📚wiki-discussion

[fluid vale]

i think its fine to make a hardpoint page and just list all the sources of it

wall rack, both chassis

uhh

dive elevator

[short spire]

Yes. The wall rack is a buildable item that is just a placeable hardpoint, and then the Tadpole, the chassis' and the dive elevator all have hardpoints baked onto them.

[agile spindle]

does it also apply to the Portable Oxygen Generator?

[primal geode]

Something like that?

[fluid vale]

yes

[knotty nimbus]

The Tailings seem like the tribalized descendants of whatever Axum faction built the Observatory yeah

[short spire]

Yes, any item that can be held (afaik) can be attached to any type of hardpoint

[agile spindle]

I think a Hardpoints page is okay

[summer kindle]

Yeah they’re not a “faction” so much as like, all that’s left really

[fluid vale]

im too lazy to do the math or go in game to see how much the portable oxygen generator recovers per second

i know it recharges slowly

[agile spindle]

make sure to list what modules have hardpoints, what items attach to hardpoints

[summer kindle]

But for ease we can list them in the same way

[agile spindle]

and link to the hardpoints page on relevant pages when possible

[knotty nimbus]

It sounded like the Tailings were maintaining the Observatory and the power plant stuff somewhat, so I assume they are a direct descendant of those people

[summer kindle]

They’re just the remnants of the Axum

[short spire]

Thank you, will do.

[fluid vale]

can anyone confirm right away if this statement i made is true for other marrowbreaches

afaik ive only been grabbed by one in the graveyard

others just bite normally

[knotty nimbus]

I believe this is true

[summer kindle]

just remembered I called horizontal gene transfer shenanigans 5 months ago

I’m so smart

[fluid vale]

nice

[short spire]

Am I doing this right?

[agile spindle]

remove the Description header, otherwise it looks good

[fluid vale]

i think bioreactors are terrible in this game

in terms of like the space required vs output of 10 or 20

unless im missing something

oh nice the wiki page for it looks great

have we tested that these nodes respawn yet (slowly) or no

the actual nodes not metal farms

cuz the softlock thing has been circulating

[ruby widget]

hey so

https://subnautica2.gg/map

is this interactive map supposed to be linked to in the wiki?

[agile spindle]

interactive maps that aren't on the wiki aren't associated with the wiki

[fluid vale]

should it not? they arent affiliated but ill remove the direct link if it causes issues

gotcha

will keep that in mind

[ruby widget]

so i should remove links to it that i find?

[primal geode]

There should be an original map in biomes

[agile spindle]

the idea is to have our own eventually

we've got a few people working on making a map currently

[ruby widget]

so.. remove links?

[agile spindle]

yea

[ruby widget]

k

someone beat me to it

next question, what info do we intend the infocards to contain?

[primal geode]

The formstting of the real wiki map REEAALLLYY doesn't hold up on mobile, but I assume that'll get a fix in due time, when the actual map rolls out

[fluid vale]

depth, music tracks nvm thought that was shallows its welcome center

[agile spindle]

location (what biome it is in)

[late island]

We should probably have technical details like coords in a separate collapseable section of the infobox

[fluid vale]

could I get some lore clarity before I make any edits?

[ruby widget]

distance and direction from lifepod?

[fluid vale]

This refers to the ||Architects right||

since the message in the observatory is directed at them

[agile spindle]

if i understood that monologue correctly, They is the Crypters and "you" is the Architects

[fluid vale]

i see

cant wait for robin and alan to fly through orbit and crash land to save the day just in time for the final battle in version 1.0 (jk)

[remote leaf]

nah, it will be marg on a prawn suit attacking a ship

[fluid vale]

she'll be infected with super omega kharaa and proteavirus strain omega and be 4000 years old and still wont die

itll be great

[remote leaf]

based on a wanted poster I found, I think she is still alive

[fluid vale]

💀

so from the lore we know now, the axum were getting messed up and tried to call the architects for help? and im assuming it didnt work

[agile spindle]

The World Tree is infecting everything on the planet via the Proteavirus

so they asked the Architects for help and then went somewhere(?)

[short spire]

Another best practice question here: if an item is referenced multiple times on the same page, should each reference cite said item's page, or just the first reference?

[agile spindle]

generally just the first reference though in some cases like tables and infoboxes they should always be linked regardless

[short spire]

Ahh okay, that makes sense. Thanks!\

[summer kindle]

I don’t think Crypters need a page

We have nothing more than a mention of them

[agile spindle]

yea they can be a subsection on the Axum page

i didnt really know what they were when i recommended a page be made

[primal geode]

Agreed

[fluid vale]

ok ill delete it

[agile spindle]

well, ill just turn it into a redirect to Axum

[fluid vale]

go ahead

[summer kindle]

I thought I had said that we didn’t need it but apparently I neglected to send that message

[agile spindle]

you can add a section to the Axum page if you like. We can also mention Crypter vaults

we also need a Tailings section on there

[ruby widget]

@agile spindlethe welcome center currently uses the Template:Infobox Biome. There isn't really a point of interest inforbox template. Should i add parameters to the biome one to make it work for points of interst? or make a whole new template and replace the existing ones?

[summer kindle]

You can add a section to the Axum page that goes over each of these

[agile spindle]

we should make a new infobox for locations

[ruby widget]

k

shall it be called Locations or Points of Interest

[agile spindle]

we have to make them in CSS

[ruby widget]

regions contain biomes and biomes contain points of interest?

[agile spindle]

@vague marten could we have an Infobox POI with: Location, Depth, Coords please? 🙏

[vague marten]

sure

[ruby widget]

biome instead of location

[agile spindle]

i think location is better, some pois are best described without mentioning a specific biome sometimes

[ruby widget]

k

[agile spindle]

location applies to biomes and any other sub areas

[fluid vale]

last lore question just to clear it up. You, the player, were on the same Cicada that the rest of the Pioneers Zip, Ruby, etc were all on right? it's just that as the QI you were printed and awakened by NoA much later after their demise

[ruby widget]

everyone printed is a QI?

[fluid vale]

er idk

let me reread the beginning logs

[vague marten]

done [[sn2:Template:Infobox POI]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Template:Infobox_POI

[ruby widget]

wee

[agile spindle]

thank you

[summer kindle]

That was what was said yes

The QI’s weren’t to be printed unless they were needed

Seemingly

[ruby widget]

@vague martenare you sure?

[vague marten]

oh i didn't write documentation - but you can add the undocumented params - title, image, location, depth, and coords

[ruby widget]

can we instead have those on the parameters list so its standarized the hundred POIs im about to add?

[jade solstice]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Observatory_Museum

its actually called Axum Observatory when discovered

the museum thing was just a Axum text saying it serves as a museum

[agile spindle]

does it have a databank entry?

[jade solstice]

yes

called Axum Ovservatory, listed under POI

[agile spindle]

you are right, ill move it

[vague marten]

i don't think any of the other infoboxes currently have documentation either - they're all just using "add undocumented parameter" and copy/paste, or editing in source rather than visual - but sure i can throw those in these for poi

[ruby widget]

ty! i'll stop adding undocumented ones to the welcome center page then

[vague marten]

you're fine to keep doing that - it won't change anything, it's just whether the params are listed in the visual editor or not, they still work the same in the template itself whether they're undocumented or not

they should show up now

[tardy sequoia]

The recipe template used to have documented parameters but doesn’t anymore for some reason

[ruby widget]

@agile spindlethe hab builder sitting in the box on the sea floor that you scan so that you can make your own hab builder. is that called a "fragment"?

[agile spindle]

yeah

[vague marten]

that one's a little trickier because the template itself was changed from being manually defined individual item1, item2, item3 etc params to be dynamically generated for any number of itemX params, but the template documentation is static, it can't be generated, so i could list a couple itemX manually to have them appear but it's not really fesible to list all available params for it since it's practically infinite (tho currently has a cap of 6)

[primal geode]

SemiRelated
Doesn't this, combined with us being pioneers to begin with mean that, like, we're actually meant to survive in a way
At least more so than Ryley "glorified but goated janitor" Robinson

[tardy sequoia]

oh that does make sense, thank you

[vague marten]

also this should be fixed now

[ruby widget]

@vague martenit works thanks!

[tight harness]

does visual editor really not support some kind of repeated params? That tracks

[crude vigil]

Hey i've added some coordinates to the wrecks, the sophie boucher's bunker and some images for the titanium and copper pages, ill now reformat the wrecks page to match the first game's one

[vague marten]

nope - it's always been an issue with rsw's switch infoboxes and versionx params

[crude vigil]

like this

[tardy sequoia]

Does anyone know anything about how the tadpole dock decides what is and isn’t sufficient space to dock?
I’ve wanted to add that to the page, but been having a lot of issues with the haul chassis specifically

For example, in one location a Moonpool is considered large enough while having the same size elsewhere isn’t. In some circumstances making the Moonpool larger actually makes the available space considered insufficient
it’s been driving me slightly insane for about an hour lmao

[vague marten]

(i think most rsw's infoboxes have no templatedocs)

[agile spindle]

definitely make it a table, i was planning to do this later today but go for it! don't use any tabbers though

[primal geode]

Sorry, question about this

The last coordinate is the depth

That says it's 10m deep and 5m deep

I feel like there should be some different consistency there

Such as not including the last coordinate, since it is told through depth already

[crude vigil]

can someone create a template for materials, some pages are missing gallery section and its very irregular

[agile spindle]

can you link an example?

[agile spindle]

there's no reason not to include it, if it's not needed players will learn to ignore it

for example if we get a teleport command in the distant future, the Z coordinate would be used to teleport somewhere

[primal geode]

Fair enough, but I still feel like the two should match up
Although I guess the difference gets progressively less noticeable the deeper you go anyway

[crude vigil]

sulfur misses gallery, celestine too, some pages need a trivia

[agile spindle]

There's no template for sections like gallery and trivia, you can just add a header and make them on any page. You can copy it from another page if you don't know how

[ruby widget]

@primal geodei feel like "depth" here mean "you need to be this skilled to enter." On larger POIs that can be 50m or more tall, i think i'd write the depth as the bottom of the wreck and the coords as the middle

[crude vigil]

is this okay ?

[agile spindle]

thats great!

[crude vigil]

just needs the images and some coordinates

ok doing same for unnamed wrecks

[ruby widget]

10m at a quick glance means "oh hay it easy"

[summer kindle]

Yeah very nice

[crude vigil]

maybe unnamed wrecks should have tabbers

[agile spindle]

no tabbers

[summer kindle]

I’m going to say we avoid tabbers unless absolutely necessary

[crude vigil]

okay

someone has the list of every wreck even without coordinates?

[agile spindle]

maybe mapgenie's interactive map, otherwise not that i know of

@summer kindle what are we thinking for the columns on this table? https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Lifeforms we were discussing last night that other than a picture and attitude, biomes might not be all that useful on this page

[crude vigil]

also, will bz have its own wiki like sn2 instead of having multiple pages with (Subnautica) and (Subnautica Below Zero)

[short spire]

My very first wiki page! 😁
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Hardpoint

[summer kindle]

I was gonna suggest biomod but that’s like major overlap with the biomods page then

[agile spindle]

i think that would be a good column to have

just an icon + name of the biomod, no description

[summer kindle]

I suppose yeah

That works

Photo | Attitude | Biomod

[agile spindle]

sounds good

[short spire]

Yeah, at the very least something brief to show a biomod can be obtained from it. Even if it's just included in like a description column

[summer kindle]

Thank you! Not one I would have considered

[ruby widget]

arg the floating trash turns out has home locations and if you push it away it gravitates back again

gets in the way of screenshots

[tight harness]

eventually yes, but we are focusing on the SN2 launch first

[warm mist]

hi I have a question, every time I finish a NOA mission I have to wait a very long time before getting the new mission, isn't there something to do to get it faster?

[ruby widget]

@warm mist#subnautica-2-chat

[warm mist]

tkx

[crude vigil]

new formatting finished: https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Wrecks. definitely misses a lot of unnamed wrecks and have no images.

how do yall take screenshots without the ui?

[ruby widget]

mods

[crude vigil]

already?

[obtuse silo]

Hey, can I suggest something?

[agile spindle]

of course

[crude vigil]

this one? https://www.curseforge.com/subnautica-2/ue4ss-mods/toggleable-hud

[obtuse silo]

Could you add the contents acces to the three-bar dropdown menu? It's more convenient and accessible on mobile.

And comfortable

[agile spindle]

@vague marten is this possible? ^

[primal geode]

and you even added the links to "my" tadpole pages thank you!
(not actually mine, I just randomly decided to fixate on the haul specifically for no reason 😭 )

[vague marten]

yea, just depends what all you want on the mobile sidebar

it has to be done in a js gadget tho - there's no mw: namespace page for the mobile sidebar like there is on vector

[obtuse silo]

Is put these Quick access

Here

[agile spindle]

yeah, same stuff as the front page contents

[obtuse silo]

Yeah

What website are they using to create the website?

[crude vigil]

is there an spoiler infobox yet?

[vague marten]

afaik we're not doing spoiler stuff on sn2, just list the info, no spoiler tagging

[obtuse silo]

Okk

I say this because it might help.

[crude vigil]

ok

[summer kindle]

Why is the biomes icon a cradle shootroot

To be fair I don’t know what else it would be

[obtuse silo]

A map?

[agile spindle]

because those icons are all from the fabricator or beacons

[summer kindle]

Ah

[agile spindle]

and there's none for biomes, though i considered using the basic materials one for biomes (the coral) and putting a different page on there

[crude vigil]

can someone create the nav boxes?

[agile spindle]

i can take a look at it after i go through the lifeforms page

[obtuse silo]

You could use a topography icon

Its a suggest

[crude vigil]

ok ty, i think we should have items, biomes and seabase modules.

like this for items

[summer kindle]

Man that’s gonna be an ordeal

[vague marten]

oh i guess i should copy over the navbox module too

[tight harness]

We run MediaWiki

[obtuse silo]

Oh, ok

[crude vigil]

do you know why some previews are broken?

[tight harness]

if there isn't any text above the TOC

[crude vigil]

what is the TOC ?

[tight harness]

table of contents

[vague marten]

should start appearing soon - if you want to change the links, [[sn2:MediaWiki:Gadget-mobileSidebar.js]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/MediaWiki:Gadget-mobileSidebar.js

[crude vigil]

the tadpole haul chassis has one but is still bugged

[agile spindle]

thank you!

[tight harness]

it might just take some time to update, I'll check it out

okay yeah its just cached

[short spire]

Yeah, I just updated that page a few minutes ago

[primal geode]

I tried putting the description above the infobox in the editor on the haul page, but that just removes the TOC entirely from the page so idk what's up with that

not that it matters so long as people just don't put text above the infobox but still

[vague marten]

don't put it above the infobox

that will display very poorly on mobile

[primal geode]

I did not, but I would have checked if that helped
instead it messed up the TOC so I didn't save it

and also good to know in general anyway

[tight harness]

tyvm for bringing this up, we are working on a fix

[vague marten]

navbox templates can be made now [[sn2:Template:Navbox]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Template:Navbox

[vague marten]

(some of the doc is wrong, it's just copied from rsw)

[jade solstice]

aight back to work with some bland noodles with salt

just Glass noodles you dump hot water over qnd coffee for me tonight lol

[short spire]

No idea how these images work, or how they are supposed to be referenced, but it looks like this one isn't working. I've noticed a few others like this as well such as the "Stagged Mephit (HiHat).png" on the Lifeforms page . https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Oxygen_Generator

[jade solstice]

does the image exist yet?

[short spire]

There's one on the Blueprints page, so I assume so

[crude vigil]

Text are going outbound on the infoboxes

[jade solstice]

can you send me the link for that page

i have a theory

[vague marten]

tbh that banner shouldn't really be there

but i'll clean up the styling of it regardless

[short spire]

The blueprints page? https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Blueprints

[agile spindle]

you can remove the spoiler if you like, i didnt know it looked like that on mobile

[jade solstice]

i cant find that oxgen generator

[agile spindle]

There is no object called "Oxygen Generator", it's called "Deployable Oxygen Generator" and it already has a page

[drifting cave]

why are we making another page for the portable oxygen generator ?

[jade solstice]

yeah

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Portable_Oxygen_Generator

[vague marten]

someone just made the banner with a copy of the styling from fandom - the fixes we made for the sn1 banners are being used on that one now instead of the old fandom styling, so it should look better on mobile, though those banners still take a lot of space on mobile and it's usually best to just get rid of them whenever possible

[agile spindle]

agreed

[jade solstice]

the Cicada was carrying at minimum 74 lifepods

[primal geode]

It's portable oxygen generator so the reference is wrong
The hihat and 2 other lifeforms don't have photos so they can't be referenced like that

[tight harness]

just remove the spoiler warning stuff its ugly and wikis will always have spoilers

[jade solstice]

we launched the Lifepod from Lifepod hold 73 and next to it the ripped apart remnants of Hold 74 are visible

[short spire]

I wasn't, I must have just referenced the wrong thing. I guess someone had started to make it or something because it let me reference it and even took me to the page I showed in my screenshot

[dire agate]

any good locations for bases?

[crude vigil]

There is no way of accessing the subnautica 2 wiki on mobile from the home page of the first one

[primal geode]

I've been meaning to bring a related thing up

[crude vigil]

Also maybe this page https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Subnautica_2 should be removed

[agile spindle]

we could move all that info to the page on SN2 wiki and change that one to a redirect

[ruby widget]

@vague marten did you break the POI template?

[vague marten]

someone with admin on sn1 can make a copy of this gadget over there and add a sn2 link to the list

[vague marten]

nope, haven't touched it since i made it

[primal geode]

sure, it has the link on pc, but I'm somewhat afraid of how many people will be able to find it
especially with only the sn1 wiki coming up on a google search, I think a direct "there is also a sn2 wiki here" could maybe be warranted

[vague marten]

the documentation might be messed up a bit right now tho

i'm messing with the documentation of all templates right now

[vague marten]

that one in particular should be fixed now

[short spire]

There is a documentation page somewhere?

[vague marten]

each template has individual documentation pages for them

[short spire]

Ahh okay

[ruby widget]

ty

[fluid vale]

does wiki have a built in feature to see click rate or site traffic?

ie to see most viewed or least viewed pages

for clean up purposes

[ruby widget]

welp i fixed welcome center and camp one. old habitat can wait im off to go shopping

[vague marten]

admins can see most viewed pages in the last 30 days

[fluid vale]

ah

[sleek thistle]

this is the top 20ish

[fluid vale]

good to know

[ruby widget]

i swear im going to put lots of effort into the periscope crab page.

with like a million pictures

subnautica 1 had the cuddlefish and we have the periscope crab

[tight harness]

Related, here are the most popular searches that don't go to a page https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:SearchDigest

[fluid vale]

cool gives us a good idea of what should and shouldnt be created

should we redirect Egg to Deepwing Egg Clump

?

egg is very generic

im guessing most searches for egg are because of SN1

[primal geode]

I think they want to find creature eggs

yeah

[tight harness]

not everything necessarily has a "proper" page to go to

but a lot of them will

[primal geode]

ending is maybe a big one
I think it should go to story, when that gets expanded

[drifting cave]

would these be the correct descriptions to add to the seabases page? just straight from the game with the power info on the side

[agile spindle]

yea looks good

[drifting cave]

alright, thanks. i'm almost done with the page so i just wanted to make sure i wasn't wasting my time doing all this

[fluid vale]

does anomaly deserve a page

im leaning towards no

[tight harness]

seems like it should point to something though, what are those 36 people looking for?

[fluid vale]

probably what Anomaly scanning does in the scanner station

or list of anomalies

afaik it only points to funny dev rock formations or the axum village atm

maybe some more things

[agile spindle]

im not really sure what anomalies are

like they just seem to point to caves

[crude vigil]

I’m going to try to screenshot the maximum of fragments wrecks, builds and items IG as well as try to find the coordinates of every colonist bunker and each wreck including unnamed. Help is appreciated

[dire monolith]

There is a page for "Standard Foundation" that says its a flat seabase module that you can build seabases on (Im assuming like previous Subnautica titles). However, I dont believe these are in the game, are they planned to be added or something?

[crude vigil]

Each ore needs small medium and large images formatted in a gallery

[agile spindle]

ill delete it, it's not in game and the page was created before release

[dire monolith]

Thanks!

[vague marten]

dependencylist 🎉

[summer kindle]

Yeah these were in the builder menu in prerelease

And superconducting foundation

Which I will also delete

[dire monolith]

Haha thats so funny I just came across that page as well and was about to say something

[summer kindle]

I made pages for all the base modules that were in the builder menu in prerelease footage

[dire monolith]

Yeah that makes sense

[summer kindle]

Back then

[crude vigil]

Someone knows how to extract 3d models from the game ?

[bright elbow]

are there tadpole fragments near first base? cant seem to find them

[dire monolith]

There is also a page called "Pulse Control" which is probably an older version of the current biomod "Oxygen Control". Oxygen control doesn't have a page yet

[short spire]

Suggestion: We switch the current header icon for the NoA icon. Not sure if it's possible, but it would be pretty sick I think

For context:

[vague marten]

any admin can just upload a new version of [[sn2:File:MainPageHeader.png]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/File:MainPageHeader.png

[agile spindle]

will do that next 👍

[vague marten]

and depending on the icon size you might have to adjust the padding-left here https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/MediaWiki:Vector.css#L-375--L-380

[vernal cypress]

Incase you need it

[agile spindle]

saves me the trouble of looking for it, thanks 😄

[tough kernel]

Hi, does anyone know where to find the wall mount subnautica 2 ?

[jade solstice]

on walls

also wrong channel

[agile spindle]

{{sn2:Navbox Items}} and {{sn2:Navbox Seabases}} are done btw

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Template:Navbox_Items
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Navbox_Seabases?action=edit&redlink=1

[jade solstice]

the text is only visible in source editing

[agile spindle]

woops it linked sn1

[jade solstice]

the seabasase one is even funnier

[agile spindle]

anyway you just throw those templates at the bottom of relevant pages just above the categories

[jade solstice]

the wiki wants me to create the page

[vernal cypress]

I feel like the old icon was more readable

[jade solstice]

the seabase one doesnt exist according to the wiki

[agile spindle]

ignore the links wiki bot posted

[jade solstice]

its confused

[dire monolith]

I just created pages for all of the biomods that didnt have one already, please lmk if I did something wrong

[jade solstice]

can you send me the code youd need to make page sections collapsed
for the faction pages to be able to have both the product and equipment sections up without it cluttering

[agile spindle]

im not sure how to do that off the top of my head

but it's fine if it goes long, not a big issue

[jade solstice]

no its mainly because of alterra rn as their products are also equipment in many cases but not all of their equipment is actually confirmed a stheir products

but both lists open would be a mess because of that

but ill focuse on the other stuff for now

[vague marten]

the 2 just always crushes the text too much, the one currently on sn1 is a bit better, but the text is a bit smaller than that one we originally used - favicons with any text are always tough

[agile spindle]

CSS is taking forever to update: I uploaded a much high-res version of the image, does the CSS need to change? I'm worried the icon will be 5x bigger

[vague marten]

it's the cloudflare cache that needs to update, since it's using filepath:// in the css for that image, idk how long the cloudflare cache takes - @sleek thistle [[sn2:File:MainPageHeader.png]] used in [[sn2:MediaWiki:Vector.css]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/File:MainPageHeader.png
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/MediaWiki:Vector.css

[sleek thistle]

there seems to be something a bit weird happening with image cache invalidation

what's the exact url being used in the css background? like possibly with a url parameter

I can manually purge it at least

[vague marten]

no cb appended currently

[leaden plinth]

It also points to the coral crab tower thing where the first blight node is

[vague marten]

looks like https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/images/MainPageHeader.png?828dc

interesting that url is also showing the old favicon lol

[agile spindle]

i knew it!

[vague marten]

xD i can fix that

[primal geode]

where are the names, and their respective areas and depths from?

[agile spindle]

names mentioned by lore or internal dev names mostly

the depths are based on some game data(?)

[primal geode]

why do the shallows start at 3m what 😭
but I'm thinking of going through pages and listing depths and biomes for things

[agile spindle]

that would be fantastic, i think we are still missing some pages for biomes

[primal geode]

ugh
love the region - biome - area distinction as a player
despise it as someone trying to make sense of where things are

[agile spindle]

We only consider leviathans to be leviathans if it explicitly calls them that in the databank right? So Coral Crab and Great Jaw do not count

[primal geode]

it feels redundant to do the change, when we know for a fact they are leviathans, and it'd have to be reverted in the next patch, but idk

[agile spindle]

why do we know for a fact they are leviathans?

[primal geode]

we have been told so explicitly numerous times

[agile spindle]

where/when?

[primal geode]

the discord, I'll look for the messages

#subnautica-2-chat message worth mentioning here that the hycean is specifically NOT a leviathan
#subnautica-2-chat message shiver
#subnautica-2-chat message coral crab
#subnautica-2-chat message clam

I guess the shiver isn't really necessary here, but I happened to find it
I could also find ones for the collector and deepwing brooder, but that feels super useless to do

[agile spindle]

shiver, collector, and deepwing are referred to as leviathans in the databank

thanks for this! i will add references and put it on the leviathans page

[primal geode]

I'm fairly certain there are clearer ones, too, those were just the ones I found first

it's more of a pain to find them now that people actuallly play the game and can talk about all of this
it was so much easier when the only people who really knew this were those of us regularly speculating on the sn2 chat

[jade solstice]

SN1 location and equipment info got a first add before i go to bed in a moment

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Architects

Torgal Corp is prob next

[agile spindle]

nice! my one note is that cut content shouldnt be mentioned outside of trivia

[jade solstice]

ill work on it more anyways prob

[strong apex]

how come there's a recipe field in the item infobox when recipes have their own section anyways?

[sacred dune]

blue pent for the pent page idk who to tag (stright north of lifepod for better pic)

[strong apex]

there's already blue pent on there

[sacred dune]

bru

[vague marten]

yea we've been deciding whether to get rid of that - right now it's slightly useful because it shows the item names in text rather than just the images like the recipe section, but the recipe templates might be tweaked at some point to show the names

[strong apex]

fair enough just figured i'd ask

[primal geode]

I'm kinda divided on if these are really better, but it's all I could really find
I swear there exist more tho
#subnautica-2-chat message crab
#subnautica-2-chat message clam

[strong apex]

wait so are the hyceans leviathans or not?

[agile spindle]

the second one contradicts the first one 😭

[strong apex]

these messages contradict eachother 😭

[wanton belfry]

j

[strong apex]

strontium is required to repair the turbine but that's not listed under recipes on the strontium page, should it be?

im not exactly sure how that would look

[dire monolith]

Just realized Ive been editing the wiki for three and half hours straight 😭

[agile spindle]

i dont think it's needed, it's not really a recipe that can be crafted multiple times it's just a one-time story goal

however you could note on the page that it is used in that way

[strong apex]

what section should i put that in

[agile spindle]

just in the first section ig

[lost idol]

anyone able to tell me how to get through the angel comb in the alien area?

[agile spindle]

#subnautica-2-chat could help, or potentially the wiki page: https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom

[lost idol]

i tried

they wont answer

[dire monolith]

When listing the depth for the pioneer seabases, is there some preferred place in reference to the base for me to list the depth or should I just take a depth that generally fits lol

[lost idol]

how do i get through the armored cankers?

[agile spindle]

i think deepest applicable depth makes sense

[smoky lagoon]

How do I get the metal farms?

[agile spindle]

Please use the wiki or ask in #subnautica-2-chat , that page I linked is actually quite informative

[primal geode]

or right it does
yeah that was a thing for a bit, but the hyceans are absolutely not leviathans
the databank doesn't say they are, and it has been confirmed numerous times they aren't, even by Sascha himself later on

[summer kindle]

A different dev confirmed Sascha was incorrect here later

Can’t find it

[agile spindle]

yea sanchu linked a good quote for the hycean

[jade solstice]

nice how i can work here

[primal geode]

#subnautica-2-chat message I think we most definitely used this one from anthony

[jade solstice]

back on the old wiki they actually diddnt want the detailed equipment and character info i added and allmost treated the wiki more like a guide

one idea i never got to add back than was that i suggested that yhe vehicle page should get mentioned vehicles added as well

back than it only had playables

[primal geode]

should there be something note about the two variations? https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Moonpool

[ashen olive]

the water rentention biomod page is wrong, it doubles ur water intake it doesnt slow down water loss

[summer kindle]

Yes

I assume we don’t have full breakdowns on all the different base part variations yet

[agile spindle]

we are the same people as on the old wiki 😅

[jade solstice]

i mean specific people

[agile spindle]

it's like i said before for cut content, it shouldn't be mentioned outside of trivia

in response to the vehicles

[summer kindle]

What do you mean?

For example

[jade solstice]

heres all vehicles in SN1:

Aurora
Degasi
Sunbeam
Seamoth
Cyclops
Neptune Escape Rocket
PRAWN Mk III
Forklifts
Seaglide

[strong apex]

it should probably be specifically vehicles the player can drive/create

[jade solstice]

old page had only Cyclops, Seamoth and Neptune

[agile spindle]

Vehicles just isnt really a lore page

[jade solstice]

well its a Vehicle page though not a playable page

non playables could be an extra section

[agile spindle]

it only exists to route people who want to see what vehicles they can make

[jade solstice]

maybe we could lists that one as Playable Vehicles instead

theres def gonna be peopel who are interested in a Vehicle Lore page

[agile spindle]

honestly i dont agree

I don't see people going "I want to see all the different kinds of vehicles" and hope to see spaceships and forklifts

[jade solstice]

well i know from experience how interested people can get into vehicles

[jade solstice]

well my thought was that they could be in an extra section at the bottom for unplayable vehicles

for one it could be interesting for people to see

and well this is a wiki and not just a simply game Guide that would only focus on the playables

anyways gotta sleep

[strong apex]

do i have to manually update the uses item list

[agile spindle]

no but it might take a bit to update

[strong apex]

alright

[dire monolith]

There's a page for "Basic First Aid Kit" that I assume is just an old page for the First Aid Kit

[primal geode]

there's two first aid kits, that page is intentional

[dire monolith]

Its not the same page tho

[primal geode]

oh?

[agile spindle]

i redirected it, thats the old name for the first aid kit

[dire monolith]

Yeah thats what I assumed

[primal geode]

wait why the redirect?
it's basic first aid kit and enhanced first aid kit in-game
shouldn't the pages reflect that?

[agile spindle]

It's called First Aid Kit in game

[primal geode]

it's not

[dire monolith]

Regardless it was just an empty page when there was already a page fulfilling its purpose

[agile spindle]

you're right... why was i so convinced it was first aid kit?

i gotta change so much stuff 😭

[dire monolith]

Well Im glad I brought it up because I didnt notice the name was wrong either lol

[primal geode]

at least it was noticed early I guess??
but I noticed something similar when I... whatever I was doing
but the image names

[jade solstice]

thats how i get sometimes when i work on wiki stuff deep into the night until i can barely keep ky eyes open and keep drifting away loosing focuse on ahats on my screen

[primal geode]

I thought it was First Aid Kit but the file was Basic... so

[strong apex]

theres a map online that lists North Raceway and South Raceway as biomes, and they're not on the wiki

is the map wrong

[agile spindle]

it's a work in progress

[primal geode]

the sn2 wiki map is
all other maps online are entirely independent from the wiki

[thorn shadow]

Are the shrimp guys even in game

[primal geode]

the what

[thorn shadow]

The crimson shrimp

[knotty nimbus]

According to some online maps, yes

Never seen them though

[agile spindle]

me neither

[strong apex]

literally never heard of them

[knotty nimbus]

I’ve also never seen a Teal Cyclolet or whatever it’s called

[dire monolith]

What are veps 💀

Is it something mentioned in-game or just in this discord?

[late island]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/images/Sn2_Map_Biomes_EA_v2.png?fd982 can someone update this map at some point?

it still erroneously lists Necrolei Hills and Anemone Hills as two separate locations

and doesn't have Lead Zone on it? though maybe there's a reason for that

[primal geode]

also dolerite hills are a thing, but are they really dolerite hills or -spires

[agile spindle]

the Veps are mentioned and shown in the museum monologue

[primal geode]

I was going to do stuff with biomes, but there's so much stuff going on in that map, I'll wait for the finished one of the wiki

[strong apex]

another map calls it Tufa Towers

[late island]

I've seen it called Dolerite Towers too

[late island]

Tufa Towers is in the Karakorum region

[strong apex]

the map im looking at is wrong then

[late island]

which map are you looking at?

[strong apex]

website called mapgenie

[dire monolith]

Makes sense I was not paying attention to that lol

[strong apex]

do the biomes have any official names anyways

[late island]

Guess we'd have to find out where they got their map and mapnames from

[strong apex]

no idea

[late island]

but Tufa definitely feels like the wrong name because Tufa rocks are found in the Karakorum region

not the shallows

[agile spindle]

it's from Unreal Engine technical shenanigans, there's a few people working on making a map for the wiki atm

[late island]

If we can get stuff like this map working for more users that would be huge

[strong apex]

https://mapgenie.io/subnautica-2/maps/world no idea what the sources for any of these are

it also lists four collectors

so take it with a grain of salt

[primal geode]

the 3 collectors above the trench could mean spawn points

[vague marten]

@late island when you get a chance you may want to look at the table border radius stuff, there's a lot of weird edge cases it's messed up on, like <templatedata> tables and module parser profile tables - tbh, i think it might just be best to get rid of the table border radius, too many edge cases but if you're able to fix them that'd be fine too (tho it might need to be a bit less rounded, it clips into some text sometimes)

[primal geode]

what is the trench actually called anyway
I've seen tar pits
tar cascades
sparse plains
graveyead...

[strong apex]

graveyard is the hot biome

ive seen tar cascades and sparse plains

the prior is what it's called on the wiki rn

it lists sparse plains as the region and tar cascades as the name of the actual biome

[knotty nimbus]

Aren’t there also maps of the world out there with a lot of unfinished regions shown?

[strong apex]

not sure

the only ones i've seen are the ones i linked and the one on the wiki

[kindred sapphire]

only if you agro it and lure it in bounds

[strong apex]

i havent been looking very hard though to be fair

[tight harness]

We have generated this image and are licensing it for use on the wiki

actually this one might even be better

[strong apex]

it's sideways but otherwise very cool

[late island]

Oh where'd you get this from?

[agile spindle]

ohh i didnt see vilguax's image yet

[tight harness]

a weird gloopian generated it

[strong apex]

this one looks higher quality

[primal geode]

okay but like
(obvious warning but still, this image is though screencaps so the resolution is messed up please don't really use it)

[vague marten]

that one's from @vernal cypress #📚wiki-discussion message

[late island]

It would be nice to know who specifically and how, so that the rest of us can update it easier

if not we're still probably gonna want to look into enabling Diag Map

[strong apex]

the other one still looks higher quality

[tight harness]

His name is Alex, still working on getting actual reproduction steps but wanted to share the image here in case its useful

[late island]

it definitely should be useful still

[tight harness]

installed UE4SS (dynamic lua runtime for modding) and wrote a script that spawns in an actor with a SceneCapture2DComponent (camera backed by a run-time render target) + a WorldPartitionStreamingSourceComponent (for forcing the engine to load in level cells when the capture component's being repositioned), sets up the capture component, then moves the component around, runs a capture, writes the texture to a file, moves onto the next tile. then i stitch the tiles using vips (or rather vips bindings for python)
quote from alex, don't know what half of it means but maybe it inspires someone

[knotty nimbus]

Ah yeah this was the image I was thinking of

[primal geode]

rq, not map related, but has anyone figured what's up with the haul docking?

[knotty nimbus]

Does it not work for everyone else too?

[primal geode]

ehhhhhh

it's super weird

I'm trying to figure this out

[summer kindle]

Why’s there more terrain here

[dire monolith]

I feel like I’ve gotten it to work?

Maybe not tho

[primal geode]

1. it always spawns me eastward upon undocking
2. it DOESN'T work when docking from directly ahead, but does work at weird angles

I'm trying with another base that's lined up directly east, I feel like the dock might not position itself correctly in the world, as far as the engine is concerned

[knotty nimbus]

Does it not exist in-game? I kind of wanted to go looking to see if it exists

[primal geode]

that wouldn't be a problem for the smaller command module and scout ray, but would be for the haul, if it's trying to see the size of the moonpool in a certain direction

[vernal cypress]

i dont see any

[knotty nimbus]

So that giant trench to the north of the power plant isn’t real 😭

[primal geode]

same?

could the "GameplayZoo" be rendered somewhere outside the actual bounds of the map? don't games typically have this kind of stuff either above or below the play area

thought that really doesn't hold water for that long

[red fog]

I've been fighting with it but I think I figured out the current mechanics

[knotty nimbus]

I’m gonna need to figure out how to install a cheat mod to figure out what’s going on

[vernal cypress]

nah its not loaded into the main map

[primal geode]

do tell

also did anyone else notice the scout ray hitbox is the wrong way around

[knotty nimbus]

Is that why I keep running into invisible walls when trying to pull up to my base

[primal geode]

yes

[red fog]

Yeah there's currently no horizontal extension to the hitbox

[red fog]

I'll write it out

[primal geode]

the hitbox is as if the wings would visually be folded up, when NOT docked
WHEN docked, the wings would visually be folded down
this allows the scout ray chassis to go to narrow caves

[dire monolith]

I was wondering why I could fit through things I definitely shouldn’t be able to

[primal geode]

in mp it's clear the wings just clip through terrain

[dire monolith]

That’s funny

[somber bone]

question: are the "regions" in the wiki an actual thing? Like are they an actual defined thing that the biomes are located in?

[primal geode]

actually, there IS a horizontal hitbox, but it's roughly the size of the white area

[dire monolith]

Yeah so the wings hardly come into play

[true plank]

I got a question. So I was wondering is there eggs? Cause google Said there is but I can not seem to find any.

[red fog]

No eggs atm

[true plank]

Ah will there be eggs and aquariums In a future update?

[red fog]

Google summary was probably sourcing from Sub 1 data

[true plank]

Ah yeah most likely

[somber bone]

could somebody please answer my question regarding regions?

[red fog]

I would think so, but I do not know

Prbably a safe bet to hope for it

[true plank]

Hopefully cause it was so cool!

[red fog]

I agree!

[primal geode]

yet another correction, THIS is the approximate hitbox
(left side is more accurate)

[somber bone]

where did we get the names for the biomes from? where was the information given to us?

[strong apex]

i definitely felt like i was squeezing through tighter gaps then i should have been

[primal geode]

wellll......

[dire monolith]

That definitely seems normal and intended 👍

[somber bone]

hello?

[red fog]

I'm currently unsure

[somber bone]

to which question? the region or biome one?

[drifting cave]

some of them were told to us, i know that for sure

such as the graveyard biome

[somber bone]

i dont know why they named it that, I really wish it was more on theme

but im glad it was given by the devs

[drifting cave]

i'd assume it's because of the high number of pioneer blackboxes

[red fog]

Biome names yeah

[somber bone]

what names do we not know for sure?

[knotty nimbus]

Feels like all the dead crabs should be called the graveyard

[somber bone]

where were they?

in the graveyard?\

[dire monolith]

Isn’t that the graveyard caves

[somber bone]

i think so yeah

[drifting cave]

they are mostly in the graveyard biome

[knotty nimbus]

Next to the graveyard, and you can find some going down into the graveyard as well. (Perhaps the crabs have Masefield)

[primal geode]

so it turns out the left and right scout ray chassis hitbox is just the normal tadpole one
I went as close as possible

[somber bone]

interesting! I never connected that.

[drifting cave]

every creature in the world has masefield, as soon as you touch the water you get it

[red fog]

Okay yeah I was pretty sure there wasn't a difference

[somber bone]

are there multiple crabs on the map? ive only seen a single set spawn

[knotty nimbus]

It’s cool environmental storytelling though!

[somber bone]

do we have the name for the shallows biome? I always thought it was coral gardens

[drifting cave]

there are i think around three living ones, and a lot more dead ones

[dire monolith]

There are multiple

[somber bone]

such a low number. I see

[primal geode]

also applies to the haul (which isn't really unsurprising)

[somber bone]

are the crabs leviathan class lifeforms? the pda's dont do very good at discerning them

[primal geode]

there will be a leviathan tab in the next update, but they are leviathans

[somber bone]

alright, well thats good to hear

[primal geode]

1

[primal geode]

2

[somber bone]

are the regions an actual thing defined in game or by the devs, or are the regions something defined by the wiki/other people?

[primal geode]

the tadpole has VERY different collisions between players and the environment

[knotty nimbus]

I’ve just made the connection that maybe Masefield (specifically it calling you to the tree) only impacts you if you’re already dying. Like if you’re dying you’re called to the roots to die there, hence why there’s so many dead crabs but only some of them seemingly died because of Masefield. All the Pioneers are just affected greatly by it because they’re dying of all the metal unlike protean life.

[ashen pagoda]

Anyone else having issues using vehicle mod stations to change colours of their vehicles. Interacting with the mod stations always just triggers the rename section.

S1, on Switch 2 running Switch 2 patch.

Also is there any indication of future updates fixes of these older titles now that devs are working on S2 Early Access?

[drifting cave]

this is not the right channel for that

please take this to #subnautica-chat

[ashen pagoda]

Apologies. And will do.

[drifting cave]

it's kind of a mix

[somber bone]

could you please elaborate?

[drifting cave]

actually wait, are you speaking on names or just the reach of an area ?

[somber bone]

im really loving the story so far, genuinely already topped sub 1 and 2

[somber bone]

im asking if the concept of regions in general are an actual thing in game/cited by devs

or did people just group up biomes and slap a name on them because theyre clustered

[drifting cave]

they are

[red fog]

Currently, this size of moonpool has yielded no issues re. docking and undocking mechanics

[somber bone]

do you know where we get this information from?

[knotty nimbus]

Some of the level designers have talked about regions. I assume right now they’re the coral area and the observatory/alien area

[drifting cave]

it's from in-game

there are only three regions currently, that being "Coral Gardens", "Karakorum", and the "Sparse Plains"

[somber bone]

i hope theres a multitude of them. it seems like these "regions" all share a similar general structure with biomes that create variety. i would love to have many, many regions. i hope theres more than just a handful. especially since biomes within a region have a similar structure/dont stand out as much from eachother.

[somber bone]

where are they named?

[primal geode]

and au contraire, 7 wide, 8 long is the smallest I've gotten to work

[strong apex]

how did you make it yellow i've never seen that

[primal geode]

still trying tho

[primal geode]

this is funny to me hold on

[summer kindle]

Anthony specified that they had 2 regions and multiple biomes

[primal geode]

Here, the funny

[somber bone]

do we know where they are named

[summer kindle]

If Anthony hadn’t specified regions I don’t think we would have come to that naturally

[strong apex]

coral gardens is referred to by name multiple times in game

dunno abt the others

[knotty nimbus]

I don’t think Karakorum is the current alien area because I’m not seeing any telescopes spying on the world tree. At one point I think in-game it’s called the protected zone?

[agile spindle]

the way the map is laid out really splits it into two distinct sections though

[drifting cave]

the karakorum area is too in voice logs

[red fog]

Mine is expanded 3 "units" in all dimensions atm from the standard moonpool

[summer kindle]

true

[strong apex]

they could just not be added yet

[summer kindle]

isn’t that the observatory

[red fog]

My biggest issue was just not having any walls or other building components within like 3 "units" of the moonpool

[agile spindle]

Karakorum is the name of the power plant

[knotty nimbus]

I mean, maybe? The Axum writing isn’t the clearest

[dire monolith]

Aren’t the metal fields also called Karakorum tho

[dire agate]

Yeah the observatory/museum used to be the primary telescope before it was destroyed and eventually reconstructed, once they did that they made other more advanced ones.

[agile spindle]

Karakorum is kinda taken as the defacto name of the area around the power plant

[summer kindle]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[dire monolith]

That’s what I figured, anything Axum in that area is Karakorum

[red fog]

I might be wrong, but it almost seems like the game passes a check pre-docking for anything near the moonpool boundaries (irrespective of moonpool size), and then prohibits docking if any walls or anything is within the zone

[primal geode]

my smallest so far (I'm in the process of messing with the walls)

[red fog]

I like this

[somber bone]

genuine question, what is karakorum? is it just the name of the power plant? kind of like the name of a city?

[agile spindle]

.

[red fog]

I'm trying to see what size is required to fit the vehicle builder and tadpole w/ HAUL at the same time

[somber bone]

i see, thank you. so the region is named after the massive power plant?

[agile spindle]

yup

[somber bone]

also, where did people get that one image of the map from?

and where is the sparse plains region mentioned?

[red fog]

1. Open your builder tool
2. Select the moonpool blueprint to build
3. Hover over a currently-laid moonpool border
4. Use M1 to "change moonpool variant"

[strong apex]

omg wtf

ive never noticed that

[red fog]

Yeah it seems that as you go smaller (even +2 from all directions of the base moonpool size) then it starts to get finicky with approach angles

[primal geode]

so far I have had no issue docking specifically with a heading directly west for whatever reason???

[red fog]

Yeah it's currently biased to east-west movement which is weird

so if your docking station is either east or west you also avoid some extra weird bugs/quirks

But yeah at least +3 in all directions from base size seemed to resolve most issues

[primal geode]

smallest command module dock (also works for scout ray) and smallest haul dock

[red fog]

But the "no-wall" clause is particularly weird

Yeah so even with an extra bit of space the fabricator remains incompatible with HAUL docking

Total of 13 units (moonpool bricks) between the dock and the fabricator seems to be the minimum required for both in the same moonpool w/o any issues whatsoever

[primal geode]

are you counting the inside tiles, or including the outside

[red fog]

Oh inside tiles yes

Should've specified

[primal geode]

yeah I just realized myself lol

but using method B (inside tiles)
6x6 is the smallest I still got it working with the vehicle fabricator (this is also the smallest possible in general, for the haul)

[somber bone]

has the coral gardens been confirmed to be the name of the region or the name of the shallows area?

[strong apex]

yes

thats what it's called in game

[somber bone]

yes to which

[red fog]

Okay interesting

[strong apex]

oh i misread

the region

[red fog]

How is your fabricator oriented relative to the dock

[somber bone]

when?

[strong apex]

i dont remember when

theres lots of voice logs though

[somber bone]

man

i dont remember it

[primal geode]

opposite

[radiant hearth]

why is this happening in the wiki chat lol

[red fog]

Are there approach angle dependencies atm with docking?

[radiant hearth]

wait what

[primal geode]

but I am docking bearing east

[radiant hearth]

no slowmode??

gold

[primal geode]

absolutely

[radiant hearth]

i understand it now

[strong apex]

this is because the people here are more intelligent than the general chat

[red fog]

Okay yeah really interesting the way it is atm

[primal geode]

I've been trying to figure the angle limits out but it's super inconsistent

[red fog]

Yes 100%

[strong apex]

there's no energy costs displayed on base components i'm gonna go add those

[red fog]

I'd really like it see the code tbh

Bc it seems like there's a bunch of overalapping clauses that need to be fulfilled for a successful dock with HAUL

Actually, you know what testing it with friends riding along in co-op would be interesting bc of the added seats

that might give some clarity

or maybe not

But that could be a reason why its so different

[hollow venture]

I'm trying to update the page on the Tongue Thief, adding its PDA description and some basic notes on its description and behaviour, and its saying its harmful

I have literally copied verbatim what the description is, and it says inappropriate language

[tight harness]

try removing the word sex

[hollow venture]

It worked

I've added [insert word here] in its place

But generally speaking, the Tongue Thief now has a proper page

Which is good, beacause I thought they were very cool

[tight harness]

wtf I can't even save this 😂

[hollow venture]

Save what?

Was my formatting off?

[tight harness]

I thought it would let me save it with the word sex

[hollow venture]

Ah

[tight harness]

but the filter is blocking me

[hollow venture]

How did you get the Wiki Keeper role also?

[sand blaze]

I download subnautica 2 on emic and its going very lag. only me or is a bug

[vague marten]

lol is staff group not in the filter's exclude

[primal geode]

so like
I'm going through different bearings right now trying to see which work
all of north - east work for whatever reason, EXCEPT directly north??????

[hollow venture]

Well anyway, It's cool to know I made one of the pages in the Wiki at least

[tight harness]

okay try editing it now, I removed sex from the filter since it appears in databank entries

[tight harness]

truthfully idk, I'm one of the staff that run the server the wiki is on thats the only reason they gave it to me 😛

[hollow venture]

Cool beans

Also sex has been added to the Tongue Thieves

(funny sentence)

[red fog]

Okay this is genuinely super interesting

[strong apex]

i updated the infobox base template to include an energy cost field, but its not showing up on any of the pages after adding them, do i just need to wait or did i do smth wrong

[red fog]

Current moonpool size? (method B)

[agile spindle]

i dont think that edit went through, ill add it though

[strong apex]

ty!

still learning

[agile spindle]

are you good with it being "Energy"? so that it can work for generators and appliances

[vague marten]

all the infoboxes are in lua, so you have to update the module to actually change what's in them [[sn2:Module:Infobox Base]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Infobox_Base

[strong apex]

yeah that works

[agile spindle]

should be updated

[strong apex]

ty

[agile spindle]

btw if you can, add {{Navbox Base}} to the bottom of seabase module pages please 🙏

[vague marten]

updating the documentation templatedata like you did just adds the param to the visual editor, but doesn't actually make the module itself do anything with that param

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Navbox_Base?action=edit&redlink=1

[strong apex]

ohh i see

[strong apex]

sure

[primal geode]

6x6, as small as the walls can be, with the vehicle fab
ALSO there's a floating, invisible object beside the base 😭
(the wall can't be closer due to the fabricator)

[strong apex]

just double checking, this?

[agile spindle]

thats the one

[primal geode]

tip
the feedback resonator is super useful for checking environment collisions

okay leaving this here to remember
for me, this session, there is an invisible collision at -335969, 428098, -743

[strong apex]

for some reason the biobed displays energy consumption even though it doesnt use any energy

[red fog]

Fascinating

[primal geode]

the tadpole and it's chassis do too

[finite rock]

@vernal cypress could you get me some coordinates so that I could make a map? I'm looking for coordinates for all the bloom nodes

then I can overlay those on the world map render we got the other day

[agile spindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom#Bloom_Locations

[finite rock]

oh whoops, I skimmed over the N/As and thought they were just missing

can you view coords in game? I know in sn1 you can pull up the panel but in sn2 you cant (without mods) right?

[vernal cypress]

Pause menu

[primal geode]

does this game progressively just break the more you play it
I'm still trying to make sense of the docking but it gets worse and worse

[finite rock]

are there two different coord systems? Im seeing -3454, 4659 on [[sn2:Great Jaw]] but numbers 100x that on the [[sn2:Bloom]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Great_Jaw
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom

[finite rock]

im guessing it's just a level of precision difference

[agile spindle]

i doubt those great jaw coordinates are accurate, i will retake them when i get a chance

[primal geode]

this is how it is in game

[primal geode]

I'm loaded in, I can do it

now just where is it... anyone got the coords? (/j)

[vernal cypress]

yeah its wrong

[primal geode]

I JUST got here

[vernal cypress]

oh cmon

[primal geode]

yeahhhh

[vernal cypress]

-357715.933, 442373.285, -8025.044 
-119926.158, 422838.831, -40214.293 
-189858.736, 456716.390, -31900.704 
-221496.139, 428564.045, -20262.271 

All BlightNode location or whatever they're called ingame

BloomNode

[primal geode]

anyways
I'm finished with testing different headings for docking with the haul
LITERALLY everything else worked, but after 10 tries EACH
315, 330, & 345 do not work
This ought to be tested with bases in other orientations, and maybe different instances and games for good measure

[strong apex]

@agile spindle added the navbox to all the seabase pages

[knotty nimbus]

After intense research I have determined Deepwing Brooders appear to swim past the turbine at a depth of around 70 meters and past the observatory at a depth of around 10 meters and then go somewhere into the Collector's region, presumably doing a loop. It was night and I was too scared to follow.

And by Collector's region I mean southwest of the Observatory where there is some more Sparse Plains

[finite rock]

do we have the origin and the size of the map? idk if ue enforces actually bounds but just knowing the max and min coords in the corners here would be very helpful

seems like x->0 or x=0 on the right bound and y->0 or y=0 on the top bound (so top right is origin?)

then all i would need is the opposite corners coords

[vernal cypress]

Im working on a better version but when I rendered that one the center of the this picture was -250000.0 433000.0 iirc

[finite rock]

gotcha. If we want to make a map on the wiki out of this, the current tech needs the origin ("top right", "bottom right", etc) and the minX, minY, and maxX, maxY coordinates

[red fog]

I have information re. the in-game consequences of the Epicurean-Tongue Thief parasitism (e.g. sonic resonator to dislodge the Tongue Thief, images of the Tongue Thief attached to the Epicurean and the bloated stomach, etc.). Would this be better suited for the Epicurean or Tongue Thief entry?

[agile spindle]

both ;p

[red fog]

Cheers!

[knotty nimbus]

If there’s any interest in getting more story stuff on the Wiki, I just went around gathering up screenshots of NoA and Axum text that’s not easily accessible in the databank and I put it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eG4vZl7ZZRqlLFvFoOFmTclOcQ0dwwsvxjrJUMfNytE/edit

This can probably all be easily be data mined but where’s the fun in that 😛
I also imagine a popular thing people will want to know is alternate voice lines for Sophie’s ghost in the Tadpole Pens, but I do not have those.

[dire monolith]

There's a page called "Mini-bases" that has basically no information and is supposed to be for what's called "Colonist Bunkers" in the "Pioneer Seabases" page.

[strong apex]

the axum remind me of the outer wilds dlc

i wonder if there was inspiration taken

[agile spindle]

redirected 👍

[knotty nimbus]

YES this is my precise thinking

[strong apex]

especially the way the language looks

[knotty nimbus]

The architecture also vaguely reminds of it as well

[strong apex]

that was my first thought when i saw it in the trailer

[stuck turtle]

||Like other carnivorous fauna, the Reaper Leviathan will eat any fauna held in the player's hand and become temporarily pacified. The pacified time is significantly shorter compared to other carnivorous fauna.|| (not sure if this has to be spoiler-ed)

^^ I pulled this off the wiki, I just wanted to quickly ask if this is true? And does anyone have maybe a time range that the pacification works for,

[primal geode]

it is!

I added that a few weeks ago

I think?

if nothing else, I'm fairly certain my mention of it is why it is there

okay it was me yeah lol

[stuck turtle]

I’ve never seen this before, this is so neat! I thought I should ask the experts lol, the wiki is very helpful indeed

Thank you guys 🫶

[primal geode]

even I didn't know it worked with other carnivorous fauna tbh
I just asked here too and was told so

[lost idol]

yo

why will my number keys not work with the hotbar

is it a glitch?

and how to fix

[primal geode]

seems like it, but this isn't a tech support or question channel
unless you have smth about the wiki

I'd wait for an update, it IS the first ea of sn2

[stuck turtle]

Seems like some testing is an order then XP, I can definitely try it out later and report back if it works

[primal geode]

1. I checked with the reaper
2. all fish should work
3. apparently stalkers get calmed down or something by feeding them fish?

[lost idol]

where is the question chanle

[dire monolith]

Yeah you can essentially "tame" stalkers with fish

[primal geode]

you should ask in the chat of whichever of the games you are playing
#subnautica-chat #below-zero-chat #subnautica-2-chat
I doubt it will have a fix, but asking can't hurt

[stuck turtle]

Aint nothin but some long snoot big tooth puppies then, I’ll definitely feed a few of em if that’s the case

[dire monolith]

Theyre the best when they arent chomping at you

Which the fish take care of so then theyre just noisy haha

[stuck turtle]

Funny enough, I didn’t even think they attacked the player for the first while of this play through, because I just never got chased. Until I said hi to one and it bit me XP!

But I’m off to kill a reaper, so I’m resorting to the wiki to try and gather as much info as I can

[onyx fable]

I thought this the most appropriate channel in which to ask, is there a repository of all the creature sounds of Subnautica 1 listed according to their source entity?

The wiki's audio data is inconsistent, and even the Reaper's audio just links to a soundcloud track with its roars (close and distant)

[primal geode]

I'm not aware of one
I would assume the inconsistencies are from the lack of such repository, and people just recorded the sounds and uploaded them to soundcloud on their own

[onyx fable]

You can dig the sounds out of the .bank in the game files, but they're not labeled by creature, unfortunately. Some are easy to identify, like the Gastropod's sounds stand out and I could upload all of those right now, but others are a bit of a guessing game.

They're labeled by source action, so there are a bunch of "attack.wav"s lol.

here's an example. i think this is a ghost, but i'm really not sure

this is right next to this which sounds more like a sea dragon to me so iiii dunno!

[agile spindle]

@dire monolith Waxmoon already has a page https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Waxmoon

[dire monolith]

Oh what

The page I was on had a bad link so I assumed it didnt exist because it didnt appear when i tried to fix it

Mb

[agile spindle]

np

[dire monolith]

Ah it was because it had an s so it was Waxmoons instead of Waxmoon

Idk why I didnt realize that

[sullen girder]

What does the roll devWatcher do?!?!?

[red fog]

Notifies you of developer streams #📺dev-streams

[crude vigil]

Someone can run Subnautica 2 on ultra ?

For screenshots of wrecks

[primal geode]

I could but play the game on ultra, if I could play the game just now

[drifting cave]

what was bro cooking here

[jade solstice]

@agile spindle

i could use help re counting colonists and checking info on them

because we know there should only be 26

but last check i counted more, which is prob because of nicknames that werent linked to names yet

well 25 colonists plus the Player

the Databox page should be data recipe card

as thats the name im SN2

they named the Card instead of the Box this time

can someone send me screenshots of the following Blackboxes / character entries

Graveyard Caves:
Gram
Eddy
Raster
Sean
Wander 2

i missed those and cant play until in several hours

[tardy sequoia]

If someone could please fix the first row in the table for https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Databox that would be appreciated, the editor was acting up for me and I have no idea what the issue was lmao

[drifting cave]

does this look good ?

oh wait

the pictures lol

alright this good ?

[tardy sequoia]

thank you :>

[jade solstice]

i think the wrecks should be named as they appear in game though

so Cicada Wreck (Canteen)

as thats how they are in game and on the wreck page

not my call though

[tardy sequoia]

sure, feel free to do that now or I‘ll do it later

The page is also missing an infobox and a proper description as well as the boxes in the Old Habitat and the axum side of the map
I just ran out of time and am now late for class, but I‘ll take care of those later

[jade solstice]

what i am adding is that i add something to the blueprints you pick up

Databox link renamed to recipe data card

so its like in game when you pick it up

like

Moonpool recipe data card

so its clearly visible that its picked up and not scanned

[tardy sequoia]

well they’re not all recipes

[jade solstice]

@agile spindle

should we maybe move Databox to

either recipe data card (in game name and spelling)

or maybe Recipe Data Card?

[tardy sequoia]

there’s the ones that unlock scanner options

[jade solstice]

the Blackboxes are

recipe for stuff you can craft

[tardy sequoia]

some of them unlock more filtering options for the scanner station

[jade solstice]

unlocked via a recipe data card (SN2 name for Blackboxes)

[tardy sequoia]

they‘re the same object, no?

Blackboxes are not the same as Databoxes

[jade solstice]

they unlock Scanner station upgrade recipes

you jus5 dont have to install it as the system does it by itself

[jade solstice]

i meant databox

[tardy sequoia]

ehh

[jade solstice]

well when picked up they are called that

[tardy sequoia]

I wouldn’t call unlockable scanner options recipes

you don’t craft anything

[jade solstice]

its the name of the box in game

thats why

[tardy sequoia]

it is, it just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense and causes confusion for people reading it

[jade solstice]

why would it

[tardy sequoia]

I‘ll just wait for this answer, it doesn’t really matter what the page is called tbh

[jade solstice]

i just suggested it because its the name of the boxes in the game

Databoxes were renamed so i think we hould use the name they used in game

my keyboard is small

im tired lol

[tardy sequoia]

I would argue that we don’t know the name of the box itself unless extracted from the game files
It just says "take recipe data card"
we‘re not taking the entire box, just a chip with the recipe on it

[jade solstice]

yeah but in SN1 it was Blackbox

now its Recipe Data Card

they chose to name the card itself instead of the box its in in SN2

[tardy sequoia]

but this is just the prompt given to the player, not the name of the object itself

[jade solstice]

its the name of the Card you pick up

we could also use both

you Take the recipe data card from a databox

that way my added linking also still works

and we add a text on the databox page about the card you take having a name

i mean i thinks is nice that they gave us a name for the Data Card itself

[keen zealot]

Hey I have been adding GIFs to all the tools pages on the wiki, are there any other pages that could do with any GIFs?

[cerulean beacon]

Games files do not always give the right name as well. Eddy is called Eddie in the game files (and Eddy in 3 other files)

[jade solstice]

Carpe do you have eddys character entry?

need his and the others from the Graveyard Caves for the wiki

for some stuff

[cerulean beacon]

like in the DataBank or the voice lines?

but yes, i do have the graveyard dialogue

just sent it to you

[jade solstice]

no no the Databank entries

[cerulean beacon]

seems to be only the name of the scanned character (晨伟 Chen “Eddy” Wei)

btw if any devs happend to pass by, i am wondering why some characters (Rowboat and Gram for example) have their name with escape sequences for the quotation mark, while other do not

[jade solstice]

need to the info from their character entries

[supple wedge]

do we know WHAT this is>

[jade solstice]

which recording is it?

or more like where is it found

[cerulean beacon]

||ST_POI_Ch2_BlightSafetyCave.json||

[jade solstice]

that doenst help me lol

[cerulean beacon]

well i have the full dialogue, but no clue where it comes from

[jade solstice]

i meant the biom

[cerulean beacon]

so full names of the whole crew?

[jade solstice]

mainly the full entries for the Graveyard Cave

[jade solstice]

.

[cerulean beacon]

yes, the whole content of those scans is only the names. however, if you happend to have one of the string from the other characters i could look for that and get to the right lines

[jade solstice]

well named is good as well

[cerulean beacon]

||Phoebe "GRAM" Grammaticas||
||晨伟 Chen “Eddy” Wei||
||Rasa “RASTER” Niauronyte||
||Sean "SEAN" Harris||
||K. "WANDER" Wangmo||

based on the wander 2, however, im gonna assume im not in the right place, as i only have one wander...

what does the entry look like for the characters you already have

[cerulean beacon]

In any case, if that's not it, leave them empty and I will go add them afterwards

[supple wedge]

It is near the jelly leis

In a wreck blocked off by bloom

[lusty loom]

There is the Manifest, but it doesn’t contain the nicknames

[jade solstice]

i have the manifest names yes

[jade solstice]

doesnt fit in this channel

[tight spoke]

Hello everyone, does anyone know if it will be necessary to create a new world when updates are released or will everything be downloaded to the old world?

[summer kindle]

The vampire squid? Bloom parasite

[supple wedge]

that doesnt make sense

[summer kindle]

how

[supple wedge]

does it even look like a squid

[summer kindle]

Straight from the entry

Bloom Parasites are a type of Protean squid with extremely reduced or non existent tentacles

If you stuck tentacles on it then it’s easy to see it as a relative of the Bullethead

(Which is currently listed as a fish in the databank for unknowable reasons)

[ornate plume]

Listing things as the wrong category is kind of a classic for subnautica games xd I remember the old games having things listed as the wrong thing too

[summer kindle]

Well it’s only the first round

But yeah lol

Gotta love the Membrain Tree

Described in its databank entry as a symbiotic collection of microfauna and coral

placed in the flora section

[ornate plume]

yup 😭

[summer kindle]

I’m glad Proteus has an actual name

It’s much easier to talk about something being a Protean lifeform

Than it is to say a lifeform from 4546b

[supple wedge]

are bleeders squids...

[ornate plume]

Yupp, I'm actually kinda surprised we got the name for the planet so fast

[summer kindle]

4546b doesn’t really have a squid group

Bleeders are like kinda the closest I guess

[ornate plume]

Crab squid kinda

[summer kindle]

But even then that’s very superficial for the Bleeder

[summer kindle]

Also very superficial

[ornate plume]

Yeah agreed xd

Also I love that Proteus got so many crab species, it makes up for 4546b having a bunch of things named "crab x" even though it wasn't a crab

[summer kindle]

Yeah the arthropod diversity is my favourite thing so far

Even though atm several lack the ability to be scanned

[ornate plume]

Yeahh

[supple wedge]

squidshark

[ornate plume]

Same tho, I'm a big invertebrate fan and they're often underrated lol

[summer kindle]

These guys are tiny and easy to miss but I still wanna hear about them

[ornate plume]

omg i havent even noticed those yet

i gotta find them

[summer kindle]

Teal Cycloplet is in the Necrolei Hills iirc

They can be seen on rocky walls

[ornate plume]

Ooo, I gotta go back there and look for them

[summer kindle]

Also I think Crimson Shrimp were in the cinematic trailer

After Felix uses the sonic resonator you get a shot where a bunch of little crustaceans come out from the rocks

Can’t see them that well though

But they do look a bit like that

[ornate plume]

Oh yeah I see what you mean

That definitely looks like them