Garnet

[tiny comet]

Had an idea but unlikely

Can you bubble a ppg 😂

[icy umbra]

That would be incredibly based

[lapis lynx]

Lol that'd be funny

[exotic hemlock]

does their side special count as a heavy projectile?

i know you can’t hit them which is a bit wack

[tiny comet]

Thats was my idea

Kinda like agent smiths clone grab

Which you can bubble

😂

[exotic hemlock]

yep lol

time for the lab

even if we could it’s not like it would activate on time 😭

[wicked tusk]

Man, i want to focus on play Garnet and WW in 2s this season
but the matchmake took pretty longer than 1s

[lapis lynx]

I wonder if the girl's weight changes depending on whos the leader

[tiny comet]

[exotic hemlock]

who’s the fattest

[icy umbra]

I just meant in general, not the PPG specifically. I know absolutely nothing about the PPG lol. I fought 2 yesterday. Won 1, lost 1.

[lapis lynx]

Nice

[wicked tusk]

everything is nice

[lapis lynx]

[exotic hemlock]

the one downside to the new perk is that you have to be on ground

[slim stone]

How's the new perk?

[exotic hemlock]

it’s fun when fighting people who don’t know about it

but most of the time you either fling it off the map or it goes away before you can use it

if you put it on a platform though you can trigger a ground bounce that can get you a free combo

[tiny comet]

Mini c4

[exotic hemlock]

who’s number 6 grandmaster garnet

is he the star abuser?

[tiny comet]

Havent checked name?

Start abuser?

[exotic hemlock]

Bobby?

[tiny comet]

Dunno

[icy umbra]

I know I lost to a garnet yesterday named amlak, kinda laggy and was trying to do the star in the blast zone cheese.

Also, in a sea of Every masters player that started Plat 5, I ran into the superman that keeps bullying me. LET ME LIVE.

The matches are always 2-3, but the loops are still there and his grab hitboxes be scoopin.

[woeful goblet]

dam garnet fast af now lol

[exotic hemlock]

were you able to do this combo before? #clips message

if they dodge away after hitstun you get a free down tilt but i don’t know if it’s worth it

[novel copper]

We can't really do that anymore .-.

[icy umbra]

They didn't do it with rockets, they jump into the top blast zone and manually place star. I genuinely don't get how they don't ring themselves out.

[exotic hemlock]

it’s just odd maps, it shouldn’t be an issue if they just test all characters

like the minute your character becomes hidden by the map they should be rung out

[versed bronze]

guess who bacc

[lapis lynx]

FROSS

Have you had a chance to play the patch?

[versed bronze]

yep

garnet a+ tier

rn

[lapis lynx]

W

[versed bronze]

ok
charging dair is viable strategy rn

[icy umbra]

@versed bronze thoughts of thunderclap?

[neat igloo]

hey whoever Bobby is don't do that again finish the set

[versed bronze]

using it

its good

in almost every match up

[hushed needle]

what happened to your account

[icy umbra]

Interesting. How are you using it to apply pressure?

[versed bronze]

lets say that you can only have takes that mods agree with

will not say more

but fck them

[tiny comet]

Facts

Cancel culture

[versed bronze]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/iHIPHCOacAhwXHCoO/d1337l5AQbuQ?invite=cr-MSxIdmMsMTczNTU5NTQ5LA

looooove this perk

[drowsy arch]

what do u guys think is the best perk in garnet's third slot.

Movespeed,
last stand (weaken)
or broken wings?

[icy umbra]

I normally default to last stand, but I'm considering SFA becuase I'm thinking about running electric groove now.

[versed bronze]

last stand

if you dont plat groove

[drowsy arch]

what's plat groove?

[dense nebula]

using thunderclap, can garnet jab, shoot the up b ball and detonate it as a true combo?

[drowsy arch]

oh u mean play groove?

[dense nebula]

9/10 times last stand is the best perk in that slot

broken wings MIGHT be good if you struggle offstage

[drowsy arch]

i guess i have to get better on my defense in general

for the longest time i've gone movespeed because I couldn't utilize last stand good enough

but my friend basically told me i'm just bad LOL.... so i'm gonna try last stand again

[icy umbra]

I dont think so. Ball into clap isn't true, and since ball goes off when clap does, it shouldn't work.

[versed bronze]

btw

[tiny comet]

👀

[versed bronze]

dlight is now so good against taz

like

charged dlight

[tiny comet]

and steven

[versed bronze]

is blessing

[dense nebula]

what do you get out of ball?

[tiny comet]

😏

[dense nebula]

can garnet still jab ball jab?

[drowsy arch]

that was never true unless they were burnt out

or if they are at 100 damage

or like 80+?

that's when there's enough hitstun

[versed bronze]

still
window to dodge is VERY narrow

[exotic hemlock]

it only works for big characters for me

[drowsy arch]

did u set a char to high damage?

i'll try it in training one sec

it works for me

[exotic hemlock]

it’s more about the angle it goes over,

i’ll test it out in a bit

[drowsy arch]

set handicap to 75 on shaggy. dodge after htistun

the combo works

if it's 70 damage or less it doesn't combo

[exotic hemlock]

good to know

thanks 🙏

[drowsy arch]

it's a high% kill combo

[exotic hemlock]

as in you can jab ball jab clap and kill at 75?

[icy umbra]

It's good to keep in mind, jab ball CAN hit smaller characters if you catch them jumping or before they land. The opponent being a little airborne can help a bit.

[hushed needle]

true

[drowsy arch]

no it combos at 75 onwards (char dependent. Heavier chars require later percentages)

[tiny comet]

[lavish berry]

How do y'all deal with Batman's. I legit can't do anything against them. They just out camp me, and out frame data me.

[tiny comet]

Hes pretty nuts

[lapis lynx]

Batman is very good rn

[drowsy arch]

i just lsot to 1

[dark quiver]

don't think there's an answer to him for garnet tbh, he's too fast and has better buttons

[drowsy arch]

wtf? disconnect penalty when i didn't even disconnect? I was in queue wtf?

the f is that crap. it said i got -10

[tiny comet]

Game is in beta

Patch week worse week

[fleet birch]

lose

u just gotta really try and outplay him

[tiny comet]

^

[fleet birch]

work on dodges

[exotic hemlock]

haven’t fought a batman but that uptilt has always been lethal

[fleet birch]

hes just always been a menace

[exotic hemlock]

and what do we do with menaces?

we complain until someone does something about it

this jab ball jab clap combo is really good

i’m learning more about this character everyday

[drowsy arch]

Lol the game wouldn't let me re-queue because it said i disconnected. wow.

[fleet birch]

thats what i do lol

oh my god what is up with my 2v2 teammates being new to the gmae

[exotic hemlock]

2v2s sound like torture

[fleet birch]

oh my godf

i swear

theyre handpicking the newest players to be my teammates

i had them in the final combo and he launches a safe at them and we lose

[drowsy arch]

i like 2v2

that's my main mode

i find 1v1 rly frustrating if i get someone who is really slippery

[fleet birch]

Its either my teammates bad

or the ppl we are against just take up so much space i cant do much

like ppg and samurai jack

[drowsy arch]

i find all ppgs are trash rn lol

prob gonna take a few days before they get good

[fleet birch]

yea but in 2v2 she just takes up a ton of space

another sam jack and ppg

lets hope this random finn is good

HES FIGHTING AIR

bro

[tiny comet]

I just be chillin

Playing for fun

😏

[exotic hemlock]

in a map like cromulons down tilt is to good but a little hard to pull off

if I my opponent is playing passive and I wanted to counter that by also playing passive what would a go to move be for punishing

nair isn’t hitting the way it used to

i’ve had more misses with the new perk than anything else

everyone is playing so cautious cause of it

and then I can’t approach at all

getting a jerry to 140 and can’t land a single jab as he just rocket spams jerry

why is there no cooldown to that wrap around

i hate move that have slight jumps that my down tilt just misses

and down tilt at higher percentages has too much knock back to even finish with clap

[drowsy arch]

u have to jump up air

some weird stuff at various percents

[exotic hemlock]

by then they’re no longer stunned

[drowsy arch]

i've been able to connect it

it's true at certain percents i believe

[exotic hemlock]

i’ll try it more often thank you for the help

god I feel like such a complainer

need to learn how to stop raging

[drowsy arch]

i'm like that too. Garnet is sometimes a frustrating char to learn. I had a lot of walls.

[exotic hemlock]

not according to people in general

[fleet birch]

oh my god yall werent kidding batman is so op now

Like hes always been like annoyingly good

but now hes just flat out broken

[rough mason]

Honestly I think the PPG’s are gonna be my second main

[exotic hemlock]

that true combo he has is literally unavoidable

[fleet birch]

which one

[exotic hemlock]

idk he has one that puts you to 60 health

its the only combo this batman knows

[fleet birch]

which one 😭

[exotic hemlock]

LMFAO

[fleet birch]

its like

throw out batarang

[exotic hemlock]

jab kick bats rang idk

[fleet birch]

if u get combod

it comes back

and then gets u into a 60 dmg combo

[exotic hemlock]

pretty sure

[fleet birch]

then the bom

bomb

and his huge up attack

[exotic hemlock]

thing is it techs

[fleet birch]

ur just dead

[exotic hemlock]

so if he read the tech you’re already at 90

gonna spar some batman’s to learn a bit more

[icy umbra]

unless training room in bugged, projectile shield works against bugs safe and morty bombs

[exotic hemlock]

also rocket

you can just stand there unfazed

[icy umbra]

and walking over morty bomb with the shield just destroys them apparently.

[exotic hemlock]

interesting

doesn’t block dirt though rip

lol how broken that would be

[icy umbra]

that would be crazy

[drowsy arch]

there's a batman anniversary... prob gonna nerf him after the event? lol

i've been really liking groove perk especially in 2s because of downtilt buff. i'm getting the buff proc more often now

[fleet birch]

thats what i was thinking'

just the fact that so many components of his kit work by themselves

[exotic hemlock]

has taz ever had a problem with dropping people

[fleet birch]

and then hes really well rounded

[fleet birch]

ive never heard of it

[exotic hemlock]

hmm

[drowsy arch]

taz, batman, beetlejuice are big threats for me rn

they seem a lot stronger

[fleet birch]

beetle is kinda strange threat ngl

[tiny comet]

Its buttered buns

[drowsy arch]

i think beetle is gonna keep evolving this patch.... there were a couple i felt like i couldn't do anything (similar feeling to batman). Beetle is much rarer tho

I really love the nerf to black adam's down attack. Thank god

[exotic hemlock]

it depends on the user

he’s so oppressive if they spam his worm and bomb

[drowsy arch]

omg SO SICK... I had 3 stack rhythym up and black adam's neutral special lightening completely whiffed

it said (dodge above my head)

[tiny comet]

Op op

5 long seconds

[lavish berry]

Just fought a garnet ditto in ranked and he was emoting on me all game, but ended up losing, but flashed a GG at the end like he wasn't bad manners the whole game

He lost, if that wasn't clear

[drowsy arch]

these garnet buffs feel so good. I feel like I'm playing a real char now lol

the clap fix makes me really happy

[fleet birch]

what was his name

[drowsy arch]

LOL wtf does garnet's stack 3 shield block fishing rod too?!

i'm playing vs a tom and black adam and it's stuffing so much crap

it's insane

kinda op

[wicked tusk]

really? good to know
it's official then

[drowsy arch]

I swear it was... I need to get a tom to play with me to see for sure

I can see her stack 3 def getting nerf... it should b like 1 hit? maybe 2? kinda similar to steven's

omfg..... can u imagine if u have garnet's stack 3 + steven shield LOL.....

[exotic hemlock]

is arya still good against garnet

i just fought one but he was playing so passive i got bored and just left

it was causal no one should play so passive on casual

[drowsy arch]

just got into diamond 5

[wicked tusk]

i'm kinda don't think so
because from 1s perspective overall:

1. getting 3 stack is pretty longer
2. your oppts could interrupt if playing aggressively

mostly i'm dancing after i KO'ed my oppts, but when i try dancing while oppt still alive, mostly i'm only get 1 stack

[drowsy arch]

I have to experiment more in 2s, specifically in the tom matchup on if it's worth to keep up stack 3....

i think it is

ur right tho... not as good in 1v1

[fleet birch]

im doing 1v1 with this dude

and he said pick garnet i can beat her with samurai jack

he had 5kos

he didnt get a ringout once

😭

5-0

[drowsy arch]

lolllllll

i like the garnet vs jack matchup. I think it's even

[wicked tusk]

And also when match up against Tom
don't ever dancing while TnJ still alive, because even Garnet's new shield can block Jerry
but we can't block Jerry with dancing shield

[wicked tusk]

thanks for the experiences, i'm getting use to it, even could be sweaty

[fleet birch]

yea just some funky interactions

[drowsy arch]

i love punishing his side special with a nair ground bounce into jab combo

[wicked tusk]

Just keep you fists close, everything is nice (will be fine)

[fleet birch]

OH MY GOD I DID IT AGAIN LMAOOO

[drowsy arch]

did what?

[tiny comet]

Nerf garnet

[fleet birch]

5-0 this guy

[tiny comet]

Sad last stand really is a crutch perk

[fleet birch]

yall can catch me jumping off the map vs iron giant

cuz wtf

talk about free wins

[tiny comet]

Theres a neutral punch bug

[fleet birch]

what is it

[tiny comet]

Punch but float up as the knockback

Instead of dying

[icy umbra]

Oh yeah, that happened to me a few times yesterday.

Wack af

[tiny comet]

I gotta stop playing

Ima get garnet nerfed

[drowsy arch]

IKR LOL

my winrate is bonkers... but then i got to diamond and I'm losing left and right again haha

there's also a perma shocked buff bug

[exotic hemlock]

rn?

[drowsy arch]

ya

i don't know how to trigger it tho

sometimes when i attack in the zone after I shoot ball, I notice i keep the shocked buff for an extremely long time

usually until i use another shocked move

and it def applies shocked because I've been using the groove signature perk and I get stacks of rhythym super fast when this bug happens

it's like marvin's flag bug.... god that one is so effing annoying. It's basically RIP to ur stock if it happens to u lol

[exotic hemlock]

i’m surprise you run that but that’s so godly

[exotic hemlock]

wdym by this though like where do you attack?

[drowsy arch]

u attack in the yellow zone

the one that gives u the shocked buff

[exotic hemlock]

as in the orb, you fight inside the orb?

[drowsy arch]

yes

that's how u get the shocked buff to begin with

did u know the orb gives shocked buff? xD

[exotic hemlock]

yes I did i just wasn’t sure if you meant like there was a map zone that gives you infinite shocks when doing shocked moves or if it’s just the orb

[drowsy arch]

ah

[tiny comet]

3 neutral punches

[exotic hemlock]

i wish d tilt into neutral punch was true lol

i love d tilt so much my favorite move

[drowsy arch]

I think it is at a certain damage and distance away?

u can def down tilt into jab, then u can jab into punch

it's true at 0% damage

at least on shaggy

mid range down tilt distance.... hold for about 1 second then u can get a semi-charge fist

ya i just did it in the lab with bot set on dodge after hitstun

[drowsy arch]

i just faught a garnet in grandmasters

rank 79

the garnet rep xD

[exotic hemlock]

so many garnets are in grandmaster rn it’s so good to see

[tiny comet]

It bees but if aint charge whats the point

To much rng knockback too

[tiny comet]

Garnet nerf incoming

[wicked tusk]

GG = Garnet Grandmaster

[exotic hemlock]

Now if they were gay they’d be

i’m tired

[wicked tusk]

don't let outsiders of this channel ask to this channel about english or spanish joke

[exotic hemlock]

all i’m saying is id still be able to move

[tiny comet]

English or spanish?

Charges

[icy umbra]

Is bigjohnson in here? I saw his midnight multiversus grand finals vs a superman named anthos. I want to ask if he thinks superman is a tough matchup or if Anthos is just cracked.

[tiny comet]

Nah

Anthos is one of the ones

Bjohnson be in jb streams

[icy umbra]

Gotcha. What do the good garnets think of the superman matchup rn?

[tiny comet]

Check dm

I wonder if the 3rd rhythm stack butter buns negate frost breath

[sullen steppe]

How to beat garnet bro

Anytime I play PPG garnet washes me

[novel copper]

Screw it, bought the battlepass

not gonna wait for my token to be restored if I'm just gonna be buying later ones anyway

[tiny comet]

Use bubbles neutral special to reflect projectiles

Ppg nair is pretty good too vs garnet

Prioritize being bubbles cause the other ppg are slow but hit harder

You can always side special her armor moves grabs beat armor

And just do jab into up attack kill confirm instead of doing the same combo that might kill isnt better than doing to combo that will kill

Efficiency over flashy

[jolly flax]

How does one deal with the Powerpuff girls like it’s so weird to fight against them

[tiny comet]

Avoid nair and dtilt u’ll be fine

Everything works on them and their hurt box is pretty huge

[dark quiver]

just had clap drop 3 times in a row vs shaggy haha

thought we fixed this, but i guess not!!!

[wicked tusk]

after i think carefully about clap, i don't think the clap need to be 100% confirm the hit
because it'll be similar like Taz's sandwich
iirc, they buffed the clap just made more consistent

[exotic hemlock]

same thing happened to me with harley right now, two kill confirms dropped and she was at 140

[dark quiver]

yeah i think you're both right, the clap drops when above 100%

so i had my clap drop 3 times in a row at 150+, and then on a separate game, i had it drop at 110 (also a shaggy)

[wicked tusk]

can you clip it next time?
i want to believe it, but it's a bit difficult because we need proof so we can send this to feedback and hopefully they can do something about that

[dark quiver]

i have it

[wicked tusk]

send to #off-topic
then send its link to this channel

[dark quiver]

#off-topic message

[wicked tusk]

hmmm, i think it's kind of knockback issue
yea since day 1, i'm kinda felt weird about % damage and the knockback from it

somehow we and the oppts can survive at >150% sometimes

[dark quiver]

i think what they need to do is make the first hit from the clap have no knockback scaling, but it will still vacuum them to the middle area above garnet

[wicked tusk]

i think you confirmed it, it's just the knockback from that clip is really weird
i don't think the main issue is from Garnet, but the game itself
i could be wrong

[dark quiver]

hmm i see what you're saying

alternative take: it's shaggy and his weird weight and hitboxes

#off-topic message wacky jab hitbox from shaggy

his jab1 definitely hit my gauntlet, but jab2 and 3 were definitely not touching anything and seem to be hitting me with his body or elbows

[tiny comet]

Nerf garnet

[tiny comet]

Personally it might be a mixture of last stand perk and server registering the attack issue

I think last stand needs to be removed or other perks need better buffs

Its becoming like how taz trig was in the beta

[dark quiver]

oh that's a really good point actually, let me try playing without last stand

[tiny comet]

Mandatory

[icy umbra]

In theory, garnet doesn't need last stand. She only struggles to kill if you miss you percent windows for kill confirms.

[tiny comet]

I turn into wild thornberry donnie when jack survived a fully charged neutral punch at 130 that he just went straight up

[icy umbra]

I would also go Feral

I haven't played without last stand for a while, but I'm going to run electric groove and SFA today. I really don't think garnet is desperate for extra kill power. I JUST NEED KILL MOVES TO FUNCTION PFG PLEASE

[lapis lynx]

Speed force assist my beloved

[drowsy arch]

that's what i am saying

someone crapped on me because I said I think it's a lot closer whether speed force assist or last stand is more valuable

I think the obvious choice is last stand. But I find that I just die by the time i get 100 damage a lot....

[tiny comet]

It just makes killing her harder

[drowsy arch]

and i just need to maneuver

it doesn't tho?

because I'm usually killing someone at my damage at 0% when i respawn

[tiny comet]

#off-topic message

The clip

[icy umbra]

Last stand also doesn't plug up any holes in garnets gameplay, while SFA does. Rythm stack moves speed + SFA seems like a lot. And electric groove means less management for us, not fiending for downtime to charge rythm.

But I haven't tried it in matches so I could be cappin.

[drowsy arch]

can u guys stop playing garnet

i hate playing against garnet as garnet lol

LMFAOOOO

[exotic hemlock]

garnet is really strong in lower ranks

[tiny comet]

Garnet op

Nerf

[exotic hemlock]

lmfao really op

[drowsy arch]

i can't stand finn still

[exotic hemlock]

i can’t believe i’ve been putting off ranked im climbing

[drowsy arch]

it felt easy all the way up to diamond 5 for me

and then i can't move anywhere lol

[exotic hemlock]

haven’t fought one yet

are they just playing passive

[novel copper]

I can't stress enough how much of an ordeal climbing from Diamond to Master was

You were right to put it off

😭

[tiny comet]

I be putting it off

I play whenever i feel like it

11-0 btw

[dark quiver]

@wicked tusk more claps for you (these are without last stand) #off-topic message

[tiny comet]

Freelo

[novel copper]

Wow, I thought they fixed clap, what happened

[drowsy arch]

so i lost 19 vs grandmasters and i lose 4 vs golds?

i don't get it

[dark quiver]

it's more consistent at lower percentages (sub 100) but completely inconsistent when they're above 100

you have to be right on top or inside of someone for it to properly kill them at 100+

[novel copper]

Dang... that sucks 😔

[dark quiver]

still no justice for garnet mains until we get one good season without any flops 😔

[tiny comet]

Naaaaa

We’ve gotten buffs every patch

Daddy chillll

[exotic hemlock]

once the streamers start complaining it’s when we should worry

[wicked tusk]

Even sometimes i complained about broken chars, Finn pre nerf was the worst one imo
but i'm personally won't ask for nerf any chars, because it'll potentially will ruin the game
like, come on, like Velma buff for example, let her get spot at top tier for while
Lebron and Garnet as well

"Complaining" is start getting a common thing and kind of exaggerated without learning the match up further

[exotic hemlock]

yeah lmfaoo, i think it’s mainly that pfg fails so often it’s become the default to blame the game than your skill level

but still
nerf ww

y’all know we are the second character chat with the most messages

is there a way to know when down special won’t grab?

or is that another bug

[tiny comet]

On going random bug

[icy umbra]

I'm not surprised we have the second most active chat. We been stuck cooking and scheming since relaunch just to stay alive.

[dark quiver]

it wouldn't kill them to nerf a top tier character for once tbh

[jolly flax]

Garnet deserves to be at least high tier in one of the season. She’s never been before. It’s her time

[dark quiver]

there's a clear bias towards the DC characters, they're clearly afraid of touching those in a negative way in case DC fans start an outrage

somehow every single one of them still has an egregious loop combo that either 0td's or gets you from 0-70 or something

[jolly flax]

FACTS THATS SO TRUE

Stop they are going to come after us

[solar flame]

How did the patch effect Garnet? I'm thinking about picking her back up.

[drowsy arch]

buttercup sounds so ugly lol

[lapis lynx]

I like eg daily's raspy voice

[drowsy arch]

whu dat

[lapis lynx]

Buttercup's voice actor

[exotic hemlock]

made her better, faster, stronger

#1245150486827368532 message

is this true or just an over exaggeration, i fought one joker but he still played the same as he did before so

[icy umbra]

Has anyone tried out the new Grey health perk?

[fleet birch]

i think it is im not 100% sure what all they changed

like ppl dropped gizmo like hes not still op

[tiny comet]

Sigh

Buff neutral punch

#off-topic message

Shadow nerfs i swear

[icy umbra]

They made clap slightly more reliable, but in exchange they took neutral ground away.

The PFG giveth, and the PFG taketh away

[tiny comet]

Its cause i asked for 1k damage

[exotic hemlock]

how can I even nair closer to the ground

[tiny comet]

https://www.twitch.tv/jusbetterthanu

Johnson is or was in the chat

[exotic hemlock]

chat i got a 90 percent win rate on ranked with garnet (im in silver so no impressive but still)

[tiny comet]

W mans

Garnet op

Garnet win rate too high

Nerfs incoming

[exotic hemlock]

yeah there’s times I feel like i shouldn’t have won that but clap is just too good

idk if y’all know this but if you dodge on ledge when coming back to stage you get a huge propeller boost

it’s really nifty

i can’t get it consistently but it happens a lot more often

[tiny comet]

[solar flame]

[lapis lynx]

[fleet birch]

[elder shoal]

garnet cope

[fleet birch]

???

[rigid storm]

How y’all liking the garnet buffs

[runic trail]

How is this character now? Been kinda wondering about possibly getting her but idk

[fleet birch]

shes very good

very fun too

[runic trail]

She seems fun

Her jabs feel satisfying to hit

Also I’m a Steven Universe fan lol

When are Pearl and amethyst getting added

[fleet birch]

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING

a whip fighter would be so cool

[exotic hemlock]

I’m trying to make an amethysts concept move set

[fleet birch]

do the spinnign fire whip move

[runic trail]

Ranged command grab with whip

She literally has Sonic spin dash

[fleet birch]

And pearls lasers from the spear

[runic trail]

Watch as the next SU character is freaking Connie because we totally need another sword fighter

Also ngl garnet has a decent amount of solid skins

Her wedding outfit is awesome

[fleet birch]

I want amethyst and pearl so badly

they could incorporate a ton of characters tbh

[exotic hemlock]

i was thinking that could be a dash attack

i call it the Quartz soldier roll

i know i want her neutral special to be a purple puma transform though

[fleet birch]

spin dash

[exotic hemlock]

another move could be a stun grab with her whip

[fleet birch]

and she can turn into dogcopter

[exotic hemlock]

lmfaooo that would be a cool emote

even where she turns into an actual functioning helicopter

[fleet birch]

she would be like an altered jake

shapeshifting

[exotic hemlock]

she uses purple puma form a lot when she needs strength

like her shapeshifting isn’t functionally just funny

[fleet birch]

Yess

Ngl feels like pfg keeps missing the mark with characters

Sam jack, beetle, power puff and the other character are all just kinda meh

[runic trail]

Tbh I think they’re all nice inclusions, but I feel like it’s taking a long time to get a lot of big name hitters in the game

Wish characters were added at a somewhat faster pace. Right now feels kinda slow

Like where’s Ben 10

[fleet birch]

its always nice getting a new character

but like

none of them just hit the mark

kinda niche

i bet steven universe characters would hit hard

like all the stuff they could add

maps

characters

even rifts

the diamons

diamonds

spinel

jasper

[runic trail]

Eh idk

WB has so many IPs to pull from that I can’t be sure which one will get a lot of attention

[lapis lynx]

DC has the most characters right now

[fleet birch]

yea we dont need more

pls

😭😭😭

[lapis lynx]

Guess it makes sense, dc is one of their most popular ips

[fleet birch]

yea but UGH so boring

[lapis lynx]

WBs fire emblem

[fleet birch]

i want amethyst

[runic trail]

(I lowkey would be happy to see the Flash tho)

[fleet birch]

NO

NO MORE SUPERHEROES PLS

[runic trail]

But I like flash LOL

[fleet birch]

NO

[runic trail]

But I get it

[fleet birch]

AMETHYST

or courage the cowardly dog

[runic trail]

But Ben 10 tho

[fleet birch]

eh

im indifferent to him

[runic trail]

I think a lot of people would be happy for Ben to get in tho

[exotic hemlock]

you know i would be

[lapis lynx]

Likewise, ben has so much moveset potential

[fleet birch]

i wouldnt be mad

I just want amethyst

😏

[icy umbra]

cant wait for the patch they said they would address finn mindlessly carrying you to the blast zone. everytime the "nerf" finn, his combos get more true.

4 almost back to back grandmaster finns

[drowsy arch]

i think ppl just get better with the character too

i guess it shows how powerful he was to begin lol

[icy umbra]

sure they got better, but they are still just mashing aerials until youre close enough to a blast zone for backback to kill.

when they play the game like a normal person, even matchup. when they turn their brain off and mash like a caveman, finn goes up in the tierlist

[drowsy arch]

omg Blaizzy is insane on PPG

he's laddering like crazy

[latent apex]

Hey i think i was one of those

Ggs

[fleet birch]

I think he’s dissing u ngl

[exotic hemlock]

yeah he’s throwing shade

i wouldn’t take that

can we pray that garnet gets an emote to take off her glasses

jack got a new emote that lets him put on a blindfold

[fleet birch]

He’s not wrong about Finn players tho it’s pretty brain dead

Run around with ur sword waiting for an easy opening

[tiny comet]

👀

[wicked tusk]

I haven't match up against Samjack since day 1 S3
are they change their main into PPG?

[tiny comet]

Theyre playing 2s

xD

[gusty umbra]

[woeful goblet]

what button should I press to get out of velmas truck? I don't get it

is it an insta stock once you get caught?

[tiny comet]

Neutral punch it

[tiny comet]

Its based off your hit point percentage

If your hp is high you have low resistance to get out of it

If its low you’ll break out quicker but gotta be ready to recover

[latent apex]

Well im trynna be nice

[versed bronze]

idk why people complaining about finn while playing garnet

this match up is so free its unreal

[hushed needle]

haven't played in a long time but I always complained because finn mains can't really do nothing than a boring gamestyle

if someone complained he's op when playing garnet then that's wrong tbh

his loop gameplay is just bad same as taz

[tiny comet]

Accurate

[latent apex]

I think it's pretty even depending on playstyles

Her weight makes her hard to combo and kill and i die at like 90 to uptilt

[versed bronze]

if you know what you doing finn doesnt have a chance to approche
like 0

[latent apex]

So i gotta play slow and passive unfortunately i think that's why the other guy was mad

He queued into me like 3 times

[versed bronze]

well
after i end sparring i can play vs you if you want

[latent apex]

Im not gonna be home for a few hours maybe later or tmrw

You gonna have to remind me though i got bad memory

[versed bronze]

oke

[tiny comet]

When i play vs finn all they do is camp edge if the map and never initiate

I can literally beat them using neutral punch dtilt alone most of the times

I’ll shoot a rocket fist and do down tilt if they armor the projectile and they’ll fall for dtilt everytime

[latent apex]

See that's what that guy was trynna do

But i aint dumb so i do an aerial side special instead to break gauntlets and close gap

[tiny comet]

[versed bronze]

this move is very random tho

idk how many times this move ended right next to me
so i just jabbed

[latent apex]

You can somewhat manipulate how it travels

And it doesn't have much endlag

So just be careful for that

And the matchup becomes a billion times harder for the finn

[tiny comet]

I got a complaint for using spamming projectiles as garnet

How dare i use my projectiles that go on cooldown….

[latent apex]

Doesn't garnet have like 2 that have a decent CD

[versed bronze]

^

[tiny comet]

Ikr

[versed bronze]

you spamm them off cooldown tho

to have better moves

[tiny comet]

Clap when it works

[latent apex]

Clap kills scarily early

[versed bronze]

80-90 vs finn

[latent apex]

That garnet i was fighting went for it like once which shocked me because that thing obliterates me

I shouldn't be living to like 150

[tiny comet]

Buggy clap

Buggy neutral punch

Buggy air up special

A tier despite these problems

[calm tide]

Garnet my goat

[icy umbra]

GGs. Congrats on grandmaster, Finn is frustrating lol

I stopped clapping becuase I couldn't get ahold of you. Trust me, I wanted nothing more than to clap. Clap is love, clap is life (when it works)

[latent apex]

😭

[latent apex]

Thanks, got my hands on top 3 finn gonna try and get top 1 maybe

[icy umbra]

👀

Good luck

I was trying different di, and trying to parry. Is there a way out of the blast zone carry? Or am I just in the blender?

[latent apex]

A lot of what i did on you wasn't true

For garnet u can mash ur dodge button

And DI out

Most of the time you'll drop if it's basic combos

I have to make sure to do tight combos because heavies take less hitstun

[icy umbra]

I WAS MASHING DODGE LIKE MY LIFE WAS ON THE LINE IRL

Was I laggy maybe?

[latent apex]

That's cap cause i was doing jab into IAD dair on you and that's not true on heavies until a certain procent iirc

[latent apex]

An example is sair backpack isn't true on heavies like ever

[icy umbra]

The jab into IAD dair I wasn't ready for, that's on me. I was reffering to the off stage carry.

[latent apex]

Idr know of any that i did

Do u have a clip of it maybe cause i didn't clip anything from our matches

[icy umbra]

No I don't have anything, I wasn't recording, and I don't know how to clip.

[latent apex]

Then can't really help sorry

Only things i can rlly do vs garnet is nair sair(sair 2 or) nair again and then sair 1-2

A lot of finns dont do that so you probably dont have to worry but it can carry you sometimes if ur at the right procent

[versed bronze]

@icy umbra

out or down di

most of the time work

[fleet birch]

LOOOL They’ll never notice 😏

[latent apex]

Yes and no

Depending on what im trying to do i can catch that

Id say preferably outwards. If u DI down i think it makes sair nair easier

[versed bronze]

no
he need to read di down

to actualy combo you

[icy umbra]

I think this was one my problems , becuase I thought I was dI-ing correctly and getting hit anyway. So out and down works against normal Finns, only out vs good Finns who can react to DI?

[slim stone]

I need to try Garnet our

[icy umbra]

How do you keep him out? It aways feels like running up tilt nullifies most attempts to read their movement since he is so fast and low to the ground.

[versed bronze]

dlight

just dlight

this move
especialy after buffs counter entire finn on ground

[icy umbra]

Then my timing is just awful becuase I was doing dtilt. I think I'm giving him to much space because I'm scared of the blender, so I dtilt while he has room to micro space with running jab and uptilt.

[versed bronze]

tbh now you can just charge it to the end and block counter attack with shield

[latent apex]

I noticed u always tried to start ur approaches with projectiles and just started punishing you everytime u threw one out

[tiny comet]

[icy umbra]

Sometimes in not even trying to approach, I'm just trying to get my good moves back 😭. I need to pick better times to get rid of my projectiles. I wasn't respecting how long your side special is.

[icy umbra]

Block counter with shield?

[latent apex]

When locking onto a projectile, it's lockon range is 2x aslong as when it's locking onto a player

So while u may be far enough, the projectile that i just saw you shoot isn't

[drowsy arch]

My main B&B combo is a low to the ground Nair, ground bounce, sair 1, jab 1, jab 2 up attack. Then I force my opponent to dodge and I read with either sair 1 sair 2, or another held nair. Sometimes I get another nair ground bounce and do the combo and situation all over again.

If you get a clean hit with jab1 you can go jab1, side special (gauntlets), ground bounce, IAD sair1, jab 1, jab 2 up attack. (then do the same dodge read situation as above).

Down tilt is really strong this season. Max distance down tilt leads into a jab at low %... high % you can jump and nair starter. Sometimes you can follow up with clap or a grounded up attack is good too.

If my opponent is in burnout I go for shoulder bash, sair 1, shoulder bash, sair 1, up air to carry them into the blast zone (this combo isn't guaranteed and requires to follow the opponent's movement)

Just wanted to share my combo route game plan lol.... Up for any critiques or comments. It's written a bit oddly because I commented on a youtube video when he asked what combos I do.

[tiny comet]

Nerf garnet

[drowsy arch]

LOL

[icy umbra]

So I went and actually read what Finns side special does. On the ground, hitting a projectile makes side special have less endlag, and in the air it doubles your range if you have something to lock on too. Is this right?

[latent apex]

Basically yeah

[icy umbra]

And your saying you can lock onto projectiles, not just other characters?

[latent apex]

And if ur locking onto a projectile that distance becomes like 4x for some reason

[latent apex]

Yep

And not just traditional normal projectiles

U can lock onto morty dirt, even while it's still charging, ppg side special etc etc

And u gain complete projectile immunity even if u dont break the projectile

Which lets you do the move through bugs rocket and stuff

[icy umbra]

So I have to either throw my projectiles from across the stage, or use them in weird positions and be tricky about it.

Otherwise I'm giving you a garunteed gap closer since I'd be stuck in endlag

[latent apex]

It might genuinely be more optimal to throw them off the map

[exotic hemlock]

why did they remove finn’s coin

[icy umbra]

I've considered that, but I figured I was wasting pressure. I didn't realize I was helping you.

[exotic hemlock]

was it too strong?

[latent apex]

His gem?

[exotic hemlock]

yeah

[latent apex]

That thing was broken

Made finn skip neutral, recovering, gave him combos everything rlly

Just imagine ur a zoner character on the other side of scoobys mansion and a cracked up 12 year old throws a yellow gem towards ur frontal lobe and ur suddenly locked into a combo

[latent apex]

Honestly there's only so much advice i can give since ive only experienced one side of the MU

[exotic hemlock]

LMFAO

[icy umbra]

All advice is appreciated. The gaps in my knowledge in some matchups is astonishing sometimes.

[exotic hemlock]

yeah i didn’t play him that much in beta

[latent apex]

I think the garnet i struggled the most against was hero sword but that was like week 1 season 1

And i still won

[latent apex]

On top of that imagine that you finally make him use all his money and now he has no gems

So he starts throwing half eaten apples at you

[icy umbra]

I thinking about the amount of times I've saved a Finns life by shooting rockets at them off stage...

[tiny comet]

.

[exotic hemlock]

buff garnet

[drowsy arch]

is it nerf ganet or buff garnet

lol

so if a finn is recovering we don't shoot projectiles right? lol

[exotic hemlock]

the mojo jojo map must be amazing for finn

or annoying

[icy umbra]

Seems so. I didn't know sidw special auto tracked, let alone it can lock on to projectiles, I didn't know shooting projectiles at finn made him stronger.

When I get home, I'm gonna actually read other characters abilities

[drowsy arch]

finn is a complete character xD

[fallen owl]

☹️

[exotic hemlock]

i wish i could know the orb hitbox

[tiny comet]

Ima be honest

Some garnets be spamming nair only not even trying to follow up either

Like they bugs bunny

Thats not going to make you win lol

[exotic hemlock]

yeah i saw that shi

like you know you can side air too right?

[latent apex]

U can shoot if they have no specials left

Or if they're bad

[radiant stirrup]

Garnet has too much end lag And her attacks are so slow

[drowsy arch]

her nair is pretty godlike now

approach and dodge read with nair

[lapis lynx]

Garnet nair my beloved

[drowsy arch]

ground up attack is pretty safe and it's even faster than jab btw

[gusty umbra]

those are the real gamers

[drowsy arch]

hahahah

[radiant stirrup]

Give her more kill options

[drowsy arch]

dammit lol sry

neut punch is love xD

[radiant stirrup]

Either she needs to be quicker or don't have half her move set be so punishable in wiffs

[wicked tusk]

there are already so much options

• clap
• neutral attack
• gauntlet launcher
• air side attack
• marker

all depend on oppt's damage %

[drowsy arch]

I think garnet is in an amazing spot rn and she's balanced imo

her only drawback is her recovery, but she is a heavy weight, so that's fine imo

[wicked tusk]

i think you're new here
keep your fists close and punch them all more often
she is already good and fun to played even before she got buffed

[radiant stirrup]

New to the discord not to game and garnet, I have over thousand wins with her. She's underpowered compared to her beta version

[radiant stirrup]

I agree she feels balanced, but when fighting other characters that aren't, it's a struggle most times

[drowsy arch]

ya compared to beta I can agree with what ur saying

but tbh i don't want garnet to b on the level of some of the S chars (like batman)

because i think that's way overtuned

rick and morty are NOT fun to fight this patch omg lol..... it's insane

[wicked tusk]

i get that the reasons
but so far Garnet is in a good spot right now (probably better than previous seasons)
of course i want they keep buff to garnet, but we have to think carefully if we don't want to make Garnet becomes OP like Finn, Shaggy etc

"she feels balanced, but when fighting other characters that aren't, it's a struggle most times"
Understandable, this is why patience and learn match up are the most importants imo
of course the progression could be more frustrating than when we main with better char than Garnet

[echo solstice]

Hey ive been trying to learn combos with Garnet as of recently and i'm just wondering how do you guys combo with grounded up special when it's not on cooldown? I've seen some Garnets do it but I still haven't figured it out

[wicked tusk]

marker combo?

[echo solstice]

Yes I believe so

[radiant stirrup]

I feel like I cant do any combos with her. It's either she's slow to get her moves off or have to much end lag, or other characters are quicker to dodge and dodge distance

[drowsy arch]

the combo is only guaranteed when chars are above 75

[jolly flax]

I feel the same way but I also agree with Uparazi. Like she is balanced and you have to be patience and know what to do in a bad matchup. She definitely better than beta or previous season and we don’t want her too strong where they nerf her hard. But I feel like some moves even though you are patience or try to counter a whiff don’t work bc her hurt box is huge and the start up to a move or an end lag to a move just ruins your plan. Like I will hear the gauntlet noise but it didn’t come out bc my opponent hit me much faster and I’m like what the frick. Like she needs to be a little faster in my opinion and have a little less end lag and I mean like little less end lag. This is just my opinion and sorry if I’m wrong about anything.

[drowsy arch]

set shaggy dummy to 75 damage. Do jab1, up special (ball), jab1 up special (clap)

[drowsy arch]

jab1, gauntlets, ground bounce, iad sair 1, jab1, jab2 up attack/shoulder bash is real

[radiant stirrup]

Have any other true combos with her?

[radiant stirrup]

I Agree with you

[drowsy arch]

down tilt max distance leads into a jab combo (follow up with the combo i just mentioned)

[wicked tusk]

I agree about "faster" thing, not only to Garnet, but from the game itself
just need slightly increase to game speed, this patch they only increased the speed from "on the air" aspect

[drowsy arch]

her B&B is nair, ground bounce, sair 1, jab1, jab2 up attack.... then I do a dodge read with either sair 1, sair 2 or hold nair (sometimes I get a rebounce if they dodge down and I do the whole combo over again lol)

[latent apex]

Garnet is fine where she is

Maybe a bit more whiff on nair i think

[drowsy arch]

her main combo starter is nair and it already just got buffed.

[wicked tusk]

don't be like Steven at least, i think i'm fine with her nair right now

[drowsy arch]

do u guys know any combos off of jab1, jab2 down attack, ground bounce?

i don't know what to follow up the ground bounce with

or what's a good option for a dodge read if there is no follow up?

[wicked tusk]

jabjab --> gauntlet launcher --> dodge cancel ---> jabjab --> Clap / neutral attack / up attack

nair can used as starter combo too

[drowsy arch]

well u can't do a double ground bounce now

[wicked tusk]

and also dash attack, but it's kinda random or not 100% that your will get bounced from that kick

[drowsy arch]

Ohhhhhh dash attack is a good idea

that's something i haven't tried in the lab yet

[wicked tusk]

but if it's too far, you only have to dash attack again

[drowsy arch]

there are some reverse IAD sair combos too LOL... the execution is too high for me tho

what do u guys edge guard with? specifically below the edge of platform....

[latent apex]

Nah it needs like just a few more frames of whiff

Very few

[exotic hemlock]

it was good before

[wicked tusk]

i'll be glad if they'll do that
but we'll see

[exotic hemlock]

but they made it better im not sure why

[drowsy arch]

i really love the dair fast fall buff

the move is way more usable now

[tiny comet]

👀

[tiny comet]

You forgot dair charge hit ground and thunder clap and i’d argue up air attack is better than air sair sair in killing

[icy umbra]

small patch General Bugfixes

Fixed an issue where knockback would not be applied properly near corners of terrain
Fixed an issue where knockback would not be applied properly during trade hits under certain conditions

not the only thing in the patch but we been talking about this specifically

reading the other characters moves and abilities is just making me angry

[gusty umbra]

so real

[icy umbra]

i didnt know batman had weakened built in, and that bugs rocket and safe broke armor

[tiny comet]

Uhhh

Safe doesnt rocket does

[icy umbra]

it says "the safe can be hit, hurling it into enemies and breaking armor"

[tiny comet]

Finds clip*

[icy umbra]

also, it says in the description of safe that its destroyed by moves that break armor. there is no reason that 2 stacks of rythm or dash attack with 2 fast 2 block isnt breaking safe.

im just saying that thats what the moves says.

if it doesnt, thats good.

[tiny comet]

They changed safes properties in a previous patch

[icy umbra]

so they just didnt change the text

[tiny comet]

Which why armor break moves doesnt break safe

It has like singular seperate hit points

[lapis lynx]

Yeah, safe takes a certain amount of hits to break

[tiny comet]

Hit it with 3 seperate moves it’ll break

But in the beginning neutral punch destoryed it out right

[lapis lynx]

[tiny comet]

Till they changed it

I dont have the clip

I sold

[lapis lynx]

Man.

[slim musk]

Has anyone had connection problems lately in the last update?

[icy umbra]

yes

[slim musk]

It's really bad
Sometimes my moves gets ignored completely

[tiny comet]

Knockback is whats getting ignored

[slim musk]

Both

If i launch the gauntlets i heard the sound but my move gets ignored

[drowsy arch]

have u guys been hit by safe while u have 3 stack rhythm?

it'sk inda hilarious and it just bounces off like ur a wall LOL

[tiny comet]

Shrugs any who catch these hands

[drowsy arch]

is batman the best char right now? thoughts?

[lapis lynx]

He's definitely the best character in 1s

He was already good before, and he only got better this season

[tiny comet]

Agenda by pfg

[latent apex]

@icy umbraok another thing i just noticed u do

u are absolutely terrified of using ur dodge meter

[icy umbra]

no, i was hitting dodge i swear. i was ready for jab dair this time.

i swear im hitting dodge

[latent apex]

nah not just then

a lot of the times i just walk towards you with completely untrue stuff because ur not dodging away or trying to create distance

so if i see that ill just keep pressing buttons and get free dmg off

[tiny comet]

👀

[icy umbra]

what are you doing that isnt true?

[latent apex]

hold on ill clip it and watch it back maybe

but a lot of the times when i finish a combo i see you dont dodge out

so i just dodge in with a sair or if im grounded i uptilt

[dark quiver]

banana guard actually feels better than garnet 💀

[tiny comet]

I mean

His sair has better knockback than 100% of her kit

And no buggy moves

[tiny comet]

• his was nerfed and its still better, “im not complaining im just saying”

[dark quiver]

he got consistency buffs and combo buffs this patch, and hes actually more fluid now

[tiny comet]

Potassium goat

We need new discord mvs emotes

[dark quiver]

mfw i get matched against flacoco

[dark quiver]

i'm going to keep complaining cause why does garnet have endlag on 80% of her kit while other high tier bruisers get to cook

[lapis lynx]

Banana my goat

[drowsy arch]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas I just got into masters

solo queued 2v2s

[solar flame]

I'm getting pieced up by Garnets now, i'm so happy for ya'll

[fleet birch]

RIP

[tiny comet]

[lapis lynx]

[fleet birch]

Shaggy kick in 2v2 should be banned ngl

shets insane

[drowsy arch]

it is

it's really dumb lol

[fleet birch]

and how when it hits one person it like freezes the whole game

makes it even worse

[drowsy arch]

I KNOW

that drives me crazy on all moves

but it's really bad with shaggy kick

[fleet birch]

does reindogs spinning move have like 20 attacks

cuz i swear it hits no matter how well you dodge

[drowsy arch]

side special or sair? xD

i think sair is 3 hits

[fleet birch]

spinning air dash

sam jack is so broken in 2v2

he doesnt even have to think about who hes attacking

[calm tide]

Garnets clap is MEATY

Thunderclap of doom

[fleet birch]

bro i hate samruai jack

hes literally cancer

[exotic hemlock]

as a garnet main nair is too good and it feels scummy

[drowsy arch]

#clips message

[fleet birch]

Amethyst 4 mvs 🥺

[jolly flax]

How does one deal with lebron

Like it he just spams his neutral and the basketballs and that’s it like he doesn’t even fight

[exotic hemlock]

yo just watched you fight chfy, crazy good fight

you’re gonna get her nair nerfed 😭

[jolly flax]

Thank you. I have like McDonald wifi. I almost won that. I realized after I lost that I shouldn’t have been so aggressive at the end

[jolly flax]

No please I’m hoping that they don’t

[tiny comet]

Get that third stack asap

I like to charge up neutral punch if he wants to follow up on his balls too

Use up special ball to stuff his air approaches and follow up

And air bash helps vs lebron

Sair isnt the best vs lebron

But you gotta maintain dance

When and when not to dance

Do not get hit by his up air and ball-less sair and side special

Let him whiff shoulder charge wait for him to dodge then punish cause garnet cant reliably punish his bash unless he’s out of meter

[tiny comet]

Playin finn in 2s is gamethrowing no cap

Rant*

[tiny comet]

Funny how i made a garnet switch to finn after i said that and beat them both times in 2s

[icy umbra]

@gusty umbra GGs

[gusty umbra]

ggs

[tiny comet]

Well since neutral punch is bugged which means its going to get buffed

[icy umbra]

after a lot of games, ive come to the conclusion that electric groove is not needed, and garnet doesnt need help killing vertically, but i miss last stand for killing of the side.

[slim stone]

Garent feels reallt nicd

[tiny comet]

Welp i think down special going to get reworked guys

Before we get any other changes

[gusty umbra]

LOL

[gusty umbra]

dawg

i’m getting off after this one

@icy umbra

[icy umbra]

lol i keep running into you and the rank 4 globally batman

[gusty umbra]

i literally watched

i beat him earlier

2-0

yeah ggs, there’s only like 5 people online

[icy umbra]

ggs

[exotic hemlock]

funny thing about lebron he sucks in water tower and now sky arena

those platforms suck

and those balls get sucks bouncing on top

[exotic hemlock]

the annoying think about neutral punch is shaggys can hit from behind but our big fists can’t

[icy umbra]

@neat igloo GGs

[gusty umbra]

@neat igloo dawg

my game crashed😭

IT CRASHED MY NEXT MATCH TOO

💀

[tiny comet]

Sold via servers

[gusty umbra]

lost 20 rp and got disconnect penalty

[exotic hemlock]

garnet and buggs is a crazy matchup lmfao

just made a diamond ragequit

everyone conceding i feel bad

[neat igloo]

@gusty umbra @icy umbra gg levi and I assumed so after it started loading the next game and then went to the menu

[exotic hemlock]

how to fight batman

i bubble his batarang but it mean nothing cause he has a kick to approach

[spring mason]

Hey guys, I'm new here. I've been playing some Garnet recently, and though I like the character it's clear that the devs aren't putting as much time into finetuning her as they are other characters. For a character that only has two (very slow) projectiles, surprisingly limited reach, and a cooldown stance (effectively) she should be faster. Her first ground melee attack should have more reach and her air melee first attack needs to execute quicker. I drop combos because both her special projectiles have too much startup as do some of her regular moves. She also needs to be able to cancel out of more of her moves. She is essentially a boxer and the ability to cancel/weave more than other characters would help give her an edge that she is sorely lacking. The patch didn't do much to help her. I got Power Puff Girls doing two moves before I can get off one, lol!

[lapis lynx]

She got some good buffs this patch

[slim musk]

Yup

[lapis lynx]

And her new perk opens up new options

[exotic hemlock]

sometimes you have to remember she is slow, with characters like powerpuff girls and batman you can’t just go head first you have to punish, you’ll be doing most of your approaches with nair or side special off cooldown, as for her spark it’s gotten better with the new perk as it has more utility and could help people stay off you

so essentially you shouldn’t just be jabbing because that jab is slow and can not hit anyone

you should just nair and then jab

her off cooldown moves are gonna be your friend as her up special can kill anyone above 90 percent and can easily be follow by jab

[fleet birch]

Also do 1v1 with a good garnet player u learn a lot from that

[spring mason]

I've been testing the new perk out but I still think she needs to be quicker to take full advantage of it, especially as she doesn't have the reach or projectile arsenal of other characters. I use nair and melee into cooldown up/special a lot but a lot of other characters have 360 attacks, quicker projectiles, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm still winning matches with her, but she needs to be quicker and have a few more tools.

I also recognize that I still have a lot to learn with Garnet.

[tiny comet]

You can always rocket fist the batterang too stalemate it

[exotic hemlock]

true

it’s just that combo that’s annoying

[tiny comet]

If he slides or dashes you can down attack charge it too

[exotic hemlock]

thanks for tip

[fleet birch]

Then he runs up and does that slide kick 😭

[icy umbra]

I lied, thunderclap the goat

[tiny comet]

Its very niche

[fleet birch]

better than her other perks tho tbh

[tiny comet]

Think ive never seen so many garnets focus on aiming up special or dancing for that matter

[exotic hemlock]

kinda wish our bubbles just shot right back

[fleet birch]

wait

what bubbles

[lapis lynx]

Neutral special bubbles projectiles

[tiny comet]

[lapis lynx]

I recently learned that meeseeks and Smith's clone count as projectiles

[exotic hemlock]

i’m still mad down tilt can’t damage them

[tiny comet]

[lapis lynx]

"Sorry in advance for all the punching"

[exotic hemlock]

they’re calling garnet busted

[versed bronze]

she top 6-10 for sure

[versed bronze]

@slim pawn
You talking so much stupid things i can't stand it

Come here xD

[autumn eagle]

Garnet is really good now

[loud light]

Extremely good

[dense nebula]

i’m so glad PFG looked at garnets hair and thought it was an okay thing to have

[versed bronze]

Garnet barely have weaknesses now

Like
Outside being a bit of combo food she doesnt have one thing that she bad at

[autumn eagle]

And doomers still say shes mid

[young stag]

cuz she is

[autumn eagle]

In what planet

Nair has literally no endlag, comboes, she has simple and extremely effective kill confims alongside other moves having incredibly low endlag

[young stag]

could beat any garnet with beetlejuice and i got 8 wins with him

[autumn eagle]

How good were the Garnets you were fighting

[versed bronze]

Bro probably gold 5 and talking
Dont interact with him chaos

[autumn eagle]

Alr

[young stag]

im literally master but okay

[versed bronze]

Master my ass

Show then

[young stag]

i dont think i wanna do that to ur ass

[versed bronze]

XD

[young stag]

k hold up lemme get on ps app

[versed bronze]

Gm 85
But ok

[young stag]

i dont got it on my phone so i gotta use blue client thingy

wait a bit

[versed bronze]

Just give me your nick

Will check it myself

[young stag]

shadowloonyYT

[versed bronze]

It doesnt even show on tracker xD

[young stag]

then ur doing something wrong

wait till i can acess my screenshots

[versed bronze]

Oke

@slim pawn

Ok
Anwsering you

No
Jab is not her main tool
Jab is there as an combo extender, bcs it's only move that is really mediocore

[slim pawn]

What did I say that stupid I spoke my opinion on her and the experience I have with her lol

[versed bronze]

About cooldowns
She is only character int the game that benefits from using cooldown every time you have them

Elbow and clap are both superb moves

That you need to have avilable entire time to Play her properly

[slim pawn]

If jab isn’t her main tool then what is? Cause as far as I can tell yes it is a combo extender but also a combo starter and most of the match is spend on the ground so you’ll most likely throw out a grounded jab than other other move

[versed bronze]

First mistake
You dont play garnet on ground