combos

[wicked coral]

ur parry game is sick I wasnt planning on fr playing rn but ig il run a few

[solar owl]

Any mistakes I made?

[wicked coral]

you got hit by a bunch of stuff that isnt true

mainly strings, remember ppg doesnt have combos anymore. Its crazy that you're outranging my sair with your jab LMFAO

[solar owl]

Damn

[wicked coral]

im gonna regret telling you this, but if you see you're getting jabbed by ppg and youthink ima jab jab phone you, Hold away. maybe up and away its character dependant, I promise you will fly out of the combo

[solar owl]

Good shi bro

You know ppg has Tods right

[wicked coral]

they dont anymore. Anything they had got removed, All the ones you're thinking of most likely involved jab jab phone or nair into scream, (neither of which doesnt combo anymore) nair doesnt combo into literally ANYTHING anymore

[solar owl]

Wth he'll haw that's so lame

I hate patch culture bruh

[wicked coral]

idm ztd's being removed, i hate zero to deaths. But they just straight up cant combo anymore so all the freedom and expression they had is gone cause you cant nair neutral special or nair dashattack anymore.

you can remove the zero to deaths though without killing their combo game though. by changing how certain moves work or launch angles or whatever. but they didnt go that route :c so it just sucks

you holding away on jab jab phone? its WAYYY too consistent on you. @solar owl

[solar owl]

I'm a slow learner

[wicked coral]

I see, just remember to hold away, and you dont get combod like ever

[primal ivy]

yo anyone got some bugs combos

[wicked coral]

surprised that hit me, but tbf i shouldnt be im playing ppg, they get clipped when they shouldnt lol

[solar owl]

Almost sold the game

[solar owl]

And yeah there big

@wicked coral good patients

[wicked coral]

thanks.

dair angling is so funny dude

[tough kernel]

Harley main?

[wicked coral]

since beta

[tough kernel]

Mained garnet in beta

[solar owl]

Morty for me

[wicked coral]

she was so limited back then, literally just jab the character lmao

[tough kernel]

Bro Ong it was like that

[wicked coral]

il play one more didnt want to play too long

[solar owl]

Ighty

[toxic tree]

How did you manage this

[solar owl]

@wicked coral GGs goo shi

[wicked coral]

ggs dude.

was fun, thanks for showing me how busted smith is. and also how to mixup di against him, i think i have to di up but thats also bad for tons of reasons. Disadvantage sucks. I just die at 50 sometimes

[solar owl]

Your welcome

[wicked coral]

anywho take it easy, see ya. If you have any bits of advice drop em idm

@solar owl

[solar owl]

Np I've learned that I gotta air dodge approach like you where doing I never did that before

[wicked coral]

I meant for me, to make me better lol. And yeah I saw the boy void doing it a few years ago and was like yeah that makes sense

[iron verge]

Arya stark op

[toxic tree]

I’ve been trying to replicate it since yesterday

[iron verge]

What part specifically are you messing up

[toxic tree]

The dtilt and dair

[iron verge]

Are u doing it on a finn bot

[toxic tree]

No shaggy I had it on him one time but that it

[iron verge]

Then he's gotta be slightly higher % for jab dair i think, try 20 if u wanna do it on shaggy if not swap it to finn and it works at 0

[toxic tree]

Ok Ty

[iron verge]

@chrome tartan flower bug fixed

[spare saddle]

that right there is why I said don’t learn it last night 😂

[tough kernel]

BRUH WHY CANT PPL JUST HOLD L INSTEAD OF HIUNTING ME DOWN ON PS 💀 I can't even play new character without hate man😭

[chrome tartan]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO LET IT BE KNOWN WTF

[iron verge]

everyone knew about it lmao joker was tournament banned

[chrome tartan]

Being banned just for that is insane 😭

[iron verge]

it was broken

[tough kernel]

Someone called me a spammer for doing this...

Its not my fault you keep approaching the same way over and over again

[astral mango]

he didnt saw chaggy hhhhhhhhh

[shrewd kiln]

u still haven't figured it out? bro, Powerpuff Girls have a kill confirm at 10% and higher. that might as well be a zero to death

[sour rune]

How come when i fight a Raven, if i parry her side ground attack (the 3-hit attack) it doesn't her stun like a parry should? Like the attack acts like its a projectile when it visually is not

[shrewd kiln]

'cuz it is a projectile that is separate from her body. it can even be reflected

[rich saffron]

Jake getting 24 damage off of these two attack is bit much ngl especially considering how much jake player throw this move out

[frosty harbor]

Buh bye

[frosty harbor]

This move does Shaggy levels of damage and knockback, it's absurd
Steven's nair is a similar offender: high damage and very easy to land (but weak knockback)

[shrewd kiln]

i don't see anything wrong with it. they wanted to incentivize Jake being an aerial bruiser. it only makes him exceptional in 1v1s and great for 2v2s

[iron verge]

Jake is really busted/good but no one ready for that convo🤕

[rich saffron]

fr

[iron verge]

Moices is starting to play him in tourneys so maybe ppl will start to see

[frosty harbor]

Jake falls into the sleeper category
Rarely played, but powerful when played correctly
Same case with Gizmo
I haven't seen one Jake struggle to fight

[snow cloak]

it’s literally just edge gaurding

[unborn stone]

I’m edging

[snow cloak]

ayo🤨

[shrewd kiln]

that's crazy

[lucid carbon]

yeah 99% of jake players kinda crutch a really small amount of their kit. I wont slander the character since there are SOME people who have cool skill expression, but its really limited to a few players.

some jakes out here hitting GM/high rank and killing people far too early without much skill :/

[tough kernel]

It's a projectile my guy

[tough kernel]

IKKKK 😭😭😭 I guess that's spam now

[winged copper]

Nubia 70% kill confirm

[shrewd kiln]

should I ruin the game until the next patch?

[tough kernel]

Leave this vicinity immediately. Your a danger to this game

[winged copper]

Don’t worry Nubias jab is hard to hit in neutral

[tough kernel]

Bro u can pull that off tho that's the thing

Like bro Ik u hit all your jabs

[winged copper]

I got more broken stuff I wanna test our in ranked

[tough kernel]

Bro cooking up something devious

[shrewd kiln]

@zealous flax who do I talk to about combos?

[winged copper]

don’t get Nubia nerfed

[shrewd kiln]

it's not Nubia

[winged copper]

Alright, I hope some of Aryas combos get gutted. Next patch

[shrewd kiln]

actually, frick it ima just post it. I don't play that much when there's no shields anyways

works on all medium-heavy weights and heavy weights

https://xboxclips.com/AZARA3L/a59b5ba1-e1bf-42c0-aed4-6310825172b1

[shadow fable]

Been playing Joker recently to figure out stuff. I agree with some things not really working consistently. I feel like I have an idea of what works now after a 100+ games with him. Never played him in any of the seasons prior, so I was learning from scratch.

[wicked coral]

if you know what it is stop gotekeeping lmfao, share it and il agree you're right.

[shrewd kiln]

i already did

[wicked coral]

where is it?

[shrewd kiln]

that. I hope they patch it

[wicked coral]

Im pretty sure you can avoid the ground bounce with di up from scream, still MIGHT be true up till that side b, Also side b shouldnt be comboing into nair like, literally EVER. with proper di. so if anything this is extremely niche and relies on the opponent to DI bad, I dont think they should have ztd's at all cause I think ztds are extremely lame, but still dont think this one is realistic in the slightest, cool find though.

regardless it puts you in a terrible position which is still really good, but I dont think its a "kill confirm" its more likely a kill setup that can be avoided if the other person just reacts to what you're doing and has proper DI.

a kill confirm is inescapable like jab 1 upsmash and works universally across the cast.

I really do hope PFG adds DI options for the bot in training mode, it will unironically fix so many issues with people finding combos atm. Have a setting for dodge away and a setting for DI.

[shrewd kiln]

u had problems with people using DI-away and because of that u couldn't use grounded down-attack. now they'll have to think about if they want to use DI-away. there's not gonna be any casual players using DI-up and for certain not everyone knows that

[rich saffron]

This is true, For the longest time I would use di away until I ran into a jab looping superman and had to learn to adapt

[tough kernel]

Satisfying to hit true

Forgot to add jump sair into bubble loop

[winged copper]

Ppg is so annoying nothings changed

[tough kernel]

Air dash for sure did

[winged copper]

And now they have a smaller hurtbox so it’s harder to hit this character zooming around❓❓❓

[shrewd kiln]

the funny part is PPG can actually fast-fall their aerial up-special so even if u don't want to go for that variation it'll only take one dodge read to KO an opponent

[wicked coral]

dude they have a year to react after getting hit with scream lmao

[dusty hill]

The fast fall on that move is ridiculous lol it's so strong now

[shrewd kiln]

it's something. PFG better watch out

[wicked coral]

you know that got nerfed HARD right? you used to be able to do it WAY earlier. and it used to be infinitely better, you can only do it when endlag starts lol

[tough kernel]

You can fast fall a recovery action?💀

[winged copper]

They should have changed upspecial. Went against a ppg today, I actually believed ppg got gutted because everyone keeps saying it.

I was literally getting hit by the same nair - upspecial combos, the only difference is no airdash after nair. That’s it

[wicked coral]

you can fast fall everything lmfao

[wicked coral]

nair doesnt combo into anything anymore if you're getting hit by it thats a skill issue cause its just a string now

[tough kernel]

Oh yea I forgor

[winged copper]

Nair - upspecial was never true in the first place. But it was always a problem

[dusty hill]

it's not a true combo but its a strong KO move if you can read 1 dodge

[tough kernel]

Yea just realized what I read 😭

[winged copper]

“Skill issue” - oh boy 🤦‍♂️

[tough kernel]

Who are you referring to?

[wicked coral]

this is literally impossible now you know that right? Yall love spreading missinformation lmao

[tough kernel]

I literally said it's gone now...

Awhile back actually

[wicked coral]

oh my fault didnt see that, sorry.

[tough kernel]

All good man

[tough kernel]

Right here to be exact

[wicked coral]

it is not a "strong ko move" lmaooo, a strong ko move is upstrong or sair

[shrewd kiln]

that's what I'm saying. they been restricting some characters from being able to fast fall while using an attack. PPG shouldn't be an exception with their fast n' strong horizontal up-special, they should have to wait a little bit longer

[tough kernel]

No as part of the one 0 to death it got nerfed that's why you can't do the combo I just demonstrated

[wicked coral]

they literally were restricted, please go read patch notes lmao

[shrewd kiln]

well clearly it's not enough

[wicked coral]

i disagree, but fair enough

if its made any worse its not gonna be useful during edgeguards, its already really slow as it is and pretty easy to avoid with an airdodge

[tough kernel]

Yea bro the air dash attack 0 to death I was talking Abt tho

[winged copper]

It’s not. No one can say with a straight face bubbles upspecial is balanced

[wicked coral]

its a good move sure, but its pretty weak all things considered people are learning how to di it lol

[shrewd kiln]

I didn't say anything about changing the frame data of the attack I said they should be restricted from fast-falling after landing a hit

[tough kernel]

Who ever does believe that belongs in arkham

[wicked coral]

which means the frame you could fast fall on it would be worse, which means the move would be wrose, which means the framedata would be worse. I was just mentioning that its not a fast move at the moment

[shrewd kiln]

it will not be worse it'll be the same exact move, just fair now

[wicked coral]

it already is fair bro, they can only use it 2x in the air, its slow so you can react to it and on top of all that bubbles up special has very little knockback. If you di Up and in it doesnt send you at that bad of an angle either it just sends you up and away. which is an extremely easy angle to recover from.

[shrewd kiln]

it is not slow. u've been downplaying them the entire time that I have been talking to u lol

[wicked coral]

IT IS SLOW ITS LIKE FRAME 20+. If thats not slow nothing is.

its slightly faster than sair, and sair is extremely slow.

[tough kernel]

Check dms

[wicked coral]

also im not downplaying them just to complain, Im just preaching what I see, if Im wrong Il cop to that 100%. Id be happy to be proven wrong.

[shrewd kiln]

U HAVE A NEUTRAL-AIR THAT HITS IN A 360 DEGREE ANGLE MR. CAPTICAL LETTERS. if u edge guard one dodge, the next dodge is the most predictable one ever especially because up-special has more priority over many other attacks so it can't even be challenged

[wicked coral]

it being "predictable" is the opponents fault seeing as they still have two specials a dodge AND two jumps, its not my fault they dont shmix.

[shrewd kiln]

then u up-special their up-special because again, u can't be challenge. PFG should go ahead and tune PPG down once more it would actually make the game healthy

[wicked coral]

so dont challenge it? You have space out there in the blastzone, I know its scary being that close but you can still drift away from ppg and avoid that upspecial. Its not impossible to avoid with that many options available to you especially cause again you can react to their upspecial just watch ppg literally. If you're trying to challenge it you're doing something wrong. And imo if you still struggle against the girls in their current form you're getting out skilled man. they still have all their old weaknesses with a severely nerfed advantage state along with kill power and overall just potential in general at least in ones.

[tough kernel]

Ahh the good ol approach the same way until I lose you run out of recovery options

[wicked coral]

literally ^

[shrewd kiln]

what u are saying is to stall out near the blastzone against a character that can pretty much cover every option. it's almost like u don't see that PPG's up-special is further beneficial for them because they can fast-fall (even if they miss)

[wicked coral]

THEY CANT COVER EVERY OPTION, we only have 2 shots of upspecial and we dont zoom anymore, so you can react to everything we do ????

all you need to do is get past them with an airdodge lmao

[tough kernel]

So annoying when your juggling grenades as Morty the cam zoom I like to keep the grenades in the air 90 percent of the time

[shrewd kiln]

U HAVE A 360 DEGREE ATTACK. there is no way u sit there with a straight face and say that, that means nothing just because it cannot combo into anything. PPG is known for being a rushdown and they have stupidly big hitboxes. all PFG has to do is take away the early fast fall from it. why is that such a big deal for u lol

[tough kernel]

Fast fall nair is crazy on boomer

[shrewd kiln]

no, fast fall up-special. we want fast-fall up-special to have a delay

[wicked coral]

this was cute ngl

[tough kernel]

Please be the right one

[wicked coral]

did you not see that dodges got buffed? if you time your dodge even half right you avoid the entire thing, you can also go above it because you cant move vertically with nair anymore ???

[tough kernel]

Yessir me back before nerfs

[shrewd kiln]

just as bad as Agent Smith fr they need to be gutted

[wicked coral]

literally tho

if you unironically think ppg is as good as smith rn, its a skill issue bro sorry to say

[tough kernel]

Who ever thinks that go back to Arkham

[wicked coral]

literally

[shrewd kiln]

delete the Powerpuff Girls Discord right now of course not, I play Iron Giant. I don't notice anything beneficial for my character. all I know is that not all characters have good dodges

[wicked coral]

thats fair, but you shouldnt be getting combod, as i mentioned prior jab jab phone DOESNT WORK ON IRON GIANT

[tough kernel]

Bro I was still rocking the PPG . So inexperienced.😭 Look at my rowdy ruff boys s tho

[wicked coral]

i like the airwalker extension, never seen anyone use it besides my self to good use

[tough kernel]

Bro I'm a air walking cheesing machine 😭 cough cough raven

[shrewd kiln]

OF COURSE NOT JAB JAB PHONE, BUT IM SURE THAT JAB JAB DODGE CANCEL DOWN-SPECIAL DOWN-AIR DOES WORK. just 'cuz one variation doesn't work doesn't mean another won't. bro is stuck being bottom 1 forever 🤠

[wicked coral]

it doesnt if you di away, im only able to get downspecial into nair, which is like what, 20-30% at the most? Im not killing you till 150% or later most of the time, so you have nothing to worry abt esp when you can touch to death me

[shrewd kiln]

dodge-cancel grounded down-special always work. the video I showed was using DI-away. grounded down-special always hits upwards and aerial down-attack hits down

[tough kernel]

Saying some cheesed a game is just saying you let someone hit something on in the first place😭

[wicked coral]

i know, ground special always works, you can overshoot it though so they can still escape it, but Down air doesnt. if you hold away you go too far away for me to hit it and can dodge out

the only TRUE follow up is nair or like grounded upspecial or aerial downspecial or sometimes neutral special depending on the character / girl you are. Outside of that nothing is guaranteed.

[shrewd kiln]

mmm. idk. will just have to see tomorrow

[wicked coral]

we should play sometime, when you escape 90% of things i throw at you by just holding away and airdodge you will see what i mean. Il show you counterplay too idm

[dreamy patio]

Hello guys thank you for havin me on this discord im new to this game n would like any little help on playin with shaggy

[wicked coral]

what do you need help with? combos? neutral? disadvantage?

[dreamy patio]

Combos

[wicked coral]

jab jab dstrong to combo and then you can do dodge in jab upstrong or just raw upstrong, i believe you can also airdodge knee and or nair

shaggy can do so much off of combos and just deletes people, I wouldnt consider my self a great shaggy player but I can play him at a general level.

jabs ur best friend tho, cause you can combo it into upspecial, jab upspecial is soooo good. it just kills.

[dreamy patio]

Ok thkz

[chrome tartan]

Nice clip damn 💯

[wicked coral]

np

[finite perch]

Hey there making a true classification for Multiversus, is this accurate or a lot of things need to be changed?

This is moreso their gameplan and not in the way how they fight

[wicked coral]

Ive played a bunch of plat fighters and ive NEVER Heard of "read punish, mid ranger, or hit and run"

I think what you mean by midranger is the Swordy archetype. The archetypes ive heard of are rushdown, bait and punish, trapper, zoner and also all rounder. Hit & run i think could be renamed to bait and punished, i just woke up from a nap but I think thats what you meant. also you could just rename "read punish" to the "heavy" archetype. They just be fat and dont die although i dont think taz belongs there/

[winged copper]

Its not baiting and punishing if most of those players literally go for the hit and run away

[winged copper]

I think this list is pretty accurate but I would but Nubia on read punish. Once you get her to diamond, reading is the only way you win as Nubia. For majority of the characters it’s not even needed that much

[wicked coral]

I suppose this is true, but this just sounds wrong, Even then you could argue that its still bait and punish, Most of the time ive fought against those characters they use their better speed and movement to bait in attacks punish you, then they back up (to continue to bait and punish) or continue to pressure off stage or when you're pushed off ledge.

[wicked coral]

ive still never fought a good nubia feelssadman

[winged copper]

Good Nubia players killconfirms people at 70% 😼

[wicked coral]

i alrdy saw this. but nice

[wicked coral]

play me sometime, i want the noobia mu exp

[winged copper]

I need to get better vs the ppg match up too. Feels impossible but I think I can do it

[wicked coral]

il give you all the exp you need to dominate them, tbh i think the mu is hard for them at least when you get me above you but i could be wrong

[finite perch]

It's because usually those would be called grappler, footsies and mixup characters in fighting games usually.

Midranger would be how footsies and swordies operate with their gameplans. Despite the differences in designs, they have one thing in common where it's either controlling the space or neutral between them while throwing out poke attacks for an opening from a safe distance, thus the name footsies due to leg attacks are safe pokes in terms of FG history.

However most of the time it's been hard trying to explain to people what footsies and swordies are, in the end I stuck Midranger to the term because that's essentially what these two are good at and that is spacing away from the opponent but enough to hit them within range, Marth is the quintessential swordie while Chun-Li would be quintessential footsies. Basically good at poking and controlling mid-range

But swordie feels like a catch-all term for disjoint characters on the other hand, Mythra and Roy from Smash Bros would qualify as swordies but they're specialized in rushing down rather than controlling the space.

So there's a flaw using swordies since a lot of characters in smash and platform fighters use disjointed weapons but not usually benefit by controlling mid-range, for example Sephiroth is more of a zoner than someone who controls space due to his good projectiles and defensive nature with long-ranged normal attacks. He's a long swordie but lacks a safe way to poke easily as his forward tilt have endlag that make him vulnerable for whiffs and shields despite good forward tilts that can poke away from a distance, he can poke with dtilt slide but it's also considered unsafe too, thus he's a bad midranger but a good zoner.

Another smash example would be Hero, he's more Zoner-oriented as his disjoints are slow on startup and unsafe to poke mid-range as all his tilts are easily shielded despite down tilt and up tilt's range, thus he relies on projectiles and spells to keep the enemy away, a swordie but not a footsies or a good midranger.

Yet another smash swordie, Ike is a disjointed character that could have him poke the mid-range and control space but his attributes of slow but powerful attacks benefits him to read opponents and punish their mistakes by whiffing effectively, despite having disjoints and his down tilt good for poking he's not good at footsies/mid-range and would benefit better to be a bait and punish or something close to a Grappler's game plan of patient but powerful strikes.

[wicked coral]

its not, people who unironically think that dont know what theyre talking about, people will sit there with a straight face and say younglink is a swordy knowing damn well hes a zoner. Just because a character has a sword doesnt make them a swordy much like you can have two arcehtypes like Sephiroth for example is a swordy zoner, Joker can do everything and thus is an all rounder, etc

[wicked coral]

yeah but we dont have grapplers in mvs, noones gameplan revolves around grab thus theres no grapplers. What makes a sword character a sword character is using a disjoint or high ranged move to control space. which many characters in mvs do.

[wicked coral]

roy does not qualify as a swordy, his threat range is infinite smaller than that of a swordy and he plays more like a rushdown than anything, Mythra only counts because she actually has range to play with and the speed/framedata to play bait and punish, because of those two things she can qualify as a swordy.

ivysaur is a swordy in ultimate, IM being dead serious, they unironically outrange some sword characters with their disjoints. They dont have a sword but they much well qualify for the archetype.

[wicked coral]

Sephiroth is both a swordy/zoner, i feel like you havent seen much sephiroth gameplay at least at a top level, two mainstays of his kit and fair and bair, both of which he uses to control space much like a swordy does. he also uses ftilt all the time for the same purpose. Upair sometimes too.

[wicked coral]

you can be a bait and punish swordy, ike generally just pressures people with his range and tries to sweep them off stage since they can only backup so far. Same thing for corrin, corrin is slow just like ike is but has the high range and threat bubble of a swordy. Thus can still control space and use it to control neutral.

[iron verge]

Arya mid ranger black adam all rounder raven hit and run

[stuck pawn]

Can they give my girl Raven a dmg buff >.<

[finite perch]

I know Roy is rushdown, the power of his sword is within the hilt, he benefits being up and close for that reason.

I followed Ken's Sephiroth for a long time and maybe I'm just being wrong about Sephiroth, I guess in a way I'm looking at him in a way how Dhalsim, Min Min and Axl where they have long normals to the point they are considered zoners than footsies which is something I shouldn't try to overlap.

[thin gale]

anyone having problem with the game @everyone

any idea why this happening

[winged copper]

45% kill

[solar owl]

That's what I like to see

Bang bang

[vagrant pivot]

Bang bang indeed.

[solar owl]

Bro made that hoe behave

[vagrant pivot]

And I'll do it again.

[solar owl]

Why hoes keep tagging 🙏💀

[vagrant pivot]

Don't know. 🤷‍♂️

[wild gulch]

who has combos for finn

[brave harbor]

Can u still do phone into down air with ppg or an I just bad😭

[vagrant pivot]

Yeah, it's possible.

[solar owl]

So close to mastering the parry playstyle

[vagrant pivot]

Nice 👍

[amber wedge]

what is this guys

[solar owl]

I just bought the BP a week ago I beg yur pardon

[iron verge]

Only for people who didn't play in S3 and are coming back to the game

[solar owl]

Ahh I see thnx

[winged copper]

Downspecial - dair true?

[frosty harbor]

Would be nice if I could SEE either of the characters

[winged copper]

I wish the camera was faster instead of being smooth. There has been many times where I could not even see myself

[rich saffron]

So the people who stuck with the game cant get it free too
This how they reward there loyal players huh

[winged copper]

Lol multiversus is actually so sad

How they rewarding people that didn’t even play for a long time and are only coming back for raven

[iron verge]

We'll probably get something down the line, like how they rewarded beta players and players who played a lot in the beta

[winged copper]

What reward did they get?

Probably that one banner with the dragon right?

[iron verge]

1st battlepass free (basically all future ones free because you get enough gleam to buy the next), as much perk currency as ull ever need and a bunch of prestige both based off of how much gold u had earned in beta

[iron verge]

That's another one along with a badge, they both have different tiers depending on ur beta playtime i think

[winged copper]

Ohh so that’s why I never ran out of perk currency. I always get pissed when it’s a reward for an event because I have too much

[rich saffron]

Gotta exert your dominance and show em who better

[dusty wadi]

Perk currency is pretty meh, unless it gets really transformative. We should just be able to unlock perks by leveling up the character.

[vagrant pivot]

That's some devious behavior.

[solar owl]

The twerking is foul😭

[rich saffron]

I know 🤣

[iron verge]

Yh i hear ppl who are new to the game are struggling with it lmao

[ornate pumice]

so i was experimenting with raven and as it seems her stone can be deflected by her energy attacks, meaning you can make it a horizontal attack, also you can make it go forward as it falls, kinda nic

does anyone have a combo with her already?

[shadow fable]

Kill confirm I guess, IAD down-special seems wacked out because of the "HiT bOx OvErHaUl" and is inconsistent.

Still getting hit by Samurai Jack's jab from inside his model. 🙂 Must be getting hit by his third leg, because whenever I jab while people are inside my hitbox with Joker, they just lmaololololol and proceed to punch my boy's lights out.

[iron verge]

Going straight back to wall hugging really makes this clip😭

[shadow fable]

Yessirrr, I hate that stage.

[dusty wadi]

Hand

[tiny badger]

I would love this! As someone who didn’t play beta, perk currency has been difficult to farm for me

[rich totem]

Does Bugs have any IAD combos?

[dapper agate]

That camera is ridiculous lmao

[iron verge]

@simple briar

[simple briar]

That's pretty neat. I'd assume very situational though because it won't always be best to swap

[iron verge]

Ofc, im just saying there are routes that no one is even considering because people are laser focused on tods

[shrewd kiln]

I mean I had to test everything to find out what would be a ToD

[amber wedge]

its whatever i have infinite passes

[tough flower]

Not true after up special, but it's really good in stages with blast zones near ledge

[tough flower]

If you groundbounce with the airdash you can confirm nair, but this is a cool double swap variant

Hm although that second down special isn't true

[north patio]

[winged copper]

I know it actually so annoying

[toxic tree]

How did you manage this

[iron verge]

Not mine someone just showed it to me

[toxic tree]

Oh

[frosty harbor]

Average Samurai Jab match

[winged copper]

Ignore

[iron verge]

Sending to tony rn enjoy another nerf

[winged copper]

Nah it’s not broken you can’t always get uptilt after nair, maps are too small

[iron verge]

Too late tony said its getting removed next season and they're giving nubia more whiff

[winged copper]

[spare juniper]

My guess this only works on Mid to Heavies and maybe some lights depending on positioning and map. Like this ain't working on ruined Townsville unless you at the edge

[winged copper]

Yea I can’t hit it on light

[spare juniper]

Post it in the Nubia cord and when I get home I'll make a list of each character it can hit and can't hit.

We Nubia's bout to evolve

[winged copper]

😈

Oh this was my attempt clipped. I tried it again after the set at 0% and it still didn’t hit

[spare juniper]

Yea bro just too light.

[iron verge]

thank god

[night edge]

👍

[frosty harbor]

Gas Gas Gas

[worldly quartz]

Bro yall spit some more jason game

[slim bear]

if i EVER get hit w some shi like this im closing app

[cinder zealot]

that grab does NOT need shield

[dapper agate]

Trust me it does

[worldly quartz]

Jason is dog💩 compared to any other fighter

[dapper agate]

Whenever I ask for Jason buffs I’ve got ten people screaming into my ear that he’s fine and doesn’t need any changes

[cinder zealot]

that grab has more priority than any move if you whiff it you are safe cause the armor

most reasons jason’s get killed is cause they are over aggressive

[winged copper]

Imagine losing to a Marvin and he plays this

[shadow fable]

Can play any song at my wedding, I'll take some Martian Melodies any day.

[wicked coral]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO I JUST REALIZED IT WAS YOU @astral mango

im happy you played it out this time

ur ravens nasty

[winged copper]

Wildcard Raven is already washed?

[wicked coral]

they ran into my harley a few days ago and rage quit out 😔

[wicked coral]

i honestly think people who say finns mid or not at least high tier are crazy, his combo game rn has so much potential

[iron verge]

He's mid-low A tier

[eternal solar]

I wouldnt go as far as "so much potential" he's really only got 3 or 4 true combos, and only one can actually kill

[iron verge]

Finns kill power is tragic rn

[wicked coral]

thats true backpack is great but like you need coins

[eternal solar]

Indeed

[wicked coral]

maybe the wrong wording, but the combos he does have are great

[eternal solar]

I agree

[iron verge]

Not even backpack is good at killing😭

[wicked coral]

i meant dash attack lol, rip upspecial being good

[iron verge]

Yeah but it's kinda easy to predict a dash attack

[wicked coral]

i dont even main finn and havent played him seriously since like beta but seeing backpack wasnt a multihit anymore broke my heart

[iron verge]

Finn's killing at like 140+ it's painful af

[iron verge]

It's both a buff and a nerf, buff because they cant interupt u during it and nerf because you cant carry them with you

[wicked coral]

duh, i said it was good at killing, not at hitting people. Bmo is great for kills but he takes a bit to get.

jab bmo is fantastic

[iron verge]

Yh and also usual means ur gonna lose out on boots/buns(if the MU requires it)

[wicked coral]

yup, which means its time to play a slow patient neutch buddy. Time to bait and punish people

[iron verge]

A what now

[wicked coral]

neutch = neutral (pronounced noo tch)

[iron verge]

Never heard anyone call it that

[wicked coral]

thats crazy, thats a super common term among competitive peeps

[iron verge]

Maybe in other plat fighters or trad fighters, dont ever hear anyone say it in mvs comm

[wicked coral]

interesting, ive said it to people in this comm b4 and everyone so far has known what Im talking about, you're the first person not to.

[iron verge]

I assumed it meant neutral but i wasn't sure

It's been used in this server like 8 times excluding this convo😭

[wicked coral]

sad

[tough kernel]

🤣😂

[rotund hawk]

Is this 2v2 or 1v1 cause there different

[winged copper]

Here are some agent smith combos until multiversus decides to nerf this character in s7 🤑🤑🤑

[lament lagoon]

funfunfun

[astral mango]

i’d really appreciate if you didn’t broadcast everything i do please

[wicked coral]

stop one and doneing me >:((

[wicked coral]

but ok, il take my foot off the gas pedal.

[astral mango]

thanks

[shrewd kiln]

@winged copper if u hard spike someone into the side-wall off-stage, does it give the opponent their jumps back?

[winged copper]

No you don’t get jumps back

[shrewd kiln]

excellent. I wanted to see if it was worth it to continue to hit people with neutral-special

[winged copper]

On the Nubia grind 👀?, I think I will stop playing her until midseason

I should have enough rp to stay in gm, just that not a lot of people are masters yet so I’m not getting much from beating dia/plats

[shrewd kiln]

nah, neutral-special as Iron Giant. I kinda like to play him aggressively

[lament lagoon]

hilarious

[iron verge]

Gut arya stark

[proven thistle]

New Tom And Jerry Tech Spiral Balls

[iron verge]

😭WHAT

Worlds most useless tech but also funny find

Wait i aint even finish watching the vid that's kinda nutty

[proven thistle]

kinda like vergil swords from umvc3

[tardy galleon]

how 2 combo az steben unevorse

[random roost]

Bro ion think any character can do that with jab wtf

[iron verge]

A lot of characters can jab dair, arya can do it too

[slim bear]

thought it was just arya and smith

[lament lagoon]

jab dair is situational but works off a good up close jab

[formal glen]

yoo I literally found this combo by myself (well neutral air portal) yesterday so it's cool that someone else found it too

I made sure to be close to the ground so I could use neutral attack after portal

[slim bear]

i tried it but it only seems to work when i turn the other way idk why

doesn’t it bounce into jab too

yeah this hard

[worldly quartz]

Seems to vary occasionally but you can use any other of jasons quick attack moves also

[slim bear]

i never thought jason would have sauce 😭

[worldly quartz]

Nobody be playin jason fr

[iron verge]

She can do it wherever against the lighter chara in the cast

[random roost]

Smiths jab has a lot of hitstun compared to Arya

Jason can dair into jab 2 off ledge for a pretty kill

[solar owl]

I know it's you Gyro

[celest locust]

If Marvin is gonna not be buffed more, we deserve to do this lol. Even tho I can’t pull this off

[lime hound]

Damage from the stun perk is kinda crazy

[astral mango]

as someone who is learning arya, im stealing this combo

[brisk surge]

Hate banana guard

[random roost]

Best perk bro especially using air Walker with it 😭

[lime hound]

Oh shi good call bro didnt even think of air walker. Bout to hit the lab quick and then clip some fools in ranked 🫡

[wicked coral]

jab uptilt nair is so stupid man, I hate banana guard as much as the next guy, but hes not light, AND HE DIED AT 60 FOR GETTING JABBED BY SMITHS BUSTED ASS JAB THATS CRAZY MAN

I wish my characters could do that :c

you should play against my banana guard sometime, il give you mu exp @solar owl

[wicked coral]

i love getting out charactered by #19 in the world. Unironic character dif, I have to play SO PATIENT and pray that he gets impatient while also messing up to have any chance of winning, I thought smith was bad for ppg IN SEASON 3, its horrendous now, unironically potentialyl a -3

il upload a clip from those games in a few.

like bruh, how did that dair even clip me? I guess I naired? But my hurtbox wasnt even in the animation yet

[random roost]

Dam

[wicked coral]

dif smith, but like dude what do i do here, I HAVE NO OPTIONS

this character works so hard now its not even funny, 4+reads for 83% @astral mango @dusty hill @prime wadi @static iris @whoever else cares

also this just whiffs apparantly

[dusty hill]

PPG fair moment

Great gameplay btw, those reads were nice. But yeah, she's really not that fun in 1s anymore.

[wicked coral]

this is such a good visual oml. they suck now tho

[dusty hill]

Yeah, she has no frames in between those two, so it's just a complete dead zone for the hitbox 😭 honestly, not sure how that passed QA.

there are a few moves like that in the game but PPGs fair is probably the most egregious example.

[wicked coral]

100%. it has so much endlag and startup to just add insult to injury

[wicked coral]

thanks for telling me good job btw, noone be complimenting and just say "your characters broken" even if theyre not lol. Thanks dude.

[prime wadi]

💀

[wicked coral]

meanwhile some characters win neutral once or twice and get that much, bro where is our advantage lmfao

[prime wadi]

I couldn’t even tell you

[winged copper]

Am I the only one who thinks this move isn’t fair?

[wicked coral]

what, upspecial? if he just dodged he couldve avoided it lmfao. Its slow and quite easy to react to. not to mention on blossom in the air theres not much drift, so you could just let go of forward and wait for it and then go. Its good im not saying its not, but it being "unfair" isnt accurate at all. Besides if im in advantage, thats kinda the point, you lost neutral and now you should be getting punished because you're in disadvantage and now need to make it back to stage. btw that guy never mixed up ever, I just assumed he was gonna recover high, and I just covered it. I couldve done that with any character.

also I was fighting smith, you want to talk about moves that arent fair? smith has a whole drove lmao.

[wicked coral]

I dont think you're the only one, but it does seem to be a somewhat unpopular opinion considering the counterplay it has. Maybe you just need more ppg mu exp? idk.

like are we just gonna act like this is fair? how did his dair even hit me lmfao @winged copper

#combos message

post grab that was all true btw

this unironically hits ppg

like ?????????

[iron verge]

Ranked means nothing about a players skill usually

[wicked coral]

very true! But they were a smith player so they were able to skip the skill req quite a bit lol

[cinder zealot]

that’s literally insane bruh

[wicked coral]

yeppers

[solar owl]

S3 was his strongest state he got nerfed this season

Imma keep it a buck you really complain alot you talk like smith is the only one who can do stuff like that the Bias I see is crazy
Lmao

[wicked coral]

all he got was hitboxes changes and the dsmash changes, other characters got hit WAYYY harder.

[wicked coral]

bro I think the complaints are valid when I die in 1-2 interactions max. The mu being bad i can deal with but the mu is bad and my characters bad it just feels bad bro. Like unironically the mu is probs a -3

[solar owl]

Then they should revert them then bc nobody was complaining before
I hope they do change him anyway but even if they do it won't stop the complaining
It's an endless cycle

[finite bear]

Any Harley quinn combo tips? And perks?

[wicked coral]

people were complaining before, people were just more ignorant to how good he was then. And less people played him overall. Ive worked on balance before so I know its possible to balance him. Think they should cut the distance he gets on dodge cancel jab in half and also add more endlag to uptilt to make it easier for more characters to escape uptilt gun stuff. (but not take it away, I think it should have more stun the higher % you are) so if youre at 100% it combos normally, but if youre at zero you can get minimal things on it. I think uptilt is WAYYY to overcentralized in his kit atm. Also think giving him a 0 bullet option would be nice considering his ledge trapping is kinda busted with gun rn. As a lot of dif chars Ive played it feels impossible to get off ledge against a smith holding gun on the ground. or at least give it more whiff lag idk. Il bait out a shot, it has very little end lag and he just shoots again and frame traps me, wtf do i do to get off ledge. I have to pray lmao its so dumb

[wicked coral]

imo her best perks are glove control, snowball, collateral dmg, and puglist. some people like running confetti tho, in terms of combos shes a free form character and she can get a lot off of dair / fair / jab / dtilt

heres an example of what I mean, I read this guy into oblivion but this was all true.
@finite bear check this out

after the tech you dont have to follow up with fair one again either, you can do dodge cancel jab, Dash attack and dtilt. and you can convert alot off of all of those options.

like @iron knoll we eating good

[finite bear]

Whoa, what is that loop? Looks deadly

[wicked coral]

its just fair into fair

[finite bear]

again, looks deadly. with the neutral ground attack

[wicked coral]

i ended the combo with fair one into fsmash which is true. you could also end it with grounded upspecial, both are kill moves

[finite bear]

yeah, also im not used to the smash term

[wicked coral]

neutral atk i mean

[finite bear]

ah ok

[wicked coral]

mhm.

[winged copper]

Ground Down Attack
~ Knockback angle made more horizontal
– Knockback influence multiplier increased to 1.2 from 1.0

This is literally the only nerf he actually got 💀

The rest is just hitbox matches the animation. Nubia got more nerfs than agent smith💀

[astral mango]

nice 😭 i think i gotta start using that perk

[astral mango]

yeah that’s how i feel 💔

also i watched that dutch show, so sad it’s so short :,,( i loved the animation!!

[wicked coral]

it doesnt help much i just prefer it with my playstyle. Chem x is probs still better since you can jab jab dspecial scream while on blossom and swapping to bubbles. and then dair and nair and get like 44% i think

[shadow fable]

With Rainbow Dash, you could do the same down-special swap into short hop Rainbow Dash angled upwards into a dair for a tech situation and around the same %.

@wicked coral Not sure how useful this is, I don't really play this character.

[wicked coral]

havent even seen the clip yet but based ass music choice thats an SA2 bop. ( since slow mode is a thing il edit this with my reply) hrm, thats cute, I dont see it being that practical though with their current meta. In their current meta you want to do everything in your power to get your opponent either in the air in a juggle situation or offstage to setup a ledgetrap since thats where ppg is strongest. but with their techchases as they are right now. I dont see it being helpful, They're gonna tech and instantly escape any sense of pressure you were applying to them, air dash attack has a TON of endlag from a nerf it got a while ago, so we cant hit it and then read their roll with a jab or something we have to land and then dtilt and pray to god they were within its range and we timed it right.

[shadow fable]

Preesh, it is definitely a BOP. I got a bunch of game bops in my playlist.

[wicked coral]

sometimes though I will go for this same type of tech chase thing with dash attack from time to time off of dtilt dair or sometimes string together some moves with dtilt dash attack dair but its pretty inconsistent since dairs hitbox is kinda small. I usually just go for nair as the finisher for consistency sake.

[solar owl]

I predicted this would happen when they reverted the July 23rd patch and here we are

[wicked coral]

bro relax he didnt get gutted like ppg, they just nerfed his jab one (which was a very fair nerf)

[solar owl]

Even if they do the changes you suggested people are gonna find something else to complain about bc people can't adapt and want wins handed to them and thats with any other character that does a specific thing well. It's an endless cycle of reshuffling the board.

[solar owl]

I don't mind nerf I'll take anything to make people shut up
I'm talking about patch culture as a whole

It's so toxic and exhausting

[wicked coral]

oh i 100% agree about patch culture, some people dont want to accept that they are the problem and they just need to learn the mu lmfao, Or accept that sometimes a mu is just bad bro

[solar owl]

I remember the simpler times of gaming when we didn't rely on
patch notes forcing us to relearn the game every month and still have problems still not fixed anyway.
Instead if Something was a problem we just got better at the game.

Now it's just kids constantly screaming; never satisfied.
🙏😭

[wicked coral]

100% agree to an extent man, everybody has a voice, but as a dev you shouldnt listen to everyone, Ik exactly what thats like

ive balanced characters and developed a character of my own in rivals workshop so ik what its like 100%

[winged copper]

Agent still needs nerfs tho

[solar owl]

I know it's not gonna happen but They should just revert some things to The way it used to be bring back ppg TODs revert Finn to his I hit Ko set ups
Bring back Marty's sauce from the beta
Just more expression
Also how do I punish raven? It seems everything is safe on her

[wicked coral]

probably but hitting jab 1 is fine for now, lets play this out and test where hes out rn before we say anything

[winged copper]

Aslong as he can do sair - jab
Jab - uptilt nothings different

[solar owl]

As long as he still has combo expression I don't care what they do

Otherwise it's boring for me I don't wanna play pinata mash character

[wicked coral]

they can nerf him without removing that. I want to see his new jab, someone record it and post it or something

[winged copper]

If they remove sair - jab I don’t care about agent smith anymore.
And add more personal attack decay to his gun

[solar owl]

@winged copper @wicked coral I still want it to work in this advanced combo tho this took hours to find let alone perform I shouldn't be punished for it.

Have you ever seen a smith do stuff like this?

[winged copper]

Yes

[solar owl]

Exactly like that?

[lofty field]

i do that with smith lmao

[wicked coral]

no, they're to busy killing me in 1 interaction, that stuffs sick tho. the cross ups and gun 1 stuff gos crazy. \

[winged copper]

And that’s broken, that definitely should not stay

[solar owl]

Lol damn

[winged copper]

Not exactly but I have seen these kind of combos

[solar owl]

Forgot what this clip was posting it to see

Oh just a parry read

[wicked coral]

@solar owl Im all for combo expression and support advanced level combos, so i hope those stay, but tbh people just do simple stuff with smith and just delete people

[solar owl]

Doesn't work on everyone tho and it's inconsistent so it should be removed simply bc it's possible

[solar owl]

Yeah remove the simple stuff and let the true mains shine

I actually want his combos to be Damage and weight dependant like back in July

Made a whole video on that

[winged copper]

This combo does 50% and if there was more space I could have done uptilt after nair.

Now this combo doesn’t work on all characters and I think this should get removed too

[static iris]

is smith worse now?

[lofty field]

hopefully

[static iris]

HUH, JAB INTO UPTILT IS NOT TRUE

[winged copper]

Thank god

[solar owl]

No it shouldn't bro I don't want this game to be mash simulator cook more my guy make the casuals cry

[static iris]

yuup, smith is gutted

[winged copper]

Come on now 😭 a combo that isn’t diable and does 45%+ damage is broken. Same with your smith combo

[winged copper]

Wow no more loops, what shall we do?

[solar owl]

Nope, this is a fighting game it's not supposed to be fair like every other fighting game
If you do your homework and cook you get rewarded it shouldn't be for everyone

[winged copper]

Wait lol, you guys don’t have a kill confirm 💀💀

[static iris]

not complaining but jab into uptilt not working is way too much

[winged copper]

Yea I just realised the kill confirms are gone.

[wicked coral]

bro if smith cant jab uptilt that might just straight up ruin the character lmfao

[static iris]

not might, it ruins the char

[solar owl]

My phobia 😭

[winged copper]

Damn, what y’all even do after jab now?

[wicked coral]

thats a bad change 100%, I was thinking more a long the lines of making it combo slightly harder into aerial gun, Not this smh

[winged copper]

@solar owl nah keep the sair - jab, you might need it 💀

[solar owl]

It was like that in July I made a video on it then they reverted it

[wicked coral]

hopefully they do that again lmfao, he deserves to have jab uptilt, just not jab uptilt gun loops for free lmao

[solar owl]

💀

[shrewd kiln]

it's almost as if jab 2 > grounded down-attack isn't a thing. yeah, bozo Smith players actually have to play the game now and they still have off-stage gun crap

[winged copper]

@solar owl where the advanced combos at? 😹😹😹

[static iris]

the loop is also untrue cuz dc jab sucks now, so yeah even if u manage to hit jab - uptilt - nspec u cant follow with an another jab

[solar owl]

If they do that I'll find a way to break the character again 🙏💀

[wicked coral]

that works, but only on some characters that doesnt loop everyone lol, it is dumb hto

[winged copper]

Im sure jab - iad sair is gone too👀, im sorry but agent has no advanced combos potential

[solar owl]

You'll see👊😭

[winged copper]

How long do I have to wait? Season 6? 😹😹😹😹

[solar owl]

At least we can all agree I can't do this anymore

It's for the best😭

[wicked coral]

no duh bro got daired at 10 and died

[static iris]

i also cannot get to work dair into jab

[winged copper]

Before tech was my prime 😭

[static iris]

it really seems smith has to work with his nspec to get his things done

[solar owl]

Now that's a fighting game right there

[solar owl]

Yeah it's hard lab it out for a few hours that's what I did

[static iris]

mvs doesnt understand that to keep combos it needs a TRUE dmg scale, and not that every move hits the same way in a combo or string

[solar owl]

@winged copper @wicked coral This is the vid I was talking about back when his combos where character dependant
https://youtu.be/C1vvDsZL6F0?si=47Gy13z_kpA4B2co

[wicked coral]

this was actually nice, you had me like making noises and stuff lmfao

@solar owl looks like jab 1 uptilt still works its just not as good as it was previously. It works on shaggy forsure tested with dodge during hitstun

[static iris]

it doesnt, it s not counted on the counter probably the bot either doesn't DI or dodge accordly

[wicked coral]

it not being counted on the counter just means its not a frame perfect combo, no dodges are frame 1, so it will still be true on a lot of characters. Its only counted on the combo counter if theres 0 frames to escape. However some characters dont have a frame 1-4 option to escape, so if theres a combo where theres 4 frames of leeway in between the hits for example its still TRUE on them

[static iris]

shaggy still dodged in some cases to me and out of hitstun for me, but even if jab up tilt works nothing else does anymore

[wicked coral]

jab uptilt dair still works and all that jazz

@static iris play me rn test smith against me

[static iris]

coming, i was on fortnite

[wicked coral]

bet we can try out stuff on dif characters in a real match and see if its di dependant or what

alr im back my fault @static iris

[static iris]

inv again

[wicked coral]

ima play harley first cause shes a way more common character than ppg at least rn in current meta

[static iris]

oh that loop is worse than smith's, jab now is way harder to land and start off

[wicked coral]

lmaoooooo

[static iris]

yeah cant really punish with it anymore

[wicked coral]

that matters alot if it went from a great punish tool to "you cant punish with it anymore" I think punishing with it LESS is ideal, but also not taking the tool away yk

[static iris]

i mean i cant reach you 90% of the time idk about that

some combos i did defo dropped but u didnt dodge, i even did a laggy uptilt and u didnt move

[wicked coral]

im not stating an opinion, im saying it should be harder, not impossible to punish with jab. it was an absurdly good approach / punish tool before

[wicked coral]

I was mashing airdodge and holding away, promise.

[static iris]

i swear that dair gets dodged so many times got no idea then

[solar owl]

@wicked coral @winged copper I'm still happy now it takes more skill to land and I got plenty

[wicked coral]

it might be because of harleys weight? Lighter characters get combo'd harder for some god forsaken reason, They take more hitstun than heavy weights.

[wicked coral]

still sick man, no nerfs can stop you B)

[static iris]

that looks nice

[solar owl]

My Jab already loses to alot of things before which is why I just use gun anyway
Now I hope more people stop using smith bc of this like back in July

[wicked coral]

pretty soon you will be the only smith thats sick, incoming #1 smith in ranked lol

[static iris]

@wicked coral try to di other directions like down maybe

[wicked coral]

will do il try diing in and down and up

[winged copper]

Broooo they didn’t nerf him enough

[random roost]

😐 disappointed

[static iris]

alr so what i can see atleast with those chars that they didnt actually remove the cool stuff from smith, but he also requires skill now

[wicked coral]

which is good, IM glad thats the case, I didnt want them to make him lame or anything, just felt some options were a bit OD

[random roost]

"skill"

[static iris]

i mean now u have to guess where the enemy techs and not jab sweep like before

[wicked coral]

il play ppg after this then swap to a heavy like superman or wonderwoman and see how he combos them if he can combo them well he should be fine, il also swap to bugs or something

[solar owl]

Leave him alone 👊😭

[random roost]

Nah Demo is right, Smith is getting away with it season after season 🗿

[static iris]

@wicked coral if it wasnt for me playing old smith and maybe lag, this actually feels like a super fair match tbh

[wicked coral]

It feel laggy to you? connection feels incredible to me. But thats amazing news, like I didnt want them to gut him or anything lol, hes a sick character

[static iris]

u re hosting that s why, but my lag is not that hard/ really hard to notice it s just my skill issue

[wicked coral]

I see, didnt know there was host advantage in this game. Good to know, you can host next time idm. Thats amazing though that its hard to notice, ultimate wishes lmfao

[solar owl]

See yall got what you want leave him alone 🙏😭

[wicked coral]

thank christ it cant anti air anymore. LETSGO, YOU HAVE TO USE UPTILT NOW LIKE EVERY OTHER CHARACTER TO ANTI AIR

[static iris]

nah netcode of mvs is super goated, trust me the issue is just me educated on landing op jabs

[solar owl]

Exactly

[wicked coral]

100%, good to know.

[winged copper]

Barely anything changed. I will get hit by the same exact combos from last season 😐

[winged copper]

??? How did that miss

[static iris]

wooow @wicked coral smith feels a lot better now lol he feels fair

[random roost]

Need Neo to put him down for good

[wicked coral]

So, w changes? They didnt kill the character?

[solar owl]

It's ok I'll just have to adapt like a always do

[static iris]

actually W from our matches, people might discover something that we dont but my perspective rn he s good

[solar owl]

The cycle continues

[wicked coral]

100%. People will still complain as we have already seen, but NOW its just a skill issue or a mu check, not a character dif lmfao

[winged copper]

Lets be real, he’s still top 3. Even with the downtilt nerfs oog won many tournaments not even using that loop

[random roost]

^

[static iris]

@solar owl opinion?

[winged copper]

There is no opinion he barely got changed. Now the hitboxes are accurate so you won’t hit people from behind that’s it

[solar owl]

I'll be harder for sure but as long it's possible for me to express myself I'm happy

[wicked coral]

dude all his combos are a ton more frame tight now so hes harder

[solar owl]

Remember what I was talking to you about earlier it's unfolding right before our eyes

[wicked coral]

haters gonna hate, Smith is still good like he should be, hes still cool like he should be

[solar owl]

Now I hope they fix ppg I wanna see sauce

[wicked coral]

same man

[dusty hill]

Glad you liked it, and I agree, quite sad that it was never continued in any form

[shrewd kiln]

@wicked coral why they ban PPG from tournaments?

[light tendon]

?

[lethal harness]

anyone got bugs combos?
took like a break before the season and the game is literally so much different now

[shrewd kiln]

double jump + aerial dodge-up > press aerial neutral-special > aerial down-special (separate tunnel). play normally > catch enemy with side-air or aerial neutral-attack > up-air

[static talon]

Gorgeous

[snow cloak]

that map is so bad lolll

[static talon]

It works on all maps lol, it's just super easy on that one

[crude needle]

Lol, looks like he wanted the replay

[celest locust]

Elevator to hell

[cerulean gate]

Anyone who runs into Dark_Meat30 be warned I'm pretty sure he's hacking. I went from winning too suspiciously lagging, next thing yk I'm dead and this bum is emoting.

[static talon]

I've been calling it the hellevator lol

[celest locust]

insert “Highway to Hell” here

[static talon]

I'm trying to extend it even more 🗿

So far I have 130 damage in one combo

I need someone to edit this with the "Hey man I think you got em..." Batman audio 🤣

[eternal solar]

This is amazing

[wicked coral]

u tell me?

what tournament banned them and why?

[shrewd kiln]

idk someone told me. I'm asking u 'cuz u play them lol

[wicked coral]

well thats the first Im hearing of it. Let me do some research on the matter when I get to my computer and Il lyk what I find. Also, if you could just ask the person who told you that could help lol.

[shrewd kiln]

that's true but they're offline

[wicked coral]

oh rip

[fast locust]

see he is fine. smith is still awesome my mans.

[solar owl]

Hope to see some clips from you too my guy

[tiny forge]

You ain't posting it today 😂

[fast locust]

I'll try to pop some in fs

[grand willow]

Land it in a ranked game

[shadow fable]

Throwback to my first Agent Smith combo when I labbed him for 30 minutes during his early access.

[pseudo osprey]

God I remember how fast his jab used to be. AND his gun frames

[thorny plinth]

LOL

[thorny plinth]

His name is telling.

[shadow fable]

Right? Jab was basically frameless lmao.

You blinked then you were in a cutscene combo.

[pseudo osprey]

He was secretly the best and most broken busted character in the game and nobody knew it
Which is ACTUALLY hilarious to think about that the community used to respect Agent Smith, now he isnt lol, even with his Jab nerf

[shadow fable]

This a testament to people not labbing and utilizing the strengths of the character, but instead focusing on cheese for wins.

[pseudo osprey]

Ikr
Which is also why I REALLY want shields in this game to stay

[wicked coral]

was never able to find anything on this, if u find anything lmk, cause im really curious

[shadow fable]

Half the time, MvS really didn't feel like you were playing neutral at all. I might be a little too generous with half. It felt like people jumped in mashing and it worked, because there wasn't much you could really do.

[pseudo osprey]

RIGHT???
And it makes me disgusted that people actually really hate shields in MVS. Since yknow, MVS is a freaking Platform Fighter

I personally see it as people whining about not having cheese help them win a game now

[wicked coral]

imo those people are just outting them selves as skill less, Shields will add a whole new level to the game and add so much more depth to advantage, disadvantage and even neutral. The people who complain about there being shields are the ones who abuse broken advantage options or just run in 25/8 and dont like the idea of neutral. Some people have said that "its gonna make the game slow footsies" well heres a newsflash, IT ALREADY IS, people play neutral so slow and footsies based because its just all bait and punish. With shields you could implement mindgames into grounded approaches "is he gonna run shield? or is he gonna approach with an attack, gotta guess"

[pseudo osprey]

EXACTLY
This game is the most grounded Platform Fighter I have ever played and I really enjoy that, it kinda has some traditional fighting game traits to it sometimes. It really adds a whole layer of skill in it and it forces you to actually play smart and play chess with your opponent

and it actually feels rewarding to get a punish now instead of feeling like the game played you or the character is just that broken

[cerulean gate]

LMAO FAIR

[thorny plinth]

You should report him.

[cerulean gate]

I didd

[thorny plinth]

Good

[cerulean gate]

Why does this game reward people for doing the same things constantly 😭

[shadow fable]

I feel this comment.

Ngl, I want that ElUsIvE jOkEr skin now.

[cerulean gate]

Fr lol

[shadow fable]

I feel like not many people play Joker because they don't know how to adjust to DI when they want to combo and they rather do something that works 100% guaranteed.

[random roost]

Same

[wicked coral]

#clips message

new raven zero to death discovered

[solar owl]

Good times

[marble ermine]

This the sauce I been looking for!

[shadow fable]

Joker is fun, he's good if you know how to adapt to their DI and free-form combo.

[frosty harbor]

Just deletes the opponent entirely

[lucid carbon]

your my goat

thats actually sick, w labbing beyond just the standard 🔥

[wicked coral]

she might be top 1 after this discovery ngl

[static talon]

🫡🫡

[wicked coral]

unironically one of the best things (and only things) they have in this season so far

[willow saffron]

Anyone have TnJ combo clips? Having a hard time finding combos to learn

[static talon]

I think this is the longest combo in all of MVS, hit a 175 damage one earlier but it didn't kill so I didn't clip it. I think 200 could be possible >:)

[wicked coral]

this is gas, now do it in a real match lol

[static talon]

Step 1: get this horrible map
Step 2: pray my opponent has less than 2 braincells
Step 3: don't fold under pressure because this combo is shockingly hard to do 😭

I think it would be much easier just to do grab - nair - grab - nair - nair - nair - up b

[jovial fox]

Anyone got a jack combo?

[shrewd kiln]

jab 2 > cancel first hit of grounded up-attack > Airwalker > up-special.

on shield block, grounded up-attack (no cancel) > down-special to tech chase

[static iris]

jab12 - uptilt cancel - up air or grab, he doesnt have much combos

[iron verge]

U can also dspecial at a higher %

[livid moth]

Finn combo jab1 jab2 IAD down air

And clip

[mild acorn]

Tax combos?

[winged copper]

1 read = 70%

[median silo]

Jesus.

[shadow fable]

Finn is fun, I'll see what I can cook up since they changed my boy. I'll put you on game.

@livid moth Finn combo. I know a lot more, I'm just labbing Jake Paul rn.

[limber sun]

looks like finn has no combos to me

[iron verge]

Yeah you should do a side special there instead of an uptilt, side special combos into aerials at any % (if no di) same cannot be said for uptilt on mid-heavy weights

[shadow fable]

Agreed, and up-tilt is situational as you said. Side special into an aerial would be the better option.

[iron verge]

Also try ending with sair nair for higher dmg, if u want the highest u can do sair backpack but that's not always true and makes u lose coins

[shadow fable]

I find that Sair - Backpack is pretty consistent at higher %, and down-tilt has enough hitstun later on to go into utilt - sair1 - backpack. My brain pretty fried with all the different routes I'm finding w/ Joker and optimizing them on any DI vs players. Hope you enjoy your Turkey Day though, I definitely would like to combo theory with you on other chars. BG is my main and only character I have the most wins with, but that was during Mid Season 1 and Season when he was ass.

[wicked coral]

I wish my character could do that (ppg) I need 4+ reads for that. #combos message

[tender ice]

https://medal.tv/games/multiversus/clips/j9VYekoN8l4jm1Ngu?invite=cr-MSxaanYsNTc3NjcwODQs 1 read can get you 90

[wicked coral]

this was cute, but jab jab phone isnt consistent / straight up doesnt work on some characters, and im 99% sure neither is uptilt upspecial lol.

[tender ice]

Uptilt up special connects at mid percents and if you catch the dodge read jab jab phone will connect everytime

And even if you want you can just do jab jab swap up b for 70 percent if you know they’re gonna di away after the air walker

[wicked coral]

bro if they di away and also dodge away/up and away its not possible, maybe with a dodgecancel phone? But its not true regardless. cause theycould avoid phone entirely but just airdodging up lol.

[tender ice]

Yes if you start off with jab that’s true but if you read anything I just said after I caught his dodge there was no longer any di’ng out of that combo, I was inside his body so my jab 2 wouldn’t send far enough no matter the di for the phone to drop, the only way he can di out is after my jab up tilt after the airwalker but I knew he wouldn’t cause the stock prior I hit him with jab jab swap up special for di out

[wicked coral]

interesting, so this was more niche than anything. Sick clip regardless, You think ppg throwing without airwalker rn?

[tender ice]

Yea it’s something that’ll always connect if you catch the dodge in, and I think air walker is extremely good on ppg but not a necessity

I just like it since you get a guaranteed airwalker follow up if you hit bubbles side b and it can literally kill at 0 if you catch them near ledge 😭

[wicked coral]

wasnt aware it worked on dodge ins good to know, thanks for lmk btw.

[wicked coral]

yeah dashattack into dair is kinda dumb ngl lmao. Ive taken so many early stocks with that setup its insane. its not true but their options are so limited and its such bad positioning

[tender ice]

Only thing you need to keep in consideration is your positioning, if you know they’re gonna dodge in you have to make sure you’re literally inside them for it to be guaranteed like you saw in that clip

[wicked coral]

its really sad that this is a requirement lmfao for a 3 piece to work

[tender ice]

Ik man idk why jab jab dtilt isn’t a consistent confirm yet😭

[wicked coral]

also not entirely sure cause garnet is kinda heavy but pretty sure they coulda di'd out of phone side b. also up special dash attack isnt true im 99% sure.

[tender ice]

Trust test it out in training at certain percents it works especially on di in

[wicked coral]

cant test diagonal di's unfortunately.

[tender ice]

But it has to be towards the tip of your up b cause then dash attack can’t connect as shown in the clip

[wicked coral]

ofc its gonna work on di in thats the "i want to get combod and not die di"

[tender ice]

It’s a 50/50 cause if I know they’re gonna di away I do jab jab swap up b instead

[wicked coral]

oh you're talking abt upspecial da

[tender ice]

Even on di away at mid percents if it’s the tip of your up b dash attack will connect

Higher percents no

Also reverse phone side b is a guaranteed confirm at low percents if you actually manage to hit the phone

[solar owl]

Doing this in-game is harder than expected I only managed to do stuff like this 2 times in my whole carrer

[wicked coral]

yeah but reverse phone also seems less consistent to just work as a move,

[tender ice]

It is very inconsistent yea that’s why you only saw me go for it after the dodge read since it’s guaranteed

[toxic lake]

raven has a infinite loop combo. a player i'm pretty sure is a cpu would grab me in her grounded up special, throw me backwards, frame perfect grab me and throw me back wards from there and repeat until i had lost 60 hp or they decided o a different move. they did this in both matches

[iron verge]

Di up

[shrewd kiln]

i just found out u can do 4x grounded side-special as Bugs Bunny into grounded side-attack (jab 1) and it's the funniest ever but it only works if ur opponent doesn't mash out super fast

[toxic lake]

did that, nothing happeed

[pseudo osprey]

Gun go pew pew

[grand willow]

someone post batman combos please

[rich cypress]

AAAAYYYYYOOOOOOO THATS A BADASS COMBO

It takes a lot to beat those doctor Harley’s

[pseudo osprey]

Thanks!!! :D

[pseudo osprey]

Fighting her is painful
I lost that set lol, but still was fun clipping this

[near pond]

HEELL YEAAAAAAAHHH🐦‍⬛ (no encontré el 🦅)

[random roost]

Waus

[hushed willow]

@dull nebula

[static talon]

Oh cool, I made this same combo when this hotfix dropped lol. Nice to see others finding it too

[celest vine]

untapped potential of ppg swap combos
bot set to di out

[limber sun]

that shi looks sick, nice combo

[near pond]

the extra nair is for "style", i went directly for the BONK because I often drop in that hit xd

[wicked coral]

this is sick, but Idk if this is as consistent as we'd like it to be, from my experience this seems like something quite easy to escape with mixed dis and might not even be possible on heavier characters (i could be wrong abt the last part though)

[celest vine]

the scream is the most inconsistent part
ive been maining PPG for a couple weeks and scream would be a better move if it ground bounced more often

there are lots of bread n butter swap combos that ive been doing i think its better than dtilt

[wicked coral]

exactly, pretty sure you can di out of the ground bounce.

[wicked coral]

its definitely better phone sucks rn

but thats not exactly saying much when phone is as bad as it is rn, This is the type of spacing you need for jabjab phone to be true #clips message

@celest vine

[static talon]

I just do the extra nair because it makes the Dair more consistent for me lol

[near pond]

makes sense

[static talon]

Also allows things like this at low %

[wicked coral]

it sucks without chemical x tbh

[wicked coral]

im not even gonna lie i thought that raven was wildcard by how fast they rage quit lmfaooo

[wicked coral]

swap stuff is sick

[mild valley]

I unfortunately learned that the hard way here lol

[wicked coral]

HAHAA DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE IN THIS SERVER HAHAAAA

[wicked coral]

ggs! Btw i wasnt being toxic by spamming "?" emote, I was trying to clip it with steams new recording feature and its the same input on the dpad as my ? emote. Had to figure out that I wasnt tabbed in which is why it wasnt recording (which is why i usedthe emote so many times) Sorry if it came off as toxic lol

[mild valley]

Ah nah, it was fine.
I was just wondering like "Is he like confused that worked or something?" ngl

[wicked coral]

oh lmao, no thats not it at all, just was tryna clip it lol

[formal glen]

can any joker mains hook me up with some combos. Im starting to rlly like playing joker, but im gettign cooked in pvp.

[cerulean marlin]

Can anyone tell me a good Finn combo?

[wicked coral]

AIrwalker stuff is honestly gamechanging.

[astral mango]

YEUUH.. RRRUH.. YAAH. HUH!!

[winged copper]

I would jump off the map too in that scenario. But just to go next set

[static iris]

that s crazt roast

[winged copper]

Yea?

[slim bear]

wow

not too much on wildcard they are my goat

[wicked coral]

its real

[random roost]

Jab1, jab 2, dash forward, neutral special
Jab1, pogo, air down special, sair(up air or any other that connects)
Jab1, jab2, IAD(Instant Air Dash) acid flower

[wicked coral]

not true by any means but it was cute

[wicked coral]

the fact that he didnt need to boost jump for this or ANYTHING is insane to me

fair really hurts

[static iris]

and mortys cannot kill at 180... suuuure

[wicked coral]

I also feel like this happens way more than it should

[wicked coral]

bro they are capping, they have a BUSTED kill confirm, WHY DOES IT HAVE THAT MUCH HITSTUN? BROOOO, he didnt have to air dodge cancel his upair, HE JUST CASUALLY WALKED UP AND DID IT AND IT WAS 100% TRUE, INESCAPEABLE. LIKE BRO CMON. That move deletes people. The fact that he didnt even have to give up a resource for it (outside of his gun ig) is INSANE.

this was a cute read but I mean what else what i supposed to do? AIR DODGE OUT??? @static iris I unironically almost died here.

[static iris]

maybe dodge up or mash, out would be dangerous

[wicked coral]

I cant dodge up, he can just fair again and it clips me toes.

[static iris]

he was preparing the nade so he couldnt really

[wicked coral]

I also cant mash when my best option makes me bigger and more vulnerable. I can nair or upair (my only fast options in the air) Upair is tiny and nair makes me HUGE. This is usually what happens when I try to mash out of disadvantage, I get hit for even trying lmfao

[static iris]

yeah that s a big issue if u had blossom or buttercup u could use nspec air, idk if air down special woulf work

[wicked coral]

yeah but I didnt know that in the moment, it was a guess. and even then chances are i still wouldve been clipped by the nade, that move he did with nade and gun was WAY faster than my nair

our disadvantage is horifically bad this patch, unironically If I lose neutral Im either dying or eating 40-60%.

[static iris]

yeah, he expected though the dodge in so, the issue is the situation itself where if he catches your dodge you re dead

[wicked coral]

pretty sure i wouldve been clipped regardless cause nair makes me huge. disadvantage is usually a guess but it feels more like a 75% chance for them to pick the right option lol. instead of a 50/50. Its just a bad mu, but they have this problem regardless lol

[static iris]

yeah ur mashing options aint great down air special and nspec on blosson and buttercup are the only rhing i can think off

[wicked coral]

||I still lost this game||

[wicked coral]

they're too slow and if he hits me before It comes out I lose a special move in disadvantage with nothing to gain for it. even if we trade its a win for them since im further in disadvantage. (were mostlikely trading or its too slow since hes positive on me cause he just hit me)

[static iris]

then yea as i said the situation is just really bad for u there

[wicked coral]

which is insane cause he didnt hit me with a crazy setup or anything all he did was hit me sair / fair, it true combos into it self even on DI away and setsup for other stuff as you saw in the video. Its fine, but in this mu its SO EASY for him to land sair its unreal. And he gets so much off it... just really hurts

our disadvanatage is just horrible rn, @static iris Like bro I was mashing airdodge, holding away, up and away, i even tried mashing nair, NOTHING WORKED.

like I said, eating 60% or death. I got hit by sair once.

this confirm is REALLY good.

he can also apparantly just do gun into instant upair at like 150+

how it feels like playing ppg this season

[wicked coral]

this feels a LOT more consistent than jab jab swap upb. That combo seems to not work too well on di out, At later %'s this might be diable but this looks like it confirms it at most normal %'s and gets you extra damage if you wanted to do swap upb anyway. Feels a lot more consistent than the other combo.

[sharp terrace]

This is just a visual bug, resetting will fix it, and no you won't get rewards again

[wicked coral]

yeah i thought so

[sharp terrace]

Only happens on characters past lvl 15 I think

[wicked coral]

this is cool guess im done with ranked till next season.

[wicked coral]

wrong, this is what my character looks like after a reset.

[formal glen]

tysm

labbing joekr is fun ngl. I was able to learn jab1, jab2, down attack, acid flower, sair at 0. I think my favs are jab1, down attack, up attack/up air (which works at any %) and jab1, ground neutral special

[formal glen]

also by dash foward do you mean dash attack or dodge attack neutral special? just askin

[random roost]

Hold forward and tap the dodge input into the special or attack button

[formal glen]

ok, thx for the help

[random roost]

🫡

[formal glen]

🫡

[winged copper]

Yea joker needs a nerf

[random roost]

Pls no I just started using him

[dusty wadi]

Jokers weight should be nerfed.... (WW speed should be nerfed to justify her weight imo, but that's never happening)

[near pond]

the only i want to nerf from joker its the acid flower, its just an anoying panic button, its the only i want

[obsidian yoke]

@grim saddle

[grim saddle]

oh damn

[grim saddle]

yeah that's old rainbow before they change it to spike

[winged copper]

Beetlejuice 70% kill confirm

[grim saddle]

old rainbow was nuts

[obsidian yoke]

wish i had original nair ones, but those got deleted bc god knows ig

[winged copper]

That’s crazy 💀

[obsidian yoke]

nair eye beam also existed but idk if i hv it

[obsidian yoke]

dont hv but found these

[winged copper]

Mannn, this character was definitely top 1

[real silo]

E

[lucid carbon]

I mean it’s still hella up there, the fall from that version of PPG is very minimal.

[wicked coral]

I miss them so much you dont even know

[winged copper]

Banana guard 0-78

[wicked coral]

this is what happens when we just make everything ground bounce instead of just giving it more hitstun lol

[astral mango]

why are u showing old clips this is misleading

[obsidian yoke]

there is indeed, prior context

[astral mango]

oh mb

[wicked coral]

dude jab jab swap dash attack upb while on bubbles is kinda crazy

it just kills and seems consistent / true on characters ive tried it against.

[static iris]

i mean jason could also not make the most obvious techs in the entire game

[wicked coral]

i aint arguging that, IVE SAID MY PIECE>

[astral mango]

does anyone know any batman combos

[near pond]

Samurai Chad 🗿

Samurai can do that when the rival make DI inside, so its not a infinte loop as well

[static iris]

a nice option for wrong DIs

[open trellis]

thats eild you need to be put on a list

[nimble saddle]

<@&882349260409032746>

[marsh juniper]

Finn DI away combo

[cerulean marlin]

Hard to perform I never get it right any specific perks?

[marsh juniper]

you need to learn IAD

[cerulean marlin]

I did

When I do the side special they are always behind me don't know why

[marsh juniper]

send a clip of u trying it in lab

[cerulean marlin]

I'll try

[iron verge]

Nair sair isn't true on di out but the stuff u did before that and after that is true

[winged copper]

Nah nerf Finn

[winged copper]

If I was this close to the deadzone after that combo, I ain’t Di’ing away anymore.

[marsh juniper]

If the guy switched up his DI earlier he would’ve escaped

[rain parrot]

New tnj combo

[iron verge]

Can also just di in but at a slightly different angle and that also escapes, nair sair is like the most fragile combo in the game

[tough kernel]

Morty grenade combo

[obsidian yoke]

you should, but its still rlly dumb that he can supes carry essentially

[pseudo osprey]

Brutal….

[frosty harbor]

Smith went from broken dishonest jab to an overly honest jab 😭

[pseudo osprey]

Like how….how did they screw this up that badly

[pseudo osprey]

I hate this because he literally lost a stock because of a hitbox issue

[marsh juniper]

He barely missed, smiths jab hitbox is just more honest now.

[pseudo osprey]

ah
I guess, but sometimes it does feel annoying

[marsh juniper]

I feel u, just gonna have to adapt to the changes ig cuz he is still very much viable and before he was broken

[pseudo osprey]

No 100% he is viable
But man it sure is tiring when a jab barely misses

[versed forum]

Prolly not true but atleast i know that dodge cancel side b sends at a different angle now.

[obsidian yoke]

nerf finn

[versed forum]

So true

[winged copper]

Even if Nair - sair isn’t true the way you can drag your opponent across the map is just crazy

[random roost]

is it possible to combo into a 2nd grenade before the 2nd mudwall?

[solar owl]

Practicing set ups for my the next bracket

Landed the true version

[frosty harbor]

Audio is wonky

[harsh leaf]

Bro Finn is ruined

You can’t do this anymore 😭😭😭

[versed forum]

Overreacting like crazy, Finn is still amazing

He's just not a cheap 0 skilled character anymore

[snow cloak]

they really screwed up everyones jab

[winged copper]

Yes now he’s just a cheap character

[pseudo osprey]

I’m just done playing the game rn
I ain’t touching it for a couple of weeks
Back to Marvel Rivals, and DBD

[snow cloak]

ever since the jab range upd i havent touched the game its just ruined as of rn

[pseudo osprey]

I don’t mind Smith’s Jab nerf he needed that. But I’m not playing the game anymore especially tourneys because the game is not in a good state and it won’t be in a good state for a while it seems. I’m just tired of thinking I’m gonna have fun when I’m not

[snow cloak]

its not just smith i cant play gizmo or ba anymore because they thought to nerf all jabs because of them thinking it always hits behind the characters

[pseudo osprey]

True

[snow cloak]

ill maybe play when we get more characters and the game feels good to play again

[versed forum]

half the roster is cheap af though

[winged copper]

Half the rooster cant drag you offstage like Finn does

I should have said majority

[marsh juniper]

The combo I showed isn’t even true if you don’t hold out, he’s gonna have to rely on reads against a good player who switches up their DI

[winged copper]

All of that to still be a cheap character 😤

[marsh juniper]

a balanced character in the current state of mvs*

[winged copper]

Multiversus doesn’t have any balanced characters except from beetlejuice

[hollow jasper]

Anyone got raven combos

[obsidian yoke]

I got the ravencord if that helps

[hollow jasper]

Whats that

[obsidian yoke]

Discord of raven mains

[hollow jasper]

Im gucci

[obsidian yoke]

Oh well then, you can just ignore it then x3

[limpid karma]

🤣

[pure narwhal]

yea thank fully

[shadow fable]

Stopped playing for 2 weeks over here, happiest I've ever been.

[pseudo osprey]

Yeah
I played a little today and shields make the game a bit more tolerable now

[shadow fable]

I have yet to play/test out shields. I'll probably give it a try.

[pseudo osprey]

Ye

[shadow fable]

Did you want to test w/ Shields w/ me in a few?

[pseudo osprey]

I’m on my way to college so I cannot

[harsh leaf]

What you mean thank fully like that combo is not true

[harsh leaf]

I know that I don’t have the time to learn his actual combo

[wicked coral]

@solar owl we gotta play some games, POWERPUFF GIRLS GOT FIXED LETS GOOOOO

[solar owl]

Ighty

[solar owl]

Looks like smith got buffed for 2v2s and got nerfed again for 1s

[wicked coral]

i need to see his patch notes, hope they fixed jab 1

[solar owl]

They only buffed Jab 3 it only matters in 2v2s

[solar owl]

I'm ready for inv

[wicked coral]

il be ready in like 10

goptta finish reading these notes and go wrap a tree so it doesnt freeze and die

[solar owl]

Ight

[wicked coral]

il be ready in 10

[wicked coral]

@solar owl il make now if ur sown

[solar owl]

In ranked rn last round
Get the room ready

[wicked coral]

alr making

[solar owl]

I'm ready

@wicked coral the shields are throwing me off I gotta forget what I've learned and start over
Patch culture so annoying why can't people just adapt

Nvm down dodge does neutral dodge grounded lol

[wicked coral]

you gotta adapt bruh, shields is the meta

[solar owl]

I'm suffering from memory overload
Sick of things constantly changing

@wicked coral inv again

[winged copper]

Broken. True 0td of a jab as you can see in my settings I got dodge and different di on

[fossil dagger]

It’s satire

[slender gate]

yeah, remove shields

[lofty field]

Remove shields

[frosty harbor]

Remove shields

[dusty hill]

add shields

[sly tapir]

Remove shields

[dusty wadi]

Learn how to deal with people actually being able to defend themselves, and stop relying on cheese.

[split falcon]

Love this game, it's so much fun

Velma is so hard to combo! But still awesome 😎

[pearl current]

A pretty decent way to apply slow with Velma off Jab. Not true, then again not many things are on Velma and they still land for me lol.

Im sure theres a better way to do this. Im testing things out now that she has a Hitbox on her arm for grounded up special

[split falcon]

[astral mango]

lemme 1v1 you

[tough kernel]

Morty combo

[static talon]

Alr sure, lmk when

[astral mango]

i’m coming on rn send me ur ign

[static talon]

TtvSokudo, I just queued by accident so gimme a minute

[astral mango]

okk— TTV!???!!

[static talon]

Yeah lol

I don't stream anymore because my mic is broken and I gotta get a replacement, I just don't change the name 😭

Send invite when ready @astral mango

[astral mango]

alr 🥶

[static talon]

It's weird playing without shields now, it's already becoming muscle memory 😭

[astral mango]

parry me one more time bro 😭

[static talon]

🤣🤣🤣

[astral mango]

i didn’t realize i took it off and forgot it was the default. but i hate shields 😙 sorry

[static talon]

Jason hurtboxes 😭

[astral mango]

garnet time baby
WHIP IT OUT

[static talon]

I haven't played garnet in a minute, those clips from yesterday were a few weeks old

I can't fight kids apparently

[astral mango]

i’ll switch 😭

[static talon]

Nah you're good lol, I haven't fought any PPG since the nerfs so idk how they play now

[astral mango]

oh so who you’re the most confident in?

[static talon]

Rn it's a toss up, Jason just seems super fun rn but I still have lots of sauce with garnet when I get momentum

I gotta stop tryna shield

[astral mango]

i’ll turn them back on after this

[static talon]

Nah it's fine

Garnet moment

[static talon]

I won't tell anyone 🤫

I won't tell anyone about that either...

[astral mango]

Coñoooo 😭 good shiz 🤝

[static talon]

You too lol, just an fyi you can dodge jab - spark - jab - clap

The rock snipeeee 😭

[astral mango]

NO WAY???

[static talon]

Yeah, you can dodge after spark

[astral mango]

AM I EATING OR WHAT BRO

[static talon]

Your ravens nice frfr, the only one I've fought recently that actually fights

I can never react to that tether in time to shield it

[astral mango]

i gotta go papa my moms calling, GGS tho 🎀

[static talon]

Ggs, fun games 🫶

Wait you're masters 👀👀

[astral mango]

you’re not??

[astral mango]

💜💜💜

[obsidian crypt]

shields are so butt

[winged copper]

Did you sign fox petition?

[obsidian crypt]

no

as much as i despise shields in the game the hardcorefox petition is so bs out of this world its not going to change anything

[static talon]

No 😭

My peak was plat with batman last season, rn I'm gold 😭😭

[obsidian yoke]

finally, plat players are evolving

[static talon]

Nah def not evolving, just acoustic

[obsidian yoke]

idk what that means

[astral mango]

SUPER BUTT

[astral mango]

OOP!??? STOP YOU WERE DOING WELL 😭 IDJDJDJSS

[wicked coral]

what do you not like about them?

[dusk sky]

Yeah

[wicked coral]

what dont you like about them?

[dusk sky]

What's wrong with em?