#below-zero-chat
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No because time capsules don't exist in Below Zero.
Not existing does make it hard to find stuff, right enough
Yes for this exact reason. An edge case where you wouldn't have any battery left to deconstruct things like partitions that could lead to a softlock.
How many times has this happened?!
Sorry for ping.
I don't know. Never perhaps.
Someone knows why didn't they added the ice dragon into the game?
Because the Deep Arctic/Methane Ice Caves were cut from the game as well.
Stumbled upon a hostage situation while playing the other day
As the smallest 'leviathan' the squidshark gets no respect
Its a leviathan?
No way
Cant be
it isn't. PDA has a text error
Oh
Or you could say it's right on the edge
Barley. Leviathans are big by default. Smallest is I think baby vent garden or sea treader
4546B has alot of weird critters
And more are still probably unknown
Idk what to do now I finished the game
We've only seen 2 areas of 4546B
And theres probably alot more wildlife out there
Cure the frozen creature. Hatch eggs. Find and hatch Trivalve. Build the best base evar. Find all the music tracks.
Play around with commands (see wiki).
On steam, you can still play the old story. Enter beta code belowzeroearlyaccess then run version EA 8.
Build all Seatruck modules
where can i find all of the prawn suit fragments?
There are enough fragments in ||the mine|| to get the whole blueprint
you can find 2 fragments in the ||outpost zero|| and rest in ||koppa mining site||
well its best to get the 2 cause of oxygen reasons
Unless you wedge the Seatruck in the entrance, then drive it down there
well not everyone can wedge the seatruck there
Technically it’s not even a leviathan, it’s described as one but not placed in the leviathan category
0 respect
I always leave mine on default numbers
i play on around 60 or 70
Actually mine is on default because I never learned how to change it, lol
I wonder when the next game is coming
It’ll probably be in the blog/dev post after the 2.0 updates
Wait how do I do that
do what? did you not find the filtration suit? It got renamed
I have done this
It works, until you want to leave or take a storage module with you
It’s a pain ngl
Where is it
Never heard of such a thing
outside maidas home, just below on the ledge
The moon pool?
Or the garden
: (
diamond deposit? prawn suit drill
I am in the frost basin so it’s gonna have to wait
im about to finish the game
it's great. If you aren't on Freedom
uh. I meant the suit. but the machine is good also
I think the machine worth it more
What? What does freedom do?
game mode, no eating+drinking. I prefer it
No bro. Eating and drinking is part of survival game
I prefer the normal mode, because the game was made to play this mode
But I see you
You should get the water filtration lol
Have you explored the ice part?
There are some items you can fusion with snow and get big bottles of water
ain't sure if you have explored those ones
Looks more for the end game. So sorry
DM me if you wanna join a subnautica voice chat
Can someone help me find the island with margaret jumpscare
it's delta island. South of the pod. The only island infact
It is
Shut up bro you are so much intelligent
"The only island in fact"
For me are all islands lol
icebergs don't count. And the land west is more of a continent, it's so big
'-'

Nibble? lol
Welp I just pulled a chad moved and just used my prawn suit in the worm area
I prefer to only risk a Snowfox there, too many spots where the Prawn could clip down and be lost
You should see how far you can get launched by the worms though lol
'-'
Felt like the minor version of the air bladder glitch in subnatica
Sometimes I'll take the Snowfox through the 'northwest passage' and bypass them all
In my last play through I skipped the drillable ones, didn't really need them
Oh also this is off topic but is there a way to recharge ion cubes by crafting and un crafting?
yes, the headlamp or teleporter I think
What about just crafting then un crafting batteries?
possibly
In fact prawn suit is very resistent
It takes 4 hits right?
One in 15% and the another one in 16%
Lol
Or ever two in 31% I don't remember
Also is it easier to kill a giant shrimp leviathan with the sea truck or the prawn suit?
But I did remember that both power cells download at same time
not zap. Bump full speed
I don't know
or hey, both
I just zap when they try to attack
yes, there's no need to kill them
Well you get bragging rights
I do feel like they are a lot easier to kill than reapers
They really need to increase their health
I think the reason you can kill them is mostly for building a base in their habitat
Also can you kill the ones in the void?
What is the equivalent to the Reginald in below zero? Like in terms of best food source
Salad
Just talk to the crazy lady
Then go to the ||green house||
void levi's have ulimited respawn, and it will spawn up to 3 to make sure you die
for fish, it's the triops, but spicy salad is super op
Welp there goes that dream, I do miss the utter fear and terror from the first game so at least I am still scared of the void
Hey are there giant silver clusters?
Silver deposits? Yes
Thank you, trying to make the good power cells
there's large o2, 120m down in twisty bridges. And ultra, in lilypads
I was playing on my switch, and it shut off. Not dead, the game crashed. First time. Lost 2 hours of progress
I went to Crystal caves after that and found a funny boi
what can i do with creature eggs
Food :)
no. you can hatch them in contaiment, that you find later
ty
uh. save often, but if the world stops loading do not save. Important
Do this and the Switch version is bearable
Who’s idea was this???
well, if you swim above it, it can't bite you
I just kill them then scan them
I ram them with the sea truck
Still 3 of those shadows to kill
Trucking them to death is more fun
is not scared of anything.
should i make it higher?
Wrong channel, this is below zero, not Subnautica
I would argue just don’t kill them at all
Always seemed a waste of time to me
Kind of up to you really
whats your recommendation tho
You can stack multipurpose rooms you know
yea i know
But one room is fine for just starting out
okok
I have 205 titanium
I just need a lot of lithium to build twelve stories of aquariums
no
Awe
Question, am I the only one who uses beacon color to denote something about the location? For example, for me, red beacons are located in especially difficult or dangerous areas, orange are for easier, but not safe, locations, yellow are vehicles, and blue are habitats/bases.
You are probably not the only one but I do not do that
I just go “eh I’ll be fine with whatever it is”
I use blue for "I'm kind of ignoring this", yellow for bases, red for vehicles, and green for Alan signals
I guess you could call me meticulous, that would be a fair assessment
and orange is basically everything else
Also I hate that there are no lead clusters
for me it's to increase visibility of what's important and decrease visibility of what is not.
"ARGH!!!!" as Peanuts(TM) characters like to say. It's SOO frustrating
If you're well and truly ignoring something, and never plan to use it, why mark it at all?
Also if you don’t store your titanium as titanium bars what is wrong with you
In the case of a couple of markers, they're landmarks for finding other things
In the case of something like Drop Pod, it gets hidden.
And those markers (like the markers for the outposts already there...) are blue so they don't get in the way
I don't store my Titanium as Titanium bars, but then, most of the time, I don't have any Titanium to store, it's soo useful and I'm always running out. I do like to compress my Titanium into Titanium bars to save space in my Seatruck inventory though, it allows me to be able to bring more Titanium back from one trip
Two storage, one sleep, one fabricator, and one docking
Also earlier I had 205 titanium
Right now, I have my Seatruck like this: Seatruck - Fabricator Module - Teleportation Module - Aquarium Module - Sleeper Module - Storage Module - Storage Module - Docking Module - Prawn Suit attached to Docking Module
I have the Teleportation Module between the Fabricator Module and Aquarium so I have ready access to food and water if I have to teleport back after a bad situation, and I also keep the Seatruck's supply of Medikits in the bench seat of the Fabricator Module, so I have ready access to them as well
And it's also close to the front so I have ready access to the controls of the Seatruck, just as another precaution
Darn, I wish all of this were necessary, but this game is so pathetically easy that it's not
the problem is f11 screenshots in subnautica don't save to uncompressed copy folder
Oh I learned that from town of Salem with the crunched photo I sent one time
Seriously if you don't have "save an uncompressed copy" checked pls do this
(You have to select a folder first, then it works)
(this is a general psa, not just a reply)
I hope sometime they make a harder Subnautica sequel where hardcore preparing like this actually pays off
I like flexing my overpreparedness, but Below Zero just doesn't require it
The original subnatica was terrifying
I loved the reapers
i bring the sleeper module for the jukebox
og subnautica was scarier the first time i played it.
And I was so happy for killing one
BING! It's a must
after I learned that ||nothing is actually a threat|| unless you're really dumb...
I set up the sound system in my base and am jamming rn
I set my jukebox up with a few songs from bug fables
Oh also how do you add songs?
I think of almost every single possible way something could go sideways in this game, and prepare for the most improbable bad scenarios, and guess what? All my hard work, WASTED! RIP.
The only time I was ever really in danger in my hc playthrough was free diving running out of O2 cus I wasn't paying attention
Why can't I be a NORMAL player and just rush amazingly unprepared into everything?
And when I decided to chase down the Cheli and shadow levis to get scan data
I bring like...
1 food 2 water
and a couple of tools
i pack the seatruck with extra
2 lockers, 1 food/water 1 extra tools for swapping if necessary
Where from here?
I bring like 200 water, 4 medikits, spare food even though I have the Heat Blade, way too many batteries, and almost all of my tools except for the most very useless ones for where I'm going, like a Seaglide on land
wrong folder
Oops
type %userprofile%\Music into your address bar
And that's just on my person
Unless you store your music somewhere else... nevermind you know what just use the damn music shortcut or library
Only thing I miss? Medical Kit Fabricator
That was so convenient in Subnautica, and they REMOVED it!
my beacon mess in this save
Welp my file structure is a mess rn
Found it!
I'm very sorry, but you are a noob. Git gud! I have over 50 beacons active in my current game, it would make anyone else's eyes bleed from the sheer number of beacons, but it helps me to navigate, being the Captain Sense of (LACK OF) Direction that I am.
Hmm so would going from YouTube to an mp3 converter work?
excuse me, but you need to git gud and memorize the map like the universebrain that I am, jeez.
probably.
Welp we are gonna find out
MP3 files are valid
nevermind the fact that I blew up my sleeper module a while ago
To be fair, this started in Subnautica. YOU try determining one Grassy Plain from another without using a map! They all look the same, just like some of the Kelp Forests! It's SOO easy to think you're going back to the one where you found the thing that you wanted to come back to, but instead, you went the wrong direction thanks to lack of landmarks and ended up in a different one instead.
I blew up my aquarium module once
was joking.
my trivalve escaped
Can we all agree that they need to at least double the health of all large creatures in bz?
Also their AI…is not the best at times
The crash fish especially
Nah, Cryptosuchus having a Suchus-y HP pool is kind of hilarious
all roar, and not a lot of bite, and it can NOT take many hits in return
I can kill one of the shadows in under 5 minutes
Those things are like flies to me
Also I wish they respawned
the extra tools i carry around
They did respawn once in an old save when the game was fully released
they only reset when the block cache is invalidated
which means delete it or major update.
Are there any bad side effects?
pdas reset
Speaking of the Shadows, sometimes they will behave well and collide with terrain instead of going into it. SOMETIMES. However, Chelicerates are VERY naughty and love to clip into and through terrain, so you never really know where they are, because they could be lurking in the terrain
basically everything you've done in the world resets except for the bases you've built.
infinite resources?
When my world was reset in one save I was able to get 8 floors of Cryptosuchus aquariums and over 100k max power
My game lagged
And there were 8 different buildings of the aquariums
Block Cache, so that's the folder that keeps track of what's happened/ing in any given area on the map and saves it?
This is my typical loadout.
The game is divided into batches and chunks, and it caches all of the changes you made in every batch in the game
Everything else is in the Seatruck if I need it
Like, I swap for the prop. cannon when on land cus I don't need the seaglide
By the way: Me: <is close to a terrain surface> Chelicerate that was lurking in the terrain: "Surprise, <censored>!" Me: "YIKES! What were you doing in there, silly Leviathan? You were supposed to COLLIDE with the terrain, not CLIP THROUGH AND INTO IT!"
To be fair the original subnatica did that
One of my most memorable moments was a reaper in front of me disappearing into the ground and me just going in the other direction
I’ll be honest I never did hardcore in the original game
I do it quite a lot in this one though
SN did that with hilarity usually
I'd see a reaper clip out of the terrain spinning and flying off into the distance.
Also this world is so small ngl
it is more detailed tho
Feels about the same in most areas
Except on land
Which is like 10% of the game
I do feel like there are less bugs though
But we go a lot less deeper
Which I dislike
Barely any life down there too
It’s either really small or really big
Crystal caves feels insubstantial yeah
there's a big spooky monster that's driven off before dealing any damage with the perimeter defence you get literally for free.
Yeah perimeter defense is op
I would love decoy missiles instead
Also I wish they added a third vehicle too
We got the bulky, the storage, we need something with explore with
coughsnowfoxcough
Speaking of Leviathans and collision issues, the last few patches of Below Zero really seem to have affected Subnautica quite significantly. Before, Leviathans MOSTLY stuck to the water, and didn’t clip into terrain. Now, they constantly clip in to terrain, and regularly break previously programmed patrol patterns to go after the player in ways they never would before
i never actually noticed
Ok but I literally forgot about it and that shows how useless it is
exactly
I just use my prawn suit and the grappling arm
the prawn is faster, more durable, and doesn't kick you out every time an ice worm breaks wind
My opinion of Snowfox:
the speed cap of the prawn is 20m/s
🤮
you can get that with strafe walking
I HATE the Snowfox
Also the prawn can fly pretty easily due to ice worms
ice worms never knocked me into the air
I flew up over 2k meters earlier
I couldn't even be caught just strafe jumping
And landed nearly where I was
heh, if you look more to the southwest in arctic spires, you might see where they put all the triggers for the ice worms
The ice worms are not scary ngl
Actually nothing is
Expect when the shadows or big shrimps decide to go to the backrooms then come back out
but legit, jump, hold w+a/d, and watch the prawn FLY
Well the void is still terrifying
Thing about the Snowfox is riding a flying snow mobile/motorcycle hybrid across arctic terrain just is a derpy picture. Why couldn’t the new vehicle have been an ENCLOSED one? I mean, come ON, it IS ARCTIC terrain after all.
What’s worse is their original idea, the hovercraft, WAS
And they REJECTED it! For a stupid SNOW MOTORBIKE
Oh a water skidder vehicle sounds fun
No, it was still just a land vehicle. But it was ENCLOSED! And it would probably have handled more INTUITIVELY!
The snow fox is like drifting a car from the 70’s ngl
Have you seen the speed runs of bz, people get creative
I mean, it is literally SR20 (oldschool doom joke dont mind me)
I wish I was old enough to understand that
doom had a quirk in movement where if you strafed and ran forward your movement was increased by the sqrt of the combined
Mech on arctic terrain > futuristic open-topped motorcycle on arctic terrain. Yeah, the mech’s heavier. So what? A motorcycle, even a HOVER one, looks WAY out of place on arctic terrain!
it was called SR40 because "strafe run 40 units per second"
It doesn’t at ALL convey “snowmobile”
and SR50 is when you do it against specific walls that for some reason make you move even faster
Sounds real interesting
Kinda like portal
I’m adding so much music rn
Any suggestions?
idk your taste in music
Rock, dubstep, also songs like “hello world” specifically
Either real soft or real hard
I like songs from games that were special to me
Oh what games?
Tastes in music are like opinions: everyone has one, but they tend to vary wildly from person to person.
Never heard of it, I gotta check that game out if it has good music
VVVVVV is another one. Magnus Palsson’s soundtrack to it you will NEVER get out of your head! It’s MUCH too good.
Ooooo puzzle game
yee
Some of the later ones VERY dynamic ones too
My least favorite is the Tower, I can’t think fast enough
CrossCode is one of those darling indie gems that no one played.
And it's really a shame, because Lea is best girl
VVVVVV is from 2010

Sounds so cool ngl
Hmm what games have good music, oh probably the Binding of isaac
Either you play it?
Basically anything danny baranowsky composed is amazing
super meat boy
uhh, i think he has a few others
But back on topic. The kind of thing I mean when I say that Subnautica’s Leviathans in particular are behaving in ways they never have before requires an example. Here’s one: a Reaper attacking a TOTALLY SHUT DOWN, SILENT, LIGHTS-OFF Cyclops QUITE A DISTANCE FROM IT!
And I never noticed that before some of the later BZ patches
That kind of thing just didn’t happen
Hm, maybe an AI oops
AI goes brrrrrr
Because they do know when you're actually piloting the ship and won't attack it when you aren't in the driver's seat.
Which is kinda stupid ngl
nah. i think its fair
Reaper: “And who are YOU to tell me that I can’t/won’t? NYAH!”
if i'm not driving the ship and just bumming around doing something then it's not really fair that it can destroy my ship without me having any input
Fair
and that does make shadow levis more dangerous because they ignore that for the prawn
Here’s the scary part. THAT’S EXACTLY what happened!
iirc reapers have a taste for seamoths
they will still attack it sitting idle doing nothing
I feel like someone should dissect their AI
Well, it didn’t destroy it, I got to the bridge in time, but it took a lot of damage before I got over to the bridge
I wasn’t at the helm either when the Reaper attacked, I was in the upper deck main room
Huh
i can't confirm but in my experience they won't cancel a pending attack, but that's not really relevant to you I don't think
No, the Reaper didn’t even immediately follow me back to the Cyclops
I gave it a Decoy which it happily played with while I left the area
I checked to make sure it wasn’t following me as I left the vicinity, it wasn’t.
It made the entire trip to the Cyclops unaggroed
And then attacked, unaggroed as well
I could tell it was not aggroed either, as it was relatively quiet. If it were aggroed, I would have heard it coming. Reapers are very very noisy, even more than the other two
true
all the big ones in bz have an 'i am attacking' noise, and an 'i am chasing you' noise
All 3 and 1/2, yes
Hey aren’t squid sharks leviathans?
no
Yes. But they do not have Leviathan damage stats. However, they DO have Leviathan HP
Squid Sharks and Chelicerate have the exact same HP pool of 5,000
aren't they in the carnivores section not leviathans
Incorrect.
Regular Leviathans with Leviathan stats all around: Chelicerate (1), Void Cheli, (1 & 1/2) Shadow Leviathan, (2 & 1/2) and Ice Worm Leviathan (3 & 1/2)
Squidshark aren’t leviathans. I think that pda entry will be changed (probably with the 2.0 update) there’s several things in pda that aren’t correct (like some stuff under “exploitables” aren’t usable, idk maybe they once were but aren’t now)
Also lots of mentions about the stasis rifle
Wait, really? But they have Chelicerate HP? Is it because they don’t have hostile Leviathan damage stats even though they are right now currently classified as small hostile Leviathans?
The snowfox isn’t that bad. People have different preferences and it’s fine if they don’t want to use it. I get it’s drifty, but it can keep you warm, and I just think some things about BZ people complain just for sake of complaining
Idk the details, I just know they’re not considered leviathans
I don't hate the snowfox
I don’t hate it but do not like it
And I feel like that won't change in 2.0
It’s meh like a 6/10
Yeah, I don’t see the snowfox changing for 2.0
nor the fact that squidsharks aren't really considered leviathans
I do hope the terrain glitches get fixed with the big shrimps
Also much more hp on them and more aggression
i wonder if they will fix where their voxel terrian got messed up and left tiny spikes in the world
Oh also how some of the ores in the world you literally can’t reach
The issue with leviathans clipping is not a “bug” in the sense of it’s not anticipated. It has to happen because of the way the engine or something operates and because of their size. Only their head has the hitbox registration, I’ve seen it explained before so yeah, it’s not ideal but there’s not a lot can be done about it
Me neither. I’ve built it before in pre-release builds, but with no storage of its own, increased vulnerability to Ice Worms, difficult handling, and the requirement for special infrastructure, I just find the Snowfox to be very superfluous.
Well, it is more expensive now, and you have to remember where you put it!
Some recipes in Below Zero are too cheap imo.
There’s magnetite under the large room at Phi
there is enough magnetite on that island to build like 50 snowfoxes
I dislike titanium bars being 5 titanium now instead of the usual… was it 12?
10
Close enough
I just put the snowfox pad near the bridge, easy to find (I put a beacon near the bridge too)
I like it, its more convenient
Well... there really isn't a good source of Titanium anymore.
Fair
10 titanium is kinda ridiculous, and I think the moon pool still uses 10 to construct.
Actually scratch that.
I can’t believe anyone would complain about a reduction in titanium for ingots😅
Maybe in 2.0 we can get Large Lead Outcrops?
You get Titanium in almost every biome.
Yes please!
Please? We NEED them!
That's what I'm saying.
titanium, quarz, and copper can be found everywhere
enough so you can make a basic base anywhere on the map more or less
Also I’d say up the amount of shadows to 6 instead of 4
They do make you work for the lead. Which I’ve never really understood why they didn’t put at least a FEW lead deposits on the map😔
Foundation Pads and Nuclear technology is SUCH a pain in BZ because of the lack of Large Lead Outcrops
Like... Large Lead Deposits would go so well in the Mining Site.
Doubt.
nuclear is literally free i have no idea what you're talking about
What do you doubt, Ignis?
you get 6 reactor rods for free dotted around the mercury 2 parts
Master Ignis! You’re back!
That the entry will change.
Oh yeah, agreed.
I don’t think you need more shadows in the caverns
As far as someone was talking about making the game feel more achievement-worthy for playing in hardcore etc, people tend to forget the main audience for this game is casual.
They pick it up, they play it, and they are done with it. And most aren’t into playing Subnautica and BZ for a horror experience or hardcore survival aspect either
Clearly the entry was written like that for a reason
Once the devs put something in or write a line of text in, it rarely ever gets removed.
What amount a new mode that could be played that would increase the difficulty drastically?
And I mean like questionable things.
I believe there were plans for them to change at some point, but I do agree with you it’s unlikely now
A while ago Cory said this.
Yeah, I agree. Personally, I’d like to see a little harder Subnautica sequel as not necessarily Subnautica 2, but a spin-off.
Silly Cory.
custom sn difficulty will be interesting
I was talking about pda changes in general, probably won’t see them even for the things that aren’t entirely accurate
unless it is glaringly wrong, there's no real reason to change it
I have 111 unread entries in my pda databank in my completed hardcore save
A lot of people don’t even read the story related stuff that would be considered “important” or relevant lol
And I've read at least 100 more
Reminds me of the person who refused to go on the Aurora and never realized Subnautica actually had an ending.
Lol
Yeah... it's a shame that the game never released into 1.0.
True story, I don’t remember where I read it, but that happened to someone out there, they were too scared to ever go on the Aurora and never found the ending.
Oh also how much does each sea truck hit do?
Yes.
That's the most accurate answer we have.
not enough to kill an eye jelly
Cuz that needs to be turned way the crap down
Base x SPEED
it kills prey fish that's it
It depends on your velocity, but it uses the mass of the Seatruck so it deals a lot.
yet boosting i still can't kill an eye jelly by ramming it with four modules
Er, no. It kills Cryptosuchi in 2 good rams
You should, I don't think the eye jelly has more than 200 health does it?
eye jelly dies in 5 knife hits
I just run into the jellies a few times, it works, sometimes I have to repair the truck between hits
Are you sure that’s not the baby Eye Jelly that has 200?
There’s so many around the dock near Phi
did the devs make them super loud just to bother us?
I think the Adult Eye Jelly has more
which also explains why there's like 70000 of them
The standard knife deals about 20 dps iirc.
How much does the Heated one do?
I think 40.
And somehow the Noot Fish is able to survive a single slash from the thermoblade.
it takes me like 3 to kill a nootfish at least
Ok but these things are way too easy to kill
Why would you bother tho
Nootfish has a damage reduction from all sources. It takes 5 Thermoblade hits to cook a Nootfish.
Tbh I want to make a giant area of just Cryptosuchus
It just has 100 health.
It’s too OP really
Just use the Western Iceberg Zone.
It's pretty empty over there.
These area is pretty contained though
I mean the section that's closest to the World Edge.
To be honest, I think a weapon-containing Subnautica would have the potential to be harder and more scary, because then you could really let the creatures off their leashes and let them them have all sorts of interesting and dangerous behaviors by default, like stalking you for nautical miles
Literally nothing back there besides possibly-edible rocks.
The custom game options will let you adjust aggression I think? But idk if you can make them more aggressive than they already are
Meh true but I already killed two of the shadows
The devs are not into making the game about violence I do know that
having the monsters being killable at all is kind of an extravagance
Right now what’s holding Subnautica back is the creatures are leashed a bit, as because of the focus on non-violence, being able to work around their presence is critical, but because being able to work around their presence is a thing, it makes the game both less hard and less scary
I want more horror and more survival ngl, better stuff, but at the cost of much more dangerous stuff
Indeed. I want these pit bulls off their chains
i'd say a cheli taking off 75 hp with a single bite and isntakilling you if you're below 77 is pretty dangerous
Personally, I think Leviathans should be invulnerable. Making the player have to go in with brains instead of brawns.
That’s not what most players want tho
True, but there’s the defense module, which is broken and stupid, and they’re not nearly aggressive enough
The default is 1, you can go up to 10.
Now that sounds fun
I think leviathans should be invulnerable as well
Does it increase their Aggro range?
I don't think the game would benefit from a more violent focus
I do not think the leviathans should be invulnerable, just a stupidly high amount of hp
Agreed.
That way the true gamers could still kill one but it would truly be a challenge
The devs decided they didn’t want their games to focus on violence, following the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary
Probably not.
What about the decrease timer in which it will try to attack again?
But think about it, the only way to make the game more scary, paradoxically, is by making peace impossible, so you HAVE to fight your way through the monsters instead of cowardly evading them, but like a good horror game, the weapons should be on the inadequate/inefficient side of things so the combat is really hard and scary.
What I truly feel is lacking for the “horror below the sea” vibe is darkness
Hotel???
Actually never mind about auto correct
I feel as though the caverns are too bright
I think using stealth and tactics is very gamer-worthy
as long as it's not skyrim's stupid...
That's pretty much the whole point of the aggression multiplier. I have a video for a bug report let me grab it.
No one forces you to use perimeter defense
dominant strategy of sneak archer
Everyone knows that. They wanted to send a message, as everyone does these days about something. Trouble is, I think they kind of let their message get in the way of a better game
Now that’s awesome
Also what’s up with the crash fish AI being a bit less than smart, like they run into walls and such
Everyone, do tell me, what’s scarier? Quietly avoiding your fear, or facing it down directly with less than adequate means of dealing with it?
A lot slower too
I remember a dumb thing i did in below zero, I had the rebreather but 75 oxygen and went down to the crystal caves and then I got jumped by a shadow leviathan but I got 1 kyanite so I see this as an absolute win
Yeah it really depends ngl
BZ was made with a lot of Subnautica feedback in mind. So my bet is on people wanting the game to feel less horror-esque (and while I don’t know about the feedback specifically, going off tons of chat experience, I would also say players probably wanted the game to be a bit easier to follow)
True, but if you never encounter your fear, kinda takes the bite out of it, doesn’t it?
Everyone is different
I don’t really buy into the whole “I gotta face my fear and kill a leviathan” thing
i should start playing bz again soon
It wouldn’t do anything for me, it would be a waste of time
I feel like that running away is a lot scarier because you tend to be thinking “oh my god please don’t kill me”
I have scanned them
killing leviathans is just kinda boring for me
When people show off pictures of dead leviathans it’s pretty cringe ngl
I honestly just play with if I was playing with a pet and whenever the chelicerate grabs my truck I just shock and go back to playing around with it
I only do it when I'm bored
did it once, didnt get much thrill out of it
it was just like yeah sure i did kill it
At the very least, putting less-than-efficient weapons into the game would allow for much more aggressive and interesting Leviathans, with improved and diverse both both visually and mechanically attacks
You know when reading that I understand that now thinking about it and I apologize for doing that
Imagine an Leviathan of some type encapsulating a Cyclops or Cyclops-like sub!
People really do have a thing for posting dead reaper and ghost pics smh
Or giving chase for INCREDIBLE distances
I do feel like there is much more of a reward killing a reaper because it’s just….so much scarier
yay i killed a leviathan now what
Like half the map kind of distances
Yeah but using a stasis rifle is like cheating
Even rodeo & drill isn’t fair
i think the last time i had fun with killing leviathans was like, a year ago
I mean I agree with the stasis rifle but that thing turned it’s head so much when I was trying to kill it and I was terrified
Eww... the Stasis Rifle.
only time i really use the stasis rifle for things is to scan them
Ngl that’s how I scanned a ghost
Heading the name of that item makes me want to vomit my dinner up.
yeah
For the most part, I don’t really mind what people are doing in their games. I just don’t like to see people try to convince others to do the same because I think everyone should make up their own mind without being influenced to do the same stuff, and unfortunately people do get influenced by others to go kill
As I’ve been saying, no weapons in the game means the Leviathans have had to be kept to a manageable level, with manageable all aggression, behavior, and attacks
I feel like you need some weapons at least
- Too op.
- Aiming it is weird unless the targeted creatures are moving in a straight line.
Lol
If there were even weak regular weapon types, they really could go bonkers with the Leviathans
most of the time i just try to avoid the dangerous things
doesnt matter the vehicle, i aint getting near them
And make them far more crazy than they could ever currently be allowed to be
And having to get out of your vehicle every time is just annoying.
I have given the chelicerate a name!
Oh what is it?
Gertrude
In both games, the leviathans are easily avoided until late game (with the exception of your first play, when you don’t know where they are)
Sounds perfect
That's a cute name.
yep!
there is more than one cheli
I shall name one Shelly.
Tbh my first playthrough of subnautica I was literally terrified, but bz it was mostly bright open water and I could see them from the distance quite easily
Or Shellby.
I don’t know, they just don’t do it for me. Something that actual weapons would allow is not confining them to specific sections of specific biomes and allow them to regularly wander biomes, even ones that might usually be very safe.
id say the biggest annoyance is ampeels
what if they wandered to close to spawn when early into the game?
Below zero soundtrack or Subnautica soundtrack
Ampeels before the nerf: <Terminator theme> Ampeels AFTER the nerf: “On top of old SPARK-Y, all covered with WATER!”
only annoying for when chilling with cyclops
Subnautica. Ben did a good job with BZ’s, but it still lacks a truly iconic track, unlike Subnautica, which has Into The Unknown.
Into The Unknown is amazing
abandon ship as well
Everybody gangsta til leviathan starts playing
BZ really doesn't have a main... theme.
I like BZ soundtrack but I don’t like how there’s so little variation in the biomes, how it’ll be just a couple of tracks that repeat over and over and it drives me crazy
Subnautica has many great tunes
Speaking of BZ’s soundtrack, the history of one particular track makes me very angry
Fair but when I'm in my base vibing arctic peeper is a bop
Cathedral
bz soundtrack: do
subnautica soundtrack: do do do do odo oodo odo odod
Rite of the Deep is still my favorite song in the OST.
Cathedral USED to play in the 2 larger sections of Mercury II
And Tree Spires had something else
If subnautica had a jukebox like BZ I would of been less scared
I wish the soundtrack to BZ included the jukebox tracks
That’s why the opening of Cathedral has the weird creepy ghost sounds and creaks that it does
Or maybe as a soundtrack+ option
But it got moved somewhere down the line to be the theme to the Tree Spires
So now the Mercury II has no special music and the Tree Spires has a wholly inappropriate track that wasn’t made for it and sticks out like a sore thumb
Subnautica Stimulus is my favorite jukebox track
Because no part of Mercury II is even IN the Tree Spires, or quite close enough to trigger that track
My favourite jukebox track is MECHA BEE DESTROYER BLASTLORD
yes the title of the song is all caps
Sh4dow, why WAS Cathedral moved out of Mercury II? Do you know?
I didn’t have early access, so no idea
Do you know anyone who you could ask who would know?
If so, could you ask them for me some time?
The people I speak with in playtesting aren’t likely to know, they deal with bugfixes, you know QA things, they probably won’t know why audio tracks were rearranged. Sorry😔
I’ll try to remember to ask, but I don’t imagine they’ll know
Maybe because it might've been a placeholder track.
Placeholder for what though? The soundscape of Mercury II is almost dead-empty now, the outside biome’s music doesn’t generally play inside, there’s no more dedicated track for the inside, and there’s very little sound effects inside too.
Believe me, I have gripes about the audio too, like how I make a base in upper lilypads and like many other places, the same 2 tracks just play on repeat and it drives me INSANE, there’s all this music in BZ but it’s all dedicated to specific moments for the game so the rest of the experience just feels kinda dull😔
Not because the music is bad, the variety is bad
I just think if you’re not playing story events, the tracks aren’t “mixed well” for player experience
Maybe they figured you’d use the jukebox a lot, idk 
I don’t use the jukebox a lot, because tbh the acoustics suck in bases
Oh, and there’s another relatively empty soundscape in the game as well. The Tree Spires route to Marge’s base, under the Tree Spires biome itself, has no dedicated music assigned to it and the aforementioned Cathedral, stolen from Mercury II to play in the Tree Spires, doesn’t play down there.
Yeah... all lighting on exterior base pieces do that after loading a save.
I always wondered why they did that
this has probably been asked many times but are the devs planning to add any major updates or only minor updates from now on?
everything can happen on an alien planet
It's a bug.
Speaking of bases, I hate making bases in Vent Regions
Vents have infinitely tall collision, so no matter how high above a vent your base is, when the vent goes off, it will ding your base and cause flooding.
bruh i need to look for sea monkey nests to find propulsion cannon fragments
I’m trying to build a base near the Deep Purple Vents entrance to the Crystal Caves, and I’m running across a big problem with the Supermassive Vent, no matter how high above it I build a base piece, when the SV goes off, it automatically dings my base piece and causes instant flooding.
One major is 2.0.
You can read the blog posted in #announcements about the coming 2.0 updates for BZ and Subnautica
Oh yeah
Forgot that was coming
Ignis, why does the height above the SV not matter when it comes to the SV Supermassive (Purple) Vent damaging a base piece?
If anyone would know about the change of placement for the track Cathedral, it might be Ignis since he knows more than any of us around here
But idk if he knows why it was changed
I don't indeed. I don't even know what this track is. ^.^
I'll test.
That’s what I said, I don’t know anyone that likely would know about audio changes
Not music placements I mean
Not even Ben probably knows, he was just contracted to write it!
It was none of his business where it went
guys i wanted to find 1 more fragment for propulsion cannon but i found an ||obelisk, 2 ion cubes|| and almost all the fragments for the ultra high capacity tank
ok found the last fragment for propulsion cannon
almost everyone
Gn everyone it’s way past my bedtime lol
Bye-Bye Shadow! Sleep well!
My record is 150. However I never took a screenshot of it. Only when I reached 100 modules.
l o n g
It's mostly made of storage modules and teleportation modules.
guys
i just found out a thing
if you create a thermoblade with an empty battery and use the recylcotron on it, the battery will be full
Yeah... I typically don't play with exploits tho.
POV you have the prawn arm but not the hand held one
Yeah I have to keep a jump jet upgrade on at all times while on any of the islands
Wait there is more than 1
That explains a lot
Yeah, there's 4 in total.
Do they respawn
No.
To the wiki
Also boo... both as a ghost thing and as a sign of disappointment.
5k HP
Oh gosh
It would take 208 seconds of drill
The wiki doesn’t list damage of the gas torpedo
Going to the crystal caverns, just packing some backup power, just a little.
I do plan to do a lot of stuff there
what she be watching
you dont have the ||ion stuff||?
i do, but i don't have the resources to craft them yet
do you not have ||ion cubes|| or lithium
What's the maximum number of compartments the seatruck can have?
idk check the wiki
Are torpedoes worth anything in the crystal caves?
nope
What you want is the truck perimeter defense, fired right at the start of an attack
Gotcha. I've been using the prawn suit and haven't gotten anywhere other than just repairing all the time
Took me hours to get to where I needed for the docking module
I build a base by the foot of it, going for a more deep reef playthrough now that I've got all the depth modules. Stocked up on essentials like lubricant and table coral, only big issue is the journey up whenever I want a new module
Hi
are the teleportation module so to travel through the truck faster
It might be for convenience with the module's ingredients since I remember he gathered the resources and didn't cheat them.
But there is no cycle when you use the teleportation tool.
You'll be warped in the first you built, if it is powered.
Which makes having multiple teleportation modules totally useless in creative.
guys i came back succesfully from the ||bow of mercury 2|| and got everything i wanted
plus some titanium
hhey guys, is there a way to deconstruct storage boxes? i have made a bunch of them at the start of the game but i don't require it now.
anyways to get the materials or should i discard them to the thrash?
2nd half of the game you get the recyclotron. But it's not worth waiting for 4 titanium. Leave them floating
ok.. right now i have made a starter base of water filteration, some planter beds (internal + external), got the vehicle upgrade station, explored the aurora. in process to scan cyclops and prawn suit, i got a kind of vision from some being, found an entrance which needs orange tablet... not sure what to do next..
the game is wonderful but now it is getting bit lost.. what to do next..i visited the 2 islands as well..
wrong game, there's no recyclotron in subnautica
Has Subnautica 3 been confirmed?
I'm getting very close to beating the game. I just need to find the arctic spires body component and to find the fabricator caverns
i can help you with the ||fabricator caverns||
Hey guys what's up
Hello
while in the ||crystal caverns|| go around east and NE
and remember to bring all the materials required for the ||body||
I know
Have you built your bases?
i once made a fail and isntead of bringing the ribbon plants i had gel sacks
dont ask me how
and also
I have a video of my base on my YouTube, you can take some ideias lol :)
Its in my profile
Sorry
why you deleted it
As many as 4 hauling modules will take you
They've expressed interest but the team is currently working on improving the first two
Ok
I deleted it because it was spoilers, you answered your own question before you had it
bruh there is something called spoiler
||this is spoiler tag||
Yesn’t they plan on doing it at some point but it hasn’t started development
I spent 70 percent of my prawn battery on trying to kill a shadow leviathan
on normal power cells?
Yes
why you ont make the ||ion power cells||
|| on start and onend
Ok thanks
||spoiler|| (to type it like that its \|\|spoiler\|\|)
Hi all! Sorry for intruding, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask. But does anyone here happen to run Below Zero via the Epic launcher? I bought it on Epic in a sale three years ago, and yes, I realize that was a mistake, don't hate on me 😓 Now that it's out of Early Access and I want to play it, I keep getting the message "Launch failed. Could not launch Subnautica Below Zero. Please verify the installation". I verified it two times already and nothing changed ...
The Epic FAQ says "If you still see this error after you've verified your game files, it is likely that you're trying to play a version of the game that is no longer available, such as a press, beta, or alpha version. " So I'm wondering has anyone else heard of this? Is the version on Epic still supported and up to date?
yes... the Epic version is good
Can we make it cannon that snowfoxes are raced on other planets(not 34b)
I'd uninstall and reinstall. Delete save folder if you want to make sure. Here:
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica Below Zero\SubnauticaBelowZero\SavedGames
Why not on 34b
Because it’s a research site not a HQ/employee housing
It’s like the Arctic research stations
People live there but not a lot of recreation
A bit too cold in arctic/Antarctic for any sort of outside recreation
Yeah I have had invisible lithium in the past
I've had lithium spawn inside the terrian.
aaaand that lithium is probably not in that argentite outcrop it's somewhere else
I did find the solution online after all. Apparently this error is caused by Below Zero trying to be run with administrator privileges while my Epic installation did not have them. After I unchecked the box in the properties of the game's executable, it worked fine (alternatively I guess I could also have run the Epic launcher as administrator, but this was easier for now). Thanks for your reply though, much appreciated! 🙂
How do I navigate the || arctic spires for the body component? ||
bruh like 80%of the "lithium" my scanner room found is not existing
cool
follow the instructions ||ALAN|| gave you
||(head northeast)||
And follow the green lights
northeast. Near the bridge, go the east route into the tunnel. Then just NE. Any alien cabling, follow their north ends
The weather's pretty bad there, but there's a mountain at the back you might be able to see weather permitting
I realized that Chelicerate Leviathans don't do any damage to Seatruck when you have perimeter defense system
Leviathans are just a minor inconvenience now I can't believe I thought they were a threat inside a vehicle
(They were never a threat inside a vehicle lmao.)
I found one of the body components on accident
in my first playthrough, I found outpost zero right away
I'm still trying to find ||omega lab at Lilly pad islands||.
it's ||inside the big rock covering deep lilypads||
Im questioning the logic
it's inside the wall. it happens
for my luck it happens 80% of the time
How easy I would beat Below Zero creatures in a fight
"who are you" they are the fish you run over in the seatruck.
(left to right: hivemind (this is a plant lmao), symbiote, rockgrub, baby sea monkey, triops)
Ah yes a plant
I feel like I'm somewhere I shouldn't be.
how you got to the ice worm testing
oh
Loooooool I got there too
Nice.
You can only get there with shrimp suit
Yeah, the jumps that suit can pull off are ridiculous.
guys i got a new bait for the leviathans
And this is my first playthrough, too.
I don't why my first instinct in every game I play is just to break it immediately, but it's hilarious.
How do I report a bug? I just got out of my seatruck sideways and now I'm walking in water
okay but why
yes
those poor little penglings
they will respawn
should i put them in an alien containment
yes
uh
i didnt even click it but im getting my cross and holy bible
yeah but what's it play?
if it's more of that crap I ain't clicking it
is it a bait and switch?
then im not gonna click it
no it's 12 pm and im not mentally prepared for anything right now
I just woke up
then what the hell is it
tell me first
rick roll would be better than the picture
What does this have to do with subnatica
yknow that is a really good question
I beat BZ and it was worth the many hours
@elder oyster wb
Using baby penglings as test subjects
oh
welp this is pain
You thought that was kyanite I am guessing
Nope, I can only drill half of it
How
half of the deposit is glitched under the textures, that means he will get half of the quartz
I mean how did he do that?
game's fault
It looks good
i know the pain because i wanted to get more lithium but like 80% of it was glitched in the textures
Hi
Hi
Hi
Subnautica below zero was a good game
you can go to the #role-assignment and select your pronounce and what you play on
it will be usefull for people to know it
So I've been walking around on top of the ice, and it's kinda spooky just how empty it is out there.
That's cool how do you get up there
prawn + jet upgrade
Oooooo
There are lot of spooky noises up there.
time to get the ||parallel processing unitfrom the stern||
Wind, vague creature sounds in the distance, etc.
Glacial iceberg is so much easier to get around in than EA
from the ||stern or the other small one cause i've been to the bpw||
I bet it is the iceworm
oh no wind is scary
Ooooooo
well im ngl but the wind is sometimes scary
I don't think it can.
Me to
Funnily enough, there's a developer's Ice Worm testing area on top of the ice, nearby the hydraulic bridge thing.
Wait what no way
time to get the ||test override module and disable the satelite||
Ooooo is that the place on the glacier in the videos
Do you remember me? Low Fps and always lags. Still I can't fix it and in kelp Forrest there are pink snakes coming idk why and my FPS are lower than 35 now
uhhh what
Oooo no
Pink snakes
Pink snakes are not supposed to be in the kelp forest
I can believe you on the pink snakes are just not supposed in the kelp forest
Subanutica is broken and unplayable
this is subnautica below zero chat-
I have low Fps in every world when in better games I have over 80fps on max setti fs
Nah didn't see it
But
I have problem in both subnsuticas
this is chat about bz not normal sub
I know tom tom
could have been just tom
tom tom
Hey I remember I have to ask you something about subnautica below zero
I will be back
Do you too have that when you open your inventory (PDA) or storage container then you get a FPS drop?
Tomm
what
Yes?
do i have what
This question
Yes
What counts as spoilers?
why did a copper wire fall though the floor/celling in the ||stern of mecury||
So yes or no
something deep or not seen for fresh players
bruh im trying to play bz
Yes or no pleaseee
Does that include ||Marguerit's Greenhouse?|| (Marking it as spoilers, just in case.)
I asked you a question remember please say if you too have it
ye everything about ||marguerit||
Bruh why didn't you answer the question
im trying to play bz on my ps4
I'm asking becaue when I open my inventory PDA I have a 1 or 2 second fram drop from 55 FPS which is unplayable to 30fps
That's a tragedy
sometimes i have it, sometimes i dont have it
oh and also im playing bz on a ps4 so idk about the fram drop cause on pc i only play sub
Thank youuuu❤️
I'm not here only one with this problem
what
i said idk about it
alr time to go to the satelite tower
k
so uh anyone know if theres gonna be another subnautica game/ a second part to bz?
alr ||the satelite's down||
i jsut finished the game thats why im wondering
now ||time to go to the marguerit's greenhouse||
wtf is this emoji

