below-zero-chat

[eternal garnet]

baked-batch-cells-20-grp0

you didnt save after delete

probably not

[sleek timber]

no

the game was completely closed when I was deleting

[eternal garnet]

oh wait.

Cloud sync. Open the game. NOW delete the file, which you should find is back again

cloud sync will restore it, if the game is closed. I forgot about it

is -20 back in there?

[sleek timber]

wait lemme DM you

[proper wren]

I'm going to chat here just to say

I TRUCKING love the Seatruck!

I'm new to BZ and I intentionally did little research to avoid spoilers and I just made the seatruck along with the fabricator module and storage module. I love it.

I love just carrying cargo around. While most of the time it's for a good reason I sometimes just like going around while carrying cargo. It just makes me happy.

[thick chasm]

Hii I forgot to tell you but I found the spiral plant when I played last time thank you

[proper wren]

There better be plans to add the Seatruck to standard Subnautica along with it's cool dock

[storm imp]

don't think there are plans to

and it already has the seamoth and cyclops, which I like better than the seatruck.

[eternal garnet]

I don't think any visible changes are planned

[little haven]

Seamoth feels more like a smoother and smaller seatruck

|| Now to find the snowfox and kyanite now that I can last more than 1 minute in the cold ||

[brazen crow]

Also just outside ||phi labs|| I think

I just went in the ||snow stalker cave|| and picked it up

[proper wren]

I wish it's storage compartments weren't separate.

[proper wren]

Ehh cyclops takes forever to build and is slower while the seamoth's storage module system makes me want to eat a gasopod gas ball.

I guess I just like heavily modular transports that are average at everything, but not terrible/excellent at anything.

[storm imp]

cyclops is more durable and can carry significantly more stuff without slowing down

feels like you're driving a nice big submarine instead of a clumsy scrap heap imo

[proper wren]

Cyclops is too big and slow for my liking

[storm imp]

seatruck is only faster if you have an afterburner, and even then that's not much faster than ahead flank iirc

both can only be used in bursts

[proper wren]

clumsy scrap heap

😱 You take that back!

[storm imp]

only times I enjoyed using the seatruck were ||ramming into various sharks|| and ||sending shadow leviathans scurrying back into the void with pd||

[little haven]

Afterburner goes about 12-13 speed units a second compared to seaglide's 7-10 ish

[storm imp]

compared to cyclops 12-13 at ahead flank

[little haven]

And compared to about 3-6 for base player speed but afterburner ignores armor / tank speed penalties

Cyclops feels more like the mobile base I was looking for imo, compared to the seatruck that is sorta clunky to use if needing to go around spaces

[storm imp]

yeah, hard to get enough storage to use the seatruck as a mobile base

and you're limited to its various modules

[little haven]

Fun tip do not go || looking for artifiact tissue without the cold suit. I almost freaking died and barely got saved picking peppers and spam eating them just as my screen flashed white ||

Yeah, and modules slow too

[proper wren]

Yeah but to be fair EVERYTHING was slow in BZ to compensate for the smaller map. I’m sure if the cyclops was added to BZ it would be slower and if the Seatruck was added to Standard Subnautica it would be faster.

[little haven]

i suppose, I was wondering what was with the edge being just about 1000 ish units off

[storm imp]

the prawn suit was made faster for bz

I once got a burst of 40 speed on land with it

[little haven]

That's nice at least if I want to get more || ion cubes || from the || alien mining site ||

[storm imp]

easily gets 20-30+ just by jumping and moving forward

[proper wren]

I personally like to use ||Fabricator Module & Storage Module|| in that order

Very much like the almighty Fred, the Seatruck Grandmaster’s seatruck setup.

[little haven]

If I ever somehow need more titanium I might use that...

Given that I now have a locker and a half full of condensed titanium from having to get the stuff I dropped in || sam's room || for convenience while I went to pursue the || storyline for alan's stuff ||

[brazen crow]

Fr tho is there a Seatruck fabricator module?

[storm imp]

yes

[midnight swan]

The what truck?

Eh i wont question it

[brazen crow]

Omg sorry

[little haven]

|| Vehicle modification station / Moonpool ||

Good thing || snow stalkers || don't know much about height difference

[coral lotus]

there a new creature???

[storm imp]

||snow stalkers||? don't think they're new.

[coral lotus]

idk what it is I never seen it before

it's in the water right next to my base

[storm imp]

oh in your game, not the screenshot

[coral lotus]

yeah

[storm imp]

can you send a screenshot?

[coral lotus]

I try

oh wait it's just a cryptosuchus the sound throw me off I thought it was something new

[storm imp]

ah

[upper lodge]

The grappling arm certainly wasn't

[next current]

A small price to pay.

[midnight swan]

I feel… betrayed.

I went to greet an old friend, but was surprised by an imposter.

I am sad now

[glossy lance]

Erm

What does that mean

[eternal garnet]

the grappling arm is an imposter. Or the prawn maybe

[midnight swan]

I thought it was my good friend sandstone, but no. Calavryatirite or whatevr.

Also why will the jukebox only play one song

[eternal garnet]

you have to find more cds in the world. White

Don't treat BZ as SN2. It's its own thing

oh, on PC it can also play your mp3s

[midnight swan]

I know, they just look exactly alike

[midnight swan]

Noo

[eternal garnet]

some are Very Good

[midnight swan]

No, only one is good

[eternal garnet]

Diving In Too Deep is great

[midnight swan]

Rite of the Deep

Rite of the Deep

Rite of rhe Deep top tier

[glossy lance]

How many of yall got the subnautica desktop backround

[eternal garnet]

ha, me. The aurora one

[midnight swan]

What is it called

[next current]

Yes.

[pliant jetty]

I had the "happy holidays" one for a bit, with a christmas tree in a multifunction room

[cunning finch]

Please dont tell me sea monkeys change their behaviour if you hurt them-
I accidentally hit one with my sea truck, and when i got out to check if it was ok, they started giving me gifts, and im scared i accidentally bullied them a bit-

[pliant jetty]

I took the prawn with ion cells.

[little haven]

"upgrade to Mk.II to make the most of tears"

So basically that one girl in every scary movie is gonna be a walking fountain with the stillsuit...

[steel stream]

They do change their behavior, but it's bot related to you hurting them, it's something else. Spoiled in case you don't want to know ||when Al-An is in your head, monkeys give you gifts, without him, they steal your hand held tool||

[cunning finch]

Oh phew
Still feel bad about hurting one, but a little less bad now

[steel stream]

Also seatruck seems to do quite a lot of damage when hitting creatures: for example monkeys and some other creatures can die from a single hit

[carmine bobcat]

What's the quickest way to ||crystal caves||

[bold monolith]

Purple Vents, then Deep Purple Vents.

[short thicket]

Nah from ||maida|| is very fast

[real oxide]

That pingling be like: man im outa here boi

[elder merlin]

Is there any map that shows || crystal caves|| and || fabrication caverns||?

I want to see how that looks

[midnight dust]

The devs should add a seatruck weapon module

[sleek timber]

did you play through the first game?

most people prefer the cyclops from the base game

[pliant jetty]

Do seamonkeys take knives?

I never got to test this before ||Alan|| mugged me of the ability to arm the monkeys

[pliant jetty]

I actually, don't know where I stand on this. I'm took my cyclops one one trip, parked it up and left it there forever. The sea truck I used more despite enjoying less

[sleek timber]

Seamoth has 16 slots of storage per compartment, which can be installed and removed whenever you need, giving up to 64 slots total. One seatruck storage module has 72 slots, and comes with all the disadvantages of having a storage module attached

[pliant jetty]

I enjoy a short seatruck, say just the fabricator?

[real oxide]

you mean zap? or a gun? they will never add guns

[pliant jetty]

The moment it's centre of pivot gets further back it feels awful to drive

[sleek timber]

In the base game I used to have one seamoth in "assault configuration" and another one in storage configuration, and sometimes I used one for all purposes

[pliant jetty]

It should be a floppy noodle boy, I can't help but feel that was the original intention

Storage one, with every box filled with ||crabsquid|| is both

[elder merlin]

after Obraxis prime massacre they will not add any weapon except survival knife

[sleek timber]

what you can do is have a seamoth with depth/sonar/defence and a single storage module containing 3 more storage modules. So you have your normal configuration for exploring, but if you're running out of inventory space you can just install the other storage modules as needed

seatruck has its own advantages, like being able to label the storage and temporarily detach it, but in general I think seamoth is better

especially considering that for hauling trips in SN you have the cyclops, which can be filled to the brim with lockers

[sleek timber]

a lot of people seem to share this mentality, but I personally love the feeling of piloting this massive sub around the map, so I've done quite a lot of trips with it

but to each their own

[pliant jetty]

But, I can't make it my home as I'm very aware reapers will eat it

Also, that power consumption is brutal

[sleek timber]

just don't go where reapers are lol

[pliant jetty]

But that's where the fun nightlife is!

[elder merlin]

I hate seatruck because in fabricator module i can't put more lockers and i must have one locker and one fabricator, when on cyclop you can build mega base in it

[sleek timber]

also, pretty sure they don't attack if you're outside of it

[pliant jetty]

Reapers know how to party

[sleek timber]

and fun fact: even if your cyclops is on 5% hp and on fire, it will never be destroyed as long as you're not inside it
it only takes damage while you're inside

[pliant jetty]

Also, you can't grow food

Sea truck hydroponics when?

[elder merlin]

yea, or charging battery when you forgot to charge it before trip

[pliant jetty]

The best thing about cyclops was the plant pots, the worst thing was no bio reactor

Bio-clops would have been badass

[elder merlin]

I would really appreciate cyclop in new subnautica

[pliant jetty]

Now, if it has coop

[elder merlin]

that would be so overpowered

[pliant jetty]

No guns, subnautica shouldn't be about guns (loads corrosive torpedoes into my sea tank)

[pliant jetty]

Are you serious?

I've freaked out about it getting nudged while I was away so often

This is very not try with seamoths

I never left my seatruck anywhere but in its dock

That or a nook somewhere

[sleek timber]

ok so I'm pretty sure cyclops can't get damaged from impacts with terrain, so it's just the hostile fish that can damage it, but AFAIK they never target it if you're not inside

[elder merlin]

imagine shooting sea monkeys after they gave you titan instead of gold

[violet aspen]

They can actually

[sleek timber]

I know with the seatruck fish don't damage it even while you're inside, as long as you're not at the helm
not sure if that's the case for cyclops

[pliant jetty]

I asked for table coral!

[sleek timber]

hmm, I spent like 10 minutes outside of a cyclops (with its engine on) and a reaper swimming around it, and nothing happened
reaper just ignored it

[pliant jetty]

*pulls out knife *

[elder merlin]

This happens with every vehicle

I am very curious about the plot that was before the final one in below zero

like cargo rocket instead of || turning on test mode in antenna||

[pliant jetty]

Can you skip the|| antenna|| quest?

It seemed pointless, I just did it to|| talk to marg more ||

I'd already ||cured the levvy||hope ||he makes a full recovery ||

[midnight dust]

You forgot about one thing there

[proper wren]

Yes but you're giving up depth modules and perimeter defense modules and other useful modules in exchange for a almost the same storage as the seatruck module.

[sleek timber]

true, but it's sufficient for small resource gathering trips

the only essential module is depth, and even then, if you're really desperate you can bring the seamoth above crush depth and replace the module for storage there so that you can get back to base

[proper wren]

That’s fair honestly

In fact I plan to use Seamoths as a cargo transport in this “singular 100% subnautica save file” but that’s a topic for #subnautica-chat

[brazen crow]

After what?

[lime grove]

obraxis prime massacre

[midnight swan]

It’s mentioned by the PDA in the first game after you craft the survival knife

[brazen crow]

Didn't find such a thing in bz... good thing I ||kept my ion cubes on me||

[brazen crow]

Ooh right

SN devs: you're not meant to go around killing the wildlife
SN madmen with a knife and a freeze gun:

BZ devs: WHAT I SAID--

[storm imp]

no stasis rifle in bz tho

[next current]

Too op.

[west mountain]

@sleek timber could you fix the problem with the ||AlAn Transfer|| yesterday?

[sleek timber]

I didn't get back to it yet, but no

tried a couple more things that meatie recommended, but didn't work

[west mountain]

That is worring

[sleek timber]

meh, it's whatever

the game still works, the save still loads

I'll probably just start another save and quickly complete the game again to see the ending

how long will it take now that I know where everything is and won't get lost/sidetracked?

like 4 hours maybe?

[latent mantle]

Well considering the material collecting for the necessary items and vehicles I'd say at the very least if you have a good pc or whatever you play on 2 to 3 hours

Because you dont have to go after all the other little blueprints for other stuff

The what the dock one?

In #announcements there is a guide on how to fix it

From donya

You have steam version of bz?

Alright then yeah this will probably fix it

Np

Hope it fixes it

[latent mantle]

Well one thing I want to say is I upgraded my pc 4 weeks after the update and my previous pc couldn't load it so I had to go back to legacy bz and I switched it back after it loaded again and then it was fine

Maybe try that to see if that can get the update to work for you

But if it doesn't work then darn

Oh nevermind then

[midnight swan]

Seatruck dock

Wait

GASP

[latent mantle]

Funny thing is I didn't get the blueprint when I had to reroll back to legacy thats why I switched it back to the normal

Well at least you got the luck of the draw

Glad I could be of service🫡

[midnight swan]

Best part is i know some spanish and j understand that

[latent mantle]

Wait does that mean that Robin is an imposter she lied to ||Alan when he asked if she was with alterra and said no||

New lore unlocked

Lol

[midnight swan]

She also lied ti ||marguerit|| saying she wasnt from alterra

But i dont think robin is from alterra right

She has the Xenoworx pda and stufff

Nevermind she is with alterra

[latent mantle]

Well alterra did buy xenworx

[midnight swan]

Idk the full lore

[midnight swan]

Ohhhhhhhh ok

[latent mantle]

One of the PDA logs from Sam said that she heard that alterra bought xenoworx and she said well I guess welcome to the alterra family

Its the sam pda you get when you get to the delta station

Well anyways I gtg

[elder merlin]

I have ended BZ and I hate that there are only achievements with plot, not others like collecting this cute little guy(I forgot his name) in SN

[little haven]

Filled to the Brim
Have a locker full of plastel ingots.

[carmine bobcat]

Oop

[somber canyon]

jesus christ, this was the first time i used the seaglide in this specific game 💀

i somehow survived though

[next current]

Well I mean... there's one for building a Jukebox.

[little haven]

Now if only we can put the pengling in the base and get it to dance

[midnight swan]

First thing i did in my first bz survival world is took 4 penglings and put them in my pod storage hehe

[west mountain]

Aquarium

[steel stream]

Other achievements which are not necessary for getting to the end ||snow fox, radio tower, antidote||

[real oxide]

will it damage me in creative. if yes pls help

[midnight swan]

Probably not

I have tested vehicles in creative (normal subnautica), and reapers still attack them (at least cyclops), but deal no damage.

[real oxide]

ok thanks

[steel stream]

Although it won't do damage, the grappling attack can be a nuisance...

[runic crater]

Hi guys has anyone had the same problem as me and know how to fix it?

[eternal garnet]

so could you state a problem?

[runic crater]

in the photo

[eternal garnet]

yeah, no

[fading magnet]

I had it but when i opened the xbox app on pc it showed me that i have to install it i dont know why ot was unninstaled but the icon was still there

[midnight swan]

I’m stuck and upset

I cant reach the ||pilot last known location||

Can anyone help

[storm imp]

...your game crashes?

[runic crater]

yes

[storm imp]

lotta things that could cause that

[elder merlin]

stuck where?

[eternal garnet]

and why not? Also what game store

[midnight swan]

In the game progression i mean

[midnight swan]

I cant find a way to get down to it

[eternal garnet]

you can get to the beacon, yes? You want the 300m truck max depth, else it gets real difficult

Near the beacon, below, there's a trench with glowing wall plants. Follow those, and o2 plants and light sticks ||North-West, down to 360m.||

[midnight swan]

How di i get seatruck?

[eternal garnet]

scan fragments just south of the pod, or around delta island (in the water)

You also need the vehicle bay, to build it in

[midnight swan]

How do i get the vehicle bayyyyyy

[eternal garnet]

So the pilot beacon can wait a bit

[midnight swan]

Yeah i guess

[eternal garnet]

Find that in monkey nests, and also on the sand in twisty bridges

Always scan all monkey nests

[midnight swan]

But theres monkeys?

Oh wait ive been to a monkey nest before

[eternal garnet]

sea monkeys

[midnight swan]

I didnt scan it

[eternal garnet]

their nests are in kelp root caves

They collect machine parts

[midnight swan]

Probably the worst thing currently is that j can only have a standard o2 tank

It’s frustrating ti say the least

[eternal garnet]

yes. The large tank is in twisty bridge canyon, at 120m exactly, by a small building

another important item at a little crane at 170m

[midnight swan]

Alright i have the blueprint for seatruck

Finally

[dense musk]

I have a question
I have a save for below zero on one computer and want to transfer the save to my new computer
what would be the best way to go about doing so

I have it on steam if that helps

[next current]

If you have the game on Steam, your save should be uploaded to the Steam cloud.

So yeah.

[dense musk]

ok lemme try doing something with that

got it on my new computer, thanks

just had to wait for the cloud save to update

first launch just had no saves so i thought I had to do something more

[eternal garnet]

steam should fix that, but it is also possible to copy manually

to check, close BZ, reopen

oh, if you haven't played BZ since the seatruck dock update, back then steam cloud sync was disabled. Then you need manual copy

[little haven]

That's... actually nice in case if I get tired of using the deck and want to try it on pc.

[little haven]

I wonder if they'll attack anyone that has the || kharaa bacterium ||

[weak raven]

hey does anyone know if you can do update suppression in sub BZ

[knotty mist]

are the titan hole fish related to the small hole fish in main subnautica

[vast idol]

Yeah

I think?

[storm imp]

oh lawd

[cunning finch]

Hey so
Where does one get a parallel processing unit?
Did i miss it somewhere in delta or ||maida's base||?

[knotty mist]

i mean it would make sense

[little haven]

|| Check the stern / bow wrecks ||

|| But you need laser cutter to access them ||

[bold monolith]

It depends. ||There are 6 fragments total. 3 of them are accessible without the laser cutter.||

[vast idol]

is it untextured?

[weak raven]

void base

and a daily does of void creatures

[knotty mist]

where is the habitat builder

[bold monolith]

5 fragments.

Koppa Mining Site, Outpost Zero, Delta Island, Twisty Bridges.

[knotty mist]

the habitat builder has 5 fragments??

[bold monolith]

Yes. You need one to unlock it.

[knotty mist]

ohh

thanks

[tacit comet]

This is substantially more than a daily dose.

[knotty mist]

Shift + enter

np

[weak raven]

lol

[knotty mist]

so i have no idea how the se truck dock works

can i connect it to a multi purpose room?

nvm

[echo salmon]

And the sea emperor juveniles and babies

[mortal rock]

oh really?

i will try to do this

[uneven vector]

i have a question which may be dumb but uh
will subnautica 3 be a continuation of below zero?

[steel stream]

No one knows yet

[carmine bobcat]

where do u find the cold suit

?

[west mountain]

The scan is inside phi robotics

[deep kettle]

The mini bar strikes again D:

[bold monolith]

Again?

[lime grove]

the counter is the real enemy

[bold monolith]

Is it a leviathan in disguise?

[deep kettle]

I find it hard to believe that no one else has previously done the exact same thing. But no I do not have evidence to back this up 😆

[short thicket]

get that suit

[bold monolith]

You can also grab heat fruits, make the salad, or use a vehicle.

You're insensitive to cold while on the snowfox for instance.

[steel stream]

You need to build the hoverpad first (with habitat builder), then use the hoverpad to build snowfox

You can pick the snowfox in your inventory

Hoverpad charges and repairs it while it's docked

[bold monolith]

That is peculiar.

Are you on Mac?

[steel stream]

Snowfox only works on land

[bold monolith]

It's a "two seconds before disaster" type of screenshot.

[clever crow]

ice worm only works on land

[midnight swan]

What drops diamonds

[clever crow]

diamonds

[midnight swan]

What biome are they found in

Can anyone except the wiki help me

I obly need 2 (for seatruck depth module)

[midnight swan]

Ok so i’ve been trying to get to koppa mining site but i dont know how

[vast idol]

The old women cave I think

[mint badger]

Just finished my bases in the fab caves and in the void. Going back to the OG subnautica now to make a void/dunes observatory

[steel stream]

Deep twisty bridges, you can manage with high capacity tank amd rebreather as there are some oxygen plants. Park your seatruck around 140-150 meter and start diving from there

[lethal elm]

should i go to the ||pilots last known location|| instantly

[midnight swan]

Never. Do not. I tried it and j died. Get a seatruck or smth first.

[lethal elm]

yeahyeah i already have a seatruck with a fabricater module

[eternal garnet]

go when you got the 300m depth upgrade

[lethal elm]

ok

should there be anything i should avoid

[eternal garnet]

not there

[weary idol]

It’s like a giant ear wig

[tacit thorn]

build single corridor and hatch, inside its warmer

[regal gate]

is there some way I can play the old story on steam

[midnight swan]

I dont even have ||Al-An|| yet

The sea monkeys can always bring you items?

I dont think thats true

[storm imp]

pretty sure it does

[midnight swan]

Yeah frim what i know you have tk have ||Al-An|| and find a bunch of ||Artifacts|| to ||mind control sea monkeys||

[lime grove]

you only need to have it for them to give items

[eternal garnet]

Yes! in game properties, betas, enter code belowzeroearlyaccess. EA8 recommended (in the list)

[west mountain]

Seamonkey only start to bring you stuff once you have ||AlAn|| and they stop when you ||transfer him into his new body||.

[little haven]

|| Sea monkeys are probably a part of the alan family if they bring gifts over like you the king in old times or something. ||

[final reef]

Hey there... do you have any tips on how to get the spiral plant clipping? i dont know where to go to get some... but i'd be happy to have some haha

[little haven]

|| Go to the big jellyfish looking thing that doesn't move and swim up the dome area to find lots of spiral plants on there. || Or alternatively swim around 300-600 m ish and hope for a spawn.

It's a grayish looking plant iirc and can be hit twice for samples and can also be farmed

[final reef]

but aint there mean ||chelicerate|| thingies there too?

[final reef]

in what biome?

[little haven]

They're not inside the big creature, but you might need to be careful around it

[final reef]

hm...

[little haven]

Tree spires

[final reef]

can i find them in the ||deeper twisty brigdes||?

[little haven]

Nope.

[final reef]

but there are the ||leviathans?||

[little haven]

Some || hostile ones such as chelicerate || yeah.

Otherwise check the sea beds in the tree spires

[final reef]

do you recommend taking the prawn or the sea truck`?

[mystic trench]

Take the sea truck with the docked prawn

[final reef]

Wait, you can dock the prawn to the truck?

how do i manage that? 😅

[lime grove]

docking module

[mystic trench]

There is a module that u can scan that let’s u dock if. It doesn’t charge it though

[final reef]

Where can I find that module?

Sorry for the many questions btw 😅

[lime grove]

deep purple vents iirc

[final reef]

iirc?

[lime grove]

If I recall correctly

[final reef]

Ah

Thanks for the help lads :)

[midnight swan]

How do I get rebreather?

Can someone give me a map to the data box

[west mountain]

In twisty bridges by the crane platform next to the ||blinking green alien marker||

[midnight swan]

Is the crane platform the one with the cable hanging down?

[west mountain]

No, deeper 160m

[eternal garnet]

no, but it's not far, below

the cable hangs from the shark cage

[midnight swan]

Ok, i’ll do my best to find it

[west mountain]

Remember the spot where you find the rebreather and look at the blinking green lights

[midnight swan]

Ok

[carmine bobcat]

okok does someone know where exactly to go from the drop pod for the cold suit someone answered my question but i cant remember who so yea

[west mountain]

Cold suit fragment is in phi robotics. The location of phi robotics is marked on the alterra facilities map from delta station. Its the one in the west. On land.

[steel stream]

And I think the cold suit is still further west from phi robotics, on another site...

[little haven]

I'm pretty sure the cold suit is in phi but in || Zeta's bedroom across from Sam's || near the aquarium.

It's a good thing it's much easier to get than the suit from || Mercury 2 ||

[tacit thorn]

any idea if grav traps affect leviathans?

[little haven]

Only lil fishies and objects.

[tacit thorn]

8k project in progress. caged 3 void fishies

[midnight swan]

Nice!

[eternal garnet]

if you leave, do they stay?

[tacit thorn]

so far, yes. Do not know the despawn distance yet.
It will be... a surprise

[eternal garnet]

it's less than 300m

[midnight swan]

Your base is always loaded (at least in normal suvnautica, so i assume bz too)

[eternal garnet]

yes, but I suspect void levi's could despawn

beause they spawn on demand (you being near)

[midnight swan]

Thats probavly true bc thats how subnautica’s void fishies work too

[tacit thorn]

at 750m deep mark now

aaaand the fishies escaped

[clever crow]

I wish we could eat rockgrubs and it would make us glow a little

[midnight swan]

I didnt know rockgrubs were in bz, but i do like those guys

[little haven]

Yeah the inedible tiny green things

No idea why they're in bz tbh

[eternal garnet]

they feed the rock punchers

[midnight swan]

Cool

[tacit thorn]

So, anybody has any idea how to build vertically down, while staying inside base?

[tough oak]

why

wont that cause lag

[west mountain]

Nop, so far did not find a way to do it

[tough oak]

normal subnautica already feels too laggy

[uneven nest]

Real

[tacit thorn]

does moonpool+prawn work on dry land?

[mystic trench]

Good question

[crisp sparrow]

Was invisible cmd removed/made nonfunctional in bz

[west mountain]

No you cannot build a moonpool on land

[little haven]

I love below zero wiki

|| Source: Unlocked when a Sea Money takes an item from the player ||

[tacit thorn]

what does it unlock?

[little haven]

|| A personal log pda entry. ||

[tacit thorn]

Lol, at 800m deep mark the rock wall of the map border has a recess. I can just swim out of leviathan range and be safe

[pliant jetty]

They are all kahraa infected AF and you just can't tell 😆

[pliant jetty]

I've bad brute sharks inside

[pliant jetty]

Maybe they were a controllable labourer like ||Those bug fellas on the citadel|| in mass effect?

[little haven]

Hmm

[pliant jetty]

They pick up ||Alan's signal noise from your prosthetics|| and get back to their pre programmed mission

[little haven]

Ah.

[pliant jetty]

The note about them having no fear flagged them as suspicious tbh

I almost considered them candidates for ||Alan's ancestors|| until that seemed less obvious

You wouldn't have your mass produced labourers feel pain or fear

In a way, they could be the games ||warpers|| just with a different mission

If you dump tame sea monkeys in an area will they gift you resources?

Are the resources area specific

It might be the ideal way to make a void base

Build a shark cage cage of corridors, release the sea monkeys.

Then revisit them occasionally for more stuff,

[little haven]

The resources are either randomized or if you pin bps with their respective resource mostly

[sour narwhal]

We're so y'all find spiral plant chippings

Btw I got Subnautica below zero

I was the guy who didn't want spoilers lol

I found the shrimp...

And I tried to hug him but he hugged me a little to hard..

[midnight swan]

I found a hug boi and it hugged my seatruck

[broken badge]

Either purple vents, or the ventgardens (the big static ones that don’t move, you have to enter where there’s a vent valve on the underside)

[runic gazelle]

yay

[weak raven]

oh you managed to get down to that level, do you know how I could safely get down there.

[tacit thorn]

1. ||The spot I started at has a shelf circa 550m deep, so you can build while out of range there. Just go to ventgarden and find the lowest point of the void edge. Might get photos later.||
2. ||I built a cage and captured 3 void lobsters, which gave me circa 100m more of building before they warped to my location||
3. ||Just ran up the ladder to deaggro them, tele-ladder down, swim with seasprint, build 2-3 vertical sections, run to hatch, repeat||
   You could, theoretically, just sprint it with truck vertically down, if you are in the correct location.

[jolly basin]

What’s circa

[jolly basin]

Is it a different spot to this one?
#below-zero-chat message

[midnight swan]

I wish the ice dragon made it into bz

[tacit thorn]

It might be the very overhang I found, yes.
Circa means "around, approximate"

is there some magical key to turn off fog in below zero? trying to give pic of my current location

[icy coyote]

Commands

[tacit thorn]

My deep dive base location: South from vengraden and delta island, you can see the distance on becaon

Bottom of the cliff looks like this. the foundations are safe space, the extending corridor is not.

[eternal garnet]

command: fog

[tacit thorn]

635m to 800m has a cliff face, but can be traversed in truck

[tacit thorn]

there is something that has been bothering me story-wise.
The smart aliens set an outpost to ||find cure for khaara, and they had to use leviathan eggs to synthesize cure||
Yet, Sam, the protagonist sister, ||whipped out an antidote using basic facility lab, in her spare time|| WTF?

[steel stream]

Maybe in 2 years Alterra has gained some knowledge ||being able to study cured fish||?

They were also doing ||genetic modification on kharaa...|| of course we don't know what ||the architects had been researching and for how long||

[clever crow]

ryley told them probably, no?

also funny how ||antidote|| is just 2 plants

[tacit thorn]

Maybe she had some data she stole from alterra, but still, it seems fishy (hehe) that an mechtronics engineer, not a biologist, managed to make a counteragent that took aliens who knows how long to produce.

[clever crow]

sam was too op for this world

[tacit thorn]

lets just handwave the recipe as devs putting in way to get more if we misplace the original

[clever crow]

and parvan's art skills were too good to so he was killed off with her

[tacit thorn]

Grav trap is the most useful tool in the game.
Have trouble catching fish? Grav trap.
Ore not clickable because its below your feet? Grav trap.
Ore out of reach on land? Grav trap.
Outcrop or salvage stuck inside wall? Grav trap.

[elder merlin]

2 years after ryley || hatched leviathan eggs, enzyme 42 || was everywhere on planet 4546B and sam just collected a part of it

[tacit thorn]

Ok, that makes sense

[tacit thorn]

My 8k base in works. Truck loading bay at 999m

[polar sundial]

hee hee

I bet I have more fish

Hold on

Im going to my secondary base

it has my fish

my main base is in crystal caves

ima just use tether tool rq

[tacit thorn]

Barely half as deep, and I'm only starting

[polar sundial]

oh ok

yea...

uhm

theres maybe a bit over 100

of just jellyfish....

[pliant jetty]

They good eatin?

[polar sundial]

im not eating them

you cant even

bahahaha

takes me about a minute and a half to get across my base

my god

[tacit thorn]

so fishies = lag?

[elder merlin]

Yes

[tacit thorn]

Funny. I would expect that part to be optimized, in a game about fish.

[jolly basin]

With this mod could make an even bigger one

[tacit thorn]

still limited by 1k crush depth

1,1k now, going deep

[weak raven]

yoo is that a base on the bottom of the void

[tacit thorn]

going to be, yes

how do I turn on/off the headlamp? it seems to have stopped shining

[lime grove]

if you have it equipped it makes light

[tacit thorn]

somehow managed to turn it off, because it doesn't shine

[eternal garnet]

F? left click? I forget

[tacit thorn]

Praise the wiki, its rightlick when not holding a build tool

Good thing the depth penalties are linear not geometric, or this build would get... interesting

[tacit thorn]

99 intergity is not going to last long that deep 😕

[cunning finch]

||Is it possible to tame a snow stalker or is that just another maida moment?||

[tacit thorn]

try feeding them purple fruit and report what happens

[cunning finch]

Hey so is there an actual building at the place marked as phi on the map? Or is it just the bridge? Cause im running around this wannabe manitoba, and im on my last fevered peeper

[tacit thorn]

there is a whole base in the cave. go deeper into the land

also cavesa are warmer

[midnight swan]

Theres stalkers in bz?

[cunning finch]

there's so many caves which cave
||You mean the one with the portal?? Cause i didnt see much eose down there||

[tacit thorn]

you have the map, right? the bridge is the two yellow blips above the green marker. So go south-south-west from the bridge

[weak raven]

ok I found an easy way to get through walls

it just takes a very long pipe structure and move before the walls can load back

[cunning finch]

you mean it was never past the bridge to begin with?"

[tacit thorn]

uh, no. past the bridge is unlocked area way after you explore the phi outpost. You explored it before traversing bridge, right?

[cunning finch]

Nope

[weak raven]

also oooooof 2400 meters

[cunning finch]

I unlocked the bridge, and then ran around from fevered peeper tree to fevered peeper tree

[tacit thorn]

take prawn with you, makes exploration safer. also warm cosy seat

[tacit thorn]

deep?

[cunning finch]

Oh i left that at home lol

[weak raven]

the void is that deep

[tacit thorn]

pretty sure its deeper

[weak raven]

mmm dont think so

if only

[tacit thorn]

are you in the void, or under map?

[weak raven]

void

im thinking of making an ugly tunnel with strong walls so I can protect the building when I hit the bottom

[eternal garnet]

The void is bottomless in some places

[tacit thorn]

hope my spot is one of them. Won't know for a while, 800m until 2400mark

[weak raven]

ok one way we could get down there is by glitching through the wall and building a tube down aaand because you're behind the wall the void creatures won't attack you. this picture is a proof of concept

[tacit thorn]

you may also get lucky and find a spot where the void wall has a recess so you can hide from fishy

[weak raven]

where are you building down into the void

@tacit thorn

[tacit thorn]

Oh, thats very simple. I want to build a large room base with glass roof at maximum crush penalty the game engine allows me. Heard the limit it approx 8k before the map loops back.

And the void is the only spot that goes deeper than red crystal caves

[weak raven]

well which side of the map are you build down from

[tacit thorn]

currently at ventgarden. Was the lowest void edge

[weak raven]

because if you are building from the vent gardens it has no bottom

[tacit thorn]

no bottom is good

[weak raven]

nice

my idea is a bit more simple

just get to the floor of the void and build a base

[tacit thorn]

there is a possibility I will run out of titanium before getting to the bottom of this

[weak raven]

oh you will

then you will spend 5 hours restocking then run out again

tis the cycle of Subnautica

[tacit thorn]

No, I mean run out of titanium on whole map

[weak raven]

oh dont worry the map reloads the minerals

[tacit thorn]

it doesn't they don't regenerate

[west mountain]

Nop no free minerals. Gone is gone.

[weak raven]

I must have a weird game

or im not phrasing this right

[tacit thorn]

playing creative perhaps? free building and such?

[weak raven]

no im in survival

[broken badge]

There’s also custom game options, with free building cost. A few possibilities actually

Oh and mods, if you have any

[weak raven]

normally after a long time a new deposit of titanium will pop up in the area

[broken badge]

That’s definitely not normal vanilla game behavior

[tacit thorn]

sounds like a mod

[weak raven]

im 100% sure that its vanilla without custom on

[west mountain]

It only happened after the seatruck update. Certain world chunks where updated and respawned.

Anything else means your game is broken

[weak raven]

no I worked on my base after the seatruck update

[broken badge]

You showed examples of this back in October, where you had multiple copies of pictures Willow. So something is definitely up with your game, modded or something

[weak raven]

oh my game did copy but only ones after the update

[tacit thorn]

slowly getting there

[weak raven]

nice

[tacit thorn]

6k more to go. At this pace I may have to disasemble my cages.

what is the in-game length of vertical connector? 2m? 3m tall?

[broken badge]

Most character human/humanoid character models are based on roughly a 6ft or whatever metric equivalent person. Idk about for these games, but you could probably use that for a character model sort rough equivalent (not sure if Robin’s model is any different than Ryley’s, in terms of height)

[tacit thorn]

well, we have 'depth' indicator, so it can be used for direct measurement?

[broken badge]

True, more or less

[tacit thorn]

30 segments give vertical difference of 105m, so segment is 3,5m tall?

So I only need 3500 titanium at minimum to get down to 8k, most likely more for all the reinforcements.

[eternal garnet]

man, just cheat the resources. Or even custom game mode

[uncut lantern]

my snow fox literally respawned under the terrain

[eternal garnet]

it happens. Can you load a save?

[uncut lantern]

i died

[polar sundial]

mine blew up bc weather

[polar sundial]

how tf

[polar sundial]

no, my base size

my surface water base is about 500 meters

[bold monolith]

This is just wrong.

[pliant jetty]

You don't need to farm resources, just ||breed and release sea monkeys, they'll|| bring you resources.

[carmine bobcat]

That's possible?

[bold monolith]

As long as you don't progress too far in the story.

[sleek timber]

no, you just misunderstand it

what it means is:
stop playing for 4-5 days so that you forget the map, and that way when you come back and go collecting resources again, you'll go to a new area and think "wow I'm sure I've been here, but all the stuff has respawned!"

[sleek timber]

legit happened to me in SN

I found and cleared out one of those massive coral tubes in safe shallows (the ones with tons of sandstone and quartz), but there's like 4 of them total

so when I found another one I assumed it was the same one and thought "huh, all the stuff is back"

[lethal spoke]

how get

[lime grove]

how get what

[lethal spoke]

We should nuke the planet of my little pony

How are peepers even thriving they don't even have any thing that works on their anatomy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/943897468427464714.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

death korp of krieg

[sleek timber]

they have an eye

what more do you need?

[lethal spoke]

Ball

[sleek timber]

||Ion Cubes|| are non-renewable, but required to complete the story, right? So is there a theoretical scenario where the player consumes/loses all of them and doesn't have one left for the final task?

[clever crow]

I think they aren’t required in bz,|| Alan doesn’t need them, right||?

[sleek timber]

one is required for crafting

[west mountain]

Correct, but highly unlikely. Same goes for kelp root pustules. If you use them ALL in your biorecactor, you dont have one left for ||AlAn||

[west mountain]

Also did you notice that the ||Organs place in cristal cavern|| is the only major architect site that does NOT have an ion cube to pick up. Exactly that place where you need it the most 😦. How sneaky from the BZ devs 🙂

[sleek timber]

interesting

but I'm sure that, like with all of the other resources, for all intents and purposes there's more than enough in BZ to complete the story if you follow a more-or-less normal playstyle that doesn't involve going out of your way to find and spend every single instance of a specific resource

although in case of ||ion cubes||, using them all up is not too far-fetched

[west mountain]

with the drillables ones? And the only item that does consume them is the teather tool. Very unlikely.

[sleek timber]

||depending on how many you get from large resource deposits, there's 45-69 ion cubes on the map. So if one collects them all after unlocking ion batteries and cells, and gets excited at the prospect of having super efficient energy source, one may be tempted to craft all the cubes into ion batteries and cells, leaving none to complete the story||

[west mountain]

But you can always deconstruct a battery in the recyclotron, even if you use all ion cubes. Again, the only way to destroy an ion cube is the teather tool.

[sleek timber]

need a a cube to build a recyclotron, so you can only deconstruct if you already have one built

[west mountain]

Well, then you are f****

[sleek timber]

lol

still purely theoretical though

I'm not sure if anyone has faced or will ever face such a situation

[west mountain]

Very much, but correct. There are certain interaction that if you miss them, they dont come back. I forgot to look at the tower status log on the tower console and after putting the Testoverridemodule, you cannot access it anymore. So that item is missing in my PDA.

[sleek timber]

huh, interesting

[west mountain]

Too bad you cannot upload custom images to your PDA. Or is there a way to do it?

[sleek timber]

is a laser cutter needed to complete the ||AL-AN story||?

[lime grove]

no

[west mountain]

Neither story needs the laser cutter. But its fun!

[broken badge]

I would say if you use all the resources like root pustules & ion cubes before completing the story, that demonstrates poor planning on the part of the player and too bad lol.

Devs can’t, well more specifically shouldn’t, have to make games completely “idiot-proof”😂

If you play the game, even remotely as it’s intended, you’ll end up with plenty of cubes & root pustules to finish it. Only if take advantage of all the resources available to you & completely neglect the story objectives (and I mean really to the extreme) would this sort of hypothetical scenario ever come to pass.

I think you can change at any point to custom game options though? Not 100% sure about that. But CGOs has an option for cost-free building. Also, there’s a preset in the dev menu options (available to all but Switch) which also allows for the same thing. So I don’t anticipate anyone getting completely softlocked this way😂

[midnight swan]

I guess it’s just that i have most of my experience in classic subnautica, but it just seems impossible for the laser cutter to have not much use.

[next current]

Probably because it's main use SN is barely present in BZ.

[clever crow]

i thought there's only 1 exposed battery-looking thing that is needed to do plot, so isn't lasercutter needed?

actually, that's for salad ending, nvm

[broken badge]

You use laser cutter for several doors in mercury bow. Some crates you use it on. Not saying that’s necessarily required, but I wouldn’t want to play the game without one

[next current]

Ngl... kinda forgot about locked supply crates.

[carmine bobcat]

Doesn't the game end after ||Al-AN|| helps you or smth

[broken badge]

There’s also that one way shortcut you cut the ice with laser cutter (also optional)

[carmine bobcat]

I don't have the ||crystal caves|| location

[deep kettle]

Petition to replace the laser cutter with a giant hair dryer 😄

[eternal garnet]

so... the flashlight?

[deep kettle]

I guess? Lol.

[somber canyon]

with a lightsaber.

[west mountain]

No, there are three open ones and also accessible wiithout cutting doors. I would always play with the laser cutter, but it is not required.

[midnight swan]

You have a fair point in that second paragraph, but devs can make games “idiot-proof”, or at least for the most part. For example, Subnautica’s “finite” resources is something that may be annoying to players, but is not at all a problem for anyone playing casually, as there is enough resources for building even a fleet of cyclopes. However, limited ion power is a huge problem, as that sort of thing cannot be extremely common, so the developers have a dilemma in creating limited ion power. A minimum of 45 ion cubes can be obtained, and a maximum of 69, meaning that anything requiring ion resources is using up extremely rare and precious resources, so they must be used sparingly in recipes. The chance of 45-69 depending on luck. Luck. I believe that something in a video game that is considered “rare” should not be limited in a way that luck decides your limit. This is because if that is the case, different players may have more positive or negative experiences than the other, meaning that your experience of the game would be limited or greatly affected by luck. In my opinion, luck based things in video games are usually not a bad thing, on the contrary in fact. I believe that luck provides the butter to a game’s bread, the spice of gameplay. However, if your luck has a chance to not provide enough butter, the bread is too bland, and you are restricted to a certain amount of butter, making your enjoyment of the bread entirely based on luck. In conclusion, luck is usually a very good thing in video games, but having a limit on something in a game is typically not a good thing.

[broken badge]

I don’t consider the amount of ion cubes in BZ to be, in any way, “limiting”-sure it’s finite, but that doesn’t mean for the average player, it will limit their gameplay in any significant fashion.

Unless you completely squander them, such as spamming the hell out of a tether tool for example, or building a massive fleet of vehicles (such as you mentioned, albeit in Subnautica not BZ), there’s plenty of ion cubes to play the game. Going further, I’d say the tether tool is more of a curiosity than something the average player will likely use, especially in their first playthrough, so I don’t see it as an issue. And that’s really what’s at stake in this hypothetical discussion, is how likely a brand new player would use up all such items, like ion cubes and root pustules in their first playthrough. That seems fairly far-fetched.

I love how much earlier you can get ion cubes, compared to Subnautica, where you can actually make use of the technology (compared to waiting til nearly the end of the game to receive ion tech in Subnautica).

[eternal garnet]

you can indeed switch to custom game mode anytime, with crafting not needing resources

[broken badge]

That’s what I thought. Thanks for confirming meatie

[bold monolith]

It isn't 45 - 69, it's 45 - 93.

There are a few softlocks possible if you go that way, considering a lot of things are limited.

I won't talk about SN1, but you can be softlocked completely there if you really insist.

And no command will save you.

[broken badge]

My point was less about the “could” vs how likely someone brand new to playing “would” softlock using all those things, which I’m guessing is still extremely unlikely

[midnight swan]

Well, the tether tool is actually a perfect example of how the limited ion cubes affects the game. It makes every use of the tool feel like a timer ticking down to either being softlocked or running out of ion cubes. It makes extensive late game exploration and usage of tools feel like you are limiting your chances of beating the game, which discourages those things, which is bad.

[bold monolith]

You would have to use it quite a lot even if you aren't lucky.

[broken badge]

Never have bothered with using the tether tool

[pliant jetty]

You need it to get an essential plot item

[pliant jetty]

I was completely punch drunk with ion cubes drilled them steep

Lockers full of them

[pliant jetty]

It's useful exactly once if you don't get a prawn suit

[west mountain]

No you dont, you can get all three scans without lasercutter.

[pliant jetty]

How?

(the ||parallel processing unit||)

Oh, that's optional

[next current]

Via the ||Mercury II bow.||

[steel stream]

Also with recyclotron you can dismantle the tether tool and use the empty ion cube to build for example recyclotron, and when you dismantle that, you get a fully charged ion cube. (Or craft an ion battery and charge that to charge the ion cube again)

[pliant jetty]

You need to scan 3

[next current]

Yeah, all three scans are there and do not need a laser cutter to access them.

[pliant jetty]

Huh, I only noticed one.

[latent mantle]

There are more just hidden

Ive found 2 that were already out in the open I just have never bothered to go search for another

I'm betting I swam past em too lol

[real oxide]

Anyone knows the best place/biome for ultra high capacity tank? I only need one more fragment. thanks

[eternal garnet]

all the lilypad monkey nests. In the crevices that go around the big rock above body cache

[real oxide]

there are monkey nests in lilypads biome? didn't know that 😮

[next current]

You could get the one random Fragment in the Arctic Kelp Cave next to the Western Iceberg Zone.

[broken badge]

Lilypad caves specifically, but yes they have sea monkey nests with ultra tank fragments, among other very useful stuff

[real oxide]

ok thanks

wait how deep is that?

[broken badge]

You’ll want a seatruck, preferably with 300m upgrade

[real oxide]

ah ok i have that

thanks

[broken badge]

You can find nickel in those caves as well which you’ll need for some upgrades and stuff

[west mountain]

Currently my favorite song added to the jukebox is "Unstoppable" from Sia (especially the sped-up version). I think it fits the game perfectly 🙂

[midnight swan]

Mine is Rite of the Deep

[little haven]

Ultra > Booster, no questions asked.

[next current]

You're allowed to have your opinion. I personally like the Booster Tank more because that extra speed is just really nice to have.

[midnight swan]

Ultra > Lightweight in Subnautica, so i expect Ultra > Booster in bz.

How much is booster’s speed increase?

[next current]

Not as good as it used to be, but still good nonetheless. Even better when paired with a Seaglide.

It's especially helpful if you use the Reinforced Dive Suit and/or Swim Charge Fins.

[midnight swan]

How much O2 with UHC tank in bz?

[next current]

Same in SN, 180 seconds.

[midnight swan]

Nice

[next current]

225 oxygen in total.

[midnight swan]

Correct

I find that getting a bit of a boost to your speed is not quite as helpful as over 3 1/2 minutes of oxygen though, so i’m still gonna have to go with UHC

[next current]

Well... most of the time, you're either next to a vehicle, Habitat, or on land.

[pliant jetty]

Got to get on that oxygen plant 99% in the water life

Just craft more tanks

Half fill your inventory with tanks

[midnight swan]

I was just exploring and i found a outpost with the log “||Signals from the deep||” laying on the ground near it. Does that area have anything inportant (including rite of the deep disc)?

Theres some pretty eye jelloes in the area too

AY NICE

I unlocked the ||Quantum Locker||

There was a ||architect artifact||

And fevered peppers

[eternal garnet]

by the elevator and teleporter? that one goes to ||Phi, just a shortcut||

[midnight swan]

Is rite of the deep disc near there

[eternal garnet]

there's only two elevators. this one is alien tech

[midnight swan]

So i followed that ||architect pipe thing|| and found a wall of ice, so is there any sort of flamethrower or something? Or can i use laser cutter maybe?

SHAHHSHEHE

I finally found the ||Crane Platform||

Ok i need an explanation for something

Why am i hearing morse for SOS

Theres blinking ||Architect Lights||

[eternal garnet]

yes, that ice cuts with a laser cutter. And only from the inside

The distress signal is very important. If you didn't already find the source

you are finding it late, but it's all good

[midnight swan]

I didnt find its source

[eternal garnet]

really late, in fact lol

[midnight swan]

I dont even have ||Al-An|| though, and it’s deeper than my seatruck’s max depth

[eternal garnet]

upgrade it to 300m. But you don't need the truck to go there. Some hints, ||it's at 200m. Follow the blinky linghts into a side tunnel||

[midnight swan]

I need diamonds

[eternal garnet]

deep twisty bridges, or most lava vents

[midnight swan]

How deep in bridges?

[tacit thorn]

Koppa mine has some at conveniently 150m depth

[eternal garnet]

below 300. It's ok, just look for the o2 plants

that's true, if you can find koppa

You need to go to deep twisty at some point for other reasons. Remember to do this

[tacit thorn]

that place is awful

[midnight swan]

Idk how to get into koppa, i cant find any sort of way downwards

[eternal garnet]

maybe the round big man-made hole? But first, find the doors. South-west of delta island, not far

depth 140

[midnight swan]

Thank you

[eternal garnet]

(the hole is inside)

[midnight swan]

?

Ok so if i go southwest of delta island, i’ll find a hole at 140 depth with koppa facility inside with at least two diamond?

[coral lotus]

this sounds like alot of work for diamonds

[midnight swan]

Yeah but i need to go deeper

[coral lotus]

you can find diamonds in the twisty Bridge where the squidsharks are and those green sharks

[midnight swan]

I got the diamonds finally

[eternal garnet]

koppa is a nice place. Plop beacons everywhere, btw

[elder shard]

how do u censor out spoilers?

[midnight swan]

|| on both ends

||Makes it look like this|| <—- Tap this

[polar sundial]

I dont use beacons

to be fair I have the map memorized

[eternal garnet]

your real purpose is to spam the world with beacons.
If you die with a beacon, it renames and drops. new in BZ

That there is reason enough

[polar sundial]

Oh

that's actually pretty smart

but if I die its only bc I got out of my prawn suit or seatruck

and got attacked by Chelicerate.

shadow leviathan never kills me

I never get out down there almost

my main base is down there so I just use a sea truck bay and moonpool

[viscid shadow]

Anyone ever been to the void and like 230ish meters down find a perfectly flat area?

It goes on for a very long time

[eternal garnet]

no but 800m, and 2400

unfinished world edits really

[viscid shadow]

Ah

There’s like a weird canyon lookin area I built a base in, perfectly flat and had vertical cliff faces about 500m on either side of the base

[polar sundial]

yea..., id rather be close to materials and my jellyfish

[tacit thorn]

currently at 2100 mark, now gathering titanium to build deeper

[viscid shadow]

Exquisite

[jagged flame]

Anyone know how to get mods on the epic games version of bz

[eternal garnet]

maybe use this https://snm.crd.co/#choice-bz

I feel it should work, but did not test

[cunning finch]

Ever just spend hours doing something and it turns out it was a complete waste of time

Anyway is the spy pengling stuff really worth it? What do i get out of it? Cause im done with phi and the surrounding area.

||I just ran around on foot for two hours in ice worm land struggling to find the portal i stumbled upon by accident twice, only for it to lead back to phi robotics||

[eternal garnet]

the spy pengling is vital for getting a side quest, with the ||frozen leviathan||. To ||cure it.||
Also it's the easiest tool for getting stalker fur

[cunning finch]

Sooo. I tried to test run my spy pengling and.. it just exploded. Spontaneously combusted.

[eternal garnet]

oh, it is not waterproof.

There's also a self destruct key on screen. You don't want to be pressing that for long

[cunning finch]

I put it on an ice plate thing, and the moment i used the remote, it exploded

[eternal garnet]

mm. that's probably considered water. go on land

[cunning finch]

Hey question.
Why is my prawn thrust fuel depleting even when im not thrusting?

[next current]

Because any movement while not walking will drain the trust.

[cunning finch]

Hm. Slightly annoying change but alright

[stable mirage]

someone explain how to consume food

[echo salmon]

make food

consume the food

[pliant jetty]

Mouse over it and check what the tool tips say, in certain menus (operating lockers) you actually can't eat

[pliant sorrel]

Is there a console command that destroys the snowfox? My snowfox glitched through the ground and I wanna kill it

[sleek timber]

if the boost was better, I'd consider it

but I tried the booster tank and was immediately disappointed by how insignificantly faster it is

[west mountain]

Air bladder speed would be nice 🙂

[sleek timber]

yup, that thing is fun

[west mountain]

you jump 5m out of the water 🙂

[sleek timber]

still doesn't compare to the SN glitch where you could move at 10x normal speed with seaglide

I think it was fixed a couple motnhs ago

[tough oak]

(glitch)

[sleek timber]

I mean like, you have normal seaglide speed, and you have 10x seaglide speed

[next current]

Indeed. SSG was patched with the Living Large Update.

[signal dagger]

By the way in my opinion ||the protagonist calling it weird that when she finally gets to meet a sentient species from a different world only to find out the aliens name is “al-an”|| is kind of funny.

[eternal garnet]

No, it's fine

[signal dagger]

How did I not immediately get the reference.

By the way does the protagonist have cybernetic brain implants cause it’s sort of implied.

[eternal garnet]

I don't think she does

[signal dagger]

I’m pretty sure that she states that she has some kind of cybernetics at some point in the game.

That being ||in the facility that al-ans mind was stored in||.

By the way ||isn’t it implied that precursors are a hive mind type thing||. The reason being that ||al-an states that “he is a part of a symphony” of sorts||.

[midnight swan]

AN IMPOSTER!!!!!!!

[signal dagger]

False.

We can both have similar usernames and not be the same person.

[eternal garnet]

yes, his society is a hive mind. Not implied, mentioned many times

[midnight swan]

Maybe the real imposters were the friends we made along the way

[eternal garnet]

that's quite an astounding coincidence. I have never seen the name outside this channel

[midnight swan]

What name?

[eternal garnet]

your two names

[signal dagger]

Jevil is a secret boss from deltarune chapter 1. That is all I’m going to state when it comes to the name.

By the way ||how long did precursors live on average||. I don’t mean ||transferring their minds to a new body when their previous body starts failing as al-an suggests they do|| but rather ||just the species on their own||.

[eternal garnet]

Gonna have to go to their planet and ask. You are close to max number of spoiler tags. Bot will get mad

[signal dagger]

What.

Why is it set up that way.

[midnight swan]

Yes why

[eternal garnet]

I don't know. It would delete your post if too many

[signal dagger]

Either way. Why don’t we have more arctic variants of species from the original game.

[midnight swan]

I wish there were arctic stalkers

[signal dagger]

And why are the creepvine pods in this game red rather than orangey yellow as they were in the original game.

[midnight swan]

Yeah

[signal dagger]

There are.

Sort of.

[midnight swan]

In name, yes, but not in appearance. They are totally different creatures.

[eternal garnet]

it's the arctic variant of creepvine. Like the peeper

[deep kettle]

To get a different look, would be a bit boring if everything looked the same as the original 😛

[midnight swan]

Fair

[latent mantle]

Ok why are there 2 jevils?

[midnight swan]

We both like deltarune

And the secret boss jevil

[latent mantle]

I am definitely getting spiderman no way home vibes from this chat rn

[signal dagger]

That is reasonable I suppose.

[latent mantle]

We got Jevil and jevil. Who is from another multiverse

[signal dagger]

By the way what species in game is the smartest. Humans and precursors not included.

[latent mantle]

Definitely gotta give some props to sea monkeys

[signal dagger]

Agreed.

[latent mantle]

They utilize the metal and fragments from tools to build their nests

And alongside that they are also curious creatures that bring you materials

[signal dagger]

Sea monkeys are stated to be pretty smart am I correct.

[latent mantle]

So they are by far one of the smartest imo

Curious creatures, not hostile, intelligent, and very crafty

[signal dagger]

Their behavior reminds me of a mix of a dog and a raven.

[latent mantle]

What more reason to call them one of the smartest creatures in BZ

[restive wharf]

So, i found the ||Crystal caves entrance|| (first time i got to there) should i proceed going or just go away and come back later?

[latent mantle]

If you dont include humans or precursors

[signal dagger]

The dog part coming from how they generally interact with the player and the raven part from the whole “taking random junk to make their nest or to give to the player” thing.

By the way what do sea monkeys eat.

[latent mantle]

You're gonna need your prawn suit and if you dont have the mk3 depth module for your seatruck get it

[signal dagger]

Are they omnivores.

[latent mantle]

Pretty sure they are herbivores

[restive wharf]

it says 650 max meters and i have defense perimeter crap but yeah i have prawn

so do i keep going???

[latent mantle]

Get the docking module and get your prawn on it

Then go back in there

[restive wharf]

i have no modules

[latent mantle]

Oh then you gotta go back and take your prawn suit instead

[restive wharf]

why?

[latent mantle]

The depth

It gets deeper

[signal dagger]

Understood.

[restive wharf]

gah dayum

imma have to research where i can find grapple arm frags and some modules

[latent mantle]

My reason behind that though is because almost all of the carnivorous species in BZ are hostile

And sea monkeys arent hostile

Plus they dont have claws for beings able to kill their prey

Or jaws big enough for that type of thing

[signal dagger]

Given that sea monkeys live in creepvine forests I assume that they eat creepvine leafs.

[latent mantle]

And seed clusters

[signal dagger]

Fair.

[midnight swan]

I hate sea monkeys

[signal dagger]

Why.

[latent mantle]

They bring me lithium. Good enough reason for me to accept them

[signal dagger]

2 of them brought me copper.

[midnight swan]

After taking ten minutes to finally craft my knife and scanner, they were both stolen by sea monkeys.

Basically i lost my first ten minutes of progress to them

And almost drowned

[signal dagger]

Solution. Take the stuff back.

[latent mantle]

Lol I have gone up to sea monkeys with both of them out and they just swam by

[midnight swan]

I didnt have seaglide

[latent mantle]

Never took em

[midnight swan]

I couldnt catch up ti them

[latent mantle]

Thats why you bring your knife or scanner out only when you need to use them

[midnight swan]

I didnt know that at tbe time

[latent mantle]

Well at least when you're near the sea monkeys

The trailers of the sea monkeys

Thats how I knew they could take stuff

But they have never taken my stuff

Only brought things to me

[signal dagger]

Take a creepvine seed cluster. Go to the fabricator. Make rubber. Make some flippers. [[they increase your speed by roughly 15 percent.]] chase down the sea monkeys that stole your knife and scanner and take your stuff back.

[midnight swan]

I didnt see the trailers

[midnight swan]

I didnt have flippers

[latent mantle]

I was reading the description of BZ on steam and the trailer automatically played

[signal dagger]

That’s what I’m suggesting you make.

[midnight swan]

Also i didnt know where i was on the map at the time

[midnight swan]

That time is long past, i have a seatruck jow

[latent mantle]

Thats why you take their children aka the egg and make a ransom for your stuff in exchange for their egg

Fair trade imo

Economy in BZ

[signal dagger]

If sea monkeys are as smart as humans then that would make your idea more effective to be honest.

[latent mantle]

Lol

[carmine bobcat]

Evening

[midnight swan]

I did take rheir children

[latent mantle]

Also I am evil

[signal dagger]

Wait are sea monkeys human levels of intelligence.

[midnight swan]

Also my lifepod storage is half filled with penglings

[latent mantle]

I power my bio reactors with penglings

[midnight swan]

Nice

[signal dagger]

[midnight swan]

Do pengwings breed in alien containment?

[latent mantle]

I literally hop up on the ice tops and just snatch em

And dive back in and swim to the next area of pengwings

[carmine bobcat]

Nooe

[midnight swan]

>:(

[latent mantle]

What I have done is hunt for the glowwhale leviathan eggs

[signal dagger]

By the way here is what I need to know. Why do brinewings remind me of borzois when it comes to their faces.

[latent mantle]

You can get them unlike reefbacks in the original

But I want more rideable leviathans like the glowwhale

[signal dagger]

Wait why were the eggs removed.

[latent mantle]

They were never actually given an egg in the first subnautica

Basically you gotta use commands to spawn a reefback egg

And its just a giant spadefish egg

[midnight swan]

Same except sea treader levi

[latent mantle]

The glowwhale egg actually exists and you can find them

[latent mantle]

Mosquitoe no wings fr fr

[midnight swan]

True lmao

[signal dagger]

If they were never given an egg then how can you spawn them with commands. [[i am aware that I am taking this too literally.]]

[latent mantle]

Its item reefbackegg

Console command

I can dm you a photo of my alien containment that has a reefback if u want

[signal dagger]

By the way in the brinewings PDA entry isn’t it stated that they use frozen salt to freeze their prey. [[and occasionally the player.]]

[latent mantle]

They of course are shrunk down because too big for the containment

[signal dagger]

I meant “how is it that it’s possible to spawn their egg if they do not have any”.

But of course I was being too literal. [[im usually that way.]]

[latent mantle]

What I meant by that is they do not have a egg textured specifically for them as in you cant find one in the game itself for them

So you gotta use commands to get an egg for one

Which is just a oversized spadefish egg

[midnight swan]

Yeah

[signal dagger]

But as for the brinewing thing.

[latent mantle]

They use something to freeze their prey and then eat it

Like you know how the puff up

[signal dagger]

Do they shoot out a stream of salt to freeze their prey. Or is it normal water.

[latent mantle]

My guess is they suck up some of the cold water and use some sort of bodily fluid they create and spit it out at their prey

[restive wharf]

i didnt even had to research on youtube and i already found the 2 parts i needed for grappling arm

[latent mantle]

Because why else would they puff up like a pufferfish if they didnt suck some of the water up

[signal dagger]

I looked it up. It’s a “super cooled saline solution” according to the Wikipedia page.

[latent mantle]

They probably use some water from the ocean to make it

But the rest is their own doing

[signal dagger]

The water on 4546B is salt water am I correct.

[latent mantle]

Well ig

[restive wharf]

is this even normal?!

[latent mantle]

Leviathan

[restive wharf]

yes i know

but why the hell in that zone?

[latent mantle]

What biome u in been a while

Since I last played BZ

[next current]

It's the Lilypad Crevice.

[latent mantle]

Isn't that the one near a wreck

Well one of the wrecks

[restive wharf]

its where u find margarit

[latent mantle]

Oh then idk

Chelicerate said man I'm going on vacation

Anyways

Imma go

[next current]

Somewhat, it serves as one of the entrance to the ||Prawn Pilots Base||.

[restive wharf]

so apparently i was at the deep purple vents and bozo no-clipped thru there

even i saw his head popping up from the floor

[pliant jetty]

I didn't get much derp out of my chels

They just calmly circled, occasionally ate a brute shark and attacked my prawn a few times

Reapers were so much more likely to do stupid stuff

Ghost leviathans never had very much personality either, 🤔

[midnight swan]

I wish there were more levis in bz

Correction: More passive leviathans

[restive wharf]

there are enough for me

i think the whale is a pacific leviathan

[midnight swan]

I know theres only 3 in subnautica (Reefback, Sea Treader (technically), ||Sea Emperor|| <— Subnautica Spoilers) and 2 in bz (Glow Whale, Ventgarden), but because of Reefbacks’ large population and presence in subnautica, below zero seems almost devoid of passive levis. I would appreciate not so much many more species of passive levis, but more a new and extremely common species of passive levi.

[latent mantle]

And im back

Woah lots of leviathan talk

Well this chat is dead

[next current]

Never.

[midnight swan]

dead chat

[final prism]

hi\

[next current]

Sup.

[eternal garnet]

rumors of my death are mostly false

[storm imp]

mostly?

[eternal garnet]

I'll check again after coffee ☕