This year, once again, NetApp INSIGHT will be digital and hosted on NetAppTV!
Register NOW ➡️ https://insight.netapp.com/
The fun this year extends right here in Discord! We have a slew of activities planned across all three days of INSIGHT.
#｜insight-2022
silk light
Check out the Events tab at the top of the channels list for all of the various Presentations and Q&A Panel Roundtables, and RSVP to the ones you want to attend.
Read more here: #╭・announcements message
blissful comet
Maybe someone can help me... I've marked as "favorite" several sessions on the Insight session catalog at https://insight.netapp.com/sessions/?showMyInterest=true#/. However, I don't know how to actually get to those sessions on NetApp TV, when the time comes for them. I can't tell which are live and which are on-demand either.
Can someone explain the link between insight.netapp.com session listings and NetAppTV, or how to find the content I have "favorited" tomorrow?
opal yarrow
Maybe someone can help me... I've marked as "favorite" several sessions on the I...
Hey Justin! If I'm not mistaken, the favorites are there as a bit of an agenda/schedule builder for you personally. There's no direct link between the two that I'm aware of, but I'm checking on that for you and will report back.
opal yarrow
Maybe someone can help me... I've marked as "favorite" several sessions on the I...
Good news! I'm told that at the start of the show tomorrow at 8AM Pacific, there will be a "My Sessions" tab that will appear on insight.netapp.com with links to the videos of the sessions you've favorited. Hope this helps!
blissful comet
excellent, thanks for looking into it!
opal yarrow
excellent, thanks for looking into it!
No problem! Also, just so you're aware, those are all on-demand (pre-recorded) and will be available long after the event this week on NTV. Some of them are being re-presented here in Discord live with the presenters (We couldn't get to all of them). Check the Events tab at the top of the channel to see if there's any you're interested in!
stiff tinsel
Hey, Chris
silk light
Hey Chris!
covert juniper
Hi Drew
raven lake
Insight 2022, based on sessions is W O R T H L E S S. It seems more and more NetApp is thinking C L O U D and forgetting their on-prem customers. Perhaps we need to start forgetting NetApp as well.
opal yarrow
Have you seen the events we’re doing here? ONTAP and hardware updates, ADP and Networking Deep Dives, roundtable with ONTAP prod mgmt. marketing is definitely focusing heavily on cloud but look past that and there’s plenty of hardware and on-prem stuff.
raven lake
Where is all this stuff and how do I find it?
raven lake
Have you seen the events we’re doing here? ONTAP and hardware updates, ADP and ...
Sorry, where do I find all of these things? I was so looking forward to Insight...
rose grove
Once we get the home page the events will be a lot easier to spot
minor bronzeBOT
half dragon
Most of the stuff is up already, no? Looking for those deep dives...
Plz share links so I can add them to my list to share with customers
silk light
Deep Dives will happen LIVE here in Discord. Check out the Events schedule mentioned above // top left corner
keen crest
Super excited for Insight today!
prisma folio
👍
keen crest
Insight 2022, based on sessions is W O R T H L E S S. It seems more and more Ne...
I hear you. And please watch the Insight keynote and featured sessions. NetApp continues to focus on hybrid multi-cloud - and hybrid means on-prem! Lots of innovation in ONTAP to be unveiled all powering AFF & FAS (plus the cloud).
fringe jolt
What time does it start?
silk light
Sorry about the hiccup there -- switching to the real stream 🙂
keen crest
So is the "Watch Party" just for streaming the event? No audio chat there?
silk light
correct
opal yarrow
PSA: If you want to participate in the giveaways, the bot needs to know! Be sure to click the blue PARTICIPATE button under the post!
tame fulcrum
Pro-tip: you can pop the stream window out separately so you can see this chat and also see a full size stream window at whatever size you'd like 🤙
solid mountain
Looking good folks! The volume can be boosted a bit if you can
silk light
Let me check that
fringe jolt
You can right click the stream and adjust the volume.
errant bridge
on the watch party window, you can increase the volume, which is apparently independent from your system's volume
rose grove
Yeah Discord allows you to adjust it in the stream window
silk light
Volume ++ sorry y'all
open skiff
Volume is much better! Thanks 🙂
tame fulcrum
That dancing geek walking down the school hallway is my spirit animal
errant bridge
I'll take an onprem porter
half dragon
Does https://cloud.netapp.com/pricing work for anyone?
tame fulcrum
Works fine on my end
half dragon
Can't change the products though?
tame fulcrum
Mmm dark mode ❤️
fringe jolt
Oh you're right I can't either.
opal yarrow
Yayyyyyy!
keen crest
The BlueXP/cloud switchover is happening in real time at 8am PT, so you might want to give it a few minutes.
It's Keynote time!
rose grove
You can see them if you scroll the page, I guess they are just missing the anchors
half dragon
Including a better ransomware attack
solid mountain
defence 🙂
lyric estuary
I’m in person w partners in Philadelphia and everyone is very excited to hear what’s new with NetApp!! Let’s do this 🥳
fringe jolt
Does the stream keep timing out for anyone?
errant bridge
no
solid mountain
Works great for me (I'm in Tel Aviv)
fringe jolt
Must be the VPN.
rose grove
Good here too
mint nest
my stream keeps stuttering but isn't timing out
fringe jolt
I just disconnected so I'm on my home internet so hopefully that helps.
silk light
No shame in watching from https://www.netapp.tv/insight 🙃
But stay here and chat!
half dragon
Stream works, but corp laptop is a balmy 155 deg F
static bane
I needed to run admin on demand just to open discord lol
faint adder
Drinking game idea; take a shot when Kurian says "cloud".
tame fulcrum
We'd all be dead lmfao
fringe jolt
Mine barely is working hard. 🙂
elder hound
We'd all be dead lmfao
I mean if you want to pass out within the next 45 minutes...
solid mountain
This is a drinking game for advanced drinkers
elder hound
Truly pickled is how I define it
tame fulcrum
...evolved drinkers, if you will
feral sage
Do it with water, stay hydrated!
static bane
professional drinkers
elder hound
Do it with water, stay hydrated!
So you can watch Insight while stuck in the bathroom? haha
half dragon
feral sage
So you can watch Insight while stuck in the bathroom? haha
Wireless headphones 😎
solid mountain
Let's see if I timed my YouTube video to the exsact time he will say it 🙂
lyric estuary
Seeing real life impact of our solutions gives me the warm fuzzies 🤗😊🥰
As would taking a shot every time GK says cloud 😉
paper vine
Love GK's hand gestures!
tame fulcrum
He's killin it!
opal yarrow
#KarateChops
prisma folio
That used to be the drinking game during all hands!
elder hound
If only we could clip every time he has chopped and make a compilation video on it.... hint hint @opal yarrow
elder hound
That used to be the drinking game during all hands!
used to be?
opal yarrow
Reporting in from the NYC Office watch party! Packed house! Thanks @cyan scroll!
lyric estuary
Reporting in from the NYC Office watch party! Packed house! Thanks <@100513790...
Be there tomorrow to keep the conversations going!
next orchid
Anyone know if we're running any certificate discounts during NetApp Insight?
opal yarrow
<ping @barren shale>
tame fulcrum
Certification special offer for INSIGHT 2022 attendees
50% discount for use on these ten exams only
Apply the promo code at checkout when scheduling your exam
One attempt only
Offer open for 60 days: November 1, 2022, thru January 1, 2023
You must schedule and take your exam before January 1, 2023
ancient stone
Yes. I love Formula E!
open skiff
PORSCHE FTW! That was an awesome project to work on!
next orchid
Certification special offer for INSIGHT 2022 attendees
50% discount for use on ...
Thanks!
solid mountain
They have an amazing Cloud Volumes ONTAP Edge + Cloud Backup use case
feral sage
"First, a word from our of our sponsors..."
I was almost expecting "Squarespace"
versed pawn
I am a presenter. How do I answer questions in my session?
opal yarrow
RidgeWallet
elder hound
I do love my RidgeWallet
tame fulcrum
the performances tho
half dragon
Now this is the technical content customers want
lyric estuary
I don’t know what’s happening on the screen right now 👀
feral sage
Keep your datacenter bulge down!
silk light
👻
deft stream
what was that
prisma folio
ivory glen
At least it wasn't a freestyle rap 😉
elder hound
opal yarrow
At least it wasn't a freestyle rap 😉
tame fulcrum
At least it wasn't a freestyle rap 😉
Thank goodness THAT hasn't come back from the 90s...yet
next orchid
Felt like I was watching bo burnham internet song
tame fulcrum
Felt like I was watching bo burnham internet song
#INSIGHT2023goals
lavish minnow
Watching now!! 
opal yarrow
#GOHARVGO
next orchid
Going to have to ask Harv where he gets those awesome shirts
prisma folio
Harv is awesome!
opal yarrow
For those that don't know, Harv is the one that led Office and Exchange teams to O365 at Microsoft.
lavish minnow
Watching insight while troubleshooting a container with a NetApp/trident volume.
opal yarrow
You could say he knows a thing or two about transitioning an on-prem app to a PaaS/SaaS offering.
opal yarrow
Watching insight while troubleshooting a container with a NetApp/trident volume.
Welcome, and thanks for joining us!
deft stream
im loving the bokeh and cam angles
elder hound
https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-alcohol-lets-drink-tequila-gif-17171578
Bottled by BlueXP?
half dragon
I wonder if anyone from IBM is watching this lol
green portal
Or JetBlue
elder hound
I feel like it should have been BluEXP?
green portal
new drinking game - drink every time you hear BlueXP
elder hound
new drinking game - drink every time you hear BlueXP
Hope you have your living will created!
half dragon
Death sounds pleasurable right now
Every customer who is using CM right now must be confused
scarlet harness
new drinking game - drink every time you hear BlueXP
2 minutes in and I’m hammered
tame fulcrum
ride or die 4 LYFE
lyric estuary
The partner sitting next to me said they anticipate us changing names again in a year, or two, or five. Being in sales my whole life basically, I’ll answer to any name so trying not to focus there.
I’ve been called everything from Say-Seal to Cecil like the Lion 😆😆
ivory glen
RIP Legend
blissful comet
I'm not seeing the appeal for BlueXP for on-prem only customers.
elder hound
fact
deft stream
lol @tame fulcrum
opal yarrow
I’ve been called everything from Say-Seal to Cecil like the Lion 😆😆
Fixed.
blissful comet
But it could be a case of "not a product for me" then.
open skiff
idk @blissful comet - it *looks *like it consolidates a lot of the stuff people used to have to rely on AIQ for, except its less 'viewing' and more 'doing' based on my expert review of this page 😛 https://cloud.netapp.com/netapp-on-premises
solid mountain
I'm not seeing the appeal for BlueXP for on-prem only customers.
You can manage 100% on-premises env on BlueXP, for example it has the same Backup capabilities just with StorageGRID as target
kind chasm
So confused. They are taking Insights/ActiveIQ and what else? and combining them into BlueXP ?
half dragon
Pretty much
solid mountain
Everything will be under BlueXP
blissful comet
will on-prem ActiveIQ still be around?
solid mountain
Think about synergies between capabilities
open skiff
I'd rather have a button to click than 5 URLs to bookmark
lyric estuary
I'd rather have a button to click than 5 URLs to bookmark
🙌🏼
prisma folio
#SPOG!!!
elder hound
I'd rather have a button to click than 5 URLs to bookmark
100%. This has been an ask I've had since I was a customer. One place to see everything NetApp. A true Unified Manager.
kind chasm
Where did the name come from? I would prefer TheBigBlueN
green portal
XP as a gamer has a different meaning then what is being implied here
kind chasm
lol
solid mountain
It's more than a single page to switch between applications, think about the possible automation when everything works together
half dragon
"possible automation when"
kind chasm
Ok so that was sort of a Dora / Nemo ref. TheBigBlue
solid mountain
Remember it's the first step, we have a lot of thoughts for the future 🙂
lean coyote
Blue XP it´s Cloud Manager or it´s my impression ?
scarlet harness
XP as a gamer has a different meaning then what is being implied here
It’s 30 years of XP for the storage game
half dragon
Right now is just a name change really
tame fulcrum
I bluexp myself!
kind chasm
It is nice its starting to come together a bit more, have to think about end user experience with X amount of different tools
solid mountain
It's not Cloud Manager, it's based on some of the components
lyric estuary
CM+AIQ+System Manager=BlueXP
agile anvil
But it could be a case of "not a product for me" then.
I think the Ransomware dashboard is quite a good example of how we can combine lots of stuff from different BlueXP features into a single dashboard.
lyric estuary
I think the Ransomware dashboard is quite a good example of how we can combine l...
My favorite dashboard, hands down!
prisma folio
I think the Ransomware dashboard is quite a good example of how we can combine l...
And how it brings in Cloud Secure and On-box anti-ransomware visability
kind chasm
other products.. not to be named..... have the equiv. of unified manager in the cloud for you to use/manage everything.
keen crest
Simultaneous NAS/S3 access in ONTAP. Woohoo...
solid mountain
ONTAP+CI+Cloud Backup service+FPOLICY
green portal
Now if we can get S3 SnapMirror into SVMDR
half dragon
Can't go NAS into S3 though
solid mountain
Cloud Sync can
half dragon
That doesn't count
keen crest
Not yet Judson...
And that is not a roadmap statement but ya know, use your imagination.
keen crest
other products.. not to be named..... have the equiv. of unified manager in ...
That's the goal for BlueXP. What we're delivering today - unified management of all our cloud and on-prem storage products in a single place.
kind chasm
That's the goal for BlueXP. What we're delivering today - unified management of ...
Awesome, glad to hear.
silk light
While you're all here ^ be sure to fill out the form and register for the giveaway (staff excluded -- sorry)
keen crest
Drew, if I temporarily resign and then re-join tomorrow morning, can I win? (Dear HR: This is a joke).
rose grove
I'll give you $50 just to see you do it Jeff
elder hound
I'll throw in $50 on that 😉
fringe jolt
It won't let me push the participate button.
Am I missing someting, or did I push it?
opal yarrow
Paul, we discussed this earlier
silk light
More coffee for Paul
fringe jolt
I missed it then. Sorry y'all.
elder hound
More coffee with less whiskey 😉
keen crest
I'll give you $50 just to see you do it Jeff
Let's see... calculating my daily salary vs. $50.... wait, math is hard.
fringe jolt
Oh I see it now.
opal yarrow
#FinePrint
fringe jolt
Sorry all.
deft stream
Let's see... calculating my daily salary vs. $50.... wait, math is hard.
dont forget to carry the one....that gets me every time lol
green portal
it's was worth a shot Paul
fringe jolt
Dang reading comprehension. lol
rose grove
Let's see... calculating my daily salary vs. $50.... wait, math is hard.
With the way the taxes keep changing in the UK I've given up working out what I earn
fringe jolt
Amazing what coffee does! Now I get it!
jolly wharf
Wait, you all get paid for this?
elder hound
Wait, you all get paid for this?
keen crest
Wait, you all get paid for this?
I get paid in BlueXP Dollars.
half dragon
What's the ratio to USD?
green portal
0
opal yarrow
If you only knew how many times we had to do that "walking down the stairs" shot
elder hound
Hopefully you closed your circles on the apple fitness 😉
wheat parrot
is it just me or does the volume button do nothing?
wheat parrot
odd, mine is at the top...
tame fulcrum
On a mac?
silk light
Pop out vs full screen might make a difference there
half dragon
wheat parrot
no, chrome on windows.... https://www.netapp.tv/player-live/29600?mcid=38473689620406243710751586613488941916
wispy marsh
another Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey
elder hound
https://tenor.com/view/florida-votes-how-we-choose-florida-florida-votes-floridi...
beat me to it hahaha
minus the political piece....
tame fulcrum
yeah they snuck that in the gif haha
keen crest
If you only knew how many times we had to do that "walking down the stairs" shot
I'm just impressed no one ended up on crutches. Or hit by an errant drone.
half dragon
First hit via discord lol
opal yarrow
That said, Jenni's shoe game is HOT FIRE.
wheat parrot
ahhhh link from the "guide" gives me that broken volume button, this url works
https://www.netapp.tv/live-event/29599/player/live?assetType=events&playlist_id=148&mcid=38473689620406243710751586613488941916
agile yoke
Would've been hilarious if she introduced herself, turned to another camera, and continued speaking
elder hound
That was last years Insight if you recall
keen crest
Would've been hilarious if she introduced herself, turned to another camera, and...
I think we had a version like that...
opal yarrow
Buenos dias, Cesar!
wheat parrot
Everytime i see Cesar all i can i think of is Clear and Present Danger
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0021835/mediaviewer/rm2628894721?context=default&ref_=nm_phs_md_1
paper vine
Everytime i see Cesar all i can i think of is Clear and Present Danger
https://...
Me too!
keen crest
Featured sessions coming up soon, deeper dive into a lot of features and some cool conversations with some cloud partners coming up!
paper vine
He was a bad ass in that movie
half dragon
Best Jack Ryan movie I think
Hunt for Red October is great, but I could never by Alec as Ryan
opal yarrow
I’ll take Gary Oldman in Air Force One any day. Actually Gary Oldman in The Professional. In fact, let’s just go Gary Oldman in any villain role.
opal yarrow
EXACTLY.
rose grove
I’ll take Gary Oldman in Air Force One any day. Actually Gary Oldman in The Pro...
Is that the international release name for Leon?
deft stream
air force one was epic same as clear and present danger
elder hound
https://tenor.com/view/superbad-whats-up-hello-there-gif-18511904
NO YOU DIDN'T!
opal yarrow
Is that the international release name for Leon?
Still Natalie Portman's best performance, to this day.
jolly wharf
TIL that was Natalie Portman...
elder hound
Natalie Portman's rap on SNL wins IMO
opal yarrow
deft stream
lol member berries
half dragon
That seemed like a pretty big non-answer to "what's coming with FSxN"
agile anvil
Hey look Ma, I'm on TV
silk light
ITS THAT GUY FROM TV
half dragon
What's the button?
green portal
Hey look Ma, I'm on TV
Look Ma, I'm streaming on the interwebs.
tame fulcrum
GOOOO Matt!
half dragon
And how did it feel interviewing someone from the Phantom Zone?
deft stream
Ma i know that guy on TV....ya sure steven
grizzled musk
opal yarrow
Matt is a BALLER for stepping up and covering these sessions. Some fun inside baseball... he was NOT feeling well, but he's such a PRO you could never tell.
half dragon
Presents better sick than I do normally
tame fulcrum
Matt was SICK during this?! Superb work @agile anvil 🤙
rose grove
It's the accent, we can pull off a lot with that alone
keen crest
Someday I want to grow up to be Matt Watts.
rose grove
Matt is one of the reasons I wanted to join the company, it took me far too long to get in the door, but eventually made it
keen crest
When he was EMEA Field CTO and I was Americas Field CTO, it was such an unfair comparison for me. I mean, he's smarter, better accent. Just unfair.
agile anvil
Matt is one of the reasons I wanted to join the company, it took me far too long...
Aw shucks I'm blushing Jason
keen crest
Matt is one of the reasons I wanted to join the company, it took me far too long...
And me being at the company drove out enough people to give you that chance Jason! 🤣
hazy compass
Hold on Matt, how are you chatting AND presenting at the same time!?!?! 😉
silk light
#beastmode
static bane
the magic of television
alpine estuary
That's just the level of talent Matt brings!
hazy compass
Is this not live?
wispy marsh
AI
hazy compass
Spoiler alert, Matt has like half a dozen clones in the basement.
tame fulcrum
Typing between hand gestures
languid kayak
Memorex
static bane
the recording is playing live, for sure.
agile anvil
Let me get a drink and I'll be back with Google
deft stream
damn that was quick Matt lol
tame fulcrum
self alley-oop!
half dragon
San Jose office makes a great backdrop for this
hazy compass
The background footage used when they are both in frame make them look child-sized.
But it does look like a nice office, maybe I'll get to see it in 2023.
rose grove
I need to come up and see you as well Maki
half dragon
I barely get to see RTP, let along anything west of the Mississippi
rose grove
Next time I'm on the west coast I'll come up
hazy compass
I need to come up and see you as well Maki
Do you live in CA now?
Or do you mean as a part of a side trip when you're already down there?
keen crest
If I earned like 5x more I'd live on Santana Row
When I moved back to this area I actually looked at a Santana Row place, but yeah... ugh price tag.
rose grove
As part of a side trip, I'll be over more often now
keen crest
If you guys hang out another 15 minutes or so, you'll get to see me typing here while magically on screen as well.
elfin garden
Jason just needs to find an excuse to visit Amazon/Microsoft in Seattle... Vancouver (relatively) not a long trip from there.
hazy compass
As part of a side trip, I'll be over more often now
Wait until the rainy season is over, unless you want to go snowboarding, but we'd love to have you.
static bane
its a really nice office, but it was pretty deserted. a lot of the furniture was still in the shrink wrap, the fooseball tables were still new in box. the caffeteria wasn't operating yet.
keen crest
I'm getting my hair and makeup done right now for my big appearance.
half dragon
Say "hot dog" if you're really live
cold geyser
cold dog
keen crest
its a really nice office, but it was pretty deserted. a lot of the furniture was...
Yeah, we're not forcing employees to come in, etc. Working where it makes sense. The cafeteria and barista bar are open now though, and the 6th floor terrace is an amazing place to work outside..
half dragon
You'll get a $10 for everytime you can fit in Dog
keen crest
Say "hot dog" if you're really live
Hold on, I'm contacting our producers to see if we can do a live insert of "hot dog" in the clearly not pre-recorded video stream.
static bane
awesome. I'm still going to miss the sushi guy when I'm up there though 🙂
half dragon
Surely they can overlay some clipart
cold geyser
a-la chinese overdub?
hazy compass
I'll be in NorCal Dec 20-25, maybe I'll come buy with my $100 NetApp Gear Gift card
keen crest
I'll be in NorCal Dec 20-25, maybe I'll come buy with my $100 NetApp Gear Gift c...
Excellent, I'll tell security to set the gate charge that day to $100.
half dragon
Speaking of which, no new merch for Insight?
hazy compass
Excellent, I'll tell security to set the gate charge that day to $100.
As long as I get to spend it, I think I got it at the last IRL Insight.
Is there a Gear Store in the new office?
keen crest
Is there a Gear Store in the new office?
No.
hazy compass
curses
wispy marsh
Speaking of which, no new merch for Insight?
half dragon
That's been there for awhile tho
hazy compass
Shipping to Canada always ends up being problematic with FedEx's usurious importation fees
elfin garden
I thought the whole Patagonia vest thing was now out of fad in the valley.
hazy compass
But I'll have a look now and ship it to my sister's house for when I'm there.
hazy compass
I thought the whole Patagonia vest thing was now out of fad in the valley.
It is, that's why NetApp is now carrying them. 😉
elfin garden
I feel like sustainability comes up every day now. I'm waiting for laptop power supplies, mobile phone chargers, etc. coming with either physical displays or some sort of bluetooth interface to provide real-time metering on energy consumption.
half dragon
I want solar a solar roof without having to pay for it
agile anvil
and breath
elfin garden
How soon before our cars have carbon meters next to the odometer.
prime robin
If only to get to the bathroom faster... eh Judson?
prime robin
Whoops! wrong channel
opal yarrow
Thank you all for joining us for the main live program here LIVE! We're going to start our breakouts now with an update on the latest ONTAP version! But stick around here if that doesn't interest you for more featured sessions as part of the live keynote and featured sessions!
https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1032329011713540126
languid kayak
Wooooohoooooooooo!!!!!!!!
opal yarrow
Ninja! LTNS!
languid kayak
Ninja! LTNS!
IKR! Time to get back into the swing of things, miss you guys!
bronze blaze
Only 25 people allowed in that What's New channel?
silk light
We're trying to sort that out. Totally unexpected 😕
dusky ore
Yeah, I can't join either
opal yarrow
It's supposed to 50, we're working on it.
languid kayak
LOVE the concept of a tamper-proof snapshot! Increased flexibility of locking down a subset of the data with just an OS upgrade!
elfin garden
I dropped so someone else can join.
dusky ore
too late 😦
keen crest
Guess I can't join it either...
opal yarrow
Staff, let's sit out so customers can join
keen crest
Yeah, I'm not gonna join until you say it's "fixed".
dusky ore
at least I get a spoiler whats going on .via mouse-over...
half dragon
Keith had a great point about long term risks (like disabling snapshot schedules).
Even if that's not something done intentionally, it could be done by mistake and cause big issues.
keen crest
Just remember to stop all other presentations and watch me on the stream in.. 10 minutes? 🙂
Huge. My Taylor Swift MP3s alone take up several yottabytes.
half dragon
Just remember to stop all other presentations and watch me on the stream in.. 10...
Wouldn't miss it for the world
hazy compass
Are these being recorded and going to be made available afterwards?
opal yarrow
PSA: This setting is your friend
silk light
Are these being recorded and going to be made available afterwards?
yes!
opal yarrow
If you have questions for Keith, you can either unmute yourself and ask LIVE or drop it in here and I will read it when he checks in for questions
dusky ore
you cant't unmute
silk light
try that again plz
dusky ore
"you do not have permission to speak in this channel"
hazy compass
Still no
dusky ore
not that I have a question currently 😉
opal yarrow
always these little kinks in the first session 🙂
hazy compass
Now we know why official Insight streams are pre-recorded.
opal yarrow
PSA: This setting is your friend
jolly wharf
I am locked out of the watch party channel, is there a way to get back in?
dusky oak
Too many viewers
silk light
Working on an Idea for that. The cap was not expected
jolly wharf
cool, no worries
clear ice
@opal yarrow not sure if the questions in the presentations chat are being relayed, but I also wanted to ask about the possibility of the Ransomware piece being enabled by default, then perhaps unlock the snapshot it takes in the event of a ransomware event if needed for a fee. its a bit backwards I guess, but the cost is fairly prohibitive as it currently stands.
hazy compass
@cyan scroll
opal yarrow
<@277739185786454016> not sure if the questions in the presentations chat are be...
I got you, thanks for the question!
silk light
Should be able to follow along in the watch party channel for some extra capacity
opal yarrow
Thanks Drew!
keen crest
So wait @silk light are you streaming your screen of another Discord stream?
silk light
Yep! Remote Desktop to another PC
jolly wharf
that gif is breaking by brain
keen crest
Technology!
jolly wharf
so good though
silk light
I'll stop the notification sounds at the next break
keen crest
Okay, who killed my GIF?
opal yarrow
Sorry had to delete that GIF, I was about to vomit.
hazy compass
Sorry had to delete that GIF, I was about to vomit.
Thanks for that
hazy compass
https://tenor.com/view/spinning-top-inception-movie-gif-12483894
Do you collect these? I've seen the ads but have not been tempted. I have a co-worker who has a dozen or so though.
keen crest
I thought about reposting it. I've always wanted to be banned from a Discord channel.
keen crest
Do you collect these? I've seen the ads but have not been tempted. I have a co-w...
Nope, it's just from Inception.
wispy marsh
is the Ransomware Fpolicy a static definition? or is it feed updated?
jolly wharf
Nope, it's just from Inception.
That is a great mind breaking movie!
hazy compass
Yeah, it's probably time for a re-watch
clear ice
Can you view the events that fpolicy is flagging? To kind of review what it would do before enabling the actual blocking.
These questions are in the chat for the presentation already.
opal yarrow
Sorry we're recording the session and I'm not monitoring that, plus we can't store them for posterity.
half dragon
FPolicy blocking is static, but you can go in and add/remove extensions
clear ice
That was my understanding of the current version, was wondering if it had changed. I believe it is logged to data that only Netapp support can access.
hazy compass
@languid kayak Did you just re-join? I see you're unmuted and I'm wondering if new-joiners are able to control their own mute button.
half dragon
I've asked before and been told no. Haven't been told of any changes in 9.12.1 with fpolicy
fringe jolt
The integration with the Support site is huge.
silk light
Darkmode FTW
languid kayak
<@696364917489664082> Did you just re-join? I see you're unmuted and I'm wonderi...
Yokes! That must be it. Didn't realize I wan unmuted
hazy compass
Nothing awkward was broadcast.
dusky ore
talk more about SVM Data Mobility pls!
languid kayak
Anyone say something about SnapLock+FlexGroup support? ;P
green portal
Need S3 SnapMirror integrated with SVM-DR
dusky ore
will we able to use this for migration of SVM with all the different protocols? SVM migrate, yes
opal yarrow
keen crest
That session has two great speakers... and me!
half dragon
Still have a 25 viewer limit?
languid kayak
Gotta back that FlexGroup UP!!
keen crest
Still have a 25 viewer limit?
Go to Watch Party and you can see it.
dusky ore
NFS4 session trunking plus flexgroup for NFS datastores in vSphere will be awesome!
rose grove
Still have a 25 viewer limit?
We are working around the limits
half dragon
Yeah that works
opal yarrow
You can join in Watch Party as well
tame lava
What is SnapMirror unification?
prisma folio
Did you know that if you are a partner you can access pre-release versions of ONTAP in the virtual Early Access Program via https://labondemand.netapp.com? Did you knwo that if you are a customer you can access pre-release versions of ONTAP you can access the Early Access Program via https://handsonlabs.netapp.com? These EAPs are usually available a couple months before the RC. You can provide early feedback to the product managment team!
dusky ore
regarding SVM Mobility: is it also supported for FAS with HDD aggrs? fingerscrossed
silk light
velvet shale
@dusky ore Yes.
keen crest
Okay folks, hair/makeup done, time for me to get in front of the camera!
languid kayak
Okay folks, hair/makeup done, time for me to get in front of the camera!
break a leg!
keen crest
Okay while Ronen is talking, I'm here.
fringe jolt
Is that pNFS?
dusky ore
NFS4 session trunking plus flexgroup for NFS datastores in vSphere will be aweso...
follow-up: do we need vSphere 8 for this? I think vSphere 7 already supported NFS trunking before right?
dusky ore
Is that pNFS?
I guess not because pNFS was supported before in ONTAP
valid torrent
Thanks, Keith!
fringe jolt
I think this is specific to ESXi.
dusky ore
awesome session, thanks
fringe jolt
Right?
languid kayak
Ya ROCKED IT, Keith! Great job!!!
fringe jolt
Thanks Keith!
keen crest
Is Keith done? Tune back into the main Insight stream... the speaker only sucks a little.
half dragon
Wait, how are you talking here and to ROnan?
hazy compass
I just left and re-joined and I now have control over my mute button @silk light @opal yarrow, just an FYI.
keen crest
Every time I've offscreen I'm on a keyboard.
jolly wharf
Is Keith done? Tune back into the main Insight stream... the speaker only sucks ...
is that on NetApp.tv?
keen crest
is that on NetApp.tv?
Yup, Channel 1 stream.
prisma folio
Great demo Bax!
keen crest
LOL. Thanks Chris.. I had some expert help behind the scenes. 😉
dusky ore
there are too many streams, I need more monitors 😫
keen crest
Right? Imagine the number of people yelling at me to answer chat questions on different streams?
tame fulcrum
Those 1994 outfits!
keen crest
And I keep saying "I'm on camera, I can't do chat people!"
tame fulcrum
Jeff you're killing it
keen crest
Ah thanks.
fringe jolt
Check!
keen crest
The Support integration in BlueXP is great.
jolly wharf
I am definitely enjoying the Discord stream. Appreciate it!!!
keen crest
Love the Discord as well. Interactivity at least of a sort!
tame fulcrum
F U N G I B L E
fringe jolt
One of my favorite words.
I like the word bamboozle.
keen crest
Bamboozle? That's unpossible!
opal yarrow
He did a heckin bamboozle!
hazy compass
sesquipedalian
keen crest
One of my favorite demos coming up to close out this Ronen/Jeff show.
And boy am I tired of chatting here everytime the camera cuts to Ronen.
hazy compass
He did a heckin bamboozle!
Nick is basically a collection of memes with a beard.
a fabulous beard at that
kind chasm
Why was subnets/subneting took out of the interface? it used to allow us to create a range of ip(s) to assign to lifs? Could that be added back? or better could there be any other 3rd party integrations aka like infoblox?
opal yarrow
The beard is the star, I'm just the vessel that moves it from place to place.
tame fulcrum
#spearfished
rose grove
a fabulous beard at that
I'm giving him a run for his money these days
keen crest
I've had his credentials for weeks now.
rose grove
Scott's session is giving me classic INSIGHT session vibes
keen crest
Okay folks, have to log off for a bit... some analyst briefings to actually do... in person (?!?) at the office here.
hazy compass
I'm giving him a run for his money these days
I gave up on the beard and just let the head hair grow.
rose grove
I gave up on the beard and just let the head hair grow.
Yeah I am unable to do this
hazy compass
Yeah I am unable to do this
And my beard game was not as on-point as some of you.
wispy marsh
storage efficiencies are enabled on my beard
tame fulcrum
Bravo @keen crest !
hazy compass
storage efficiencies are enabled on my beard
I hope you're not storing food in your beard.
rose grove
I hope you're not storing food in your beard.
My grandad always said he was saving it for Ron
hazy compass
My grandad always said he was saving it for Ron
Was him name Ron?
forest wraith
If your physical port is using a native vlan, is there any way to tell what that vlan is from OnTap?
fringe jolt
Why was subnets/subneting took out of the interface? it used to allow us to cre...
This question is outstanding. I'm not sure if this was added to 9.12 or not.
rose grove
Was him name Ron?
No he was a punny guy, it was later’on
hazy compass
If your physical port is using a native vlan, is there any way to tell what that...
Isn't there a "discovered IP addresses" or something that would give you a clue?
kind chasm
It was in the SM interface, but recent versions removed the subnet / automatic ip assignment for lifs in the gui. Currently we are on 9.10.1P7 but I don't see that added back yet.
forest wraith
Isn't there a "discovered IP addresses" or something that would give you a clue?
Where do you see that?
kind chasm
Assuming some sort of zapi / rest conversion or thinking it wasn't used anymore?
We used it all the time...
Its there via Cmd line aka 'subnet show' but now I'm thinking it was deprecated for some reason that I dont understand
half dragon
Pretty sure it's like everything else that fell out of System Manager... it fell out in favor of "simplicity" and won't add it back in unless folks raise a stink
hazy compass
Where do you see that?
I can't remember now, looking for it.
half dragon
Are these Discord sessions going to end up on netapp.tv? I know I asked that before but I don't remember seeing an answer
rose grove
We are recording them where we can, they will go up somewhere
forest wraith
There is no vlan field in net int show
half dragon
I want to be able to share them with customers, would be a shame to have them stuck on Discord
rose grove
Is native VLAN in the CDP/LLDP information? I would have to check
opal yarrow
Are these Discord sessions going to end up on netapp.tv? I know I asked that bef...
That's the plan, yes.
forest wraith
Is native VLAN in the CDP/LLDP information? I would have to check
No, it is not.
opal yarrow
(assuming I don't completely screw this up)
Yall think IP routing is fun, try audio routing.
rose grove
Yeah, this is a great learning experience
silk light
What about IP-based audio routing? Dante or AVB?
dusky ore
hahaha
tame fulcrum
"Two bald guys and one BlueXP" --great line 🤣 (from the Managing your hybrid multicloud data estate stream, that is)
dusky ore
Will the cluster backend use RDMA if I have a 4-node with AFF A400 & FAS8700?
so the FAS does not support RDMA, right?
ok thx
silk light
Thanks, IEEE
opal yarrow
srsly
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half dragon
Whomever is in charge of NetApp.tv really needs to work on the search functionality.
This session is called BlueXP 101 on the title deck, nothing shows up if you search for that. Have to just search for BlueXP
prisma folio
Whomever is in charge of NetApp.tv really needs to work on the search functional...
It was because we didn't share the product name before the release...
half dragon
Not sure how that's applicable. This is the live content search.
prisma folio
Not sure how that's applicable. This is the live content search.
The catalog was published weeks ago.
fossil badger
That's because the session is actually titled "Managing your hybrid multicloud data estate"
half dragon
Yeah, should have BlueXP 101 as a keyword
Also, BlueXP 101 search should still show results for BlueXP
prisma folio
Yeah, should have BlueXP 101 as a keyword
Again, cant have a keyword that pre-announces a product...
half dragon
Adding extra characters shouldn't eliminate keyword matches
silk light
This probably isn't the place for this discussion
dusky ore
I read something about iSCSI LIFs being able to LIF-failover with ONTAP 9.11 or 9.12? Just like with NFS or SMB LIFs
or is this only for ASA?
opal yarrow
I read something about iSCSI LIFs being able to LIF-failover with ONTAP 9.11 or ...
@stiff tinsel <followup>
hazy compass
If anyone remembers the joy of Clustered Data ONTAP networking pre 8.3, you'll know it has come a very, very long way.
languid kayak
Did someone say Forsight??
prisma folio
GX
languid kayak
1981 Honda Civic 2dr+hatchback baby!
prisma folio
Sorry
kind chasm
https://discord.com/channels/855068651522490400/1034476612625911849/103700763297...
I may have clicked on it 20 times does that count?
wispy marsh
87 Rx7 Turbo
keen crest
_(assuming I don't completely screw this up)_
My favorite part of GX is the version of it was 10.x. So everytime someone asks me when ONTAP 10 is coming, I tell them we already had it 15 years ago. 😉
wispy marsh
Well done @stiff tinsel
hazy compass
oooh, ADP is a favourite of mine as well.
kind chasm
ADP, has a max # of drives though which is good for smaller clusters, but bigger clusters / # of disks we had some issues, unless that max # of drives has changed
keen crest
Also no joke I've been worried that if we ever move from ONTAP 9.12, etc to ONTAP 10 if we'd accidentally break something that points to ONTAP GX 10.0. LOL.
deft stream
our very own NetApp Y2k event 😕 lol
autumn marsh
Also no joke I've been worried that if we ever move from ONTAP 9.12, etc to ONTA...
Then use ONTAP11 like MS did. with Windows 9 which was never there
kind chasm
Its a long way to 10 9.13.... 9.19... 9.20... 🙂
dusky ore
Question regarding the tamper-proof snapshots: How does that work with "normal" snapshots created after a SnapLock snapshot? Usually when I restore to a certain snapshot all the snapshots having being created after that one will be gone. But if we have that one tamper-proof snapshot it shouldn't allow that... right?
Volume - 2022-10-06 (current date)
Snap_Daily - 2022-10-05
Snap_Daily - 2022-10-04 (tamper-proof snapshot)
Snap_Daily - 2022-10-03
Snap_Daily - 2022-10-02 --> I will restore to this snapshot
Snap_Daily - 2022-10-01```Pretty sure it's the first 48 devices still.
dusky ore
Its a long way to 10 9.13.... 9.19... 9.20... 🙂
ohhh what are the beer names btw?
wispy marsh
10.1 release notes (skipping 10.0)
stiff tinsel
My favorite part of GX is the version of it was 10.x. So everytime someone asks ...
ONTAP 7 + ONTAP 10 (GX) = ONTAP 8.0
keen crest
Its a long way to 10 9.13.... 9.19... 9.20... 🙂
Yeah... we've certainly discussed internally, but the more modern experience is to have these non-disruptive modular upgrades "forever" instead of big massive upgrades that are the traditional first-digit number. So who knows when/if we'll do something like ONTAP 10/11?
autumn marsh
ohhh what are the beer names btw?
One of them (9.13 or 14) should be „Tannenzäpfchen“. I don’t know how the non-Germans work with that
dusky ore
I'm from Germany I heard some rumors about Tannenzäpfle
!!!!
😄
that's what I meant
stiff tinsel
Pretty sure it's the first 48 devices still.
Save the ADP chatter for Thursday! But, while we're on the subject, ADP will be implemented across a maximum of 24x HDDs or 48x SSDs during initialization. There are ways to grow beyond that, though.
hazy compass
ADP, has a max # of drives though which is good for smaller clusters, but bigger...
Confirmed, 48 for AFF, 24 for FAS. Why would you want more though?
stiff tinsel
Well done <@900384426930868224>
Thank you!
keen crest
I've been here 15 years and I still haven't personally cracked the code on who actually gets to pick the beer codenames. 🙂 Then again, I haven't forced Octavian to tell me either. 🙂
dusky ore
It's a good one
autumn marsh
US always forget about MCC 😀
kind chasm
well by x2
hazy compass
Yeah, I don't give a lot of mind share to MCC, there's not a lot of that up here in Canada.
stiff tinsel
well by x2
Yep - 2x is the factor for mirroring. This is also the case for local SyncMirror, which is also supported.
deft stream
MCC = Mc Chicken...its well past lunch time on the east coast lol
autumn marsh
It was very funny when NetApp announced cDOT 8.3 at the Insight in Berlin (EMEA) and 90% where asking for MCC. They learned their lesson, the year after the message was „we have MCC“ 😀
rose grove
Germany and UK have always been hotspots for MetroCluster
kind chasm
Switched from MCC FC to MCC IP and its has been working great though for us. I think were one of the first to stretch the limits of distance too.
keen crest
I kept putting in product requirements for MCC Token Ring, but engineering kept yelling at me.
deft stream
lol token ring....ahhh memories
minor bronzeBOT
@slow tendon
opal yarrow
Congrats @slow tendon! Will be in touch at the end of the week!
slow tendon
dusky ore
I've missed the earlier sessions/keynote but I'm still trying to understand the BlueXP part:
Is it basically Cloud Manager, Active IQ, Cloud Insights and the GUI of the local system managers (ONTAP, SANtricity & StorageGRID) combined under the same backend?
silk light
📢 To make them a little easier to find, giveaways have been moved to the #┊・giveaways channel. 🚨
Same rules as before 🙂
opal yarrow
I've missed the earlier sessions/keynote but I'm still trying to understand the ...
<paging @keen crest>
keen crest
I've missed the earlier sessions/keynote but I'm still trying to understand the ...
Hey @dusky ore I think that's a good summary of the functionality. We believe that the sum will be more than the whole of its parts by allowing us to embed capabilities from any of those products you mention easily with any of the others. (For example, calling the backup/recovery capabilities from what used to be Cloud Backup directly from the Ransomware Protection dashboard).
Oh also managing Keystone directly from BlueXP, plus digital wallet to manage and even swap your cloud data services.
opal yarrow
Just a reminder that this is a public forum, and this is a new announcement as of this morning. There is still some parts and pieces that are NDA privileged, and to respect those boundaries, please! Double-verify you can talk about things or let @keen crest dance that line for you.
stiff tinsel
@dusky ore Regarding iSCSI LIF failover: Confirmed to be available in ONTAP 9.11, but only for ASA. TBD what happens in the future.
languid kayak
HA! Former decru customer!
static bane
I'd really like to see that iSCSI lif failover move beyond ASA
stiff tinsel
I'd really like to see that iSCSI lif failover move beyond ASA
That's why I put the cabeat "TBD what happens in the future." Otherwise noted.
hazy compass
<@132611480943198208> Regarding iSCSI LIF failover: Confirmed to be available ...
This is interesting and I'd like to understand the "why" behind this, perhaps there's some OS' that don't support ALUA or don't have MPIO software?
hazy compass
I'd really like to see that iSCSI lif failover move beyond ASA
What's the use case that wouldn't be covered by ALUA/MPIO or even LACP?
sacred wolf
HA! Former decru customer!
I still have parts of a decru box that I scrapped years ago.. security hardware is nuts electronically. Did you ever open one? X-ray detection circuitry and tamper switches
LIF failover is faster iirc
Than ALUA
hazy compass
Provided the ARP tables populate fast enough.
clear ice
What's the use case that wouldn't be covered by ALUA/MPIO or even LACP?
I'd be interested in understanding that a bit better as well. I generally just let the paths right themself as switches reboot/controllers or whatever. Bouncing connections back and forth more seems like asking for issues, as in the netapp moving them to the other lif i mean.
hazy compass
I'd be interested in understanding that a bit better as well. I generally just ...
Agreed.
sacred wolf
We’ve got this page on it Chris - https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/san-admin/asa-iscsi-lif-fo-task.html
hazy compass
Yeah, I read that page before asking the "why" above just in case RTFM covered my question.
stiff tinsel
If your physical port is using a native vlan, is there any way to tell what that...
You can use 'network interface show' for this. The limitation is that it cannot show the upstream switch's native VLAN if the ONTAP port is not VLAN-ed as well.
sacred wolf
Good stuff.
hazy compass
You can use 'network interface show' for this. The limitation is that it cannot...
I think the intent was to determine what the native VLAN is, if any.
cold geyser
the upstream switch's native VLAN cannot be detected by a device attached to it
*upstream switch port's native VLAN
hazy compass
I think the best you could do is run pktt on the port then look at the subnets visible, if any.
silk light
LLDP and CDP can do that, IIRC. They just usually don't.
cold geyser
the 1q VLAN tagging doesn't happen until the packet egresses from the upstream port
and then gets stripped when it goes down to the attached device to the port
hazy compass
However, is a "native" VLAN a VLAN at all or is it a hybrid access/L2 port?
cold geyser
my vote: not even a VLAN
hazy compass
I don't believe packets in a native VLAN have a VLAN header at all, but I've never looked into that.
sacred wolf
LLDP and CDP *can* do that, IIRC. They just usually don't.
I was just looking that up, ha. I didn’t think CDP could, but LLDP could have a TLV for it
hazy compass
I've always just assumed that's how it was accomplished.
cold geyser
well... there are 2 types of "native"
hazy compass
go on
stiff tinsel
well... there are 2 types of "native"
Those who understand binary and those who do not?
hazy compass
A native VLAN is a special VLAN whose traffic traverses on the 802.1Q trunk without any VLAN tag
source: https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/difference-between-default-vlan-and-native-vlan/
cold geyser
there is the switch "native" which usally is 1 and really means "untagged"
then... there's the "native" VLAN of a trunked port
hazy compass
While it does usually default to 1, I think security best practice is to modify that.
cold geyser
that's the VLAN tag that gets applied for traffic that is not tagged on that port
hazy compass
Trunk being 802.11q and not Nortel's definition of trunk which is LACP to everyone else.
cold geyser
LOL
hazy compass
Back when I was on the team of cable company launching a phone service, we (the datacentre guys) had quite the debate over what a "trunk" is with the TelCo guys.
hazy compass
there is the switch "native" which usally is 1 and really means "untagged"
I think this is the "default VLAN"
Indoubatable
cold geyser
that's what security would want to change, yes
and that's irrelevant to ONTAP since ONTAP doesn't even see that
hazy compass
True enough. So, to answer the question I believe was asked, no, there is no command to determine if there is a native VLAN on a link attached to a port however, that doesn't mean you can't figure it out using tools available on-box.
stiff tinsel
True enough. So, to answer the question I *believe* was asked, no, there is no c...
If it is VLAN-ed inside of ONTAP, then it will show up in 'network interface show' output as something like e0e-516 et al.
hazy compass
Like I said, the question I believe was asked.
stiff tinsel
If it is on a VLAN outside of ONTAP, then you are correct: you'd have to use tools on the switches or elsewhere to deduce it.
hazy compass
IE: check if there is a native VLAN assigned on a port that was provisioned for you.
@opal yarrow It really whip's the llama's ass!
dusky ore
Will the NetApp logo change back to blue again now that we have that BlueXP? 🤓
cold geyser
if you have a native VLAN... ONTAP does not need to do anything to use it
hazy compass
No, but for security reasons someone may want to confirm that there is NOT one.
cold geyser
then set every port on the switch to "trunk". Then ONTAP will be REQUIRED to create a VLAN to use a port
hazy compass
I have, in the past, used a default native VLAN on a0a for mgmt and then all the other lifs on a0a-xyz
hazy compass
then set every port on the switch to "trunk". Then ONTAP will be REQUIRED to cr...
Provided the NetApp admin has that access.
cold geyser
correct
ivory glen
That is really cool @languid galleon !
silk light
A GK Karate Chop?
dusky ore
Hey <@132611480943198208> I think that's a good summary of the functionality. We...
One more question: If BlueXP should be my (future) single pane of glass what happens to Active IQ Unified Manager?
Any plans to also integrate that into BlueXP?
hazy compass
If BlueXP is cloud-only, there still needs to be something for dark sites.
valid torrent
will be private and restricted modes/versions
opal yarrow
Questions for Kevin?
valid torrent
Where should a customer start? How can a VAR partner get started with Spot?
opal yarrow
15 min bio break and then we're back at the top of the hour with @covert juniper! It's time to geek out on some HARDWARE! https://discord.com/events/855068651522490400/1032355328437788673
fluid palm
If BlueXP is cloud-only, there still needs to be something for dark sites.
That would be interesting for my company also, since we are heavily regulated what data can be send outside
hazy compass
lol...SNek is what I noticed too
ivory glen
Chris is indeed the man
drowsy temple
You can manage 100% on-premises env on BlueXP, for example it has the same Backu...
I tried to add on-premises stuff (ONTAP and StorageGRID) to BlueXP. The 2nd screen insists on a cloud connector so I'm dead in the water - no cloud here. It seems like somebody decided that all-cloud or hybrid-cloud was all they really wanted to support today.
silk light
@ivory glen everything looking good and sounding okay in the watch party channel?
ivory glen
Aye aye cap'n
silk light
Thanks
opal yarrow
Drop in questions here for Chris and I'll relay them, or you're welcome to come off mute and ask yourself!
dusky ore
I tried to add on-premises stuff (ONTAP and StorageGRID) to BlueXP. The 2nd scr...
You can deploy that connector to on-prem 😉
https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/cloud-manager-setup-admin/concept-connectors.html
kind chasm
A little confused on why model wise this goes from a700 -> a900? would think more traditional would be a700 -> a710, a720 ?
stiff tinsel
A little confused on why model wise this goes from a700 -> a900? would think ...
Guys like Chris and I don't get to chose the names. That is a Product Marketing decision.
kind chasm
Gotcha. 🙂
opal yarrow
hell, now I even wanna know why
opal yarrow
Never thought about that... we did A200, A220, A250
opal yarrow
A250 is a MONSTER.
stiff tinsel
yes it did
drowsy temple
You can deploy that connector to on-prem 😉
https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/cloud-...
Thanks. I just read the docs and it requires RHEL7, not RHEL8. Any chance of supporting 8 soon?
hazy compass
Because the AFF A800 came out in between
kind chasm
thanks for the clarification 🙂
solid mountain
Thanks. I just read the docs and it requires RHEL7, not RHEL8. Any chance of s...
Very soon
green portal
Wait Scott Bell is back?
stiff tinsel
Wait Scott Bell is back?
Present and accounted for!
green portal
Present and accounted for!
I must have been under a rock lately. Welcome Back. I bet you can’t wait for me to bother you on teams. 🙂
stiff tinsel
I'll be here and waiting!
hazy compass
I sure wish this switch was available 9 months ago so I wouldn't have to have an awkward conversation with my customers with multiple A400s on the BES switch.
stiff tinsel
@opal yarrow Yes, it is possible to conceivably connect a bunch of 4x breakout cables to the switch. You just need to modify the start-up script to do so.
opal yarrow
If you're interested in Harvest, that team is centralized here in #┊・harvest-nabox🔒, drop by and say hello to @valid remnant!
hazy compass
What was the 100Gbit NIC Chris mentioned at the start, X91153A?
stiff tinsel
What was the 100Gbit NIC Chris mentioned at the start, X91153A?
For the AFF A900?
hazy compass
Yes
stiff tinsel
Yes, it is.
hazy compass
Looking at HWU, if you choose switchless, it tells you it's going to use the X91440A, you don't get the X91153A in HWU unless you choose switched in the "supported connections" area.
Is this correct or a copy/paste issue from the A700 content?
stiff tinsel
Looks like a order of display error. If you look at options 2 & 3 you can see the switchless 100GbE connections.
keen crest
Guys like Chris and I don't get to chose the names. That is a Product Marketing...
If only someone from Product Marketing was here to talk about how we number products.
stiff tinsel
If only someone from Product Marketing was here to talk about how we number prod...
Know anybody that can do that?
keen crest
Look, it's because the A900 is quantitatively 200 better than the A700. Sheesh.
cold geyser
we say "Marketing" and see who magically appears!
stiff tinsel
Because 'Master Reset Switch' sounds better than 'Off Button'
keen crest
Sorry, you know, long marketing lunches at fancy restaurants, the usual. 🤣 (Dear HR: This is a joke.)
Umm my audio of Chris cut out, is that just me?
silk light
Just you
hazy compass
Audio fine here
keen crest
Okay, thanks.. very weird.
opal yarrow
Ya need some o' that-there WiFi 6E sir
keen crest
I'm in the office, funny...
hazy compass
Model names: There was previously F720/F740/F760...maybe that's why?
hazy compass
@stiff tinsel What chipset does the X91153A use?
opal yarrow
I think it's his wifi actually. Pixelated slides are a giveaway.
Speaking of giveaways, Don't forget to fill out our survey and drop by the #┊・giveaways channel and click the Participate button!
keen crest
Okay, so the weird part is I joined from my phone and I can see him.
But even stopping/starting Discord entirely on my PC didn't work.
hazy compass
Speaking of giveaways, Don't forget to fill out our survey and drop by the <#103...
How many are you doing each day?
opal yarrow
2 per day
ivory glen
There is a platinum EcoVadis Medal you can receive:
https://support.ecovadis.com/hc/en-us/articles/210460227-What-are-the-score-requirements-and-eligibility-criteria-for-EcoVadis-Medals-
#goals for next time Chris! 🙂
deft stream
i had to stop the stream because vpn and discord sux...and i need to recover some servers in the lab from a power outage 😕
dusky ore
No new entry-FAS hardware announcements? ☹️
stiff tinsel
No new entry-FAS hardware announcements? ☹️
No, sorry.
stiff tinsel
it's a damned monster box.
Yes it is. The A250 is awesome.
ivory glen
it's a damned monster box.
Is Jeff still here? Think we've got a marketing line for them to use.
dusky ore
yeah.... but a entry-level FAS with 25Gb would be great
FAS8300 is a bit too much for some customers
tacit kindle
No new entry-FAS hardware announcements? ☹️
Isnt that what Nick is showing above the NEW P190 (Purple) 😉
opal yarrow
It's probably got bigger specs that a 190
dusky ore
now we're talking 😄
but now I really want a chassis in the DC with transparent windows
we need more RGB in the DC! 🌈
opal yarrow
I may or may not have contacted EKWB last summer trying to do a side project to water-cool a storage array. I need to revisit that.
rose grove
yeah.... but a entry-level FAS with 25Gb would be great
Could you theoretically use 25GbE to its potential with an entry level spinning disk system though? Genuinely curious on that sort of thing.
fringe jolt
No
opal yarrow
^Good point, probably not without a lot of parallel throughput
fringe jolt
Define entry level...
If you mean 2750/190, no. They only have either 8 or 12 CPUs if memory serves.
12 CPUs might.
woven stirrup
Liquid cooling ?
blissful comet
we need more RGB in the DC! 🌈
I'm still rocking several NetApp racks in ours with the blue backlighting, even though our physical footprint has shrunk to only 2 of them in use
dusky ore
If you mean 2750/190, no. They only have either 8 or 12 CPUs if memory serves.
ask Chris, he's on HWU right now 😉
ivory glen
VPAT = Voluntary Product Assessment Template.
fringe jolt
ask Chris, he's on HWU right now 😉
LOL
hazy compass
Not only has the price dropped, but now you can order with only 12 drives instead of a minimum of 24.
FAS 500f that is
dusky ore
Not only has the price dropped, but now you can order with only 12 drives instea...
now we only need smaller QLC SSDs...
hazy compass
now we only need smaller QLC SSDs...
Agreed, so we can compete with Pure's C-series.
fringe jolt
Bye everyone!
blissful comet
Congrats <@162633898881187841> !
woo hoo!
opal yarrow
Thanks for a great day of interactive sessions everyone! Please do fill out the survey and give us your feedback! This is totally an experiment and we want to know if you like this format! Not just for Insight, but for any and all events and activities we have planned for the future!
We'll see you tomorrow morning at 9AM Pacific for Andy Crudge from AWS going over FSx ONTAP!
zealous dune
Does anyone know what happened to the Rivian Insight session?
I was super keen on watching it, and I can't seem to find it.
static bane
What's the use case that wouldn't be covered by ALUA/MPIO or even LACP?
Solidfire transitions. SF had no ALUA requirement.
brisk wharf
Does anyone know what happened to the Rivian Insight session?
Fairly sure all the on-demand content from Insight 2022 will be available from Nov 4 onwards. Unless someone throws a ball at me and tells me I am wrong.
Actually thats the key notes, so yeah someone should throw a ball at me. Let me poke around and see if I can find out more.
zealous dune
Thanks mate.
keen crest
All the on-demand stuff should be available now. Keynotes streaming in live sessions for APAC and EMEA and available to everyone on Nov 4th. Not sure about a Rivian session, doesn't ring a bell for me, but I haven't been tracking all the break-outs. Where did you see reference to it @zealous dune ?
keen crest
Awww man, that @opal yarrow guy is back on Channel 1 again... he seems awfully repetitive. 🙂
zealous dune
What a magnificent beard tho
keen crest
I will try and dig up the email reference.
Indeed... checking on that session for you.
brisk wharf
That beard.
subtle mulch
Insight2022 already had maximum participant?
zealous dune
It seems that way in the chat.
subtle mulch
No other way to join? 🥲
brisk wharf
We are aware of this issue. Apologies for the inconvenience.
zealous dune
All the cool kids chat in here anyway 😛
brisk wharf
Exaaaaaaaaaactly.
subtle mulch
brisk wharf
Watch party is already over - sad face 😦
keen crest
I will try and dig up the email reference.
It appears we had some challenges and that session didn't make it through to Insight. My apologies. We are curious though... it shouldn't have been in any emails. It might have been in the catalog briefly before it got pulled.
subtle mulch
Is normal?
keen crest
I will pass along your interest in the session and hopefully we can produce it in the future.
brisk wharf
Is normal?
Hey @subtle mulch it's a known issue, apologies for the inconvenience.
zealous dune
@keen crest that's a shame. No problems, thanks. Yes, I think it was in the timetable, not email.
sacred wolf
this song will haunt my dreams
zealous dune
this song will haunt my dreams
I was just about to say something, but didn't want to get banhammer'd 😛
sacred wolf
🤣
keen crest
this song will haunt my dreams
Imagine if you had to hear it multiple times a day for the last two months.
sacred wolf
pls no
zealous dune
The whole office was just "oh my god what is this"
brisk wharf
Imagine if you had to hear it multiple times a day for the last two months.
Jeff has it as his ring tone. For sure!
keen crest
Often times in forward and reverse as I was doing edit suggestions.
Oh, and the funny part is when it's first suggested as a track, it has a "watermark" (soundmark?) in it so you can't use it, a slightly subliminal voice whispering the name of the stock music site. That we didn't buy/remove til it was final.
So we had to listen to this subliminal voice over and over and over again during the reviews.
sacred wolf
haha
brisk wharf
Buy Now Buy Now Buy Now
keen crest
I swear I made some weird Amazon purchases that week.
zealous dune
trab pu kcip
zealous dune
I did have a chuckle when they said "we don't call it on prem anymore, we call it off cloud"
there needs to be a :kool-aid:
brisk wharf
On-premises is just "Soon to be Cloud" 😉
silk light
- Premises
brisk wharf
🙂
silk light
🙂
brisk wharf
For those that are interested we have a blog post up now that speaks about BlueXP - https://www.netapp.com/blog/meet-netapp-bluexp/
sacred wolf
so what do we think about combined S3 and NAS access to the same volume? pretty cool huh? 😄
zealous dune
I think this is cool. This will help compete with things like VAST. I must let Rob know. 😛
sacred wolf
hah
brisk wharf
The suite of capabilities baked into Spot is actually quite impressive.
Oh here we go......next song!
opal yarrow
Late night APAC crew! It's 9PM here in Sin City! Thanks for hangin with us! You're in good hands with Alex and Ross (Bax too). All the sessions/events we had today here in Discord were recorded and will be available ASAP! The rest will be as well over the next couple of days.
brisk wharf
Nice @opal yarrow! I'm looking forward to catching up on those Discord sessions.
Huge kudo's to our Digital Support crew. 🙂
sacred wolf
woo digital support strategy *high fives @silk light and @brisk wharf *
I'll delete that.. the waving is annoying after a few.. hah
brisk wharf
You don't want to see Tom hanks waving forever... and ever?
opal yarrow
Yes please refrain from GIF seizures in chat.
sacred wolf
David S Pumpkins? 😄
opal yarrow
While I've got you, if you wouldn't mind, we'd love to hear feedback from you and get to know you better! Would you do us a the favor of filling out our survey? I slaved over it myself. https://form.jotform.com/223036919644056
brisk wharf
Taco Cloud. 🌮
keen crest
Man, all the good animated GIFs get deleted.
And btw, the taco truck in the cloud absolutely was edit-proof in the script of that video.
Anytime someone suggested scrapping it, we told them no taco truck no random animated video.
brisk wharf
I am glad the taco truck made it. #worthit
sacred wolf
I want tacos. They've just opened Taco Bell here in Australia.
brisk wharf
I want tacos. They've just opened Taco Bell here in Australia.
That's dangerous. 😮
opal yarrow
That ... is something I've always taken for granted. I'm not sure I could live without Taco Bell.
brisk wharf
We have Guzmen and Gomez chain here in Singapore. It hits the spot.
sacred wolf
GyG is amazing
spice stone
We have Guzmen and Gomez chain here in Singapore. It hits the spot.
ahhh the Australian GyG are everywhere in Asia... there is even like one or two in Tokyo
sacred wolf
(it was started by an american guy, but it is run from australia at least 😉
brisk wharf
Smart move designing an image life cycle management solution natively built into GCloud, so many customers/on-premise software solutions that need to be refreshed and redesigned or evolved to leverage the cloud.
If you're curious about the Sustainability topic, you can learn more by checking out this series by Matt Watts called WTF - https://www.netapp.tv/details/29650
keen crest
On man, this guy is back again?
keen crest
LOL. Thanks.. I think?
brisk wharf
The restricted mode is going to be helpful! Nice. 🙂
Loving this content speaking to leveraging Digital Advisor! 🙂
brisk wharf
Have a nap, then up again for EMEA launch!
solid mountain
I tried to add on-premises stuff (ONTAP and StorageGRID) to BlueXP. The 2nd scr...
The issue should be resolved, please try again
brisk wharf
Hope everyone has enjoyed the varying topics after the keynote including the intro to BlueXP!
opal yarrow
@solid mountain has done a few excellent videos on his youtube channel going over things in more detail! Highly recommend!
cold geyser
3
silk light
Is a magic number!
dusky oak
Taco talk.
They just opened a Del Taco where I'm at to compete with TBell
Both win my heart with their super easy to modify menu for vegetarian+ options
lean coyote
While I've got you, if you wouldn't mind, we'd love to hear feedback from you an...
Done!
clear ice
The issue should be resolved, please try again
Are you guys working on a virtual appliance option? Setting up a linux box and installing things etc just to kind of see if there is any value here is probably a bit much. My systems are fully onprem and like Ed, I hit that wall with the cloud connector piece immediately. In looking at the doc you linked for running one on-prem it just seemed a bit much to deal with for not really understanding the benefit.
There are so many tools its pretty difficult to keep up with whats what anymore. The onprem active iq, the support site active iq, and probably some others i'm not thinking of, along with adding this additional option.
Thats certainly with me not having a very good understanding at all of what exactly BlueXP can offer for fully on-prem setups, just trying to get a better feel for how it could help.
kind chasm
Are you guys working on a virtual appliance option? Setting up a linux box and ...
The cloud connector at least for Insight was a VM on-prem to proxy & securely connect your on-prem w/ cloud.
clear ice
It looked like you needed to build out a linux box, and then install the software. A packaged appliance would just be a lot cleaner setup and presumably a lot easier to manage.
kind chasm
It looked like you needed to build out a linux box, and then install the softwar...
Ah ok, gotcha. Your right there. or docker image maybe.
clear ice
Yeah just some container version, probably will get done at some point but i guess its a bit new currently.
kind chasm
I'm assuming what they had for Cloud Insights, they would utilize also for BlueXP
rose grove
I like both suggestions a virtual appliance and a container image both sound like good options. I'll make sure that gets back to the product team if they don't pick it up from here
gentle summit
@silk light NetApp employee
silk light
All set, @gentle summit! Glad to have you
opal yarrow
Good morning, INSIGHT! Ready for Day 2?! We'll be kicking things off in about 45 minutes with Andy Crudge from AWS giving us an Intro and Overview + What's New with FSx ONTAP!
wispy marsh
The beard is here!
silk light
We're about to get started ... stick with us 🙂
elfin garden
Gremlins are great. 🙂
valid torrent
nice swirling purple lights. I am being hypnotized!
We can hear you.
Thanks, Andy for persevering and appearing.
opal yarrow
Damn IT depts, right?! 😉
If you have questions for Andy, you can come off mute and jump in, or ask them here in chat and I'll relay when there's a beat/break
fringe jolt
Is there a way to have a node that is shut off except for specific needs or aggregates that are offline so there are no charges or less charges?
Use case: Flexcache to physical FAS/AFF, but have a bigger capacity node/aggr in FSxN that is only powered on as needed to save money.
opal yarrow
At this time, no, but I'll relay it anyway. We used to do the same for long-term archive systems that we only sync'ed up once a month.
elfin garden
Serverless FSxN 😉
wispy marsh
Airgap
fringe jolt
Or if not, is there is a way to have a FSxN template with all the configs so if a new instance is spun up it has all the IP addresses, CIFS AD config, etc. after it is booted?
opal yarrow
Serverless FSxN 😉
FSxN Fargate?!
opal yarrow
Or if not, is there is a way to have a FSxN template with all the configs so if ...
Yes, CloudFormation. Takes 30 mins.
About 10-15 lines of YAML
fringe jolt
Nice.
elfin garden
I would start to look more at CDK versus CloudFormation. And CDK is supported now by Terraform, as well:
https://aws.amazon.com/cdk/
https://developer.hashicorp.com/terraform/cdktf
Starting to see customers get more out of CDK because it allows you to define infrastructure in more of an imperative way that most people are used to (scripting) versus the more declarative nature of CloudFormation or Terraform.
opal yarrow
^Bingo. Thanks Taylor!
fringe jolt
Thanks Nick and Taylor!
Not a question needing mentioned on the call, but this is exactly what I was looking for!
elfin garden
Nick just showing off by mentioning Firecracker. 😉
fringe jolt
Is there documentation on how to set CF/CDK up I could send the customer use case I'm asking about? I could try to find something but I figure someone here might have a handy reference or something I can't quickly find on Google.
opal yarrow
Nick just showing off by mentioning Firecracker. 😉
fringe jolt
elfin garden
SageMaker Training jobs is primarily what Andy is referring to. Being able to select FSxN volumes behind the containers running those jobs.
opal yarrow
I like to poke him about that one every couple of months
valid torrent
Blog on how to use FSxO and sagemaker in FieldPortal. https://fieldportal.netapp.com/content/1629353
Thanks, Andy!
Welcome, Geert.
rose grove
Blog on how to use FSxO and sagemaker in FieldPortal. https://fieldportal.netap...
Wonder how big a bill I can run up for DeepRacer training with that kind of setup
opal yarrow
The evolution and maturity of ANF over the last 5 years has been incredible
Oh this is cool, I had not heard about this!
rose grove
I may be biased but I really love our cloud storage offerings
fringe jolt
I may be biased but I really love our cloud storage offerings
You're biased!
😄
Honestly we struck quick and it shows. We don't slow down in our innovation in the cloud.
rose grove
I’ve seen many different storage start ups over my career, many of them no longer exist, walking around KubeCon last week I saw many more, of which I don’t think many will be here in a decade. There’s something I always return to, enterprise storage is hard, as much as people wish to say otherwise! It shows that 30 years of experience can bring a lot to the table, even in the modern cloud world.
The hyperscalers built good offerings for the beginnings of the cloud, for the applications of the time that reside in the cloud. However as we see more enterprise style long lived applications arrive in the cloud, the requirements shift to performance and enterprise grade features that just weren’t there, we struck on that and have bridged a gap early on that will have a lasting legacy
opal yarrow
Shameless plug... If you're new to ANF and want some more info on architecture, here's a walkthrough I did earlier this year: https://youtu.be/6p0joMfJmgY
minor bronzeBOT
opal yarrow
If you have questions for the presenter, you can come off mute and ask directly, or drop them here in chat and I'll relay them
autumn marsh
NFS 4.1 MP (Session trunking) is now supported? It wasn’t from an ONTAP side in the past if I recall it correctly. Sorry if it’s already said earlier I missed the beginning
opal yarrow
There was some conversation about session trunking in the beginning, but I'll ask to clarify when there's a break.
autumn marsh
Many thanks @opal yarrow
opal yarrow
Anytime, great question!
autumn marsh
So with 9.12.1 we can finally use NFS 4.1 😀
opal yarrow
So, ONTAP 9.12+ is your answer
dusky ore
Is it ok to use the auto FabricPool policy for NFS datastores if the S3 Server is another ONTAP System on-prem? (maybe even on the same switch as the AFF performance tier)
cold geyser
it all depends on how much data goes cold and when it needs read. Of course being in the same DC reduces the risk of perf issues
autumn marsh
Do you see vVols being used in the field?
dusky ore
Is it ok to use the auto FabricPool policy for NFS datastores if the S3 Server i...
or even in a 4-node cluster 😉
so it goes through your NetApp switches
wispy marsh
Flexgroups also potentially open you up to the same types of cascading VM failures if you're spreading it across an entire cluster, No?
autumn marsh
I wouldn’t do it personally and I think the answer regarding risk management was very good 👍🏻
opal yarrow
Do you see vVols being used in the field?
Definitely, especially when there's 1000's of VM's. You get to a certain threshold where SPBM becomes mandatory and it's best to do that with VVOLs.
autumn marsh
Flexgroups also potentially open you up to the same types of cascading VM failur...
It depends as @dusky ore mentioned. FabricPool in the same cluster: yes. S3 outside the same cluster: no
autumn marsh
Definitely, especially when there's 1000's of VM's. You get to a certain thresh...
I personally don’t know anyone using it but here in Europe we may have smaller deployments
opal yarrow
Adoption typically comes alongside a standardization on SPBM policies.
Otherwise, most are still just "kicking tires"
autumn marsh
Fair point @opal yarrow
dusky ore
Regarding the JSON file for RBAC users for OTV: Pleeeaase provide a link or some guidance regarding how to get the JSON right INSIDE the System Manager user creation page (where you need to upload this JSON). Every time I do it you have to google to find out where on the OTV the JSON is hidden again...
dusky ore
Do you see vVols being used in the field?
While we're talking: Does anyone actually use SRM? I don't know any NetApp customer who does 🤷♂️
for vVol I will await the new VASA provider 🤓
autumn marsh
Haha 😀 Same here, as all using MCC no one uses SRM 😀
dusky ore
🇩🇪 land of the metro
rose grove
I've probably done 100+ SRM installs over the years, it was used extensively in FlexPod installs I did
dusky ore
uhhh interesting
rose grove
I've done a lot of MCC as well, but people generally have service catalogues and assign only the highest tier applications to things like stretched-clusters, then do SRM for lower tiers etc
The three tiers I would generally deal with are: In-application HA/replication (SQL AG, Exchange DAG etc), then stretched cluster (MCC) for applications that need the uptime but don't offer in-application options, then SRM for everything else
autumn marsh
Main pain point is or was the price and an additional solution. Most customers have MCC for all or some SVM-DR. Even SM-BC from time to time
opal yarrow
MCC is also MUCH more popular in UK/EU than it is here in the States
Chance wins the award for "First Presenter to use the Full Hour!"
rose grove
You could have given him 2 and he would have filled it
opal yarrow
Note to self for next year