Stripe

[sweet carbon]

He's too easy bro

Would take a fraction for the effort Ive put into stripe

[limpid ore]

BTW I really did a 0td combo as Stripe, but I doubt it's usable in any given match: #clips message

[sweet carbon]

It probably would work most of the time with manual down special. Most players spam dodge in fear of revolver so TNT sometimes catches

[limpid ore]

look what we have to do to mimic a fraction of their powers

[sonic parcel]

No way that’s actually really good as hell

But the only problem would be the uptilt 2x into dynamite

[limpid ore]

of course it only worked because of the well timed explosion, biting it would lose time

[sonic parcel]

Yea that’s what I was thinking. I will try it out in ranked when I’m home

[limpid ore]

then again, even untrue, it's worth trying it for mind games

but admit it, did you expect a rick roll or something?

[sonic parcel]

I thought you was gonna send a combo that was very diable

It I was proven wrong

[limpid ore]

Like this one I randomly pulled off once: #clips message
But I only offer quality content, or the lowest forms of humour, no middle grounds

[sonic parcel]

Yea that combo is sick

I can barely pull anything in 2s 😭

[limpid ore]

I only play 2s, so I'm not much of a combo-er since there it's maybe more important to know when to disengage.

BTW, I'll ask again: what inputs do y'all use for IADs? Circle or R2? Do you have a dedicated neutral dodge button? Attacks with stick inputs or direction+attack?

[limpid ore]

another long awkward silence XD

[sweet carbon]

I have d pad and stick as movement so I can double press d pad for consistent dash attacks. Left bumper and right bumper are neutral shortcuts but I never use that for stripe lol mostly Arya. Circle/B is neutral dodge to mash parry faster and I have trigger for normal dodges. Everything else is default.

[hot pollen]

I became a Stripe main instead of Gizmo because auto win buttons are boring.
I like having to actually try.

(I miss beta Gizmo, but if it means Stripe is more fun now, so be it)

[sweet carbon]

Same... But after 80 hours of grinding this season I'm just tired boss

[hot pollen]

Well I don’t play that much, I truly only play ranked to get away from Mojo, pft

It’s just numbers that don’t mean anything to me

Every bit as meaningless as Smash GSP

[sweet carbon]

I know masters is possible but I don't know if I could make it at this rate. It's just up and down for me in diamond, don't know how other stripes made it through other than just outplaying opponents on a mind game level

[sweet carbon]

Still can't escape his voice lines 😔

[hot pollen]

I’m just proud to have made it to gold (only started playing ranked a couple days ago), I’d say hug yourself for being on diamond!

[round timber]

80 hours of grinding 💀

[sweet carbon]

Thanks :) honestly I've been thinking about just getting all the characters in gold until ranked gets fixed. Bronze to gold is pretty fun and you get badge progress to show for it

[round timber]

I think I played 10 hours since the season

[sweet carbon]

Had 120 for all of season 1 and nearly at 200 total only at a quarter of season 2

[limpid ore]

I was just thinking to put neutral dodge on circle and switch the actual dodge on trigger, even though my soulslike instincts tell me it's a bad idea XD

[hot pollen]

I only play because of love for certain characters. I’m not here for the gameplay or wanting to win, I’m here because the Gremlins movies are my favorite movies (and T&J my favorite cartoon).
If winning was my goal, I’d switch to Shaggy and be bored out of my skull.

[sweet carbon]

Sounds like a healthy and reasonable relationship with the game lol. My brain genuinely has a disorder with this game that compels me to get Masters when I might just not be good enough lol

[sweet carbon]

Trigger is soooo comfortable but will always be slower than a button. It'll be a trade off but just preference

[hot pollen]

I have a Stripe figure next to my TV and a Gizmo doll at my window and a T&J poster on my wall, my destiny was always clear.

[hot pollen]

I would only be compelled to get masters because I know seeing that would turn my girlfriend on ❤️

Nothing makes her love me more than seeing me wreck Finns lately

[sweet carbon]

My girlfriend says I complain too much and I should just quit ranked lmao

Can't wait for the Finn buff and lebron nerf next patch

[hot pollen]

https://youtu.be/TrRXc5IGMXg?si=Tj_1IkKni9AdpE2X

https://youtu.be/RpiBT3k7d1U?si=rt0Qhv-5TyZhkME-

[round timber]

Skull emoji

[hot pollen]

https://youtu.be/LdGfj5QT55w?si=uzQ8p6Rt186dP691

https://youtu.be/US5ZaIkdd2I?si=3F3ygQryjtxUZQhC

[sonic parcel]

Left stick diaganolly up
L2 to dodge
Then right stick for attack inputs

I use right stick just specifically for IAD attack moves

[limpid ore]

I dodge with circle (X) and use the right stick for everything.
The attack button is exclusively for IAD upward attacks (with stick I sometimes miss) and Taz dash attack (that can't be held on stick).
I might remove the neutral dodge on R2 and put a regular dodge so I can IAD up more easily.

[pine fjord]

Make Stripe nair do more hitstun ☹️

It would be so cool and funny

#combos message

Imagine doing stuff like that

[hot pollen]

I don’t expect buffs, I’ll just be happy to see them not nerf him again.

Or Finn buffs

[thorny crater]

nah stripes in a good place ngl they need to fix up his jank with gun and i think hes good

hes just bad compared to the really op cast like arya and morty

[hot pollen]

We think that, but we don’t know what the devs think

Or why they love Wondy or Finn

[limpid ore]

they probably don't wanna anger the dummies playing easy mode with those characters,
else they'll start waving their clubs and rocks.

[sweet turret]

He's a very balanced character in a game filled with unbalanced ones

[sonic parcel]

Stripe Balanced character??

I think he’s a bit too good to be called balanced cause of his combos

And early kills

[hot pollen]

Imagine killing in a fighting game

Madness

Mega madness, if you will

[sonic parcel]

I said early kills

[hot pollen]

You want matches to go on longer?

[sonic parcel]

🤦‍♂️

[hot pollen]

I got places to be

[sweet turret]

I have never killed with stripe below 120 unless you jab the opponent right at ledge

[sonic parcel]

I think a great example of a very balanced character is garnet

[sonic parcel]

That’s just you ngl

[hot pollen]

No because some of Garnet’s weaknesses don’t make sense. She’s underpowered, really

I don’t play her so I can’t talk on specifics, but I don’t see why she can’t have, say, more armor. Given how Wondy gets it for free.

[limpid ore]

Is that a Gremlins reference?

[hot pollen]

I lose to good Garnets and still can tell she needs help (and I doubt she’ll get it)

[sonic parcel]

2 or more armour moves isn’t that necessary

She has her combo that do like 50+

[hot pollen]

https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/783s.gif

But in seriousness, I’d rather not say ‘my main is balanced, you’re all just broken’. If he’s broken, whatevs, nerf him again I guess. But he’s fun.

[limpid ore]

I've been campaigning to have that dance as a taunt since before the release of Stripe

[sonic parcel]

Tbh I just say to ppl stripe is low tier and everyone who doesn’t play him agrees

I doubt stripe will get a nerf any time soon

[hot pollen]

I care even less about the meta in this game than I do Smash (and certainly NASB2). If the character’s fun and the weaknesses don’t feel egregious, I don’t mind trying to make it work.

Saying this as a K.Rool main, I’m used to being surrounded by downplaying. It’s boring.

[sonic parcel]

Especially After what happened last time. Unless people in masters or tournaments start doing crazy stuff with stripe that catches peoples eyes

Kinda like Morty before the nerf, nobody considered him S tier until they saw what he was capable off

[sonic parcel]

I was gonna buy NASB 2 weeks after release but many people said the game died so I changed my mind

[hot pollen]

Was he only nerfed in the first place because Void?

I also suspect the devs are scared of approaching what inane nonsense he was in the beta.

[sweet carbon]

The only broken thing about stripes is the bugs around gun and saw jank. He's fine. The 15 characters above him are the ones that need serious changes. Even banana guard kills me at like 80 with DI. Half the cast just explodes the other half of the cast so it's like picking hard or easy mode.

[hot pollen]

Nah, the community’s small compared to this one but much comfier. Has technical issues of its own but it makes me laugh more. Plus I love Jenny.

[sonic parcel]

Yea that’s how I feel about stripe very fun to play and doesn’t have much weakness as lower tiers

[sweet carbon]

Yes they are scared which is why gun was nerfed into the ground compared to how he was in beta

[sweet turret]

Y'all remember when he had multiple saws?

[sweet carbon]

And dodging gun used to so much harder 💀 skateboard was also broken

Hated stripe on release

[tawny valve]

should bring it back

[hot pollen]

I wouldn’t mind if it worked like Gizmo popcorn currently where it’s not on cooldown or ammo but can only have one out at a time

But am also fine with it as is

[hot pollen]

Are Wondy and IG the only characters to have lines for Stripe

[sonic parcel]

**Jab 2x - jump - neutral special - dair - jab 2x **
Is true #clips message

[limpid ore]

I've been abusing that gun spike all the time, and they told me I should hold the bullets XD

I honestly prefer to shoot the first chance I can, and by the time I reach killable damages I usually get them back anyway.

[sonic parcel]

Yea same honestly

As soon as they hit 90% that’s when I save for 3

[latent cave]

that was amazing nice

[pine fjord]

Stripe nair is actually good

Without buzzsaw

The little bite

[tawny valve]

no it isnt

[pine fjord]

Its good to break combos

If yk they are gonna swing and the combo isnt true

Instead of dodging

Use it

Puts target too

[hard sigil]

Got my #1 spot taken

Eh, gonna get it back real quick either way😃

[pine fjord]

🐐

[hard sigil]

Just on a vacation, what are you guys doing?

[limpid ore]

Trying to find a good partner for the last ranks to master in 2v2

I'm also trying to pull off my 0td in a real match

[pine fjord]

I just got a 0td

#combos message

For some reason he has 16 damage idk how he got it

[limpid ore]

16>0
Nice clip tho XD

[hard sigil]

Bro has the nicest clips ong

[pine fjord]

I only post quality stuff

[tawny valve]

not the goat

dw you'll get it back king👑

[sonic parcel]

Stripe finna get nerfed

This Finn got to be the luckiest players I versed #clips message 😭

[pine fjord]

If he does im not responsible

[strange swallow]

Can someone invite me to the Stripe discord?

[round timber]

There is a stripe discord and I’m not in it??

Crazy fr fr

[pine fjord]

Its dead

[sonic parcel]

Nah u are definitely responsible

Bro killed at 16%

[limpid ore]

Is there a reason why the boombox can't have some dodge frames like Arya roll?
The timing is so strict most hitboxes seem to reach you anyway.
Possibly a reason that isn't "we can't have nice things" XD

[sonic parcel]

Nah stripe has many nice stuff

But what could improve boombox way more is for the trajectory not to have much Di

Like who’s idea was it that Di away shoots straight up. Theres not a good follow up for it

[limpid ore]

I still would like to use it as a counter tool as well, kinda like Joker's handshake, but the risk just isn't worth running with all these huge hitboxes

[sonic parcel]

And since it’s already hard to hit and can be avoided in jab2x boombox ( unless stacked) they should atleast give us this

[sonic parcel]

Fr

[sonic parcel]

I think I went a bunch of games without using down attack

Definitely stripes worst move

[limpid ore]

I only use it at 30 something damage to do jabx2-down-uptilt, but even then it's a gamble. Just to use all my moves XD

but if it had a minimum of dodge in the jumping portion it could gain utility

[sonic parcel]

If jab 2x down tilt wasn’t Di able I would use

[limpid ore]

with the actual timing you can only use if the enemy is simply walking at you, almost any attack they can dish, hits you before the boom

[sonic parcel]

But i dont see it worth it damage wise

[limpid ore]

But then nobody can say I spam, because I used all my moveset XD

[sonic parcel]

I spam the same combo after 40%😭

Unless it’s heavy weight characters

[limpid ore]

stupid spammer

😜

[sonic parcel]

Combos like this never fail me 😔
#clips message

[limpid ore]

I still don't get why Tom can have a faster and disjointed jab going 4 hits long as a mage, whiel we have all that startup lag

[sonic parcel]

Ive been hating fighting TNJ since season 1 release

It’s so annoying that they play passive and the moment you’re close you get put in a loop 😭

The pain of fight a master Tom and Jerry makes you wanna stop playing

[limpid ore]

Didn't we lose a hit in the second jab with launch?
Now it's all a different game but do you think it's a positive or negative?

[sonic parcel]

Tbh in the beta I don’t even know what I was doing

I was just spamming attack in direction the enemy was 😭

[limpid ore]

lol I have a bunch of blurry memories, some even in black & white XD

[sonic parcel]

Only until season 1 was when I learned combos.

[sonic parcel]

I do remember superman just beating me so bad

Throwing me up

[limpid ore]

now that's something I can relate too.
also destroying Bugs rocket with an up special

[sonic parcel]

Yea

Who did you play in beta?

[limpid ore]

guess

[sonic parcel]

Wonderwoman?

[limpid ore]

Nah.
Now, for how much I love guessing games, I don't wanna flood the thread but I didn't change one bit and played Stripe ever since.

[sonic parcel]

Oh u been a day one main

I mained reindog

Had him 24 or something

Then gizmo and Steven as secondary

[limpid ore]

I still haven't bought Steven and LeBron, I could and can but... pass

[pine fjord]

He is mid tho ☹️

[sonic parcel]

So was LeBron

[sonic parcel]

And they have something incommon

Lebron and stripe both have true combos that do 60+ damage (normal weight>)

[pine fjord]

If they nerf Stripe again imma be flabbergasted

He got gutted 2 patches in a row

Then “buffed” him in the next

The buff did nothing

[sonic parcel]

Probably not but he is definitely the closest mid tier for a nerf

[pine fjord]

😔

Dont nerf the mid tiers

[round timber]

how do you guys deal with taz?

and also, how do you hit uptilt dair consistently?

my opponents always dodge out of it

[pine fjord]

I think its weight and percent dependent

[round timber]

i see

using it when it's not true is sooo risky

i get punished hard everytime

[pine fjord]

If you dont have your buzzsaw

If your dair misses you can nair them

The little bite chomp

If they are still near you

Just as a little get off my tool

[round timber]

oh ok i'll try

and do we have a good counter for jerry?

not the whole character, i mean jsut the jerry throw attack

[peak phoenix]

nope

dynamite with 5% or boom boom bounce one shots jerry, and skateboard hit + kickflip kills jerry too

nothing in the kit one shots jerry with 5% and all the dmg perks besides dynamite

[pine fjord]

I personally use skateboard to get rid of jerry

[sonic parcel]

Normal weights and low weights starts at 30%

Heavy weight is definitely higher I think 70-80%

[round timber]

and i think the combo is undodgeable earlier if they DI to the side

as long as you guess which side they DI

[tawny valve]

I use dynamite

pretty sure it one shots him

[serene pendant]

Hey, can u guys help ?

Im coming back to the game and Im still a Stripe main, Im doing pretty good but I need recomendations

[round timber]

Ask your questions here

[serene pendant]

Okay thanks

Well firtly I wanna know which perks do you think are the best for him

Now Im using the tnt one and the others are default

Then there are a few things I wanna know about the attacks, the attack with his legs, u know when he kicks like a horse, I can't figure out how to perform it

[pine fjord]

You can do an instant dash attack

You double tap forward then press the attack button

Usually to do the move you need to hold forward for a bit then attack

[serene pendant]

Thank you very much, do u also know perks I could use ?

[limpid ore]

The "Boom boom" is pretty much the best signature perk.
I then have 2 sets: one general and one for tanks.
Boom, snowball (or flammable), 100, pugilist.
Boom, weaken 125, dash armor break, pugilist.

[serene pendant]

Appreciate it a lot thank you

[limpid ore]

Maybe you know this, but the Boom perk is better used launching yourself diagonally downward, trying to hit the enemy with both the explosion and your second headbutt after the bounce.

[sonic parcel]

am I the only stripe who uses collateral damage 😭

Every else uses 100 I might have to switch

[limpid ore]

that's because you like that dair too much XD

[sonic parcel]

Fr

Doing Ground spikes does like 90% of my damage 😭

[limpid ore]

I prefer the chance of weaken killing a bit earlier over the extra 1 damage on spikes.
If anything more attacks can benefit from that.

Then again I play only 2v2, so that might weigh on my decision

[sonic parcel]

Oh yea for 2s 100 is definitely the go

[limpid ore]

I like having to look at a truckload of stuff going on at the same time XD

If I could play Abathur in HotS, I can do this too XD

[serene pendant]

Didnt knew ! I still try to figure it out lol, cause I dont know howto control it

[pine fjord]

This character is so silly

#combos message

[late sentinel]

And people don’t think he’s top 10

Stripe is so frickin cool

[round timber]

Diable tho

[tawny valve]

he isnt

[late sentinel]

he could beeee

[hard sigil]

Just needs a buff

[sweet turret]

Does stripe have any good ways of quickly killing Jerry?

[pine fjord]

Dynamite with boom biom bounce one shots him

Skateboard is also a good option

[vocal rampart]

Guys the reverse gun shot di mix up its back

Its really strange that nobody its using it

I should master how to do it

Like i khow, but you khow to get it consistent

[sweet turret]

Thanks, managed to 3-1 a tnj with this one

[pine fjord]

Anytime

[loud solstice]

@latent cave Did we play and you found me in the server to @ me? Jesus dude please take care of yourself.

[late sentinel]

Lmfao weirdo

Does this Jake pfp even play stripe or they just came here just to do that

[sonic parcel]

I definitely see him as low high tier

Top 5 heavy combo characters for sure

[late sentinel]

I would call him A on my best day and B+ on my worst

[sonic parcel]

Yea 100%

I definitely think he’s low A

But everyone seems to disagree

So I just stick with B

[late sentinel]

You can have your own opinions don’t let others sway you if you can back it up

[sonic parcel]

Yea true.

I have played many characters before stripe but I feel like he’s one of the only characters who can consistently get 60+ on mid weights

[sonic parcel]

Well actually batman can aswell if you count his jab2x IAD sair loop. Somehow that thing ain’t diable

[late sentinel]

The thing I like about stripe is that he gets to reset a lot and the chainsaw is a bit more over the top than it’s given credit for imo

It feels like his options create a lot of advantage states and neutral resets and it’s just refreshing to feel so in control

[late sentinel]

#clips message

[west path]

HI I'm interested in playing stripe. Any good tutorials or B&Bs i should learn?

[pine fjord]

You should know how to do iad dair

Basically you wanna hold ↗️ or ↖️ direction then dodge

And after you dodge you do down air

This allows stripe to combo all of the cast constantly

You can perform: Jab Jab IAD dair up tilt

As a basic combo

After up tilt you can dair to continue it or up air

Gun spiking on stage with 3 bullets is also a nice way to start a combo

Gun spike into up tilt or jab

[sonic parcel]

Jab Jab IAD dair uptilt jump gun(spike) dair uptilt (follow up) AHH character

[pine fjord]

Pretty sure this just kills if you do reverse up tilt

[sonic parcel]

Maybe this is enough damage to start the dair 2x bounce on normal weights at 0

[sonic parcel]

I haven’t tried it but stripe has so much sauce

[pine fjord]

Will def kill gizmo

Ive been wanting to hit this for so long

Jab jab iad dair jab jab iad dair up tilt gun spike insta dash attack

Its true

Ive hit it before but it didnt kill

[pine fjord]

29 gold dabloons for whoever hits this

[sonic parcel]

I fumbled on the uptilt after I got the loop 😔
#clips message

Normally I wouldn’t go for gun but I was so nervous for some reason

😭

[pine fjord]

btw

When you iad dair you should fade back

Makes the jab after more consistent

[sonic parcel]

He Di away a lot in the first set

It’s her to hit fade back when they di away

[pine fjord]

#combos message

[sonic parcel]

Damn that’s crazy asf. Man if I did up tilt I could spike him down

[pine fjord]

Idk why but Jack is the easiest to combo consistently

[pine fjord]

Doing iad reverse dair helps reset the combo

Ao they dont escape

[sonic parcel]

Yea Ikr

I think semi big hitbox normal weight

[pine fjord]

Yeah

Harley too

She is perfect weight

Jack, Finn, Morty, Gizmo, Harley

[sonic parcel]

Isn’t she light?

[pine fjord]

All easy to combo

[sonic parcel]

Yea fr

[pine fjord]

Think so

[sonic parcel]

I stopped doing the dair bounce on the big characters

[pine fjord]

Problem is getting a good combo starter to hit on finn

[sonic parcel]

I just do gun bounce instead

[pine fjord]

Ts just doesnt work

You gotta just rely on jab jab iad dair jab

[sonic parcel]

Yea it’s pretty annoying

I thought I was doing it slow at first

[pine fjord]

Thats why i hate heavies

[sonic parcel]

Yea this would have not killed one shaggy 💀 #combos message

[sonic parcel]

At one time I only relied on fair bounce and that’s how a superman messed me over

[pine fjord]

I rarely do dair jump dair

I like getting the up tilt after

So i can just uptilt kill them

[sonic parcel]

Like if you don’t have bullets and you hit a uptilt you have to finish it off sadly

[pine fjord]

Never seen fair ground bounce

[sonic parcel]

I meant dair

[pine fjord]

Nah up tilt 2 kills mad early

And its very consistent

[sonic parcel]

Like maybe 110 or 120 on heavys I’m not sure

Not Jason and iron giant btw

[pine fjord]

Explodes mid weights at 90-100

[sonic parcel]

Yea I’ve only started doing that recently

[sonic parcel]

Man the communitys propaganda actually made me believe stripe was C tier 😭😭

[pine fjord]

He is like B

Would be higher

[sonic parcel]

Definitely could

I would say high B

[pine fjord]

The meta rn cooks the living crap out of him

[sonic parcel]

What character can get consistent 60+ damage from an encounter

Maybe Batman but I see a lot of potential from stripe

[pine fjord]

True. Sometimes even death

Depends on what character you are fighting

[sonic parcel]

Ngl stripe is very close to a 0 to death not diable on mid weight and low weights

[pine fjord]

He pretty much can consistently do it

Just have to practice execution

[sonic parcel]

Yea. I think being able to loop uptilt dair2x is pretty sick too

#combos message
Gizmo got out of it tho so I think you can only do it twice on Di

[pine fjord]

You can jab after up tilt dair dair too

[pine fjord]

Def could have jabbed after

[sonic parcel]

I didn’t react to it fast enough

[sonic parcel]

Yea I gotta add that to my combo list

[sonic parcel]

Wait so is jab2x uptilt dair 2x loopable?

Well until the stage ends

[pine fjord]

Dair the other way

To loop them back around

But yeah if they dont bounce high you can loop it into jab

[sonic parcel]

That’s crazy got another loop

[pine fjord]

We living life

Until we fight a Finn

[sonic parcel]

Fr but Finn is just op

Jab jab gun dair jab jab IAD dair uptilt dair dair jab jab uptilt 2x (in theory I hope it works when I get homes) u can probably do way more aswell
First part is true #combos message

[pine fjord]

Ts woulda been sick af if you jabbed instead of gun

[sonic parcel]

Idk why but everytime I fumble a combo I have a habit of doing gun

I think it’s just because I don’t wanna get punishe

[pine fjord]

Idgaf at that point

I just think about the clip

[sonic parcel]

Nah in ranked I will just do gun

[sonic parcel]

I did this in casual tho

[late sentinel]

What are his worst matchups do you think? I really only seem to struggle against Finn and Arya. Everybody else isn’t too bad. I also kinda like the WW mu, she seems more than doable

[sonic parcel]

Batman

[sonic parcel]

I think ww is fair matchup too

[pine fjord]

Batman, Finn, Joker, Gizmo, Jack is annoying but easy to combo so it isnt as bad, Taz, Reindog, Shaggy

Taz and Rein are like slightly losing

[sonic parcel]

Yea I hate going against gizmo

So basically the losing mu are just going against the best characters in the game

[pine fjord]

Uhhh

Kind of

I think he loses to others but idk

Like Marvin and Rick are annoying POS

[sonic parcel]

Marvin is the worst to fight😭😭😭 even if you up special there’s another projectile coming

I play passive and dynamite the whole time

[pine fjord]

Yeah it kinda just sets you up for failure

[sonic parcel]

Crazy how you can spam the bubble so much with Marvin

[pine fjord]

Even then your dynamite will just trade with any projectile

[sonic parcel]

Basically a shield

[sonic parcel]

I remember when people said Marvin takes the most skill in the game. These mfs just spam 💀

[pine fjord]

Playing a bullet hell game in a platform fighter

[sonic parcel]

Fr

Oh yea and I forgot the down tilt 😭

[pine fjord]

Cant even skateboard his projectiles cause of that move

[sonic parcel]

I just realised how Marvin counters stripes whole moveset

No wonder it’s so annoying to fight them

And neutral attack isn’t even a 50/50 when going against a projectile

[hard sigil]

Having the #1 title in rank doesn’t mean nothing😭 it’s just a grind fest

[tawny valve]

yea I realized that a week ago and stopped playing when I was rank 10 now I'm rank 30

it's wtv

[sonic parcel]

Bros tryna cope after losing the title ☠️

Nah I’m playing enjoy your vacation

[hard sigil]

Nah just busy with college rn

[sonic parcel]

Top 100 they probably all the same skill level as masters 5 players but they just play way more

[tawny valve]

ngl multiversus is so boring rn i play like 2 matches every 2 days

don't even want to grind ranked

[pine fjord]

Im still diamond

lmao

[late sentinel]

wtf happened #clips message

[sonic parcel]

I said masters 5

[sonic parcel]

Losing a ranked set like this is crazy, game is very bugged 😭

[late sentinel]

A wise man once said: we take those

[sonic parcel]

I would be tweaking so hard

[sonic parcel]

You CANNOT make this up #clips message

I had 2 bullets how did that not hit smh

[pine fjord]

Been a bug since launch of the game

[hard sigil]

I’m locked tf in

Check my stats in Multiversus tracker. IGN Mrdarknightt

26-3 rn

Trying to get my #1 spot back

[tawny valve]

you got it king

[round timber]

lets go im diamond

[sonic parcel]

Lol stripe double dair getting patched

And what about stripes gun bounce into dair?

😬

[north trellis]

Just get a tech read lmao

I’m loving this patch, the biggest thing that made me upset about the gun dodge cancel nerf was how much skill expression it removed, now we’re getting some skill expression back through tech chasing which is an awesome change in my book

[sonic parcel]

Lol ur funny

[north trellis]

Why is it funny?

[sonic parcel]

Double dair into:
Upair gone
Sair gone
Uptilt (definitely gone unless they tech behind)

This also messes stripes long combos

Stripes advanced combo game requires groundbounces

He will be a average 5> hit character 😃

[north trellis]

Why not double dair into airdodge down jab to catch the roll

Sounds like you might even have more routes to take

[sonic parcel]

Diable

[north trellis]

If they hit the ground then they’re forced to tech, and you can follow them

[sonic parcel]

Double dair into jab isn’t true

Oh wait nvm

[north trellis]

Even if this change hurt stripe, it’s a huge improvement for general gameplay and game health by offering more options in disadvantage and advantage, this patch is a fat W

[sonic parcel]

U have to tech but it will be dodgeable

[sonic parcel]

Tbh I don’t really care about double dair, I’ve been wanted that shi nerfed along time ago

But stripes combos rely on ground boucnes

Affects him huge

[north trellis]

The tech change only starts on the second ground bounce in a string, how often does that really happen besides double dair? I genuinely think that this might make IAD loops even stronger by grounding the opponent after the second dair, meaning you don’t need to rely on poor DI from the opponent but a good tech read from the player to continue the loop

These changes increase skill expression across the board and considering how mashy this game can feel I love that they’re moving in this direction

[sonic parcel]

Jab 2x iad dair(1) uptilt dair(2)

Literally his true bnb after jab

[north trellis]

Okay, read the roll and get another jab after the tech on the ground

[sonic parcel]

Or even jab2x gun(1) dair(2)

[sonic parcel]

“Just read the roll”

Jab after dair is unreliable

And after inspecting the range of roll you can’t hit uptilt

And animation isn’t that long to dodge after

“Just read” is easier said than done

[north trellis]

Dude I’ve been playing platform fighters for years and sometimes you just need to get good. Tech chasing is such a huge part of other platform fighters and I’m glad they brought it to this game

[sonic parcel]

“You need to get good”

[north trellis]

Lmao alright man

[sonic parcel]

Mf the tech isn’t even in the game

How you gonna say read the tech on something you having witnessed ingame

And it isn’t even reading that’s called a reaction 🤦‍♂️

[north trellis]

How are you gonna say that you can read the tech on something you haven’t witnessed in game

I’m trying to be positive and enjoy a patch that is overall good for the game

[sonic parcel]

When you realise dair into uptilt was only true because of the bounce hitstun come back to me

[north trellis]

Alright man

[tawny valve]

I always use the when my opponents are clinging on the edge

90 percent success rate

[sweet turret]

Damn we basically got nothing this patch

[eager plank]

is there a stripe character discord

[sweet turret]

Dynamite cooldown reduced and that was basically it

[pine fjord]

We lived this patch

But im wondering where tf are the gun bug fixes

[thorny crater]

atleast he didnt get actual nerfs along with the groundbounce being gone

really suprised they buffed him at all with those existing

[pine fjord]

Yep

[dim loom]

we need a skeleton stripe skin. i’d send an image of a gremlin skeleton if it let me

[verbal adder]

They buffed the gun a bit too i thought

[sweet turret]

They didn't touch gun this patch. If anything with the new tech thing gun into down air no longer gets consistent followups I think

[shell plume]

Js glad he didnt get nerfed

[pine fjord]

IAD dair > instant dash attack is so good #combos message

[tawny valve]

fought a fellow stripe main in ranked and bro salted and tbagged me when it's the first match and didint even end I 2-0ed him😭

[red galleon]

💀

I hate people that use the salt emote like that

It was a huge mistake giving the salt emote out for free

[sonic parcel]

Yea he’s a rookie in toxicity

Everyone knows you should only be toxic when you are 100% certain you are going to win your second set

Don’t even be toxic if he’s 100% hp on his last life and if your 0% on your last life

[sonic parcel]

Not worth it just be toxic after win. 😃

[pine fjord]

I only tbag friends or people who do it first

[round timber]

I tbag everyone

[sonic parcel]

Same except customs

[round timber]

Depending on the character they’re playing

[sonic parcel]

It’s a force of habit

[round timber]

No way I’m respecting taz

If you play Velma, I’ll tbag because you’re mad your character sucks

If you play stripe, I tbag because youre getting stripe diffed

[sonic parcel]

Nah she’s cheesy now

[sonic parcel]

#clips message

[sonic parcel]

Oh yea and close match wins is garaunteed tbag

[hard sigil]

If you want to see me fight the #1 stripe watch PerirZX vod from yesterday . Time stamp 1:46:24. I was getting g whooped at first because I hopped on the game without warming up💀

[late sentinel]

So we top tier now

[tawny valve]

no

[sweet turret]

I wish

[hard sigil]

High B tier at least

[late sentinel]

Lemme dream

[sonic parcel]

If stripe was high b after ground bounce nerf

Those that mean he was A before 👀

[cloud maple]

Idk i feel like out of all the characters stripe probably works with ground tech the best

[north trellis]

I agree, Ftilt is slow but it’s not too slow to catch a tech roll and it’s big enough to catch people as well

[sonic parcel]

Yea true but he could do more without

[cloud maple]

Duhhhh

Everyone did more with infinite bounces

[sonic parcel]

So if he’s high B was he A tier then?

[cloud maple]

But most of stripes routes leave him in a pretty good state to catch a tech

[sonic parcel]

I always thought he was low A imo

[cloud maple]

No he'd be around the same place

[sonic parcel]

….

[cloud maple]

Ripping the cooldown off the individual dynamite was pretty good

[sonic parcel]

You agreed that he could do way more

60+ of a jab consistently mid weight>

[cloud maple]

Okay

Is any character in this game currently able to use a route with two bounces

No

[sonic parcel]

What’s your point?

[cloud maple]

With someone like superman that matters more but like

Stripes placement in the game hasnt changed

The games power ceiling is whats changing

[sonic parcel]

Can you still do 60+?

[cloud maple]

Joker cant rip double pogo stuff anymore he's still around the same place as he was prepatch

[sonic parcel]

Yea because his main long combo game doesn’t rely on bounce

Big diff

He’s a ladder character

[cloud maple]

Boohoo we're doing like 40 instead of jokers 40/50

[sonic parcel]

Are you arguing just to argue?

[cloud maple]

We can kill at like nothing and still have pretty good tools

[sonic parcel]

You have dismissed 60+ 2 times

And mentioning different characters

But it’s fine I can’t be asked

I wanna watch a series

[cloud maple]

Im gonna do it again

Whats happened to superman

[sonic parcel]

3/10 ragebait bro, would have been more believable if you didn’t constantly bring characters which the ground tech was literally intended for.
Stripe just got caught in the cross fire 🤦‍♂️

[cloud maple]

Its a different game dawg

[cloud maple]

Very interesting point

Still as strong as he was like 48 hours ago but very interesting

[sonic parcel]

I did not say he wasn’t strong

Was that the point of my first take

[cloud maple]

No i know you didnt

[sonic parcel]

No?

[cloud maple]

Nice one

[sonic parcel]

I simply said so was he stronger before the patch

Or low a from high b

[cloud maple]

What happened to that series

[sonic parcel]

Got to move it to 6/10

[cloud maple]

Uhuh

Claiming something as ragebait doesnt inherently damage the argument lol

[sonic parcel]

What argument bro 💀

What is there to even argue

[cloud maple]

A lotta characters aint seeing the same numbers, overall power has in some sense

Changed

Stripe works with the new system changes pretty well to make up for the lower uninterruptible damage

Win-lose

Badabing badaboom

If you dont wanna see it i really do not care

[sonic parcel]

What even is the point of this

Your yapping about stripe still being strong this patch

[cloud maple]

Yeah thats it

You got it!

[sonic parcel]

So what does this have to do with my main take

[cloud maple]

Okay so

His placement

On the games tierlist

Wouldnt have changed from where it was before

[sonic parcel]

Simplified version of this argument:
Demo: stripe was better last patch and since he’s high B would he be low A last time since he could do double dair loops and 60+ from jab

You: Stripe works with the new system changes pretty well to make up for the lower uninterruptible damage

[cloud maple]

Yes

Something some characters cannot say for themselves

[sonic parcel]

You win

[cloud maple]

Cool

[round timber]

im getting much more gun bugs

like i just hit a nair, i use my gun and it shoots the aire

in front of me

they dont even dodge or move

im losing so many kill confirms it's crazy

[tawny valve]

yes

the bullet just decides to not do its one job

[round timber]

this feels like playing sea of thieves

because the hit reg is so bad ahahhahaha

[cloud maple]

Ehhhh we're missing a few things

[tawny valve]

void just kicked my ass in ranked

done playing 1s ranked

[round timber]

i played against a diamond 3 beetle juice

people have no life

how do you guys hit arya?

in neutral

who is thi sgeneral oxide stripe

[sonic parcel]

Upspecial never fails me 😤

But I always keep a dynamite just incase

Aryas like to play passive/baity but with the jab priority this is so much better now

[round timber]

no??

the jab keeps having priority over my upsecial and skateboard

i susually dont use skateboard because it sucks but i thought it would be good since the jab nerf

but it still has no priority

[sonic parcel]

Maybe she outranged the skateboard and hitbox reached you first than her.

But I can’t explain the upspecial one

[round timber]

weird

you down for some spars, demo?

[sonic parcel]

I can’t play until like September 3rd 😭

[round timber]

ohh why

[sonic parcel]

Vacation I wish I could play this patch

[round timber]

ohhh

nah bro

enjoy

[sonic parcel]

And see that tech

[round timber]

you're not missing out

[sonic parcel]

Beetle juice looks so goofy asf

[round timber]

welp i got dimaond IV

i hate him

[sonic parcel]

I hope he’s not a problem

[round timber]

he is

[sonic parcel]

Nicee

[round timber]

my WR is getting lowering

only like 62 now

im only playign against masters for some reason

[sonic parcel]

Btw I heard apperently you can do dair into dynamite true today

Cant wait to abuse that 😭

[sonic parcel]

Yea the match making is crazy

[round timber]

ye

now im just tired of gun bug

it's crazy

[sonic parcel]

Jab jab uptilt dair dynamite 30%

[round timber]

i can't hit people

[sonic parcel]

It still doesn’t hit??

[round timber]

yeah

you click the button and it shoots the air

dont even have to dodge

i play agains tanother stripe earlier

[sonic parcel]

Im happy that they buffed the cooldown. I loved spamming that shi

[round timber]

i got gun bugged every single time

[sonic parcel]

But not hitting people on a free kill is annoying

[round timber]

i couldnt kill him he was at 170

and even to approach

it wouldn't hit

whilst his was working

i think it's realated to movement

because he had very good movement

[sonic parcel]

Bro there was one time I was using gun 2 bullets counted as one or something. And I’m 100% sure I had 2

[round timber]

same

[sonic parcel]

Gun just feels so weird

[round timber]

it happens a lot ur not crazy

[sonic parcel]

It would have been enough to kill 🤦‍♂️

[north trellis]

For me I have to really lean into a bait and punish gameplay style against Arya, a lot of Arya players get really trigger happy with their dodge attacks, so if you dance in and out of her threat range to bait and attack out, you should be able to punish it

[void wedge]

I swear, fixing the gun bugs would increase Stripe's win rate by a few %

[pine fjord]

Yeah its so annoying

There are like 5 bugs with it

[round timber]

yep

[tawny valve]

skateboard is a high risk low reward move don't even bother using it

[round timber]

Oh I know

I never used it

I wanted to try it out to see if it would be any good after the jab nerf

But no

It ducks

Sucks

[void wedge]

it can be useful for punishing bad projectile usage sometimes

[pine fjord]

I love skateboard

[round timber]

Yeah, but most of the time I would just use sideways up special

[hard sigil]

You guys need to run the speed perk

Makes the movement smoother for stripe

[shell plume]

I be using collateral dmg

Ngl

Stacks the dmg quickly with the dynamite perk

[dry hemlock]

I still dislike stripes dynamite perk

Its one of the sig perks that just feel like how that should work normally

Like harley's aimable boxing glove perk

[limpid ore]

Like, there's no real reason to use the dynamite on the ground without the perk.
Garnet has the shockwave on dair hitting the ground by default.

[sonic parcel]

Should we make a boom when stripe bounces with dynamite

Nah make it a perk

[hard sigil]

I like using the boom boom bounce perk

For the extra damage

[sweet turret]

Damn @north trellis think I just saw you on Bhand's stream

[north trellis]

yeah that was me

we do a little mashing

[sweet turret]

We love jab jab IAD dair lol

[sonic parcel]

Same and the boom radius is so good aswell less likely to miss the hit

[shell plume]

His Other Perk is js bad bro

[shell plume]

If it was acc like that it be lit

[dry hemlock]

I dont think ive ever seen his other perk's intended use

[short dew]

Yea they should make it so it reflects/reverses enemy projectiles similar to the button Marvin has or something to that effect, then I'd consider it in certain mus at least

[shell plume]

Id like that

He only has 2 perks rn besides the 5 perc 1

Im hoping he gets a new perk

Sum that can either be toward his gun his skateboard or his up buzzsaw

[round timber]

Guys

Imagine if down tilt was a usable move

Like a combo starter

[shell plume]

The crossbow move?

[round timber]

well there is only one down tilt

[shell plume]

Ig

I hope it does get buffed

[round timber]

yeah

it's a fun move

it's useless but i still use it for dodge in reads

[shell plume]

I want him to get buffs in his movee suck as his gun

[round timber]

but it'sn not optimal

[shell plume]

As well As His Buzzsaws

[round timber]

gun is fine but they just have to fix the bugs

[shell plume]

He used to have 2 in the beta

Now he knly has 1

[round timber]

it's alright

[shell plume]

Ye that

[round timber]

1 buzzsaw is fine

[shell plume]

Nah bro 2

Would be better

It was perfectly fine in the beta

I like having 2 js to apply pressure

Its js weird they removed 1 and didnt say anything abt it

[shell plume]

Should buff his up special

[north trellis]

I can generally always have something on me to keep pressure unless I throw buzzsaw like off a cliff

[round timber]

What

Up special is stripe’s best move

[shell plume]

Its the gun bro

His best move imo ngl

[cloud maple]

Up special has a bunch more uses

But like

Both some of the best parts of his kit

[round timber]

Oh yeah well apart from gun it’s upspecial

[peak spade]

I'm new to stripe what do I do with him, he seems to suck

[cloud maple]

Is there anything in particular you wanna know

[peak spade]

Everything ngl
He just seems weak an idk what to do with him
Idk any combos, how to kill, how to approach

[cloud maple]

Neutral is mostly using saw and fair, whiff punishing with dair or jab, dynamite still kinda forces interaction as soon as you get a hit you can run a read heavy game

His combo game is comprised of jab, up tilt, dair, up air and gun (as an ender or starter)

[peak spade]

Quick question is black Adam a bad matchup I can't win it for the life of me

[cloud maple]

If you do jab2 iad dair you can comfortably up tilt afterwards or at some percents, as long as they dont DI inwards, dash attack. Up tilt -> dair is a thing at mid to late percent depending on the characters weight so until that point you do up tilt up air and then pester them with fair/up b in advantage

Oh and up b is a great tool for like, making space and dealing with projectiles

[cloud maple]

Id definitely say it feels uncomfortable

If youre able to do jab iad dair jab iad dair or gun (downwards) dair, your opponent ends up in an uncomfortable tech situation which more often than not, nets you a jab starter

Saw is good for taking space via platforms or forcing people off the wall, it tacks on extra damage and can give you extra hitstun for cool stuff

[round timber]

Black Adam is 50/50

It’s a fair matchup but keep in mind that black Adam is a flat out better character

But the matchup is alright

[shell plume]

I feel like its 60 40

Dude can fly has that thunde clap move which kills everything

Alot of projectiles

He pratically can recover whenever he wants with his netural special

But stripe can take him on its js more of a chance ba has of winning

[dry hemlock]

I'd like down tilt a lot better if it was a little faster

It gets interrupted a lot

[dry hemlock]

Stripe does have struggles killing imo. He really doesnt have a ton of easy kill moves so it can seem a little futile in neutral

Playing stripe against someone who knows the stripe matchup is always difficult bc you cant just bait a up tilt

[round timber]

Stripe doesn’t struggle at killing

Dash attack nair is true

And end with gun

If you know they’re going to dodge the gun, do upspecial

[shell plume]

His upspecial ngl

1 of the few buffs i want for him

Make it a bit stronger

Cause its js BAD at killing not at racking dmg

Hell that up special leads to so many combos

[round timber]

I don’t want them to change up special force

It’s fine

And honestly when you can’t kill

Just run away and spam dynamite

[shell plume]

I dont think thats healthu ngl

U have to run and relie on the dyna js to ko

Hell if his upspecial had force and he could kill

It be better in that sense

[late sentinel]

I use down tilt in the corner sometimes

it doesn’t start combos but getting an opponent above you as stripe is all you really need

[hard sigil]

His up special is already good

[shell plume]

Not in terms of killing

Racking up dmg yeah

Combos yeah

Goodhitbox yeah

[hard sigil]

Use up air, up tilt

[shell plume]

Its like if his up special was marvin

But with no kill power

[hard sigil]

Up special is for combos

[shell plume]

Thats what i js said

[dapper lark]

Bro what more do you want from up special lol

[cloud maple]

It doesnt need to kill lol?

[shell plume]

Id js like it if it could kill better

Yall acting as if im asking for the move to be some

Broken

[cloud maple]

Yes

[dapper lark]

If it’s good for combos, racking up damage, and has a good hitbox, then it doesn’t need to also kill lol

[shell plume]

It wouldnt be broken

[hard sigil]

Up special never killed in beta, it was only use for combo extensions

[cloud maple]

"Why is asking for a button to do everything so absurd"

[shell plume]

Black adams clap in a nutshell

[hard sigil]

Trust me his up special is in a good spot

[dapper lark]

I’d rather them buff other moves in his hit like his dtilt

[shell plume]

I dont think up special is bad

Id js like if it had more killpower

But i agree with dilt

It should get buffed

[dapper lark]

They changed the knockback angle and it still doesn’t combo lmao

[shell plume]

I thought the move was js u hit and the opp goes above so u can up attack or u can use ur upper jab

But it js never works

[hard sigil]

A good buff for stripe would be able to have to ability to gun cancel again.

That’s it’s

[dapper lark]

Gun cancels returning would be awesome

[shell plume]

Nah idk abt that

Gun should get fixed for the bugs

[dapper lark]

But I don’t think they’re gonna do that

[cloud maple]

They never needed to leave 🗣️

[shell plume]

Gun canceling thats a wish i dont think they would ever do

[hard sigil]

I’m surprised they haven’t fixed the bugs

[dapper lark]

I mean, at least the took off 17 frames of lag from gun

[shell plume]

Id like stripe to have 2 buzzsaws js like they did in the beta

I like the projectilen alot

[dapper lark]

That might be a bit too strong ngl

[hard sigil]

Probably because buzz saws last pretty long

[dapper lark]

In 2v2 especially

[shell plume]

If it was too strong then maybe they make it a perk to where u have 2 but the seocnd 1 is weaker

And it goes away quicker

[dapper lark]

I wouldn’t be opposed to that I guess

2 saws but they don’t last as long

[shell plume]

His saws are so good

I love js chucking them

They do wtv

[dapper lark]

Saws on platforms are really good for space control

[shell plume]

Ive js been using saw

To bait jumps

And then up special

Or sair

Into gun

[dapper lark]

And the fact that they hit multiple times unlike Lebron’s basketball makes them even better

Honestly, if there’s one buff I wouldn’t be opposed to all projectiles having, it’s that after you dodge them, they should reactivate after like 2 seconds

[shell plume]

That be pretty cool

A buff id also like

Is stripe keeps 2 dynamite as usual

But the timer is removed

[cloud maple]

Can saw stop losing to literally everything

[dapper lark]

Nah I actually like the timer

I didn’t at first

[shell plume]

The timer is already much when ur using a move that deals dmgs towards u

[cloud maple]

The timer makes it a combo breaker/a better extender

[shell plume]

And ur limited to 2

[dapper lark]

But like using dynamite timer ending as a combo breaker or finisher is sick

[shell plume]

U could js do that even with or without it

But i get wym

Ive done that with or without the timer

[cloud maple]

Its different strengths

[shell plume]

With no timer u can js set up

I like setting up with saw then combos into dynamite

Because with no timer ur not pressured into having to do a combo or go on the offensive

[dapper lark]

I mean like you land a combo and use a finisher while still holding dynamite, but instead of just tacking on a little extra damage with gun, you explode into them to continue the combo

Plays like that are hype

[shell plume]

Thars true

[dapper lark]

The problem is that there’s never a reason to not be holding dynamite

[shell plume]

I can see the strengths with them

[cloud maple]

Yh it gives you things you wouldnt have gotten before

[dapper lark]

I’ll admit when I was learning Stripe, I absolutely abused dynamite

[cloud maple]

But i miss the eternal threat in neutral

[shell plume]

Idk abt that cause u can still probably do it

Its js probably harder

Cause ur using frames to activiate it

And the opp can js di

Or be in a place where u miss

[dapper lark]

Honestly, I’d say they should remove the ammo and cooldown entirely and just give Stripe more self damage

[shell plume]

Hes already the lightest

Assasian in the game

I rather not js

Take more dmg

[dapper lark]

Nah Arya and Harley are tied for the lightest

[shell plume]

Even so in that sense

[dapper lark]

Someone made a sheet with all the calculated weights

Stripe is on the lighter side tho

[shell plume]

Its like a hit or miss

With the dynamite

Timer

U lose set up but u gain the ability to do combos

And use it as a finisher

I js see it as a trade off

[dapper lark]

They could just make the timer a second or two longer to not pressure Stripe into feeing like he needs to use dynamite immediately

[shell plume]

Thats what i feel like

Tbh with the timer

It js makes u wanna use it

But u could js get punished and u would take dmg

At the cost of it

If they added a few more secs that be bettrr

It js feels like as soon as u pull it out ur either already expected to have combos done

Or ur js in a spot where u have to it

[dapper lark]

I mean, the hitbox for dynamite is so big and it’s a really good burst option to the point where I’d probably call it a neutral skip

[shell plume]

I use it mainly for

Recovering back to stage

[cloud maple]

The punish for bouncing and whiffing is also like

[shell plume]

Or js to pressure

[cloud maple]

For the most part, generous

[dapper lark]

Yeah I mean it’s a free recovery option

[shell plume]

Skateboard is way to punishable to appraoch

Dynamite u use it u can act quickly

After

[dapper lark]

Skateboard feels too high risk for the reward it gives

[shell plume]

Skateboard is hit or miss

[dapper lark]

I almost never use it

[shell plume]

I like how long the active frames are

[cloud maple]

Nah its tragic

[shell plume]

Cause u can do some goofy stuff

At the ledge

But i also hate as soon as u use it ur stuck at that anim and ur easibly able to get punished

[dapper lark]

I’ve found most characters can just hit you because you’re stuck at the edge of the stage when you use it at ledge

[shell plume]

Ive been able to js hit there heads entirely

[dapper lark]

And at worst, it’ll trade the first hit which has no knockback

[shell plume]

Or js there arms if theyw all jump

[shell plume]

I like using it

As a kill option

If im guranteed to hit

[dapper lark]

I can tell you playing as Shaggy, I’m just gonna up special and it’ll trade (which Shaggy absolutely wins that trade)

[shell plume]

Kills very early on the lighter cast

[dapper lark]

It is very strong

[shell plume]

Ive been usin it alot

Esp against projectile spammers

Its so good

Against tom and jerry

Gets rid of mortys grenades marvins projectiles

[dapper lark]

But like outside of catching dodges or going through projectiles, I feel it’s way easier to get punished for using it

[shell plume]

Ricks meeseejs lazer

[shell plume]

Its pretty netural ngl

[dapper lark]

This is like the only time I’ll use it

[shell plume]

Like its either u hit

Or u miss

Like the reward people will downplay but tbh its a food reward

U can js kill with gun at the top

Or now since they at the top u control center stage

And platform maps are good for stripe

So oppps csnt js go back to the platforms if u got a buzzsaw on it

[dapper lark]

So is something like Ganon’s warlock punch in Smash, but it’s so easily avoidable that you should be able to punish it every time

[shell plume]

In some sense or like

Incineroars

Side special

U can punish it cause of its range

But if u hit and u scueed

U get rewarded with a ko

[cloud maple]

Yeah except its like if the clothesline killed far later than everything else in your kit

[dapper lark]

I wouldn’t even say that because incineroar can use side special in the air, it’s faster on startup, it travels less distance, loses to projectiles, and the grab itself has grab armor meaning if incineroar grabs on the same frame someone attacks him, he wins

[shell plume]

The crazy thing bro

I dont even use stripes chainsaw anymore like that

[shell plume]

Thats true but u are stuck in that grab anim way longer

[dapper lark]

Chainsaw is good as a huge disjointed recovery option

[shell plume]

And ur opp can js attack u right after

[dapper lark]

But that’s the only time I use it

[shell plume]

Ive stopped ysing chainsaw ngl

Ive use it but sometimes to recover

Or edge guard

[dapper lark]

I’ll use it to recover and then dodge cancel it

Never land with it because it has so much landing lag

Honestly, the entire assassin class is kinda just combo demons with like one strong kill move

[shell plume]

Stripe has alot

[dapper lark]

Like the only early kill move of Harley is her up special and she kinda needs the party perk to get super early cheese kills

Arya is the same way with her up special to uair or sair being her only real kill option

[cloud maple]

Yeah but like shes killing off fair

[dapper lark]

I mean, thankfully not as early anymore

The 1.6x damage and knockback multiplier on her charged sair was kinda insane

[cloud maple]

Considering you get it for free as well

[dapper lark]

Finn’s only real strong kill moves are backpack and Beemo

[cloud maple]

Stripes got a fair bit

Kinda

[dapper lark]

Stripe has like skateboard and utilt 2

[shell plume]

U forget sair

His fair

[cloud maple]

Fair isnt killing

[shell plume]

And his jab

[dapper lark]

It doesn’t kill that early

[cloud maple]

Up air is

[shell plume]

Nah it does bro

[cloud maple]

Funny dynamite is

[shell plume]

On the sides it kills

Fair will kill

Im tellin u man

[dapper lark]

Uair is like decent at killing but nothing insane

[shell plume]

The amount of goofy kill power his fair has is crazy

[cloud maple]

Not really

[dapper lark]

Most of Stripes kills from my experience come from move almost killing at like 120 into triple gunshot

[cloud maple]

I mean its like

What gunshots there for

[dapper lark]

Yeah

[cloud maple]

Killing at 90 after up air with the correct DI mix

[dapper lark]

But like you can’t compare that to someone like Shaggy for instance who can kill early with every rage special, grounded up special, sair, and neutral attack which all reliably kill below 100 damage

[cloud maple]

Yeah

Joker killing at 60, black adam doing it at 20

[shell plume]

Well shaggy is shaggy

The guy kills early

[dapper lark]

Or WW who kills with sair, uair, up special, dair with meter, and neutral attack

[shell plume]

And does goofy shi across the map

Ww is cheesy

[dapper lark]

Or literally any Jason move

[shell plume]

Same with looperman

[cloud maple]

With what loops

But yh

For what its worth i think stripes damage accumulation can make up for it

[dapper lark]

Sair, utilt, uair, and neutral attack all kill early with nair, side special, and up special also killing absurdly early for edgeguards

[cloud maple]

Sair is not killing early

[dapper lark]

This is what I’m saying

[dapper lark]

I guess as an edgeguard because it has high base knockback, but yeah in neutral it’s not killing

[cloud maple]

Yh atp a lot of sairs would kill

And up tilt kills at like 100

Average 😭

[shell plume]

Nah looperman

Is so cheesy bro