Garnet

[versed crown]

artificially strong

[flat basin]

Ngl that would be better than using n air

Could be goated

[crisp bronze]

im playing 5% one

[tiny comet]

5% op op

Free damage free sustain

[novel phoenix]

Man if eletric groove was a guaranteed stack after applying shock, it would be such a good perk upgrade for garnet

[opaque sentinel]

I am gonna try to get better with her I failed most of my 2v2's with her last night cause I am not use to her moves at all.

[tiny comet]

Avoid air up special

Unless your doing a combo

Imo

[opaque sentinel]

I did a flying ability I didn't know she had and elimnated someone with it lol.

I am gonna go to training and learn her moves more.

[lavish herald]

I dont even think this would even make it her go-to perk, but it would save it from being useless. Idk why they thought it was a good idea to have a perk that requires a certain setup to have a CHANCE at working, especially when the benefit isn't that crazy.

[novel phoenix]

Thats what im sayin bro, making it a chance n not even telling us the percentage is wild 😭

[jolly flax]

It sad to see how garnet can’t do anything against characters like bugs or Wonder women

[rigid storm]

Garnets ground neutral punch is one hell of a move when charged

Especially since you get armor for a short duration

[eternal lake]

Yeah I use that a lot to catch people out

[buoyant shard]

huh

i thought she had lost all of her armor

[eternal lake]

Everything but the ground neutral

[buoyant shard]

welp just fought a ww

that was not fun

[waxen karma]

You can keep up but only to lose

[buoyant shard]

banana guards and shaggy duos killing lately

[hushed needle]

I'm gonna celebrate if they manage to ever nerf that stupid gremlin gizmo

[crisp bronze]

arya/gizmo probably strongest 1v1 characters rn

[wicked tusk]

So far Black Adam is the one that can counter Garnet from 2v2 perspective

[hushed needle]

black adam is insane

at combos

[pearl dust]

am i tweaking or does dtilt have even less range now

[somber bramble]

Wow yall really out here using your star at the bottom of the map and Recreateing Bowser side special LLLLLLLLLLL

[lavish herald]

Bowser side special is a W

[hard gazelle]

Are you supposed to be electrified only while standing IN the zone or after walking through it

Referring to ground up special I mean

[wicked tusk]

With Garnet, i used to spam jump + neutral attack, good range imo

[crisp bronze]

5% seems decent on her

Bcs she dealing a lot of damage with moves
And she tanky

[hard gazelle]

My bad that's not what I asked, I'm just talking about the default move

[crisp bronze]

Sorry
I taged wrong person

Ye
They changed It
You need to stand on it to elecrify

That's why i preffer 5% perk instead of the electric one

[tiny comet]

Tagging wrong ppl, sus

😏

[tiny comet]

Where the garnet hot takes?

[crisp bronze]

she is not bad

people just suck at playing her

[tiny comet]

7/10 take

[wicked tusk]

She's fun so far, i rather play her in 2v2, good in disrupting with jump + neutral attack
But i not used to down + special move (star teleport) because i always forgot about that move

[spiral sinew]

How does Garnet deal with Harley?

[wicked tusk]

i used to spam jump neutral attack
I guess you really annoy by harley slide --> heads up --> batter up combo
And jump + down attack (boxing ringer )

[idle hearth]

guys

her combos are crazy wtf

[wicked tusk]

I felt that too against pro harley, but dodge that two combos are really hard imo as long you used to jump from her slide

[idle hearth]

am i crazy or cant she just kill every char in the game on like 60-70% with her "jab" or ftilt idk what to call it

with a true combo

which works on every single percent

and deals 40-50 dmg

[wicked tusk]

Garnet, let me guess
side + neutral attack ---> side + special attack (after launching rocket gauntlet) --> when you and oppt on the air, side attack?

[idle hearth]

im talking about that ftilt (without the last hit) into dodge fair one

[novel phoenix]

I be forgetting too, but her marker perk helps with that since it just automatically places the star wherever the gauntlets explode

[idle hearth]

idk how to describe it

do you guys know the tech where you can do aeriels on the ground?

with this tech

you can do combos which do 40-50 dmg

and it works on every percent

AND KILLS

wait maybe i can record it

[wicked tusk]

send it to the #clips then copy its link message into this channel

[novel phoenix]

yeah i think its called IAD, i find it hard to pull off mid game tho with the dodge meter it burns 😭

[wicked tusk]

i consider to use it if i buy her permamently, so far i haven't buy yet and use 5% perk

[idle hearth]

#clips message

#clips message

2nd one is the kill confirm

on the first combo on 0 % i forgot to have perks so it does more damage actually xd

its not really that hard too so hf guys

oh and its def worth to lab

there gotta be more potential with it

i havent tested anything

[wicked tusk]

hmmm, i tried use that combo with dodge meter sometimes before, with Garnet and WW, it was really hard for me because when you do the dodge meter, the oppt will also dodge so that combos won't work

[buoyant shard]

man playing against batman is never fun

[idle hearth]

its really hard to test if its true or not because of the buggy training mode

but i can get it consistently on real people

[tiny comet]

Ima look at those clips

[idle hearth]

and real people are most likely to Mash dodge

right?

Oh and i kinda weas wrong

it doesnt work that well on like 130%

oops

[tiny comet]

After i reach 20k

😏

[pearl dust]

TIL gizmo's arrows arent affected by neutral special

unfortunate

[idle hearth]

now i need to figure out how to approche safely

playing against zoners is so hard

[pearl dust]

i think the 1v1s hitlag buff hurt garnet more than anything

[idle hearth]

ngl i dont feel it

[pearl dust]

her moves were already kind of on the laggier side but now its hard to even connect a lot of hits

[idle hearth]

wait nvm ofcourse i dont feel it i never played garnet before this patch

[wicked tusk]

Gizmo's umbrella is more annoying imo
It's like against ww's shield (side special attack)

[pearl dust]

yeah its heinous

esp since it lingers for so long

gizmo is not a good mu for garnet but atp who is LMAO

[wicked tusk]

GIzmo's car ig it can avoided, it just sometimes i thought i got hit because my own mistake from my movement

[buoyant shard]

you can hit him off the car with the rocket punches

okay so arya and harley are not very easy to deal with garnet..

learned that in a bad way

[tiny comet]

So uh

Why cant i send back reindog projectiles

👀

[pearl dust]

i think the main issue with those matchups is that those characters like to approach from above and garnet isnt really packing any good anti airs

clap comes close but its conditional and nair feels a little bit too narrow to be throwing out like that

i also think she suffers from an insane case of mewtwo syndrome

moves that feel like disjoints actually inflate her hitbox

and that is NOT fun against rushdowns like that

[idle hearth]

oh god

please dont give me some ptsd

i mained m2 in ssbu

[steel fossil]

every single one of you plays the same

0 substance

0 braincells

[tiny comet]

Womp womp

[steel fossil]

the fact that you wake up in the morning, get on this game, and select garnet of all characters baffles me

just go play solitaire or watch paint dry or sum

[tiny comet]

Womp womp

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-garnet-garnet-steven-universe-no-no-no-gif-25445495

[tiny comet]

Something special about getting hit out of moves while being behind said character 😭

I just wanna dodge out of move without breaking garnet

[idle hearth]

#combos message

kill confirm with her downward projectile

at 35...

funny character i must say

NAIR KILL CONFIRM BTW

#combos message

Dair kill confirm

#combos message

Down Smash kill confirm

#combos message

Downward rocket into dash attack kills at 100 ish % too

At 100 ish percent side attack into nair one into side attack into up air kills

and idk why i didnt know that but down attack into up special (the clap) is a kill confirm

[buoyant shard]

did you just come here to be a pain?

[flint oar]

So I just saw something about Garnet’s summer costume, being a Twitch stream reward, but it’s already over? I saw no mention of it. Is this all true?

[woeful goblet]

I think it was mentioned together with the re launch

[wicked tusk]

I officially bought Garnet permanently, hopefully she still fun to play for longer

[fading walrus]

This is Garnet, back together
And I'm never goin' down at the hands of the likes of you
Because I'm so much better
And every part of me is saying, "Go get her"
The two of us ain't gonna follow your rules
Come at me without any of your fancy tools
Let's go, just me and you
Let's go, just one on two
Go ahead and try to hit me if you're able
Can't you see that my relationship is stable?
I can see you hate the way we intermingle
But I think you're just mad 'cause you're single
And you're never gonna stop what we made together
We are gonna stay like this forever
If you break us apart, we'll just come back newer
And we'll always be twice the gem that you are
I am made of love, love
Love, love, love
This is who we are
This is who I am
And if you think you can stop me, then you need to think again
'Cause I am a feeling
And I will never end
And I won't let you hurt my planet
And I won't let you hurt my friends
Go ahead and try to hit me if you're able
Can't you see that my relationship is stable?
I know you think I'm not something you're afraid of
'Cause you think that you've seen what I'm made of
But I am even more than the two of them
Everything they care about is what I am
I am their fury, I am their patience
I am a conversation
I am made of love, love
And it's stronger than you
Love, love, love
And it's stronger than you
Love, love, love
And it's stronger than you
Love, love, love

[tiny comet]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-garnet-garnet-steven-universe-no-no-no-gif-25445495

[crisp bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-garnet-garnet-steven-universe-no-no-no-gif-25445495

[wicked tusk]

"I am their fury, I am their patience
I am a conversation"
That line always reminds me from eliminate ost

[flint oar]

Well, I never saw it. Never saw any mention of it in-game, not on the announcements login page, or at Garnet's variants section. The variants section is horrendously done, why can't it show all the costumes the character has, whether they are currently available or not?? I have Arya, I go into her variants section and don't see her Water Dancer variant, but it's in the store. It's really weird and inconsistent! Is there any chance Garnet's outfit will be available again for purchase or is it gone forever?

[woeful goblet]

Knowing that they are greedy af it will probably be available to purchase soon. If it makes you feel any better imo the skin isn't that great anyway. I think it is just a recolor from her base variant

[flint oar]

I thought it looked like her outfit from the beach party in....(checks...) S1 E18.

[woeful goblet]

Oh you're right I googled and looks like it's not just a recolor

[rich imp]

WHY IS SHE SO BROKEN

[buoyant shard]

broken as in powerful or broken as in bad?

[rich imp]

bro she has some kind of infinit combo wait

[loud oak]

It will most likely be patched

[rich imp]

Im playing against someoen rn imma clip how I am being cooked

[loud oak]

But currently she can combo you from 40 into death lol

Enjoy it for the 7 more days it lasts

[woeful goblet]

how do u do this

[loud oak]

Dude linked it in combos like 3 times

You dash cancel her forward attack on the ground into itself 3 times into up special

[rich imp]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/i2d8zUmEHqAMiLwfd/d1337S3gjn5t?invite=cr-MSxneWYsMjExNzg2NTY4LA

[tiny comet]

Real $#!+

[tiny comet]

Ima just continue punching people into the dirt without that tech

[idle hearth]

the funny thing is

i dont even think that Garnet is that good

so a nerf would be very suprising

her neutral feels incredibly weak in multiple matchups

mostly against the GOOD characters

and touch to death combos arent that special sadly

because almost every good character has them

not saying that Garnets combos are fair. but they would need to nerf her combos WHILE also nerfing like 5 characters at the same time

Oh and you actually need to use recources for her combos and finishers. for example her up b MUST be on cooldown and wasting her projectile is incredibly punishing for her neutral

and she has like 0 get off me options making her disadvantage bad

im realising rn how much she will suffer because of her similar issues mewtwo has

she loses the melee fight vs the top tier bullys

and she loses the zoning battle against good zoners

[crisp bronze]

tbh

take her death touch combos

hive some ranges and better start ups

and make goddam dlight usefull

bcs its now an joke move

[idle hearth]

yeah its very hard to use

ngl i wish that nair would be faster

[crisp bronze]

naaah

nair cant be faster

this move is her best move rn

it have crazy range

[idle hearth]

naaahhh

[crisp bronze]

its 2 hit

[idle hearth]

its good

but not the best

ist slow

[crisp bronze]

its 2 hit high range

[idle hearth]

how do you approche with garnet

[crisp bronze]

with 0 recovery time

[idle hearth]

either use her projectile

[crisp bronze]

or wait

[idle hearth]

or hope that nair works

[true fiber]

Need garnet buff

[crisp bronze]

they need to nerf otcher characters
and she will be fine

[true fiber]

they need to make her down attack on the ground gain armor again

[crisp bronze]

then people will again complain about armor

like on ww rn

bcs its cancer af

the only thing she needs are fastest start ups on moves to compete vs top tiers

[true fiber]

She was never good enough for people to complain about her in my opinion

Wonder Woman just op rn lol

[crisp bronze]

ye

if garnet gets her shields

she would be ww

but even better

xD

learn to play garnet guys
then talk about balance

[rich imp]

Broher she is broken she can combo to 60 without you being able to doge

[crisp bronze]

broken
nah
she have very hard time to actualy hit that 1 hit to combo you for 60

its not like arya where you have 1 frame start up and you can combo for 50 with it

[pearl dust]

somebody got rocked by a quickplay garnet main

[buoyant shard]

ugh i fought a harley that kept spamming storm clouds emoji

harley is such a pain

[crisp bronze]

Is annoying but you can Play around it

Bait shot
Wait for triple kick
And you have window to punish

And Play mostly in air to avoid bullsht slide

[grand river]

Is Garnet's up special any good, the electric projectile? I've played her a lot but I still don't know how to use it

it seems weird since you have to be parked on it to get the electric bonus and it doesn't do any damage unless the opponent is standing on it when it dispels

[crisp bronze]

Well
Best thing about It is how fast It casting
You can interupt some attacks with It

But im using It just to lay around
And mayby i will punch enamy while on it

And mayby It will explode when they on it

Tbh im using It off CD to have clap all the time

[grand river]

since I rarely ever use the up special, I don't really use the clap, is it better than her up attack?

[crisp bronze]

Jab into clap killing Harley at 80 from the ground

[reef ore]

as a garnet main in beta, is she still worth using? am debating going back to her.

[crisp bronze]

Well
She is diffrent than in beta
And she still is not too tier

She is now closer to Shaggy in gameplay
Than to superman

[reef ore]

she feels different. the combat speed change hit her hard

oh and a question

[crisp bronze]

The thing that changed her is removing her armors

[reef ore]

how do you perform her jab cancel?

[reef ore]

yeah that's one of the first things i noticed

[crisp bronze]

Tbh im not the right person to Ask
Im sadly not a combo freak and i dont use it

But

If you want free combo with Jan

Jab

Try to use jab > elbow > dash jab > elbow > dash jab > clap

[reef ore]

what is elbow?

and is clap up special?

[crisp bronze]

Side special

After using gaunt

Clap is up special
After using the electric projectile

[hard gazelle]

clap is awesome

shoulder is alright

[crisp bronze]

Yep

[crisp bronze]

*shoulder is alrightbest garnet move

[hard gazelle]

legit I don't see the purpose

I'll try it this match

[crisp bronze]

Cast It in the air
And tilt It up or down

You will zoom half of the stage

[hard gazelle]

That's gotta be a bug right???

[crisp bronze]

No

Its the same with Shaggy

And half of the stage is mayby too big

But you will dash far

Test it and tell me what you think

[hard gazelle]

Kinda worked

Didn't go as far as I was hoping but it's a little hard to angle and use it at the same time imo

[crisp bronze]

You need to use sidespecial
And when start up animation is on
You need to tilt It up or down
And you will go up or down

I have even funnier interatcion tho

Cast It on the ground

And tilt up

[hard gazelle]

Hmm

[crisp bronze]

Hmm?

[hard gazelle]

Still not really seeing the use

Regular 2s was way too chaotic for me to try it

[crisp bronze]

Its an aproche tool
Its good disengage
It can be used to gain momentem
And its move in true combos

If it was not 2 AM in my country
I would love to show you in spar

[hard gazelle]

I get it now

[neon epoch]

Anybody else wish that garnet’s electricity bubble exploded on contact

[novel phoenix]

Yeah or even just explode faster

[tiny comet]

I use it to gatekeep edges sometimes, climb up if you want to then boom

[wicked tusk]

After i spent a week played with Garnet, this is my tier list of Garnet's oppts diff from my exp so far
Hard : Bugs Bunny, Finn, Gizmo, Steven, Taz
Medium : WW, BG, Superman, Harley, Joker, Batman, Rick
Easy : Shaggy, Lebron, Jason, Stripe

I put WW in medium, because i haven't fight a lot against ww, like 3-4 times, 50/50 win rate against her iirc

[grim bane]

How tf are people not fighting tons of WW

Every match is WW, Gizmo, Bugs, Harley, or BA

With an occasional Joker in between

[thick basin]

Who’s the best garnet in here

[grim bane]

Me

[thick basin]

Wanna spar? Like a best of 3 or 5

Not now but in general I’m tired of being doodoo

[grim bane]

No chances are, if you're any good, I'll get smoked
I completely lied with my previous statement I dont even play Ganret

[analog lynx]

Who is the worst character in the game and why is it Garnet : D

Says a very salty and coping Garnet main

[thick basin]

Lmaoooooooooo😭

[wicked tusk]

I rather play Garnet in 2v2, she's very good for disruption from her jump + neutral attack

[thick basin]

Unfortunately she’s not very successful in 1s rn but she’s definitely a 2s goat

[wicked tusk]

yea but she is not really bad 1v1, it just really difficult to played and have a lot of bad matchup, that list that i made based on 1v1 mode

[thick basin]

Imo her attack startups are just too slow to contest fr rn. Her sings slower so you really gotta know when the projectiles coming. I wish she was a lil faster and a lil less telegraphed but that’s just my gripes

[wicked tusk]

My goodness, i forgot about that her sing can protect her from projectiles, can it protect her from Bug's safe?
Speaking of her sing, i rather use it when i ringout my oppt

[thick basin]

Only small projectiles, anything medium+ will just hit her out of it. And I use sing on ring outs too, sometimes I use it to bait but it takes a second or so to stop the animation so it’s not optimal unless you know your timing

Side jab combo doesn’t kill like how it used to and that sucks as well. She has like 3 consistent kill options and none are from her normal grounded attacks alone

[tiny comet]

Some small projectiles get stopped but cant get reflected

Which is buns

[wicked tusk]

That should be enough imo, it'll be op if it can reflect them all

[tiny comet]

Naaaa

[tiny comet]

Just want the consistency of small projectiles

[jolly flax]

Bro I’m so done with Harley

Garnet feels so slow like ughhh

[woeful goblet]

is it good to run thats flamable doc perk?

[wicked tusk]

It's a good one for Garnet, i always run that perk
Even better if you get a teammate that pick mage char

[woeful goblet]

yeah just bought it and seems good since we need to spam our missile and up special anyway

[cold arrow]

I feel that

[crisp bronze]

Bro didnt Play velma 💀

[crisp bronze]

As long as there are no mmr ranks and rankeds as long we cant tell

[crisp bronze]

I agree
Jab seems like It should come out much faster

Her only fast attack is sair

[crisp bronze]

Jab into clap is one of the best kill confirms in the game
Killing light characters at 90

[tiny comet]

Honestly the harley match up wouldnt be bad her punches couldnt be crouched or slide under

I just shoulder charge or down attack slides

And dodge sair, harley’s dair

Harleys will spam nair hammer wheel but its kinda easy to dodge and punish just gotta focus up a bit

Still harley the hardest match for me, i can deal with wonderwoman easy

Dont get me started on bugs spamming neutral air like its gone out of style

[wicked tusk]

What i annoy about Harley is her slide, when you get hit by her slide ---> get launched ---> Harley bat
That last move it's kinda a bit hard to avoided

[crisp bronze]

harley is like -1 match up
its winnable
if you hit her 2 times you almost sure next hit will kill her

its for harley favor but its winnable

[buoyant shard]

harley has a weird hitbox

would you believe if i said i saw a harley dodge garnet SHOCKING SLAM by just walking?

[tiny comet]

It happens its week 2/3, anythings possible

[thick basin]

Ik jab into clap and jab into shoulder into sair but im talking just straight up grounded attacks, no specials. Side jab completed kills small enemies at like 140+ on edge and you gotta be directly on edge, up combo kills at like 140+ just depends on how big you are

Forget about jab into down jab lmao I haven’t killed w that yet and that used to be one of my main killing options in beta

[tiny comet]

Dont sleep on neutral jab

Pow!

[crisp bronze]

thats why you are using down jab
kills around 110-120

jab into neutral is decent too

[thick basin]

Jab into neutral is decent I agree, I can’t use it too aften against good guys but trash- decent it’s a good mixup/read if you charge to catch the read

Unfortunately ts telegraphed like a mf

[tiny comet]

Down special in certain parts of the map also good as well

[tiny comet]

Damn didnt even notice they nerfed up special weapon buff too

[crisp bronze]

yep

thats the reson for me to go with 5%

[novel phoenix]

is the 5% perk noticable?

[crisp bronze]

idk
i just know that both her other perks are trash

xd

[reef ore]

i use marker

honestly pretty funny cuz sometimes ill catch enemies off guard with it

also i might be leaving garnet

well not entirely but

to go use stripe for a while

hes so fun

[crisp bronze]

its useless
like in 99% cases

the cheese is too risky

[reef ore]

then again im mostly a casual player

till i learn how to get better that is

[tall turret]

Since when did everyone figure out the cheese

I been gate keeping it for ages 😭

[crisp bronze]

bcs you need 1 digital iq to fall for it

💀

[tall turret]

Nah nah

I mean

Like when did everyone start talking about it

Cuz I accidentally did it like a few days ago and thought I found smt that people didn’t really know abt

[crisp bronze]

bcs its annoying
bot for enamies and teammates at 2s

like
1 guy there literaly ranted player with nick

bcs he missed 3 grabs

with stars outside

xDD

[tall turret]

do you think they are gonna remove it

[crisp bronze]

it will take a while

but probably yea

bcs its stoxic for your teammates if you miss it
and can be very unfun for enamies

[tall turret]

ye i only found out abt it by accident

And then started abusing it a little

but anyone wi some sort of common sense can jus avoid it

[crisp bronze]

like
guys
garnet is not even bad
stop cheesing and learn how to play her god dammit

xD

[crisp bronze]

ye
as i told
you need to have 1 digit iq to fall for it

idk if it can be true with some of her moves

[tall turret]

although I did find out that with enough precision you can place the star so close to the ko zone that the person being grabbed dies and you don’t

Imo they shouldn’t remove it

not when jake can just eat people and jump off

[crisp bronze]

He needs to be literaly at ledge to do it
He need to hit It
And if he miss he will not die for free

I dont like i too
But its less toxic

[tall turret]

true but sacrificing yourself for a free ring out is funny asf

[hushed osprey]

i like playing garnet she's fun

[wheat dirge]

COME ON GUYS JUST STAY GARNET HAVE THAT CAKE BACK THERE like ONG ITS TOO BIG

[hushed osprey]

people say garnet sucks but the real reason people dont play good w her is her mind numbingly huge thighs they just stare at them the entire game

[wheat dirge]

Hell yeah I do is distract me that’s why I pay the wedding dress

[wicked crown]

Jake seems worse ngl

[crisp bronze]

I agree. She have some problems, but she is playable.

[fading fulcrum]

I need the wedding one but her like, idle thing where she literally has her hands ON TOP of her hips?? no that freaks me out a lil

[tiny comet]

I agree

Garnet can beat alot of the cast with no problem

Struggle only against hi tier characters but most characters do anyways

Garnet players just need to focus on spacing and execution

And delay some attacks to predict reactions

Jake and velma are the worst in game and its not even close

[crisp bronze]

Tbh garnet now is like high b/low a tier

If they nerf arya/joker/gizmo
And mayby buff her a bit
She sudently is top tier

[wheat dirge]

IKR garnet know what she doing to these player looking 😏

[tiny comet]

👀

[crystal kelp]

wait does garnet have a infinite

[tiny comet]

Depends on what you call infinite

[tiny comet]

Welp theyre looking into getting rid of loops hide garnet

[woeful goblet]

what are considered as loops

like the jab jab dash jab jab dash?

[tiny comet]

Possibly

Or the dodge cancel tech

👀

[pearl dust]

garnet buffs or i cry

[loud oak]

LOL

[loud oak]

LOOOOOOOL

[buoyant shard]

Garnet

Air/Ground Side Special (Cooldown)
~ Knockback angle made more vertical

[pearl dust]

OH

UHH??

why???

[loud oak]

GARNET HARD BODIED

Lol

[pearl dust]

dude this character already sucked butt at getting kills

why the rocket nerf

OH WAIT this is the elbow charge

uhhh

combo move maybe??

[tiny comet]

Patch notes whereeeee

[delicate gulch]

Chat is this a buff or nerf

[wicked tusk]

Oh the teleport one? i think it's fine
i use the teleport perk

[wicked tusk]

Dunno, just a fix thing like previous patch ig

we'll cook with her after this patch

[pearl dust]

i think a buff

[delicate gulch]

Ok goat

[pearl dust]

it might be easiee to link hits out of the elbow charge but idk

cooldown side special into clap sounds nutty

[loud oak]

Garnet nerfs go crazy

[pearl dust]

at least we didnt get the gizmo treatment

[frozen iris]

Bigger question is if the 15 frame lockout will affect her.

[pearl dust]

OHHH so true

ftilt was her bread and butter

idk

i mean it depends on whether or not its the same move back to back

if not you can probsbly just throw in the first hit of fair between ftilts?

[frozen iris]

Hopefully iad sairs will cover the gap.

[loud oak]

You cant fight fate

[tiny comet]

Interesting

Wish this came with video of said changes

Sair might close the gap

But dair might reset it again

Definitely depends

But

You can still do it with combo down ender just not as consistent of loop

But true

As long as they dont touch up air im fine

Ba getting away w murder again 😂

Interesting patch notes

😂 superman got nerfed lol

Definitely agendas in the patch notes, some good some bad

[frozen iris]

Can confirm in lab, jab to side special(coolodown) loops are dead, but jab-side special to clap works now (need to check with di). can still do jabs into iad sair for combo.

also easier to confirm the side special into sair 1 for aerial combos. Might be a net buff, honestly.

[frozen iris]

You can do sair1-side special into sair1 side special. Just killed a poor Harley at 50 with it.

[novel copper]

Oh geez, they took Garnet's tackle combo... that hurts.

Looks like people are finding workarounds though

[frozen iris]

Honestly, it's fine. You can still use iad sair to cover it, and in 2s you couldn't really pull it off. This mostly just opens up new kill confirms for her. And the 15 frame cd doesn't seem to affect her.

[novel copper]

I actually don't know how to do iads yet, I gotta practice that

I also did do it a lot in 2s, managed to catch both opponents in it and it was so satisfying every time

I'll miss it, but iad should cover it like you said

I just gotta learn it

[frozen iris]

Yeah, they are a pain at first, but just keep trying.

She does still have her other issues, like actually confirming on anyone, but hopefully she'll get something down the road.

You might still be able to do fastfall sair, jab loops as well, but the angle makes you jump back to catch them.

Like, it's not wrong to be sad about losing those routes, not trying to be dismissive, but we could always use some more positivity in this game. And she did get some cool new stuff.

[novel copper]

Oh, wow, iad is much easier than I thought

yeah, I can work with this

I actually kinda like it

forces me to use more variety in my attacks, but they still manage to link together

even dair works

[frozen iris]

My go to is nair(usual neutral tool), ffsair, jab, iad sair, jab, iad sair, jab (down ender), dash attack. You can get up attack from there with a read or bad di.

dair works as a starter too

[formal geyser]

So I only found out Garnet actually has combos like yesterday due to the IAD stuff is that stuff dead now with the fair change or Garnet still fine?

[frozen iris]

What fair change? Do you mean side special?

[formal geyser]

Must have misread then

then I suppose its safe to say her combos are the same lmao

[frozen iris]

She just lost jab into side special loops. But everything else is still there.

And now she might have more vertical combos.

[formal geyser]

sounds good, the side special loops were a lot more infuriating to play vs

[frozen iris]

I'm excited for people who are better than me to lab it out and see.

Lab it out fully, I mean.

[formal geyser]

ye same, I dont play her but I want Garnet to be a cool character

has been the biggest nothing burger of a character for so long so it was such a nice thing to see her have cool combos lol

[novel copper]

Managed to take out a super sweaty WW

Garnet's still got the sauce

[lavish berry]

I dont like the side b changes.

[gleaming estuary]

Why is flashback garnet variant red when its supposed to be light blue?

[tiny comet]

Welp time to hit the lab

[tiny comet]

[frozen iris]

Are you feeling it? Because I am.

[buoyant shard]

well

fought a shaggy 3 times and my game crashed on 3

it was interesting

[frozen iris]

We'll just say you beat him so bad the game ended it for you.

[buoyant shard]

not really

i am not that good at fighting games i just lost 2 times and the game crashed at the 3rd

[tiny comet]

Feeling the beat

[hard gazelle]

I kinda like the new elbow knock back

I'm not a pro but I think it chains a little better

[tiny comet]

Honestly just delay it in the air people explode

I.A.D is E.A.S.Y

[visual scarab]

What tier is garnet

[woeful goblet]

she's mid but like on the lower side

[grim bane]

B tier

[crisp bronze]

My oldge fingers cant handle It on keyboard

[tiny comet]

Fair

[frozen iris]

So here what I'm finding. If the opponent di's inward, then jab to shoulder charge still works, if they di away, then iad-sair covers it. Not sure what happens if they mix it up part way, but really dependent on the 1st jab branch. Either way, you should choose a finisher or branch by the third jab set.

[tiny comet]

My old fingers get the corns

I found that loop still loops with rocket punch instead of cd and can iad till you out stamina combo down ender into cd side special

At higher hps can combo, iad combo, up special, combo clap to kill

[hushed needle]

ngl I only want some better ways of killing someone

because she does not have a lot of viable kill moves ngl

the most viable being the clap

[crisp bronze]

elbow after change killing very good
nlight killing early
clap killing early

kill options are not her problems

UP AIR

[short mica]

up special is pretty good too especially since she has good ways to launch up

[crisp bronze]

up special is so random i will not talk is good kill option

its so easy to di

[short mica]

I mean it's very easy for garnet to burnout an opponent mid-air, so often they can't DI and it's easy to chain them back to back

it's not easy to set-up like a clap kill but it definitely kills at a decent height

[crisp bronze]

Tbh i prefer to use up air then

Even reworked side special (CD) is better

[wheat dirge]

A hard CAKE 😏

[loud oak]

She dont want you goofy

[wheat dirge]

Yes she does

[tiny comet]

She definitely do

[wheat dirge]

IKR been crushing on her since the beta 🪖💀

[tiny comet]

Cuz She thicc

[buoyant shard]

so the fix is here

is garnet doing well with it?

[pearl dust]

is there a garnet charactercord? lowkey curious cause i feel like one homogenized channel wont help me optimize my gameplay with her

[short mica]

I was looking for one but not afaik

there's probably one though, seeing people in the discord mention it. I found a few links but they're all dead and the current one seems private for some reason

So if anyone knows and can share an invite, I'll take one

[pearl dust]

@tawny surge was that you i just fought

if so good games your garnet was crazy

if not uhh

whoops

:^)

[novel copper]

< - >

God, I love Garnet

all you gotta do is tank the hits until they make a mistake

then BAM

punch party

[wicked tusk]

[novel copper]

Got Garnet to Lv15 (again)

[tiny comet]

[wicked tusk]

[tiny comet]

Time to file a complaint tbh

Garnet players really gotta have good fundamentals in order to prosper

Meanwhile characters like bugs, ba, steven, just gotta spam neutral air

Definitely agendas going on here, but when i win no one wants to rematch, they dont want to get punched into the dirt again…..

[wicked tusk]

take a break for while dude, playing a lot with garnet could be rough exp for ya

[tiny comet]

https://tenor.com/view/steven-universe-garnet-garnet-steven-universe-no-no-no-gif-25445495

Must resist urge to… to….. punchhhhh…..

Anyone know how to unlock garnet ringouts badge?

[wicked tusk]

i think i suggest we allowed to send gif picture in #discord-suggestions , nothing is wrong with right?

[wicked tusk]

Dunno, probably in store ig or bp

[tiny comet]

We cant have things 😏

Thanks

[wicked tusk]

What thing what you think about that thing? (jk)

[crisp bronze]

Bro just spam side b on her in air like shaggy

Its the same

If you do this you can throw fundamentals into trash can

[novel copper]

I keep getting party invites 😭

they know I've got the goods

[tiny comet]

Found some sauce

[dapper mist]

There needs to be a way to use Garnet's upb while the lightning bolt is on cooldown; its too important of a move to miss out on bnbs just because the cooldown refreshed, and its frustrating to have to find time to use it to have access to my best vertical combos

[lavish berry]

Still hating her side b changes. What does it even combo into anymore

[novel copper]

always nice fighting with a fellow Garnet on the battlefield

not that many of us

[novel copper]

it happened again

😭

my teammate had my star mark when they died

and I took my opponent into the blast zone after them

they gotta fix this

it's funny but broken

[reef ore]

what happened to garnets jab loop? is it removed? ik it is for every other character but hers is different as it extended with side special

[novel copper]

Her side cooldown had its vertical knockback increased

so we loop with iads instead

oh God

a Garnet from the alpha testing phase

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[frozen iris]

Into sair 1. Form there side b or up b. It even possible to do side b(grounded)-sair 1-side b-sair 1-side b-sair1-up b. Very specific percent and the shaggy was definitely di-ing in. Also have to pray side b doesn't come off cd in that time. Also side b into clap can confirm before 90-100.

[reef ore]

no thats what i was trying to do but it wasnt working

jab loop with iads

side special

[novel copper]

it requires precise timing

try practicing in training

[reef ore]

alr

jab loops with iad still work?

[frozen iris]

If they are di-ing or neutral di, side b still works. Was it a small character?

[reef ore]

no i mean

the side special wasnt coming out

when i was doing the exact same motions with the stick pre patches

[novel copper]

you're supposed to do sair after iad

not side special

[reef ore]

thats why it wasnt working 😭 😭

man i feel stupid

which other characters can still jab loop? post patches ofc

[novel copper]

You mean via the side dodge cheese? I'm pretty sure no one can anymore

I don't see Shaggys doing it so that's a dead giveaway

[trim kite]

im having a lot of fun with garnet but dont know much about what im doing, what are some good combos/kill confirms i should know?

[reef ore]

elbow and slap are great moves

nair has a pretty good hitbox so u can catch ppl off guard and mix up with it

i like to use dair a lot but its more or less a bad habit

[novel copper]

I've almost got it

26 minutes

just gotta keep 1st

😅

doing this exclusively with Garnet is very difficult

😭

so many WWs and Bugs

[novel copper]

I did iiiiiiiiit

[novel copper]

Quote insert:

"Countless Gems were broken here. It was a maelstrom of destruction and death-- BUT WE WON!!"

[tiny comet]

Up attack depending on spacing and recovery

[tiny comet]

You can do up air as well

For memes

Cant put sauce in chat now n days

Might get nerfed

😂

[idle hearth]

ngl i love the side b change

#clips message

[calm thistle]

It’s nice garnet has armor on something finally

[tiny comet]

Another ~change incoming

[harsh talon]

haven't checked in here since beta, how does the garnet council fare recently

[tiny comet]

Same ole same ole nerf garnet 2024-2026

[marble aurora]

She is A tier to me they will never make me hate her

[calm thistle]

Is garnets Marker perk missing or?

[wicked tusk]

Oh yea, i lost it too
What just happened?

[opaque sentinel]

Dance to victory. Her Special is better than any of her taunts.

[harsh talon]

honestly my favorite and go to is and always will be "the clap" up special

especially when someone keeps getting caught in it trying to spike

[tiny comet]

👀

[novel copper]

They probably removed it because of the Ganoncide jank

haven't logged on to confirm for myself yet

[calm thistle]

What is Ganon

[novel copper]

Ganondorf from Smash Bros. His Side B is a chokeslam that can take you off the map.

Originally it would kill both you and your opponent, but in later games that was changed so your opponent can escape.

[calm thistle]

ok

[novel copper]

In Multiversus, if you have the marker perk and fire your gauntlet into the blast zone, you can carry your opponent there and kill them. The kicker is, YOU don't die.

It was absurd cheese. So naturally they removed it to fix it.

[golden sapphire]

If that’s the case then when are the devs disabling Superman air side special and Finn up special cause both of those moves lead to early stock cheese too and they don’t even need a specific perk to be viable

I just hope that the perk change comes with Garnet buffs cause people did that cheese not cause it was the easiest option but literally her only good option compared to to what the rest of the cast can do

[pearl dust]

i really hope they touch up some aspects of garnet when the inevitable star hotfix drops

down tilt having a huge blind spot in the center of garnet bothers me so much

[novel copper]

nah, that's different, those only kill you early if you don't know how to escape the combo

with Garnet's marker perk there was literally no getting out of it, you just die

[golden sapphire]

I’m sorry if you get hit with the HIGHLY TELEGRAPHED marker cheese more than once you deserve it. And it’s not like she can spam it either since both gauntlets and star have long cooldowns

Plus if she wiffs the grab there’s a good chance the garnet player loses a stock

[pearl dust]

idk about highly telegraphed

jab > teleport was a real thing and how most people fished for it

[novel copper]

I've never gotten hit by it myself, nor have I gotten killed early by those combos

I've seen it happen though

usually the Garnet trying to do it will jab you to frame trap before they do the down special, so I just watch out for that

[golden sapphire]

EXACTLY! But how many times have you gotten hit with a Finn kill at 40 just because backpack decided to suck you in from what feels like 30 miles away

[novel copper]

Never. Because I experienced it in the beta and know how to deal with it now.

[pearl dust]

it happens

i get clod's sentiment

[novel copper]

His combos aren't as surefire in the full release, they're totally escapable now

[pearl dust]

a lot of characters get insane tod cheese thats often underlooked

[golden sapphire]

They don’t feel like it. But maybe that’s because I tend to play big body characters

But that’s another discussion

[novel copper]

entirely valid, Garnet's size makes it difficult to avoid stuff

I get caught by Joker's jank fish slap a lot and it pisses me off every time 😭

[golden sapphire]

BRUH I hate that fish

That move is so privileged but Jason’s machete in f-tilt doesn’t deserve a hitbox and instead a hurtbox according to the devs

[novel copper]

loooool

[pearl dust]

REAL

it hurts

a lot of her moves inflate her hurtbox so much for no reason

[golden sapphire]

Yeah and like they addressed that in the beta by making a lot of her moves like f-tilt and up air disjointed, BUT then reverted that in the full release

I think quite literally this character was gutted on a more fundamental level than even Jake

(But not as much as Velma tho)

[cinder shadow]

How much does her song buff increase her speed is it like 5% ?

[golden sapphire]

Yeah it’s negligible

Finn’s boots of speed are just a straight upgrade

Compared to sing’s speed boost

Not even including how the second stack only gives you armor break is so underwhelming especially with how armor is less common now than it was in beta

[cinder shadow]

Yeah I was wondering if the move was worth using or not still not sure

[golden sapphire]

Eh it’s ok to setup between stocks but not much else

[dapper mist]

There's a big difference between an exploit and a combo

[golden sapphire]

there's also a big difference between exploit and a degen strat

[dapper mist]

Juggling is not a degen strat

[golden sapphire]

I was referring to star abuse as degen and not an exploit

[dapper mist]

It was an exploit of an oversight

[golden sapphire]

k cool then when are we disabling bug's safe, cause it STILL does insane damage if you get caught between both it and his nair

cause that is 100% an exploit since they tried to change it so that safe only hits once a patch or two ago

[buoyant shuttle]

i wouldnt mind the marker perk being disabled if her alternative exclusive didnt feel so underwhelming but i guess the 5% isnt exactly bad

also maybe the real power of her neutral special is psychological, if someone refuses to approach you or throws projectiles just start dancing and make them think "okay i have to approach or she gets free stacks"

even if the stacks arent super strong, number go up = scary

[dapper mist]

One large issue with the game right now (though it being an issue is subjective) is that the 5% perk is a lot of people's best perk.

[buoyant shuttle]

ill admit im small brained and just run marker because it puts the star in funny places without me having to think about it and exerts the threat of having it up

even if its in a bad spot that im never going to dash to, the enemy doesnt know that

[pearl dust]

star perk doesnt help garneys neutral that much but its nice when youre using rocket to cover your recovery

great value orcane from rivals of aether

[dapper mist]

I mean I played the star too; it gave her a lot of interesting interactions and combo routes.
But others like Banana Guard have no reason to run either of their perks over the 5% bonus.

[pearl dust]

i lowkey wish star didnt despawn so fast

if not at all

[dapper mist]

I wish bolt didn't exist at all

It's so awkard having both our combo move and our kill confirm locked behind being on cooldown

[pearl dust]

a world where clap is garnet’s default grounded up special

a man could dream..

[buoyant shuttle]

yeah i tend to keep bolt and rocket on cd basically always, though bolt is a pretty funny combo opener

[dapper mist]

When did she bolt in the show? I don't remember it at all

[pearl dust]

lowkey if they replaced her current uptilt for bolt i would not bat an eye

nothing of value would be lost

[buoyant shuttle]

i know itd never happen but silliest option: make the marker perk default, move dance to down special and bolt to neutral special

i do get some use out of up tilt but it is a bit situational

[dapper mist]

A perk to put both sideb and upb always on CD 👏

[pearl dust]

nots not BAD but it doesnt do anything that clap and even iad up air dont already do

truly the move of all time

[buoyant shuttle]

yeah its redundantish

[pearl dust]

GIVE ME BACK ARMORED GROUNDED NORMALS RAHHHHH

[dense pine]

Must listen to Steven universe sound track to pull out my inner garnet main and absolutely get folded by that scabby ass gremlin

[crisp bronze]

About cheese strat talk
Tbh It should get removed
When you shot gaunt outside ring
Star should apear next to blast zone

Its just so annoying when one time garnet just did it 3 time on 2s, missed It 3 times and i lose 2v2 bcs of this

[crisp bronze]

I feel like you are the guy who complain the most about garnet

A lot of guys there complaining every fcking day how bad she is when she is easly high b tier/low A

You talking there about killing at 40
I WAS KILLING PEOPLE WITH TRUE COMBO AT 30 BEFORE SIDE B CHANGE

Now she can do it anyway but its a bit trickier

Her air game is disgustingly good rn and outside jocker and gizmo i dont thing anyone have better up air in this game

For god sake guys please just learn the game

The only thing they need to change is her dlight
Bcs Its fcking worthless rn

And mayby a bit faster start ups

[wicked tusk]

I played with Garnet about 2 weeks, this is my Garnet's oppts tier list so far: (1v1 pvp mode)
Hard : Batman, Bunny, WW, Finn, Banana
Medium : Superman, IG, Steven, Joker, Harley
Easy : Jason, Shaggy, Lebron

[crisp bronze]

I mostly agree
But putting steven at medium is unholy

+Batman/bunny/finn are not hard match ups

At least for me

[frozen iris]

Finn and Arya are my hardest. For Finn, I just need to play more patient and really learn my spacing. Arya just feels impossible to hit with that dodge roll.

[crisp bronze]

Arya is garnet worst match up

You need to be much better to win it

She have everything garnet hates

Small hitbox
Very fast start up moves
Very low end lag after move

[wicked tusk]

Most of chars that have armor move i usually put in medium tier, because i won it thnx to anti armor perk
But WW, honestly i haven't seen her often, only 2-3 times, but i lost 2 times because the mains were pretty good

[wicked tusk]

I usually used jump + neutral attack, it has good range
and also teleport star, it's kinda hard for arya to avoid it if we play faster a bit like her

[crisp bronze]

Why use ani armor perk when you van just use 2 stack buff

[strange sentinel]

good you garbage mfs who was abusing that garnet grab cheese finally cooked

[crisp bronze]

Agree

I wish they just change this perk

Like
Rework into something else

[wicked tusk]

i just fought against Banana Guard, who had reached top position Top Dog Challenge : 2
I won 3-1, that was really satisfied

[wicked tusk]

It'll takes more times, early round your oppt won't gives you enough time to dance to get 2 stacks, except when you ringout him/her
Especially WW, Superman and IG, they can be menacingly if the mains are really good

[crisp bronze]

I know
Still you cant stack 1 stack
And if you push them away with Rocket gaunt you will have time to stack 2nd

• you need just to tap It to extend It

[wicked tusk]

I just use the dance only for celebration after i win the match hehe

[short mica]

I use it to rob Rick's meeseeks or reindog's crytal lol

[novel copper]

So it DOES work on the crystal...

will it work at any time or only while he's throwing it?

[wicked tusk]

damn it, how to counter batman, his slide kick always got me, when i tried down attack, he always spacing
his batarang was really annoying

[wicked tusk]

Recently i fought against Batman, Taz and TnJ
I consider to put Taz and TnJ as hard oppts to face
TnJ, my projectile mostly useless because they got destroyed by any TnJ's projectiles before reach them
Taz, his spin and up + attack, the one that almost can't avoided, it really has a good range
Taz can move while charging up + attack

Sometimes i always forgot to use marker, because she has pretty a lot of movesets

[vestal pelican]

Did they remove garnets sig perk😭

[golden sapphire]

Yup cause it was pretty degen

[vestal pelican]

Imma miss dragging people out of the map🥲

[woeful goblet]

hope the new perk will be good. tried the static perk and I cant get any stacks from it lol

[tiny comet]

Meh

Only used marker going against ww anyways

Not enough time to press down special vs her

5% better anyways

Apparently all up special proc shock or electricity

But air up special isnt consistent enough for me to use that rng rhythm perk

Buff down attack if people are touching the ground after or during air move i should hit then like i did in the beta

Examples tazz sairs upspecial, bugs nair, harley nairs. Etc etc

[short mica]

anytime, once it's up just dance around it and hit it once and it becomes yours

[restive nimbus]

where is garnet's fun signature at? please tell me you guys didn't delete it...

[hollow birch]

why is Garnet team Joker? Is it because she's a master of comedy?

[wicked tusk]

What about Velma?

[hollow birch]

has a thing for clowns since she dated Shaggy

[buoyant shard]

omg another hotfix

lets hope garnet get something good

[wicked tusk]

Stay Tooned

[pearl dust]

just fix down attacks blindspot and ill be happy

[wicked tusk]

I think the hotfix just for performance issue or something like bug issues ig

[narrow kestrel]

Why does Garnet only have one signature? What happen to the other perk?

Ok I heard it was deleted why tho?

[crisp bronze]

marker cheese

they will repear it

or just rework it

who knows

[narrow kestrel]

That sucks. Garnet needs all the help she can get

[crisp bronze]

she dont

xd

she need some light buffs

mayby qol

[narrow kestrel]

I just hope she has a good second reworked perk

[crisp bronze]

i would love to get one

im using 5% rn

[narrow kestrel]

Same

[crisp bronze]

marker was always useless

and second is nerfed

[narrow kestrel]

I always forget to use it sometimes which is why I used the marker perk

I mean if they want that perk they could just maybe extend the cooldown of marker if you select the perk.

[crisp bronze]

nah

its not the problem with cd

its the problem with that you could just mark outside of blast zone

and suicide fly into it with enamy

it was very unhealthy

and very annyoying if you teammate died 3 times like this not taking anyone

[frozen iris]

I think it just because she really hates Batman for some reason. Listen to her lines whenever she fights him.

[hollow birch]

She does hate rich men.

But Joker also abused Harley in every single way.

I thought her being the strong empowered lady she is wouldn't stand for that

but ig harley still team jk

[frozen iris]

I agree, I don't think she would join either team. But they had her pick Joker because of her already established Batman hatred.

[restive nimbus]

so their solution is DELETING the ability instead of just tweaking it so it can't drop the star out of bounds? very lame imo

[crisp bronze]

no
they tweaking it

xd

but

they should rework it

[restive nimbus]

i think it's pretty fun personally, i've done some hilarious outplays with it

didn't even know you could do that out of bounds thing

[pearl dust]

no buffs

its joever

[restive nimbus]

this isn't gonna happen, but what I would like is for them to replace her down special so it shoots that lightning orb. that way you don't have to expend the lightning orb so you can start doing the significantly more useful clap attack

and just implement the star side special into her real kit instead of making it a perk

could make her launch to it as the air down special

[crisp bronze]

what outplays xd

outside of blast zone cheese

i dont see any

[restive nimbus]

it's outplays against bad players

i'm not sweaty

just funny outplays because people don't dodge it

[crisp bronze]

i mean
it doesnt have any outplays
the only thing it was going for this was blast zone cheese

and they will tweek it now

star will apear next to blast zone

[restive nimbus]

main one i can think of is placing the star near a wall and baiting the enemy into trying to down spike me

and i grab them and slam them into the wall when they do that

if they're injured enough they just fly away and die

[crisp bronze]

I mean
Idk
I still think its better to just do it manualy

And have actual perk

[restive nimbus]

nah, she already has way too many set ups in her kit

it's annoying having to do THREE things before you can function

[crisp bronze]

What 3 things?

Outside of star

[restive nimbus]

ground up special, star, and the song, situationally

with the side special perk, you get rid of one of them

i can't think of any character in the game that requires more set up besides zoners

[crisp bronze]

Tbh
Up special doesnt need set up

You just press Burton

Button

And its instant

[restive nimbus]

it's not instant

people can punish that

[idle hearth]

i almost never use the song

[crisp bronze]

It shots at 45 degree

Song is situational

[idle hearth]

is it really that good?

[restive nimbus]

song is usually not necessary

[crisp bronze]

If you Play vs zoner

Its very good

[restive nimbus]

it also gives you armor piercing on EVERYTHING at 2 stacks

1 stack you only get move speed bonus

[crisp bronze]

I think at 2 stack It give you attack speed

But its not mentioned anywhere

Im almost sure

[idle hearth]

ohhh thats good to know. didnt really use it because of the lack of Zoners i am playing against

[restive nimbus]

maybe, i havent read it in a hot minute

i just see the purple hands

[idle hearth]

and idk why but i never play against Wonder woman

[crisp bronze]

It feel she attack faster

At 2 stacks

[restive nimbus]

definitely possible

[idle hearth]

hmm that would be weird

[crisp bronze]

You are at very low mmr
Or you are super lucky

One of these

[restive nimbus]

that would give you an incentive to use it against all characters, if it gives attack speed too

assuming you can get away with doing it

[idle hearth]

do you really think that they would buff the framedata of every Move just because of an buff?

[idle hearth]

idk how much i need to play

[crisp bronze]

I mean

After ko

Its easy to set up 2 stacks

[idle hearth]

im not playing like THAT MUCH but still a solid amount

[crisp bronze]

And you need just to tap It to extend It

[idle hearth]

and i am winning like 90% of the matches

[crisp bronze]

Same as me

[restive nimbus]

i'm gonna hate it when my mmr spikes up to what it was last time this game was live

[idle hearth]

im waiting for ranked rn

[restive nimbus]

i started losing to every single match after winning most games

think i was in the top 50, but i had no business being there

[crisp bronze]

I mean
Im meeting streamers
So in probably preaty high

I was top 1 for like 2 weeks
In beta

I mean top 1 garnet

[restive nimbus]

it was as jake though, not garnet... and now jake's pretty garbage after that skateboard nerf

i dont even like to play him now

[crisp bronze]

Tbh
Skateboard was borderline broken and just toxic xF

Good its gone

[idle hearth]

i played against 2 top 5 Evo players

[restive nimbus]

it was but it's JANK now

they balanced it in the worst way possible

[crisp bronze]

Nice

Btw guys

You eu or na

[idle hearth]

EU

[restive nimbus]

i haven't lost to a single jake player since this relaunch, it's depressing

NA

[crisp bronze]

Im eu too

Would love to Play you Mika after maintance

[idle hearth]

Sure!

[crisp bronze]

Tbh i didnt meet garnet that defeated me yet

So im looking for It

XD

No wait
I lose 2 in bo5

Vs 1

[restive nimbus]

garnet's so fun

i really hope they don't gut her

[crisp bronze]

I just wish they tweek that bullshittt tech with blast zone star

It should not be in the game

Its toxic as hell

[restive nimbus]

it's just so weird that they can't just add a quick fix to it, like "if the star tries to spawn here, don't allow it"

[crisp bronze]

They adding It now

Probably

[idle hearth]

ngl im just scared that they will nerf her loops while giving her 0 buffs

that would kinda kill her

i dont have anything against killing loops but PLEASE GIVE GARNET A BUFF

[crisp bronze]

Bro
Loop with jab into sair into jab is toxic

And you know It

[idle hearth]

100%

[crisp bronze]

I learned It finaly
But i feel too disgusted to use it

XD

[idle hearth]

its crazy broken

[restive nimbus]

do i even want to know what you guys are talking about? lol

[idle hearth]

but these combos are making Garnet stand out

if you remove them

then why even play garnet?

[restive nimbus]

i agree that removing combos is bad for the game

if you can't tech, a lot of people will lose interest

[idle hearth]

#clips message

thats one example

[crisp bronze]

To hit people with 40 damage in 3 hits?

[restive nimbus]

that is ABSOLUTELY disgusting

[crisp bronze]

To have one of the best air Play in the game?

[idle hearth]

i wouldnt go that far

[restive nimbus]

i'm fine with a slightly extended combo, but that clip is WAY too much

[crisp bronze]

Her up air is BROKEN

[idle hearth]

without her combos there would be no real reason to play her

over Wonder woman

or Bugs

not saying that she sucks

[crisp bronze]

Better projectiles, tankier

[idle hearth]

but she NEEDS to compete with these chars

or else she becomes irrelevant

Tankier? ehh

idk

shes big

very

big

Wonderwoman has armor

[crisp bronze]

Im living to 130-150 most of the time

[idle hearth]

and a sword

[restive nimbus]

garnet's strongest spike gives her armor

the neutral ground smash

[crisp bronze]

Its not

[idle hearth]

she does not have any amor i believe

[restive nimbus]

no? what's stronger?

[north path]

Why do the patch notes not mention removing perk, let alone mention Garnet at all? Of all the things they seemingly don't want to communicate about, why is this one of them?

[crisp bronze]

N light

Charged

[idle hearth]

ahh

yeah

[crisp bronze]

Tbh this move growing on me

Its disgustingly good bait move

[idle hearth]

almost never use it xd but funnily enough it does works sometimes

but i think thats just an skill issue from the opponent

[crisp bronze]

I killed arya from middle of stage at 50 with It today

[restive nimbus]

yeah you can destroy people with that attack

only the tankiest of characters can handle it once they're around 100

[crisp bronze]

Not too much

If you use IT like 2 times a game

There is no way they will not fall for it

Anyway

I will handycap myself vs you mika
And will Play without jab into sair

[idle hearth]

im pretty sure they can react to it. There are just arent enough good player

game is pretty new

[restive nimbus]

that's when it is the funnest :)

[idle hearth]

ngl i will just make a bold prediction right now

[crisp bronze]

I used it vs top 16 euro versus players

Xd

[idle hearth]

garnet will fall off the meta

the longer the game exist

[crisp bronze]

They still won most of the time

[idle hearth]

as long as the devs arent giga nerfing big combos

[crisp bronze]

But they falled for IT

[restive nimbus]

yeah probably, she's pretty telegraphed

[idle hearth]

optimized combos will destroy her

[crisp bronze]

Bro you have last loop combo in the game

Tf you talking xd

[idle hearth]

yeah

but they will probably nerfing this

an Combos will be optimized which WILL kill her at early %

And because of the lack of fast options she will get bullied a lot

[crisp bronze]

Tbh only character that can kill her very early is Shaggy

If you Play right with di

[idle hearth]

she doesnt have any moves that is able to force people SAFELY away

[restive nimbus]

yeah i have no issue surviving past 150 against a lot of characters

[idle hearth]

Thats why i said Optimized combos

i´ll bet that combos still need to be figured out

OR ATLEAST ADVANTAGESTATE

[crisp bronze]

Tbh most of the times eggheads that sit in lab 24/7 finding near every combo in like week

[idle hearth]

aight then i guess advantage state

because what options does garnet have to get out of disadvantage