╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting

[quasi bough]

in case of marketing and community support, rockstar fails everywhere

and nearly limitless money pool lol

[jolly rapids]

their marketing is top notch wdym, all i get are ads for new gta online expansions and shit like that

i mean think about the hype behind the first trailer for gta 6

[quasi bough]

I ment monetarisation team. milking shit ...ubt okay. people buy. where is demand, there is product. GTA ojnline is unbearable...always was. but single player content of rockstar is always shinig star

RDR2 is their magnum opus

Just like GAMMA is @midnight wind 's magnum opus and he should get French state honorary funeral when he dies

[ancient oar]

rdr2 sucks LOL

[wicked adder]

No one touch that bait

[ancient oar]

reels in to let the water settle

[jolly rapids]

no ragebait rn... i think cyberpunk succeeds rdr2 in story

[mint holly]

Rockstar is funny because they can improve so much in graphics and everything but their games all still have the mission design and shooting mechanics of GTA 3 like a time capsule

[warped monolith]

[warped monolith]

The horses' balls shrink in winter time

[mint holly]

Yeah but if I walk one centimeter in the wrong direction the mission fails. Truly incredible

[warped monolith]

peak game design

[west moth]

At least rdr2 has a life

[oak onyx]

hey y'all. was wondering how far stalker 2 has come since release? i haven't gotten on since abt a week after release when i beat it and was wondering if its come far enough for another playthrough to be worth it. stuff like a-life has been fixed right?

[wintry mountain]

No a-life hasn't been fixed. Performance is still subpar. Some quests bugs might have been improved but I wouldn't count on that either.

[warped monolith]

Yes... but no. They claim to have improved some aspects of it in recent patches iirc, but there's still a lot of work to be done

[wintry mountain]

It's not really that a-life was broken. It's just completely unfinished, and a glorified spawn system around 100-125m with minimal contextual actions functioning.

[west moth]

My guess is at least 6 months till the game is finished, maybe even a year

[heavy hedge]

stalker 2 will leave early access in 14 months

screenshot this for when im right

delete the screenshot if im wrong though

i dont like being confronted by my failures

[west moth]

I hope you right

I'm waiting with my 1st playthru until its finished

[hushed garden]

I bet it'll be left to the modders to fix if the game lives on

[west moth]

Possible but i have a good feeling that they will work a lot on S2 because they want to make the franchise a long running thing

[quasi bough]

Depends. Both tell different stories

[past glacier]

ONE QUESTION! I am terrible at English, so I am using a translator. xD

Why does the lighting and reflections look so bad? is there any way to fix that?
even if i turn up the graphics it still looks terrible.

here are my specs
RTX 2060
32 GB RAM
Ryzen 5 5600g

[thorn plume]

UE5 and S2 devs moment.

[split crown]

yeah man, even with a heftily edited engine.ini, the lighting and shadows in-game are still questionable.

[golden hazel]

Absolutely lumen'd upon

[modest crescent]

helo can you use our FPS in games

[stuck condor]

Lumen

Since I've tweaked some settings in lumen I'm sure you can increase its quality using UE5 commands

Look for "how to make lumen less noisy" or anything similar

[true yew]

Dear monolith, this looks like it came out in the 2010s

[lime umbra]

Honestly I think it's fine design wise

But performance wise it's awful

[outer depot]

puttem in a coffin

[quasi bough]

No way to fix. Stalker 2 uses dogshit Lumen lighting, which even with terrible temportal aa or dlss looks like absolute crap and eats performance.

[golden hazel]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[west moth]

[true yew]

The A-life in question

[ripe hollow]

Guys, this super-nice fella in red just sold his car to me. It has anti-anomaly paint and can drive you from cordon to Pripyat in minutes. He said i need to charge it first by putting an artifact on the hood and waiting for a little, but i've already waited for a pretty long time, yet car doesn't seem to work. Did i miss something or it's just a bug?

[ripe hollow]

Change dlss files to dlss 4 and use ultra+ mod. You can download better graphics AND performance from nexus

[finite needle]

Wait until you find out how a-life worked on older games.

I can't get this fascination with NPCs routines btw. Man, fix gunplay first

I don't care about Ivan going from Garbage to Malachite or dying in the process just for me to not notice because I don't really care

[ripe hollow]

May be i've played og games too long ago, but i really don't get the no a-life rant

The only thing they should fix is the laughable radius of enemy spawn

[ripe hollow]

The gunplay seems to be intentionaly made like... this

Modders already fixed it though

Combination of Better ballistics + less tanky humans + lower mutant health really makes a difference

[finite needle]

I understand is more in line with older games, and I think the bigger problem with Stalker 2 is that the game is very genuine to the originals, but the player base has changed and so has the game. I've heard a lot of complaints about guns having tier despite it being exactly like it was back in the days and so on. Some of these complaints are actually valid. The A-life one being the biggest one kinda surprises me, considering how the biggest issue about it was enemies spawning in front of you or on your back exclusively to fight you, which was definitely bullshit.

gaming discourse has always been a toxic cesspool of people hyperfixated on single features anyway, just now it's worse

[wintry mountain]

The spawn system could be fixed with the current limited system already did it ourselves

Gun play is bad partially because everything npcs do is synced between the squad members. So they’re dumb as rocks and predictable. So they just made things spongy to compensate.

[finite needle]

And that's very similar to the older games, my fear is that this is intended. A-life, as you said, can be fixed. But it's a barely noticeable secondary feature that is neat. I'm gonna shoot my gun the whole time, and while it's ok I think it's now at odds with waht the fanbase has morphed into with the time, i.e. a bunch of milsim enthusiasts.

My complaints comes from the fact that I realized I now prefer the "newer" modded gunplay to the one they propose, and I have 0 faith base game is going to change that, because it's functional. A-life I simply don't care about tbh.

Make ai spawn then I transition from zone to zone, make some small loading screens if you have, make them spawn 200 meters instead of 100, that'll be enough and I think achievable by gsc without need of mods. For gunplay, I doubt it.

[wintry mountain]

Eh they could fix gun play pretty easily. Their biggest problems are performances, bugs, and most of the base mechanics are just tossed in “working” enough to pass but 80% unfinished.

A good chunk of performance is wasted by the fact physics and collisions are an unfinished disaster. So when render distance is increased the problems are going to increase with it. For some reason each patch is making them worse

[ripe hollow]

I am sure they don't consider it broken

You don't make pseudogiant able to eat 400+ AR bullets by mistake

[wintry mountain]

lol

You should see some of the absurd numbers they have in configs just to make the game “work” it’s intentionally rushed that’s about it

[ripe hollow]

More like 40-60 meters, i legit measured the distance at which they spawn for a radiant barmen quest

[wintry mountain]

Spawns are 95-125m

[ripe hollow]

Also, monoliths appearing right in front of your eyes during yaniv attack

[wintry mountain]

Render bubble is 95m

But yes they have spawns set to be mostly in render

Idk why they settled for the current temporary spawn system other than to save time knowing it would be replaced later.

[true yew]

isn't that the trunk? The hood is on the front of car, man. Unless this one is backwards

Currently driving mine to pripyat, can't check rn

[ripe hollow]

It's Zaporozhets, engine is in the back

[true yew]

What artifact did you put on? Have you tried a stronger one?

[ripe hollow]

It is an electrical one!

[true yew]

Maybe a thunderberry would work

If not, damn.

[wintry mountain]

Tushkans don’t want artifact they want treat compensation to run on hamster wheel

https://tenor.com/view/little-shop-gif-20618164

[nimble spruce]

What’s the consensus, skiff ending canon?

[past glacier]

That's what I did, now the game looks amazing xD
Still ghosting, but well, hopefully it's something the devs will fix eventually.

Ultra+ can be used with other performance mods? Do you know any?

[ripe hollow]

Nah, it's UE5 and lumen, plus 2060 is kind of outdated

[ripe hollow]

What chromatic aberration anomaly does?

[round bronze]

This:

[warped monolith]

makes the game fugly

[ripe hollow]

Yeah but, what it DOES?

[warped monolith]

↑

[golden hazel]

[west moth]

This happens in reality when light gets divided into its spectrum on the edge of a camera lens or glasses. Games these days add it to simulate "realism", like motion blur

[warped monolith]

ah yes, "realism" by imitating artifacts that occur on camera lenses but not the human eye
just like lens flare and depth of field

we should replace all protagonist character heads with huge tape cameras

then it'll be realistic

[west moth]

Yeah lots of bullshit nobody asked for. My personal favorite is motion blur

[late kernel]

They only look okay on photos or screenshots if you want to capture a certain vibe

for normal gameplay it aids

[proud ruin]

[golden hazel]

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bright-light-george-kusonoki-miller-joji-upgrade-song-flare-gif-18664862

[west moth]

God, the flares in old battlefield

https://orcz.com/images/4/4f/Bf4_lens_flare.jpg

What cocaine fueled manager idiot sees this and says "Yeah this is great sniff"

[tacit glacier]

It's apparently a space time anomaly as it slows down time on objects within it. You can notice it on bullets as they will slow down while passing through it.

[west moth]

Oh, its an anomaly for real? Oops

[golden hazel]

IT'S SO FUCKING CINEMATIC ABSOLUTE CINEMA

[amber acorn]

Good evening people I have a problem in the game all the magnifying glasses have no more aiming point I just get the magnification
anyone have an idea to solve the problem thx

[tough ibex]

is new save needed for items to spawn?

[proud ruin]

[humble hedge]

[proud ruin]

UE5 moment

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

[sinful escarp]

Every single person here has probably asked performance questions, but is 35fps average normal for a 3070?

And what the fuck is this

[west moth]

Bro's will go viral with this

[wary rune]

87 hours played, still no thunderberry

[wary rune]

laptop 3060 here, stable 60 fps but I had to turn the hair quality down

[sinful escarp]

haha, I have everything on lowest

[proud ruin]

UE5 moment

[wanton arch]

nah deadass though valky i uninstalled the first day it released when it came out looking like that

https://tenor.com/view/paint-some-happy-little-gif-26114172

looked like an oil painting idfk maybe i was supposed to sit 5 feet away and squint so it looks normal

[wary rune]

Yeah, the performance is still all over the place. There was one dude playing on some really low end GPU, can't remember which one exactly. On the other hand some people with RTX 3060 or better can't get more than 40 FPS

@icy bough how ya doing?

[sinful escarp]

My friend tried is on a 1650

got better fps probably

[sinful escarp]

Idc what it looks like I just want more than 1 fps

[wary rune]

Jeez, now I remember. This dude had over 100% GPU usage #╓☢stalker2™-chat-not-gamma-keep-waiting message

Funnily enough I have better FPS on Linux than on Windows

[late kernel]

If the next major update dont come with actual performance fixes and A-Life extension

Then this game is actually cooked

A sad excuse of a stalker game

[wary rune]

Choose one. Actual A-Life may take a huge hit on performance

[wanton arch]

ye my shit was on 1660 ti and had an actual stroke at zalizzya it was borderline concerning

like at one point it lagged so hard the imagery somehow warped and it became a different game like wtf

https://tenor.com/view/modelscope-text2video-text-2-video-minecraft-ai-gif-17402780690646652525

[tacit glacier]

Wait tf is that gun

[wanton arch]

wasnt joking

[wary rune]

Looks like some sort of DLC M701 Super

[humble hedge]

It's the M701 "Hunter"

[tacit glacier]

kek

GSC release edition upgrades.
My limited edition preorder is not enough

[grave oar]

wrong chat

and there he goes

[wary rune]

Are any of the unique weapons (besides Clusterfuck) even worth the effort? Their stats are mostly the same or they are irrevelant upon obtaining them (looking at you, Spitfire)

[true yew]

More like reskins

[hushed sky]

devs are so real for including signals OST into the modpack

[plush torrent]

Riemann is a very good gun but afaik the only benefit is its suppressed and you have the holo sight on it

Gabion kinda sucks compared to the other unique AS Val

[wary rune]

Then there's Veteran which is just a worse VSS variant

[golden hazel]

[proud ruin]

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[undone summit]

how it it worse?
i've taken it out for a spin, didn't feel worse.

[wary rune]

Damn, I kinda misremembered the stats, but still the only difference between unique VSS and a base one is that bse one has .01 better rate of fire so point stands. That's the only difference between the two guns so there's no point in even having the unique one

[undone summit]

oof

i think even the upgrades are not that different

too bad i like unique weapons and shitty guns

[icy bough]

good ? i did not open stalker 2 since december

[wanton arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254523116856545345/1310575436387975188/averageStalker2.gif

[round bronze]

the graphics look really good

Fps is more limited tough

[wanton arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254523116856545345/1310005270512009226/noAlife.gif

[grave oar]

a life will never be in stalker 2

[west moth]

Time to get a life in real life

[sinful escarp]

RIP bozo

[wicked adder]

He dindu nuffin

[sinful escarp]

Hey so i changed 'change ammo' to Y, but pressing it switches guns?...why?

[wicked adder]

Did you Unbind switching guns

[wary rune]

I hope you agreed to his terms and then killed him

[sinful escarp]

I can't find any 'switch guns'

[sinful escarp]

yessir

[plush torrent]

“It’s just a minor bug and it’ll be fully fixed asap” they said (we’re now closing in on 3 months post release and no change)

Haven’t even bothered to touch S2 since November

[plush torrent]

They look about as good as any heavily modded CoP with 1/4 the frame rate

[round bronze]

Did you play it yourself?

Yes heavly moded CoP looks good, but Stalker 2 also looks good

[sinful escarp]

I love walking into a building with people and dropping to 18fps

[plush torrent]

Yeah lol it’s barely playable on a 2060 and with GeForce now it just pixelates everything out of existence when you turn around slightly

[round bronze]

It looks weird yes but not "bad" and yes 30-60 fps

[round bronze]

Yes I played on Geforce and its super pixelated sadly

[plush torrent]

Completely unplayable with GeForce now tbh

[round bronze]

But I have a RTX 2060 and on 30fps it plays well

And I hope with further fixes it becomes better

I am not trying to defend it but I like how it looks

It really gives the roadside picnic vibes

[late kernel]

Lumen and Nanite makes stalker 2's lighting and level of details look garbage wdym

[round bronze]

This is on minimum graphics, I like how it looks

[late kernel]

still no flaslight shadow lol

[round bronze]

This also looks good, but he plays on a 4090 with 64 GB of RAM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8AyGzDXSHg&t=14s

If you play stalker 2 on a 4090 with 64 RAM it will also look good

I mean its your choice but I like this feel

[modest tusk]

in some ways it still looks like a game from 2015

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

pic of the devs who choose UE5

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

“nooo lumen is good!!! muh graphic fidelity!!!”

[outer depot]

it looks pretty good most of the time, but when it doesn't it looks pretty bad

[finite needle]

mfw I was in my parent's house this xmas and brought my laptop and had my brother take a glance at stalker 2 and go "huh I see they kept even the graphics in line with the old games"

I'm also here shitmouthing Stalker 2 but in truth I actually vastly prefer it to GAMMA at the moment

[split crown]

No greater truth has been displayed in a gif before.

[split crown]

Turn on frame gen if you want higher frames. (I also have a 3070 GPU)

[sinful escarp]

Haha frame gen on low frame rate, funny...

[split crown]

yes?

it literally doubles your frame rate.

[sinful escarp]

You don't notice the input lag?

[split crown]

Not with my edited Engine.ini, no

otherwise yeah there is visual input lag

[sinful escarp]

Damn your engine can break physics, fuck

[split crown]

don't worry, the memory leaks are still present at random intervals

[sinful escarp]

I managed to finally get up to 60fps on the wilds, doesn't save me from the 4fps drops near more than 1 npc though

[split crown]

yeaaaaaaaaaaah it's not great

[sinful escarp]

Made the decision to go back to GAMMA for the foreseeable future

[split crown]

totally understandable decision

[sinful escarp]

Had fun stumping the devs of the Ultra+ mod with my fucked frame rate though

[outer depot]

mfw the only place is still get noticeable frame drops is Red Forest which for some reason eats 20 fps the instant I step into it

[sinful escarp]

Ok fuckin 5090 gamer

I like to assume

[outer depot]

naw dude RX 6800 lmao

[sinful escarp]

[outer depot]

I don't know what's with Red Forest but it just dumpsters

maybe it's not aggressive enough in occlusion culling shit through the foliage or something

granted I always hated Red Forest in every stalker game so I just don't go there outside of story events

[sinful escarp]

I'm a Rostok girly

Duty for life

Yes sir I will kill more mercs for you in the Wild territory anything for you mr Duty

[covert eagle]

It is intended for ppl with 60 fps and above

Without base 60 it gets very laggy

[split crown]

best of luck with that then, I suppose. I just live with what my system manages in-game.

[covert eagle]

F

[split crown]

(my system isn't even all that bad; the game is just horrendously optimized, and it's given me a terrible impression of the Unreal Engine)

[outer depot]

my impression of UE5 in general is very negative, outside of Stalker it's usually pretty bad still

it's like they went "oh 16 gb cards are a thing so now we can just stop trying"

[split crown]

STALKER 2 is my only experience with playing a game using current-day Unreal Engine.

so yeah the impression is not great at all lmao.

[outer depot]

the only think I've seen it do okay in is fucking Palworld

[split crown]

That's hilarious

[outer depot]

and I think that's because they just aggressively optimized the shit out of it

my impression of UE4 was also not that positive though so

[wicked adder]

Best make your peace with UE5, because its here to stay

[outer depot]

as far as independent engines that do alright with big open world spaces, 4A Engine did "okay" with Metro: Exodus but it had some issues too (and a lot of that game also isn't actually very open)

yeah UE5 has the institutional and userbase inertia that it's just not going to go away

regardless of how ass it is

[late kernel]

UE5 stands for Unoptimized Engine 5

[outer depot]

that being said it definitely can be optimized a lot better than it is for Stalker 2 but it takes a major time investment to do it

[sinful escarp]

It fucking ran, thats a start

Get 100fps where stalker 2 gets 30

In environments bigger, more detailed and with people that have hair!!!

Remember the forest valley level? Butteryy smooth eith incredible LOD

[outer depot]

yeah I mean I really like Exodus and that's the closest comparison I have

granted I also really like S2 despite all of the technical issues, I've put 200 hours into it already lel

I'm way more invested in the story than I ever got with Metro I won't lie, and I really liked them

S2 done on 4A Engine would be peak

granted I don't think it could pull off the full sized map with no loading zones, but maybe splitting into 3rds would work

[split crown]

Yeah I have like 172 hours in STALKER 2 now, but I still have many criticisms and questions about it.

But that's all because I only want it to improve, not get worse or stay in its current state

[outer depot]

I mean it can basically only get better from here, even if GSC evaporated right this instant

people putting a lot of legwork in for mods and shit even without the SDK

frankly the ace in the hole for Stalker has always been that there's a dedicated community of people who have already spent nearly twenty years trying to fix Stalker

UE5 issues aside I've greatly enjoyed S2 and look forward to continuing to enjoy it as either GSC or modders make it better

[sinful escarp]

The thing is some people can't enjoy S2 because of the limitations self-imposed by the developers :(

[plush torrent]

They should’ve just kept loading zones

A-life was only sustainable because all that shit could be done in instances, going full open world to appeal to the goobers who couldn’t handle a 5 second wait every 2km killed the most important feature of the game

[finite needle]

Calling a-life the most important feature of Stalkan games might be a hyperoble tbh

Or am I going insane? I though the whole point was trekking in the wasteland and getting increasingly more geared to finally face out your true enemy: aroun 10000 Monoliths solo.

[wanton arch]

the whole point was being in a world that operated independently of you

half the atmosphere came from the scale that was feeling like just another stalker

[outer depot]

A-Life is important but honestly I think it rose to being the focus because most open world mods people are used to from the past like 8 years have essentially just completely ignored the plot in favor of you zone wandering forever doing menial tasks, and the only actual excitement/interest you get is from NPC battles.

[sinful escarp]

I'll be real that's how stalker 2 felt to me for the 6 hours I played

[outer depot]

the basic spawn system is bad

and I think the NPC's lack a lot of the little tiny autistic action touches that were in the older games

but the degree to which A-Life has been mythologized is kind of a meme at this point lel

[split crown]

100% real & true.

[split crown]

Agreed on this too

[outer depot]

actually in hindsight I think I've seen them do most of the shit they do normally in the old games but some of the executions of those actions are worse or basically never trigger

like body looting or artifact hunting; I didn't see an NPC do either for a solid like 80 hours

coup de grace is still a thing but it's just them shooting as if in normal combat vs walking up and capping them after a fight

etc

I think in addition to larger spawn/render radius a lot of the feel can be improved by just increasing the commonality of NPCs doing their little minor/idle actions

combat is another matter since everyone is essentially hitscan and there's no way to make battles in a wide open field feel "good" but some mods have already sped up NPC reactions/removed their perfect accuracy/changed how spotting works with foliage/etc so I think it'll get more refined over time

better progressive NPC loadouts mod is a must though unless you like fighting all exoskeletons all the time by the time you get to Orbita

[split crown]

electric anomalies irl be like: https://fixupx.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1886054955758256315

[split crown]

dude, I literally watch other NPCs just blindly walk into anomalies and die

I figured their coding wasn't capable of artifact hunting

I've also never physically seen any NPCs loot anything.

[split crown]

can that loadouts mod be installed mid-game, or does it require a new playthrough?

[outer depot]

ueually I just see NPCs walk through fields unharmed unless its electros or flames which also nuke them in the old game

[outer depot]

dropped in fine for me, you just need to enter a new zone as the ones around you/at places where they're persistent will stay with what they've got at that moment

[split crown]

Gotcha

[outer depot]

it doesn't change scripted spawn loadouts either afaik

so if a dude is meant to be in an exo, he'll be in an exo

[split crown]

I also use Better Ballistics and Unique Weapon Attachments, so I'll have to see if it conflicts at all

[outer depot]

I don't believe it conflicts with weapon config but the NPC attachment mods all have some degree of issue from what Ive seen

but unique weapon doesn't change that iirc

[split crown]

Awesome!

[outer depot]

also I'd recommend Oxides mod over unique weapon attachment since it does the same thing but better

[split crown]

I briefly looked at that one, but ill give it another look

[outer depot]

dude pushes a new update like every few days, he's got an active channel here for any questions

very highly recommended for dumb shit like

[warped monolith]

true, people romanticize the extremely detailed versions of A-Life seen in the more popular mods
yet in the OG games...

[split crown]

do you use the localization files provided in his main file?

I'm still using the Real Weapon Names localization files

[outer depot]

yeah I do they seem to work fine

[outer depot]

not only that but most mods also tweak the fuck out of the AI response times and accuracy as well

and also make them fucking act like schizo tarkov players

[split crown]

Gotcha, thanks

I also use Mutant Loot, Project Itemization, and Pillhead; so I'll see if any of those break or not lol

[round bronze]

Serious question, are people dumb?

[warped monolith]

serious answer: yes

[eternal oyster]

@round bronze people at yaniv, or beard at the skadovsk/sultansk if I'm in the south

I like beard more than sid.

[round bronze]

Thank you

I am using fast travel mod This one

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/587

[eternal oyster]

I just. use the guides. they're decently balanced in S2 and money isn't hard to come by

[split crown]

@outer depot everything seems to be working so far. Thanks for the recommendations dude 👌

[outer depot]

👍

[split crown]

btw, does Oxide's mod allow usage of iron sights with rifles that have scopes?

like being able to swap to irons for closer targets

[outer depot]

if you got issues just ask Ox in his mod thread down in mod-posting. Also nah I think irons and scopes are exclusive of one another atm

probably going to stay that way until SDK allows model imports

[split crown]

alrighty. One issue I did notice was if I shove the PSO 8x scope onto my VSS, the default PSO 4x that's on it just disappears into the nether lmao; can't manually take the 4x scope off of it beforehand either.

[split crown]

yea probably

[outer depot]

probably a gun you had prior to using the new mod, you'll likely need to spawn a replacement

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1322530320494628945

hit him up though dude is way more knowledgeable about it than I am lel

[split crown]

yeaaah

no worries, and thanks again

[outer depot]

generally so long as everything else seems to be working, the answer to a gun being weird is that it just needs a replacement spawned because it was generated prior to you using the mod

[split crown]

yup yup

[late plover]

there was a thread on s2 steam forum about how good gamma is and how s2 sucks balls. it was closed by mods without anything special in it. ppl were just talking about it

[late kernel]

I mean, they were more intelligent and more lively even in the OG games compared to stalker 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjMCZvxcoiw&t=3s

[warped monolith]

lively sure, but intelligent? they constantly walked into anomalies and died

[outer depot]

basic A-Life NPCs in Stalker trilogy were borderline braindead and broke all of the time

they just had more flavor stuff they could do

[late kernel]

Im talking about general behaviour in combat and all

[undone summit]

to be fair, i'd compare the combat AI in stalker much like F.E.A.R.
simple commands that gave the illusion of intelligence by occasionally surprising you
though, Stalker 2 doesn't quite get that feeling cuz most of the combats i had are headtapping random patrols that spot me

[warped monolith]

I've seen Stalker 2 AI use cover and chuck grenades at me but sometimes they... 'miss' the grenade and it lands far away or doesn't go over my own cover

I don't remember OG Stalker AI do any of that. They move around while shooting but taking cover is an alien concept

all I remember both AIs is the fact that they can see the player through foliage and it's infuriating

[undone summit]

they do, though only by technicality. i think they only rush to cover when they're reloading

[warped monolith]

oh and their guns are sometimes laser accurate but when they die and I grab them, they're below 30% condition and barely work. Zone magic.

only real big flaw of these games is how the AI doesn't have to play by the same rules you do

[late kernel]

slavic programming

[outer depot]

yeah AI spotting/engagement for foliage was one of the first mods I found

[lavish brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131008152905719808/1335748088190730251/stalker.mov?ex=67a14bd9&is=679ffa59&hm=851dc0b79a3a8510250178abb12a60ff7c67c21ccfc421824a03a6b26cd11cc1&

[lime sail]

how do i find out how to use magazines. i forget the bot command

#mags\

[neat quail]

i guess im dumb cuz what tf is a habar

[midnight flicker]

why isnt oxa in the base game

[true yew]

GAMMA:

[wintry mountain]

Well in S2 case there’s an issue with physical materials translucency it appears.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1001

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-uncanny-gif-26726028

[round bronze]

Wrong chat

Well, please help me
I need a god mod
On Zoo Pripyat
Where can I find such good stuff

[cedar plank]

does anyone else experience bright nights? I use the weather mod. But even after removing it there is no difference.

[jovial berry]

Did you download the latest version (released yesterday)

[cedar plank]

yup

[jovial berry]

Do you use HDR? Nights are still somewhat bright, but should still be noticeably darker. I didnt want to lower it too much since i know other people have much darker settings

I suggest you take a look at reducing the Gamma setting, or increasing Contrast. in case of HDR, you might need to decrease HDR brightness.

[cedar plank]

the thing is that I have HDR enabled in my monitor but not in the game and from the beginning I have been playing with HDR enabled in my monitor and the nights were dark even with the gamma in the game set to 60. Only recently have I noticed that it is terribly bright and I have tried many solutions already. I mainly noticed it after the last patch

[jovial berry]

Did you update Windows recently?

https://windowsforum.com/threads/windows-11s-kb5050094-update-fixing-the-auto-hdr-bug-for-gamers.351095/

AutoHDR was broken and there is a patch for it now

[cedar plank]

yeh but ok i try

[jovial berry]

Good luck, just let me know. id like to help

[warped monolith]

for all of GAMMA's issues, this is one thing we can't blame it for. The original games were like this too.

[true yew]

Lmao, the "master" difficulty being the "easiest" difficulty. Was never sure if it was a joke or legit

[warped monolith]

same. Funny enough I never played the games in any other difficulty.

[tacit glacier]

wtf already?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1211?tab=description

[proud ruin]

[undone summit]

You know what
Good.
This is a good sign.

[proud ruin]

[warped monolith]

the masses crave the sandbox

[ripe hollow]

No, i am at (almost, we don't count rostok) stable 60 on my 3060 and most things on medium + quality dlss

[ripe hollow]

Well, the unreal engine is terribly optimized itself

[ripe hollow]

It's a myth or/and psyop

[true yew]

It's a filter then. Either a strong or smart stalker is produced either way

[wary rune]

Same. The only time I see a group of stalkers is when they are travelling somewhere. Then they either just keep going in circles or meet monolith and get stomped. No one seems to be searching for artifacts, chatting (except set locations like bases), actually exploring. They just walk. Peak AI.

[proud ruin]

Farcry Ukraine

[warped monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-boy-here-we-go-jim-carrey-gif-11986509

[outer depot]

Thing is they do have a lot of those actions, I ran into a group of Degtyarev corps dudes in Malachite and after killing a few bandits they pulled security for one dude with a detector as he stood near some electros artifact hunting. Was like “Oh shit they do have those actions.”

The problem is that they rarely get a chance to

Spawn radius is so small that you’ll basically only ever encounter groups in passing as they walk

And it legit took me 80 hours to see an NPC loot another dead NPC

[wary rune]

Actually they do but I've never seen an animation. When NPC loots someone they can (or could) pick up the armor which yielded me a lot of free money early

[outer depot]

Yeah I’ve seen that before I saw the animation

But there is an actual animation for looting. Sometimes in combat they’ll just Hoover up gear though

[ripe hollow]

Well, at least they left underdeveloped mostly the things that can't be patched post release or fixed with mods. Considering everything that was surrounding development - getting this GLORIOUS locations and map in general plus decent questline is way more than I've expected

[outer depot]

The biggest thing imo is going to be boosting the fuck out of the active AI radius so that they have a chance to do something other than just walk

Even if render is only extended to like 200 meters

[ripe hollow]

I grieve the lack of fractions relationships and meaningful side-quests though

[outer depot]

(It’s like 125 now iirc)

[wary rune]

Yeah, I thought the game would flop hard. Instead it's pretty nice but still leaves a lot to be desired

[outer depot]

Yeah I mean Freedom/Duty questlines clearly got cut late because there’s so much shit to support their existence still ingame.

[wary rune]

Dooty/Freedom reduced to simple traders

[outer depot]

Hopefully we get content restoration (I wanna go into Lab X-12)

But yeah lots to be desired but imo the bones here are better in every respect other than A-Life atm

[ripe hollow]

I legit haven't even visited the dooty base in my first playtrough

[wary rune]

Dang, just give me a Limansk DLC with three labs and a new mutant
Not a deer though. These are just annoying

[outer depot]

It’s a nice base at Cement Factory

Cooling Towers is sort of a wasteland though

Really needs that X-12 lab restored

[wary rune]

Cooling Towers was fun because of the funny anomaly and the view

[ripe hollow]

Also, every interaction i had with them is very dooty-characterizing in a way

Either it's a drunk idiot, being friends with a bandit, dying from a single flesh after he pleasured himself for an hour, telling how good of a hunter he is

Or a cool military boys, that can't handle a couple of gopniks in tracksuits

[wary rune]

Can't wait for a gunslinger for S2 though. Base weapons got me bored even before I finished the first playthrough because of the stupid tier system. I haven't used GP37 at all because there are straight up better options even though it's an assault rifle

[outer depot]

They did a lot of work setting up the Voronin-Zulu split via little encounters but I think the rest got cut

[wary rune]

You're talking about that Cordon quest? It was really refreshing

[outer depot]

Oh there’s more than that

[wary rune]

[outer depot]

Three off the top of my head, at least two include a lot of voiced lines from duty NPCs and a mini quest to go with them

You encounter them in the wild. One near Wild Island and one in the town south of Cement Factory and I can’t remember if the old Jupiter underground entrance zone near waste processing was a part of the second one or just a stash with some PDA info you can find

[wary rune]

Hm, so there's more exploring to do

[outer depot]

Yeah there’s a decent amount of stuff you can just stumble on

But it takes a lot of stumbling at various points in the story progression

I think a lot of the complaints about lack of side content were from people just bulldozing the main story and going from major mission to major mission without actually wandering the Zone

[wary rune]

I see your point but I feel like there is a lot less side content after SIRCAA which is kinda sad. Especially that Freedom-Duty war is back but player wouldn't even notice if it weren't for some idle dialogue with traders

[ripe hollow]

The encounters are working funny. There's definitely different scenarios without clear triggers. In my first playtrough i remember saving a stalker from bandits in the cowsheds, in my second he was already dead when i come there, but he had a pda, telling his story. I also find encounters in places that were empty in my first playtrough.

[outer depot]

Yeah no question there. Very clear there’s meant to be more going on but it just got crunched.

[outer depot]

I don’t think it’s necessarily random but more dependent on when you find it

[ripe hollow]

Also, is poltergeist behavior is broken or they changed it the last moment? The loading screen hint, the nerd during encounter and a random replica on "what's happening in the zone" - all say that you shouldn't move when poltergeist is nearby, like in og games. But in reality they don't care, they throw shit at you, regardless if you run or stay still.

[outer depot]

It’s clear post-SIRCAA was meant to be the “active” phase with Duty fighting Freedom to the backdrop of Mono resurgence but because of the cut stuff it just turns into Monolith everywhere

[wary rune]

Yeah, just run and spray. If you can't hide behind an object, then shoot whatever he picked up

[outer depot]

Seems random tbh, sometimes they’ll spot you from a ways off and not drop aggro, other times I’ve literally walked into them

[wary rune]

Also poltergeists completely ignore armor which is silly. A cup can do more damage than a sniper rifle

[outer depot]

Me getting killed by a stick at Crystal SCS five times before I threw all twenty of my grenades onto the roof

And my reward was a PDA entry from scientist complaining about bees taking his candy

[ripe hollow]

Still better than THREE FUCKING DEERS

[ripe hollow]

I despise deers as a concept. Why on earth do they spawn real animals out of thin air? It's just stupid and immersion-breaking, and this stupidity isn't even necessary, because you could make these spawned beasts projections, like those that evil psycho-lamps make.

[wary rune]

I feel like they are supposed to call other animals for aid instead of spawning them, but implementing a spawn more than 50 meters from player is beyond dev's abilities.

That or they wanted deer to be literally a cock-and-ball torture

[uneven flame]

anyone here an admin in the official stalker discord?

[wary rune]

Gotta love the absurdity of a monolith dude with exoskeleton using Buket or Viper

Also:

[proud ruin]

[ripe hollow]

I really hope someone releases a weather mod. It rains literally every day, sometime two times a day even

[lavish hornet]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/164?tab=files

[warped monolith]

I just want something to adjust the timescale without breaking quest scripts and so on

[ripe hollow]

I've seen it before and it doesn't look lite it changes amount of rains

[ripe hollow]

I use one and didn't encounter any additional problems it seems

[lavish hornet]

No its better, it overhauls the entire weather system and allows for you to see more weather types, as well as new weathers that GSC did not finish.

[warped monolith]

nice. send me the link please?

[ripe hollow]

Well, by description it seems to give me more variations of shitty weather, instead of more sun like i wish to

[lavish hornet]

I see what your target is, yeah this enhances immersion as the zone is not all sunshine and rainbows.

[ripe hollow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/965

I use 33% boost and 4x cycle

[warped monolith]

hmm. wonder if I can edit in my own values without breaking shit

[split crown]

So I've come to find out

[ripe hollow]

The code seems to be pretty straightforward

[warped monolith]

You underestimate my inability

[finite needle]

I'll be honest, all I want is either restore Freedom to their eco-terrorist ways OR delete them as Duty. I wonder if that can actually be modded or is in the cards for GSC, because they've literally done fuck all with Duty and Freedom, and I find that more concerning than AI routines.

But maybe I just don't know what Stalker is (apparently just watching AI play the game while you do fetch quests)

[warped monolith]

according to everyone complaining here, that's basically what it should be.

[subtle isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230562061998620698/1268895727254503516/received_999630927748320.mp4?ex=67a1fc3c&is=67a0aabc&hm=a9cf4da933876845e22be2dd697ace937e2298a0c6dddf78cbfb908b15d3bde0&

[warped monolith]

[jovial berry]

Define shitty weather

Also there is a bug in the late game where there is endless rain, doesn't seem like you're there yet but just a heads up. With DWO you will definitely see longer periods of sunny and "stable" weather's (light rainy, cloudy and foggy). Rain has been improved a lot and it's not as ugly and blue

[jovial berry]

I'd be careful with these outdated mods. There's been changes to the files they modify from game patches

[past glacier]

I come with another question!

Do you also have the problem of FPS dropping to 2-5 in settlements?
It's something that really bothers me, it's about to make me quit the game, because honestly not even restarting the game fixes it.
Do you know any solution that at least mitigates a little bit the drop of frames in those places?

I have a translator because I'm terrible at speaking English.

[jovial berry]

3 fps yikes

are you running any AI/alife mods

[past glacier]

nop

[jovial berry]

Any other mods?

[past glacier]

yes, I was curious to try this one, but I doubt it's the mod, since this problem has always happened to me.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484

[jovial berry]

you could try

u+ is nice, but seems like your problem goes beyond graphics. Could be the dreaded Rostok/Settlement memory leak

[past glacier]

I have tried to find a solution, supposedly the previous update fixed that but it keeps happening to me, it's frustrating

[fiery phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6T5Cx4jCxE

[pallid mirage]

Is anybody else freezing when trying to travel with a guide? It could be a glitch from story progress, I just started gathering collars for a later mission. But I also updated Ultra+, Stop NPCs XRay, and OXA, but reverting didn't seem to fix

[stuck zenith]

How much space does Stalker 2 take now?

[stuck zenith]

yeah required but on disk

how much

there's been like three different large patches after release

or is it still truly 150

[rich mirage]

precisely 152

so it hasn't changed? ig

[stuck zenith]

hm..

ah yeah it's 152
thanks :)

[split crown]

I'd say it's memory leaks since that's what I'm getting from my personal experiences; and if that's the case, the issue lies in GSC's hands to eventually fix in due time.

As sad as that may be, it is what it is. Whenever my frames start dying down to 2-10 or so, I try returning to the main menu and reloading my save file. If that doesn't work, I'll exit the game entirely and re-launch. If that doesn't even work, maybe try restarting your pc.

[past glacier]

wow, how sad, I guess it's better to wait, it's a game I want to enjoy without getting angry.

[split crown]

100% understandable.

[split crown]

Also, I'm unsure of how much they actually work or not, but these are the settings I use in my game.

[fathom zephyr]

does the game still run like shit?

[warped monolith]

depending on your PC, yeah

[split crown]

with frame gen on + DLSS on Quality + the settings in the pic I linked up above, I get between 80-130 fps until memory leaks occur lol

[proud ruin]

[proud ruin]

Duty in absolute shambles rn

[high spindle]

it's so fucking peak guys

[round bronze]

I duty- John Duty

[round bronze]

Bro I have a better one

[proud ruin]

My favourite part is when Skif said strelok truly you truly are the heart of Chernobyl then stalked all over the place

[cedar ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/water-writing-water-writing-gif-fire-writing-bro-is-onto-nothing-this-writing-sucks-gif-16029301679387297696

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[west moth]

[ripe hollow]

Why we can't shoot Scar the same second we find out that he is responsible for big brain wash

[wicked adder]

Because at that point Skiff is all in

If you chose a faction then skiff just becomes fanatically loyal to it

[ripe hollow]

You can 180 to become a good warden boi later though?

[heavy hedge]

uh wow typo in your own videogame uh embarrassing much LMAO!

maybe try spellcheck! oops!

[warped monolith]

[flat olive]

So I now have a loner stalking me across the entire lesser zone, omnipresent in all of my saves. He only appears after I sleep, shows up at the foot of my bed, then runs outside with me to convince everyone in town to beat my ass despite being neutral

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/bayle-elden-ring-curse-you-curse-you-bayle-igon-gif-8102587839544573256

[wicked adder]

Only in one fixed event

In the spark ending Skiff is more fanatic about it than scar

[finite needle]

Yo you mean Skif is loyal to the gang you decide he's gonna be loyal to?

[warped monolith]

oh no, I selected a faction and now I have to act like I'm a part of it

[wicked adder]

There’s a difference between ‘loyal to x group that you wanted to join’ and literally telling scar he no longer has any choice, and that he WILL carry out the plan even though he doesn’t think it’s a good idea anymore

You basically end up in charge of spark at the end, because Scar is having a breakdown and doesn’t wanna keep going

[finite needle]

Man that's crazy, if only the game gave you a choice to back off Spark once you found out they really are like that

[warped monolith]

you used 'literally' incorrectly, opinion discarded

[wicked adder]

Man that’s crazy it’s almost like you missed the point

[finite needle]

You are right, I don't get it. What's your point?

I'm also mostly just taking the piss, but if you want to complain about bad writing in Stalker 2 I ain't the one going to stop you, I pick factions based on colors

[west moth]

[outer depot]

It’s less forcing Scar and more just reassuring him

And yeah I mean by that point in the story if you’ve played Skif as having seen and believed all of the shit from the Representative and Faust and whatever else

Yeah he’d probably be pretty invested

Lest we forget that immediately before that you walk through a valley full of ghosts being shown the way by ghost-richter who proceeds to allow you to literally walk over water and survive emissions in the open

You- through Skif, have chosen to accept that at face value

[proud ruin]

Skeefa we must strip rostok of all its copper wire

[warped monolith]

SFEEKA

[outer depot]

SKEEFA YOU SAW THOSE GHOSTS RIGHT, PRETTY FUCKING WHACK HUH?

[proud ruin]

SKEEFA I SAW A GHOST!

[outer depot]

If Scars end goal didn’t involve frying everyone’s brains then he’d be a default pick lmao

[proud ruin]

[mellow galleon]

I have a feeling 2 won't be worth playing until we get an Anomaly/GAMMA equivalent for it

[proud ruin]

Coming 2050

[west moth]

[proud ruin]

[proud ruin]

Stalker 2 is unplayable until hip is added

[warm yoke]

So Xbox PC app just rolled back my saves to point before Pripyat... Does anyone have save file before / after point of no return sided with Strelok?

[proud ruin]

Going to rookie village and not seeing this was disappointing https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/hip-kardashian

[wary rune]

You can also set "GAMMA"

[golden hazel]

Stop coveting the Hip, brother, we must get ready to raid the nonexistent retconned barrier, Lukash the Infidel must be stopped

[warped monolith]

[proud ruin]

[ashen rampart]

If they just optimized it man

holy fuck the first settlement kills my frames like NOTHING else

[proud ruin]

[ashen rampart]

MY FUCKING FRAMESSSSS

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[ashen rampart]

Real bro

[proud ruin]

Have the recent updates actually made the game better

I haven’t played it since like a week after it came out

[golden hazel]

Yesn't

[proud ruin]

[west moth]

[hushed garden]

Games on steroids now trust me, I'm a random on discord

[proud ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/that-sounds-good-beavis-beavis-and-butt-head-bbhonpplus-bbh-gif-16241127379552108210

[limpid nest]

is there a quest associated with this room? I tried the plates on the floor for the code but no luck

[peak eagle]

5578

[limpid nest]

okay but how did you know that

[peak eagle]

It makes it rather difficult, but the eye symbol on the keypad can be found on trucks in the nearby vehicle graveyard

[limpid nest]

oh

[peak eagle]

Don't worry, I got stuck on that too

[wheat solar]

I think the sign there on the left is supposed to be a hint as to where you're supposed to go for the code

[outer depot]

The sign is telling you to go to the truck cemetery yes

[limpid nest]

well I can't read

[winged raptor]

does anyone know why i can't see my ammo count?

[warped monolith]

check UI/interface settings to see if you haven't turned it off

[winged raptor]

what would it be called?

[warped monolith]

ammo counter? weapon display? something along those lines?
If anything is set to "off", put it back to "on" and check until you find the correct one.
If everything's set to on, then maybe you're using a mod that hides it?

[undone summit]

If you think about it, in a meta sense, this couldn't be a better sequel to stalker shadow of Chernobyl.
Both were unstable and buggy on release
Both had heaps of cut content and ambitious features
Both games' development was rather difficult to say the least
Are both games' stories/lore/gunplay/atmosphere equal? Probably not but they're not too dissimilar

Am I stupid?

[warped monolith]

yes. Because this is a sequel to Call of Pripyat, not Shadow of Chernobyl.

[undone summit]

Fuk

Well, I thought I was onto something clever

[lime umbra]

Personally I think the story is alot better told in S2

[warped monolith]

I gotta uninstall some crap and give this a spin again

[lime umbra]

Gunplay isn't some eldritch bullshit too

[haughty sparrow]

Is S2 worth playing as is or should I wait some months for the appropriate patches and fixes to come out?

[split crown]

you can play it as is, but there are also a number of quality of life mods you can grab off the STALKER 2 nexus.

Like a nightvision goggles mod

[winged raptor]

ANYONE know why my guy wont reload and i have to hit y to change ammo to reload

[lime umbra]

shotgun ?

[proud ruin]

Is there a mod that makes the flashlight not seem like a phone light yet

[wintry mountain]

Because the light source has to be altered it's a bit complicated

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/221
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/304/
https://file-metadata.nexusmods.com/file/nexus-readmes/6944/221/Readme.txt

[strange heath]

I have a preset I use that is similar to og stalker, for flashlight customizer
its kinda narrow and not that bright

[wintry mountain]

I put out a mod that repositions it to our head level that helps a bit.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/1191

[proud ruin]

[warped monolith]

I'll have you know my phone light is brighter

[winged raptor]

does anyone know if they will ever add pvp to gamma?

[warped monolith]

[winged raptor]

or any games similar to stalker but pvp not stalcraft either

[proud ruin]

no

Tarkov would be the only thing sorta

[warped monolith]

or Survarium but that one's long gone.

[outer depot]

I fucked with Suviarium back in the day

for way too long

[outer depot]

god the Ward version of the Orbita chat with Strider is so much more depressing

[cedar plank]

I have a problem with bright nights. I noticed that after the last patch the nights are bright, it's e.g. 23:00 or 1:00 at night and it's too bright as night. And it's not the fault of mods or settings. Someone has it too?

[ripe hollow]

Well, you select a faction BEFORE you find out its leader is a farcry villain that turns zone into battle royale again.

[ripe hollow]

What?
When does that even happens?

[ripe hollow]

It mostly works now

[proud ruin]

[drowsy umbra]

me searching for a proper artifact

[peak eagle]

Get a compass on your first anomaly

[drowsy umbra]

me at Zalyssia

[ripe hollow]

Is exo+5 compasses is better than exo+4 compasses or armor cap is somewhere much lower?

[eager solstice]

@unborn plume (goldcoastmusic.) has been banned for reason: Spambot

goldcoastmusic. (goldcoastmusic.) has been banned for reason: Spreading piracy lmao

[icy basin]

Oop

[drowsy umbra]

[outer depot]

Spark run lel

That’s how you get to generators in the Spark path

[acoustic wedge]

Stalker 2 piracy is valid ngl

[drowsy umbra]

as an video game company employee I have to voice my disagreement

[warped monolith]

[warped monolith]

just like real life, people want you to work for them before you realize they're awful human beings

[drowsy umbra]

all factions are evil

just choose the one with most style

which obviously has to be Monolith

[warped monolith]

basic

[peak eagle]

make another legend of the zone, yourself

[stuck condor]

Get out 💀

If you can afford 3070 or higher to normally play the game you can afford the game

[finite needle]

I wish I could pirate iracing tbh

[grave oar]

I wish I could choose the faction not many people talk about in stalker 2

[wooden glade]

nitpick but, you actually don't need a 3070 to play this game lol.

something like a 2060 is already enough for medium settings. hell, I'd say that even a 1650 could play Stalker 2 at 1080p low if not for the VRAM limitation...

I do get the point though so all good

[finite needle]

I've joined spark unironically because I'm just that big of ward hater, like imagine joining the cops because they will buy you back the house they indirectly destroyed if you do slave work for them

[lime umbra]

It's a funny roulette of blame throwing on who blew up skiffs house

[finite needle]

"yah dude we will definitely buy you back your krushovka apartment now to brutalize monolith survivors"

[lime umbra]

Ultimately it's both sparks and sircas fault

[finite needle]

Oh it's everyone's fault, and Spark is just insane, but I'd rather join them rather than do all the mental gymnastic people use to justify joining Ward

[lime umbra]

Justifying ward is easy

[finite needle]

They do be presented as bullies and invaders the very first second you get there, and do nothing to beat the allegations At least Spark being complete nutjobs isn't immediately clear, it becomes apparent that they're insane when you see their leader drawing a heart with the blood of his enemies

[lime umbra]

Marshall scar is lunney

That's it

[finite needle]

Good enough for me

[lime umbra]

Rule of thumb in life
You don't clump up with the lunneys

[finite needle]

Have you seen the place? Noontide is literally the more well adjusted group and I wish I could join them

[lime umbra]

And Col. Is a better character regardless

[warped monolith]

"do nothing to beat the allegations" chad behavior

give zero fucks on what people say or think about you

[lime umbra]

Gets to boss both duty and freedom

[finite needle]

Well I don't want to be a bully, I just want my stoner friends back, now they just sell shit

[lime umbra]

Duty and freedoms entire beef comes up as petty bullshit now that ward showed up
Smacked both
And told them to work together

Get along shirt moment

[finite needle]

mfw Duty goes all fucking jihad on their asses the INSTANT Ward is in trouble

[lime umbra]

No that's just Zulu being zulu

He being promoted to replace petrenko has some consequence

Amazing he survived CoP tbh

[finite needle]

Zulu was the only one I was 100% was gonna die somehow

didn't he just flip the bird to the military the instant he got to Pripyat with you? Like go fuck yourselves imma go shoot shit

granted, last time I've played CoP was in like 2012 but I definitely remember him being an actual psychopath

[lime umbra]

Meanwhile Voromin became more of pencil pusher

While Zulu leads the force into action

[stuck condor]

40 stable FPS on any settings - good
Less even on minimal - bad

[lime umbra]

Meanwhile fredom with yet again a new leader we know fuck all about

[finite needle]

wish Freedom got someone to do the same or at least a splinter faction more interested in doing terrorism

[stuck condor]

I have 20 unstable on minimal on 3060

[lime umbra]

The leadership turnover rate in freedom is alot worse than the bandits

[finite needle]

Kinda strange, granted I have a 4060 on my laptop which apparently is so much better than a 3060, but I never had that bad performance, more like 60 stable with some stutter here and there oh high. But I'm also running it on 1080p so maybe yall are just 4k gamers and can't let go the fact that you sometimes need to run lower resolutions? idk.

[stuck condor]

CPU matters

[lime umbra]

I finished the game on a 3060 on stable 50 ish fps

[finite needle]

Yeah maybe that is a factor, but still it's a laptop

[stuck condor]

Tbh, no doubt that Stalker will run well even on 1060 but great CPU

GPU was never an issue

[wooden glade]

hot damn, that has to be an edge case. from the benchmarks I've seen a 3060 should be plenty for 1080p high settings

[stuck condor]

That's the thing. FPS doesn't change regardless of settings

Well, except the ultra, then it drops

low-high - 20
ultra - 2...

If it was stable - ok, I finished dying light in 15 fps back in the day

But ehh, it's a rollercoaster

[finite needle]

Are you running nvidia app or some other stuff like that? There was a dude a month or so ago who lamented horrible input lag, only to find out it was because of nvidia overlay

[stuck condor]

Always disabled, I even reinstalled

No difference to me. I guess I'll wait for the patch that will finally boost the performance

No matter how long it takes

[finite needle]

then idk, maybe your cpu is really dying of death, or you just got some weird combo that exists only to screw your config in particular.

[stuck condor]

idk, I can run UE5

[finite needle]

S K E E F A

[stuck condor]

Game development...

[warped monolith]

[mighty ice]

can someonetell me if the fps drops are somewhat fixed now?

[stuck condor]

Want to know for much this water costs to run FPS wise?
3 frames

[indigo hemlock]

does anyone know of a mod that increases npc render distance on newer versions

[finite needle]

If you ever find out don't forget to tell GSC as well, I'm sure they'd love to find out how to do it too

[indigo hemlock]

lmao

dont even put scopes on guns anymore no point when all ai exists within 100m

[clear patio]

Hello my stalkers. whats the current status of the game performance wise for yall? if you have "actually" old and weak hardware then I can't say I'd take your repot seriously.

I will also accept in lieu of you saying how your game runs, a funni insult. all insults should ping me directly. So I may laugh at them.

[warped monolith]

[wintry mountain]

1.1.4 runs the same or worse in most cases that I've come across.

[west moth]

[split crown]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[west moth]

[wooden glade]

not good nor terrible.

I'm the only moron here who's using a $600 Ampere Quadro GPU that performs like a 3050 though, so not the best example anyways

who says you have to be an old GPU to be slow for gaming?

[split crown]

SKEEEEEEEEEEEFA

[mossy grail]

the eye is still fucked up because i forgot

and noone fixed

[golden hazel]

Cause dead game

[mossy grail]

time to kill off the channel

[cerulean root]

The great SKEEFA has blessed us

[golden hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pistolet-gif-6660566012326895836

[cerulean root]

https://tenor.com/view/pistolet-gif-6660566012326895836

[split crown]

makes it even better tbh

[mossy grail]

someone replace the rat from the metro last light circush show model with a small scar model

[low cave]

how the fuck do i fix my character running at a speed of light? is there any command to like turn it down?

i had a glitch where my character would have been stuck in a walking mode all the time and i finally fixed it but now im a fucking olimpic champion all of the sudden so please help me

[young fern]

guys how does those works? If i wear it or if i craft artifact with it

[true yew]

Wrong channel, my guy

[finite needle]

We can't, accept this gift from the mighty Monolith brother

[low cave]

I will thank you brother

[undone vessel]

https://youtu.be/vVC9PmD3PmA?si=rCCKvkP7JMp2eGnj

[warped monolith]

what "impossible" did they pull off

[west moth]

A-life

[warped monolith]

release a badly unfinished, poorly unoptimized game for 70USD and get millions of players truly sounds like an impossible undertaking
Then you look at every other AAA slop released in the past 5 years

[warped monolith]

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[proud ruin]

15 years for new game
it’s UE5 slop

[warped monolith]

impossible: achieved

[proud ruin]

Unreal engine and its consequence have been a disaster

[grave oar]

i aint watchin that ad riddled garbage

[warped monolith]

why'd the rookie nobody block me

[proud ruin]

[warped monolith]

I just wanted to react an to his message

[finite needle]

I actually want to play stalker 2 but then again I know I will get bored once I go past sircaa again

[warped monolith]

I'm wrapping up one of my previous games so I can uninstall it, then I'll give Stalker 2 another spin

[finite needle]

Project Warlock 2 might have given me the motivation to get back into Stalker 2 tbh

[warped monolith]

huh. why? Relatively unrelated games...

also wait a minute, is PW2 out already? EDIT: Oh it's in early access since 2022.

[finite needle]

Not completely

[peak eagle]

least ad-riddled video

[warped monolith]

I sure hope Project Warlock 2 doesn't bug out on me like the first game did I got softlocked out of the ending because the cutscene didn't play after killing the final boss.

[finite needle]

Well, it's in early access so it might, but it do be feeling more boomer shooter generic than the first.

[warped monolith]

welp. wishlisted and will wait for full release... whenever that might be

[finite needle]

Hopefully it will fare better than Phantom Fury

[warped monolith]

I still don't know what the fuss is about Phantom Fury but that's on me for not following it

I just saw John Blade in the trailer and went

[finite needle]

Yeah, same

most of my hype did come from playing Ion Fury and loving it

[warped monolith]

also apparently Tempest Rising is in the same universe as Bombshell/Ion Maiden/Phantom Fury

[finite needle]

btw never tell the average Stalker fan that the og trilogy is closer in spirit to those game than it is to a proper milsim

it's a secret

[warped monolith]

oh don't worry, we've seen plenty of tourists whining that Stalker 2 is "nothing like Gamma" when it released

[finite needle]

Virgin "The HK416 shoud outperform the G36, this gun tier makes no sense" vs the chad "yeah we made the FN2000 the best gun because it looks cool"

[outer depot]

There are dudes out here still not running adblockers

[warped monolith]

[west moth]

[stoic pier]

Dead chat

[thorn plume]

Just like the game is

[warped monolith]

oh no, people finished a single-player game and moved on

[west moth]

You mean dead, as in having not a life?

[west moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972937085277323295.webp?size=128

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/wind-in-hair-troll-train-gif-14906913887754546537

[arctic marsh]

holy fuck are those yellow things all ads

also this 9800x3d and 7900xtx combo literally makes stalker 2 its bitch

this computers blown me the fuck away

[proud ruin]

720p 30fps

[warped monolith]

[arctic marsh]

luls

[outer depot]

beefy

my RX6800 and 7800x3d is doing "okay"

[peak garnet]

Where in this discord do I find graphic help/setting adjustments? Ive a decent computer but smoke looks like black blocks.. Psy Storms look like squares moving through my screen.

[jovial berry]

do you have any mods or engine edits (ini)?

[peak garnet]

I don't think so, I haven't adjusted anything in the mod pack from when I installed Gamma.

Fires and anomalies have floating black squares everywhere.

[warped monolith]

uh... if you're talking about gamma try #╓☢stalker-chat or #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[peak garnet]

first link No access.

But thank you.

[warped monolith]

probably got to get rid of the newcomer role

[fallen iron]

_ _
@peak garnet, remove your Newcomer role to:

• gain access to the restricted part of the server;
• ask for help/support with custom modlists (enabled/disabled mods in MO2);
• download additional mods for GAMMA;
• talk in the #╓☢stalker-chat (you'll need to be Rookie in order to post in this channel first)

▶️ Go to #⏩start-confirm to remove the role, but ONLY after you have successfully installed AND launched at least once the mod pack.

[peak garnet]

Lmao, My Gamma mod launcher doesnt have any of those number of mods... im in the 300 range not 500. Am I missing somthing?

[arctic marsh]

yeah I am blown away

came from a 1080ti and 8700k I am getting like 300% more performance

[proud ruin]

Yes

There’s meant to be 518 mods

[peak garnet]

Thank you, though that raises the question. Is the error in my Mod pack then or the discord? cause ive got 380 in my mod organiser for GAMMA.

[fringe jewel]

what does this mean ?

[proud ruin]

Did you follow the install guide properly

[proud ruin]

It says “this game has no alife”

[fringe jewel]

[icy basin]

Radioactive Waste Disposal Point
Dried up

[grave frigate]

Hi, I'm looking for performance mod recommendations for Stalker2. I'm using Optimized Tweaks S.2 atm, but the game looks very grainy and is not very smooth

This is also my current mod list, if it helps at all or if a mod is causing the performance drops

Simple ModLoader and Console Enabler
Optimized Tweaks S.2 - Improved Performance Reduced Stutter Lower Latency Better Frametimes
Skip Intros
[Overhauls]
Maklane's Better Zone - Total Overhaul
Shay's - Living Zone (A-Life)
Dynamic Weather Overhaul
Lower Mutant Health
Mutant Loot
Axxii's Stealth Mod
Ledge Grabbing
Flashlight Customizer
Eggs Flashlight Customizer Preset
Factions Patch
Longer Sprinting - Increased Stamina - v1.1.4
Even Longer Days - 12 Hrs
Sell Damaged
Damage and Durability Re-Balance
[Weapons]
Unrestricted Equipment Upgrades
Reduced Repair Cost
Realistic Damage (Humans Only)
Real Weapon Names Global
Readable Ammo
More Side Weapons
Faster Reload ADS and Equip Speed
Customizable Unique Weapons - 1.1.4
Melee and Bash Range - 200
[UI]
Large Loot Inventory
Hide Low Radiation Effect
Painter of the Zone - Blood Marks
Painter of the Zone - Bloody Wounds
Cute Doggy Death Screen
Veles Retexture```

[jovial berry]

I think flashlight customizer is performance heavy

Also you might have very outdated mods. Check their pages and of they're are before the 1.1 game update I'd remove them or find newer alternatives

[grave frigate]

Are there any alternatives for increasing flashlight brightness? And would you possibly know the date range for the 1.1 update?

[jovial berry]

december 19th

[jovial berry]

currently, no. Flashlight Customizer uses UE4SS injection

[grave frigate]

Ah I’ll remove it then, thank you. Would you recommend removing mods from pre-1.1 that have features that weren’t changed by the update?

[jovial berry]

Yes, they could/will overwritte changes done from the game update

cant say exacly which ones, but id caution on the safe side

i also recommend this ini tweaks for performance:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/60

Or, you can also use
https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/484

Which, even though its heavier/demanding, it might solve some issues. But be sure to remove any ini mods

[grave frigate]

Should I use that instead of the optimizer I currently have?

[leaden hatch]

Hi guys, does any one knows the InputActionSID for the help that is displayed when holding R ? I would like to try to rebind another action to "Hold R". Binding something else to R (like one of the quickslot actions) doesn't remove this default binding.

[icy basin]

Funny enough, the lower one actually destroyed my performance, from 20s to 10s of FPS

[jovial berry]

It makes it so the game looks better at lower settings

Like high becomes epic, and so on . It also requires some setting up with the Launcher

[icy basin]

Basically
Not all that good for an RX 580 user

[round bronze]

Bro

8 years for a game (from oblivion planing)
Its Xray Engine slop with a lot of missing features
Profit

Maybe the true stalker was the mods we made along the way

[late kernel]

Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 runs and looks better without upscaling. Unlike this game.

And yet the mindlessly consuming Fancy Pants Rich McGees with their 4090s want to convince you it actually runs well.

[west moth]

[finite needle]

tbh GAMMA is literally slop Doesn't mean I don't like it, but calling Stalker 2 slop on the GAMMA discord is certainly a take

[warped monolith]

Wouldn't call it 'slop' but it certainly is a mess

[thorn plume]

Duh, Anomaly is a mess too

[warped monolith]

true... but Anomaly is Anomaly.
Gamma is Anomaly + 500 assorted mods of WILDLY varying quality

[thorn plume]

Community moment

[smoky lotus]

Anyone know a reason why they didnt use the xray engine in stalker 2

[thorn plume]

Iirc in 2012 s2 on xray engine was just cancelled

[warped monolith]

... because it's stupidly outdated?

[smoky lotus]

Not the og xray, i mean their own engine, like a xray 2.0 or something

[warped monolith]

developing your own engine costs way more money and time than just licensing someone else's

they likely had to cut corners considering everything that happened to them while making the game

[thorn plume]

Ah yes, we don't have money but we donated like 20 cars to our military.

With s2 brand on them.

[warped monolith]

I'm not gonna discuss the merits of their spending because I don't know how they managed or mismanaged the project, just saying the most common reasons behind not making your own engine

[finite needle]

You make it sound like they spent the time they could have used developing a new engine developing and producing those 20 cars.

How they spent the money (more ferraris for the boss) isn't really the reason imho

[thorn plume]

Grig do be greedy, though.

[finite needle]

Dude the company is like his name initials, I am very well aware of what kind of dude Grig is, just that is easier to just lear how to use a very well known engine rather than build a new one or, better yet, adapt what you have (look at Red Engine with CP2077)

[thorn plume]

The owner of gsc is also quite a catchy guy.

[warped monolith]

or Warhorse with KCD1 and 2, using CryEngine.

[thorn plume]

Metro's engine is basically a finished xray engine. And it's fine.

It's not ideal, but a lot of things in there are far better than in s2 with ue5.

[finite needle]

Nah they went for M A X I M U M graphical fidelity so they picked the brandest newest engine they could possibily work on before Microsoft came for Grig's car collection

[warped monolith]

dunno if that engine could handle open world + ALife
but UE5 clearly can't, so

[finite needle]

Would UE4 been able to? To be fair, the whole thing might be overambitious (whoa first time in history a eastern european game company has been overambitious ever)

[warped monolith]

Maybe UE4 could handle it? ARK is made in UE4.
... very poorly made in UE4, but I daresay its systems function better than Stalker 2's. lol

[finite needle]

Someone will figure it out, I'm sure. It might even be GSC.

[thorn plume]

Days gone was on UE4, also. And it's hella optimized.

[wintry mountain]

UE 5.1 is one of the worst versions. Just migrating from that would be enough to improve quite a bit.

[thorn plume]

I've seen that 5.3 is a good choice.

[finite needle]

Something tells me migrating a whole ass game to a more advanced engine is not as simple as it sounds like. Shit's kept together with duct tape as it is.

[thorn plume]

Obviously, yeah.

[finite needle]

Just imagine how fucked up the Zalissya quest would be in transition

I honestly can't wait and hope it happens just to see that.

[thorn plume]

I even hope that it gets a cyberpunk treatment, but it's ue....

[warped monolith]

[outer depot]

I do find it amusing that Stalker 2 basically opens the same way Roadside Picnic does

With a radio interview discussing the nature/threat of the zone with an eminent scientist

[brazen elk]

or cp77

[gritty glacier]

anyone can help me? 23 fps on a 2060 its a hell

[jovial berry]

Lower graphics and install some optimization tweaks

[gritty glacier]

i did

[jovial berry]

Don't run and FSR if you are. Unfortunately, the game is just very poorly optimized, specially at the beginning of the game. 2060 might be cutting it too close to unplayable GPU. What CPU do you have ?

[finite needle]

day 3 of launching Stalker 2 on my laptop (it's still compiling shaders)

[gritty glacier]

i5 10400f

[jovial berry]

Yeah brother, if you can't get it to run properly, I'd wait for the big patch next week

Hopefully we get some optimizations

Which optimization tweaks mod do you have?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/60 is the one Id recommend

[gritty glacier]

i have ultimate engine tweaks and the anonther i'll check

[jovial berry]

Ultra Plus is also a really good one, it improves performance on lower graphics but I cannot guarantee it

[gritty glacier]

Optimized Tweaks S.2

[jovial berry]

Go for it, Only use one at a time though

[arctic marsh]

man I am so impressed with what the modding community has done already

and this is all without the SDK tools once they drop this games gunna be insane

[west moth]

[late kernel]

Let's be real, their engine was NOT cutting it for STALKER 2

The only game I know that was developed on X-Ray 2 was Survarium, does anyone even remember that slop?

[warped monolith]

I member

played it a bunch in the early days, before it became slop

[split crown]

Super vaguely

However, UE5 got me missing the x-ray engine and all of its buggyness lmao.

[outer depot]

It was always slop it was just briefly enjoyable slop

it was my slop

The closest I think we could get was 4A Engine and splitting the map up into a few big chunks

Was sort of the conclusion last time the discussion came up

Granted they can clearly optimize on UE5 a lot more than it is now, but it won’t ever be well optimized

[peak eagle]

I played it for a few hours, then soon after it was pulled off the store lol

[outer depot]

I genuinely liked survarium gunplay

It was satisfying for what it was

Also the Baikal shotgun was fucking hilarious

[late kernel]

Whole game gone bad when they got the sponsor money to make the game more "COMPETITIVE"

[outer depot]

Yeeeaaah

If it’d just kept trying to be its own thing it might have survived

[warped monolith]

It was cool at first. But then they took way too long to release the pve mode (which was allegedly the main attraction) and then the meta became stale and then the whole 'competitive' crap

[outer depot]

Yeah it took fucking forever

[arctic marsh]

hey whats that mod that lets you change weapon fov

its not even specifically for stalker 2 I downloaded it and cant remember the name of the program

nvm

its flawless widescreen

[real stone]

I have often 40-50 fps on a 3080, yep, its a hell

[pallid mirage]

I got two of the same key, and one is left after using it. I don't exactly remember which quest, but I know I was going to Red Forest for the first time afterward. One key was in a box, one was in a corpse. I guess this is just a souvenir from the Zone...

[arctic marsh]

wow really?

I am getting like 150 fps at 1440p on my 7900XTX maxed out

I got a 9800x3d too though so

This computer is just slaughtering everything I throw at it

[frail verge]

hello

[warped monolith]

hello

[late kernel]

hello

[icy bough]

hello

[split crown]

Although the frame gen isn't perfect by any means, I just refuse to play without it on

I'm rolling with a 3070 and get between like 80-130fps with frame gen active.

[split crown]

What is a 7900XTX like compared to NVIDIA GPUs? I've never used an AMD GPU so I'm not well-versed on how to compare 'em

[real stone]

I refuse to play with it lol
Smooth frames for what if you have shit input lag

[split crown]

That's fair. However, with the way my engine.ini is set, I don't experience any input lag fortunately. Unfortunately, however, the memory leaks are still randomly present throughout the game.

[real stone]

Is there anything worth to change in engine ini?

[split crown]

Try this:
r.OneFrameThreadLag=0 ; This will noticeably reduce input latency, but if you experience drastically lower FPS after using this, delete this line

put it under [SystemSettings] if you have that section in your Engine.ini

[grave frigate]

Does Dynamic Weather decrease performance or the quality of textures? When it rains, everything feels extremely grainy and blurry

[modest ether]

dad you here?/ sorry looking for me dad, you seen him?

[split crown]

no
only skeefa

[true yew]

Work is fucking me over, havent touched the game for a week or two. Anything new?

[split crown]

Nada

!noalife

[fallen iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1306683555488862319/1309254531602972753/Screenshot_2024-11-21-21-13-12-76_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=6740e9cd&is=673f984d&hm=4c16bf5a7fe14ff8f1b81027f51be666771f1c2eb28f8a82498b0e0f436dea10&

[proud ruin]

[golden hazel]

They probably got the crypto patch cooking rn

[proud ruin]

it’s called gopnikcoin

[golden hazel]

And it's been mined from the pcs running Stalker 2 since release

all part of Sergey's master plan

[split crown]

skeefacoin

[finite needle]

mfw the shining zone is actually a plan to actually mine coin using our pcs or some other shit like that

are nfts still even a thing?

[golden hazel]

[true yew]

The crypto comes with the game, its called coupons.

The stockpile of soviet rubles couldnt satisfy the rapid population of stalkers

[golden hazel]

It's freedom propaganda to fund Lukash(Infidel)'s underground bunker to become the next Sidorovich

[humble hedge]

It's fine, runs a little hot though if you pick the AMD version. But you won't get as much frames as a Nvidia card, that's just the unfortunate truth.

It depends on what resolution you're using etc.

[finite needle]

Day 4 of shaders compiling

[west moth]

[arctic marsh]

its fucking amaizn lol

Paid 830 bucks for it and its literally just smashing the hell out of everything I throw at it including games with RT

[unborn linden]

!1214ru

[warped monolith]

I will not listen to anime Scar

[wicked adder]

City 17 and the zone ain’t far from each other tbf

Maybe they just took the wrong turn

[west moth]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-combine-cat-pick-up-gif-27154907

[ripe wave]

idk if this is the right place to ask, but will there be a gamma installer-like thing for stalker 2 aswell?

[warped monolith]

!gamma2

[fallen iron]

Concerning GAMMA 2: check this > #📢announcements message

[late kernel]

Make your OWN GAMMA

make your own hardcore experience that YOU enjoy

we don't have modding kits yet

[acoustic wedge]

i got stalker 2 for free and beaten it, and it is not worth even 20 euros. If hollow knight costs 6 euros, then stalker is worth nothing lmao

the story was catchy, everything else was less than mid. Imagine spending 2 years working on the game, releasing it as a buggy mess that crashes every 20 minutes, that has visual glitches, that has awfull TAA problem and then stomping 60+ euros price tag for the content that was cut out. I can't even imagine a person who, in the right mind would buy it

[stuck condor]

With all the respect Ori and the Will of the Whisps 5 times better than Hollow Knight in the same genre

[acoustic wedge]

ori and the will of wisps is a wonderfull game that is still twice as cheap as slopper 2

[stuck condor]

I can relate though

I decided to create an enemy pool for my game instead of calling them separately