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[jade solstice]

aswell as atleast 1 survivor calculated for each of the other pods

and possible unidentified Crew / Passengers in pod 17 based on Ozzys wording (without its only 28- 42 survivors)

[cursive marsh]

Not sure if this is the correct place for wiki updates/corrections, but apparently the alpha peeper databank entry cannot be unlocked in-game
#subnautica-chat message

[remote leaf]

[heady gulch]

Reminder: lets not add anymore pesonnel to pages unless they are directly named.

Reason: You made a near never-ending list on the alterra page. And we still havent figured out a good formatting method for all this information.

[jade solstice]

i can figure one out

[heady gulch]

im happy to hear that. This page has been on the backlog of things to do.

[jade solstice]

i can make a few drafts and see wich is preferred

that pages my baby anyways

[heady gulch]

Try and look at it from a reader's perspective.

no reader is going to trudge through an entire list like this.

[jade solstice]

i would

[heady gulch]

you're the only exception.

[jade solstice]

it has alot of lore

i could set up new pages for charachters and for products

[heady gulch]

Separate named characters from unnamed characters. Roles and functions can be described in a paragraph instead of listed on repeat.

"Delta crew contained several unidentified members of the mining crew" instead of this.

A lot of the information here is valid. But it needs to be presented in a way that isn't a list. A lot of things can be written about and described in paragraphs.

[jade solstice]

i did that only because that the exact ammount of unnamed crew that are listed

[heady gulch]

you have enough information here to break down the hierarchy of things. its better to write it than to put the raw info in

[heady gulch]

6x instead of 6 repeated lines would have sufficed.

[jade solstice]

ill set up drafts this week

[heady gulch]

or just writing "Mining crew delta's 9 members included Omar, Marcus, Jessie Shen and 6 unnamed members"

[jade solstice]

shen isnt confirmed to be in that group

[heady gulch]

my point stands.

also anyone uncomfirmed. dont add them in.

we want to avoid speculation on things.

[jade solstice]

all i have are confirmed via logs

the unnamed are the ones from lifepods logs and aurora recordings

ill link the sources later to them

any questions to sources?

[heady gulch]

Present as much of this as you can as detailed writeups to describe the employee or power heirarchy of the crew, alterra, etc. Think of something that can work. Best way to phrase it is. I love the enthusiasm on figuring out stuff like this. But, this information is being presented raw. it has to be processed first.

look over the page a few times, find where information can be implemented or distributed, etc.

[jade solstice]

employee lists are allways raw

but we can work on updating charachter pages

[heady gulch]

Example is this

"Indra Cormac (President of Alterra TransGov)"

Despite being legally recognized as a Trans-Gov, Alterra considers itself a corporation. Its corporate structure is made up of an elected board of directors that appoints the overall CEO, appoints the CEOs of major subsidiaries, and makes major economic decisions. Alterra Corporation is made up of millions of smaller companies that are partially or fully owned by Alterra. The corporation makes money off these companies and in return provides expensive services such as starship production. More successful companies' CEOs have a shot at the board of directors. Employees for Alterra are entitled to a one-time share in the Alterra Corporation to afford payments of the Alterra dividend. An exception to these rules are contractors, who are paid by Alterra but are not strictly employees.
(paragraph 2 alterra page)

[jade solstice]

charachter lists are standart to be raw

serving as a possible link to their charachter page

[heady gulch]

you could find a way to add a sentence or input their name in this paragraph

[heady gulch]

the list has devoured over 3/4ths Of the page. It needs to be restructured and reformatted.

[jade solstice]

like i said its enough info to warrant a dedicated charachter page

that is then linked in that section instead

ill draft it later and share

[heady gulch]

stuff like high ranking officials of alterra. the real "Decisionmakers" should be implemented into the alterra page.

[jade solstice]

for that theres usualy a small info box section for 'leaders'

[heady gulch]

Information such as employees on the Aurora should be implemented within the aurora page itself in whatever sections best see fit. if they aren't there already.

unidentified crew do not get a place in any list.

[jade solstice]

with that i meant we dont know their job

[heady gulch]

Then we stick to what we know.

Because unidentified crew equate to just a statistic in the ship crew numbers.

[jade solstice]

they ar known tho

its 2 of the people speaking in the Alterra call to the aurora

one of those 2 is actuallt the main speaker in the log

[heady gulch]

which is not apparent when you read the word "unidentified (alterra HQ employee)". Point still stands.

[jade solstice]

ill redo it when im home

i have a full list of alterra crew and passengers btw in a sheet

[heady gulch]

this is terrifying btw.

[jade solstice]

unknown one is from the lifepod with the radiation suit log

the one that blew up the pod with a flare

[heady gulch]

Unknowns will not be in any lists.

[jade solstice]

i mean... she even has a damn voice actor

[heady gulch]

Yes, and she can be mentioned on the page that has the radiationsuit log.

[jade solstice]

shes not crew anyways so she doenst matter for alterra

[heady gulch]

Because her presence in the games, narrative, etc, is localized to that lifepod.

[jade solstice]

btw, every single charachter i ever mention is confirmed to exists

i dont even officialy count any crew from the unseen lifepods (wich the wiki does)

[heady gulch]

unknowns can be consolidated easily in sentences. its not difficult:
"Emissary Jochi Khasar along with 9 other survivors had . . . "

[jade solstice]

oh no no theres no 9 others

that just his official passenger number on the Aurora

[heady gulch]

point still stands.

unknowns can be consolidated into sentences that provide context on a page.

[jade solstice]

theres no crew to add anyways anymore

everythinf i would have added is added

i can cut it short tho in sections and do what i said i would

[heady gulch]

mk, work something up when you have the time, I'm eager to see

[jade solstice]

i mean we def need a crew list

one not cut off by game info like rn lol

instead it should be cut by were they are stationed

Alterra HQ, Aurora and the sector Zero

i have a full list of all of them on my sheet

including stuff for a cut content section for those like on yhe databank pages

fun fact Mercury II had minimum 14 crew

back later

[sterile totem]

how does one create the icons for large room glass dome, large room partition, and large room partition door?

finally managed to fix the Large Room SN page but i need icons for the other Living Large building pieces

[sterile totem]

fully finished moving Large Room Dome, Multipurpose Dome, Large Room Partition, Large Room Partition Door to their own unique SN pages

[remote leaf]

Thanks

[sterile totem]

there are probably a few {{SubnauticaLink}} templates I forgot on the BZ version of the pages but i've been working for at least a few hrs on this

i will still need icons for the base pieces though

[final cloud]

Any chance you guys can move away from fandom the layout sucks and is covered with ads to the point its unusable and ad block isnt an option on ios

[summer kindle]

yes

[crimson terrace]

Yea

[sudden dove]

Yes it is. Use Firefox + uBlock Origin. If you'd like to reply to this or continue this conversation please do so in #off-topic.

[modern night]

i think he/she meant hes/she on ios and ad block isnt a option to him/her.

[obtuse basalt]

There is a mobile fire fox

[obtuse basalt]

I have it on my phone

I use it primarily to watch youtube and browse the wiki

The youtube app is unusable. I had a 2 hour unskippable ad about vampires.

[sudden dove]

Stahp

[obtuse basalt]

What

[final cloud]

Um that dosnt work on iOS like I said

Hence why I brought up if you'd consider moving to a less scummy site

And don't pretend fandom isn't scummy most of the big fandoms ditched it for anti consumer practices

[summer kindle]

yes the intention is to host the SN2 wiki elsewhere

[vernal cypress]

The pins kinda state otherwise

[spark coral]

We need more leviathans

[heady gulch]

Regardless of what happens, there will always be the fandom subnautica wiki. Which is open for anyone to update and keep up to date with subnautica 2’s early access.

Nothing is stopping anyone from continuing to update. Maintain. And adapt subnautica 2’s content into it.

[tepid marsh]

@onyx flower Hello, will there be Russian language in Subnautica 2? Since I really want it, but the language is not specified in Steam?

[modern night]

First off, we do NOT ping the devs, 2nd we don't know yet, also when a dev tells you there wont be for now you don't ask another one.

[lapis quail]

Go see rule 10

[summer kindle]

that’s referring to the Subnautica 1 and BZ wiki, moving that whole thing seems like a lot more effort than it is worth

[vernal cypress]

yeah I mean, I'm all for the SN2 wiki not to be on fandom

[final cloud]

Yeah I'd settle for this I know most of what I need about the first game so it's rare to visit over reddit now

[jade solstice]

feels kinda weird tbh to haveSN2 seperate- could risk part of the Lore context beeing lost for it

it feels SO weird that id risk having to move everything myself

[sharp oak]

Pretty sure UW said not to move the SN1 and BZ wikis elsewhere

[jade solstice]

wich makes it even weirder to have plans to possibly split up the lore into multiple wikis

[jade solstice]

i can allready see many problems coming from having a series on multiple wikis or even platforms

specialy for consumers id would be like the split up seasons on many streaming platforms

im all for indie stuff...but splitting up a series is not the way it should be done

[sharp oak]

You can probably have the SN2 wiki link back to the SN1/BZ fandom wiki, in case of references.

[final cloud]

Maybe they don't want sbz left behind with s1 being moved due to community disbane for bz

[silent gazelle]

Wym disdane for bz, alot of ppl like it

[final cloud]

I'm not saying no one dose but if they allowed both to be moved s1 would be finished quite quickly

I feel like very few people would care enough toove bz unless it was required to move s1

Hence why they don't want either moved

So they don't have to worry about the logistics

[remote leaf]

No. It is more just the SN 1 and BZ wikis are already set up

So moving them isn't really a priority since everyone already goes there

SN2 can be started off Fandom with less worry

[lethal jackal]

a typo

[remote leaf]

How does it appear in game?

We follow the text in game exactly

If the game has the typo. Then the typo will stay in the wiki

[lethal jackal]

huh, then its the game but when I play bz again soon I'll take a look

honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was BZ

[jade solstice]

theres allways a risk with fandom beeing fandom

they might ban some users if they think they are splitting from the wiki

they tend to ban users from the wikis after tehy move indie for what ever reasons from what ive heard from indie wikis

[heady gulch]

FANDOM is in a rough spot yes. But this chat really is to discuss the matters over the Subnautica FANDOM, not wiki moving or migrating.

There will be a separate wiki for Subnautica 2, spearheaded by the current wiki keepers.

But this channel will remain dedicated for the FANDOM branch of the wiki itself.

You all need to stop asking about "will you guys move this or that or that or this".

Yes for SN2, No for BZ and SN.

We aren't restricting anyone from adding SN2 to the Subnautica FANDOM branch either. When the game reaches early access, the FANDOM branch will always be available to edit and implement Subnautica 2 into it. Especially as FANDOM themselves will want Subnautica 2's content implemented into the Subnautica FANDOM. there's a reason the BZ fandom was forcefully merged into Subnautica FANDOM branch.

[heady gulch]

Is this a risk we are taking?

Sure.

And if that happens, all it means is that there will be a 'passing of the torch' for who takes care of Subnautica FANDOM branch next.

[jade solstice]

im so addicted to doing lore stuff ill prob just do both ykn

i mean... i only rly have 6 to 10 other wikis i work with rn

[heady gulch]

if you dont figure out something on the alterra page then I'll have to remove the content list you made on it.

[heady gulch]

But:

• Subnautica 2 isn't out yet.
• This channel is dedicated for the FANDOM branch of Subnautica wiki. It's in the channel description. Not the SN2 Wiki branch we're building separately. our SN2 Wiki branch is not officially affiliated with Unknown Worlds; however, the FANDOM branch

[final cloud]

What do you mean channel description this ain't youtube

[heady gulch]

It’s not my job to familiarize you with the discord features. Its visible from the desktop interface,

[final cloud]

I can say with certainty most of discords user base has never signed in on a computer and I have not accessed this sub on a computer in a couple of years you can't put information where most of thr user base can't see it and get mad they don't know about it

[heady gulch]

I can challenge those statistics another day.

But for the moment. Top of the screen, tap on the channel name “#wiki - discussion”
It’ll bring up a tab with, and under the channel name with description under.

Like it details, this is for all talk related to Subnautica wiki- with link attached for Subnautica fandom wiki.

[final cloud]

Omfg that's a button

I thought they removed the ability to see who's online in a server on mobile after rhe ui update

I stand corrected

Also it dosnt specify fandom it says the subnautica wiki with a link to the current wiki

[heady gulch]

Overall point is the same

[final cloud]

I'd recommend making it clearer but that's your call

Cause it dosnt say we can't talk about moving the wiki or anything else you don't want us talking about here

[sharp oak]

Hi hello, moderator here.

This channel was created specifically for the Fandom editors to discuss about the making of the wiki.

I hope this clears up any confusion.

[heady gulch]

i just answered the question about moving like. a few messages up

[heady gulch]

^

[sharp oak]

We have orders NOT to move it. So we won't.

[remote leaf]

I dislike the fact the wiki is now redirecting people to viruses

UWE please

[red onyx]

This happened to me too.. I clicked the Subnautica 2 link from this channel and after a few seconds of reading it redirected me

[remote leaf]

You can see why we don't want SN2 wiki on Fandom

It is straight up becoming a security risk to use Fandom

and this has been a reported issue for years

[jade prairie]

Bro 💀

You know you arent supposed to ping the devs right?

[sharp oak]

Even if someone tries moving, the Fandom wiki has been the top result on Google for many, many years.

Anthony is design lead, he doesn't have anything to do with the wiki. People who do have told us not to move.

[remote leaf]

it is very hard to out beat Fandom, speaking from personal experience

[jade prairie]

Define “top result”

[remote leaf]

top result means first on google

it is VERY hard to get above Fandom

it took me years to do so with the other wiki I work on

[jade prairie]

I see

[sudden dove]

Chill.

[remote leaf]

the average person checks the first result

unless UWE starts adverising the non fandom wiki. you wont be on top

[sudden dove]

Remember to be civil during discussions. And also, do not ping devs.

[remote leaf]

as much as I hate the fact the Fandom Wiki is now a security risk. It would take A LOT of time to move over the wiki and get people to stop using it

the process takes YEARS of work to move over and kick Fandom off the top

[sharp oak]

Things are complicated.

[jade prairie]

And would it be really worth it in the end?

[remote leaf]

with a game that is fully released and not being updated? no

my other wiki only out beat Fandom cause it is an actively updated game and the Fandom wiki stopped being updated

Subnautica and Below Zero are done

people dont have a reason to move as a lot of people have ad blockers

[jade prairie]

Thats fair ig

[sharp oak]

Not really, it's a non-profit project about a really old, single-player game. It's a lot of time dumped into something that likely won't even get far. On top being below Fandom, the website also takes down alternate wikis.

[jade prairie]

got it

the website also takes down alternate wikis.

ig thats why you dont see other wikis

[sharp oak]

We'd need developer support, which we don't have. So it's not worth it. SN1 and BZ weeks stay as they are until someone at UW says otherwise.

[remote leaf]

If they ever do. I would help ASAP

Cause nobody should have to deal with viruses while trying to read a how to find Cyclops fragments

[final cloud]

There's extensions that can help with that

[final cloud]

Welcome aboard captain your the best captain on this planet I'm not even squidding

[sharp oak]

Only the most passionate fans use those extensions, they are redundant - whoever installs them, will avoid Fandom either way. The same reason why adblock is good for advertisers, those who install it would never click an ad either way.

[final cloud]

Isn't google scraping manifest 2 on chromium which will kill ad block cause I'm sure more people will install an extension then switch to Firefox

[sharp oak]

I don't think this is relevant, other than the fact that only a small percentage of people are passionate enough to switch browsers.

[ivory steppe]

Have we moved away from Fandom yet?

[sharp oak]

The SN1 and BZ wikis will stay on Fandom. No plans for moving away.

[cursive gate]

does this matter?

and i have seen official wikis (such as wiki.gg) overtake fandom on search results

[remote leaf]

.

[sharp oak]

It's not an easy task, especially for a 10 years old wiki about a single-player game whose Fandom wiki is officially supported by the developers.

[cursive gate]

hm yeah if the official wiki is still the fandom one itll be different than the cases ive seen

[zealous cloud]

Wiki.gg can move the entire wiki for you, but yea I understand why yall won’t be moving it.

I’ve done it previously with the SN Modding Wiki im the owner of

[remote leaf]

The difference is still trying to get to the top of Google searches for an old game

My other wiki only did it due to being apart of the game studio itself plus being an actively updated game. So people would click the links regularly

We don't have either for the Subnautica Wiki

[jade solstice]

@heady gulch

moved the crew section to the aurora page instead and just dropped a link for them on the alterra page

could do the same for the Crew stationed in Sector Zero

[heady gulch]

@jade solstice this is a good step in the right direction.
Reference #13 is broken,

As I've stated before, Unnamed crew should be removed. Try and put their roles before their name so it handles better like a readout.

Captain - Hollister
Second Officer: Keen
Medical Officer: Danby
Chief Technology Officer: Yu.
Prawn Bay Crews: Huggins, Wilson,
Engineers: Berkeley

etc etc.

anyone unnamed should not be part of the list. I'm not flexible on that. unnamed crew should be incorporated to describe a department or area.

[jade solstice]

well ok

even tho i still find it.. weird ... to not include come characters just because they dont have a name ehen they literaly have voice lines in the game

[heady gulch]

i didnt say dont mention them. I requested not to mention them in a list format. because it takes away from the content. There are many many other ways to incorporate them in. An example is important passengers, "7 other passengers" is a great start. It doesnt even have to be in the list format. you don't need these two sections (notable crew) and (important passengers) to be only lists. But if you put unnamed people into lists, I will remove them.

[heady gulch]

7 other passengers is a great start, but please try and use them as a sentence isntead of part of a list. there's no boundary saying you cannot write sentences under the notable crew and important passengers section.

Im marking this edit as a temp correction, feel free to work over it or around it.

[jade solstice]

i mean you could have atleast kept yhe HR one lol thats a pretty important role in a company

just without the 'unnamed' part

[heady gulch]

well if they have a name, you can assign it to them. I've drawn the line in a sand a while ago on listing unnamed personnel. Several times if anything.

[jade solstice]

@heady gulch ill be preparing 2 temp edits later for the BZ charachter situation and the Product mess

did you know that the Alterra team that was replaced by the Frost Pack in bz was called the "Vesper Ground Crew" in older builds

[jade solstice]

@heady gulch i have a test page ready for the BZ charachters

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:-Riko-Eden_of_despair/TEMP:_Frost_Pack its only a draft for now

[jade solstice]

oh yeah for later

the desc of the Jukebox talks about enjoying alterra musical artists

wich means- canonicly all the artists features with Jukebox Disks are Alterra Employees

[jade solstice]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:-Riko-Eden_of_despair/Alterra_Products second temp is up so that we can discuss

it only a draft, nothing is final in any way

just ping me when you have the time and/or have looked over it

need to check some stuff in BZ anyways still

and idk maybe you see some stuff i missed

[jade solstice]

btw apperantly someone made a Subnautica 2 wiki on fandom about 2 months back? and used AI to write the damn pages they did

and theres some 4 months old reddit posts about people wanting to move the wiki themselves without permission, with some of the people interested in doing to suggesting to vandalise the wiki here- so there may be some ...idiots... coming at some point

(for the list, possibly)

[jade solstice]

Alterra Products in NS:
M39 Assault Rifle
TBA P37 (P37 9mm Pistol)
SR3 Stryker Folding Axe (Switch-Axe)
X20 Vortex Shotgun (Shotgun)
The Mine

Tools:
Welder

possibly other but i went of visible logos rn

[onyx kayak]

This serveur Is ded

[sharp oak]

The server got a thousand new members today. This channel is specifically for discussions about the Fandom wiki.

[silent nacelle]

You're a gem aren't you?

[low hull]

wdym

[silent nacelle]

there was a message that was deleted 🙂

[cinder kestrel]

And here I thought you were calling out X_XD.

I do find it weird that a user would navigate to this channel and assume the whole server is dead. I wonder if there exist invite links that take people directly to this channel . . . ?

[remote leaf]

Wiki channels seem to just lure people. We had one in the SL Discord and eventually got rid of it cause we got tired of people using it for tech support

[silent nacelle]

hehehe it's a strange, strange world friends 🙂

[hybrid vortex]

it might almost be unknown...

hehe

[delicate cloak]

@fresh valley

[remote leaf]

@icy obsidian scammer in my wiki chat. please send them to the Dead Zone

thank you

[icy obsidian]

🥰

[turbid ermine]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Cyclops#Damage_and_Destruction

10%.

It's serialized as such too.

[sharp oak]

So it's a 150 shield?

[coarse apex]

hi

[jade prairie]

Do some of the devs help out with the wiki sometimes?

[remote leaf]

I think in the past we have gotten some confirmation over how things work from them

[jade prairie]

So just mainly on how features work? No things like editing or anything like that?

[remote leaf]

No edits

[jade prairie]

Alright

[opal yoke]

There’s a rickroll on one of the pages 🗣️

[remote leaf]

Which page? @opal yoke

[opal yoke]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Fungal_Sample?so=search at “mushroom wall planter”

In description subheading

[remote leaf]

@opal yoke taken care of

[opal yoke]

Yippee

It was so silly

[jade prairie]

So that means anyone can edit the wiki?

[sharp oak]

Yes, everyone with an account that isn't banned.

[jade prairie]

Got it

[spice island]

Did the release date get published? This is on he Subnautica 2 wiki

[remote leaf]

Afaik it hasn't been given a month

[sharp oak]

It's someone who keeps adding July to the page

The changes were reverted, but they keep adding it back

[remote leaf]

Ah. Didn't see any edits for it again

[sharp oak]

A ban would be appreciated

[nocturne turret]

excuse me someone know how to play multi ??

[sharp oak]

Join the server in #subnautica-modding for the game you want to play multi-player in. They will help you installing the mod and setting it up for people to join you.

[opal yoke]

On Bart’s page, it says “it’s possible that he discovered a purple tablet during this time, as the only other one found by the degasi crew was on orange tablet” which is just wrong cause there’s a log about the purple one they found in the island, right? But I don’t know how to re word that or fix it so I’m just gonna say it here, and the link: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Bart_Torgal

[sharp oak]

That's true, the purple tablet in Floating Island was found by Marguerite

Unless I'm wrong

Time to re-read every log

[opal yoke]

Yeah, she comes in and Paul’s like “omg don’t touch it I could sell it for money” and idk what Bart’s doing but yeah your right

[jade prairie]

The “he” is talking abt Ryley, no?

[opal yoke]

Ryley hasn’t been mentioned at all in that page at that point

It’s in the “after the crash” 2nd paragraph

Where it talks about after Paul and marguerite goes missing Bart goes back to the surface

[jade prairie]

Ok now i see it

[opal yoke]

It says “himself” the sentence before where it’s 100% talking about Bart

[jade prairie]

Huh

[remote leaf]

@normal quiver scammers be here

[opaque pier]

.

[fresh basin]

Devs confirmed that it hasn't been announced for July so the date is wrong

[summer kindle]

this has happened a bunch of times

for some reason

fixed it

[fresh basin]

Thanks

[remote leaf]

The same person keeps adding it

At this point they should be blocked

[summer kindle]

yeah will do

[remote leaf]

Oh wow they also vandalized the entire page. Had to undo it

[summer kindle]

yeah I just caught that too

[fresh basin]

Wow I completely missed the vandalism.

[foggy cedar]

would be nice if the wiki was converted to wiki.gg but idk how much effort that takes

[sudden venture]

yes lets leave fandom in 2024 🙏 (I can say this much easier as a bystander because I haven't contributed, don't know how many hurdles you have to jump through to actually make that happen so this is just wishful thinking lol)

[heady gulch]

[sharp oak]

The wiki will not move to wiki.gg, or any other platform. The current wikis will stay as they are, by request of the developers.

[foggy cedar]

ok

[cursive vigil]

So the wiki says that the ghost leviathans in the void are roughly 1.15x as large as the adults in the crater. Is this fact actually true?

[peak birch]

They are bigger yes

[sharp oak]

The size increase is correct

[jade prairie]

Is there any creature in the wiki that is considered “nocturnal”?

[sharp oak]

No

The first creatures added to the shallows were only active during the day, but as the development went on, the devs realized creatures can't know when it's day/night inside caves, so they stopped giving that trait

[jade prairie]

How is this cave behavior supposed to work?

[peak birch]

that's interesting, so I guess it depends on light levels or something?

[sharp oak]

In the code, they can, but logically, a creature that has no access to sunlight doesn't usually know when it's day time or not

[jade prairie]

?

[jade prairie]

So how it works is that when it’s nighttime, they are supposed to be in caves and when its daytime, they eventually get out?

[sharp oak]

No

River Prowler are always in a cave. There's no logic behind them sleeping at night when they've never even seen sunlight

[jade prairie]

Ok

[silent gazelle]

not directly but they can sort of

circadian rhythm

every creature has one

[silent gazelle]

for clarification: 'A blind, cave-dwelling fish in Somalia knows what time it is, but its "day" is twice as long as ours. Most animals have an internal body clock, or circadian rhythm, that lasts around 24 hours and is modified by the light-dark cycle of a day' (source: bbc)

[sharp oak]

They have their own sleep schedule but it doesn't coincide with our sunlight

[silent gazelle]

fair

i more meant their day/night is weird (atleast when it comes to our day/night cycle)

[jade prairie]

I cant tell if you're referring to the creatures in the game or irl

[silent gazelle]

irl

[jade prairie]

ah ok

[silent bone]

i have 1 question and 1 suggestion

question is does using "day " in console disables the cheat(i need it to be wrong 😭 )
(or is there non achievement disabling console commands)

suggestion is that it might be nice if effects of night is listed in a page or as a sub/side context in some page(if there is enough detail about it)

sorry for these dumb question and suggestion

[turbid ermine]

Every console command disables the ability to unlock the achievements. Even things like fps. Also using day is really not recommended for a playthrough as most things are time based after your actions. You can totally miss the explosion for instance.

[silent gazelle]

And the ||sunbeam, ive noticed if u use the day cheat it quite literally counts up past it in the negatives|| lol

[jade prairie]

Does it keep counting endlessly?

[silent gazelle]

Yes

The event doesnt even happen

[jade prairie]

Insane

[silent gazelle]

||The sunbeamaved by the matrix||

[silent bone]

i was at 12th hour or something

and wasted 5 hour with day console command

but thanks

itd be nice if there were non cheat commands and also a warning for cheat commands for the first time using them(or a question warning like - are you sure (y/n)

[sharp oak]

Nighttime isn't any different in Subnautica

Some creatures in the shallows swim slower, and solar panels don't work. That's all.

[high nest]

fish sleep at night

its cute

would be cool to see some nocturnal behavior though if possible

[silent bone]

I've heard predators are more aggressive and they tend to follow you further or something's like that

When I searched in internet

And some stuffs about aggro

But idk

[sharp oak]

That's nonsense, predators behave the same, except for a few that are less aggressive and slower

[jade prairie]

But it the mood mechanic thing is still a factor tho right?

[sharp oak]

It's separate from the day-night cycle

[jade prairie]

Ok ok

[silent bone]

Uh then you might wanna spread that because there is some disinformation about that (I searched night time Subnautica and multiple guy agreed that some of them?(Stalkers?) Are more aggressive)

E.g. https://steamcommunity.com/app/264710/discussions/0/135514823817947355/

[sharp oak]

Stalkers sleep at night. They barely attack

[high nest]

yeah i've never noticed increased aggression at night like pebble says i figured they were eepin

[sharp oak]

There's nothing we can do regarding Steam forums and Reddit - people are confidently wrong and will downvote everyone who tries to correct them

[high nest]

steam forums are the worst lmaooo

its always when im trying to look up a fix for something and the entire thread is full of people fighting hahaha

[sharp oak]

The wiki page for every creature says whether they are diurnal or active all day

[jade prairie]

Do you guys usually try to tell people the right information?

From what im seeing rn, ALOT of people are misinformed

[silent bone]

If there is a predator page would it be reasonable to add something like -on contrary to common belief predators aren't more active during night compared to day

Sort of thing

[jade prairie]

sadge

[remote leaf]

Our wiki page for the Stalkers state they become more aggressive at night

[sharp oak]

What

[silent bone]

🤣

[sharp oak]

Check who added that

[remote leaf]

Pretty sure it is an actual feature though

Let me check something

[jade prairie]

Hm

[silent bone]

I have a vague memory of that at first night in Subnautica pda says something like predators might be more active during night

Or my mind made that up idk

[sharp oak]

Nah, there's no mention of that

The wiki is quite the archive

Some pages had myths that everyone accepted as truth for ages

[remote leaf]

like stalkers giving you metal salvage when feeding them

[high nest]

omg i remember that rumor

[sharp oak]

Yeah, and the Reaper taming

[jade prairie]

Lets not forget, the july 2025 sn2 ea release

[high nest]

omg that one too

[remote leaf]

turns out it was just a coincidence as when they arent hostile they just go back to looking for metal

[high nest]

i love stupid rumors like that

[remote leaf]

anyways, looking at the Stalker code. I cant find anything about nighttime making them more aggresive

[sharp oak]

All creatures can be fed peepers, probably due to the infection/healing feature. Feeding creatures will cancel their attack. So no, you can't tame any creature besides the Stalker (for a short period of time)

[silent gazelle]

Then y does it work ingame tho, cause i feed reapers and tĥey leave me alone (ik they arent truly tamed tho)

Oooh

Scrolled up

My bad

Ignore my dumb msg

[remote leaf]

stalker is the only aggresive creature code wise that has a friendly feature afaik

[jade prairie]

How long does it cancel the attack for?

[high nest]

oh all of them? i only thought it was reapers and stalkers but i never tried anything else out

[silent gazelle]

With reapers (only leviathan i have personally tested it with) it tends to be around a minute or 2 when they swim away and then eventually circle back

So long enough to escape

[sharp oak]

There's no specific timer, the next attack will be based on their mood

Reapers tend to wait a lot between attacks

[high nest]

ahhh that makes sense, it always felt like half a minute-ish when i did it

[silent gazelle]

^^

[sharp oak]

Warpers may be an exception

[high nest]

yeah they like playing with their food don't they lmao

[silent gazelle]

Ive heard of it being doable with ghost leviathans

[jade prairie]

Fair enough

[high nest]

yeah that makes sense i dont see why the warper would care lmao

[silent gazelle]

I dont do it cause realistically it makes no sense

[high nest]

ill try it with some other leviathans though for sure

[sharp oak]

You can feed several enzyme host Peepers to infected predators, and they'll heal!

[silent gazelle]

Like why would a big whale like creature eat out of the hand of something that fits in its mouth with extra leg room lmao

[high nest]

funny

[sharp oak]

You can spread the disease in ACUs (it's cosmetic, fish won't die) and release them, to test it with all kinds of species

[high nest]

oh wow i knew you could heal them but i didnt know you could spread it with that

[sharp oak]

Alien Containment Unit

[high nest]

shame its only cosmetic though

[jade prairie]

Nvm, I immediately got what it is

[sharp oak]

It's cosmetic in ACUs, but once released, they'll be like any other infected creature. The only difference is that Warpers are aggressive towards them.

[silent gazelle]

Found that out the hard way, its like the pokerus virus in pokemon, rarer than shinies but spreads

[high nest]

ohhhhhh i never felt inclined to spread the disease but now i want to try it just to see

[sharp oak]

Again, another myth that was in the wiki for a while - getting in contact with infected creatures (eating/getting bitten) would advance your infection stage.

[high nest]

lmao like they're zombies or something hahaha

[sharp oak]

With the help of Ignis, I rewrote most of the in-game mechanics part of the infection page

[silent gazelle]

If it was irl i do believe that would 100% be the case tbf, but it aint irl so lol

[high nest]

🫡

[sharp oak]

The PDA talks about never eating infected creatures

[jade prairie]

Would be funny if it’s possible to break the warpers AI because of this

[sharp oak]

Oh my, I never thought about releasing several infected creatures near Warpers

[high nest]

omg it would get so overwhelmed hahaha

poor thing

[silent gazelle]

Imagine being the warper. An alien thats infected is swimming away, u teleport closer, then it just fish bombs you with infected fish lmao

[remote leaf]

Subnautica suffers a lot from "tell but dont show"

which is where a lot of rumors start from and how they end up on the wiki

[jade prairie]

Holy, this might be the only time this channel is very active after a long time

[sharp oak]

PDA making up features is the bane of our existence...

Like Bonesharks being attracted to light 💔

[remote leaf]

reaper has echolocation. trust me, the PDA never lies

just ignore the fact the code show no signs of echolocation guys

[high nest]

lmao

[silent gazelle]

Yea, i will admit i fell for that (not because of the pda, someone told me it did and i believed em lol)

[remote leaf]

when in doubt, remember this. the AI in Subnautica is very simple. a good thing to take in mind for the wiki

[sharp oak]

I would like to disagree

It's not extremely simple

[remote leaf]

there are somethings not simple

[high nest]

i like having my mind being full of possibilities whether its possible or not personally

[sharp oak]

Creatures have 6 moods

[high nest]

adds to the fear ahaha

[remote leaf]

though it is fun trying to find what is real and what isn't real

[high nest]

it is fun

[silent gazelle]

In that case its always a non zero chance theres a crash fish following you

[remote leaf]

like how the wiki states Eyeyes get bullied by other fish. turns out that one is real. I've seen it numerous times in game

[sharp oak]

The way they behave is quite complex, but their actions are simple. Bite and leave. Flee and resume patrol.

[jade prairie]

NAH

[remote leaf]

it sounds fake,. like "other fish just randomly slam into the eyeye and make them spin out"

[high nest]

well technically while playing nitrox with my friend we found heaps of crashfish in open water just broken LMAO so you're not wrong 😉

[remote leaf]

but no. Ive seen it. someone actually programmed that in game

[sharp oak]

Fish sending nasty comments to the poor Eyeye </3

[remote leaf]

some programmer really hates the Eyeye

[silent gazelle]

Now im glad i love the eye eyes

[sharp oak]

Eyeye capn

[remote leaf]

the fact the eyeye one ended up being true but none of the stalker ones is funny

[high nest]

amazing

i love the eyeye

[silent gazelle]

[sharp oak]

Bonesharks are more aggressive to vehicles piloted by the player. They are the only creature that behaves like this.

[remote leaf]

the life of editing a wiki is learning something you thought was the case wasnt years later

[remote leaf]

to be fair, bonesharks just hate everything. they attack each other

[silent gazelle]

Reapers when u park at the ||mountain island||

[high nest]

a bone shark followed my friend back into the plateau and we watched as it started fighting with the resident sand shark lmfao

but that's just nitrox being goofy lmao

still funny though

[silent gazelle]

Ive seen ghosts do that but it also seems unintentional and may have been a bug

[sharp oak]

Reapers are equally as aggressive to the vehicles, whether you are in them or not. No other creature even checks if the player is in there.

[high nest]

yeah the reaper will often prefer to destroy my seamoth even though i'm right beside it, it's just SO angry lmao

[jade prairie]

Not my seamoth bro

[silent gazelle]

Before i used mods excessively (and before i used mods that touched the void) i used to set up little void observatories, after about 10 minutes a ghost just flopped dead onto the top of my observatory roof

[sharp oak]

May also have been placebo - we think of something , then we see it happening. Until you realize they were actually doing something completely different but you wouldn't know at the time

[remote leaf]

cant wait to write the AI for Subnautica 2 Wiki

return to rumors being added to the wiki

[silent gazelle]

I have screenshots of their bodies

Posted em on this server as it happened

[high nest]

i was so obsessed with void bases for a while haha

[sharp oak]

Creatures take damage from hitting bases

[high nest]

super pointless in reality but i just thought it was cool

[remote leaf]

"guys I swear. I saw the giant crab in the trailer being able to pick up my vehicle and throw it at me. trust me guys"

[remote leaf]

bonk

[sharp oak]

Building a base near a leviathan will eventually kill it

[silent gazelle]

They where falling from above in a spot that didnt have a base section

[silent gazelle]

That does make sense tho if thats the case

[jade prairie]

Can a creature damage you through a base?

[silent gazelle]

I just thought they where slammin into eachother

[remote leaf]

collision is merely a suggestion in Subnautica

[sharp oak]

If they enter the base, yes. But if they're outside, nope.

[high nest]

when they were not implemented properly they could glitch through and hit you lmaooo

[jade prairie]

Ok

[sharp oak]

Creatures have a flag that stops them from attacking others of the same species

I don't think there's any creature able to do that

[jade prairie]

Yeah because I always have the fear that theres a chance a leviathan might kill me even tho im inside

[remote leaf]

I've seen Bonesharks attack each other often

[high nest]

early on i would get scared of the leviathan destroying my base and eating me hahaha

[silent gazelle]

One of us should make a mod that makes peepers aggressive they feel like they'd atleast be omnivores lmao

[sharp oak]

All large predators (except leviathans and Crabsquids), small vehicles and the player are sharks, so these creatures are will attack sharks. The flag stops cannibalism.

[high nest]

red plague moment

that mod was weird lol

[sharp oak]

Might've been placebo, check the code

[remote leaf]

Gah. I just turned off my PC. >:(

[silent bone]

would it be possible for you to check for effects on night as well? if there is and you wont be bothered by this

[sharp oak]

Nuh uh it was awesome (I have never seen anything about it)

[silent gazelle]

They made an april fools version called the blue plague

[jade prairie]

What is the lore of red plague anyway?

[remote leaf]

I found a variable for things affected by night

It linked back to the skybox

Which makes sense

[high nest]

it does have some neat things but its kind of full of cheap jumpscares which kind of ruins it personally lol, misses the point of what made sn scary in the first place

[silent bone]

what is skybox?

[sharp oak]

I don't know anything about the mod, only that the rat made it

[sharp oak]

The texture you see above the water surface

[high nest]

it was like some altered version of the virus, some like, halo-esque thing going on idk, i think its been updated and is ongoing so i don't really know that much

[sharp oak]

It's the equivalent of a sky

[silent bone]

got it

[jade prairie]

Here andy comes abt to say that the kharaa isnt a virus

[high nest]

it had a thing for the gargantuan leviathan which was kind of disturbing to watch

[silent gazelle]

I would love a subnautica mod that adds buildings every noe and again, no power, but it looks lived in and if ur in em for too long u hear the sound of footsteps, theres nothing there but yk, no jumpscares or anythin

[sharp oak]

Kharaa is a bacterium

[high nest]

bacterium whatever you know what i mean

[remote leaf]

cause it isn't a virus

[high nest]

omg i know lmao

[remote leaf]

Viruses aren't alive

[jade prairie]

Yes

[high nest]

lmao

[jade prairie]

Never say “the kharaa is a virus” in this server

[high nest]

but the red plague kind of turned it into a zombie-like infection

[silent gazelle]

Im goin to be folks cyall

[sharp oak]

You can't be inaccurate in wiki channel

[jade prairie]

Or else youre getting jumped

[high nest]

jumped by nerds i'm so scared ;n;

hahaha

[silent gazelle]

[remote leaf]

Inaccuracy is punished with Dead Zone™️

[silent gazelle]

Wait u where talkin to someone else my bad

[sharp oak]

Should've been Dead Zone*

(*isn't actually a dead zone, it is brimming with microscopic life)

[high nest]

yeah i thought calling it a dead zone was kinda funny

because you can see all the little fellas

[jade prairie]

And leviathan class organisms

[remote leaf]

Subnautica Devs and Biology

My favorite duo

(They aren't a good duo at all)

[sharp oak]

Don't worry, Seth and Alex are fairly competent 😼

[remote leaf]

(Why is the fauna that eats other fauna listed as a herbivore in BZ)

[high nest]

i think they do their research pretty well

[remote leaf]

Triops

It eats other fauna

[high nest]

the ecosystem feels very much alive

i love triops, they will also eat eachother lol

[remote leaf]

Listed as herbivore

[sharp oak]

Peepers eat corals; Membrane Tree is listed as flora

[remote leaf]

Gah

[jade prairie]

Hm

[remote leaf]

Membrane Tree is two different faunas

[sharp oak]

I'm glad Seth is classifying them as mobile and immobile

Can't get this wrong, right??

[jade prairie]

So sad he left the server, tho it’s understandable

[remote leaf]

Do they know coral aren't plants though?

[high nest]

oh rip, valid though

[sharp oak]

Seth knows algae aren't plants

[remote leaf]

Good

[sharp oak]

SN2 is in good hands

[jade prairie]

Yea

Will he ever come back tho?

[sharp oak]

People just can't stop pulling his nerves...

[high nest]

lmao if i was to guess probably not

people in servers can be really entitled towards devs and mods and stuff

[sharp oak]

So much misinformation from out-of-context comments...

[jade prairie]

It shows how much resistance devs like aryon have

[remote leaf]

It's not an easy skill to learn when you work at a studio.

[sharp oak]

You'll break your fingers before you break Aryon, she's rock solid

[jade prairie]

She was pinged alot of times, yet still asked kindly for everyone to stop

[sharp oak]

She has lots of experience in dealing with bratty fans

[remote leaf]

Anyways. What other misinformation can we find today on our wiki

Anyone who finds any will be given an imaginary cookie

[high nest]

i really appreciate all the time the devs take into communicating with the community and hanging out, i'm sure they're super busy and tired from working. mad respect 🫡

[sharp oak]

I should probably go over all the fauna pages and note down any peculiar piece of information

Looking for tales of McGuffin interactions

Like Warpers doing a victory wiggle or something someone claims they saw and put in the wiki

[jade prairie]

Sorry but the cookie I ate just yesterday gave me a bad stomachache unfortunately. So im just gonna leave, yall have fun now

[high nest]

"victory jiggle" lmao what

[sharp oak]

It was supposed to be wiggle 😭

[high nest]

either way still what haha

[remote leaf]

Architech Engineer: Trust me. This victory wiggle is nessescary for its functions.

[high nest]

getting emoted on by warpers lmao

[remote leaf]

This is why Im glad the SL Wiki isn't editable by the public

I can rest in peace knowing I won't wake up to seeing someone make something up in an edit

Or add "Weed Room" to the LCZ Page

[sharp oak]

I love it when Warpers do the silly pirouette

[high nest]

i dunno people still vandalize it

apparently someone did that the other day, i didnt see what it was though

[silent bone]

idk but isnt something like all edits must be confirmed by fandom mod sort of thing is possible

[sharp oak]

Subnautica 2 July 2025, trust me

[high nest]

its so cute lmao

[remote leaf]

SL Wiki isn't Fandom

So my team gets complete control on it

[silent bone]

i assumed subnautica wiki editable without confirmation

idk if its or not

[sharp oak]

Whoever added that to the wiki, must've gotten this information from a recent colectomy

[silent bone]

due to the misinformations

[sharp oak]

Anyone with a verified account can edit the wiki

[remote leaf]

Fandom generally wants wikis to be edited by anyone

[sharp oak]

Verified is like, getting an email from Fandom

[remote leaf]

Which allows misinformation to appear on a wiki easily

[silent bone]

not stonks gif

[high nest]

the silent hill wiki suffered so much vandalism lmao

[sharp oak]

I'm not sure if this is intended, but Fandom is encouraging vandalism when wikis move out by not putting on any safety measures

[high nest]

yeesh

[remote leaf]

This is why SL Wiki isn't Fandom + Ran by its studio

Complete control over the wiki + nobody would use a Fandom wiki if there is a wiki ran directly by the game studio

[peak birch]

Warper doing an emote after getting a kill

[remote leaf]

Best part is I dont have to worry about references

[high nest]

its playing fortnite

[peak birch]

Warper hitting the griddy

[sharp oak]

It may also be to increase traffic by allowing competing wikis for the same IP to fight each other

[remote leaf]

Look at the Subnautica Wiki and needing four references just to state the Frozen Leviathan is dead

[high nest]

i remember hearing people say there was a way to bring it back it was so dumb lol

[remote leaf]

This is peak of SN Wiki btw

Four references for one thing

We really wanted to hammer it in

Almost like the page was constantly changed to say it was alive

[sharp oak]

Large frozen creatures can't be revived btw, cells are pretty much destroyed

[high nest]

yeah i have no idea why people thought that

it's very much dead lmao

[remote leaf]

Clickbait

[sharp oak]

Some people think the Gargantuan is still alive in the void

[high nest]

yeah i remember people said the sound you could hear was the garg

[remote leaf]

The bane of our existence

[high nest]

and to be fair its a really creepy sound but cmon haha

[sharp oak]

And it's difficult to educate them because they always hit me with the "you never know what's under the void"

[remote leaf]

More water

The amount of energy it would take just to open its mouth is insane

[sharp oak]

The teeth clip

[high nest]

and like, sure, that is true, but also no 🥲

[sharp oak]

Because they're not properly spaced out

[high nest]

yeah it just wouldn't be able to survive

[sharp oak]

SN2 wiki will be for grown-ups only.

[high nest]

why do you think we don't have megafauna like that here anymore

[sharp oak]

We won't need to teach basic biology to our readers

[high nest]

it either died or evolved into something smaller haha

[remote leaf]

Well. The blue whale exists

[high nest]

yeah

[remote leaf]

Movies over the silly Megalodon when blue whale is bigger

[high nest]

LMAO yeah thats just due to the damage movies like jaws caused

poor sharks tbh

[remote leaf]

Anyways. Back into the depths of the wiki.

[high nest]

indeed

🏃‍♂️ 💨

[peak birch]

Doesn't the game literally say that there is nothing but microorganisms and ghosts in the void? Lol

[peak birch]

What about advanced biology? Universities should start teaching about Subnautica creatures

[silent bone]

btw make sure to add that stalkers or predators arent more active during night so that they wont rechange it

or theyll probably look and see and decide that the "fact" "stalkers are more active at night" is missing

[silent bone]

okay i have a suggestion but idk if its reasonable

make a page for false known facts

or make a page in another website then fandom and connect the false known facts to there , something like
" xxx.com/predators -predators arent more active during night[1]" and that [1] will connect to abc.com/falseknownfacts/number_153 there are no predators that are more active during nightsort of things perhaps

or just make the falseknownfacts/number_153 in fandom as well

idk

[silent nacelle]

Snopes for Subnautica..hehehe

[remote leaf]

I feel like a page of common misinformation doesnt fit the style of a wiki. That better fits in a reddit post (though from experience the reddit is where those misinformation are the strongest)

[open fern]

Whale

[silent bone]

make it like
"common known false facts
-FROM A MOD "
sort of thing?

[sharp oak]

It's still a pretty bad idea

[jade prairie]

Is this based on anything?

[sharp oak]

I think at best we could have a link saying "if you have any doubts about the game, join the discord server"

[sharp oak]

It's based on visual similarities

We already pondered removing it

[jade prairie]

Alright

[silent bone]

😥

[silent bone]

having a list of it would be nice i think

[sharp oak]

Not really, it would feel very un-wiki like to gather fake information, and anyone could add true info to the page, or remove it from the list because they saw it in a video

I understand your point, but it's a mistake caused by not reading the wiki. It shouldn't be the wiki's fault.

[silent bone]

i also meant having a list on discord would be nice as well btw

[silent bone]

i wanna remind that wiki had wrong info as well

[sharp oak]

So we fix the wiki

[vital goblet]

<@&85343211593166848>

[orchid river]

Guys what do you think is the freakiest fish in the game?

[silent gazelle]

Crab snake. Im terrified of them, but this aint the channel to go into it too much

[plush crystal]

Oh geez uhh- I really don’t like- warpers? Is that what they’re called? The critters

[humble saddle]

Bleeders

[sharp oak]

Theta specimen page needs revamping. Sharing traits doesn't mean being related. It says its living relatives have evolved almost beyond recognition, and biters and sandsharks clearly haven't.

[opal yoke]

i just wanna double check this with anyone who is smarter or can downpatch(as im assuming it used to be avaible but now isnt), the purple tablet below the underwater alien arch still exists but isnt reachable, atleast for me on any of my worlds, but it is still listed as a place you can find it on the wiki, so if er someone knows then yeah i think itd be better to remove it from the list of avaible locations and just put it in trivia

[sharp oak]

Nice catch

[turbid ermine]

It's the opposite.

It has been out of bounds for the longest time and now it's in bounds in the current patch.

[opal yoke]

oh

peak 🗣️

wait that means im not on current

crazy

[turbid ermine]

Let me check if the batch was regenerated with the current patch.

It's in the upgraded batches, for the changesets superior to 71172. So old saves should have been upgraded.

Maybe a cloud issue.

[opal yoke]

i made a new world just to check, and its in my old so

[opal yoke]

ah, so i am indeed not on the current patch

nov 2022 🗣️

something new every day, i thought it just er auto updated every time but guess not

[turbid ermine]

Are you on Steam?

[opal yoke]

❌ xbox version on pc

[turbid ermine]

It's possible this check-in wasn't pushed in that build, but was in the Steam Deck update on March 2023.

[opal yoke]

i think im a lil behind

[turbid ermine]

You're up to date with your store. You couldn't have known it was fixed.

[opal yoke]

oh okie

atleast i checked ig!

i kinda wanna buy subnautica on steam just for er more patches

[turbid ermine]

It doesn't have a lot much. Probably just this.

[opal yoke]

yeah but downpatching back to 2018 for more buggy bugs

for the sillies

[opal yoke]

if you care, you reminded me about steam deck, and that i have one, and that i cant play subnautica on it, so i own it twice now

[woven canopy]

Hello

[reef niche]

Yo

[rough sigil]

Is there a controller support on subbautica mobile

[modern night]

Yes there will be. also please use #subnautica-chat

[tulip stream]

Will subnautica 2 come to PlayStation 5?

[sharp oak]

This is the wrong channel for that question, but no. Playstation does not have an Early Access program. It may change in the future (full release, or Sony creates an EA program) but no promises.

[tulip stream]

Oh okay I was just wondering but thank you for giving me the answer

[tacit totem]

Would the autopilot command go under general or technical?

[remote leaf]

@modest drift send scammer to the void please

thank you

[somber skiff]

um so I was thinking and basically why does the degasi have alterra blueprints?

[opal yoke]

Probably because they are shared blueprints across multiple companies (if we go by PDA’s sam uses a xenoworks one and still has Alterra blueprints, of which talking about PDA’s degasi also shares) and if you read some wreck pdas you definetly know alterra and the Mongolians was in “business” with eachother, in a one officer keen talks about how they gave supplies for alterra (or atleast the aurora) and the whole auxiliary mission of the aurora was to try and find the lost Mongolian ship, so most likely they just share knowledge like blueprints

[somber skiff]

oh alr

[last crypt]

Hey notices an error on the wiki it says ampeels spawn in the mushroom forest they don’t if someone can fix this it be great

[sharp oak]

Additionally, certain tools, like the habitat builder, are mass produced by Alterra to other trans-govs, and others, like the Cyclops, aren't from Alterra.

[opal yoke]

On the mushroom forest page I only see them “wondering” into the biome (NE has ampeels from bulb zone and NW has ampeels from blood kelp zone, not spawning there and it being part of the northeastern list of fauna, but not the northwestern, soo

[tulip vortex]

hi
i have a question
will subnautica 2 be very expensive

[narrow apex]

The early acces will be cheaper then the full release, that's all we know so far if you would like to know more check out their q&a they answer similar questions

[sharp oak]

Remember that this is the wiki channel, for wiki maintenance purposes.

[trail flint]

Hi I have an idea for Subnautica 2

Leviathan flora

Like an overgrown biome with tons of flora but there are giant aggressive plants that are like leviathans

Some could also be passive like reefbacks

But just really big plants like leviathan sized

What do you think

[remote leaf]

this is the channel for the Subnautica Wiki

[trail flint]

Oh

Mb

Where do you post ideas

[remote leaf]

#subnautica-2-chat

[trail flint]

Thanks

[cinder kestrel]

!wiki test

!wiki Subnautica

[nova idol]

!wiki subnautica

Uh

!Wiki Test

Anyone know what biome the stasis rifle fragments are in. And if you do can you please show me a map of the subnautica biomes, where they are, and what fragments are in them

[sharp oak]

You can find them in crates all over Safe Shallows, Grassy Plateaus and Crash Zone (including the safe side)

[silent gazelle]

i have uh, yet to find any in the safe shallows

not saying its wrong, ive just never seen them there

[worn dove]

Where do I find the portal to the alien thermal plant or there is no portal?

Pls answer

[silent gazelle]

#subnautica-chat

[last crypt]

Hey mates
Just letting know that wiki says warpers are in bulb zone nothing about it in the fauna description and they only sometimes go in off the mountains so if someone with editing access could fix this it would be much appreciated
Or if you could just correct me if I’m wrong

[nova idol]

I have seen a warper in the upper region of the brine pool biome

Idk what he was doing there but I like to think he was just taking a vacation

[last crypt]

You mean the lost river send a pic of where you mean

[nova idol]

K

Wait nvm wrong biome

[last crypt]

Well than can someone with editing access update the wiki please

[sharp oak]

Everyone with an account has editing access

But I'll fact check you first, I have a tool that allows me to see every possible spawn point for everything

[lusty loom]

Even me ?

[sharp oak]

Except for you

[lusty loom]

[sharp oak]

It's complicated, they can spawn exactly in the border between the two biomes, and some spawn points are touching the Bulb Zone

Because the spawners for Warpers specifically aren't exact spawn points, but rather an entity that spawns Warpers nearby, it is possible that they do spawn in the Bulb Zone

The Warper also has Bulb Zone-specific traits, so I think the Bulb Zone can stay there

Each blue spot is a possible WarperSpawner spawn location

[peak birch]

They are literally tracing the edge lol

[last crypt]

Ok can we maybe put the in the fauna paragraph
My sister was looking for something read that and freaked out

[modern night]

What sre picks..?

[cinder kestrel]

Since we're in #📚wiki-discussion , I'm hoping it's how they write "pics" (as in: the shortened form of "pictures") and that they're offering to give us screenshots for the wiki.

However, based on their other messages (actually, just one message in #subnautica-2-chat ) and the age of their account, I think it's something that the mods will ban them for.

[modern night]

Why would they send safe pictures tho

[cinder kestrel]

Safe shallows pictures?

I'm just trying to come up with something here.

[sharp oak]

It's part of a scam.

[cursive marsh]

Cyclops shield generator wiki page seems to be missing deep grand reef degasi base

[last crypt]

Check if there is something saying spoiler if you click on that it shows up

[remote leaf]

Mobile moment

[cursive marsh]

I see...yes I was on mobile

[manic mica]

[jade solstice]

the Seamoth, Cyclops and Neptune are available in Creative Runs of early Below Zero builds

via the Mobile Vehicle Bay

but only the seamoth actually spawns when beeing build

[modern night]

Is the wiki getting moved away from fandom due to the massive ad problems any time soon?

[sharp oak]

No, the Subnautica 1 and Below Zero wikis will stay in Fandom, as requested by the developers.

There are no plans for moving out

[austere plover]

How can I recover an old backup?

[sharp oak]

It's not possible, once overridden you cannot go to a precious save

[jade solstice]

Pebbles hurt no matter if thrown or just by speaking sad thruths

[cinder kestrel]

once overridden you cannot go to a precious save
Nor can you go back to a previous save.

You cannot so easily go back to your previous precious save.

[sharp oak]

I'm sorry

[dense pagoda]

guys where I can get dril and grapple arm

[jade prairie]

Both can be found in one of the wrecks of the grand reef

[last crypt]

Both can be in underwater islands wreck probs the safest to

[remote leaf]

Oh. The table tracking got added to the wiki...

[void flower]

What actually happened on obraxis prime

[last crypt]

Lots of war crimes

[void flower]

How shady is altera?

[last crypt]

On a scale of 1-10 or

[void flower]

Yeah a scale would be ok

[forest dagger]

10

[last crypt]

13

[cinder kestrel]

@terse herald Welcome to #📚wiki-discussion . You may be looking for #subnautica-2-chat .

[terse herald]

ooo thank

[cinder kestrel]

How'd you end up in this channel, anyways?

[terse herald]

Hmmmm chatgpt told me to send my idea here

[remote leaf]

did they say the discord or the wiki channel?

because this is not a suggestion channel

nor should you listen to chatgpt

[terse herald]

ok

[remote leaf]

now for wiki chat. the tracking changes Fandom talked about has been slowly rolled out across the wiki, even after it was brought up how little benefit it is for our wiki

I undid this edit after seeing it. but we should keep a look out for any other tracking Fandom decides to add to our wiki without checking us

I also undid the one on the seamonkey nest page

[cinder kestrel]

I didn't even know this wiki was being considered for the feature until you mentioned it a few days ago.

[remote leaf]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Xenodrone98?threadId=4400000000000126188

this one seems fine

[cinder kestrel]

I agree that one looks good. I also agree this one looks bad.

[remote leaf]

I have no idea why that one is so long

other ones seem to wrap just fine

[cinder kestrel]

Blueprint and Location each have style="width: 25%;, which adds up to 50%. The Opened? column then takes the other 50%.

[remote leaf]

ah

good grief

[tight terrace]

`

[cinder kestrel]

`
What about it?

[tight terrace]

p

[regal jasper]

this is only half about the wiki but i think this is the best place to ask? so on the wiki there is a recording of all three alien voice lines (dialogue --> alien broadcasts) and i def remember them all being in the game. but between when they were sourced and now the third one seems to have been removed/changed. the 19 second line now plays a 4-ish second generic roboty-noise

and ive been in the files and i can only find RadioWarper1 and RadioWarper2 and no 3

[remote leaf]

Hm

[regal jasper]

so i guess what im asking is if anyone knows a) when it was changed, b) why, c) where the original or replacement sound files are stored

coz it must have been sourced somewhere to be on the wiki and it used to be in the game

[remote leaf]

I definitely dont recall it ever being changed

Tracking down when would require downloading older builds with steam depot to check

[regal jasper]

ive had for at least over a year now maybe 2 that when i play the line in game, it instead goes like wee-wee-weo-woo-wow-woo (best way i can put it)

[turbid ermine]

It's RadioPrecursor1.

[remote leaf]

Ah

[regal jasper]

hm wait is that in player with the other radios?

[turbid ermine]

The storygoal is called that way, the event I don't know. Let me check.

event:/player/story/RadioPrecursor1 2937

[regal jasper]

ah im directly in the sound files i havent got into the script stuff

does it play properly for you

[turbid ermine]

In the game it's as you said.

[regal jasper]

huh

[turbid ermine]

I had a script to play the events but it's in C# and I didn't reinstall dotnet yet.

[regal jasper]

ill keep looking then and see f i can find it here

so much unused stuff is still in the game it would be weird for them to remove it when it changes

[regal jasper]

i found the original/wiki audio named "deepgrandreef", cant find the one used ingame for that precursor broadcast

[magic igloo]

what's gonna happen to {{SimilarName}} (and other similar shortcuts) once subnautica 2 drops

[jade solstice]

hm?

[iron stirrup]

I want to partner with this server
my server is in my bio

[ionic basin]

self promo is against the rules

[iron stirrup]

no im not promoting

I'm asking the owner to partner

[ionic basin]

then i would recommend to dm the community manager.

[indigo hare]

Doubt it'll happen though

[fresh tide]

sea treaders cant attack you on recent versions but the wiki still says that they do

[sharp oak]

Scroll down, it's in the bugs section

There's a bug preventing them from attacking at any point

[fresh tide]

I thought they removed it because of something to do with another creatures behaviour

[dreamy folio]

Hey Aayewoo there is some thing in the wiki is it supposed to be like that?

Why is there a name of a Pokémon???

[peak birch]

Ditto is Latin for same

Same thing

[heady gulch]

This gave me a good chuckle

[dreamy folio]

I dont speak latin or play pokémon 😭

[remote wyvern]

I've seen ditto in tons of wiki pages, for things like roblox games n stuff, I guess one wiki did it and the rest rolled on with

like a big avalanche

[sharp oak]

It's a common occurrence in documentation

Instead of repeating the same thing over and over again, people use " or Ditto

[cinder kestrel]

Or, if they're being accurate, they'll use 〃, which is called a ditto mark.

[exotic parcel]

hi fun fact: you used to be able to place solar panels on the cyclops but it was removed to encourage people to go deeper:
wiki: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Solar_Panel_(Subnautica)

[cinder kestrel]

Yes, that seems to be what the trivia section of that article says.

[exotic parcel]

yes i thought it was a really cool fact

[neon shore]

fun to know lol

[rancid kettle]

i cant wait for sub 2 btw will there be BIG leviathans

[ionic basin]

#subnautica-2-chat and judging by the devlogs i assume there will be big leviathans

first off, english only server
second off, this looks like a scam

<@&85343211593166848> yep that is a scam

[lusty loom]

Worst of all, it’s not related to the Wiki discussion

[cinder kestrel]

It'd also violate the [[Guidelines]], Rules of Conduct, #1 and maybe #11.

[willow vector]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Guidelines

[gray ledge]

Remember when the wiki said there was a cove tree inside the crag field

Oh and also the purple pinecone isn’t found in the grand reef at all

[sharp oak]

Yeah, someone played a mod and thought it was canon...

[sharp oak]

True, there are only 2, in the Northwestern Mushroom Forest. The other "purple pinecones" are actually just a similar looking plant that can't be harvested

[gray ledge]

And that “young cone” can’t even be found in the grand reef reef

[naive echo]

Hello, I'm looking for Moonpool fragments but I can't find anything. I need help.

[sharp oak]

All over the floor of Mushroom Forests

[naive echo]

I can never find any 😭

in this area ?

[urban estuary]

Yes

Its also a good area for the cyklops

[naive echo]

I confirm, I can't find any Moonpool parts to moor my submarine.

[urban estuary]

Then i dont know

[naive echo]

🙁

[urban estuary]

There is 2 mushroom forests you can go look in the other one

[naive echo]

Mhhhh

[urban estuary]

If you stil cant find it i would try loking a bit more then trying to reload the save and look around again

[naive echo]

Unfortunately, I can't find it... I'm stuck

[lusty loom]

#subnautica-chat

[silent gazelle]

im late to the party, as much as this belongs in #subnautica-chat, check the grand reef wreck, it has some moon pool fragments

[remote wyvern]

I go to the edge of the grand reef, where that wreck is has a couple of moonpool fragments, its also only a few hundred meters deep, around 200 meters deep if memory serves

[cursive vigil]

Yes it is around 200

[silent gazelle]

my fave spot for building a base

[neat orchid]

subnautica?"

[cursive gate]

broken link to future project, might want to replace it with like a wikipedia article or smth or just remove the link idk https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_Rifle

[viscid ivy]

sea crown bg is acting weird

theres like a half loaded emeperor image

[umbral roost]

Would it be possible to add that 4546B is in the Milky Way?

[umbral roost]

Since it is mentioned that the Sunbeam is from the Andromeda Galaxy.

[fresh pawn]

I love reading subnautica spoilers

Honestly

Also, I love reading about the penglings

[ionic basin]

i think seth confirmed its in the milky way

[umbral roost]

Exactly

[frozen rapids]

I have a question on the wiki and what I've seen marguerit dug a piece of metal into a reaper leviathan was that changed because I found "the end" PDA log and it says it was a alien kraken which I'm assuming is the crab squid. Am I missing something?

[gray ledge]

The “alien kraken” was just paul interpreting the mandibles of the reaper as tentacles

But a crabsquid most likely scavenged the aftermath

[frozen rapids]

Oh that makes a lot of sense I forgot the reapers have mandibles

I've been to scared to even go near then

[sharp oak]

There's a Reaper roar before the explosion, in a different entry

This is later confirmed by the Reaper skull in Maida's BZ base

Andyways, this channel is for wiki stuff, not lore questions!

[proper stratus]

S

[gray ledge]

Not just that, the pda entries also confirm it

[modest kite]

yall ever think about what a garg leviathan tastes like?

[gray ledge]

Well really right now just salty

Since the lost river in general would just be salty

[gray ledge]

Lies

I have to deal with their hitbox all the time

[turbid ermine]

Especially when they're inside a Cyclops. :þ

You can't pass the door and when you use the target command you get a big round collision that says it's the school of fish.

[remote leaf]

Hello, do you have a problem with the wiki?

[jolly imp]

I love reading the wiki

[old hare]

That it is on Fandom, meaning it has countless unbearable ads at all times. Often as many as 5-7 on the screen at once.

[remote leaf]

Well. My message was for someone who had their messages deleted

Probably a bot

[lusty loom]

The guy waving?

[old hare]

Well I still passionately hate fandom. But it is a lot of work to switch, so I don't really expect that to happen.

[bleak knoll]

👋

[radiant hearth]

Please do not spam channels

[jolly imp]

I absolutely love reading the wiki

[proud shale]

👋

[old hare]

Is there a chance the wiki will be moved to another site than fandom?

[opal yoke]

Pretty sure someone asked that before and a wiki keeper said no

[cursive gate]

presumably eventually itd be but thats likely no time soon because moving is a lot of work

[proud shale]

👋

[gray ledge]

where can you find this Earthen coral? i want to see if it still emits light

its really hard to tell

i found a cluster of glowing tubes at 1260 -275 534

the glow isnt actually part of the tube

original tube at 1233 -262 526

[manic field]

It's something we've talked about extensively for years, we won't say anything further about it until we have a plan set in stone, whether that is yes or no. Right now we are remaining on Fandom until otherwise stated by us, or by the Developers/Donya (Community Manager).

[old hare]

Okay, thanks for the information.

[remote leaf]

What is with all the waves in the channel

[lusty loom]

Their bots

Scouts for scam bots or something

[gray ledge]

typo, meant to put added more images of the Reefback Coral 01

what other things dont have close ups and size refs

[gray ledge]

Ok so can we just completely overhaul the sparse reef wiki gallery?

Since it’s like suppeerrr outdated

[manic field]

Sure, what part of it is the most outdated?

[gray ledge]

well these ''anemones'' dont even appear here anymore

[manic field]

Ah yes, we could move those images to a history subpage or another gallery below that has historical images.

Cause it's nice to record what has changed, what it looked like and what was replaced/added over time.

[dusty oasis]

Could we amend the gargantuan leviathan PDA entry to clarify that it has reached sexual maturity (adulthood) but doesn’t appear to have finished growing? I feel like this would be both settling a debate I’ve heard about regarding its age and making it all the more terrifying that these things don’t stop growing.
Also, how about saying that only females enter caves to lay eggs, and then they die in said caves to give their spawn a food source until they are large enough to hunt prey without risking their safety.
So males would stay in the deeper and less confined ocean until their own exoskeletons become to heavy to swim with and they sink to the bottom, when they die bc they need to move to breathe (gills).
What do y’all think?

[cinder kestrel]

Are you asking for the entry in the game to be changed to include this information, or are you asking for the entry on the wiki to be changed away from what the game says?

[dusty oasis]

All

All of them

Idk I just feel it is necessary

[gray ledge]

Is this information in the databank entry?

[heady gulch]

Yeah no worries let’s casually rewrite subnautica history too

[cinder kestrel]

This channel is #📚wiki-discussion . It is for discussing the wiki; it is not for suggesting changes to the game. #subnautica-chat might be better for what you want to accomplish.

[dusty oasis]

My bad. Still getting used to the layouting. Thx

[remote leaf]

@agile spindle https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:TheSchlime9000?useskin=fandomdesktop
Can you block this person? They keep adding gibberish to Fiber Mesh.

[agile spindle]

I don't believe I have moderator permissions anymore, haven't for a long time

[remote leaf]

Rip

[gray ledge]

is that a pygmy fan cluster inside the kelp??

[manic field]

I think you removed them from yourself.

[round siren]

Are we ever gonna move off of fandom?

[ivory steppe]

No.

As far as I know, the community is sticking to Fandom.