Marvin The Martian

[rotund lantern]

And that's okay, losing MUs should be a thing

[queen swallow]

Finn also has top 5 movement

so projectiles arent that bad when he doesnt goes through them anyways

[rotund lantern]

We clown on all the big guys and do alright against some of the top tiers

Banana Guard really struggles against Marvin

[queen swallow]

Yeah but BG isnt a top tier or even a high tier

he fell over hard

[rotund lantern]

I haven't seen any recent tier lists I suppose

Top tiers in your opinion?

[queen swallow]

WW Joker Shaggy and IG are

the top 4

then 5 gets wishy washy

I think its Morty though

And dirty invalidates marvin

[rotund lantern]

Morty? He rose that far?

[queen swallow]

Yeah

He is insane

[rotund lantern]

Wow

I tried him for a bit, he felt good but not my cup of tea

[rotund lantern]

This makes sense. It might be my bias, but I'd swap Shaggy for Steven

I think he's super slept on

I can see what you mean though, yeah Marvin doesn't exactly beat any of those... except IG? I haven't played that MU admittedly in 1s, and in 2s it's way too chaotic

Marvin in 2s feels good but never the best option over other supports

[shy jolt]

i like his flag emote too

so goofy

thats why i love marvin

you think you've got him figured out then you learn some new crazy tech with him

plus marvin playstyles can vary tons

[wooden kite]

I’ve been having fun learning to use bubble more
Also button as a melee attack like I saw some of you say

[shy jolt]

super underrated

[flint drum]

a friend of mine found a fun tech they've been doing
jab three projectile as an edgeguard tool, I think
I think the idea is that it lasts for awhile, you can have it bounch off the stage and then use the button to reverse it

[shy jolt]

-can spike
-can be followed up with other moves
-more that i cant name but theres smth

[shy jolt]

yeah this is pretty useful

not to mention its his most consistent projectile (doesnt have a cooldown, can be thrown out tons)

i personally like his screen control more than lebrons

but thats just me

[wooden kite]

I hesitated to do it cuz I didn’t want to waste my cooldown on it

[shy jolt]

personally i use it after the cooldowns

or when i have the buttons but dont need them because my projectiles are on cooldown

[wooden kite]

That’s what I started to think

[shy jolt]

i feel like you should always have one though

just in case

oh yeah

random question but what perks do you guys run?

[wooden kite]

Space invader (somewhat)
The flame one
Air walker
And static projectile thing

[shy jolt]

never seen much use for air walker but i know its got tooons of potential
personally i run
space invader
flame one
forgot this one
static projetile

[flint drum]

I usually run uhhh
the signature the one that makes projectiles bigger when you use the button
the flame for sure.... I think uhhhh, the dash attack armor break, and I think the default melee does more damage one

[wooden kite]

Oh the dash one would also be good

[shy jolt]

oh yeah i use the dash one with jason

i got a built for him

hes like an unstoppable force with it lmao

[wooden kite]

I use it to laser off stage to kill on the side

[shy jolt]

monstrous sidestep
protective momentum
2 fast 2 block
pugilist

[wooden kite]

Ooo

I should try that with Jason

[shy jolt]

blocks projectiles with protective/his dash attack which also breaks armor after the perks, pugilist just an overall good one and monstrous sidestep is basically required with jason imo

[wooden kite]

Which one is the side step
Is that the teleport behind the person

[shy jolt]

yep

[flint drum]

with jason I have three specific sets, they usually use the same three things
the snowball effect, 2fast, and pugilist
but I have a set that has the projectile shield, and one with the speed increase

[shy jolt]

makes for this combo (that kills at 60)
jab 1 jab 2 jab 3 forward air

easy kill confirm

[flint drum]

and all with them just 5% perk cus in 1v1s the perks aren't always useful but I was using resurrection for awhile

[shy jolt]

at 30 u can use this combo
jab 1 jab 2 jab 3 turn around up air
which u can probably follow up on

wait not jab 3

my bad

side special

jab 1 jab 2 side special forward air at 60 (kill confirm)
jab 1 jab 2 side special turn around up special at 30 (might be able to combo after?)

havent labbed the second one enough

[shy jolt]

in my honest opinion resurrection is mid

people can just dodge you till you get out, and comebacks can happen when you respawn anyways

[flint drum]

it is, I realized to stop using it after it killed me before i even touched the blast zone

[wooden kite]

Oof

[flint drum]

but, I can confirm I have gotten at least TWO kills off resurrection, so I have made use of it

but yeah its not that good, but I did always find zooping into the blastzone after a few seconds to be funny

[shy jolt]

ykw i hate

marvin mirrors

the slowest goddamn matches of all time 😭

played one today and we literally ran out of time

i won by like a few percent

[wooden kite]

I’ve only played Marvin mirrors on bots but it wasn’t fun lol

[flint drum]

marvin matches seem to take awhile
I've actually had someone just sd their last stock once cus it was probably taking too long
I don't think it was a rage quit either, cus I don't think they were doing bad, it was just taking so long lol

[wooden kite]

Mom called them for dinner

[shy jolt]

jason mirrors are a close second or third because hes just a slow character

[flint drum]

which is why we need to buff marvin so matches don't last as long pff

[shy jolt]

he needs more kill power

ok

not more kill power

but more kill options

[flint drum]

like every move :3

heh

[shy jolt]

jab 3 projectile and missile are both good kill options

but everything else not really

u gotta land up air a few times for it to kill

i mean up special can work too

now that i think about it his kill power isnt even awful

what is? if its his kill power tho lmk

[flint drum]

I swear I remember bubble being a good kill option in the beta by itself, it always launched people up
and then bubbled side-b into holding down normal was also good kill power in the beta

[wooden kite]

Up special would be more usable if I could use it without summoning the rocket

[wooden kite]

Marvin the Martian second most talked in character channel of this server

🎌

[queen swallow]

its his kill power

[tropic vale]

I love Marvin but I love Taz more

[lost sand]

How dare you love more than 1 character!

[tropic vale]

Marvin is still actually fun tho

Why does an assassin have the most projectiles in the game? Who knows

[fringe trout]

You can kill mad early with a good missile setup, so I see how he can classify as assassin. With all the projectiles, though, it makes the most sense for Marvin to be a mage

[shy jolt]

to be honest

i see him as an assassin but i can also see mage

mage for the projectiles

i just think the assassin role fits him because his projectiles can be starts to nasty setups as well as killing moves (wide variety of uses)

maybe his roles should be changed to an assassin/mage hybrid? like how steven is a tank/mage hybrid

there are also a lot of reasons assassin doesnt fit him tho

[rotund lantern]

Assassin does make sense because of how he ladders

But they should’ve classified him as a Mage too

Because why is Steven both a Tank and a Mage, lol

[lost sand]

Is he still that way? Last time I checked, he appeared to be only a tank.

Nvm

I'm blind

Actually, that's weird

When you look at the variants (skins), default is shown as mage, while the other skins is shown as tank.

[wooden kite]

Must be a leftover? I saw some of Jason’s moves in the move list have 2 names

Like they couldn’t decide and forgot to

[rotund lantern]

Yeah it’s so weird

I mean hey I’ll take it

[fringe trout]

What in the living heck are you supposed to do against Morty and his dirt
It even breaks projectiles

[supple tide]

i Found a new true 0 to death combo with marvin check #combos if yall wanna test it out

[white garden]

Waw that thing looks like it require lot of skills xD

gg bro ^^

This character is actually so fun to play

but the thing is I really struggle to find the kill with it

Do you guys have some constants way to kill I could rely on ?

[supple tide]

side kick to keep them in the air ig

[white garden]

ig ?

[supple tide]

oh i guess lol

[white garden]

hum

but

this kick dosnt kill

[supple tide]

it does

[white garden]

at 200

may be

[supple tide]

at 120 - 150

use the bubble to counter all spammy characters

like shaggy

bubble then x x x combo

or bubble then air side kick into up special air

[white garden]

ok i ll try to use more of those kick then i guess

what perk do you like to use on him ?

[shy jolt]

personally i use space invader

[supple tide]

the button perk

speed buff and size buff

[shy jolt]

why the button perk?

[supple tide]

one sec lol ill answer after this game

[white garden]

😮

[supple tide]

u can slime projectiles including rocket and then it reverse them and gives it bigger hitbox then u have ur button which reverses it and then speed and size stack again.

[white garden]

192 to kill shaggy on training room with the kick full charged

[supple tide]

idk man

i dont have that issue

maybe its the perks i run

one sec brb after this game

[white garden]

I ll try the button perk

I actually never use the button

but with the perk maybe i could implemant that in my gameplay

xD

actually pretty funny ngl

now to see if it works againt a player

[supple tide]

its so funny spam x x x and shoot the orbs and then have 4 on the map then reverse them

[white garden]

do you mean the jab combo ?

I wish there is a way to throw the shot without the combo xD

[supple tide]

lmao i feel the same

[supple tide]

yeah ill spam it on 2s and my buddy will play superman or iron giant and tank while i have endless projectiles it only works on new players

when they are on the edge u reverse the orb and it knocks them down

[white garden]

lmao

i ll definitivly try that out

i used this technic but without the button perk

now the problem is Marvin is not anymore on the free rotate and I need 500 more fc to buy him I wanna cry xD

he s so fun to play

[shy jolt]

i see wym

i just think space invaders helps with his lack of kill options/power

[supple tide]

i used to run space invaders

didnt get enough use out of it for my playstyle

everyone dodged it anyways so i said fk it lol

ill tag heat seeking mode on them and then fire away

[shy jolt]

i mean i just dont see the point of the modulator perk 🤷‍♂️

i land projectiles fine without it most of the time

[supple tide]

i like the speed buff i find all his perks mid tbh i sometimes run the 5% perk

[supple tide]

im prolly just not good with his up air

all my shots get dodged

😂

[shy jolt]

downside of a speed buff is you have to get used to the different speeds

which in some cases could make it harder to control

but thats not a huge issue

[supple tide]

yeah fair

[supple tide]

its hard controlling the safe from bugz

[shy jolt]

and i dont think the speed + size buff is too drastic either

from what i was trying out in the lab

[supple tide]

i love it for mind games and edge guarding

i get a lot more use out of it

only reaosn i use it

otherwise i use 5%

his perks are all garbo

the 3 missle one is the worst

[shy jolt]

probably good for edge guarding with jab 3's projectile

or at least made easier

[supple tide]

all 3 missles wont kill you

[supple tide]

fr

[shy jolt]

i find it hard to land jab 3's projectile when edge guarding

what other perks do u run?

[supple tide]

i play a ton of training so i think i got the timing down but sometimes in 1s u gotta lock in and actually play him cause some mfs like jake and tom will steal your projectiles
This can't b

[supple tide]

snowball, 100 and pugilist

i get more use out of snowball than i do the flame perk

[shy jolt]

100?

[supple tide]

last man?

i think thats its name

im not on the game rn so i cant check

but u apply weakened effect after 100 damage which allows u to knockout someone with a weak attack like side kick

[shy jolt]

o yea

i run a way different build

[supple tide]

i play very agro so id like to hear ur build

[shy jolt]

flammable, forgot this perk and static projectile

i play a much more set-up oriented build

[supple tide]

oh i play in the air too much to run static projectile

[shy jolt]

with aggro mixed in cuz of the flammable + space invader perk

[supple tide]

i play very close range until they escape for space then i force them back but the 3x jab combo and then as they rush me i use either one of my bubbles to get them in a lil combo

[shy jolt]

(even though im not the best at setups yet)

[supple tide]

u go for rocket plays?

[shy jolt]

i try

but the best plays ive done are to bubble and reverse the rocket if they try to dodge 😭

[shy jolt]

i do this too but try to set-up, thing is im not really sure how + am not good at them

[supple tide]

using the button perk u can increase the size and speed of the rocket then throw down magnet to heat seek them.

ALSO u can aim the rocket towards yourself and shoot it when the slime ball to shoot towards the opp. if they dodge u reverse it and hit them with extra damage

[supple tide]

another good setup is against shaggy or nana guard if they do they side special spam u can use the bubbles and small bubbles to hit them in the air and combo into up air

[shy jolt]

that second one is what i do 😭

[supple tide]

W theres not enough marvins for people to catch on to that

[white garden]

Omg

that s big brain bro

I need to try this xD

[supple tide]

im hoping veriflied 1v1s me soon

[white garden]

for sure ill do that

[shy jolt]

wait so when you say that you mean
aim the rocket at yourself, preferably stand still so its easier
bubble the rocket and reverse if they try to dodge

[white garden]

you seem to have a lot to teach

[supple tide]

oop

chat bot didnt like that msg

[supple tide]

yep

[white garden]

you can pm

also

[shy jolt]

i thought that was common knowledge 😭

[supple tide]

some people dont know

[white garden]

is the buble work on safe and rocket bugs bunny ?

[supple tide]

yeah but not the safe

i havent had it work yet

[white garden]

good to know

[supple tide]

maybe it does and needs to be 100% health idk but havent gotten it to work in a match yet

[supple tide]

when i told my other marvin duo about it he was shook lmao

[white garden]

bro that s big brain

[supple tide]

ill check

[white garden]

never thought about it

[shy jolt]

would u mind teaching me some marvin sometime? i feel like you know a good amount and i could use some of that info

lmk if u can

[white garden]

but yeah i discover marvin yesterday

[supple tide]

yeah for sure im about to head to bed in the next hour or so but hmu whenever

[white garden]

same here

i want your knowledge

[supple tide]

💀

[white garden]

xD

[shy jolt]

alr, ill just catch u when ur up 😭

[supple tide]

😎

[shy jolt]

how long u been a marvin main?

[supple tide]

not even 2 weeks bro

[shy jolt]

i just started when he was on the rotation and decided to buy him

(..and the bundle)

[supple tide]

i got like 270 wins on him

[shy jolt]

but we dont talk about that

[supple tide]

thats it

[shy jolt]

thats crazy good for 2 weeks

[white garden]

i started yesterday and I ll definitivly buy it !

[shy jolt]

i got like..

30

😭

[supple tide]

hes worth learning

[white garden]

I need some fighter currency as a new player i'm totally broke

[supple tide]

im tryna learn morty rn but he kinda sucks but mfs go crazy with him

[supple tide]

i grinded some of the rifts

with shaggy lol

[white garden]

yeah morty dam

[shy jolt]

well hes also a more aggressive in-your-face kind of character

marvin can be but morty is just one of those

[white garden]

good players so annoying with that char

[supple tide]

yeah i need to figure out a good playstyle for him

ill watch a video on it later or something

anyways ima dip yall have a good one

[shy jolt]

i think ima use lebron as my secondary

since him and marvin are both heavy screen control characters

[shy jolt]

alr cu man

[white garden]

as he is in the free rotation i ll try some lebron too this week

[fringe trout]

Safe can be bubbled, haven't tried it often thought so there may be limitations

[white garden]

ok i note that

[lost sand]

Since reversing projectiles makes it go slightly faster, it also covers more range, which is really good for jab 3 and bubble.

[odd stream]

Whats the best Signeture Perk for Marvin

[wooden kite]

They all have their uses but I wouldn’t recommend 3 missiles
You need the kill power of the rocket

[scenic carbon]

An ally safe can be bubbled, not enemy safe.

Also for that 0-death, sair -> sair is not true, nor is sair -> up special, the bot just doesn't dodge it on that particular setting. If you change it to "dodge away after hitstun" or "dodge towards after hitstun" the combo should no longer work.

[wooden kite]

What is sair

Oh side air

[fringe trout]

Space Invader is great tool for defending yourself off-stage or air attacks.
Modulator can be awesome if you have the right teammate.
Heat Seekers are worthless, only use other than chaos I see for them is stalling off-stage longer (all at the cost of Marvin's best kill move)

[odd stream]

What about the 5%Perk

[flint drum]

one of my weeky missions is to play a looney tunes character
time to play marvin >:3c

two batman players in a row, bleh

still beat em both tho pft

[odd stream]

Meh ive seen 2 a WW and a Superman on the same team

[fringe trout]

Always an option if you don't utilize the other tools as much

[shy jolt]

question

i have a hard time landing the rocket, and killing in general. ill get people high percentage but then cant really knock them into void. any tips would be appreciated as half of my matches are literally timeouts 😭

and other approach options than side special and jab id like to know about because 90% of my damage is from jabs

[tropic vale]

Marvin is the perfect set up character bc you don't NEED that much skill (as an average player)

[shy jolt]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

not true

at all

i think you underestimate just how much is needed

[tropic vale]

...I just spam side tilt and get like 100 damage per life

[shy jolt]

to execute marvins playstyle in an efficient way

[shy jolt]

side tilt is a good move to just throw out for some damage or follow up on a combo, i get that.

doesn't mean he takes little skill

it's probably not yours, but the players you're fighting.

not to discredit you or anything

but if someones getting hit by that many side tilts theres a problem 😭

[tropic vale]

Tbh I fight people around my skill level most of the timr

Usually it's my panic toss attack when I'm getting whooped and don't know what to do

[shy jolt]

whatre ur career stats looking like?

what levels ur marvin?

just questions

[tropic vale]

3? 4?

I usually play taz but Marvin is my other pick for normal

I keep forgetting his side special when off cooldown does nothing. I wish it at least had the air varient off cooldown

[tropic vale]

Before you ask Taz is level 7 btw

[shy jolt]

this explains a lot

at lower levels you're not gonna match with many people who know how to counter things like spam

[tropic vale]

Not that high level but I have fun

[shy jolt]

thats good!

having fun should be your only priority, and if you're not having fun (whatever way that may be) you should try to. i mean games are made to be fun, u shouldnt have to stress over them

[tropic vale]

Half the time I just use one move and use it until it don't work

[shy jolt]

once you get to higher levels with marvin and your career in general you'll need to think of other strategies

but for now just do what you want 🤷‍♂️

[tropic vale]

Usually I try to do the bubbled rocket thing but I forget in the heat of the moment

I also forget about dair bc fair does the same and hit Infront

[shy jolt]

big tip

dont just sit and wait for your rocket

be overly aggressive but not stupid

if you can get them in a combo when the rocket launches thats even better

[tropic vale]

I don't just wait, I try to put on the pressure

[shy jolt]

i have a bad habit of waiting 😭

[tropic vale]

Sucks for me I can't combo well

[shy jolt]

i mean a simple jab jab

[tropic vale]

I can do that but like complex combos only come out by accident

[tropic vale]

Jab 3 doesn't connect at high percents sometimes

[white garden]

yeah so annoying

it could be a kill option if only this connect...

[rotund lantern]

Sometimes with rocket it can be a good idea to go to the other side of the stage, have it fire, then you rush in while reversing the rocket

It’s off-screen but approaching, can make the opponent panic or forget about it entirely

[scenic carbon]

Combo into the rocket and they won't have the chance to destroy it

[tropic vale]

Idk what I'm doing sometimes but it's fun

[scenic carbon]

Bubble -> up special good combo

[rotund lantern]

If you can double bubble before that it’s even better

At low percents you can sneak in an Uair too before, and then at any percent you can use Uair after the ladder to force options or even outright kill

Or if their damage is low you can dair and go into a vertical loop while setting up for the rocket

It’s so fun when you can incorporate flag into it all, then the rocket WILL hit them lol

[scenic carbon]

the homing works absurdly well with the rocket

[tropic vale]

If you can land it ofc

[rotund lantern]

It’s free to land

[scenic carbon]

literally true combo

[rotund lantern]

Works at any percent

[tropic vale]

I'm just bad 😭

[rotund lantern]

It’s okay, in all fairness it requires some good reaction timing on the Marvin’s part too

[shy jolt]

thats not the point of it though

[white garden]

bubble ?

[shy jolt]

if you get them stunned somehow (like with two jabs) while your rocket is coming its a free kill at a high percent

[rotund lantern]

Try air side b to convert after bubble (in neutral) if you’re not 100% sure they’ll get hit, it’s a super reliable move

[white garden]

you guys talk about the neutral attack right ?

[rotund lantern]

If you’re already in your ladder advantage state you should try and go for an up b

[rotund lantern]

Ye

[white garden]

how bubble into up special could be true 😮

[rotund lantern]

Because it is lol

[white garden]

you dash ?

you use buble at the jab range ?

[tropic vale]

Idk more than like 1 true combo but I'll live

[shy jolt]

not a fan because idk when to press the button so it might just fly over my head or hit the ground

[white garden]

seems so strange to me

[shy jolt]

what do you mean double bubble?

[rotund lantern]

Understandable, and it’s more of a niche option anyway

[shy jolt]

i know uh..

no true combos

sob

besides dair button loop

thats it

[rotund lantern]

Well if you’re just firing it in neutral then yeah it’s probably not gonna combo into anything if you’re not into position

You gotta work in tandem with it. Try using it in advantage and disadvantage state more especially, even when it’s on CD

[scenic carbon]

Jab can combo into bubble if you read DI
on DI in/no DI you just jump and hit it but on DI out you gotta dodge jump into them

[shy jolt]

if i knew combos i imagine id be much better off than just landing a jab and spamming jab until the projectile comes out

[white garden]

humm

i ll try

[rotund lantern]

You hit with bubble once then jump and bubble again, it works

And you can keep going off that

[scenic carbon]

dair also combos into up special past like 50-60 on most characters

good kill confirm at some point

[rotund lantern]

Yep, and dair also connects with itself

[white garden]

yeah actually the trompet is quite strong

[shy jolt]

yall got any consistent or reliable combos with marvin i could use?

[rotund lantern]

It’s not incredibly strong but it’s how we get kills semi-early

[shy jolt]

and how do i quit the bad habit of spamming the jab button once i get the first jab off 😭

[white garden]

the up special hit hard on cooldown rocket too

[rotund lantern]

Otherwise we kill pretty late

[rotund lantern]

I don’t blame you, force of habit lol

[white garden]

yeah i guess this is a marvin issue

[shy jolt]

im such a bad marvin player half of my matches time out

[white garden]

we kill late :/

May be it is the character we need to use that perk that apply weekness at over 125 lol

[rotund lantern]

Nah, not necessary =3

[white garden]

I know just trolling

[rotund lantern]

Lol

If that’s a perk I would’ve believed you, I don’t check the perks that often

Most kinda suck

[white garden]

kill over 125 feels already horrible enough to have a perk for it xD

[shy jolt]

for me it might be. idk im starting to doubt my marvin cuz i dont kill till 125-150 most times

not to mention i only know one combo (which is a loop.. 😭 )

and suck at landing rocket

[rotund lantern]

Sounds like you’re playing him as a zoner, which he isn’t

[tropic vale]

I feel like killing at 110-150 is normal for me at least

[rotund lantern]

Marvin’s an assassin like the tag says

You’re supposed to be very aggressive with him

[shy jolt]

ill sit at a corner of the map, use the bubble, and reverse it in hopes that they get hit by it

[white garden]

that s a lie marvin is a mage xD

[rotund lantern]

Ya that’s why you’re not killing with him

[shy jolt]

a good chunk of his attacks are stubby

[rotund lantern]

He should be classified as a mage too tbh

[shy jolt]

what level is ur marvin?

just curious

and whats ur wins with him

[rotund lantern]

His jab specifically, so don’t jab that much lol

[shy jolt]

i jab like 90% of the time and its how i get most of my damage

[lost sand]

Whenever you can, at least. Some mus can punish you if you're too aggro.

[tropic vale]

Like gizmo should also be a bruiser. Half of these characters should have 2 classes

[shy jolt]

there arent many ways for me to approach with marvin without being insanely obvious and predictable, it hurts

[tropic vale]

Taz has the speed of an assassin, but the damage of a tank

[rotund lantern]

Idk, 9? And still less than 100 wins. I just picked him up pretty fast because I’m decent at the game, and I play similar enough characters quite a lot

Like Velma, Steven, and Gizmo

Marvin’s my newest

[shy jolt]

well you're much better than me then

im like

level 6 with him

with 30 wins

😭

[rotund lantern]

Of course lol

Like Superman

[white garden]

about the same for me started enjoy the character yesterday xD

[shy jolt]

i just hate superman in general. how are you meant to counter that grab?

[rotund lantern]

You guys will get there =3

Marvin takes practice

[rotund lantern]

It’s not the grab that destroys us, it’s the freeze breath

We lose all our projectiles in it

[shy jolt]

dude the freeze breath is awful

wait it deletes proj.?

[rotund lantern]

Yep

[shy jolt]

didnt even know that

[white garden]

😮

never saw it lol

[rotund lantern]

Lost hard to a Supes once because I didn’t know that and he knew the MU very well

[white garden]

if you cant use projectile as marvin against a superman dont know how you win xD

[rotund lantern]

Well our best move is in fact a bruiser move~

Air side b

That thing is so so good

[white garden]

yes

it is

[shy jolt]

okay. a few questions because clearly my marvin is arguably one of my worst characters.
-what reliable/consistent combos can i use? simple and/or difficult is fine.
-how am i supposed to get a good amount of my damage? most is from predicting/being smart with my jabs and trying to kill with an obvious rocket/jab 3 projectile which is starting to get hard countered.
-how do i set up? im genuinely curious because i dont ever really set up, or at least am not good at it.

[white garden]

but it will be predictable as hell

if you start using it too much

[rotund lantern]

Well ya but that’s any move

[white garden]

if it is the only way superman got the tool for it xD

[rotund lantern]

Yes but in order for him to stop that move, he has to stop freeze breath

And that’s where the mindgame comes in

[rotund lantern]

I would honestly look for a guide because I’m not even that good of a Marvin tbh xD

And I don’t really have the time, sorry

[shy jolt]

every guide ive looked at is

very

very

bad

[rotund lantern]

Eh fair enough

[white garden]

true the brith is very easy to punish

[rotund lantern]

Just play him a lot

[shy jolt]

they dont know wtf they're talking about

[shy jolt]

doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of insanity, though.

[white garden]

do you guys wanna play some i d like to test a ditto marvin against yours to see what you do ?

[rotund lantern]

Bubble is your bread and butter, air side b combos into itself, rocket is fun but don’t rely on it, don’t forget that our dash attack is a fast and far-reaching surprise option

[tropic vale]

Im in the same boat ngl

[rotund lantern]

Uair starts killing above 100 depending on their position

[shy jolt]

it's hard not to rely on one of my only good kill attacks

and the dash attack ultimately fails for me most of the time

bubble is my bnb.. like just bubble?

[white garden]

same for me i dont use the dash attack that much i feel it very bad on marvin

[rotund lantern]

We have quite a few good kill moves: Air side b, uair, dtilt, dair, up b, rocket, jab 3, and situationally charged sair

[white garden]

i prefer jump side special to open

[shy jolt]

let me just say.. uair (at least when i use it) NEVER lands

like that move

is

not great

[rotund lantern]

It’s fantastic lol

[shy jolt]

air side b's hitbox is pretty jank

[shy jolt]

i wish that was the case with me

[rotund lantern]

Are you aiming it?

[shy jolt]

i have no idea what im doing wrong with it then, i never land it. even when it's about to hit, they just dodge

[shy jolt]

yep

[rotund lantern]

Well if you force them to dodge that’s a good thing

They’re burning meter

And you can bait the dodge

[white garden]

you said you use the perk for it and you still miss ?

[shy jolt]

..yea lmao

[white garden]

xD

[shy jolt]

i know

im trash

[white garden]

then change your perk xD

[rotund lantern]

Not really, and it’s mostly on his head

[shy jolt]

i might just get off marvin in general if im being honest

characters a lot of fun but im just not seeing results

[rotund lantern]

He’s not an easy character, if you like him just give him more time

Or take a break and come back

=3

[white garden]

for real he s so funny

[shy jolt]

ive given him time. hes level 6, i should at least be doing basic combos and set ups by now.

[white garden]

but you need a good neutral

[rotund lantern]

Maybe he doesn’t click. Come back and try him later

[white garden]

you can do things that tilt so much the oponant it is a mind win

xD

[rotund lantern]

Try similar characters too

[shy jolt]

no other character is as fun for me than marvin. hes different from the rest of the cast. shares similarities to some characters, sure, but ultimately hes probably the most unique character in-game

[rotund lantern]

Reindog and Gizmo are easier and play a bit similarly to Marvin, especially Gizmo

[white garden]

but still when you fight the top tier and you got kill at 100 and you struggle to kill at 150 i know it feel bad

xD

[rotund lantern]

Well in all fairness we aren’t a top tier character lol

[shy jolt]

marvin is setup, and reindog just feels like projectile spam. that or a campy playstyle. gizmo just.. nah. i dont think i need to explain my reasoning 😭

[rotund lantern]

Marvin’s really balanced

[shy jolt]

debatable

but i can see where you're coming from

i personally feel like hes just

too predictable

[rotund lantern]

Idk I play all 3 of those aggressively and get results

[shy jolt]

same with stripe but thats a different story

[white garden]

that s true when you dont play Marvin against the top tier you really feel that is actually a great character

[rotund lantern]

Marvin’s not predictable at all if done correctly, the opponent should feel like they’re playing Touhou x3

[shy jolt]

idk

at least im predictable

id like to break the habit but dont know how

i mean i know why im predictable but i dont know what to do different

[white garden]

just use all your kit

[rotund lantern]

Maybe record your own gameplay and watch

[shy jolt]

tried that

im awful at pointing out things i do bad

have shown other ppl the clip too, they see nothing wrong with them

[white garden]

we really need replay on the game

[rotund lantern]

Honestly, maybe just take the game less seriously, it sounds like you’re not having as much fun as you like

[shy jolt]

i started to play marvin cuz hes different. very heavy on his set-ups.

but it's not fun if i cant actually do those set-ups

like what defines a "set-up"?

[white garden]

try Lebron he s very funny too

[rotund lantern]

He is lol

[shy jolt]

putting a rocket down and hitting the enemy a few times before it launches and hits them?

is that a set-up?

im just not sure what a setup is

have no prior experience playing set-up characters in any game

[rotund lantern]

@shy jolt I gotta step away, sounds like you probably need to as well my dude. You’re analyzing this too much

[white garden]

you have to enter the head of you opponant

that s the set up

[shy jolt]

but for good reason. im analyzing to try and pinpoint what im doing wrong and fix it

[white garden]

then you use down attack 3 times on him

[tropic vale]

Marvin is so complex but you don't need all the cool stuff

[white garden]

he gonna tilt

you use up attack at this time

[tropic vale]

Side tilt is around 102% of my damage per stock

[white garden]

then he feels like he cant approch

and now

you spam jab

xD

[minor linden]

Marvin gives me the most ragequits out of every character

[white garden]

lol

for real he is tooo funny

[minor linden]

The ground neutral is so tilting for the opponents

[white garden]

yeah he is very oppressing

[minor linden]

I can just stop everything they wanna do

[white garden]

may be that s why they put assassin on him

but he s trully not like the other assassin

[minor linden]

He’s clearly mage lol

[white garden]

more like mage

[minor linden]

I don’t know why he’s classed assassin

[white garden]

yes for sure he s a mage xD

[minor linden]

His main gameplay is guns and rockets

[brave remnant]

Because hit and run. And can finish off high % targets fast.

[queen swallow]

it can be di’d unfortunately but still a good option

[supple tide]

Di mean dodge?

[white garden]

when you got hit by a moove you can di left or right

after the hitstun

that not a dodge

[supple tide]

Yeah dodge after hit scan is on, I’ve tested in online match custom and a bot on fight mode

If u can land the side kick x2 in the air that’s basically the prerequisite for the kill confirm

U can usually always land 2 kicks if ur the right distance away

Just depends if he’s high enough in the air for the up air to kill

[lost sand]

I participated in frostiversus and got 3 wins, 2 losses (though, 1 of them was a dq, so it's more like 2-2).
Tourney and learning is fun.

Trying to represent the Marvin Martian Nation

[grand coral]

Dodge and DI are different things. Dodge is the movement dash. DI is being able to influence ur movement angle when you're hit. It helps you escape combos and even makes it harder to kill you. Ex. you get hit by shaggy up special and if you push left/right, you'll move slightly to the left/right.

I don't think you can even make the the training bots DI

[queen swallow]

I went 5-2 in a losers run

Marvin just isnt fit for tourneys

really bad matchup chart

[lost sand]

Eh, it's whadevs. I wanna try to push as far as I can.

[lost sand]

pretty nice though. how many tourneys have you participated in so far?

[queen swallow]

2

in this version

[lost sand]

cool cool

[white garden]

if you remove the top tiers Marvin got his chance xD

[queen swallow]

I wish he was consistent

Steven WW Morty and Finn are some bad bad match ups

coping that Marvin kinda does well enough into Shaggy and IG to be niche pick at best

[rotund lantern]

Some minor buffs would be nice, or minor nerfs to those characters

[fringe trout]

Dodged projectiles (I call them phantom projectiles) being able to hit again would be monumental. I wince every time my lock-on bubble phases through my opponent several times

[flint drum]

kinda sucks that they made that a thing
I mean cmon, marvins entire thing for his neutral special is projectiles you dodged coming back to get ya

[ionic wagon]

Marvin is my least favorite character to play but I love fighting them because of just all the weird things they do it's amazing what the character can do

[tropic vale]

One of your soldiers lost to a LeBron.

One of you, have died to a bad LeBron

[iron wadi]

WAS MARVIN ALWAYS AN ASSASIN?? Seeing that he was threw me for a loop lmao

[sour beacon]

Is 1 big rocket better or 3 small rockets

[white garden]

You dont have a lot of kill options with Marvin if you choose this perk you loose one more

[queen swallow]

preference

[flint drum]

I've mentioned my friend who started maining marvin, I just did some 1v1s with em, they cooked me fr, they're really good as marvin
I couldn't be more proud

[lost sand]

Hell ye

[fringe trout]

〰️〰️〰️ 🔫 🎌

[wooden kite]

That’s so real

[brave remnant]

Marvin...never change....never change

[tropic vale]

War, war never changes.

[rustic hedge]

any essential tips for Marvin?

just bought him since I found him fun in the free rotation.

[tropic vale]

Run "Doc, That's flammable!", his side tilt has a projectile on the third hit, and you just need to hit them right after

[rustic hedge]

I already run flammable

Kinda one of 2 perks worth running in that slot

And I was aware of the projectile, thanks

Mostly talking about any sort of links or setups I should keep in mind

[tropic vale]

If your scared, YOLO. Rush In and do whatever you can

When I panic I just play aggressive

[queen swallow]

jab jab nair up special is a bread n butter kill confirm

the way to do it is

jab jab if you see or feel di in or no di

jump and nair and jump back and up special

if you see di out

boost jump

meaning forward dodge then cancel with a jump and nair back jump up special

kills around 105 usuallly

[rustic hedge]

Thank you!

[young zodiac]

Marvin the Martian is probably the best character in the game right now. He has an A-1 Disintegrating Pistol loop that doesn't take resources, he has a charging up tilt that's aim-able and can be held indefinitely, his Glorius Ship's Rocket has an insanely large hitbox and flies forever, Centurion Headbutt also is hard to deal with, it either hits first or trades. Glad he's not played much

[queen swallow]

Joker and shaggy have true combos that kill at like 30

Marvin is like def bottom 8 in 1s

probably bottom 5

hate to break it to you idk if that was a serious post or not

[young zodiac]

Check the Taz mains and let me know if I was serious

[queen swallow]

Okay lol

[lost sand]

Idk where it's originally from, but it looks like a copypasta

[queen swallow]

I didnt know

[young zodiac]

Lmao it's the best pasta rn

[queen swallow]

i see

[young zodiac]

I'm a marvin main, don't worry.

Velma is probably the best character in the game right now. She has a combo loop that only takes a few resources, she has a charging up tilt that's mobile and can be held indefinitely, her motivational speaker has an insanely large hitbox and lasts forever, Toxic Concoction also is hard to deal with, it either hits first or trades. Glad she's not played much

As an example

[lost sand]

if you're a marvin main... uh... name one fun fact about marvin!

[young zodiac]

There is actually a Disintegrating Pistol (downair) into Button loop that's dependent on tumble state and your ability to read DI.

[lost sand]

I dig it!

[young zodiac]

Record is 0 to 100 on a poor Jason

[wooden kite]

Marvin the Martian is older than the historic space race which started in 1955

[fringe trout]

Mutiny makes him so angry

[wooden kite]

Marvin didn’t get popular until Star Wars came out and the general public went crazy for all things space

[meager drift]

Marvin's original name was Antwerp

[orchid river]

aight fellas

any new marvin tech

[fringe trout]

Call ship above a platform and plant your flag on it. Since the flag now drops one layer, it will fall onto the platform (also works if you place on the 3rd platform in Dexter's lab). This maximizes the area controlled; you get a full circle instead of just half

[white garden]

Big brain strategy

thanks for that mate

[young zodiac]

Shoot a neutral bubble jump height then shoot an up air into it for a little time bomb semi-aimable up air for mind games while you launch your own up airs

[lost sand]

Probably not new, but don't forget that up tilt / up air is also affected by the flag debuff, even if you're both on the ground.

This is a nice fast paced homing projectile option you can use to catch ppl off guard.

[young zodiac]

If there is a Marvin here named Rambo09-09

GGWP wish you wouldve accept the rematch.

Fun Marvin Mirror, but the better marvin wins xd

[fringe trout]

Assuming it doesn't do loops and somersaults around the opponent 💀

Works better at mid-range. Seems inconsistent if fired up close

[queen swallow]

Finn armored buns makes certain match ups impossible its so sad

and he also has side b in the same tool kit

like

you are intentionally making some match ups beyond hard

[broken pewter]

button madness #clips message

[lost sand]

Interesting

[wooden kite]

Oh my gosh that’s great

[fringe trout]

And here I thought button mashing went away with the beta 😭

[wooden kite]

Hahaha

[broken pewter]

i mash button as much as possible i love that move

button combo route (not sure if this is popular or not already) #clips message

[wooden kite]

Oh nice

I should try to implement something like that

[fringe trout]

I use something much similar often, but never confirmed if you could use button twice on the way down. I prefer to save my reverses, so if they're on cooldown... button mashing time

[broken pewter]

i like mashing button to much so whenever i can use it i go for it plus collateral damage goes brrrr with button

[wooden kite]

I’m probably too strict on myself for cooldown moves

Button cools down pretty quick doesn’t it

[broken pewter]

yeah i use it a lot and when i need it i usually have it

[wooden kite]

Good to know

[queen swallow]

Its a good mix up

unfortunately not true

per usual

[broken pewter]

sums up marvin combos

cool but not true

[wooden kite]

Makes him a cooler character
You have to be smart to play him not just memorize combos

[broken pewter]

thats true

[wooden kite]

/hj

[broken pewter]

the day marvin is like joker with combo's im dropping him

[queen swallow]

lol his combo game is how more characters need

Not just true combos that kill at 20 like joker

or 40 like shaggy

[dense rapids]

#clips 👀

[scenic carbon]

Keep working on it, bots just don't dodge after Marvin up air and grounded up attack for some reason. Also, up special to up air isn't true. I wouldn't recommend committing this to muscle memory, although conditioning the opponent with sair after up special can get you some nice up air reads later

[ocean fiber]

Whats the best perk set for marvin?

[fringe trout]

Playstyle dependent. Marvin can play up close and aggressive or sit back and cover the screen in junk.

Space Invader is nice for extra pressure in the air or for getting back onto the stage.
Modulator for more threatening setups (or when with a teammate like Bugs).
Well Rounded otherwise. Don't bother with Heat Seekers, ship loses its kill power.

I play with Flammable Doc, Speed Force, and Static (it does significant damage now, just need to be very mindful of keeping ground contact). Press the Advantage, Last Stand, and Pugilist are also solid picks.
Airwalker I played with for some time. Planting flags mid-air, shooting rifle from off-stage, and charging up blaster indefinitely is nice. Overall not worth sacrificing the air parry from what I concluded, plus you get the ship as a platform already

[white garden]

oh lord xD

dam you re a good player

[wooden kite]

My Marvin cosplay is coming together nicely

I got my latex suit, gloves, and some white shoes

I just gotta get foam for the helmet and skirt

[brave remnant]

Marvin won the debate, change my mind

[meager drift]

you need the flag 🎌

[wooden kite]

I’m actually working on that

Custom flags on Amazon are pretty cheap

[meager drift]

cool

🎌

[wooden kite]

I haven’t been able to find the font of the M to recreate it

[merry compass]

Ok guys I'm genuinely pissed. Why is it that you can dodge Joker's Card or Batman's boomerang and they can still hit you on the way back afterwards but with Marvin's projectiles the opponent is just immune? That's absolutely bull. His takes TWO separate cooldowns for it essentially or a long and reactable jab string or EVEN THREE SEPARATE COOLDOWNS (Bubble+Projectile+Redirect) AND HE CAN'T EVEN GET IT TO HIT ON THE WAY BACK

[fringe trout]

Batarang hits even if dodged the first time? Never payed attention to that. That's ludicrous if the phantom projectile issue only applies to Marvin

[merry compass]

I'm pretty sure that's kinda its gimmick but can confirm it works on Joker's playing card as I was playing against my friend using Joker and got pissed when it happened.

[wooden kite]

doesnt jokers boomerang one only hit on the way back?

[merry compass]

Idk about that

[white garden]

Yes the heart card s only hit on the way back so you still need only one dodge

And with Marvin bubble should hit

Pretty sure it does we can try if you want

[flint drum]

just got marvins shark hat costume lets gooo

[lost sand]

gimme!

I got ww on my 2nd day, like eww!

[flint drum]

I got superman on my first, which he uses clark kent esque voice lines like the summer break costume and I find that funny

[lost sand]

lol

[flint drum]

and of course day 2 I have marvin

[lost sand]

day 1, I got stripe, which is nice

[flint drum]

my friend got stripe for day 2, which stripe is one of his mains
he's actually a big reindog fan so heres hoping he can get his hands on megalodog

even if I don't use reindog much I kinda want that one too

also while I doubt he has one, I would find it super funny if there was a Jason shark hat

[rare heron]

W marvin

[untold stump]

I love Marvin

[wooden kite]

I really hope I get Marvin’s hat!

It probably looks so cute

[flint drum]

#videogames message

[wooden kite]

Oooohhhhhhh

I want it

[rare heron]

THATS IN THE GAME

i need it

[flint drum]

its so funny because it has to be really big
not just to cover the helmet but to cover the brush on the helmet

[wooden kite]

I kinda thought they would replace the helmet

[gusty quarry]

that looks like it would slide down his head and cover his face

[flint drum]

I guess marvin was the main shark hat I wanted, can't think of anyone else I want to get

[wooden kite]

I got fin today sad

Superman yesterday tho

I play supes sometimes

[flint drum]

I got superman yesterday too
I love that he has clark kent lines its funny

maybe I'd like to get finns, bugs if he has one
I doubt jason has one but it would be really funny

[wooden kite]

Why wouldn’t Jason get one

[flint drum]

I don't think there would be a reason for him not to, I just for some reason doubt it
but if he has one, I want it lol

I guess the thing is we have like so many fighters, but so little shark hat days

[gusty quarry]

I got Arya today which is a character i don’t even own

[flint drum]

well at least you have a skin for her now pfft

[wooden kite]

Yeah I don’t own fin either

[flint drum]

its a shame shark hats don't count as beach ready too, then people who get shark arya could do that one mission lol

[gusty quarry]

Finn with a fin

[wooden kite]

Fr

[flint drum]

I hope they do another swag week cus from the looks, almost everyone has a shark hat, so we gotta get lucky on our draws

[wooden kite]

Yea

[wooden kite]

I started watching looney tunes rabbit run and I think i've been marvin baited

i'm an hour into the movie and he hasnt shown up despite being on the cover

HE SHOWED UP HIS VOICE IS NOT RIGHT

this sucks 😭

[rare heron]

W marvin

[flint drum]

oh yeah, I forgot about that
I was like "his voice was fine" but I was thinking about looney tunes show which I think rabbits run was a weird tie in that didn't matter for the show at all pft
I wish he showed up more in the show, but what can ya do

if there was anything I could enjoy from rabbit runs marvin is that we got to see his wacky space base from that cartoon where he has the green jumpsuit again, that was nice

[wooden kite]

Yeah the environment was nice

They just didn’t do anything new with it

Every thing in that segment was a copy from one of the original 5 cartoons

Except for the swapping body parts thing but that went on for way too long

Idk why they couldn’t get the loony tunes show voice cast

[flint drum]

well I think this was before the show itself so they might not have figured everyone out fully
so marvin definitely got replaced, or a new direction was taken

[wooden kite]

Nope
The show was 2011-2014
The movie was in 2015

[flint drum]

well heck

[wooden kite]

My guess was budget ig?

[rare heron]

No one talks about the canceled marvin movie💀🙏

[wooden kite]

I’m not a fan of the test footage that released tbh

[rare heron]

He looked like a creepy doll

[wooden kite]

Mhm

I can’t forget that terrible batteries joke

[flint drum]

so looking it up
Eric Bauza was Marvin the the show itself (he is still marvin in mvs iirc)
but in rabbits run he was voiced by Damon Jones, Erics name is nowhere to be seen on the imdb voice cast for the movie

guess he was busy?

everyone else seems to be the same

[wooden kite]

I guess
The Lola va is different too

[queen swallow]

So if I dont get the marvin shark hat do I just cry

[flint drum]

hopefully not

[queen swallow]

I got lebron and stripe so thats p cool

could be worse

[wooden kite]

What’s weird is that I didn’t notice bugs was different
Damon sounds exactly like Eric for the Bugs role

[flint drum]

Jeff Bergman was bugs in both of them, and apparently still on and off plays the role from the looks of his IMdb, thats neat

[wooden kite]

Ohhh

I thought Eric played bugs in the show
I guess not

He plays him in MVS I think

[flint drum]

nope, which was surprising to see
also ye he does

Jeff played bugs in the new Tiny Toons from what the imbd says
and then eric plays marvin in the one episode he shows up in, and daffy in a bunch
damn, looney tunes voice actings goes crazy

[wooden kite]

Oh cool

[flint drum]

Eric still got a starring role in that show cus he plays buster bunny

the little blue one

[wooden kite]

Is tiny toons good

[flint drum]

I dunno, I never saw the og or the new one
I'd have to give em a proper watch to say for sure
but then again, I like almost anything I watch so I'm not the best source lol

[wooden kite]

I enjoy most things I watch too

I’ll at least watch the Marvin episode

[flint drum]

always gotta watch the marvin content

[wooden kite]

I’m trying to see all of it this summer

[fringe trout]

Where's Marvin's kill power? There was supposed to be Earth-shattering kill power.
Up attack used to kill #clips message

[flint drum]

I just remembered, the TV channel I watch, the new cartoon only channel they dropped, MeTV toons, they're going to show duck dodgers every Saturday
which means every Saturday I get to tune in for some marvin on my tv

[queen swallow]

Everyone says marvin up air/up tilt are like really good

but tbh

its meh

😭

[fringe trout]

It reduced the knockback from the rocket in that clip. Actually incredible

[wooden kite]

That’s awesome
I’ve been watching a bunch recently

[fringe trout]

Flag taunt is on sale 🗣️ 🗣️

[flint drum]

I noticed an error with one of the marvin skins, and I think its only just the one
the toon squad classic marvin, when he does the crawl the skirt doesn't disappear
out of all the skins I have, being the toon squads and shark hat, that was the only one that did that

[wooden kite]

Oh that’s so weird

[wooden kite]

I played a little online and did pretty well
My heart goes so fast every time I do it tho idk why 😭

[long cove]

i'm at the point of wondering why even bother playing marvin when morty exists.
Does everything marvin does but better and with more options

[fringe trout]

(and can kill)
Just takes a simple dirt > up air at like 90 damage

[wooden kite]

Marvin has so much more swag and whimsy

[long cove]

this is true,

[wooden kite]

https://tenor.com/view/multiversus-marvin-the-martian-gif-27131037

Oh right, no gifs

[flint drum]

me when no fun allowed

[wooden kite]

We’ve been good
I think we deserve to have image privileges

[weak totem]

marvin the martian supremacy

[fringe trout]

If only projectiles didn't bounce off platforms, and lock-on wasn't kooky, and phantom projectiles weren't a thing

[long cove]

phantom projectiles is the biggest offender for sure

[white garden]

A win with Marvin still feel 100x better than a win with Joker

[fringe trout]

Might go insane if phantoms aren't addressed
#clips message

[wooden kite]

The rocket? It looks like it just didn’t hit him

I didn’t see a “dodged” effect

[fringe trout]

The bubble is part of the hitbox too

Right after the first up blaster hit, he was a chunk inside

[wooden kite]

Ohhh I think you’re right then

Dropping the flag on him like that was smart tho

[long cove]

perfection in PFG's eyes

[sour basalt]

damn they still hvent fixed phantoms?

prolly not coming back to this game until they address major issues with some of the characters

[flint drum]

you know what makes phantom projectiles hurt all the more
dodging, seeing "dodged" show up, but since it was a multihit it still gets you
I had a jason clip where a T&J used just up normal, and you can see "dodged" show up multiple times but it never mattered

[queen swallow]

todays the patch announcement so

[silk pecan]

Sadly, no Marvin changes 😦

[scenic carbon]

no announced Marvin changes, they aren't talking about all of the changes

[silk pecan]

Ohhhhh

THERE IS HOPE!

[fringe trout]

Fixing Velma's bubble-platform interactions, could it be??

[devout crane]

wheres the marvin nerfs

[white garden]

lol a joker main that want marvin nerfed ? get better at the game dude

[devout crane]

said no one

[scenic carbon]

no feed the troll

[devout crane]

not trolling just a genuine nerf

his hitbox is nonexistant

[white garden]

you probably mean his heartbox you dont even know what you re talking about

[fringe trout]

Hello MVPs!
We're aware of Marvin's incredible kill power and will be rolling out some changes in the upcoming update.

• Rocket
◦ – Damage reduced to 9 from 13
• Rocket
◦ – Knockback greatly reduced
• Up special (space ship)
◦ – Health reduced to 10 from 15
• Air/ground down attack
◦ – On-whiff branch window delayed 8 frames

[scenic carbon]

lol

*hurtbox

[white garden]

my english is trash thanks

[white garden]

where you got this ?

[devout crane]

exactly

trying to correct someone

[fringe trout]

It's not real, much like the knockback on half of Marvin's moves

[white garden]

I was thinking that first but as i didnt see reaction I had to ask xD

sorry for fuked up your joke tho lol

[scenic carbon]

This was funny to read, very creative
Have some internet points

[white garden]

Having to kill a tank with Marvin is such a pain '-'

[queen swallow]

just dont interact with the joker

[merry slate]

I still don’t really get why Marvin is an assassin instead of a mage

But like, he’s vibing, I guess

[young zodiac]

Of course it isn't real, the nerf to up att knockback is missing.

Too many players rightly complaining Marvin up att kills at 150 on bad di. Broken move

[wooden kite]

#film-and-tv message

My first Marvin merch has been acquired

[wooden kite]

Marvin bubble fix 👀

[flint drum]

sadly I can't use jason to team up with my marvin friends to throw people off the map with bubble sleeping bag

[wooden kite]

Oh my gosh

That would be insane

[flint drum]

it was so funny but now its gonna be fixed since sleeping bag won't be a projectile anymore

[queen swallow]

WAIT

FLAG FALLING WAS A BUG

[flint drum]

I can finally have more range on my flag by putting it on a platform again

[queen swallow]

Honestly this is mostly a nerf with the jab 3 projectile

but its like meh

and still phantom projectiles

[flint drum]

I dunno why they did that
might as well just make it perish when it hits the ground like in the beta like bleh

[wooden kite]

Wait that worked? Do you have a clip of that

[flint drum]

https://x.com/SoyRichRG/status/1803925111017226253

[fringe trout]

No more flag falling 🗣️

Placing it on ship so it could fall on a platform was whack

[flint drum]

we can finally lock people onto the ship with a combo and make sure the rocket hits
or something I swear I saw a clip of that in the beta pff

[wooden kite]

So overall patch notes
They hate us 😭

[fringe trout]

In a perfect world:

Marvin
• General
• * Fixed an issue with dodged projectiles being unable to hit the same enemy again

[wooden kite]

🤩

[fringe trout]

😭

[young zodiac]

As long as I'm still allowed to button loop, idrc how they change marvin

[young zodiac]

Okay kinda sad the nerfed jab3 projectile

But it's still long enough to the edgeguard cheese

Still crazy we're allowed to button loop though. Dub for marvin

[rustic hedge]

Truest ledge guard is smacking them with down special

In the name of Mars

🫡

[young zodiac]

Nah

Jab 3 when they're recovering

[rustic hedge]

Nuh uh

[young zodiac]

Then neutral special to switch the projectile

So they get spiked

Most dirty move in the game

[flint drum]

its very epic and funny

[queen swallow]

button loops are fake not the loops they are worried about

Not completely fake

but not completely true

[young zodiac]

Dair into button loop is contingent upon tumble state

[queen swallow]

yeah thats kinda how it was balanced

and the loops they are gutting are just basically always

[young zodiac]

I personally love it

And I'm glad it's not gone

Nothing funnier than taking a WW from 0 to 70 on her last stock

[queen swallow]

dw you still need like 70 more damage to kill ww

[dense rapids]

If the Marvin I just cooked is in here, just know you deserved that beat down

🗿

[kind pier]

can you cancel air flag?

ive died so many times accidentally doing down special offstage and not being able to recover

[young zodiac]

With an air dodge or 2nd jump. Yes.

[kind pier]

so many times ive spammed my dodge or jump and it doesnt work

[young zodiac]

Hmm. I'll test again when I'm home but I swear you cancel out of it

[young zodiac]

To the absolute clown marvin that teabagged in the middle of the mirror match

Hold that L, you're garbage kid. Know your place

Ign was hahuha I think

[rustic hedge]

You ever rush to the general channel and see if you can @ your enemy?

I do that way too often

[young zodiac]

All the time brother

[modest gyro]

Same. Not often.

[silk pecan]

Darn, nothing for Marvin

[modest gyro]

Not really. They buffed the bubble gun where it now lasts longer

[lost sand]

And nerfed the jab 3 projectile duration.

[modest gyro]

Honestly I can see why. That thing was out for wayyy too long.

[lost sand]

I guess, but it was funny to use as a stalemate vs morty's earth slide.

So glad that obnoxious attack is nerfed and I hope it'll be enough.

[modest gyro]

Same. But then again i rarely faced Morty's.

[lost sand]

Lucky you

Can we switch our matchmaking?

[modest gyro]

Lol i mostly play 2v2's

[lost sand]

I see, I see

[modest gyro]

Eye Sea

[unique agate]

guys on 1v1 should i use snowball or flammable

and also how do u feel abt marvins nerf this patch?

[scenic carbon]

Flammable, jab 3 nerf not much to worry about

Flag getting fixed was very nice

[weak totem]

what are the best perks for marvin

[merry compass]

Flammable is a must usually for me. Middle perk I usually go with the air platform or the speed increase. Last one I go for the one that resets your jumps/skills after a kill or just the one that gives more overall melee damage.

[kind pier]

i got some time to test and the only way to cancel air down special is to get hit

jumping and air dodging dont cancel the flag

[merry compass]

Shame they didn't buff his projectiles hitting after being redirected again

[kind pier]

thats gotta be the most annoying part of marvin

redirecting a projectile should reset if its been dodged

but only more than like a second later

[queen swallow]

Flammable, collat/last stand, puglist

air plat after nerfs is meh

imo

I like collat

because I go for button a lot

but

preference

[queen swallow]

spitting facts

Two most wanted buffs for marvin

is

[blissful oxide]

Wait so are people saying marvin is good now

[queen swallow]

phantom projectiles and making it so button only takes a charge if a projectile is actually out

Marvin is better than before just because the overall power level fell

but we have to wait

[blissful oxide]

annoying to fight against =/= good

[queen swallow]

yeah he still lacks consistent kill power

but the bubble buff is nice

mostly a 2s change though

[blissful oxide]

They nerfed his jab projectile?

[queen swallow]

Yes

but

the bubble buff helps it in a way

[blissful oxide]

Bit of a shame. It was one of your only attacking sideways projectiles

[queen swallow]

it also drops straight down out of a bubble

which might be nice with experimentation

[blissful oxide]

Do people know how to fight marvin now

Or is he still uncommon enough that people have no clue

[queen swallow]

Randos have no damn clue

[blissful oxide]

lol

[frozen saffron]

I’m actually sad that they removed flag going through platforms I loved placing it down when I used my spaceship

Now I can’t

[rotund lantern]

Darn, that was a fun tech option

[white garden]

I like it fixed honestly

[fringe trout]

Flag sticking to platforms has much greater utility than a quick one-time falling flag. Plus it still falls once the ship leaves