#Marvin The Martian

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silk pecan
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Sure! So at early percents, you mostly are gonna be doing Air Side B into Air Boot

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At the start of the match, its wise to fire at least one bubble and then go for that string. If you catch them lacking, you can get off either up Air blasts or a charged down Air which can lead to a free boot or juggle.

lyric walrus
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Bubble attack is a ranged projectile with a cool down that then turns it into a close ranged attack right?

silk pecan
lyric walrus
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Oh, cool

silk pecan
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So it's always good to use it against zoners or people spamming projectiles

autumn patrol
queen swallow
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Hello my fellow marvin goats

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no cooldown bubble is a great combo tool

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has a lot of hitstun

viscid temple
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Marvin is the goat, FOR MARS! AngryMarvin

clear sundial
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sair into side special in the air is true

dark zealot
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Anyone know y the down attack dosent hold beam anymore

rotund sapphire
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Which perks are good on this little guy

clear sundial
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space invaer, flammable doc, speed force, armor breaker

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just found a crazy string

heavy edge
queen swallow
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I found a 60 percent combo I think off jab

normal elm
queen swallow
agile ermine
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The best way and easiest way to kill with Marvin, is to abuse Flag. Mark them and you can either use Jab3 to kill, or use the rocket to have it track them down.

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And on top of that, Marvin can actually box really well with his Sair and helmet

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You can literally carry people off the side of the screen if you link them up properly

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In 1's, boxing with him when you're close, and then mixing in the projectiles works extremely well for me.

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In 2's, flag and rocket are extremely important, and being able to watch when your teammate is juggling so you can capitalize on a kill with upair

nova cave
agile ermine
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Idk if anyone has actually asked or got an actual response from a dev, but I think it's on purpose and they just didn't change his text

heavy edge
terse dock
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They just forgot to update his movelist

queen swallow
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I assumed it was intended because they changed the beam color too

queen swallow
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marvin is beyond bad at killing oml

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yeah they need to buff charged sair and uair imo

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I shouldnt have to do 450 percent every win

queen swallow
velvet vessel
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A marvin just 2-0'd a team in mirrormans tourny

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Hes got rep yoy guys!!

queen swallow
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oh dopee

spare sage
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in a day I've become a Marvin main glad I picked him to buy

supple girder
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Marvin the martian is short king

fringe trout
copper leaf
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just one i think. hes still in it at top 8

queen swallow
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Yeah its just banman

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hes with an IG

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good comp

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since marvin can cover a lot of what your teammate does and igs a bully as long as he doesnt get bullied

velvet vessel
spare sage
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I realized Marvin has a peak teabag cause he makes a noise everytime he crouches

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Also apparently there’s an anti camping thing in the game I was just messing around after friend desynced or something

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And you just get a message above your head that says “STOP CAMPING” and your dodge meter starts draining until you land a hit

pseudo tide
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not that marvin should camp given his ground speed but that's hilarious

spare sage
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Think it only applies if you’re trying to stock camp for time

violet hemlock
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Enjoy

spare sage
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I’ve been

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Think I’ve just been winning on everyone failing the knowledge check

pseudo tide
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marvin pays off by being the funniest character and also his victories being so satisfying once you get your enemy cornered into an unescapable death

spare sage
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I’ve screamed “YOU FOOL” more than once

violet hemlock
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But man it is painful lol

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Everyone kills us with way less work

pseudo tide
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the price of being a lightweight

pseudo tide
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i love getting marvin team dittos but i hate disconnecting because the game hates it when i'm having fun

queen swallow
idle oak
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hey chat
how does marvin use neutral projectile in 1s, especially against an opponent without projectiles?

untold summit
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You can use it as a pressure tool.

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Not to mention you can also throw your own projectiles into it

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Reversing it around is pretty good as a baiting tool

queen swallow
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also you can use it to recover

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by shooting it at ledge to cover your recovery

untold summit
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Good shout yeah

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Similarly though you can use UFO for that if it's up

idle oak
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tysm!

idle oak
queen swallow
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it definitely is

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you can jump and shoot it at a downward too

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and the button can cover a lot of angles

untold summit
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I mean for what it is it's actually pretty active

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It WAS designed as an antiprojectile tool after all

idle oak
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true

untold summit
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But taking that away it's... middle of the road in active frames

queen swallow
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its not very good as an anti projectile

untold summit
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Agreed but still

queen swallow
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but projectiles it absorbs actually makes the move worse

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Like if ww lassos your orb you no longer have your projectile up

supple girder
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Hello

untold summit
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Heya!

supple girder
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How's everyone

untold summit
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Not too bad, doing the power up pledge event while considering which characters to take seriously

supple girder
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Is marvin a lifestyle

queen swallow
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for me it is

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not always a good one but it is pne

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one

supple girder
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Marvin best character

desert mesa
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Marvin is my main

queen swallow
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marvin is my main

crimson flint
queen swallow
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Well bubble is great with marvins own projectiles

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but things you have to detonate also dont work

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its good against less projectiles than it is good against

queen swallow
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also it doesnt work against a lot of projectiles

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Jerry

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Safe

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Rocket

crimson flint
queen swallow
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I dont believe so

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let me check

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well I cant check because this training mode is poop water

lyric crystal
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How does Marvin the Martin play??

crimson flint
edgy ocean
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Can anyone send me combos for marvin?

edgy ocean
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Marvin is more fun than rick

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Before u can combo with his neutral special all the time like fpz now its too slow

queen swallow
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bnb

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marvins more about intricate set ups for his combos

edgy ocean
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Yeag

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Can wr still do the infinite combo tho,

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Like fpz did in the tournues

queen swallow
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um i doubt it

edgy ocean
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Just like spam his neutral special on enemy

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The reverse

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I dont think it works anymore

queen swallow
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yeah it def doesnt

edgy ocean
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Too slow

queen swallow
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button in combos isnt worth it anymore unless you already have 0 charges

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because button is necessary for set ups

edgy ocean
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Yeah

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Tbh that infinite combo looked so cool for me

queen swallow
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he still has so loops

edgy ocean
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Especialy since marvin is more of a projrctile guy

queen swallow
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with button if you want

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jab jab jump button is true

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that can lead to sair

edgy ocean
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Is it hard to pull off? If yes then i dont think its worth a risk for a few dmg that isnt guaranteed

queen swallow
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nope

edgy ocean
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Ohh uts obky tgatt

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Tho

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Isnt the normal jab combos better than that?

queen swallow
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jab3 is good at really high percents

edgy ocean
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Ohhh

queen swallow
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if they di in they get hit and die

edgy ocean
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Thanks I was quite struggling killing sometimes

queen swallow
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if they di out it whiffs but gives you a mix up

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because you have the jab3 projectile bouncing around

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you can turn that around with button

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and interesting things can be done with that since the u air and jab3 projectile launch opposite of where they hit

edgy ocean
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I believe he was labeled as a mage but now as an assasin since people saw him more of a assasin

queen swallow
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i think he should be labeled both like steven is a mage and a tank

edgy ocean
queen swallow
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in mvs beta he was an assassin but hes probably more of a mage again

edgy ocean
queen swallow
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yeah speed changes changed his play style

edgy ocean
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What do u prefer tho?

queen swallow
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his mix ups arent as scary anymore but his set ups are scary scary

edgy ocean
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I didnt manage to play beta but I was keeping up with the game

edgy ocean
queen swallow
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Ummmm I think its def more healthy now

queen swallow
edgy ocean
edgy ocean
queen swallow
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Like healthier for the state of the game

edgy ocean
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I see

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Tbh rn im having fun with the game, its just more of a grind

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Marvin is the best investment i did, i had alota fun and alota wins

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And he is goofy

queen swallow
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yeah I think dodge meter was a good change but besides that the game is worse

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yes marvin is the coolest character in the game

edgy ocean
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The zoom sucks tho

queen swallow
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The zoom

edgy ocean
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Sometimes i cant see where bugs rocket is

queen swallow
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speed was overtuned

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quality of life changes like

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being able to switch side attack and jab inputs are just gone

edgy ocean
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I hope they do make the change soon, i believe theybsaid they will fix the zoomz speed etc.

queen swallow
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practicing with characters you dont have

edgy ocean
queen swallow
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game engine problems like Jakes up special breaking the game

edgy ocean
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Some lag sometimes

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Do u think it will be fixed soon?

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Man when the speed gets faster I hope I dont get all bad

queen swallow
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i kinda doubt it tho

edgy ocean
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They did say they will but i still doubt

queen swallow
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probably not soon

flat torrent
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anybody else experiment with the platform perk? learned you can drop flag from the generated terrain without having to drop with it

queen swallow
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its a good perk but need experimenting fs

broken pewter
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Just hit a crazy Marvin clip #clips

wary garnet
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how is this character?

broken pewter
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Amazing

rose glen
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Can anyone else not hold down extend the down attack like in the beta, because the move list still says you can and I need to make sure i'm not being stupid.

fringe spear
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This entire time I thought Marvin was a mage character.

onyx maple
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is marvin fun?

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is he very neutral orientated?

sour basalt
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best marvin perks?

edgy ocean
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What perks shoulf I be usin?

idle oak
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but the other 2 idk

sour basalt
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i see insane air walker potential with marvin

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side light literally combos into side light

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example:

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shoot i cant post videos in here

sour basalt
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4th perk its between pugilist, armor killer, and armor crush

edgy ocean
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Man, its hard to mix up with marvin

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I cant kill them even at 125%

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Been losing nonestop

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Can u guys like help me? Ill send gameplay

agile ermine
agile ermine
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His forward aerial kick is also really good for killing and comboing if you are closer to the edge

edgy ocean
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The only thing im acyually hitting most og the time is down air

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Hard to get close to combo characters

agile ermine
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Here is an example for using his Fair

edgy ocean
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They always dodge mo tho

agile ermine
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well its not like a true combo everytime. Percent matters, character weight and size, etc..

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It's more of a concept and usage

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Marvin isn't as straight forward and doeant have crazy combos like everyone else

edgy ocean
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What does the flag do?

agile ermine
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If the opponent get hit by the flag, or steps into the circle that the flag has around it, it marks them and makes your projectile track them

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Hold on I have a good example lemme grab it

edgy ocean
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So whats his neutral game?

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Maybe im too aggressive

agile ermine
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Are we talking 1's or 2's

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Because imo it is important

edgy ocean
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1s

sour basalt
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nomai whats the best 4th perk? i dont know what to use

agile ermine
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Here is like a good 30 seconds of 1's gameplay against this insane morty player. Im not good at explaining his neutral through text because it's kind of hard for Marvin, so I hope this gives you a good idea.
https://streamable.com/xw0qfs

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also sorry if you hear my friend in the background watching

edgy ocean
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It's alright

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So heres the thing, I am winning half of the time BUT when its the last hit. I suddenly suck

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I think i suck when the enemy is high percentage

agile ermine
edgy ocean
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Like I overcommit maybe or something

agile ermine
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@edgy ocean also at the end did you see that the rocket tracked to him?

edgy ocean
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Mann how u guys using his side special

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Im bad at usin it

agile ermine
nimble kernel
agile ermine
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I can record an example

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it doesnt

nimble kernel
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Huh

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Strange

agile ermine
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thats where the hard part comes in

nimble kernel
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It happened to me

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I have a clip

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Can I send you the video in dms?

agile ermine
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Yeah sure

edgy ocean
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Alright I slowed down my oace and my mix up gottrm better or maybe my opponents are just bad

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So its better to use side air special before s light well sometimes because after that u can mix it up wuickly with s light

agile ermine
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For anyone else that wants to see, this is how flag works. Watch how the marker above shaggy goes away once he leaves the circle, versus when he stays in the cicle. While the Marker is on them, you can shoot a projectile and it will track them, You can kill with rockect tracking them, or Jab3. If there is something that keeps it on them as a permanent marker, please let me know
https://streamable.com/e18p9c

idle oak
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whats the best combo to do from grounded side b?

agile ermine
# sour basalt what abt third

I personally use

  1. Space Invader
  2. That's Flammable Doc
  3. Last Stand (to help with the extra knockback that the Weakened status applies, we need this to kill them easier when they are at high percent)
  4. Pugilist or Static
idle oak
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how do you make static work? i find jumping for side air or side b more worth tbh

sour basalt
agile ermine
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Idk if this is the best per say, but whoever posted this vid earlier shows a good concept

agile ermine
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and towards the top they will do side Special to pull them back in and kill off top

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I can see the vision, but I havent tested it myself

edgy ocean
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Ok ive gotten better somehow

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I guess i shoykdnt chase knowing i woukdnt mix it up with anything

placid minnow
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Marvin is awesome

fathom mango
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Can some Marvin main tell me if they encountered any glitches specific to Marvin?

placid minnow
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I’ve caused Xbox players to crash though

agile ermine
placid minnow
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Marvin has great mix up potential even with everything on cooldown

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Side special and dair are super key for me

agile ermine
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I have multiple clips of it because I was mad that they didnt hit

agile ermine
placid minnow
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What are you guys thinking are some of Marvin’s worst matchups

fathom mango
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damn i appricate this more than you know ❤️

placid minnow
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I struggle with BG tons

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Idk if it’s just my approach style or what

agile ermine
placid minnow
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Exactly

agile ermine
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so that MU, you just have to out-neutral him and bait his side special

placid minnow
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Down normal even struggles to hit BG side special

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And that thing is LONG

agile ermine
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WW and Jake are kind of hard, because they both have move and abilities that ignore/deflect projectiles

idle oak
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i struggle against ww

placid minnow
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Everyone struggles against WW

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Like every character

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Even WW struggles against WW

agile ermine
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and thats why I also play her

placid minnow
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I just can’t bring myself to do it

agile ermine
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need a pocket WW for the projectile people

placid minnow
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That’s a dangerous path

agile ermine
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I was playing her before I found Marvin, so it's not too bad

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lol

idle oak
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i mained her when i played in the beta but now i just cant be bothered

agile ermine
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but I understand the hate because she is annoying

placid minnow
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I have stripe for match ups I don’t like with Marvin, cause even when I’m losing with stripe I’m having fun

agile ermine
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i mained jake.... but we all know how that went

placid minnow
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Aslong as I’m playing Marvin and I hit a nasty button switch I feel like I won

agile ermine
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jake some cheeks now, but now I have Marvin and WW, so i amd good

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getting a kill with button switch will always be the best feeling

placid minnow
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I got stripe to Level 8 on like day 1 then barely played him after unlocking Marvin

edgy ocean
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Marvin against aggressive combo chaarcters is so hard

sour basalt
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is a zero to death combo possible?

placid minnow
placid minnow
agile ermine
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or in 2's when you assist your teammate with an upair to snipe off the top

edgy ocean
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Arya is nuts

placid minnow
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I don’t want people playing my favorite character for a 0 to Death

idle oak
idle oak
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i feel like i get caught by the second hit every time

edgy ocean
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U can still use his buttons to combo but idk

agile ermine
placid minnow
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If you’re on Marvin specifically jump and Dair

edgy ocean
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Im still not used to his kovrset so i forgot what moves next to do a combo with

edgy ocean
agile ermine
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Dair leads to soooooo much

placid minnow
placid minnow
edgy ocean
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Do u guys mind looking at my gameplay and see whats wrong with my marvin?

sour basalt
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also whats with that weird side b neutral attack glitch

placid minnow
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You can even Dair into up air and repeat until they finally dodge

edgy ocean
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The gameplay isnt fighting an insane plsyer tbh

agile ermine
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dair-> Button-> whatever you want before they are able to dodge

edgy ocean
placid minnow
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I love dribbling people at low percents with Dair and up air

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Also side special into up special with ship into a meaty aerial side special feels insanely good

agile ermine
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im not a pro, Im just giving my opinion on what I've been doing. So far I've been playing real good people, so I think I'm doing well

placid minnow
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I held my own against some pretty great players, but this one aria I just faced through this server was cooking me

agile ermine
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at least with jake my highest 1's rank was 12, but now idk where I am with Marvin until ranked comes out

placid minnow
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I know Marvin super well but I need to adjust my general gameplay

agile ermine
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@edgy ocean you can DM me gameplay

placid minnow
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Also hope my internet doesn’t just drop, which is the entire reason I don’t enter tourneys yet

edgy ocean
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I was fighying a shaggy noob but I can assure u I can even with good players.

placid minnow
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If you’re able to I wouldn’t mind seeing it

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I won’t give advice cause I’m still learning

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But I want to see what I do different

sour basalt
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same

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gave up rick for this guy

placid minnow
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Hoping to see some Marvin at Mirrorman’s tourney today

sour basalt
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im labbing for combos rn

edgy ocean
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I sent it in ur dms

edgy ocean
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Love his portal combos

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He is just too slow to he like he once before

sour basalt
placid minnow
sour basalt
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they really destroyed his combo game

edgy ocean
placid minnow
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Idk with Marvin I like learning my combos while seeing how people react so I know what to do in different situations

edgy ocean
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Mann i think its just sbmm

placid minnow
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Like it’s casual so I lowkey just go for combos sometimes instead of trying to win

edgy ocean
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Maybe im not rlly good im just fighting noobs

placid minnow
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You’d be surprised

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Sometimes a good player looks like a noob if you mess em up enough

edgy ocean
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Its like the flow state

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U dont wanna get caught up in his rhytm

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Thats how i call it

placid minnow
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How often do you guys actually hit with bubbled rockets

edgy ocean
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I mean when ur falling to his rhyym he can basically read ur every next move

edgy ocean
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Too much chaos to do it

placid minnow
edgy ocean
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Its funny when they taught they were ok when the rocket passes by

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But then it reverses and kills them

placid minnow
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omg when I’m getting combo’d but my rocket hits them in the back it’s the best feeling ever

edgy ocean
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My only strugglr with marvin is high percentage gameplay. I choke so much when they are high percentage.

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Basically when high percentage, dont try to combo lol

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Overcommiting sucks

placid minnow
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But down normal and rush attacks can do really good knockback

edgy ocean
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Marvin is fun to play

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Rick is so sweaty imo

brave pendant
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I always find using Marvin's shooting up ability is good but you only do small damage and you can't ring out someone unless you fully charge it

edgy ocean
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My least fav character gotta be fin

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Playing him stresses me out

brave pendant
edgy ocean
sour basalt
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rate the combo

brave pendant
sour basalt
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thats on dodge on hitstun btw

edgy ocean
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Was that a gravitu cancel??

sour basalt
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airwalk

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broken as hell if used correctly

edgy ocean
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So thats the perk

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Its good but tbh its easily dodgable

sour basalt
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yup

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yeah idk how well dodge on hitstun works

edgy ocean
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Most of thr characters have few true combos now

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Unles ur made for combos

sour basalt
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i was just labbing so that combo may not be true

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i find combos insanely quickly tho

edgy ocean
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With dodge nahh not possible but no dodge and jump yeah they r dead

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But that combos might be bad on mid percentages

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And high u know high knockbsck

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Dont know until we try right?

sour basalt
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just checked its barely dodgable

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i only saw him stand up after i used the reverse and fair

fathom mango
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does Marvin have a infinite combo

edgy ocean
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No he doesnt anymire

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Before u can spam his neutral special, fpz was a beast

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U can now but since everything is so sloe its so easy to dodge

fathom mango
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yea he also had that button glitch

agile ermine
fathom mango
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which was infinite lol

placid minnow
edgy ocean
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Side special is weird to me

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Why use that if u can use side attack?

placid minnow
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It pulls them in so you can extend into a combo

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Side special into up special is nice

edgy ocean
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I meant side air special

placid minnow
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Oh cause it’s got more range, more knockback, better hitbox, and more damage if I’m not mistaken

sour basalt
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gonna find more combos after lunch

clear copper
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should i buy marvin even tho he is c tier in every tier list

placid minnow
clear copper
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ok bet buying him now

placid minnow
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I would make a tier list but I’ve genuinely not seen half the roster in 1s

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Like I’m not sure Reindog or Velma actually exist

sour basalt
edgy ocean
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I grinded the heck everyday to get marvin, so worth

placid minnow
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Definitely like top of B

sour basalt
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im gonna gatekeep marvin til the day i die

sour basalt
edgy ocean
placid minnow
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He has a lot of faults

sour basalt
placid minnow
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S characters have basically none, or have infinites

placid minnow
sour basalt
edgy ocean
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A ig tried infiniting combo me but failed every attempt, was so funny

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He still won tho.

brave remnant
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I hit a nasty rocket into bubble

placid minnow
brave remnant
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That's a big boy bubble

sour basalt
placid minnow
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I like Marvin a lot cause even when I accidentally do something cool I look smart

brave remnant
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I love how Marvin talks that good ish the whole time

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So smug and superior

placid minnow
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He talks so much trash

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It’s great

edgy ocean
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But that line hurts me more when bugs said it to me

sour basalt
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his crouch walk is hilarious

edgy ocean
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I was one hit away from winning with marvin

placid minnow
brave remnant
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I feel like he can 1v2 other lights/projectile characters

sour basalt
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his down air is crazy for 2v2s

placid minnow
clear copper
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whats the build yall use

brave remnant
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If you alternate bubble/hit/bubble/special and just hold your ground

placid minnow
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Especially a black adam yeesh

edgy ocean
placid minnow
brave remnant
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Not never

sour basalt
brave remnant
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You rifleinto upspecial for lethal

sour basalt
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marvin perks are heavily based on personal choice

placid minnow
placid minnow
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Seems like a decent player will dodge right out of that, use side special into up special

brave remnant
sour basalt
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i feel like up special should be used way more for knocking players up

placid minnow
brave remnant
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I catch people with the rifle, pulls them in and up, quick upspecial finishes at high percent

brave remnant
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You just gotta be okay with being patient

sour basalt
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people use it for missile setups but its INSANE for combo extending

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air waaaalk

placid minnow
placid minnow
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Even with side special

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Because side special fades out fast

sour basalt
brave remnant
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How good is ufo for counter edge guard, I was thinking about this like if you drop below edge. Call ufo and stand on it to aim rocket at the edge above you

placid minnow
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You can bubble it but again a good projectile character will not let you

agile ermine
brave remnant
#

You bubble their projectile

placid minnow
mighty lagoon
#

Yo guys

mighty lagoon
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is marvin worth getting ?

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Im between marvin and morty

brave remnant
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I bubble the enemies projectiles for my opening with the rifle

placid minnow
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But like a said a good projectile character won’t let you get that off unless you already have advantage

mighty lagoon
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Also he looks like a mage but is an assassin for son reason

agile ermine
placid minnow
#

Black Adam kills all your potential options from my experience

brave remnant
#

Like I'm mostly just defending my space until I get a hit off my bubbles

sour basalt
mighty lagoon
sour basalt
agile ermine
placid minnow
brave remnant
#

Yeah I'm not forcing anything on Marvin, that feels like windpissin, and I lose ground. I'm mostly trying to hold space until I see an opportunity to convert for meaningful dmg

placid minnow
#

Bubbling another projectile characters attacks really isn’t great cause they can just throw out another which doesn’t have a cooldown unlike your bubble

brave remnant
#

I press in behind it tho

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Is the point

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It covers my entry

sour basalt
brave remnant
#

And I'm rifling

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If that lands you aren't doing a thing

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You're eating an upsp

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Again I'm not just doing that raw, it's when the bubble catches

placid minnow
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My main issue with doing that is you’re still not in an advantage state, all they have to do is mix one thing up and your hit

agile ermine
brave remnant
#

Sure it's a risk, but that's how one finds reward

placid minnow
#

Marvin only has good options for getting in when A: he’s off cooldown B: your opponent is already struggling

brave remnant
#

Can't just wait for gaurenteed options, your opp knows them too

placid minnow
#

What you’re saying is, do something that most of the time won’t work because sometimes it will

brave remnant
#

No I'm saying find those moments that it does

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Not force them

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Fish for them

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Condition opp

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Make read

placid minnow
#

I find an aggressive Marvin play style is much more rewarding

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Play mixup heavy and don’t let your opponent have an opening

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Marvin is only at his best when you already are applying pressure

edgy ocean
placid minnow
#

And zoning characters thrive in an environment where you struggle to get in

edgy ocean
#

But characters like arya, batman is hard

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They can instantly go to u

placid minnow
#

Arya I’ve found a bit difficult but haven’t fought her much

brave remnant
#

I think we are saying the same thing, i just start from a position of , this is my land, I've claimed it, and I'm going to defend it until i feel like it's my turn to be agressive

placid minnow
#

Batman though you have a ton of options

edgy ocean
#

Libery

brave remnant
#

Cause I feel like Marvin excels at holding a position

edgy ocean
#

Always use his down attack

placid minnow
#

He does but you should always move your ground towards the opponent

edgy ocean
#

Not only in air but grounded too

agile ermine
#

To each their own. Being aggressive does work best for me, but there are times where I throw out projectiles for pressure, or just to bait the opponent to do something stupid.

brave remnant
#

I ebb and flow between the two

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While fishing for setups

placid minnow
brave remnant
#

But my default position is defend my space

edgy ocean
#

U dont need to hold

placid minnow
#

He’s very back and forth heavy

brave remnant
#

I should probably specify I mostly play Marvin in 2v2

edgy ocean
#

Marvin's key gameplay is pressure and stage control

placid minnow
edgy ocean
#

Ah

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I use him on 1s

placid minnow
#

he is two different characters in 1s and 2s imo

agile ermine
#

Nah I Def agree

brave remnant
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For the reason of not having much way to get out of pressure, 1v1 feels meh with him to me

placid minnow
#

Yeah that’s what stops him from being high tier

edgy ocean
#

I mean all preference

brave remnant
#

I play Jason or joker for that

placid minnow
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Jason does not do well under pressure

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Joker though

edgy ocean
placid minnow
#

Dudes a menace

edgy ocean
#

Jason gets demolished by marvin on 1s

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Marvin is too fast for him and small

placid minnow
#

Absolutely

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Might be his best matchup

brave remnant
#

Jason just needs to be patient and use grey hp wisely for most matchups

edgy ocean
brave remnant
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Ig is busted af

placid minnow
edgy ocean
placid minnow
#

Iron Giant is very weird

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I wouldn’t lump him in with all the heavies

edgy ocean
placid minnow
#

As in he’s not like Jason

placid minnow
brave remnant
#

Ig has dumb loops and stage control

placid minnow
#

You gotta remember you’re light

edgy ocean
brave remnant
#

Legit hard af to deal with a good ig

placid minnow
#

Dude touches you once you’re at top of stage in two hits

placid minnow
brave remnant
#

He can convert lethal so easy

edgy ocean
#

When a iron giant is gonna do that to me i just do lazer

placid minnow
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Or side aerials specials you

placid minnow
edgy ocean
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He is a double edge sword

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Im talking abt 1s ofc

placid minnow
#

And yes I’m talking 1s

brave remnant
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Once ig has kicked you off his stage it's real hard to get back on vs a good ig

placid minnow
#

If you uses his up special well it’s over

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Off stage

brave remnant
#

Even with dodges. Cause he covers so much and is so active

placid minnow
#

When you play against ig he owns the stage, as Marvin that is your worst nightmare

brave remnant
#

Ig is the stage

placid minnow
#

With Jason even if he gets advantage on you, you can instantly get it back with most of your moves

edgy ocean
#

I still lost to him when he like ate me

brave remnant
#

You playing shadows of the colossus now

placid minnow
edgy ocean
#

Tho ig is not a big deal to me

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Im really good at spacing marvin's move to the sweet spot

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Not rlky

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What am i saying

placid minnow
#

I think there’s a MASSIVE difference between a good IG and a bad one, not even including infinites

brave remnant
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I'm gonna main marivn/Jason in 2s and joker/Jason in 1s I think

agile ermine
#

IG is easy imo. Side special helps, last stand perk helps, but honestly with the cheesy infinites and the Zeo-to-deaths, MU for IG doesn't truly matter if the character is actually broken and can kill you in 2 seconds

edgy ocean
#

Maybe i just havent fought a good ig

placid minnow
#

A good IG will make your like a living hell

brave remnant
#

A mid ig is bad

edgy ocean
#

Thats so weird considering him in the beta

brave remnant
#

A good ig is a god

placid minnow
#

I don’t think it’s like a bad matchup for Marvin, it’s just definitely not his best

edgy ocean
#

Arya is living hell for me as a marvin

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She always 0 to death me

placid minnow
brave remnant
#

Arya can be real mean

edgy ocean
#

And that tp move really makes me jump

brave remnant
#

I play keep away with her and ww

edgy ocean
#

She controls the air

placid minnow
edgy ocean
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Very bad for marvin

brave remnant
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Cause......the dmg is real

placid minnow
#

You can not get in against a WW

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Even if she’s bad she’ll still put up a good fight

brave remnant
#

Literally can just 12dodge you to death

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It's silly

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But that's what the lazer is for

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Zap....get back biiiiiiiih

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I just want people to get mad at that and try to rush past it lol

placid minnow
#

Sometimes I just sit at the ledge and spam down normal as they recover

brave remnant
#

Yeah I said the wrong command......im....not sober 😆 🤪

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Rifts are a bit much huh?

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Not sure why it's so many difficulties

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Just put two, it takes long enough. Idk how much time they think people have lol

placid minnow
#

Marvin has his super reliable options but you can always throw in dumb stuff that just works

brave remnant
#

I still don't see how holding or tapping that are any diff

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I think it doesn't work right

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Supposed to be able to hold it and dmg yourself

edgy ocean
#

What? Thats a thing?

placid minnow
#

And aiming

brave remnant
#

But it doesn't last much longer and you don't always take dmg from it

placid minnow
#

Wait you mean down normal

brave remnant
#

The down norm yeah

placid minnow
#

Ah yeah I’m not too sure

brave remnant
#

It's legit like 2 to 4 frames longer

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And does 1 to 2 percent dmg

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sometimes

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Not everytime

placid minnow
#

Sometimes that matters but yeah it’s not a big diff

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But it does help with holding it till they’re in range

brave remnant
#

Go in lab, read move, then test it

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It doesn't hold like it's supposed to for me

placid minnow
#

It could definitely be glitched

brave remnant
#

Maybe that's my stick....idk

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I think it's the same for everyone though

#

You supposed to be able to like burn your hp to extend it

edgy ocean
#

Isnt that beta

placid minnow
#

I’m not sure honestly

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I didn’t play any Marvin in beta

edgy ocean
#

Idk i use dpad not joystick

brave remnant
#

But I can't make it work. Unless they didn't bother putting it in patchnotes or movelist that it changed

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I use an arcade stick

placid minnow
#

I went straight with stick

edgy ocean
#

Dpad is very good

placid minnow
#

I play 2ds with dpad but I just can’t with platform fighters

brave remnant
#

Hori hyabusa rap

placid minnow
#

Hori’s are pretty pricey right

brave remnant
#

In ps4 mode. It's an older one, I've had for a few years

placid minnow
#

Ah

brave remnant
#

Nit super expensive

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You can spend if you want lol

placid minnow
#

I’ll stick with my standard controllers for now lol

brave remnant
#

But they have good hardware and reasonable models

placid minnow
#

But I do wish I could use a GameCube controller on ps5

brave remnant
#

You just need adapters

queen swallow
#

GOOD MORNING MARTIANS

brave remnant
#

It's like an adapter and a switch

placid minnow
#

Interesting

brave remnant
#

To used GameCube controller on whatever you want.

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They also have newer versions with USB

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Same button layout

edgy ocean
brave remnant
#

Mechanisms might not feel the same on those

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I've not used them

placid minnow
queen swallow
#

How is everyone:)

edgy ocean
#

Good

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Just conquered venus

placid minnow
#

Great, just waiting for my internet to get a bit better

edgy ocean
#

And got an accident earlier while biking

queen swallow
#

ooh I saw people talking about up special

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Thats how I get most of my kills

placid minnow
edgy ocean
#

Wat

queen swallow
#

Jab jab nair leads into a chase situation with up special that kills

brave remnant
#

Trying to enjoy my view of venus....probably gonna have to destroy this ugly blue planet that keeps getting in the way

queen swallow
#

you just have to read di

real warren
#

Do people actually think this character is bad?

queen swallow
#

He kinda is bad in ones

#

hes solid in 2s

real warren
#

Or is it that barely anyone plays him

edgy ocean
#

Only people who doenst even use him

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He is very good when used right.

real warren
#

His perks are really good though?

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Like the up air one for example

edgy ocean
#

Thats an advantge tbh marvind are so so rare when they come across one they dont know what to do

queen swallow
#

Hes good but takes a lot of work when other characters can just up air you at 60 with a huge hitbox and you die

brave remnant
#

Potentially op in 2s....if your partner has usefull projectiles and you coordinate pressure and ff well

placid minnow
queen swallow
#

Yep Marvin IG is insanely strong

real warren
#

Can Marvin redirect teammate's projectiles?

brave remnant
#

All projectiles

fringe trout
#

Indeed

queen swallow
placid minnow
queen swallow
#

Marvin covers his teammates options really well

placid minnow
#

And they cover his well too

queen swallow
#

and thats what ig wants so he doesnt get bullied

brave remnant
#

Just press the button, why not press the button.....look at it sitting there.....begging to be pressed. Isn't it an adorable little button. Go on. Give us a press.

placid minnow
edgy ocean
#

Dang mvs the only game where 2v2s and 1v1s are equal, most of the time 2v2s gets abandoned

real warren
#

So to summarise, Marvin can be good because it's rare to see them in your average game. However when people learn how he works, he's quite mid?

placid minnow
queen swallow
#

below average even if they know the mu

real warren
placid minnow
real warren
placid minnow
#

His only issue is his disadvantage state

queen swallow
#

Most of my wins in solos Im forced to do 400+ damage

edgy ocean
#

Marvin is BALANCED

placid minnow
#

He’s very balanced compared to other characters

queen swallow
#

balanced in mvs isnt good since so many characters are busted

placid minnow
#

Well it’s not good for strength but good for fun

edgy ocean
#

For sure

real warren
#

The Marvin v Iron Giant mu feels so unfair for Iron Giant

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Probs the same with everyone else

queen swallow
#

Id say its even

placid minnow
queen swallow
#

Maybe even IG favor

placid minnow
#

WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER

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Thank god you see it

queen swallow
#

IG can even overwhelm marvin with projectiles

#

He has a lot of small projectiles which isnt ideal

placid minnow
#

For a character with as bad of a disadvantage state as Marvin IG can take insane advantage of that

queen swallow
#

Marvin already struggles to kill

#

and that too

real warren
#

Oh?

queen swallow
#

IG is also just insanely strong atm

placid minnow
#

I think it’s a 60/40 IG

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(Not including infinite)

real warren
placid minnow
#

When Marvin is applying pressure he goes crazy but the moment it flips Marvin is dead

placid minnow
heady plaza
#

Any tips for fighting banana guard?

edgy ocean
queen swallow
#

I think grounded side special shouldnt have a cooldown

edgy ocean
placid minnow
queen swallow
#

he has too many cooldowns

placid minnow
#

His other cooldowns are fine

queen swallow
#

it isnt that strong of an option anyways

#

high risk high reward

placid minnow
#

But side special you can’t use it at all when they’re on cooldown

real warren
placid minnow
queen swallow
#

Its just good for poking out approaches

placid minnow
#

I said earlier that IG has a very large gap between average players and good ones

#

I wanna know what he’s like against Steven but I’ve genuinely never seen that MU

queen swallow
#

yeah IG is the only tank that isnt braindead…

placid minnow
#

Jason is braindead and still is bad

queen swallow
#

yep

#

WW is braindead and top 3 though

placid minnow
#

I think he’s Marvin’s best MU

queen swallow
#

easily

placid minnow
#

You can actually bully a Jason as Marvin

queen swallow
#

I also believe its because Jason is the only tank without a metric fuckload of armor

placid minnow
#

Yeah he has to literally use a move to get it

#

For other moves

queen swallow
#

Like mist step is always stuffed

#

and I have no idea why people use the mist step behind perk

#

makes it so free to punish

placid minnow
#

Lmfao

#

His perks are certainly interesting

queen swallow
#

I swear his aerial up special hes lower than he started out to be too

real warren
#

Can Marvin's down air linger?

queen swallow
#

You cant hold it

#

anymore

#

but its pretty active

placid minnow
#

His down air is very good

#

It doesn’t really need to linger

queen swallow
#

dair and down strong are two of his best moves

placid minnow
#

His dair is great to start pressure

queen swallow
#

big scary hitboxes

real warren
queen swallow
#

no

#

thats down special

placid minnow
#

Forward lightning

queen swallow
#

down strong is his laser beam

#

he zaps himself

placid minnow
#

That’s what it looks like atleast

#

A little lightning bolt shoots out and he zaps himself

real warren
#

Ohhhh that

#

does like 9 damage?

placid minnow
#

Yeah it’s the same as down air just grounded and forwards

#

It does very high knockback

#

For Marvin atleast

queen swallow
#

Has a lot of endlag but it can kill

#

and can but used to bait dodges

#

its overall great

#

one of his best kill moves

#

if not his best

placid minnow
#

Its a very useful tool to finish off pressure

queen swallow
#

besides ufo

#

really strong in mix ups

placid minnow
#

It’s that or side aerial special and up special

queen swallow
#

even air side special doesnt kill that well

placid minnow
#

Side aerial special is key off stage

queen swallow
#

its a great move

placid minnow
#

And good to use after a up special if you time it right

real warren
#

what do you guys think of his jab?

placid minnow
#

Very strong

#

I use it to just shoot the projectile sometimes

queen swallow
#

It gets stuffed out a bit but its good

#

a little slow for a jab

placid minnow
#

They’ll be other side of the stage but you can use the bounce

real warren
#

I find the projectile pretty useful

queen swallow
#

but its big and his jab follow ups are really strong

#

for a ledge guard

#

when you get the opponent off stage

real warren
#

doesn't his jab projectile spike?

placid minnow
#

Jab into down normal can work sometimes

queen swallow
#

you can whiff jab jab jab then button and the projectile will spike

placid minnow
#

But it can also miss

queen swallow
placid minnow
#

If you knock them too high with the second jab it misses

queen swallow
#

but jab2 is really good follow up for combos

#

jab jab sair up special is true at 0

#

and gives ufo set up

placid minnow
#

Hmm I might try that

#

Idk if I have

edgy ocean
placid minnow
#

I usually just change my jab combos every time I do it based on where I am on the stage and their percent

edgy ocean
#

From a video

queen swallow
#

also if you hit a nair and you have a jump and they are kill percent you can chase with an up special to kill as I mentioned earlier

#

nair has a lot of hit stun

#

they should add an emote with k-9

placid minnow
#

Im gonna be honest im not a true Marvin fan, only into him for the gameplay but the personality is for sure a bonus

queen swallow
#

he such a goober

rose timber
#

marvin gotta have the worst dash attack in the game

real warren
#

what do you guys think are marvin's best perks

queen swallow
#

I like space invaders Thats Flammable Doc Collat Damage and 5% melee damage

queen swallow
sour basalt
#

combos are limited with DI issues

queen swallow
#

goes under some attacks ig

sour basalt
#

its mostly adapting to your opponent

edgy ocean
#

Tom's up attack makes me crazy

queen swallow
#

Tom is like Marvins worst mu

edgy ocean
#

Tom is easily a tier when used right

real warren
#

i hate fighting tom so much

#

I JUST RAN INTO ONE 😭

edgy ocean
#

They are the exact same species doing the same thing over n over

#

Up tilt

queen swallow
#

yeah t&j are strong

sour basalt
#

air walk jab combo is crazy for killing at low percents

queen swallow
#

i havent tried it

edgy ocean
#

I see that more n more people are starting to use marvin

queen swallow
#

but I want to

edgy ocean
#

Dang 102 marvin and 13 ricks?? Thats crazy my boi doesnt deserve it

real warren
#

ok thankfully i beat him 3-1 but god i didn't enjoy that

edgy ocean
#

He disconeccted on mine

#

Tom is lore accurate

#

Annoying as hell

real warren
#

multiversus moment

#

i hate how he can alter my projectiles in so many different ways

#

he can speed them up, whack them back, etc

edgy ocean
#

He has the best projectiles

real warren
#

yh

edgy ocean
#

He can even kill u with a pan

real warren
#

crazy

edgy ocean
#

Its odd how small marvin is but has a hard time on being comboed

real warren
#

ikr!

#

if i run into one more tom and jerry

#

JASON LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

yeeeeeeeee

heady plaza
#

Tom and Jerry are so annoying on the game of thrones map

sour basalt
#

god i hate when joker spams up air

heady plaza
#

His projectiles just keep bouncing off the walls

sour basalt
#

that stupid hitbox reaches around his entire body

edgy ocean
#

Joker's hitbox is huge

#

Up tilt and up stuff

naive void
#

Can anyone give me joker perks

sour basalt
edgy ocean
#

That clip was mad looney tune vibe

sour basalt
#

picking up marvin was the best decision of my life

queen swallow
#

Im saying

edgy ocean
#

Same

#

U cant be mad at him

#

He is such a vibe

brave pendant
edgy ocean
#

Rick and marvin are my mains rn

placid minnow
#

I hit a absolutely diabolical rocket bubble switch

queen swallow
#

rocket bubble is so nice

placid minnow
#

Possible the most satisfying part of Marvin’s kit

queen swallow
#

might of found some crazy kill confirm

placid minnow
#

Ooh do share

queen swallow
#

im trying to make it consistent

#

but jab jab nair jump button up special seems to be true

placid minnow
#

Hm interesting

queen swallow
#

wait you dont even need button

#

and its true

#

just tight

#

kills shaggy at 90

#

off jab

normal peak
#

any tips on playing on the GoT map as Marvin, his only kill moves seem to be vertical

queen swallow
#

side special in the air

#

try to control the stage since marvins ledge guarding is really good

#

use your jab3 combo

placid minnow
#

Just got an IG as Marvin let’s test the Mu

#

Idk what just happened I think I spaced out

last ridge
#

marvin just possessed you

placid minnow
#

Ig is so strange to fight as Marvin

autumn patrol
#

Hey Do Y’all Know Any Counterplay For Wonder Woman When It Comes To Marvin? It Seems Like A Bit Of A Rough Matchup.

molten kettle
wary marsh
#

marvin the mogger

sour basalt
#

im a martiaaaan

#

i have a laserrrr

#

and its pointed at your planet

placid minnow
#

I honestly haven’t figured out the best play to beat her, I just use my normal stuff and hope I play better

queen swallow
#

against ww abuse down strong

#

its a really strong armor break

autumn patrol
#

Especially With The Armor Break Skill Right?

wary marsh
#

Fellas should I buy joker or Marvin

#

Sell me on him

#

Please

wraith pelican
#

I think joker

#

Idk because I have Never seen a Marvin ever

molten kettle
#

marvin cant kill and cant breathe near top tiers

#

buy marvin

wary marsh
#

Joker seems like boring default bruiser brawler ngl

grand coral
#

Wrecked an armor spammer w this

outer tide
#

Why are some Marvin combos I should know about

leaden gale
queen swallow
queen swallow
outer tide
#

So during the 2nd jab I need to jump and do a side air attack ?

wary marsh
queen swallow
#

well joker is top tier

#

marvin is good in 2s

#

and not good in 1s

cursive bridge
#

I'm starting to play Marvin, does anyone have any tips and good team builds

outer tide
#

And why can’t we even post images

wary marsh
#

He just seems boring

#

Fun matters more to me than playing a top tier

queen swallow
#

then get Marvin

#

Yeah all the top tiers are just characters who are easy at the moment

#

WW Joker Harley Bugs

cursive bridge
#

Is Marvin Bugs a good team

wary marsh
#

i can spam bugs anyway idrc

queen swallow
#

But Bugs can box so its not bad and Bugs is just good

cursive bridge
#

So Marvin Lebron could be good?

eager onyx
#

atleast we have the best spike in the game

frozen mountain
#

marvin bron is disgustingly fun, every other game desyncs though

cursive bridge
eager onyx
#

moat spikes trade eith most up bs

#

like bugs