#below-zero-chat

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fluid flame
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I was like: "I don't think I should be up here but i wonder what happens if I keep walking" and suddenly found myself falling off a cliff into water

real wadi
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oxygen 😔

fluid flame
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bruh im under the map now

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Is it possible for me to obtain silcone rubber while in the glacial basin

real wadi
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do i get air flavours?

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like melon?

fluid flame
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no that's a vape 💀

real wadi
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do i get a vape inhalers of air or what? can i pollute?

fluid flame
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I'm afraid not in this game

carmine bobcat
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you can pet snow stalkers

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how

steel shoal
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Just interact

carmine bobcat
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they kill me

steel shoal
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Oh, you can only pet the bebes

carmine bobcat
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ohh

steel shoal
carmine bobcat
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okay thank you

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can you grow a sea monkey and have it stay near u?

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cuz sea monkeys r so cute

eternal garnet
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yes... it will stay near where released. Won't follow

carmine bobcat
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okay good the eggs r easy to find

eternal garnet
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and the babies are the cutest thing in the universe

carmine bobcat
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sea monkeys 🔛🔝

eternal garnet
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yes. You do need the alien containment. The big tank

tough ingot
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how do i do the override thing on the satellite dish

carmine bobcat
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like i had to look it up when i played subnautica

eternal garnet
left marsh
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I wiah you could kidnap baby snow stalkera

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So adorable man

bitter geode
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yo

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how i mark an image as a spoilrr

eternal garnet
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on pc, click the eye before posting

bitter geode
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im on mobile

eternal garnet
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rename image SPOILER_xxxx.jpg

bitter geode
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oh nah that’s too much work im js not gonna send it

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can i dm it to you to show off my accomplishments

eternal garnet
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yes

bitter geode
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i js needs show somebody

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ty

eternal garnet
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rizzv2 posted this

bitter geode
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yessir

left marsh
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Pretty cool photos

cobalt vector
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I managed to progress

fluid flame
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took me like 20 minutes to find him

eternal garnet
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there's 2

fluid flame
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ik there's 2

cobalt vector
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IMO ||trivalve|| is better than ||cuddlefish||

eternal garnet
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the rarest two eggs ingame

cobalt vector
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I have 3 creature eggs

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I got my first submarine

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I got a better o2 tank

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||and now the sea monkeys give me things||

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||AL-AN is in my brain now||

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||I got some ion cubes||

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I'm looking for ||artifact q59||

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so what do you guys think of my progress

fluid flame
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uh oh the other egg is not there

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i checked the exact cordinates but i dont see it

eternal garnet
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it's like 5m away

fluid flame
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I think it's supposed to be here?

eternal garnet
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looks like it

fluid flame
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except that it is not here

eternal garnet
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I apologize for stealing it

plain nebula
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Are "ALL" the aprallel processing units on the shipwreck?

fluid flame
plain nebula
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well i just found 2 on one

fluid flame
plain nebula
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i am looking and i still cant find the last one

fluid flame
eternal garnet
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there's 1, 2 and 3 on each wreck respectively. Wreck map

plain nebula
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oh ok

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im on thhruster one

eternal garnet
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the Bow is what you want

plain nebula
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ye ok

fluid flame
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I am so confused right now how did one of the trivalve eggs just disappear

cobalt vector
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hot take: It's easy to scan chelicerates

plain nebula
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just drowned rnyes

fluid flame
cobalt vector
plain nebula
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can i find magnetite here?

eternal garnet
plain nebula
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ok thanks

fluid flame
eternal garnet
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usually shines white. And nickel, a gray little potato

eternal garnet
plain nebula
fluid flame
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dont have the beacon to this day and I've scanned way more than 2 artifacts

plain nebula
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u went that deep looking for her baseAUGHHHH

cobalt vector
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I accidentally rammed into a pengling with my seatruck and I am hiding the evidence to this day

eternal garnet
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the penguin boss at the end remembers

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I may have invented that

fluid flame
cobalt vector
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I got a jukebox and I'm kinda sad it only plays one song

plain nebula
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ye

eternal garnet
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you can find more CDs in the world

cobalt vector
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oh

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where

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I need more of the music

eternal garnet
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One is by the dock, ice land north west
also, on PC it can play mp3s

cobalt vector
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yeah but I play ps

plain nebula
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wait it can play mp3

eternal garnet
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put mp3s in my music\Unknown worlds\Subnautica

fluid flame
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I once saw a site or smth with bug reports what is that

plain nebula
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oh thats nice

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ima check that out

eternal garnet
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unknown worlds website

cobalt vector
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I wonder how it looks when you hold a dead pengling

fluid flame
cobalt vector
plain nebula
cobalt vector
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because I have a dead pengling

cobalt vector
plain nebula
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old screenshot cant

cobalt vector
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oh

plain nebula
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penglings are really good bioreactor fuel source btw

cobalt vector
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oh

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good to know

eternal garnet
plain nebula
cobalt vector
plain nebula
eternal garnet
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you may be mean to penglings, but don't post it here

cobalt vector
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so I have no good reason to keep my pengling corpse

plain nebula
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ok he was asking

fluid flame
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bro a peeper gives more 💀

plain nebula
cobalt vector
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I hope I can get moonpool. I don't want to constantly switch out power cells

eternal garnet
cobalt vector
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ok

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i don't exactly know whare those are

tough ingot
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idk how to plug it in

eternal garnet
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climb up

tough ingot
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yeah

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im at the test override module port

eternal garnet
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bring the test override, not the parallell thing

tough ingot
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oh

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what do i do with the parallel thing i thought thats what i needed

eternal garnet
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it's an ingredient

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such fail!

tough ingot
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oh dear

fluid flame
tough ingot
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do i need to scan more stuff to do that

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it would appear so

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brilliant

cobalt vector
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I need a lot of titanium and earlier I threw it out thinking "trash" Until I needed it for base building

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I should've just put it in a locker

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truly a stupid moment

slow seal
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Is there a mod or command to disable build restrictions?

frozen ether
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why is there green land, magma rivers and lakes when the rest of this place is frozen? (BZ world loading screen)

steel stream
eternal garnet
cobalt vector
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I think the game is fun

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I hope subnautica can be even better when I get it

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I have what I think are a sea monkey egg, a symbiote egg, and a bruteshark egg.

tough ingot
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below zero is great my only complaint is its no way near as scary as subnautica

cobalt vector
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nevermind I have sea monkey egg, arctic ray egg, and brinewing egg

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so I was wrong lol

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Apparrently people call chelicerate shrimp leviathan and it makes me kind of mad

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I wish I had prawn suit IRL

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it would be cool

steel shoal
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Rock Punchers are more shrimp-like than Chelicerates

cobalt vector
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I'm glad I found this forum

sacred jungle
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Rock Punchers punch rocks

topaz breach
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How long does it take to beat bozo on average

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From someone who has skill in the previous game

chrome cedar
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No shame in it taking longer, I actually feel sorry for those that do it fast, that means they missed out on a lot.

woven aurora
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below zero has zero character development orginal better

manic current
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Im gonna try a sparse reef base see what I can make

woven aurora
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who even are you

manic current
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A guy

steel shoal
manic current
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So this multipurposew room snaps below the large room but why cant I connect them?

chrome cedar
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They don’t join that way.

manic current
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How do you join them then?

chrome cedar
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Can’t join them vertically. Side by side I think they will connect, worst case an I Compartment.

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Or I compartments for both and a vertical connector if you really want one below the other.

steel shoal
manic current
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Oh wait I didnt even realise I was in the BZ chat my bad

steel shoal
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It's okey, happens all the time

lyric ember
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hey hey my subnautica below zero keeps crashing for some reason. it usually happens after twenty or thirty minutes of playing. i have a crash log if anyone would be willing to help me figure out the issue?

carmine bobcat
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I don't know if I'm in the right place I'm trying to get the platinum trophy for Subnautica below zero if anyone wants to help I can broadcast my game if so I'm struggling since December I tried using the command dev nothing I had to delete everything and start fresh

chrome cedar
chrome cedar
lyric ember
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its steam!

carmine bobcat
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No I know that lol I'm saying that I would like some help I don't have a problem broadcasting my game I have a mic to if anything because I'm struggling to find items to craft

gentle dome
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buy me below zero :>

chrome cedar
gentle dome
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i don't get chrismast moni

chrome cedar
gentle dome
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;-;

carmine bobcat
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I missing all of em I only have 1 I got

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I'm going for the platinum trophy but I don't want to bother anyone or you I'm terribly sorry forgive me

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My trophy to compare is open if anything my tag is xXAoS-KiNGXx

chrome cedar
carmine bobcat
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Let me finish my match I'll let you know

chrome cedar
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First one is finding the drop pod, usually pretty easy. LoL

carmine bobcat
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I have that trophy

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Won't tell mw

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me

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Last time I was on it was 5 days ago

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Ps4 version was 7 days ago

chrome cedar
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Break rocks, build tools, scan everything. That’s the basic advice starting out. Explore your immediate area, scan all the fragments you find to build more items. Then explore further away and deeper, you’ll find more interesting things as you explore outwards.

carmine bobcat
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I had to delete files on both

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I been doing all of that honestly

chrome cedar
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When you discover a beacon, explore around that area to progress.

carmine bobcat
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Which area?

chrome cedar
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Scan the beacon itself so you can make more of those, leave any beacons you find to serve as navigation points.

carmine bobcat
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I don't have a scanner

chrome cedar
carmine bobcat
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My friend was nice enough to get in to my account to see what I have he deleted my account off

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And beacon??

chrome cedar
carmine bobcat
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Where would I find a beacon

chrome cedar
# carmine bobcat And beacon??

It’s a signal the game gives you at some locations. You discover these after swimming around various areas. But make the scanner first. Then a knife. Then more tools and equipment…

carmine bobcat
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I don't know how to make a scanner

chrome cedar
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Go to your drop pod, use the fabricator. Look under the equipment list to find it, it will tell you what you need. You can also pin items from the fabricator list to remember what you need to look for.

carmine bobcat
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I do have twitch of anything I can record my game explaining I get more lost

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And I go to freemode I was told makes it easier

chrome cedar
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You’re very early game. Break rocks, pick up resources you can grab. Take them back to the pod. Repeat.

carmine bobcat
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I been doing that

chrome cedar
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I don’t think you’ll get trophies in free mode.

carmine bobcat
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No I know but I'm saying if I do freemode I don't have to worry about losing health ect ect ect

chrome cedar
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Yes but then you don’t get a trophy, that’s what you started asking about…

carmine bobcat
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Oh so what do you recommend

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If I go into freemode I can do things from scratch like find stuff to craft

chrome cedar
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That’s fine for exploring a bit and getting a feel for the game. Keep that save if you want, but start a new one in survival so you can get the trophies.

carmine bobcat
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I tried survival I kept dying

chrome cedar
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In the survival save, collect resources on your way to the drop pod. Ribbon plants and copper let you make a battery, that plus a titanium makes a scanner.

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Watch your oxygen and surface before it runs out. When you can make rubber you can make fins that let you swim faster, later you can make an oxygen tank for being underwater longer.

carmine bobcat
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You have no idea how many trophies I need to get platinum lol I was given a map sadly is very complicated

chrome cedar
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Pin items from the fabricator to keep track of what you need to build things.

carmine bobcat
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I didn't know you can pin

chrome cedar
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Don’t worry about the map, you need to let the game unfold on its own. The whole goal is the exploration.

carmine bobcat
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I wish I can show you what I have but I have bad trust issues really bad especially giving my account especially blueprints to??

chrome cedar
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And when you are at the very beginning of the game look around your crash area, there is some food and water there which helps.

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I don’t need to see your account. LoL

carmine bobcat
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Where would I find that

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Water etc

steel stream
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Just to clarify game modes: 'freedom' is basically survival without water and food, but still need oxygen and can die of damage and need to unlock blueprints and get materials, and can still get achievements. Creative is the totally open, no damage, no materials required and no achievements.

chrome cedar
carmine bobcat
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Left or right?

chrome cedar
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Seriously, just look around.

carmine bobcat
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Ok I was told better to record my game broadcast for guidance where to go ect as the other person is telling me where to go as he or she is watching my stream

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I have twitch

chrome cedar
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You may as well just watch someone else’s walkthrough on YouTube at that point. It would be faster…

carmine bobcat
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Do you have a history or any link you recommend? I was given alot but no trophy was unlocked

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They were Xbox which I have all the achievements since 2021 I think

chrome cedar
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Goggle Below zero beginners guide, that should find something.

carmine bobcat
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That's on YouTube and I should get trophy with no problems?

chrome cedar
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Trophies take time. The second one may take an hour in the game for, after that more hours for the next one. Full playthrough you’re looking at 20 hours game time or more, depending on how well you’re doing.

carmine bobcat
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I wish there was an easy guide honestly

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All I saw was speedruns

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And I know they take time

chrome cedar
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Ignore those, they bypass most of the game.

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And many are older versions.

carmine bobcat
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I did ignore them lol

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Ik

chrome cedar
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Almost 1am here, gotta get some sleep. Good luck!

carmine bobcat
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If you recommend a YouTube channel I would appreciate it I tried my friends forget it got me so lost I died

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Thanks have a good night I appreciate the help I do

chrome cedar
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Like I said, google beginners guide and that should help.

carmine bobcat
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Thank you I will if anything I'll let you know for sure sorry to bother you I appreciate your time I do

warped patio
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What do you fill the large room with? It just seems like way to much empty space

bold monolith
warped patio
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Alright thanks

bold monolith
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I usually have a storage room and the others filled with alien containements / aquariums.

fervent bloom
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Is there a visual effect for a badly damaged Seatruck module, in the same way that there is for the main vehicle?

steady crow
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Is there a sub-science below zero multiplayer?

smoky ridge
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||what do i do after i extend the bridge litterally nothing on the other side||

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Help

fervent bloom
smoky ridge
steady crow
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how to set up multiplayer in subnautica below zero

white spade
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mod

steady crow
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Which mod?

white spade
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nerox or nexus

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forgot the name for it

steady crow
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NITROX ?

white spade
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ye that one ig

steady crow
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Subnautica BZ Multiplayer mod
The mod is currently in alpha testing, and only patron users have access to it. When the beta version is released, it will be available to all users.

Please wait for the beta version. If you want to try the mod in the alpha version. You can subscribe via Patreon.

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it gives the following error when downloading

white spade
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never said you wanted free

smoky ridge
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Also when i went really deep(500m)? and find the blue worm that's terrorising the place

What do i do in there

steady crow
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or you can link where you can download the mod right away, otherwise the site gives an error

smoky ridge
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Yea

white spade
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the area is mushrooms or crystals?

smoky ridge
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What do i do in this biome

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Crystal

steady crow
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is this mod paid?

white spade
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you explore and find the alien place

smoky ridge
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Built a huge base nearby

white spade
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cant say anymore srry you must experience it

smoky ridge
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Or will the robot tell me where to go

white spade
smoky ridge
steady crow
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@white spade is this mod paid?

white spade
smoky ridge
white spade
smoky ridge
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Ah

white spade
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it is worth to explore tho

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you can even murder the leviathan

smoky ridge
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Never found one

white spade
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yes

steel shoal
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No, they removed it

eternal garnet
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only via cheat

white spade
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they did?

smoky ridge
craggy fox
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Good riddance

smoky ridge
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Why so💀

steel shoal
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It was unhealthy

eternal garnet
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also didn't work on wormy

smoky ridge
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Also propulsion cannon fragments where?

Only found one so far

eternal garnet
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hm. monkey nests, I think in the west big kelp forest

smoky ridge
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Also that electric shock thing

steel shoal
# white spade you can even murder the leviathan

Why must you suggest new players to cheese the barely difficult game 😔 tell them that stopping to pilot the Sea Truck makes it not target you, and that a well-timed Perimeter Defense negates all damage...

steel shoal
smoky ridge
steel shoal
smoky ridge
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Yes

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Finished her quests

steel shoal
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||It's at her deep base||

smoky ridge
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Found that too

eternal garnet
steel shoal
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Ignis' tool :0

smoky ridge
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Already found her base

steel shoal
smoky ridge
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Didn't search properly then

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Found a toilet tho💀

steel shoal
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The toilet description is the best

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It's just so realistic

smoky ridge
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Water pollution

topaz breach
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Are there ever any sales in bz?

steel shoal
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It was on sale last week, not sure if still is

topaz breach
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Bruh

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How much is it without sale?

steel shoal
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30 dollas

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It was 50% off I think

topaz breach
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That’s like $1 an hour

steel shoal
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What do you mean?

topaz breach
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Hopefully there will be another sale soon

topaz breach
steel shoal
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While many people take 30 hours to beat the game, it contains content for many many hours

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An average person misses a ton of content

left marsh
steel shoal
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I tried to miss as little content as possible, it took me about 40 hours

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But the base building is soooo good, I am nearning 100 hours

left marsh
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I kinda just lived in a seatruck

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It’s like a cramped cyclops

steel shoal
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I'm making a 2nd main base :)

left marsh
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I did have multipurpose rooms just scattered around…for storage

left marsh
steel shoal
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Yess

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It's lookin great

left marsh
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Has the local resident been a nuisane or nah?

steel shoal
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The local resident is the main attraction

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Love Christie very much

carmine bobcat
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@chrome cedar sorry to bother you I found out lol I have share screen on my ps5 I'll try YouTube later on in my free time I'm just afraid to try freemode where I can find items to craft ect that way I don't have to worry about water food ect without using commands developer I saw one kid who did it get got the trophy but was speedrun lol was no help

eternal garnet
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freedom has trophies / achievements. Custom game does not

mint wing
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trying to find a good place for a base

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i want a different location than the usual but with it being convenient to travel to and from places

white spade
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mushroom cave

steel shoal
steel shoal
eternal garnet
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cotton anemone cave

steel shoal
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I don't quite see anemones as mushrooms

eternal garnet
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many do

steel shoal
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Jellyshroom caves are very mushroomy, but anemones not really

eternal garnet
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especially the small ones.

steel shoal
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I guess the small ones, from afar, do look like it

vocal wind
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I deed it, I beat the game. HYPERS

steel shoal
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@carmine bobcat I don't think the biomes look unfinished, they're definitely not as tall, but that makes them feel more detailed. SN had plenty of barren biomes (Dunes, Crash Zone, a large portion of Bulb Zone, Mountains, Crag Field, Grand Reef, Sea Treader's Path) and biomes were so tall you'd always need a vehicle (Grassy Plateaus is 200m deep, even though the tallest structures are not even that tall)

steel stream
steel shoal
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For an arctic region, it's very diverse, but still feels arctic

white spade
steel shoal
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Anemones are cnidaria not fungi 💔

fervent bloom
eternal garnet
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Yes. There aren't even true fish here

steel shoal
fervent bloom
bitter geode
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sup guys

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professional leviathan hunter here

carmine bobcat
# steel shoal <@456226577798135808> I don't think the biomes look unfinished, they're definite...

||There are so many locations that just feel empty to me. The glacier biomes have almost nothing to them, and most locations are just in between biomes to get to another place. ||

||Don’t get me wrong. Subnautica 1 also had biomes which (somewhat) felt empty. Like the Lost River and the Lava Lake, however, the original game connected a lot of unique elements to the Lost River which were big editions to the actual story of the game, and the Lava Lakes also connected multiple containment facilities that were necessary to reach.||

||Below Zero just felt like it was making biomes as if it was making levels in a platformer just to make it more challenging to complete||

bitter geode
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holy yap

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bro said the lost river felt empty

carmine bobcat
bitter geode
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not really

next current
bitter geode
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LR connected literally every major story part

steel shoal
bitter geode
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tall…?

next current
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Needs more bones.

steel shoal
# carmine bobcat ||There are so many locations that just feel empty to me. The glacier biomes hav...

I guess the BZ biomes aren't as impactful to most players. Lost River has all these fossils, that have cool lore and all. In BZ, the main aspect of the deepest biomes is how they were formed, as there aren't any memorable fossils or anything. I understand people not being interested in it. Also, it seems the map focused more on being pretty instead of scary, as the Chelicerate is not at all comparable to the Reaper

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I personally really like the majestic look of the leviathans, instead of the very aggressive designs of Reapers/||Sea Dragons||, but I see people not liking it very much

scarlet tree
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hey guys i was just wondering

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i have finished subnautica story and even explored mods and ill be honest below zero doesnt look that good to me

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is it better than it looks?

eternal garnet
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I think you'll like it. Just don't consider it Subnautica 2, cause it's not

scarlet tree
wispy jolt
eternal garnet
scarlet tree
eternal garnet
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I was closer to 40, but I don't rush

steel shoal
wispy jolt
steel shoal
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I took around 40 hours as well, and I tried not to miss anything (I did a few)

green peak
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hello

drifting laurel
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I would say bz is more chill. There are less things that attack you in my opinion and many times I’ve run away from things that look hostile only for them to wander past me looking for something else.

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||Also chelicerates seem to focus more on attacking the mutated turtle things with the flaps (idk the name) rather than me||

mint wing
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lmao i love how much vegeterian hardcore run makes u focus

steel shoal
cosmic monolith
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like no malicious stuff?

eternal garnet
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I believe so. But check the source is official nitrox

cosmic monolith
eternal garnet
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yes

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since I think you need an old game version, steam will be reqired

fervent bloom
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Regardless of how realistic it is, I enjoy the fact that no creatures will attack vehicles when they aren't being piloted in this game.

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It's much better for watching creatures.

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This is very important: should my shot of the ||shadow leviathan|| be taken in the ||Crystal Caves|| or the ||Fabricator Caverns||?

eternal garnet
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I could never take such important decisions

fervent bloom
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I could do both, but the space for images on the PDA is limited...

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With these animals, you can position a Seatruck along their circuit and get multiple attempts at the same image.

fervent bloom
steel shoal
fervent bloom
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Regardless, they're beautiful creatures.

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After that, if I take a glow whale picture, I'll have one of every leviathan.

willow apex
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is BZ worth it? i extremely enjoyed the first subnautica, though i've seen some negative reviews that sound like dealbreakers

steel shoal
chrome cedar
steel shoal
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Thank you for agreeing, Tig

hexed sparrow
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yeahh

carmine bobcat
copper pagoda
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There are less hostile creatures in general. BZ is not a psychological horror game.

#

You generally don't have to worry much about being attacked, unlike SN

twin ravine
#

Is subnautica below zero more time to complete the story line/100% it or is more or less the same time as the first

copper pagoda
#

More or less the same.

twin ravine
#

That's cool

copper pagoda
#

I liked BZ because it had no NEVER GO HERE EVER areas like the Dunes/Mountains/Grand Reef

twin ravine
#

Nice

copper pagoda
#

Well, there's the void, but you shouldn't go there anyway.

twin ravine
#

True

tough ingot
#

the fact that what should be the biggest scare in the game is shown on the front cover of the game tells you everything u need to know

mint wing
copper pagoda
#

I never felt like I was in danger of swimming into the void by accident.

tough ingot
#

theres like 13 in the dunes like bro i just want to scan my nuclear reactor

carmine bobcat
#

Why did they make the PDA french 😭

eternal garnet
#

that's an upper class indian accent, if you play English

carmine bobcat
#

huh

#

doesnt appear to be a way to change it to subnauticas version

eternal garnet
#

no

carmine bobcat
#

yea thats what i said

#

i looked for a way to change it n' there doesnt appear to be a way

#

probably bcuz this pda wasnt alterra based

#

its a xeno.. thingy..

fathom marsh
#

how does BZ look so much better?

tough ingot
#

i wouldnt say that

#

but it is newer

fathom marsh
mint wing
#

everywhere i look it says that all the snowfox parts are available in phi robotics centre

#

but im there and only have 2/3

chrome cedar
#

Everywhere lies.

#

Scout around the outside of the base and further ||East I think (left from the Phi doors)||, and there are more scattered around.

mint wing
#

uhhh btw is that from looking at the doors from outside

#

or inside cause thats 2 different directions otherwise

#

found the last one

chrome cedar
#

From outside, sorry. There’s at least a dozen fragments I’m pretty sure. Free titanium when you spot them. 😎

pliant jetty
#

But I'd argue the original had more interesting art design

fathom marsh
gentle dome
#

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

#

now i ma play 24/7
first time playing experience :>

charred sequoia
indigo mantle
#

anyone know where i cna find diamond

left marsh
#

deep twisty bridges and || koppa mine||

indigo mantle
#

should i focus on making a base or should i live off the drop pod for a while

eternal garnet
#

make a base when you can. Near delta is nice and central

#

Have room to expand

vapid hedge
#

where do i find prawn suit parts?

indigo mantle
vapid hedge
eternal garnet
vapid hedge
#

but aight

eternal garnet
#

then you are trying to jump ahead a bit

#

It's just south of the pod. North = volcano and the small moon

indigo mantle
#

if u go headon towards the delta docks and then follow it around anti clockwise

vapid hedge
vapid hedge
#

wait..

#

This is below zero chat 😭

eternal garnet
#

huhu

bold crown
#

guys at what point am i supposed to get a habitat builder

#

cuz ive been playing for like 5 hours in my starting pod

bold monolith
#

When you find it.

bold crown
#

cuz i remember i found mine in the first subnautica pretty early on

#

and i can't find any components anywhere

bold monolith
#

There isn't really a good or better way to play the game.

#

There are 5 fragments, you eventually stumble upon one.

bold crown
#

im just asking if its normal to not have one within like 5 hours of pt

steel stream
#

Either you're not exploring enough, or you have passed at least one builder fragment without noticing it

bold monolith
#

You go at your own pace though.

atomic arch
#

When is there going to be a bz update

bold monolith
#

There isn't one planned.

steel stream
#

I guess not expected...

atomic arch
#

😔

#

this is why their game is dying

plush fjord
#

It isn't

steel stream
#

Why would no updates mean that a game is dying?

bold monolith
#

It isn't a game as a service. You can't really say it's dying.

#

2k players on Steam as well. It isn't a bad number.

#

Especially for a singleplayer game.

undone lantern
#

i swear you were able to crouch

bold monolith
undone lantern
#

sick the next subnautica

bold monolith
undone lantern
#

but i need to pick my prestons delight

eternal garnet
#

try putting them in those little wall pots

undone lantern
#

ohh yeahh

#

alr

undone lantern
#

how do people play the game without finding the drop pod

eternal garnet
#

for that, define "gamer"

undone lantern
#

and only 21% have beat the game 💀

eternal garnet
#

maybe the game didn't work right, got 2 FPS etc

#

maybe they bought to play later. This is really common, I have a game queue of about 20 now

undone lantern
eternal garnet
#

yesbut, 85% of exactly who?

undone lantern
#

idk people?

eternal garnet
#

owners, or people who installed, or started the game

#

I think probably the last one

undone lantern
#

luna confused ooga booga?

eternal garnet
#

I can promise not all who own it ever installed it

hollow birch
#

I killed a squidshark and chelicerate with my prawn suit today

undone lantern
#

whats the point in buying it then

eternal garnet
#

To play later! On sale etc. Gifted maybe

undone lantern
eternal garnet
#

like I said, I have 20 games waiting for me now

hollow birch
eternal garnet
#

list growing...

undone lantern
undone lantern
hollow birch
#

I learnt the sacred art of drill arm plus grapple combo

undone lantern
#

epic

#

have you killed a artic peeper yet

hollow birch
hollow birch
undone lantern
#

artic peepers are really hard to kill

hollow birch
# hollow birch

Also after I killed him bro just started going through the map

eternal garnet
#

Moc is at 57%, that's nice

undone lantern
#

send squidshark pics

hollow birch
hollow birch
undone lantern
#

damn those are some long blue things

hollow birch
#

The squidshark was so easy I got the idea of killing the chelocerate

undone lantern
#

kill al-an angryduck

hollow birch
#

Do like the absolute kill everything run

undone lantern
#

couldent you just die and alan would die since hes in your noggin

hollow birch
#

I wonder what if you could bake and eat the checlicerate

undone lantern
#

Mmmm red and spikey

hollow birch
#

Crunchy

undone lantern
#

did you kill sea dragon in og subnautica

hollow birch
#

Nah I literally began the killing frenzy today

undone lantern
#

pluh

hollow birch
#

Might try doe

#

Never killed a reaper and those seem weak to me now

undone lantern
#

doe?

#

duke of Edinburgh?

hollow birch
#

Nah

#

Doe is abbreviation for though

eternal garnet
#

ya no caps

hollow birch
#

Also I just realised the reaper has 5000 health

undone lantern
#

Sorry meatie

#

kill the iceworm JanitorHead

hollow birch
#

So

  • smaller than the chelicarate
  • stronger
undone lantern
eternal garnet
#

trolling. you can't kill it or even touch it

undone lantern
#

can you kill the ice worm or is he invincible

hollow birch
#

Also I found out that the chelocarete has the black 4 legged shark things 1 hit

hollow birch
#

I forgore their name

#

Cryptosuchus

#

What is that name dude

undone lantern
#

Cryptosuchus

#

kill void Chelicerate

hollow birch
#

So far I killed:

  • cryptosuchus
  • crab thing
  • checlicarate
  • squidshark
  • a lot of minority fish
undone lantern
#

rock puncher = crab thing

hollow birch
undone lantern
#

uhhh

#

hmmm

#

use knife

hollow birch
undone lantern
#

who was talking about stasis rifle?

#

:)

hollow birch
#

Stasis rifle heat knife combo

undone lantern
#

wb just a heat knife

#

no rifle

#

but yes glock 18

#

jk

hollow birch
#

Man now i remember when I got that one time capsule with a picture of someone holding a heat knife next to a reaper leviathan

undone lantern
#

lol

#

did you get the heat knife

hollow birch
#

I forgor

undone lantern
#

or was it just a flex capsuel

hollow birch
#

That was like 2 3 years ago

undone lantern
#

damn

#

i hate stupid void lethiathan last time i went to crystal cave it almost destroyed my prawn

#

it was on 10% Omen_Cry

#

is subnautica 3 multiplayer cus i think i should be cus multiplayer is fun

eternal garnet
#

"is" they said

undone lantern
#

maybe yayayayayaya

eternal garnet
#

We don't know if it will have multiplayer, or even the name

steel shoal
undone lantern
#

but in below zero you werent alone

#

cus marg

eternal garnet
#

and more too

undone lantern
eternal garnet
#

and you talk. Which some fans don't like

undone lantern
#

yeah

#

and you have pda which talks and both vehicles and base talks

eternal garnet
#

and you are forgetting a certain RGB person

steel shoal
chrome cedar
carmine bobcat
#

marguerite served no purpose lmaooooooo

chrome cedar
#

She had a nice garden…

carmine bobcat
#

and?

chrome cedar
#

And managed to clear out Alterra. Otherwise Robyn’s mission never would have happened.

carmine bobcat
#

whateverrrrr still a sideshowwwww

#

also she looks hella weird in the prawn ngl

steel shoal
carmine bobcat
#

and???

steel shoal
carmine bobcat
#

yeah

#

but we're gonna ignore that

#

for no reason

fervent bloom
#

What happens if you walk through the Delta Island caves for the first time in a Prawn suit?

steel shoal
#

I think it doesn't trigger the event

eternal garnet
#

you get stuck maybe

fervent bloom
eternal garnet
#

yes

#

Get off my seabase! alwayswatching

fervent bloom
#

My impression is that the ||Greenhouse|| is older (than the ||Lilypad Islands|| Seabase that the player enters first), but I'd be curious to see what you think.

eternal garnet
#

older than what?

#

Somewhere she mentions that once she took up gardening life got easier or something

chrome cedar
fervent bloom
chrome cedar
#

She shed…

fervent bloom
chrome cedar
#

I would.

fervent bloom
# chrome cedar I would.

I'm guessing that they are extraordinarily soft and fluffy... their fur is used in the cold suit.

chrome cedar
#

I have huskies at home. These seem more cuddly. Huskies don’t like to cuddle.

fervent bloom
chrome cedar
#

Really wish we could have had pet snow stalkers…

fervent bloom
rocky roost
#

Yoooooo

#

What's better

#

Below zero or subnautica

chrome cedar
#

Would have been nice. Maybe if folks wouldn’t have ragged on BZ early on it may have been more popular and gotten a few more things fleshed out.

chrome cedar
#

Subnautica is a larger game, more world to explore, scarier. BZ is more story oriented, but has better graphics and creatures.

cerulean iris
#

How do you collect ||snow stalker fur?||

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
cerulean iris
#

Ah. I was searching for the music disks and I came across a few of the furry bois. Figured I should get some fur while im here, but a prawn suit and drill arm aren’t gonna help it seems

chrome cedar
#

Nope

eternal garnet
#

the cave just south of the south lake has fur

cerulean iris
#

I have found a much more interesting cave it seems. How do I use the sample machine in the ||frozen leviathan cave||?

eternal garnet
#

you gotta find the cure. Sam hid it. ||And marked it on the phi wall map||

cerulean iris
cerulean iris
#

I’ve seen maps from the literal 1700s that were more detailed and accurate than that one

eternal garnet
#

its not detailed at all. it's in ||a pengling cave, just west of the south lake||

#

I have a picture guide for it

cerulean iris
eternal garnet
#

no

#

it's on the ground in a couple of caves

#

remember, holding a flare keeps doggies away

cerulean iris
eternal garnet
#

oh. The paranoid android

cerulean iris
eternal garnet
#

I forgot to tell you to save 4 times an hour

cerulean iris
oak geyser
cerulean iris
# oak geyser Yeah I want more disks I only found two so far

4 of them are in different te parts of the ||arctic bay||. Unfortunately the big ||snow snake worm thingy|| won’t stay long enough to fight me. Literally punched it once and now it actually screams and runs away when I get near. Nothing that can be spooked THAT easily should be a ||leviathan|| but it could just be the AI acting up. Or maybe it’s scared of Marvin the Magnanimous Machine

oak geyser
cerulean iris
oak geyser
cerulean iris
chrome cedar
fervent bloom
willow apex
#

started playing bz right after the first sn and i was not expecting a new PDA voice but i like it so far

twin lotus
#

helo

ionic pond
#

so

#

Below zero starts because ||a woman named robin or something comes to the planet 2 years after the first subnautica event because her sister mysteriously died and she comes to the planet to find answers||

twin lotus
#

robin its not worth it dont do it

eternal garnet
#

yes, no need to spoiler that

ionic pond
#

But during those ||2 years after ryley left, he obviously disabled the weapon and everything so they came down looking for the survivors of the aurora and were searching and investigating the planet, but a meteor shower came to the planet so they had to leave||

twin lotus
#

ohhh okay

#

i havent played bz but i have it bc i bought it in a bundle

ionic pond
#

I haven't played BZ either and don't have it

#

But it's definitely my next game I'm buying

eternal garnet
#

There are other reasons they packed up and left. In the story

ionic pond
#

what happened?

#

I only heard that where was a meteor shower and they left

eternal garnet
#

Well, an accident where 2 died. One of them Sam

ionic pond
#

Oh yeah, what was the accident again

eternal garnet
#

Robins sister. Robin is you.

twin lotus
ionic pond
twin lotus
#

ahh

ionic pond
#

But how did the accident happen

twin lotus
#

i ate the ship im sorry

ionic pond
#

Like what was the accident about that caused them to leave and also the death of robins sister

eternal garnet
#

complicated. Involving explosives in a cave. Play it

ionic pond
#

ah okay

twin lotus
#

is bz or subnautica scarier bc subnautica is scary enough

eternal garnet
#

oh and a leviathan, trapped in ice

ionic pond
#

Also is there any evidence of alteraa being there for the 2 years before BZ or is that just fan lore

eternal garnet
ionic pond
eternal garnet
#

no

twin lotus
#

also ||someone said ryley is in jail what did he do||

ionic pond
twin lotus
#

oh wait that was serious

ionic pond
#

BC everything he collected was alterras property

worldly holly
#

skibidi

eternal garnet
#

yes... it was. But it's ok, he did the talk shows on 3DTV

ionic pond
#

so what about the frozen reaper @eternal garnet

eternal garnet
#

this is not canon

eternal garnet
ionic pond
#

nah I'm too scared

#

Is it big part of the story

#

Also you know the way that you ||hatch the 5 sea emperors in subnautica, are they in BZ?||

eternal garnet
#

they are not

#

but there may be an alien for you to meet

ionic pond
#

I know that dude

#

how come he ain't in subnautica

ionic pond
chrome cedar
ionic pond
#

So does that mean BZ is present in subnautica but we just cant go to it

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
#

right. colder part of the planet

ionic pond
chrome cedar
ionic pond
#

subnautica 1

#

After ryley left

eternal garnet
#

oh yes

chrome cedar
#

All the Alterra bases came after. Before that ships would get shot down.

eternal garnet
#

There are several alterra bases

ionic pond
#

Is there like PDAs from alterra employees that were working there

chrome cedar
#

Many

ionic pond
eternal garnet
#

And one character you heard of from Subnautica. You meet them

ionic pond
chrome cedar
#

Riley told them it was disabled, presumably.

#

Details of that between the two games are open to speculation.

ionic pond
#

wish we got answers as to what happened to ryley after he left

chrome cedar
#

Stay tuned…

eternal garnet
#

nuh uh. not in this game. Maybe the next, or the 4th

ionic pond
#

wouldn't the next subnautica start off as the end of BZ?

#

because like robin ||leaves with al-an and they go find the other precursors ||

eternal garnet
#

we have no clue

chrome cedar
#

A while back someone (a developer?) said that the next game was supposed to be a direct sequel to the first. But that may not actually be true, I can’t find where that was said.

ionic pond
#

they should make robin and ryley meet

chrome cedar
#

Plans change, so stay tuned.

ionic pond
#

They're giving us details this year on subnautica 3

eternal garnet
#

yup. Sometime this year

chrome cedar
#

There was an announcement that news was coming this year. No timeline. May be 12/31/24…

ionic pond
#

nvm I was looking at the media section on X

willow apex
#

hes so cute am i able to take him without the big penguins beating me to death i havent played this game before

eternal garnet
willow apex
eternal garnet
#

lateer you can find proper pet eggs. But they are hidden

#

name is trivalve

ionic pond
willow apex
ionic pond
#

How does the game know you're leaving though

eternal garnet
#

releasing it is an action on the cuddlefish

#

it swims off

willow apex
cerulean iris
cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

Wait there's another cure in this game?

willow apex
#

i am hearing roars and i do not like it

cerulean iris
cerulean iris
willow apex
#

thankfully i made it there but now its night so i dont wanna go back into the water yet

cerulean iris
#

On that note, I still remember my first encounter with the ||Chelicerate.|| I had never seen or heard it before, and when I turned around it was literally mid attack animation. Haven’t been that scared since I first saw a Reaper haha

ionic pond
#

who's thomas

cerulean iris
willow apex
#

hopefully its not as scary as the reapers lol, otherwise i might end up exiting out the game 💀

#

okay i see what the roaring thing was now

cerulean iris
# ionic pond who's thomas

He’s a famous real life “InVeNtOr” that got crazy rich and influential for his thousands of patents, but over a century later we’ve seen that at least 90% of the patents he registered with the US government were either directly stolen from other people that didn’t have the means to defend their prosperity or were just the same product with slight changes, with the “newer” product gaining all the attention because Edison had friends in high places. He died almost a century ago but man still gets (very rightfully) hated on

ionic pond
#

so she said she found the cure but it was actually Ryley that found it

cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

and she called it her own

cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

wait so what is the ||cure in BZ|| used for then if the whole planet ||got cured from Ryley releasing it into the water||

ionic pond
cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

then what's the ||cure in BZ for?||

cerulean iris
ionic pond
cerulean iris
cerulean iris
# ionic pond I'm really really sure

The short version: ||Sam-your sister- realized that Alterra was trying to get a pure sample of Kharaa. A mega-conglomerate in space getting their hands on a disease so powerful it killed a species of almost-gods, and not giving any real response as to WHY they wanted it was extremely sus, so Sam goes to neutralize their samples they gathered. Shortly after, Sam “mysteriously dies” and Alterra very quickly covers everything up. Robin goes to investigate and that’s where the game starts||

ionic pond
#

But that explained some to me aswell, I never knew alterra went down for that reason

cerulean iris
# ionic pond where does the ||cure|| come in play though 😭

How else would she destroy the ||Kharaa||? She probably got her hands on some ||Enzyme 42|| and went to town on the undiluted bacteria and Alterra, being the Disneymartazon that they are were like || how dare you stop us from committing intergalactic warcrimes?!||

ionic pond
cerulean iris
#

Then there’s that one character from the first game that’s still alive. Somehow. We’re not talking about them though, no matter how cool they are!

cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

Ryley found out from data terminals in the ||alien bases, aswell as PDAs from people with the virus, plus with the help of the sea emperor near the end aswell||

cerulean iris
# ionic pond how did ||sam know there was a virus and how did she know how to make the cure?|...

The entirety of 4546B was infected, but the ||frozen leviathan was basically covered in the ancient cancerous ancestor of the virus, preserved in ice||. That’s why scientist in real life are extremely careful about studying ancient polar course that they harvest. Multicellular organisms die when frozen, but that isn’t always true for single celled things like bacteria, viruses, and preserved prions

cerulean iris
cerulean iris
# ionic pond Oo I never knew that about IRL

Fun fact: the meteor that killed the dinosaurs wasn’t the first extinction event. The dinosaurs were nearly all wiped out by botulism-related diseases in the past, so there’s always a chance that another sample of polar ice could contain the organisms that were the equivalent of that meteor. Real life history tends to not die… sometimes literally

cerulean iris
# ionic pond Alterra knew before ryley???

4546B is just one world. The ||Architects|| were a galaxy wide civilization, same as humans in the game. Someone mentioned in the chat earlier that the game takes place on the other side of the Andromeda galaxy. Andromeda is the galaxy beside our home galaxy, the Milky Way

ionic pond
cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

A half aquatic planet half frozen

cerulean iris
cerulean iris
ionic pond
#

Alterra landed on the polar and water or just polar?

ionic pond
unique jacinth
#

Guys is the glowwhale thing technically a leviathan or nah

ionic pond
#

It's a leviathan class fauna yes

unique jacinth
#

Alright

willow apex
#

which biomes do i find gold in?

bold crown
#

do i get to this artifact through land or through a cave within the ocean

willow apex
#

how do i avoid those little crocodile things at purple vents?

bold crown
#

can't seem to find one

warped patio
short jackal
#

should i bother getting a nuclear reactor?

warped patio
short jackal
#

i dont think its worth it to build rods

thick hatch
#

.

gentle dome
#

first time playing :>

oak geyser
gentle dome
#

1 hour in
interesting

steel shoal
mellow geode
steel shoal
#

Just because it isn't mandatory for completion, it doesn't mean it's not important sn_neutral you don't have to find the Degasi or scan Alien technology

mellow geode
#

i mean, it's not like you don't know my gripe about the story telling in BZ

#

at least with SN we're more or less consistent

steel shoal
#

In SN we have significantly less parts, and our objective is simple. Detective work is not simple, it gets us all over the place

gentle dome
#

how to get gold?

#

help

#

how to get gold

steel shoal
#

Near Delta Island

gentle dome
#

ok thx

#

i haven't discovered that :<

steel shoal
#

You'll get a signal eventually

gentle dome
#

yee

mellow geode
# steel shoal In SN we have significantly less parts, and our objective is simple. Detective w...

yes i get that. but imo SN's story telling is much more coherent. even though a lot of people lose sight of what their objective should be. but at the very least, from the beginning to the end, your one objective is to ||get yourself off the planet, and almost everything you're doing is to advance towards that goal, or explaining to you how you ended up in this situation in the first place||

for BZ, we start off by ||being so determined to investigate our sister's death that we're willing to attempt a crash landing onto 4546b during a meteor storm, only to have what happened to her getting pieced together in a few abandoned PDAs that many people don't even read. meeting margurite, helping her "fix" the comms tower and getting invited to her greenhouse is an entirely optional side quest. in fact, we don't even need to find out what happened to sam, all we need to do to complete the game is to have our brain kidnapped, build Al-An his body and elope with him. which is why i feel the story telling in BZ is poorer than SN||

gentle dome
#

well nope

gentle dome
#

very spoopy

steel shoal
#

There's those Cryptolosers

steel shoal
gentle dome
#

2 hours in

#

||got the alien thingi||

#

got the truck

#

is there a moonpool in this game?

bold monolith
#

Yes there is.

cerulean iris
cerulean iris
willow apex
#

i'm getting jumped 😭 the little alligator and some big pinkish red dude just popped up and are killing me

#

extremely unpleasant experience but i survived 🔥

willow apex
#

where can i find diamonds? im trying to make a depth module for my seatruck

plush fjord
#

In twisty bridges there is a cave with alot of diamonds

#

Also squidsharks

willow apex
#

is it somewhere i can reach without any depth upgrades on seatruck?

plush fjord
willow apex
#

oh ok

stable fossil
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is custom game only in below zero? im on switch in the first game Nd cant find it, also does in freedom do i need to find materials or its like creative, i just want the creatures to interact with me

eternal garnet
plush fjord
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Wasn't custom added to Subnautica in the most recent update?

eternal garnet
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I don't think so. Sometimes I am wrong

bold monolith
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No.

topaz sonnet
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hi guys

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anyone is here?
i need help

eternal garnet
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yes

topaz sonnet
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ok so

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i jsut unlocked the camera thing room yk?

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just*

eternal garnet
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scanner room?

topaz sonnet
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ye

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well i want the cpu thing to see the things

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but idk how to get magnetite

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rn i have ruby,lithium,titanium,copper,diamond and more

eternal garnet
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got any aliens in your head?

topaz sonnet
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yup xd

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i got Al-An

eternal garnet
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unpin all, pin an item with magnetite, find monkeys. But not in twisty bridges, no magnetite there

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Lilypads works well

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why? What they give you is only 50% random

topaz sonnet
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im nto pro with zones tho

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not

eternal garnet
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the green biome

topaz sonnet
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i have seatruck mk2

eternal garnet
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with the lilypads. it's south-east

topaz sonnet
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kelp?

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ok wait im goin to say to you where i am rn

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im at the pod yeah

eternal garnet
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pod = twisty bridges

topaz sonnet
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oh ok

steel stream
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I think magnetite works also with arctic kelp monkeys. It's ruby and nickel that only work in lilypads

eternal garnet
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compass helps with discord help
Go south, southeast, past the yellow ground to the green. find monkeys in the crevices

topaz sonnet
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so u mean the scanner stealers can have magnetite?

eternal garnet
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yes, but not up in twisty bridges, most likely

topaz sonnet
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thats surprisingohno

eternal garnet
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you may not have noticed. they don't steal anymore

steel stream
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I'm quite sure I have received magnetite from them near drop pod area...

topaz sonnet
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ooh then thats cool

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nah bro, im too unlucky

eternal garnet
topaz sonnet
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for now i've seen 3 leviathans.

topaz sonnet
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diff races

eternal garnet
topaz sonnet
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ima go to where u said

eternal garnet
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pin somethinhg with no titanium, quartz, copper

carmine bobcat
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What does Below Zero offer that Subnautica 1 doesn’t except change of scenery (genuine question, considering getting it)

topaz sonnet
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wdym pin

chrome cedar
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Scanner HUD is my go to pin.

topaz sonnet
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ye i wanna do the hud.

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and am i able to make my seatruck bigger or not?

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
topaz sonnet
eternal garnet
# topaz sonnet how?

find and scan modules (compartments). Your first two are in deep twisty, below 300m

topaz sonnet
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i already have seatruck

eternal garnet
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yes you will need that

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the modules hook onto the back

steel shoal
chrome cedar
# topaz sonnet wdym pin

Fabricator will let you pin items so they appear in the upper right of your screen showing what’s needed and how many of those items you’re carrying. Scanner room fabricator doesn’t do this, but you can open your PDA and pin from the items listed there.

eternal garnet
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pinning was backported to SN

eternal garnet
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ha

steel shoal
tacit thorn
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and seatruck, some hate it, some like it.

eternal garnet
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you win.

topaz sonnet
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ok, but do i scan other seatruck parts again?

chrome cedar
eternal garnet
tacit thorn
topaz sonnet
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ik where is deep twisty,purple vents, but lilypads?

eternal garnet
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lilypads is south of purple vents. The green biome

steel shoal
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True, however we should have gotten a portable fridge, as we don't need to storage food when in your base

topaz sonnet
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well i dont really understa,nd bc if i look wrong side from purple vents i could go to any other ways.

tacit thorn