MVS wouldnt want that for any character
#Marvin The Martian
queen swallow
Velma is godsend compared to mac
gloomy apex
True but people currently would consider her more unplayable than mac
queen swallow
also megaphone is still a great move its just not the best move in the game anymore
😶
gloomy apex
I think with time people will understand velma really isnt that bad and ww isnt really that much above the rest
queen swallow
True but people currently would consider her more unplayable than mac
well they are wrong
WW isnt much better than other top tiers
but the top tier gap in this game is pretty large from the rest of the cast
gloomy apex
Dude u know how many top beta velmas have yet to play a game on her yet
queen swallow
no lol
gloomy apex
Or alot of them have played her a single game tried to play her like shes still beta velma and then never touched her again thinking shes awful
The main thing id hope marvin gets is his bubble actually working correctly
Why can i bubble my teamates safe but the enemy bugs safe is invincible
Why when i bubble half the things in the game does it just not have a hitbox with the bubble
fringe trout
Dodged projectiles being unable to hit again is what bothers me most.
I was able to switch the rocket direction three times in beta, now you just dodge it once and it's neutralized
lost sand
Dodged projectiles being unable to hit again is what bothers me most.
I was able...
Yeah, it's kinda obnoxious. I really think this needs some adjustment.
gloomy apex
Dodged projectiles being unable to hit again is what bothers me most.
I was able...
if this is a mechanic in the game it shouldnt just be for projectiles imo
if i dodge a bm up air i shouldnt be able to get hit by the end of the move
same with like finn up b and alot of stuff
echo palm
Where’s the bugs nerf he has a Nair loop
gloomy apex
I mean that list is very clearly a joke
Buffing rick and jake while nerfing martian and reindog is some crazy accusations
fallow cosmos
I genuine dislike this characterp
ever marvin i run into
Runs to the other side of the map
And spams the gun
Puts down the flag
And camps in it
ngl you guys might be as cheesy as banana guard
edgy ocean
Bruh what? All of us ar emostky aggressive
gloomy apex
in 1s marvin cant camp if u just sit on the ground
his only projectile that doesnt have a long cooldown requires him to do his entire jab to get it off
fallow cosmos
Are we fighting the same marvins
All u guys do is keep distance and run and shoot
Put down the flag
And camp in it
Then play aggressive when the ufo is shooting missles
edgy ocean
Not us
scenic carbon
Scrub marvins do that, yes
edgy ocean
We literally do 0 to deaths
gloomy apex
also like
90% of the characters in this game either have some kind of anti projectile, armor, or a projectile that beats out all of our projectile
actually i could be wrong but i cant think of a single character that doesnt fit this criteria
maybe joker
blissful lodge
working so hard for a kill but its so satisfying
edgy ocean
I honestly dont know whats wrong with me i just forget in 2 seconds on what moves the characters is mid match so i just pause there
I should just main one character its really messing me up
Ill stick to rick. I cant even do his portal combos now and misuse inputs lol
velvet vessel
Then play aggressive when the ufo is shooting missles
Losing to this play style is embarrassing
This character is still an assassin and needs to go in and do stuff
gloomy apex
more of a mage than basically any other "mage" in the game
velvet vessel
I dont agree
He doesnt use his projectiles in the same way as the mages like, at all
gloomy apex
maybe if u think of mages as like cooldown based ig
velvet vessel
Mages in this game focus on screen control
And marvin's toolset sets up hard to avoid scenarios that will outright kill you
His CD's dont carry enough threat on their own to be effective screen control. They're all kinda just set up's for you to play well off of and possibly kill at 0
edgy ocean
He doesnt use his projectiles for zoning he uses them to pressure and approach
That's why he isnt a mage
velvet vessel
Can marvin combo into flag? This just randomly came to me out the blue but you can apply the flag debuff without it being on CD, meaning you can probably combo into right? Jab jab down special into juggles?
I wish this character was more popular so resources were more accessible
gloomy apex
I wish this character was more popular so resources were more accessible
just think to urself "atleast hes not velma"
fixes all negative thoughts
velvet vessel
Damn. Worth asking
Back to trying out Bs in games and questioning if it was good or just the player being bad😞
velvet vessel
just think to urself "atleast hes not velma"
So true
gloomy apex
Anyone have any tips on more consistently jabbing instead of misinputting dash attack?
edgy ocean
I wish this character was more popular so resources were more accessible
It is getting popular. Go to characters and go to marvin chat
velvet vessel
Oh, thats interesting
gloomy apex
Are we not in the marvin chat…
edgy ocean
Anyone have any tips on more consistently jabbing instead of misinputting dash a...
I use doad
Dpad
gloomy apex
I didnt think about the fact u could bind jab to dpad
The controller i use has so few buttons its so hard lol
edgy ocean
Do u know a 0 to death or ladder combo with marvin?
gloomy apex
Do u know a 0 to death or ladder combo with marvin?
I mean he has a 0-70 against the entire cast off basically any hit
But i dont think he has a 0-death
edgy ocean
But i dont think he has a 0-death
He does maybe
gloomy apex
And laddering from the ground is really hard
edgy ocean
Idk if it can kill
edgy ocean
U slide the dpad not press
edgy ocean
Ya but game cube coontroller is too stiff to slide like that
Oh i didnt know u had a gamecube controller
gloomy apex
Wait how do u jab vs dash attack with dpad?
gloomy apex
Down air sair side special sair up special and maybe a up attack
I think sair side special sair only every works on di in
edgy ocean
I think sair side special sair only every works on di in
Im too lazy to set up my console to show
But it works
gloomy apex
U just said sair side special sair
Lol
Also ya i probably use more down airs on marvin than bad banna guards use side special
Its just the most disgusting move ever
edgy ocean
U just said sair side special sair
Oh that u have to jump to hit sair after side special
gloomy apex
Ya it just almost never connects
edgy ocean
I guess i can show u a clip
Nvm I dont have any
They should really pin the combos here
gloomy apex
Just add character specific clips chat
Im tired of opening the clips chat just to see 5 bugs bunny clips every time
untold summit
Struggling to figure out how to kill as Marvin. I can rack up damage and extend juggles but killing is so difficult
edgy ocean
Use flag
idle oak
what does the flag debuff even do
your projectiles lock on
steel oyster
what does the flag debuff even do
It's great until your on Dexter's lab with 4 platforms that destroy all projectiles.
clear sapphire
autumn patrol
He Just Needs To Be Able To Kill.
untold summit
Use flag
My issue isn't landing things my issue is that I'll hit a laser off the top with the enemy at like 140 and they still won't die, it's atrocious
steel oyster
Over 110 DAir -> up normal x2 kills pretty regularly unless super heavy
Also rocket at any DMG can kill
Surprisingly hitting button even without projectiles has pretty good knock back and can setup some ladders
untold summit
Also rocket at any DMG can kill
Well yeah but outside of specific setups and flag that's like saying Robin's Thoron kills really well from Smash.
steel oyster
I'm not saying it's good lol just noting how I kill in his current state
untold summit
That's fairrrr
steel oyster
DAir off stage is most consistent ko
fringe trout
Most of my kills are likely from the jab 3 blaster. If you catch someone off-stage, it can kill very early
gloomy apex
Dair up special around 90-110 is the best way to kill imo
Unfortunately if u miss the kill percent it stops connecting and it becomes significantly harder to kill
flat torrent
His CD's dont carry enough threat on their own to be effective screen control. T...
i wanna meet the Marvin that even POSSIBLY kills at 0
edgy ocean
Easy just 0 to death
pallid oasis
joker is some different kind of bullshi
velvet vessel
i wanna meet the Marvin that even POSSIBLY kills at 0
Its just getting luck with rocket set ups
pallid oasis
yea no marvin is
below D tier
honsetly
Other than the rocket
the earliest % u can kill at
is what
250?
300?
scenic carbon
sair kills around 160
pallid oasis
against the lighest character
gloomy apex
up b kills at 90 but ok
scenic carbon
Kills black adam
gloomy apex
dair up b kills every character in the game at like 90
pallid oasis
character's ass
scenic carbon
Don't play him then ig
broken pewter
below D tier
That’s crazy
gloomy apex
i mean very obviously either hes either exaggerating an absolutely insane amount or hes got some modded version of the game where martian is awful
pallid oasis
I love how arya
has a 150+ damage
true combo
that she sets up
with a jab
or an undodgable tp
still nerf marvin and morty
whose highest true combo damage
is 20
I also love how arya side b does 37 damage
thats super logical
that calls for a marvin nerf
gloomy apex
bro
u downloaded a hacked version of multiversus istg
marvin has a 90 damage combo thats easy af
gloomy apex
I also love how arya side b does 37 damage
it does 18
velvet vessel
This guy is coping hard
pallid oasis
honsetly marvin might just be
the only character
that is bad at literally everything
lol
pallid oasis
marvin has a 90 damage combo thats easy af
a true one
for sure bro
yeah I bet that's so true
marvin's highest damage true combo
does like
25?
bombs are so restarted
velvet vessel
^
Maybeeee you should look inward
Maybeeeee the character isnt the biggest issue
gloomy apex
also it starts off a jab a side b a dair a button and probably more things u can start it off
u can probably start it off sair althought im not sure
velvet vessel
u can probably start it off sair althought im not sure
No
You can do like, sair, side special,
Maybe if they DI in like an newbie
pallid oasis
dude did it like a million times in a tourne
send a single clip
pallid oasis
Maybeeeee the character isnt the biggest issue
mayybe
I was top 100 global
and mayyybe you weren't
so mayybe
you shouldn't talk
🤣
and top 50 on 4 characters
3
so mayyybe
you should know the facts before you make assumptions
no?
velvet vessel
As was I, and while we're on that topic. I don't think flexing your character rank is really the best way to show your skill
Especially when the betas playerbase was in the gutter and you could get top 1k in a day, and top 100 in like 3
broken pewter
I was top 100 global
This a completely different game ngl old ranks mean nothing besides saying you played well in the beta
velvet vessel
And thats being generous
velvet vessel
This a completely different game ngl old ranks mean nothing besides saying you p...
Real shiiiiiii.-nvm i cant say that wooooordddd in this family friendly discord
I hate that rule.
broken pewter
Gotta stay pg
pallid oasis
This a completely different game ngl old ranks mean nothing besides saying you p...
I have a
95% overall
winrate
in this releease
gloomy apex
send a single clip
dms
pallid oasis
so
arya numbers need to be checked
she has the highest damage output in the game
and isn't even top 5 lightest characters
gloomy apex
she just does not lmfao
broken pewter
95% overall
It only shows recent games played
gloomy apex
joker has a 0-death bro
gloomy apex
this dude
pallid oasis
Im not gonna disagree
velvet vessel
she has the highest damage output in the game
This is just false, and i'm an arya main what are you on about
gloomy apex
i legit sent him a video of marvin doing the 0-80 combo
and he still finna say "marvins highest damaging combo is 20%"
velvet vessel
i legit sent him a video of marvin doing the 0-80 combo
Yooo
slide that over i'ma need it for world domination later
steel oyster
i legit sent him a video of marvin doing the 0-80 combo
I'd be curious to see the combo and if you have target dummy set to dodge away after hitstun.
velvet vessel
Me dms are open asf for a 80% combo
pallid oasis
shes so bad
lmao
sure bro
she doesn't really have anything that good
but she has bs damage
and that's a fact
velvet vessel
Are..are we complaining about arya side special without knife?
velvet vessel
Yknow i have no problem owning up to when Arya has some bullcr. Some cheesy tools, however it's been a while
Out of every assassin you choose to have complaints about its arya and marvin
Do you also hate stripe? Like what is this roster of complaints
gloomy apex
idk bro basically told me in dms that the combo isnt actually true and no decent player gets hit by it
and then i told him ive hit it against like mirrorman and leviathan and bro said i dont believe u
queen swallow
marvin has a 90 damage combo thats easy af
what is it?
queen swallow
up b kills at 90 but ok
it kills at 90 pretty high up at least
broken pewter
what is it?
I believe he’s talking about the down air, button loops
pallid oasis
read di
so it
is
not
true
reading the opponent doesn't make a combo true
it makes them predictable
autumn patrol
I Don’t Know What’s Happening But Marvin Isn’t That Good Rn, Most People Agree On That. (Despite That He’s Still Fun, Just Not Worth It Due To How Tier Dependent The Game Is Rn.)
queen swallow
I think he is the most disagreed on character for some reason
broken pewter
I Don’t Know What’s Happening But Marvin Isn’t That Good Rn, Most People Agree O...
He’s been saying Marvin is like horrendous, and arya is busted
autumn patrol
He’s been saying Marvin is like horrendous, and arya is busted
Ok That’s Just Wrong, I Won’t Say Marvin Is Good Rn But Horrendous Is A Bit Of An Exaggeration, He Can Be Quite Helpful In 2’s.
queen swallow
^
pallid oasis
He’s been saying Marvin is like horrendous, and arya is busted
and now bro's lying
💀
I said arya is bad but her damage is a tad too much
pallid oasis
Ok That’s Just Wrong, I Won’t Say Marvin Is Good Rn But Horrendous Is A Bit Of A...
Strictly talking about 1s
broken pewter
You were saying how she has a 160 true combo
gloomy apex
He does
gloomy apex
And u said his highest damage combo was 20% lmfao
pallid oasis
if marvin had a 90 dmg true comkbo
that means
hes the best character in the game
or at least top 3
broken pewter
Which he is, he’s goat (I’m lying I just like Marvin)
autumn patrol
Marvin Has A 90% Combo? What’s The Inputs?
gloomy apex
The top 3 characters all have 0 to deaths lmao
pallid oasis
Marvin Has A 90% Combo? What’s The Inputs?
untrue button loops
gloomy apex
Well maybe not ww she just does everything else
pallid oasis
for 1s
gloomy apex
Dont really play 1s but probably
Ww
Gizmo
Steven
Joker
Harley
Bugs
Batman
gloomy apex
Anyone past that is meh imo and theres a large skill gap between those and the next highest
Bg maybe but he just sucks so much into the other top tiers i feel like he cant fit up there
gloomy apex
Banana guard
pallid oasis
oh yea yea
pallid oasis
also why is everyone playing supes
^
I mean he's not that good but
hes super annoying
gloomy apex
Cheesy character that can consistently kill at below 30
gloomy apex
Cheesy character that should realistically never win a game but u make one mistake u probably just die no matter what percent ur at
pallid oasis
Cheesy character that should realistically never win a game but u make one mista...
THAT
the pressure is also insane cause
you wanna punish him
but his moves have armour
so ur timing needs to be presice
gloomy apex
Ive died to skilled sniper at actual 0% before
pallid oasis
precise
pallid oasis
Ive died to skilled sniper at actual 0% before
no problem in that!
pallid oasis
I was 100% winrate
velvet vessel
Lofe feels so good
pallid oasis
but
icl
I got the mojo jojo map
20 times in a row
and I just alt f4ed
I cba
gloomy apex
I actually think one of the biggest issues i have with online at this point is the map pool
Lebron stage and mojo jojo are unplayable smash custom stages levels of bad
gloomy apex
Treehouse daytime is just awful to play on, dexters labotory i die at 0% off the top plat to half the moves in the game
Scooby doo mansion people just live to 200% if they stand in the correct places, throne room map is just awful against characters with bouncing projectiles or characters that can combo u into the wall for 200% off one hit(steven), and the rick and morty stage would be fine if they removed the stupid destructables
Trophys edge and batcave are like the only two playable stages and the hazards makes batcave kind of bad
queen swallow
sky plats trophy edge are just good
gloomy apex
Oh ya sky plats good as well
But considering the map rotation currently and the only map in the entire game not having platforms being batcave
Velmas projectiles getting broken on platform is the most unplayable thing in existence
gritty isle
The glitch where Marvin's flag doesn't clear from the enemy is funny. Wonder why it does that
steel oyster
The glitch where Marvin's flag doesn't clear from the enemy is funny. Wonder why...
Idk why but I've only had it happen to Harley twice.
gloomy apex
Ive had it happen probably atleast once every two games
flat torrent
Lebron stage and mojo jojo are unplayable smash custom stages levels of bad
people have played on Townsville for money which is crazy to me
broken pewter
#clips message instant air dodge usage
queen swallow
lol i do that all the time
kind pier
why is every skin in this game trash
i would buy a marvin skin if they werent all garbage
tired seal
aw the vday one is cute
broken pewter
i would buy a marvin skin if they werent all garbage
The valentines one is perfect
kind pier
The valentines one is perfect
yeah but not $10
broken pewter
Just gotta wait till Marvin gets a more extravagant skin
kind pier
almost every other character has a great skin
neat coral
the valentines day one is okay but i want one with smth else
kind pier
except marvin
neat coral
it's only small recolors
or a small extra accessory
i want accessories and cool colors
gritty isle
Commander X2 is cool. Do wish he could have something more fun though, yeah.
lost sand
https://discord.com/channels/879970800734711808/1009538859417215147/124984398132...
I didn't know about IAD until now, this is pretty cool.
signal junco
You can do like, sair, side special,
What’s the combo?
The combo I’ve been doing is the basic jab jab into jump button kick
neat rapids
man i wish marvin gets buffed this new projectile nerfs are dumb
if you dodge a projectile the hitbox get removed so you can't really reverse the projectile to get some crazy outplays
fringe trout
And don't even mention close range lock-on 
Bullets do fancy tricks but never hit anything
signal junco
Right 😭
edgy ocean
I was top 100 global
Tell me u dont main mmarvin without telling me
signal junco
Why tf can black Adam knock out at 57
WITH ONE MOVE
1 foot above the ground
I hope they fix the bug with Marvin and jokers explosive card
Cuz sometime that’s all I need to kill
spice perch
guys is it truly me or marvin is top three lightest characters in the game
I swear i get killed by everything
uncut spruce
He b a light boi
spice perch
tiny guy
keen umbra
hey does anyone have some tips for a baby martian?
gritty isle
Bubble outside of big bubble is still useful for some matchups.
And is always good for applying flame
pseudo tide
air side special is your friend, it's such a good "get off me" move
kind pier
Rick only has 1 skin
That's why I said almost
Everyone but Marvin Rick reindog
Had atleast one good skin
velvet vessel
Reindog and rick have good skins
Marvin's design makes him hard to make a skin for by the looks of it
He's so small and awkward
pallid oasis
Tell me u dont main mmarvin without telling me
I didn't
in the beta
lol
never said I did
terse dock
deep tartan
the marvin grind is something else but im dedicated
is heatseeker a good perk? thats what i been using
queen swallow
air side special is your friend, it's such a good "get off me" move
kinda agree idk its scary to use it trades a lot so watch out
queen swallow
is heatseeker a good perk? thats what i been using
thats usually considered his worst perk but its not terrible
Space invaders is most used here and I agree
fringe trout
Heatseekers are even harder to use when many characters can just break the ship in one hit
queen swallow
thats usually considered his worst perk but its not terrible
oops i got the perk name confused
that one is okay in 2s I wouldnt bother in 1s
lost sand
Prolly took me too long to notice, but I didn't realise how much pressure you could apply with the jab projectile. Like if they're campy for a bit, get that projectile out and apply various sorts of pressure
went past them and they didn't dodge it? reverse the trajectory
broken pewter
It’s really good and I have that on the screen constantly in 2s I just wish it wasn’t locked behind his whole jab string
rotund lantern
And past 100 it’s a very threatening projectile
That arcs and lobs and is weirdly slow and can reverse so it’s difficult to deal with
broken pewter
The amount of accidental spikes it gets is crazy
lost sand
I was able to get much better gameplay thanks to this late discovery
rotund lantern
Oh and it can home in
lost sand
and then, when they catch on to that and try to rush you
that's when you can start baiting them
rotund lantern
It’s the best thing you have at distance when your other moves are on CD, or when they’re trying to camp you out
That and grounded utilt to condition
fringe trout
Jab 3 best move
Only move that didn't get nerfed but instead buffed
People don't know what to do when I shoot it off a ledge and reverse
kind pier
what should i be using when going for a kill
queen swallow
what should i be using when going for a kill
Up B
scenic carbon
Anything will kill eventually
Button spike offstage for the dominance
clear rampart
does marvin's neutral special also work on enemy projectiles? im confused on if it does or not
fringe trout
No
Unless you capture them in a bubble
tropic vale
Marvin feels like assassin gizmo.
deep tartan
Marvin feels like assassin gizmo.
idk about that giz can kill at like 60%
autumn patrol
idk about that giz can kill at like 60%
With What? Car?
deep tartan
hell car and umbrella
rotund lantern
It’s important to remember with Marvin to not go for early kills
We will eventually kill with an Uair confirm, we succeed at being patient for it
Ofc go for kills when you can lol
Be patient but be aggressive
tropic vale
Be patient but be aggressive
That's exactly how to play gizzy, too
rotund lantern
Yup!
Ironically I really fell out of love with Gizmo between the beta and now
Idk he’s just not as fun anymore
tropic vale
Lucky for me I never played the beta so the new launch wasn't ruined
gloomy apex
H u h
I promise u as a gizmo player that character does not have to be patient whatsoever
U just approach with arrow on repeat almost nobody can deal with it
tropic vale
I promise u as a gizmo player that character does not have to be patient whatsoe...
Me who camps when I'm scared:
I will wait for 20 seconds in the corner with that bow
gloomy apex
Camping isnt being patient
Being patient is empty hopping until u get a whiff punish which gizmo never needs to do
tropic vale
It partly is, you have to wait, and if they close in you run and hide (just my personal experience tho)
tropic vale
Being patient is empty hopping until u get a whiff punish which gizmo never need...
Umbrella 10x better than car. I think we can agree on that
gloomy apex
Gizmo has easiest neutral in the game probably only steven is easier and steven neutral is punishable where arrow isnt
Umbrella is just disgustingly unfair and needs to be tuned down alot
tropic vale
Umbrella is just disgustingly unfair and needs to be tuned down alot
It's fine as is? Slow move with start and end lag that kills around 100
gloomy apex
Its not slow to start? And its not punishable because its active frames are still active while your able to dodge
And u can arrow into umbrella and kill most characters at 80
tropic vale
Are we talking grounded or air bc those are very different
gloomy apex
Why would u ever use grounded umbrella
tropic vale
When I forget car is off cooldown or I accidentally make a good read by whiffing bow
gloomy apex
U can umbrella halfway up from the map and keep it active all the way to the ground
tropic vale
U can umbrella halfway up from the map and keep it active all the way to the gro...
I don't use slow fall on the umbrella very often
tropic vale
On the way down I usually just try to make space IF I can
Marvin is cool but I'm probably gonna play him like a mage
gloomy apex
I think thats the best way to play him in 2s
In 1s its pretty bad since all his projectiles have long cooldowns and his only non cooldown is his entire jab animation
tropic vale
In 1s its pretty bad since all his projectiles have long cooldowns and his only ...
Marvin got a lotta cool downs. Like bugs. The only mage who is better at melee than range
gloomy apex
Thats not true
Mage class is basically gone nobody is better at range than melee in 1s anymore
tropic vale
At least from what I've seen, bugs whoops me in melee but can't do jack at range
tropic vale
Mage class is basically gone nobody is better at range than melee in 1s anymore
...yeah that's true mage is more "support" now
gloomy apex
Velma can brawl better than she can camp now, reindog sair, i think rick is technically a mage? For some reason?
tropic vale
Velma can brawl better than she can camp now, reindog sair, i think rick is tech...
Rick feels like.. none? Projectiles, good melee, and is hard to kill
gloomy apex
Nah rick is definitely a brawler or assasin
tropic vale
Velma can brawl better than she can camp now, reindog sair, i think rick is tech...
I forgot about Velma and reindog bc they were only good in the beta from what I'm aware of
tropic vale
Nah rick is definitely a brawler or assasin
Lemme double check
gloomy apex
His entire kit at this point is jab
Or i mean he should be*
Reindog is very good one of the only few with loops left
tropic vale
Lemme double check
Rick is a mage
gloomy apex
Ya he shouldnt be
tropic vale
His entire kit at this point is jab
Isn't that the case for half the cast? With tilts better than their specials? (Supes and gizmo.. and that's all I know bc that's all I play tbh)
gloomy apex
Gizmo has much more than jab
Yes jab is disgustingly broken on half the cast but they all have moves outside jab and jab is just the biggest punish they have
tropic vale
Gizmo has much more than jab
S tilt gets me half my damage (I am horrible on this game and mash half the time)
gloomy apex
But not like their neutral game and combo and kill move and the only thing they ever fish for
tropic vale
I feel like for supes none of his specials are kill moves besides grounded u-special
I rlly wanna get Marvin but that might take WEEKS bc none of my weeklies have FC.
I'm playing easy mode rifts for crumbs of FC for MTM
gloomy apex
Superman grounded side b can kill at 0
And will kill i think the entire cast from anywhere on any stage at 50
tropic vale
I feel like it doesn't kill on 50 but that's just my experience (I hit a Jason at 110 with non sniper side B and he lived.)
gloomy apex
Well thats ur problem
Why would u play superman without sniper punch
The perk is the entire reason its broken
tropic vale
No perk points at the time
I was playing default punch
I'm used to the default punch range, so IF I play supes it'll be a hard adjust
fringe trout
Sniper punch kills around 30 damage ☠️
#clips message
brave remnant
Is black Addam glitched?
Everyone is playing him right now and I just got kod in the strangest way
lost sand
He's on the f2p rotation if I recall
brave remnant
That's true but literally 30 black Adam's in 10 2v2 matches is wild
Other team was 2 BA over half the time
lost sand
Hmm
tropic vale
That's true but literally 30 black Adam's in 10 2v2 matches is wild
Bro you are a statistical one in a Million if your being on god
brave remnant
I mean I'm just checking if someone claimed him to be op recently or someone found a bug cause I thought it was a bit much.
flint drum
I think he's part of the character rotation this week
along with stripe, gizmo, and harley I think
brave remnant
Usually only see that many of one character if someone put out a big youtube video or something
I'm aware of the rotation
flint drum
it was just one possible explanation at least
brave remnant
But I had a match it was me black adam vs 2x black Adam's after legit 3 matches against 2 black adams
Just felt like it had to be more than just rotation
flint drum
hard to say for sure
but also on topic of marvin
went on a fun six win streak tonight
tropic vale
Should I just spend 10 dollars for Marvin
iron tulip
better to just wait and play with what you have
tropic vale
I'll do it tomorrow
queen swallow
But Gizmo is better obviously but im sure you are fine with that
Sorta kinda similar playstyles
tropic vale
But Gizmo is better obviously but im sure you are fine with that
I wanna play a character with actual kill potential
tropic vale
Marvin has his rockets, raygun, tilts. Gizzy has umbrella and up tilt,
IF your in the air maybe up special but that kills at 130
tropic vale
Marvin has RANGE
queen swallow
at kill if at all
tropic vale
Like BA lighting range
queen swallow
true
tropic vale
And he can STEAL YOUR PROJECTILES (it should apply to heavy projectiles/safe and super sammich)
queen swallow
truther
tropic vale
Marvin is just rlly good, and he can apply targeted in a non bogus way, like stripe, who gives it for just hitting you. Marvin needs to have you go in a specific zone or hit a down B
queen swallow
marvins bubble isnt his best anti projectile though
down tilt is his best anti projectile
tropic vale
down tilt is his best anti projectile
What's d-tilt again? I never play Marvin so jdk
queen swallow
bubble kinda sucks and loses to a lot of projectiles for whatever reason so its better for set ups ledge guard screen control you know
d tilt is laser forward
fringe trout
Bubble doesn't even reflect sometimes
We've straight up gone backwards
tropic vale
d tilt is laser forward
The big ray gun or the little one
queen swallow
the zap himself one
tropic vale
Bubble doesn't even reflect sometimes
We've straight up gone backwards
Non heavy projectiles?
tropic vale
the zap himself one
Idk it 😦
fringe trout
Non heavy projectiles?
Reindog fireball and bullet, sometimes shaggy sandwich
There may be more
tropic vale
Its like his down air but forward
Ok just say that next time
tropic vale
Reindog fireball and bullet, sometimes shaggy sandwich
There may be more
Why
Just say the one where his Glock backfires
queen swallow
but the laser just deletes everything its really good
but really punishable
cant really do it if they are sprinting behind the projectile
tropic vale
Gizmo and Marvin are the same, in my opinion. Both good close and at range
And MTM got a silly win waddle u can do
fringe trout
LeBron basketball sometimes
Just happened this past match
queen swallow
Marvin does not have a car
fringe trout
UFO with comically large rocket
tropic vale
UFO with comically large rocket
UFO is just a space car
queen swallow
Like Gizmo stuff works at all levels
tropic vale
Marvin got combo game like no tomorrow tho
queen swallow
Marvin stuff is very hard to do if the opponent knows the mu
um
kinda yeah
if you catch dis
his combos are really good
but the most he can get completely true
tropic vale
if you catch dis
I thought I would see a scout tf image throwing a flashbang
queen swallow
is jab jab air side air
queen swallow
I thought I would see a scout tf image throwing a flashbang
banger
tropic vale
is jab jab air side air
Better than nothing
tropic vale
You can dodge out of it?
queen swallow
gizmo isnt a horrible comparison but his best comparison is rick
queen swallow
You can dodge out of it?
yeah if you dont di in
tropic vale
Same with gizmos side tilt which acts like a jab combo
queen swallow
dont di in on marvins jab combo almost ever
tropic vale
dont di in on marvins jab combo almost ever
I'm too scared of MTM to even fight bc the last guy I 1v1d (gizzy v MTM) he cooked me but he said I was close
queen swallow
I would play games with you but my controller has been broken
tropic vale
I would play games with you but my controller has been broken<:AngryMarvin:10432...
Actually?
queen swallow
yep
tropic vale
I'm so sorry brother
queen swallow
And I ordered new ones
tropic vale
To many wonder women
queen swallow
and they were supposed to be here by now
but my damn seller hasnt even shipped them
tropic vale
What time is it for u
tropic vale
And I ordered new ones
From where
tropic vale
washington on ebay
Buddy you aren't getting those
queen swallow
no no 9:50
tropic vale
no no 9:50
Oh same time zone then
tropic vale
Go to Amazon
queen swallow
Yeah i just saw good deal and I awoogad
but i got scammed
not actually i mean maybe idk yet
Anyways
Giz is probably Marvins worst mu though
tropic vale
How so?
In d&d terms, Marvin subclassed into mage (assassin+mage) and gizmo subclassed into fighter
queen swallow
In d&d terms, Marvin subclassed into mage (assassin+mage) and gizmo subclassed i...
yeah lol
Umbrella is really really really strong esp into Marvin
Gizmo movement is insane
really easy to maneuver around Marvin screen control
And if he cant Marvins set play is really slow and active stuff
Gizmo has plenty of time to set up his own setplay
Gizmo is also especially hard to combo an inconsistency Marvin has
and Gizmo usually kills Marvin at earlier percents
with just having more consistent kill power than Marvins inconsistent kill power
tropic vale
But, Marvin's cool 😎
keen umbra
*im a martiaaaan*
boom shakalaka
queen swallow
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
Because I just want to see if there is a pattern or correlation
broken pewter
Didn’t play smash a lot but when I did always played pichu
queen swallow
I was a Mega Man main too
autumn patrol
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
I Main Kirby And Incineroar, But I Also Play Megaman, Peach, Rosa, Pac-Man, And Hero.
steel moat
sheesh i just went against bugs and i obliterated his kit
scenic carbon
Because I just want to see if there is a pattern or correlation
Greninja, Corrin, Link/YL/Megaman, haven't decided which one I like more
gloomy citrus
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
I play game & watch
He looks similar to Marvin in a way 🧐
queen swallow
kinda
tropic vale
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
Olimar and king k
rotund lantern
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
Shulk, Lucario, and Hero lol
Formerly DDD
flint drum
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
Steve, Banjo, Kazuya
maybe Hero and Terry to round out a top 5
I'm simply DLC scum in ultimate pfft
surreal coyote
Guys who do you Marvin players play in smash
k rool & terry, sometimes kazuya in ult
scenic carbon
Most reliable Marvin combo for me has been:
Dair/Side special/Bubble -> Jump button -> Bubble -> Up special -> Sair
lost sand
I think so
fringe trout
Devs have figured out that nerfing Marvin and buffing WW wasn't a bright idea ‼️ 🤔
You can now hold Acme pistol attacks 🗣️ #clips message
lost sand
fo real
lost sand
I've been using the button signature perk lately. This seems more fitting to my playstyle than the up air perk. I find myself not using the up air angles often enough and I usually angle it from the ground instead.
As for button, it gives me extra reach/speed on my jab 3 if needed among other things.
tropic vale
200+ wins in a day and a half grinding is immense
I got like 250 wins total wth
wooden kite
Marvins down attack description says you can hold the input but Marvin will take damage
I hold the button and direction down but nothing seems to happen?
does anyone know why this might be?
queen swallow
Marvins down attack description says you can hold the input but Marvin will take...
how it was in the beta
they didnt change it
going into release
deep tartan
I got like 250 wins total wth
trying my hardest to be top 100s
wooden kite
how it was in the beta
Ohh I see
Thank you
It’s weird how that function was removed but he’s doing it on the main title screen art
queen swallow
It’s weird how that function was removed but he’s doing it on the main title scr...
i mean he still shocks himself with down tilt rn
neat coral
Marvin.
queen swallow
the.
mighty lagoon
Martian.
fringe trout
Reporting for worrrld domination
tight laurel
is it just me or does marvins flag mark sometimes bugs on opponents and remains on until he dies
viscid temple
is it just me or does marvins flag mark sometimes bugs on opponents and remains ...
If you hit them on the head directly yes I think it's a bug
deep tartan
https://youtu.be/j96YzMSV0wI?si=N6HL8LwAzORN_h2P
hitting the lab right now
blissful pecan
hitting the lab right now
Heres something interesting about it so you know youll get it right, basically you want to hit the hitbox of the button rather than the one of the "switching icon" which means this combo is easier if you have all your switches on cooldown
Youll know that you hit it right because shaggy will ground bounce after the second button
If he doesnt then you failed it
blissful pecan
At 0 percent you can do 2 loops into the ender, above 20% you have to do 1
scenic carbon
Every part of the combo can be DI'd out, but if you dodge jump into button you can still hit. However, you'll want to go for nair -> up special since you just have to react to if they're still holding out with regular up special or if they switched to no DI/DI in, which would be turnaround up special
Also ignites if you have the flammable perk
blissful pecan
Every part of the combo can be DI'd out, but if you dodge jump into button you c...
How so? I had shaggy set to DI and try to dodge away
And no matter the DI the first jump cancel into the button seemed to work consistently
scenic carbon
Huh, it didn't look like it
My b I guess
blissful pecan
Ill double check later dont aorry
Worry*
If you get to lab it yourself too let me know
scenic carbon
I gotchu
blissful pecan
I gotchu
In general the training mode in this game is kinda doodoo lol cuz theres no actual combo counter when there was 1 in the beta
lost sand
Any patch predictions for marvin? Prolly no changes for him yet, ya?
flint drum
a 12 marvin win streak
brought to an end
by a joker banana guard team
the banana, no exaggeration, exclusively used side special
lost sand
The nanner strat
flint drum
this is why we must destroy the earth, to get rid of all these bananas
these bananas make me veeery angry, veeery angry indeed!
flint drum
also I think Marvin was untouched in this latest patch, I didn't see anything
lost sand
Yup. My prediction was correct.
silk pecan
Still no Marvin buffs 😢
idle oak
Still no Marvin buffs 😢
no nerfs tho so it could have been worse
my boy reindog got double tapped with this patch tho
gloomy apex
Ya but he needed his loop to be removef
idle oak
Ya but he needed his loop to be removef
no compensation for removed loop is crazy
also sair jab was di dependent
gloomy apex
Ya i agree compensation would be nice
But hes a very strong character just lacking people willing to play him
idle oak
he isnt anymore
silk pecan
Marvin desperately needs kill power
idle oak
i agree to an extent
silk pecan
Or kill options
Also, he needs his Beta combos back
Helmet -> Kick
He does have a few cool combos, but they aren't good online because of serious server issues, and with the good chunk of the cast having consistent 30% kill options, it's stupid Marvin is stuck with what he has.
idle oak
i agree
silk pecan
Bubbles don't need an altered version, charges should be like in beta, and if Rocket is his only kill option, Marvin is in trouble.
idle oak
having rocket simultaneously be his best kill option AND the only factor on if he can kill early or not is just
silk pecan
It's crap
Side B is also hot garbage
There's barely any reason to use it besides bubble combo or to start combos, but it comes back too slow.
queen swallow
@blissful pecan (Love xrd btw)
blissful pecan
<@835781786264141847> (Love xrd btw)
(Pog same also strive)
queen swallow
no
anyways
that combo is true on hitstun but not di
if they di in or no di
jump button is aye okay
if they di out tou have to boost jump
blissful pecan
Jab 2? I dont do a jab 2
queen swallow
actually wait
queen swallow
Jab 2? I dont do a jab 2
to start the combo
blissful pecan
Oh you mean the combo
I tought you meant the kill confirm
The one that ends in uair
Nvm lol
queen swallow
no but side special up special can be di’d out unfortunately
blissful pecan
Sadge
tropic vale
They nerfed gizzy but not MTM? wth PFG
blissful pecan
Gizmo was busted
blissful pecan
actually wait
Though i did set shaggy to di in random direction and the jab 2 into the button seemed to always combo
Weird
silk pecan
Marvin has combos, but no kill power
queen swallow
Though i did set shaggy to di in random direction and the jab 2 into the button...
try dodge out
queen swallow
yeah
hmm thats weird
maybe they shadow buffed marvin and made jab 2 jump button consistent
i doubt it
its probably a training mode thing
blissful pecan
Training mode is ass anyway lol
What part is uncomboing on your end?
Cuz it has some spacing related issues
queen swallow
Side special just blows back if you dont di in
blissful pecan
Oh
I guess the end might be fake then
But when it comes to the first part of the combo it seemed consistent
flint drum
just fought someone with steven universe everything (banner, icon, badges, a skin)
it was, as it always is, one of the worst and most annoying matches ever
but I still won, screw steven universe
fringe trout
His neutral air looks to be projectile immune now. Shuts down nearly every attack Marvin could counter with
scenic carbon
That's been my perspective since the show existed, this game didn't change anything
flint drum
oh yeah, stevens neutral air destroys the UFO in one hit
fringe trout
Sweetspot up air killed me at 70 from the floor once
lost sand
Was it with DI too?
fringe trout
Nah, got sent straight to the sky since I was expecting a horizontal attack
flint drum
some moves just have crazy insane knockback when they really don't need it
like I almost died off the top to ricks whip once
at 0, as big boi jason
wooden kite
Does anyone else have trouble capturing lebrons basketball with the bubble? Sometimes they both just break upon impact
I wonder if it’s a bug or something
fringe trout
Happens with many projectiles. Pie, Reindog's stuff, Harley's down gun. Hopefully this gets addressed
wooden kite
Oh dang
I hope so too
median citrus
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
queen swallow
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
okay:)
signal junco
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
And who do you play
Someone def lost to a Marvin
💀
queen swallow
you must not be very good if you think thats how marvins played
silk pecan
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
Bro has nearly 0 kill options. If you lost to Marvin, that is 100% on you.
lost sand
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
also, you do realise that once you dodge properly a projectile, you can't get hit by the same projectile again, right?
signal junco
jab jab air side b
That doesn’t seem like it does any dmg
Would jab jab button sair be better
median citrus
And who do you play
Arya
median citrus
Bro has nearly 0 kill options. If you lost to Marvin, that is 100% on you.
Yeah but in 2s when they just run a tank its not fair
They just spam dmg while tank tanks
silk pecan
Well in 2v2, go and target the Marvin.
signal junco
^
Wow the tank is tanking . Then go after the. Squishy one with 1/2 of a kill option
silk pecan
Marvin can't handle extreme pressure all that well except for a few select options. Plus, Marvin is pretty decent in Duos.
median citrus
Nuh uh delete marvin
queen swallow
Would jab jab button sair be better
that can di did sometimes
signal junco
It’s hit stun
signal junco
AKA: Where you decide to move and control your fighter
💀
silk pecan
Who was your teammate?
Arya usually pairs well with Tanks and Mages.
But I mean, if Marvin is throwing stuff out in Duos and you get hit, the Marvin is doing his job right.
scenic carbon
What’s di
Directional Influence
Moves normally have a specific launch angle and distance, but you can slightly change those by holding a direction when you're getting hit.
Most people refer to "DI in" and "DI away" meaning you're holding towards the opponent hitting you or away from them, which can help you escape combos.
When Marvin does jab -> jab -> button -> sair, the opponent can hold away from him during the jab to not get hit by the button at all
fringe trout
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
*Camp on the ledge and spam jab 3
silk pecan
*Camp on the ledge and spam jab 3
Good...good...
scenic carbon
*Flag the ledge while they're offstage and spam jab 3
autumn patrol
I hate all of u, U camp in a corner and spam, 0 skill
I’m Not Going To Argue But Homie We Can’t Even Kill Reliably Until 180. We Can Play Together At Somepoint If You’d Like To Get Better At The Marvin Matchup.
median citrus
I’m Not Going To Argue But Homie We Can’t Even Kill Reliably Until 180. We Can P...
True, I never get killed by him just rather take loads of damage or just quit, I just find his playstyle slow, He makes a game last ages because noone takes much dmg
autumn patrol
That’s Fair, I Hope I Didn’t Come Off Like I Was Bullying.
idle oak
lord forbid a character doesnt hold forward all game
queen swallow
*Flag the ledge while they're offstage and spam jab 3
up tilt even works if they are flagged
queen swallow
True, I never get killed by him just rather take loads of damage or just quit, I...
you are playing weird marvins if thats happening
Marvin is more aggressive than most the cast
his cooldowns are too long to simply zone
wooden kite
That’s what I was thinking too
I’m getting super into Marvin as a character because of this game
I feel like I’m late to the party by 30 years tho lol
Good merch seems hard to find now
gloomy apex
marvin bubble on lebron ball seems inconsistent and works only half the time?
wooden kite
Yeah I’m having that problem too
merry compass
He seems to have this problem quite often with a lot of projectiles honestly. Especially his jab projectile after a while it no longer has a hurtbox
He needs a fix
merry compass
So I figured out it's when he recalls them back do most projectiles eventually lose their hurtbox even if they're still onscreen and can be used. This includes his side special + bubble which is really quite annoying. His rocket as well
fringe trout
When an opponent dodges a projectile, the projectile loses its hitbox. This doesn't seem intentional since that is what parrying is supposed to do
merry compass
Hmm I don't understand that cause if you dodge Bug's Rocket but not all the way you get hit by it coming out of dodge. And I don't really like that aspect considering he's a projectile character and it's a huge part of his pressure.
fringe trout
Exactly
He feels this issue the worst since hitting twice with projectiles (reversing) is a huge part of his playstyle. Doesn't work when you can simply dodge once and nullify the projectile
brazen inlet
Wonder woman players are the worst nightmare for marvin
Whole ass unfair match up into her
Ngl got so salty against a wonder woman player that I ||sent him a death threat|| 💀💀💀
flint drum
||deserved tho, WW is just not fun to fight||
brazen inlet
Ikr
Armor on her slide or dash
The shield one
Where it breaks armor
And
Somehow blocks projectiles
flint drum
its crazy too cus WW players try to tell you she isn't a massive problem
brazen inlet
If I used bugs, I would be winning
brazen inlet
its crazy too cus WW players try to tell you she isn't a massive problem
Nah never heard that
But
They all braindead
It isn't fair as Marvin brooo
Marvin has like
Insanely slow melee
tropic vale
Bugs is the WW of mages.
brazen inlet
And relies heavily on projectile and set up
flint drum
I remember a clip going around of Nakat saying something along the lines of she doesn't need to be nerfed cus she can be beaten
like broooo???
brazen inlet
Bugs is the WW of mages.
As a bugs main, nah. Not reall
At least he can be screwed over
brazen inlet
I remember a clip going around of Nakat saying something along the lines of she ...
Long ago I'm pretty sure
Open beta prolly
flint drum
no cus he mentioned jason
so it was full launch
tropic vale
As a bugs main, nah. Not reall
There was a bugs I had at 193% exactly as shaggy and the bugs didn't die
brazen inlet
There was a bugs I had at 193% exactly as shaggy and the bugs didn't die
You prolly couldn't lock him down
tropic vale
I hit that man with a fully charged shaggy neutral Attack and that man LIVED
I quit soon after ofc
Def a skill issue, but god dang is he hard to deal with as superman
flint drum
I've been doing pretty well as Marvin tho, I had a 12 win streak going the other day
compared to my constant back and fourth as jason cus everyone is playing top tiers
tropic vale
I wanna have Marvin but I'm poor 💀
flint drum
I grinded out marvin gameplay during the beta so he naturally stayed unlocked
flint drum
I actually ended up having everyone (but the newcomers of course) unlocked during full release
which I was slightly confused by cus I know damn well I didn't unlock steven universe (I have him)
but I guess I have like 80% of the roster unlocked so they just gave me everyone lol
brazen inlet
I don't think I'm wrong for sending that message to the WW ngl
Not even skill issue
Just
Unfair matchup
flint drum
lost on character select screen
cus god forbid you tried to have fun
brazen inlet
lost on character select screen
cus god forbid you tried to have fun
Not even black Adam is this annoying
Like
Legit
At least you can outplay him
But WW is a no
Legit these nerfs have done 0 crap to WW
Cd on lassi
Lasso*
Nothing
flint drum
just so much armor on everything
tropic vale
I see ba, bugs, Marvin, or WW I know it's GGs
tropic vale
just so much armor on everything
Same with Superman but supes moves aren't as spammable
fringe trout
Aside from sniper punch, Superman seems fair
tropic vale
Aside from sniper punch, Superman seems fair
The LASERS.
It's so horrendously bad as someone who might have supe be the primary main again
lost sand
I don't think I'm wrong for sending that message to the WW ngl
I dunno man...
||I personally wouldn't send something of that caliber, deserved or not.||
brazen inlet
I dunno man...
||I personally wouldn't send something of that caliber, deserved ...
But the mf was acting like he was better than me
When we all knew he was using that fighter
fringe trout
The LASERS.
They covered the entire floor in beta 😭
Just keep an eye out for when Superman jumps to shoot them
flat torrent
sending a message after a match is crazy
lost sand
But the mf was acting like he was better than me
Just from gameplay itself or from something that was said?
Eitheir way, we're better than that.
tropic vale
They covered the entire floor in beta 😭
Just keep an eye out for when Superman...
It should be a quick, long, straight shot with a cool down, and when used off cooldown it does a bit of knockback, and burn, and should be his neutral special, his down special should be ice breath
brazen inlet
Just from gameplay itself or from something that was said?
Taunting, tea bag, side to side
lost sand
So gameplay.
I know the match up can be pretty sucky sometimes. But who cares what he thinks of you. You already know that you're better than the WW.
Doing... whatever you did probably just gave him an even bigger ego boost.
And if that's not enough, just keep rematching if possible until you can beat the odds.
Just don't let em get to you, that's exactly what they're trying to do.
brazen inlet
And if that's not enough, just keep rematching if possible until you can beat th...
I've fought against him 3 times.
lost sand
That's rare. Most tend to just 1 and go.
idle oak
we marvin mains have standards
tbag and side to side all you want but death threats? absolutely not
wooden kite
marvin does have one of the funniest tbags in the game
tropic vale
I bought 10$ starter pack, I bought Taz and now I'm buying MTM
wooden kite
have fun with him!
tropic vale
have fun with him!
I eill
wooden kite
He’s very delightful
tropic vale
Very
queen swallow
I bought 10$ starter pack, I bought Taz and now I'm buying MTM
legggio
kind pier
black adam flying icon goes so hard