Velma

[warm lily]

Shaggy just eats Jack side special if he doesn’t have rage available, so I can’t even imagine how much worse it is for Velma with literally zero options

[sour linden]

Please just rework her

For the love of jab Tony

[misty dew]

either that or change the way the game works lmao

they keep talking like they want things to be less mashy but aren't doing anything to fix it

[sour linden]

I feel like there was no reason for Velma to be like this

[robust siren]

Whyd they even go for velma she’s such a strange character to go for

[sour linden]

Mind you they rebuilt the game from scratch after Beta

[robust siren]

Daphne literally knows karate why choose velma

[sour linden]

Why did yall not make her with the current game in mind??

[sour linden]

Cause people like Velma more I guess

[warm lily]

I think they’re doing a decent job so far with balancing except Velma, but like there’s so much work that needed to be done since relaunch that I’m not surprised it’s taking so long

[sour linden]

Like I personally would pick Velma over Daphne but she makes more sense for a fighting game to have the person that fights

[peak halo]

respect my fav ?

[robust siren]

Yeah i expected season two to be buns but surprisingly its not that bad but there’s always smth wrong with balancing

[sour linden]

I feel like they might’ve just given up on Velma or something

[warm lily]

There’s still a handful of problem characters and low tiers that need help, but it’s so much better than the start of season 1

[sour linden]

Unless they’re planning major buffs or rework in the next couple of patches

[peak halo]

give me back shaggy loops actually, just like superman

[sour linden]

😔

I don’t wanna fight loops but with stronger kill moves

[warm lily]

We don’t need Shaggy jab nair loops back

But I would like stomp to be more useful in combos than it currently is

[robust siren]

Yeah that nair in season 1 was a problem 😭

[warm lily]

Superman currently still has jab dair loops for like 70+ damage

[misty dew]

every other character that could do something like that still can, except Velma !!!😐

[warm lily]

And I’m not talking about the jab dtilt loop. This one is way more insane

[sour linden]

Give Velma combos

Let her combo into aerial up special or something

[muted holly]

Hello sigma pack, I have returned

[sour linden]

Welcome back

[misty dew]

stray hit queen

incredibly fun way to play the game !!!

[sour linden]

So fun

[peak halo]

what could they even do with it? if they add any hitstun we'll have loops

[sour linden]

That the counter play to Velma is literally sit on the other side of the map and wait for her to use up projectiles

And then just bomb rush her cause she can’t fight back

It’s like T&J counter play but super in your favor

[muted holly]

I mean idm the read heavy playstyle, just reward it and don't get me punished for hard reading the ipponent

[misty dew]

yeah

like why is she the only character without a real advantage state

[muted holly]

Pfg just hates her

[misty dew]

oh we know that lol

[muted holly]

Otherwise she would have received atleast something this patch

[robust siren]

The look on my face when i saw that one singular “bug fix”

[misty dew]

this is bugging me too because didn't they say they had like a bunch of more buffs coming after that first big patch?

where are they ?

[peak halo]

her ground side special is so useless.. even if it hits they have a chance of getting out of whiff faster than you like????

[muted holly]

My motivation to grind out ranked dropped harshly in the matter of milliseconds

[dry fulcrum]

Velma is just melee kirby. read to punish and win neutral, die in any other situation

[muted holly]

Atleast it's not like release anymore where you would get hard punished for hitting the move

[peak halo]

decrease whiff time and it'll be fine for me

[muted holly]

Allow for cancelling

I don't even see any use for sspecial even if it gets buffed

Maybe repositioning? Idk

[misty dew]

I sometimes get use out of for like catching people landing with something actually laggy (rare)

but like it doesn't really matter in the long run because even with the knock back buff it still doesn't kill at decent percents

lolz

[muted holly]

It kills shaggy from 140 and up

Not like anything else kills a lot earlier then that tho

[robust siren]

I literally can’t get out of diamond at all cause i gain like 4-11 rp but then lose like 13

[muted holly]

Yup same story for me

Someone in the Velma discord has a theory that the RP formula contains a deaths variable and the van counts towards that, not confirmed tho

[peak halo]

speak of the devil lmao, just played the most annoying jake

[robust siren]

ranked just feels like who can cheese more

[hybrid nymph]

I wish mystery machine was like... a instant projectile you shot out that carried players away instead of a very, very dumb CPU that just jumps around and wastes time sometime.

[muted holly]

Ranked is not even ranked tbh, just random matchmaking for rng based points

[robust siren]

could be, i know the van counts as a ringout in game stats but the game stats are also very inaccurate

[hybrid nymph]

I'm getting better at building it up each match but even if it lands, it sometimes just does literally nothing. It becomes a really bad Steven bubble effect.

[muted holly]

Van is so incredibly easy to counter that I am positive even a drooling toddler can counter it

[robust siren]

where tf is beetlejuice im tired of ranked

[warm lily]

Better cancel window, but it sends more horizontally so you’re forced to dodge jab and would only be able to get a max of 2 jab stomp which is only like 26 or 27 damage

[hybrid nymph]

to be fair I'm just playing 2s and in gold, players just are constantly aggro no thinking

[warm lily]

Awaiting the mid season update I suppose

[misty dew]

twos could really do with some team attack lol

that way you'd actually have to turn your brain on

[muted holly]

This isn't Brawlhalla, wouldn't work properly in multiversus

[hybrid nymph]

brawlhalla has it???

[misty dew]

I didn't know that either actually lol

[muted holly]

Brawlhalla has team damage in ranked 2v2 yes

[hybrid nymph]

Just seems like there's too much potential to grief hardcore

[muted holly]

That's why it's only in ranked on brawl

[warm lily]

No way. Can you imagine how bad every projectile character would be since their teammate would just constantly get hit?

[hybrid nymph]

I guess it wouldn't make sense with Velma, you're trying to hit your teammate.

She would be the ultimate griefing machine

[muted holly]

Might be surprising, but that's what I am trying to avoid

[warm lily]

Imagine you’re trying to combo off of speech bubbles and your teammate gets in the way and you have no confirm now

[hybrid nymph]

obviously she would be different though if they wanted to design around it

[warm lily]

Imagine the van grabs your teammate by mistake and you just lose a stock

[muted holly]

Seems balanced, nerf velma

[warm lily]

Velma’s flashlight now has a battery life and you can only use it so many times before it permanently turns off

[hybrid nymph]

Wonder Woman would also need a bunch of changes since she's also trying to stand on top of her ally to grant armor. But maybe it would fix how annoying she can be in 2s

[muted holly]

Ssst don't say that, you're giving pfg ideas

[peak halo]

velma only needs 1 evidence to use the van

[hybrid nymph]

WW+Jack and WW+Adam are disgusting 😔

[muted holly]

Jack is just disgusting

[peak halo]

make it have a cooldown like steven

[hybrid nymph]

Velma becomes the worst person you know who assumes based off one random thing.

[sour linden]

Jack side special is propaganda

It’s not his best move

His best move is jab

The disjoint is literally nonsensical

[muted holly]

I'd say sair or whatever that ginormous move is is his best move

[sour linden]

At the peak of his jab 1 his leg is literally longer than his torso, you can see on his ripped clothes skin

[peak halo]

take a shower shaggy destroys his rage and hurts shaggy +50 damage

[robust siren]

Why did they need to make him long range and fast

[sour linden]

That’s his gimmick

Godly spacing

Which is annoying when he’s this fast

[muted holly]

Unbeatable offstage

[robust siren]

Yea but like aren’t we suffering enough 😭

[sour linden]

His animations are deceptively fast

[hybrid nymph]

jack side special is like a better banana guard charge, you can see it coming and punish it but it's a little harder

[sour linden]

Watch Beetlejuice be like even better

[misty dew]

I'm already prepared for that

[muted holly]

Oh I would just quit at that point

[robust siren]

Oh my god no

[sour linden]

They’re boutta give Beetlejuice like a frame 1 counter or something 😔

His down air is like completely covering his hurtbox or something

And all his tilts have armor

[muted holly]

They should balance the current cast before adding new characters

[sour linden]

I’m pre convinced Powerpuff girls will be one of the absolute most infuriating characters in the game

Cause unless all three are on screen at the same time they’re probably gonna be like Gizmo size

[robust siren]

its funny cause they said they were gonna balance the game before they release ranked and then they buff ww and give velma mains nothing

[sour linden]

Someone who can literally just fall out of attacks and combos

That nobody else can

It’s like Pikachu

[muted holly]

PPG will probably be like Pokémon trainer in smash

[sour linden]

I dunno

[peak halo]

you know what's worse than a finn who knows how to play

[robust siren]

someone said you might be able to throw bubbles we might have a second tnj loop 😞

[peak halo]

a teleporting finn

[sour linden]

In their voice lines that were leaked you can hear them say stuff of the other two getting KO’d

Ko’d*

[sour linden]

Which is why we don’t need gem

Finn backpack stomp is slept on

Can literally reverse when Finn is getting juggled

[muted holly]

I don't even remember a gem honestly

[sour linden]

If timed right

[sour linden]

It was broken dawg

[robust siren]

yeah it was

[sour linden]

A super fast good frame data assassin that can teleport

[robust siren]

imagine arya’s combos except she’s teleporting everywhere

[sour linden]

Literally

Arya teleport without cooldown

[muted holly]

Isn't she already teleporting everywhere?

[sour linden]

It was insane

I’d know I literally played Finn since day one beta

[robust siren]

yeah just not as much as finn used to

[muted holly]

I stuck to Velma all the time

Didn't play too much beta tho because of insanely bad performance

[sour linden]

Been a day one Finn

Literally watched twitch for the drop to get in a week early

And bought him day one

Cause he wasn’t on free rotation then

[robust siren]

i feel ashamed to be a beta taz main

[sour linden]

Lmao

Tornado ptsd

[robust siren]

All people would talk about with taz was the tornado

[sour linden]

Finn sword hitbox in beta was garbage

[muted holly]

I'm getting flashbacks

[sour linden]

It was literally the bottom half of his sword and his hand

That had the hitbox

[hybrid nymph]

Taz was more fun in beta even after the tornado nerf, they turned him into sandwich spammer now.

[sour linden]

Which was only noticeable after they fixed hurtboxes

[robust siren]

can’t forget about his backpack vortex that just pulls you in lmao

[sour linden]

Seriously what were the old hurtboced man

Hurtboxes

[muted holly]

Wasn't dair the move that was hitting 20km above Finn before hitbox overhaul?

[sour linden]

I felt ashamed of them when they showed what they were prior to the fix

[sour linden]

Yeah

But hit nowhere below him

[warm lily]

Remember Superman air side special?

[sour linden]

YES DAWG

HOLY

THE STUPIDITY THAT WAS THAT MOVE

[warm lily]

His entire upper body had no hurtbox lmao

[sour linden]

I swear it had priority over everything

[robust siren]

morty players now will never be able to feel the power of old nades

[sour linden]

Old sniper punch was crazy strong

[warm lily]

They’re still really good and nades will still kill at like 50

[robust siren]

Yeah but if you have like any projectile and you know morty they’re really ez to get out the way

[sour linden]

Veriflied has some of the craziest tier list takes for 1s I’ve ever seen

Especially back in season 1 current release

[robust siren]

i don’t remember if they could b destroyed like that before tho

[warm lily]

Dude his tier lists are absolute jokes

[sour linden]

The Morty downplay during season one from bro was immaculate

[muted holly]

His bias is on another level

[sour linden]

Acting like you didn’t just have to dirt spam

Like I watch his videos cause I like MVS content

But dawg all I see is stun gun dirt side air up air

[muted holly]

That's mort for you

[sour linden]

And then grenade “manipulation”

Until his stun gun is off cooldown

I can’t take Morty gameplay seriously 😭

[muted holly]

Put that damn dirt on cool down

[sour linden]

I’m saying

His close up game is the least of his concerns

And then the patch did the exact opposite the notes said it would

But to be fair most characters, especially good ones, have pretty common neutral game

Except for like Velma of course

[robust siren]

i just realized we might have a second iron giant cuz of marcy

[sour linden]

We could

The bat form is probably a meter thing

[muted holly]

Everyone on an s tier character plays the exact same, while people on for example Velma all play very differently

[sour linden]

Fr

I miss the old perk system

Was so unique

[misty dew]

me too

[sour linden]

So many different play styles

[misty dew]

triple jump 💔

[sour linden]

It’s coming back

Btw

[misty dew]

oh fr ?

[sour linden]

The icon was leaked

But it sucks now

[muted holly]

Ice coffeezilla make it rain dog will be missed

[sour linden]

You have to get hit for the third jump

[robust siren]

tasmanian trigohaha or whatever it was callex

[misty dew]

I don't mind that

[sour linden]

It’s a recovery tool 😔

[misty dew]

oh wait I read that wrong

ewww

[dry fulcrum]

she has a lot of skill expression due to her kit generally all being at the same (low) power level

[robust siren]

i can just see arya mains baiting people into hitting them so they can do some disgusting combo

[muted holly]

Yea I see people sticking with her core game plan while playing completely different from each other, and if I'm being honest, I probable have one of the most unique playstyle on velma

It I officially Monday I just realised

Why am I awake

[dry fulcrum]

not gonna say i'm great at the character but i did win a mirror earlier when in Silver so i'm happy about that

[muted holly]

First one to figure out the other wins usually

[dry fulcrum]

it was pretty back and forth, only won because i was able to clutch up with Mystery Machine and some smart spacing

[muted holly]

If smart spacing is what your playstyle revolves around then you can confidently say it is a decent way of playing her

[warm lily]

Dude he put Morty in B tier on his last tier list video. Like holy downplay

If you’re not putting Morty in top 5 minimum, you’re trolling

[atomic otter]

Lucid play more ranked

There’s one random above you

[muted holly]

My man I am dropping to platinum for winning 8/10 matches why should I play more

[misty dew]

just had someone I caught in the van completely disappear in a two games

like they just vanished and didn't come back lol

[peak halo]

funny how the best velma is almost 2,000 rp below me and I'm still second shaggy

[muted holly]

Doesn't that make like a lot of sense tho

[atomic otter]

How the hell did someone get masters with Velma

I have to see that gameplay💀

[robust siren]

Huhhh

[muted holly]

I would go for 3000 if this rp system wasn't messed up

[peak halo]

it would if every character had 3 different people in top 10.. it's only shaggy 😭

[muted holly]

He is not that good, I know who it is, he just got way better luck with rp gains

[atomic otter]

Luck in masters???

[muted holly]

Rp luck, not gameplay wise

[misty dew]

must be nice

[muted holly]

He's getting 16 rp consistently and losing 5

[atomic otter]

I think it also has something to do with win rate and how badly you beat ur opponent

[muted holly]

I 3 stock people for 5

[robust siren]

i got 4 a game i clutched up in like atp dont even give me any points 😭

[muted holly]

And the guy in masters winrate is basically the same as mine

I have a suspicion MMR is playing a role in this

[peak halo]

I'm getting 2 for anything

losing 8-13

[muted holly]

How did you even get masters like that

[peak halo]

it was normal until I got to masters

after masters 1 I get above 2 once every 5 games

and that could also very well be 3 instead of 2

[muted holly]

Was it normal in diamond?

[peak halo]

I think so

[muted holly]

Give me some of that because I can't climb at all with these gains

[warm lily]

Diamond is like win 7-8 lose 10-15

So like you need to keep a roughly 70% win rate to get to masters

[muted holly]

Win 3-5l lose 12-16 for me

[warm lily]

I will say it does seem super random tho

Some games I’ve won like 10 and other games I’ve lost only like 6

[peak halo]

I got around 8-16 average in diamond

[muted holly]

They should have published their rp formula honestly

[warm lily]

But then other games I’ve only won like 5 and then lose like 17

[peak halo]

I didn't pay attention to how much I lost

but I don't think it was over 5

[warm lily]

Yeah I have no idea how it works

It seems random

[desert roost]

I told you it was insanity. 😅

[muted holly]

I suspect it has something to do with MMR

[warm lily]

The only general trend I’ve noticed is that usually you tend to gain more for win streaks and lose more for loss streaks

But that’s not even 100% accurate

[robust siren]

ive been at diamond 3 for like days now it feels like a waste of time to even touch ranked

[muted holly]

There isn't enough evidence that winstreak and rp gain correlate

[warm lily]

I’m in diamond 5 in 1v1 and literally everyone tier wh*res

Everyone plays Morty, Finn, Wonder Woman, and Joker

[peak halo]

not for me

[warm lily]

I’ve never ran into a Velma

[muted holly]

Hopefully we get a patch tomorrow(Tuesday) as ranked is out for a week then

[peak halo]

arya?

[robust siren]

Cant forget about the nair spamming stevens with ttv in their user

[warm lily]

Oh yeah her too

Knew I was missing someone

[robust siren]

I wonder how many aryas are in diamond rn thats all i see in ranked

[warm lily]

Finn and Morty are by far the most common characters I see

Arya not too far behind

[muted holly]

I see a lot of batman

[robust siren]

Also too many jacks

[muted holly]

EU queue is just different ig

[peak halo]

if I can gain 2 and lose 8 minimum in masters 1 y'all can definitely climb, you still have all season

[warm lily]

I’ve seen a decent amount of Batman but not too much to the level of the others I mentioned

[warm lily]

Yeah I’m NA queue

[peak halo]

region doesn't even matter I've played everyone from na eu and oce

[warm lily]

Ok but you said you’re in Asia rn

It could just be that Asia doesn’t have nearly as many players

[peak halo]

case was the same in eu?

[warm lily]

Was it?

How do you check region anyway?

[peak halo]

yep and it wasn't nearly as laggy

[peak halo]

what do you mean?

[warm lily]

You said you’ve played players in other regions but how do you know?

Like idk if I’m playing EU players or not

[peak halo]

because they're top players

ttv in their name or just known

[warm lily]

Oh I see

[peak halo]

and oce players like to advertise that they're oce in their name for whatever reason

[warm lily]

If that’s the case, I don’t think I’ve seen any of them tbh

[muted holly]

Lmao same with people from the Netherlands

Anyways I will probably do another attempt at masters once Amazon finally decides to deliver my damn mouse

Which should be in 3 days

[warm lily]

Do you play keyboard?

[muted holly]

I play keyboard and mouse yea

[warm lily]

I’m curious what your binds are for mouse. I can’t wrap my head around using a mouse for fighting games

[muted holly]

My controls are cursed you don't even want to know

[warm lily]

Now I need to know

[peak halo]

I use keyboard and mouse as well

[warm lily]

You’ve peaked my interest

[peak halo]

90% of my binds are on my mouse

[muted holly]

Z-up
Q-left
E-down
D-left
Lshift-dodge
Space-jump
Lmb-attack
Rmb-special

[warm lily]

QWERTY keyboard or a different kind?

[muted holly]

AZERTY

[warm lily]

Ok that makes sense

I was gonna say that’s a really strange bind on QWERTY

[muted holly]

Even for azerty it's weird

[warm lily]

But that’s not that wack

I’m assuming you meant D is right

[muted holly]

Right

I need sleep lmao

[warm lily]

But E down I can see is a bit strange but I can understand the logic

[muted holly]

Felt easier to switch between up and down swiftly

[warm lily]

Yeah that’s what I figured

I play on Xbox controller

[muted holly]

Ngl I just copied my Brawlhalla controls and called it a day

[warm lily]

Totally fair. I copied my Smash layout but converted it to Xbox layout

Except I play Smash on Wiimote and Nunchuck

[muted holly]

Anyways Ima go to sleep, it's well past mignight here xd

[warm lily]

So it’s not exactly 1:1

Aight catch ya later

[muted holly]

Goodnight

[calm herald]

So I think im actually getting better at Velma now because im using more dodge mobility mixups and spacing myself well so I can decide what to do and now im actually having fun

[vocal pulsar]

Wow this character channel is actually active a lil

Well well well

Power to you I guess velma mains

I respect you

[boreal wharf]

Ngl I genuinely hate how grab is binded I accidentally click it sometimes for some reason?

[boreal wharf]

Gaining 8 and losing 21? Interesting

[atomic otter]

Master Velma gameplay #clips message

[cursive tendon]

bro was begging to get clipped wtf 💀

[boreal wharf]

How many Batman players will I have to play in a day 💔

[muted holly]

atleast 502.897

losing 13 gaining 5, both against masters players

i actually cant

[boreal wharf]

You got this trust

[muted holly]

nah im giving up until this system gets fixed

-21 for losing against the #1 arya was just too much

[dry fulcrum]

only 10 RP per win in gold? well this is gonna be a long grind

[warm lily]

I’ve heard the grind day 1 was super easy and even in diamond, you’d get like 15-20 per win and only lose like 5 but it seems the actual ranked part of ranked has kicked in and it’s actually difficult to climb now

[muted holly]

it differs from player to player apparently, the number 1 velma is getting 15 in diamond per win and losing 4

while i have the opposite

[warm lily]

Oh that’s stupid

I’ve been having the same as you happen to me in diamond

[muted holly]

like ive beaten the nr1 velma numerous times in a sparring session, yet he gets higher because of luck

[warm lily]

Idk if this is 100% accurate, but I heard the amount you win and lose and who you’re matched against isn’t based on your actual rank but is instead based on a hidden MMR rating based on things like your account level, total wins, etc

[muted holly]

heard some of that too

but that still wouldnt explain matchmaking and gains/loss

[warm lily]

And that would totally make sense if that were true, but for now it’s only rumors

[muted holly]

youd expect to be matched with people from the same MMR too then which makes your gain and loss similar right?

[warm lily]

Yeah I still sometimes occasionally get like 10 points for a win instead of 4-8 and sometimes I only lose 5 instead of 10-15

[warm lily]

Yeah idk it seems totally random. I ran into the #1 IG player a few days ago, lost, and I lost like 16 RP

Like what how does that make sense

[muted holly]

i lost -21 against the top 1 arya

[warm lily]

Yeah that’s stupid

[muted holly]

thats where i decided to draw the line and stop playing ranked until it gets fixed

[warm lily]

If they’re better than you and you’re expected to lose, then you should have less of a loss

[warm lily]

Yeah that’s fair. I’ve reached diamond with Shaggy in 1v1 and platinum queueing with randoms in 2v2 and I’m probably gonna take a break from ranked to just play other characters in unranked

[muted holly]

idek how they managed to f up making a functioning and fair ranked system

[warm lily]

There are so many examples of how to do ranked from other games

Like why is there no win streak bonus?

[muted holly]

brawlhalla has a fair ranked system (up until 2400 elo)

[warm lily]

Why do you lose more for losing to higher ranked players than players in your own rank?

Why do some people gain double or even triple that of others for winning matches in the same rank?

[muted holly]

win streak bonus isnt necessary tbh

then midnight queuers would gain an huge advantage

[warm lily]

Why are there no placement matches and everyone is forced into bronze 5

[muted holly]

yea thats a problem

[warm lily]

I mean, they already did

There were people who hit master on day 1 in like 6 hours

Just farming the new players and the fact that no one was a higher rank meaning they lost literally nothing for losing a game

[muted holly]

if only pfg would actually listen to the community for once

[warm lily]

I mean, they are

It’s just that unfortunately they don’t seem to be the most experienced devs and their team is smaller, so things take longer

And are less polished

The only exception for some stupid reason is Velma

[muted holly]

has velma been buffed? no
did wonder woman get nerfed? no
did morty get nerfed? no
has lag been fixed? no
have rifts been made solo friendlier? no

i can sum up more if you really want

[warm lily]

They’re still playing catch-up from features missing from beta

Like to say this game needed a few more months in the oven is an understatement because we’re basically in beta part 2

[muted holly]

beta part 2 with less features then beta

[warm lily]

I’m certain the reason the game relaunched in such an awful state is because executives at WB probably forced a deadline

[sour linden]

I’m not even surprised there’s less stuff

They literally had to build the game back up from scratch

[muted holly]

i dont mind that there is less honestly, but add / change things the community wants to see

[warm lily]

Yeah like I get wanting to upgrade to the newest Unreal Engine, but like they needed more time to cook

[sour linden]

But things like home page glitches just straight up shouldn’t be happening

[warm lily]

Oh the UI redesign is awful

[sour linden]

Or skins with tags that don’t make sense

[muted holly]

there is still match impacting bugs that says enough about the dev team

[sour linden]

Or a literal typo on one of Jack’s descriptions for a move

[warm lily]

I’m certain it was to capitalize on the whole “Fortnite style”

[muted holly]

also on velma

[sour linden]

Yeah stuff like that just straight up shouldn’t be happening

[warm lily]

Yeah it’s pretty rough. But at the very least, the netcode is leagues better than beta

When you don’t randomly lose control of your character and watch them walk into the blast zone, the game runs smoothly from my experience

[sour linden]

Recently I’ve been consistently losing last second because of lag spikes

That somehow only make me walk off the map but not them

[warm lily]

Yeah that happens to me frequently too

Sometimes it’s both of us, but usually it’s just me

Like the meta to win ranked games is to make sure you’re not holding a direction when the game lags so only your opponent walks off the side

[sour linden]

Yeah lagswitching is so annoying

Literally when that happens I walk off but my opponent can walk freely and be fine

[warm lily]

I’ll be honest, I think the servers are just garbage

And they clearly can’t handle the influx of players that came for season 2

Because this didn’t happen to me before season 2

[sour linden]

Yeah

[warm lily]

WB has so much money but they can’t be bothered to afford better servers

[sour linden]

I’m saying

Yet have so much time to make us pay for everything cool

[warm lily]

I’m sure if it were up to PFG, they’d probably make a lot of the skins free and focus on making features work over ensuring the shop is always functional

[sour linden]

Unfortunately big ole WB is staring them down

[warm lily]

But like big business be big business and WB has to please the shareholders

[sour linden]

Waiting for more moolah to roll in

[warm lily]

It doesn’t make sense because like if they only try to turn the game into a cash grab, no one’s gonna play it

And then they lose money

[sour linden]

Usually all they want is a quick buck

But PFG is doing everything they can to make it last

[warm lily]

Like if PFG is just allowed more time to make the game better and in a more playable state instead of just pumping out overpriced shop content, then people will stay playing the game

I wouldn’t be surprised if PFG did ask to reduce the fighter currency grind required to get characters free and they were turned down by WB

[sour linden]

Probably

The fact they could even get Joker’s price down says a lot

Yet not Jason

Who’s been out for the same amount of time

[warm lily]

Jason not being 3000 is a crime

He’s literally been out just as long

[sour linden]

Fr

[warm lily]

Smith costing 6000 is ok because he’s actually new

But even then I say it’s “ok”

[sour linden]

Man MVS itself burnt me out

Trying to grind this game is mentally unhealthy

[warm lily]

I totally agree

[sour linden]

Straight up taking a break today

Cause I can’t handle some of the bs in this game

[warm lily]

And it doesn’t help how toxic the overall community is

[sour linden]

Literally dude

Someone asked for easy Jack combos

And someone replied with ew

This community will literally kill itself

[warm lily]

Everywhere you turn with the exception of like Velma, people are crying for nerfs, looking to dunk on anyone new to the game, teabag and salt spam for winning one game and declining rematch, etc

[sour linden]

Fr

The more top tier their own character is the more they complain

I don’t even understand why I bother interacting here sometimes

Everywhere I go all I hear is nerf Finn 0tD

While there are characters that are literally better

[warm lily]

I’ve always been of the mindset that if you need help with or against a character I play and you’re respectful about it, I’ll help you no problem. But if you’re an a*hole about it, you’re on your own

[sour linden]

That nobody cares about anymore

[sour linden]

Yeah

Like there was someone in clips that was whining about Jack

And being insanely hostile

Instead of simply asking “how to I counterplay Jack”

[muted holly]

nobody can complain about balancing except velma players period

[sour linden]

That’s a bit of a stretch but ok

[warm lily]

Jack isn’t even OP. He’s a strong character but his combo game is weak and he has very low knockback scaling on a lot of his moves so he can only kill via edgeguards

[sour linden]

Jack’s side special literally only kills early off stage, that’s it

[muted holly]

side air covers everywhere that it shouldnt cover

[warm lily]

Yeah because range is his strength

[sour linden]

People will make everything out to be too op

[warm lily]

As it should be

[vocal pulsar]

idk bout uu guys but lag been fixed for me, and rifts have been made solo friendlier, s1 rifts filtered all the crybabies its easy asf now tbf

[sour linden]

That’s the point

He is literally the spacing character

[warm lily]

But like he’s big and light so he dies earlier and gets comboed harder

[muted holly]

his "range" doesnt even match his animations thats what annoys me

[muted holly]

for me it is fixed, for other players apparently not

[sour linden]

Only problem I have with him is jab 1 and aerial down special

[warm lily]

That’s only really an issue with rage side special imo

[muted holly]

and rifts all still have that bring another player into battle thing

[vocal pulsar]

i think it has cause no one rly complains abt lag anymore, its just dcing and walking off the stage

[warm lily]

It hits really far behind him

[sour linden]

Jab 1 at the peak of the attack his leg literally stretches longer than his body, you can see on his ripped clothes skin

That’s my main gripe

Because half the time it’ll look like he’s kicking air

[vocal pulsar]

not needed at all, took me like 30 mins to finish the event

[sour linden]

And still hits you

[muted holly]

i cant because i dont have jack 👍

[vocal pulsar]

ah yes now thats a problem

[warm lily]

I mean, yeah his jab 1 has deceptively long range

[sour linden]

They don’t give you Jack to use in the rift??

I thought they’d like lend him

That’s dumb as hell

[vocal pulsar]

pretty sure they do in some right

guest

[muted holly]

for the 1 or 2 nodes you dont need him they give him for free

[sour linden]

Oh

Is he not free past that point?

[muted holly]

nope

[warm lily]

They need to stop with the “win with x character” missions in rifts

[sour linden]

Dang

[sour linden]

Especially skins

[muted holly]

and there is like 10 nodes that have a challenge "play as samurai jack"

[vocal pulsar]

oh well then u just have to find a person for a couple easy rifts, no biggie, they take genuinely like 10 seconds now easiest thing ive ever done

[sour linden]

That one really pisses me off

They could’ve done so much more with rifts

[warm lily]

Yeah I only completed the event because I played in beta, got the first battle pass free, and had enough gleamium saved to buy this current one

[sour linden]

Instead it’s just random mini games along with fight someone with a gimmick hell

[warm lily]

Otherwise, I wouldn’t have Jack

[muted holly]

i didnt care enough about jack to save gleamium

[sour linden]

Can’t wait for everyone to beg for Beetlejuice nerfs

[vocal pulsar]

there are very fun boss fights tho, and the minigames are great

[muted holly]

bought myself a skin i like

[sour linden]

The moment he comes out

[hybrid nymph]

They should do way more rift matches where you have to use a specific character (or a very small selection), but they're unlocked for that match

[warm lily]

I saw someone talking about this earlier, and he proposed a great solution

[muted holly]

that is something i could accept

[hybrid nymph]

it would make the Rifts less boring too

[warm lily]

Have the battle pass characters be available to purchase for like 8k fighter currency or you get them free by buying the battle pass

Then lower the price to 3k after the season ends

[sour linden]

Or better yet wait and make an actual story mode

[warm lily]

Yeah no Jack cutscene was pretty disappointing

[vocal pulsar]

I mean yeah but tbf not much ppl would buy the bp then

[warm lily]

I don’t really care for the actual character because I was never into Samauri Jack as a kid

[sour linden]

I was just excited they gave us a character people actually asked for

[warm lily]

The battle pass is way more worth buying than anything in the shop

[sour linden]

Instead of obligatory old movie character nobody remembers except for their parents

[vocal pulsar]

ik loll thats why Im saving up at least 950 so I can get the bp

[warm lily]

950 gleamium for like 7 or 8 skins and other stuff

[vocal pulsar]

each season

[vocal pulsar]

is this a shot at smith buddy k thats it

[sour linden]

Nah

Gizmo stripe

Beetlejuice

They only made it in for marketing

[vocal pulsar]

yeah but they add variety, cant just cater for one part of the fanbase and leave the other hanging

gremlins was a good addition

[sour linden]

Cause WB loves to reboot old stuff I guess

[vocal pulsar]

especially since theyre fun to play

[sour linden]

I hate gizmo

But yeah stripe is cool

[hybrid nymph]

If I wanna be charitable, maybe they went with a bunch of weird picks for the initial roster because they knew they wouldn't be exciting enough for the full release. That way everyone is excited for the new characters post launch

[sour linden]

True

Especially cause the game is leaked so was for some reason

[warm lily]

I mean, the range of characters in the roster is pretty vast

[vocal pulsar]

thats why I think every character adds something great

[warm lily]

And rumor has it that the wicked witch is coming at some point later

[hybrid nymph]

Like who would have bought Wii Fit Trainer in Smash 4 if she was DLC

[sour linden]

lol

[vocal pulsar]

hmm yess rumor cough cough le cough ak

[atomic otter]

Wonderwoman and Morty got nerfed. Wonderwoman kinda got a huge nerf to her jab hitstun

[hybrid nymph]

and I like WFT

[atomic otter]

Got rid of so many of her combos

[muted holly]

morty got buffed more, wonder womans only neutral weakness got removed

[sour linden]

Velma literally only got a bug fix this patch

[muted holly]

and shadownerfs

[warm lily]

Lmao no Morty was buffed. The dirt distance nerf means nothing on every stage except like Scooby’s

[sour linden]

Oof

[vocal pulsar]

nerf velma to the ground shes too strong

[sour linden]

Tf are they nerfing for her??

Better than Steven fr

[muted holly]

they nerfed mark duration and projectile paths for no reason at all

[warm lily]

I’ll consider dirt a fair move when they remove the weaken it applies

[muted holly]

and book had its cooldown extended a few patches ago

[sour linden]

Her book has a minute and ten second cooldown 😭

[warm lily]

Also, I ran into a bug where I still got 5 stacks of weaken

[vocal pulsar]

dw mid season patch, huge buffs and then all u see in the top 100 is velmas trust I can see the vision

[warm lily]

When the max should only be 3 now

[muted holly]

i dont want her to be meta, i just want her top B tier or something

[warm lily]

There’s 100 Velma’s?

[sour linden]

Can’t wait for Finn to be gutted

[muted holly]

mains? no

[vocal pulsar]

no only 99

[sour linden]

And all of a sudden Gizmo broken nerf gizmo

[warm lily]

I just want every character to be somewhere around the upper B to A tier level

Give everyone character some sauce and a few weaknesses

[sour linden]

Every top tier in waiting is basically a line waiting to be gutted

[warm lily]

There are too many people on the “nerf x character” train

[sour linden]

Fr

Stop nerfing everyone

[muted holly]

i mean, the top tiers have to be tuned down

[sour linden]

Just fix hitboxes

[warm lily]

Like I agree that certain top tier characters need some nerfs

[vocal pulsar]

I still think we should buff low tiers instead of nerfing everyone

[atomic otter]

Yea but her jab change messed up so many combos

[sour linden]

Well 👍

But not everything

[warm lily]

But like the focus should absolutely be buffing the low tiers to be somewhat viable

[sour linden]

Needs nerfs

[atomic otter]

They framed it as a buff

[sour linden]

Nerfs*

[atomic otter]

You can’t do IAD loops anymore

[muted holly]

thats a necessary change

[warm lily]

Good

[vocal pulsar]

yeah this, sick of hearing nerf this nerf that like how about buff this and buff that fr

[muted holly]

im not into nerf culture but the current top tiers definetly need tuning down

[hybrid nymph]

when's the Marvin-Velma meta

[atomic otter]

Void was not right 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️

[vocal pulsar]

yeah tuning down but not to a huge extent, they should be nerfed but at the same time buff low tiers

[vocal pulsar]

yeah lets just nerf everyone real quick

[atomic otter]

Marvin has many good combos

[warm lily]

Buff Velma, buff Jake, buff Jason, buff Taz, buff Rick, buff Lebron, and buff Banana Guard

[muted holly]

they just need to find a good middle point to balance around

[muted holly]

lebron and rick are fine

[sour linden]

Like I can agree Finn needs more whiff endlag

[atomic otter]

I never said that. There are high ranked characters who don’t need nerfs

[vocal pulsar]

yeah why am I not hearing this more than im hearing nerf is all im sayin

[atomic otter]

LeBron is not 💀

[sour linden]

But stop just asking to gut characters

[atomic otter]

Have you seen his damage

[warm lily]

Lebron needs to be less helpless without ball

[muted holly]

have you seen his stage control?

[hybrid nymph]

he was right in that the balance is being driven by people complaining on Twitter rn

[vocal pulsar]

yeah I agree not all need nerfs lol

[atomic otter]

Jab range is not that good

[muted holly]

its a disadvantage state for a reason

[warm lily]

And Rick kinda sucks because laser loses to everything and doesn’t hit half the cast

[atomic otter]

No one needs unnecessary nerfs*

[warm lily]

And he can’t kill until 140

[muted holly]

laser does have infinite ammo tho

[atomic otter]

But nerfs that are needed are good

[vocal pulsar]

ermm yeah I agree

[warm lily]

I’m not saying he shouldn’t be worse without ball. I’m saying he should be like T&J where without Jerry, Tom is still a character

[vocal pulsar]

Im not saying no nerfs at all

[warm lily]

Lebron is literally not a character without ball

[vocal pulsar]

only necessary nerfs

[sour linden]

The community just seems like they can’t agree what falls under this and what doesn’t

[atomic otter]

It’s not even his movesets without the ball sucks but that’s not his main issue

[muted holly]

this game shouldnt turn into brawlhalla where everything has been tuned down to the point playing passive is the only option

[atomic otter]

It’s the damage. I think he probably does one of the lowest

As a bruiser that’s crazy

[vocal pulsar]

true lebron tickles

[warm lily]

What’s his highest damaging combos?

How much do they deal?

[atomic otter]

#combos message
This was last patch so I don’t know if you can do it currently

[atomic otter]

80 damage with perks and 15 inputs

That’s about 5 damage per hit

[sour linden]

One of LeBrons strongest moves is up air right?

[atomic otter]

Is that the only move you’re gonna do in game?

[warm lily]

Dude I wish Shaggy had combos like that. I’d totally be in favor of lowering his damage in exchange for better combos

[sour linden]

No?

I’m just asking

[muted holly]

hes a beginner character for a reasob

[warm lily]

Shaggy’s best combo deals like 30 lmao

[muted holly]

velmas best combo deals 15

stop complaining

[warm lily]

I mean, Velma is a different story

[vocal pulsar]

thats too much

nerf her

[atomic otter]

Yea but Velma is way diff

[warm lily]

We already established she needs help

[muted holly]

right nerf her, make her heal the opponent

[sour linden]

ComplainVersus

[warm lily]

She’s at the bottom of the ocean at this point

[vocal pulsar]

velma should heal the opponent yes

[atomic otter]

Also up air does 7 damage with all damage perks

[sour linden]

Velma is doomed to 2s

[vocal pulsar]

she should actually get in the mystery machine with the opponent so they get a free ringout

[muted holly]

she doesnt have any combos at all in 2s

only jab combos

[sour linden]

Let Velma get in the van

And run the opponent over

[warm lily]

Like Gizmo

[muted holly]

honestly, that would be better then this autistic driver

[vocal pulsar]

wait thats actually kinda good

[atomic otter]

Tbh that doesn’t sound that bad

[vocal pulsar]

lmao

[sour linden]

I’m cooking

PFG put me on the dev team

Trust

[vocal pulsar]

put it in feedback fr

[atomic otter]

But it would get complained about so much

If your enemy is on the wall

[sour linden]

Gizmo has the same thing already

[atomic otter]

You can just jump of with down special

[warm lily]

People always complain

[vocal pulsar]

let velma have something at least lolll no one can complain

[warm lily]

You can’t please everyone

[atomic otter]

And even if you die too. Imagine if your 1 life ahead or at a high %

[vocal pulsar]

I remember in like the alpha velma was most broken, and it was like her and taz, ahhh memories yk nostalgia

[sour linden]

Fr

[warm lily]

If Velma had an extra stock in 1v1 and 2v2, would she still be bottom 1?

[sour linden]

Yoo what if while the van is out chasing the opponent you could get into the van and have like Wario side special

[warm lily]

I’m guessing probably yeah

[sour linden]

And just charges at them?

[warm lily]

Velma van tire items

[sour linden]

When it explodes?

[warm lily]

Yeah

[sour linden]

That’s actually kinda fire

What if the tired caught on fire when you throw them

They don’t do much damage

But a lot of knockback?

[warm lily]

Dude Brawl Wario bike tire combos were sick back in the day

[sour linden]

I might be cooking

[warm lily]

So much that you lit the tires on fire

[sour linden]

Fr

[atomic otter]

S tier

Extra stock is way too op

[sour linden]

Fr

[warm lily]

Maybe in 2v2

But probably not 1v1

[atomic otter]

In 1s too definitely

There is already a Velma in masters getting 3-0 on good characters

If they had 4 stocks they would make top 100. 💯💯💯

[warm lily]

Dude there’s what like 1 maybe 2 Velma’s in masters?

Honestly let them cook

I haven’t seen a Velma in 1v1 yet

[muted holly]

saying that like i am not doing that :🥲

[atomic otter]

Oh yea and Velma’s in high ranks 3-0 top tiers

💪

[muted holly]

thats better

[leaden shell]

I’ve heard that, but that would mean everyone I beat is WAY better than me and everyone I lose to is way worse than me but it’s usually close games so idk

[calm herald]

Me either I actually wanna fight a Velma at least sometime

[warm lily]

I’m waiting to finally see some Velma in 1v1 absolutely cook me and skill diff me

[calm herald]

Same here

I already know i'm an at least decent Velma

[warm lily]

Honestly, I might pick up Velma in 1v1 just to see how everything feels from a bottom tier character’s perspective

[calm herald]

Ive been adding things to my gameplay which has helped me improve a lot

I at least wanna grow more as a player

[muted holly]

if you have footage, feel free to send it to me and i will try my best to give constructive feedback

[warm lily]

I always find it good to play lower tiered characters at the very least on the side to learn how to play better without the tools or high or top tier characters

[atomic otter]

Helpless

[calm herald]

I'm actuall trying to put together some clips from my ranked matches yesterday (which i'm still trying to figure out) so I can upload them

Meant to reply to Lucid

[atomic otter]

I played reindog when people considered him low tier. But it turns out everyone was wrong and he was just underplayed

[muted holly]

in clips you mean (almost) full games or..?

[warm lily]

Yeah I know I downplayed Reindog

He’s actually a solid character

[calm herald]

Oh full games

[muted holly]

aight thats good

[calm herald]

Usually I start recoeding my matches during the perk selection screen

[muted holly]

if you dont know how to put them together, i use clipchamp from the microsoft store which does the job

[atomic otter]

I just do 15s clip

[muted holly]

i do 30s clips with shadowplay for like, cool combos n whatever and shadowplay recording for full games

[atomic otter]

Oh yea for full games I do 3 minutes

I would do 2 but the ps option is only

15s 30s 1m 3m 5m and the rest idc

[muted holly]

you have an actual record thing for full games

if you use shadowplay atleast

[atomic otter]

I don’t think I can do it

Im on console

[muted holly]

ahh yea then you cant

[atomic otter]

Wait can I ask? Do u use keyboard

[muted holly]

i play keyboad and mouse

but since my mouse broke and my new one hasnt arrived yet i play full keyboard temporarily

[atomic otter]

Can u do IAD on keyboard or is it impossible

[muted holly]

i can, for me it is Z+D/Q + lmb/j

[atomic otter]

😬 tf is this

[muted holly]

z= up
Q and D = left and right respectively
lmb and J = attack

[atomic otter]

But that’s actually cool

I didn’t even keyboard could

[muted holly]

keyboard can do everything controller can

in some cases less accurate but everything is possible

[warm lily]

More precisely too I’d imagine

[muted holly]

some things yea

[atomic otter]

I thought IAD wasn’t perfectly diagonal. Well for controller it aint

[dry fulcrum]

i play controller just because playing keyboard for any extended period of time hurts my hands hard

[atomic otter]

It’s more like a 70-80 degree angle

[muted holly]

its a tricky timing to get down but it gets consistent

[warm lily]

I can’t ever be comfortable using a keyboard for movement and stuff

It’s the reason I don’t play FPS games on KBM

[calm herald]

Can I use it on mobile?

[muted holly]

if you've played brawlhalla before, iad is a similar input as dlight reverse nair on gaunts: hard to get down but consistent once you get the hang of it

[atomic otter]

J - attack reminds of brawlhalla

[atomic otter]

Oh I guessed it

[muted holly]

i copied my brawl controls

[atomic otter]

What was ur rank

[muted holly]

2400 peak

[atomic otter]

U still play? Or fully switched to multi

[muted holly]

actually 2480 i think if i remember correctly

i still play but less then before

[atomic otter]

Same tbh

It’s getting boring

[muted holly]

and rn i dont because i cant play brawl without mouse

meta has been the same for over a year now

[atomic otter]

Dlight Nair I can only do on gravity cancel

It’s so hard asf for me grounded

[muted holly]

its tricky to get at first but it gets consistent

[atomic otter]

Brawl don’t even nerf or buff 😭. “Take or leave it” ahh game

But I like it this way

[muted holly]

brawl sees wu shang ulgrim in the 2s meta for years, then they decide to nerf cannon once again

[atomic otter]

I loved cannon before the rework so much

[muted holly]

i still love it

but its so bad in 1s currently

[atomic otter]

But I’m ass at the game I just get high plat like every season. I think before I stopped to play multiversus I was 1953

[atomic otter]

Who did you play?

[muted holly]

i have a large character pool

https://corehalla.com/stats/player/8948682

[atomic otter]

For 1s

[muted holly]

look for yourself ig

for 1s i mainly play sidra, onyx, seven, brynn and jhala

[atomic otter]

Damn two cannon characters 60+

[muted holly]

i think all of them are at least level 25

maybe isaiah isnt

[atomic otter]

https://corehalla.com/stats/player/15461094

Yup it’s pretty bad for how many hours I got

I don’t even think I played ranked this season wait

[muted holly]

only 2s it seems

obvious blasters main i can tell

[atomic otter]

Yea.

[sour linden]

Bring back infinite leveling up for characters man

[atomic otter]

I play Lucien in 1s

Don’t mind the Reno. I got him high and continued to play him until I dropped

[muted holly]

you just randomly decided to drop him when you were having succes with him?

[atomic otter]

They put me in a 5 minute time out 😭

#clips message

[muted holly]

phhahaha

had the same thing earlier by saying p1ss3s

[atomic otter]

I would say I was doing good but I can’t get past mid plat with him.

I think on Reno I was just playing his blasters mostly and just throwing away his orb

But on Lucien I play all his weapons

[muted holly]

i mean on sidra i also throw away sword except for when im looking for a kill

[atomic otter]

I like his sigs I think if I get better on orb I will try to climb with him. I got beat hard by a Valhallan ezio on orb

[muted holly]

was it clockwork?

[atomic otter]

Just a random customs bro. I was tryna get happy beating trash people after a ranked lose streak

I don’t remember the name

[muted holly]

fair enough

[atomic otter]

What Valhallan farms goes on customs 😔

Go in experimental 🙏

[muted holly]

experimental sucks

[atomic otter]

Or ranked but I guess sometimes u don’t feel like it

[muted holly]

either i play ranked or i find a sparring partner

[atomic otter]

For me ranked, ranked 2s with randoms or custom vc on the Brawlhalla server

[muted holly]

i am never taking kids from brawl disocrd into 2s anymore

supposedly 2500 got hard carried by me multiple games in a row, proceeds to call me ass after 1 loss

[atomic otter]

Yea sometimes it’s annoying

I only play with them if they are atleast 1800+ in 1s

But now with placement 1800 isn’t a big deal anymore

Legit one of my friends was like hard stuck 1500 and as soon as ranked placement dropped they got to plat in that season

[muted holly]

elo got inflated by that

[atomic otter]

Rs

It took me so much games to try to get to high plat before placement

[muted holly]

thats why 2400+ only rewards you with 4x less elo then usual

[atomic otter]

Only for me to win 8/10 and get 1920

[muted holly]

placements didnt even fix the smurfing problem

[sour linden]

Wait nvm it’s still a thing lol

[muted holly]

funny how the velma thread has turned into anything but velma stuff

[atomic otter]

Yea fr

[atomic otter]

The only thing to talk about Velma is how trash she is

Buff recommendations

[muted holly]

fair enough

[sour linden]

Literally

I come here just to chat with people cause yall are literally the least toxic people here

Velma and Garnet mains lol

[dry fulcrum]

Velma discussion is literally that soyjak and chad meme:

every other main "I CANT STAND BEING A MID TIER PLEASE BUFF US"

Velma mains "she sucks", "we know."

[muted holly]

now that you mention it, i have never seen a velma tbag or salt taunt or do anything toxicity related

[sour linden]

I support Finn nerfs

Just give him more whiff endlag

In general

[atomic otter]

“WE GOT A USELESS BUFF, [character] DESERVES A REAL BUFF” 👀👀👀

[sour linden]

Or make him do less damage overall

[muted holly]

i just want him to be less annoying

[atomic otter]

I wouldn’t be surprised if no one got a nerf because of what void said 🤦‍♂️

[muted holly]

everyone plays finn in the same annoying way and it annoys me like nothing else

[sour linden]

lol

[sour linden]

I’ve literally been forcing myself to change it up

Approaching differently and stuff

[atomic otter]

Finn can literally throw an attack facing another direction and you still wouldn’t be able to hit him

[sour linden]

KamenRoses made me completely change my playstyle

[sour linden]

Legit

[muted holly]

yup, finn has way to little endlag for velma to punish, idk about other characters tho

[sour linden]

I’m a Finn main and I literally want them to give him nerfs

Please

Tune him down

Force him to be combo and combo extension off of dodge read based

Not just throw attacks like an idiot

Until it works

[atomic otter]

The rp difference with rank1 and rank 2 is crazy i wonder how he plays Finn

[muted holly]

probably the same but he grinds more

[sour linden]

Oh Flacoco?

Yeah I know him

[atomic otter]

Yea

[sour linden]

He literally told me he sleeps 3-5 hours

[muted holly]

flacoco doesnt close the game ever im convinced

[atomic otter]

So he’s considered the best mvs player now

[sour linden]

Bro we were in a vc in a server yesterday night

It was hilarious

[atomic otter]

Oh hell nah

[sour linden]

Mf has the biggest ego I’ve ever seen 😂

[atomic otter]

Void said he plays the game like 13 hours but this is worse

[sour linden]

It turned from playing Multiversus to a literal roasting session

Yeah no he doesn’t close the game lol

[atomic otter]

Ngl, it’s justified

I would say he’s probably the best

[sour linden]

He is

Most likely

[muted holly]

he didnt even top 8 the last tourney i saw him in

[sour linden]

He did an iron man challenge and I don’t think he lost once

Even with Velma

And he was fighting an arya

[muted holly]

wth is iron man challenge even

[atomic otter]

But I do think if your reallly good at the game, whereas you win majority of your games then top 25 is definitely just a grind gamemode

[sour linden]

Win with every character

[muted holly]

oh that cant be that bad

[sour linden]

Velma:

[sour linden]

Literally lol

[atomic otter]

Who did he lose with?

[sour linden]

I forgot

[muted holly]

velma most likely

[sour linden]

It was some mid-high tier lol

[muted holly]

damn

[sour linden]

Nah he won with Velma

Against an arya too

They were both last stock and high damage

[muted holly]

i mean most arya mains are clueless if you expect their dtilt

[sour linden]

Yeah lol

[muted holly]

nerf that move and they will call her velma tier

[atomic otter]

That dude came from no where and became #1. I think if any of the top 25 played as much as he does it would be very close

[sour linden]

Funny thing is I’ve seen him in the Lostgriff server since release of the full game

He kinda always been cracked

[atomic otter]

Yea

[atomic otter]

How does he sound like in vc👀

Nerdy?

“Finn jab into downtilt in iad sair into jab into uptilt into victory” - 🤓

[sour linden]

Yes lol

I won’t outright say his age cause I’m not trying to get into trouble or something

But he sounds young as hell

[atomic otter]

😂

[sour linden]

Literally sounds like a 5th grader

5th-6th

[atomic otter]

Bro needs to get into a lot of tournaments to pay off his future college debts

[sour linden]

Fr

[atomic otter]

“And my perfect position and combos is why I’m the goat” 👶🤓

[sour linden]

Lmao

Think like the anime and god on my side kid

But a tiny bit deeper

[atomic otter]

😬

But I would love for him to carry me in 2s 😂

[sour linden]

lol

[atomic otter]

He probably has a notebook where he writes down Finn combos 100%

[sour linden]

Yeah he can go toe to toe with Skemor’s Finn

Bro is the avatar of MVS but with a larger ego

[tidal onyx]

What are the mini perks y’all usually use?

[sour linden]

Probably pugilist?

And likely last stand but idk I don’t play Velma 🤷‍♂️

[muted holly]

nonono never use last stand on velmer

[sour linden]

Oh

[tidal onyx]

Ohh okay I’ve been making that mistake then

[sour linden]

My bad

[tidal onyx]

I’ve been using last stand on her for awhile and I’ve been losing a lot lol

[sour linden]

Ignite?

I should probably switch off of collateral damage

[muted holly]

my perk set: knowledge is power, flammable, collateral damage and armor killer/pugilist depending on the matchup

[sour linden]

Would you say last stand is better for Finn over collateral?

[tidal onyx]

Also is studied like any good?

[muted holly]

finn doesnt get any use out of collateral

[muted holly]

terrible perk

[tidal onyx]

Fairs

[sour linden]

Alr ima switch it then

[muted holly]

van is useless against opponents that arent drooling toddlers

[tidal onyx]

Lemme switch off static idk why I had that 😭

[muted holly]

what does that even do????

[tidal onyx]

0 clue ngl

[muted holly]

😭

[tidal onyx]

I thought shocked meant they get stunned so I was like oh bet

💀

[sour linden]

It makes you spawn with one clue

Which is basically useless

[muted holly]

nonono, it is completely useless

atleast you get use out of clues with Knowledge is power

[sour linden]

Lmao

[dry fulcrum]

i just use Well Rounded because its something i'll always get use out of, even if not much

[sour linden]

Fair

[muted holly]

i hope they buff knowledge is power to 4 grey health or maybe even 5

[sour linden]

Fr

She needs it

Literally 😔

[muted holly]

nahh im quitting mvs i found the game of all time

"i am jesus christ: prologue"

[dry fulcrum]

been playing Marvel Rivals to deal with my want to play competitive heavy games, picked up Hulk which because he's a melee tank means i'm at the mercy of my DPS and healers to not suck

[muted holly]

problem is, i cant play any competetive games because i am mouseless

[warm lily]

Competitive Monopoly

[muted holly]

nahhh

i have found the game of all time

i am jesus christ

[dry fulcrum]

i play on controller so stuff like that aint a huge deal for me

(playing a hero shooter on controller probably isnt ideal though

[muted holly]

i mean, if a controller bnreaks you straight up cant play anything

if either keyboard or mouse breaks you can atleast do something

[warm lily]

Depends on the shooter

[warm lily]

My Xbox controller has bad stick drift and a broken right bumper, but like I still use it lmao

Tbf it’s about 10 years old, so it’s probably time for a new one

[muted holly]

thats not completely broken

[warm lily]

That’s what I’m saying

[muted holly]

my mouse straight up doesnt left click anymore

i mean it does like 1/10th of the times