like

Which is very sad

You gotta dream of a different timeline where they didn't fight eachother

[steep pivot]

Well they have different ideology

So far I'm going for the ward ending just because skif himself wanted it but no ending is really appealing or good to me lmao

Going for strelok, can be okiesh, but wanted a control like the ward also.

I do feel bad for Richter seems like he is leaning towards like Streloks plan, to keep the zone going but they're really just bat shit insane anyways.

[mossy jasper]

Scar is the ideal ending

Personally i believe that Skif is actually talking to his friends in the Noosphere

Other endings though

Ward ends with the zone dying destroying the series

Strellok fuckin recreates the pre-clearsky zone

And the Doctor?

The doctor is the craziesr

[feral bison]

why does the rebalance mod make the game crash everytime after the first scanner in the opening

[stuck seal]

is there like a mod to spawn less dogs

why is there a pack of 10 of them every 5 meters man

[unreal ridge]

Use A life found a way
From my experience best a life mod so far
I checked recent versions of Shay’s and this one and A life found a way feels better and more natural

[leaden prawn]

@plush tree Your acctually disgusting and im glad u left our server

[plush tree]

oh.. kay?

what happened

[leaden prawn]

anh ur just hella wierd

[plush tree]

pure jokes btw, still cant find the problem

[leaden prawn]

your the problem bro why would u be freaky with somone and ask for pics and the block then tf

[plush tree]

what? wait

wtf dym pics

i never asked for no pics

[leaden prawn]

Lower your ego bro

[plush tree]

first of all, sybau. second of all

when did i ask for any sort of pic

that was a pure joke she was okay with

[leaden prawn]

🤓

[plush tree]

third of all if she were to feel weird abt it, why not tell me

it wasnt that big a problem

and if ur really so interested in all this, why enter a whole server just to talk to me when u could talk to me in private

smartass.

[leaden prawn]

nah she said ur wierd

[plush tree]

she didnt tell ME to ME

[leaden prawn]

nah hell nah im not gonna add u

[plush tree]

she didnt say it to me, i couldve just STOPPED

[plush tree]

u dont need to add me to talk to me

[leaden prawn]

besides u woudnt accept stupid

[plush tree]

i would?

why jump to assumptions

i didnt even block her btw

just a funny fact

[leaden prawn]

u did tho

[plush tree]

i only removed her from my friends list

no i DIDNT, if u take that from the chat, that was again, a joke. as i saw her online

[leaden prawn]

okay okay u yap a lot

[plush tree]

okay..?

[leaden prawn]

if only i could send pics here bro u would be done

[plush tree]

alr.

[leaden prawn]

alr bye ho

[plush tree]

bye love

[leaden prawn]

ew

[leaden prawn]

Mbb guys heh

[plush tree]

im sorry to the ones having to see this.

immature conversation really

[vivid crater]

Wtf just happend

0_0

[unreal ridge]

Why you started this drama?
You can have a point between your friends and related to what happened at your server but why do we need to know this?

@stuck zenith please regulate those two people
They start an argument here that is not anyhow related to the theme of the channel

[remote eagle]

shoot them both

[unreal ridge]

Wow, cool nickname CyberGopnik

No irony or offense

[south ether]

Is there any chance that the weapon parts gameplay is coming to s2

[south ether]

Ty

[unreal ridge]

It’s already there

Check OXA prototype mod

And if you like it i posted mod list that is working for 1.6.1 based in this mod

[south ether]

Oh nice need to check ty

[unreal ridge]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion message

You welcome

But you will need to start a new game unfortunately

No other way around it

[south ether]

Unfortunately it's not compatible with unlimited. Sad

[unreal ridge]

OXA Standard is

But if you look for ballistics - OXA gives it too

i was using FUBAR at the release so i know what it is

and also in return you have lootable and craftable zone for craft

@south ether

anyway you can try, i left a link for whole ~mods folder, so you can easily test it

and if you don't like switch back to mergin Unlimited

[south ether]

where can i find it?

got it

[unreal ridge]

i sent a link to a message and at the end of it i left google drive link

[south ether]

is there any load order? @unreal ridge

[unreal ridge]

it's already good related to this

i tested everything works fine

i merged it yesterday so it's fresh and compatible

i gotta go, so if something i will reply later

[warped monolith]

the fuck just happened in this chat

I missed the execution

[remote eagle]

it still didnt happend

[warped monolith]

one of them left the server, assumed they got banned

[remote eagle]

oh didnt saw that

[unreal ridge]

I’m back if you need something

Ali blocked me guys

So I can assume he/she was the problem
But that’s max I want to say about it

[odd fjord]

that was obvious as soon as he white knighted his way about a girl

dude saw his moment to defend some chick like some daydream fantasy

but yeah it has been done LETS TALK ABOUT STALKER 2 NOT GAMMA

[tacit glacier]

Okay

What the fuck

SpongeBob, a UE5 title, hits 200fps at native 1440p

[unreal ridge]

Hey, so you are this Shay, author of mods yep?

[tacit glacier]

Meanwhile STALKER 2 at native 1440p and highest settings can barely do 60 or 30 at times

[odd fjord]

maybeeee

[tacit glacier]

... Did we just witness murder

[odd fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-christian-bale-maybe-not-really-i-dont-know-gif-18372643

[warped monolith]

he left the server, we're safe

[warped monolith]

peak

[tacit glacier]

I saw 4 links then disappeared

[warped monolith]

oh it's BOS's ragequit bot doing god's work

it autodeletes, blacklists and bans scammers posting those links

@worn ledge thanks bruv

[tacit glacier]

Unironically fun to play
But legit, it's hilarious how SpongeBob is more playable than STALKER 2 and Borderlands 4.

[warped monolith]

its graphics probably aren't nearly as intensive

[tacit glacier]

I wouldn't know

I just benchmarked the first level

Benchmark meaning I played a bit

No stutters, no upscaling, no frame gen
Just 170-200 FPS

[warped monolith]

[tacit glacier]

It's not an open world, so comparing it to STALKER 2 is somewhat unfair
But even then, comparing it to other UE5 games that aren't open world it kind of blows them out of the park

[remote eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-its-peak-its-way-too-peak-its-honestly-more-than-peak-meme-gif-14944785001351870503

[tacit glacier]

There was only one instance of pop in
And it was when I loaded the game
After that no pop in either

[unreal ridge]

I wanted to thank you for your amazing mods, I was using your a life system year ago at 1.2 patch and it was the best mod so far
Unfortunately atm I find A life found a way more natural, I believe your mod will work as intended when you will have a possibility to adjust rendering distance for squad spawns
But again, I just wanted to thank you for such a good work and your effort to the community!
I use your Save hubs and campfire mods and death animations atm

[unreal ridge]

But to be true also, GSC could do a better job on optimization at the first place
I’m Ukrainian but this was a scum at release to pay so much money for unfinished game
Only one relief they update it and not as payed content
So they might rehabilitate

[tacit glacier]

I feel like performance will only become more respectable once they upgrade to UE 5.6

[rotund mantle]

agreed

[unreal ridge]

Will see

Let’s just pray

[warped monolith]

and we can expect that to happen only after the PS5 release

... and that's me being optimistic

inb4 they only do it when releasing the first DLC

[unreal ridge]

Thanks god they didn’t become same as Ubisoft and didn’t start to try criticizing players for playing their games)

[tacit glacier]

5.6 multithreads a lot of things so CPU side of the game would likely see an improvement.
But that is a big "what if"

[unreal ridge]

But they made a mistakes with OG remastered

Same as Rockstar

Same as other studios

[warped monolith]

many mistakes.

[unreal ridge]

Like you can give mod authors coffee and sandwich and they will do it better

When studio have millions budget

And result is like if I will study development for a month and will develop something using GPT help

I never understood this

Starting from Elder Scrolls anniversary

Just pay guy a money and take his piece of art

Instead of pushing useless addons that are worse quality

[odd fjord]

Awhh thanks for the kind words man!

[unreal ridge]

You definetely deserve it!

[unkempt river]

Hey guys I have a tech question about stalker 2 and thinking in playing it on a laptop can I write my specs of my laptop and you guys tell me if is wort to buy it ?

[slim moth]

sure why not

[unkempt river]

I have Intel core 11th i7-11800h 2.30GHz
16gb memory
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 3050 ti laptop GPU

Do you need any other spec?

My laptop is a Acer nitro 5

Windows 11 64 bits

[slim moth]

maybe 1080p

medium low

[unkempt river]

I know that my graphic card have 4gb and is a shit

I see some videos on YouTube of people playing it and looks nice even in 50 fps or so but the fps drop sometimes

I really want to play the game but I dont want to be like fighting with the pc because of the bad optimization

[slim moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/768

maybe this or what Whoosh uses cause he also has a 3050

[unreal ridge]

So I use currently lossless scalling app
On top of that S2 optimized tweaks (Base) but I assume you need to use lowered config
And then on top of it sec

The one grokks recommended the best
I’m not at my PC right now

But you need engine.ini config which Grock recommended

And in this config you should change only 1 thing - enable shader warmup

Then it will be more stable and overall not buggy

@unkempt river

Also check this

Sec

https://youtu.be/814y2OPLsX0?si=g_WwSn2FNOvkjmt9

Some of this have changed through patches but overall it have almost same kind of impact on performance

So you can use this guide to understand what options you can squeeze to max and what better to sacrifice and make low

[steep prairie]

hows stalker 2 mod scene like now? I wasn't that happy with the vanilla play, and tried to play 3-4 months later and mods were still very fragmented in functionality/compatibility decided to let things cook lil more

[unreal ridge]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion message

All compatible for 1.6.1

[unkempt river]

i will see that i already have the lossless so maybe i try it with another game to tested but im not sure about the game its seems that is very bad opti

[unreal ridge]

Yes it is badly optimized

[unkempt river]

i will let it sit for a while then

[unreal ridge]

Sorry to hear that but it is what it is

More likely with your laptop even with optimization beats you can get around 40 unstable FPS

[unkempt river]

yeah that is what i read so im gonna let it on the future games

[round gull]

bro i was triyng to instal and its not working

[unreal ridge]

@round gull sorry what you tried to install?

[round gull]

i think i fixed it i had to use one of the mirror links for the gamma file

[unreal ridge]

It’s not gamma channel bro, it’s Stalker 2 related channel

@round gull https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/922555488665743391

[round gull]

my fault

i clicked wrong thing myb

[unreal ridge]

All good

[steep prairie]

gotcha thanks that seems like good bit of mods I was already trying to use was more wondering if the cohesive modded experienced felt much better yet I know like mods for having mutants respawning and encounters was pretty buggy/non-functional for awhile

and honestly I was hoping for a 12.7x55mm weapon mod still

I love that thing so much

[unreal ridge]

Check A life found a way atm for spawns
I would recommend this one

[steep pivot]

I never knew about the generators in stalker 2

But only accessible if you sided with Scar, and has done his quest.

What a shame. It's hard to replay the game with the amount of walking and running. Re obtaining the damn end game gears lol.

Tho you can actually exploit it, but having a quest to go there is a nicer feel

[unreal ridge]

If I’m not mistaken you can easily got there by redone one of the choices

Maybe you have a savegame from back then

[clever pawn]

does the game still suck?

[mossy jasper]

it's fine

the end game actually turns gold

[late kernel]

Still raw

[grizzled fossil]

@dusky grotto WHAT IS THAT NAME????

[grizzled fossil]

@icy basin u shld prob do somn abt that

[summer vapor]

[grizzled fossil]

[slim moth]

in the benninging

[steep pivot]

Birch and that chick from pripyat is finnaaa fineee

Pripyat for me is the place in stalker 2

The immersion from that area is insane.

Like too many realistic angles lol

Sircaa also had it

Btw I just found out this game called Zero Sievert, apparently, it's a mixture of stalker and tarkov but pixelated. It looks damn good.

[icy basin]

Why was this never a ping

A kick will do

[small junco]

Is there any modpacks for stalker 2 that overhaul it ?

[unreal ridge]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion message

[visual minnow]

Is there a mod which allows you to place items ANYWHERE in your stash, and not have them all automatically filter to the top?

[wanton arch]

hope some one does that

[stuck seal]

aint that good ngl

[stuck seal]

is endgame actually good ?

[mossy jasper]

holy shit it was like i got steroids put into my heart

You will love it

(be warned it's extremely hard)

[warped monolith]

it's just like the original trilogy
dozen exo enemies coming out in waves, oneshotting you

[stuck seal]

thats good

[stuck seal]

sounds actually fun

[warped monolith]

[unreal ridge]

There is also this game Misery

Looks more like Call of Pripyat liminal spaces

[tribal totem]

Why is there barely any mods for console version of stalker 2?

[warped monolith]

less players, more difficult to mod, probably less interest in modding it there

[tribal totem]

shame, tough I hope that nexus mods will allow Russian mods to exist for stalker 2 on their site (not trying to be controversial just founding the original issue just stupid)

[unreal ridge]

They blocking Russian language based mods? @tribal totem

[tribal totem]

Well not just that but most things that are Russian even radio mods replacing Ukrainian music with Russian music gets removed

[slim moth]

It's because every single mod that is published through console has to be vetted so there isn't any exploits/copyright/etc

[tribal totem]

idk if it’s gsc world or just nexus mods

[tribal totem]

Oooohhhh okay

[slim moth]

it makes it drag/take forever cause they have to comb through mods and make sure they are within their terms and conditions that Microsoft or Sony is allowed to have

[tribal totem]

But I don’t think it’s gsc world or nexus mods being 100 % russophobic so don’t throw accusations like that even though they’re behavior in my opinion is a bitch sketchy with gsc world though they aren’t 100 % russophobic as I said just now

[tribal totem]

Ooooohhh okay yeah that makes more sense

[unreal ridge]

Wild

[unreal ridge]

I’m Ukrainian but to be true I hate Ukrainian propaganda too, that’s only separate people
Propaganda for each side the same and it doesn’t help community - 100%

Dont wanna to go deep into this you know

But I didn’t know they block it so hard

[slim moth]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1744?tab=files

dope

[molten osprey]

performance

mods that work on pc rarely work on xbox series x, mods that work on xbox series x not really work on xbox series s

[tribal totem]

Oh that’s nice to hear a Ukrainians perspective, I had some suspections that there is some level of Russophobia in gsc world or maybe that’s just Ukrainian propaganda don’t really know, but thank you for saying your opinion :3

[tribal totem]

Oh okay thanks

[unreal ridge]

More likely shaming for not being Russophobic when in fact all the wars is just geopolitical games
We are all humans and I know a lot people from Russia that are decent human beings
Also I was practicing kung fu and my master was Russian veteran that went through Afgani war
So you know, I don’t have this issue to be mad only because someone is other nationality
I would judge direct actions if they are pointed on hatred actions and against human beings, but not because someone is other nationality

But propaganda hit people from both sides

[tribal totem]

oh okay I don’t know if the mods would like this conversation to get very heated or emotionally but we can talk about this privately via dm’s one day I am fine with that

[tacit glacier]

Hmmmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDdeDWyqbE

Okay this is actually pretty good

See all those trader dots?
Those are NPC's traversing the map.

Mutants go the same treatment, just dont show up on map

[odd fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-photo-doctor-talking-doctor-swamps-stalker-gif-4007460491483581262

thats fake news im sure of it!

[tacit glacier]

Tell me lies~
Tell me sweet little lies~

[tacit glacier]

On a serious note, where can one get this mod? 👀

[queen elk]

where are these people now who said it's impossible from some random guy without any support on the old version of the engine already?

[tacit glacier]

tbf they said it when SDK wasn't a thing

Now I don't know if SDK was used, if it wasn't then yeah, they can get called out
But if this is thanks to the SDK, then they were right

[odd fjord]

im not following chief

[odd fjord]

nexusmods end of nov

[tacit glacier]

Ah, gotcha

[odd fjord]

i want to do a solid 3 weeks of testing first with my usual test group, a-life and the world simulation aint no small thing i guess 🤣

[wanton arch]

Do you guys think stalker 2 will get a makeover similar to anomaly or gamma

I think its possible but its way less accessible

maybe more stable tho

[late kernel]

Depends on how much the modding kit will evolve for the game

[kindred wraith]

hot to change brightness in text file if any one knows?

from 6.2 to for 6.6 example

[silver orchid]

Possibly the "russianphobia" of GSC is not much as GSC can pretend or whatever

I mean, they (apparently) still are using russian as the main language for the development and even GSC it's using ChErnobyl for his development thingis.

[keen thunder]

Is STALKER 2 more GPU or CPU intensive?

[summer vapor]

Apparently it's more GPU intensive

[stiff mist]

It's only CPU intensive in the hub zone like Rostok.

[tribal totem]

I mean okay, then that just means they are just grifters and more scummy tbh

which I think is just pointless to be in the first place since it isn’t very popular with why they are doing

[iron prawn]

hey how do I play the Stalker trilogy with a bit of prettying up?

the OG ones

oh sick I won a prize for being so cool. it's in xp-levels, I can put this on my resume

[unreal ridge]

Anthology

I can't invite to the server unfortunately
you can play Shadow of Chornobyl and Call of Pripyat with their modpack, soon they will add Clear Sky

[iron prawn]

I thought clear sky was probably the weakest of the trilogy anyway

what's the server called and I'll join it?

[unreal ridge]

Sec

Anomaly ANTHOLOGY

@iron prawn

you can check DM, their mods shoot me the link

[severe hill]

yo, how many playable factions are in gamma? ive seen people with 12 but i only have 9

[vestal escarp]

U have to complete some quests to unlock the other ones

[rotund mantle]

games look fine as is

[iron prawn]

but if they can look prettier why not?

[nova lake]

most mods make sweeping changes to the game, unfortunately

[silver orchid]

SoC Update 1.4.2, Sky Renewal Mod and GSWR Wasted Sky.

[nova lake]

if available use Rammakens mods

[wanton arch]

Both

[late kernel]

UE5 games in general runs and looks like shit, so both

[warped monolith]

[wanton arch]

consider 13600K and Ryzen 5 7700 can give you least 100 FPS in huge population town in Stalker 2

and it's GPU intensive ?

no

you actually can play at low quality but good luck on seeing anything

(including optimized mod)

• Lowest rendering range

[keen thunder]

I play it on my rig that’s

CPU - R7 3800X
GPU - 2070 Super
RAM - 16gb

And I have a lot, a lot of issues. Like, the game will sometimes just restart my whole entire PC. Or, it just freezes and locks up a lot. Guess I’ll have to wait until I upgrade my computer to actually play and enjoy the damn game…. -_-

[dusk trench]

stalker 2 is ass

btw

[austere kraken]

and the sky is blue
any other shocking news?

[dusk trench]

then why play it?

if it have shitty perfomance

[austere kraken]

I don't play it retard

[dusk trench]

its stalker 2 chat

so why talk about game that no one here dont play

[austere kraken]

so you do play it?

[dusk trench]

i played

on xbox

and i can confirm it have shit perfomance cause its on UE5

[iron prawn]

I'll try to remember this but might ask again

I only have a 3070 8gb and ryzen whatever i7 equivalent, so whatever works on that, I only "need" 1080p

16gb of ram too

in a laptop with a smashed screen, unfortunately, climbing carabiner accident

I'm a real life streylock. though for some reason climbing isn't part of the STALKER world when you'd think it probably should be

also I don't have full auto guns or a suit like his, or anomaly detectors or really any weapons beyond high dollar knives and some other stuff

[keen thunder]

Strelok**

[iron prawn]

yeah

I even have the buzzcut with thinning hair

[keen thunder]

[iron prawn]

I'm fine with it. over 35 your hair goes crap for most people

unless you're super lucky

just buzz it and own it

I go number zero, fashion tips! number zero looks best, it gives the illusion of more hair if it's thinning a bit, otherwise you need an LGBT haircut with product and all the rest, we are manly men

who sit indoors with computers 😐

I LIVED SoC shortly after it came out, I got really good, the gun physics were excellent

I'd be crap now, but I have a better mouse and razer mechanical keyboard still in box preparing for some games I like

[queen elk]

lol

I have never seen worse shooting than in SOC, it was absolutely fucked up in every way, I don't know if I've ever played an FPS with worse gunplay

Clear Sky only fixed it, added the mechanics of upgrading weapon repairs and was a better part, despite its flaws, it is the first part that I cannot play after all these years and is definitely worse than its successors

[iron prawn]

I said Rose tinted glasses before I said anything else you Muppet

I played it shortly after it came out. I thought clearsky was more played out, cop was the one I enjoyed the most, except the last tunnel part with the machine gun nests that was just a straight line through it

But after that it got better

[iron prawn]

honestly I probably won't waste my time with any of this shit

rose tinted glasses, nothing could ever live up to these games playing them over 20 years ago

2025? 19 years ago for SOC, that's when I played it I'm pretty sure, that's probably older than you are duszman

[iron prawn]

and for the record, when it came out, literally NO other game incorporated the weight of the gun in how it "handled" with moving the screen and gun around, the ballistics of the bullet, the different ammo types and shit, it was the first of it's kind, and you just assumed "OLOOLOOO IT WZ SHIT IVE NEVER PLAYED AN FPS WITH WORSE GUNPLAY"
retard, BEFORE that game, or since? you fucking idiot.

I said gun physics, the physics of the actual guns, YOU said gunplay, which was still better than anything when it came out

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/calm-down-chill-martin-freeman-interview-breathe-gif-5362498

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-stare-sesame-street-rocco-death-stare-gif-24438342

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-distance-strelok-stalker-stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl-gif-9607769205614768453

[iron prawn]

if elmo was real I'd sell him to chinese billionaires as a "potency cure" with explicit instructions to eat him alive

[icy basin]

whut

[iron prawn]

he is by far the worst muppet

before him they were basically like... adults, all of them, adults with disorders. and they taught stuff. Elmo is an annoying red fuck, who constantly goes on about Elmo (in 3rd person), and ruined sesame street

[kindred violet]

Someone has strong opinions about something it seems

[icy basin]

Sesame Street has a massive research team behind it, but also this is deeply offtopic and I'd suggest taking off your Newcomer role in #⏩start-confirm to be able to access channels where you can freely rant about Elmo

[tardy bronze]

Wake up to Sesame Stalker

Someone should mod Muppets to replace the mutants

[kind crow]

Anyone know if there's a mod that just "disables" mutant looting? Everything was fine earlier in my save but now I'm just unable to loot any mutant regardless if it shows up or not.. I messed around with FOV values and crouching and everything but I just can't loot anymore..

The only mod I added mid-playthrough was the one that removes psy radiation since I got that bug where phantoms wouldn't stop spawning..

Unless there's something else I'm missing

[silver lava]

тут все на энгиш?

[feral wharf]

I've never been able to loot mutants and I only run performance mods and the groks mutant health mod, so I don't think they can be looted but I just started playing and I currently can't play because my game crashes at a certain point constantly

So take my word with a grain of salt salt

[kindred violet]

Get rid of groks mod

It's severely outdated

[kind crow]

I figured it out.. It was actually that psy radiation mod blocking me from looting

[kindred violet]

Please only use mods updated for 1.6

[summer vapor]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1748

This one should work fine

[nova lake]

if you are ever unable to loot a mutant
its a mod

its always a mod

[iron prawn]

what the fuck does that frog mean

[kind crow]

Ye I was more hoping that someone had the issue before and knew exactly which mod it was and could give me a pointer.. In the end, I was that person

[unreal ridge]

This guys stated in description that to use it with 1.6 you dont need to replace any cfg files

He used now a bpatch method

Incompatibility may come because some mods are not bpatched

In that case you can try to use method where you put mods in custom order

So 90% of the issues with mods usually come because people don’t read

[storm python]

hey

is stalker 2 good ?

or is it worth to buy and is the balance better than release ? no more bullet sponge chineras and better ai ?

[icy basin]

#╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

Keep waiting

[unreal ridge]

It got better
With the support game receive and mods you can install now it costs it’s money, but if you’d ask me the same question at the release I would recommend you not to buy it
Looks like GSC saw what happens with studios that trying to scum players (like Ubisoft) and decided to work properly

[storm python]

thx

[unreal ridge]

You welcome

[warped monolith]

about many things apparently

I believe that's what the kids call 'unhinged'

[wooden glade]

I wouldn't say the situation is that cynical, it's just the unfortunate reality of S2 being released too early. all the work we're seeing so far is GSC actually completing the game

you can call it early access without the title.

[unreal ridge]

I can partially agree
I see this situation like this: if they would try to make the game fully finished nad took their time to polish it they might loose competition amongst alot of other titles that were published through this year
So they decided to publish it like that and then try to fix all of the issues that will appear
It could be disaster if they would be iresponsible around that, but since they constantly working on fixing the game and trying to improve it and trying to cooperate with community this is fair enough for most of the players
So it's not that bad atm and maybe this is most efficient way for them to make the things done @wooden glade

[wooden glade]

for what it's worth, the GSC staffs that I've been talking to during SDK closed beta has been very passionate about their game.

they're definitely not letting S2 die early, it's got a long life to come still.

or let it rot like Bethesda, I'm still kinda pissy with how FO4 turned out

[warped monolith]

ofc it's got a long life, they still have to release at least two DLCs

if they don't fix and finish the game, no one's gonna buy them

[unreal ridge]

That's promising

[summer vapor]

This certainly gives hope, but where is all the Unfinished Work? Where are the quests? Why did they make a custom unreal engine and then immediately port the game to a different version?

[silver orchid]

ehem

the next DLC is mostly about restore cut-content

soooo most of the cut-content is going to be restored by a paywall

except thingis like Korogod that are undeground

[warped monolith]

late-stage capitalism at its finest

[silver orchid]

because Korogod it's fucked on retail, it's "break"

[summer vapor]

Still no DLC trailers...

[silver orchid]

wait the first DLC on the early-early 2026

[unreal ridge]

I think it because it takes a lot of work to do and now they trying to get things done in a right way and from this point it’s not a fast process
Especially if they port everything on a newer engine it will take time to make sure all previous things working properly before adding something new

[summer vapor]

There's no information other than rumors, DLC also needs to be updated to 5.5.4...

[unreal ridge]

I rather wait longer but receiver finished work

[silver orchid]

already there a lot of thingis datamined about the first DLC

[unreal ridge]

Then get instant but buggy update

[silver orchid]

included a good part of the plot

[unreal ridge]

Not correct

They put new references to the game

And a game for a people who want to find a clues

[summer vapor]

Do you mean ARG?

[unreal ridge]

Where they can find and decrypt messages in order to receive references

[silver orchid]

and personally for me the mainpoint was a deception

[unreal ridge]

Yes

And people already testing new stuff if I understand it right
So…

It will be unfair to say there are no information

Not so many? I can agree

But no information at all - i cant agree

[silver orchid]

ehem

[unreal ridge]

It can be seen only in comparison

For me it’s more then enough

[summer vapor]

the average gamer needs a video with new content.

[unreal ridge]

But for other people it might be not

[unreal ridge]

Yea, I understand and this what I said a sec ago, some people want more and that’s okay because they used to it from other sources before

And that’s ok

But you can’t please everyone all of the time

[silver orchid]

On the release of the 1.2 i was thinking that perhaps Iron Forest and CNPP will be free-content but🤧

[summer vapor]

They didn't even make pictures for all the mutants after the main character's death.

[warped monolith]

I don't think they ever planned to do that

would've been cool though, like Metro 2033 did.

[iron prawn]

metro 2033 was cool but on rails, literally

games are always released too soon now and you have to download heaps of shit to get them to even work

I'm waiting until s2 works before I play it

[icy merlin]

Am I the only one having issues with the bandage not fixing my bleed?

[ripe vale]

Performance on the game is still peak horrible

[sonic flower]

Howdy, anyone know of a good stalker 2 mod for the lighting going inside/outside. Been waiting to play till I find one that really tones it down

[snow ermine]

If they give the DLC before A-Life is 100% I'm not even interested

[warped monolith]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[slim moth]

DWO offers a alternative exposure

accompanied with U+ yields best results

[sonic flower]

I will look into that, thank you!

[silver orchid]

prepare the non-interest

[coral crater]

I think 50% of the no a-life issue could be solved by implementing the pda messaging

It helps to make the zone feel more alive outside of the players immediate radius

[warped monolith]

gamma/anomaly/misery/whatever features are unlikely to make their way to stalker 2

[coral crater]

Yeah I know, it’s just a bit unfortunate because they’ve done the map update and detail really well (despite the size decrease due to missing areas) and the player is left to just aimlessly wander without having something to push them to certain areas (like needing a guide or something as simple as a death notice)

[silver orchid]

"The map size" is not bigger on trilogy areas and that, already the trilogy areas in HoC are much bigger (for example the fatass of Zaton, Iron Forest and Red Forest), and GSC did that of PDA dynamic news of death like in 2003-2004.

[coral crater]

If you read my response in the correct context, i implied the map area is smaller in S2. I know it’s bigger in the trilogy. And I know they did messaging with x-ray in the earlier games, that’s not in question.

[warped monolith]

2003-2004? In what game?

[silver orchid]

i had a bug, fixed.

[silver orchid]

Shadow of Chernobyl, i just remember that the system exist on the builds

https://youtu.be/Nbsx7cn9CAY

[slim moth]

definitely way more openworld in that build

[silver orchid]

that version doens't fake open alife

[sonic flower]

sorry to come back after so long but I finally got around to search those...and I can't find something based on DWO or U+. Could you tell me the longer names of what you are talking about?

think you mean dynamic weather overhaul for DWO

but still not sure about U+

this one?

[slim moth]

yes

[true yew]

Bruh, so I tried saving up animal parts for honta's quest only to get a free nvg at desalination plant

[trim totem]

oh you dont say 💔

[nova lake]

AMK features can, this is my cope

[kindred violet]

Amk?

[icy basin]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/stalker/comments/1kfbgv/so_what_does_amk_do/

Basically, an old mod for SoC

[kindred violet]

Ah, I see

[icy basin]

Added A-Life

[remote eagle]

ah yes the mod where i used cam_inert 0 to not puke

[dreamy thicket]

There is an offer discount for upgrade on steam, am laughing reading comments, no spared lol

[tacit glacier]

Bro, Solarint is already making Soundscape Overhaul for this game, lmao

[warped monolith]

SAIN for Stalker 2 when

[nova lake]

AMK is the mod that expanded AI to have offline actions and have ingame NPC announcements

Sidorovich edition isnt basic AMK

https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker/downloads/amk-1-4-eng

[tacit glacier]

ayo

gas mask overlay with rain drops

I know I'm stretching this post far to claim gas mask overlays will be a thing, but considering they are kind of needed for rain on screen to make sense

Honestly I really need a major optimization patch
I pushed through on my first run to finish the game but I can't do a second run now due to how much the fps drops and how stuttery the game gets

[silver orchid]

AMK 1.4.3 (or 1.4.2, i don't remember) was planned to change the A-Life, but was cancelled.

[warped monolith]

how about important stuff like the so called engine update, optimizations, cut content and whatnot

[silver orchid]

NDA

[warped monolith]

NDA more like NDF

[tacit glacier]

tbf we can already assume the engine update got pushed to 2026

It's kind of a major stepping stone

[silver orchid]

Well, has sense

[golden hazel]

Squirrel Life 2.0

[icy basin]

SoC continues to have no ALife

[silver orchid]

has A-Life😡

[icy basin]

[silver orchid]

but i think that HoC with a better system of HoC-thingis would be a better system

[warped monolith]

bro's got elton john's rose tinted glasses

[queen elk]

my opinion about the current AI scripting is not terrible for this type of game it is ok

only you actually go, kill, go, kill, move on like in every stalker, you don't really care if these suckers were generated 50 meters next to you a moment ago

Of course, it cannot be denied in any way that they promised A-life 2.0 and it was a fraud

[slim moth]

https://tenor.com/view/lulu-gifs-chilltown-bb7-big-brother7-dr-will-gif-15254070

[wanton arch]

is gamma better

than stalker 2

i heard it is by far

[warped monolith]

[wanton arch]

seriously asking

cuz 100 gb is a big

[late kernel]

Old Trilogy didn't have functioning A-Life until CoP

[silver orchid]

SoC has an functional A-Life (NPCs throught levels brrrrr) and CS has an buggy A-Life (+ incomplete thingis), and CoP don't has sim_combat.

[late kernel]

Full Alife Simulation didn't exist until CoC and Anomaly came to being

[silver orchid]

well, a proper A-Life, yes, CoC did that, the trilogy or is incomplete or is buggy, not smth like CoC A-Life.

[warped monolith]

"stalker 2 a-life is a scam"
shadow of chernobyl a-life:

stand in camp for 15 mins
get up
walk out
die to anomaly/mutants/bandits/military
fresh stalker spawns at camp
cycle repeats

[late kernel]

Anomaly/Gamma brainrot

[silver orchid]

SoC A-Life was the first NPC walking simulator on retail stalker

[late kernel]

Comparing a fan made freeplay mod to a mostly story focused game made by historically mid devs

truly a gammatard moment

[silver orchid]

and CS A-Life in theory is the best A-Life of the trilogy but is buggy and by that is more linear than should be (the NPCs just use like two paths) + it's incomplete.

[warped monolith]

If they had fleshed out the faction wars system in CS some more it would've been a great sandbox-ish experience

but even modders can't make it work

so I guess it'll just remain a dream

[late kernel]

Can't polish a turd

[silver orchid]

Yes, what a fucking tragedy that CS was rushed.

[silver orchid]

idk if are complete systems or no but there two mods called faction wars and faction commander are freeplay about faction wars, sooo perhaps have a better system.

[warped monolith]

I'm only familiar with Anomaly's "warfare mode" and it's extremely awful

[silver orchid]

the best A-Life Faction Wars-focused that i tried is the one from Global War, and is going to be much better in the 0.5 (has a new engine and a faction-editor) but the engine of the public builds is a constant "20 crashes per day"

[wanton arch]

is this all u stalkers do

argue

about trivialities

s2 is bad poorly optimized and has bad ai

[warped monolith]

"bad ai" is exactly what we're talking about, mr. Kettle

[nova lake]

the Alife in COP is cut down from the originals, and SOC had permanency of NPCs outside of loaded maps as well as roaming NPCs outside of loaded maps
and CS added offline NPC Fighting

they had alife

at absolute basis that, S2 lacks

[wanton arch]

is there a channel to discuss gamma

since i want to ask things about gamma

[warped monolith]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[dawn bluff]

to answer the alife discussion, i think GSC did a tricky move there

coding but excluding the alife into the game but outside the gameplay

just to turn it on with a patch and expect everyone to shoutout miracle

or they just failed to implement alife

into unity