Rick Sanchez

[nocturne crow]

You could really get creative with the combos but now you're not really doing much other than down air or forward air or whatever

[spring dew]

true

airwalker provides some shennanigan possibility after portal combo but it's too unreliable imo

[nocturne crow]

I loved to place the portal on the side of the wall when my opponent is recovering to f-air them into it then spike them with d-air but now it's not consistent at all

[nocturne crow]

Especially at the cost of losing parry

Only reason I'd never use airwalker

[spring dew]

yeah

understandable

[vague robin]

he got sauce

so im not complaining

they gave him better boxing tools

fart bomb is actually a good move

up b is solid

[real flicker]

what are the good sub perks?

also how can i confirm kills when opponents at high percent

[shut burrow]

side neutral (x1)
up tilt

kills around 110ish

[gilded cargo]

fr? feel like i cant ever land it

[shut burrow]

it can be a good edge gaurd tool

use it when someone's attached onto the wall

[spring dew]

Fart bomb is goated for ledge guarding

And since it has a slight delay, you could try using it if you know your opponent is running at you, and by the time they get to you, the fart bomb hits

[junior salmon]

Are u not able to set CD to zero

I wanna practice the portal texh

Tech

[carmine vine]

in training?

[junior salmon]

Yrp

[carmine vine]

just restart training mode

[junior salmon]

Ah that's annoying

[carmine vine]

welcome to any fighting game ever

also portal tech is really easy just press side special after 2 jabs

[zealous totem]

it works after the rocket as well on low percents i think

[nocturne crow]

It's DI and character dependent

[gritty lotus]

whatre the best rick perks?

[carmine vine]

thats flammable, collateral damage (or air walker if u like it) pugilist and or armor killer.

thats what i use

[pliant bridge]

wtf does Rick do against Jerry? none of his moves kill Jerry in one hit I believe and if I try to do 2 attacks I just get punished for it

[carmine vine]

pray

nah fr just put a meseeks on him and if tom thows anything at him it will kill jerry

[pliant bridge]

alright bet

[carmine vine]

and i mean golf club for meeseeks

[pliant bridge]

ohhhhhh thats sick I didn't think about that

will the uppercut from meeseeks kill him too?

[carmine vine]

ill check

[carmine vine]

nah hes too short but when ever tom throws jerry just put a meeseeks on him

and if it doesn't kill u get his projectiles so win win

down air in to up special also kills him but its a bit jank

[pliant bridge]

alright sounds good, appreciate the help

[carmine vine]

ye

[zealous trellis]

Then the tom can just punish you with cork tho

like yeah, if you can get that to happen, you should

but the tom can just cork from Jerry to hit you

and that might lead to an even worse punish

[fickle copper]

They ruined my boy rick, he was sooooooo good and fun in beta

And they took away his rifle

[vague robin]

??

[fickle copper]

His rifle when he shot his gun in the other outfit. @vague robin

[vague robin]

eh its not that big of a deal

[fickle copper]

It shoots slower.

Rifle was faster

[vague robin]

well i mean yeah

they cant have rifle shoot faster than what base rick shoots at

or thats just an unfair advantage

[fickle copper]

And his whole play style is trash now anyway, so i guess it wouldn’t matter.

Went from a horizontal beast to a vertical trashcan

[vague robin]

brother what😭

his ladders dont play around

and in beta he just had sair as a killing option

rick has better options now than he did in the beta

all thats really changed is that he cant use meeseeks as much in portal combos

but thats about it

[zealous totem]

honestly the only changes ive noticed compared to beta are
his charged up special isnt 2 hit anymore
side air isnt as strong (still really strong)
he teleports instead of single portal on ground

and they dont seem really

different to me

like it doesnt affect my gameplay too much

[vague robin]

up special has more knockback but doesnt spike anymore which is good

portal got better

[zealous totem]

whatre the changes to the portal

[vague robin]

you got portal on a shorter cooldown, it teleports the person instantly and you can catch people in mid air with portal more reliably

[fickle copper]

1. His rocket shoots people vertically 2) His charged up air barely hits people below him now like it used to 3) his meeks and gun is suppppper slow for whatever reason 4) his side air has 0 knockout potential now 5) the games speed is terrible so everyone feels like beta iron giant.

He was fine the way he was

They ruined my boy

[vague robin]

you mean the rocket on jab 3?

[zealous trellis]

1. rocket can actually be combo'd into

so it's a fair trade

[vague robin]

yeah

[fickle copper]

Yeah

[zealous trellis]

2. that's sorta the point

[vague robin]

up air has a much better hitbox lol

[fickle copper]

Nobody asked for that 😭

[zealous totem]

oh yeah i dont like the rocket launching upward, kinda seems off to see the opponent not go in the rocket's path

[zealous trellis]

3. universal change

4. false

5. again, not a rick-only change

[vague robin]

ty medium smoke

you a real one fr

[zealous totem]

side air is an insane move

[zealous trellis]

"My up air doesn't hit downwards"
Yeah sherlock, you just explained why

it's in the name

[fickle copper]

Well either way, beta everything was better, I know im not the only one who feels this way

Yall can cope as much as yall want

[vague robin]

speed was too unhealthy in the beta

[zealous trellis]

listen

just pick WW

you can button as much as you like as her

trust me

[fickle copper]

“Un healthy” 😭😭😭 to who?!?!

[zealous trellis]

all your goals are there

[vague robin]

for game health lol

dodge was a movement mechanic rather than what it was intended to do

[fickle copper]

Bruh, all people wanted was character balance and more characters 😭😭😭😭

[vague robin]

(dodge moves)

[zealous totem]

the only problems i have in this build compared to beta is the network errors

[fickle copper]

Not to rework the game

[zealous totem]

but beta was insanely laggy

[vague robin]

Beta had horrible servers

Unhealthy speed

[fickle copper]

Not on xbox

[vague robin]

Really bad hitboxes

[vague robin]

For you*
Majority of people faced real bad servers

[fickle copper]

Xbox servers are terrible on new server

[vague robin]

consistent 2 and 1 bar games

[zealous totem]

finn's up special in beta

[fickle copper]

I bet if they bought back beta mvs and kept this one up… this new mvs would have WAY less players

[vague robin]

finns gem was even worse

[fickle copper]

Yeah finns gem was crazy but why take it out. And i hated finns

[vague robin]

brother what💀

Gem was too strong

[zealous totem]

wasnt finn's gem just a teleport

[fickle copper]

Im speaking facts

[vague robin]

it was

[zealous totem]

what was strong about it?

[zealous trellis]

if you dodged the gem, you still get guaranteed hit by the side B

[fickle copper]

In the right hands it was very good but it took a certain skill to use em

[zealous trellis]

it made Finn incredibly oppresive at any ossible range

[fickle copper]

It required thumbs

[zealous totem]

oh

[zealous trellis]

not to mention, it was the only thing worth gold in finn's kit

B-mo was 1-use, speed up was negligible and the armored buns sucked

even without money, the apple was still an item he could throw to opress you from across the stage and to ledge-guard

[zealous totem]

damn

[fickle copper]

Game was fast enough to dodge it

[zealous trellis]

all that on top of being able to run with normals

[fickle copper]

Easily

[zealous trellis]

the break-neck speed

the janky hitboxes

and his kill power

it made finn really not fun

[fickle copper]

He needed nerfs but not that big

[zealous trellis]

they simply took out the item-play from finn

[zealous totem]

youre making it sound like finn is a bad character rn

hes still good

[fickle copper]

My point is, they changed the game so much from beta that the toons we practiced with and learned so much on, now require different playstyles and at a much slower pace

Fk that.

@zealous totem

[vague robin]

finns playstyle hasnt changed much💀

[zealous totem]

not much we can do besides adapt

i still find the game fun

[vague robin]

its not like what they did with the game was wrong im ngl

[fickle copper]

Shiiit or not play 😭 thats what i resorted to unfortunately

[vague robin]

you can actually whiff punish

[vague robin]

tbh tho an assassin with disjoints and item play is kinda insane

[fickle copper]

I wasn’t no slouch either, i was a top 300 rick

[vague robin]

okay

but

[zealous trellis]

Yeah, sorta the point, that's why people hated REAL hard on the gem

[vague robin]

the beta was fundamentally worse in a bunch of ways

you just got survivorship bias lol

[zealous totem]

also the beta had too many infinites, im so glad they got rid of that

[zealous trellis]

the main problem of the beta is that the whole foundation was shaky

[vague robin]

its foundations now are a lot better im ngl

so its not looking too bad

[zealous trellis]

the hitbox overhaul was something that was definitely monumental to do

[zealous totem]

yeah they just need to polish it up

[zealous trellis]

so they probably realized it's better to rebuild the game

[vague robin]

all thats really needed is balance tweaks

[fickle copper]

Idk man, i feel like its alot of copism going on

Copeism*

Its not a word but y’all get the gist of it

[zealous trellis]

sure

but I don't think you've identified the source quite yet...

[fickle copper]

The game is completely different and worse for the majority beta players and a lot of people were excited for it. So with that being said, lots of cope going around.

This is coming from someone who loves mvs too, i feel like they let too many people on their team.

[zealous trellis]

again, sure thing

I just don't think you've identified the source of the cope

but you're a smart guy

I'm sure you'll figure it out at some point

[fickle copper]

If you didn’t understand anything we spoke about for the past 30 minutes and cant understand my view, you cant be saved my friend.

Cope.

[subtle cradle]

Likewise if you can't understand infinite dodge/dodge jump/dodge jump attacks wasn't healthy for the game you can't be saved brother.

[fickle copper]

I guess I cant be saved 🥲 Game was fun while it lasted I guess.

And since you butting in, I was talking about his reading comprehension on coping.

[subtle cradle]

Just saying you went back and forth for a hour about how bad mvs is comparative to beta and all you've said was speed and that all your practice went to waste because of changes.

What happened to your apparent top 300 Rick motivation/drive to learn the character that's missing now.

Give us substance not general complaints and we can have a conversation.

[fickle copper]

The drive is gone. Along with other top players that I played with/ against in the Beta. The speed was the main substance of the argument. General complaints meaning what? Meaning the general population’s complaints? Thats a pretty big deal is it not?

[subtle cradle]

Its very apparent you don't know how to have a debatable conversation and you have made your mind up about the game so this is where I walk away from this. Enjoy your next adventure wherever it may land.

[fickle copper]

Way to insert yourself and not bring any substance. Ggs my friend.

#BringbackMVSBeta

[subtle cradle]

Looks like your looking to just start an argument when all I was trying to do is figure out the problem your having and point you in a direction that would lead you to enjoy the game again.

The game isn't better or worse as it stands and maybe its even a slight bit worse but with the implementations in place its in a good spot to improve whereas the beta version couldn't do that which is why it was rewritten.

[fickle copper]

Im sorry if I came off that way. I just feel like i’ve been 1vXing since I been in the chat. I want this game to thrive and be the best it can be, believe me, I wouldn’t be on a discord server ranting if I didn’t. I just wish it was closer to the beta is all, but it’ll never happen apparently, it’s not the direction they want to take the game and it’s frustrating.

@subtle cradle

I get why it was re written etc. doesn’t mean more fun though.

[gritty lotus]

ive been enjoying the game a lot more personally beta seemed to… idk? like melee ig?

everything felt sorta slippery

[carmine vine]

jerry dies to cork btw if meeseekes is out

[zealous trellis]

again, you missed what I'm saying

if you can put up a meeseek on him, good

but Tom can pre-emptively cork

considering Rick has to go on top of Jerry, stop, bring out meeseek and then set him to golf

[carmine vine]

yeah but they got to be really fast im testing it rn they have to do it befor u even press the button

[zealous trellis]

the tom player easily has enough reaction time

[carmine vine]

if rick presses first he wins

[zealous trellis]

that's without mentioning if you repeat the interaction several times

also, Tom doesn't exactly has to care for Jerry that hard in the Rick matchup

if Tom's not running the dynamite perk, he can stall long enough to get Jerry back

[carmine vine]

yeah but the question was how to deal with jerry since rick cant one shot him

[zealous trellis]

not to mention Tom's aerials can be a little scary to contest with Rick's

well, the answer to that question is that you really can't

not effectively, at least

[carmine vine]

thats why i suggested meeseeks bc he can counter jerry if hes ever placed

[subtle cradle]

correct me if im wrong but i think fart bomb 1 shots jerry if you dont get hit during the delay

[carmine vine]

i dont think so ill test it here in a sec

no it 2 shots

u can turn him into raindog tho. and so far the only move that one shots is fully charged up specials

big rick dair, big rick fully charged fair. big rick skis all one shot

those are the only one shots on jerry i could find

[nocturne crow]

I do agree with a lot of these points coming from the beta

I think the rocket not sending in the way it is going is very odd considering nearly all other projectiles of the type do (like LeBron basketball and Marvin jab)

I liked it for that reason because it allowed a lot of set play and made landing the rocket really satisfying

Being able to combo into it is cool and all but that made the jab lose its uniqueness

Gun seems to have become extremely weak and too much to commit for when most of the cast can just go under your shots

Meeseeks lost their strong kill power and I loved comboing Meeseeks Up into a follow up up air or something

I think his side air not killing like it used to is fine tho, move used to be busted and still has a pretty big hitbox (but not killing Harley at ledge at 130 is genuinely insane so maybe a bit of a touch up would be nice)

I think I've discovered more on Rick than I did last time I talked about him, but it still feels sad

I played him so much because I made montages on him, it really felt like his potential was infinite which is fitting for Rick

He no longer really feels like a "hard" character and more just like putting more effort into doing something other characters could just do better now

(I actually got Rank 1 with Rick in the beta if that gives any idea of how much I loved him in the beta)

I'm still trying to make him my main but ye that's my thoughts so far on him, giving him as many chances as I can give but I'm still dissatisfied

[fickle copper]

MY EXACT THOUGHTS!!!! Thank you, everyone else tried to make me feel like I was the weird one on this take. @nocturne crow

Even Bhands 🤣

[nocturne crow]

I think your thoughts are fair and so are the others, you can enjoy both characters it's just how it is

I think it's weird that they changed Rick so much to the point that he feels like a different character (to me anyways)

I've also seen a lot of other beta Rick players dissatisfied with new Rick

Rick seems controversial right now

[fickle copper]

Yeaaa, he doesn’t feel the same whatsoever. His playstyle was kinda the main reason I enjoyed the game

But it is what it is. Stripe dont seem too bad

[vague robin]

this is the only thing that really is unfortunate about the changes

and a lot of characters low profiling gun

he has more boxing tools now which is better

rocket on jab 3 works similar to marvins rocket in terms of how it knocks you up

its not really the worse thing in the world ig but it is a lil sad that they changed it

also I think meeseeks kill power was mainly due to stickler meeseeks im ngl

unless they changed meeseeks knockback as a whole and im js tweaking

but stickler meeseeks (the perk) let you kill a lot easier cuz it was easy to put people into hitstun in the beta with rick

so you were able to abuse it a lot easier

[hollow leaf]

They massacred my meeseeks

[gritty lotus]

idk if im just bad. but i feel like instead of ricks down special turning the enemy into the little reindog thing it should stun them like when you parry an attack

[vague robin]

eh polymorph is mainly just for 2s

[zealous totem]

rick's kill power doesnt feel too good rn

[carmine vine]

correct

[gritty lotus]

yeah feels like side air doesnt kill early enough, im really only able to kill with up heavy, up special, dash attack

in singles i feel like polymorph is necessary to get those early kills

[frozen vector]

His kill power is basically non-existant, at least that's how it feels.

Probably not true, but it just feels bad.

Can barely knock back with a charged missile at 110..

[zealous totem]

that too needs to be charged at 100 to kill

[frozen vector]

Meeseeks also does nothing, it seems.

[zealous totem]

uncharged dont kill until like 130 or around that

[gritty lotus]

ive killed with Meeseeks like once

it was an uppercut and charged up heavy

[zealous totem]

up heavy is the whip?

or the rocket jump

[frozen vector]

Exactly that. You can't kill with JUST Meeseeks anymore.

You NEED something else in tandem.

[zealous totem]

i get meeseeks not being a kill move because its a projectile but it doesnt even kill at really high percents

[frozen vector]

Side Meeseeks barely kills at 180 from what i gathered.

[gritty lotus]

yeah the whip

idk what theyre called in this game but i know it isnt up smash lol

[zealous totem]

theyre just called up attacks

[gritty lotus]

yeah i forget this game doesnt have tilt attacks

[nocturne crow]

Up ground is inconsistent because enemies keep falling out of the move for me

But it's usually the best kill option

That and jab jab side special (the skis)

[gritty lotus]

i feel startup on this is too slow and punishable

ive found use out of
jab->jab->down ground->up ground

it works on everyone but like gizmo up to around 70-80%

[nocturne crow]

Down ground?

How does that combo

Isn't that even slower

[gritty lotus]

if timed right you can input the whip attack like directly after with no endlag on the down ground

its definitely a less optimal kill option then what you suggested

[vague robin]

whip?

whip became insane hephaestus who got tweaked a bit

so now it opens up his combo game a lot

his kill power isnt the greatest but tbh i think thats fine

[nocturne crow]

I used Hephaestus but it doesn't feel worth it

It can also remove one of his only kill options

And anyways the damage from the fire portal is insane

[zealous totem]

gizmo might be rick's biggest counter

either that or im just bad

[gilded cargo]

watching the little jitt get his arrow reflected by golf club meekees is truly a euphoric feeling

[pastel aurora]

just got into playing rick and this character is so damn fire

[bold jungle]

hey

not sure if anyone else is having this issue but

when i was playing rick i wasnt able to attack

only shoot and rocket jump

i oculd send out a meskees or whatever their called but they couldnt attack

[slender isle]

a

Im just starting to pick up Rick as a 3rd character

Hes pretty fun

[slender isle]

What perks should I use? Are any of his character ones even good cause they seem alright at most

[vague robin]

both of them are good

hephaestus who is not bad and squanchin is also good too

[signal mulch]

Ohh my god dude u inspired me to play mvs last year especially at my lowest point. Ur videos entertained me ur rick videos were just satisfying especially i had no idea what u were doing

[nocturne crow]

thank you

[signal mulch]

I thought u had 100k plus subs or sum back then. Watched ur twitch

[nocturne crow]

Nah I never broke 10K subs

Appreciate you watching my Twitch tho I only just started trying that out

[signal mulch]

Np

[signal mulch]

When is rick GETTING SKINS man

[signal mulch]

I forgot how to use rick im cooked

I got too comfy with marvin

[vague robin]

toonverse

[vague robin]

portal shenanigans

[signal mulch]

Exactly i cant do his pirtak combos anymore

I mis input his up special

Hm

I really love rick I wanna play him. I just dont find him fun

He feels to sweaty to play

U cant be casually gud with him

Uve gotta he competitive

Last match

[vague robin]

then dont play him then

just play whoever you find fun

[signal mulch]

I find him fun again. I struggle with meta characters like banan guard

Mastering him is FUN

But the fart bomh doesbt work on good players

[nocturne crow]

Yeah fart bomb feels so slow

[signal mulch]

Not worth

[nocturne crow]

It's good when the opponent is recovering really low but a lot of the time they can just hit you before it even comes out

[signal mulch]

I struggle killing with up special when i do down air then up special. It doesnt hit when charged since they dodge

[nocturne crow]

I hate that they removed being able to summon a Meeseeks over the edge if you stood on the ledge

So then they'd slowly fall while you could command them

[signal mulch]

Somehow now I feel like his portal combos like jab jab jab portal doesnt consistently work anymore

[nocturne crow]

They really removed a lot of the complexities Rick had

[signal mulch]

Saw that on ur montage. It sucks

[nocturne crow]

It doesn't

[signal mulch]

It used to

Like i mean in the full release

[nocturne crow]

Character and DI dependent, if the enemy is good they'll just dodge the rocket

[signal mulch]

Usibg portal combos is quite hard

[nocturne crow]

And even if they do get hit by the full jab combo sometimes they go at too weird of an angle for the portal

[signal mulch]

I used to do it consistentky like jabjabjab portal

[signal mulch]

It goes up or slight angle

So jab jab jab portal isnt viable anymore. Its more of a flashy combo now

[nocturne crow]

If they go up and right you can just angle your portal up to continue the combo

[signal mulch]

But they need to be in a hitstun state right? Thats a really small window to do

[nocturne crow]

Yes it's very tight

[signal mulch]

I use dpad and sometimes it does the wrong inputs like up special since i do it so fast

[nocturne crow]

I use dpad as well

[signal mulch]

Meseeks isn't as useful as before

[nocturne crow]

Not even close now

[signal mulch]

How do u play rick? Like the new one

[nocturne crow]

You can't combo off them, they don't kill, no set up

Meeseeks is just a random projectile you throw out now

Sometimes to reflect projectiles too

[signal mulch]

I struggle alot since most of his movesets are very dependent on situations

[nocturne crow]

How I play him is just being extremely patient

Whiff punishing with his jab is really good

His best moves feels like it's the jab

[signal mulch]

U can do weird fast movements when u jump dash and nair

[nocturne crow]

Yeah it's weird

But his gun is so bad rn because like half the cast just go under it

[signal mulch]

His gun is risky sometimes

[nocturne crow]

And it's so slow to commit for

[signal mulch]

The stage is too small for it to be fully charge without gettint chase

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

[signal mulch]

They made the characters bigger which makes no sense to me

[nocturne crow]

I don't recall that ever being a complaint for the game

Just the floatiness and dodging I thought

[signal mulch]

It just makes the stages feel claustrophobic for characters like jake

Especially townsville

Did they remove meseeks perk?

[nocturne crow]

Yes

[signal mulch]

Rick's new playstyle is so not fun

The complexity of the character was what made him worth to master

[nocturne crow]

I think it's pale in comparison to what he was in the beta

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

Now he's just difficult to perform well with

[signal mulch]

I struggle to kill with him. Since I can't get my opponents up to do up special

[nocturne crow]

That's one of his biggest problems

His kill power is pretty bad

You can do jab, up ground

But half the time my enemies fall out of it

[signal mulch]

His only move to send people on too of him is fart bomb and down air but still it wont kill if it isnt charged

[nocturne crow]

And it doesn't kill till like 130 if they DI correct

[signal mulch]

One jab?

[nocturne crow]

Jab jab side special (skis) is also good

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

[signal mulch]

It still struggles to kill for me and dodgable

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

It's not fully true

If the enemy isn't prepared or DI'ing correctly you'll hit

[signal mulch]

Who do you main now then?

[nocturne crow]

I'm still trying to main Rick

[signal mulch]

If u did do jab jab side special if they dodge like to run away it wont hit and ur in a vulberable position

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

[signal mulch]

Rick and jake kinda have similar problems

So for now what can you say abt rick? Like tips and advices

[nocturne crow]

Uhhh

Not really idk, this Rick is just weird

If I were to give a tip it'd be to play someone else lol

I think a big part of Rick is to be patient tho

And don't spam gun it's not as good as it looks

[signal mulch]

#clips I used to do this combo consistently but I feels like I can't use it anymore

[signal mulch]

Well if u dont find rick fun u dont have to. But like rick is my fav character too and it's hard to let him go for me

[nocturne crow]

That's my problem

I loved him so much in beta

Ugh idk it sucks a lot of Rick players have felt the same

I WANT the devs to change him but I don't think they would

[signal mulch]

Marvin is still fun they also ruined morty and jake

[nocturne crow]

Yeah

[signal mulch]

Who's the next character for montage?

[signal mulch]

They said they will change the speed and zoom of the gameplay so it might affect some characters like rick

Anyways I'll wait for ur next montage. Honestly idc who u play

[nocturne crow]

I'll see!

[nocturne crow]

I appreciate that

[vague robin]

its a lot better tho im ngl

fart bomb lingers for a while

so its a lot better for ledge trapping

sure it doesnt got its original kill power anymore but i think thats for the best

it was a degenerate kill option that killed shaggy at like 130

[limber flame]

nah it was the disrespectfull kill option lol

[unborn sinew]

i cannot win against this character in 1v1s

only person i consistantly cannot win against 😭

[bold jungle]

Ngl ricks melee game is insane

[carmine vine]

yeah until your too short to hit

or have to break armor

[nocturne crow]

Hard disagree the move actually stayed after you got hit

I have never seen anybody call the move a "degenerate" kill option

Fart bomb is not the move I saw people complain about in beta lol

Up special and side air where the problem moves in beta

And it was MUCH easier to combo off of if you hit someone off ledge with it, it just felt more smooth to use

[zealous totem]

honestly i never used fart bomb in beta but i think its rick's best kill option rn

i havent tested it

i hit someone with fart bomb who was camping at ledge with 100 percent and they got launcehd into the sky

[ornate willow]

Ricks kindof a breath of fresh air ngl

Coming from marvin,jason

[tender ferry]

post rick combos in #combos pls and ping me

[ornate willow]

Got a bug just now where I could only do the first half of my jab1, but I could spam it insanely fast. Sounded like I was swinging a lightsaber around

[grave night]

Did ya'll know that Rick will always burp after his three-hit jab?

Just a neat detail I noticed.

[subtle cradle]

I've had it happen where he would never shoot his rocket in jab 3 but his animations would go off just no projectile. I was partnered with Superman vs black Adam and Stephen.

[vague robin]

wdym

fart bomb lingers a lot longer now

so you can get a lot more out of it than before

[vague robin]

up special was only a problem cuz you used to spike with it

fart bomb in beta killed at 130

[nocturne crow]

If you get hit it disappears

Didn't used to do that

[nocturne crow]

And?

[vague robin]

that was also a problem w it in the beta

fart bomb trades were stupid good

even better than uppercut meeseeks trades

[nocturne crow]

I genuinely never saw a complaint about that

You're the first I've seen complain about fart bomb

[nocturne crow]

Also not really the hitbox size and fast start up was also a problem

It sending horizontally or vertically or down whatever it was all insane

[vague robin]

thats what i mean

its hitbox size was outrageous

so it also meant you could spike

[vague robin]

im not really complaining about it, im just saying it was a lil too strong after tony buffed it

[nocturne crow]

So you're saying beta fart bomb was a bit too strong but the current fart bomb (which is more balanced) is "better"?

[vague robin]

it used to kill shaggy at 150 and after he buffed it, it killed shaggy at 130

you used to be able to trade with it too and it was also a really good ledge option

[vague robin]

healthier

[nocturne crow]

That's a better word

[vague robin]

you can get more things out of fart bomb now compared to before too

[zealous totem]

can you not spawn meeseeks off a ledge anymore?

[vague robin]

you can

you can even spawn them off the airwalker perk too

[zealous totem]

o

i might be not close enough to the edge, they kept spawning at the edge whenever i tried

yeah its still spawning them at the edge

im testing it in training^

[nocturne crow]

You can't spawn them off ledge

Idk why they said you can

They're forced onto stage

[vague robin]

HEH

THEY CHANGED IT?

i swear you can spawn them off stage using airwalker

[nocturne crow]

Airwalker yeah but it's not nearly as versatile as it used to be and way too much commitment

[acoustic estuary]

How good do y’all think Rick is. I personally think he is pretty good. His kill power was toned down but I think I could see potential meeseeks set ups develop in the future

[low fable]

I'm still learning him but I think he's got a lot of potential.

I get crushed sometimes but he's definitely strong. Pretty good at launching people out the top.

[tender ferry]

Rick has one great thing and that is his jab 1. it works as an anti-air and pulls opponents towards himself. other than that his kill-power is lackluster 'cause Mr. Meeseeks not KOing up to 150%, pretty much the same for side-air. he doesn't have access to combos when portal is on cooldown unless the person ur fighting is really dumb. Rick's gameplan is choreographed, but he can still make it work due to grounded down-special

[low fable]

Yeah that's what I meant to say

[bold jungle]

i played him and hes honestly my best performing character

yes, they lowered his kill power but its so easy to farm high % on an enemy so who cares

alot of the time i just use jetpack for kills since its so easy to bait people into jumping

[grave night]

Actually how do you make a portal without teleporting? I’ve been told you have to be grounded but, no, it still teleports me even while grounded. I’ve only ever got it to only make a portal by mashing the special button, and that’s only sometimes-

[limber flame]

you need to double tap

[grave night]

Ngl that feels pretty weird to me.

[tender ferry]

so can everyone else, they just do a way better job at it. there's very little reason to play Rick outside of being a character from a notable show. considering that they nerfed Reindog, Rick is also one patch away from getting gutted

[marble wadi]

Hi bois new rick main here

[fossil brook]

rick is bad, they nerfed him too much since release

[zealous totem]

itll be really annoying if they nerf him while he has basically no good kill options

[zealous totem]

no rick changes this patch

[marble wadi]

Yeah that sucks

Im gonna hit the lab later and look for new kill confirms

[marble wadi]

I feel like his edgeguard game is really good but it doesnt justify his kill power being so low

[tender ferry]

not enough people playing him. they did mention something that affects all characters (watching mirrorman) gonna have to see how that affects rick

[zealous totem]

what did they change?

[tender ferry]

one of them was the Airwalker perk. I forgot the other 'cause then Iron Giant nerfs through me off. harley quinn's slide distance got nerfed, that's good for us

[zealous totem]

Air Walker

Now limited to one use per airtime
Fixed an issue where attempting to spawn a platform would not consume an air evade
Fixed an issue where LeBron could not spawn a platform when he did not have a basketball

General

All characters now incur a 15-frame repeat-move lockout on their ground side attack combo. This will prevent individual fighters from alternating ground side attack and dodge to lock enemies in hitstun for extended periods of time.

no more jab loops for most characters

Gizmo

Gizmo’s maneuverability and size make him incredibly difficult to pin down. His movement combined with his incredibly strong zoning game make it nearly impossible for some characters to ever get the edge against him. These changes should help bring Gizmo’s evasiveness more in line with the cast so it’s easier for other characters to get up close and punish.

Ground Side Attack 2
– Dodge branch window delayed 10 frames
– Prevents terrain bounce on knockback
Air/Ground Neutral Attack
– On-whiff branch window delayed 8 frames
– Cooldown is no longer refunded on successful fire arrow hit
Ground Side Special
– Car HP reduced to 8 from 10
– Car explosion hitbox size reduced 25%
– Car maximum overheat duration reduced to 1.25s from 2s
– Cooldown increased to 18s from 15s
Air Side Special
~ Now always transitions to umbrella float if attack whiffs

THANK GOD

im so happy about this

they cant spam the umbrella anymore

and the marshmellows

[tender ferry]

yeah that. Rick is going up a little bit, not much though. Wonder Woman still remains untouched unfortunately

[marble wadi]

Dont worry guys im a lab monster imma make something work

[zealous totem]

it honestly feels like they forgot rick is even a character

[marble wadi]

Yeah thats kinda true

Also just on that note

But beside the efestus one ricks perks are kinda ass

And even that one is mainly combo food

After portal hits

[zealous totem]

i like the fire portal one

[marble wadi]

I find it kinda useless outside of 2v2s

It just doesnt do as much imo, mainly because efestus increases his damage potential off hit portals

[zealous totem]

if you can set up the portals well your projectiles damage is basically buffed when they go through portal because of fire

[vague robin]

squanchin is solid

hephaestus opens combo routes tho

[zealous totem]

im not 100% sure but i think there used to be a meeseeks perk in the beta thats not there anymore

dont remember what it did but i remember there being a meeseeks icon

[vague robin]

there was

stickler meeseeks was its name

[zealous totem]

yeaah

[marble wadi]

What did it do i dont remember

[zealous totem]

i just know i used it

[vague robin]

2x damage on meeseeks if the enemy gets hit by meeseeks whilst in hitstun

[marble wadi]

Thats amazing what

[zealous totem]

yes the damage buff

that was the best perk

[marble wadi]

Would make every air meeseeks combo insane

[zealous totem]

why did they remove it

[zealous totem]

not just air, timed hits with meeseeks would be so good

could probably make meeseeks a good kill option again

[marble wadi]

Also imma be real, id really love it if our down air was bigger

[vague robin]

ngl it probably wouldve been broken if it stayed in the game

things explode now so stickler meeseeks wouldve been abused a lil too hard

[vague robin]

it was a lot bigger but now its gotta be the most honest hitbox in the world😭

[marble wadi]

Also just in general

If somebody deserves a strong spike that kills consistently it should be ricks

[zealous totem]

yeah

[marble wadi]

Like bro this is edgeguard the character

How do we have a spike that sends nowhere

[vague robin]

dair that ignites

[marble wadi]

Id give up igniting all day over it being a better kill option off stage

Especially because its so hard to hit

[vague robin]

fair

[marble wadi]

Either that or make up special faster

So we can combo into it more

[vague robin]

he did lose out on a lil bit of sauce from the beta

but hes got better boxing options

jab is also stupid strong im ngl

[marble wadi]

Yeah jab is good

[zealous totem]

i still think the jab rocket should send horizontal instead of vertical

itll be x10 better

idk why they changed it, it used to be horizontal in beta

[vague robin]

eitherway its fine

[marble wadi]

I think letting us jump cancel as the rocket is traveling would also be sick

[zealous totem]

nah

[marble wadi]

Would let us charge a fair

[zealous totem]

thatd be the problem

rocket+ fair would be too good

also uncharged rocket should be true

every character has a true 3 hit jab

[vague robin]

i think you get a lot out of jab anyway im ngl

and is jab 3 not true?

[zealous totem]

no

[vague robin]

i thought charged jab 3 wasnt true

[zealous totem]

not always atleast

for me its really inconsistent

[vague robin]

whenever i used jab 3 it always ends up hitting

[zealous totem]

most of the time it just goes under the slimmer characters like harley or morty at mid percents

[vague robin]

ig the only thing you can do is use other options

imagine you were able to store charged laser on rick

[zealous totem]

that would be useful but useless for combos

no knockback and goes over most shorter characters

[marble wadi]

Jab 3 became true in the full game

[vague robin]

charged laser does knock people back what

[marble wadi]

Maybe at high percents it doesnt work

But you wouldnt really want it

[zealous totem]

i meant its knockback is really little

[vague robin]

ohhh

[marble wadi]

Its meant to be

[zealous totem]

yeah

i think its fair it has no knockback

[marble wadi]

So its was easier to hitconfirm off it

[vague robin]

laser is already really good anyway

[zealous totem]

im just saying combo wise laser is useless

[marble wadi]

I think it would be cool it we could do a lower version of the laser though

Like a low fireball

And alternate them

[vague robin]

low profiling laser gotta be the most annoying thing ever

[marble wadi]

Yep

[vague robin]

seen people just run head into lasers and not get punished for it

[marble wadi]

Also it makes no sense that every character with a good fireball never loses its strength

[zealous totem]

i think if they made laser lower to the point where it hits the entire cast would make it a good option

[marble wadi]

But rick gets weaker as it travels?

What?

Why?

[zealous totem]

honestly the bullet system with a bigger laser is better than inf tiny lasers

[vague robin]

the ammo system was only on charged lasers

[zealous totem]

yeah

[vague robin]

uncharged lasers were still free to spam

now rick doesnt have charged laser ammo system anymore

[zealous totem]

i mean the charged lasers are still tiny

[vague robin]

so hes free to use it whenever

[marble wadi]

Also

I know its a screen control tool and all

But down special is a gimmick

[vague robin]

its acc kinda useful im ngl

well mainly for big meeseeks

[marble wadi]

Yeah but thats like the one use

[vague robin]

(big meeseeks should be a heavy projectile)

[marble wadi]

Making rick big doesnt seem worth

[vague robin]

sometimes it is

[marble wadi]

Just makes everything jank

[vague robin]

but sometimes it sucks

you do get higher KB within it im pretty sure

correct me if im wrong

[marble wadi]

Yeah

But some moves become useless

Such as laser

[vague robin]

true

but ur only really using laser in neutral

and for openings anyway

[marble wadi]

I think it would be much cooler if rick getting hit by down special would make him faster

Give him new combo routes

[vague robin]

I dont think they gonna give characters buffs like what they did to banana guard

[marble wadi]

True

[vague robin]

• seeing an old man moving at light speeds is scary

[marble wadi]

I dont know man

I just have no idea how they could buff rick

I guess also fully charged up smash could be bigger

Make his conversion with efestus perk more consistent

[limber flume]

I think fully charged laser shouldn't get beaten by every other projectile

[vague robin]

eh i dont think he needs buffs im ngl

i do miss meeseeks being strong

but its fine

[marble wadi]

Im ngl i think he is very very meh rn

He is not bad

But he isnt good either

[vague robin]

not really a bad thing for the most part

[limber flume]

yeah some of the characters are so overtuned Rick feels kinda meh

not to mention he's hard to play

[marble wadi]

Its not that i hate him

[vague robin]

just wait for him to power creep

power creep will do him good

[marble wadi]

He is so hard to play and doesnt nearly have as much sauce as the rest of the cast

[marble wadi]

I think if they dont change him he will power creep to the bottom actually

[zealous totem]

i actually like rick's down special alot

[marble wadi]

I dont know how a character staying untouched will ever power creep to tol

[zealous totem]

if you manage to get an opponent to it, it could win you the game

they take much more knockback+damage when theyre reindog

its much easier to kill

[vague robin]

they will nerf a bunch of the characters at the top

rick isnt bad by any means rn

[marble wadi]

They still have access to dodge tho

[zealous totem]

i think just give a little more knockback to the stronger moves so we can kill earlier and gun should be a little lower

[zealous totem]

yeah

but its still a good option

[vague robin]

and the only characters that are kinda suffering rn is velma taz and maybe garnet and jason

[zealous totem]

velma got buffed

idk how good she is though

[vague robin]

still isnt gonna be good enough im ngl

they ruined velma so hard

[limber flume]

they're bringing more buffs with the next patch i believe

[vague robin]

well she needed nerfs

but they nuked her kit in the worst way possible

morty also got nuked but his mains have found stuff that make him work

[zealous totem]

never really tried velma so idk much about that

[zealous totem]

honestly i feel like ive never seen a bad morty player

[vague robin]

velma was the staple of 2s

[vague robin]

most of them arent half bad im ngl

but they did essentially make 3 of his moves useless

[zealous totem]

they removed the explosion from his down special

[vague robin]

Wine Portal doesnt speed up projectiles anymore
Plumbus which was already bad doesnt have weakened
Recall hitbox was lost

[zealous totem]

portal doesnt do anything other than recovery now?

[vague robin]

nah

[zealous totem]

damn

[vague robin]

all they really gave him was overtuned grenades + whip + jab attack but everyone gets it

[vague robin]

dont get me wrong morty needed to get nerfed

[marble wadi]

They really improved some of his kill options though

And there are some perks that make him busted

[zealous totem]

they also nerfed the grenades as projectiles

[marble wadi]

https://youtu.be/fLOzaSpdIr8?si=39FICxnMAh7JPbBN

[zealous totem]

if you hit the grenade

[marble wadi]

Look at this

[zealous totem]

the travel path is so much smaller before its not a projectile anymore

[vague robin]

grenades kill at unholy percents

[marble wadi]

They also just do a butt load of damage

[zealous totem]

morty combos are insane

[limber flume]

What's the best way to use meeseeks

[marble wadi]

Neutral, space control

[zealous totem]

pressure

[marble wadi]

Edgeguards too

[vague robin]

Zoning + Pressure

Use them a bunch in portal loops

[zealous totem]

i usually send a running meeseeks and follow it and do a whip because they usually jump over it

works most of the time

[marble wadi]

I usually throw them after a portal set

[vague robin]

same

[fierce canopy]

Rick has an infinite with his movement bug

[limber flume]

man i wish half the roster didn't just go underneath laser

what are some portal combos outside of dair, it feels impossible to hit sometimes

[vague robin]

portal charged whip jab

[gilded cargo]

yeah the struggles of rick being a tall king 😦

[marble wadi]

https://youtu.be/J4CikRaOaFQ?si=wC5DSpkJPQo-Y_38

Screw it, no kill confirms ill just kill instead

[bold jungle]

any pro guides or just good tips for rick?

im trying to be the best rick online rn

also it sucks that combos feel so hard to pull off on keyboard

[marble wadi]

Guys i need rick kill confirms asap or im actually gonna go insane

Im tired of losing to people much worse than me cuz they at 150 and land 2 moves and kill me while i still cant

Like i played this shaggy, parried everything, he doesnt die, then suddendly just does randomly 2 moves into a special move and i die

[subtle isle]

He is so fun. He surprised me.

[zealous totem]

i think the best option to go for when theyre at high 100s is dash attack

its rick's best horizontal move

[marble wadi]

That only kills at the ledge at that percent tho

And barely

Many heavier characters like super and black adam need like 150

And also his dash attack is kinda slow

[subtle isle]

The summon ability is tough to use if you try for the golf swing or the uppercut.

[marble wadi]

The uppercut isnt that useful

The golf club its a ledgetrap tool or something you place to later throw them into it

[zealous totem]

uppercut is decent for killing

[marble wadi]

Ig

[zealous totem]

whenever i see someone going for an attack and theyre high and i have low enough to where i wont die i trade with an uppercut

usually works

[subtle isle]

Yeah but sometimes the rocket jump is followed with it.😂

I eliminated a flying Superman with it was so funny.

[vague robin]

fart bomb into up special off ledge

[marble wadi]

The thing is though that i feel like ricks ledgetrap game its kinda too linear

He is good at it

But almost everything only covers low recovery attemltd

[marble wadi]

I found one

Down air to partially charged up special

You know you got the lvl 2 charge timing right when it does a bit more damage

It kills superman at 90

If you do it from jab2

[vague robin]

fair enough

[zealous totem]

for the love of god i cannot get it out of my memory not to go for rocket and go for portal instead

[acoustic estuary]

lol

Yeah I don’t ever try to use portal off of jab

I personally like to use it a bit more creatively

[zealous totem]

how do you use it

[acoustic estuary]

I like to use it for projectile set ups and occasionally into combos.

A simple example is an aggressive shaggy is approaching and I throw out meeseeks in front. So they jump over to hit me but I use portal to swap me and the meeseeks and they get hit.

So like baiting aggressive players works really well

[zealous totem]

oo

that seems like a good tech

thanks

[acoustic estuary]

I wouldn’t consider it tech exactly but yeah it’s pretty good.

It can also set them up to be hit afterwards which is nice

[hexed grove]

guys when ever i do jab jab jab portal my portal never hits what do i do quick

[bold jungle]

REAL

Ngl i just double jetpack for kills

Or use that gun that makes you go bug and then jetpack

[bold jungle]

I do the same thing but less technically lmfao

If they jump over meeseeks i just jetpack

[marble wadi]

You have to hold the button and aim it where the opponent is launched

[marble wadi]

I feel thats good but i feel like double tap portal is busted so also that to control space

[hexed grove]

then it wont be hitstun if i hold it

[marble wadi]

You just gotta move it fadt

Also are you sure they arent at 0

Im not sure it works ar 0

[hexed grove]

i just did like 30 attempts and it only hit like hallf the times is this suppose to be a consistgent combo or is it just random

also yea doesnt work at 0

[marble wadi]

Its just very hard

Its easier if you do it from jab 2

[hexed grove]

im watching a video of a guy consistenly doing jab 2 into portal at 0 but idk how

[marble wadi]

Dunno how to explain it beside "it takes a lot of practice:

[hexed grove]

took this to heart and hit it at 0 5 times inna row

🤝

[marble wadi]

POGCHAMP

[hexed grove]

ive discovered that the perk puglist is the issue

i cant miss if i dont have it

but if i do its random

ok i lied it seems when the bot is on dodge after hitstun it doesnt hit for some reason but when the bot is on just recovery it hits every time

which doesnt make sense bc the bot doesnt dodge the portal

and i do it the same every way

[limber flume]

this sounds dumb but how tf do you beat IG as rick

Dude never dies and he can side special through meeseeks and laser

[bold jungle]

how do yall play rick on keyboard

its so fricking hard man

[tender ferry]

#combos message

[paper nimbus]

I stumbled onto your message, and can confirm you that the dodge setting will also make the bot DI in the same said direction

So on "dodge away" for example the bot will also constantly DI away

which is why certain strings won't combo, it just means they are not true strings

[hexed grove]

do u have any true strings im struggling to find good combos for him

[paper nimbus]

I don't play Rick

[zealous totem]

you have to aim it fast

its actually a little difficult

im still getting better with it

[ancient smelt]

yknow of all characters to be represented by a trans emoji i certainly didn't expect rick sanchez

...not complaining though cuz I'm trans and love this guy LOL

[pastel aurora]

struggling with rick's kill power, are there any good early kill moves?

[tender ferry]

no. the only way to kill is jab 1 > grounded up-attack at 95% or Mr Meeseek's grounded up-attack at 100%. if u so happen to be playing on Dexter's Laboratory then u are out of luck

[real flicker]

tom and jerry might be the worst match up

jerry slingshot out right instakills any projectile including meeseeks

and hes too short to get hit by lasers

[real flicker]

up air up air up special

[zealous totem]

and he takes so many hits to kill

[real flicker]

FR

[zealous totem]

tiny mf strong af

[real flicker]

and his rockets also insta kill meeseeks

why doesnt golf club meeseeks reflect them??

[zealous totem]

idk

im honestly so sick of rick's moves that should kill but arent killing

like his jab 3 rocket feels so useless

it never kills

for me

even his up special sometimes just sends them horizontal for some reason

idk man im probably just bad with rick

[subtle isle]

Up attack and then up special works for me sometimes.

Both have to be charged up to work better though.

[bold jungle]

Wait good point lmfao

[limber flume]

Sair kills pretty reliably at ledge

and down tilt into up b at ledge kills at like 100

Rick just doesn't have a click and they die button which is kinda why he feels bad

But yeah t&j is hell on earth

[real flicker]

fr

[late orchid]

How do you do the Rick jab portal combo

[spring dew]

jab -> jab -> place your portal on the enemy quickly while they're still in hitsun. Once successful you can follow up with dair sair or dair up special.

[olive lily]

Best emote in the game fr

[late orchid]

Do they have to have a certain damage already

[carmine vine]

no it can be done at 0

[limber flume]

The thing is some characters at zero won’t bounce until like 10-15 percent after a dair or sair so you kinda wanna play footsies and get chip damage until then

Or you can’t really combo off of it

[nocturne crow]

Yeah it depends on characters and their di

Rick as a whole is just inconsistent

[zealous totem]

the portal combo is inconsistent, to do it consistently you have to be really fast with your portal aiming

i find it difficult honestly

especially to pull off in real matches

[carmine vine]

on keyboard maybe. controller its pretty easy

[gilded cargo]

I wish every down air hitbox was as honest as rick's

[limber flume]

nah fr they need to fix his dair that thing does not hit

[gilded cargo]

or align everyone else's to be as honest as his like WW and batman 💀

[limber flume]

in a perfect world we'd get both

[tender ferry]

that's gotta be the fattest lie. all u have to do is jab 1 & 2 > side-special by holding left-stick right (assuming ur opponent is on ur right-side) then back left-stick back left again. u don't just do it instantly it's a timing thing and it's very easy with a small amount of practice

[zealous totem]

if you try to do it instantly its very easy to di out of

[zealous totem]

i guess

[late orchid]

Di?

[zealous totem]

directional input

if you hold a certain direction youll move a ltitle to that side while youre getting knocked back

[tender ferry]

it doesn't have anything to do with DI, it has to do with the starting positioning of the portal while the opponent is in hitstun

[zealous totem]

idk about controller but on keyboard if you insta-side special it always spawns the portal a certain distance from rick

and its too far to do the portal combo consistently

for me atleast

idk maybe its just a skill issue

youre really good with your combos though

but im just not that good

im still improving

[carmine vine]

they can di but not out of it. it just changes where you place the portal which can be practices in training and portal works the same on controller. its just easier to move on controller

doing it consistently isn't hard you just got to micro manage portal which sounds harder then it is

and for b&bs i can post some in the combo chat if people wanna see them

or if you need a visual version

[limber flume]

it just takes some time, I'm pretty sure as long as the portal is in the general area of your opponent it'll hit

It took me a few hours to get it down but once you get used to it it's pretty easy

[zealous totem]

its not hard, its just hard to do under pressure of a real game

for me atleast

i can do it consistently in training but i rarely pull it off in a real match

[zealous totem]

di out of an instant portal i mean

[carmine vine]

i mean yeah but all u got to do is wait a sec and jump where they go out of the portal. you got enough time to do so

[normal hatch]

when is pickle rick comin

[bitter blade]

Pickle rick is going to be an eco fighter so that maybe a reason why it’s taking a while

[vague robin]

im ngl

if they were to make an eco fighter for rick

it would have to go to rick prime imo

[zealous totem]

whats an eco fighter

[frozen vector]

Echo fighter. Term from Smash Bros meaning a character with a completely different design but the same moveset.

[grave night]

This might be just me but I feel like Rick's side special actions should be swapped?

Like it should just be one press to set a portal, then another to transport to it should you desire.

It feels weirdly overcomplicated having to double-tap the special button just to place a portal.

[vague robin]

portal as it is rn is better than in the beta

[flat compass]

how does the portal work

i cant seem to teleport enemies

[zealous totem]

spawn the portal on them while theyre in hitstun

or send them through a singular portal

[nocturne crow]

It's easier on lighter characters

Otherwise it'll be DI dependent, plus whether they're being hit on the edge of your jab 1 or not

[bold jungle]

bruh i cant with rick sometimes

i can get someone to 150 and there still alive

also i really hope they remake tooniverse rick skin

it doesnt look soo good rn

[zealous totem]

jab 1 pulls the enemy in anyway so i dont think it matters

[nocturne crow]

No it does

Sometimes they'll be hit by one hit on the very edge of your jab, meaning if you go for jab 2 portal it'll always connect

[zealous totem]

o

[nocturne crow]

Since they're already pushed far

[limber flume]

really ? his tooniverse is my favorite of his skins, I think the outline makes him look a lot better

[bold jungle]

nah its a goodd skin but its missing alot of stuff

idk it looks nice in battle but dduring the shop ui thing it looked odd

still a good skin

[limber flume]

just need pickle rick to drop fr fr

[limber flume]

who do we think ricks worst matchups are ?

[orchid magnet]

i miss the pickle rick skin

[smoky relic]

Rick is A tier in my opinion.

[gilded needle]

They probably won't drop pickle rick for a while. They will want people to buy other rick skins first because once pickle rick comes out nobody will want the other skins haha

[bitter blade]

Hes an eco fighter

He probably won’t be a skin

[feral trout]

bugs bunny 💀

[real bolt]

the upcomin rick skins are craaazy good

[vague robin]

it was never in the game to begin with

[limber flume]

i imagine we won't get it till next season tbh

[gilded needle]

Can you dm me pics of them?

[vagrant latch]

How hard is it to play Rick because I’m trying to look for a main in multiversus and I wanted to know if Rick was easy or not and if he can be played aggressively

[carmine vine]

I know new people find it hard to pick him up but once you get portal combos down he is pretty easy. his only downside is just kill power

[compact swift]

ricks fun as hell tho

weaker than alot of characters but i think he will age like a fine wine over time

[restive inlet]

He's easy

There isn't a single hard character in the game

[dapper wraith]

yooo im pretty sure im playing against your rick right now, you're cracked dude wtff @pliant bridge

[pliant bridge]

oh yeah we did!!

tyty man

[dapper wraith]

crazyy setups i didnt even know rick did all that

[pliant bridge]

it was you, i rewatched the vod and saw ur name

ur finn is crazy

[dapper wraith]

i got a lot to learn i thought that mu was free 😭 was not ready to get cooked so thoroughly

[pliant bridge]

oh nwnw lol 😭 i get told no rick really plays like me

but we move !!

keep up the work and dont drop him, youll win a lot from that

[normal hatch]

when is pickle rick

[grave night]

So is he still gonna be a skin or do you think he's gonna be a full-on character.

[frozen vector]

This character needs a buff in the next patch, honestly.

[carmine vine]

nah he is pretty good rn the only thing i would change is his down air hitbox but overall hes A tier for sure

[frozen vector]

I mean yeah, down air kinda sucks.

It feels like it should be a big Ganon-like spike but it just doesn't deliver 9 times out of 10.

[acoustic estuary]

Ngl I find myself converting into portal combos off a meeseeks hit more than jab

[haughty shale]

down air is just not worth it with such a strict hitbox and not much reward

[nocturne crow]

I use it very often not to kill but for damage in combos

Does a ton of damage with fire too

But that hitbox definitely needs a fix, sometimes the legs just go through people without hitting them

[pliant bridge]

dair is a good combo extender

but imo rick is fine, hes just a v hard character

[ivory forum]

Do you think Rick should be heroics villanous character?

[tender ferry]

I think he should get a skin that turns him into villainous, specifically a green one

[ivory forum]

But as whole Rick is a anti-heroic character.

[tender ferry]

i'm not excluding the fact it would just be a good reason to throw in a Rick skin

[pliant bridge]

if rick prime is a skin it should be villainous

then robot rick would be heroic

[spice sorrel]

Can stupid ricks stop spamming rocket skis and do anything else

[tender ferry]

u got beat by Simple Rick? classic

[limber flume]

skill issue tbh

[paper mason]

Rick is so fun

What’s the recommended perk for him?

[pliant bridge]

you can use any in 1s, its up to you

5% is best in 2s

[scenic rampart]

Not really Rick related. But Morty should have a tiny Rick skin

[bold jungle]

lol

[gilded needle]

If they aren't gonna add Pickle Rick they better at least give us Doofus Rick with a poop eating taunt

[bold jungle]

pickle rick is a skin

they just dont have it in the game yet

also

does anyone know any air walker combos for rick?

i want to get better at this character but all the guides on youtube suck

and everyone that says there a pro rickk player on youtube are so BAD

[pliant bridge]

like who

[bitter blade]

It’s not that he’s bad bad it’s just for casual players he’s bad

I think we really should start making a difference here for casuals I don’t think casuals can start learning portal combos for the game

[bold jungle]

Im talking about the youtubers that claim there “the number one rick”

Or a “pro rick”

[nocturne crow]

I feel OFFENDED

But uh I did have some airwalker combos in my montage but it was just me starting to learn it

[bold jungle]

ooh i see

i really think rick can go crazy with air walker

the problem is just having to manage his dodge meter

also its too easy to dodge out of a rick combo

i was thinking i could just play like normal and when my oppoment gets to around 70% ill start walking slower and saving my dodge meter for rick air walker combos

the most basic one i found in training was jab1 -> air attack -> air walker + air attack

[nocturne crow]

Jab 1 air attack does not sound like a true combo

I like to use dodges for movement a lot of the time

[bold jungle]

yea thats the thing that sucks

i dodge for movement alot

[bold jungle]

its not really a "true" combo

its just that its the eaiset thing for me to do with airwalker lol

[nocturne crow]

Might as well do jab 2

If they di in your aerial actually will be true

If they di out it's a portal combo

I've done jab jab down air a lot in my video because it's SUPER good

[nocturne crow]

Also with this, you get dodge meter back if you hit the enemy, and if you use up all your dodge meter during your OWN combo that's really good because then you'll have a lot of your dodge meter back by the time your combo ends

Don't be scared to spend your dodge meter, especially when you're playing Rick who has projectiles and good hitboxes to box people out if they're trying to push in on you

I do dodge cancel moves a LOT

[frigid oasis]

Rick's meeseeks feel like, a lot LESS responsive
Like it takes some time for them to spawn and THEN attack

and like, i wish the butt thing rick spawns was faster to deploy

idk if anyone else got those problems, just wanted to say smth abt it lol

[pliant bridge]

jab 2 is still very true to portal

[gray flower]

do you guys play Rick offensively or defensively

[nocturne crow]

Yes I feel those too

[nocturne crow]

Both

[bold jungle]

Everytime i do jab 2 my opponent moves to far to connect to up attack