#Morty Smith

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ancient spire
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His grenade split is somehow less fun

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Im happy his rock wall is easier to punish if you miss though

fallow yarrow
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Lmao I still got it as Morty

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I’ve been trying to get rick to level 15 to get president Morty

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I had to check if I was still good with him

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I am :D.

ancient spire
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I still fully enjoy morty

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I use evil morty just for the sair reskin XD

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Getting to level 15 from 14 is such a grind though

fallow yarrow
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Oh I already got level 15 Morty

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Just need rick

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To get president Morty

narrow crane
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Tell me how are you suppose to play Morty then?

brisk tide
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split grenades suck i just realized how much i used the arc split to sky nuke people who got caught in my grenade path

fallow yarrow
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I used to do the same too

viscid palm
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with the split grenade, start using the hitbox on uptilt to send the closest grenade up

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it’s the best use for it rn

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i just wish the grenades were the normal weight

woeful anchor
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Speaking of Morty how is my Secondary Beta character. I don't even know what the best Perks are for him

viscid palm
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the grenade signature perk/5% signature perk, ignite, 100 perk, and pugilist

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for WW and whatnot i like to bring 2 fast 2 block instead of 100

fallow yarrow
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Lmao

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I’ve seen so many people switch up about Morty

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They were just using him because he was strong

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Not because they liked the character 😭

proud spade
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any tips on how to play Morty? I keep getting waxxed

brisk tide
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sair, dirt, up air

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those are his only moves

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spam them all

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nothing else exists

proud spade
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alright then

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I won't spam but I'll use those more

viscid palm
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blaster

narrow crane
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Only started playing him cause he was free

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Thought he was ass

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I actually like how Morty feels and moves

ancient spire
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If grenade split properly halved the time of the grenades

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I would be so happy

ancient spire
silk bough
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2K gleamium. Evil or president Morty?

green fog
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Tooniverse

viscid palm
brisk tide
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a morty is in top 8 in the Tymierr tournament right now

ancient spire
# silk bough 2K gleamium. Evil or president Morty?

Evil morty for esthetic, president morty for tryharding. If you want president morty, wait for a bundle to release so he is cheaper. Evil morty will recieve his own special voicelines later in the future, but im not sure about presidential morty.

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I use evil morty because of the forward air reskin and the cool intro

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But president morty is so smug

silk bough
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mid emote and icon

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hend bent over is infinity better than the listening emote

narrow crane
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Morty is fun asl man

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And he isn’t a top tier character

fallow yarrow
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In his leaked ones in evil Morty you can see he talks about the citadel and his presidencial campaign

ancient spire
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oh okay cool

ancient spire
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rn he is better than wonder woman and harley

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he still loses to people like shaggy and batman but every character does

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the only difference is that morty takes much more effort to preform just as well as other characters

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its like a challenge character but for a fighting game

fallow yarrow
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Lmao Morty is fun

narrow crane
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They’re all still beatable ofc

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But the match is just harder

fallow yarrow
viscid palm
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you’re high

ancient spire
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Morty has better options and coverage than her

viscid palm
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… what

ancient spire
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The only difference is that its much easier to preform well as wonderwoman then to preform well as morty

viscid palm
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okay actually trying to understand what you’re saying is going to give me real brain rot

ancient spire
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Boo hoo

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I feel ashamed playing wonder woman because she feels really fun but she gets looked down upon for being so strong

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But then i realize morty is still naturally strong

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And i love playing him

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So ive decided to just stop caring about how people look at characters like that

narrow crane
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Morty isn’t better than WW or Harley?

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What kinda take is this

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Morty is B-C tier

ancient spire
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I mean genuinely

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He probably is

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Ill never understand how people think he isnt at least an A tier though

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At least right now

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He has one of the largest dodges in the game

narrow crane
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Again

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Morty isn’t S tier or A tier

ancient spire
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Wdym didnt he get buffed

narrow crane
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You just went against a good Morty

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No

ancient spire
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His forward air is so much faster

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And his combo string connects into hammer better

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His mudwall isnt even less strong, it just has more linger when you miss

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Grenade splitting creates two grenades equally instead of practically removing them off the map

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With the only downside that you take a longer mudwall animation

ancient spire
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And i really do feel like he is better than 1.04

tranquil flax
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Just nerf morty, By far the best character in the game, Doesnt even take that much skill

viscid palm
vernal tree
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did they nerf Mortys axe??

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his axe attack is worse

still sandal
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made it so you can’t hit behind you

celest nexus
ancient spire
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Also the hitbox is more accurate

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Actually im not sure if its faster i just know it has a really fast active hitbox

ancient spire
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Or his cooldown issues

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And his lack of charged heavy moves

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I mean i guess hammer can be charged but nobody really uses that

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I mean 3 of his 4 special moves dont even work off of cooldown they literally don't have a function

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And all of his special moves are the same in the air

drifting plume
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She still top 5, Morty could be one of them but he's sooooo bugged

ancient spire
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Maybe im delusional loĺ

drifting plume
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If they nerf more ww or joker then maybe he could be the Next S tier for sure, but rn? Nah

ancient spire
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Maybe its just because all the wonder women i play are predictable braindead spammers

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I think pfg is trying to get every character to be like

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B tier

drifting plume
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Tbh I think this patch has been the most balanced for all the history of multiversus, even since the beta

They are going on a good way, the only problem is that they are slooooow

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Joker still op and ww still op but I don't want to play against something like stripe on release

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(When he got release on the beta, not this version)

viscid palm
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i think it’s a Z axis problem

drifting plume
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Man I understand that second fair was hitting from behind
but now it feels sooooo bad omfg

drifting plume
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Is it easier to play with the nades or I just got better at doing so? lmao

ancient spire
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Grenades are fun to kill with

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Especially when i learned to angle the initial throw

crisp vigil
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Is Mortys uair bugged?

fallow yarrow
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Dosent seem so?

winged barn
fallow yarrow
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Y’all fr?

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I’ve haven’t been noticing anything wrong

fallow yarrow
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The only problem I have

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Is that that whip has a dumb ahh hit box

viscid palm
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more commonly this patch

fallow yarrow
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I’ve never incountered it

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I guess I’m so lucky

brisk tide
brisk tide
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if you parry someon

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up special

fallow yarrow
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Holy crap

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Can you hit that in game?

brisk tide
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i will try

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cannot parry taz' cloud

fallow yarrow
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Use dirt

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That can knock him out of the cloud

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And it’s easier

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When he does that beacuse his hit box

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Becomes larger

viscid breach
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Is morty a good character?

fallow yarrow
drifting plume
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I played against elijah yesterday but he was playing banana guard whyyyyy 😭

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I wanted to see the morty

narrow crane
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Morty needs a dura buff on his grenades

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Why does it disappear in one hit?

viscid palm
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cause it’s a light projectile i believe

drifting plume
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Fair 2 feels so bad that sometimes I want to leave the game

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that + the stun gun hitting but not stunning at all... man

tawny mica
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Is whip not true?

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I keep doing it

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And it’s not working sometimes

silk bough
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Head bent over is discounted, do I buy it?

drifting plume
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Is not worth anymore unless you are against someone charging an attack like finn? obvs with no armor

tawny mica
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Im ngl

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Im not sure how to feel about morty post patch then

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What even is his combo game

tawny mica
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Was morty accidentally gutted and will get fixed

drifting plume
tawny mica
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How do you even like

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Set up juggles?

drifting plume
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I do think they are going to fix it fast enough

drifting plume
# tawny mica Set up juggles?

At the start of the game I do stun gun + down air + up air

The enemy ends up in the air so just start predicting, I like thinking a lot of people dodge to the left, if you catch it then up air into the other side, they normally don't dodge again to the same place

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You can do the same with dirt at 30-40 %

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And also you can do nade aiming adove and you start hitting it with up air

tawny mica
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Or am I crazy

drifting plume
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They can dodge after the first up air

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But it's 50/50 most of the time as I said, it's a predict, if you hit the place where they are going to dodge you get more dmg, if not then normally there's nothing so much to worry

tawny mica
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So like

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We need to waste resources and make a read for a juggle

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In stead of a basic jab string into whip dair up air

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💀

drifting plume
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He's hard to play tbh

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He has 3 attack moves that are really really good
Stun gun, Up air, and Dirt

Also nades, they are really hard to understand sometimes but really, take a look to them, a lot of times you can kill so early with them that makes you win a game

tawny mica
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It makes the rest of his kit a lot better for it

native knot
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Beat nikkilicks earlier with morty and my rick teammate

viscid palm
viscid palm
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he also has the best disadvantage state in the game

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if not the best, top 3

drifting plume
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But still, you are telling the true

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Some characters have sooo much trouble trying to approach morty

viscid palm
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well upair is very strong too

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almost no whiff, good damage, and great kill potential

drifting plume
viscid palm
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i honestly find morty very boring to play

wise steppe
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rn all the tech he really has is pb grenades

viscid palm
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yea i agree

wise steppe
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and dirt is stupid

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i hate facing off against mortys who camp the entire game w dirt

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rn as he is morty has overtuned and undertuned things in his kit

drifting plume
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Like 3 movements carry ALL of morty

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And they are probably nerfing dirt even more

ancient spire
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i miss grenade shrapnel so damn much

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the problem with mortys who camp is that they are kinda forced to-

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most of mortys good moves are really exploitable and most of mortys bad moves are literally unusable

drifting plume
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Today I had a tournament run, I didn't got into top 8 but I won against a steven with morty
I WON
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I NEEDED

ancient spire
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Morty buff

fallow yarrow
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Buff?

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Why? Buff?

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He’s still good

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Whiff on dirt is good beacuse now u can’t spam it u have to do blaster and dirt to confirm dirt and you can read where the opponent is gonna go

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He’s still good

ancient spire
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why cant you respect that morty main said morty buff

fallow yarrow
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Beacuse y’all are still downplaying Morty

ancient spire
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Nah i was just kidding i mained him when he came out in beta he’s good if you know how to use him

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But i do expect a nerf 😔

fallow yarrow
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He already got nerfed

ancient spire
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Nah but people are complaining about him alot in the discord

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i expect a earth cooldown

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and fire being nerf as well

fallow yarrow
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Frick nah

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The devs know that if they do Morty is gonna be freaking dead

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Dirt is good rn

wise steppe
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also i was just facing a morty

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hammer didnt kill my marvin at 140😭

fallow yarrow
fallow yarrow
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Since it’s just jab jab jab

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His down special should still have the collision to hit opponents

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Pretty sure we are getting new moves too

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Then why give him buffs

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If they nerf dirt and granades

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Then they need to buff him

fallow yarrow
wise steppe
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even though it has whiff its still strong lol

fallow yarrow
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That dosent mean no shitAngryMarvin

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That move needs to be strong to set up kills

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He’s at a good position rn

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Even with the nerf

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Tell me rn

wise steppe
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wdym

fallow yarrow
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If the didn’t want to make it strong then why is it still strong now

wise steppe
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ur asking me to tell you how dirt isnt supposed to be strong

wise steppe
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well they have

fallow yarrow
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The whiff is a nerf

wise steppe
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but no meaningful nerfs

fallow yarrow
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That’s the point they knew they couldn’t fuckAngryMarvin up his character even more

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Or then he couldn’t be able to kill

wise steppe
wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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With granade

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And the nair 2

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Up air That’s it

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Do you see this shitAngryMarvin 3 fuckinAngryMarvin ways to kill 3 and if it wasent for dirt Morty would off sucked

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They know they can’t nerf dirt

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They know that

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
wise steppe
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also stop swearing sm

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😭

fallow yarrow
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I meant its an actual part of his kit that he needs

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If it gets nerfed we are so dead

wise steppe
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dirt was never smth he needed in the beta

fallow yarrow
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Have u actually seen Morty by the chance?

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Are u actually fr rn

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Did u even play as him in the beta

wise steppe
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mhm

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i was

fallow yarrow
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I was?

wise steppe
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morty didnt rely on dirt in the beta

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dirt wasnt all that strong in the beta but the rest of his kit was pretty strong

fallow yarrow
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Dude we are not in beta anymore 💀 why the hell are you bringing up beta

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And yes it was still used more times in beta

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Just beacuse u didn’t use it Dosent mean people didn’t

wise steppe
wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Ong your not going anywhere with the points your making

wise steppe
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all they gotta do is nerf dirt and buff the other parts of his kit

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dirt and grenades are overtuned

fallow yarrow
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Granades need to stay the same way

wise steppe
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grenades kill way too early

fallow yarrow
wise steppe
fallow yarrow
wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Cmon

wise steppe
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plumbus

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hammer

fallow yarrow
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Plumbus?

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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The shield breaking move

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Plumbus

wise steppe
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it used to apply one weakened

fallow yarrow
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recall?

wise steppe
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you used to have a hitbox on recall

fallow yarrow
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really what do you wanna buff about that

wise steppe
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meaning you could do grenade traps

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give it back its hitbox

fallow yarrow
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thats not a buff

wise steppe
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yes it is

fallow yarrow
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thats a returning feature

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completly different+

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they made the choice to remove it for a reason

wise steppe
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not really, a buff is giving a character smth to work w

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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Not that

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Plus we are getting something from the cool down of down special

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Probably air

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Or water

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So it’s better this way

fallow yarrow
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What about hammer

wise steppe
fallow yarrow
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a what

wise steppe
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knockback

fallow yarrow
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I’m disappointed beacuse you should of said earlier jab

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Morty jab is very slow

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As of now

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So it would of been cooler and if they nerf dirt and granades jab needs to be quicker

sour karma
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so if I hit someone at a high percent with a forward air, it feels like it hits them too far to connect with anything. What's the follow-up? Or is it just not a move that's supposed to work at higher percents?

mortal pike
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Saw somebody pulling off some nutty combos yesterday, I feel like Morty is personally getting back into a state where I want to play him like back in the beta. Outside of some bad hit boxes how does everyone feel about Morty?

drifting plume
drifting plume
viscid breach
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Is there a guide how to play morty?

drifting plume
tawny mica
viscid palm
tawny mica
ancient spire
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Not even the whip works 90% of the time

ancient spire
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Though mortys gameplay isnt combo based most of the time

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Many guides cover kill options, but touch less on grenade throwing

fallow yarrow
ancient spire
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I meant works as in

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Sometimes people wont dodge

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Or sometimes they are out of dodges

fallow yarrow
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and also just beacuse some characthers have jab jab jab that kill dosent mean that morty should lol

ancient spire
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Okay but mortys jab sucks

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It loses to most other jabs in the game

fallow yarrow
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tell that to the devs

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and see if they do anything

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they wont like every single time

ancient spire
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I just think that jab should have a use

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Instead of just

fallow yarrow
ancient spire
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Morty hammer perk

fallow yarrow
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we are litterarly last c tier

ancient spire
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Perks shouldn't define an attack they should build off of them

fallow yarrow
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we have been fuckedAngryMarvin by the devs already

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and probably if they decide to change morty

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it wont be for good

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probably another nerf

ancient spire
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Also i get that list is based on win rate

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But i think its not fair in the slightest

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I think its based more on average player skill then the characters themselves

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Like why is shaggy in B tier

drifting plume
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Morty on this patch feels so clunky to play and I hate it

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The change to fair 2 sucks
The bug that makes people bounce on a platform and they can't recieve any attack suck
The stun gun bug that doesn't allow you to follow combos sucks

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I'm close to level 15 morty, this patch feels like hell

wise steppe
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stripe, steven and morty dont feel as good this patch

viscid breach
ancient spire
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It works really well

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Also dont side special when the approach, it leaves you in a big blindspot if the dodge it

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Dont use the mudwall from too far away

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Its very predictable

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For the grenades,

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You can angle the initial throw of them

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Its great for edgeguarding

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If you want more secure detonation you can foward air your grenades into your opponents

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Grenades have a hitbox if they go fast enough

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If you leave your grenades on the map you can try to hit your opponents into them for a clean detonation

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If you use the "oh thats still a grenade" perk, its also much easier to detonate grenades on the map

drifting plume
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Dang I was going to write something but... yeah, what PunKakes said is the best way to use the two moves, I agree with everything

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Just a small tip, try to not let your nades rolling against characters like: Steven, Tom and Jerry, Rick, other mortys or anyone who have a lot of projectiles

They get erased most of the time, we don't know if it's a bug but for some reason ANY projectile touching a nade automatically destroy it

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In that type of matchups launch the nade and use it, as fast as possible

native siren
ancient spire
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Yo mortys pls send me a dm

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you wont regret it

vernal tree
vernal tree
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I don't respect anyone who spams the gun button and mudwall with Morty.

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That's just being bad imo

tacit totem
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it is so unfun to play against morty '-'

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what do you guys think are the best and the worst match up for Morty ?

thick wharf
tacit totem
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Bro you just listing all the good characters at this point unless Morty 🤣

thick wharf
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I'm not a great Morty player lol

solemn bisonBOT
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@river totem No invite links.

river totem
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If you are a Morty main we have a page with nothing but Morty players inbox me for a invite

viscid palm
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the other ones are ww and joker

brisk tide
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guys i just hit the sickest combo

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check it out

modern nebula
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Best perk setup?

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Gonna learn some Morty

brisk tide
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plumbus perk for bullet hell characters

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grenade or hammer for everything else

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fire perk in the first slot of normal perks

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everything else is whatever

drifting plume
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I really don't understand if is it me or dirt goes slower or faster on different maps

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Istg that it goes slower on big maps

brisk tide
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big maps are laggier

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this isnt a well optimized game

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some theorize that the camera zoom and game speed is easier on the game so it runs smoother

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when it zooms out its easy to see the game start lagging most of the time

slender isle
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Why the hell this character has the highest frame data in the entire game

vernal tree
slender isle
tacit totem
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Still means nothing btw

dreamy anvil
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Hey guys anyone who's stuck on megalodog try Morty's ufo

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He gets confused and doesn't jump off til it's too late

drifting plume
drifting plume
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The custom cart doesn't have any pack with evil morty btw?

crisp vigil
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Morty doesn't even need to learn to play 😭🙏

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Y'all so character carried 😭🙏

drifting plume
crisp vigil
drifting plume
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But it's because of the hidden mmr, you get against worst players

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That happened to me yesterday with batman

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I still think he gets so many free ladders but probably a batman main is going to tell me that he's weak

crisp vigil
drifting plume
crisp vigil
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So Morty kills easily lol

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If he can easily apply weakened, he can kill easily

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Batman can kill early partially because of how much weakened he stacks on people

drifting plume
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He only has like 2 kill moves tbh, not that crazy knowing other characters tbh

crisp vigil
crisp vigil
drifting plume
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Nades are pretty broken ngl, they are probably going to receive a nerf

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But I don't think up air kill early, as I said is weakened

brisk tide
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morty has a learning curve but once you do learn him hes very good

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hes not easy and the he does not carry players

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he cant carry players because you cant braindead him

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the most braindead you can get is dirt upair but you wont get far with that alone

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i agree weakened should just be removed from the game entirely

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theres no reason to have it

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grenades are not broken, they just have high damage and kill power but hitting enemies with them is hard because the physics suck

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rebalance them to beta

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thats what i would like

vernal tree
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did you pray today

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did you pray today

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cus if you didn't

fallow yarrow
narrow crane
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All of them

faint delta
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new morty skin droping in season 2 revealed on stream

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YERT

narrow crane
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What was the skin

faint delta
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i cant send imgs in here ill upload it and send a link

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but it was the leaked one with the edgerunners jacket

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heres a pic of it,, imgur not loading for me

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new morty, rick, and superman skin

narrow crane
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Stupid ass devs needs to fix morty jab

brisk tide
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whats wrong with it

narrow crane
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It’s beatable

drifting plume
green fog
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yo jtsauce, if you're in here ggs

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your morty is cracked

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^i was the agent smith

viscid breach
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Should I buy the evil morty skin cuz I am thinking about that I am gonna main morty

drifting plume
ancient spire
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sup nerds

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any tips on BEATING THE CRAP out of morty? he’s one of my worst matchups rn 😁

drifting plume
ancient spire
drifting plume
# ancient spire I usually play garnet 😔

Damn, garnet is a really good matchup for morty ngl, she's really weak this patch
Morty abuse very well against characters who are better in the ground that in the air, a good general tip is that you shouldn't try to stay in the ground doing things that let you there for much time, like charging an attack or trying to jab guessing where he is going to dodge, I really reccommend playing your neutral using a lot of fair, garnet fair is really good and if I'm not wrong it leads into jab, that can give you some combos, try to juggle him if you can, just remember, the first time he uses portal with dodge meter he gets armor, it's like a free escape but if you know it you can abuse it

Just, don't just run and attack him, he is really good covering ground, specially because he has stun gun and dirt

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Try to get better at your fair into jab combos, it's going to help a lot, not just in this matchup but against many others

ancient spire
viscid breach
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How do I approach someone with morty

tacit totem
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you dont

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lol

brisk tide
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invest in the plumbus

brisk tide
viscid palm
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better to just embrace the dirt l

proper bane
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I respect y'all a lot. I wish I was good with Morty. When y'all destroy me I just sit and laugh it's always fun playing against Morty players.

viscid palm
proper bane
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Everybody complains about dirt but I think it's cool. Always felt like Morty takes skill so I don't mind at all plus I like the character

viscid palm
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playing morty optimally isn’t too difficult once you are comfortable with grenades

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but at a high level it’s literally just dirt upair for 3 stocks for the most part

proper bane
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Since you said that though I might try him out more. I'm at about 54 wins with Morty

viscid palm
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if he hits you with jab jab and tries whip just mash dodge in a direction it will never hit you

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yea morty has a very straightforward gameplan

proper bane
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I think I have a habit of just taking the hits sometimes especially when I'm Jason. Just assume it's gonna hit me anyway. Been hit too many times while behind people

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Appreciate you spilling the beans

narrow crane
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The hardest thing for me with Morty is nade control I don’t understand it

viscid palm
native knot
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morty is goated

drifting plume
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What do you all have as a secondary character? I'm thinking on learning finn maybe for matchups that are harder for me as morty (Like arya and steven)

native knot
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I really wanted to make superman work but I couldn't so Morty is now my main

normal dome
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why does morty teabag op? they just spam dodges then go f tot their ships or just lay on the ground. what a great character concept.

fallow yarrow
normal dome
fallow yarrow
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Lmao hate the devs for the animation then

normal dome
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ı do no worrys

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ı hate them they gave us a great game

brisk tide
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every morty should know that crouching will regenerate dodge meter

viscid palm
brisk tide
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shaggy and black adam are the other characters im tryin out

hot magnet
viscid palm
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he gets comboed easy

autumn pendant
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I just bought morty

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Any tip?

brisk tide
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dirt upair

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point blank grenades

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thats the tip

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snake gun into any move

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anotha one

crisp vigil
# brisk tide dirt upair

All any Morty does but unlike any other character spamming, this ones basically impossible to counter because it has no whiff and infinite range

viscid palm
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certain characters have an easier time punishing him

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and some just can’t

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when you’re against a morty spamming dirt in neutral you wanna be a little more aerial

autumn pendant
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I need an combo

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Ik the gameplan of morty

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But there its any combo for him that its true

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I only khow jab down tilt into stun gun then freestyle

viscid palm
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jab blaster grenade toss and grenade explosion is true

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anything after blaster is true

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blaster into dirt is true

drifting plume
drifting plume
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If only the game let you do something like jump and dodge, maybe then we could do something

crisp vigil
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He has insane stage control and getting hit by it puts you in a 5 billion damage combo or you get killed

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He cant be punished after he uses it either because theres abysmal whiff

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Morty is a top tier rn

drifting plume
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But we can't right? Impossible to counter, Morty is just S tier, joker and wonder woman are a joke

crisp vigil
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Joker is in his own tier lmao

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MultiVersus players all do this same thing where you point out one issue and they deflect it and say "WeLl X hAs ThE sAmE iSsUe!!" That isn't what we're talking about!

drifting plume
#

Yeah but saying dirt is impossible to counter is a joke lmao, unless you are a big slow character like IG or Jason most of the times you can just jump, dodge and abuse Morty after the whiff

crisp vigil
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The 2 whiff frames

drifting plume
#

Even I do that when I play any other character lol

crisp vigil
#

Really long window there yup

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You can only stay in the air so long

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Morty is broken and you're biased 🤷‍♂️

drifting plume
drifting plume
silver creek
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Bring love to Morty

brisk tide
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Any armor will bypass dirt easily

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Charged side kick nullifies dirt

tame oar
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The mudwall is still iffy with me.

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It shouldn’t give weakened since it’s easy to spam imo.

brisk tide
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Agreed

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Remove weakened and define it ad a projectile

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Easy nerf

tame oar
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You can do that or either nerf its movement speed, since it moves at the speed of Morty himself.

frozen lance
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My main problem is seeing characters that are really good complained about since really we need bad characters buffed from what I’ve seen (I don’t know what to reply to so just putting this here since I read the above messages)

viscid palm
#

morty is s tier tho

viscid palm
viscid palm
tame oar
viscid palm
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making everyone absurdly broken will not balance the game, it will jsut make a broken game

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i would put most characters in about the same tier rn, which imo is pretty good balance

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but when the only characters you see online are ww joker morty IG it’s hard to see the strength in your character sometimes

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especially as a character like jason garner taz

crisp vigil
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There's characters with 0tds, loops, kill power that kills you at 60%, etc.

frozen lance
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Understandable

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My main thing is I thought quite a few characters are/were underpowered, so having all characters underpowered is, well, kinda boring

viscid palm
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also nerfing top tier doesn’t make them under powered, it makes them average

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like i said most of the cast is on the same tier rn

brisk tide
#

one of the biggest problems with this game is that the bottom tiers feel the most balanced

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the bad characters are the only balanced ones

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every good character is unbalanced

frozen lance
viscid palm
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jake and velma no one really knows yet

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nobody is really playing them

frozen lance
#

I was under the impression most bottom tiers got skill issued and were just not made good

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Well then yeah nerfs

viscid palm
#

the low tiers only feel so bad because the most popular characters are the oppressive high tiers

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yk what i mean?

frozen lance
#

Yeah I get it

crisp vigil
tawny mica
#

Ngl Morty is really solid but a lot of his gameplan is consistent micromanagement of nades within his decent neutral.

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His main issue imo is like some actual horrid match ups

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Black Adam is really bad for Morty in my experience

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(As someone who mains Adam, Morty, and Batman myself)

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Quick question

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Does the grenade perk make the base size of the nade smaller if you detonate it super early?

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It says that the nade size is relative to the cook amount. If that’s the case obv a fullly cooked nade has a larger radius.

What about a nade that isn’t or is minimally cooked? Could it potentially have a smaller radius than a nade that isn’t cooked without the perk?

tacit totem
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Morty is one character that have actually usefull perks waw

tacit totem
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what do you guys use as perk for Morty ?

brisk tide
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plumbus

autumn pendant
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Grenade

brisk tide
autumn pendant
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I dont like that tod

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You could do better oned without plumbus

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Tbh grenades are better

tacit totem
#

I was on hammer but yeah grenade might be the best

autumn pendant
viscid palm
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imo grenade or 5% are top 2

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plumbus is matchup dependent i don’t use it tho

drifting plume
#

When did that happen

viscid palm
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they nerfed the horizontal movement

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and since they made jab 3 more reliable i don’t think the spin perk is really worth running

drifting plume
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I actually leave that signature perk bcuz I find jab pretty much trash

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At least jab 1

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Like 90% of the time it trades for no reason

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Now I'm a still a grenade user, didn't know it was good till today

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well not today, since some time ago

viscid palm
#

yea jab 1 is bad but when you hit it i personally prefer normal hammer but its preference

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the grenade perk can be really clutch

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and i find myself juggling grenades until the timer runs out anyways so i like it

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especially with something like an upair or uptilt setup

drifting plume
#

And I feel like hammer just do so little dmg

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Idk if it's just me

viscid palm
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and kills… sometimes

viscid breach
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Why his whip so bad it doesn't even hit half of the time

blissful dagger
#

So cringe fighting this character

tacit totem
#

Morty s jab is not the worst in the game belive me

brisk tide
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its very close to the worst

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until it UFOs you

drifting plume
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It's basically useless unless you are fighting against someone bad that doesn't know it's a free parry

wise steppe
#

playing against a morty gotta be the most frustrating thing ever sometimes

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playing neutral against morty sucks

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dirt was a mistake☹️

pale zealot
#

is there a morty discord?

pale zealot
brisk tide
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T:

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cant post links

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idk where it would be posted

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its the morty town discord server

pale zealot
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can you dm the link to me?

brisk tide
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sure

pale zealot
#

preesh

proper bane
fallow yarrow
twin tendon
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Tbh, they need to buff Morty… it’s basically impossible to kill without the grenades.

brisk tide
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i kill with dair and sair 2 as well

drifting plume
brisk tide
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i kill with it off stage

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under 100

drifting plume
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I sometimes forget that attack exists cuz it's soooo inconsistent for me at least
Unless I use stun gun, that's the only way I can hit that move

restive aspen
#

they need to nerf morty

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like NERF him

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idk if this is an issue with the game or the players but morty is a bruiser

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literally every morty i've fought no one approaches

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0 morty's approach

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stay at the other edge of the map throw projectiles and u win the game

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and keep running

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the gameplan itself needs a change

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if that's how u should play morty then that's an issue

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this type of zoning is never okay nor balanced for his gameplay

winged atlas
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Fix Mortys Whip

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Rework his Kit to fit a approach style

winged atlas
#

If they only nerf dirt the will ruin the character cuz dirt is his only good move

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So yeah rework Morty if they are nerfing dirt

autumn pendant
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They need to buff his jabs thats all, thats why morty dont approach bc we have trash jabs so...

viscid palm
#

your best approaching tool is sair

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sair loses to stuff like joker jab and other random stuff and is inconsistent

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blaster and dirt are his best tools

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he needs nerfs tho i agree

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but you’re not even suggesting anything you’re just crying

restive aspen
#

read what i've said before u say i'm " crying about morty being broken "

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it is broken

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it needs nerfs

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but having a bruiser character with this type of zoning is unacceptable

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needs huge nerfs on dirt blaster and every hey i'm standing on the edge and i'm never approaching tool

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now on the approaching side

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i don't know if the people who play morty legit sucks and can't play him

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or they just don't bother

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i've seen clips of him in tournies and on stream this character can approach

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anyways morty is 100% in the top 3 characters currently
unbalanced, broken hell i might even say he is the best character in 1s

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" my only kill option is nair " womp womp womp

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broken character, needs nerfs to force players to actually play the game instead of just saying hey i have a broken character where i can stand on the other side of the map and still win so why bother approaching

frozen lance
#

The main thing is I think the side special is the main place to nerf

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Or change cooldown on grenades

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Tho that would also incentivize more camping

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Its why personally the cooldown system for nerfing things is flawed

drifting plume
#

I agree he is top 3 in 1's but saying he is the best? Nah, he just have the best disadvantage in all the game but ww, joker and even iron giant are way to broken to be worried about the characters who only was two overtuned attacks

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That's the problem with him, 70% of his kit is pretty much trash, 30% is overtuned, he needs some nerf on dirt and buff on other moves cuz rn he probably has the worst jab of all the game, the worst up tilt and debatable the most niche down tilt in all the game

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Also nobody said he only kills with nair, maybe you are in the wrong channel lol

brisk tide
viscid palm
frozen lance
#

Could Morty need nerfs? Yeah, is there much bigger issues in terms of characters currently? Definitely

viscid palm
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nah dirt and made knockback need nerfs

drifting plume
#

I really think they would fix the state of the game and morty if they remove weakened, if they keep crying about dirt into upair then they need to learn what a kill confirm is

frozen lance
#

If you can outright fish for it

drifting plume
# frozen lance If you can outright fish for it

That happens on other plat fighters too lol?
Have you played smash ultimate? like have you seen how roy can kill with like 3 inputs?
How about meele puff? she can kill someone at 50% with a grab/up air

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And they fish for that all the time I mean

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There's a reason why it's called kill confirm

frozen lance
#

Alongside you can punish Roy for fishing for jab or Joker for fishing for fair 1

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Shield and punish

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Most of these are based off of having to find a method to get in and play around the opponent

drifting plume
# frozen lance And are they not high tiers?

Roy's not even top 3 tbh, still, there's so much characters in that game that has kill confirm that are sooo so easy, like wario (he's not a top tier and only has one person representing him), literally up air into down b is a kill confirm

The problem with morty is that he can kill early because of weakened, not that the kill confirm is easy to hit

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But people keep crying that you can't punish dirt when you actually can, it also depends on your character

frozen lance
#

It also depends on where you are

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If you are away from Morty then the end lag doesn’t matter unless you have a good projectile

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If your close to him then hes gonna get toasted

frozen lance
#

But killing early also does have a lot to do with it, Marth can kill incredibly early but the main thing is its hard to hit, which makes it balanced

wise steppe
#

morty beats half of the roster with dirt alone its insane how good it is

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his entire neutral just revolves around dirt

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he needs buffs and also more moves

frozen lance
#

Dirt needs a rework of some form, then buffs

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Since having one overcentralizing move is not healthy for a character in the slightest

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Superman is a perfect example of this in beta where he would abuse one thing, then that gets nerfed, then spams another move and that gets nerfed. He became a character that is generally seen as very unhealthy

brisk tide
brisk tide
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did it again

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this combo requires an uptilt at the end

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after the down air

brisk tide
brisk tide
autumn pendant
#

Pls teach me how to do it

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Like type it

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Maybe got to do it even faster?

brisk tide
#

jab > blaster > UFO > dirt > side air predict knockback) > dirt > down air (predict knockback) > up blaster

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ufo comes before dirt

autumn pendant
#

Aaaa so you predict khockback

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Didnt khow

brisk tide
#

morty is very inconsistent character with very Di-able combos so you have to adjust for your opponent flying in different directions every time

ancient spire
#

That combo is beautiful

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The hard part is actually landing thr jab XD

brisk tide
#

correct

river totem
#

2v2?

ancient spire
#

Dont you ever just hate that first game of the day

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Where you arent warmed up but they also don't go to round 2

modern nebula
ancient spire
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What i hate most

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Is when my warm up match is against another morty

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Because i feel like morty is the character that feels the most dominance when against a mirror match

blissful dagger
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Lamest character to fight against by a mile

winged atlas
#

U both got destroyed by a Morty so sad to hear it 😂

agile dawn
#

no actually i just happened to stumble upon this channel 😄

crisp vigil
fallow yarrow
crisp vigil
fallow yarrow
#

And thank god we are not the same

crisp vigil
#

Anyways weakened as a whole gotta be removed nobody should be allowed just getting up to 25% more damage and knockback 🙏

crisp vigil
fallow yarrow
#

I’m just talking lol

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Ur the one who’s like this

crisp vigil
#

Ahah ur mad

fallow yarrow
#

Yea yea

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Always the same arguments with you

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U don’t even play the character💀

crisp vigil
#

Ahahaha ur so mad ahaha

fallow yarrow
#

Yea yea

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Keep talking

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Also why are u always talking here

crisp vigil
#

Aha ur mad

fallow yarrow
#

Aha ur mad

crisp vigil
#

Yea yea
Keep talking
Also why are u always talking here

fallow yarrow
#

Yea yea
Keep talking
Also why are u always talking here

crisp vigil
#

Aha ur mad

fallow yarrow
#

Aha ur mad

maiden pollen
winged atlas
winged atlas
agile dawn
#

it stinks in here

winged atlas
drifting plume
#

Basically, that's just what it is

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He just become a rage bait type of person, not like there's at least 1 on every other character channel

fallow yarrow
#

RICK AND MORTYS WE WON

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RICK AND MORTY SKINS IN PRESTIGE

vernal tree
#

let's go!

crisp vigil
# winged atlas They should just add cooldown to it

They should remove the debuff as a whole
Iron Giant gets WAY too much out of last stand, Batman can spam weakened, Shaggy's specials instantly give his next attacks +15% damage and knockback, if Arya's teammate dies, she can apply full stacks of weakened allowing her and her teammate to deal 25% more damage and knockback it's just such a ridiculous debuff

crisp vigil
untold rover
#

yo my usual morty is sick rn is there any available for couple 2v2s ? in and out i promise

wise steppe
#

weakened in this game is way too strong

crisp vigil
#

Fr but it just gets buffed by Iron Giant

wise steppe
#

characters like batman get away with it too much💀

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even last stand abusers

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i dont mind weakened on stuff like shaggy rage

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but dirt weakened is way too free

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2x weakened, lot of hitstun, free follow up, breaks projectile

frozen lance
#

Bruh

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Wait, what does weakened do?

winged atlas
crisp vigil
crisp vigil
#

Anyways, you play Morty and lost to a Velma I don't wanna hear it

winged atlas
#

Did i lose to a Velma

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Ooohh

crisp vigil
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Like 2 days ago

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3 stocked

winged atlas
#

I never said thet lol

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Always won against Velmas

crisp vigil
#

It would be embarrassing to lose to the worst character in the game with Morty

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Especially if he's your main because you're supposed to know how to play him

winged atlas
#

I looks pretty good tbh

crisp vigil
#

Ofc I will have a definitive main that will NEVER change even if they release him in an unplayable state

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But he's a swordie so he'll always be good

agile dawn
#

enemies to lovers

winged atlas
#

I have no enemies

gentle lake
#

I have a lot of enemies

vernal tree
#

Morty got a w patch note

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They nerfed his mudwall tho

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but lots of buffs and bug fixes

gentle lake
#

Oh man, oh geez, I am fired up right now.

winged atlas
#

They made him good for close range now

open terrace
#

yea he lost some dirt range but got like 5 buffs

winged atlas
#

Guys, Morty's buff made him less dependent on dirt, nothing else, giving more kill comfirms that dont use dirt thats it

ancient spire
#

Dirt was nerfed. W

restive aspen
#

they literally said let's buff his kit
and still if the person wants to be campy he can

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they didn't nerf dirt at all

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if u call that range thing a nerf

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still spammable
people are still going to camp with morty
the only thing happened this patch with morty from just looking at the patch

winged atlas
restive aspen
#

people were saying morty is a t3 character pre patch

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now he is easily a t1

open terrace
#

well thats just not true bro

restive aspen
#

dirt has everything

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just less range

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while the entire kit is buffed

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call that a nerf to dirt

open terrace
#

if you think morty is top 1 you dont know what your talking about sorry

winged atlas
waxen void
#

curious what the new annoying move Morty has to spam now

open terrace
#

literally. i dont even main morty btw. and hes not even top 5

restive aspen
open terrace
#

there is a difference between annoying to fight and top tier

restive aspen
#

DIRT

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HAGHHAHAHA

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lmao

waxen void
#

dont think it was ever jab, bet it's that

restive aspen
restive aspen
#

so u can spam it

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but u have a more buffed up kit morty

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what were the devs thinking

open terrace
winged atlas
open terrace
#

i do agree that dirt should have been nerfed slightly more though

winged atlas
#

Morty jab used to suck but after these buffs he can be used for close range

open terrace
#

maybe more recovery frames on it

waxen void
winged atlas
open terrace
#

yeah thats like the only change it needs and morty would be pretty balanced

restive aspen
open terrace
restive aspen
#

lol

winged atlas
restive aspen
#

joker

waxen void
restive aspen
#

batman

open terrace
wise steppe
#

they didnt nerf dirt at all😭

winged atlas
restive aspen
restive aspen
#

😭

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they thinking that's a dirt nerf

wise steppe
restive aspen
#

and thinking they made morty balanced from being a bad character

wise steppe
#

that move is still gonna be absurd💀

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people dont get how busted that move is

winged atlas
restive aspen
#

they buffed his entire kit

wise steppe
#

you beat half of the cast with dirt alone

restive aspen
#

while making him still have his camping abilities

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he is literally going to be the best character

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i bet on that

wise steppe
#

he will be

waxen void
#

they should just remove him from the game

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he's never been fun to fight against

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always got some lame crutch to spam

wise steppe
#

morty in beta was sick

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despite the bugs he had

waxen void
#

morty is beta was axe spam

restive aspen
# waxen void he's never been fun to fight against

i don't blame the players for being boring
you have the ability to literally camp and win games easily pre patch
so imagine u have the ability to camp and a buffed up kit when someone tries to approach u

wise steppe
waxen void
#

people wanna act like he was some high skill character cause he had nade setups, but 99% of the players were just spamming axe

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then cry when axe got touched at all

open terrace
#

nah beta morty's setups were way more interesting than current morty

winged atlas
#

Im so happy whip id fixed

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Now dirt isnt the only thing for kill comfirms

wise steppe
open terrace
#

id honestly take massive dirt nerfs to make it so that your grenades are much easier to control when hitting them

wise steppe
#

every character has smth in their kit thats spammable

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doesnt take away from a character being skillful or not

waxen void
wise steppe
#

morty had more skill expression in beta because grenades were that much more versatile

waxen void
wise steppe
#

rn grenades only really serve as a stupid strong kill option

wise steppe
#

barely anyone had whiff lol

frozen lance
#

Honestly even with Mud wall nerfed I’m picking up Morty as my next character

open terrace
wise steppe
#

range nerf does nothing😭

frozen lance
#

And they buffed him as well?

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Also where are the patch notes posted?

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I don’t see em anywhere in the cord

restive aspen
#

he didn't get nerfed

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this is not a nerf

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this is an absurd amount of buffs

frozen lance
#

I just haven’t seen the rest of the patch notes

restive aspen
#

yeah dude call that a nerf in ur book

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" technically "

winged atlas
woeful anchor
#

Yes the Buffed Morty but they made it so he is less campy behind dirt

winged atlas
#

Im fine

brisk tide
#

morty got no nerfs

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just buffs

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that dirt nerf was not a nerf

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its basically no different

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which i think is dumb