Bugs Bunny

[knotty isle]

Most shaggy players just spam side special

[limpid berry]

They removed all his combos when the full release dropped

Dair and fair were some of his best combo tools but sair is a kill move now and dair has abysmal hitstun

[knotty isle]

Ahhh ok

[limpid berry]

His only combo was jab 2 utilt up b but thats gone for killing too early, which would be fine if he had literally ANYTHING else

Its like the devs want Shaggy to just be a side b spam character or something

[knotty isle]

That's actually a good point. By removing a lot of combos and kill confirms they are really just making the player want to use side special more.

[limpid berry]

Jab 1,2 > up b is still a better kill confirm than hitting side b a thousand times

[heavy pendant]

bugs still has combos. yall just got too comfortable spamming nair 🤷

nair also is still very strong. very good at catching dodges/hard to punish if you control it in the air properly

[little fractal]

Agreed

[topaz herald]

Yea gotta implement a bunch more of the moves like the cooldown specials and also dodge jump follow ups.

Also not really use nair in neutral anymore but instead fair and dair

[scenic pond]

Bugs has 0 true comboes that are 3 hits or more. All of his decent comboes the didn't even use nair don't work since the nerf. I agree the nair spam should be removed but they still clearly overnerfed bugs

[topaz herald]

Gotta get creative. Also lots of his strings you can follow up and punish dodges. Also have yoy tried stuff like cooldown specials and dodge jumping yo extend to combos?

We have to actually be creative with our combos now

Even if you don’t have true combos you can end strings in a position of advantage and push that

A big part of the game is reading strings and punishing di to keep pressure

[scenic pond]

Bugs is mage but they're basically making us play him like a bruiser or assassin

[topaz herald]

Huh?

Mage is using a bunch of his projectiles and playing to get people to mess up and die

[scenic pond]

Yeah

[topaz herald]

Like using uprocket to cover the soace

[scenic pond]

But they nerfed his safe to the ground

[simple sluice]

Why did bugs get nerfed so badly?

[topaz herald]

Is there a hard definition for how each role is supposed to play

[scenic pond]

All characters can one shot it

[topaz herald]

The safe nerf was rough

Now ots main use os edge gaurding

[simple sluice]

They nerfed bugs so hard

[topaz herald]

That being said its still amazing edge gaurd

Hes still good but ges not easy to do good with

[scenic pond]

Yeah ig but it was originally meant for damage

[topaz herald]

Uprocket is still one of the best projectiles in the game

[scenic pond]

Yeah that's fair

[topaz herald]

Safe def needs to be adjusted though

At least so that it can hit a person one time reliably

But till then save it for dodfe reads and edge gaurding

Cause edge gaurd safe to down air is extremely hard for most characters to deal with

[scenic pond]

Tunnel feels like bugs strongest move rn with the perk

[topaz herald]

Bugs off stage and edge game is amazing

Uprocket is better imo

[scenic pond]

it actually gives him a better chance to land a combo

[topaz herald]

But i should try that bugs perk more

Uprockets stage control and potential for kills is great imo

Cause people can just avoid the holes till cooldown

[scenic pond]

Uprocket is good for kill confirms but if u utilize tunnel, u can keep opponents off the ground

Especially morty

[topaz herald]

Well also the fall down

Snd after a nair if they air dodge uprocket can catch and you can follow up with up air for early kills

[scenic pond]

Yeah

[topaz herald]

Now i think after landing a nair we should focus on dodge punishing instead of trying pure combos

Gotta disensitive dodges with punishes first

[scenic pond]

usually if up kick them u can nair to bat and u can read their dodge to keep batting them

[topaz herald]

Yea

Also finding nair can be followed up by upsmash at low percents

Also one thing i have done at low percents is dash attack into upsmash

[scenic pond]

having safe pie and rocket all on screen can lead to a nice punish

For lighter characters I try to lure them to the edge and then use the safe on them to the void

[topaz herald]

I love playing on the edge especially when pther people get greedy and i punish with a kill. Bugs float allows him to stay offstage way more than others

[scenic pond]

Yeah also if u can land a sair on the edge u can hit a dair on low percents into the void

[grim crystal]

Just bugs bunny is bad now

[topaz herald]

Hes not bad, hes just requires using more of his kit than nair. Safe is still fantastic edge gaurding and uprocket is one of if not the best projectile in the game

Also he still has great kill confirms

He can still kill consistently at low 100s and sneak in much lower kills

Also fair is great at horizontal kills

Following them offstage and pressuring offstage os great

Few characters can match bugs offstage game

[simple sluice]

I feel like sair is nerfed

It won't hit

It just goes through the enemy every time I just stopped using it

[restive aspen]

is nair > utilt loop true on bigger characters like jason?

[grim crystal]

I think Bugs Bunny is in a very difficult situation right now, so why? Because the character already has a weak melee kit, low hitbox area and more, only the air neatural attack was in a strong position, they nerfed it in this patch, and the box also received a huge nerf, now the box explodes without hitting the opponent (almost always) and now Bugs Bunny is just He's trying to run away and play a game. I miss the beta days so much.

[topaz herald]

At low percents

[grim crystal]

While it is very easy to punish Bugs Bunny, Bugs Bunny cannot punish her opponent.

[topaz herald]

Forward air

Dash jab

Even pies

[topaz herald]

Forward air is good

You gotta actually space

[grim crystal]

Forward air not bad but i think bad hitbox is very low

[topaz herald]

Its not as bad as you think

You gotta get off of nair in nuetral

Bugs still has great neutral and can literally take control of an entire section of the stage with things like uprocket

You just can’t approach as recklessly

Also dodge cancel jab is a great punish and how i fight most ground characters

He can punish

[grim crystal]

Bugs Bunny doesn't have any combos anymore, his main problem is, is it true that the neatural air attack has been nerfed? Yes, but he doesn't even have the air down attack and air neatural attack combo anymore, he just tries to play the game by hit and run, which makes it very difficult to win.

[topaz herald]

He does still have combos

[grim crystal]

How

İ try but i do not

[topaz herald]

Jab up smash nair and you can follow up

Also fair into dodge jump fair

You will need to dodge jump to do combos now but he still has then, they just require more movement

Also he has fantastic dodge punishes

Uprocket can combo into upair for early kills and a great punish for those dodging after a nair

Bugs has great strings you punish panic dodgers

Also dair into nair into jabbinto upsmash at lower percents

Fair into dodge cancel jab upsmash for more combo

Also he can combo with his cooldown safe move and dodge punish with the regular safe

[grim crystal]

I stopped playing Bugs Bunny and started playing Marvin. Believe me, Marvin is also a wizard but he is very powerful compared to Bugs Bunny.

While I can never win while playing Bugs Bunny, I win almost every game while playing Marvin. Could this be a coincidence (I am Bugs Bunny main and I have only been playing Marvin for a week since Bugs Bunnyi beta)

[topaz herald]

Sounds like cioncidence and not adapting to the change, which does take time to adapt to

Bugs will be bad if you play him like you did prepatch, but thats not good enough anymore

[grim crystal]

İ dont know but i think bugs bunny need buff

[topaz herald]

Maybe readujst the safe but hes still good

He has one of the best offstage ganesy

Like did you ever chase people offstage?

Also do set ups like uprocket

[topaz herald]

Another thing to keep in mind is marvin is a way less common matchup so you will def have people clueless how to fight marvin and get easy wins that way

Also are you just doing one and dones or actual sets?

[grim crystal]

I didn't understand what you meant

[topaz herald]

When you win are you winning just one match and leaving or doing like best two out of threes

But to go back to bugs his float makes him able to recover when most characters cant so you frequently want to push your pressure to offstage

Hes better at surving offstage trades, has fantastic options below and above him

And his fair will kill really early if they catch you slipping

Like staying away with his projectiles than changing tempo with dashing fairs can catch people off gaurd

[grim crystal]

Usually if I try to hit them off stage they dodge it

Easily

He is so slow cause

[topaz herald]

Punish dodges

Nair into uprocket can punish dodges and follow up woth upair for early kills

Heck delayed nair is a great dodge punish

[grim crystal]

Bugs Bunny is slow, many characters have much faster animations

[topaz herald]

Do you have the frame data for this?

Slso do you know how to do dodge cancel jumps?

Cause those make everyone fast

Also if you hit a fair it combos into another fair and on most part of the stages will send them offstage

[grim crystal]

What is

[topaz herald]

Frame data is the objective truth of move speeds. If you say hes slow then the frame data would show that all his moves start slower than literally everyone elses moves

If you don’t have frame data you just guessing speed

You can’t say a characters slow then not bring up the tangible proof of,” frame data. If hes slow the starting franes for his moves will be higher than other characters. I dont have that data but competitive scenes tend to get this info

It is very easy to know of that claim is true or not by checking the frame data

[simple sluice]

You can change your input buffer (what should I change it into?)

[topaz herald]

Im still figuring that out cause the nair change really messed with the buffering after that move on the ground right now im a little lower than default

[simple sluice]

How low?

25?

[topaz herald]

Im trying 25

But im thinking of experimenting since im still getting my jumps eaten after nair

[topaz herald]

btw if you ever want we could play and practice different things to figure out bugs

[topaz herald]

also tested in trained but bugs still has gaurenteed combos over 3 hits

you can't land with nair but if you follow up nair with an aireal WITHOUT langing you can get follow ups

but at low percents you can combo nair into jab

also if they mash dodge out of nair and don't do it away from you can punish with uprocket or follow them with another nair

so now our best starter for combos is charged forward air

you can get 70% off a fully charge fair

so the only reliable follow ups after nair are jabs on the ground and upair in the are and sometimes forward if they DI your nair down. beyond those two the rest of the thigns you do do in anticaption of a mashed dodge

uprocket i will always simp for

at higher percents you can combo uncharged fairs with dash dodge jab or dash jump fair

Fair will be the main combo starter for bugs, and now you will need to learn how to do dodge jump cancels to follow up but you can get true combos and kill confirms

maybe not main

but it will be one big tool

[fast anchor]

Safe needs to not take damage when it hits someone

Wasn't an issue before the nerf but this is genuinely one of the worst things I've had to deal with in a fighting game

[topaz herald]

yes this makes it's really unpleasant

that being said sometimes i will just throw a safe out and watch the other person beeline to destroy it and punish how they destroy it

sepecifically wonder womens love side b-ing so getting a bit further and punish with jab

[little fractal]

Meh bugs is fine. Safe not being OP is a good thing

[topaz herald]

it could use a little adjustment to at least not break on hit of people cause often times this results it it not even landing a hit

[little fractal]

Ya that change would be fine I think without making it busted again

[topaz herald]

yea it doesn't need to be as strong as before

[pseudo sapphire]

Feels really weird not having ppl insulting bugs mains here. Used to be filled with insults lol

[brave cape]

he is still a very easy character

[calm parrot]

💀

no

[brave cape]

how is bugs a hard character

half his moves armor break

all of them have kill potential

[brave cape]

explain to me a single weakness that he has

tell me that makes him hard

[calm parrot]

he is

[brave cape]

i asked you to explain

you havent

[limpid berry]

He can't

Bugs has been among the 4 easiest characters since release

[brave cape]

Yep

Good combos, good damage, small hitbox, armor breaks, tons of kill potential

[unborn radish]

Guys why did bugs get the biggest nerfs like in the beta... Again💀

I just saw him get a butt load of them on patch 1.04?

I think

It's not like he's a banana guard or a black Adam

[limpid berry]

Because he's busted like in the beta... Again💀

He had an infinite

[brave cape]

He's still great lol

[brave cape]

2 wrongs don't make a right

[topaz herald]

elmer fudd just keeps coming back to bugs

[rancid sparrow]

Voids list puts us out of high tier😔

The nerfs were too strong

[topaz herald]

yea he def requires playing differently

honestly i don't hold tier lists too highly when i'm not yet at the highest level of touyrney skill

but void knows what he's talking about

though we have a lot of room for potentialy since lots of other characters quired dash cancels for their great combos we have to imprvise

[fast anchor]

Honestly idgaf about tier lists I play bugs because he's bugs freakin bunny

I low-key didn't even know he was good until the release dropped

I should rephrase that because I knew he was like high tier but I didn't know he was THAT that good

[topaz herald]

same for me

also he's stil fun to play

[pseudo crescent]

wdym

where did he do the new tier list

[rancid sparrow]

saw it on reddit yesterday

we are not considered a "threat" character anymore

[pseudo crescent]

could you link up

[pseudo crescent]

his combo game is dead

[rancid sparrow]

Ill have to find it again

yeah his comboes are almost all gone

[pseudo crescent]

found it

[topaz herald]

Its not dead but requires dash cancelked attacks like other characters do

Basically now we have to use stuff other characters need for thier combos if we want to combo

[grim crystal]

I miss beta bugs bunny

I was having so much fun

[topaz herald]

btw a note to self and others but when you hit with a dair instead of using nair use forward air and when they bounce ont eh ground you can follow up with more combo

if you do use a nair in a combo prepare to use a dodge bait

[dusk hazel]

were u always able to move the rocket downwards?

[unkempt notch]

Yes

[dusk hazel]

First time i ever see it somebody did it to me today lol

[topaz herald]

yea you can fast fall it, wonderwomen can do the same with her side b but not to as big an extent

[fast anchor]

Something I like doing if you up rocket and then double jump you can drop safe and it'll bounce on the ground

It has a hitbox and it doesn't get destroyed by the top blastzone so if it misses the first time it can still come back down

This has been a thing for as long as I've been playing so I'd be unsurprised if most of y'all also knew about it

[granite crater]

that's cool

neat

[little fractal]

I feel like lots of people stopped playing bugs. Which makes me actually want to play him
Now

[topaz herald]

Yea lots of people quit cause you have to try now

[little fractal]

True

[topaz herald]

But bugs has combos beyond three hit ones they require dash cancels though. Also after upsmash/upair/uprocket hitting if you dodge super jump you can follow up with an upair for killing,

[fast anchor]

That tends to happen when top tier characters get nerfed, there's that group of people who play them for how good they are so when th nerfs are substantial enough they tend to swap to a different character

[calm parrot]

hes still good

just easy to over power now

[topaz herald]

yea you can't catch people with massive combos nearly as easily and it is hard for him to approach

but he's still great at pestering and one of the best offstage characters

he can recover where most can't and can pressure way stronger and safer than most

[topaz herald]

learning how to super jump is vital for bugs now, cause after you knock people into the air you can super jump and follow them up an up air, often combing for like 70-90% kills and even without true combos you can punish dodges if they are mashing

[copper estuary]

Where have all the Bugs players now?

[pseudo sapphire]

Most of them left after they realized they can’t abuse his infinites anymore, some switched mains.

On the bright side, this place isn’t filled with insults anymore.

[limpid berry]

They left because he doesn't get a free kill off of one attack anymore

[copper estuary]

I miss Bugs man

Im returning to him

[pseudo sapphire]

Hope you’ll enjoy him in his current state. If you didn’t abuse his infinites you should be fine for the most part.

Though youll probably struggle a little more with kills now that his safe isn’t as good anymore.

[topaz herald]

Bugs still has a lot of realible kills but you have to super jump follow up after stuff to land upairs for kills, but once you learn that it's vital for getting kills since youc an combo into it with stuff like jab, forward air, uprocket, upsmash

but it's much harder to approach with bugs now and you gotta play more pestery to bait your oppenent into stuff

[little fractal]

Bugs announcer is broken huh

[unkempt notch]

No fightin' woids 😔

[little fractal]

Well done hah

[fast anchor]

It's all fun and games until we learn it broke because they tried to get him to say "Boowomp" when you lose

[copper estuary]

That will be so funny

[sick wadi]

His voice clips are broken in general. Pressing □/X on the controller (whatever the left button on the controller is for you) doesn't play anything for him, regardless of the skin

[copper estuary]

They took his voice box away

[sick wadi]

Lmao yup

[fast anchor]

Muted for his crimes

[copper estuary]

But Steven and WW hard counter him

[fast anchor]

Steven makes me so mad you have no idea

I don't mind bad matchup that happens it's just Steven specifically

[copper estuary]

When i beat him i scream like a caveman

[topaz herald]

Bugs jab eats through wws armor

Also his rocket beats her armor

[little fractal]

I don’t struggle with WW as much. Steven is definitely annoying

[topaz herald]

how do you fight tom and jerry? their a matchup i struggle with

[timid rock]

t&j you really need to time jerry dodges and pressure tom in the face basically if you let him setup his tenis balls you re cooked

[lament eagle]

I have obtained, matrix bugs bunny
lets go gamers

[topaz herald]

How do you deal with toms jab? I struggle with tom at close range as well

[timid rock]

his normal is strong yeah i like to do down air a lot so the hammer isnt part of my hit box, i also like to wait until he enventually do more laggy moves

[topaz herald]

which of his moves are the best to punish?

[timid rock]

fishing rod is the easiest by far but they barely use it, trap and rocket are the good ones tho

[lost pumice]

Coming from a tnj main my best advice to you is kill Jerry if you get the chance. That in itself cuts off alot of options.

[topaz herald]

thanksies, safe and rocket are great at doing that so save it to kill jerry, how do you deal with tom's jabs? i struggle with those

[lost pumice]

Well one tip. Tnj actually have a kill confirm with jab into down attack so if I had to recommend how to deal with it? I'd say either try to read their movements, attack him before he can get it out, or just avoid it entirely. Alternatively you could just throw something at him while he does it like a pie or something

Again this is from a tnj main perspective not a Bugs main

Games like these always come down to skill or reading your opponent

[topaz herald]

okay so DIing up is better and that down attack is a very dangerous kill

[lost pumice]

Oh how I love helping my neighboring Bugs mains

Anyways back to my thread lol

[tribal lance]

yknow...

i'm starting to like Bugs a lot

A lot of people forget that rocket eventually comes back down

and safe spikes against people being turds edgecamping : )

nair and jab being multihits are just the * chefs kiss *

[chrome hawk]

they should have nerfed bugs harder

[topaz herald]

that's my favorite thing

[topaz herald]

sure elmer fudd

[chrome hawk]

awesome actually. i might change my server nickname to 'multiversus elmer fudd'

[topaz herald]

do it

[chrome hawk]

its sick

wabbit season mafaka 🤑

[topaz herald]

lol

[tribal lance]

Man a Superman tried to cheese me off the top the other day when I respawned. But ran into my rocket and died at 0%

Why does Bugs have the armor break purple effect on jab? Aren't all multihits armor break anyways?

[regal river]

not armor breaking right away,most are prety much armor breaking because the first hit of the jab breaks armor and the second actually does knockback

unlike bugs who does knockback with armor break first hit

[tribal lance]

oooooh! neat that makes sense

Are there any other characters that use a multihit armor break?

[copper estuary]

How to fight Arya as Bugs?

[chrome hawk]

you get MURDERED KID ITS WABBIT SEASON 🤑

[copper estuary]

Its Arya season when she gets nerfed

[chrome hawk]

shes already crap why would she

[tribal lance]

I'm new to Bugs and still learning the matchup.

But I've starting to find that throwing slow pies and trailing slightly behind them threw off a lot of aryas I fought.

For quick trades on smaller characters that sometimes escape out of nair hitbox do you guys just do quick fairs?

[topaz herald]

i struggle with this match up also but DIing her moves away to dodge out is very important to avoid ehr kills also if she's ever int he air or offstage you need to capitalize

also if you fastfall bugs uprocket while facing towards the edge and going down it instakills you

very improtant thing to not do

[topaz herald]

btw i do stream on twitch if anyone wants to see vods of me just playing bugs to see another bugs play. i do act a fool on stream though and won't shut up while i play so be forwarned

[tribal lance]

what times u stream?

[topaz herald]

honestly been a bit inconsistent and combined with toehr stuff but i could link the vods of multiversus

often around 8-10pm est is when i satar

[frail shell]

@proud warren

[topaz herald]

so i struggle to get past upsmash and jab like i often lose the close up against those moves

like his ranged isn't nearly as bad as his close up for me

[hybrid jacinth]

Best kill confirm on bugs?
If it’s up kick into bat is there a best way to guarantee it especially on high percents?

[topaz herald]

yes it's gaurenteed with dodge jumps. but there are plenty of other ones. however they do require dodge cancelled jumps so it's important to practice those

but other ones are up rocket into upair, fair into jab into upsmash

[hybrid jacinth]

Is it high jump into dodge or dodge left/right into high jump

[topaz herald]

dodge left/right into high jumop

[pseudo sapphire]

We chillin ig

[copper estuary]

Can someone tell me what that change was?

[pseudo sapphire]

Literally just made kiss unspammable (So when you use it the second time it has less stun time)

Don't really use that move

[copper estuary]

I only use it to kill confirms

[pseudo sapphire]

Yeah you should be good then

[main tendon]

Former Garnet/Stripe player here, I'm looking around for the right fighter to learn and main and I want to try and see if the bnuuy's right for me

As someone who likes fighters like Orcane in Rivals and Don in NASB2 would you think Bugs would work?

[pseudo sapphire]

Try him out in training and see if he works for you. I like Bugs cuz you can setup a ton of stuff like rockets, safes and pies. You can stress your opponent so much. Pay attention to cooldowns though as he heavily relies on them.

[main tendon]

i understand! i tried him out before but compared to my previous mains i never saw THAT much incentive in maining him

[pseudo sapphire]

If you don't feel comfortable maining him, then don't. Maining a character shouldn't be a chore to do. The character you choose should make you feel like you want to main him.

[main tendon]

i think considering the fact my prev mains are in a not-so-good situation i think imma mess with him more. he seems up my alley

[pseudo sapphire]

Cool! If you want to, try going into unranked 1v1s and play around with him.

Or go watch a youtube guide if you want to

[main tendon]

👍

[main tendon]

besides, bugs feels more like a setplay character and i think i like setplay

[calm parrot]

i hate the safe change still

why can i break it before it even goes anywhere

[fast anchor]

They didn't fix safe in the s2 patch?

Man

[pseudo sapphire]

It needs a slight health buff

3 hp is WAYYY too little ngl

[rancid sparrow]

Yeah part of why I stopped playing bugs😔

They really giga nerfed him to the ground last season

[pseudo sapphire]

Bugs and Jack duo might be meta.

[fast anchor]

Honestly I only play him because he's bugs bunny but like if I'm not having fun with him why play him

They basically removed like one of my favorite things to do with safe and it was getting on my nerves big time

[pseudo sapphire]

Yeah Bugs isn’t as good as he used to be. A tier is good but I still think he needs a slight buff to his safe health

[fast anchor]

Honestly I wouldn't mind keeping safe health the same if they make it not take damage when it hits someone

That's the part that's been getting on my nerves because I can't dair uair the safe for kills anymore

A of what I liked about safe was just the amount of shenanigans you could do with it all my favorite things i did with it were just hitting the safe into them like 4 times lmao

Ping pong but the ball takes like 60%

And stuff like dair uair i would say is balanced bc it takes setup and is way hard to land if they di

[main tendon]

Been playing unranked: I genuinely like Bugs, while his safe isn't good enough for setplay he kinda just... feels right for me

The way of the bunny feels right to me!

[proud pasture]

i feel like bugs is now more of a 2v2 character
or i struggle in ranked 1v1 lol

[wicked mason]

off ledge its funny though if it lands, sometimes kills at low percent

[topaz herald]

he's still really good but not easy

safe is amazing offstage but still really overnerfed

however he still has amazing stuff like uprocket and combos that can kill at 60-80 percents

[pseudo sapphire]

He is. Bugs is definitely more of a support character than a character than can dish out a lot of dmg. Especially when you have a good teammate

[fast anchor]

Bugs is still good but for mostly different reasons

Old bugs was good because of a really easy combo game, safe being nigh invulnerable to most things and strong killpower

[unkempt notch]

Beta safe was great. Powerful but not unfair. Broke after hitting enemies a few times but didn't break from your hits.

Only issue came when enemies wanted to break it with attacks, which would now be fine with armor break interactions.

[tawdry tendon]

Bro why is the safe not good?

I see people attacking it and it goes away in an instant wtf

[pseudo sapphire]

Armor break moves break it instantly. Also safe dies in like 2 hits so yeah

[fast anchor]

Long story short is that safe only has 3 HP. Loses 1 HP when you hit it, 1 HP when it hits an enemy, and 1 HP if an enemy hits it. Armor breaking attacks break it instantly

Most people only use it for edgeguards

[sour wren]

They nerfed it was safe but it was too powerful and deadly combos

I'm sure if it was 2v2 you only hit two times

[pseudo sapphire]

Bugs is definitely more of a 2s character now. Pair him up with someone that can dish out good dmg like Jack and you should be good to go.

[scenic pond]

Jab - Up Kick - nair is a true combo

After that u can read the opponent's direction and do sair special or up air special

If the the rocket is off cooldown then u can bring it down a little when doing up air special to get a hit towards the void and u could probably get a bat in for a kill

If it's on cooldown then u can do the up air special to a bat

The bat isn't true for both scenarios tho

[topaz herald]

You can also upair after it

But other combos are fair, jab upsmash upair

[topaz herald]

Hes still reslly good in singles, he has easy kills on most of the cast at 70-100 percent and is one of if not the best offstage character

If you’re not chasing your openeents offstage and keeping them there you’re missing out on one of his best situations.

Also uprocket is one of the best projectiles in the game

[topaz herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmfWxuoxqxY okay so this seems very good for bugs considering he can just keep floating

also just staying in the air constantly seems very very good for bugs

okay so doing the rejump dodge is amazing for bugs and has been getting me out of samurai jacks edge setups but it's just starting testing and one example

but it's really great

[topaz herald]

so bugs is amazing against a person whos walled cause you can fast fall forward air them into dair to kill

or dair to safe

[lament eagle]

bout to be watching Bugs bunny cartoons ALL day
I wonder if this will imbue me with the power of bugs bunny so I can be better as him

[lament eagle]

I swear, I'm fighting people with auto dodge scripts or something because there is no way

[topaz herald]

delaying your attacks will help a lot

[sly trout]

He deserved it bro

[rancid sparrow]

Not as hard as it was lpl

Lol

[pseudo crescent]

yea but why is IG getting slaps on the wrist tho

[sly trout]

IG?

[pseudo crescent]

iron giant

[sly trout]

to be fair

double bugs safe or nair bugs safe racks up damage way too fast

and most of it comes from the majority and the amount of times I heard complaints about bugs is one too many

[copper estuary]

Tbh it was needed it was giving cheesy wins

[sly trout]

That’s why I wanted him nerfed so people can shut up and complain about another character

[copper estuary]

Ive seen people hate on T&J like what did they do

People need stop crying out things that are normal (Bugs WW needed to be nerfed

And Steven

[sly trout]

Bro Tom and Jerry requires the most mechanical skill

[copper estuary]

Etc

[copper estuary]

Real same i love playing them

[sly trout]

Unless they’re mad about 3 hammer hit into the paddleball cheese then I could see why they would be mad

[copper estuary]

Its not that what ive heard bc the amount projectiles they have but the prob play hella armored character

T&J are lightweight so they get killed easily

Jerry dies easily

People are just impatient

[sly trout]

Projectiles are annoying to deal with lol

They’re not broken though by any means

The only projectile that’s was broken was bugs safe on release

[copper estuary]

Thats 100% fair i wanted to be nerfed aswell

[charred crag]

Does anyone know how to defeat Jamurai Sack or is he that OP?

[sly trout]

Projectiles

is your best bet

[charred crag]

oh dang... Time to Pie, then

[sly trout]

Also don't play edges

thats the best way I can play against jack

[feral wadi]

i wish they didn’t get rid of tunnel rocketing shi was so fun

[unkempt notch]

For real, loved that trick

[charred crag]

Why does Bugs bunny feel worse to play now?

Am I not supposed to Nair now?

[sly trout]

You can

but you have to use an attack before using another one

[rose jungle]

How do I counter the nair? I keep getting hit by it unless I parry it.

[sly trout]

Bugs nair?

[rose jungle]

Yes, I'm not that quite skilled you see hahaha....

[sly trout]

Not guaranteed but my nairs often get interrupted when my target is on the ground, throws a projectile, or uses an amour/charged attack

I still hit them

[pseudo sapphire]

What character do you usually play?

[rose jungle]

Thanks, I guess I'll just try trading it with an armor move.

[rose jungle]

Been playing agent Smith recently

Although I kinda play everyone

[sly trout]

his clone interrupts it

[pseudo sapphire]

Oh ok. Just do what the previous guy said. If it was Jason then I would’ve been cooked cuz I don’t think he can dodge out of nair.

[rose jungle]

Ahh I'll try that, never occurred to me to use that. I use the down attack but his fist is too stubby most of the time.

[sly trout]

They didn't remove it

[feral wadi]

istg they did where you cld tunnel on the rocket itself and change its trajectory mid air

[sly trout]

wdym mid air like after exiting the tunnel?

[rose jungle]

Yikes he is like my one of my faves. Guess I'll have to think outside the box when the rabbit comes.

[sly trout]

it's near impossible to escape nair if you're caught in it, unless the bugs is moving too fast

[restive aspen]

is there a bugs bunny discord

and if so can you dm me invite

[topaz herald]

Nair is not a combo move anymore if you land it in a combo prepare to bait dodges. For his combos you gotta super jump and dodge cancel to get the proper follow ups

[scenic pond]

In some situations nair can combo into sair special on rocket cooldown

[rugged bane]

What’s everyone’s tips for a noobie playing bugs

[scenic pond]

Try to utilize all your projectiles: the rocket, safe, and pie

Also use the tunnel perk instead of the heart one

[rugged bane]

Ok I don’t have him leveled enough yet but I will keep that in mind

Thanks

[sly trout]

his best kill option IMO will always be bat, and using nair into bat throws people off, because of how fast it is

[noble smelt]

is the perk really that good? and how useful is tunnel in general?

[scenic pond]

It is and tunnel is an amazing way of controlling the stage

[copper estuary]

I unironcally not finding bugs not fun anynore

[sly trout]

play someone else then

[charred crag]

Try Joker or Adam. I think they're better than bugs for being an all-rounder mage

[charred crag]

also why can't a grounded NAir hit Marvin?

Is Marvin supposed to hard counter Bugs?

[sly trout]

Hit boxes

[modern cloak]

how do yall deal with samurai jacks

[rugged bane]

Fr I don’t get how to fight against him as bugs

[granite crater]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-piano-hyper-active-bgb-gif-12629150

[pseudo sapphire]

Zone

Do NOT get close to him

[modern cloak]

also black adam is a huge problem for me tbh

hes horrible

[pseudo sapphire]

Black Adam is rly good rn. Pair that with the down special that gets rid of your best moves and yeah hes an instant loss.

[chrome hawk]

multiversus if player first games deleted bugs bunny and all bugs bunny assets from the video game

https://i.imgflip.com/2z712o.jpg?a478368

[sly trout]

lmao

[topaz herald]

learn how to cancel dodges with jumps and dashes so you can do follow ups on attacks. also be patient bugs doesn't approach but pokes and punishes

[modern cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/comments/1ehfhvy/bugs_bunny_mains_what_am_i_doing_wrong_what_do_i/
can someone maybe take a look at a game of mine and tell me what to change in my behavior? I feel like im stuck in gold lmao

[sly trout]

First off

I think it's the match up, I believe now Tom is a better mage than bugs

but some things I see is you're not utilizing bugs floating ability

[modern cloak]

yeah its super annoying but i see myself having similar issues with samurai jack, black adam and some other rare cases. i just cant win against some characters

[sly trout]

you also need to use your projectiles more and more efficiently

your projectiles should pose a threat, or control space for you

[modern cloak]

so like im kinda wasting them?

[sly trout]

In the clip yea, you used the rocket way too low

projectiles should confirm a kill or set you up to confirm a kill (using down air or up air)

or a combo

[modern cloak]

okay thats fair

ill try to work on it

i feel like i waste my safe so many times

[sly trout]

also utilize pie more often, it can be unpredictable considering you can change the trajectory of it

[charred crag]

bait out his Side B, otherwise yeah he's a combo king. You can't do much once he gets near

[topaz herald]

Yea especially rocket, instead of side rocket use uprocket more, not only can it kill confirm into upair but its a great way to have control over an area of the stage

[timid rock]

samurai jack is an everyone problem it seems like lol

[empty aurora]

what do you guys think the best perks are for bugs? i feel like he hasn’t been doing a lot of damage lately

[copper estuary]

Puglist,Speed Force and Snowball or Thats Flammble doc

And Coming through Doc for the Signature Perk

[topaz herald]

I like the over 100 weaken cause bugs is great at surviving high percents

[copper estuary]

How do you even beat SJ with Bugs

[worldly pagoda]

Use his projectiles more often and try to use his jab.

Essentially gatekeep yourself away from Jack since he outranges most of Bugs's options

[copper estuary]

I FINALLY HIT PLAT WITH BUGS RAHHHHH

[sly trout]

https://tenor.com/view/im-so-proud-of-you-cameo-im-happy-for-you-you-make-me-proud-good-job-gif-19250708

[copper estuary]

Im not gonna bother going master

For

[sly trout]

I did it for the reward

wasn't too bad

hopefully they can improve the rank system, because I feel like the matchmaking is a bit iffy but glad ranked is in the game

[copper estuary]

Im glad ranked is here so i see what im doing wrong and counter my opp

Its just Agent Smith and my mentality was weighing me down

[sly trout]

Yea I wish it prioritizes rank more than your public mmr, I be getting golds and plat now that I’m master and got Masters and Diamonds when I was gold lol

[sly trout]

Just take a break, this game shouldn’t make you feel like you have to play

[copper estuary]

I was fighting a plat 5 Gizmo in gold

[copper estuary]

Yea fair

[sly trout]

Prayers for your mental 🙏

[copper estuary]

Yea i not gonna bother going for master bc imma end up with Joker levers of insanity

[sly trout]

True, it did feel that way sometimes, and I feel like ones is a bit more mental draining than 2s

[copper estuary]

I dont like playing 2s bc i either die bc both of the opp team is jumping me or my teammate is dying over and over again

[sly trout]

Yea twos requires you to adapt to the matchups and your teammates playstyle while soloing queueing but I enjoy it

[copper estuary]

Plus i only play it for missions thats it

[sly trout]

Noice

[copper estuary]

You dropping Bugs of the Discord name?

[sly trout]

Yea I'm too far to hit #1 bugs, plus I wanna play Tom and Wonder Woman more, and maybe try a finding another side main

[copper estuary]

TnJ are alot more fun and more respected across the community

[sly trout]

Yea Beta and Release Bugs scarred people

[copper estuary]

I didnt really see them that often same with T&J

It was mostly Harley or Finn

But i do know is a cracked TnJ is terrifying

[sly trout]

Beta Bugs was the Top tier for 1s and Release bugs had the safe glitch and it was easier to connect multiple nairs

[copper estuary]

And a Damage blender

[sly trout]

I think Tom and Jerry is better than Bugs in certain situations

[copper estuary]

The downside to T&J is they are light and weak to heavily armored characters and

[sly trout]

true

[copper estuary]

Jerry dies easily

And if you dont get someone in the paddle you cannot cancel it

[sly trout]

Yea but if you play 2s with a Wonder Woman or someone who can launch Horizontally and play in the front, it's the best feeling you can get

[granite crater]

true, it leaves Tom VERYYY vulnerable

[copper estuary]

If your at a high percent well your gone

[granite crater]

at some points u just gotta die yk

u gotta accept it

[copper estuary]

Or you didnt charge it

[inner owl]

Can Bugs Bunny cancel out of Down Special at any time?

[unkempt notch]

Jump to exit the burrow early. It won't attack though

[crude kiln]

Any combos

[topaz herald]

now that ranked is best two out of three i may give it a shot

[topaz herald]

you can input an attack right after the jump

[inner owl]

Weird... I had somebody online cancel it freely into air side Smash

[crude kiln]

Makes it take 10 minutes a game and not 3

[topaz herald]

There is no serious competition that only does a single game, its ranked not casual so if a set is too long for you stick to casual

All ranked modes in fighting games should be best 2 out of three

[crude kiln]

After a game, Im pretty sure a BG handed the controller to his older brother. Also, I like ranked, but I dont have enough time in my day for 10 minute games

[topaz herald]

Run a tourney, play until you lose two sets

And ranked modes take time if you want to climb

[empty aurora]

what perk is better for bugs speed force assist or the 100 perk?

[sly trout]

I use collateral damage to be honest, but I'd say use Last Stand

[topaz herald]

100 if you can play campy and be patient

[proud warren]

How do you helicopter with that one animation that makes bugs cross his feet?

[modern cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MultiVersus/s/OVe8eR9jzC can y’all give me feedback for my bugs comp lmao

[copper quartz]

Hold the jump button. It makes him fall slower

[proud warren]

thank you

[charred crag]

That's Fllamablle

[empty aurora]

who do you guys watch on youtube for multiversus??

[lost pumice]

Usually news stuff or reviews.

[sly trout]

void

[modern cloak]

#clips message is this a bugs bunny bug???

[sly trout]

definitely

[topaz herald]

Void recently did a video of using bugs and def worth watching him

[copper estuary]

And managed to nail Master rank to the wall

[sly trout]

are we surprised though, he's nuts at any game he picks up

[modern cloak]

finally joined the top 100 bugs bunny today

[topaz herald]

Congrats

[floral flume]

Morning fellow Bugs people!

[sly trout]

Morning

[floral flume]

[lament eagle]

the bnnuy

[unkempt notch]

the literally bugs buddy

[hidden gate]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableJazzyLEDHassanChop-M5eMzfI0xS_KUrkW

pls fix this

[topaz herald]

Oh yea i have had that happen where if you fastfall facing the ledge it kills you

[sly trout]

happens alot when you're between the rocket and wall or floor and rocket

[coarse geyser]

is there a bugs discord for bugs mains?

[green wagon]

Bugged Bunny

[pseudo sapphire]

A Harley Quinn used her neutral air and started riding my rocket (pause). Is that supposed to happen? She landed on it but didnt blow up?

[charred crag]

TionLoast :^)

[unkempt notch]

Only the front triggers the explosion. Enemies can ride on the rear

Assuming this is a horizontal rocket

[sly trout]

nah enemies can ride the rocket too

surprised more people don't know that

[pseudo sapphire]

She was on the front

On the purple part

[sly trout]

idk what to tell ya

the rocket is kinda buggy

I guess

[pseudo sapphire]

Hitboxes in general are. I swear I hit ppl and they just don’t take knockback

[sly trout]

Would love to see how multiversus manages its hitboxes

[coarse geyser]

have hitbox pictures on bugs, batman, stripe and steven from the in game hitbox enabler we could use before not all of their moves but a few

[sly trout]

oh cool

hopefully PFG can fix how hitbox detection works

[coarse geyser]

im pretty sure its just rollback failing or the hitboxes are as insane as they were when we could see them in game XD

[sly trout]

lol

I feel like most of the time it's client sided what makes hitboxes look stupid, but who knows

[coarse geyser]

i can send you them in dm if you wanna see and decide for yourself :p

[sly trout]

alright

[umbral venture]

Best perks for Bugs

Pls

[coarse geyser]

i would say fire/100/melee

[umbral venture]

Its good?

For damage

[candid mural]

personally i think snowball effect over fire otherwise good

and obviously tunnel perk as ur main

all the others are awful

[coarse geyser]

so snowball is better then fire now?

[candid mural]

i think so, especially in dubs if ur teammate has it

i think its more difficult to hit projectiles in singles, u get more mileage from more overall damage

[coarse geyser]

true actually

alright good to know :)

[umbral venture]

Them, which combination I should pick?

[coarse geyser]

snowball/100/melee

[topaz herald]

After immediately coming out the rovket doesnt explode forca solid moment

[stark thorn]

Are there any bugs bunny discord servers?

[placid ingot]

Alright Bugs Bunny mains, what do you all think is Bugs' best and worst move, and why do you think that specific move is his best or worst?

[sly trout]

His best move is a toss up between Up air, tunnel, or nair and his worst move without a doubt is side special on the ground or down air

[placid ingot]

Interesting

[sly trout]

both the heart and down air is to risky for bugs imo

and his best moves should be self-explanatory

[placid ingot]

What if Bugs has the heart perk where the heart stays a bit? Would that make side special better than down air?

I ain't doubtin' ya, just curious if that would make it better

[sly trout]

nah just because the tunnel perk is miles better than the heart perk imo

[placid ingot]

True

[sly trout]

plus going out of tunnel with the shock creates a confirm with up air, or you can combo with nair

[placid ingot]

Would any other Bugs mains like to put in their thoughts for a more precise answer?

[unkempt notch]

Bat is very strong and kiss is too slow to land except in a few 2v2 scenarios

Lingering Love was useful in the beta due to the higher speed of play. Now with the slower movement and endlag, you have much less time to act with a lingering kiss in play. Coming Through Doc is the better pick in almost all cases

[topaz herald]

uprocket and upair are the best moves. uprockect is just the best projectile in the game point blank period, it combos to kills it's essentially a wall that can take control of a part of the stage and people can often forget about it

[topaz herald]

kind of hard disagree down air is amazing for combos and offstage play

also i do like using kiss for edge guarding

[sly trout]

the only time I use it is after nair and for nothing else

IMO I think it's one of bugs weaker moves

[topaz herald]

you can use it to combo into fair up smash up air for kills at mid percents

also you can combo some characters at low percents from upsmash into down air

[umbral venture]

And the comin through dov?

[umbral venture]

1. Snowball Effect
2. Speed force assist
3. Pugilist

[coarse geyser]

alright good to know :)

[scenic pond]

Best is definitely up air and the worst one is the nair special when on safe cooldown

It has such a small hitbox

I wish u could put videos in threads

I put some bugs comboes in #combos

[granite crater]

i wish they added more items in the box

meh

[green wagon]

I don’t think it outright beats it, but it can stuff it out bc of the difference in startup frames

[modern cloak]

finally bugs bunny diamond

whats yalls opinion on safe in the air? my friends keep telling me to stop doing that cause it kills me often but it also often gets me kills

yeah but the farer you are the more likely it is to get a 20% death

my friend plays harley and he always just up specials me when i do that and im gone

😭

but i feel like its dangerous with numerous characters like jack or finn for example

i very rarely encounter reindogs tbh

whats ur rank?

sheeesh whos your main

yeah i hope mid season patch will fix this game again

ranked is unbearable

[copper estuary]

Im now returning to Bugs does anyone have any Bugs Combos to prevent the nair nerf

[granite crater]

it all depends on the situation
sometimes you wanna safe in the air or just plop down the trap

you gotta be unpredictable as bugs

[topaz herald]

Its an amazing edge gaurd tool

[topaz herald]

Learning how to do dodge canceled jumps will greatly help extend combos dince you can combo off ftilt and fair if they bounce off the ground.

[copper estuary]

You mean dodge Jumping?

[umbral venture]

Its a question

They are good?

And the sign?

[copper estuary]

Fighting Arya is the most AGONISING character to fight

[umbral venture]

Do you know a good sign?

Is the kissing one good?

[granite crater]

yeah, it gives bugs another option to use and it's good for traps or approaching opponents (usually ledge guarding)

the burrowing one is also good for if you wanna use the holes and make ppl deal dmg

[topaz herald]

she's such a pain but the moment she's off stage you need to capitalize

[copper estuary]

I cant get her off stage bc that insta on the opp sword thing gets me

[flat ether]

Who is this 5.1k wins guy

well he sucks

[sly trout]

What are you on about?

[copper estuary]

Is the hole perk better than Lingering Love?

[sly trout]

Yes

[copper estuary]

How can use the perk well (Not Lingering Love)

[sly trout]

Coming through doc is best used in combination with the up air (bat) for confirms at high percents (90%-100%), and if the opponent is at a low percent you can use the stun to combo into either nair or down air

[scenic pond]

Jab punch to forward dodge to jab to ground up to nair

It works at 0 for all characters

U can do it at mid percentages with bigger units

[topaz herald]

How do you guys fight rick? Hes a struggle match up for me

[sly trout]

close the gap

[topaz herald]

How do i get past jab? I lose to his jab everytime

[sly trout]

you can use pie

pie will force him to jump or dodge

and if he uses an attack you can punish during the whiff recovery

[topaz herald]

How punishable is his jab? Cause i can’t get a good punish on it though do i wait for the second hit?

[sly trout]

yea sorta

also most ricks I play like to play horizontally, so try to make them play vertical

[topaz herald]

What do you do to force that?

[sly trout]

tunnel

safe

Up smash

[hidden gate]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EnjoyableJazzyLEDHassanChop-M5eMzfI0xS_KUrkW

pls fix this

[topaz herald]

The only map i really dislike for bugs is the haunted mansion

[jade creek]

I like the bugs bunny

[signal glade]

Can someone send bug setups

Or inv me to a bugs main server

[sly trout]

Bugs has limited combo setups

[signal glade]

Well just neutral setups

[sly trout]

Foward jab into nair, down air is a combo everyone seems to get hit by

and for confirms, it's up tilt into nair, into up air or just up tilt into up air depending on percentages

[copper estuary]

How to fight Arya im sick of Toxic onws

[topaz heath]

down mallet spin punch down mallet spin punch then bat

[topaz herald]

Uprocket is a fantastic setup both ways.

Also a slow moving pie can force them to do something

You can also charge fairs for spacing and if they hit you can dodge cancel follow ups if they bounce off the ground

[flat ether]

@hollow tundra

i hate you

[mild forum]

Does the "Total Damage Dealt" badge for Bugs exist? I thought I saw one while watching a stream but I still couldn't find it in-game.

[pulsar vector]

Bugs main been quiet since yall cant turn into a beyblade no more

lol scum

[sly trout]

I don't think it does to be honest

[copper estuary]

Bc we have lives

[pulsar vector]

Nah thats not it scum

[copper estuary]

This is defo ragebait

[unkempt notch]

Thems fightin' woids

[green wagon]

His name gives it away

[topaz herald]

Elmer fudd saying what wb won’t allow him to on the cartoons. Wabbit season

[pulsar vector]

How is it rage bait?

[copper estuary]

We wanted the Loops to be removed

[topaz herald]

Elmer fudd is just upset constantly getting blue balled by bugs in drag

[modern cloak]

bugs bunny without the wall fatigue is worse yet again

[topaz herald]

What are you talking about? You can uprocket and bugs is one of the best at offstage pressure so everyone getting less wall fatigue helps him. He can float he can uprocket and stall much better than anyone else

Bugs safe to down air will be even more deadly since they can’t keep stalling on the wall

[modern cloak]

staying on the wall as bugs and waiting to give them the OP up air was pretty good for people camping you

[topaz herald]

Yea upair is still amazing and you still stall with floating which very few other characters have a comparable option to

Also if you have rocket you can use it to get out

[sly trout]

Wdym without the wall fatigue

[modern cloak]

they are changing how long you can stay on the side of the map

[copper estuary]

Yall did yall hear Bugs beta voicelines?

[sly trout]

no but his rocket works like beta now

[copper estuary]

And new

[copper estuary]

I heard YER OUT

Plus nehhh SHADDUP

(New voice line)

[sly trout]

I heard that one

[copper estuary]

I bet they added that to the Finn mains

It brings me joy Finn got slaughtered by nerfs

[sly trout]

I think Mirrorman was testing it and I think you can still do it

but I'm not sure

[copper estuary]

Do what

[sly trout]

Finn Combo

[copper estuary]

Did it still work?

[sly trout]

I'm testing it out and it could work but DI'ing seems it'd prevent that

[copper estuary]

Im guessing the removed the Vacuum back

Bag

Ive figured it how not to die to untrud 0td

[sly trout]

they got rid of the Nair jump affect

[copper estuary]

I wonder why they didnt change Bugs?

[sly trout]

wdym

[copper estuary]

Like Nerf or Buff hik

Him

[sly trout]

He’s pretty balanced

[copper estuary]

All i wanted to have his safe more health

Not prepatch health

[topaz herald]

Wheres the full patch notes?

[copper estuary]

On the Reddit and the offical Multiverus website

[copper estuary]

Any Bugs tips and Tricks?

[vestal hound]

Yall got any combos for bugs...

[modern cloak]

bro they really slaughtered bugs

half of his attacks dont hit like they used to

[copper estuary]

No?

[modern cloak]

yes

it feels horrible sometimes

[copper estuary]

What are you smoking

[granite crater]

ayyy nice bugs got buffs

[modern cloak]

what 😭

[granite crater]

like yk, the rocket sending ppl sideways and not being able to be teched on
also the fixes help too

[topaz herald]

Also the wall fatigue benefits bugs because hes one of the few characters with ways to delay beyond wall with floating and rockets

[granite crater]

TRUE

[hollow tundra]

Yessir just hit master with bugs

[sly trout]

Bugs didnt get slaughtered bro

[topaz herald]

also just ralized i'm in top 100 of bugs 1v1s, yays

[modern cloak]

slaughtered was maybe the wrong word but he does feel very different imo

[sly trout]

Bugs feels way better with the patch

[copper estuary]

He feels alot smoother to play

They ironed him out

[sly trout]

I think they can buff his side air though

[modern cloak]

okay maybe i’m just bad if everyone says he’s better lol

[copper estuary]

More knockback or damage?

[sly trout]

I meant side special, my fault

[copper estuary]

Ah the kiss

Id say

[sly trout]

I cannot use it, even with the perk

[copper estuary]

Bigger hitbox

No point using it if your not using Lingering Love

[sly trout]

I think it should apply weakened and or slow and do 10 damage without the perk

[copper estuary]

Charmed is good tho makes your opp stunned

[sly trout]

yea but it's too risky

[copper estuary]

Yeaaa true

Well i can say is make the heart bigger and less wind up for the kiss to come out

[copper estuary]

Does anyone have any Bugs combos?

[topaz herald]

I use it for edge gaurding

[sly trout]

Side air into side jab into up air into nair and lastly into down air or up air depending on the situation

[flat ether]

best combo is paddle into paddle into paddle

jerry throw mixup eveyr now and then

[foggy lake]

Very difficult combo

Especially when You paddle and then paddle

[flat ether]

I thought I was in t and j chat haha

[foggy lake]

Shoulda used paddle to go back to the channel

In fact im using Paddle to type rn 😎

[heady plinth]

what is bugs worst match up

[scenic pond]

a decent joker

cuz his purple juice breaks all of bug's projectiles

[copper estuary]

And Steven

[granite crater]

i wish they made his tunnel last longer
or made the cooldown shorter

or better yet, make it so you can only use it 5 times before it fully dissapears

[copper estuary]

How to beat Arya as Bugs?

[honest rock]

They need to bring back where safe doesn’t destroy after hitting a wall and bounces off

if anyone is in a Bugs main discord please send us a invite 🙏

[copper estuary]

I can prob make one if i can

[sly trout]

I think they need to give it 5 hits

instead of 3 Hits IMO

[regal river]

yeah considering any armor break move immedietly destroys it

[sly trout]

yea

I feel like it should have a property where only bugs and his teamate can hit it 3-4 times, and it takes oppenents 6-8 hits to break it

[rough pulsar]

Safe going through the tunnel should count as a new launch

[sly trout]

it does?

you mean when it falls from the sky into tunnel or gets hit into tunnel?

[rough pulsar]

When you bounce it off ground, hits someone then make a tunnel to launch it of stage to hit them again.... But it doesn't work

[sly trout]

if its the same person it wont work

[rough pulsar]

I know but it should, the tunnel should count as a new launch

The safe lost versatility, it literally just drop and launch.

[sly trout]

I mean

if they don't plan on giving safe a few extra hp then yea

[topaz herald]

yea 3 hits is really bad in 2v2s and even in solos it's not too useful

[sly trout]

yea

[dark fossil]

I found a new tech

[sly trout]

👀

[dark fossil]

If you throw a pie, say you threw it left, and hit it the other way, the pie sends the way you threw it, idk if this is useful but it can get some swag combos

Works the other way too

[copper estuary]

Does anyone have any Bugs combos? Please ping me in the combos char if you have some ill let you know if i know them or nor

[rough pulsar]

nair, pummel, up kick, jump, nair , side special, nair, bat......... usually nair+whatever flows together. use 'coming through doc' for a safer ground approach.

side special after rocket

[copper estuary]

Yea ik that

The combo

[sly trout]

bugs doesnt have too much combos to be honest

[copper estuary]

He doesnt?

[sly trout]

Other than the side jab into kick into nair into up air. Yea

[copper estuary]

Damn

[sly trout]

you probably can setup combos with safe and rocket but that's hard

[copper estuary]

Im just been looking to expand my Bugs gameplay

[sly trout]

I haven’t been playing bugs recently though

[copper estuary]

Damn in a character crisis?

[sly trout]

Not really just having fun with Tom n Jerry

[topaz herald]

he does but they require dash canceling

especially on bigger bodies he can loop up smash nair at lower percents

[sly trout]

I'm not tryna waste dodges

the game punishes you too much for it as is

[topaz herald]

it literally gets you kill combos are 70-80% on most of the cast

jab into upsmash into nair into upair is a killer confirm

also if a fair ground bounces you can follow up

[sly trout]

I knew that

but Bugs just got boring, I still enjoy him but I have more fun with Tom and Jerry right now

[topaz herald]

that's fair fun is subjective bugs constant looney toons setups are too much fun for me

[sly trout]

it's mainly becuase Bugs projectiles are not what they were

it makes it balanced but not fun

where Toms strength IMO lays on his projectile game

[topaz herald]

uprocket is the best and most fun projectile imo

also i don't know the tom and jerry matchup but i hate fighting him upclose and much prefer dealing with his projectiles

[sly trout]

Mainly it’s Jerry

Jerry is Tom’s best projectile without a doubt

[topaz herald]

oh yea def

[sly trout]

I'd even argue Jerry is one of the best projectiles across all fighting platformers but thats just me

[topaz herald]

all platformers is a pretty bold statement but one of the top 3 or 5 in the game def

same with uprocket imo

also hit master rank today so yay

[sly trout]

Nice

1v1s, or 2v2s?

[hidden gate]

anyone wanna play bugs mirrors?

[topaz herald]

1v1s

[copper estuary]

How to fight Harley and Arya as Bugs?

[honest rock]

any bugs main discords ?

[broken raptor]

What's the condition for the safe to bounce on the stage after being dropped?

[rough pulsar]

Drop it on your rocket or someone's head.

[broken raptor]

Great thank you

[topaz herald]

arya is tricky but stay away from her when she's on the ground and when she's offstage you need to keep pushing cause that's where you have the biggest advantage also mind her throwing dagger and wait till she uses it before putting a safe down since it one hits safe

[charred crag]

How the heck am i supposed to face Finn player?

[rough pulsar]

Don't try to challenge him directly. Set up traps.

[neon patrol]

I have arrived.

[topaz herald]

Challange his combos and di down

[topaz herald]

Most of his strings aren’t true and you do far better throwing put nairs and dairs instead of sir dodging, if you air dodge against anything but the slow charge in a combo you pretty much die

[mild nimbus]

How to fight Gizmo as Bugs?

[gloomy drift]

by getting better, I just watched you get cooked😂

[primal axle]

I can help you lets play

[gloomy drift]

LMAO

[flat ether]

why does bug upair still kill at 90 from the bottom of the stage?

[mild nimbus]

How to get out of Bugs disavantage state?

[topaz herald]

Depends on the character but a character like finn its best to try and trade or throw out a nair or dair to interupt thier strings. Also use the uprocket and when its close to coming down stat in the general area and they will have to stop to avoid it

[mild nimbus]

Im trying to do not be a highly aggessive Bugs

So im stuck rn

[frozen gull]

How is bugs vs Jason match up

[mild nimbus]

Awful for Jason

[leaden oxide]

if you dont win u might be bad

[frozen gull]

Damn is the match up that bad

[frozen gull]

Yea I was asking because a lot Jason’s but it as one of the worst

[topaz herald]

Against finn you need to be aggressive in his strings. Different characters require different approaches and being passive while finn does his strings on you will always get you killed

[mild nimbus]

Waddya mean aggressive in his strings

[frozen gull]

Where would you guys rank bugs bunny

And don’t be like those joker downplayers who say joker isn’t top 5🙏

[topaz herald]

anytime you have a chance to air dodge against you finn you are better off throwing out a nair or dair, if you air dodge in finns strings you will get killed 90% of the time, the majority of the time i lose against finn i can go to at least one instance where doing an air dodge got me killed

[mild nimbus]

High A or mid A

[mild nimbus]

?

[topaz herald]

high tier, he has some of the best projectiles in the game, has one of if not the best offstage gameplay and has solid kill combos 60-90% on pretty much all the cast. however his melee priority is kind of ass

[topaz herald]

most of Finn's strings you have time to throw out an option (Derctional influencing downwards while getting hit helps a bunch) you are better off throwing out a down air or nuetral air instead of dodging. you can often hit finn out of it and even get your own conversions

[mild nimbus]

So do i hit him when hes charging up or

[topaz herald]

when he's charging in neutral it can be tricky i try staying away and poking with jab. also there are certain moves of his you just float and keep away from when you're at kill percents.

[frozen gull]

Damnn

[frozen gull]

Might need to pick him up, what’s his worst match up?

[mild nimbus]

Steven by fair

Far

[topaz herald]

i would disagree

[topaz herald]

Joker would prolly be his worst, anyone who can easily and quickly deal with safe and doesn't need to approach can be tough for him. Joker with his venom really shuts down lots of bugs options

[topaz herald]

against steven you can slap the minion away really easily and you can contest his nair with upair but you have to meet him in the air to do that. also steven can get killed by bugs combos are 50-60 percent

[frozen gull]

50????

[frozen gull]

Yea joker is just a pain to deal with ngl

[topaz herald]

it's important to learn the dodge follow up jump combos cause jab, upsmash, nair upair kills with the jump dodge int he middlke

[frozen gull]

Damn that’s actually insane

[topaz herald]

yea bugs is slept on becuase people relied on anir combos and didn't learn how to dodge jump combo with bughs

which is something most all characters need for their combos

[frozen gull]

My twos partner dropped bugs to play Jason 😭

So I was a bit skeptical of how good bugs was

[frozen gull]

That’s why I asked this incase we 1v1 sometime 😈

[topaz herald]

yea glad he got nerfed cause he def did need some of those but he's in a great place and with all the patches ignoring him that's all the better cause as other characters fluxucate him staying gives more chance for exploration

[frozen gull]

I don’t think bugs is gonna get touched for a long time

Unless a pro finds some bs

[topaz herald]

also not just a matter of good but in terms of fun, Bugs is able do looney toons setups that feel so stafiying to land, getting a kill combo involving a dowards uprocket is one of the most euqphoric feelings.

[topaz herald]

he doesn't need too imo. he's in a fantastic spot and while some small adjustments could be nice keeping him the same is also fine

[topaz herald]

oh also another finn thing, if he has bemo out you need to be extreamly cautious and camp him till you can get a kill cause bemo makes him way deadlier

[frozen gull]

Fun? Nah I barely have fun in competitive games

I play to win rp and log off

[topaz herald]

i personally do but i have gone to local tourneys since my teens

[topaz herald]

then i would say go iron giant he's way easier to learn for better reward since people will have to learn that matchup to fight it in and ranked you could run across enough to level up rp who dont

[frozen gull]

Well even do I mostly play to win I don’t like playing cheesy character or character that alot of people play(ditto matchup)

Well people do play bugs but not as much as other top tiers yk

That’s why I mostly stuck with characters like stripe or lebron

[topaz herald]

okay well if you wanna do bugs and do him well you will need to spend like an afternoon in the lab learning his combos that involve air dodges and especially practicing your follow ups after nair becuase after the nerf it is harder to do stuff after the nair and need to practice it

[frozen gull]

Alright thanks

[mild nimbus]

What about Harley Vs Bugs?

[topaz herald]

harley you have to respect her bat and need to dodge to avoid getting early kills. generally in that matcup you want to be the one below the other one. also a fun fact is the final jab hit jumps you voer her slide dash

[mild nimbus]

Waddya mean one below the other one

[topaz herald]

basically boith characters do better when they have the other character above them, so you want to position yourself below harley

like you want to be the one kocking the other into the air and when you're directly above harley try to get to the sides asap

[mild nimbus]

So fastfalling is effective?

[topaz herald]

as long as it's not directly into the character, you're better off going to to side than fastfalling

also Bugs has way better offstage game to harley but you need to respect her mallet

[mild nimbus]

Parry or dodge

If i cant do anything

[topaz herald]

dodge

also you can float you can out stall her when she does that just float and don't fly in when she;'s trying to stop you from recovering

[mild nimbus]

I REACHED DIAMOND OF BUGS YIPPPEEEE

[topaz herald]

Congrats

[clever estuary]

What's up doc?

[frozen gull]

Nahhhh

I just bought bugs

You was right I’ve been spending 10 minutes tryna hit Nair into upair on dodge away

😭😭 it’s so hard

[topaz herald]

told you, he's good but he requires practice to be good

[mild nimbus]

People are still crying about Bugs💀

[topaz herald]

Multiversus has an overly whiney community in general sadly 😞

[mild nimbus]

Whats happening over there?

[sly trout]

people just seem to dismiss the good in the patches in multiversus, me included

[mild nimbus]

This community is done for....

[sly trout]

yea the tech patch people kept acting like only their main was affected by it even though majority of the fighter list had combos that relied on ground bounces

[mild nimbus]

Plus to stop loops.People need to be greatful for caring devs

[rough pulsar]

Do people not know his NORMALS are trash

[sly trout]

yea, imagine the mvs community with smashes devs

💀

[mild nimbus]

Even League,Valorant and COD would be scared of us.

[sly trout]

LMAO

[mild nimbus]

Low key

[mild nimbus]

The average COD lobby will shatter when a MVS player joins

[sly trout]

probably not to be honest in all honestly

people are getting butt hurt over salt and tbagging

[rough pulsar]

....smash might be more balanced 🙃

[mild nimbus]

Yea i cant say anyting back to that

[mild nimbus]

Ah yes a blocky character can be THE STAGE

[rough pulsar]

Steve is unique

[sly trout]

I do like smash

[mild nimbus]

As a K Rool main in SSBU you dont know the pain fighting Steve as K Rool

[sly trout]

wish it had easier access to play online

[mild nimbus]

Its awful

[sly trout]

IKR

all smash games cannot be played online smoothly unless you're playing on the same console

[mild nimbus]

I dont even how Melee is still being played that game is still broken to hell and back💀

[sly trout]

Melee's fun as hell

[mild nimbus]

Way to fast for me

[sly trout]

thats what I like about

[mild nimbus]

Im more used to Ultimate and Brawlhalla

[sly trout]

Brawlhalla's too vertical for me

[mild nimbus]

Brawlhalla is hella more fluid than MVS

[sly trout]

It looks like it

But I ain't tryna learn a new fighting game

[rough pulsar]

Ngl the whole meta being literally breaking the game and, bouncing a round with the slightest of control nudges was too much for me. But I love Melee on the basic level.

[mild nimbus]

And that game came out in 2017 i think i could be wrong

[sly trout]

yea, but apparently someone won a tourney with Dk who is bottom tier if I'm not mistaken

[mild nimbus]

Same with Yoshi

[sly trout]

Yea

[rough pulsar]

Lots of people are picking up DK recently

[sly trout]

I think the only "Broken character" is Ice Climbers, no further explaination

[sly trout]

that's so valid

[mild nimbus]

I saw ChunkyKong beat Sparg0

Sparg0 was playing Aegis

[sly trout]

on melee or ultimate?

[mild nimbus]

Ultimate