📚wiki-discussion

[manic field]

Gotta lock you in prison.

[grim jungle]

I'm gonna unmute Cook. Undo the crimes.

[supple wedge]

You unfortunately are not cooking technically

Or are you I'm it's it's 6 in the morning i've been up editing this wiki and playing this game for 27 hours

I'm so sleepy exhausted and I am going to immediately hop back on tomorrow to document more creature behaviors

because Sam is an insane man who decided to put all this effort into it, and literally everyone else on this team is an insane person
I went to that pit I saw the face

[manic field]

No, not the dangerous criminal!!!

You've doomed us all!!!

[supple wedge]

Donya can I snap the spine of the ghost leviathan plushie
Like can you bend the back so it's lying down flat

It looks weird standing up straight I'm scared of it

[grim jungle]

It's posable like the Reaper plushie.

[supple wedge]

I didn't buy that one I thought the colors were off

But I will be promptly snapping the spine of the ghost leviathan thank you
The ghost looks very good I enjoy it I should probably make a wiki page for it
Are we doing wiki pages for merchandise or out of universe media

Because if we do I'm still doing voice actor pages

Like it it's bad I I have like a bunch of pde written

[jade solstice]

put the info we have on to it for now so we can work from there in the future

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Alterra_Corporation

NS1 info only rn

(at least what i added)

[manic field]

@true mason you can chat here btw.

Okay, goodnight.

[true mason]

[agile spindle]

Hey, just want to make sure that you aren't erasing content on pages with your edits. There seems like there was a lot of description data and some other stuff lost in some of your edits

[true mason]

You're right, I caught it on one creature page and two items — I've reverted those. For the others the bot pulled the existing content and worked around what was already there. I've also removed the overwrite flag going forward so it won't happen again. Sorry for the disruption!

[agile spindle]

No problem- also, please try to use the exact page name of the object as the image that goes in the infobox. We already have images for most of what you're uploading

[true mason]

Got it, we'll use the page name as the image filename going forward. And we'll only upload if the file doesn't already exist on the wiki. Thanks for the heads up!

[agile spindle]

thanks for your work 🙂

[faint sandal]

Idk if this is the right channel but…
If that added mod support or the ability to make your own mods and share them, and if that gets added I will make a fleet of high quality submarines in the theme of subnautica and make them able to go down to the desert depth

[faint sandal]

And Dose any one have a 3d model of the tadpole

[true mason]

let me check

[faint sandal]

Tnx

[true mason]

.pskx or .gltf ?

[faint sandal]

Umm I have not worked with either but I can have both

[agile spindle]

@true mason please try to avoid uploading any content that isn't in the game yet. The devs want us to help prevent leaks

[true mason]

mmmh, which one ?

[agile spindle]

a few, actually 😅

basically if you can't find it in creative mode, it probably shouldn't be on the wiki yet

[true mason]

I'll try to find the errors, but the problem is that I can't always tell the difference between what's already been released and what hasn't. I was able to blacklist the next vehicle, but I have to admit I don't have much information about the items

[agile spindle]

could you send me a list and I can tell you which ones are okay to include?

[true mason]

here ?

[vernal cypress]

[agile spindle]

in DMs, not here

[true mason]

i'm actually deleting/renaming some of duplicated and useless upload

[faint sandal]

@true mason you can dm the files to me but I can.t work on them rn

[late island]

Just for what it's worth every item icon in the game (at least for currently implemented content) was already uploaded to the wiki on launch

[true mason]

Can you guarantee that? It would save me a fair few rate limits on the endpoint

[late island]

Yes

[true mason]

[red belfry]

you made Early Access to fast

[tight harness]

this is the wiki chat

[red belfry]

oh sorry

we need more opdate i hope its geting on this night

i complate subnautica 2 now

[tight harness]

awesome, that means you can help fill out the wiki!

[bleak hare]

W edit. ( I added the subnautica bit)

[twin shoal]

why were a ton of pages deleted

[agile spindle]

There was some miscommunication about what content to include on the wiki, so we are just clearing out some pages that shouldn't exist

[twin shoal]

ah alr

[clear hill]

Ok I think I figured out why the collector only does 5 damage to the tadpole.

Basically I figure he doesn't bother killing you in the tadpole because you're not worth the time [especially because he only does 50 damage if you try to break his grip and turn around. He's an octopus and turns you around so you don't go to the ruins hence why he's called the "collector".

He is a smart leviathan, way smarter than I thought about . I mean he roars first, not to eat the tadpole but to get rid of you.

He also stalks around the void like a guardian and finally he only does 50 damage if you turn [or its just a bug and I'm tripping.

[jade solstice]

if anyone can send me databank entries from SN2

[clear sundial]

can anyone help me with the wu blackbox things its bugged and wont let me click it its located in the old habitat

[agile spindle]

Please head to #subnautica-2-chat for gameplay questions

[livid cloak]

about the wiki, i don't see any more information about the deepwing egg plant ?

[agile spindle]

that means you could be the first to add some! 😄

[livid cloak]

all right, as far as i know it probablyt comes from the big creztures that circle around the map, they circle as the same as a clock, i'm going counter clockwise around the map to find them and imma follow them until they lay an egg

do we know their prefferred depth ?

[agile spindle]

ive seen them fairly close to the surface, maybe 50-100m?

[livid cloak]

alr i'll get you guys in touch of any findings

FOUND IT !

All right, as far s i've seen, one of the big one may lay a ton of green particles (1st pic), if you look closely few of them are bigger and fall with less mouvement and are greener ? Idk

and if you are close enought you can grab it

I lost them, as soon as i find them again imma record the process and you will be able to edit the wiki

i'l post it on yt(private)

[leaden plinth]

Does anyone have a PNG of the Axum icon from the PDA?

I haven't found one on the wiki files

[agile spindle]

is it the one on this page? https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum

[leaden plinth]

Oh yeah that's the one

Its named Alien_Face I was searchin by Axum oops

[agile spindle]

lmao

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Deepwing_Egg_Clump

is that not what this refers to

[livid cloak]

yes that's i'm looking for

[zenith drum]

hi guys my first two wiki pages pretty much ever can you rate pls 🙏
#📁wiki-changes message

[remote leaf]

Why is it using an infobox for seabases

[summer kindle]

idk

I didn't make it

[livid cloak]

they seem to lay egg randomly i'm gathering information cause i wanted to craft PAVLOVA but it required the eggs

and there was no information to be seen

[remote leaf]

It's fine but, should use templates

And not raw code for spoilers and databank

[zenith drum]

yea i couldnt find any templates through the names from old wiki

[remote leaf]

Also first instance of a page name should be bold

[zenith drum]

hm, fair thank you I will keep that in mind for future

[livid cloak]

on the left they lay big one wich are deepwing Egg Clump @agile spindle

[tight harness]

hot take the wiki shouldn't warn about spoilers cause thats just how wikis work

[livid cloak]

smone can add it to the wiki

[remote leaf]

I think it should only ever be done on common pages a new player might check

But yeah. It is also a wiki

Expect spoilers

[agile spindle]

can you pick it up? since it's an item used to craft it should be interactible

[livid cloak]

yes ofc !

just go close to it and pick it up, idk if it stays on the ground tho, didn't tested that

[summer kindle]

Yeah I’ve been leaning more towards that myself too

maybe in a few cases it’s warranted

but the SN1 wiki spoiler situation is painful

[primal geode]

what is the plan for these texts?
will there be a collection of them?
included under axum?
smth else entirely?

[remote leaf]

I was planning on makin an Architect page on SN 2 Wiki

[sleek thistle]

btw is this missing stuff? it seems to be the most popular thing people are looking for rn https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Vehicles

[primal geode]

not really? I mean the wakemaker could be considered a vehicle? idk how the sn1 wiki did it with the seaglide

[agile spindle]

that is Axum text

[remote leaf]

Im aware

But it is still related

[agile spindle]

looks pretty up to date other than the description

[remote leaf]

The PDA can only translate it because it knows Architect language. So we still need a page for the Architects since they were here

[summer kindle]

yeah I was going to make an architect page pre-release but decided against it since I didn't know if there would actually be a reason to

[remote leaf]

Especially with the Architect Pillar thing

Yeah. I wasn't expecting them to really be addressed

But we straight up have a structure from them

[sleek thistle]

btw if anyone wants help deciding what to prioritize, this is the list of the most common google search terms so far (in order)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11qabRD7GBP2sm4l8Ojx1ENagQCWJEFPHV3EvuM8cnug/edit?usp=sharing

[zenith drum]

4546b is crazy..

[sleek thistle]

lmao

some of those "questions" seem to be autocompletey somehow

[remote leaf]

I will definitely help a bit but I am mostly going into SN 2 blind.
My main focus over the weekend is finishing rewriting the behavior of SN fauna then either move to biome pages or BZ Fauna

[sleek thistle]

definitely the highest leverage stuff rn is covering whatever the readers need for subnautica 2

[agile spindle]

our most popular search 😭 i have no idea where to route them to

[sleek thistle]

like the way i see it, the bz stuff will be there in a month or two

[summer kindle]

a map is gonna take some time

[sleek thistle]

is there any underlying image or something we could use to turn into a map?

like if there's something, we have tech for it

[agile spindle]

there isn't that i have seen

[sleek thistle]

we could make something like this https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Orb_Vallis/Map

if someone can procure a picture for it (and understands the coordinate system), we could make a gadget for it very fast

it seems pretty important

[primal geode]

is there any chance this'd work?

why is it a spoiler I didn't do that??

[agile spindle]

is that AI? just curious

[primal geode]

no idea actually, stole it from #memes-and-media

[sleek thistle]

if we end up using an image it's gonna be important to know where it came from

like, i don't want it to be some random third party person that slaved away at it and we're just using their work

[agile spindle]

i found this https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/1tdocnh/unofficial_sn2_map_based_on_map_genie/?tl=de

anyone speak german?

[primal geode]

https://mapgenie.io/subnautica-2/maps/world

[sleek thistle]

just remove tl=de at the end

[agile spindle]

why did google image search give it to me in german

[sleek thistle]

excellent question

i've seen that happen a lot recently

[primal geode]

that's actually more or less common
it does the same for my mom quite a lot

[summer kindle]

just a kinda vibe you have

[agile spindle]

not sure we can use it if mapgenie made it

[zenith drum]

leadzone is lwk a crazy name but fits right considering there is SO MANY large lead deposits under that wreck

[summer kindle]

leadzone is the actual internal name

[sleek thistle]

holy are people abbreviating lowkey as lwk now

i need to get with the times

[remote leaf]

It's gonna be so much fun in the future having to replace every gallary image to not have HUD

[agile spindle]

lowkirk

[zenith drum]

makes sense

[sleek thistle]

lewk

[zenith drum]

i "remove" the cursor in my images and cut them out to not contain the hud, dont worry good sir

[remote leaf]

Well. They still will have to be replaced to be full sized at some point

[zenith drum]

welp yea but there's no uh non-hud mode right now

or a freecam

[primal geode]

wait I thought that was exactly the point/problem

[sleek thistle]

tbh any amount of time we spend on getting the best-possible-version of something right now is probably a waste

[zenith drum]

truth nuke

[remote leaf]

It is a future thing to worry about

[sleek thistle]

we're like 2 days into the game existing, anything that is imperfect will still be like 90% useful for readers now

[remote leaf]

For now. Just get it made

We can pretty it up later

[zenith drum]

fair enough, btw uh question, what's the process for becoming a "wiki keeper" for subnautica?

[sleek thistle]

it's kinda just vibes-based, there's another channel that is (currently) mostly about making sure the editors are moving from fandom to the new wiki

unless you're actively involved with that side of things i prob wouldn't worry about it too much. i'm sure we'll sort out the larger questions of on-wiki rights in the next couple weeks

as we figure out who needs what tools for deleting, blocking, etc

has there been much in the way of vandalism or bad faith stuff? i haven't seen much of anything when i looked

[zenith drum]

nah not really as far as I noticed, some pages are really vague due to simple lack of information but that can be edited obviously, I was just asking for the sake of it I guess..

[sleek thistle]

also approx. half of the "wiki keepers" people right now are just weird gloop's staff or long-term volunteers, we're mostly just here to make sure the launch goes well and are probably not going to be super actively doing the day to day stuff longterm

[primal geode]

like the worst thing I've really seen is one edit on the fandom mesmer page where the editor seems like they just were confused about how stuff works

[primal geode]

so no, there hasn't from what I've seen either

[zenith drum]

oh my god the wave ~ thing on the wiki looks like a minus due to the weird font 😭

[agile spindle]

When there are a lot of searches for something that doesn't exist in game, what should we do?

Lots of people looking for how to enable console commands

[primal geode]

imo, there should be a page just saying that doesn't exist
I imagine not having a page won't stop the searching, people will be disappointed in the wiki itself, and keep looking for no reason

I see wikis as giving out information, the lack of something IS still an important piece of info

[zenith drum]

make a page for it, and make a tutorial on how to make it yourself and add it into the game files, very good idea trust

[remote leaf]

Yeah. Better to make a page clarifying it doesnt exists

[agile spindle]

Should we link to mapgenie's map on the theoretical Maps page?

[finite rock]

No, we should figure out where they got the image and make our own maps

We have way more capabilities on the wiki than we would by just linking out

There are other sites that have maps too

Idk where they got the images for the map though, if thats just a file in the game or not

[primal geode]

whatever map genie did, IGN did too https://www.ign.com/maps/subnautica-2/world?filter=15673,15670,15666,15667,15671,15672,15676,15668,15674,15675,15665,15669,15664

[remote leaf]

Probably insider information

Presumably the KRAFTON side

[primal geode]

ah
IGN owns mapgenie

[zenith drum]

absolute cinema

this has to be insider info I am not believing an IGN employee(s) search the whole map for every ore spawn the small and the big ones

[finite rock]

I mean it can also just be in the game files

[remote leaf]

Yeah. They probably do have tools for it

[finite rock]

This sort of thing is easy to do with just the game cache for runescape for example

[remote leaf]

If it was insider info (at least from UWE side) we would have a map as well

[agile spindle]

I skimmed the files earlier but I can take a second, more focused look in a few hours

[vernal cypress]

its all inside Subnautica2/Content/Data/WorldPopulation2/SeededData btw

[dreamy holly]

imma be fr i didnt even know that ign owned map genie

that explains alot

[magic salmon]

algum brasileiro ai pra jogar

[finite rock]

Is that just a list of all spawn locations for resources?

[primal geyser]

Anyone have an directions or way to find the ||deepwing brooder, looking for more eggs|| I found it early on and have not be able find again in 10-12 more hours. Any help would be appreciated!

[vernal cypress]

and fish

[finite rock]

Can you send an example of a spawn? Just something basic and ideally unique

Im just curious what the data format is

I assume it has some sort of coordinate system

[vernal cypress]

{
          "Transform": {
            "Rotation": {
              "X": 0.6302407,
              "Y": -0.1217875,
              "Z": -0.14548256,
              "W": 0.7528607,
              "IsNormalized": true,
              "Size": 1.0,
              "SizeSquared": 1.0
            },
            "Translation": {
              "X": -137177.9,
              "Y": 427022.1,
              "Z": -43736.94
            },
            "Scale3D": {
              "X": 1.0,
              "Y": 1.0,
              "Z": 1.0
            }
          },
          "ResourceClass": {
            "AssetPathName": "/Game/Blueprints/World/ResourceDeposits/BP_ResourceDeposit_Celestine.BP_ResourceDeposit_Celestine_C",
            "SubPathString": ""
          },
          "ResourceGUID": "5E9D3482-6DCB3EB0-B8455D4A-876BB109",
          "RuleGUID": "B9879A79-4A314EF2-94ECF490-20AAEB78",
          "ZoneGUID": "CE07251E-413CE132-915E1098-07AFEF51",
          "HandPlaced": false,
          "TimeToRespawnSeconds": -1.0,
          "SpawnRangeMultiplier": 0.5,
          "CollisionHandlingMethod": "ESpawnActorCollisionHandlingMethod::AlwaysSpawn",
          "ResourceInterfaceSpawnSettings": {
            "EnablePhysics": false,
            "ForceObjectToSleep": true
          }
        }

[finite rock]

Translation being the loc coords then?

[vernal cypress]

correct

[finite rock]

Interesting. I think we can work with that

[vernal cypress]

thats also pretty useful

[finite rock]

Yeah. We can always try to make a rough map ourselves based on these locs if we really have to

[tight harness]

The game is UE5 right? Theres gotta be a map renderer out there

[vernal cypress]

5.6

[calm sigil]

I'm planning on putting the full databank entries for each creature in the wiki, is that all good?

(At least the ones I have scanned)

[agile spindle]

thats great!

[finite rock]

We actually have a page on the runescape wikis called "Nonexistence" that does this. I don't think it's perfect but it sort of works

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Nonexistence

[summer kindle]

why is the wiki censoring stuff

[vague marten]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:AbuseFilter

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Periscopic_Clowncrab?diff=prev&oldid=2638

this guy wasn't able to correctly add the entry for this because it mentions sperm lol

[agile spindle]

oh yea i got spam filtered by a youtube link that was already on a page and i had to remove it to publish it

[tight harness]

youtube does that if its the short url

[summer kindle]

yeah I also tried to add a yt vid earlier but can't

[leaden plinth]

''Hammerheads will view bright light sources such as flares as a threat, and can be distracted by such if necessary.''
Can we get a fact check on this? PDA doesn't say anything about this, nor do they seem to actually do this

From the Hammerhead page > Approach

[vague marten]

could add \byoutu\.be\b to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist

[summer kindle]

that page is very very old, most stuff there has been there for like a year lol

Idk who made that one

but yeah the Hammerhead page needs to be heavily rewritten

Ah it was Dee

[manic field]

For example, the Sea Treaders in SN don't harm the player anymore.

The page probably still lists that they do.

[vague marten]

you may just want to keep an eye on https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchFilter=2 - you could adjust the regex of the filter to remove some of those words, but it may just be better for an admin to make the edit containing those words and leave the filter so it can catch any other usages outside those specific cases (it looks like the edits on bfj were legitimate vandalism catches?)

or swap the filter to just warn rather than disallow, until all the databanks have been copied

[wind saffron]

Does axum bacterial culture respawn?

[summer kindle]

Doesn’t

[cobalt pilot]

Hi so I played nearly 30 hours since release and I just have to say this game is the best ea release you ever did dear unknown worlds team, i can really see the passion you built this game with keep up the good work , also the wiki is really cool already ❤️

[zenith drum]

why do chuds even raid the wiki when wiki mods can revert a change in a matter of seconds

[vague marten]

don't even need to be a mod to undo it lol

[trim kite]

Is the home page blank for the purposes of preventing abuse or? right now there’s no intuitive way for a new user to navigate from the home page to a topic other than life forms.

[sleek thistle]

No, I think it would be great if someone expanded it

What do we think the top 8ish pages are?

[primal geode]

I mean there's also equipment, technically, but that's semantics
I'm linking vehicles too to begin with since that link is missing, it's literally like 15 seconds of work, and idk where to starts

I am not doing anything actually because I forgot it's the main page and I can't edit those

[agile spindle]

Lifeforms, Biomes, Seabases are definitely on there

Collector Leviathan seems very popular but not sure if it should be on the main page

[primal geode]

is there a name for the bacterial sludge pits / the axum metal farm area?

[drifting cave]

Root Canyon

if you're referring to the more specific metal farm area, it's Karakorum Metal Farms

[primal geode]

oh yeah thank you

I was just adding the collector location to the lifeforms page

[drifting cave]

are we planning to add global recipe templates like the sn1/snbz wiki ?

[vague marten]

there is this one that @late island made https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Template:GetRecipe but i'm thinking it'd probably be better to start new and do something cleaner rather than a giant switch statement with all the recipes in it like that

the new wikis have access to bucket (https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Extension:Bucket) so data can be stored and retrieved directly from a database in lua modules

i was putting together a bit of a test module for recipe data storage earlier (on sn1 but could be copied over) https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Module:Sandbox/User:Californ1a, and with something like that, then it'd just be a simple query to retrieve all recipes that use a particular item in them, for exmaple, rather than needing to manually list both the recipe for an item and all the recipes that contain it

having the recipe templates themselves directly on the pages rather than tucked away inside that big switch statement also makes it easier for other editors to adjust them

[primal geode]

on the topic of recipes, the x shouldn't be included, should it?

[vague marten]

probably not? i'd think the param given to the template should just be the number, and the template should add the x if it's wanted, rather than putting x on all the individual count params

[primal geode]

I haven't been using the x, and this is the only instance of it I've even encountered

I'll remove it from here
it's once instance where it is included, so it's quick to add back with all the others

[vague marten]

looks like there might be a couple more instances of it https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/?search=insource%3A%2Fcount1\s*%3D\s*x%2F&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1

[primal geode]

may or may not have been me on the haul chassis, specifically

[primal geode]

this was actually probably someone copying the recipe from my edit 😭

[primal geode]

but what about the blueprints page? do I just go removing all of them?
because, granted, that is quite a few instances of it

[vague marten]

i can take care of that one if it's a too many to really do easily manually

[primal geode]

nah I got it, but thanks for the offer

[vague marten]

oh i already did

[primal geode]

oh

[vague marten]

regex is fun

[primal geode]

it missed some here and there but I'll go through those

nvm actually?

[vague marten]

looks like something else is adding the x

[primal geode]

yeah

figured it out

things that are missing the count1=1 get the x automatically

[vague marten]

that seems like a mistake in the template

[primal geode]

could be

but I have no idea how to mess with those

seems like a mistake on a select few

such as the fins and stuff like that

things that don't even really seem like they would need a count

[vague marten]

fixed the template, and made it put x in front of them all automatically

[supple wedge]

its fine

[primal geode]

oh I just went through all of the ones without the count lol

but it was just like 10 scattered throughout

as I thought, it was just select instances where the recipe called for a single one of some item, so the count wasn't added

[tardy sequoia]

this may have been my fault, I think I was one of the first people to put recipe templates on a lot of the pages as well as inside infoboxes and I specifically removed the x‘s in a lot of places

adding the x to all of the recipes makes them inconsistent with what is listed in most infoboxes now though 😔

[primal geode]

personally I aesthetically prefer it without, but I admit WITH the x it is visually clearer
I just asked because WITH x was a rarer inconsistancy

[vague marten]

well now that it's the template adding it, it's easily removed from everywhere all at once if it's preferred one way or the other, without having to go around manually fixing it on every page

[tardy sequoia]

that’s true, but the infoboxes aren’t that easily done since it’s just text inside of them, so those would all have to be manually revised, no?

[vague marten]

do you have an example page where it's inconsistent with the infobox?

[primal geode]

well, most (if not all) of them 😭

the tadpole is one that has the x in the infobox recipe

ugh

[tardy sequoia]

a lot of them are, I edited a bunch of recipes yesterday on a lot of pages without using the x‘s for count, so most infoboxes don’t have them anymore

[primal geode]

the haul chassis does too, but the scout ray doesn't have redirects to begin with, so that infobox is already messed up

btw is the "fragments" meant to have locations of fragments, or number of frags required to get the blueprint

[tardy sequoia]

I was planning on going through the rest of those today, but now I don’t know which way is preferred for count lmao

to my knowledge the x is omitted on most pages because I didn’t use them

[vague marten]

no idea tbh, i'm not playing the game, so in terms of actual content accuracy i'll have no idea - mostly just helping out with wiki tech stuff

[primal geode]

and likewise, most things haul chassis are my fault

[tawny zealot]

I don't play subnautica 2 and all my information is from watching youtubers. Is there anything on S2 that is a generic patten that needs fixing that doesnt require knowledge or anything in perticular on S1. Or i can just go pressing random page on there a bunch.

[primal geode]

tadpole and scout ray too, but like, for whatever reason I've done a fair majority of stuff on the haul

[tardy sequoia]

I mostly did recipes for a lot of pages yesterday as well as some base pieces

[supple wedge]

so what do we call this?

Sinkhole?
Hellhole?

Deepstarthole?

[snow fulcrum]

Haw do i equip more passive biomods ?

[tardy sequoia]

pretty sure you cannot currently

that’s one of the points on the early access roadmap that they want to add more slots for them

[snow fulcrum]

Okay thanks

[vague marten]

tbh, why are the recipes being put in the infobox at all? just because it's an available param in the template? seems like that might get really messy - the only real usage i can see differentiating it from the in-content recipe is that it lists the item names in text rather than just images which could be helpful to some

[tardy sequoia]

that is just a case of me copying what was already there when I started

[tawny zealot]

There are only 4 adaptations as of now right?

[tardy sequoia]

I can understand both ways, but a lot of the pages had them, so I carried that over to all the pages I did

though the base elements don’t seem to have them at all or only on some pages, witch is even worse

[vague marten]

that's totally fine to carry on with the convention if it was already a thing - just thinking more broad strokes, whether it needs to be in the infobox at all or not

[tardy sequoia]

I‘d of course be fine with going through all my pages again to remove them if there’s a consensus that they shouldn’t be there

[vague marten]

you wouldn't have to do that, that can be automated

[tardy sequoia]

oh, could one not just remove the recipe field from the template?

[vague marten]

yeah, just to make it not appear, but cleaning up all the pages still giving the param could be done with a bot

if it was removed

[tardy sequoia]

right
so, do I continue doing them in case they‘re kept if it’s not difficult to remove all of them again, or should I stop adding them to infoboxes?

[azure gale]

yo
where do u find necrolei cysts near the alien ruins

[vague marten]

for now keep doing them since it seems to be the convention

[primal geode]

also related to the infobox recipes
which way

[tardy sequoia]

thank you :>

[primal geode]

1x titanium, 2x copper, etc.

or

1x titanium 2x copper etc.

[tardy sequoia]

though, that raises the question of consistency again

[primal geode]

like with or without the ,

[tardy sequoia]

do we add x‘s or not?

[primal geode]

I imagine we do

[tardy sequoia]

most pages don’t use x or ,

[primal geode]

wait yeah

[tardy sequoia]

though again, that is mostly my fault

because I did those

[primal geode]

Imo this is just clearest

[supple wedge]

the shiver leviathan changes its direction every 10 seconds followed up by a roar or a growl When it's not disturbed by a player in survival

[primal geode]

and you can find examples about everywhichway

[vague marten]

yea that's probably the way to go if they're going to be in the infobox

[tawny zealot]

Is the ultra high capacity tank being left in what you can craft with the high capacity

[supple wedge]

Sonar Biomod Pings any resource in UNDER 30m

sometimes 29 works

sometimes it doesnt

its weird

Also you can't scan the female Shiver Leviathan

I feel like we should make two separate pages for the males and females

also something important to note is that tailing tables are made out of scrap metal

All of their furniture seems to have elements of alterra tech actually

Shivers are related to... the foureye

the S Shelf randomly generates items

ok not random but it has 1 of 3? presets

no wait

3

Do we have a page for building assets

[summer kindle]

Wdym

[supple wedge]

Do we have a page for items that the builder can create

[tawny zealot]

If we are removing the x on the visual crafting graphics how do we do that. Cant find it on the edit recipie page?

[vague marten]

it's added automatically now, you just put the number in for count, unless you mean somewhere else?

[primal geode]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Habitat_Builder other than the habitat builder page, afaik not?

[tawny zealot]

I thought someone said that it was being removed and we were only using number without x?

[tardy sequoia]

well then, I guess it’s time for me to go through the ~70-80 pages I put other formats on yesterday and fix all of them

[vague marten]

it was being moved, so it gets automatically added instead you needing to manually put x in front of them all

[tawny zealot]

alright. sounds good. Also some items have the visual crafting thing but not in the info box. should i just go fix this since im just random paging through fixing conventions right now?

[vague marten]

not sure what you mean - do you have an example?

[tawny zealot]

in visual craft box but not in infio box

[vague marten]

ah, yeah, if they're going to be listed in the infoboxes then it should be in all of them

[tawny zealot]

Well ill go through on both Wikis and fix conventions and the such

[vague marten]

i don't think sn1 lists recipes in the infoboxes at all, so it's just sn2 you'd have to look at

[tawny zealot]

ok. Thats definitely not going to trigger me forever more...

[vague marten]

yea, there's not even a param for recipe in the craftable infobox on sn1 https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Module:Craftable

[supple wedge]

I think we should like remove this bit

the mother or mate bit because the entry kind of confirms that it's a mate

[primal geode]

this is the shiver, right (if not, ignore)
I also think there is some other, better wording for that
it's not really "riding the females" so much as cruising beside them or something

at least what it looked like to me

[supple wedge]

no it kind of confirms that the males riding are fertilizing its brood

[primal geode]

do you have the full databank entry on hand?

the wiki seems to have somewhat messed that up

unless you are adding that rn or smth

[supple wedge]

Yeah I do

because I had to go into the void and scan the damn thing turns out it doesn't give a crap about the player if it's in creative

it kept swimming away

its faster than a Scout Chassis

[primal geode]

it also does that in survival if you leave the void

or

[supple wedge]

Do you know how unbearable that is it also has an unpredictable movement cycle

[primal geode]

it's really weird

[supple wedge]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the point

[primal geode]

not like the void entirely, just the EA area
or is that the definition of the void?

[supple wedge]

go nuts

If anyone needs a PDA entry just let me know I can go in and scan it

[primal geode]

what do we do with the (apologies for the text wall) bit that was in the databank entry section:

"Most of the biosphere is void. A wet desert five thousand meters deep. Life at the surface has its time in the sun and then it dies. The dead snow down to the bottom to feed strange life.

"But in that void is also form. Empty space actual, soaring black and silent. Silent in an ocean full of voices. The unsound after the bitten end of a scream.

"They are complete. A compact with teeth: one shiver, many sharks. Males ride their mother until they leave to ride the wife. The riders reap the small prey. Mother-wife takes the main. It needs a cold, cruel will to make hunger patient. But in the desert of the water they are always hungry and always patient.

"On Earth there was a place called Point Nemo, the furthest from all land. There was nothing in it. So they dropped dead satellites there.

"Perhaps, at Proteus' Nemo, the ocean learned to eat what it was given. Perhaps there is a hunger in them for prey from the stars."

—NoA Node GCI-ZZ-AHI1, "Sonar Dream"

I'm leaving it here to save it, but that is objectively not the databank entry, so I don't think it should go under the section, either

[vague marten]

(& if anyone gets censor filtered trying to paste in entries, let one of the wiki admins know and they can do it - there's been a couple words we've seen trigger it, but it's generally best to leave the filter on for most other cases)

[primal geode]

I'm pretty sure sex got flagged in the foureye page

[vague marten]

the filter is entirely manual, so we can just remove words if some of them are super common, but i think once all the databank entries are on their pages, then it'll probably be a nonissue

[primal geode]

(who are the wiki admins I thought you were one so I told you abt that 😭 )

[vague marten]

i am on sn2, not on sn1

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:ListUsers?group=sysop

[primal geode]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Foureye
yeah and the foureye is an sn2 creature? sorry I'm so lost rn
but specifically

Mated pairs may be cross-s (with the male fertilizing the female) or same-s (with both individuals cooperating to locate a mate or mates)
"concerns" me, it feels like it would be cross-sex, but idk

[vague marten]

there's also the staff group you can select on there, which are the wiki hosts, weirdgloop

[vague marten]

oh are you saying that's one that i should edit in now? i thought it was one that got fixed earlier when you originally hit the filter so i didn't even look

[primal geode]

yeah lol sorry for the confusion 😭
it wasn't my edit, but I just checked in game and, as I guessed, it is cross-sex and same-sex

[jade solstice]

added a language tab on their site and im planning on ine day adding the symbols plus translation

[vague marten]

alright, yeah, i fixed that one now

[jade solstice]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Axum

@remote leaf

[supple wedge]

The Feedback Resenator
Effective Range of 25m

[primal geode]

yes thank you

[jade solstice]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Observatory_Island

this actually has a name given by the game

Axum Observatory

the Museum thing is just from one of the Axum texts

[primal geode]

should the shiver leviathan species be corrected to "scythe-finned fate-ender"?
the infobox says "scythe-winged god of death" but I believe that was gemmas translation from before the game was released

actually it was already changed to god of death FROM fate-ender, although the scyther-winged stayed as that the entire time, instead of scythe-finned

I'm leaving it alone for now

same difference who does what and when
I'll even go back to do the change myself, if nothing else

[leaden plinth]

Are databank entries supposed to be italicised?

I've been italicising them for them raw material pages, but I just noticed they aren't on the leviathan pages

[primal geode]

I directly copy it character for character from in-game
(For example, I just did shiver a bit ago as you may see)
That means leaving the *, even though it is probably meant to imply italization

I'll wait to see if the devs ever do the proper syntax in the game text

For now, I personally write everything directly as I see in game

[jade solstice]

if you find any that mention alterra owning smth or stuff from past games let me know

i document here and on a vehicle doc site (IGCD) so i need smth who has the Seamoth Statue for that reason for both here and them so i can take a quick look

[summer kindle]

Yeah I’ll change it

I’ll use whatever translation the game provides

not all entries provide a translation though

If you notice any instances where the databank entry provides a translation for the scientific name that differs from my translation in the infobox feel free to correct it

[leaden plinth]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biosampler this page is superseded by Bioscanner and Biomods I think (its also not the correct word)

[summer kindle]

Oh yeah

Need to delete this one

The biosampler got cut before release

Done

[leaden plinth]

Oh it was seperate from the Bioscanner?

That's cool

[summer kindle]

redirected Biosampler to Bioscanner now

[jade solstice]

im working on asking staff to get confirmation on possibly Alterra products that dont have it directly stated to make sure

will do more editing later and working on plans to make stuff collapse on pages to avoid clutter

with that well be able to lust equipment and products seperte for alterra i stead of as one (as theres some diffrences) without it beeing messy

doing tests later today

[leaden plinth]

Does Axum Vision have a databank entry? I don't think I got one

[primal geode]

No page of its own yet, afaik

It's linked in adaptions, though

I read that wrong

Nevermind

Ignore

[leaden plinth]

Yeah I'm making the page hence why

[jade solstice]

also checking on a way to refine the TransGov pages later

as not all citizens are employees funnily

but ill do that later on

[leaden plinth]

How do you guys take screenshots for the Gallery? How do I hide the UI and take a picture itself

[summer kindle]

As of now I think there’s no way to

So we just have to deal with it

[jade solstice]

Current / soon starting Projects:
SN1:
Alterra
Degasi
Mongolian States
Torgal Corp
Architects
Crews / info of the, Degasi Aurora and Sunbeam for the ship pages

SN2:
Alterra
Axum
Mongolian States
Crews / info of the Cicada for the ship page

thankfull for any data entries i get, specialy on the colinists in SN2

[summer kindle]

When the initial rush is over I’m going to be looking into creating a comprehensive timeline page

[jade solstice]

as i def missed some i think

[jade solstice]

well 2 timelines lol soon 3 with BZ

[summer kindle]

Well I’ll start with SN2

[jade solstice]

btw i made one for another wiki some time ago i can get you the info from the game later

[summer kindle]

SN1 and BZ also don’t really need separate timelines there’s only 2 years between them

[jade solstice]

the games being merged is a mess

i was allready told they might get split in the future

as the original merge was forced by fandom

now rn you need to dodge BZ entries to find SN1 info in some stuff

[supple wedge]

Id debate that but you're the boss so

[summer kindle]

it’s not like that much happens

the timeline would be mostly identical

[jade solstice]

still, if we split we can focuse on the info that is actually stated in the game the wikis is about instead of stuffing everything into one pile

[summer kindle]

but yeah post split I guess we will get to that

[jade solstice]

having info in the timeline that isnt actuallt in the game tye wiki is about us both confusing and a spoiler for the other game

thats why i only add the past game info in SN2 that is also stated in SN2

[summer kindle]

on the other hand if you’re looking for the game’s timeline you probably aren’t bothered about spoilers

[jade solstice]

i was told wed do it like we link the wikis themselve

[supple wedge]

Right but I debate since it's a different story it's still deserves its own information

[jade solstice]

with you beeing able go switch between the diffrent wikis timeline pages for example

[supple wedge]

It's two different characters two different sections of the world two different stories

[summer kindle]

when I say a comprehensive timeline I’m talking a timeline that starts 1000+ years ago

[late island]

Mods are the only way

[jade solstice]

id say we focuse on adding in timeline points stated in the games they are for to avoid confusion

but we could host a full timeline semi externaly like an interactive map would be

in that one we could also include NS2 info to make it even more detailed

as NS2 even mentions actual NS2 TSF chracters and weapons now

[summer kindle]

Yes that was what I intended

A comprehensive timeline of the subnautica and natural selection universe

Starting over 1000 years ago with architect stuff

[jade solstice]

i was thinking you meant on the wiki rn and not for the entire universe

i was talking about game specific timelines

[summer kindle]

Actually I guess our first important event would be the birth of the sea emperor 2600 years ago

[leaden plinth]

Oops how do I delete an uploaded image

I think uploaded the same one twice

[summer kindle]

Link the duplicate to me

[jade solstice]

ill also take a look into it ill see what i can find

[leaden plinth]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/File:Angel_Comb_Observatory_Island_Caves.png
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/File:Observatory_Island_Caves_Bloom_Node.png
Both of them oops

[summer kindle]

I have a very basic draft I wrote of stuff I could think of off the top of my head hang on

[leaden plinth]

Fuuuck never mind I named the other one wrong as well

How do I upload images to a gallery? This is a little more finnicky than I thought it would be

[jade solstice]

oh btw the Obervatory Island region shouldnt be the info on the Observatory itself as that one is one of the games named and thus semi marked POIs the "Axum Observatory*

[summer kindle]

just the things that I thought of off the top of my head

[jade solstice]

21st century (so us rn) PDA used on earth (from the PDA History entry)

these ones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_digital_assistant

[summer kindle]

Did the thing about the Crinoids make it in actually

[jade solstice]

the canon precursor to the games beloved PDA

[summer kindle]

Haven’t checked

What actually is this

[leaden plinth]

There's a bunch of these (or atleast, I looked up crinoid on Google images and something that looks like these) around Observatory Island

Assuming they're plants

You can't scan them though, a lot of the environment features and plants in that region can't be yet

[summer kindle]

ok so this entry is probably still not in the game

[late island]

No trace of this entry in the game itself

[summer kindle]

Right

[jade solstice]

for the timeline from my old calcs
i use events as fix point rq

Degasi Crash: 10 years before Aurora Launch, about 11.5 before lost contact

Aurora lost contact about 18 months into the journey but we dont know when exactly as communications take mobths so they noticed later

Cicada Launch+ 14: planned arrival on the Colony

[finite rock]

Any idea how we are looking as far as materials/lifeforms/wrecks go? Do we have pages for everything and do those pages look like theyre coming together with info?

noticing [[fibrous Pulp]] and [[fibrous pulp]]. Neither have all the info but could probably be combined and redirected. Is the capital P one right?

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Fibrous_Pulp?action=edit&redlink=1
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Fibrous_pulp?action=edit&redlink=1

[jade solstice]

as for the current game

the databank states alot died around 250,000 hours ago on the planet

if its thousand its 28,539 years

if its meant as 250 hours the last death was about 10.4 days

we should ask the devs prob to be sure lol

[finite rock]

I think figuring out stuff like this is going to help us quite a lot on google, we are appearing under a lot of sites like gamesradar etc bc these are the things players care about

[jade solstice]

as its a rather large diffrence

[supple wedge]

Yeah about that the developers aren't helping

Like I don't know if it's because they're being ominous or what but they're not helping

The only help we really got in from all of this is donya

They said they want to see what we come up with

We've been abandoned they've proteus'ed us

[jade solstice]

SN2 gave us alot of alterra products with actual product name now

including the place they are sold in to colonists

the Alterra Blueprint Catalogue

which is how they license out their build tool content

its only in SN2 but does explain why we have to scan stuff as the entries state new blueprints can be aquired by scanning stuff

meaning Alterra allows buyers of their build tool to aquire blueprints without an extra charge wnd use them if they scan them after they bought the base package

[supple wedge]

Space maker is one

[jade solstice]

im workin on getting proof for alterra ownership on blueprints item rn just to be safe but 2 if the named ones are the Wall locker and the Basic Room
sold as the "Cachet" and the "Greybox"

[supple wedge]

Hey that's a development reference

Put that down in the trivia

[jade solstice]

the Turbine is smth like the "Nausicaa IV"

[supple wedge]

For people who don't know grey boxing is an early stage of development

[summer kindle]

oh wait we got a new extinction

[summer helm]

hello i would like to ask if there is a way to impove the battery life of my cyclops in subnautica 1 pls

[summer kindle]

The entry for the Whip Gorgon mentions that this is extinct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leptogorgia_virgulata

Also can someone double check where the Whip Gorgon is located in the databank in game because it was placed in Raions on the wiki

[summer kindle]

this is a chat for talking about the subnautica wiki itself, your question is for #subnautica-chat

[jade solstice]

known include:
the "Hotpot Bite" thermoelectric generator
the "Fallback" power storage
the "Vaporway" wireless power pylon
the "Liuhe Deluxe" dual-mode radioacoustic beacon
the "Nausicaa IV" Hydroelectric Turbine

the Volta V ( the Power Cell Terminal)

[supple wedge]

Dumb question would you guys describe the accent on the PDA as German?

I swear I start hearing some inflections here and there especially whenever they say oxygen

Something around that area of Europe

I'm just checking because I want to add it to the page

[jade solstice]

the power storage is listed as IEEE-180 compliant
another one as simply IEEE Compliant

which is our worlds Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (or IEEE)

so more trivia unlocked

the fact that the second depth module goes down to 800 is grand news for tge future

[supple wedge]

There's a second one?

[jade solstice]

you can upgrade the first

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Lifeforms#Bloom

Can someone fill out pages for the bloom organisms?

hmm

actually not certain how to handle Bloom stuff rn

these things all have separate entries and binomial names

currently they're grouped on one page

excluding the Angel Comb and Bloom Parasite

actually yeah I’m going to revert to my idea of Bloom having its own page which links to each of these as their own pages

[leaden plinth]

28.5 years I think, not 28,539 years

[maiden pine]

Egg?

[jade solstice]

technically its actually 28,5388128 years

[jade solstice]

roughly 28 years, 6 months 14 Days, 5 hours and 52 minutes

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom_Parasite

Ok anyone with experience with this want to put some info on the page

[summer kindle]

Max Zoinkoff mentioned

[supple wedge]

Who the hell

😭

ZOINKOFF

[summer kindle]

He’s mentioned in a Subnautica 1 entry as the creator of the Spacemoth

[jade solstice]

Zoinkoff was the owner of the company that created the code and got a board of directors position after they bought his company

[summer kindle]

I assume whoever Antara is designed the original Seamoth

[jade solstice]

id think Antara-Zoinkoff is the name of his company

alterra bought his company

[supple wedge]

well yeah

ofc

[oak dove]

As a german speaker myself I’d personally say I heard a bunch of french accents; is there any specific character that you mean in particular?

[supple wedge]

Oxygen

i guess

Id love to hear your breakdown though

[summer kindle]

I would assume Antara is a different person because Zoinkoff only modified the existing Seamoth, he didn’t create it.

[lusty loom]

Im not in the wiki but should it be noted in the sandspear section that the PDA suggested them as home defense in growbeds, if it’s not already said

It was just a really weird comment that stuck with me

[supple wedge]

Yeah that's that's not even a debate though
with the - that just means it's a different person

[supple wedge]

I think they meant like the eggs

[lusty loom]

Its one possibility, but I’m wondering if that’s something the other pioneers did, I wonder if they can be domesticated

[supple wedge]

At the start of the game you lose 1 health every 10 seconds as a part of the Atmospheric Pressure

im timing it

[lusty loom]

Would it be atmospheric or depth, I can’t tell since your technically inside something

[supple wedge]

Atmospheric Pressure

*Pressurized Oxygen

[echo panther]

when the wiki says using console commands will disable achivments, does this also apply for steam achivments?

[supple wedge]

considering those are the only achievments the game has

[echo panther]

because it also says this in the achivements page

[lusty loom]

Well yeah but wouldn’t it be pressurized because of the depth

[supple wedge]

Found new dialouge

The fabricator room has fake skies

[lusty loom]

Really it’s just confusing because we are Underwater but we are also in a confined space with the pressurized oxygen, but also the oxygen is pressure used because of our depth underwater

So it’s the atmosphere of the interior affected by the depths

[supple wedge]

No I'm pretty sure the atmosphere and the oxygen is just different

[lusty loom]

Wdym, It’s Oxygen Toxicity

[manic field]

Yeah, people theorised this before the games launch, and they were right.

[lusty loom]

A room with oxygen 600M underwater would be pretty toxic mainly due to the depth I would think, especially since the room was designed to accommodate humans

[supple wedge]

Right but how is adapting solving it

[lusty loom]

I assume changing how we absorb the oxygen or how our body deals with unstable stuff

Idr why oxygen Toxicity kills you, It’s either Unstable particles because of the pressure or Carbon dioxide build up

[tiny tartan]

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right thread to ask this question, but I'd like to know if it's still possible to get the Seamoth statue by watching the replay/VOD of the stream.

[tight harness]

I don't think any twitch drops work with vods. [[sn2:seamoth statue]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/seamoth_statue

[grim jungle]

They don't. But it won't remain exclusive to the Twitch drop. We'll definitely be bringing it back to claim/earn in some way in the future.

[tiny tartan]

Oh ok thanks you, because I'd really like to be able to put it in my base

[jade solstice]

i hope we get stuff like the old games placeable lab equipment and some of the old lab desks in the future

[tiny tartan]

yes i hope too

[digital idol]

I hope we get big vehicles like the cyclopes again

[zenith drum]

yo some thug copied my heat tolerance page for axum vision but didn't even put the correct information in 😔

[tight harness]

copied it to where?

[jade solstice]

anything you guys want me to check in game?

as usual for documentation im in creative to get all the scans and stuff without issues

for those who were confused with the Tailing term in game

its a mining term for leftover material hence the Tailing Chests

meaning the abandoned Village was a mining Village

East from the Angel Comb is also an unmarked mining spot for silver with Tailing Chets filled with Silver and Rock and Axum texts oin the nearby cliff talking about nets to keep out humans from it

[zenith drum]

to the axum vision page, pretty much changed the text up a little only (the whole structure is 1:1) but left some stuff that only is related to heat tolerance itself like the idea of using the sonic resonator instead of feedback resonator(the actual tool you need for axum's bloom cankers)

[tight harness]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:SearchDigest here is a super useful page btw, this shows everything that people search that doesn't take them to an existing page! We are working on a map, but if anyone wants to know what they can do to directly help a lot of people then make the pages on this list

for instance [[sn2:power]] is likely people wondering how power works and how to hook it up. I've seen a lot of questions about that in #subnautica-2-chat

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/power

[agile spindle]

literally making that page as we speak ;p

[faint sandal]

#memes-and-media message

[finite rock]

do you want to try and get info for some of the items that are missing infobox item? https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/User:Andmcadams#Items_missing_Infobox_Item
I think the description comes from ingame, and we are missing it for anything that doesnt have an infobox at least

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Lifeforms
anyone know what "SecondCategory" is supposed to be here? I'm tempted to just remove it

maybe @summer kindle since it looks like you added it

[agile spindle]

"Attitude" if we match the other wikis

[summer kindle]

no I just copied dee's table

it should be attitude yeah

I don't know why I never changed that

I'll change it now

[finite rock]

hm, does that work here since in this one flora and fauna are mixed?

[summer kindle]

yes

works fine

[agile spindle]

plants can still have an attitude

[summer kindle]

the "flora" are just mostly passive

[finite rock]

does flora have an attitude??

i see

[summer kindle]

we had an aggressive plant in SN1

[finite rock]

i guess there are the barnacle things in sn1

[agile spindle]

the great jaw for example

[zenith drum]

hello fellow wiki people, does anybody know how to make a page thumbnail without actually displaying it on the page [so it can only be found inside the source code] the thing i attached in the picture sadly didnt work 😔

[summer kindle]

oh wait

we called the tiger plant "hazardous"

[tight harness]

why do you want to have it hidden?

[zenith drum]

to keep the page organized so all pictures remain in the gallery

[summer kindle]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Tiger_Plant

[zenith drum]

i mean it shoots literal darts at you soo

[jade solstice]

but why

[tight harness]

it should pick the first picture from the gallery I think

[zenith drum]

doesnt do that sadly

[tight harness]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Heat_Tolerance?action=info yeah you're right

I would think it should have selected the data bank entry image

[zenith drum]

but it doesnt select any

which is why uh i have no real clue on what to do tbh

and I do not want to force a thumbnail on the top of the page just for the sake of it being visible

[tight harness]

Not everything needs a page image

[zenith drum]

fair enough

[jade solstice]

Next page ill do is the SN1 Architects info

[agile spindle]

we also need someone to make that page on the SN2 wiki, if you are so inclined 🙂

[summer kindle]

I put a lot of the information that woukd go on that page on the Kharaa page already

so that can be modified and copied over to an architect page

I put a lot of effort into that Kharaa page...

[chrome forge]

It only selects from images in the lead section

[supple wedge]

Ok maybe Lucifer rotsacs do not lure creatures

I was being chased by nibblers and I threw like seven of them and they did not like leave me alone

Which is really weird because it worked on the needler shark

[summer kindle]

do some further testing on it

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Bloom_Core

can someone grab an image for this

[supple wedge]

Realistically should I be installing a no heads up display mode if I'm going to keep doing the wiki stuff

[summer kindle]

I suppose but at the moment I am not too bothered about this

[supple wedge]

I already grabbed a bunch of console command mod

[summer kindle]

I just want pages to have content

[supple wedge]

Ok also would you kindly check your DMS

[summer kindle]

Sorry I’ve been getting a ton

[jade solstice]

one thing for the Scanner

the Bioscanner cant scan some things the normal scanner can

i noticed that when getting the symbol for scanning but only the basic version could scan it

also hope well get the foundations buildable soon lol

[summer kindle]

Oh are foundations not?

[lusty loom]

No they just appear

[jade solstice]

they are not builable they just appear at those various small unmarked outposts

and some bases

we can only use the roofs of buildings as a floor lol

[supple wedge]

I think it may be a bug

Idk why they wouldn't be ALLOWED to
Hell the bioscanner let me rescan things I've scanned

[jade solstice]

oh and at the Tadpole Pens theres an unreachable base / bunker build into one of the cliffs

[supple wedge]

I NOTICED THAT

I looked all around

I'm going to see if I can freecam in there

[jade solstice]

there no signs of collapse for that one

theres some more Furniture and stuff we dont have yet

[jade solstice]

but theres hope as when trying to build the area around the Pens is blocked and listed as under construction

[supple wedge]

Odd

I unironically tried to put a hatch on the buried area

[jade solstice]

meaning theyll add stuff to the area

[hollow halo]

It this a good wiki ? https://subnautica2-wiki.com/en
I found it on reddit

[jade solstice]

well its not us so whatever

[tight harness]

seems like just some autogenerated ai slop site

[jade solstice]

and its false info

it lists the Foundation as buildable lol

and their Axum Pot image is the Bioscanner

[lusty loom]

And nothing in the Flora is Flora, Some of it is just rocks

[hollow halo]

oh okay thanks !!

[grim jungle]

If you're looking for the official Subnautica 2 wiki, you can find it here! https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/

Might be more helpful if you're looking for accurate information to help you with the game 😊

[supple wedge]

Easter Egg Confirmation

[agile spindle]

thats two easter eggs if anyone wants to make a page ;o

[supple wedge]

2?

try 5

[dark current]

Guys i want everyone’s opinion on proximity chat instead of normal game chat?

[summer kindle]

I saw this Easter egg https://x.com/xGarbett/status/2055668673348542864/video/1?s=46

[lusty loom]

They’re looking into it

[dark current]

Thats what i thought when i seen voice chat

[magic axle]

Can some1 tell me how to cultivate sandspears?

[jade solstice]

stuff we cant build yet:
1 ofthe window forms (the horizonal single slit)
Foundations
those tech desks
the similar but normal desks
the modular wall shelves
the Security Cameras in some bases
the Glass Lockers
Lightsticks
Exterior Signs (the ones that are placed on the floor)
the Sofas
the Living Room Tables
the Porthole Windows
Floor Mats at Doors and Hatches in the same design as bases instead of the ones we got
those small wall panels that contain messages
the rounded corridor doors
rounded corrisor doors with Button to open (Tadpole Pens for example) (would if added prob we a corridor with door in 1 piece as a security door)
the terminal placed at the Moonpool in the Tappole Pens and in some base parts
the desks looking more like the old Lab desks from SN1
the ceiling pipes at the Tadpole Pens Moonpool
the large tool board at the Pens
Open small crates
the cargo crates possibly
the large cargo crates
the very small wall panels
the rounded desks

Decorations we can find in bases as clutter:
Cannisters, prob Fuel or Oil
Test Tube Rack
Test Tube Case
Microscopes
Coffee Mugs
Flat Plates
Deep Plates
smth that could be a salt shaker or smth similar

[magic axle]

Can some1 tell me how to cultivate sandspears?

[jade solstice]

wrong channel

[teal basin]

What do you mean by porthole window, a small round window?

[jade solstice]

the ones that are build like the ones on ships

[magic axle]

where do I ask for help?

[jade solstice]

in the subnautica 2 chat

[agile spindle]

gameplay questions go in #subnautica-2-chat 🙂

[jade solstice]

aight im hiring a bouncer now

[magic axle]

Nobody answers me there tho

[teal basin]

You can in fact you need to scroll your scroll wheel to downsize the window and it will give you an option to make one like that

[jade solstice]

well the other stuff on my list is missing anyways

[teal basin]

Yes I agree Im only saying if you want to make them, your list is good.

[supple wedge]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Easter_Eggs

let the hunt begin

[jade solstice]

oh and were missing a roof deco, those large barrels

[summer kindle]

Since many of the current ones probably won’t make it to release it would be nice to keep the removed ones on the page too

[supple wedge]

already covered

[summer kindle]

Separate section at the bottom

[supple wedge]

to the easter eggs we lost...

do we wanna do developer images?

[quick copper]

Hey folks, wiki is looking great so far. I contributed a bit here and there already, so figured I'd check in and say hi. 🙂

[supple wedge]

WIP/Goofing around images devs have shared

[summer kindle]

Thanks for helping out

[quick copper]

I've seen a few edits changing the infoboxes.
Do we have a standard template?
I remember this being a hot topic for SN1 back in the day

[summer kindle]

We have standardised infoboxes yes

[grim jungle]

Welcome! Thank you for contributing 🫶

[summer kindle]

There exist a couple different infobox templates

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Infobox_Lifeform

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Infobox_Item

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Module:Infobox_Base

[tight harness]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:PrefixIndex?prefix=Infobox&namespace=828

[supple wedge]

do we wanna credit the dev who hid the thing 😭

[jade solstice]

more Tadpole and Seamoth lore guys

[lusty loom]

I think most were Arties work

[supple wedge]

goated

[jade solstice]

the background calls it the Tadpole sea-space mobility pod

[supple wedge]

SURELY this can be moved

[supple wedge]

thats a chassis, seth confirmed it

it was designed for water

here we go

[jade solstice]

well that part is listed in game as the Background for the Tadpole itself

[lusty loom]

Angry ball

[jade solstice]

not for its chassis

meaning the Tadpole is infact space useable

[supple wedge]

i heard it needs a chassis

for it

[jade solstice]

oh and the PDA Gives another Moth
we had Seamoth and Spacemoth and it also mentions the Sunmoth

[jade solstice]

the sea-space mobility pod things is listed for the main vehicle, chassis are a later section of the entry

[lusty loom]

The Seamoth we use in SN1 is not space worthy but there is a Space worthy model, I assume the same for the tadpole

[jade solstice]

seamoth it self is actualy space useable according to the PDA for it the thing that was changed to "create" it was somem of its code

[lusty loom]

Yeah, the space worthy one is an upgrade

[supple wedge]

can someone Verify the thing I just uploaded

[jade solstice]

yeah a Code upgrade, smth that would be changeable for example in the Seamoth Bays of the Aurora

[velvet crater]

any help channel in this disc? trying to figure out why my 1-9 keybinds just stopped working

[jade solstice]

wrong channel

[velvet crater]

yeah thats why i asked any help channel in this disc ?

[agile spindle]

do you have coordinates or an approximate location?

[vernal cypress]

we kinda have a lot of info about it tho

[supple wedge]

Yeah its near the Bioscanner Wreck

[tight harness]

#subnautica-2-chat

[remote leaf]

My favorite thing is the PDA implies the seamoth is the space version saying it uses thrusters for both sea and space

[supple wedge]

3 Year Old Info

[remote leaf]

But the model has a propeller

[supple wedge]

the seamoth?

propeller?

[jade solstice]

gimme a sec

[supple wedge]

artie confirmed this is 3 years old

and extremely outdated

[lusty loom]

Low power thrusters too or something

[vernal cypress]

yeah looks like it

[supple wedge]

the og krafton leak kinda hit some story spoilers ngl

[lusty loom]

Why it cant just have a built in toggle switch, I have no idea

[remote leaf]

Subnautica Databanks are fun

They tend to just, state things

[supple wedge]

terran im gonna find that slug

gimme a sec

[agile spindle]

good old squidshark databank

[remote leaf]

smaller scale

The editing war on the wiki it caused

[jade solstice]

well the seamoth and PRAWN were both set up as useable in the Auroras Bays unlike the Cyclops in parts and the Aurora had designated Bays for it
so they prob were able to use it in space but our PDA switched to the Sea Code instead of the Space Code for its operation when we scanne dit

[remote leaf]

The actual answer is the fact this was added to the databank long after the seamoth was in game

[jade solstice]

that does seem plauseable considering a few of the PDAs talk about how the thing that was needed to make it space useable was new code

[remote leaf]

Just like the echolocation line was asded to the Reaper awhile after it was in game. No function for this is in game

[lusty loom]

Me when I probably just need to change some numbers to make it work in space

[supple wedge]

located here

[remote leaf]

His wife took the Switch in the divorce

[supple wedge]

do we want fog?

for the image?

here we go, w fog

[jade solstice]

well there is some diffrences for how the vehicle would react in water or in space so the code was likly so that its systems could work properly

[lusty loom]

Subsystems exist

[jade solstice]

well we dont know rn sadly but we know that its code

[remote leaf]

Again. The space line was just added afterwards

[jade solstice]

the 3 vehicles are als listed like this in the PDA for the Tadpole

Seamoth/Spacemoth/Sunmoth series

[jade solstice]

but i was added

[remote leaf]

It was. Just dont think too hard on it

[lusty loom]

Me when Alterra has stasis tech but they don’t know how to make a pressured and non pressured environment switch

[jade solstice]

yeah we dont have to much info...honestly knowing the tech its prob just a module that gets inserted to switch the use lol

[lusty loom]

I assume as much

[jade solstice]

would be easier and cheaper than to rebuild the vehicle for new code
alterra lkes to save money

well some stuff is just weird in the games sometimes

like the engine module for the cyclops is actually universal conisdering the one we can grab was used for the Auroras Drives before we took it

i kinda wish they had added those Module storages found in some wrecks as buildables, as a nice way to store modules you find

@agile spindle the Research Post location itself is atually called Protected Zone Base Camp

Research Post is just the name on its sign

[agile spindle]

it says Research Outpost on the sign directly in front of the building

[jade solstice]

yes but the POI / Location name is Protected Zone Base Camp

[remote leaf]

I say sign takes priority

Text on model itself priorities over other sources in my mind

[jade solstice]

i think location name in game would be what people search for though

[remote leaf]

Protected Zone Base Camp can be a redirect

[summer kindle]

Yeah I would also say the sign takes priority

Redirect is fine

[remote leaf]

Protect Zone Base Camp can be listed as an alias on the page as well to help with search results on Google

The "Research Outpost, also known as the Protected Zone Base Camp....."

[jade solstice]

hm we could add a text on the page taht states that the other name is the POI name

for the Hot Cave Base Camp the sign name is Hot Cave Basecamp instead

[remote leaf]

It's generally how I handle names on the SL Wiki for things with multiple names (especially when the official name isnt as clear)

[jade solstice]

and theres 3 Bunkers i found

named
Colonist Bunker (Anita's Garden)
Colonist Bunker (Quaker's Meetinghouse)
Colonist Bunker (Unauthorited NoA Modification)

thats vthe POI names in the PDA

[remote leaf]

I prioritize names as such

Name in the inventory if applicable
Text on the model itself
Source in the game itself
Other official sources (i.e. changelogs)

[jade solstice]

item name for items is allways number 1

when i make faction pages i link the item and rename the link to the full name of the object

[tardy sequoia]

Could the nutrition parameter perhaps be moved either below the recipe or above the source?
I think it'd look better if the Crafting as source and the Recipe were next to each other

[supple wedge]

Ok whats our Embargo on Cheated and or cut content

Like

Console Command stuff

cuz I got some thingys

[agile spindle]

sure 👍

[tardy sequoia]

thank you :>

[summer kindle]

in general we are not doing stuff that doesn't show up in game yet

and is only accessible through modding

[supple wedge]

Lame

There goes my sea emperor poster reveal

I'm not kidding

[tight harness]

Recipe in infobox seems weird

[remote leaf]

Plus shouldn't that be in the Harvestmoon page

We never gave cooked fauna their own pages before

[supple wedge]

No we shouldn't imo

Just add a second infobox

Or make a cooked items page

[agile spindle]

i never really liked having the recipe in the infobox

since we put it on the page 100% of the time anyway and in a better format

[tardy sequoia]

They're present on the majority of pages as of right now and I've been previously told to just keep doing them since they can be easily removed if a decision is made that they shouldn't be in the infobox, but not adding them to new infoboxes causes a lot of consistency issues in case it's decied to keep them #📚wiki-discussion message

[agile spindle]

We have a good starter map on the biomes page now https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biomes

[jade solstice]

will the named and marked wrecks get pages or will they only be listed on the wreck page

[agile spindle]

keep em on one page for now

[summer kindle]

why did Jelly Plateaus just become Plateaus

can we have the jelly back

[true mason]

"Plateaus" and "Necrolei Hills" are actually two separate biomes in the game files. The JellyPlateaus actor in the game data maps to Necrolei Hills, not Plateaus. "Plateaus" is its own distinct biome entry. So they're not the same thing, just easy to confuse. Source: game file analysis (EA build).

[fallow olive]

Please when is it coming to ps5 don’t make us wait for 3 three years

[supple wedge]

Not the place to discuss this man

[jade solstice]

ps doesnt allow early access

[jade solstice]

were out we ate it all

[supple wedge]

Hey is someone writing more detailed stuff for the Easter eggs?

Probably a good call over what I was doing lmao

I'll start doing more tomorrow

Also the waterslug with the bottle is confirmed an Easter egg

Or I'm taking it as confirmation by artie

[true mason]

wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Easter_Eggs

[supple wedge]

I saw

I'm just asking

For confirmations sake

[true mason]

Feel free to add the sushi and slug easter eggs

[supple wedge]

Sushi?

What sushi

[true mason]

.

[true mason]

look this video

[amber minnow]

apparently it's been up since the original sn1 released, but i just learned about the official wiki today. fandom's seo is really out of hand

this sucks because i've put quite a few hours into the fandom wiki, believing it was the only one

[vague marten]

this extension replaces fandom links in google searches with the official wiki https://getindie.wiki/ sn2 isn't on the current release version yet, but next version it will be

sn1 is already in the release

[amber minnow]

yes i love that extension, that's how i found the official wiki in the first place

for some reason it either wasnt listed or broke bc it didnt put a banner up until today

[agile spindle]

seems like it is now

goes to sn2 correctly

[vague marten]

you might have just not gotten the update until recently - it was updated on the 11th with sn1

oh, is it? the commit history shows v3.14.5 as before sn2 pr got merged https://github.com/KevinPayravi/indie-wiki-buddy/commits/main/

[agile spindle]

it goes to the sn2 page correctly ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith drum]

hm, hello wiki people what are some wiki pages that dont exist yet and need to be done for SN2, anyone got ideas?

[amber minnow]

now that i think about it i might have just accidentally disabled the banner and then never used a search engine...

idk why it reappeared tho

[amber minnow]

go to Special:WantedPages

[agile spindle]

We need pages for all of the different Biomods https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Biomods

[zenith drum]

thank you good sir

[agile spindle]

and yea, Special:WantedPages has some good ideas in there

[zenith drum]

oh god, i only use dash and oxygen control myself time to research some of them then i guess

[amber minnow]

real

[zenith drum]

oh this one is gonna be absolutely fun in survival prob same experience like trying to scan a reaper in sn1 without static rifle or chelicerate in sn:bz

[amber minnow]

you'd best do creative mode wherever possible when researching

[zenith drum]

nahhh im gonna do survival will be fun to experience the collector leviathan finally considering he never even caught me

and done thankfully the ai is not that good yet

[amber minnow]

ok this is strange. my account and all of my edits and everything has been scraped and put into the official wiki

[jade solstice]

SN2 replaced the Databoxes / their name

they are now called Recipe data cards

or well the cards inside them are

instead naming the box itself SN2 names the card inside them now

[limpid bay]

What can u put into the growbed in subnautica 2?

[jade solstice]

wrong channel

[tight harness]

[[sn2:growbed]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/growbed

[tight harness]

@limpid bay ^

[limpid bay]

Thank you

[vernal cypress]

with or without text color?

[tight harness]

I like the color

[jade solstice]

feel like color helps

[vernal cypress]

🙂‍↕️

[amber minnow]

hey should i be cross-referencing the two wikis when it comes to lore

[agile spindle]

yes

[amber minnow]

like for example, can i cite a data entry from BZ or put a "main article" template leading to a list of sn1 characters

[agile spindle]

yup

[jade solstice]

wait why though we have pages for the sstuff on the SN2 wiki that are in that game like Alterra

[agile spindle]

Alterra is in every game ;p

[jade solstice]

if we now start cross linking its gonna end up the same mess as the old wiki

SN2 was split for a reason

[amber minnow]

alterra is actually the page i'm working on rn. i was gonna add a link to the list of characters/alterra employees from the wiki about the other two games rather than adding them here bc most dont belong on this wiki

[agile spindle]

if the page exists on the SN2 wiki or the information is specific to SN2 then you should always link to the SN2 wiki

but for lore, if you want to refer or link to something that only exists in a previous game, that is also good

[jade solstice]

im actually working on the faction pages at the time

[agile spindle]

just dont make a page for something that doesnt exist in SN2

[amber minnow]

but for example ozzy from the cafeteria shouldnt be linked here and listing him direclty implies he should

[jade solstice]

what do you mean

Ozzys only listed on the SN1 wiki

[amber minnow]

yeah so that's why i'm only gonna add a link to /that/ list, not write a list here

unless you think i should list him without creating a page

[jade solstice]

one sec

[amber minnow]

my main concern is that people will see that and assume it needs a page on the sn2 wiki

[vague marten]

you can interwiki link - [[sn1:Page|Page]]
https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn2/Special:Interwiki

[jade solstice]

i purposfully left out any charactzers from the alterra page not mentioned in SN2

i was told wed conenct the SN2 and SN1 wikin pages like we did the 2 wikis to each other

[amber minnow]

yes my secondary concern is that they shouldnt be included period because they aren't present

[jade solstice]

if well cross link after all ill re add the old stuff later as im currently doing stuff with alterra pages

[vague marten]

no, the opposite - the eventual plan i believe is to possibly split sn1 and bz to separate them like sn1 and sn2 wikis are rn

[amber minnow]

but i was going to add a list so people can find the rest of the franchise's characters

[amber minnow]

a link to a list***

[jade solstice]

but i feel like we should just link the other wikis pages at the top via a info field that brings you to that page

like for example having a Titanium page and at the top a field that links to the SN1 Titamium page

[tight harness]

[[Template:External]]

[willow vector]

https://wiki.subnautica.com/sn/Template:External

[jade solstice]

so that we dont re introduce the SN1 and BZ merging mess

[summer kindle]

it doesn’t do that

[jade solstice]

it will if we start adding all the old games character sonto the SN2 page

[agile spindle]

we can link from SN -> SN2 in that way currently, though there isnt one set up for the other way around yet

[tight harness]

template external adds a link at the top of the page to the other version(s)

[summer kindle]

You can mention Paul Torgal on the page for the Mongolian Independent States, and link to Paul Torgal’s SN1 page.
I don’t see what problem this causes

[vague marten]

that was a decision from fandom staff afaik, not something you'd have to deal with here

[jade solstice]

Torgal isnt mentioned in SN2

its a game for SN2 not SN in general

[amber minnow]

genuine question - why do you plan to split the sn and bz wikis? so they're neatly self-contained and to avoid constant disambiguation?

[jade solstice]

we shouldnt add stuff to a games wiki page that isnt in the game itll just clutter the page in the end

[vague marten]

yeah - way too much stuff on sn1 links to disambig pages it's a mess

[jade solstice]

you can imagine the pain with all the pages that are like Titanium (SN) Titanium (BZ) when editing

[amber minnow]

ohhh editing that too

[jade solstice]

anyways if you have ideas for Faction pages let me know thats my field of work here

i have several im working on

[amber minnow]

ok, will do

[jade solstice]

but yeah lets do the External linking thing - itll also avoid spoilers for other games

imagine you check smth for alterra on SN1 and accidently learn about the stuff from SN2 before ever playing because its on 1 page

im back to work will let you know when i have the current page projects updated

[summer kindle]

Just the first thing that came to mind

An actual example would be like Ryley Robinson

[vague marten]

the external template isn't copied over to sn2 yet, so it's just for going sn1/bz->sn2 right now, but it should be copied over at some point, though doing that prior to splitting 1 and bz will probably mean it goes to disambig pages

[amber minnow]

yes and we might as well avoid backwards spoilers when possible

[summer kindle]

Actually

Ryley probably does need an SN2 page

[amber minnow]

a lot of people will play sn2 and then try sn1 or bz for the first time