#Jason
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The mods just secretly hate him as much as pfg do
One of the mods mains Harley
They have something against us
They probably just commissioned an artist to make the emotes back in the beta
Harley mains and their stupid up combos
I don’t think they’ve changed since then
Pfg put up a poll asking which tank needed a rework most
I like to actually touch the ground when i play the game ty
Jason is winning pretty notably
The rework just ends up being a nerf
Funny how a few commenters be trying to argue Jason needs no buff
Jason and IG both need reworks
I think ig is ok
I think he’s finally balanced
At least he feels that way
His combos don’t kill you nearly as easily anymore
Even if you just buffed the bad hitboxes Jason would still be bottom tier
He needs more
You can actually combo him because they removed his extra hitstun
IG is still probably like 7th or 8th best at worst
Except there’s a glitch which makes him absolutely the #1 character in 2v2
Rage mode IG can collect Scooby Snacks from Shaggy when he charges rage indefinitely and heal to zero
Thats like when jason dropped post patch and had the upspecial glitch
Oh fun fact
At least until they likely hotfix it
If you use grounded up special on someone on the tree fort walls they fall to their death
I think I’ve seen that happen before
Something about like if they’re inside the tree hitbox, they basically just teleport into the blast zone
Man
The patch notes are bad, but here's the current view:
- Arya: 1 Nerf, 1 Bugfix
- Harley Quinn: 1 Buff, 1 Bugfix
- Iron Giant: 6 Nerfs, 2 Bugfixes
- LeBron: 2 Nerfs, 1 Buff
- Morty: 3 Nerfs (all on Mudwall)
- Reindog: 1 Bugfix
- Stripe: 2 Buffs, 1 Bugfix
I’m also hearing ranked bo3??
Be happy they didn't nerf his jab again lol
Forced BO3 for the same RP gain/loss
Oh yeah bron…..
Which is really dumb because RP gain should be given on a game by game basis like literally every other ranked mode in existence
The same????
Your telling me I have to do every match 3 times and I don't get anything extra for it
Seriously
Yeah so Jason stocks just plummeted
I think I might just not play ranked ngl
Who's ready for it take 2x longer to win 5 and lose 12
What's BO3, best of three?
Yeah
I’m all for forced BO3 because it encourages actually learning habits and adapting
But RP gain based on the set and not each game is a huge L
I was already questionable on it but now I don't really care at all
I’m not a big fan of the rp points 30 on 30
Same
Just make it an option to queue for bo1 or bo3
No
Everyone always one-and-dones
That’s the issue with other ranked modes
Ngl I was literally happier when it wasn't bo3 even when I lost
Just cheese with matchup checks and then take your free points
I don't think I've seen much people even complaining
And thats a problem why?
People are just too intent on spamming salt after a cheese kill thinking they’re somehow good
I only use salt when someone spams or teabags
Because it’s far too easy to abuse gimmicks and cheese to win matches that you shouldn’t have won
It’s not as much of an issue in a game like MVS, but it’s a huge issue in games like Tekken
Learn some gimmick -> decline rematch when you lose or if the match was close and you won
If they abuse a gimmick and win one game you're at a big disadvantage anyway
Rematch only if you stomp
Bo3 sucks when you have match ups like Jason t&j and now you have to watch a cutscene of your death for twice as long
HOL UP, can I change perks?
Ok but if you’re better, you’ll win
And yes I know the matchup blows
You gotta be a lot better to win that match up
If you're getting queued with someone that loses that then the match making failed
But I’ve lost a lot of games to getting cheesed on Dexters and I’d definitely want a rematch
Matches aren’t 100:0 for a reason
Dexters……
Thats just a dexters thing
Dexters sucks
No reason it should be in ranked
I agree
HARD agree
They really do hate us 😭
Widen it
The stage in general
The blastzones from the stage
Shorten the platforms
Remove half of them
Yeah
they made wario ware from smash but somehow its worse then that tiny blast zone stage, I dunno how they managed it
the dexters one
Yeah
Oh no it’s just as bad as in Smash
Warioware in Smash has the same insanely small side blast zones
The only bigger masochists than Jason mains are Velma mains
Idk why you would expect it to be fixed
Bro there was a taz spamming tornado how do You Even counter that
tornado cant gain height, you can jump over it and wait it out
just dont try to challenge it
not sure if it can turn around either
Same
Fern started tweaking and then jumped off the map 😭
it can but it loses like all speed and has to build it up
Rank's forced best out of three sucks ass in 2v2 if your opponent just gives up and doesn't do anything in the second round
Jump over and hit it from above, or parry it.
Man Arya's just an L for me if I can't react to that down attack
they literally shutdown clips the day it started to happen and yet they focus on nerfing iron giant than fixing the damn game
Like bro
They literally know about that
They literally closed a channel bc of that
Tf dym "iron giant nerfs"
For some reason, I got to fight against a casual 1v1 player WHILE IN RANKED. How do you mess up that bad, PFG???
They had no ranked badge at all. Not even bronze 5. It wasn't even a best of three either. He left after the first match somehow, even though the only option is to play again
How do.you guys feel about vs Samurai Jack? Felt horrendous at first. Still feels bad but not as horrendous as day 1
Screw ranked. I hope all yall who are trying your hardest to get Masters Jason get there, but I give up. Ranked is actual garbage now.
Kinda balanced
True and now they messed up Even worst bc now they take away 20 points and give You 8 for winning 2 matches like bro
1v1, it's ok. Sometimes oppresive, but ok. 2v2, you better pray they're not a good player
He beats Jason jab a lot and I've gotten caught by that damn kick while above him so many times.
It was already bad but now it's terrible
Agreed. 2's yesterday made me realize I probably won't do 2's with Jason ranked rn too much now that Jack is out
I'm still gold 4 or 3
The DC characters are a mental block for me sometimes
Had this happen a few times too
Jason does hit some of the sickest clips
Jason loses 90% of the match and gets clips the rest of the time
Literally almost every win he gets is worthy of a clip because that's just how sucky Jason is compared to the high tiers
Bruh, no hitbox changes
The taz matchup is still imposible 😭
Even if I manage to get Taz out of tornado, it’s always a trade and me never actually straight up beating it out. The only solution is to get high ground cause you can’t even outrun it with Jason’s speed 😭
I tried out Finn for the first time just to see how easy he is. I 3 stocked another Finn with a 3 star Finn badge. He's so abysmally easy to use
He's definitely making me better at spacing lol... I think I just wish I fought less of him. I had a Jack in almost every match last night, with a couple times being double Jacks queueing together to double up the side special... We won but it wasn't fun to fight against honestly
Felt. Been trying to find out how to grab him with up special. Usually the attempt is me getting hit by side special or getting kicked
I’d say parry but that’s very difficult
Like the axe grab? yea I've been using that less and less... It's good on the ledge sometimes or for like IG or grabbing someone off a platform
Yeah I spam it a lot and it robs the people of their air specials when they try to just counter immediately with them on ledge. So then they try to di backwards and they escape but they fall to their death after being robbed of jumps and air specials especially if they have no more dodge.
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Axe grab is so good. I only wish I could grab batman and superman with it when they go for flying grab and dive kick.
Honestly I think Jason is so beautifully designed in regards to representing horror. I don't think he's as bad as people seem to think. Armor could be a little better. Though with how he's not gotten any big buffs they probably have some good data that keeps them buffing him.
They don't have data they just suck at balancing
Also has anyone ever landed the air grab on stage and combo'd it with aerial down special? I've done it once but not sure if it was true or if guy just got hit
I don't agree with that I think after playing 1v1 most of the characters are pretty ok. 2v2 is a different story half of the intended mechanics feel useless there to me.
IG will forever be a problem and I think Velma might still need buffs but I think most of the others are in good places with some minor tweaks needed.
Joker and Finn still have zero to deaths
I think those are fine if you have to work for them. The Finn one comes way too easy imo. Joker I'm 50/50 on that one
No I don't play Joker
Long as the zero to death isn't just looping jabs and one special move or killing before like 80 I say leave it in
There has to be a skill ceiling or skill gap somewhere
You don't have to work for either of them. I got the Joker one in ten minutes
😂
The skill ceiling should be below "you die after getting touched once"
That's a given
Well maybe they can try making it a knowledge check. Say bad di means you die to it. If you di properly you escape it
Not really sure but either way they'll likely remove em
They've been in the game for at least three or four updates
😅 well they'll figure out their design goals soon hopefully and remove those. I can say they do have some inconsistencies with balancing butnI don't think they're wildly op.
Hopefully the acquisition gets them more staff and such to get better testing and ideas for the balance team
rise your hand if you main jason and you have no ides what to do when taz spins
✋
Axe is barely disjointed
You can't rely on rage all the time
Then keep getting hit by it idk
Then bro quickly cancels out of that thing and down airs you
Skill issue
Not really
I just realized Uber Jason has the wrong tags
He's not human, Jason x takes place after he becomes undead
Hi
Dude Batman on Cromulons…
Wtf do you do
You just can’t land and die at like 100
GGs @azure slate tough matchup but your Finn is nice
food... water..... one armored normal for jason and take the hurtboxes off of his weapons.....
yeah im not playing ranked at all
this isnt worth it
im not sitting through a BO3 against 90% of this roster for the same rewards i was getting playing 1 match
it really isn't. No idea why Superman can have grabs that go across the screen, armored kill moves, and a controllable attack teleport but jason can't do anything against half the cast bc he has one very slow, multi-step special move combo that lets him kill at low percentages
he just isn't viable at all in 1v1s
It’s definitely more of a reward than before, but not 2x as much
its not enough imo
I just won a 2-1 and got 26 points in platinum 4
Like it’s not that much worse than if I had won 2 and then lost 1
i think it should be 2x as much
if im having to play triple the games to get to the reward i should get triple the rewards
I saw on Reddit they stealth nerfed us is it true 😭
tell me it’s just some comment nonsense
Stealth nerfing Jason is simply diabolical
With what?
i mean
i am literally in masters 1 with him
the only genuinely near unplayable matchup he has is gizmo
maybe joker
there are other ones that are quite bad but you can win those
you can win any matchup
any character is hypothetically viable the problem is the consistency and also the fun factor
jason in the hands of a top level player is going to be worse than a joker or tom and jerry in the hands of a top level player
theres also the fact that most of these matchups just arent fun
well yeah
everything you're saying is correct
you can still win with him though
there are some characters that are so bad that you genuinely stop being able to do well with them even if you're good
he's no velma
but even if you can (hypothetically) win the results arent consistent enough which is why nobody says he is viable
I mean sure hypothetically anyone can win and it’s true Jason isn’t as bottom tier trash as Velma
But like if Jason doesn’t receive any help for the next several months, I’m sure you’ll never see Jason in tournament once everyone becomes super accustomed to the matchup
Like at a certain point, you’re just gonna skill diff your opponent and someone of equal skill will likely beat you with a better character
I think my opponent quit because I’m stuck on the win screen 1-0
It’s been 5 minutes what do I do
I don’t want to force close and lose massive amounts of RP
And I should be rewarded my RP because my opponent rage quit
Depends on how stubborn you are
Ok, now it's been 15 and it's still stuck
time to force close and see how much I lost
What am I supposed to do against rick
I can't approach him
And he has a true combo from jab that does 50 damage
Does anybody know
Or do I just pray I win
Wait for him to use up meseeks
Approach with iads and teleport to bait attacks and punish
Rick isn’t really that scary in neutral once meseeks are out of the picture so just jump over them and pay attention to what he does
What
No
I don't think So
The only time i used him recently was to do missions and agree
Finn was My first character unlocked and i just abandoned him
every finn match ever is criminally boring
Imma be honest. If I run into a competent Marvin, I’m just gonna suicide
That was the least fun match I’ve ever played
And I somehow won one of the three
Marvin is basically what you would get if you designed a counter to Jason
Infinite projectiles and free armor break
Incredible. My game froze
Can’t wait to lose like 50 RP from something not in my control
Taz tornado is the counter to jason
😭
True
nvm
Marvin and Arya are impossible matchups I swear
Hold on
Who Twas the other I’m supposed to @
Cuz I’m 2/5 of the way done
@dry slate
Whats it look like so far?
Nvm checked my pings
Literally one RP away from a rank-up and I ran into a Bugs. I managed to win 1 but it just wasn't good enough. Sigh
Appreciated my friend.
I just grab him and use axe slam on him more tbh. Can't catch him most of the time. More forward aerials too
Smith doesn't have any way to ignore armor in a way with a move that isn't somewhat reactable, ground only or both.
So if you get enough rage.
He's kind of forced to disengage and be on the back foot just to get cooked at 80.
It's kinda like Rick but without a good projectile or dash attack.
Cause 2F2B might've saved him if his dash attack wasn't as mediocre at it is.
smith is not a good matchup
he's too fast to reasonably deal with easily
his jab is amazing at punishing stuff jason does too
Neutral attack is not reactable as Jason
It's hard to dodge
Smith still combos the hell out of Jason to the point where I can definitely say it’s not in Jason’s favor. And Smith has a surprising amount of kill power in some of his moves and confirms. Sure Smith can’t deal with rage as easily as other characters, but the matchup is even at best
Genuine skill issue
Not a skill issue.
Bro got crazy burst movement in his side-special and dodge cancels.
Not a skill issue, you don't even know what you're talking about
Hold that thought
Neutral aerial special with the neutral special buff is weird. Without the buff, it's 1% on grab, 2% on first hit, 3% on second hit, then 9% on hit and launch, but with the buff you get 6% on grab, a stronger 3% on first hit, a weaker 2% on second hit, and the same 9% as before. It's weird that with the buff, the first and second hits trade damage values.
Also, aerial down special with the neutral special buff, despite being used up by the first hit, does one less damage than no neutral special buff prior
Yo same. Feels like it’s the best I can do for 1v1s
Why does sometimes someone hits me and I curl into a ball, and I can't move and fall to my death?
Does this happen to anybody else?
If any of you all were interested to see the damage outputs of Jason's moveset both with/without perks and with/without Jason's neutral special buff, I've created a spreadsheet so you all can view! I've discovered a few... inconsistencies, like swapped damage values and some weaker hits while Jason is using his neutral special buff?
Anyways, here ya go: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dCDORP4jMqAdJK3RNMeq4oz8tXsUSsxc3w8lz2Iq_b8/edit?usp=sharing
I’m in platinum 3 so far
It’s a struggle
It also doesn’t help that everyone plays top tiers
Absolute king
Is there a mod here that could pin that?
:)
Alr so I crunched some numbers
Smith neutral-attack when grounded is first active on frame 20 which is 333.3 ms repeating
Avg human reaction time is 250-270 ms faster human reactions can get up to around 180-200 ms.
So you either pay attention to when Smith rears his hand backs or listen for the bug sfx unique to this move.
You should be able to get out of the way when you see it.
Trying to climb out of gold with jason in this game is straight up the most miserable experience I've ever had
I don't know if it's a skill issue but it's literally impossible to fight any sort of projectile character
20 frames is reactable but very hard to react to
20 frames is reactable offline, but idk about online
Also Harley is such a braindead character
She just kinda mashes sair and it works because Jason sucks
Jason has a bad matchups against literally everyone at this point
Everyone just combos him into 70 with no effort whatsoever
I didn't think he was this bad but he's literally unplayable
he is borderline unplayable in 1s. I am Master V in duos
Least fun experience imaginable
I cant do it
I can't speak for ranked but my winrate in 2s playing mostly Jason (some Stripe) hovers around the 70% mark
Unplayable seems unfair, but definitely want some buffs... been waiting for them for a while now
In ranked you fight extremely good people, and I'm not talking about 2's, I'm talking about 1's
Straight up. He has bad matchups against 70% of the cast and has a hard time approaching and recovering, if you're playing against any projectile character you're basically done for
Welcome to the life of a Jason main. For some reason, they nerf our jab and keep Joker and Wonder Woman the same
Is it even possible to get past gold? I've been stuck here for ages. I have no idea how some people are master
Idk, ask anyone else trying to do ranked. I gave up after they added the forced BO3.
Yeah that's extremely painful, I lose to a Arya and get 3 stocked and I can't even quit
I knew people were asking for it, but the way they gave it to us is just not it. Lemme put it this way:
We asked for a glass of water. PFG nodded their heads and gave us a glass of toilet water to drink.
I feel like the loser should be able to just deny
Even if you 2-0 someone it doesn't even increase rp
Nope, but you can apparently lose up to 15 to 30 from what I heard
And I'm 50/50, I gain the same amount of RP I lose so I straight up can't get past it
I gain less than I lose sometimes
Yep
At this point I'm just gonna switch to jack and reach diamond with no effort idec anymore
Idk if I can reach diamond with Jason
Hard stuck in plat 3 and haven’t made any progress
You should be happy I'm hard stuck in gold v
this character is fun asf im ngl
Also, I hate Cromulons
Like I won against a Black Adam, but I killed with rage utilt -> uair at literally zero from the platform
The ceiling is so low it’s stupid
This game doesn’t feel designed for ranked
Croms is stupid but in my experience the low ceiling has been helpful
certain characters you NEVER take to cromulons😭
Its (badly) designed for casual 2v2 it seems
they kinda left 2v2s to rott tbh
Just because it’s helpful for Jason cheesing stocks doesn’t mean I think it’s a good stage
Cromulons would be fine with a larger ceiling
I was playing against a Joker earlier and died at 40 to jab because of the ceiling
Jab -> dair -> down special -> side special -> uair
That shouldn’t be killing Jason of all characters at 40
Dexters either needs a complete overhaul to make the stage bigger or just remove it entirely from ranked
Smallest side blast comes with the smallest stage width
I didn't say it was a good stage, its not. Its just that its bad in a way I like lol
It screws me over more times than it helps
Make it bigger and remove it
That kills on a lot of maps
Tbf most maps need to be bigger
The stages themselves also need to be bigger
No that just promotes camping a lot more
The only stage that needs to be bigger is Dexters
Dexters should be like 1.5x as wide with larger side blast zones
You say that like Dexters is a lot smaller than the others
It is
Like the second smallest is Cromulons, but there are the side speakers you can break and that makes the side blast zones the furthest away
I'm talking platform size
The main stage
Yes Dexters is the smallest, then Cromulons, then Tree Fort
And the rest of the stages are normal size
With Scooby’s and Townsville being the longest
While Townsville also has disgustingly small side blast zones due to the parts of it never breaking, the stage width is at least enough for the side blast zones not to be as egregious since most fights are in the center
We need more stages that aren't tiny or covered in platforms
I think the skyzone stage width is the best width
Skyflats/plats?
Yeah
Appropriately sized stage width with appropriately sized blast zones
I will say I’m ok with differing blast zone sizes
But I don’t like how easy it is to get cheesed on Dexters and Cromulons
If you have a decently sized stage then you get away with small blastzones.
That’s why I don’t have as much of an issue with Townsville
They just need to make the main platform larger in general
Townsville comp is one of my favorite stages
But Dexters is small stage width wise and blast zone wise
I think I like the 2-platform Wonder Woman stage the best
Can’t remember the name offhand
The floor is grass and there’s the Wonder Woman statue in the background or something
trophies E.D.G.E
I will say I don’t understand why we don’t have sky zone 3 platform available
Yes this. Thanks
Is trophies in ranked?
I can't remember if I've seen it in 1s but it might be a 2s stage
It exists in 1v1
But I don’t get it often
I get Dexters, Cromulons, Tree Fort, and Townsville by far the most often
I swear the bad maps have a higher chance
In order of most common, it probably goes:
- Dexters
- Cromulons
- Townsville
- Tree Fort
- Skyzone (no platforms)
- Trophy’s Edge
Which is like literally the exact opposite of the order I’d want to see
Did they remove water tower from ranked? I've never seen it
Yeah
I was noticing a lack of water tower, I just thought I was getting unlucky
Wonder why
Dear jason mains
Have any of you ever used Zombie step (Grounded down attack) outside of being comboed after jab jab
Nope
Funny how both of his Grounded down attacks are ass but his aerial down attacks are stronk
Occasionally to break Bugs's safe but that's about it
All the time
Whenever I land on a platform accidentally instead of doing down air
does that even hti that far bellow the platform?
Idk, probably not
So you do it out of reaction?
I do it because I don't realize there's a platform there lol
oh
missreaded
Nah I edited it because I wasn't clear, you're good\
Everyone says Jason's so much better in 2s but I feel like I'm awful in 2s. I don't get it at all
i kinda agree,in 2s jason can be rescued more easily by its teamates
Depends on your playstyle and a lot of other facts
can land decidibe blows
or just
the sleepignbag passing from one of the worst thing created
to actually pretty good
(wouldnt be surprised if pfg doesnt buff it because how strong is in 2v2)
Not only that
Since the bag always gets throw into a predictable position
Your teamate can follow it
And get absurdly early kills
Or not even following it up
Sometimes just lettingem break free from the bag is a death sentence
Since your teamates can fully charge a attack waiting for them to do so
Irs absolutly freaking nuts
In fairness it might just be the 2v2 matchmaking pairing me up with some real bad players lol
I'm better in 1v1 than 2v2 as jason
Agree
Yrp but he has the potential to be a absolute beast
The bag
Is pretty freaking strong*
Sleeping bag also works in 1v1 (only if the oponent wastes his Dodge meter)
Doesn't really do anything in 1s though. Hard to follow up on solo and it's pretty bad as a kill move
Sleeping bag is too much risk for so little rewards
If You grab someone with 120-150 damage with the sleeping bag its a death confirm
Sure but so is jab jab side special at that %
True
And if you miss jab you won't have 100 years of whiff lag lol
Killing a oponent with sleeping bag is kinda humiliating for the oponent
I like killing tóxic people with the sleeping bag
Specially finns BC they like to waste dodges
Bag has one advantage tho
Sleeping bag is actually good for toxicing in 1v1 lol
Is that you can walk the enemy to the ledge
And then neutral attack
Camping edge
Or trying to combo the bag
I remember once i did a combo with the sleeping bag but i don't have the clip
You can throw them and then side air
Im pretty sure they can't dodge that
Depends on knockback
I won a game yesterday with jab jab bag throw, there's a good chance he uninstalled
The only use for bag in 1v1 is being toxic lol
The bag is also really good against a watermelon happy steven
Since hitting with the bag itself
Hits hard
And is a HUGE hitbox
In what situation is that better than just axing him though
You bag the Watermelon because it has no brain
Then you have A clubbing stick that hits like a truck and that can cover most of the stage
I posted a Jason art if anyone is interested
I'm 1 week on trying to get Jason into Master's. I'm gold IV and losing it. Superman and Jake are my worst matchups for some reason.
I have to test this out
Yes but only against WW armor or to get rid of Bugs safe in one hit
Does anyone have tips for fighting against good Finns as Jason?
Oh wait I literally just played against you a few games ago
GGs dude
Also no Finn just kinda wins and I haven’t found the answer myself
A finn main??? HERE?
Mods, exile him from the jason nation back to Finnland
Thats what a finn main would say
Accusing someone of being a Finn main sounds like a coverup for being a Finn main yourself…
I didnt said this
GGs.
Alright, made it to platinum 1. That’s enough for now
99% of multiversus players quit ranked before they hit it big
That’s what they want you to think
More like 99% of Multiversus players quit ranked immediately after they lose to a masters player in bronze
90% of Multiversus players quit ranked right before they get 3k xp for one win and instantly become Masters I
in that case, Since gizmo channel is dead, someone who plays him can say me which is better, flammable or snowball effect?
Flammable since it’s constant damage no matter what
Anyone else notice teammates in ranked 2v2s must be drooling on their controllers or something
Or do i just suck
I’d play in a party but that requires friends 🤷♂️
This game seems to hate Jason, he's literally slow, there are barely any combos with him and on top of that he gets NERFED XD. He's the only tank that doesn't have armor on his attacks and his HITBOX IS BIG. Meanwhile Samurai Jack and Iron Giant are still OP
This game doesn't know how to balance its characters very well. I find it funny how Samurai Jack has enough things to defend himself and counterattack while Jason is a piñata like the Iron Giant but weaker.
And for some reason he has the same weight as Superman even though Jason is way bigger
I'm a Gold League player with Jason and honestly, he's quite complicated to play against when it comes to Harley, Samurai Jack or the worst of all, Tom and Jerry. The character being quite slow makes it very difficult to defend against quite fast and annoying characters like these.
I've been getting frustrated with this game lately, because besides the servers going down from time to time (THEY SUPPOSEDLY FIXED THIS IN SEASONS 2) and the lag sometimes, the character balance leaves a lot to be desired.
The game is currently quite unbalanced honestly
If you play Jason you have to be mentally prepared for unfair matchups. You just have to be a much better player than your opponent most of the time
And signature?
Just play 2s
Your weakness of getting speed blitzed and combod doesn't matter as much
Gross
But you still get the full benefit of killing at 20%
I ain’t dealing with randoms
I dont deal with randoms either
That is up to you
I like the car one
But some people think giving the singing more utility is better
It’s all up to you
Or you just become the team punching bag and can’t really contribute much at all
nah
if you're the team punching bag in 2v2s you're doing something wrong
you can complain about jason in 1v1s but jason is actually cracked in 2v2s
I mean, it depends on who you’re teaming with
If you don’t have a good team comp, then yeah you kinda have to be the punching bag
I think they’re scared of buffing Jason cuz he’s already great in 2s
So I guess Jason has to be bottom tier in 1v1 so he can be mid tier in doubles
Sad reality
Not worth it
Honestly, Jason only truly needs like 2 buffs. Remove his hand hurtbox and don’t allow armor breaks to remove rage (or at least nerf the armor killer perk interaction)
Fix his disjoints and buff his rage
Fix the loop in any other way then nerfing his jab
I’d also like a reduction in the whiff lag of his bag, but I doubt it’ll even happen
I know
the move should be completely reworked or replaced
The move has low reward and extreme risk
They don't do that
they do actually
It’s a fun move that can work, it’s just too weak
At least making the whiff better would help when I accidentally use the move
a recent poll pfg put up has jason as number 1 for tank considering a rework/rebalance
Jason could use more weight, he’s the same weight as Superman’s. He needs a sleeping bag buff/rework. Resurrection perk needs a buff/rework. He needs armor on something.
Unless you have a Rick
so they pretty much confirmed they are planning to look very hard into him
I'll believe they'll help him when they fix the two people that have 0tDs
I’m hoping his legal rights don’t mess that up
Actually the biggest thing I don’t think anyone has said regarding what makes Jason so easy to randomly hit is the fact that while in the air, he A-poses
wtf do the legal rights of jason have to do with balancing his moveset
Reworking it means they’d have to get permission
Since they’d be changing it completely
Like if they removed the bag, they have to ask if they can and what they’re allowed to use
making new moves isn't the only way you rework a character
Jason has super annoying rights to work around
They’re not gonna completely change moves
you can fundamentally change the functionality
I’m just saying
they did that to jake
This
If they did change the move entirely
I know
Just saying
It’s probably the reason he hasn’t gotten a ton of skins too
I think the bag works just fine, just needs some tlc
Also where was this?
on the subreddit
i don't have it on me but if you just look for the poll its probably there
yea
Thats not Player First Games, thats just some random guy
His last poll got less than 200 votes, don't hold your breath on them taking action off of that
I find it weird Jason’s name doesn’t say Voorhees
Doesn’t on the character select screen either
The weirdest part is it isn't consistent
Sometimes it has the Voorhees
Yeah Jason in the Rift mode has his full name
And in his moveset section
It’s weird
Again I think his licensing has something to do with it
Nah, just oversights
I hope they’d fix it
It does
He's called vorhees
Even if the fighters selection screen but for some reason only the tooniverse skin has the vorhees
You need to use rage a lot against him to tank through his projectile wall. When you do use rage tho, most Reindogs will spam dtilt to try and break you out of it. You can punish it with jump into dair or I think trade with it using dash attack
Too bad dair is slow, they dodge out of it immediately
It’s still a rough matchup tho
You can call out their dodge
I ran into a Reindog who just spammed dtilt into dodge back while I had rage
I punished the dodge with dodge cancel sair to stop them from mindlessly dodging (it didn’t work and they continued to get hit)
I will say I’ve tried to dash attack through the projectile wall and it often doesn’t work from my experience
The fireball often just hits Jason’s head
Yeah it's broken I tried
I don’t get why he doesn’t have full body projectile intangibility
One of his best skins imo
It has to collide with the dash attack hitbox
If they want to fix it without giving him full body projectile intangibility, add an extra hitbox on his head
I imagine the only reason they didn’t give him full body projectile intangibility is because it’s not something readily available to add in the code and they’d need to build that functionality from the ground up
Bro only has three of them
I don’t even have that one
Like I wouldn’t be surprised if they can only add the armor property to hurtboxes and projectile intangibility on attack hitboxes with their current system
I have basic, Uber, and glitch code
They better fix their system then because it's incredibly stupid
Same, and the Jason profile picture
And why do I have so much end lag on my attacks as the literal slowest character in the game but the fastest have none whatsoever
The “Jason goes…”
The new one?
Sucks they only go on sale for 180
I’m saving irl money for Brainy Gremlin and other things
So I might skip on it based off my gleamium count
Brain Gremlin is hype
Very much so
Only thing I've used premium gleamium on is the circuit drone wowo and that was very worth it
I’ve only used it on a Marvin skin
I don’t think it’s a “they need to fix it”. I think it’s a “they didn’t have time before WB’s deadline”
Like this game relaunched in a similar state to the beta at its launch
They’ve been playing catch-up for months
We still don’t have all the QoL features from the beta
It doesn't matter if its how it is because of incompetence or deadlines, they still need to fix it
From what ive heard the dev team is super small
It is
I think around 20ish people or less
So we should cut them a bit of slack
Considering they have to make literally everything in the game work
Like they’re doing the best they can with a small team on a limited budget with strict deadlines
People gotta be nicer to them
I will not give them slack
Their decisions are dumb
Their implementation of mechanics are dumb
Bad decisions should be complained about
Yeah better word for it
I agree i should’ve said that cause there’s a difference between proper criticism and
General chat
Constructive criticism, worded kindly and thoughtfully will always be more effective than blatant rudeness and complaining
Lmao I never look in general
General chat is a toxic sludgeland
It’s a cesspool of toxicity and brainrot
Yeah but sometimes good players talk there and i get to ask them to play : )
I beat the number 5 stripe as stripe from talking there
I removed it from my channel list
Constant barrage of useless complaining
Clips is basically a better general
Yeah it’s mostly just people saying “nerf x”
Because people want to be handed free wins instead of actually working for it
“If a character I don’t play has a strength, I want it removed”
Is basically the logic
I wish we could talk about speculation instead
Nobody wants to speculate with me about the ppg
Whats there to speculate about
We have zero context on anything that they’d do
Or how they’d even work
We just know they’re leaked in the game files
Iirc
Personally, I never watched the show so I have no comment on their moveset
They're all one character so they're either like Aegis or T&J
Probably T&J, with different girls handling different attacks but all flying around each other
His full name is mentioned a Lot of times
Even the win amount badge has his full name
When they're coming
There's a bunch of stuff in the files about them
Season 3 probably
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that actually likes this game and thinks of other things instead of complaining
Naw I think they're coming this season
I highly doubt it
Probably all three in one but you can switch the main party leader
We don't have anything about them except one render right?
They don't seem finished
NAKAT has been teasing a third character for a long time and ||there's a mojo Jojo rift coming||
I'm still very skeptical
They're probably coming with beetlejuice
But we'll see
A character having a full render in the files has never happened before, not even beetlejuice
So it's weird that they'd have that
What cosmetics do yall run with Jason?
I'm thinking about getting the Scooby ghosts banner for him
Just the usual, I don't switch cosmetics for characters
I usually use the full beta banner, the man of tomorrow profile picture, the gossamer ringout and the badges for Jason superman and batman
Pretty good
Have you guys ever thought that we complain a bit too much about our character
Despite being us the ones who choose to main jason
Because it was probably free for most of us
😔
I like him cuz the movies are good
He looks really cool
And I like playing grapplers
I play him because he's fun (when I'm not getting infinitely comboed because I'm large)
Tanks are peak
Bro, I watched the movies after I used him cuz i always thought he was a cool character, I was not ready for the abundance of mammaries that I would see
Looking at beta footage is so cursed
The tiny mode in the rift is exactly how it was like
Why is everybody so tiny
Ikr, and it looks fast forward-ed, I wonder how jason wouldve played in the beta,
Heavies are fun
Lmfao
The more beta footage I see the less I feel bad about not playing in it
Idk how anyone misses it
I bought the battle pass for 950 glemium
Mammaries?
Looked it up
Yeah those are a staple of the films
Hes fun to play
I Even re watched the movies from part 1 to 8
Bc i didnt watch all of them
Just part 7,8 and 3
Also fvj
What about part 9
Seven ate nine
Part 9 and 10 arent in hbo
I just realized Jason doesn't have a ringouts badge, this sucks
They should add a max level
Being 20
Instead of 15
Being the max level the amount of ringouts
Or 30 levels instead with the level badge at 25 and tooniverse skin at level 30
Absolutely not
Why would you put a cap on levels
I mean instead of 15 being the last reward they add rewards till level 30
Bc beyond level 15 they give You upgrades or fighter currency randomly
Mastery skin should be a gold skin
Like Superman
For example, at level 30, Jack would get a black gi with gold lining and a gold sword
Tooniverse is bad mastery skin, its almost exactly the same
I was thinking more of a black/gold/blue color scheme (blue only for certain characters)
I mean its better than paying 500 gleamium
Not really
No 500 gleamium is significantly more valuable than the skin
I just fought a diamond black Adam who did the same unscapable combo on me that did 50 damage
I'm literally in gold 3
This game pisses me off so much
Dont worry
One day pfg will one day stop ignoring us, and give jason finger armor
Finger armor??
@round hamlet you aint seen nothin yet.... I have experienced such torment using jason that i had to learn meditation
How are you diamond tier man I can't even get past gold...
well, first off im really good with jason, so i think you should find comfort in that because it means that you can improve
we can 1v1 if you want, i can point out where you go wrong
any repo of jason tech/combos?
Sure what's your ign
Any Jason wanna 1v1
Sure
ah shucks, sorry for late response my ign is Macmumin
Wait is it a custom game?
How do I invite you
Dm me
@round hamlet you're good, but you dont combo enough, thats letting you down
also heres my exclusive tech tip: you can di your side special, which allows you to turn from aerial to ground, it throws off people without them realising
Where u at
buff jason
Yes
nah remember im top of jason leaderboards
Can I spectate
I just don't get how you're moving so fast
Sounds good
Like how we did in nasb with Arizen
cool whats ur user
Man
ThePhantomNugget
well tbf im particularly good at the jason matchup, but know that you can buffer moves into the side special, such that you can basically tp into a combo
Wdym
Oh yeah I know that
so you can like do a move
There's some loops
anyways
But that's about it
ready up or let the other guy rotate
I don't really know his combo game
oh
It's hard to connect stuff
That's the only stuff I know
I'm not aggressive enough right?
But it's pretty hard to approach people sometimes
I have no idea what just happened ngl
because the move stuns and you stopped me from swinging youj
so the stun of the axe move
lasted
Is that a glitch
So basically you got cheesed
more 'tech'
yeah, basically the duration of the move stuns even if the move doesnt happen
ok swap with phantom
basically the thing with jason is
you cant counter in disadvantage
you have to reposition and counter
atleast
or just go back to being neutral
I'm fighting top #13 Jason rn
Same
Is it Jason VS Jason yall are doin?
Yes
Mind if I give it a go? I need the practice, I suck at the ditto matchup
Ight
I winned
oh sould i invite kaptain
Wait y'all are playing?
It's disconnecting for me
I can't watch it
I'm down
@spare sparrow I'll leave can you invite me again I can't spectate
whats ur username
I think I sent a friend request, but it's just my name on here (excluding the #BuffJasonVoorhees part)
MultiVersus crapping itself again?
Maybe
hmm
I'll restart the game real quick
Invite me again I wasn't seeing it
alright
@round hamlet done
Thoughts on my skill
Yo let’s go
honestly depends
I should be online now
cuz like, Uncle Spamuel and Slowser ive both beaten sometimes
Hope it works
ok cool wait for us to finish this (definitely swift) game
I’d say equal is fine
probs cuz im eu
And you guys are insane I have no idea how you play like that
Damn, I have to restart my game again because none of my characters are showing up lmao
It seems to not let me watch the match and it just disconnects when someone wins
Awesome game
...oh well, I have Jason at least equipped lol
Guess my characters are just gone for now
And all my account cosmetics
I hate when that happens to me
I’d say you’re better but not by a huge amount
Show me what you got
My turn?
yeah ready up
Btw since I don’t the badge on, my win count is 590 something
Yeah game isn't working I can't spectate rip
NOOO
That was so quick
Jesus he's good
Hey ur not that bad
btw i consider emoting a legit strat in using jason, its good as bait
Oh my
Whoever wins stays in and we rotate
yup
Yee
I need anybody to get a kill with the Sleeping Bag
Not happening
We have one of every skin in here now
Yes
I'm with Macumin. It feels finnicky at times, but it has it's uses
He used the bag!
You know before the jab 1 nerf, you could jab into bag
Yea
);
I got a stock at least
no more bag (best mvs move)
phantom ur up
