#bugs-and-stuff
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people that subbed before founder badge was introduced got that i think
seen a couple people with it
some ppl have it atm
should be manually switched
i gave exclusive access to people who wanted before subs went live to all, and initially the badge ID defined was that of the normal one instead of founders
i'll be swapping it out
the biggest joke that with 1month founding - they will remain like that for a long time
btw, if sub-badge will evolve with subscription time (like twitch ones) - will it be possible to switch between versions?
mean, will a 1y sub (for example) be able to choose the original sub badge?
Fairly sure mine bugged, im still on the pissyellow instead of founders
๐ (future tense)
so you probably will get your deep dark one soon (
)
You're right Enzo it was a bug tho
is subbing down?
dont think so
any errors in your console?
f12 thingy?
ye
I noticed when i was gonna try to see if i could gift a specific account that stripe took a minute to redirect but it did go there.
I FOUND IT BY MYSELF
says it cant load it
Failed to load
Oh
Status 403
i can click it just fine

on firefox if that matters
screenshot of the error? @glossy sierra
gonna dm cause i dont wanna leak any shit
I'd like U to leak some of your shit, honestly 

i mean i have 4k wallpaper with anime girls with boobas in bikini....
leaked 

animated emotes are a layer above static 0 width emotes
Ouu good spot 
yeah, was detected on the 1st days of 0-width test
the problem is animated emotes occasionally "re-render" in chat after some frame
mean since one of the frames passed away, emote "re-applies" in chat and all the next frames go over
Thats a chatterino specific bug
chatterino's zerowidth implementation isn't very good
also the explination above isn't really correct
yeah the same thing happened with the invis character that merges emotes on chatterino
oh well thanks anyways
chatterino always puts animated emotes on top for whatever reason
it could likely be fixed pretty easily, but I just don't think anybody has had the time or has thought to look into that
it hasn't been that big of an issue in the past, since zero widths weren't very common
and still aren't common in upstream chatterino
previously, it wasn't
we got it in twitch native on 0-width tests
Regardless of if it was or wasn't it would have been a completely different bug
not related, just coincidental
chatterino's rendering bares very little semblance to the way emotes are rendered in browser
since it wasn't specified where it was from, I answered about twitch chat
it worked like that, after some frame 0-width emotes came under animated ones
idk about the exact mechanics tho
iirc, zneix was pinged with such kind of report and approved Chatterino bugs 0-width emotes
maybe he will have a time to fix it later
infinite notifications 
same issue, even after refresh
PayPal 
more like KEKL EgVault
Not sure if this has been asked or if this is even the right place to ask, but what does this do? does it change my chat name color or what 
If you wanted gold for twitch you can and it's free already btw^^
Yea paypal's being really really good atm
What do I need to do to use custom 0 width emotes if I'm already subbed?
Browse the emote section and check "zero-width only" in the left panel and add some to your channel. And you should be good to see them in your chat.
can i somehow subscribe with paypal rn or do i just have to wait
Can I use them everywhere or only on added channel?
they are channel-related
^
the channel where U want to add 0-width emotes should be subbed (either it's ur own channel or impersonating by U)
Thx
if you add an emote and then make the emote zero-width while its added, it will be removed client-side, but stay added server-side, leaving you with a non-zero-width version of the emote added that cannot be removed @humble pelican
you should be able to remove it still
you cant
by going to the page and clicking remove from channel
it only works if you add it before making it zero-width so let me make it not zero width and then you can add it
but you're a sub, so it should be fine in your chat?
ok so im not able to replicate it anymore but it still happened so it could be that the servers had a hiccup while i made it zero-width
because it was being put in chat as a non-zero-width emote (even after refreshing), when the only emote that existed was a zero-width emote that wasnt able to be removed until i unchecked zero-width
i did check the zero-width box while uploading it so im not sure if that couldve messed it up?
i guess lot of ppl have this issue but this appears when im trying to buy subcription
when is this occuring?
are you logged into the site?
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happens
Put a captcha before even seeing the site "are you a robot"
zero width emotes on chatterino doesn't look good than twitch chrome chat, there will be an update fixing this?
๐ค ๐
hello uh, so I wanted to subscribe but my phone battery broke today (I have proof
) and the payment needed to be confirmed with a code from a text message that... I can't see, because I have no phone, but now 7tv says I'm subscribed and I'm not sure it's supposed to be that way
I had a somewhat similar issue where the cardpayment had some issue and still got subbed. It will only stay subbed for a couple of hours tho until you can try again.
You know when it's time to retry when you can't add zero width's anymore.
ok, thank you 
it's a chatterino bug, not 7tv
7tv logo on the website still has the V underneath the 7 ๐ก
yeah
LULE wtf is that name
lol
The SVG file is right here. I can fix it myself in inspect element
just need to swap the order of these paths
Don't even need to open AI again to fix it
๐ค ๐
keep getting this error when trying to upload
but i check and i see that the emote was uploaded, so idk.
old bug, when uploading takes too much time, tho it passes correctly
Not able to sign, thus not being able to use it on twitch
will likely not be fixed until we move onto our new website
comboing Twitch's sub emote with 0-width emote for some reason doesn't work correctly
the 0-width emotes are a little bit to the right
Have any of you noticed a zero width combo not lining up in someone elses chat but if you try it in your own it's perfect?
yea sometime it lines up perfectly, pixel-perfect even
a beautiful symphony of AYAYA and Fire here as an example.
but on some cases, they just misaligned
Yea can't quite tell which addon is messing it up. I'll do some field testing.
Well that was semi easy actually. I seem to have fixed mine by first disabling the 7tv extention and then in the ffz settings disable 7tv in addons(i had enabled it earlier without the extention) And finally enable 7tv extention again. edit: nope i didnt..fuk
keep getting this but unlike others it doesn't seem to have been uploaded
yeah but when I go to my profile it shows that it hasn't passed like shmov said theirs did
which emote?
I can't show you because it hasn't been uploaded yet
but it's just a gif, which I uploaded multiple others of
if size is ok ("real" size), try to re-upload it - should work
how do I tell if size is ok? I uploaded a test emote and it worked fine but I now have 2 new emotes both giving me the same error
U can check it in any file manager or probably even in Widows itself
there should be 2 different sizes
Russian, but U should understand
one is "size' , another one is called "on drive"
nah, should be fine till 2.5
U can dm me, I'll try to upload and transfer, if U want
ok I'll try
check if the emote was uploaded
dont see it
sometimes it will give this mensage but it will upload
it didnt upload
then try again
Have U succeeded yet? @silk swan
nope
I helped denie today with the same problem (U can check dialog right above Urs).
U can dm me, I'll try to upload and transfer, if U want
I've tried to upload this gif ten times now and the same error message appears at the bottom 
yep, there is a problem with some GIFs - I previously helped some users with uploads, but wasn't able to do anything with j_ames one
need Tole to check and figure it out
tho, have U checked the size is under 2.5Mb? @stoic imp
Appreciate the quick reply. Also ye the emote is just below.
k, then it's prob the same problem as one of j_ames - should wait for response
Now we wait 
Channel mod asked me to post this here if it's any help for you guys relating to the bug ๐
Hi!
Can you ask him if its still the case
and if so could he come here and tag me and i can have a look for you.

same, I haven't been able to load the dashboard since like 10 minutes ago
Can't use anything 
we back bby
real
Forwarded your message boss, but pretty sure his hands are full with bunch of projects. I'll try to ask him later once I'm done with stream ๐
Service messages and live emotes update/reload are still bugged.
From 5 emotes which were added to a channel within 5min, 3 messages weren't shown up and the appropriate emotes appeared in the emote menu only after f5.
Im experiencing a lot the problem, that when i use normal Emotes from Twitch, the whole message won't be displayed
I even uninstalled 7tv refreshed page and then i've seen all messages/emotes
Could you explain more?
Like give some prints
Also maybe try to replicate it so that we can tell why is it happening?
well its simple. When someone send a message for example with
the message won't appear. Its just the name with : and then nothing. When I uninstalled I was able to read it, then I installed 7tv again and same happend again
unfortunately I'm not able so send a screenshot
both
try uninstalling bttv and installing 7tv
WHAT FACE
wait, can i see BTTV emotes with 7tv?
U can with FFZ Add-On
oh i thought only from the platform where they are enabled
FFZ has addons you can enable to show BTTV and 7TV emotes
along with some other addons
ok
I haven't used BTTV in forever, but I know it allows you to see FFZ's emotes at least
So i uninstalled BTTV same issue
try unninstalling ffz
Same issue

its from 7tv
?

BTTV show them all
ffz can show all 3 extensions
hm
ffz addon update wen?
@humble pelican
enable the addon in settings
excuse me but idk where to do that
uh
thats a pepega clap moment
team... pepeja
:ICANT:
tyvm everyone
:DOCING:
When the EventAPI v2 is finished

you dont need to wait for that, v2 is just mutable sessions which arent needed for extensions
eventapi v2 is mostly for the new website
@wise violet
@still mason
dont feels weird man me, you do it
sry, I apologize
1.5days left?
are u unbanned tomorrow?
Twitch letting abusers abuse abusees. FeelsWeirdChampMan
imagine getting banned before arcadum
Can you get like... a restraining order against someone?
imagine getting banned for cum in 2021
Cum is literally some people's entire sexual identity.
How can Twitch participate in such discrimination?
I keep getting {"isTrusted":true} when trying to upload this 1.65mb gif
anal toe fix ur server omega lol @humble pelican
Is it a cloudflare thing? 
some people are getting CORS errors
?
was mentioned this: #bugs-and-stuff message
but afaik Tole did fix on that (or smth connected)
api.7tv.app and 7tv.app are two different domains in the eyes of cors @humble pelican
you do actually need headers for that afaik
it's only happening to some users, emotes are still being uploaded
so it's not that
i can upload emotes fine
emm... nope
I posted in #general
I can't upload their emotes as well
And either me and the persons that had problems could upload other emotes
@humble pelican try uploading this image #bugs-and-stuff message
alright i'll write the new emote processing service tonight
fix this once and for all
webp support will be back as well
tyvm
when it will be done, I will ping those persons who had problems - have almost all of 'em in dms
poggers
If GIF was a murderable person, I would murder it in cold blood with zero remorse.
wut?
It's not like Twitch is using Flash anymore
there was a report on it, sec
People still use that extension?
twitch player on firefox is broken with BTTV emotes
why not? its better than default in any way imaginable
{"isTrusted":true}
how to fix
after reading looks like this may be fixed later? I will be waiting patiently ๐
yea it's almost a running joke at this point. You may be able to upload 5 other emotes but not that specific one because it doesent like the format framerate or whatever it may be.
help please
im getting the trusted = true error for emote upload
idk if Tole has finished with that yet or not, but since you just got this error - I guess he hasn't

ok. i didn't realize it was being worked on. i'll just try again later. or wait til update on it.
my card keeps on declining to try to sub, is there any way to fix this?
Discover cards won't work as these are only available in the UK, and the company is based in France
perhaps try paypal alternatively
I had a discover card in the USA
Discover cards are available in a lot of Eastern European countries too 
well, eastern europe is quite different from western europe 
but tl;dr stripe doesn't support discover cards for merchants outside the UK
Thats what indiegogo says but when you back something with Discover card it works

not sure what they are using
L 
is fixed
is fixed
uploading emotes is fixed for bigger emotes/
can anyone tell me why is the second PepegaPhone is shrunken down if overlayed with 0 width emote?
cuz it's wide?
do you use FFZ or 7tv as standalone?
For some reason none of my BTTV/FFZ emotes work when I pop out my chat when the 7TV extension is enabled in Chrome. Is there a workaround for this?
I've noticed that sometimes TAB completion scuffs out and it prioritizes Twitch emotes over the custom 7tv/bttv/ffz ones
I would just disable the autocompletion in 7TV settings and that fixes it for me at least. That does disable autotabbing 7tv emotes tho
yeah that kinda defeats the purpose of tabbing tho
@humble pelican hi , can i tell my issue in dm?
sure
Getting timed out removes the 7TV emotes button from the page until refresh
^Can confirm on firefox.
Also doesent recover if i toggle the 7tv addon so yea it really needs the page refreshed. edit: it did load after a minute after toggling a few times.
@chilly flare @stoic imp @silk swan @dire edge
Hey, guys. Ur problem with "{"isTrusted":true}" error on emotes uploading should be solved now, thx to Troy. U can try to re-upload them now.
@silk swanspecifically Ur emote "RIPBOZO" was uploaded and transferred to U, since we talked in dm previously.
uploads worked. everything is good. thank you 
works great! :)
7tv emotes aren't working in "alternate player chat" and arent in the emote menu at all. The 7tv badge isn't there either. I found some days ago that constant refreshing may make them appear in the emote menu and work in chat by chance, but now that doesnt even work anymore. Also, 7tv badge and 7tv emotes don't show up in "twitch multistream chat" extension. Even though it uses the exact same chat from the twitch website. They were there in multistream about 2 days ago, but now completely gone including the 7tv emote menu button. even after trying the constant refresh trick. Any fix or workaround would be greatly appreciated and needed, thank you! Bttv and FFZ appear as normal in the "alternate player" emote menu and "Twitch Multistream Extension" emote menu. Thanks again!
these are extensions, which run in their own context.
as such no other extension can exist there unless it specifically adds itself
I don't actually know how BTTV/FFZ manage to run there, it's not supposed to be possible and I can't find any docs on how to do it
Could the Alternate Player extension have implemented BTTV and FFZ support on its own?
Could it be something with FFZ emote menu, because that is what i am currently using? I'm nowhere near as savvy as you guys with this stuff. I also have 7TV BTTV enabled in FFZ. Could that be why sometimes 7tv would work in those spaces?
maybe thats why sometimes it would appear after constant refresh?
I think the author of alternate player added support for bttv/ffz himself
it doesn't appear to be possible otherwise
Squashed 7TV emote depending on window size
for example again
It's the one at the top right
this happened to me yesterday 
Thats known for a while and wth do you even need that one on the top for.
yeah happens to me too, in chrome and firefox
why does date created sort by oldest?
Click the little arrow next to "Sorting"
ohh
bottom emotes hides uppers a bit
Strange bug that dosn't really cause any problems
@humble pelican
this is that bug I tried to describe to you before, but I don't really think you understood
happens very consistently for me whenever the notifications are closed
Just found out that its not when its closed, if you move the mouse outside the notifications popup box it happens
Browsing "back" to the emote page won't remember your selections, like "zero-width only" and such. They'll still be checked, but the emote page is not respecting disrespecting their status.
The notifications box dosnt have to be empty, and it only happens with zero-width emotes
And it has to be your own emote
this is why
7tv badge doesn't work if zoomed in (windows, firefox idk if this matters)
non integer zoom factors dansgame
Works fine for me
sometimes the addon like doesnt load? and i cant see any of the emotes
HUGE bug over here^^ the firefox releases link doesent point to https://github.com/SevenTV/SevenTV/releases this needs a fix immediately defcon1 prio alert.
@humble pelican 
noticed this when using Grekler PETPET in chatterino. Could be happening with all zero-widths?
I beleive that is because of the weird way chatterino handles zerowidths
the emote is being wrapped, and then offset
resulting in it being offset off screen on the second line
global emotes are not working, is this a bug or do I need to do something else besides uninstall and install again?
yeah, had the same issue today, if U are talking about twitch
for me it occasionally ended after some f5s
Works for me im using 7tv and ffz
I have 7TV as well
yeah, not sure if it had something to to with my issue
but yeah, I am having an global emote issue
on the 7tv extension?
can you describe which browser, which extensions used, etc
and in what ways they don't work
like i people who use the chat on screen they are working, but none are listed for me and wont show up, but his emotes that be made in bttv work for me and i see them just not the gobal ones
firefox
Firefox, oh...
what extensions do you have?
so 7tv channel emotes work but not globals?
everything for 7TV works but not the globol ones for BTTV
should fix itself after a refresh
how do I refresh it
F5
refresh the page
sometimes bttv or ffz fail to send back a response (often due to rate limits)
this will be fixed in 2.0.0
as the other third party emotes are now being requested from the browser instead of proxied through 7tv
@twin pawn oh, I thought U understood what I meant by "some f5s" - should say "refreshes" probably 
sorry I am a tech guy, but I was not sure if it was something in the program and not in the browser its self
@humble pelican analtoe while in ur big screen when you do miniplayer its black screen
shut yer mouth big zi
thats for the stage test you need to report it in #stage-discussion @pine granite
thanks for advice
yruoe whale cum
Whenever I use popout chat with the 7TV extension enabled, it only shows the global emotes for 7TV, BTTV, and FFZ for me. Is there any workaround for this?
do you mean that twitch globals dont work?
Those work as well, but none of the emotes that ive enabled for my channel through 7TV, BTTV, or FFZ show up
Funny thing is when I do, it briefly shows the emotes as if their enabled, but as soon as i click on the chat box to type they all turn into plain text
I'll record it when i hop on my computer
Which extensions and which browser?
Try that ya
Okay I'll try that
Is that a pop out of the twitch dashboard maybe try pop out of the regular chat
Oh yea, can confirm happens for me too on ff. Nice find! They do however show up in the ffz emote menu if you wanna do ffz only or ffz and 7tv extentions. yea scratch that it just worked aswell :S
yeah thats probably something to do with the dank stuff anatole does to get the current channel
the url is different
Okay that seemed to have fixed it. When I pop it out from my channel page it works fine, but when I do it from the Creator dashboard it doesnt work
Fascinating
why would you get the channel from the url
cuz thats the way to do it?
don't think theres that in popout but i'll look
@humble pelican 
isn't that like everything you need?
thats on instances of ChatController which I'm pretty sure you already have access to
yeah i guess i can do like i do with youtube
I almost didn't catch that my auth token was in there twice
I only erased one of them
kek
also despite it being next to my auth token
that is the chat your in
not your own
I just screenshotted it on mine
what component is this?
ChatController
TrollDespair they erased him from the life stream
floppaDespair
authToken = channelID ๐ค
oh, I misunderstood the ss
night copied the discord emote menu almost to a T
idk if its hard but probably move the 7tv one into that too
@queen oar replace BTTV with FFZ for now
if you use all three together 7tv emotes should be in that menu too

since ffz injects our addon emotes into bttvs menu for us
nah melon im pretty sure bttv just overrode ffz's menu
quite aggressive
@humble pelican ffz injects its own emotes into there
unless they changed how it works
no like, bttv just overrode the entire thing
it's not ffz's menu anymore it's just bttv's
it used to
but bttv just replaced the entire menu
yeah thats what i mean but they havent updated for it yet
thats what I was saying, unless its changed



Night made the discord one didnt copy it
I mean I don't think he designed it 
everyone at discord does every job
also thats not how it works
if you make something while working for a company
its theirs not yours
when i go to streamers channel and then to another, the 1st streamers 7tv emotes are still shown
it fucks with my autofill tab and im looking like a normie with wrong emotes 
when i get timed out in a channel suddenly i cant tab to 7tv emotes
Because youโre timed out 
no i mean after the timeout ends
here lemme record rq
it cut off but it said no matches
after i reload i can tab again
another seperate issue is when i add an emote with an alias i cant add it back with its original name
To reset an alias you need to leave the alias thing completly empty
the rename option is grayed
using a different name lets me change it
aight
Soon :Copesen:
you know anything about the issue i had with tabbing 7tv emotes or nah
thats aight 
Nime ๐
that not a bug. its cuz the emote name is already "Madge" and you are trying to set alias to "Madge" which it's not going to let you do, cuz it wont do anything
no i had set it to something else. it wont let me reset it. when i remove and readd it it has the same alias
yea to reset alias, you just leave the name part blank.
The rename part was greyed out
Oh so delete the text?
yes exactly
I see

idk if there's a tutorial, or if were just supposed to know how it works. but i didnt get it right away the first time either.
it'll be fixed in the new website

until 
until the end of the month obviously, but yeah that needs to be fixed
Every time I enable the 7tv plugin on chrome, when I get @ ed nothing happens
idk if this is a bug but I cant find a setting to turn it back
Is it normal for emotes to not work on VODs? Or is something not working correctly
Is this a 7tv or ffz bug? it keeps typing mention twice everytime i use it
Could you go into more detail? Getting the ffz addon doesnt seem to do anything for me
Why do I have no highlight when I get pinged in twitch chat?
yeah, known thing, rarely occurs - just refresh, it's by 7TV
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just wait a bit and check if the emote is on your profile
that happens when an emote is taking too long to upload
it should show up eventually
no, while the other emote uploaded instantly with no error
i got the same error but it never showed up on my profile
what image did u try @chilly flare
weeb shit
thnaks
TAB completion has priority over bttv emotes and sometimes it doesnt even show them when tabbing
What i've found to work is to disable bttv and 7tv's tab completion and then just use ffz's
As it includes all 3
with 7tv installed or enabled in ffz?
With it installed and as an addon
I also use the inline tab completion addon from ffz, unsure if its needed for all 3 to work
how do i disable tab completion for bttv
See if it work's without disabling it otherwise you might have to remove the extention and then use the ffz addon
well see if I do that and disable 7tv tab completion, FFZ doesnt complete it for me even tho its also an addon
it dosn't complete the bttv emotes?
can't, have to disable bttv altogether - which is recommended if you use 7TV since bttv provides no compatibility whatsoever
the 7tv emotes
bttv currently has no regard for other extensions (they even overrode ffz's menu without notice) so i don't recommend using that extension
bttv be like: if you go so far as to just mention any other extension were gonna ban you 
thank you โค๏ธ
and @marble star โค๏ธ
๐

Okay so what I did was I tried the inline tab completion and now it seems to be working with "Auto-Completion" disabled for 7tv.
any idea why 7tv doesnt show where some twitch emotes are from?
Same reason the other extensions and other third party programs don't either
It's part of an undocumented twitch api
ooh
dam thats kind of annoyin. cuz bttv doesnt have a custom popup for native twitch emotes
is there a way for 7tv to do what bttv does for twitch emotes?
you can have bots that find the source channel in your chat
FFZ one shows the sources tho...
how bout in other people's chats?
if they have the bot yea, you can add it in yours then use a command w/ the emote name to find the source/other data
i havent used ffz. im just wondering if theres a way to keep the vanilla twitch popup for twitch emotes only -- like bttv
ok, just a tip
wait does ffz show 7tv emotes?
7TV integrates with ffz if you have both installed yes
Does anyone else get blank messages sometimes?
For example, people typing ":D" show as blank in chat for me
is there a way to fix the 2 notifications that won't go away 
it shouldn't be there for long. usually takes a minute to disappear
they've been stuck there for like a month 
browser force refresh or log in & out
other than that, anatole will have to come in

september

i logged in logged out same thing
if i remember correctly it happened when i submitted like 50 emotes
and they were all getting approved
so i'd have to clear them over and over
yeah mine are still there too when impersonating
Nothing will help U, itโs Ur lucky number on 7tv now

Whenever I get timed out the entire plugin just kinda turns off
You have to refresh and its back
why tf do we have two lulws 
known issue also not a 7tv issue
im assuming its related to zerowidth overlaping on names?
2/7.3.5 will fix it
update to the double lulws: theres two monkaLaughs too 
But the LULWs are different

Add Blindge
self promotion yet again
Bruh why is my twitch pfp not loadin
That glitch has Been arround for ever
Is there a fix
7tv
click on Ur pfp/nickname in top right?
on any page - Log out/Sign In
Bruh
U have to add that to mobile
I'm trying
Meh
I'm just going to clear cookies
And log again
It's easier just to switch to Desktop version for a min
Aha
Yep I did and it worked
Pagman
Man
The only problem I have is that all twitch mobile clients dosent seem to support 0 width emotes
Guess I have to use imaginary
wdym, native twitch app doesn't support any 3rd party emotes
if U meant 3rd party clients (non-native) - Chatsen supports all kinds
anyone know why all extensions use different emote pixel/resolution heights in chat?
7tv is 20 for wide and 32 pixels for square emotes
and ffz 21.5 for wide and 28 for square emotes
and bttv 28 for square emotes
none provide an option to select a size yet, bit annoying but eh, bearable, am still curious about why there's differences though, please do tell regardless if intended or not
also, colors being limited with webp's compression is a bummer
maybe there's a way to improve the conversion somehow?
maybe by using the apng file format or another format instead, if that is possible to implement
or maybe allow gifs straight up, or is that too much of a performance impact?
idno
webp allows 16 million colors while gif allows 256
altho you cant profit from webp's advantages as a creator at the moment since it's not yet possible to upload webp directly
apng is garbage and so is gif
how is apng garbage? am asking as a complete novice, only read a guide that recommended it as a better option than gif for people using it for steam profile artworks to achieve better quality compared to using gif, so it's probably the file size still being huge/performance, right?
and why are the square 7tv emotes 32x32 instead of 28x28, and the wider emotes Nx20 pixels in dimensions?
an option to set a size would be kinda neat tbh but using the same size as the other projects would maybe also already help with combining emotes and for the look and such
apng is not meant to be used on the web or in any application. It's just an uncompressed image animation format
it produces significantly larger file sizes than gif, because it's nothing more than rapidly swapping full resolution frames
and it's also widely unsupported, many modern browsers still don't support it and most applications won't make the difference between a static png and apng (they share the same MIME type and file extension)
emote sizes is the same as FrankerFaceZ, 32 by 32 pixels - which is a typical standard for emotes in chats
BTTV being the outlier with significantly smaller sizes, which can make some emotes hard to read
oh? when i check using the inspect tool on chrome latest in a twitch chat, the sizes are different
ffz is also 28 here for square emotes
FFZ has more sizing settings iirc. they let users scale them down with more granular control. but it can get up to 32x32
iirc i never changed that so default seems to be 28 at least on ffz
with 7TV we opted to automate the process, letting users upload a single image of any size and it gets resized automatically with correct aspect ratio
dont think they do have an option for emote size, only font and timestamp size now that i am looking for it (ffz still)
yeah FFZ is definitely 32px, anytime i see a 7TV emote paired with FFZ the sizes match up
i think only twitch sub emotes and bttv are 28px. but i think that's a bit restrictive
wut
not for me
left is 7tv, right is ffz
there might still be an option to scale down the canvas at some point, altho for the time being what you can do is make the canvas of your emote larger before uploading, the resizer will keep the aspect ratio intact
ooh it might be because i messed with the timestamp size in ffz, could be, lemme check
(downside being you'll have a bit of an invisible forcefield around it, there'll be a border of transparent pixels)
works both ways though, ive seen people make the height larger to get the width below 32px for emotes like ppL
Og emotes like Pog are 28x28 but nowadays the default is 32x32
nope, that wasn't it
strange that it's different here
ah that would make sense yeah
28x22
that what I meant when we talked previously - maybe the current state of FFZ is 32x32 by default but I like those versions of ***eg emotes and they aren't just "wider", they smaller
transparent canvas help - the best and simple solution, so U can easy manipulate emotes sizes in 7TV
maybe there's a way to compress those insanely large apng files to on par size with webp, while still retaining the better color accuracy, and the same if not better than webp image/frame quality somehow
this is the steam guide where i first read about apng being a thing, the guide includes a way and an example for how to compress the file size by ~ 3x:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2216769769
but i'm guessing that even compressed like this, the difference and lack of current support for the format means that it's not a viable enough option even when compressed, isn't it
apologies for wasting your time if so
also i just checked a ton of ffz emotes and their height dimensions in chat are all over the place just like eternal_pestilence seems to have talked about previously lol
18.75 on widepeepoHappy
20 monkaEyes
22 peepoLove, WICKED
28 most of the classic emotes like gachiGASM, Pog and such
31 FeelsStrongMan, YEP
32 monkaStop
seems like a bad idea to have the height change like this, might mess with readability, not sure
also, twitch sub emotes use 28x28, even ffz lists it in their design guidelines:
yes FFZ has had changes to their sizing over time, but i don't want to have a ton of variably sized emotes that don't match up
then you end up like twitch where they have completely broken sizes, and "1x" is actually a tiny version while "1.5x" is the correct one
apng is just not for this. in fact the only use apng has is to retain full quality on animated images, that's all there is to it. it's good as long as it's not served over the internet
so 28x28 emotes are still possible to create on ffz, in case one wants to be able to create an emote that matches up with other 28x28 emotes no matter to which side of the emote or when using zero-width emotes on top? they won't get scaled down to 32x32 in chat instead? or will they now, with how ffz scales things currently?
Hmm today I will ask the developer to change his whole image format that hes been working on for months

yeah, as Tole mentioned, there is a little downside
(downside being you'll have a bit of an invisible forcefield around it, there'll be a border of transparent pixels)
so it's harder to combine/fit emotes of different sizes/proportions when they have transparent boarders (and especially different sized transparent boarders)
but the cons are greater - normalized/standardized system of emotes sizes
hey mr analtoe could you please create a whole new type of file just for 7tv? if would be litty af lole
thus it's better to keep it standardized and just artificially resized it with canvas if U want to keep some "old fashion" look of some emotes from ffz/bttv
color accurate + performant emotes with decent scaling options sounds good mkay? 
16M colors for WebP
webp is just apng but 16.7M times better
supports full colors and has an alpha channel like png, but doesn't have a ridiculous file size


Today I learned that APNG only supported 1 color
Unpopular opinion: I also prefer the aesthetics of 28x28 emotes in a lot of cases (but not every case)
It's not always bigger = better
Sometimes it's just about proportions
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Cannot open my own profile on 7tv website, whenever I click on it it does nothing
try refreshing the site has just been updated
Just reporting an "OCD" issue... the True Theatre button on Youtube isn't vertically centered... :/
https://i.imgur.com/WqU2rXP.png
Thanks! working now
Looks good on my end
weird. i refreshed mine to make sure. still it's the only button misaligned ๐ฆ
Yea its weird happened to me as well during testing but its random
this part however does look unaligned tho, the menu doesn't dissapear, this is in 7tv theater mode
OK, just as a further test... I disabled ALL my other Chrome Extensions (except 7TV) and still misaligned. shrugs
(As a side note, when I go into Full Screen mode, the 7TV button IS aligned, and when I exit Full Screen it goes back to misaligned)
The true theater mode button is misaligned for me as well, and I believe it is because YouTube is slowly pushing out a slightly more spaced out version of their player.
Hello, i have a problem linking my youtube account, when i type my account's username it says "Couldn't find the account" even if i copy paste it, my username on youtube is"Agent_059" is it because of the underscore?
yeh OK Incognito worked for me too. Not the best solution tho /s
You have to paste the numbers and letters not the username.
if i select emotes directly from the emote menu it will show as 0 letters
also i cant send prob because it passed the 200 letters limit
nah i erased an emote now it shows the count
Hi, i just heard 7tv has youtube support, and i just logged in and tried to link my yt channel and it says this. so weird. i haven't linked my youtube anywhere yet.
send me the ID? i'll check which account it's bound to
okie 1 sec
mentioned lot on tests, U need to push any action in chat bar (the simplest is Space) - it's how YT chat is bad
here you go - UCdZBnUb7m8Pd_wUTDNqUu3Q
this user currently is bound to this YT channel https://7tv.app/users/rkrb3112
yeah, he'll need to manually go to https://7tv.app/link-youtube and link his own channel instead
no easy unlink button yet
ohh got it~ thank you 
let me see if there are any youtube streamers with 7tv yet

there's some russian minecraft streamer
so i made my mod link to his channel and i linked to mine from my side, so it takes a while to synchronize? also for ffz as ffz doesnt have yt support yet, at first i didnt see my emotes, but now i can see ffz emotes i've added.?
7tv adds support for ffz emotes yes
gratz on the release
now for the bugs, trying to input emotes from the emote menu isn't working for me
you need to add a space at after you click the emote
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I see, thanks
hi, i had some problem
i suppose to add my friend youtube channel on 7tv but instead i added it on mine. anyone can help ? there is no youtube account removal button or something
You can just add your friends and it will get rid of yours
i wish i could
thanks
Links in chat are unavailable with activated 7TV extension. They become just a plain text @humble pelican
probably everyone realized this but you cant post emotes that you clicked on from the 7tv emote menu on YT
You have to add a space after the emote
yeah it looks like its being shown visually but not actually set in the input value until you manually add a change lol
yeah, it was caught during the test period - the problem is with YT chat and how it works - so for now U should simply make any action in chat box after U inputted emote/emotes
I think 7tv might be conflicting with emotesly
You can now remove it. A new era has come.
Idk if removing it is the right choice rn
From what i've figured out with my little to no knowledge about programming, emotsly works like gte
hmm
Maybe suggest for 7tv to support emotesly?
I actually haven't ever use it, so idk. I used GTE, but if it's conflicting with 7TV, then I prefer to not see emotes in comments section.
I will take stable 7TV work over it.
Yeah I actually would recommend getting it to work because Emotesly provides a lot of popular emotes globally so we won't see what a majority of what YT is using already.
Yeae thats the main reason i see for not removing emotesly as not many big streamers will take on 7tv specially If both extensions conflit
unfortunately all their emotes are globals
they have no channel emote functionality
i would add support for emotesly if they had channel-bound emotes, but makes no sense to just add a million extra globals
actually they also have twitch globals
baiting twitch lawyers here

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why it doesn't work for me and it works on the twitch site?
where is this?
the print i mean
obs
oh

if U use SLOBS it will surely helps, if OBS - uhh... gl
what if i have the usual obs?
then U try to do the same, but as I said "gl" - some ppl were unsuccessful with that
alternative way is Chatterino crop + OBS window capture
Not able to click on links on Youtube chat when 7tv is enabled. (It is not highlighting as an HTML instead just text)
yeah, known bug, hope fix will come soon

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interesting 
if i watch a video that was a premiere, i cant use the true theater mode
I think it's supposed to work for the premiere, but maybe not premiere replays. Not sure, could be a bug 
hey i think i found a bug/un expected issue. so my viewers have issue with the addon . because they're PCs/Youtube is in persian(in persian and other arabic languages, the chat placement is on the left ) and the emote list doesnt show and is out of the screen
i didn't know a better way to describe this XD
oh jesus this didn't even come to mind
XD

oof
well , to be fair your demograph isn't the middle easterns , for a lot of reasons
thanks for letting me know about this though
i think i'll rework how the emote menu spawns, so that it's overlayed instead of embedded in the frame
does this happen to like, chinese or so too? 
chinese is LTR i think, but i guess arabic and whatnot are affected
i dont think so , as far as i know chinese and other asian languages are still from left to right
i may be stupid tho 
thank you
Arabic and hebrew are the most prominent i guess
is it a new thing that you cant edit privated emote on a channel as an editor?
or is it just a bug?
Am I the only one who is having a problem with mention sound not working
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How fix 
Havent had those either since i uninstalled bttv

that happens to me sometimes when I switch audio source, a simple restart fixes it
not saying there isn't some underlying issue related to that, but that's my experience
I did that so many times and i run it with administrator still no sound 
Never seen this during testing
why amn't I surprised? Firefox 
Have not seen that either . Guessing it's a conflict with another extension that user has
chances are gif is too big? thats usually the issue when I get that error
try using ezgif or a similar site to compress it
Same things happening for me

@grand nova wbu?
seems like the 1MB limit is back, i told troy to look at this when he gets up
apparently the configuration magically reverts after a while
so it has to be changed again
File size says 15 KB and wont let me upload
imagine it will become 15KB permanently
yep

Still dont know what you meant by "imagine it will become 15kb permanently"
Yo, I have a second twitch account I logged into 7TV with to try and purchase the sub on both to support and to have the sub badge on it, but it says I'm already subbed when I log on to it, is that normal?
It sounds like your 7tv is still logged into the first account. You could try clearing 7tv site cookies, that might fix it so it's actually logged into the 2nd account
if that doesn't work I'm just an idiot I guess
i could guess its something related to the payment method but also i dont think that makes sense
hmm
Ok clearing cache fixed it, I can sub now

Should have tried that first I'm dumb af
@nocturne crater

nah it wasnt that obvious i guess
i would also not have thought of that at first
anyways 2 time sub
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When I popout the youtube chat emotes doesn't work for me ๐
known issue, popout isn't working atm.
it's actually trying to load emotes for your own channel, so it's getting the wrong ID somehow
firefox is doing some weird stuff for some users idk
must be some setting specific to firefox
i couldn't reproduce this
(notice how the youtube control bar is taller than it should be there)
im on chrome
firefox 
huh well im not sure then, but i'll fix how the button positions itself so it scales properly with whatever setting
i like it atleast

its just that everything related to 7tv is off-placed
i would love if you guys could fix the autospacing issue
i use firefox developer edition
if this feels a browser issue which i think not
cant click it
too many subs that page died

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