Reindog

[solar flint]

so how play vs ion giant

[errant wing]

You don't

[solar flint]

feels like everything else is playable

but that

[woeful jetty]

I hadnt played against iron giant much since beta and suddenly i fought 2 today

They take up half the stage with the new character sizing, its crazy

[quasi ice]

I'm pretty sure IG is the easiest matchup for Reindog although I haven't met one in 1v1 in a long time

He can't really deal with your projectiles or side special

[solar flint]

lol

but he can

[errant wing]

Same with any projectile character

[shell cargo]

Bro has never heard of Jason Voorhees

[solemn steppe]

removing the loop was fine tbh. they saw there was an issue and pounced.. maybe it was easier to fix compared to other characters cause Reindog has no combo game to worry about trying to keep into his kit to be strong 😂 just that loop just like from beta: jab jump

[quasi ice]

Bugs' loop is literally ONE attack lmao

There are characters that are played like 50x more than Reindog and they have loops

Fixing said loops I assume would be very easy, but they left these in the game and specifically targeted Reindog's

[summer timber]

Reindog didnt do anything wrong

[unique grove]

Because not many people play him so for them not many people will complain I guess

They dont want to destroy popular character but less played they dont really Care that much

[quasi ice]

But it still irks because almost no one plays Reindog, which means you rarely see one at all, therefore the chances of meeting a Reindog player that loops are astronomically low, so it's not like people were being vocal about it. So someone on PFG went out of his way to remove his loop but not any of the twenty other loops that are in the game

You're probably right though, and I agree. If this were Bugs Bunny for instance thousands of us could pester Tony on Twitter to buff him, as opposed to the half a dozen of us who play this character

This is LITERALLY gamer genocide

[solemn steppe]

freereindog

let him into the matrix

give him kill power on all his attacks like 99% of the roster and he'll be soooooo goooooood

there's no reason he should lack kill power but everyone else has it in spades

also does anyone else hate that up tilt pushes people up and horizontally so you can't even get your up airs on ppl?

[mystic ice]

I feel like his kill power isn’t his main problem he’s just too slow most of the time

At least for me I can kill

[solemn steppe]

are you using magic to enhance your pc? because that's the only way 😂 haha seriously like his knockback numbers on nearly all of his attacks are way way way lower than pretty much the entire cast. his true kill %s are way way higher like around 140%+ and you need to have people near blast zones meanwhile many/most other characters in the game can press a button and kill around 80-100 from nowhere near a blast zone

i'm not talking subjectively here. just compare reindog's moves beside the rest of the cast's and he factually kills at much higher %s

[haughty marten]

you can kill sub 100 with up air close to the top

charging up tilt > up air works well

sair > air side special is good for side kills

fireball spikes

[solemn steppe]

yes but you have to put in work for that

everyone else can press one button anywhere

[haughty marten]

I wouldn't say that's true tbh

a fair few of the top tiers can, like joker ww bugs but you won't see, say, a Marvin pressing one button to kill

it's more of a top tiers are broken thing moreso than it is a reindog is garbage thing

[solemn steppe]

we must be playing different games

i'm not saying he's garbage

i'm talking about knockback values

it's not just the special top tiers that have really good moves with really good knockback

it's just about everyone

[haughty marten]

we have air side special and grounded side special

we have an amazing spike in fireball

we have up tilt up air

[solemn steppe]

reindog doesn't really have that one move that will just straight up wreck you at around 100

[haughty marten]

I don't think we are lacking in kill options

[solemn steppe]

knockback. value.

that's what I'm talking about

he has the lowest in the game

[haughty marten]

any proof for this?

[solemn steppe]

eyes

i mean

go into training

set the bot to 120

see who kills

with their moves

or 89 since it doesn't go higher i think, but get them to around 120

black adam side air ur dead, shaggy kick ur dead, ww sair ur dead, banana guard sair ur dead, joker up air ur dead, rick up special ur dead, taz tornado ur dead, gizmo umbrella ur dead, buggs up air ur dead, harley up special ur dead, lebron up special ur dead, superman almost anything ur dead, morty up air ur dead

from nowhere near the blast zone

reindog up tilt charge might only kill really light characters

i'm just saying like i main reindog and have almost 400 hours into him and i love him. i think he has a lot of special sauce, but when you look at how most of the roster just has stronger knockback on their moves on average, it makes him look weaker in comparison

and when you consider he's one of the lightest characters in the game which means he dies pretty early, playing reindog can feel really difficult

[mystic ice]

Ok so you were just lying before. If you don’t like that you have to put in work to play as a character pick BG

[solemn steppe]

lying about what? you sound confused. I don't mind putting a little bit of work in, i'm contrasting him to other characters lmao and how they don't really need to so that makes him technically weaker

you seem a bit lost

so i don't like something about my main character that means I should switch to someone else? that logic is terrible, ngl

[urban swan]

He was in beta, he’s now one of tbe heaviest

[mystic ice]

I’ve just heard word that you can get the Megaladog reindog skin in the new event if I don’t I will probably be sad

[haughty marten]

if they dont guarantee by day 8 im rioting

[mystic ice]

I Said it in General chat and I’ll say it again. If I don’t get any skins I want I will KILL reindog in front of the PFG offices

[quasi ice]

No, he isn't. He's still lightweight

[urban swan]

Yes he is

They changed his weight

[quasi ice]

You have a source on that?

[solemn steppe]

^ please because by playing the game you can tell he's pretty light and can die extremely early

heavy is black adam, garnet, ww, superman, IG

they refuse to die

[woven trout]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/977514526960386061/1256049597835640923/image.png?ex=6680ac58&is=667f5ad8&hm=c0d1a042353819d05cd663a95a3a949627b7aa39eb232c2aaf807c4e6b215eee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=960&height=630

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/977514526960386061/1256051048683143178/character-weight-visualization-v-2-04-v0-Xkd4Ir0BMO0LOv8nN5ew2XA1_7HoBxKdWksxabxdeag.webp?ex=6680adb2&is=667f5c32&hm=6edd8d93e8fd7eb52dc3464ebd73b0a84b8685f419daf641405f484fe525420e&=&format=webp&width=960&height=404

[woven trout]

this is beta

[shell cargo]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihEFHf01I8lKibPkAEavEaqZyU-VV9MGeKGZ-PmjeQM/edit?gid=736130214#gid=736130214

Wrong

he is as heavy as WW

[quasi ice]

Nah I don't believe it

He still feels lightweight asf

[shell cargo]

DI better

Or don't fight Shaggy idk

Shaggy kills everyone but the 3 heaviest at like 60-80% off of one jab

[quasi ice]

Yeah lemme just DI out of WW's move that kills you at ~60 or so mid stage

🙂

[shell cargo]

Which one?

Only her dtilt would be doing that with full meter or whatever the mechanic is that makes it literally the most vile thing ever unless you're just intentionally walking into fully charged attacks

[quasi ice]

That's just one example of many

Shaggy is in fact the least of my concerns

Since he's a one-trick pony

[quasi ice]

This is honestly one of the most pointless characters in the game rn outside of maybe Velma

Might as well remove him

[quasi ice]

If u want a well-rounded character with both great melee and projectiles just play any of the other ten characters that do that rn

[solemn steppe]

well if this data is true, knockback in this game is ridiculously insane

[harsh parrot]

so how do you really go up against reindog

cause this is the one character i have no knowledge to go up against

[haughty marten]

I mean I don't think you really need knowledge on the dawg to win you just kind of overpower him by throwing out bigger and faster hitboxes
just watch out for
grounded side special goes pretty far (interrupt during startup if you can)
aerial side special is pretty active but has a lot of recovery
slide up tilt is a whiff punish leading to early kills with up air
fireball spikes and has a deceptively big hitbox watch out for it while on the ledge

[harsh parrot]

i'll take note of this

thanks man

[solemn steppe]

whiff punish him hard, he has really high recovery on his attacks

also if your character has disjoints, just abuse that

reindog can't really play the game against disjointed characters

get in and don't let up if you're playing that type of character

[harsh parrot]

I see

[solemn steppe]

who do u play?

[harsh parrot]

Harley

[dull marsh]

Yeah knockback is this game is really ridiculous. There is simply just some moves that can launch you from mid stage to left side kill box almost when you're at 60-80

luckily its only some moves but it just makes no sense when it has insane knockback at lower % acting as if you're at 40-60 with the knockback it has

ive been saying this games health/% and knockback is a literal joke lol

[reef panther]

just purchased reindog, he's really fun in training so thought i might as well buy him

[solemn steppe]

welcome

[solemn steppe]

and good luck lmao

[near canyon]

Rein is highest win rate in the game, reins lowk op, Garnet has been mid since beta, Shes really fun just really weak

[summer timber]

[near canyon]

?, Also nerf T&J. Hes so spammy its makes me wanna cry myself to sleep (i mained t&J in beta)

[summer timber]

Not our fault

[near canyon]

Yes ur fault

[summer timber]

We have the most mechanical character in the game

[solemn steppe]

don't put too much stock into wr, especially when considering such a small sample size

[near canyon]

Fr, Only 1.1% of players play rein

[solemn steppe]

like no one lmaooo

[solemn steppe]

i do think that if they were to give this character a really good treatment in this mid season patch, he would be tippity top tier. like the gizmo treatment from beta to release he got like waaaaay better, meanwhile we lowkey stayed the same/got worse since they gutted his ptoo fluidity

for example gizmo umbrella used to be pretty bad in beta but now it's cracked. his up tilt popcorn had no knockback before, now it destroys people. all of his attacks were hardcore buffed with increased knockback, i know because i was a rein/gizmo main. reindog did not receive that same treatment

instead reindog got hitbox nerfed dair & maybe even dtilt. nerfed startup/recovery for ptoo, crystal, tether, fireball

he didn't get enough buffs to the rest of his kit to compensate for those hard nerfs we got imo. at least, not in the way most of the roster did - the game was slowed down but now attacks have a lot of knockback and can kill you really early if you're not careful... that is unless you're playing reindog and especially when you play against good players who won't just get cheesed at early %s so you have to really earn your kills. and I have to clarify my issue isn't having to earn KOs, it's that he has to put in like 3-5x the work that other characters have to put in to get them honestly lol

[shell cargo]

Survivorship bias or whatever

Second smallest pick rate, the people that still play him are good at the game, which bloats his WR

Busted characters like Bugs or Shaggy have very high pick rates, which means a lot of bad players play them

This kills their WR

[quasi ice]

Joker is debatably the best character in the game and he has a low WR. As it stands it means absolutely nothing

If new players started playing this character I would bet my nutsack that his WR would tank really really hard. Anyone who's ever seen an obviously new player or even a more experienced player try Reindog out knows what I'm talking about

Anyway I'm praying that they don't nerf this character next week but considering how stupid whoever is in charge of balancing this game is they might buff WW/BA/BB and nerf Lebron Reindog and Garnet or whatever

[solemn steppe]

random but i wish just once someone would throw me.....

it might have good knockback but i can't tell because no one throws me lmao

[near canyon]

nah lebron meta is boring imo

[woeful jetty]

New hate just unlocked. Steven players in 1s. The good ones are nearly untouchable or inescapable

[summer timber]

As an T&J main they make my blood boil

[quasi ice]

Yes Steven is a pretty nasty matchup. Projectiles don't really work and his melee attacks simply have more range and/or are faster

[pine mist]

Is reindog worth it?

I mean worth playing

[vagrant niche]

Reindog niceeee

[haughty marten]

worth is subjective
do you like playing the funny dog? if so, keep using him
if you want to win, do as sanford kelly says and pick a top tier

that isnt to say that dawg cant win tho
he has some sauce in him

[pine mist]

I-

Idk man. I heard he got nerfed and his 1v1 is bad

[haughty marten]

arguably hes eating in 1s

the nerfs are exclusively to remove the jab sair loop

with 1 exception, the up air nerf

which we still dont understand

you have to play less aggressive than the rest of the cast but theres a reason dawg has an above average win rate (over the sampling bias issue)

[vagrant niche]

Reindog doesn’t have any easy kill set ups you gotta gotta make a read, hit a side special, or get an up tilt up air conversion

[solemn steppe]

^

[solemn steppe]

I love the way you put this

[solemn steppe]

he's got some sauce if you really take time to learn him and get good with him. if that's not what you're into and you don't enjoy playing him thoroughly, I'd say use your fighter currency elsewhere unless you just have a ton

[pine mist]

Idk I just love Reindog so much

I wanna enjoy him

[solemn steppe]

you love the idea of him?

[pine mist]

I’ve seen footage of some sort of stun lock into death or something from him. I wanna do that.

[pine mist]

yes.

I love him so much..

[solemn steppe]

oh he actually has quite low hit stun on most of his attacks compared to other stronger cast members

have you taken some time to lab him in training?

[pine mist]

I mean. Idk.

I don’t expect myself to get anywhere on console

[solemn steppe]

if you wanted to go anywhere, console would not bar you from anything. also, that doesn't answer my question xD if you haven't actually practiced him in the lab and know you are obsessed with his kit over others in the cast, don't use your fighter currency unless you have enough to spare

[pine mist]

I tried practicing him a bit.

I already bought him lmao

Weeks ago.

[solemn steppe]

oh rofl

so the question is whether to grind him or not

if you like playing games like dark souls, go for it 😂

[pine mist]

Ehhhh

Idk

I wanna main Reindog tho.

Just feel like controller is such a weakness

Because trashy Xbox controller

[solemn steppe]

over keyboard? or pad?

lots of pros use xbox controllers

it just depends on your preference

[pine mist]

I’d like to use keyboard instead. Ppl seem to have more mobility on keyboard and mouse or whatever than controller

[solemn steppe]

that really seems like a preference thing tbh. and i'm curious about who people are since pretty much every mvs player that enters tourneys and streams uses a controller

[haughty marten]

it's more of just preference

[pine mist]

Oh? And are they good..?

[haughty marten]

keyboard makes the spindash tech easier but you can technically do it on controller

[pine mist]

Controller just seems so janky to me, and I unintentionally spam or make the wrong attacks n moves by mistake. I been tryna remember moves and use them, but my controller refuses.

[solemn steppe]

then go for keyboard if that's what you like

why not, eh

[pine mist]

I wish I could

[solemn steppe]

o

[pine mist]

Being stuck on console

[solemn steppe]

i see

i know how u feel lol it's np np

sounds like u gotta just go thru controller boot camp

🫡

[pine mist]

what’s that do

[solemn steppe]

what does it do? it makes you better at using controllers

[pine mist]

Oh

I see

Just wish we had guides

[torn linden]

Reindoggers

let's pray together

let us come together and hope

[rocky surge]

Hoping

[torn linden]

coping

[rocky surge]

👉👈

[solemn steppe]

🙏

[torn linden]

YES

WE GOT A BUFF

WE GOT BUFFS

OMG, THEY READ ME

[solemn steppe]

whaaaaaaat

please dont bait me

[sweet lodge]

Tf yall get buffs for??

[solemn steppe]

😭

[sweet lodge]

Is Reindog bad?

[haughty marten]

WE SO BACK

[torn linden]

THEY SAID IT

THEY DIDN'T SAY WHAT

[fickle wolf]

he lives

[haughty marten]

LETS GOOOOO

[torn linden]

BUT THEY SAID WE GOT BUFFS

[solemn steppe]

prob 1 buff

[torn linden]

AND?

[haughty marten]

ptoo buff at least please

[torn linden]

WE STILL EATING

[solemn steppe]

lebron players got a book to read 😭

[torn linden]

it's now just projectile vomiting

[solemn steppe]

we will see, just waiting for notes now

[obtuse dragon]

Top 280 bark bark

[neat fiber]

knowing how PFG is, they most likely will just have had made neutral-special less punishable so that it isn't only used when an opponent is off-stage

[sweet lodge]

Oh

Everyone been saying Reindog was high a

That’s why I was confused

I think PFG just wants more people to play their custom character 😭

[woeful jetty]

The people saying that tend to only see the win rates and assume that means the character is good

[haughty marten]

reindog is a solid B tier if not low A at high level play
he is by all means fine where he is at high level play but definitely suffers in the hands of less experienced players
the fact that he has a very high win rate in both 1s and 2s right now according to tracker.gg can less so be attributed to his strength and more so sampling bias. not many people like to play him so the people that do are generally more devoted to the character, this being higher skilled comparatively
characters like bugs joker ww have sort of the opposite problem, being insanely strong characters whose win rates suffer because of the amount of low leveled players using them

[dull marsh]

I think Reindog is B but he is just really unsatisfying to use since he relies on the same moves the higher the playing field gets to get stuff done. He also has to play insane neutral and has such terrible kill confirms except Sair into SAS at edge or top map which is a good reason why he feels bad but he is still relatively good.

Its more so the top tiers are so giga broken that anyone below them feels terrible going against them but even if they were nerfed, Reindog has a kinda unsatisfying gameplay loop rn imo but that just depends on what you want good on the character since id like to combo and use ptoo like b4 but others just want a more brawl heavy RD with good kill confirms

[quasi ice]

Reindog F tier

[sick flicker]

Thoughts on RD buffs?

[haughty marten]

changes very little

ptoo buff might be good for 2s but changes almost nothing in 1s because you're almost never going for ptoo in 1s anyway

if spindash got removed it's an L patch but I think we still good

for now it just depends on whether or not ww and joker got shot enough

[quasi ice]

"+ Reindog now flies more horizontally when thrown sideways by an ally" just what this character needed

S tier confirmed

[quasi ice]

God I miss beta speed

[solemn steppe]

wow

L patch

[unique grove]

when reindog doesn't get nerf it's a buff

it's how it seem to work

[shell cargo]

Should've nerfed Reindog again

[vagrant niche]

Reindog fire I can't lie

Playing him rn he's heattt

[quasi ice]

We live in a society where Reindog doesn't get proper buffs

[sly dome]

he doesn’t need much

genuinely

[shell cargo]

Reindog is already an S tier you nincompoop

[quasi ice]

You guys are being silly

Anyway I've prepared a list of changes I think Reindog should go through

• Rename him to Shaggy so that the devs might accidentally buff him
  That's pretty much it. Everything else should fall into place

[shell cargo]

They nerfed shaggy

[quasi ice]

They nerfed him recently too but reverted the nerf

[warm cosmos]

we need a 24 season reindog show

named "Reindog and friends"

that'll be so col

[sly dome]

he doesn’t really need much

reindog is really solid

[warm cosmos]

besides that 35 season show with 4 spinoffs and 3 movies

he's so cool

[sly dome]

well yea sure

i meant gameplay wise

[summer timber]

Id pay for that

[sick flicker]

I mean kinda. He really needs his projectiles (espeecially Neutrals) to be sped up. His combo games not rlly there. And DESPERATLLY needs better kill moves. Compared to the rest of the cast RD probably is the slowest to kill.

Ik hes meant for 2s but he doesnt even shine there. Like betweeen Mid B to Bottom A. In 1s, hes pretty mid/bad. I wanna say bottom 8 or somewhere in that range

So yeah with a few buffs in the right places, he could be a whole lot better, but I doubt PFG would do such a thing atm.

[dusk thunder]

only neutrals really need to be sped up tbh down special is fine moving as slow as it does since it's meant to be an area denial tool

[sick flicker]

Ur right

[dusk thunder]

defo needs killpower tho his kill moves are atrociously slow and still dont actually kill at reasonable percents

got people living to 166 sometimes

[sick flicker]

so true 💀

[snow sable]

Reindog has voice actor!!!!

Let's darn gooooo

[summer timber]

Why does Reindog feel so much smoother to play

[haughty marten]

might have something to do with the input buffer changes?

[junior sundial]

They finally put it in?

Took them forever 😭

[dusk thunder]

they did not give him the killpower

[haughty marten]

ptoo is a kill move now

[dusk thunder]

that is the only thing they gave him and there's no way to confirm into it

(that i know of)

[snow sable]

Yeah and is very adorable

Barks, aggressively sniffes, howling etc.

[minor yew]

For some reason, Reindog's voice reminds me of King Dedede in smash with that low pitch tone

[haughty marten]

uh because you're supposed to aim it and use it to edge guard

although now I think if you get an opportunity you could use it anywhere on the stage

[dusk thunder]

his only efficient kill move is an edgeguarding/neutral tool

[haughty marten]

only efficient kill move

?

how about sair > air side b

how about up tilt > up air

how about fireball

[dusk thunder]

not true as far as i know

[dusk thunder]

air side b sucks as a kill move

[haughty marten]

it is tho

[dusk thunder]

only works as a spiking tool

[haughty marten]

ok and he has the tools to force the enemy to ledge

[haughty marten]

this is just wrong 👍

[dusk thunder]

my opponents living to 140 and onward says otherwise

your next line is telling me that im playing the character wrong

[haughty marten]

if you're doing it center stage you need to use sair first to get them closer to edge

you could even do sair > sair > air side b iirc

[stuck hearth]

Bro eww wtf are these new voicelines they added for reindog

[dusk thunder]

dog noises

because he's a

dog

[stuck hearth]

I prefer silent reindog

These noises are not it

[haughty marten]

I like them

[dusk thunder]

yk my issue might just be that im only getting matched up with characters who outbox me or characters that live to 186 like it's nothing

[quasi ice]

They still havent fixed his up air not biting twice about 50% of time

It almost feels like RNG if you get one or two bites

So at this point I unironically think they should change it to one big bite instead of two

[pine mist]

BUFFS FOR WHAT

Reindog has voice lines now btw

So now I know what he sounds like.

I must know what the buffs are about

Someone pls tell meh

[unique grove]

there is no buff really

he got some secret change that make it worse

[pine mist]

Oh thanks for telling me

[pine mist]

He’s worse? Then why were ppl hyping up about it

[unique grove]

In reality there is one but it doesnt do anything

[unique grove]

Because the ptoo got a little buff that doesnt make the move better

and in the patch they didnt write everything that change

No more slide off side special

and it seems that side special has more whiff lag (need to compare but it seems like it)

[pine mist]

Bummer

Trying to look into what perks are good on Reindog @unique grove

any suggestions??

I got enough for one more perk

I bought “armor killer”.

Does “Troll Tactics” do anything?

[unique grove]

i dont know all the name but what did you got already for you perk ?

[pine mist]

I bought “last stand” some time ago

I also bought armor killer

Snowball effect

And I got all the signatures

[unique grove]

I mean what do you use ?

[pine mist]

Heck if I know.

I’m trying to figure out what’s good

I wanna be a reindog main

[unique grove]

snowball effect / last stand / pugilist

is my main perk list

with well rounded as the main perk

Push the advantage perk is a must have for IG

The armor killer perk is not useful at all

[pine mist]

Oof

I wasted

[unique grove]

yeah on reindog its not useful since we already have two Shield break and one broken

I would recommend you the perk I told you

Also against gizmo the perk that make you have a projectile Shield when you run is insane

[pine mist]

Ight. I got em all basically…

The ones u listed

[unique grove]

If you have that + well rounded. Its probably perfect

[pine mist]

I see

[unique grove]

I dont any better perk list that are better on reindog on most mu

[pine mist]

Alr

Gotcha

Thanks for the assistance

Ima hop into FFA

Try it out

If u wanna play, lemme kno

[pine mist]

Combo used

Took home two 1v1 W’s vs two bugs players. Good stuff.

[quasi ice]

I thought Reindog feeling harder to control and being a bit stiffer was just me

So yeah they def stealth nerfed him a bit

Also his death growl sucks lol it sounds like a grown ass mean trying to sound like a dog

[dusk thunder]

it's literally a kill move now wdym it's not better

[unique grove]

Yeah its a kill move at 180 and before it was 190 I guess

no it still sucks

[dusk thunder]

untrue but cook ig

[unique grove]

this move kill power was not the biggest issues

still an issues

[dusk thunder]

me when i cant combo with the projectile clearly designed to be a neutral tool 🤯

[unique grove]

I dont talk about that

its a Bad neutral tool

its slow to start, slow Moving and you have a lot of lag

the only reason to use that is to have a safe side special

It can still combo btw

the only optimal use are in advantage state

[dusk thunder]

slow moving neutral tools arent bad
reindog has multiple mobility tools to space himself out to make ptooey and fireball safe

[unique grove]

the problem is that they got a lot of Time to react because of that

[dusk thunder]

force them to react and punish their reaction

[unique grove]

ptoo is so easy to avoid now

I dont recommend anyone to use it unless edgeguard

because there is just better move to do most of the time

at least now IG die earlier

good for that mu

[unique grove]

If they can dodge ptoo they will be able to attack you, or they will be too far to attack

no in between

side special is just better than ptoo where ptoo should be good

[solemn steppe]

haha fr it's lackingggggg i can't tell you how many times i've headbutted someone at 100+ towards the blast zone when they were legit right next to it and they wouldn't die

meanwhile any other character's attack would just straight up kill there

[near canyon]

Is rein good now? I cant decide on getting him or Finn

[solemn steppe]

he hasn't really changed

[near canyon]

Oh aight

[graceful gorge]

I genuinly hope the user Farlaxle will fall and sit on a pinecone after pulling me into the enemy to get ringed out.

[woeful jetty]

Ive accidentally done that before and i felt so bad about it

[summer timber]

Best Reindog Perks?

[haughty marten]

well rounded
snowball effect
last stand
pugilist

[sick flicker]

Crystal pals not bad. its helped break combos before. Also that\s flamable doc is a good option

[haughty marten]

crystal isnt bad but it does get in the way with your own combos sometimes, it depends on preference but most ppl i know just use well rounded
i dont think flammable is very useful because he only has 2 projectiles, one of which already applies fire
you might find some use out of it if you use ptoo a lot but over snowball effect (at least in 1s)? nah

[next spruce]

can I get a opinion on the batman matchup from fellow reindogs? He seems to beat me in neutral and just interrupts anything I try doing in general.

[quasi ice]

Crystal has literally stopped me from killing people b4 because its tiny knockback was lower than my attack's

I think it didn't use to override your attack or maybe it's just me

[woeful jetty]

I think im gonna try switching to well rounded for a bit. I feel like i never get to have crystal out long enough for crystal pal to make much of a difference

[dusk thunder]

this did not kill bugs at 125%

side air is not good

[quasi ice]

This character feels so bad to play rn what did they do to him?

[solemn steppe]

Follow crystal, press the advantage, last stand, pugilist *

helps his issue with killing

[solemn steppe]

compared to the rest of the roster I can see where you're coming from.... the balance team must be afraid of reindog being actually in line with the rest of the cast in terms of startup, recovery, and knockback

why? idk lol.... cause people will complain about him since they don't wanna deal with a zoner

[quasi ice]

Yet Marvin T&J etc. can still vomit projectiles

[solemn steppe]

lmao

[solemn steppe]

a part of me thinks reindog is their gold standard

so they don't wanna touch him much at all

but then a ton of characters are getting knockback increases on already strong moves and he's just getting uncharged ptoo knockback increase

so idk

i really dont

but it's making me not wanna play anymore, ngl

[haughty marten]

press the advantage and last stand don't stack

[unique grove]

he is so good right now

he can have a bad feeling but when you are good enough this character feel so broken

for me

Still having a loop on some character

another loop at high percent to guaranted a kill on every character

his fireball that let you have great setup

his air side special that can whiff punish anything and is a great combo finisher

up attack up air still can kill early with the last stand perk

this character is really good without a doubt

We have one of the worst disadvantage which is a big deal

[solemn steppe]

oh you're right, my bad. mm it's in the first slot, weakens at like 120

[solemn steppe]

i think i'd agree

though he can ball and run

he has good moves, but could use some more knockback on his pounce and headbutt imo

btw i think charged ptoo was buffed too?

[haughty marten]

yeah

the changes seem insignificant on uncharged ptoo but charged ptoo is significantly better now

[haughty marten]

i meant like when youre over 100 and enemy over 120 they only get 1 stack of weaken

[solemn steppe]

right? i kinda thought so - seems like it's probably his best overall kill tool

[solemn steppe]

yeah that's okay though. all that matters is you're always getting weaken in both situations

it makes him a better teammate in 2s because you're applying weaken to enemies and it allows him to kill easier

i just wish he didn't **need **the weaken perks to boost his knockback

i mean you can get by without it like i've been this entire time but now that i've been testing out the weaken perks, I think they really help a lot

[livid bolt]

anyone know any combos quick

like real combos not 3 hits

[solemn steppe]

sair > up tilt > up air

to get the sair confirm, you can try fireball

[livid bolt]

......

[solemn steppe]

xD it's 3 moves not hits

reindog doesn't really seem like that character

i've been looking for stuff

[haughty marten]

we dont have combos

you can experiment with crystal as a combo extender but its more novelty than practical

[solemn steppe]

we have high recovery and low hitstun on our attacks so chaining them into anything else can be difficult

[haughty marten]

jab jab up tilt up air is our bnb

[minor yew]

Is snowball effect or press the advantage a better perk for Reindog? I also have last stand and pugilist.

[solemn steppe]

I prefer PTA

cause weaken OP

[jaunty widget]

Y’all, Reindog Mains Can I Ask Something?

[summer timber]

Im an upcoming Reindog 2nd Main so go on

[jaunty widget]

Is Reindog Pfg’s Fursona.

[dusk thunder]

probably

[jaunty widget]

Thank You, Trust Me This Information Is Important.

[quasi ice]

Is pounce into dash true

Sometimes it feels like it sometimes it doesn't

Also did they increase air up special acceleration

I'm literally gliding across the map when I don't mean to

[solemn steppe]

I don't believe so

[unique grove]

It depend on the Di of the opponent

not true but not bad

[haughty marten]

didnt get megalodog any1 rioting with me

[quasi ice]

Well not that it matters for w/e reason ever since the latest patch I can't even pull off pounce into dash

[summer timber]

Is the 5% Perk needed for Reindog?

[haughty marten]

given that the fireball perk is useless and the crystal perk is situational, well rounded is generally the best option we have

[summer timber]

Why are people so toxic to Reindog

[manic zenith]

since they only see it once every 100 matches they get mad because they dont know our moveset

which is normal

happens in every game

the reason for the toxicity is that its a way of coping

even tho it isnt a good way to cope its the standart everywhere

[summer timber]

And the players are being consumed by the toxicity

[unique grove]

It will be a lot better with ranked I hope

[minor yew]

Sad that I didn't get shark hat or megalodon Reindog 😦 I can't even purchase the megalodon skin.

[haughty marten]

😔

[minor yew]

I also miss Astropup Reindog. I wish he came back 😔

[woeful jetty]

Im sharpening my pitchforks and lighting my torches right now. Out of the 8 days, i only got 1 shark hat for a character i own, and the rest were hats for characters ive never touched. Im fully convinced the RNG was manipulated to give players skins for characters they dont own to push them into spending money on the skins they actually wanted

[snow sable]

Make reindog have armored while he is being throwed

[rocky surge]

How do you get the shark suit for reindog?

[woeful jetty]

Money

Unless youre one of the few who got it from the shark week crates

[rocky surge]

Ah

[next hinge]

Is it true you get megladog skin after all shark week crates?

[haughty marten]

no

all of the shark week crates are random chance

[pine mist]

I haven’t played since those two bugs 1v1s… 💀

That was scary painful, bro. 1v1ing two bugs as Reindog… -w-

I won tho

[next hinge]

Got it thx

[quasi ice]

F-tier character buff please

[next hinge]

Hell nah Reindog is great

But I’m down for a buff lol

[dusk thunder]

give him killpower please i beg you

[next hinge]

He doesn’t need much just a little buff for killing would be ok

[quasi ice]

Ruff Beindog

[dusk thunder]

dog reinbuff

[next hinge]

Reindog best main choice

[next spruce]

I just want a slight frame data buff

just a tiny bit faster stuff

[next hinge]

Maybe a touch better kill power on a move or 2 for me but pretty happy overall

[solemn steppe]

even though it's annoying and dumb, I can deal with the stupid high startup on his attacks. but I hate the high recovery even for confirms, it makes 0 sense considering his low kill power, especially on his pounce and headbutt which need knockback buffs

i'll get a confirm and then legit get punished because I'm still recovery locked and the enemy has already recovered from the hitstun to my attack

it's actually insane how poorly balanced Reindog is

[next hinge]

Over exaggerated for sure

But hey if they want to buff Reindog I’m all in. Already clapping everyone

High level jokers can be tough

[solemn steppe]

gg ganymede

[real gorge]

Any combos for reindog that anyone could share?

[quasi ice]

New reindog combo unlocked

Jab jab -> dab

Can also be linked into jab jab -> dab dab

[mystic ice]

What’s dab

[quasi ice]

It's funny that even some of the better players don't really know how Reindog works

A lot of bugs players are shocked when they find out his pounce breaks the safe in one hit

Or that you can just glide around the stage with his air up special

Feel like that's what most of his WR% comes from lol

[next hinge]

Reindog main, love the character just wish he had a touch more kill power lol

[lunar lark]

Fr😭

[dusk thunder]

me when up air doesnt kill at 140

[haughty marten]

try to hit it close to his mouth/beard and avoid trying to hit with his forehead

if that makes sense?

idk it's just weird

[near canyon]

Best perks?

[haughty marten]

well rounded
snowball effect
last stand
pugilist

[near canyon]

Ty so much, Hes such a unique character and ive only just started playing him

[near canyon]

Its kinda sad how bad his sig perks are

[haughty marten]

fireball perk is ass but crystal friend has niche use

it can get you out of a lot of combos in certain matchups but comes with the tradeoff of sometimes messing with your combos

[near canyon]

I didnt realise how small the fireball gets buffed, I hope they give him an Extra sig so people dont only run WR

[haughty marten]

I mean wr is a great option on every character

just that Dawgs signatures are useless/niche

if anything they should replace the fireball one so that it's not just a size increase

[near canyon]

Fr, Imo his beam should do more dmg the longer its hitting, The dmg ramps up, but its on a longer cd, Might be a viable perk

[quasi ice]

Crystal should follow Reindog by default

But it shouldn't do damage so that there's no stupid rng stuff of enemy randomly getting interrupted

It should either make you take less dmg/knockback or do more

[haughty marten]

the enemy getting interrupted is kind of the point tho

[quasi ice]

Yes but it almost feels random, plus it sometimes overrides your other attacks' knockbacks with its own

[jaunty sierra]

How do you get the megaladog Fit for Reindog?

[solemn steppe]

yes that means when you time it right, you can extend combos! it's amazing!

i understand it can ruin some of your hits if you meant them to kill but i still like it for the most part

it does good damage, buffs you in the process

stops enemies from attacking you

it's especially annoying on tree fort in 2v2

vertical maps

it helps him a lot

[solemn steppe]

i bought it in the shop while it was on sale. you prob can just go to fighters > skin > purchase

[next hinge]

Last I checked it’s not available to purchase

[lucid silo]

Can we replace reindog with a real warner brothers character soon?

[quasi ice]

Hi. Tony Huynh here. We'll consider it.

• Tony

[quasi ice]

Fully charged projectile should break armor

[shell cargo]

Replace Reindog with Scooby-Doo

[lucid silo]

For real

[silk elm]

Is there any way to get the astropup skin for reindog? It was in the beta but they removed it in the full game

[haughty marten]

afaik its ps+ / game pass exclusive

[silk elm]

I hope they return it, thx

[blazing swift]

Any good combos?

[halcyon maple]

Jab > jab > jab

They might nerf it soon tho to two jabs

[unique grove]

there is no hard combo to find on this character. What you maybe missed is jab sair loop on some character, when jab isnt stale, yeah thats very specific but if you are able to do it at the right Time its so good. It seems that with the Last Stand perk it work a lot more on more character so that's probably a good Idea to take this perk. Also at higher percent jab sair can combo into itself or side special which basicaly guaranted the kill.

For the other combo just follow your instinct and it will be optimal

[blazing swift]

How do you do jab sair?

It’s dodge able

[blazing swift]

@halcyon maple

[blazing swift]

Nevermind I found out how to do it true #combos message

[quasi ice]

Jab jab pounce dash attack

It's not consistently true though

Just like air bite

[unique grove]

like I said it depend on a lot of factor. You should try it either at higher percent or/and on lighter character (also with the Last Stand perk active)

[unique grove]

also no the regular jab sair still work you just need to learn when

this seems as fast as a jump sair

[torn linden]

The main point being

We're out to dry bro

There's nothing here

They took it from us

[shell cargo]

Good, deserved for playing the most OP character in the beta

Honestly top 3 now too tbh if I'm being completely honest

[quasi ice]

Yes I agree Top 3 worst characters in the game

[shell cargo]

Top 3 best, desperately needs nerfs

[quasi ice]

Yes I agree that the top 3 characters in the game unlike Reindog need nerfs

[shell cargo]

Reindog is top 3 and Reindog needs nerfs

Gutting, even

[blazing swift]

Yea I’m using IAD sair

I might need to practise jump sair because IAD takes like 3 dodges

[halcyon maple]

Raindog slaps, it's just he has no combo's and kinda boring to play.

[blazing swift]

I feel like reindog with IAD tech has a lot of combo potential tho

[blazing swift]

69 damage reindog true combo
#combos message
Difficulty: medium-hard

[shell cargo]

I have no idea what y'all keep complaining about Reindog is busted

High A at worst

[unique grove]

in Europe, they put reindog top 10 on tier list because of me (some top 5)

[shell cargo]

Fake

[unique grove]

I can send you some

[shell cargo]

Good player ≠ good character

[unique grove]

To be honest the character is busted

I kinda agree

[blazing swift]

High C at best

[shell cargo]

A at worst

Reindog is busted

[blazing swift]

Not that good

Compared to other characters

[shell cargo]

"Compared to Joker who is in a tier of his own, Reindog and the rest of the cast suck so everyone is F tier"

[blazing swift]

It’s hard to ranked reindog because he’s underplayed and we don’t know his max potential but he’s definitely not A

[shell cargo]

He's definitely A

[blazing swift]

A is like Arya level

[shell cargo]

The crystal is what really makes him a threat

[shell cargo]

Arya is S

[blazing swift]

Very debateable but many people agree she A

But even if she was S tier she would be low S

High A and Low S is very comparable

Compare Arya to reindog

[shell cargo]

Reindog is A tier.

I will DIE on this hill.

[blazing swift]

But I do believe reindog has potential to not be bottom 5

A tier is too much tho

[unique grove]

I do believe he is in top 10 right now

[haughty marten]

i dont think hes top 10

but middle of A seems about right

[blazing swift]

A tier is too high

Low B max potential

[haughty marten]

i mean if you want to look at max potential look at nossages play

his reindog cooks

[blazing swift]

And is his gameplay comparable to other A tiers like Morty

Or Arya

[haughty marten]

morty is NOT an a tier

arya is NOT an a tier

[blazing swift]

What tier

[haughty marten]

both are undisputed top tiers

[blazing swift]

A tier is top tier bruh

[haughty marten]

S tier is top tier

[blazing swift]

Yea cause let’s put like 4 + characters as S tier💀

[haughty marten]

uh yeah

[halcyon maple]

Can i have what you're smoking?

[blazing swift]

Rs

[haughty marten]

joker ww morty arya ig are just so far above the rest of the cast rn

[blazing swift]

Not saying Arya is bad

But wonderwoman and joker in the same tier

Is not comparable

She’s high A let be fr

[haughty marten]

man arya has very easy to access 0tds off easy to hit moves

[halcyon maple]

Idk, i haven't seen anyone play her or go againsts her yet, but i see alot of 0 to death combos with her

[haughty marten]

and youre saying shes NOT a top tier?

[blazing swift]

A lot of them are very Di able and the ones that aren’t are hard to set up against decent

[haughty marten]

A lot of them are very Di able
and even if it doesnt kill, shes racking up at least 70-80% off one interaction.. your point is?

and the ones that aren't are hard to set up against decent (players)
okay, its still a guaranteed kill off one interaction though?

[blazing swift]

So many characters can get like 70% from one interaction

I don’t get why that’s a surprise

Even reindog can do a 70% combo

[haughty marten]

but we need to burn all of our resources for it + we dont get a kill

now look at arya here, killing 1trickwootang at 0 round start
#clips message

[blazing swift]

I’m just saying they can do it. I know a LeBron James di full combo 70+

[blazing swift]

That’s so Di able

Literally twice

[haughty marten]

di ing wrong twice doesnt justify killing at 0, especially when it isnt immediately apparent where to di

show me the reindog combo that kills at 0 even with wrong di

[blazing swift]

If it was 1 wrong di I could understand like Finns that’s annoying.
But bro that’s 2

2 chances

#clips message the only combo that’s not diable and easy to pull off is this one

But even then you need to hit dagger and be close for down attack

[blazing swift]

Reindog doesn’t have 1 right now

[haughty marten]

the only combo that’s not diable and easy to pull off is this one
ok so you proved my point

she has access to easy 0tds off easy to hit moves

glad we agree

[blazing swift]

That’s not that easy to pull off

When fighting decent players

[haughty marten]

it seems to me that you just need to hit knife and then read di once

[blazing swift]

“Then read”

[haughty marten]

is tiering not based on perfect performance from both parties?

[blazing swift]

Sure

But I doubt people would approach when they have a dagger attached

The taz I versed wasn’t good

That’s why I was able to pull it off

[haughty marten]

but whats important is that the option is there, no?

its discouraging approaching the entire time the dagger is attached

and if you cant approach what do you do?

you have to let the arya approach

and the arya gets high damage / death off little interactions

[blazing swift]

People don’t approach a Batman when they have the bomb attach

Your point?

That’s how the game is

[haughty marten]

i think youre misunderstanding my point

the fact that you kind of have to let the opponent win neutral for the entire duration of knife makes it such a threat when its in play

[blazing swift]

Play floaty but not too high for 0 to death potential

[blazing swift]

The knife has cooldown. So many characters can make others give up neutral.

Going back to the Batman one he can kill you soo easily with the bomb

Look I’m not calling Arya mid but 0 to deaths and high damage conbos aren’t everything

[haughty marten]

and the knife isnt her only move :)
the argument for arya being top tier is that she has a lot of tools that are fast, active, surprisingly disjointed, and safe that lead into high damage and 0tds, while also having tools to discourage you from approaching (namely knife, but also the fact that a lot of the disjointed moves work well as punishes)
shes not as completely broken as joker/ig but is top tier nonetheless

[quasi ice]

This tab is so dead there are people playing top 3 characters coming here to whine about their lack of skill

Reindog is poop btw if you disagree ur just bad at the game period

[shell cargo]

Reindog is A tier if you disagree you suck with Reindog

[quasi ice]

What's A tier about Reindog?

[shell cargo]

Massive hitboxes, crystal gives solid stage control, strong spike with fire ball, very fast movement with air up b

[quasi ice]

I can name at least 12 other characters who have massive hitboxes as well except they don't die after the opponent sneezes and have actual combos

[haughty marten]

i disagree with 2 of the 4 things you said but hes high tier nonetheless

[quasi ice]

Crystal is situational lots of times all it does is buff you, Jerry is often times better even if it's not spammable

Air movement is true but it also makes him vulnerable and there are characters in this game who literally teleport lol

[haughty marten]

spindash is hands down the fastest movement in game atm

[shell cargo]

You have bad DI

Reindog weighs as much as Shaggy

[haughty marten]

reindog is among the heavier characters yeah

[quasi ice]

I'm not saying I die easily I'm talking about the character in general

90% of the Reindog players I've seen die at like 60dmg

[shell cargo]

90% of reindog players you've seen have bad DI

[quasi ice]

And he might have ok weight nowadays he's still a fatass

It's not about DI he's massive and gets caught too easily by dudes like Joker

[shell cargo]

It is about DI and characters like Joker are top 3 lmao

Reindog is A tier, not SSS+ tier like the monster that is Joker which the devs refuse to nerf

[quasi ice]

Naw

He's mid at best

[shell cargo]

Mid A tier yeah

Reindog is a strong character, if you disagree you're wrong

[haughty marten]

want to reiterate again that hes strong if you know what youre doing

top level players are killing it with reindog rn but hes really difficult and boring to play as and against

[shell cargo]

Reindog is fun idk wym

[quasi ice]

Against? Whenever I play against Reindog they die ezpz and have little presence in the battlefield outside of pounce

Even Taz is more boring to play against and he's like bottom 5

[haughty marten]

dawg has the greatest timeout potential of the cast because of spindash

[quasi ice]

Top level players also pick trash characters in other games and win tournies with them btw that's a bad argument

If ur spindashing ur not doing dmg lol

[haughty marten]

uh yeah thats the point

you spindash to camp

[blazing swift]

They lying to themselves

[blazing swift]

In terms of character ability and effectiveness Reindog isn’t better than TNJ, iron giant, garnet, gizmo, superman, wonderwoman, joker, Rick, Morty, Batman, Finn, Harley, black Adam and Arya stark

[blazing swift]

Maybe I missed some or some might be debateable but that’s still a lot

[blazing swift]

So either all these characters I mentions are High A - S tier

Or reindog just maybe isn’t A tier 🤷‍♂️

[haughty marten]

where did you get reindog being worse than garnet / rick? he's not

all the other characters you mentioned are indeed high A-S

which puts reindog at solid mid A tier

[earnest holly]

Reindog isn't A tier 😭

[blazing swift]

Garnet is good and balanced

Rick got 10x more potential than reindog I swear

[haughty marten]

no she isn't she's pretty convincingly mid

[blazing swift]

That’s what others have believed you to think.

They also said reindog was mid

[haughty marten]

you swearing that you have some sort of secret sauce with Rick doesn't excuse the fact that he has nothing for results and his moves are not in any way broken

[haughty marten]

who is this "they"?

[blazing swift]

The fact he has more potential than reindog is why I put him there

[haughty marten]

and how do you measure potential?

[blazing swift]

Tierlist rankers

[earnest holly]

Rick combo potential is way better then reindog i can assure you on that after playing him for only 10 minutes

[blazing swift]

More Combo potential

[haughty marten]

ok nossages is in chat and he has reindog at top of A tier

[blazing swift]

Yea because he plays him

[haughty marten]

more hits in a combo =/= more damage

man this is the reindog chat we all play him

[blazing swift]

Never said more damage

[haughty marten]

and I thought that you said that combos weren't everything in a character

[blazing swift]

I never said to not play him either, even I’m picking him up too

[blazing swift]

Yes that’s true but not when accounting for a characters potential

That’s why Arya is so high ranked

[haughty marten]

again, rick and garnet are pretty convincingly mid tier
they're well balanced characters, yes, which also means they don't really have the bull that the top tiers do

[blazing swift]

Rick could

[haughty marten]

ok, show me footage

[blazing swift]

Do you know what “could” is

[blazing swift]

Fr

[haughty marten]

could means hasn't yet

[blazing swift]

I mean

[haughty marten]

you're tiering on assumption 👍

[blazing swift]

Have you ever seen a reindog true combo that does 60+ damage before 2 days ago?

[haughty marten]

okay, have you seen a Rick win?

[earnest holly]

yes

[blazing swift]

I haven’t seen one in the server before me and lux did. That’s why I’m saying “could”

[haughty marten]

receipts?

[blazing swift]

💀 bro I have seen Velma win

[haughty marten]

again, you're tiering on assumption
objectively reindog has more sauce

[earnest holly]

Now you know this is not true

[haughty marten]

wdym not true

[earnest holly]

how do reindog have more sauce?

[blazing swift]

Then garnet maybe that’s true, rick hell no

[haughty marten]

jab sair
fireball spike
up tilt up air for <100% kills
spindash

[blazing swift]

💀

[haughty marten]

name something Rick can do

[blazing swift]

Sair into fireball will never be true

[earnest holly]

up tilt up air dont kill half the time tbh

[blazing swift]

Bro named random moves

[haughty marten]

you're prob not hitting the right part of the hitbox

[earnest holly]

it not even true

[haughty marten]

aim it to hit more closer to the beard / mouth and it'll kill easier

[blazing swift]

Fr

You can di away

This dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[haughty marten]

ok then drop the up air and do slide up tilt to catch the landing

[earnest holly]

jab sair is also not true it dont even work

[haughty marten]

💀

[earnest holly]

it dont 😂

[blazing swift]

Yh they nerfed it

And even if you do IAD sair

This whole combo is against a training bot set to no dodge

[haughty marten]

ok i dunno what you're saying anymore

[blazing swift]

Oh wait

Nevermind

[haughty marten]

jab sair is still true low-mid%, albeit with di reads and tight links

[blazing swift]

I misread

[blazing swift]

I thought this was all a combo

Mb

[haughty marten]

yeah I should have put dashes to make it being a list more obvious

mb

point being reindog is not as sauceless as he may seem from an outside perspective, and can catch a lot of people off guard even if they know his basic tools

he still does struggle to kill early compared to the conventional top tiers but makes up for it with one of the best advantages in the game

[blazing swift]

Yea his sair is keeping him alive ngl

[blazing swift]

A lot of combo starters

[earnest holly]

his sair use to combo into his fireball got nerf unfortunately

[blazing swift]

I think they reduced the hitstun right?

[haughty marten]

no, it sends at a sort of awkward angle

although I don't know if sair has ever comboed into fireball

[blazing swift]

Oh alright. Reindog getting a nerf👀👀👀

[haughty marten]

unless it's no resource air fireball

[blazing swift]

I remember when you could spam fire ball

Reindog was so good in beta

[earnest holly]

Aerial Side Attack
~ Knockback Angle is now more horizontal
Aerial Up Attack
~ Knockback Angle is now more horizontal

[blazing swift]

Ehh doesn’t seem that bad

[haughty marten]

it is pretty bad

sair air side b still works tho

[blazing swift]

But there was no reason for them to change up air attack

It makes no sense

[haughty marten]

true!

nobody understands why

esp when characters like joker can still kill at like 40 off up airs

[blazing swift]

If we are looking at the way he bites it should just go straight up

[blazing swift]

Bro I hate his up special into up air

[blazing swift]

Yea good finisher

[quasi ice]

Bro we're wasting time discussing how strong Reindog is

Because the way you do it in fighting games as far as I'm aware of is seeing how many good and bad matchups a character has

How many good matchups does Reindog have? Like, 6 or 7, tops? And 90% of these being bottom tier characters most of the cast poops on?

Like you can say Garnet Jason Taz etc. yeah the entire cast already poops on them lol

[unique grove]

Only Jason for those i can say confidently we win. But saying reindog has only 6 winning matchup for that its already good and probably not true. Also what is important too is how many do we lose which is for sure less number than those we win

[sly wharf]

how much of the cast is in a-s tier?

[quasi ice]

Half of it

[sly wharf]

ohhh

that makes sense

[shell cargo]

For 1s, Batman, Joker, maybe Morty, Wonder Woman, I think Iron Giant but I haven't fought enough to know myself, and I believe Finn is up there too (no particular order)

For 2s, no idea because I don't play that trash ass mode 🗣️

Oh wait you said "a-s tier" mb

Yeah half the cast is in there

[quasi ice]

1s is the same as 2s lol with the exception of a couple of characters like B-man who's op in 1s but mid in 2s

[sly wharf]

im suprised most people put reindog in b tier then since most of the a-s tier is a losing match up for them

[quasi ice]

These people have no idea what they're talking about

Also this game has a lot of trash characters

[shell cargo]

Ehh not really

Shaggy is decent in 1s but his lack of combo game can put him at a big disadvantage

In 2s? He's a menace

Those combo strings don't matter

Batman like you mentioned

[quasi ice]

Last time I played 1s Shaggy was busted but that was way back when

[shell cargo]

Joker is honestly not AS bad in 2s as he is in 1s

[quasi ice]

He got nerfed ever since

[shell cargo]

He's definitely still strong

He kills you VERY early still

It's just he has basically no kill confirms other than jab > jab > up b and he has no combos other than nair > jab > jab > dtilt > dash attack (longest possible Shaggy combo)

[woven trout]

it was listed as exclusive when it came out so i have a feeling it wont come back

[chilly iron]

Did they just remove Reindog's ability to kill, what am I missing

Everyone survives to insane percents now

[quasi ice]

Yep they did

They broke his most reliable kill tool (the air bite) and still haven't fixed it

They had fixed it in the beta but somehow broke it again and haven't fixed it ever since

They also nerfed both his tail swipes severely

They really wanted to reinforce this idea that "hur dur Reindog is meant to be a support he aint meant to kill!!!" even though there are plenty of characters in this game who can do both

[earnest holly]

This is so true

[earnest holly]

i was told you had to be on gaming console to get the exclusive
wish i could had gotten it

[shell cargo]

Morty in question

[next hinge]

Still my main but needs kill power ffs

[unique grove]

sair side special and sair up air do the job well I dont feel that way

reindog do so much damage too

at high percent (around 90-110 depend on character weight) you have sair loop to guaranted one of those two I said

also the last stand perk is an essential it make reindog have better combo and kill earlier by a lot

[next hinge]

I swear ever damn character feels so annoying to fight

[shell cargo]

Dash attack fr

Side b fr

Spiking fr

Reindog is one of the only characters who doesn't actually aim to kill solely off ladder combos

[quasi ice]

None of these work with most characters unless they're at like 130

Meanwhile Reindog dies at 50 if you're not careful

[shell cargo]

Major skill issue lmao

Reindog weighs the same as WW

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihEFHf01I8lKibPkAEavEaqZyU-VV9MGeKGZ-PmjeQM/edit?gid=736130214#gid=736130214

[blazing swift]

The difference is that Wonder Woman has armour and is fast

Also has a lot of combos compared to reindog

[shell cargo]

Okay but Reindog doesn't die at 50 which is the point

Thats the point I'm making by bringing up WW

[blazing swift]

Ngl 50 is exaggerating

[shell cargo]

I'm not saying Reindog is as good as WW but he is considerably heavier than this fellows saying

[blazing swift]

Yh true

[haughty marten]

ehhh in terms of disadvantage we dont really have many get out of jail free cards

you could make the case for aerial up special to get out of combos but its not really much of a panic option

[shell cargo]

Except you wont be dying at 50 unless the combo is true and would kill basically anyone at that percent because Reindog isn't light please stop trying to deflect my point with other issues my point isn't "Reindog is as good as WW" it's "Reindog weighs the same as WW and is not typically dying at 50%"

[haughty marten]

my point is that our disadvantage tools are kind of lacking
like jason, in a much lesser way

where its difficult to get out of juggles and combos

despite high weight

[shell cargo]

High weight makes you more susceptible to combos usually

Except for WW

Because her hurtbox is small

And she is small

[haughty marten]

ok but youre ignoring the meat of my argument

again, not usually dying at 50 unless to a top tier like arya

but it still does hurt a lot to get in disadvantage and not have a clear way out

[shell cargo]

My effective method for disadvantage is to take a nap and see where it gets me

[next hinge]

Dude mentioned side b like it kills earlier than like 150 unless off stage

[unique grove]

You can do sair (sair loop until opponent offstage) then side b to kill like at 100 of a sair

also if he Di sair up you end with up air

[next hinge]

Any clips by chance?

[unique grove]

maybe tommorow but too tired to post basic combo clip

[quasi ice]

And she has a sword and shield, all of Reindog's melee attacks he literally throws himself at the enemy

AND she's smaller

The weight changes are very welcome if not straight up necessary, I see myself surviving at 120+ dmg regularly, but Reindog is still fragile asf

[sick totem]

Just fought a Harley and then a batman back to back and wow you can tell the difference in character😭 I hate it

[quasi ice]

Major Reindog buffs come s2 or we riot

[unique grove]

major reindog buff and we have a top 5 character for sure

[shell cargo]

Mild Reindog buff and you have a top 1 character

[minor yew]

Reindog finally didn't get nerfed!

[solemn steppe]

Ground Side Special

• Fixed an issue where Reindog could use this attack in the air
  ^ this is a nerf to his tech from beta

you could extend his pounce distance when falling from platforms

but whatever tbh, it was a cool thing he could do and they removed it 🤷

i'm just glad he got some buffs

[minor yew]

Dammit

[solemn steppe]

the on hit ground only ptoo buff is weird but i'll take it since it's partially something I've been asking for

i think he needs on whiff recovery decrease too tbh

[minor yew]

I just wish they would revert his up air to be less horizontal.

[solemn steppe]

seriously

terrible change to begin with

[minor yew]

I hate that change so much

[solemn steppe]

like up tilt already doesn't branch well into up air (true) so.....??? some reindogs were getting early kills... okay?? we can't kill til later generally anyways like what's the issue

[minor yew]

I loved it because he can kill consistently but they took that away

[solemn steppe]

i still can't up air some characters at 120+ at top blast zone and ring them out

it's silly

but superman grab (that visually throws you sideways) throwing up and to the side is ok with 10x more knockback but reindog's up air can't be too vertical 🤡

[minor yew]

I don't know why they are afraid to give him kill options

[solemn steppe]

it's really weird tbh like it's giving incompetence

but i'll take the small buffs they're giving him here and there

[minor yew]

tru

[solemn steppe]

i appreciate them, i just hope it doesn't take several months to adjust him to where I'd like him to be

[sick totem]

They weren't crazy buffs but at least he wasn't nerfed so I guess I'll take it😮‍💨

They don't want to give reimdog anything that could make him even slightly threatening

[summer timber]

But Finn gets left alonw

[sick totem]

Damn near everyone else gets left alone lol I was playing a morty and when I got the kill his grenade gets to stay on the field but my crystal is destroyed when I die, like make it make sense

[main kraken]

getting really tired of lebron james or black adam absolutely dunking on me

pun not intended

I don't even like most of the characters in this game, and the ones I do like are all extremely underpowered

[quasi ice]

I'll say it again, most pointless character in the game rn

[undone void]

Why?

[quasi ice]

Almost nothing he can do someone else can't do better

Camping, pushing, combos

Surviving

Zoning

[quasi ice]

The only great thing about Reindog is when he's on the other team

You can prioritize him just like Iron Giant except it's not because he's such a threat but because he's an easy kill lmao

Man the balance in this game even outside of Reindog is sooo bad

Why does Shaggy's flying kick linger for so fkin long even after you dodge it or jump over it it can still hit you

[next hinge]

Skill issue Reindog is good, my best character

83% 1v1 ranked win rate rn

[quasi ice]

Yeah and top 5s have 50%< wr

[next hinge]

He’s not a top tier flavor of the month character but he’s not bad

[sick totem]

I don't think he's bad when you know what you're doing with his kit but barring your character knowledge of him just being compared to the other characters he's definitely lackluster

Need yall to give it straight to me, how's Samurai jack?

[quasi ice]

PFG I know you read this tab please fix Reindog's crystal overwriting knockbacks

I'm straight up almost not using it anymore because I keep running into situations where an opponent would die if not for the crystal hitting them right after me or my teammate hit them with a more powerful attack

[blazing swift]

Oh hell nah who’s that mf ranked 25

@unique grove post your clips and gameplay🙏🙏

[vapid rampart]

What perks do you guys use?

[vapid rampart]

Also any tips?

[sick flicker]

Snowball Last stand/movement and pugilist

Sigs you can either run 5% and Crystal Pal is somewhat viable

[unique grove]

I dont record anything

you can only watch tourney VOD for clips if you find some

[blazing swift]

Better start clipping

Your a reindog pro

[unique grove]

I dont find reindog clip interesting

[blazing swift]

I saw one yt vid where they called you #1 reindog like 8 months ago

[unique grove]

Was it arkonix ?

it was parsec Time so it has to been him

[blazing swift]

Yea

The taz

[unique grove]

at that Time I was for sure and still now the best in EU so as same as NA player do he called me best in the world