cause he played in the US
#🏖good-vibes
pseudo terrace
then in UK you shouldn't have any issue unless the game is televised there
dim cove
for the Indiana Hoosiers
pulsar heron
then in UK you shouldn't have any issue unless the game is televised there
not much is televised here
pseudo terrace
I know you usually can't watch a game on LP if it's being shown on television
pulsar heron
infact i don't watch TV
proper edge
this a W pfp?
dim cove
then in UK you shouldn't have any issue unless the game is televised there
That...
makes sense now
pseudo terrace
not much is televised here
so something is
pulsar heron
btw how tall are y'all
proper edge
im 5'9 i think
dim cove
It explains why I was able to buy a tv package from Arenasport
hollow glade
btw how tall are y'all
5’9
dim cove
to watch the nba
pseudo terrace
makes sense now
watchu mean?
pulsar heron
i'm 5'9
pseudo terrace
oooh, all of hte games?
hollow glade
this a W pfp?
No, but this is
pseudo terrace
I know I got LP to watch the BUlls before I had free cable, and I was angry that I couldn't watch games that were televised
even though Ih ad no cable at the time
proper edge
dam we all 5'9 lol
dim cove
dam we all 5'9 lol
I'm 7'0
hollow glade
La games are just blocked out for me on league pass so i have to get cable 😔
hollow glade
yeah what age
15
pseudo terrace
La games are just blocked out for me on league pass so i have to get cable 😔
sling tV?
pulsar heron
i haven't seen my height change
dim cove
you never know
pulsar heron
im 18 5'9 i know i aint reaching 6 foot
which country
dim cove
growth spurts happen
dim cove
I didn't really stop growing until I was 20
hollow glade
sling tV?
Nah too expensive ig but my mom is thinking about switching to directv stream which has spectrum sports net
dim cove
I was at like 6'8 when I was 18 but I grew to 7'0 when I notched my 20th birthday
dim cove
a growth spurt if I ever heard of one
pseudo terrace
Nah too expensive ig but my mom is thinking about switching to directv stream wh...
how much are paying now?
proper edge
i need to get fit so i can then learn how to ball cause im a big boy and i im not tall so i wont be able to play C in the park
dim cove
You 5'9 lol
hollow glade
how much are paying now?
Nothing, we don’t have cable
dim cove
you'd be a guard at best
proper edge
yeah i know lol
but i never played basketball like irl before so it will take ages to learn
pulsar heron
but i never played basketball like irl before so it will take ages to learn
i did
i started at 14
13*
proper edge
ive always played fifa and football since im from uk
pulsar heron
i left rugby to do basketball
pulsar heron
ive always played fifa and football since im from uk
i never loved soccer
dim cove
cause that's what I've always been a huge fan of
sour wigeon
Didn’t 2k use to have a prelude and a demo l
proper edge
yea
hollow glade
For one of my electives someones gonna coach me how to get better 1 on 1 so i can play better when i move to public school in my junior year
sour wigeon
Why did they stop
proper edge
i hope i can learn basketball easy and fast since i am 18 and my time has gone
sour wigeon
Well you’re probably not going into the NBA but u have a lot of time to learn to be good at pickup
keen condor
I was at like 6'8 when I was 18 but I grew to 7'0 when I notched my 20th birthda...
7 foot is crazy
proper edge
Well you’re probably not going into the NBA but u have a lot of time to learn to...
nah ion want to lol
dim cove
7 foot is crazy
It has its downsides
proper edge
i just want to learn how to play and then find a court or park and just play
dim cove
doorways and public transport are your worst enemy
proper edge
cause there is a park like 4 mins away from me so i can pump my ball up and get shoes and just practise
proper edge
what shoes yall reccomend for beginners
hollow glade
what shoes yall reccomend for beginners
Idk i really like my jordan 11’s
Just regular shoes tho work fine
hollow glade
Me who wore Shaq's Magic days shoes
I saw those in store once and they looked so cool
I really want to get cool shoes but im still growing
pulsar heron
Me who wore Shaq's Magic days shoes
i got made fun of in UK school for wearing shaq basketball shoe in P.E.
hollow glade
I made fun of their height by easily scoring over them
Lucky
dim cove
My shoes had S H A Q written on the top with a silhouette of Shaq dunking for the A
dim cove
I don't know where those shoes are anymore lol, I last wore them in the last year of high school
pseudo terrace
Nothing, we don’t have cable
oooh I see what you meant, my bad
how much can y'all afford tho?
I dunno how much Direct TV is but Sling TV is a cheaper option. You can also use VPN with League Pass if you want
nova jay
hi 
i just got my guy to 99 OVR by playing MyCareer and now im just looking for people to chill with and play online together, im playin a 7'1 Defensive Anchor mixture of The Big Man and The 100 
hmu
- on xbox next gen europe server (dunno if take makes any diff)
pulsar heron
hi <:NBA2K23_1:992660872545718323><:NBA2K23_2:992660885489332305><:NBA2K23_3:992...
@nova jay 1v1 me on roblox basketball
nova jay
<@930534373990760479> 1v1 me on roblox basketball
roblox hoops looks advance af, dunno if i can manage
pulsar heron
roblox hoops looks advance af, dunno if i can manage
if you ever play nba2k
then you would know how to shoot in roblox
most nba2k players that went to basketball games on roblox just hit a green
nova jay
i only block and get assist with my dude, sometimes i doonn
dim cove
They do but you better be hella good
Cause your height leaves you at a massive disadvantage
pulsar heron
They do but you better be hella good
like kyrie and allen iverson
combined
and add a little steph curry in there
for a 5'9 player
pseudo terrace
Cause your height leaves you at a massive disadvantage
does it though?
pseudo terrace
exactly!
dim cove
I am sorry but you are not Tyrone "Muggsy" Bogues
pseudo terrace
negative nancy
dim cove
negative nancy
positive pete
pulsar heron
I am sorry but you are not Tyrone "Muggsy" Bogues
how much you betting that you can dunk on prime shaq
dim cove
how much you betting that you can dunk on prime shaq
I weigh my chances 30/70
pseudo terrace
positive pete
yes I am ty
proper edge
proper edge
Idk i really like my jordan 11’s
nah but i wanna like practise with hoop shoes or something
cinder oriole
zenith condor
Actually it was one of these
Shaq’ll stomp a mud hole in a mf with these…
dim cove
Shaq’ll stomp a mud hole in a mf with these…
hell yeah
zenith condor
Imagine guarding Shaq in the paint & he steps on your pinky toe wearing these cement shoes… fold like Dudley 🫨
🎣
silver jasper
pseudo terrace
zenith condor
https://tenor.com/view/lakers-shaq-posterized-nate-robinson-spurs-gif-17204670
Wasn’t this the Admiral’s MVP SZN?
onyx rain
Wasn’t this the Admiral’s MVP SZN?
Yea he was
pseudo terrace
Wasn’t this the Admiral’s MVP SZN?
no idea, I wasn't watching nba at the time
hollow glade
Wasn’t this the Admiral’s MVP SZN?
No, drob won it in 95, when shaq was on the magic
rancid pelican
More lies
zenith condor
You’re right! That was the year of the infamous beef. I swore it was over the race for MVP 🤔
dim cove
Uh oh, that won't end well
barren depot
✌️
pseudo terrace
I’m outside
yay you're finally touching grass
hazy scroll
just saw builds are still 100 dollars to max
onyx rain
Oh y’all poor things
craggy tide
😂
onyx rain
Yo how it going
brazen wigeon
I’m outside
I'm also outside, what's your point
solid widget
does Ronnie2k own this server or likee
honest temple
does Ronnie2k own this server or likee
No
rustic hill
Does anyone know any good signature size ups apart from steve Francis
torpid dragonBOT
full fjord
onyx rain
Does anyone know any good signature size ups apart from steve Francis
Maybe Kobe
Or Lebron
proper edge
🤔
Ngl i hate the teammate grade out
Its abit sped
how am i supposed to defend a 7 ft mf rim runnin on a 6’2 guard
silver condor
jh
frosty oak
proper edge
What de
Huh?
Wdym my current gen or xbox
Were u talking to me or not
Hey dudes
What's the dealio
Wanna play dollies
I'm a Barbie girl
In a Barbie world
Life in plastic
It's fantastic
You can brush my hair
And dress me everywhere
Imagination
Life is your creation
Sorry
onyx rain
Lebron no, 💀
Why not?
onyx rain
my glorious king lebonbon
For sure
onyx rain
But it’s can be overpowering
small cave
opal cypress
Hello
torpid yacht
Never in my life have I played a game that crashes so much on PC
old sinew
Thank you 2K for cross play
proper edge
What’s 2k?
green basin
honest temple
dim cove
Ngl i hate the teammate grade out
I'm glad that's not on current gen
lmao
you can only get removed if you foul out
not grade out
obtuse river
😈
dim cove
The devil will find work for idle hands to do
pseudo terrace
you can get graded out ?
frigid oracle
man i just found out i won the lego 2k drive thing, 3 months later....
brazen wigeon
man i just found out i won the lego 2k drive thing, 3 months later....
There was a competition?
frigid oracle
no it was the giveaway they did when it released in the discord
dim cove
you can get graded out ?
Yeah on next gen
pseudo terrace
Yeah on next gen
I've never had that happen
dim cove
But you would have to like get a D-/F grade to get fouled out
Which is very rare
It was added in as a griefing countermeasure so people can't just grief you like say in the rec with off screen half court fouls
Among other things
brazen wigeon
I feel like 2k should implement something to help with ball hogs
Not sure what, but something
pseudo terrace
oh online
pseudo terrace
I feel like 2k should implement something to help with ball hogs
Not sure what, ...
Copium?
proper edge
Looking forward to the game in less than 3 weeks.
Anyone seen this new Air movie about MJ as a rookie signing with Nike?
smoky fjord
No
proper edge
Saw it just hit Prime video, might try to watch it some night this week.
brazen wigeon
Anyone seen this new Air movie about MJ as a rookie signing with Nike?
I wanted to see it, never got the chance though
pseudo terrace
eh, what's there to watch?
brazen wigeon
eh, what's there to watch?
Football
proper edge
Oh yeah?
brazen wigeon
Here we go
brazen wigeon
but MJ and Nike are about basketball
I know, but you never said what movies there were to watch
brazen wigeon
You just asked what is available to watch
pseudo terrace
I know, but you never said what movies there were to watch
I was asking about that particular one. Why watch MJ and Nike working together when we got the gist of it?
I didn't ask that, bad wording
brazen wigeon
Because not everyone knows the story
That's why there's so many movies about historical events
pseudo terrace
The Last Dance
brazen wigeon
To tell the full story
torpid dragonBOT
proper edge
😎
The Last Dance was great; glad they made that.
@everyone look at this address pull up 19711 wenwood circle AL
brazen wigeon
Why?
pseudo terrace
man, 2k teammate grading system is such trash
odd briar
!!!
pseudo terrace
I can get 6 steals, 40 points with no miss, 12 3s, and 20 rebounds int eh fourth quarter, and all that'll do is raise my grade by half if I'm lucky. Whereas, two fouls or a foul and turnover, and I'm penalized half a grade. Garbage
proper edge
@everyone look at this address pull up 19711 wenwood circle AL
Nah I’m good
brazen wigeon
What's so special about that address?
proper edge
He’s trying to dox someone I bet.
oblique mural
I can get 6 steals, 40 points with no miss, 12 3s, and 20 rebounds int eh fourth...
Rec or my career?
pseudo terrace
MyCareer
onyx rain
Getting a A+ is pretty easy
pseudo terrace
I mean you still prolly got a A+ grade right if not then that's just bad
yeah but there's no reason for my grade to ever be below A+
proven pendant
Hi
worn iron
yo them rival quests on mycareer mad annoying 😭
proper edge
Yo
gritty sierra
Lol y’all better start shot creating 😂😏
brazen wigeon
Why?
proper edge
😔
gritty sierra
Why?
Lol if you know how broken shot creating takeover and sharp take this year
You would under stand
proper edge
🤔
brazen wigeon
Lol if you know how broken shot creating takeover and sharp take this year
I literally use both perfectly fine lol
gritty sierra
Why?
Yea but the buff it for next year
But most people use shot creating to just fade
I use shot take with a big and I’m scoring 20 a game
It to OP
gritty sierra
24 and the changes that adding
They added a buff to midrange
Like step back, post fade, post hop step and more
The “problem is” that it already overpowered in 23
oblique mural
They didn't say post fade
gritty sierra
Whole up let me check again
Your right
I have a feeling they might buff post shots
oblique mural
Yea but who knows we'll see when the game comes out
oblique mural
I have a feeling they might buff post shots
Yea I agree
gritty sierra
It really not hard to use
gritty sierra
And OP
Like shot creating take and rim take or shot and sharp
For a big
To lethal
oblique mural
The thing that's crazy is that you can have a tall build with a high driving dunk but doesn't unlock slashing takeover but in 24 u can just put on whatever takeover u want
So it will be op
gritty sierra
I don’t think the “6’9” meta build was a problem or me
Like they were so easy to guard sometime
Especially in rec
gritty sierra
The thing that's crazy is that you can have a tall build with a high driving dun...
Ik for sure the “comp” player aren’t gonna to like the game
onyx rain
So it will be op
So having not so high badges you’ll still be fine.
gritty sierra
Yes
onyx rain
Which will nice for pro builds
gritty sierra
Pro am?
onyx rain
No like pro pro builds
gritty sierra
What do you mean by pro pro
onyx rain
Because pros can’t use Hall of Fame
gritty sierra
Huh
onyx rain
Not pro am. Pro 2k builds
gritty sierra
Oh
onyx rain
I remember that from a video bear made
gritty sierra
Well what your play style
gritty sierra
What position you think are better at
onyx rain
Power forward and center
gritty sierra
Ok so the basic approach
onyx rain
Yea Can’t really play anything else
gritty sierra
Get like a Kevin Garnett build but add a little bit of shooting to your build
oblique mural
I be making bigs smalls and mediums every year
gritty sierra
Once you get tired of that try use post move like shooting post fade or use hop jumper
It throw off your defender completely
Also remember that dunking is getting worse this year
proper edge
Nope
brazen wigeon
No
hard nicheBOT
limpid bane
proper edge
Good night
hard nicheBOT
proper edge
Nah cus 2k needs to bring back court conquer
torpid dragonBOT
proper edge
Yo anyone tryna help me or just play 2's?
tranquil drum
If i buy 2k24 for the ps4
then i get a ps5
will my progress on the ps4 transfer on the ps5?
somber temple
Hi
somber temple
Hi
hard nicheBOT
proper edge
anyone tryna play?
dim cove
I'm playing the game called being awake in the morning
shrewd copper
Chominjis name is migail
pulsar cloak
damn playing my career in nba 2k15 in 2023 still works 😄
torpid dragonBOT
orchid temple
Hi ytgih
proper edge
once 24 comes out should i refund 23 so i can get more vc??? dm me if i should because i can't be fricked scrolling all the way back up here tmr
upbeat light
What team will win it all this coming season?
azure sable
yo how do i use the suggestion bot for #📬game-suggestions
brazen wigeon
You have to reach the baller rank to do so
lyric ether
Hi
novel dagger
Bye
dim cove
nobody
reef lily
hi
onyx rain
damn playing my career in nba 2k15 in 2023 still works 😄
Oh nice
fervent wagon
Wassup anyone wanna play rec in 2k22 on pc?
onyx rain
Bro I don’t have a pc
pseudo terrace
will my progress on the ps4 transfer on the ps5?
I don't know if this is still true for 2K24, but only MyTeam transfers. Otherwise as they said, nothing else does.
dim cove
@frosty oak let's talk here so we don't have to wait 5 minutes for that slowmode timer
I very much doubt they'll prevent 5 man squads from going into rec against 5 randoms matched together, that would cause ridiculous queue times for those playing in the squad
oblique mural
True
opaque sage
Part of the problem pro-am, from what I've heard, for years is that the matchmaking takes longer the better your rank and record. I'm hoping cross-play helps that
Hopefully it helps rec too. Sometimes it feels like the first game of solo or duo queue is mostly random but if you stay in matchmaking after you get an increased chance of playing a 5 man team.
muted forge
hi everyone i just got the server
oblique mural
hi everyone i just got the server
hi
dim cove
Part of the problem pro-am, from what I've heard, for years is that the matchmak...
I can confirm that
Sometimes the matchmaking
makes ZERO sense either
Such as
When me and a few friends of mine started our pro am team
we had no matches played
and our first opponent was a team with a 100 games played
muted forge
does anyone know were i can find people to play with in like the nehboor hood because im not that good?
onyx rain
I very much doubt they'll prevent 5 man squads from going into rec against 5 ran...
Yea kind of impossible if they change something 1st
dim cove
Yea kind of impossible if they change something 1st
Seriously, squads would take like 10-15 mins
just to get matched with another squad
onyx rain
Yea I remember that
torpid dragonBOT
proper edge
😎
hard nicheBOT
proper edge
Good morning y’all 🌞
lavish willow
my opponents
frosty oak
I very much doubt they'll prevent 5 man squads from going into rec against 5 ran...
True. Just wishful thinking, I guess lol 😔
tiny bramble
Anyone wanna run ps current gen
onyx rain
my opponents
How?
onyx rain
Oh okay
agile bronze
I need two for 3v3 pro am who to to grind some levels
tacit pasture
Wsg ppl
dim cove
2k is the only game where I'd be fine with a strict anti cheat that scans your files to prevent you injecting code into it
It would kill out people using sliders scripts and hacks to give themselves spaghetti arms
wooden nymph
yo
small cave
muted forge
anyone wanna play nba 2k with me?
dim cove
Do you know what's the hilarious part too?
These hackers and cheaters literally have to PAY to use their hacks and cheats
even for a day
onyx rain
Lol that’s funny
muted forge
yall wanna play with me im a bit newer to game tho. i just cant post rn for a nother 3 hours and no ones responding to me?
dim cove
gets blocked anyways
onyx rain
Yea true
onyx rain
Hi
torpid dragonBOT
hoary zealot
yo what build are u guys planning to make for nba 2k24 just curious
brazen wigeon
Probably my usual sharpshooting 6'3 pg
hoary zealot
nice
dim cove
I'll make my defensive anchor
smoky fjord
And idk
onyx rain
yo what build are u guys planning to make for nba 2k24 just curious
Dennis Rodman
With shooting maybe
smoky fjord
They call me the green machine so what ever I make I will green with 100% of the time
onyx rain
Nice
opaque sage
With shooting maybe
I did that in 23. It's pretty fun. People online don't expect you to rebound and stop them near the paint
dim cove
They call me the green machine so what ever I make I will green with 100% of the...
Until you don't
opaque sage
I'll probably do my same build I've liked for the last few years. It was a Multi-Postion Defender back in 21 but now it's a 2-Way Shooter/3&D Wing. Usually a SF but probably moving to SG so I'll have to make adjustments
smoky fjord
Until you don't
They call me the green machine for a reason 😂
I don’t know anything about builds so I wouldn’t know
zenith condor
I don’t see why people tripping on investing more money into a product or service you use everyday. I don’t want to hear games used to cost less. So did phones, food, gas and everything else. How much you spend on the new drop on SNKRS? If money is what you serve, then invest the same amount of money you spend on VC into 2K’s stock and you will shift your perspective very quickly. Otherwise, how do you expect the game’s technology to continuously improve without all of our investments?
dim cove
I don’t see why people tripping on investing more money into a product or servic...
What is this exactly about?
Cause your argument is rather flawed right from the outset
The problem is the prices are being inflated artificially in terms of food gas etc
Prices are rising without a backing or reasoning for that
onyx rain
I did that in 23. It's pretty fun. People online don't expect you to rebound and...
Yea it is fun
pseudo terrace
Prices are rising without a backing or reasoning for that
there is a backing/reasoning - companies want more money
opaque sage
Well it's not 2k on the stock market, it's Take-Two Interactive (ttwo). It's at like $140 right now with the release coming up (do trending upwards). I'm not seeing dividend history so might have to plan to sell it high a year from now
hollow glade
Don’t hate 2k
Hate Take Two
opaque sage
I agree on R&D but the issue for players is bit different. It's a game using monetization usually seen in free titles. It's a signal of how big the game is. Essentially there's a $70 product with at least 2 modes that need full teams working them through the year to provide updates. Years ago some of those people might've worked contracts and rolled off projects or to different companies post release
pseudo terrace
I'm hating whoever makes the game worse every year
zenith condor
Every year people complain about servers or gameplay. Every year the technology has improved. That is the reasoning behind the cost. Consoles cost more. Because they are far more advanced.
How much do you think ProPlay costs? Mo-Cap? How much do you think it actually costs to make the game? Not counting salaries on payroll… you call it a $70 game but i bet you would call that a low ball evaluation if you had worked on the product. The entitlement generation wants a hot meal for $1 without lifting a finger then complains about the quality of the food 😂
opaque sage
I think you trailed a bit from your argument. Consoles are usually sold at a loss with subs and games recouping the costs. Games used to cost more than $70 before the crash but that was a long time ago
zenith condor
My point: if you want a premium product or service prepare to pay a premium price.
hollow glade
https://tenor.com/view/rpx_syria-mic-drop-gif-19149907
No don’t do that
zenith condor
Otherwise go eat a happy meal
opaque sage
My point: if you want a premium product or service prepare to pay a premium pric...
If they are offering a premium product they could also offer it at the premium price. There could be an edition of the game at $250-300 that includes all the additional passes. Instead it works on FOMO
rustic hill
Anyone got any good builds for me that can shoot defend dunk and ok speed
dim cove
How much do you think ProPlay costs? Mo-Cap? How much do you think it actually c...
Simply false
How come Baldur's Gate 3 is 60$ with everything the game gets you?
With NO microtransactions, NO dlc and NO drm.
opaque sage
Balduars Gate was also early access for 2 or 3 years. Essentially it's been on sale at full price for multiple years
dim cove
It was
But it's also the most played game on steam by a mile
and that's not even counting consoles
Even as an early access game it still gave you more than everyone else under early access did
so why weren't they charging under a premium price if that's the logic we're going with?
opaque sage
I mean it's a different business model. I'd be fine with Sports games doing a base game with a cost to do a roster patch across multiple years
Similar to MMOs I guess
I don't play a lot of MMOs. Just MMO-lites like Destiny
oblique mural
Why is bol bols jumpshot so trash on 2k
dim cove
Why is bol bols jumpshot so trash on 2k
Cause 2k sucks at making accurate jumpshots
it also applies to Quentin Grimes
Dude's jumpshot irl and his jumpshot ingame
nowhere near the same
oblique mural
Cause 2k sucks at making accurate jumpshots
Fr idk how 2k messed up people's jumpshots so badly
dim cove
much good that mocap recreation did them
zenith condor
It appears as though the companies take a totally completely different approach. For example, Walmart has items on clearance. Zappos doesn’t. How come Zappos made more profit than it ever has selling less units once it removed clearance/ sales from its site?
Best customer strategy
dim cove
Zappos readjusting their stock to acquire less to compensate for the lack of need to sell things on sale does not mean they made a profit
zenith condor
Offer a premium product for a premium price. Get rid of bargain hunters and people who scam or return items after wearing it once. This approach baffled me at first until I researched it a bit more and experienced the benefits first hand as an employee who received a raised and better health benefits.
dim cove
like do you even realize what clearance is?
It's literally just getting rid of old stock to bring new stock in
dim cove
Zappos ceo who died 3 years ago almost
zenith condor
Amazon bought the company for 1.2 billion and this was his approach to business lol
No wonder 2K is leaning towards it
dim cove
Do you know what happened to his money?
His friends and family abused him for as much cash they could get from him until he kicked the bucket to a drug-related cause
zenith condor
I was working there when he took the funds from the acquisition and he blessed his employees.
flat gull
Yo I’m try to go on a streak or just level up on the 3s who tryna play I’m a small guard
zenith condor
So again, if you were a shareholder my guess is your perspective would shift. Which means you possess unbalanced thinking lol
dim cove
if you don't like playing dungeons and dragons in the form of an RPG
then baldur's gate 3 won't really appeal to you
But the game is definitely worth the praise
I sure hope borderlands 4 isn't anything like 3
utterly bland and tasteless
zenith condor
Why do some people choose to pay more for a Starbucks coffee over a cheaper cup from somewhere else?
opaque sage
Depends on the funding. Do we know if Wizards of the Coasts funded the development? Technically it's based on D&D rulesets
dim cove
No
Baldur's Gate 3
received 0
funding
they had to BUY the wizards of the coast licensing rights
to even make the game
zenith condor
Wonder how much that costs…
flat gull
Yo I’m try to go on a streak or just level up on the 3s who tryna play I’m a small guard
dim cove
They take 50% of the proceeds, from what I'm aware
zenith condor
My guess is If we’re to ever see a Baldur’s Gate 24 they’ll probably have to start including micro-transactions. What will you think of their game then???
dim cove
You don't understand Larian
if you think that's what they're going to do
They're a company that RISKED getting shut down as a business
to stay true to their values
zenith condor
Are they a nonprofit?
zenith condor
Then you don’t understand
dim cove
They don't NEED to rely on microtransactions that scum like 2K and so many others do
opaque sage
It's a CRPG. DLC is already a norm for those games from my understanding
dim cove
Well they don't have any
zenith condor
Your claims are wild and I can’t really debate someone who grasps at air.
dim cove
Your claims are wild and I can’t really debate someone who grasps at air.
Google it
It's literally a well known fact that Larian almost got shut down twice
because they didn't want to be corrupt aholes
zenith condor
Google what? How Tony Hseih’s family treated him?
You’re proving my point. They won’t make it to 24th gen
dim cove
If they continue making games like BG3
They will
And they'll stay true to their morals while at it
Because newsflash
they're outselling almost everyone else
with this game
zenith condor
Where do you get off calling people you never met and don’t even know a corrupt *******?
dim cove
They already sold 5.2 MILLION copies
opaque sage
From the same perspective of licensing I also don't know how much 2k pays the NBA for licensing. I assume the NBA and NFL also have some wants or mandates for continued licensing
dim cove
^
They defo do
It's why 2K and EA for a while went for each other's throats
securing exclusive rights to produce NBA and Madden respectively
zenith condor
I’m convinced that people who share your mentality kill businesses/products/services/video games.
dim cove
Good for you
I'll enjoy fruits of passion like Baldur's Gate 3 while you waste your paychecks on microtransactions
zenith condor
I hope they never listen to your opinion on anything related to their product/service/business
For their sake
dim cove
Them listening to me and a load of other people's feedback got them to 5.2 million sales
So you can stop coping now
zenith condor
And almost shut down TWICE lol
opaque sage
Why do some people choose to pay more for a Starbucks coffee over a cheaper cup ...
Starbucks processing makes stronger coffee, people can be creatures of habit, people like to work in coffee shops with others there, and sometimes people like to get something because of brand
dim cove
oh did I also mention 5.2 million is just on STEAM alone?
zenith condor
ChatGPT for the W
dim cove
and not consoles?
zenith condor
Contrast comparison… what are 2K’s numbers?
dim cove
Console versions of BG3 will be released in september so you can expect their sales to go even higher
opaque sage
Baldaurs Gate 3's sales probably don't get too close to how much 2k makes on each game year over year. I don't think it's trying to compete with that though
zenith condor
Does BG3 have a discord? 😏
dim cove
As if a discord server that the staff is barely involved in makes a difference lol
zenith condor
Rhetorical question Farley
hollow glade
Priors will die before he says he does not like 2k 😂
dim cove
^
zenith condor
Whoa… talking about death?
opaque sage
Games competing for the same amount of earnings are doing similar practices. I just don't like some of the practices. Some of them pretty blantently are bad for the consumer. I find dicussion on alternatives interesting.
dim cove
Yeah, I don't like some of the practices either
Having BG3 be a microtransaction free game was a breath of fresh air from a stale market that did nothing but microtransactions, battle passes, all that crap
zenith condor
That’s where I draw the line. Why would I conform to the opinion of others who don’t like the game when I do?
hollow glade
That’s where I draw the line. Why would I conform to the opinion of others who d...
Hey thats fair i was just joking
zenith condor
And I would never wish death on you or speak about you dying in a joking manner.
opaque sage
Console versions of BG3 will be released in september so you can expect their sa...
Xbox one still TBD. Could get a 3rd wind if people are still interested
dim cove
BG3 showed that you can in fact NOT do the scummy practices if you do not want to as long as you deliver on your promises and give people a fun and worthwhile game
zenith condor
It hasn’t shown me anything because I’m not going to play it at all
hollow glade
And I would never wish death on you or speak about you dying in a joking manner.
Bro i aint wishing death on you, it was a joke like when people say “i would die before i ate broccoli”or something, or “i’ll defend this with my life”
zenith condor
It isn’t fun or worthwhile to me. I’m not trying to convince you to change your opinion I’m just saying you’re not changing mine.
dim cove
And that's fair enough
opaque sage
I don't think BG3 really showed anything that new in that way. It's a great game from the looks of it but Larian has pulled it off multiple times. It's not the only game to go against the trend of making the most money while taking up as much time as possible from all the players
It kind of is the latest really good example
dim cove
I don't think BG3 really showed anything that new in that way. It's a great game...
I don't remember the last time a game has done that and struck gold like Larian did
zenith condor
Good one I get it now 😐
What is the silver lining of all these micro transactions. What is the good that comes from it?
Let’s bring balance to this discussion.
dim cove
Most of the time.. There really isn't any
opaque sage
I don't remember the last time a game has done that and struck gold like Larian ...
I thinking more of acclaim from players/media. Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghosts of Tsusima, the last 2 Zeldas, God of War, Elden Ring...
dim cove
Most microtransactions do not validate their cost or are put in place to skip grinding
opaque sage
BG3 did it with seemingly a smaller budget than those
zenith condor
This or That when we live in a world of This AND That
dim cove
People wouldn't be complaining about microtransactions if they weren't blatantly there to just get more money from you for as little benefit to you
zenith condor
What is the good from it? Challenge yourself to see the why behind their decisions.
What if they’re not there for that purpose?
What if you didn’t know it all?
dim cove
I've yet to see that.
dim cove
Games make their money back on sales alone, microtransactions are just extras for them to squeeze more out of you
opaque sage
It's the continue paying the dev teams. Traditionally the publisher is the one that gets the money from sales. Devs don't wait for games to sell to put money on the table. Continued income means teams stay on things for longer.
zenith condor
Then use your two eyes twice as much and two ears twice as much as you use your one mouth.
dim cove
then how does that work for Larian?
zenith condor
Going thru life knowing it all with their eyes closed to half of the picture.
dim cove
They're not over here instantly putting their team to work on something just to pay them
opaque sage
That doesn't change that monetization models aren't sometimes mandated by people other than the devs and also can end up using anti-consumer means
zenith condor
How do you know that?
zenith condor
This guy knows a lot for someone who lacks the experience required to obtain such knowledge
dim cove
Blizzard is a prime example of this
Diablo 4 literally uses a dark pattern to screw you over
their UI has no safeguards against accidental purchases and activations
opaque sage
Some of those things get patented. The patents are public information
opaque sage
I'm agreeing with you. Dark patterns in video games get patented and it's not hard to find out about them
opaque sage
I'd argue the worst was Dungeon Keeper Mobile. Diablos mobile game was pretty bad too
opaque sage
This guy knows a lot for someone who lacks the experience required to obtain suc...
There was a span of few years were a kotaku writer did exposes on a bunch of stuff like this
rancid pelican
zenith condor
Man’s ready fi romp
zenith condor
What’s good @rancid pelican
rancid pelican
What’s good <@218463046492880897>
Just reading this excellent conversation
opaque sage
LA Noire and Anthem had publishers step in and try to assert the need for a deadline
rancid pelican
You guys get it
zenith condor
What’s your take?
rancid pelican
I can tell all the smart people in this discord are online right now
opaque sage
You guys get it
The problem is you have to be ready to keep having these convos. People will continue to be born and the knowledge to at least think through the decision making has to proliferate
zenith condor
You probably tell that to all the other discords
rancid pelican
Take-Two’s executives earn millions in bonuses based on microtransactions - Video Games on Sports Illustrated
https://videogames.si.com/news/take-two-microtransaction-bonuses
The publisher values profit > customer experience
All power to the people 👊🏾
https://tenor.com/view/power-to-the-people-equality-protest-equal-rights-queen-and-slim-gif-14722725
opaque sage
And microtransactions are mostly tied to 2 or 3 modes of a game with about arguably 5
A consideration to split into multiple games with multiple teams could've happened. Instead we have 1 game packed with multiple sections made for multiple types of players
Not saying it's a negative. Just my assessment
zenith condor
We all hate Corporate America until we own / run a corporation and get that exec check 🤷♂️
opaque sage
We all hate Corporate America until we own / run a corporation and get that exec...
Nah still hate/dislike. Part of the competition. Cordial for formal and professional reasons but some still undercut others
zenith condor
What if you were the exec who got the bonus? Would you be in here posting those links?
What would you do with that money? Any good? Any good for others? Or should we all assume you’re a pos?
opaque sage
What if you were the exec who got the bonus? Would you be in here posting those ...
If I was an exec still playing the games I probably wouldn't have time to talk, but that doesn't mean I'd have to like other corporations
opaque sage
What would you do with that money? Any good? Any good for others? Or should we a...
I call myself a loser all the time. It doesn't stop me from functioning as a normal person. This not a line of questioning to get what you want from me. I am not normal in this regard
zenith condor
I’m not trying to get anything from you. Im genuinely interested in what your perspective would be if you were wearing the other shoes. That’s all.
But yeah I can tell you’re not normal
dim cove
Doom MVP with that link lol
zenith condor
Are execs not people?
opaque sage
To take it back to a 2k related topic. I hope pro play is using the 3D camera systems that the teams have been trying to use. It's tech that been out there for some years but mostly for seemed to be related to analytics teams for specific franchises.
If the tech is league wide they should have access to a lot more footage
dim cove
Makes you wonder what they do with those analytics
rancid pelican
Are execs not people?
They’re Lizard 🦎 people
zenith condor
😳
rancid pelican
Makes you wonder what they do with those analytics
Feed them to babies
dim cove
Feed them to babies
Great idea
zenith condor
Thanks bro now they lumped me in with your crazy conspiracy online group. Thanks a lot
dim cove
You're welcome
opaque sage
Are execs not people?
Execs are people, but corporations (if people) are people whose entire survival is based on money. Not food nor shelter and no reason to adhere to morals except when they interfere with it's ethical behavior to stay a part of society and continue to survive
dim cove
But here's the thing here that I feel is not being mentioned
zenith condor
Doesn’t make them less of a “person”
dim cove
bonuses
all those millions from the microtransactions went to THEIR pocket
not into the game
opaque sage
You don't have to hate an exec to disagree with the practices
zenith condor
Yet the next year we see massive improvements in the game… you acting like this man is the exec’s accountant and all the monies flow through his hands.
dim cove
Yet the next year we see massive improvements in the game… you acting like this ...
Do we?
zenith condor
I love when someone tells you where the money went when they have no real clue
dim cove
Yeah we get new stuff but I wouldn't call it massive improvements
zenith condor
YOU wouldn’t.
dim cove
a massive improvement, for example, would be PC getting next gen instead of getting the watered down current gen
opaque sage
Nba2k usually gets solid improvements year to year. With the majority of the game still being playable
zenith condor
ProPlay isn’t a massive improvement
opaque sage
Cross play wasn’t a massive improvement according to everyone?
Nah. Not from a industry perspective. It probably is for the dev/publisher because they are doing it their way. Not paying for someone elses solution like some games did with using Epic
Improvements to the playcalling and lineup logic is also really good to hear
I'm hoping the cross play means better matchmaking throughout the year. Especially pro-am. Maybe eventually rec 5 stacks can get invited to play low level pro-am teams lol (that'd probably be a few years out)
I wonder if 2k had to negotiate their own pricing structure with Sony for crossplay. I know that came out with the Activision merger. Nope it was the Epic vs Apple stuff
zenith condor
Imagine if I came on here and started claiming where you spent your money? Without any actual proof? You would think I’m nutso wouldn’t you? My point is chill with your claims bro you sound like the lead singer of Creed before he begged for his spotlight back.
My internet acting up now why you had to mention the Reptiles????
thick lodge
we need a demo/beta for 2k24
opaque sage
Makes you wonder what they do with those analytics
I've seen a couple of times they used them during games on TV. Looked like partially rendered players on rigs but they could show plays at various angles. I know NBA has stats for shooting that takes into account how close a defender was so it could be good for that too
rancid pelican
we need a demo/beta for 2k24
Bring back the prelude
thick lodge
Bring back the prelude
yeah, same thing
zenith condor
The Men in Black are at my door 🕴️
opaque sage
Imagine if I came on here and started claiming where you spent your money? Witho...
Are you talking about the bonuses? That stuff gets reported. If not outright public it at least gets mentioned to shareholders during annual and quarterly calls. Probably better to know about that stuff anyway. Knowing when to take the stock options vs salary and oher benefits at a startup and things like that
dim cove
The Men in Black are at my door 🕴️
Was nice knowing you man
Say hi to Agent Smith for me
dim cove
I watched the MiB movies lol
zenith condor
Figured you would know him.
peak spruce
Nba2k24
zenith condor
I watched the MiB movies lol
Wrong movie. Smith was in the Matrix series. But you haven’t really said anything that makes sense today. Is it time for your update?
dim cove
That's presuming you're not calling will smith agent smith, even though in the movies they went by initials and will's was j
peak spruce
😎
dim cove
But carry on debating yourself.
zenith condor
I thought we were minding 2K’s business 🤔
When will we get to the deep dive into your business transactions? 🍿
Could be fun 🤩
dim cove
I'm not that crazy to share those
opaque sage
Not living the LLC life? lol
zenith condor
What would people think? Would we think you’re a corrupt lizard???
Make your business public. Power to the people!
rancid pelican
Make your business public. Power to the people!
dim cove
What would people think? Would we think you’re a corrupt lizard???
I am a lizard
I'll admit that
but it's cause I don't feel like sharing that for privacy reasons
zenith condor
As they say in Andromeda, “Do not throw your pearls before lizards.”
pseudo terrace
Bring back the prelude
so lewd
dim cove
Uh oh guys, the intellectual conversations are over
Quick, scatter!
zenith condor
But we should be careful otherwise “they” might start charging micro transactions on their discord or their prelude
opaque sage
Was 2k18 the last game with (the old version of) badge grinding and grand badges?
opaque sage
But we should be careful otherwise “they” might start charging micro transaction...
I mean... Nitro is a subscription...
zenith condor
I agree. Discord could cover the expense and pay for everything while we use it for free. Do you work?
opaque sage
I didn't say the subscription was bad. Am I coming off as all subscriptions and microtransactions are bad?
pseudo terrace
Uh oh guys, the intellectual conversations are over
Egads!
jagged relic
Hello everyone I’m new to the 2k discord community
pseudo terrace
perhaps
autumn matrix
Salute everyone 🫡
autumn matrix
How y'all doing?
torpid dragonBOT
lime shale
wsg everybody
coarse forge
How y'all doing?
I'm bored
lime shale
im in the rec new gen xbox
worthy kindleBOT
steep dirge
Anyone tryna play Xbox current gen
worthy kindleBOT
dim cove
wsg everybody
You get your game yet?
distant slate
Any leagues happening for 2k24?
worthy kindleBOT
topaz jewel
Yo who’s exited for 2k24
fervent wraith
What is the most expensive player y’all have bought in 2k
oblique mural
Bro I'm in the rec rn and all my teammates quit 💀
next lagoon
yo
lime gate
summer knot
if anyone is looking for a teammate in 24 next hmu i had a 70W% all year and am gonna make a big man when the game comes out
barren mountain
glacial osprey
.
muted forge
yo can anyone play with me please?
fervent wraith
Bro I wish I could I’m at work 😂
sterile lance
Dm if you trying to join a 2K sim league
muted forge
anyone wanna play please?
brazen wigeon
Dm if you trying to join a 2K sim league
brazen wigeon
anyone wanna play please?
sterile lance
<#888528029943480330>
Thank you my guy
pseudo terrace
you're welcome
rotund vector
MunchRuntz PS5 ✊🏽
proper edge
Vibes 😎
ornate fox
proper edge
🤔
ornate fox
it was only 3 - 5 minutes
lime shale
You get your game yet?
not yet
slow cobalt
bro what 💀💀
ornate fox
Lmaoooooooo
lofty radish
summer knot
I mean he's employed by 2k I don't see why they wouldn't
torpid dragonBOT
proper edge
take in people are saying "james harden will never get a ring" mf didn't he win an Olympic gold medal
brazen wigeon
take in people are saying "james harden will never get a ring" mf didn't he win ...
Didn't know medals were rings
I feel like it's more like a necklace than a ring
proper edge
Didn't know medals were rings
sorry I meant 2 gold medals
summer knot
I think he is in charge of 2k streams same with stax i believe but don't quote me on that
unique current
Hi
tranquil drum
yo what build are u guys planning to make for nba 2k24 just curious
A 6'8" carmelo build
gusty fjord
hi
oblique mural
I just won a 1v5 in the rec and my ais wre shooting like prime curry
onyx rain
I feel like it's more like a necklace than a ring
It’s a necklace
I would love to see one up close In person
That would be cool
smoky fjord
It’s confirmed I’m the worst madden player of all time
proper edge
👀
smoky fjord
Why would anyone pick madden over 2k 😂
merry mango
ion even gon lie
merry mango
personal preference
proper edge
torpid dragonBOT
fossil rapids
hi
torpid dragonBOT
eager mauve
hi
dark garden
should i get limitless takeoff silver or posterizer silver
hazy scroll
both..?
onyx rain
Yea sure be fun
torpid dragonBOT
lofty ice
myleague looks fire asl
past vector
Who cares about Wnba
why are they showing us wnba shi
Nobody cares about the path in wnba
Nobody will use the W path
desert bone
Jfc no mynba eras on PC again
2k with another L
At least an explanation why pc can’t get eras would be nice
lofty ice
theres no eras on current?
desert bone
theres no eras on current?
Nope
lofty ice
that was 2 days ago lol
they feedin next gen and im not complainin lol
mynba eras isnt graphics
but ig
they could of also done rep system they should add the non graphic things to current
but they just dck suckin next
desert bone
Bro knows nothing about pc
lofty ice
ong lol like $500 dollar pcs r still 3x better than a ps5
opaque sage
eras does include some graphical changes iirc. There's the different scoreboards and filters over the gameplay. It should be a larger set of rosters as well. Since it includes multiple versions of teams throughout history and draft classes
lofty ice
i meant current
ohh u a gs fan
makes sense
they think everyone got money to cop a next gen console lol
opaque sage
Personally I don't think of it as they give the older version less features. They work on the older and newer versions kind of in parallel. Most of the new changes go to the newer version and the older one get quality of life changes (hopefully)
lofty ice
Personally I don't think of it as they give the older version less features. The...
its kinda obv that theyve given like 5x the features to next than current
where u at ?
in the us its 450 for a ps5 and like 300 for an xbox series s
desert bone
If i ran 2k, eras would be on pc
lofty ice
check the s
desert bone
And there would be at least 2 new classic teams each game
lofty ice
the xbox series s is also next gen
opaque sage
its kinda obv that theyve given like 5x the features to next than current
Right. I just made the distinction because it could come off as one game is made and they remove the features for the older version of the game. The older versions just get less updates and support
lofty ice
yeah
opaque sage
Or shilling
What I said is shilling? It's why I stopped buying certain games when I was on Xbox360 until I could get an XboxOne. I knew certain games just weren't going to be the version with most of the features.
desert bone
I said ur either coping like crazy or shilling
lofty ice
its kinda funny they be doin current gen so bad
fathom fossil
desert bone
Either way, 2k has no defense or excuse for this
fathom fossil
🤣🤣🤣
desert bone
Unless they give us a legit explanation why pc can’t get something simple as eras
opaque sage
I said ur either coping like crazy or shilling
No. I was just explaining how I think through it. Not excusing or defending anything.
lofty ice
ronnie isnt even a developer
desert bone
Right, what can we expect from guys that can’t even put out new classic teams
lofty ice
hes the main social media guy
desert bone
Tbf ronnie is just a pr guy
lofty ice
no hes not
desert bone
It’s the developers and the project management guys that we should blame
lofty ice
☠️☠️
desert bone
No. I was just explaining how I think through it. Not excusing or defending anyt...
Well ur thinking is deeply flawed and does not provide a good reason why pc shouldnt get eras
opaque sage
Well ur thinking is deeply flawed and does not provide a good reason why pc shou...
I wasn't talking about that. I think PC is capable of running Eras
desert bone
Like whoever is in charge of planning and developing each installment of the games is the problem
opaque sage
I was talking about how Eras does have graphics which I don't know if they'd put that much into the older consoles. PCs could handle it fine
desert bone
How tf do u not add new classic teams each year
opaque sage
That's execs not managers
desert bone
Their player licensing shenanigans is bs too
They make that stuff back on myteam in a day
desert bone
Fr too many shills
lofty ice
blud works at 711
😭😭
did u do it
respext it ngl
respect
but u rly cant defend 2k for these things
desert bone
If i ran 2k, pc would have an anticheat and would get mynba eras, barkley and reggie miller would be in the game, and we would get at least 2 or 3 new classic teams every year
lofty ice
theres no good excuse to this
onyx rain
What hands ?
lofty ice
😂😂
pseudo terrace
should be averaging at least 80 with that build
lofty ice
they inflated vc so hard in the past 2 years
it was $50 in 21 and now its $100
and $70 for the game
and now $10-20 for the szn pass
pseudo terrace
that's what I"m talking about
lofty ice
its ez w 8 min quarteds
quarters
the game should be free
the game should be free w how much theybtaxin
i mean i got a vc plug so im chillin
but for other ppl its kinda unfair
and the fact they upped the price so fast
true linden
Guys
U just bought 2k23 i want to have good team in myteam
How to get money
Why
I already have 7 hours
true linden
8 euros
lofty ice
wtv not tht bad
true linden
Yeah it was cheap
So i bought it to have fun at game a lil bcs all cards are 99
Is anthony edwards 99 good?
I just want to build team of my fav players irl so
lofty ice
Is anthony edwards 99 good?
hes ight
true linden
Thanks bro
lofty ice
and yao
true linden
Thanks bro frrr
lofty ice
cuz height is everything in myteam lol
lofty ice
i think endgame filter but idk i stopped playing
true linden
Ight
full fjord
2k I said I want a 70s era
mint heron
Yea
Theres not gonna be an era older than magic bird
Yea
And how are they gonna get all the random players on the old rosters
cedar epoch
Damn
karmic marlin
Hi
glass panther
What up lilcoolj
full fjord
When do we get to see the soundtrack?
fathom barn
Hi
crude pier
Does anyone know when the League Pass Pre-Order deal ends?
pseudo terrace
I think when the pre--order ends? The website should say
brazen wigeon
When do we get to see the soundtrack?
When the game comes out
full fjord
When the game comes out
Boo l
full fjord
I think when the pre--order ends? The website should say
For those that don’t know, I don’t know either
brazen wigeon
I don't think they release it before
vagrant sigil
Haven’t heard anything about them adding the in season tournament
sour wigeon
I don’t think they did