Jake The Dog

[crude reef]

i don’t understand

and literally 90% of my rank games are against gold players too

after they made the change a couple days ago

[topaz edge]

Everyone is winning 40 points after winning against a low rank so everyone is master

Only some people from gm are really scary

[crude reef]

literally like 5 diff jake’s jumped into masters instantly

but i’m out here only gaining 6-7 rp every game

[shy epoch]

I’m plat and I just played with my homie that’s gold. We got matched up against a bugs and Tom combo that are literally number 1 and 2 in the world for 2s. Feels like there’s no restrictions sometimes I swear

Only lost 1 rp, but a lot of sanity

[brittle sphinx]

thats what im saying

i was literally #7 jake before the rp patch i stop playing for 2 days and somehow the amount of master jake players doubled

is there a decay on master 5?

[crude reef]

don’t even know but it really ain’t fair for me

[brittle sphinx]

ill be honest i have no clue how ur only gaining 7

[crude reef]

it seems like it’s only happening to me

i’m constantly fighting golds

for some reason

[brittle sphinx]

i think your mmr might have been messed up

[crude reef]

it has to be

but even when i’m fighting someone in the same rank

it’s still 6 rp

[brittle sphinx]

honestly ive found that when deranking it resets my mmr to a certain threshhold

you might need to rank up or derank

that would prob fix whatever is going on

[crude reef]

i ranked up twice

i’m in diamond 1 now

same problem

[brittle sphinx]

like divisons

from silver to gold

[crude reef]

oh

[brittle sphinx]

gold plat

honestly since ur fighting golds ik its a bit of a grind but just get to masters

[crude reef]

yeah but it’s kinda annoying

it feels wrong too

[brittle sphinx]

hopefully it would be fixed by then

[crude reef]

feels like i’m smurfing

plus the random input lag i always get everytime i play ranked

it’s like they don’t want me to play ranked at all

[brittle sphinx]

yeah this game has so many flaws

get your rank to master skin and call it a day lowkey

[glad dagger]

gotta hope this next patch does something

[woven kite]

Its bhands new video

[woven kite]

Do yall run 5% or stretchy buns on jake

[drifting swan]

stretchy always

[grim burrow]

What sub perks do y'all usually run

[serene lion]

Snowball, +1 dmg terrain bounce, Pugilist

[grim burrow]

I never understood terrain bounce is 1 additional damage even worth running that perk?

[topaz edge]

It was good before but not anymore since auto tech exists, it's better to use speed force or last stand if u don't use bite that often or you want to keep the enemy with weakened all the time

[serene lion]

Yea I like it since with sair they usually bounce of the ground n I use sair a lott it also works nicely on other moves too but last stand and speed increase are also good, depends on ur play style

[crude reef]

just found out that the more i play ranked games

the more input lag i will be getting for no reason

???

[crude reef]

#clips message

finally did it

[bleak kettle]

Congrats soldier

[brittle sphinx]

is there rank decay on all tiers of master now?

[distant smelt]

i actually usually go with stay limber (the house perk) personally

jake house move really catches people off guard when you use it right

• projectile characters have a really hard time adapting to it and you can be way more oppressive with it when you're able to bounce into most anything they throw at you

it might fall off at high level play though, i haven't experienced much past platinum yet

[thick timber]

u real

[woven kite]

Thats my go to for tnj matchups

[bleak kettle]

I gotta try the house perk

[crude reef]

i noticed if the opponent is on burnout

you can do jab1 to jab2 into grounded neutral

i did it like 3 times and it worked all the time

not 100% sure if it’s true

[muted lance]

They couldn't fix Jake so they decided to give his stretchy powers to Nubia

[thorn zenith]

What they need to do to fix Jake is buff his ko potential

That’s it really

He’d be a solid character off that alone

[crude reef]

gotta revert back his up air knockback and change the angle of his sair

and make him jump with bite again

[glad dagger]

let's see what they do this patch

[covert parcel]

nothing probably

[crude reef]

probably gonna buff his trash moves that won’t really make a difference or nerf him even more

[brittle sphinx]

ngl jake is fine where he is

not completely

he needs some tweaks

but for the most part

the reason he cant compete is because the top tiers in this game are wayyyyy too overpowered

literally insane

its not possible to create a game where every character is good but somehow the power disparity in this game is beyond garbage that its either they nerff the top tiers properly or buff jake

[leaden axle]

i agree tbh. dont want him bufffed too hard. the top tiers need to get nerfed and more punishable on some of their moves.

[brittle sphinx]

jake would literally be fine as a B tier character as he is rn if it wasnt for how jarring the top tier characters are

but rn hes a D character cuz of how pfg handles this game

[crude reef]

you both ain’t wrong

a very good jake can literally beat top tiers

i say the only problem with him is his damage and slow moves

and going against others who has fast and better moves compared to him

[muted lance]

if hes not fun to play, why bother

[crude reef]

and not having enough combos i gotta add

[crude reef]

he is fun to play

whole reason why i main him

he’s just lacking some kill potential and that’s kinda it

[muted lance]

wish i could see that point of view

😔

he just doesnt have that magic to me anymore

[crude reef]

use to be a bugs and morty main back in beta

then tried jake a while back

and just mained him ever since

[leaden axle]

hes fun i just find it kinda exhausting to play him because you have to work so much harder to win lol.

[brittle sphinx]

jake is fun but he needs better kill power and the top tiers need to be nerfed

and make skateboard better

thats all i want

[leaden axle]

skateboard my god that move is so ass lol

[brittle sphinx]

his down special is not the best either (besides when ur facing projectile characters) but atleast its sometimes viable

[crude reef]

need his old skateboard back

[leaden axle]

he has a lot of very bad moves

[crude reef]

hate hopping up after a hit but then won’t be able to hit them again

[crude reef]

beta downspecial use to be way faster too

gotta add that back

[bleak kettle]

They nerfed the air momentum going back so we have to get them in a sweet spot which is near the front of the board to get another bounce

Plus with Auto tech being in the game Skateboard is virtually kinda useless

[covert parcel]

does he even have one true one lol

[crude reef]

rarely

even jab1 to jab2 into down attack isn’t true against light weights 5% of the time

even the jab itself isn’t true 😭

literally got so much people dodging after my first jab

[thorn zenith]

Y’all ever since I stopped playing mvs I got a girls #, I’ve been gaining more friends, and I’m getting better at school

[crude reef]

W

[thorn zenith]

Idk y’all maybe it’s time to put Jake on hold for now

[crude reef]

i got some team combo clips if yall wanna see em

#clips message

[woven kite]

Skateboard not triggering tech at all would be a huge buff

[distant smelt]

these are siiick, 2v2 jake is so fun when you get in sync

i've been doing ranked lately with jake + a jason partner and it's so fun to use the bite to launch opponents riiight into his charged attacks

[glad dagger]

bite and stretch are definitely good moves in doubles

[thorn zenith]

Not a lot of people have been using horse armor

Where you can charge in with your teammate on top and you both get armor

There’s no cooldown, no whiff, it’s purely a free hit

[drifting swan]

And sometimes when they do they glitch and stick to me 🤦‍♂️

[woven kite]

L2 to ride?

[thorn zenith]

I think

Idk

[woven kite]

I JUST HIT MASTERS ON JAKE IN 1S RAHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[bleak kettle]

[glad dagger]

tbf its not something you can easily get

[wet flicker]

How frustrating was that?

[muted lance]

you can do that?

i didnt know jake could work as a platform

[wet flicker]

What are your go to main spam moves or do you box with jake(never see anyone do this)?

[covert parcel]

jake’s not really a spam character

if you spam you’ll just get predicted/ parried

[wet flicker]

I dont play 1s so im not so concerned about that.

[covert parcel]

then just spam sair and you’re good

[bleak kettle]

Playing jake is just torturing yourself atp lol

[crude reef]

nah only if it’s ranked really

that’s real torture

other than that he’s just fun

if you play pubs

and if you don’t play on ps4 with input lag and constant frame drop 😭🙏

sad to still be a old gen player

[bleak kettle]

I play on pc though yea I only got him into gold.

Being thrown grandmaster and master players while I'm in gold 5 @crude reef

Being fed to the wolves and sh#t

[brittle sphinx]

lowkey dont buff jake

plz dont buff him

i beg

of u

do not buff him

too hard

only buff like

skateboard

and ill be happy

and change bite to become a cooldown move but gets the ability to jump and holds for longer

just like beta

PLZ

[leaden axle]

yes'

[glad dagger]

fr they could've just given bite a cooldown all this time

[woven kite]

I wanted to delete myself from the world

[woven kite]

Nair sair dair bite horsey up air and stretch

[short saddle]

I mean yeah sometimes but it ain’t that common

[woven kite]

Are you on asia btw? I think I played you while you were on a different character

[serene lion]

Are you bipolar?

[short saddle]

Nah I’m on North American servers

[wet flicker]

Leave him alone

[serene lion]

Who r u lol he can speak for himself

[wet flicker]

weirdo throwing a "who r u" out.

[serene lion]

I mean I asked someone a question and u spawn in out of nowhere

[grim burrow]

He needs less end lag, and more kill power and fix the skateboard or just change it

I think they should drop the first up air and just make the second one his only up air

[wet flicker]

so the first thing you result to is the cringe "who are you." got it

[serene lion]

Yeah because I wasn’t talking to you… so who are you? why are u involving urself lmao

[wet flicker]

bruh you are so cringe right now. if you wanted a private conversation then you would be in DMs. lol this weirdo

[serene lion]

Bru I asked someone a question and u said leave them alone like wtf it’s not like I’m harassing him just hop off lmaoo

[wet flicker]

lol but you are the one that is mad about it. like chill guy, dont be so bothered about some dude responding to you

[serene lion]

Yeah bro I’m the mad one when ur calling me countless names

[wet flicker]

your own fault for being so cringe lol. if my words hurt you then consider not talking to me 😉

[strange cedar]

As a Jake main, I can confirm when I order food at McDonald's I ask the cashier "What can I get for you today?"

[woven kite]

Damn im tripping then

Would be cool if they made bite a cooldown move and gave him a new move when bite is on cooldown

[serene lion]

The leave him alone was cringe. Let bro speak for himself idk y ur trying to be protective I asked a genuine question

[muted lance]

Thing is you could give Jake literally anything as a replacement because Jake in canon could probably use his uhhh Star Child powers

[alpine hatch]

Increased KO power confirmed

[brittle sphinx]

i want jake to be good but hes lowkey not even that bad rn. hes only bad because the high tiers are way too good

jake needs minimal adjustments

that being to skateboard and increase in kill power

its not jakes fault that he cant deal with agent smiths 1 frame jab

its not jakes problem

its just the other characters are way too toxic

make jake too good and he will be an unstoppable beast just like beta

and mirror matches against jake are not fun at all

[grim burrow]

Honestly he spittin

Although Jake needs more then one combo route too

[woven kite]

Yeah some tweaks to certain moves here and there

[woven kite]

Im tired of jab jab dlight dodge jab jab dlight

[brittle sphinx]

fixing skateboard = new combos

beta jake had so much combo potential just cuz of skateboard alone

[woven kite]

What do you think about skateboard not triggering tech at all?

[woven kite]

Revert nair too

[brittle sphinx]

i think it should trigger tech ONLY at the final hit

[grim burrow]

They need to remove auto tech in general and let people tech themselves

[brittle sphinx]

that way u can get 1 land 2 land then branch of in to a diff move

without dealing 40 damage

[woven kite]

Yeah that works so you can cancel from 2nd bit and branch into combos

[woven kite]

Yeahh

[woven kite]

Now that you mention its a good tradeoff too since 3rd hit is what does the burn debuff too

[brittle sphinx]

yeah

3rd hit is what deals most of the damage

if they fix skateboard maybe then ill use a diff perk lol

specifically the one that does extra damage on every wall collat

[serene lion]

Increase kill power on which moves

[woven kite]

Neutral light for sure

[brittle sphinx]

neutral light is lowkey pathetic

[woven kite]

Yeah that move has like no utility

I only use very rarely as a grounded dodge in read at high %

[grim burrow]

Is that his ground mace

[woven kite]

Yes

[grim burrow]

Yeah only time I get it is on a dodge read

[serene lion]

Fr

[serene lion]

I agree with everything except this, he needs more than minimal changes he needs more dmg+ knockback on a lot of his moves + combos

He’s not a threat at all unless cheese

[brittle sphinx]

allowing skateboard to be used in combos will increase his dmg rackups

he used to have like a 40 damage combo in beta and thats all cuz of skateboard

at the end of the day hes supposed to be a bruiser hes not supposed to have the most advanced levels of combo potential or at the same time have none

all i want is a balance

its fine having a character be in B tier but he has to be viable

[grim burrow]

I agree if he's too good other people will play him

And I don't want that

[brittle sphinx]

dude mirror matches in beta

were so damn cringe

especially with jake

its like

side special fest

[grim burrow]

It was kinda like its own little mini game in a way

[brittle sphinx]

yeah

jake should not be a high a tier character

with the way hes designed

he can NOT

be a high tier

unless u want him to break the game

jake used to get insane amounts of nerfs in beta but that did absolutely nothing

[woven kite]

If he is he will make the game unplayable

[glad dagger]

honestly i find mirror matches unfun in general

[woven kite]

Applies to every game like this for me atleast

[glad dagger]

fr

like unless its when a new character is out and its with a friend its not fun

[crude reef]

you so right for that

mirror matches are so lame

literally gets so competitive trying to see who’s the better user of the character

[covert parcel]

everything that they nerfed this season

[thorn zenith]

Moment of truth Jake mains

Let us gather together and hope for a Jake renaissance

[bitter anvil]

No way that’s all he gets lmao

[brittle sphinx]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

lol

gg

[fallen narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-the-dog-crying-sleeping-tired-sleepy-gif-26905897

[brittle sphinx]

ummm

hmm

hmmmm

mhmhmm

mmmmm

mmmmmmmmmmmm

hmmmmmmm

[fallen narwhal]

[brittle sphinx]

yeeeeee

no words

[thorn zenith]

We’re globbin cooked

Are YOU KIDDING ME

THATS IT

AFTER MULTIPLE UPDATES SAYING HE’LL BE FIXED WE GET THIS???????????????

[bleak kettle]

Yup

[wet flicker]

ayo where are the patch notes?

[thorn zenith]

ok look look maybe he’s better

Maybe he’s got some shadow buff

That isn’t listed

[bleak kettle]

#patch-notes message

Here ya go

Just go look for yourself

[wet flicker]

thank you

[thorn zenith]

Like sure one change could make him goated right

Right

Jake’s good right

Look at me in my eyes

He’s good right

[bleak kettle]

👀

[bitter anvil]

2 frames shaved off of down attack

[bleak kettle]

Bro I'm gonna be honest

This patch is redonculously buns

[thorn zenith]

For Jake maybe

Maybe he’s better

[bleak kettle]

In general

[thorn zenith]

PLEASE TELL ME HES GOOD

[bitter anvil]

I scrolled down to Jake so fast and he got like 1 buff

[thorn zenith]

PLEASE SAY JAKES GOOD

[bitter anvil]

He’s paying for his beta sins

He will never be good again sorry

[thorn zenith]

PLEASE DONT TELL ME THEY GLOSSED OVER JAKE TO ADD THE ONE CHARACTER NO ONE ASKED FOR BUT LOOKS COOL

[bleak kettle]

They said they nerf the top tiers and just completely ignored the others except Batman

Like OK ya got batman but what about the others

[bitter anvil]

Jake probably got nerfed harder overall than WW and that’s kind of crazy

[thorn zenith]

Like there’s no way Jake has to be good

Cmon guys he’s good right

I’m not crazy

[bitter anvil]

The devs clearly think he is lmao

[bleak kettle]

I wanna know who decides Jake needed this?

Bro really lost his sauce

[glad dagger]

i think if dodge jab is dead he'll at least be able to stand a better chance

[thorn zenith]

I need you to check

Are. We. Cooked.

[brittle sphinx]

I CANT WITH THIS GAME

oh beta jake

why

why has it come to this

i miss you sweet 18 damage skateboard

i miss the way you would beautifully pull off a 50 damage combo by using skateboard in to neutral and if your feeling extra rizzy pull off a beautiful bite

oh sweet sweet apple pie jake

i miss the way you would terrorize the game

i miss the way you had everyone begging for nerfs

your will was too strong however

no matter how many nerfs you would get

your soul was too strong

ohhh sweet sweet jake

im going to punch a hole in my wall if you do not recieve an actuall buff

I will put a hole in my monitor

i will put a hole everywhere

[bleak kettle]

I'm pretty optimistic this patch

Just gotta wait and see tomorrow tbh

[brittle sphinx]

please

FIX SKATEBOARD

THATS ALL I WANT

JUST MAKE SKATEBOARD AN ACTUAL MOVE

I PROMISE U JAKE DOES NOT HAVE A DOWN AIR

[glad dagger]

skateboard is an actual move if you're good at reading techs

[bleak kettle]

Or good at IAD Skateboard lol

They never expect it

[bleak kettle]

With the new game changes MVS might slow down for Jake favor

Game was just moving a bit to fast for his tools. I mean atleast they acknowledge his invicibilty on uptilt on the ground

[brittle sphinx]

yeah i enjoy using it for 3 hits and being unable to follow with anything thats totally cool

i also love how you cant use it to edge guard at all

because you can hit em with 1 land and they can just dodge out of it

super cool

[bleak kettle]

You could to the first 2 hits into Up special and then nair?

[thorn zenith]

Nope

Used to

In beta

[brittle sphinx]

i promise you, you can NOT do that

the stars have to align

for you to be able to pull that off

in an actual match

without them being able to dodge out of it

[thorn zenith]

The only true combo you got consistently is nair into jab into down smash

“I 100% agree, like some characters (cough Jake) just can’t hold their own in ones. We want buffs for him to do specifically that, yet the general census says he doesn’t need buffs because he is good in 2’s because of his range. The patch notes aren’t helping either because they only gave Jake ONE BUFF. No combo potential, no reason to why it was just one buff, no listening to feedback, it just sucks man.”

• My comment from Ortega’s video

[bleak kettle]

I just did it training mode

You can get up special after 2 skateboard bounces but you won't get the follow up

[thorn zenith]

yea, on a bot that doesn’t do DI

[bleak kettle]

True

Though I will try to get it in a match tomorrow

I just been using Jake as a read character tbh.

Just putting my opponent in situations

[crude reef]

are you kidding

just 1 damage buff

wtf bruh

and buffed the hell out of joker wtf

didn’t even nerf shaggy too

just whiff nerfs that don’t change anything

typical

[covert parcel]

it shouldn’t even be techable in the first place

[glad dagger]

it was better when it wasn't yes

[covert parcel]

GUUS

[glad dagger]

but you have to make do

[covert parcel]

THESE NEW JAKE BUFFS ARE HUGE!

7 WHOLE DAMAGE!

[brittle sphinx]

you shouldnt have to make do with incompetency and favortism in a platform fighter

[glad dagger]

coming from someone who has gotten major damage off of reading techs every time its really not that bad

you can't just be in the mindset of "wah this move doesn't confirm anymore i won't use it"

[covert parcel]

but it’s literally jake

he has nothing

[crude reef]

best jake buff in ages

[glad dagger]

being a worse character than most doesn't mean he's got nothing

he has things he just has to work harder for it
if everyone's gonna be so doomer about jake why play him

[brittle sphinx]

just because a character isnt completely unusable doesnt mean it should be fine having him work 10x harder than any other character

[glad dagger]

i didn't say it was fine

[brittle sphinx]

your literally advocating for a move that shouldnt be in a state where it is rn

it doesnt have to kill confirm

[glad dagger]

i literally agreed dair before forced tech was better

i would like them to do something about it but what can you do if they don't seem to know how to balance him

[brittle sphinx]

i understand having to make do with an adjustments complaining will not change anything but eventually if it has enough complaints they will adjust it

if everyone "makes do" without being vocal they will incompetently assume the move is fine

[woven kite]

Jake is s tier now 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

+1 damage

[brittle sphinx]

atp ill take 0.5 increase in damage

atleast they didnt nerff bite again lol

and thankfully they didnt nerf nair 1 in to nair 2

thats like his bread n butter currently

[woven kite]

Kinda boring just doing that over and over again

I was hoping for some better changes ngl

[brittle sphinx]

yeah it is thats why u gotta try to mix it up

there isnt much room for mixing up but

[woven kite]

This the problem

[brittle sphinx]

just randomly predicting they will dodge towards you so u up special is something

[woven kite]

Its just kinda lame rn

[brittle sphinx]

honestly if it wasnt for his up special i wouldnt be playing him

[woven kite]

It is what it is i guess

[brittle sphinx]

its what makes him fun

for me

[woven kite]

I'll reach masters in 2s or i'll try to atleast

[brittle sphinx]

just trying to predict the enemy with up special is super fun

yeah i think they nerfed the rp gain

[woven kite]

Up special is my favorite move alomg with bite

[brittle sphinx]

they made it super inflated and now im gaining less n less

[woven kite]

I dont mind that really

[brittle sphinx]

yeah same

it was too much

[woven kite]

Is it super bad?

[brittle sphinx]

40 rp per win was diabolical

nah its fine

good position where it at

sometimes id lose 19

then gain 13

then gain 24

its like

tolerable

[woven kite]

That doesnt seem too bad

[brittle sphinx]

yeee

[glad dagger]

i mean being vocal hasn't made them change the move for how many patches, they already seem to think the move is fine this way

look at ww being untouched until now and she only got one (1) nerf this patch

despite all her complaints for how long

with enough complaints maybe it'll happen eventually but don't count on it

[woven kite]

These devs are trolling

I might just become a casual atp

No ig changes too

[glad dagger]

his nair still gonna hit from a mile away

unless they actually made it accurate to the visual

[woven kite]

Love how the only supe change was a buff too

[brittle sphinx]

fair

still better to try

even if there is a 1 percent chance

[glad dagger]

true

i still think this dev team is pretty good when it comes to feedback but man the decisions they make can be so weird

[woven kite]

Yeah

They dont seem like they know what they're doing

[brittle sphinx]

i just wonder if they ever playtest characters FULLY

more than 10 minutes

[glad dagger]

ppg on release makes me doubt they do

would be cool if with that playtest thing they let players test new characters before they're released in their season

[woven kite]

Was dash attack dash attack dash attack a true 0td?

I heard sum like that

[brittle sphinx]

there a was a 0td using dash attack

not sure how it went

but it def existed

lol

0td beetlejuice was found within the first few hours

[woven kite]

They playtest for 30 seconds

[brittle sphinx]

i guess their idea is 0tds will always be found by players more capable then themselves so why waste time playtesting when players could just find it and they would patch it

[glad dagger]

ok so the combo was rising dash attack dodge up nair blossom frost breath

[woven kite]

So 3 moves?

[glad dagger]

yes

[woven kite]

How do they not discover that

[glad dagger]

and i'm sure there were ways you could alter the combo

[woven kite]

Our games dev team

[glad dagger]

at least they were kinda quick to nerf it in a hotfix

[topaz edge]

Why do we have a channel for a character that isn't in the game?

I still can't believe we are getting marceline first than Jake the dog, I really wish he was in this game

[glad dagger]

wait that means we got banana guard before jake??

[topaz edge]

Sadly, I don't know why we got Finn and Banana guard like, they forgot to put Jake in the game

[muted lance]

Flatlining irl

[covert parcel]

some of these matchups are just

like what do i do

[muted lance]

Hard mode

[covert parcel]

like the devs are just trolling atp

like the one damage buff

[covert parcel]

has anyone tried jake with air walker does he do anything worth using it

[woven kite]

Not really

air walker charged uptilt near the ceiling can sometimes work but its too slow to be worth using

[drifting swan]

They wanna give Harley, rick , joker and ppg new/better combos but keep Jake at 0 combos giving only a 1 dmg buff😭😭😭it’s like they’re trying to kill their game

[glad dagger]

luckily my new main is gonna be in s4 so i won't feel like playing jake anymore

[covert parcel]

she gonna be mine too at this point

[glad dagger]

let's all just play marceline

[leaden axle]

This is sad bros. Wtf.

Any hope for undocumented shadow buffs? Lmfao

[grim burrow]

Ajax did mention some characters got a speed boost that they forgot to mention maybe Jake is one of them?

[crude reef]

but still a speed boost ain’t that helpful

[leaden axle]

Im pretty sure they said increased in kill power for jake on the show. Ajax himself said it. Am i crazy?

[leaden axle]

47:06 on the in to the vers video “Jakes K.O. power, which has come up a little bit” = +1 dmg , no knock back increase what a joke lol

[crude reef]

would like to know which move it is tho

probably gonna say jab 3 or grounded down attack

[bleak kettle]

2nd hit of up air

[crude reef]

oh i know about the 1+ damage for that

i meant for the ko power

[bleak kettle]

Probably 3rd hit of jab

Would make sense

[crude reef]

no one uses that weak ahh move 😭🙏

unless you’re a new jake player

[bleak kettle]

I mean with new Jab changes and hurt and hitboxes being changed as well

This could be a stumble in the right direction

Though again maybe I'm being to optimistic @crude reef

[short saddle]

So, any substantial buffs in this patch?

Or just a bunch of universal stuff that’ll ultimately just hurt Jake, like the stupid overall speed buff

[alpine hatch]

Air Up 2 does 1 more damage

That’s legit all he got 😭

[short saddle]

His frame trap game gets more mixes ups, especially with air walker jab and down tilt after a ground bounce and gets 60/40 kill set ups after up air ( this one is especially useful cause at high percents up air 2 does not connect 😉 )

^ But you gotta break your fingers for that

[short saddle]

Are you trolling me??

[alpine hatch]

I wish i was dude

#patch-notes message

[alpine hatch]

You have to scroll down a bit

[short saddle]

… wow, well, we’ll see how the intangibility buff will service, if it makes up tilt more useful that is actually a big buff

And also more base damage equates to a bit more base knock back, so possibly we can kill earlier from this

Seems like the new Jake meta will be around Juggling

[bleak kettle]

That's all I've been doing tbh

Baiting with semi charged sair and then switching up to using Nair into up air for more juggle opportunities

Iad Nair is really strong too

[short saddle]

Nair into up air seems like the most optimal juggle set up for Jake currently, it leads into up special perfectly on connecting and up air covers 3 di options

[short saddle]

This seems like a risky set up to go for against aggressive enemies, a simple dodge in beats it at mid range

Lots of lag on that sair, around 15 frames of vulnerability not including the start of frames of any move thrown after

[bleak kettle]

Yea if I'm fighting strong Bruisers I mosty stay grounded. Just dash dance around. If I wanna approach a good IAD Nair will do the trick

Since the second hit covers Jake front and back side

Neutral Attack at ledge is pretty solid at ledge

If I notice my opponent dodging through me at ledge I'll just neutral attack since Jake hops and the mace swing start right before he hops and catches opponents behind him

I got Jake to gold @short saddle so I'm doing something right lol

Or just getting lucky

[hallow wyvern]

Jake

Ground Up Attack

• Fixed an issue where Jake’s hand was not properly becoming invulnerable above 50% charge
  Air Up Attack 2

• Damage increased to 7 from 6

[leaden axle]

Its just crazy that other characters actually get some changes but we get: +1 dmg on a second part of a move that doesn’t even connect with itself half the times. And everyone knows hes legit bottom one. I feel like reverting the nerfs of his kill power they did last patch would have been perfect.

[thick timber]

We got a 1 damage buff🔥🔥🔥

[bleak kettle]

I know right

Jake high tier boys!

Bacon pancakes for everyone

[covert parcel]

do yall understand how huge this is

[short saddle]

Once you get to masters, it’s all luck

[covert parcel]

we didn’t even get a galaxy skin 😔

[crude reef]

no extra rp rip

i said rp

i mean exp

[glad dagger]

man not a single adventure time character got one

i feel like everyone could get a galaxy skin if they're just gonna copy paste the same palette and visuals

[weary verge]

Genuinely lol

Every character should get every one of those simple event recolor type skins

No reason not to

[brittle sphinx]

bruh

jake would literally have had the cleanest galaxy skin

hes literally all skin with no clothes

wouldnt have been that hard to add either

welp sucks to suck

this aint jakes season

[brittle sphinx]

just lost 19 rp to a stupid arya lol

i geniunely dont know what i am supposed to do against this character

she literally counters him in every way shope and form

[radiant forge]

this aint jakes year*

[short saddle]

That’s quite false, he has an easier time fighting Arya compared to other top tiers through my experience and theory crafting. Mace swing works well on neutral to stuff out aryas down tilt and her edge guarding isn’t as oppressive. In general her whiff lag and lack of approach tools, makes this a doable match up

Definitely still feels like trash cause the game is just not designed properly, and her kill rate per interaction is way better than jakes but it’s doable if your stay 90% consistent through out the whole round

[agile fractal]

This aint jake*

[waxen bobcat]

am i tripping or does the invulnerability after 50% not work on both moves

[crude reef]

it still doesn’t work?

[clear jackal]

Can someone explain to me everything that happened to jake in the last like 2 months

[thorn zenith]

#announcements message it’s over yall pack it up we’re cooked

[brittle sphinx]

insane

[glad dagger]

i have never once used last stand on jake lol

or anyone

[woven kite]

Im a speed force gamer ngl

[brittle sphinx]

missing out

everything else is much worse imo

[glad dagger]

i can kill without it

[brittle sphinx]

its game changing once u start using it

[glad dagger]

probably not after they're nerfing it

[brittle sphinx]

prob

i enjoyed it while it lasted

speed force isnt a significant enough of a boost

and the wall hit perk is not as good as it was in beta

[glad dagger]

i just wish they'd do more interesting signature perks

most people run the same one cause there's no point in using the others

[brittle sphinx]

they are too scared to implement new changes

i was expecting for fighters after beta

to be getting another sig perk

they said they wanted the perk system for each player to be different and even though their using the same character they were would be differences

cant find the tweet

cuz its like

months old

[glad dagger]

well its not all that different for everyone lol

i kinda wish it was only signature perks

[brittle sphinx]

thats what im saying

most people be playing the character the same exact way

so much for allowing room for creativity

[glad dagger]

some perk combos give characters such broken bs

[brittle sphinx]

it gave ppg a 0td

clearly sig perks are game changing and could be used as another form of balancing characters

not completely

but a part of it

honestly

jakes neutral in to neutral special change

could of very well been implemented as a signature perk

but i guess they decided to go with that whole change because of their attempts to make bite less used

[glad dagger]

i think it would be cool to have a sig perk that changes what weapon he shapeshifts his arm into for certain moves

or if each down b transformation had different properties

[brittle sphinx]

that would be cool

a signature perk where u could change what form u go in to and being able to choose which of the 4 vehicles to be with different effects

that would be sick

[glad dagger]

yeah but its too creative of an idea ig

[muted lance]

I have no idea why you would use any of the other ones. They are pretty situational. Isn't there one that idiotically buffs enemies while making your taunts flashier

[brittle sphinx]

they thought they cooked with that one

thought there was gonna be a wave of youtube videos dedicated to the troll

[crude reef]

they gotta nerf black adam fly

why can he just keep constantly flying with no cooldown

[brittle sphinx]

because black adam is a gift to us from the pfg

he is a cute little receding hairline gift

and his chin is even worse

[crude reef]

i swear he never puts his chin down in this game

[bleak kettle]

That's that god complex lol

[crude reef]

just beat the number 1 nubia in ranked 2v2

they didn’t even play like a master player

literally just kept spamming

fraud masters

[bleak kettle]

It be like that tbh lol

[wet flicker]

Just tried jake in this update and I thought they fixed his punch situation?! how am I still getting hurt on full charge?!

[glad dagger]

i think that only applies to his up tilt, not sure though

ugly sweater jake and batman 85th jake skins are still messed up

[muted lance]

What do you mean by messed up

[glad dagger]

look at the teeth

[muted lance]

Ok I know about the latter one

But what about the original

[glad dagger]

wdym original

[woven kite]

Jake the dog with a batman mask is a human too apparently

Keep cooking pfg

[midnight fog]

just hit grandmasta with my boi Jake. I have no friends to tell this to who care so thanks for listening

[woven kite]

Woah thats pretty cool

In 2s im guessing?

[midnight fog]

nah solo

how do you play 2s without any friends?

[serene lion]

Nicee good shi

[wet flicker]

Yeah I instantly noticed that. Wonder how they just let it be

[woven kite]

Good point

[grim burrow]

They definitely did not fix the 50% charge invulnerability on up tilt

Do you guys prefer right stick or left stick+attack for your side air?

[midnight fog]

I prefer left stick but I think utilizing right stick is better because you can move/DI while aiming

[woven kite]

I prefer left

[woven kite]

I use right stick for moonwalk horsey

[copper dawn]

Longest Jake combo?

[crude reef]

jab1 jab2 to down tilt 4 times in a row if they don’t di or hit the ground

or if they are not a light weight

max damage prob 40 😭🙏

[covert parcel]

Loss into concede

[crude reef]

also a w combo

[copper dawn]

💀

[crude reef]

alr

[crude reef]

playing ranked 2v2

and for some reason the lower ranks are so much better than the higher ranks in masters and grandmaster

played against the top 13 grandmaster tnj

and he wasn’t really that good

still lost tho

[thorn zenith]

Jake is like King Dedede from Smash Ultimate

Low Tier High Effort

That is the best way I can put it

[glad dagger]

also can i just add the batman 85 jake looks way better in the promo image
like the mask is bigger and actually looks like its where his eyes should be

[woven kite]

Yeah thats pretty accurate in 1s

[copper dawn]

Is there any actual 40% combo from jab

[woven kite]

Not sure

But anybody with good DI can escape jab jab dtilt

[copper dawn]

:((

[woven kite]

Also to be able to repeat it 4 times you would need to be at the edge of the stage

[copper dawn]

Im not ready to play da combo- less

[woven kite]

And then jab jab dtilt dodge jab jab tilt

And repeat to the opposite end of the stage

[woven kite]

Us jake mains have to work 2 times harder than the rest

[covert parcel]

2 is an understatement

[shy epoch]

So there’s a glitch with Jake that I’ve been experiencing a lot where he will bite someone but it won’t eat them. Just played a match where I wasn’t able to swallow anyone until the end of the match. Tried like 7 times and it just bit them but didn’t swallow so I couldn’t spit them out

[topaz edge]

Killing jake because he used sair it's the saddest thing bro, I really want them to rework this char at this point

Give him some justice

[crude reef]

why are all of jake’s moves that’s suppose to combo into each other is dodgeable?

his jabs ate dodgeable

his skateboard after the first bounce is dodgeable

even his up air

they don’t wanna make jake better at all

[teal sphinx]

im losing 19 and gaining 4 rp

against MASTERS

im not on insane lose streaks either

so it just doesnt make sense to me

i geniunely wanna know

if thats just a me thing

or a universal issue

gaining 4 rp

is insane to me

against a MASTER

and then i gained 19 rp for beating a plat player???

like what???

[glad dagger]

yeah i don't see ranked as something worth grinding past master 1 tbh
idk why the system is like that

and i'm kinda content with #5 jake, idk how the people above me are doing it

[teal sphinx]

if im only gaining 8 rp

on a GOOD DAY

i think its time to hang up the coat

losing 19 and gaining 8 is insane

its against masters

as well

so it just doesnt make sense

ig i should prob hop on a new character besides jake for a lil while

[fresh rapids]

Have they still not fixed this character

I come back like every month to ask at this point 😭

[woven kite]

Surely next month is when we get buffs

[fresh rapids]

Watch pfg nerf him

[woven kite]

They're gonna take away the 1 damage in upair 2 that he got from the s3 midseason patch

[muted lance]

Honestly just delete Jake from the game and let him spend time with his wife and kids

[crude reef]

say the same for ppg

townsville out here in flames and being terrorized

while they out here beating up batman

[distant smelt]

i'm getting this one too, i imagine it must SUCK in ranked

since last patch the game's been having some really annoying problems with hits not quite connecting in general... i wonder if this is a side effect?

really often lately i'll hear the BOMP sound of delivering a heavy hit but the knockback doesnt actually happen at all

[shy epoch]

Oh brother, I’m WELL aware of how his bite move works. What I’m saying is even when I haven’t used the bite on someone it will do damage but not eat them. Not that it will eat them and immediately spit them out because I keep doing it, it doesn’t eat them at all. I have a clip of it happening to me like 4 times in a row. And don’t try to be condescending and say I need to use other moves, I know what I’m doing and doesn’t appreciate the tone.

Plus, someone else just said they were experiencing the same thing, so I know I’m not crazy lmao

[shy epoch]

I know right? I’ve been experiencing a lot of weird stuff like that happening. It seems like something major got messed with in this most recent update. Between hitbox glitches, move glitches, not seeing people’s actual rank, not seeing my correct rank in game, they must’ve REALLY messed up recently and I don’t know how

[crude reef]

can you show us the clip?

i wanna see what you’re talking about cuz i’ve never seen something that you’re describing

sounds interesting

[covert parcel]

can anyone just not bite ?? like i’m hitting it and they’re taking damage but not getting in my mouth

[covert parcel]

just experienced this

[crude reef]

@teal sphinx facing you in 2’s rn

lol

[teal sphinx]

lolll ggs

always fun to see another jake main in ranked

[glad dagger]

i just fought kappapingwarrior in a 1v1 and was gonna ping him to say ggs but looks like he left

[crude reef]

i was struggling that game

my inputs were literally delayed and crap

hate playing on ps4 😭

[crude reef]

who

[teal sphinx]

lol unfortunate

whole game feels sluggish in general after the patch

cant quite tell what the issue is though

[glad dagger]

he's #4 jake the guy above me

[teal sphinx]

how much rp do yall get per win>

im getting 8 rp per win against a masters in 1v1

[glad dagger]

and now i'm fighting a a plat jake right after
why does everyone play him so weird it throws me off

[teal sphinx]

really demotivating

i love how the map is just calledd

"space"

[crude reef]

i think we got 14 after beating yall

it was either 14 or 22 ican’t remember

but i’ve been gaining 24 after winning against masters and sometimes 14

17 against people below me

[teal sphinx]

nah not 2s

im talking about 1s

my 2s rp actually makes sense lol

1s i get 8 rp per win and 19 per loss

[glad dagger]

i got +31 for beating the plat jake lmao

[teal sphinx]

thats weird

because

i get more rp

for beating plat players as well

and 8 rp for beating masters

[glad dagger]

its busted

[teal sphinx]

lol

makes no sense

[glad dagger]

they really gotta fix this in general

in both modes people are getting gm with low win rates

[teal sphinx]

at one point they inflated the rp gain so much lol

looks like they toned it back down

and it was a universal thing because master players were getting in the 40 rp gain range

honestly im just about ready to get to season 4

pretty bored with the game overall

[glad dagger]

same i'm just waiting for marceline

i love jake but no motivation to grind ranked

[teal sphinx]

good thing shes coming in 20 days

[glad dagger]

i suggest you all move on to marceline too given they most likely won't give anything to jake

[teal sphinx]

yeah i might prob move to marceline or samurai jack

i just enjoy jake for his kit

its pretty creative

(sometimes)

marceline based on leaks looks like shes going to be super creative

[glad dagger]

yeah its pretty exciting
i play jake cause i love adventure time and finn and bg aren't for me

neither of them come close to the sauce jake has

[teal sphinx]

frfr

[short saddle]

100% dropping Jake for Marceline, they clearly want to Jake to be one trick gimmick character and I’m not rocking with the dev neglect ever again

[teal sphinx]

yeah it is what it is

i guess they realize his kit is a bit hard to balance

and decided

its better to let him drown

then let the whole cast drown

[short saddle]

Idk about balance cause even in the beta, the only thing that made him overwhelming was skateboard but the physics around jakes attacks and character model in general are really bad to the point that it goes against the game’s gravity system

Jakes moves literally like break the game

[teal sphinx]

they nerfed him and skateboard quite a bit in beta

ur right through

its like the gravity system thats more of an issue

previously in season 1 in launch skateboard could travel pretty far

but it was hard to land

they adjusted that

idk honestly

the games slower speed

just does not fit

jakes kit

[glad dagger]

i just find it funny they accidentally gave him a super jump that one patch

[teal sphinx]

yeah honestly it kinda sucks they gave him that because it lead to it being totally removed

post launch he could do

the jab combo

[short saddle]

Seriously, not only is it actually coded weirdly but the speed makes every single attack he uses look like it’s in slow motion and holy hell the hit stop makes it ten times worse

[teal sphinx]

then iad to skateboard

[short saddle]

Are you talking about skateboard jumping?

[teal sphinx]

im willing to bet

neutral in to neutral special

for jake

is abt to get nerffed

s4

[glad dagger]

yeah

[short saddle]

That is a pretty accurate estimate in my opinion, it’s funny cause it’s not even a guaranteed combo

[teal sphinx]

yeah

[short saddle]

Can’t believe they got rid of that, I finally thought that Jake had some important tech that would make him at least somewhat mobile but no, we are still stuck with horse moonwalking

[teal sphinx]

thats def getting removed

[short saddle]

Oh yeah for sure lmao

[teal sphinx]

im assuming they havent removed it because they know jakes trash rn

or maybe they arent aware of it

who knows

[short saddle]

They didn’t remove it probably cause they don’t know it exists, let’s be real

[glad dagger]

that kappapingwarrior guy used it a lot

doesn't even seem that useful but def getting patched out

[teal sphinx]

yeah its not

i usually only use it after having used horse normally

it catches them off guard

[short saddle]

I just do it every time I horse, so I can run back and hit them with a nair or something

Or i spam it with jump just to be weird

[teal sphinx]

honestly

i find using horse normally

to be better

for some odd reason

the enemy players dont expect his turn to be that long

and they whiff their attack

[short saddle]

It sucks fr, but that’s missy cause horse itself is a genuinely awful move

[teal sphinx]

horse had some combos in beta

im surprised they removed it lmao

[glad dagger]

using horse normally is better

[short saddle]

Which in my opinion was egregious

[glad dagger]

going backwards when the hit is at the front makes no sense

[short saddle]

Mobility purposes, it’s not always about hitting the enemy

The animation for him to transform out is mega laggy, it’s good to get a good position in case you miss

[teal sphinx]

when ur biggest tech in a character is technically a glitch and not even all that good yk the character is cooked

[short saddle]

Lmao fr

[short saddle]

It’s not even an elaborate glitch either, it’s literally the most basic colliding inputs

It really shouldn’t be a thing, if the devs actually cared about developing Jake right rather than just giving him wacky moves

[teal sphinx]

im pretty sure

it wasnt a thing in beta

[crude reef]

just got the stupid glitch where i can’t bite anyone

just great

[short saddle]

No it was

[woven kite]

are we talking bout moonwalk horsey

[covert parcel]

if it does there’s literally no saving jake he’ll be completely horrible that’s the only thing holding him together rn

[teal sphinx]

huh weird

I guess no one bothered using it

[covert parcel]

#clips message

Jake bite glitch since some of yall ain’t seen it

[unreal hazel]

I am feeling the pain

[teal sphinx]

39 rp for beating a diamond 3

lol? u can not make this ranked system up 🤦‍♂️

do we know if jake is getting a meurto skin

[glad dagger]

i'm gonna be fr bite is one of his best moves but he does not need it to win

[woven kite]

Some agent smith guy uploaded his 1v1 ranked set against you on yt

[glad dagger]

who

i mean if its one i lost i'm not surprised its agent jab

[woven kite]

Achromics

Some guy with 346 subs

[glad dagger]

idk why its such a flex he's playing a better character

plus ain't nobody know me lmao

[woven kite]

The gun alone stops pretty much all of our approach options

[glad dagger]

yeah i just got gunned and jabbed like the entire time

boring af

i'm fighting a smith rn and its super annoying, you di jab jab d tilt wrong one time you get combo'd to 70

[woven kite]

Whats the correct way to di that combo

[glad dagger]

you gotta make it so it doesn't groundbounce you so like up and away i think

[glad dagger]

and man i'm having more fun playing fleet in rivals 2

[woven kite]

It might just be a better game ngl

[glad dagger]

oh it is

even if jabversus didn't exist anymore it'd still be better

[muted lance]

No he's not. I don't think any adventure time characters are

[teal sphinx]

Finn is

his skin was shown off

it looks really damn good

[muted lance]

I know I'll want the Beetlejuice and Jason one

[teal sphinx]

Jason is getting one?

that's gonna be cool

[muted lance]

He has a mask of course he will

[teal sphinx]

istg jason's event skins always go so incredibly hard

[muted lance]

Obviously smh

He doesn't have many skins but they always hit

[teal sphinx]

yea 😭

wish i could say the same for Jake

though he does have some decent event skins

i just wish his transformations also had the skin

[short saddle]

Yeah cause the character was good without stupid niche tech

[covert parcel]

bro he doesn’t even have that many skins just give him one pfg

[muted lance]

Candy Elemental, Christopher, etc

[glad dagger]

give me zombie jake

i'm surprised that back in beta they made it calico cake instead of that

calico cake is a great skin though so idm

[teal sphinx]

looking at some beta Jake gameplay and God does it look absolutely glorious

[glad dagger]

i miss beta skill expression

and not getting jab looped over and over

[crude reef]

back when the game was so much fun and good

[glad dagger]

back when players scrapped instead of using jab

[crude reef]

back when they actually added characters from other franchises instead of dc characters every season

[rare owl]

we've only gotten a dc character in season 1 and season 3 and people actually wanted the joker

that actually isnt much of a gap but it felt long

[leaden axle]

Season 4 and 5 are mostly like having 1 dc character. Don’t want to spoil who. also not 100% confirmed but likely.

[crude reef]

already seen the next 2 dc characters on the multiversus wiki

1 of them is definitely coming

[leaden axle]

i hope that charcter releases with marcy because the 2 of them on the season promo art would look sick

[glad dagger]

its very likely the other character is raven given she's been teased a bit like marceline

[crude reef]

anyone having games that randomly have very bad input lag?

just had a game and i literally couldn’t play due to my imputs being delayed for like a whole second

[muted lance]

Myself im more annoyed that the prestige costumes have been DC or Rick & Morty

[teal sphinx]

prestige adventure time skins

nowww

[crude reef]

need a prestige jake rn

[muted lance]

If starchild Jake wasn't already in the game now it would probably be a prestige skin

[covert parcel]

gut grinder

[ashen echo]

BRO

THAT SHIELDING MECHANIC WILL DESTROY JAKE BEYOND RECOGNITION

HOW WILL YOU EVEN LAND LONG PUNCHES NOW

nah if they are going to add freaking block mechanic they need to add feints

for everyone

because only a few characters can feint

[flint minnow]

im hoping they make armor breaking attacks also break shields so we can still use the armor punch perk for long punches

if not then its over

[topaz edge]

It's not, they are not affected by that, everyone is going to have a special shield breaker move

I don't think it's a direct nerf for Jake since you have bite but yeah, Jake still needs a lot of buffs

[glad dagger]

armor break attacks don't break shield but are safe on shield

[ashen echo]

you mean the purple attacks right

[vivid hemlock]

Yes

[glad dagger]

2/3 of jake's armor break moves are pretty decent i'd say so he could def pressure shield

and ofc bite

[crude reef]

please don’t add shielding to the game bruh 🙏

[muted lance]

LETS MAKE JAKE EVEN WORSE

[prisma flower]

Ngl I see Jake having decent shield pressure with sair being safe

[teal sphinx]

genuinely like i dont understand if im doing something wrong

#off-topic message

thats a JOKE

its like

i wanna play this game

i swear i do

but this is just insane

i was planning on getting jake to master 1 but if im gaining 3 rp for beating a master 2 and this is constantly happening then i geniunely have no clue what to do

its like complaining isnt gonna get me anywhere but this is beyond absurd its like their telling me to delete their game lol

i only enjoy playing jake and somewhat jason

[woven kite]

Nair into skateboard isnt true unless you're fighting really fat characters, right?

[ashen echo]

Depends on positioning, I did it with a joker once in the heat of the fight

[woven kite]

Im guessing it also depends on DI

Nair into skateboard against a grounded person would be totally useless though

[glad dagger]

is this excluding third dair hit

oh wait nvm

usually i only hit nair to skateboard with a dodge/di read

never does that combo feel completely true unless its on ig lol

[topaz edge]

He's a Shaggy player, just a new player being bad at the game, ignore it lol

[glad dagger]

yeah i figured i was just answering the question on how true it was

[woven kite]

How do yall think shields will affect jake?

Landing sair in neutral is gonna be real tough now especially with how telegraphed jake sair is

[crude reef]

is he talking about the second hit of skateboard into nair?

and how could skateboard ever be broken??

spoken from a shaggy player who doesn’t know what’s broken and what isn’t

[woven kite]

The combo he is talking about doesnt really exist (unless its an iron giant). You can escape the combo if it happens in the air without even needing to dodge because DI exists.

If you try that combo on a grounded opponent, teching system will let the person escape after the first skateboard hit so it'll only do 10 dmg

[crude reef]

so then what was he complaining about

[woven kite]

I just tried nair into skateboard in lab and its not even true

Against shaggy

[crude reef]

i mean jake don’t have combos at all so

[woven kite]

Hes got 2k wins as a shaggy apparently but hes silver

So

Yeah

[crude reef]

typical shaggy main

[woven kite]

His opinion doesnt hold too much weight

[copper dawn]

Yesss

Y’all are so cooked I can’t wait till they add shields

[prisma flower]

Bruh do you hate Jake or something?

[copper dawn]

Nah I like characters I don’t play become useless

I mean atleast y’all can side air mean when im offstage

but onstage 🤣🤣🤣

It’s over, I wonder how Jake’s neutral game is

[alpine hatch]

Played a few 1s and they don’t really affect him that much

[copper dawn]

Do you get punished for sair?

[alpine hatch]

Not really

In the games i did it was more for nair

[prisma flower]

I mean he was already useless bruh

[covert parcel]

jake and broken in the same sentence 💔

[muted lance]

Calling Jake broken? Send them to the Nightosphere

[woven kite]

Stunned for 10 years if you hit a nair on a shielded guy

[woven kite]

Shields are kinda fun ngl

[ashen echo]

i havent played this game in quite a while

jake feels...good?