╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[ionic shore]

radar is kinda hard as i heard, how should i prepare for it ?

[tidal cargo]

guys, do y'all think its a better idea for me to buy a nosorog or a regular heavy freedom suit? im concerned that a nosorog might be too expensive to maintain and make batteries for

[kindred parrot]

I'm not sure that's the case, unfortunately
MT and alifeplus might be just unstable on their own

[tidal cargo]

first time i went there i got buttfucked hard. stock up on loads of ammo, meds and if you can, grenades

[heady steeple]

Good lord. This thing with a 1P59 makes for a pretty damn good sniper ay

[brazen plover]

[elfin pine]

Artefacts, decent medium/heavy suit with good base stats + lots of belt slots

Gun..... 5.45 or 5.56 do just fine, 7.62x39 or 9x39 even better
stock up primarily on FMJ and some AP, cost effective strategy is to use FMJ and tear through enemy armor on both headshots and torso hits, while using AP whenever you encounter nosorogs or more than one exo (not a hard requirement)

Early on the main stuff that will help you out with ballistic and rupture resistance because that means less damage taken from getting shot or attacked as well as additional pelts/artefacts to offset negative stats are:

• Jellyfish (low ballistic/rupture res)
• Meat Chunk (ballistic res)
• Empty (ballistic/rupture res)
• Wrenched (ballistic/rupture res)
• Mama's Beads (bleeding recovery)
• Stone Blood (bleeding recovery)
• Eye (bleeding recovery)
• Soul (health regeneration)

then there's pelts
lurker, bloodsucker, chimera and pseudogiant pelts are really good

Once you enter north and get better artefact recipes you can use already obtained artefacts to craft Tier 3 ones like Full Empty, Fireball, Flame, and later on Heart of the Oasis and Compass

The best set for ballistic res is:
Compass, Full Empty, Empty, Heart of the Oasis and Pseudogiant Pelt
If there’s room you can add Fireball and or Flame
(There’s a few +5 belt slot suits in the modpack, even more once 0.9.5 releases on May 1st)

[heady steeple]

with a NOSOROG? yeah

currently doing a weapons test on bandits. Pretty damn fun

[tidal cargo]

thats the best zoom??

[ionic shore]

oh, ty

also, how do i find electronical parts that are used for crafting PDAs and etc. except disassembling flashlights and other things ? can i buy those somewhere or nah

[heady steeple]

nop

[heady steeple]

this is

[tidal cargo]

oh thats pretty good then

[heady steeple]

took a fair bit more ammo than I thought, blegh.

worth it tho. Was pretty funny pretending I have an SVD with a really really big mag

[terse dagger]

so just joined, is the mod not working just now? like at all?

[heady steeple]

mmm.

[tidal cargo]

did you just shoot up some random bandit base??

[terse dagger]

??

[heady steeple]

no, it was a duty mission where bandits are trying to storm the garbage flea market

[brazen plover]

Thats fun mission

[heady steeple]

I just perched on the roof and played "SVD With A Really Big Mag"

[terse dagger]

is there any point in attempting an install just now says do not install the game

[brazen plover]

Myself im a PKM " Zenit " lover

[elfin pine]

no as most likely it'll fail, if you're fine with buying the original game(s) on GOG you can use their One-Click-Mod feature https://www.gog.com/en/game/stalker_gamma

[terse dagger]

i have stalker 2

do i need to buy an older version

[cold spruce]

Can ak 12 still be upgraded to monolith?

[elfin pine]

if it's on GOG you should be fine to install Anomaly/GAMMA there

[terse dagger]

cheers

[ionic shore]

the update is on may 1st right?

[elfin pine]

May 8th

[ionic shore]

oh

[elfin pine]

it was moved due to the launcher/moddb issues

[ionic shore]

😔

[analog pelican]

hello what mods should i untick in the MO to enable teleport companion?

[elfin pine]

its a default feature, press \ under backspace

mod config menu > fair fast travel if you want to rebind it

[analog pelican]

oh thank you! i was searching for it on google then it said i should do this and that i even bind new keys

[vivid notch]

after you are on top of the cnpp, is there somewhere else to go ?

[paper arch]

maybe monolith warlab but idk tbh

[vivid notch]

sorry not on top but after leaving the dungeon || the one under the wish granter ||

[sick forge]

I assume there is no fix yet to having updated your gamma?

[paper arch]

no

[sick forge]

damn man, i didnt think just checking MD5 would fuck the game

[sinful quail]

i had bit of a trouble getting radio work in 100rads bar last time around, but ive noticed there was a different songlist ? or just expanded ?
i coudlnt get to hear this sequence : https://soundcloud.com/jibran-iqbal/stalker-gamma-100-rads-bar - is this still in modpack ?

[mystic pine]

Going prone in a bush ended my Invictus run lmao

Insta killed due to cliping or something

[paper arch]

check mo2 or the website

[dreamy copper]

those are just specific songs. i have made a playlist for the rostok songs

give me a second

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKTetYWaRFD0_Fhsfg3CmyP8w2ZUlOkUs&si=vj0vDPU-U1JvhN7L

has all the 64ish songs that plays in rostok

[sinful quail]

and the commercials and stuff inbetween is still in or removed ? like in that soundcloud recording from ~2024

made it feel very authentic to radio somewhere outside the zone

[dreamy copper]

the commercial stuff is still in the game, thats just side tracks

but i figured it was the songs you were out after. not sure why you would want to listen to commercials

[sinful quail]

alrighty thanks 🙂 so it seems like tracks are majorly expanded since then 🙂

[sinful quail]

actually i was just worried the radio is not as authentic as it was before 😛 ingame

[dreamy copper]

ah

then nothing to worry about, those "commercial" sections and random shit plays inbetween

[sinful quail]

perfect ^^ thank you for everythiiing

ill delve into the gamma zone once more

[potent iron]

Minimum: 9mm+ SMG with 30 round magazines. You can comfortably get through as long as you mostly land headshots using just 9mm hollow points on a full auto platform like the MP5. I've done it many times. If you need to, get a full sized rifle. It's less so about what you use, more so about how much ammo you have to use, because it will take quite a lot. Expect to fight 80 or so enemies that will take multiple shots to go down, not to mention potentially mutants on the way there.

I have done BS with a 9mm pistol, and I don't recommend that, but you can do it.

[steady panther]

is this quest bugged? I already have the items but cant turn it in...

[potent iron]

Artefacts are useful but optional.

[dreamy copper]

150 rounds, 10 uses of army medkit

x means stacks

ammo stacks in 15. medkits stacks in uses of 2

[steady panther]

oh I'm stupid

[potent iron]

I'd say mandatory equipment is at least 200 rounds of ammo depending on caliber, and about 5-6 medkits.

[steady panther]

thanks

[dreamy copper]

👍

[dreamy copper]

speaking of which. i might check the xml file for that quest and see if its possible to make it be more descriptive in the amount it requires

and see if it could be added to 0.9.5 if possible.

[frail vine]

sup

[potent iron]

Just don't try to do brain scorcher with a pistol, or a bolt action, or bring too little ammo. Also do a hard save before you enter the lab itself.

[dreamy copper]

sup

[potent iron]

It's just a gear check, it's not actually that hard.

Imo miracle machine is harder. Or rather, more annoying.

[lofty egret]

??

mm is many fucking times easier than radar

[dreamy copper]

debatable

radar is static spawns every single time, same spot

[quick shore]

just click em heads bro. You can do it even with a knife

[dreamy copper]

so if its the first time: sure its more difficult, if its not the first time, its miles easier than MM

[vivid notch]

MM was a pain, at least radar was enjoyable

[potent iron]

Not for me it isn't. I'm good at killing humans. I'm bad at killing mutants, and I hate zombie HP snorks with psychic powers hitting me through walls.

[frail vine]

mm is also static spawns

[dreamy copper]

scripted spawns =/= static

[quick shore]

get psy res

[potent iron]

I have gone through brain scorcher with an M9 9mm pistol using hollow points. I would never go into miracle machine with anything less than a full auto mutant killer AND a shotgun.

[vivid notch]

for MM take a LOT of grenade

[frail vine]

in mm burers can kill bloodsuckers so its easier ??

[dreamy copper]

the monos will be on the same exact spot every time if you just do the rooms properly
MM it can be random wether the burers will cuck you at stairs and you cant get to them properly or not

[frail vine]

the psi phantoms are more of a threat than mutants

[magic blaze]

i like the implication that youre so incredibly autistic you memorised all monolith spawns after one playthrough

[dreamy copper]

its 26 monolith, and you can lean into a room before they even aggro

[magic blaze]

just eat those red pills and bring like one arty

[dreamy copper]

if you cant memorize things then, you're just dumb

[potent iron]

When they can 3 shot you through a wall, yeah, I hate 'em.

[vivid notch]

after dying ten time, you start remembering where monolith scum camp

[frail vine]

i mean its the same spawns from original games
they spawn when u enter the bs not after disabling like in original

[magic blaze]

well yes but blobflin seems firmly in the very very good but very detached area

[frail vine]

the ladder

[dreamy copper]

and if you quickly lean into a room and headshot each of them 1 by 1, the other rooms wont aggro

[magic blaze]

are yall doing a different version of BS than me, both of those claims are just wrong in my game

[dreamy copper]

do you know how to exploit the AI thro leaning into a corner?

if you dont, you can just slow walk with the lean into each room and if you kill them quickly 1 by 1 they wont chain aggro

[vivid notch]

by the way, does anyone have come across an SR-25 or M14 ? I read you can find it but after mowing more than 300 monolith, i didn't find any. I just found an ak-alpha after 50hour of game

[dreamy copper]

other rooms dont load in properly unless you aggro the squad

its just how the game works, i have no clue how you do it, but thats just how the instance works

[dire python]

Hi

[potent iron]

M14 is definitely a mod.

[frail vine]

i do bs with shotgun its not hard

[inner cargo]

game cant be installed what do I do now? I dont want to touch grass I want to touch anomalies

[eager acorn]

hello

[magic blaze]

yeah ive been doing it normal without exploits but even then i quite literally got different rooms to agro and walk into mine

[dire python]

How are u doin

[eager acorn]

im doing finne

[vivid notch]

i see, well i will not look for it then, but what about sr 25 ?

[dire python]

Finnneeee

[dreamy copper]

i can do a run right after ive eaten in the latest update with the patched "aggro timers" if you want

and show you what i mean

[magic blaze]

then again i also had more spawn after disabling so who knows whats happening

[dusk chasm]

meanwhile i prefer using sr2m on bs coz of the RoF and using AP or FMJ(artigrok for 9x21 fmj)

[magic blaze]

latest update
yeah that might be the issue maybe? i dont know when i last updated

[frail vine]

the ai is tuned down so much it doesnt even spam grenade anymore

[potent iron]

This is the best I can personally do, is a pistol. 9x18 or 9x19 doesn't make a huge difference, though makarov would be significantly more annoying. I don't recommend it at all, this was painful.

[magic blaze]

sure maybei just dont get it

[dusk chasm]

berreta?

[potent iron]

Ye

[dreamy copper]

luckily the enemy isnt as braindead in 0.9.5 as in 0.9.4 it seems due to the MT engines handling the npc scripts much better and faster. but its still quite braindead

[dusk chasm]

have you tried a glock 18 hornet?

[dreamy copper]

and they seem to chuck grenades abit more often

[eager acorn]

oh wow

[potent iron]

Oh that'd be a lot easier.

[frail vine]

i challange myself to do it with 40 barrikadas i try to 1 shot the monoliths
i like it when the go flying

[dusk chasm]

[frail vine]

that would be way too easy imo easier than shotgun

[potent iron]

I like the lever action for that reason.

[eager acorn]

do m1014 next with slugs

[dreamy copper]

i have a few videos from 0.9.4 of doing like a slug shotgun run, a normal speedrun etc etc, but i can just do a fresh run with something random asf to show it abit better.

in how the npcs aggro

[frail vine]

its good but useless without artigrok fmj against monolith

[potent iron]

Mosin, has stripper clips so it's more doable than K98K. Would illustrate your point

[heady steeple]

whoa. That's... pretty cool.

[dusk chasm]

i got this yesterday too

[potent iron]

I almost did BS with the Kar98, but I ran out of time reloading the fucking thing because it's single rounds.

[hollow herald]

Guys i dont understand sneak. I jumped into the agroprom military base, killed a guy with a suppressed weapon, and then everybody came to me??

[dreamy copper]

done it plenty of times super easy with the x39 conversion for k98 cuz that shit would just one shot anyways

[frail vine]

i will dew it when the launcher get fixed
surely it will get fixed

[eager acorn]

mosin doesnt use stripper clip on newer 3dss i think? iirc

[elfin pine]

the concept of "casual stealth" doesn't exist in stalker

[dreamy copper]

correct. it doesnt

[dusk chasm]

loads bullet per bullet

[heady steeple]

is it neato? I'm thinkin of switching my P90 with this

[elfin pine]

once you hit something the enemies know the position from which you shot from

[magic blaze]

silencer is a scam, its more of a slightly less loudener

[paper arch]

just use the Mosin
I forgot 3DSS cut the balls of that

[hollow herald]

What does that mean?

[eager acorn]

ye, same as kar pretty much

[dusk chasm]

its a bit hard to use coz of how slow the RoF

[elfin pine]

the idea is to kinda hit/kill > switch position > shoot or wait > repeat

[dusk chasm]

im only using RSH12 as a meme handcannon with a scope

[potent iron]

I've done a lot of testing with stealth recently. It seems to be based on NPC more so than locational.

[frail vine]

revolver with slow ass reload and cool ass animation

[elfin pine]

picking off targets one by one slowly without detection as long as you break eyesight and make no noise

[potent iron]

Some NPCs will aggro the entire base regardless of how silently you took them down, or how far away they are.

[heady steeple]

I'll live with it

[paper arch]

the usual modern FPS game stealth where nobody has ears and NPCs only see for like 10 meters unless alerted

[heady steeple]

all i'm hearing is "worth it"

[dreamy copper]

its not based on npc. its entirely random and inconsistent

[dusk chasm]

so dont kill them near faction base?

[coral grove]

whats up with lurkers having chimera hides

[frail vine]

i feel like i aim better with a red dot than the 8x scope with it

[potent iron]

It is totally based on NPCs in some areas, like Freedom Base. If you take out any of the guards at the front entrance, REGARDLESS of how silent you were, or how far away they are from others, they will aggro EVERYONE in the base. Including the faction leaders.

[nova folio]

not a thing? what'd you install, first time hearing about it

[potent iron]

But you can kill 99% of the base without ever aggroing anyone.

[dreamy copper]

nah. thats not true. its just random.

[coral grove]

the only thing i have thats really game changing is alife+

[frail vine]

ever heard of mysterious rex

[vestal ledge]

guys i missclicked update on gamma launcher i think im gonna end my life

[elfin pine]

just close the command prompt..

[nova folio]

maybe you confused the models then and actually did kill chimera?

[heady steeple]

I'm starting to think KS 23 on bandits is a bit overkill

[coral grove]

no it was a lurker

[dreamy copper]

ive killed those guards plenty of times testing the new MT engines for 0.9.5 and most of the time they dont aggro anyone, other times whole base aggroes regardless of who i kill

[potent iron]

I reloaded a save about 50 times to test this, did it from different angles, did it with different weapons. Knife, suppressed sniper rifle, subsonic suppressed handgun, from different distances, at different times.

[eager acorn]

i still cant get over the chud supressor

[elfin pine]

this can happen because npc's or "guards" are tied to faction leaders for example

army warehouses specifically has that

[potent iron]

Every single time I was able to kill 98% of the freedom base, but the instant I touched any guards at the front, the entire base aggro'd

[vestal ledge]

it was to late i couldnt load my save and now we cant even fresh install the game im so cooked

[elfin pine]

the various stalkers outside the building are tied to lukash

[frail vine]

that supressor is so cursed

[heady steeple]

no but I know Generator Rex

[heady steeple]

Its perfectly normal for its size okay :(

[dreamy copper]

with npcs being able to go and take up certain spots, alot of times they dont attribute factors properly

its just entirely random. you cant know who has increased fov, who is in the same "squad" as the faction leader etc

[elfin pine]

but even then, kill > leave > return once everyone loses aggro

[eager acorn]

wtf is this loadout

[elfin pine]

that's the "stealth"

[nova folio]

why are you launching gamma with installer anyways

[frail vine]

duty is so much easy u get the sr2m for free
nerf duty and buff freedom

[eager acorn]

this before a helmet is insane

[potent iron]

Also what Oflin references here as a strat, I do this to dead city, and I managed to kill every single Merc without them ever firing a shot at me, because I just kept relocating.

[elfin pine]

loud

thanks

[coral grove]

lurkers been eating the chimeras

[nova folio]

whatever is going on with your game is fucking broken
not only Lurkers dont drop Chimera hides

But Bubble is not obtainable before Brain Scorcher

....easy difficulty thing maybe...?

[dreamy copper]

meanwhile the house across from the sports center will have them pile up at the doorway and lose aggro

[quasi sierra]

Freedom gets to drive btrs

[vestal ledge]

i legit never do that but just this time i pressed the wrong gamma icon lmao

[eager acorn]

not even that
the artifact bruh

[frail vine]

merc killing soothes my heart

[quasi sierra]

You can get it in mm if dao loves you

[magic blaze]

early game bandit maxxing

[quasi sierra]

Or buy from flea market?

[frail vine]

is the bubble even good?
never used it

[quasi sierra]

Or only flame and flash idk

[potent iron]

I'm usually playing as the Merc, but this playthrough was dooty time. But I got really bored and now I'm doing a mostly melee run as Monolith

[sullen jasper]

i found this thing in Jupiter what is this supposed to be

[nova folio]

afaik can't either

DAO doesnt spawn anything besides tier 1 in south (only tier 2 up north)
and Flea Market only sells Flame its a static tier 3 they sell

[dreamy copper]

or just sit on a roof. they walk underneath you. they say "we've lost him bla bla bla blyat blyat" and now the entire area is unaggroed. machine yard is a good example for this

[frail vine]

or install arrival and pray for a garbage knot

[eager acorn]

that early?

[quasi sierra]

You can get t3 in underground maps

[nova folio]

thats true

[eager acorn]

yeah but it doesnt spawn with low detectors?

[elfin pine]

well yes, just staying out of sight works

[solar sigil]

Finally got a decent kit going.

[quasi sierra]

You can even get volat emerald before bs if you grind a lot

[dreamy copper]

its funny how 1 person says they cant find you and every other enemy just abides by it

[quasi sierra]

Grizzly detects every artefact

[dreamy copper]

"oh look guys, retarded lil timmy said he didnt find the enemy. ignore that guy standing over there"

[potent iron]

Implicit trust

[eager acorn]

but the ss has echo tho...

[frail vine]

whats the point

[eager acorn]

idk im over it

[elfin pine]

i mean....... it does happen irl kinda in the daily life

you look for something with your friend, brother whatever
you can't find it... so one of you just says....... fuck it

[solar sigil]

Anybody know if theres a scope for the p90? the iron sights suuuuuuck

[quasi sierra]

He disassembled it to hide evidence

[dreamy copper]

fuck. you've got a point. i guess gamma truly doesnt fake realism

[nova folio]

fuck....

he's good

[frail vine]

u can buya bear from a duty guy on the WL barricade for 14k

[nova folio]

theres yellow/tan P90 that has a rail mount instead of integrated
its rare version of it tho

[eager acorn]

bear not a grizzly

[frail vine]

day 2 bear

[potent iron]

@dreamy copper I'm now abusing the fact that enemy AI really sucks at CQC, and using a knife as Monolith to kill people while jamming to Mongolian throat singing. It's definitely a vibe.

[nova folio]

i assume you meant red dot and not "iron sights"...?

[potent iron]

Never underestimate just how strong melee is, because they do not know how to deal with it.

[frail vine]

[solar sigil]

Well the search is on then 😩

[eager acorn]

you read

[potent iron]

"Yes, please, stop shooting at me with your fully automatic shotgun so you can lightly shove me while I repeatedly stab you in the eye with my monoblade™"

[kindred swallow]

is there something I can do about? MP7+ECHO1 thermal sight = crash

[frail vine]

[noble heart]

Try dragging your P90 into your pistol slot

[solar sigil]

wait wut

[solar sigil]

I can do that?!

[potent iron]

yup

[unique heath]

some SMGs can fit in your secondary slot

[solar sigil]

holy shet

[unique heath]

kinda OP so I never do.

[frail vine]

well i cant read

[potent iron]

You can also put your knife in your vision slot.

Blade vision

[kindred swallow]

well it's understandable. That's why asking there at the end

[solar sigil]

I only ever keep mine in my inventory for quick melee

but thanks for the smg tip though I'm stoked I can run 3 good guns at the same time lmao

[potent iron]

Never underestimate how strong a knife can be with the heavy/light attack spam.

[solar sigil]

oh my...

[elfin kiln]

[unique heath]

huh guardian of freedom doesnt have radiation resistance

[paper arch]

it is a beril after all

[unique heath]

seems only science gear has rad protection and of course most if not all helmets

[eager acorn]

are you hovering over it from debug

[paper arch]

"stalking oriented" suits tend to have rad res too

[unique heath]

yeah i never noticed until i started using daytime radiation and toxic zone

[potent iron]

Also that's just a hunting knife, with like level 1 melee skill. Max tier knife with decent levels? You're one shotting armored dudes.

[unique heath]

not at the moment, no.

i just noticed it comparing it to my stolen duty suit

[dreamy copper]

this reminded me of the bug where it visualy showed cloth mask to have 80% or something ballistic res in the crafting UI

[eager acorn]

weird i never really used the scientist suit anymore ngl

[dreamy copper]

and people went nuts over it

[eager acorn]

if you wear enough cloth mask surely

[dreamy copper]

true

[potent iron]

The clothiest mask

[dreamy copper]

me with 20 t shirts on

[unique heath]

big fan of diegetic changes like that in games. Where suits that obviously look more like it needs to be good for X is actually good for x

[dreamy copper]

is truly a force to be reckoned with

cant imagine 20 cloth masks

[potent iron]

Oh what suit is that? THat's what my Hip model wears.

[unique heath]

ps5 mt suit

[solar sigil]

hahaha lets go, good to know

[unique heath]

idk if its accurate to other gamma players, since i use stalker 2 models

[abstract vapor]

The stash mark on my map ... Was marking a bird ... Like wtf ?

[unique heath]

bird stole your shiny

[abstract vapor]

Bastard sold it all he ain't got shit

[unique heath]

Oooo fellow GFY enjoyer

[potent iron]

Pickle pee

Pump-a-rum

[eager acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-looking-looking-at-the-phone-mad-disappointed-gif-11158875379675471729

[unique heath]

tbh im more scared of fighting bloodsuckers than I am of chimeras at this point lol

[pine night]

i think that's hip but not from gfy

[potent iron]

I'm more scared of Snorks than I am Nosorog Monolith

[hollow herald]

sO,

[unique heath]

yeah but those look too HQ to be DUX and its definitely not HD Models

[potent iron]

(It's HD models Hip)

[pine night]

yea the model itself was taken from gfy but manually upgraded by author

[unique heath]

[pine night]

still mid

[hollow herald]

So, the way the stealth works (with stealth kills enabled) is that if i shoot, people will hear the shot and come investigate, so i shouldnt be there anymore or shoot from far enough that they dont hear. And if i shoot someone next tp someone else, i will be insta-spotted? Or they will just be alerted to where im at?

[pine night]

honestly it's for the best if you just take stalker 2 models and put it above what we have

[unique heath]

thats fine. I prefer S2 models anyway.

[pine night]

but not from gfy because they look shitty and low quality

[potent iron]

I just wanted evil nega-hip in black for my Merc playthrough, and I kind of just left her with her black suit on. It looks better.

[pine night]

||for CHRIST'S SAKE THE TEXTURES ARE IN 16K IF YOU TAKE THEM STRAIGHT FROM STALKER 2||

[unique heath]

my pc never noticed and its a below average gpu

[eager acorn]

i assume the engine downscales it cause aint no way

[unique heath]

70% ish usage with 64bit exe

[pine night]

the original are in 16k
so it's pain in the ass to work it
gfy manually downscaled, while s2 is UE5 and lord that is pain in the ass to work with

[potent iron]

These are extremely complicated questions that will be answerable by experimenting yourself and getting a feel for what you can and cannot get away with. They will not always know where you are just because they are alerted. Sometimes, however, (especially if it involves faction leaders) they will become omniscient and just know.

[unique heath]

i remember HD models gave me stuttering issues so I stopped using them

[unique heath]

and sometimes they're dumb as bricks.

I wish seeing allied dead bodies alerted AI to investigate and search

like bruh, I just shot and killed a guy 2 ft from you. What do you mean you dont know Im here?

[potent iron]

He was already like that when I got here

[unique heath]

not paid enough to give a shit

"bro im just here until my tour is over"

[hollow herald]

Tried the same thing you just did, at night, with a supressed kar98. Everyone came to where i was

[potent iron]

This is why, if you can't kill 5 people in 5 seconds, you relocate.

[hollow herald]

I wish it was closer to metro's sneak, that was so good

[abstract vapor]

But srsly anyone got any solution to this? If I shoot the fucker he ain't got shit and the mark just stays where he died

[potent iron]

This is fairly realistic-ish to how you'd be detected IRL if you were just taking shots at people. It's pretty easy to identify general direction from shots, even suppressed.

They then investigate, in that direction, and if they spot you then everyone is now alerted because tracer fire on target

If you aren't there, they won't see you, they'll lose aggro.

I should have recorded that time in Freedom Base where I aggro'd the entire base, but jumped off the tower and sprinted to another tower, and I watched as they all climbed the tower and aimlessly looked around for me, before I started killing again.

[fossil stream]

what is late game artifact meta? like best in slot

[potent iron]

full empty

In my case, generator so I don't have to keep replacing stupid fucking batteries.

[hollow herald]

My man, i just stabbed someone in the back (and oneshotted him). 5 secs later another guy is coming for me

[potent iron]

Like I said earlier, some enemies are tied in aggro to other enemies. Sometimes it's unavoidable that you will aggro two enemies. Save often and figure it out.

Killing the gate guard in freedom base will aggro the entire base, including the faction leader.

[steady panther]

Cursed just fully repaired it and still has jam chance of almost 2%

[potent iron]

Regardless of who was around to see it, or how you did it.

[night canopy]

Why can you put knives in your vision slot???

[potent iron]

So your vision is sharper

[hollow herald]

Is there any way of making stealth more sensible?

[potent iron]

Get better at it? Idk, not really no. There are some mods I guess that change how stealth works, but it will never be perfect.

[unique heath]

Ooo first nosorog

[hollow herald]

Understood. So just git gud

[potent iron]

If I can take out entire faction bases without ever being shot at, I'd say the stealth works fine.

It's clunky and requires a lot of prerequisite knowledge, like who aggros what, but it's doable.

[muted citrus]

I love you game ❤️

[tepid glen]

and that right there is why stealth in stalker is absolute shitshow. it barely works, which is a pleasant surprise, but lets not compare it to any proper stealth game

[potent iron]

'Proper' stealth games also hand hold the shit out of you because real stealth is almost impossible.

The instant you get spotted a single time, stealth is over. Permanently.

[paper arch]

not really, it's bound to the stalker AI which is slavjank

[tepid glen]

thief did it almost 30 years ago 😄

[paper arch]

NPCs in thief also have a lot less sight range and you move in naturally dark environments

so the only "stealth" possible in stalker is sniping from 50+ meters and then hiding instantly
which is boring as fuck

[potent iron]

You can do it with pistols/knives, but it is harder.

[tawdry depot]

shot someone in the head with buckshot and all he did was stumble, curse then ignore the fact he was shot (i had to shoot him again)

[tepid glen]

they also dont see you trough bushes with magic xray vision. they dont suddenly know exactly where you are as they find a corpse. they do not have noise detection unless already agroed, and when they did, it was hilarious snap of a twig alerting entire base. on and on and on the list goes

[paper arch]

it's mainly extremely inconsistent and the game doesn't really tell you how close you are to detection

or hell, if you've been detected at all

[potent iron]

It's kind of realistic in that sense. Stealth is hard IRL. You can't really take out a dude next to a dude, without the other guy hearing it.

[paper arch]

the detection meter in GAMMA is getting a few bullets in your back

[potent iron]

I don't care how suppressed and subsonic your pew pew is to the point to where it goes 'click', they will still hear the impact of a bullet entering a human being's skull.

[paper arch]

realistic, maybe
fun, no

[potent iron]

It makes quite the racket. Also dying makes a lot of noise too.

[tawdry depot]

i do heavy stealth ||murder everyone fast||

[paper arch]

especially when you consider that GAMMA is VERY far away from any sort of milsim

[potent iron]

The only flaw I've found with stalker stealth is the weird omniscient AI binding, like shooting this one particular AI aggros everyone no matter what, is quite silly. Otherwise it's realistic stealth.

[paper arch]

again
realism isn't fun

[potent iron]

So is Arma but that's still called one 🙂

[paper arch]

that's besides the point

[potent iron]

I do love my milsims

[quick shore]

smh. you sat on it wrong

[paper arch]

you can go on about how "well, irl it works like this"
and you can even be correct
but none of that amounts to ANYTHING in a videogame

[tepid glen]

stealth in gamma isnt broken because you cant blackjack dude next to a dude, which is exactly how it works if you enable stealth kills in gamma. it has to do with agro states, how detection works on engine level, enemy memory and detection range, even when you are in perfect camo sitting in a bush. a shitshow, in short

[eager acorn]

me when a dude announced in the pda chat "i just heard a melee" like what

[potent iron]

It's just a way of rationalizing it. Obviously it's jank, but it's jank in a way that makes it realistically hard. So just think of it as hard, and not just 50 layers of jank barely functioning.

[paper arch]

you do you

[empty iris]

Ah yes, apparently someone heard my single Kukri swing while I was in the Iron Forest lab and he was in Skadovsk

[eager acorn]

coping mechanism

[paper arch]

they don't actually know you're there tho

[night canopy]

Is there a way to cancel taking meds if I accidentally take them

[paper arch]

iirc there's a keybind in FDDA for that

[potent iron]

R button by default

[eager acorn]

ik that, but shit is so stupid every time

[paper arch]

yeah I just have that shit turned off

[empty iris]

I wish there was a way to turn off eating animation but keep the med animation

[eager acorn]

there is
if you do it yourself

[potent iron]

I like the extremely immersive animation of eating a can of beans while fully sprinting my monolith character across Jupiter to the beat of mongolian throat rock

[eager acorn]

dont ask me how

im out here learning to animate hands

[hollow herald]

Ive played a shit ton of Dishonored, thats my golden standard for stealth. Plus the sound queues and AI behaviour were so good you could play with detection markers turned off and still know whats going on

[drowsy knot]

Thats two times for every hundred rounds, or every 3 mags

[paper arch]

https://tenor.com/view/scrape-okuyasu-nijimura-za-hando-the-hand-jojo-gif-14165071

[tepid glen]

frankly i am always so impressed by how quickly i eat the can of beans that i get bonked out of immersion immediately

[potent iron]

I liked Splinter Cell, personally.

[potent iron]

Never been so hungry you two scooped some beans?

[empty iris]

Dude you've never eaten a can of beans like that then

[paper arch]

Chaos Theory is just

[eager acorn]

kind of crazy that the thing makes me want to learn rig and 3d animating is for modding

[unique heath]

i can eat an entire burger in 20 seconds or less

a slurpable can of beans should be pretty manageable

[empty iris]

I once finished a whole pizza in under 50 seconds

[eager acorn]

meanwhile ive "practiced" blender for years and never really had any motivation

[potent iron]

I equate Gamma stealth with the original Ghost Recon's stealth

[tepid glen]

not sure if flex or self reporting going on in chat but K

[empty iris]

Blender too complicated for my retard ass

[unique heath]

what you think is none of my business anyway

[potent iron]

Yes it is entirely possible to fully stealth a ghost recon mission, but holy fuck is it hard. 90% of it relying on "Do they see me?"

[eager acorn]

who me?
my fault gng

[potent iron]

Think of it as ghillie suit stealth, not splinter cell stealth. Where ghillie suit stealth they know you are fucking there, they just don't know where. Splinter Cell stealth is they have no idea you exist.

[merry citrus]

jusst wanna check .. i assume you can do story missions whenever and you're not really limited by them right? I just tried to do the agropom underground and got obliterated by mutants after barely surviving the initial bandits

[unique heath]

its possible, particularly at night and during rain. Ive snuck in a fully packed bandit camp without a disguise to loot a stash right next to the technician where bandits sleep.

[tepid glen]

funny way to say "abusing wonky engine mechanics"

[eager acorn]

it aint too hard to learn the basics
if you keep making excuses in your head anything can seem impossible

[unique heath]

yeah, but you are still limited from going north if you dont disable the brain scorcher and miracle machine.

which are both significantly harder than agroprom underground

[potent iron]

No, stealth was a genuine mechanic in ghost recon, but it's hard to avoid being spotted. Because enemies will hear shots, and rush to investigate them. If they spot you, at any point, stealth is effectively no longer an option until you've cleared the ENTIRE AREA.

[merry citrus]

that's fine .. is it possible to get advanced tools before or am i stuck with light armor?

[empty iris]

Yes absolutely

[unique heath]

should be fine with advanced tools around mid zone

[merry citrus]

alright then i know my next objective 😄

[potent iron]

Like I said, enemies know you are there, just not where. Think of it like that, and stealth in Gamma makes more sense from a player perspective of what you need to do.

[empty iris]

Do quests for Duty or Freedom in Army Warehouses or Rostok as they have thr highest chance of a yellow stash with advanced tools

[empty iris]

That you can get without going north

[potent iron]

You can straight up lose aggro and restealth just from going around a corner in Gamma, which is amazing to me.

[merry citrus]

alright thank you 🙂 I've mostly just been playing in Cordon and swamps so far so i really should probably start moving more north

[tepid glen]

stelt, truly

[unique heath]

i spent too much time doing contracts in garbage, i fuckin hate going there now lol

[empty iris]

!tools

[hearty saffron]

@merry citrus
To get a yellow stash, finish 7 tasks, then keep doing things that will get you stash coordinates (e.g. more tasks, opening PDAs, looting bodies). You get a 50% chance of receiving a yellow stash each time. This resets upon finding a yellow stash - then you need to do 7 more tasks, and look for more stash coordinates afterwards.
⠀

[potent iron]

Check this shit out, this is how cool stealth is in Gamma. I completely surprised this guy, just by getting elevation on him. That's amazing to me. Yes it is jank, but you can't do that in 99% of other games including proper stealth games.

[merry citrus]

oh also is pp19 viable for the most part or should i be looking into another weapon? I've been doing fine so far but it feels like i gotta invest a lot to get antoher weapon to be in such a good state as the one i started with

[empty iris]

Tbf that could work irl

[tepid glen]

im getting the feeling you and i have wildly different understandings for the word "stealth", but k.

[muted citrus]

Hk416 🤤

[paper arch]

you... outflanked him?
that's possible to do in basically every single FPS game

[potent iron]

Nope. UDP-9 😉

[empty iris]

PP19 is pretty good, can load 9x19 HP which is good for mutants

[muted citrus]

it looked so similar

[eager acorn]

pretty solid gun
which one tho, vityaz or bizon

[paper arch]

yeah me too

[merry citrus]

I started with vityaz

I did found a bison though

[eager acorn]

vityaz is pretty viable, even for miracle machine

[empty iris]

Assuming Vityaz, nobody uses bizon despite it having insane mutant killing capability

[potent iron]

Not really. Try that while aggro'd in something like far cry? You'll just get shot at, because they track you through walls. OR the game is extra hand holdy and they just inconsistently lose aggro because 'out of sight out of mind'. In this case he visually reacted to me jumping up onto the truck, but couldn't turn in time because I surprised him.

It's really hard to replicate that kind of encounter in video games with AI.

[tepid glen]

nah, spartan is right.

[unique heath]

its not common to have enemies track your last position, usually once they're aggro'd, they stay aggro'd

[eager acorn]

coping mechanism

[paper arch]

far cry NPCs run at the last known positions
please stop spreading misinformation

[unique heath]

that or they completely forget altogether.

[potent iron]

Yeah, there are only a handful of games that come to mind where that is a real mechanic.

[eager acorn]

i like social stealth mechanics more, like AC unity
butttt offtopic

[paper arch]

for example
that splinter cell game you mentioned?

[drowsy knot]

im boutta spread my misinformation all over your face and lower back

Gothic/Arx Fatalis/Deus Ex also sorta did it too

[tepid glen]

not only that, but in stalker they do this funny thing where everybody knows your exact last known location and they will fire on that location with perfect accuracy, hence why fighting stalkers or even zombified in GS is such a pain in arse.

[potent iron]

Like Helldivers can't even do that atm and they tout a stealth mechanic now.

[paper arch]

Blacklist literally gives you an outline so you see where the enemy thinks you are

you're just talking out of your ass to praise barely functioning slavjank

[eager acorn]

if helldivers add a stealth mechanic im gonna freak out, in a bad way

[unique heath]

tbf, if they gave mobs higher intelligence when it comes to stealth, it'll basically be impossible unless you're solo

[potent iron]

They added suppressed mechanics. It is theoretically possible to 'stealth' but they track your current location, not last known.

[eager acorn]

they be doing the most for absolutely no reason

[unique heath]

i dont think its a matter of whether or not they're able to; i think its just not a good idea.

[paper arch]

I'm not gonna try to convince him, it's just tiring atp

[eager acorn]

coping mechanism to hide the mind fuckery of the old engine

[unique heath]

i like getting pinned down by stalkers. especially when you're playing high risk game modes like ironman, you actually have to lock in.

[nova folio]

speaking of old engine fuckery
apparently time_scale and time_scale are different things

[empty iris]

He's right, though it's more they know what direction you were moving in, have perfect hearing, and somehow bushes aren't concealment 50% of the time

[potent iron]

Yes, but it is also very hand holdy. Most dedicated stealth games are. Like I said, Gamma stealth is jank, but you can do some neat things in it.

[nova folio]

one is time_scale for world clock and one is time_scale for speeding up the game

[potent iron]

I genuinely hate stealth in games like Far Cry because it's so obviously hand-held it's no longer fun.

[nova folio]

actually fucking deranged

[paper arch]

sure man

[eager acorn]

time_scale or time_factor

cause you said the same thing there

[eager acorn]

oh

[nova folio]

oh im actually insane
time_scale

[unique heath]

so how the fuck do you differentiate

[eager acorn]

oh

[unique heath]

ohh lmao

[nova folio]

one is console command one is alife.ltx

[paper arch]

!hasalife

[hearty saffron]

⠀

[nova folio]

but both named the same

[potent iron]

I literally posted a video of me stealthing all of dead city, and another of me stealthing all of freedom base, but whatever.

[unique heath]

Fuck i want to turn on soulslike but dont want to start a new game

cant do it if i never started with it

i might just cheap it out and just debug menu like 4 weapons, toolkits and rep with 1 faction.

[potent iron]

The jank where they instantly know where you are is more rare than you think, funnily.

[unique heath]

im maxed the fuck out with Mercs. 3k goodwill and im top 5 on the rep board

[eager acorn]

maybe it is time for a soulslike run

[empty iris]

That's because all NPCs seemingly share the same hivemind, and when one guy spots you, anyone else currently engaging you snaps to your location.

[unique heath]

yeah im at that point where im struggling feel incentivized to continue lol

[mint holly]

Are the outskirts mercs more likely to have the ACE suit on? Or is it all the same

[potent iron]

It's weird because I've had moments where only one enemy in a group knew where I was, the rest were blind.

[final blaze]

You can thank the stealth mod in gamma for that. In vanilla anomaly behavior stealth is practically impossible

[potent iron]

It's hard to know exactly what triggers it.

[unique heath]

tbh ive never seen mercs do patrols in outskirts. ive only seen mercs in the book store

[potent iron]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[empty iris]

Because he was the only one actively engaging you from what I've seen

[tepid glen]

i know what you mean. its not the point. i can "stealth" in stalker, its not unique skill you have. its simply not good, and at times its bullshit. its the bullshit that matters, especially when you are doing invictus etc and the jank gets you killed.

[final blaze]

Just dont try to do goofy experimental risky stealth strats in invictus of all things

[potent iron]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-zuko-thats-rough-buddy-thats-rough-gif-4264932

[unique heath]

its better to just do disguises in ironman/invictus runs anyway.

more predictable

[final blaze]

Hell nah, even they can bug out and you get insta detected randomly sometimes despite not being close to anybody and having an empty detection meter

[unique heath]

i guess ive been lucky

[final blaze]

Unreliable

[potent iron]

I don't do invictus runs because I know how janky slavjank code can be. Like that time ALL of Rookie Village randomly aggro'd on me and repeatedly killed me.

and I had to console command them to stop being assholes.

[final blaze]

[paper arch]

stop taking the bait, he's literally posting gifs now

[tepid glen]

yeah,

[eager acorn]

but dont you like janky bullshit
that was literally what youre preaching

[nova folio]

oh really
Guy named troll is trolling people and was never right about a single thing

[potent iron]

Like if I lost an Invictus run to this I'd uninstall.

[paper arch]

bread found at bakery, I know

[nova folio]

the only thing its revealing is how fucking dumb gamma players are ongod

[potent iron]

The game is fun or I wouldn't play it. I just have limits to what I'm willing to put up with, and experimenting with the stealth mechanics (or lack there of) is fun.

[nova folio]

i baked some bread it was delicious

[paper arch]

I had some fresh bread with butter this morning
local bakery do be bussin 😋

[uneven kite]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-bread-gif-10184446768704095641

[eager acorn]

i had like 6 cups of black coffee today

[final blaze]

Yeah hideout furniture tends to glitch out if you no collision it into walls or objects, try to avoid doing that

[potent iron]

MightyAltroll was my screen name when I played Algol professionally in tournaments in Soul Calibur IV/V. But go off, king.

[final blaze]

Usually if you place a furniture into something with no collision and then touch it, itll glitch out and drift around, potentially also killing you

[tepid glen]

ended my invictus run once like this. BRRRRRRTDEAD

looked nice as floor paneling tho

[eager acorn]

i actually never baked bread

[potent iron]

It's just an anomaly, stalker.

[final blaze]

What? Your body?

If im doing invictus id never try to do a fancy hideout or some shit, too risky

[nova folio]

you'd be amazed how easy it is
only takes 10 minutes of actual work

[fast pumice]

finishes the tutorial quest
Fanatic immediately turns his AK on me and autos

[eager acorn]

i might try one day

[eager acorn]

you prob accidentally shot him before

[tepid glen]

actually it was fine untill it overlapped with another furniture object. the moment you placed the other, the wall piece turned into instant death

[potent iron]

Or that time I came back to Rookie Village and found this:

[fast pumice]

Or he was with me when I killed a Free Stalker and silent aggro'd.

[empty iris]

Isn't the tutorial quest broken because you need a lead lined container which you can iirc only get from intercept missions?

[eager acorn]

could be

[fast pumice]

But like the weird shit is that he was fine until you go "check his stash".

[final blaze]

LMAO

[eager acorn]

by text ye
but you can just give the arti as is

[fast pumice]

Then he turned hostile.

[tepid glen]

0.9.4 works fine

[fast pumice]

You don't even give the artifact lmao.

It's genuinely a free jellyfish.

[empty iris]

Wow I'm mega tarded

[eager acorn]

bugged maybe idk

[fast pumice]

It just skips the part of the quest where you're supposed to give him anything and goes straight to the part where you talk to him afterwards.

[eager acorn]

not for me? from what i remembered...

[fast pumice]

Which is why he starts heading back to his default position in Rookie Village ig.

[eager acorn]

been a while since i did fanatic quest

[potent iron]

A life giveth, A life taketh

[empty iris]

Quest must've bugged for me, it told me to put it in a llmc and even when I talked to him it didn't update or anything

[fast pumice]

Your quest shouldn't update, but you do need to find him and take the new dialogue prompt.

[amber spade]

howdy ho stalkers

[fast pumice]

He'll likely be somewhere near Wolf by that point, for some reason he tends to lose his map tag when he's walking back.

[potent iron]

Fanatic once died to the boars some how

[amber spade]

you don't need an LLMC anymore, those were removed in gamma

just show the arti to him

[potent iron]

His body went flying

[amber spade]

once upon a time, i tried to do an ironman run on either stalker gamma or anomaly

[fast pumice]

It shouldn't happen anymore but if he decides to be dumb enough and just stand there without firing it's not impossible.

[night canopy]

I feel like I'm progressing so slowly. All these yt vids I see, they always have full durability guns within like the first 20 min

[amber spade]

i lost the save immediately to them boars

[potent iron]

Idk I'm convinced that everything you play in Gamma is actively being coded by a small drunken slavic man inside your computer while you play.

[fast pumice]

That quest was fucking terrible in base Anomaly.

[potent iron]

How the fuck else can I explain that ALL OF GARBAGE WAS IRRADIATED for me once.

[amber spade]

that is fine actually.

you are still learning and such.

better to take your time and learn than rush everything and be bored by garbage

[potent iron]

Literally every square inch of garbage was radiation.

[fast pumice]

He had absolutely no health so the second anything touched him he died.

[fast pumice]

Dynamic anomalies my beloved.

[night canopy]

It's like I get money and then am forced to spend it all on meds

And then cycle repeats itself

[fast pumice]

As far as I can tell, radiation is treated like an aoe anomaly.

[potent iron]

Wild

[fast pumice]

And can spawn with dynamic anomalies.

[amber spade]

in situations like these, it is better to economize and do quests in bulk, rather than do a singular mission and waste it all on 5k only to meds.

[final blaze]

Protoexo users after stepping into one small pocket of southern radiation:

[potent iron]

Yeah I never experienced such massive radiation over such a huge area before in gamma. In fact I never died to radiation before that.

[tepid glen]

eventually you figure out how to avoid the damage, then you feel good about your self and progress faster

[fast pumice]

Sounds more like Skat users tbh.

Unless someone decided to use Proto Exo while they still have advanced tools.

[amber spade]

assuming you are in the "easiest" dificulty, i would say to do missions only around the surrounding areas.

i.e Cordon and Garbage. Great swamps would be a initial area, but it is an mutant hazard nonstop soo i would say to avoid it

[nova folio]

you know gas masks exist right

[heady steeple]

finally.

moon and sun. by their powers combined I will be sleep deprived.

[amber spade]

i was just about to enter that tangent.

[fast pumice]

The Spartan Helmet/Screen Helmet should render you mostly immune to southern rads by themselves.

Or even the light GP-5.

[night canopy]

Do you guys ever fw the economy settings?

[polar locust]

"Last Dawn" quest: I found scout's pda, delivered it to CS. How long do I have to wait for the rest of the quest to trigger?

[eager acorn]

honestly there should be a arti crafting using both of these

[fast pumice]

Ig if you're using the combat helmets.

[nova folio]

nah, money too plentiful already

[eager acorn]

on to shorten the trader supply time

[amber spade]

i only fw with them on vanilla anomaly. in gamma i just adapt and tussle.

Despite the fact that i am constantly going broke on gamma]

[heady steeple]

what happens if you equip that artefact:

[hollow herald]

In the MCM there is a stealth config. If i increase a value, it means its easier for them to spot me right?

[tepid glen]

gotta hunt lurkers as soon as you got hunting knife for that sweet sweet hide

[heady steeple]

https://tenor.com/bZ6LI.gif

no im not old for knowing sailor moon shut up i'm still young

[fast pumice]

Lurker Hide is nice early on ye.

[eager acorn]

hmm
you become invulnerable to tiredness?

[fast pumice]

Increased Stamina + Carry Weight when you have fuck all.

[heady steeple]

suuuuuuuuure

[eager acorn]

or have spesific buffs depending day or night
but think thats a thing already

[nova folio]

actually i'll put it in my perk rework i think
a perk for equipping both Sun and Moon

[tepid glen]

and like 8% rad res, which in combination with basic respirator is enough for most of early game

[fast pumice]

Just fix a GP-5 as soon as you get basic tools tbh.

You should be able to get one by then.

It's just durable fabric and charcoal shit too.

[amber spade]

@night canopy do quests for random stalkers.

especially those to fetch food, kill stalkers, mutants or rescue someone in your near vicinity.

They usually give statshes cords

[eager acorn]

idk what the buff would be tbh

[late flower]

Hey, I have seen people talk a lot of good shit about mercenary pathfinder and ace suits. Why so? Stats do not look that special

[amber spade]

being decent.

[eager acorn]

i think the belt slots

[night canopy]

I haven't touched it yet on Gamma I was just curious if that would be valid

[fast pumice]

My helmet progression is usually respirator -> GP-5 -> Screen Helmet -> Exo/Apocalypse -> Spartan.

[night canopy]

I'm not gonna change the eco. Imma thug it out

[fast pumice]

20/24% base ballistic resistance and ACE has pretty good anomaly resistances as well as five belt slots and being extremely light.

[nova folio]

haven't decided yet

still trying to figure out how to cap the exo battery recharge on Electron

rn it just charges +100 even over the limit

[fast pumice]

IIRC Ace gets to be like 27% when upgraded.

Before artifacts.

[amber spade]

and could become valid, since you could decrease the general price of everything. to make the experience "easier" you could say

[nova folio]

i think they want to give ACE 6th slot to make it good in next update

[fast pumice]

Probably wouldn't change much because you don't have to buy guns to progress like in Anomaly.

[nova folio]

would probably be worth using over other common heavies

[fast pumice]

It also has extremely high radiation resistance.

It and a screen helmet makes you basically immune to 90% of rads.

[amber spade]

POV: Using the armored Seva on the north bc you cannot find a fuckin' expert tools anywhere, nor can you afford 9 medium armor kits:

[eager acorn]

i lowk hate following meta

[fast pumice]

I mean you can always wear a Skat ig.

[nova folio]

eh i played one of invictus at 70% ballistic resist with just a medium duty seva
never even bothered with experts

[late flower]

Same here, but no point taking a pose when those are already in my hoard

[nova folio]

5 slots all you need in 0.9.4

[eager acorn]

i like doing the faction armour only rule tbh

[nova folio]

its a fun rule, i hope exchange gets expanded

[fast pumice]

What about factionless?

[eager acorn]

cant wear

[cloud canopy]

When is the laucher going to be fixed?

[nova folio]

when do you think?

[amber spade]

lethaer jacket and hybrid armor only?

Sheeet, better just go around cosplaying mono with only the x18 suit

[fast pumice]

Grok said a week.

No new announcements since.

[amber spade]

wait until may 8th to be sure.

[nova folio]

you have overcoats which are quite strong too

[fast pumice]

Never understood the fanfare for the Hybrid personally.

[tepid glen]

i love me my arty slots, hence why i like it orange

[late flower]

Got a hybrid as well, but dont really see the appeal

[amber spade]

seva but beefy

[nova folio]

high physical resist with 5 slots

[fast pumice]

Yeah but it's like a worse Pathfinder.

[amber spade]

the faction specific ones grant different small bonuses, no?

[tepid glen]

isg seva is disgusting

[fast pumice]

I like it, it's funny.

Out of all the camo styles the UN could've chosen it was that one.

[nova folio]

same physical, different minor bonuses

worse? no

[cerulean quail]

So whats the problem with 8.4?

[fast pumice]

ModDB changed shit.

[amber spade]

seems like jsut a tad bit inferior then.

Considering the weight and the eletrical res and flame res.

otherwise it is very simmular

[foggy glade]

Whats the best armor for stealth?

[fast pumice]

Carry weight overwrites the additional weight.

[amber spade]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-roberto-stabbing-billy-west-philip-j-fry-gif-4051060

[nova folio]

weight is the same
electrical res is a dump stat
flame is arguably not a factor

[amber spade]

the hybrid weights 18 kg while the pathfinde weights 10

[nova folio]

cuz theres artefact that caps your fire resist all by itself

[foggy glade]

Flame and elec resist are only useful for anomalies

[tepid glen]

ghillies apparently has small buff to stealth, havent messed with it much

[nova folio]

...and now look at how much weight carried bonus it gives and actually read the card

[dreamy copper]

ghillie suit if we're gonna be "achtually" but stealth isnt really that much of a thing in this game

[foggy glade]

I just need to be able to larp stealth enough for it to feel like its working

[dreamy copper]

good luck with that

[paper arch]

ghillie suit but it's so minor that it may as well do nothing

[amber spade]

you could use disguises... go around like spy and shank people

[foggy glade]

I did consider that, up until monolith

[nova folio]

if you figure out a way to make stealth work in STALKER let everyone know we'd love that

[dreamy copper]

[paper arch]

pls don't summon the dumbass

[nova folio]

they kind of made it work in XrMPE which is surprising to me, i haven't seen any actual working implementation outside of it

[foggy glade]

As far as i've learned, use range as a crutch and move around constantly 😭

idk if its cause im good at stealth or lucky but it works like 40% of the time

[paper arch]

yep, that's basically it
the only "stealth" in gamma is peaking out from behind a hill, killing one guy with a headshot and then running away

[nova folio]

oh lmao i didn't even read any of the messages i have that moron blocked since forever

im not one of the weirdos who reads blocked people's messages

[foggy glade]

Its at least a little comforting to know I've already figured out how to "master" stealth

[tepid glen]

im sure he is only pretending to be dumbass

[eager acorn]

blocked
still read the messages
people r weird

[paper arch]

I'm honestly not sure

[merry citrus]

2 more questions

1. I set up most of the stashes in Farm in Cordon. I heard Rostok could be a good place for a base so i'd like an opinion whether i should try to move everything there or just leave it in Farm and slowly build up stashes in Rostok?

2. are there any guns i should strictly avoid or are all guns viable for the most part?

thank you! 🙂

[paper arch]

he's committed if nothing else

[tepid glen]

freedomers got blackjack and hookers. much better than rostok

[paper arch]

duty got the blue oyster

[nova folio]

1. can just grab everything and fast travel; surprising noone there is 2 Fast Travel options, 2nd allows you to fast travel while encumbered and noone knows about it despite it being in front of your face

2. all guns viable

[dusk chasm]

some guns have same parts

[eager acorn]

id recommend moving the stash somewhere more northern
and yes almost all guns are decent

you can make work of anything tbh

[paper arch]

avoid guns you can't get ammo for
that's about it
maybe .338 Federal guns? they kinda suck

[eager acorn]

*kinda good

[paper arch]

[foggy glade]

I was about to say but didnt want to get clowned on, literally like 95% of the guns work, .338 is just overkill and ammo is annoying to get

[nova folio]

.338 federal are good for Sin and helmetless people

but one part of players dont aim for the head and other haven't learned to check for head protection yet

[fast pumice]

Why the fuck can the DVL use a March-F?

[lament vortex]

Is there a way to edit recoil stats on individual guns?

[merry citrus]

yeah i mostly just avoid anything higher ranked than A cause i can't really repair/maintain it properly. Is .357 ammo hard to come by? I just found the MP-412 Rex

[paper arch]

or just yknow
use a gun that can kill everything

[eager acorn]

cause its d tier
itd be dumb if it doesn't

[foggy glade]

I think debug mode

[paper arch]

338 fed guns deserve C tier imo

[lofty ridge]

I pike to go for pp19 or ppsh in the early. Easy to come across and fix up

[eager acorn]

starter gun

[fast pumice]

5.45/5.56 FMJ tends to kill them fast enough lmao.

[tepid glen]

one of the more abundant ways to deal with mutants. buy ammo from butcher

[paper arch]

there's absolutely no reason you'd use one over a generic 7,62x51 D kit gun

[nova folio]

"oh no i dont like using 5.45 or 5.56 i want something unique"
"my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery"

[drowsy knot]

The humble sinner in a Voyjdanov Super heavy exoskeleton would like to have a word with you

[fast pumice]

A true unicorn there.

[foggy glade]

I just use shotguns for mutants and 5.56 for stalkers

[eager acorn]

ts is why m1014 is the best gun in gamma

[paper arch]

I never asked for anything unique
even if I did, we're talking about overall effectiveness, which the 338 fed guns simply don't have

[nova folio]

i was making fun of people who don't want to use guns that kill everything

[paper arch]

fair

[eager acorn]

M1014 my beloved

[fast pumice]

"I'm going to carry a Mauser this run."

[eager acorn]

i actually havent seen my beloved in so long

[paper arch]

do you sleep with the thing too?
I feel like you mention it everytime I see you

[elfin kiln]

[slender niche]

338 is pretty goated for mutant hunting
I use it whenever I fancy eating helicopter rotors

[eager acorn]

if i can own it irl i would

[drowsy knot]

...you shoot at helicopters with it?

[fast pumice]

Hunting helicopters tends to be a larger isolated instance.

[paper arch]

HELICOPTERS
now THAT is a use case I can get behind

[eager acorn]

also you technically sleep with a fucking full on exoskeleton in gamma

[slender niche]

Haven't tried it actually I was just being funny

[fast pumice]

I mean they ironically don't have armour.

[nova folio]

yea
helicopters dont have armor

[tepid glen]

helicopters dont have armor

[foggy glade]

Wait so whats the deal with unisg?

[drowsy knot]

That is absolutely fucking retarded and i want a mod that gives them armor

[paper arch]

I will have to try that now

[slender niche]

But it's probably the best use case it has cuz helicopters are mutants

[nova folio]

Actual Clowns From a Kids Birthday Party Camo

[fast pumice]

Private UN investigators that don't like being seen.

[brazen plover]

nuh uh

[slender niche]

Lmfao

[slender niche]

Bro's been shooting at em with AP I bet

[drowsy knot]

Super immersion breaking

[fast pumice]

"Yes, I will shoot this helicopter with 300 rounds." Quotes from the utterly insane.

[placid wraith]

Finally saved up 500 AP rounds. God i hope this is enough to clear the scorcher...

[slender niche]

Aim for them heads, good hunting

[fast pumice]

That seems like overkill.

[nova folio]

sure, if you figure out how to hook up Grok ballistic to mi24

[drowsy knot]

if you're good you only need 60 rounds

[paper arch]

probably yeah
with mutants, it just loses out to saigas and 23x75
but with helis, you can't hit those with a shotgun
so we finally have an actual use case where the 338 federal is THE best ammo/gun to use

[brazen plover]

BS is legit ZZZ

its the MM that fucks me up

[tepid glen]

first helicopter i shot down i had 12g toz. was very surprised it worked, but god damn it was annoying me

[fast pumice]

I'm curious how many rounds it takes.

[drowsy knot]

If helicopters are mutants that shouldnt be so hard, ballistic resistance is the way to go

[placid wraith]

Every time I do MM or BS I always undershot how much ammo I needed and regretted it.

[fast pumice]

Might start taking one for Skyfall.

[slender niche]

If you like the sniper playstyle better than the shotgun it works there too. I know some people just LOVE bolt actions even if I can't get behind the feeling

[paper arch]

shouldnt be so hard
classic beginner modder blunder

[pine night]

the fuck did i just witness

[slender niche]

D type automatics are just too good

[formal sierra]

that's how an AA gun works

[nova folio]

Duty's getting desperate with recruits

[drowsy knot]

I made an old mod from anomaly in 2020 work with gamma today

am top 10 modders now

[tall pumice]

is there any info about what addons would be added/removed in 0.9.5?

[amber spade]

" these are the new recruits?"

"i... alright i guess, we recruiting mutants now"

[eager acorn]

my mentality everytime but i never do it

[foggy glade]

True

[fast pumice]

Except you're not an AA gun, you're a guy with an AK.

[formal sierra]

become CIWS

[fast pumice]

AA guns have flak, you just have boolet.

[paper arch]

I have those banned on my next playthrough so...

[fast pumice]

[late flower]

Alright, suit upgrades complete. Now to fuse me some artefacts

[foggy glade]

Anybody can be an AA gun if you have spare arms, I imagine the amount of recoil would snap your arms off

[slender niche]

They discovered livestock

[fast pumice]

Why the fuck is .338 Federal tagged as AP?

[eager acorn]

rule 11
cant run

[paper arch]

rule 67
can't shit

[slender niche]

Rule 12: must play on dx8

[cerulean quail]

can somebody point me where the fps saving faq is?

[eager acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-67-67-meme-61-6-gif-3253142972322718307

[quasi sierra]

Because it was weaker lapua before

[fast pumice]

Rule 13: No anti-rads/radioprotectant

[nova folio]

like how bad is it
is dx11 runs at least at 40

[quasi sierra]

Or stronger lapua if you play anomaly with bas

[brazen plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939910362021634078/1496203471332835558/HFSRZ0eaQAEBgSu.png?ex=69f2ead1&is=69f19951&hm=e6f4f2d0b9e81eba2e59037ec3ad7584efed0e98ebc80d07f43480a2489c8ebc&

[fast pumice]

Lmao.

[visual spruce]

I think I need help with that "collection_default" shit

[slender niche]

338 hp still two taps mfs to the head right?

[foggy glade]

I didnt know they had american bandits

[cerulean quail]

meh
i run a gtx970 i get 40fps
i understand it sience its under the recomended specs
i just wanna dissabel some atmospheric mods so i can get more fps

[slender niche]

Federal I mean

[eager acorn]

#╰⚡fps-optimisation or if dx11 try #╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

[brazen plover]

thats Strelok

[nova folio]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message

try disabling atmospherics as last resort

[cerulean quail]

thanks

[quasi sierra]

#🔨base-gamma-support message

[foggy glade]

Mb it looked like the bandit overcoat

[quasi sierra]

Another one

[eager acorn]

i love not reading

[slender niche]

Become ungovernable or something

[cerulean quail]

it is

[visual spruce]

atmos crashes game

[nova folio]

no you still have a whole guide to go through

[cerulean quail]

did most of it

[eager acorn]

alr time to go listen to an hour playlist while my phone charges

[cerulean quail]

i bet it will still have good grapchis
and wont brake the game

[dreamy copper]

the new teletubby suit

[eager acorn]

did you do #╟🔰☢newbies-chat message?

i might be blind idk

[cerulean quail]

im doing it now

[visual spruce]

do you know why atmos crashes

[nova folio]

#🖥️how-to-install #💽how-to-update probably

[visual spruce]

no I mean the mod itself

[nova folio]

why did they nuke the rupture resist 🥀🥀 that was the whole appeal of that suit

[amber spade]

https://tenor.com/view/suika-ibuki-touhou-drunk-picmix-suika-gif-9523620473063145067

[dreamy copper]

light armor and 6 slots tho

[nova folio]

what?

[visual spruce]

Im trying to play anomaly wiht like 25 mods and atmos crashes the game

[nova folio]

ask in anomaly? this is GAMMA server
or ask Atmos?

[placid wraith]

I got a wierd issue. My Warsaw pact guys sell a wide variety of mags. My Nato guys don't. Both max rep. Waited a couple days on both.

[amber spade]

uhh...

!mags perharps?

[placid wraith]

!mags

[hearty saffron]

@placid wraith
How to enable magazines in GAMMA: #╭📖faq message

Do NOT use 207- Mags Redux or Mags Buyable at Traders!

[placid wraith]

Nothing. Damn.

[dreamy copper]

lol

open debug, aim at the vendor that doesnt sell mags

and force refresh trader inventory

[quasi sierra]

Mags

[dreamy copper]

yes mags

[placid wraith]

I'll try this when I'm home. Thank you.

[amber spade]

when i handed the gauss to rouge, what should've done next to progress the questline?

[dreamy copper]

talk to him again

do the 2nd dialogue option like "Tell me about yourself" and the "im ready" stuff will appear

[amber spade]

oh right. thanks

[amber spade]

should i expect the gaunlet of CoP or prepare for something else?

since if i recall correctly, we are going thru jupiter underground, no?

[slender niche]

Its a watered down jupiter underground section

[amber spade]

so... no sudden platoon of snorks coming to feast upon me, right?

[dreamy copper]

debatable

[slender niche]

They're predictable

[quasi sierra]

[slender niche]

They spawn in the same spots always

[unique heath]

even without story mode, snorks can be up in numbers in jupiter underground

[heady steeple]

oh yeah.

[quasi sierra]

They are scripted spawn

[heady steeple]

now we're cookin with gas.

[amber spade]

one time in garbage, i was jumped by a chimera 3 lurkers and a dog... let us say that the dutyer on the hangar had a big day out

[quasi sierra]

Like mutants in labs

[slender niche]

[heady steeple]

oh wait I can put a suppressor on it

[fast pumice]

I just realized there's no Nagant Revolver.

[heady steeple]

oh yeah

[fast pumice]

Can the RSH be suppressed?

[amber spade]

technally no, since it is an revolver. but if it works like the nagant revolver does.

[fast pumice]

Huh.

[unique heath]

hmmm. why does saving in soulslike mode crashing to desktop

[fast pumice]

Apparently it can.

[amber spade]

then yes.

Since it has no cylinder gap.

[fast pumice]

Funny.

[slender niche]

#🔨base-gamma-support lmfao

[quasi sierra]

#🔨base-gamma-support message again

[fast pumice]

Oh hey, base gamma support is open again.

[heady steeple]

how about this :)

thermal revolver

[willow portal]

loool imagine not being to play gamma

[fast pumice]

Wristbreaker 9000.

[willow portal]

i can still play gamma cuz im on a old ass update

[quasi sierra]

@quaint edge

[unique heath]

man ive spent the past hour crashing with soulslike. :/

[willow portal]

imaginee playing new gamma slop

[drowsy knot]

12.7x55 doesnt break wrists

[quasi sierra]

• modded in base support

[elfin kiln]

[drowsy knot]

Recoil is comparable to .308

[fast pumice]

Fair.

It's a round I'm not familiar with.

More familiar with 12.7×108mm.

With firearms like the KSvK.

[amber spade]

i would imagine that firing a .308 round from a stockless gun would be rough neithertheless.

[fast pumice]

Lemme one-hand my hunting rifle.

[late flower]

Damn, those high tier artefacts got hands. Now to counterbalance the bleed control and negative health regen somehow without sacrificing the benefits

[hardy osprey]

:(

[amber spade]

stoneblood and chimera pelt

[willow portal]

ive said it multiple times and ill say it again
NEW GAMMA IS SLOP

OLD GAMMA IS GOLD

[amber spade]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-25649629

[hardy osprey]

my old server nickname was “120 GB max free space” which i changed it to that after i realized i no longer had enough space to install gamma

[willow portal]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-gif-9478804723063988099

[drowsy knot]

Not great not terrible, but nothing compared to 4 gauge

[elfin kiln]

[amber spade]

soo ks23m recoil then?

since it is 4 gauge shotgun.

[nova folio]

can't you just revert full empty to Empty
that solves half your issue

[hardy osprey]

i feel like nowadays its just getting bigger for the sake of getting bigger, it is getting better too but it feels like the size isnt worth it

i used to be able to play, just on low settings, now all i get to do is watch

[late flower]

Oh right I forgot I am allowed to jsut carry multiple of the same artefacts

[dreamy copper]

if you want to make the most out of them you have to kinda deal with the downsides of some. the end results is still insane. you mainly use the ballistic res artifacts to raise your cap, not for the raw stats

[late flower]

Good point

[mint holly]

normalize monolith drive bys

[dreamy copper]

such as a random ass teletubby 90% capped build i threw together on tubby suit. your downsides will be mainly electrical and carry weight/rad res (can be negated with a good helmet) but the benefit is pretty much taking no limb damage or damage by bullets

[shy nebula]

Do armor plate ever works because stat wise and experience wise it's worth shit for me

[dreamy copper]

they work but they arent good besides just the ballistic res %

BR class fails past southern parts of the zone regardless

[nova folio]

dont use em until 0.9.5 god awful attachment

[eager acorn]

would it be a bad idea to make certain armours have like, less affective for certain arti stats

[tepid glen]

even with BR rework in 9.5?

[dreamy copper]

no

since BR class will provide a basic reduction for penned shots aswell, but ballistic res% stacking will still be superrior

however BR class is quite useful in 0.9.5

[shy nebula]

Would it be too much to ask for actual armor plates that stops bullet and breaks like irl

[nova folio]

ah, a mags enjoyer

[dreamy copper]

plates in 0.9.5, aswell as pseudogiant pelt, boar pelt gives BR class and br class damage reduction

and some artis also gives class damage reduction, so you will be able to get quite tanky with some armors if you stack BR class

[merry citrus]

Do suppressors have durability? (sorry if i'm asking so much it's just my first proper playthrough)

[unique heath]

used to be a mod that had that.

[shy nebula]

Meanwhile mutants are susceptible to HP ammo lmao

[dreamy copper]

no

[merry citrus]

ok ty

[quasi sierra]

Now to wait for phyla to post in base again

[nova folio]

just kidding
But sounds like just tedium

there was a mod that did that but it dont work with GAMMA
there's a person that fixed that mod for themselves to do that but he just keeps it for himself lol

[brazen pecan]

guys, do people use alife plus and siski, im thinking of installing alife plus but have heard siski is good

[dreamy copper]

didnt siski get nuked

[nova folio]

its on github

[quick apex]

Is the game download still down

[tepid glen]

drama nuked

[dreamy copper]

rightfully so. dysfunctional vibecoded ChatGPT mod

[tepid glen]

entire highschool fell on it

[dreamy copper]

i would just stick with alife plus, that shit actually works

and is save compatible

[nova folio]

dont look at alife plus code lmao
they both equally dogshit vibecoded

i would know i vibecode with ai

[unique heath]

alife plus barely has performance issues

[dreamy copper]

then alife plus author must have used the superior vibecode

and i doubt grok would have added it to gamma 0.9.5 if it was vibecoded

[unique heath]

the only performance issues it causes are additional entities your PC has to register, but thats no different than default anomaly setting changes

[brazen pecan]

Ive never used it so gonna install it now then 🙂

[shy nebula]

I mean I don't ask much for stalker game since it was never about milsim but just having that delicious armor insert animations and actual armor plate being doodoo water is disappointing

[night canopy]

Hey I just wanted to thank you all for being so kind and helpful towards each other. You guys have been a big help and I definitely wouldn't be able to figure parts of this game out without your support👍

[quick apex]

Is the game download still down

[dreamy copper]

it doesnt increase entities, it just assigns dynamic events and attributes squads to those events

[nova folio]

#📢announcements

[eager acorn]

#🖥️how-to-install i dont know

[merry citrus]

+1. Really helpful community 🙂

[quick apex]

Thank you

[dreamy copper]

unless you're on like a 4 GB RAM limit, alife plus doesnt seem to affect performance whatsoever

[eager acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-skeleton-shield-skeleton-meme-war-gif-17340534991599908951

[late flower]

close enuff

[dreamy copper]

look how tiny the mp7 became. cute

[brazen pecan]

nah ive got a nasa pc

[dreamy copper]

you're still losing health

infact i believe you might be losing 15% per minute

[eager acorn]

let bro be suicdal

[late flower]

Armor has a built 4 wound healing

[dreamy copper]

4 wound healing isnt health resto

wound healing is like the worst possible armor upgrade in the game

[late flower]

Well isnt that lame

[lime pawn]

The fact that the MP7 fits in the melee slot but not the Vector or MP9 baffles me

[nova folio]

wound healing is bleed reduction
-60 to be precise (tier 1 artefact does -600)

[quasi sierra]

Mp7 is anti human only

[dreamy copper]

because of their ability to use hollow points. we already have insanely strong automatic pistols for those purposes, groks philosophy is to not have smgs that can be dual purposes to fit in there

[placid wraith]

Wish some of these pelts didn't feel grossly strong. Then again I also avoid using artifacts and perkifacts too.

[cold spruce]

how does the mirage quest work

[dreamy copper]

!storyline 2nd link

[hearty saffron]

@cold spruce #│📚manual message
📚 Storyline Progression Guide™
📚 [Guides for iTheon Tasks (Dead Night, Baba Yaga etc.)](#╟🔰☢newbies-chat message)

[late flower]

yeap that shit just kills me

[tepid glen]

yeah... honestly there should be pelt only slot and pelts should get nerfed hard

[dreamy copper]

if you wanna stack things like goldfish, full empty, you would need a heart of oasis