Agent Smith

[mint loom]

Grinded is a strong word

Took 2 seconds tbh

[cyan vessel]

true...it isnt hard to go though the pass

[cedar root]

are there any good smith combos?

[topaz trench]

someone know about an agent smith discord?

[hidden whale]

said so cuz i thought it would trigger someone lol

[uneven dock]

Ah my boy sebi ngl be hella cooking with agent Smith might just be the goat

[faint zinc]

i can send it to you

[nova plover]

could you send it to me to?

[topaz trench]

thanks!

[wooden stag]

Anyone know if hand cannon is any good?

Like how big is the sweet spot

[cedar root]

i love it

the hand cannon, the sweet spot is decently big and its really good for killing if used right

[civic juniper]

I honestly forget sometimes that Smith's gun is point blank

[cedar root]

can you send it to me too

[civic juniper]

And not an actual gun bullet projectile

[cedar root]

ive gotten used to it lol

[hasty timber]

I guess smith is my main now, I'm not as good with him but he has an addictive playstyle

[strong mica]

I’ve been interested in trying out Agent Smith for a long time. Tried him in training and really liked his playstyle. Any tips I should know before buying him?

[hasty timber]

I started in training mode too, but beware, many combos you think that work might not work online

Also, he's very read-based so you gotta be patient to get kills

[river urchin]

Are you messing up the up air combos?

That’s the only difference I can feel, timing felt different

[strong mica]

What should I be doing in neutral with Smith? I just lost 3-0 (not stocks, matches, were pretty close) to a Taz and I always felt like I was doing something wrong.

[stark anvil]

That's because they kinda gutted his aerial combos in the recent patch. People cried and assumed his combos were infinites (where have I heard that one before, I'm sorry to all LeBron mains) and the devs hit him kinda hard.

[strong mica]

Just like Void said in his recent video. I just hope ranked can help with balancing a little more cuz its not fun to release a character only for a bunch of people to whine and completely gut what was fun abt them.

[mint loom]

I hate all these losers that cry about any character on release

[main eagle]

Any tips on dealing with Jack? I feel like he just outranges me and combos my ass

It is new so my struggles may just be inexperience

[languid iris]

spam dodge honestly even in burnout

[main eagle]

A good player would be able to exploit that easily

Luckily for me most Jacks aren't that great yet but the ones that are give me insane trouble

[languid iris]

harley is so braindead

spam dodge

[tame condor]

Hopefuly I'm doing something wrong. Jab>>Uppercut>>Jump>>Dair>>Neutral Air Special feels pretty bad now after the delay they added to Neutral Air Special

[tame condor]

I would greatly appreciate a link too if possible ❤️

[hasty timber]

Do y'all edge guard with smith ? I feel like it's a high risk high reward situation, bc his down B and down air are good AF for that but his actual recovery is kinda bad

[hazy flare]

yes

[hasty timber]

I got 3 stocked by a harley, I'd be sad if I didn't reverse 3 stocked a bugs bunny, surviving at 143% right after

[mint loom]

Aghhhh noo I forgot they took away spoon emote 😭🫡

[hasty timber]

Wdym ? It's buyable

[mint loom]

I mean as like the salt emote

Free yk

[mint loom]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-voorhees-multiversus-octopox-lock-in-agent-smith-gif-8320350899436986929

[tulip fox]

his recovery is better than most

you can stall with side or down b, plus up b always exists

[hasty timber]

His up B is basically begging to get hit

[strong mica]

What’s a good combo for Smith? I always try jab jab up tilt but its dodgeable to idk.

[lime vale]

Well to combo into uptilt it's Jab Uptilt

[strong mica]

Oh ok. Anything else I should know?

[lime vale]

Uhhh I'm still trying to properly do combos.

[strong mica]

Oh aight.

[hasty timber]

Aerial down special into neutral special or down air

[hasty timber]

Man, I love how I can be losing with this character and think "I just need to hit like 2 or 3 more jabs for them to get to 70%, which is kill percentage"

The agent spawn has gotta be one of the best kill confirms, it doesn't work on EVERYONE but it's still useful AF and only has a small amount of cooldown

[mint loom]

I feel like the agent should be a bit faster tho idk

Cause its very easy to just avoid the agent entirely

[hasty timber]

Also even if the agent whiffs if the person tries to jump over they still risk falling right into the uppercut I'm charging, AND EVEN IF THEY DON'T I can use the fact I'm on the air do use aerial down special on them (in case they're in the ledge)

[hasty timber]

I'm playing against idiots then bc most people fall for it, only sometimes they avoid it, and even then one of the situations above happen

Either way I only kill with uppercut reads, agent uppercuts and gun dive at the ledge, sometimes ledge trapping but it's rare

[strong mica]

Shouldnt the agent mostly be used as bait to get your opponent to jump? Ive barely been able to hit that move but I always end up baiting my opponent into jumping into my uppercut.

[lime vale]

I've actually landed the agent several times

[hasty timber]

Same

[hasty timber]

I just versed a tom and jerry, do y'all consider him a bad matchup for smith ? Bc I had a lot of trouble but IDK if it's just a skill issue

[mint loom]

I feel like every mage is a bad mu for smith lol cause theres so much stuff everywhere on the screen even with his gun I feel like he cant deal with it as well as others since hes got no projectiles

Every mage except velma

Velma always sucks

Sorry velma

[tulip fox]

tom is absolutely obnoxious against smith

gun does nothing against jerry so you just get bodied if tom wants to

[brittle vector]

can we get Agent Smith's black shoes from the movie on all his skins? who wears a black suit with brown shoes anyway?

[nova plover]

sweet spots are only there when you have ammo

[hasty timber]

Damn I just got destroyed by another smith

[cedar root]

You can also do it at the ledge and a lot of ppl fall for it or jump into it

[cedar root]

How

His up special he can be hit out of (which sucks) and a lot of his moves are slow

[tulip fox]

idk maybe my standards for good recovery are just low

but you can stall in the air for a good while and spam sair from the ledge

[cedar root]

Ig so, but if you’re off the ledge they can just spam down attack and the only counter is sair but it’s still hard to hit

Especially against a T&J or shaggy

[spark wing]

What are good attacks from neutral for Smith?

His range aside from his bullet attacks seem super short

[hasty timber]

Aerial down special, side special and jab

You gotta time those though

[nova plover]

I swear to god someone asked about hand_cannons sweetspots and then deleted their message

I’m not crazy guys

[hasty timber]

Bro thinks he's butcher from the boys 💀

Bro samurai jack has gotta be one of the worse matchups against smith

[nova plover]

eh it’s not horrible

at least not as bad as tnj or Morty

but Jack does kinda just out speed smith

[hasty timber]

That jab is a thing of nightmares

[hazy flare]

I really need that 1 frame of Smith's jab back

I keep getting ground bounces but I can't jab them and every other move is too slow to combo from it

[hasty timber]

I've beaten a good tnj before with some effort, but ever since the jacks learned about jab and edge guarding I haven't won since

[stark bramble]

Who's the best agent smith?

[stark bramble]

Not enough oi

[brittle vector]

it was me

if there's a sweetspot, I can't tell

[nova plover]

it’s at the very tip of the bullet

there’s a small effect showing where it is

I could see how you could miss that tho

[brittle vector]

i'm in training mode and I still don't see it

the pistol doesn't feel noticeably stronger either

[hasty timber]

Oi PFG, samuroi jock done jabbed my smith to the ledge, and edge trapped me until I bloody died, fockin diabolicol

[stark bramble]

Starlight: https://tenor.com/view/bogdanov-bogdanoff-igor-bogdanoff-grichka-bogdanoff-gif-12078177

Doesn't work well without embed gifs 🤔
Anyways add butcher to multiversus

[hasty timber]

Butcher would unironically be fun AF

A better choice than homelander which would basically be superman 2

Like, he could use his crowbar, guns, laser eyes (temp V), he could call the boys™ to help, like starlight with a stun ray, kimiko with a grab, frenchie with a chemical, hughie with that one electric cable from the first episode, maybe even maeve, soldier boy or A train

[stark bramble]

Yeah I don't see much of a moveset with homelander
Butcher could have a crazy aggressive playstyle with tons of fun tools

[stark bramble]

He could also have a strong sacrifice playstyle to fit the character, like sacrificing health for temp V or other things (don't wanna spoil the show if anyone hasn't finished it yet)

[hasty timber]

Yeah, he could also have the [REDACTED] from the last season

[stark bramble]

Maybe even at the exchange of [REDACTED]
||Like maybe giving some form of "control" away to match what happens in the show||

[hasty timber]

Either way a heavy bruiser with some mage-like tools would rock

[stark bramble]

For real

[hasty timber]

Well, now that's number 2 on my wishlist

[stark bramble]

Who's number 1?

[hasty timber]

Woody woodpecker

[stark bramble]

Good pick

[hasty timber]

Thanks

[hasty timber]

I've finally beaten a samurai jack, two in fact

Hate that matchup

Three now, I guess I just needed to edge guard better....?

[zenith basin]

Probably

Jack has pretty bad recovery, aside from his side b

He struggles with being off stage but also excels off stage

He's weird like that

[ripe veldt]

Do yall know anything besides running?

[hazy flare]

We're just all training for some 5k out here, nothing wrong with running

[hasty timber]

I'd say he excels at ledge trapping while on stage

[mint loom]

Doesnt it kill jerry

Like 1 shot or am I wrong

Might be all 3 idk

[hasty timber]

Nah, jerry needs like 3 shots

[midnight plover]

can someone tell me good agent smith combos

[tulip fox]

does the hand cannon dmg increase with 3 ammo vs 2 ammo?

[strong mica]

I didn’t like the Hand Canon perk. Idk if it’s the best perk or something but I like having extra momentum with my side and down air special

[lime vale]

I mean there is always the Hold Perk or 5%

[mint loom]

Hold perk is kinda good to me ik not many ppl use it but it makes the agent a much more viable move cause yk guaranteed hit, im not very good at smith so often I'll miss after normal agent

[lime vale]

It's a timing thing really

[hidden whale]

why does it feel so slow and bad to play smith now

forgive my ignorance

[mint loom]

It kinda does imo feel a little worse

Idk if its just cause I suck

Maybe smith mains dont feel it like I do

[brittle vector]

Smith has a lot of recovery compared to the top tiers

[hidden whale]

i played him a lot

300 wins

now he feels super janky

[brittle vector]

neutral pistol is his best attack and it still gets outranged by most moves

[hazy flare]

Smith still feels good imo it's just going to be an adjustment not jabbing after every ground bounce

Not having a great way to get back on stage really hurts though

[hasty timber]

Tbh I used the freze agent once but I feel like the normal agent is way better for confirms

[hasty timber]

Bro how tall is agent smith ? Idk how wonder woman can low profile his bullets, isn't she like 2 meters tall ?

[flint grail]

Just broke into top 300

[hasty timber]

Congrats man, I'm still in the golden purgatory lol

The only reason I got out of gold IV was bc people kept jumping out of the stage

[thin phoenix]

Agent Smith mains i love u all just want to say that

[hasty timber]

Thank you

[thin phoenix]

U guys play an actual balanced character

That takes skill

[hasty timber]

As someone who once played black adam, those words really mean a lot to me

[river urchin]

Finally got to Diamond. Top 5 Smith in 2s

Switching from Handcannon to 5% actually helped a lot

[thin phoenix]

Why

[river urchin]

The extra stray bullets result in you hitting people a lot more often

The extra reach is pretty important

Especially when Jacks are fishing for focused side special

[tame condor]

Combo noob here. Why am I unable to land the supposed true combo of: Jab, up tilt, dair, uair, fair? They break out before I can land the uair most of the time. Is there any trick to the timing?

[wicked imp]

I don’t know about that combo, but the typical combo is more like jab -> utilt -> dair -> gunshot down -> dodge jab and then repeat

At lower percents, dair doesn’t send high enough to connect into uair at all

[wicked imp]

But I know the specifically nerfed this confirm, so you might have to replace the gunshot down with sair instead

Haven’t tested it myself tho

[nova plover]

no you gonna get a ground bounce with dair for it to work which only happens at certain percents

you don’t need to replace it with sair but you could if you wanted to

[thin phoenix]

Samurai Jack mains holding the urge to spam the same move the entire game over and over and over... again

[nova plover]

i think your in the wrong channel

[thin phoenix]

I know where am i

Really well

[modern salmon]

This channel is for making for of agent smith GET OUT

[thin phoenix]

Make me

[tame condor]

Gotcha. Ty for the info!!

[hasty timber]

I FINALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO PLAY NEUTRAL AGAINST LEBRON

Just dash attack lol, it was so simple yet I only discovered it now

[mint loom]

Fr

[uncut forge]

What up fellow Agent Smith Mains.

[mint loom]

His name is john matrix

[hasty timber]

A harley just fell into 3 consecutive up tilts in the ledge 💀

[hasty timber]

Bro is it just me or is taz annoying AF ? It's basically impossible to hit him without the gun, and the gun takes days to fire now so he ends up always hitting you

[zenith basin]

Taz mains will say you suck

[hasty timber]

Playing a balanced character truly is a struggle in this game

Haven't been able to get out of gold 3, every time I'm near gold 2 suddenly all of the players from gold 1 decide to jump my ahh till I almost get back to gold 4

[zenith basin]

Fr the beta characters are actually playing a different game

They're so fast and have practically no endlag

It's ridiculous

Joker too, he was clearly just never released during the beta

[hasty timber]

Tbh most of the characters are 50/50 in my eyes

But then if someone is slightly better with them or a character has slightly more range it's an uphill battle

I still see jack's leg in my nighmares

[zenith basin]

His leg looks so funny

Skinny ass leg with a big ass foot

[hasty timber]

That kimono that looks like a dress too

[zenith basin]

It's not a kimono

It's a gi

[hasty timber]

Sorry, I get those mixed up

Even tho I practice martial arts myself

[zenith basin]

They're the same thing nobody tell him

[hasty timber]

https://tenor.com/pt-BR/view/pomni-the-amazing-digital-circus-meme-gif-15771456934904245960

[main eagle]

hit #41 with Smith in 1s

[mint loom]

I hit 15k with smith

We are not the same

[main eagle]

the smith army only grows stronger

[uncut forge]

Anyone else got the Matrix Skin for their Smith

[river urchin]

Yup

[uncut forge]

I got it already but when S2 began did they extend the time to get it? Or it just sits in the event tab. I rushed it thinking the end of S1 would be it.

Also sucks that clones now disappear when running towards the edge of a map. I used to make them turn around at opponents tricking them into a uppercut

[mint loom]

Lmskqhssnsbsjdh

Why'd u remind me

I only did like 22 bosses so missed out

Sucks but idk

I just hope we get a lot more smith skins

Anyone got ideas on what some skins should be?

[jagged crypt]

How did agent smith get a hot fix nerf patch like day 3 and Jack didn’t

[spark wing]

cuz they announced they would only be doing mid season patches after that

[hasty timber]

Tbh I prefer the terminator skin

[uncut forge]

I'm so close to getting that! It looks amazing

[uncut forge]

Sorry!

[hasty timber]

I had to wait weeks to get that with the pass, bc I refuse to use "real" money on this game so I used xbox rewards lol

[thin phoenix]

Terminator skin?

[hasty timber]

Thankfully those character packs give you like 1k gleamium for only 20 BRL

[hasty timber]

Yeah, the one where he has half of his face as a machine

[thin phoenix]

How do u get it?

[uncut forge]

I just need 300 left. I haven't spent a dime as well

[hasty timber]

It was once exclusive to a pack but now it's buyable, I believe it's 800 gleamium

[uncut forge]

Yup!

[thin phoenix]

Oh okamsmsksksksksmsmksmss

Oksksksksskskkss

Okok9mokkokokom

Tha ks

Tba 👌

[hasty timber]

I'm still saving money for the spoon taunt tho lol

[thin phoenix]

How much is it

[hasty timber]

800 too

[uncut forge]

1000

It's a legendary

[hasty timber]

Imma be honest I think he should have more skins, maybe a robocop one

To continue the theme

Maybe a neo skin, the flowing robes would be sick

[uncut forge]

I was thinking Neo would be his own character. But not against having a skin

[hasty timber]

Maybe a morpheus skin then ?

Or... hear me out, the lady in red

[rapid cairn]

Captain mifune 💯

[civic juniper]

It feels unfair to not have all three of the protagonists in

[mint loom]

lolll joking nothing I can do abt it now

[mint loom]

neo has to be a character

cant have smith without neo

[uncut forge]

Morpheus with his sword and pistol combo

[tame condor]

The lack of Trinity love here is disheartening

[tame condor]

Feels like a dumb question but does anyone have any advice for landing Down Air Specials quickly? I see some Smiths do it so fast and effortlessly, mine always end up too high

[uncut forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-the-matrix-reloaded-morpheus-gif-21366721

[river urchin]

I finally hit #1 Smith in Doubles

My work here is complete

[uncut forge]

I'm stuck on silver 5 lol.

[wicked imp]

Doubles is rough if you don’t have a dedicated partner

[river urchin]

Very true

[flint grail]

So how do we feel about the fact that we can do nothing to finn

That is the one character that infuriates me in this game because we have nothing to deal with him

Most of his attacks are immune to the grab, he low-profiles half of our normals and all of our specials

and the devs are too afraid to nerf him

[mint loom]

They'll nerf him next patch trust

With all the complaints

[bold steeple]

also a finn was ranked 1 last time i checked ranked

[mint loom]

Yeah the #1 ranked player itw is a finn

[uncut forge]

Bring back smith clone wall bounce!

[river urchin]

Real

[uncut forge]

I have a habit of looking towards the wall. I'm like "ah shoot forgot..."

At least make the clone pop up from the other side if he has time left

[strong mica]

Aerial down special and hope for the best. I do that when I get stuck in “that one Finn combo” (everyone knows what I’m talking about, right?) and it usually works out. Though I might be lucky enough to face bad Finn mains for that to even work in the first place.

[flint grail]

The 0td isn't even the worst part since you can get out of it decently easy just by dodging out

It's the rest of his kit

[flint grail]

they should ban them permanently for their crimes

[lime vale]

I definitely need to get Better with Smith

[mint loom]

Same

I suck at using him but hes so fun

[uncut forge]

Same! Ever since the clones can't bounce against the wall lol. It really screwed me over

[hidden whale]

hello smith mains!

i think i did a new combo

jab, up tilt and down tilt and neutral special down, neutral and then side special

[tame condor]

Any chance for a clip? Could just be me but I can't seem to land neutral attack before the dodge goes off

[uncut forge]

Agent smith ranked duos anyone?

[hidden whale]

let me take one

[lyric orchid]

I know hand canon is supposdley broken but neutral feels so much better with regular gun

[tame condor]

Agreed. I'm sure both have their moments/situations, but regular gun having extra shots has won me so many games

[hidden whale]

i got the clip

let me resize it

[lyric orchid]

i wanna see now

[hidden whale]

#combos message

here

[tame condor]

Hmm do most people do training with the Bot Behavior set to your setting? I usually use "Dodge After Hitstun" instead of what you're using there. I can replicate it with your setting but not mine

[hidden whale]

unsure tbh, i saw once demo using it

[hidden whale]

yeah same opinion

with the loop hand cannon was the way to go

but now that it s gone, u can just use 5% or freeze

[wicked imp]

Oh that’s the old gun loop he had from before the nerf but with a different finisher

[hidden whale]

yes

since i cant land jab anymore

[wicked imp]

I think instead of gunshot down, you can instead land sair into dodge cancel jab at low percents to loop once, but it only works once to my knowledge

And I don’t think it works on small characters like Gizmo or Arya

[hazy flare]

Down special is also more consistent at causing a ground bounce than dair is

[vestal onyx]

guys can up b special into up b special be a true combo on agent smith sometimes?

[tame condor]

NEW AGENT SMITH SKIN BOYS

[uncut forge]

Yeah but you gotta buy the pack

[tame condor]

Delicious 2 stock I got, made my day #clips message

[mint loom]

Still, maybe it gets discounted in the future or sold separately idk

Its a cool asf skin anyway

[uncut forge]

I'm sure it will be sold separately after the 6 days. I'm glad it's cheap too. 500

[tame condor]

Desperately need some advice vs Morty and T&J. I find it near impossible to approach

[mint loom]

Yeah

I also want the batman skin as well but dont wanna pay 800 gleam

Would rather buy separately

[tulip fox]

the store and events refresh at different times so there's a non-zero possibility the new skin will be offered in the new event, it's even shown on the banner

in 2 hours we'll know for sure

[strong mica]

What are some bad matchups for Agent Smith? I find myself struggling a lot against Taz players.

[tulip fox]

well, looks like I was right

you can also buy it with gleamium if that's your thing

[strong mica]

I like the cyber skin more tbh. But I still dont know if I want to play Agent Smith

[mint loom]

Yeah I love this shop

I just hope we get more than 1 circuit credit this season

[hidden whale]

one question though, what about beetlejuice in the event?

[knotty timber]

It adds a really good tipper, so if you space it well enough it kills around 100 on the edge of stages

I wonder if it still works, I wanna try this combo

You pick agent smith in ranked because he’s balanced and not too broken

I play him because almost nobody else has him and his skin

We are not the same

[faint zinc]

It doesnt

Also that was back when handcannon was like THE perk to use over the others

Nowadays I just use 5%

[uncut forge]

Anyone got 100% Agent Smith cosmetics? I got 3 outfits left and the spoon emote

[ember mango]

h

[knotty timber]

😭 its joever for agent smith

[knotty timber]

Yeah, I don’t see handcannon being all that good, and the grab protocol sucks cuz it doesn’t give you enough time

I think dude just needs bigger hitboxes for the forward aerial and he’d probably be better at nuetral. It’s really hard to hit short characters in nuetral when they know what they’re doing

[faint zinc]

smith is a neutral beast

if there were 5 moves to buff i wouldnt even consider sair

sair is very good

[mint loom]

no idea

hes in this event and the next one in 6 days so he prob will come out soon

prob be buyable for 6k

imo they should have kept a character behind rifts cause it keeps ppl playing

would have been smart

I understand the decision tho

I love the new rifts a lot more

different events tied to each individual rift

I just wish the rifts came out each week instead of 2 weeks

[tame condor]

I would give anything to be able to remove Smith's dash from even accidentally being used

Has to be the worst dash in the game

[mint loom]

its good tho

[tame condor]

I'll have to find a way to watch it in use then because every high rated Smith I've seen never seems to use it and I personally can't find a situation where it's a good option

[wicked imp]

Nah I think Iron Giant probably has the worst dash attack

[tame condor]

True, forgot about that one 💀

[wicked imp]

It’s so painfully slow that no one ever gets hit by it

And it has like the heat death of the universe level of whiff lag

But Smith’s dash attack does kinda suck yeah

At least it’s more consistent now tho

Harley’s and Jake’s still whiff the final hit at ledge

[knotty timber]

Its good in a way because if it whiffs he still has a low profile, and it also doesn’t use bullets unlike dash attack

[sly blade]

what perks have you guys been running?

[dull roost]

Any good kill combos besides up air up air lmao

Been loving down special 👏

[tulip fox]

no combos really, just use any gun move or up b

[tulip fox]

5%, snowball, speed, pugilist

[faint zinc]

currently editing and making my first smith montage video

wish me luck 🙏

[dull roost]

Really? I use the sweet spot perk

Ive though about using 5 percent to keep his muti shots

[tame condor]

Ping me when it's done

[faint zinc]

i finished the video

if anyone wants to see lmk i can dm

[tame condor]

I wanna seeeeeee

[modern salmon]

They arent clones silly. You gotta read your move descriptions. They didn't watch matrix 2. Agent Smith has no special powers in Multiversus

[hidden whale]

bruh

[hazy flare]

I run collateral damage in the 2nd slot
Smith's combos still feature lots of bouncing the opponent off the ground

[onyx sequoia]

Ah yes because it's normal for people to turn their entire bodies into green lines of code.

[onyx sequoia]

Did they get rid of the gun land cancels?

[tulip fox]

clone is easier to say than another agent

I guess you can say backup but it's not as snappy as clone

[modern salmon]

It should have been a clone

Since that's a power he has

But they didn't want to represent any agent smith specific powers for some reason

No assimilation/possession or clones. Just gunfu, which is a john wick thing not a matrix thing

[spark wing]

Gunfu is a John woo thing

[karmic cosmos]

how do you play against this guy? I get rolled every time

[tame condor]

Imo #1 thing is don’t get caught by the clone grab. It’s our easiest way to kill. Playing neutral well wins games against anyone, but the ricks that have rolled me outplayed me in neutral

Also I’d say smith is a bit better off-stage/on the edge than Rick so I’d avoid fighting him there

[hazy flare]

Not sure what you mean by that, but it's much harder to connect a jab after a ground bounce now due to jab's hitbox being delayed
However, if you do fastfall dairs then you can just go straight into another up attack

[dull roost]

Gimme smith buff 👀

[faint zinc]

eh

he doesnt need it

[mint loom]

☝️ 🤓

ermmm akchually snort* snort* they did not get smiths moveset right

[modern salmon]

For real

[mint loom]

itth just gun fu snort*

[modern salmon]

Thank you payerfirst games for saving us all time by watching the first 35 minutes of the first movie and then making a moveset

You have made the brainless very happy

[mint loom]

I think its time to drop it dont you

[modern salmon]

Hear me Tony Huynh, we want Ben 10 to he a Punch and Kick character !! Don't stress yourself with transformations !!

[mint loom]

getting kinda pathetic at this point

all I see you say is ts

[modern salmon]

Nope. I will always be above the showerphobics here like you.

I must be here. Always.

My cross to bear against the smelly storm

[mint loom]

mmm yeah Im supposed to believe somone complaining about a kit takes showers

ermmm nooo they didnt watch the 2nd and 3rd movies grrrrr

actual definition of a nerd

[modern salmon]

Yeah i typically expect them to make movesets of beloved characters with their iconic ability sets

Not my fault snoozer first games couldnt afford to rent the other movies

[mint loom]

I typically expect you to stop talking

[modern salmon]

Nah I don't think i will

[mint loom]

clearly incapable

[modern salmon]

So long as there are riders like you

I shall persist

[mint loom]

mhm yeah ok

[modern salmon]

The folks like yall who would applaud and squee whilst kicking your legs in the air upon receiving an iconic character boiled down to punch and shoot need not concern me

You cannot be reasoned with

Because you have long lost agency over yourself

No standards... Content with mediocrity

Kissing pictures of tony Huynh for making the big bad of the matrix shoot and punch

[faint zinc]

bro cannot enjoy a game 💀

every detail needs to be 100% otherwise its unplayable

[mint loom]

he always doing this

ever since smiths release

so funny lmao

[modern salmon]

I just think its wasted potential. A huge character with a unique powerset... Ignored

Just given a meeseeks and a gun

[faint zinc]

maybe they dont wanna add characters like ben 10 or regular show characters is cuz of people like you

who complain about the character not being perfect

[modern salmon]

Hope if they add wicked witch she is:

Punch
Summon monkey
Kick

[mint loom]

k but I dont want smiths moveset to include stuff from the 2nd and 3rd movie

[modern salmon]

Ben 10 would be impossible to be like agent smith is. Ben isnt anything at all without his omnitrix

[faint zinc]

dw man

ill talk to one of the devs and tell them to make ben 10 a punch kick character

just for you

[mint loom]

yes

[modern salmon]

Ben 10 having any aliens would be better than Generic Matrix Grunt

[stark anvil]

Well Smith primarily relied a ton on hand-to-hand combat in just about all the movies he appeared in, the gunplay is stuff that his allies like Agent Jones are more known to do.

There's the subway fight at the end of the first film, the fight with all the clones during the first-half of the second film, as well as the final fight in said film's second-half

Besides there still is some neat creative stuff in his moveset currently, like talking into his headset and teleporting in any direction, or summoning his allies on the spot. Not to mention all the cool visual and audio stuff, like the blurry effect when he does his rapid punch, or his distorted scream when dying just like Neo did when he took the pill that warped him out of the matrix.

If there is one thing I would have loved to see more stuff from the sequel films, but a lack of gun-related play is honestly not a problem given his melee combat is super cool anyways.

I think Smith was handled relatively well, and he's a super-balanced character at that too.

[mint loom]

Woah careful

You made good points

He's allergic to em

[rapid cairn]

Smith is cool but he’s pretty much matrix 1 smith

Matrix 2 is honestly the coolest version of both smith and neo

[mint loom]

Yeah because of their dynamic

[hidden whale]

bro am not even surprised or anything, just complete disappointed someone can reach such a low point lol

[rapid cairn]

I don’t mean character wise i mean powerset wise

Though yes that is also the coolest version of their relationship

[onyx sequoia]

That's what they did lol.

Everyone loves the first Matrix.
It's the most influential well known film in the series. (I honestly even forget that the follow ups exist until this character came out)

Or at least that's what I keep hearing.

Like if they made a Luke Skywalker moveset and left out the sequel trilogy or in the after mentioned Ben 10 example leaving out the modern reboot.
No one would bat an eye cause their flagship stuff is still there.

Side Note: Anyone know what Smith's victory poses is a reference to.

He just kinda tosses a folder with some code.

Wuz dat mean?

[mint loom]

It was from his interrogation with neo pretty sure

The file

Folder thingy

[onyx sequoia]

Neat.

[modern salmon]

The matrix is good but its weirdly restrictive to ignore the cool final acts of agent smith. I do think this isnt their doing tho

Like finn and steven are explicitly season 1

Arya is the only one who has anything from an entire show

Bc she didnt do anything in season 1

And agent buddy feels strange enough that i think they were legitimately told to make it not a clone

I'd wager they have a strange warner restriction on spoiling too much of the movies, but iron giant uses his rage form so it doesnt all make sense for that

[onyx sequoia]

I can't speak for Finn, but that's not really how Steven works.

He had a very limited access to his powers in Season 1.
It's really only his Melons, Bubble shield, Sair, I guess arguably up-air that would come from it

[modern salmon]

Yeah i guess steven is also in the boat with arya where he took too long to do a lot

I think his tilt is from future

[spark wing]

Smith has been my absolute favorite character to play lately after dropping Lebron and getting a lil bored with Jack

Anyone feel like his side special startup is a bit slow

[hazy flare]

justified imo for the reward

[thin phoenix]

Hi guys ima just play Agent Smith for now

Morty is trash after this update

Hes B tier

Not even downplaying

[fierce ibex]

B-

Smith has been alot more fun

Even before this patch

I am maining Jason and Smith for now

[tame condor]

Any Smithers run 2v2 gold+? Kinda scared to push rank since he doesn’t seem like he offers much in 2s. Curious what partner(s) he does well with if any

[mint loom]

good

[hidden whale]

if u need any help ranking up u can write me, anyway any rushdown character that can use his clone spam are good pairs

[tame condor]

Cool thanks so much

[thin phoenix]

I know he needed a nerf but now he is just bs

[river urchin]

I made it to Masters with Smith. Teammate ran mostly Shaggy and Bron. With a tiny bit of Jack to round it out

[tame condor]

Hell yeah. How does he feel in 2s compared to 1s? Or does he feel the same?

[river urchin]

He can have trouble playing Neutral against a lot of comps in 2s. Learning how to can get clones to work is important, otherwise they just fail constantly. Gotta make a lot of reads

He works well with someone who can help him ledge guard

[tame condor]

What major perk do you run in 2s?

[river urchin]

Also if you can scam a side special kill, take it lmao

[river urchin]

Depends on the Matchup

If characters with armor like WW always 5%

5% in general makes neutral a lot easier and consistent for smith

But if you feel you are really good with the Hand Cannon into non-armored characters I would rock it

You can create some nasty setups with spacing and spikes

[tame condor]

Dope, ty for the info

[river urchin]

Learning how to use Neutral special well is important

Gotta know when you can get away with its startup speed

[uncut forge]

New agent smith profile icon looks cool

[dull roost]

buff smith

[mint loom]

Havent had a chance to hop on yet

was it added with this patch?

or did I just miss it lol

[uncut forge]

I think it was added with the patch.

It's 200 to get it. I might wait until it pops Into the daily deals one day.

[mint loom]

cant seem to find it

is it in the shop?

[dull roost]

buff

[mint loom]

buff

[uncut forge]

Should be in the account cosmetics under profile Icon. I'll get a picture of it

[uncut forge]

#off-topic message

Here's the Icon

[mint loom]

oh damnnn

that is really nice actually

sick

[uncut forge]

Ikr!

[mint loom]

I hope it does make it to the daily deals

but im not sure do legendary cosmetics even appear there?

[uncut forge]

Yes. Ive seen mogwai Stripe icon pop up. It's legendary

[strong mica]

Buff

[dull roost]

Buff

[thin phoenix]

Smith does not need a buff or nerf he is pretty balanced

He is just a hsrd character

[hidden whale]

true

he s pretty good at what he does

[crimson robin]

Genuine question. I find that I have no idea how to get around really projectile heavy characters. It's pretty unfun to need to constantly dodge Marvins and Toms. Any suggestions on what to practice or some YouTube videos that can help point me in the right direction?

I just found this part of the Discord so I have a lot of catching up to do in this chat.

[lost sequoia]

just got agent smith...not really sure what the best combos to go over. i've just been going for SA1 -> dair -> handcannon and try to get another SA1 to start it over but i feel like i'm fishing too much

any other cool bread and butters?

[hazy flare]

the sa1 unfortunately tends to miss after ground bounce
I do sa1 -> up attack -> down special -> dair/sair

[cursive dew]

@grand fjord gg samurai jack needs a nerf

[grand fjord]

gg man you're good

[cursive dew]

wp bro it's always fun to fight a good agent smith i tried to learn him he's good

[hidden whale]

sa1 is what move?

[hazy flare]

jab1

[hidden whale]

oh thx

a friend of mine is learning smith but since i mained him before the patch, idk what combo to tell him

[hazy flare]

at 0 you can even do raw air down special -> dair

just make sure it's at full jump height

[hidden whale]

yeah once he buys him i ll prepare him some stuff

[thin phoenix]

Can someone give me tips for playing with smith?

I cant really kill with him

[lost patio]

Same

[hazy flare]

up attack double jump uair

[zenith mulch]

How does one more consistently do the quick Dodge into Neutral Special. Having trouble doing it consistently

[tame condor]

What middle perk do you guys use? I seriously can't decide between Speed/100/Collateral. I like Collateral on some maps

[zenith mulch]

I want to use it to slide off the edge to edge guard but first I need to get it to work every time

[hazy flare]

in order to slide off the stage, you'll need to hold up and forward while dodging, then input neutral special

[dull roost]

Too bad. Buff.

[hidden whale]

100 absolutely

basically every attack he does now applies weakened, have fun

[dull roost]

Buff

[uncut forge]

I don't think he needs a buff. Clones just need to work better

[mint loom]

The clone needs to be reverted back to switching direction when hitting a wall

Such a stupid change tbh

And I think clone needs to be faster but idk about that, I just suck at using it

Oh yeah and I think his up special needs to be so that you cant get hit out of it when teleporting cause idk its kinda stupid

Its already hard to hit

[dull roost]

Buff

Give grounded down attack a shockwave on charge. Would be cool, I demand.

It would be like the movie

👏

[hazy flare]

I would really like that 1 frame back on jab
and maybe have his down attack armor actually last while he's doing the hit, because as soon as you release charge it's gone

[dull roost]

Buff

[dull roost]

Thats a good idea

Buff

[zenith mulch]

Yea make Smith‘s HitBoxs alittle better lol they are so small for his attacks

[graceful hemlock]

Advice against steven?

[dull roost]

If your fighting one that spams neutral air neutral special is your best friend

[graceful hemlock]

I was trying but he was aware of the counter so it was getting tricky, perhaps u can watch some of my matches sometime ans tell me my faults

[dull roost]

I can try, Im at work right now, so I would have to see a recording or something.

Also, if you can condition him to use his neutral air more towards the center of the map. You might have an easier time spacing the neutral special. Unless you already are.

[zenith mulch]

Jumping above and down Special alot will make them start to use N Air alot if thats what your wondering lol

[dull roost]

Buff

[hidden whale]

yeah it s so weird that when i try to do the old loop the jab hits but the game doesnt register it

[dull roost]

Buff

[zenith mulch]

Buff

[warped quarry]

ppl rlly do be forgetting he has a gun

[mint loom]

so

hes weaker than a lot of characters

the gun aint even a gun it acts more like a sword

melee weapon

[uncut forge]

Yeah I rarely see other Agent Smith players use it.

[warped quarry]

funny gun

[uncut forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-hill-bicycle-riding-cowboys-cowboy-gif-1022948746026166453

[warped quarry]

like i aint gonna lie to be fair, it destroys a lot of projectiles

[mint loom]

Welll he doesnt have any projectiles himself

So balances it out basically

[warped quarry]

besides the agent kind of

[mint loom]

agent sucks idc what anyone says

barely land it tbh

anyone with a brain can avoid it

[fresh goblet]

Agent is better in 2s I find

[mint loom]

yeah the chaos goes well with it

I mostly play 1s thats why I find it kinda useless most of the time

its such a cool move but damn I hope it gets buffed in some way

[hazy flare]

why does he always say "I know your moves" at the literal WORST time?

right when I'm about to get hit by a read by my opponent

[uncut forge]

About to get to Gold V as Agent smith

Oh wait they left. Got it!

[river urchin]

W

[tall verge]

does agent smith have any good kill confirms off jab

jab jab down tilt doesnt kill early enough

[hazy flare]

jab1 -> up attack -> up air

[tall verge]

oh right. i forgot jab1 combos into up attack because its so hard to make it consistent

[uncut forge]

Agent Smith needs an emote

[tame condor]

Landing a badass Neutral Special pistol shot for a kill is the best feeling in the game

Neutral Special really is the key (and getting good with it). Once I started abusing it I started winning a lot more

[dull roost]

Hear me out. They let agent smiths dash attack shoot his gun still on whiff if you hold down attack during dash attack. 🤔

[dull roost]

Jab > uptilt > double jump > up air at like 90-120

[uncut forge]

Satisfying move with Agent Smith. Clone then uppercut to ringout opponents at 40%

https://youtu.be/pZRrGZgMYq0?si=dCkqJIQd0a2bNyHj

[uncut forge]

If you missed out on Agent Smith Ringout. It's in the daily deal

[mint loom]

Nice

I got it already but still good for ppl who haven't

[dull roost]

Buff

[tame condor]

Anyone figure out a way to beat/touch/do 1 damage to Wonder Woman?

Not convinced there's anything we can do if they have more than 1 brain cell

[steep gazelle]

Try save a bullet again WW. Obviously it’s easier said than done but it’s good for breaking armour (also the armour disable perk is just good to use against her)

[tame condor]

Sorry I didn't understand your first sentence

[faint zinc]

He means try not to use gun as much compared to other characters

Multishot is so good vs her and superman because both characters have a ton of moves that involve armor

Multishot destroys armor with one bullet, meaning having more than 1 bullet saved up will mean they'll get hit by the 2nd one

It's definitely a weird mu and way more bait and punish for us but it's not impossible or near the mu's like gizmo or t&j

Also yeah amour break is really good as well just because it'll allow you to reload ammo without having to deal with ww spamming it when you run out of ammo

[hidden whale]

really old message but i am doing some cool extensions off this

really good bnb

[faint zinc]

jab 1 utilt is like the definition of smith combos

you get so much off it

you could do stuff like jab1 > iad sair but you burn through so much more dodge meter and would only recommend it if you're full dodge meter

[full harbor]

what sig perk do yall use

[spark wing]

5%

[tame condor]

I think diamond 5 is my cap on Smith. Incredibly tired of disjointed hitboxes ruling the entire game. Half the cast has to work twice as hard for half the results

Drooling Finns and Jokers with no game skill getting a free handicap

[wicked imp]

You’re telling me you don’t like getting hit by the longest and second longest reaching jabs in the game and taking 60 for it?

[tame condor]

Reading that made my blood boil

[hidden whale]

i did a 1v1 ranked ONCE

with batman

encountered joker, lost by a jab cuz of his 0tod

annd that s why i am now playing 2s

[tame condor]

Does the balance in 2s feel different/better? I have no friends to play with so I'm scared to let my rank fall in the hands of some rando

[tame condor]

At a certain point, 1v1 really does feel like it comes down to who lands the first jab several times in a match. Really depressing and kinda boring

[hidden whale]

as i said u can call me and we cab play togetha, i don't mind at all

also yeah u see less jokers

and if they gonna try to do a combo ur teammate can save u

[hidden whale]

luckly it s not always like that

[wicked imp]

I will say a lot of jabs are really good in this game and I do wish characters had more aerial combo starters instead of jab tbh

[tame condor]

Agreed. As annoying Steven and Batman are, at least their kits are fun and refreshing for example

[strong mica]

Playing against a finn main is exhausting

Their entire kit is disjointed so he controls neutral and I can’t get close to him or I’ll get killed at 30

[steep gazelle]

Playing against most characters is exhausting but yeah especially Finn

I’m sick of samurai jacks spamming side special

[hidden whale]

jack could be one tbh for his down special or side tilt

[zenith basin]

Agent is a major nuisance in 2s

[mint loom]

I suppose so

I dont play 2s mainly cause its so laggy

and I dont rly like the chaos

lose my own fighter half the time

[zenith basin]

I prefer 2s but mainly play 1s

2s is a better mode imo

More enjoyable, and less punishing in ranked

1s sucks

I dont enjoy 1s

I just dont have friends

[uncut forge]

Agent Smith is a great character. Idc what anyone says either lol

[dull roost]

buff

[zenith basin]

Nerf

[dull roost]

Buff

[dull roost]

Nerf jaaaack

Privileged playerrrr

Boooo

[zenith basin]

Buff Jack nerf Smith

Nerf Velma buff Joker

[dull roost]

Nerffff hit box too bigggg Privileged nerfff

The Handsome S M I T H. .

[dull roost]

buff

its really slow lol

[dull roost]

Its very slow. You can just jump over it or dodge down or up to avoid it

What character do you play man.

[dull roost]

the context was lost here

but yea its got good range

[fierce ibex]

Anyone got good Agent Smith combos?

[faint zinc]

Jab 1 > utilt is your best combo starter

After that just branch out from there

[blazing pine]

There an active Character Disc Serv for Agent Smith by chance?

If so please DM me the Inv.

[lyric berry]

is it just me or is the marvin matchup literal torture for this character

[young plank]

Agent smith needs an buff tbh lol, but he does insane dmg and can kill you early so you cant complain a lot you khow

[hidden whale]

he s balanced tbh

[dull roost]

Buff

[mint loom]

Buff

[uncut forge]

His clones need fixing

[dull roost]

Buff

[hidden whale]

Buff

You heard him

[flint grail]

Do smith's bullets count as projectiles for That's Flammable?

[flint grail]

annoying but marvin dies early

[lyric berry]

no they do not

[flint grail]

ah, didn't think so

clone does though, no?

[lyric berry]

afaik clone does count as projectile but its also a weird edge case

[hazy flare]

Clone is a light projectile that interacts with things that state projectile (Black Adam shield for example)
Bullets are not projectiles. They are melee attacks.

[short garnet]

if you're the agent smith I just beat who was salt emojing relentlessly because you thought you were gonna win in ranked enjoy that L

I respect the rest of ya'll though.

[faint zinc]

Down with that 1 Smith player

[nova plover]

burn this random guy at the stake

we can’t have any bad apples ruining our reputation

[uncut forge]

Real Smith players stare in silence

[uncut forge]

Gold 3 #292 as Agent Smith 2v2

[mint loom]

nice

[uncut forge]

https://tenor.com/view/agent-smith-laugh-the-matrix-maniacal-gif-7461841

[dull roost]

BUFF

[mint loom]

YES

BUFF

Hitting his down air is so dopamine mann

No other spike in the game feels better

[short garnet]

Y'all are funny 😂

[graceful hemlock]

who is smiths bad match ups and can they be overcome?

[hazy flare]

characters that edgeguard, it's really hard
also Finn and Samurai Jack just require you to put in so much more work in neutral

[maiden bridge]

Hello Fellow Agents 🕶️

I’m a newbie to platform fighters and I’m struggling soooo hard haha I’ve only played traditional 2D fighters my entire life so this is a big change for me

Any advice? Specifically Smith related advice? Thank you, Agents 🕶️

https://tenor.com/view/oh-agent-smith-hugo-weaving-the-matrix-interesting-gif-22197056

[short garnet]

This humble person needs some advice.

[maiden bridge]

As I just got my cheeks blasted by a Joker / Stark combo

Lord save my ass, Agents

[maiden bridge]

This is rough, I feel like I’m moving through mud compared to the rest of the cast

[hazy flare]

Compared to normal 2D fighters, your openings aren't going to come from your opponent getting mixed on where they need to be blocking and you aren't going to be doing any frame data checking in this game because obviously, there's no block. So instead, you'll be inching your way in and out of the opponent's burst range to bait them to attack, or calling out their movement/setups with your own burst option. The best way to pull this off is with dodging, since you can cancel dodges with attacks and jumps. Note that if you do this, your dodge no longer gives you intangibility frames and it burns more of your meter. However, it is key to finding openings. Most moves have a reactable whiff punish window as you get used to the game, so dodge -> jab (grounded side attack) is going to be a staple of your gameplay with pretty much any character. From there, Agent Smith gets very good leverage off of jab combos.

Do you have any Smith-specific questions?

[maiden bridge]

I know this is super general but I feel like you’ll know what I am looking for

When I play Smith, what is my “game plan”? I know everyone plays the game differently but leaning into Smiths strengths what should I be doing and looking for?

[hazy flare]

you're a cqc, bait-and-punish type character
so you'll really want to extend your punish game when you get in, especially looking for opportunities to jump over with your down special, punishing undershoots with your grounded down special (the agent), overshooting with side special, and whiff punishing with jab -> up attack combos

you can edgeguard with side air (the hand swipe), neutral special (gun), and down special, and down air sometimes

neutral special hits through the literal stage as well so if they come up too high you can just aim it down and hit them through the corner

undershooting/overshooting is when you attack either closer/farther than where the opponent currently is because you anticipate them to be there
usually undershooting is meant to stuff out an approaching attack, so it should be a disjoint (ours is gun), and overshooting is supposed to punish waiting for an undershoot (a very common tactic that mid-level players use)

[spark wing]

Air down special is your friend

Down spike with air down atk, up strike with up atk or air up special

Don’t forget neutral special to keep em off guard

[late briar]

I hate the jack vs Smith match up

[hazy flare]

Saaaame

[dull roost]

buff

[mint loom]

Buff

[nova plover]

so like what the hell do we do against gizmo

[mint loom]

Umm

Buff

Yeah

I think

Buff

[graceful hemlock]

Advice against fin and jake?

[dreamy zodiac]

They gutted this character's jab

The hitbox just doesn't match the visuals. I know there aren't any listed changes but it should definitely be hitting some of these interactions, when it certainly did before he got nerfed.

[hidden whale]

looking at his old loop I miss you

[dreamy zodiac]

Also they acsolutely murdered his neutral special. Why does fully charged gun not kill Jerry half the time?

[hidden whale]

or in the air he takes 200 years now to pull the gun

[dreamy zodiac]

It has more startup than Black Adam's neutral air. You know, the massive clap? Whyyyyyy?

They took the Agent Smith and turned him into a desk job office worker.

[hidden whale]

they could have just reduced the knockback and mantain his speed but no hope they revert it

[hidden whale]

THAT WAS A GOOD ONE

[dreamy zodiac]

God I hate nerf culture so much lol, why are we nerfing every character that has something cool, something that makes them unique? Are we going to gut every character until no one is good anymore and we're all just different Velma variations?

And then we let Finn get away with actual murder where all he needs are two reads to kill you, when not even JASON gets rewarded like that?

[hidden whale]

didnt even see this many people complaining about his gun

now they complain about his campiness ( which i think is also thanks to his nerf )

[dreamy zodiac]

It is.

[hidden whale]

so as someone wise says

Buff

[dreamy zodiac]

He has no approach options. People can complain about his camping but he actually has to.

His best approach option is his Jab now, he has no approach options from the air, the only one he ever had was gun.

[hidden whale]

and it was fine too, other one was side air but the thing that made it unique was the gun

[faint zinc]

Jake you just win, that mu is easy

For finn you wanna play patient

Play just outside of his burst range and whiff punish his laggy normals

[graceful hemlock]

I was fighting a really experienced jake and it is not as simple a su are making it

[hazy flare]

This is correct. They didn't change the animation of Smith's jab at all, they just delayed the hitbox coming out by 1 frame, which makes jabbing characters that bounced off of the ground impossible.

[winter rivet]

Why are smiths combos so strict at times?

[graceful hemlock]

could be some online delay

[hazy flare]

depends on the combo you're referring to

[winter rivet]

Maybe
At times I try jab > up tilt > dair and try to loop the jab but it don’t work
If I replace dair with angled Nspecial I can get the jab sometimes

[faint zinc]

It depends on the ground bounce

Jab utilt dair isn't true at 0

At 0 I recommend going for down special over dair

Then you can do landing sair into dash cancel jab

[hazy flare]

can't loop jab after ground bounce
at 0 dair doesn't cause ground bounce consistently

[winter rivet]

Got it

Thx y’all

[mint loom]

I hate it as well

[pallid karma]

Smith is not a bad character

Embed fail 😔

[rigid cliff]

Didn't mean to send that

[pallid karma]

He's a very good character in a badly balanced game

[late briar]

I love fighting joker

I love just getting owned because he legit is my character but better

[onyx sequoia]

You know after seeing someone say Smith is better Lebron, and Wonder Woman is better Steven I'm starting to think people might have slightly awkward perceptions on how they view their characters.

[dull roost]

Buff

[faint zinc]

The Smith LeBron one 100%

Not so sure about that Steven ww one though

[uncut forge]

Having Rick as a teammate sucks

His portals get rid of your clone

WHY!

[dull roost]

Buff.

[graceful hemlock]

I didnt have enough time to finish the circuit event and I am so salty

[graceful hemlock]

Anyone use smithes robot cosmetic?

[late briar]

I use the neon one

[mint loom]

Therefore making him somewhat bad

Hes not bad I mean

Its just

He rly does need a buff

[graceful hemlock]

What is so bad about smith that he needs a buff?

[dull roost]

Unfortunate.

[mint loom]

Idk if ur special orrr

Something else

He def needs a small buff

Perhaps hes balanced but still

I want a buff

[faint zinc]

He's balanced he doesn't need a buff

Just cuz you want something doesn't mean he needs it 😭

The only thing I can think of is giving dtilt more knockback or giving up special armor

But both moves are fine as is

[cyan vessel]

he is balanced, but let me ask you...what does balance mean in an unbalanced game?

either you buff him to the league of the broken characters..then have him nerfed to the dirt later
or nerf the broken characters, which they wont do

not as bad as sam jacks range on side b 🤣

yeah, seems like they default into making side b moves like that tbh
shaggy, banana guard, smith, jack

[mint loom]

Idc

He needs it because I want it

My opinion is more significant than yours

Unfortunately

[mint loom]

I dont grind ranked lmao

I fail to see what batman has to do with this

Buff smith

[late briar]

When I play vs a jack I cry

[mint loom]

Are u talking about rp?

Sure bud

U cant see mmr

And yet there are many characters stronger than him, hes not a problem

Where

Brainless would insinuate that he doesnt need to put in the work to beat characters, clearly he does

Im not underplaying him he's strong but to say brainless ermm nah

I didn't know u played him

Are u talkin bout tracker.gg?

Ok im not saying he isn't stronger than these characters or that he has to work harder than them

He still requires some work put in

Hes not brainless like u think

I dont play superman how am I gonna have 1k mmr on him

[late briar]

With smith

It's either kill early or kill late

I be shooting people at 150 and I'm like how you're alive

[mint loom]

Yeah so ur bringing up stats from like 2 yrs ago lmaoo

Well yes but mmr clearly is

Mmr is hidden now

I have never played taz in all my hours lmfaoooo

Yeah 2 years ago it seems like

It says I have 587 wins when I have 1722

Yeah def 100% accurate

Mmr is hidden now there is no mmr

I dont play 2v2

Mmr is gone bro do u not get it 💀

It doesnt show mmr anymore

Its outdated

Its only rank points now

They're all outdated

Mmr isn't gone but its hidden in order to use it for matchmaking, we cant see it

Ok lets say smith for example

I've played him much more

Than superman

Why isnt he there

Its outdated

Crystal clear

Yeah so do my wins? Doesnt mean mmr is updated

Who do u play then

YOU LEGIT JUST SAID IT DOES LMAO

Im so done with u

.

U still said it

Yeah then dont say u didnt say it

U clearly said never

Proceeds to say context again

I can't believe this

Yeah im too slow, meanwhile I just explained why ur "context" argument is wrong and u ignore it

Yeah ok im done arguing with a wall

"Grrrr ur the wall mister 😡" is how that comes off as

Yeah ok this argument is done

Lmao

Aight shush now

No more

Quiet

Hush

Zip

[uncut forge]

Yo can we get back to being an Agent Smith chat. No one cares

Take these toasts

[mint loom]

💤

[uncut forge]

<@&882349260409032746>

[mint loom]

Thats rude

I feel like this individual is harassing me

[uncut forge]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[mint loom]

https://tenor.com/view/agent-smith-multiversus-winning-animation-done-the-matrix-gif-14663277874204802081

Tf what did I do

This is insane

So did u?

I dont understand this

Bro ur not slick

Whatever then

We ended it and then u had to continue for some reason

Bro

Ok

Lmao

For sure

Seeek1

Its not exactly subtle

Coulda been done better

4/10 bait

Ur legit the same guy

Aight bro

ts not funny

I dont even know what to say

Did u forget to change ur username or something

U have the same name as the person who was allegedly "fighting" with me and joined on the same date

Ur the same person

Im not dumb

Yeah ok

Bro

Ok

Whatever

[uncut forge]

<@&882349260409032746>

[mint loom]

Hes actually being weird now

Bro???

U messaged me and then deleted something

I replied back

This is a new low

This is getting a bit ridiculous and obsessive now, u can stop.

[uncut forge]

Welp

[mint loom]

Well that was

Something

Imma just go ahead and start brand new lets forget abt that

Ummm

Smith is cool

[uncut forge]

Buff?

[mint loom]

Indeed

Buff

[uncut forge]

Yes and no tbh

[uncut forge]

Rick is such a horrible partner for Agent Smith

[hidden whale]

His air gun back again

[hidden whale]

Holy what happened there

[dull roost]

What the heck did i miss, also. Buuufffff

[hidden whale]

Buff

[mint loom]

Dont worry abt it lmaoo

Entire argument

And then ts guy switched into like 3 different ppl gaslighting me into thinking he was just a spectator or something and then deleted all his messages, every single one

[uncut forge]

👆

[strong mica]

Yeah. Out of context it looks like you had a schizophrenic episode or something

[uncut forge]

Oh geez

[graceful hemlock]

What was his chief arguement?

[pallid karma]

Nah dw he was just talking to the matrix

[mint loom]

I have no idea he just went on a rant about my "mmr" which was clearly from the beta after I said smith should get a small buff cause I want it lol I said cause I want it as a joke

The whole argument just went on a massive tangent basically

[dreamy zodiac]

This character did not deserve the nerfs he got, his jab feels so awful now.

[graceful hemlock]

Was there just a patch or something?

[dreamy zodiac]

Also Agent Smith still suffers from his up tilt bug and that hasn't been fixed since he got released.

[graceful hemlock]

What bug is that?

[dreamy zodiac]

If his fully charged up tilt collides with another hitbox, he takes his OWN KNOCKBACK and dies nearly instantly

To nerf this guy while other bruisers get to get away with all their cool stuff is mind boggling, and is just another example of poor dev decisions being influenced by a bunch of loudmouthed people who don't know what they're doing.

Jab was not a problem. Gun was not a problem. Why is a bruiser's jab infinitely worse than others? Jack, Joker, Shaggy, they're jabs actually work.

[strong mica]

They're influenced by popular tweets and videos. Why do you think Lebron was nerfed so many times?

[mint loom]

So stupid tbh

[hidden whale]

that s really stupid

[dreamy zodiac]

Why is Gizmo a better bruiser than smith

[uncut forge]

I hit a Bannana Gaurd with an Up tilt while he was slamming downward. Hit showed him getting hit. But he stayed at 0%

[dreamy zodiac]

All I want for christmas are functioning hitboxes 👏

I want to stop getting hit from behind by Joker's Jab 👏

[hidden whale]

and gizmo down tilt

[dreamy zodiac]

I want to stop getting killed by my own up tilt because it's bugged and you'd rather nerf the character instead of fix him 👏

[late briar]

All I want for Christmas

Is actually to have fun playing this game

[dreamy zodiac]

You're not allowed to have fun in this game.

As soon as a fun character comes out, they're gonna nerf the fun you have in a few weeks.

Until everything is Joker, Gizmo, Sair spam Harley, etc.

You will never have fun in this game.

Skill expression? That's a nerf.

Found a cool tech? We can't have that.

Twitter? Nerf LeBron.

They even nerfed JASON last patch. They nerfed JASON. lol

What is it with the devs and wanting to make every character worse until we're all just having wheelchair battles with one another.

[hidden whale]

and luckly we had community ambassadors huh

[strong mica]

How can I play against a Finn? No seriously, his entire kit is disjointed and I can’t do ANYTHING to him in neutral. It’s like hes dominating neutral by EXISTING.

[severe tulip]

Fr, he has the same range if not better than gun and way more speed, feels pretty unplayable

[graceful hemlock]

I just beat a hyper aggressive jack, Killed him with the old send clone and uppercut. He is never going to forget that since it went through his strike forward attack.

[graceful hemlock]

My toughest match up feels like steven

[faint zinc]

Be patient, play just outside of his burst range and utilize gun as an approach option

[faint zinc]

This mu is +1/+1.5

When Steven puts up walls it's just free combo food

He has a really hard time approaching Smith because a lot of his burst options are just super laggy and easy to whiff punish

[graceful hemlock]

what do u mean by plus 1?

[faint zinc]

Meaning Smith wins the mu

It's one of smiths best mus that aren't bottom tiers

[graceful hemlock]

i find that hard to believe, steven's options are very verstile and faster than smiths, as well as very wide.