#đŸŁïž±classic-role-ideas

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whole widget
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yeah that's definitely too strong

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if you assume there's 3 ducks along with Peacock going around killing, the target could die too easily

drifting light
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And if you mark the last duck, then it becomes quite literally impossible for geese to win unless they speedrun tasks

narrow smelt
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Maybe if the peacock finishes there tasks and that person gets voted out? Or just the last part

drifting light
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I'm pretty sure that's a role very similar to modded among us

calm hare
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Executioner

narrow smelt
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How? That's the second part

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Second time

void prism
narrow smelt
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Same I also came up with a guy that can rewind time

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Which was modded among us too

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Maybe a duck could be named mayor. Faction goose. Description: If next to a player can "bribe" them and press the button again to be able to control and kill with them for a couple of seconds only once per 2 rounds.

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Faction duck I meant

lavish craterBOT
void prism
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Maybe its win condition is to kill everyone by marking them one by one and only being able to kill those with the effect before the effect wares off

buoyant crow
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So pretty much the same win condition as pigeon

viral dove
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Not quite a pigeon knockoff. Only one person gets marked per round, and it doesn't take effect until after the meeting. That does make the play quite slow, and near impossible to win in some cases, but dodo also can't win if a meeting isn't called, so...

void prism
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im gonna backtrack on the killing, i dont want it to be like a falcon where it wins by killing. i just wanna know if the idea would work or not

whole widget
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well you'd need to go either the killing route or the marking everyone route

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it would still need a win condition

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assuming you don't change it from your original idea too much

void prism
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True. it could be an imposter role instead

drifting light
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So kind of like Salem's Hex Master?

void prism
void prism
visual juniper
drifting light
visual juniper
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And if you want some sort of Poisoner ehh Demolitionist is closest you can get

void prism
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Ok ok, heres my last take on this. Instead of calling it Peacock, its the Illusionist and its a Duck. It chooses one player of their choosing to be “marked.” Then after a meeting is done the marked player starts seeing the other players with different skins (like if the player was named Jim chose red, they be Sam and blue). It will play an effect to let that player know they’re marked after the meeting, like having a haze of yellow around the screen. The only way to see normal again is to call a meeting or doing a certain number of tasks/fake tasks. The illusionist knows if the player is still under they’re spell by having a little icon next to their name until they get rid of it. Hows this?

buoyant crow
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An idea for classic rejects
Medium v1

queen vessel
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Penguin role be : neutrailty , (medium) (belong Pelican , dove
Penguin skill : penguin freezes everybody, if you freezed by penguin, you freeze in a few seconds, but you can't move or your skills untill voting time! And when it's time to voting time? The ices pops! And die, like pelican. And only 4 people can freeze in one round.

Penguin time : penguin time is like Pelican time if there are people 3 left, including penguin. Then it's penguin time, if it's penguin time? All the terrain and objects are frozen, giving them confuse, except for penguins.

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I hope the penguin will be realease

lavish craterBOT
faint goblet
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It’s too weak, it should also be able to see through walls and with lights off

sweet bronze
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Role:Security goose
Ability:Can see to any room desired for 5 seconds the ability has a 60 second cooldown(1 minute)

faint goblet
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Thing is, that only works on those maps because there’s a light that turns on on the cameras so people know they’re being watched. Otherwise it could harm the fun of thinking you got away with a kill and could make someone seem like the dead goose talks IRL to the security goose and raises questions of cheating, (and if someone were cheating could just claim the role)

void prism
sonic prism
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%role Phantasm(Duck): You can freely walk through locked doors.
The effect of the role is very strong as a way to freely get around the map like no other player and being able to sneak up on unsuspecting players, but is limited by the niche of needing to have the door sabotage unlocked and activated. Another danger is that you can't see through the doors until you walk through the door, so having a general idea where the crowds are located is key.

drifting light
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I can see this working, honestly.

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Maybe the power works as a toggle, identical to the toggle that lets you enter/be blocked by the fog in JT

sonic prism
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Maybe, but if it has a toggle then it would lose its vent option

drifting light
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So you don't accidentally walk halfway through a door and expose yourself

whole widget
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considering how powerful phasing through doors can be, not being able to vent is a fair trade off in my opinion

drifting light
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Wouldn't be the first duck to be too fat for vents

delicate kernel
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yo

sonic prism
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That's true

calm hare
whole widget
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they tried to add a duck that could phase through walls in the past, though. But it was too troublesome to make it function correctly.

And this seems to be awfully close to that. So that may not work out

drifting light
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Well you can already pass through doors, they just have to be open. Perhaps from a coding perspective, the phantom has something that overrides the door's open/close value so it matches what it is toggled to.

sonic prism
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I thought by limiting it to only doors it wouldn't be too problematic, just because it doesn't have global free roaming which could be an issue

whole widget
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I think the main issue was that people found themselves getting stuck in the walls

While the doors would open eventually, getting stuck in a door would naturally still be a problem

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I like it as a role idea though, don't get me wrong

drifting light
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There might be bugs if you toggle phasing to off in the middle of a door, yes

sonic prism
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I would imagine if it would be implemented, it could like phasing through the fog so you would get nudged aside

delicate kernel
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i got you

drifting light
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It is possible to imement, yes. Otherwise door sabotages would get very bugged if it catches someone in the middle

whole widget
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The doors shutting are capable of pushing solid birds aside so they don't get stuck inside of them, yeah.

Being an intangible bird is a whole new thing to deal with, though. It might be possible to implement, I'm not really sure

drifting light
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The way I see it, having some coding experience is this. Normally the doors are intangible until the sabo is triggered, a false becomes a true, and doors become solid. This would pretty much be the same thing but inversed.

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It might not be coded exactly like that but that's how I see it.

whole widget
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I reckon you should ask a dev if it's at least possible, it would be a neat role to have in the game

void halo
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The devs can implement basically anything they think would be good for the game

lethal leaf
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We need more anti grouping ducks, add as soon as possible the suicide explosion duck 🙌

drifting light
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Pigeon

lethal leaf
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demo yeah, invis and id dont, ninja a little

sudden rampart
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no particular reason why we didn't do it, just got distracted i suppose

lethal leaf
sudden rampart
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you are jealous of their fame

lethal leaf
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yeah

sudden rampart
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you really just gotta convince your host to turn it off

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does no one else in your group feel the same way?

lethal leaf
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no 😆 đŸ«„

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but now I just play draft, I dont have to be busy to config. And would be really nice if the classic have the config of draft mode, for new players and lobby problems, just click a button and all the settings will be good

faint goblet
lethal leaf
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thats the idea

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but if that role have the tick tack sound wont be so nice

faint goblet
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The suicide part makes it seem kinda balanced though, otherwise you could get too many geese too easily.

buoyant crow
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Possibly the only issue would be the number of ducks/neutrals does not auto scale

lethal leaf
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but I think falcon is umbalance with less players, and dificult roles to learn being disabled with them

young trout
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Witch or Wizard role: Duck
Special kill ability, I'm thinking of two options

  1. Poisons the target like demolition though with a much shorter time to kill then the demolition. Instead of passing the bomb to someone else you spread the poison to anybody you come close with (basically touching distance) probably lasts for 5 seconds before they die. The person you poison will not know they have been poisoned, though other people around will maybe see a change in their character indicating they have been poisoned and you should probably stay away. The poison will not continue to spread, only the original person that was poisoned will spread it. Other people who are poisoned by getting "touched" will be able to tell they are poisoned. Again anybody poisoned will survive for 5 seconds before dying with a visual change indicating they have been poisoned.

In 2 short sentences: Poisons a goose that can spread to anyone around. Cannot see who is poisoned.

  1. Random potion effects will effect the target you gave a potion to. The target will not know what potion they have until the potion effect is used. These random potions can be any other kill ability that a duck has if that makes sense.
    For example, you target green and they get the party effect. Or you target grey and they get the demolition bomb. Maybe you even target red and they get the professional effect. This wouldn't work with a few since you have something like undertaker who can drag bodies or cannibal who can eat 1 body. There could be a option that the random potion can dissolve the body after some time depending on what potion it is to fill in some of the the spots that I mentioned before. I feel like the kill button should change depending on what it is, even though it might not be a killing ability.

In 2 short sentences: Uses random duck abilities as its own ability. Changes after each use.

This is probably very confusing and most likely won't get added, but it's an interesting idea I had.

gritty thistle
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Hunter duck just how vulture can see dead body's location the hunter duck can mark players and find there location

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Kinda like a tracking device

queen vessel
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Once you're frozen, you're dead

hollow plover
# queen vessel Penguin role be : neutrailty , (medium) (belong Pelican , dove Penguin skill : ...

Maybe if you modify it and set that players don't freeze on the spot, they freeze 10 seconds after the penguin uses the power. And instead of freezing up to 4 geese/ducks per round you can only freeze 2. And to unfreeze the players, the others have to kill the penguin in the round, as soon as he dies they unfreeze. If they call the meeting before they kill the penguin, the people he froze will die.

calm hare
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Roles that disable another roles’ ability aren’t as good additions as roles that add abilities
It’s better to have a role with an ability that is an addition to the game than something that is a subtraction. First, disabling another player’s ability isn’t as fun as having your own. Secondly, it’s difficult to balance the feedback of a disabling ability. Let’s say hypothetically that you could block the ability of killers. Well, since it’s a game of social deduction, we can’t actually give you feedback or you’ll be instantly able to identify killers. Therefore, you have to get a cooldown when you use the ability over everyone, kill ability or not. At that point, you as the ‘disabler’ also don’t get any feedback about whether your ability’s working as intended. Thirdly, from the perspective of the player you’ve targeted, at its best you’ve made their role unfun. At worst, they’re going to think the game is glitched.
So overall, these aren’t good roles. It’s not a matter of game balance, just that they don’t really add fun gameplay.
*** An extension of this are roles where you control another player’s actions. Really you’re just disabling their whole game at that point and the lack of agency for a player on the receiving end of that sucks.***

sonic prism
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%role Ghoul(duck): Once per round you can swap places with the closest body.
If you know where your teammates are, you could effectively travel far distances across the map and move the evidence to wherever you like. Additionally you can "place" a body in front of a player busy with a task as a way to frame them. This can be countered well because being on either end of the swap is able to catch the ghoul so it may be in the interest of the geese to wait by any bodies to see if they can catch the ghoul.

sudden rampart
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a lot of people have suggested penguins with freezing mechanics, not really thinking about how it violates the document

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if i were to try to implement a freeze mechanic in general, i probably would do it on a hypothetical map where we could play around with it

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so an example, i think someone suggested a while back

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a map with ice storms where if you were caught in the ice storm, you would get turned into a block of ice

vague carbon
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what if instead of freezing, players get slower for a bit ?

sudden rampart
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and that ducks could still kill you in the block form

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but that they wouldn't show up as dead just yet

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and that additionally there was a mechanic where players who were frozen could be broken out of, but they might be dead or not dead based on whether anyone had killed them in that form but you wouldn't know until you broke them out

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so with ALL OF THIS, i would then see it make sense to have a penguin that could play with freezing

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this would be a scenario where it wouldn't violate some of the document rules.. if there was a whole system behind it

sonic prism
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So build the role to the mechanic but not vice versa?

sudden rampart
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no not necessarily

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im just saying that if a role suggestion is some wild thing that doesnt build on existing ideas, it probably has to live in a world where the rules are different

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chonka youve been here a bit, youve probably seen a bunch of people suggest speed increase roles right?

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and that gets nixed because, that's instantly confirmable

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so the only way that could work, is in a map where it was no longer confirmable

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thats essentially it

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but people are just suggesting the broken part that violates the document, without supporting ideas

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i'll always consider a world where it would work, because i think there are interesting ideas in here

sonic prism
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Like players could just randomly go fast? But the "fast" role is able to do something more with it?

sudden rampart
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or its something that was strongly not in their own best interest to confirm

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thats the only way such additions could make sense

whole widget
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what's the difference between being eaten by Pelican and being forced to be carried around, and being frozen in a block of ice and being forced to stay in place?

vague carbon
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what if instead of freezing, players get slower for a bit or it slips forward? XD

sudden rampart
sonic prism
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"slippery" mechanics don't work well because of touch controls

vague carbon
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oh yeah didn't think about that

sonic prism
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the 4 people that use tap to move will be very upset

sudden rampart
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same issue with ideas that offer 'mirrored controls'

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we'd have to disable touch movement on mobile

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which i would consider an accessibility thing

vague carbon
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hmn i see

sudden rampart
faint goblet
sudden rampart
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they can

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depends on what it might do

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specifically in the next map, one of the roles has its own special sabotage ability

faint goblet
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Oooooh yeah. Neutral roles with sabotages, I’m sure I can come up with something for that later without havint to steal someone else’s penguin idea

whole widget
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having a Penguin on a snowy map designed for it with it's own sabotage would be awesome

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though I reckon that won't happen any time soon

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which makes sense, you'd need a whole new map for it

queen vessel
queen vessel
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And if a penguin dies, all the people who froze it are released. That's the best way

visual juniper
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Like no Duck can use it other than that specific neutral

faint goblet
placid coyote
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I Suggest A penguin that can freeze time only for other players and cooldown is 20s and it’s a duck

whole widget
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wow lol

drifting light
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If it is named after a bird that isn't a goose or a duck, then it is a neutral.

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Also a lot of suggestions involving time freezing/rewinding have been shot down.

sudden rampart
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stop freezing me bro

whole widget
viral dove
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Freezing time makes it a confirmable role, which isn't a great idea, and freezing time removes control from players, which goes against the role document.

sudden rampart
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timelord is a modded among us role as well

torn raven
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Identity thief If they switch we a duck they die(from town of us mod)

calm hare
torn raven
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Ik But they dont die when swapped with ducks

calm hare
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also

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

torn raven
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Fine! Let me throw something from the draft in my box

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No CD kill

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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recommended reading

torn raven
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Yeah maybe tmr I have an AP exam to study on

nocturne summit
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The role of the killer is unpacked. As long as there is a corpse, he can be reborn. Neutral role, the Pathfinder ticks for 10 seconds to see the tracks and the color of the one who ran through. "10 seconds in the sense that you see the traces of someone who ran 10-15 seconds ago"

lavish craterBOT
nocturne summit
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The controller role takes control of one of the players and forces them to kill. Ie using the ability to control the peace. A peaceful player has a timer during which he must kill someone. If he fails, he will die on his own. the principle is almost like that of a demoman.

minor finchBOT
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JHySGkJPkCGyTxHyU1jK7XAptCkam79RRgt_j-TFOY4/edit?usp=sharing is a good resource of things to consider when concepting role ideas happy

Google Docs
Designing Roles for Classic+ Living Document1

Herbert’s Living Document For Designing Classic+ Roles Why are you designing a role? The first question to ask is why you’re designing a role. Although wanting to introduce a new and fun role to Classic+ seems like an obvious reason, but a fair number of people are suggesting roles just as a cr...

solid echo
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Mayor/Stockpile (goose) you can stockpile votes so you can vote more than once in a meeting.

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

floral nexus
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So my idea is a goose called the suppressor. Basically how it would work is lock a duck, goose, ect from using their role for a short amount of time. Like let's say 10 seconds. Just enough to inconvenience but not enough to break things. Certain roles that happen during meetings would obviously be unaffected because that would ruin them like dodo or assassin where all the fun for them is during meetings. I think a decent cooldown would be best so it's not constantly spammed because as trolling as it sounds I think short burst usage would lead to funny instances without it being overly annoying. And it can also be used tactfully if a player so chooses to. All in all it would be fun little bit of chaos to play around with in theory

pale wraith
lavish craterBOT
narrow smelt
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So I can hought of the mutilator. They are a duck. What they do is twice per game they can make a dead body not able to be reported and unrecognizable.The body would look as if it were hot by the shuttle on nexus colony map.

sudden rampart
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thats functionally pretty identical to the cannibal

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but 2x per game

floral nexus
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Welp it was a thought and the fact it was acknowledged at all is fine by me

narrow smelt
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Yea but with this you know there is a body I guess?

sudden rampart
buoyant crow
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It does at least confirm one of the duck roles, which is sometimes really important to not reveal

narrow smelt
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Oh yea

lavish craterBOT
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@lavish stone

Looking for a group to play with?

Select your language in #lfg-language to access your language's LFG channel, and then post a code there or join a game.

calm hare
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Very odd suggestion for a role idea

steel nimbusBOT
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nom nom nom

lavish stone
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im just asking if anyone wants to play were looking for players

calm hare
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then you need to post in the appropriate channel. this is not it

lavish stone
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well im new to this discord so no reason to be rude

calm hare
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room codes get deleted if they are posted anywhere outside of the LFG channels

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and I am not being rude friend, just enforcing the server rules

lavish stone
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so which channel do i go to then

calm hare
lavish stone
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ok thanks

solid echo
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The role is called "Extra Life" if you get killed you are not dead, you become a faded version of yourself and you cant speak/type

lavish craterBOT
faint goblet
drifting light
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There is a very good reason the medium was reworked way back when.

buoyant crow
lethal leaf
lethal leaf
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Parasite duck - You can go inside a player and kill other players, and no one can see you. If your host dies, you die too (basically other player moves to you and can be sus)

gusty bone
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Poisoner (Duck)
You can use your ability to make someone move slower next round.

Once per round ability, when used will make the chosen player slower for the round after the next meeting.
Speed decrease is 0.8x
Can vent

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Quick idea I thought up, if it break’s anything let me know mechanic

calm hare
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the only issue i really see with it is that the person who gets slowed is definitely not going to be a fan

gusty bone
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Neither is the person who gets silenced in a meeting dodo

calm hare
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yes, but a meeting lasts a couple of minutes, a long round could go up to 10m or longer

gusty bone
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True true

tranquil jacinth
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Priest (goose) can rezarect one person once per game

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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"I would sooner delete GGD before adding in a kill stop/revival role" ~Shawn

tranquil jacinth
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Crow vs Vulture?

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Like dueling in dodos you have to get the other out

drifting light
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I don't think we have a crow role. Though a magpie role has been teased at some point iirc

tranquil jacinth
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Is magpie a crow ?

calm hare
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no, a magpie is a magpie

tranquil jacinth
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Ohh

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Well what will the magpie do

calm hare
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still hasn't been a definitive yes or no about it being put in. It's currently just a suggestion that may or may not make it in.

tranquil jacinth
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O ok

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I'm trying to come up with something

calm hare
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take your time, quality is always preferable to quantity. and take a few minutes to read the role document

tranquil jacinth
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Where is the role document?

calm hare
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in the link the bot provided above

floral nexus
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A duck imma lazily call the mallard and it kills whatever role kills it. It would shake things up by looking like failed sheriff kills thus putting pressure to vote the more geese dwindle and help out fellow ducks. (Especially nice if you have my luck and instantly get shot right off the bat for no reason)

drifting light
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I understand the frustration of being randomly shot by vigi or sheriff for the duckly crime of existing, but I don't think punishing the sheriff and vigi for using their power is the way to go. Especially since sheriff is already punished for being wrong.

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Also would be extremely frustrating for the falcon

floral nexus
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It's not the sole purpose of that just another role for chaos

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I honestly don't expect anything I suggest to actually stick

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But tossing ideas doesn't hurt

gusty bone
whole widget
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It's true that a lot of people like to bash people's ideas here like a bunch of angry dinosaurs

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but it's constructive criticism usually

gusty bone
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I enjoy picking apart other people’s roles, but I’d rather see someone recommend “Kill stop role #579”, than to have the channel be fully dead dodo

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And like I’ve said before, most suggestions aren’t bad, they just don’t fit into what GGD is going for. mechanic

fervent pasture
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Quail; goose
You move faster than the average goose.

Why is this good?
Because it will mean the quail can survive longer, and outrun those that are trying to kill it, as well as the bomb

lavish craterBOT
faint goblet
drifting light
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A: The role is named after a bird that is not a goose or a duck. Therefore it is a neutral.
B: The google doc uses a speedy goose role as an example of a role that will not work.

floral nexus
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Imagine a duck or neutral role that temporarily cuts off mics for a small area.

lost anchor
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I would suggest a Neutral role, the Crow: The Crow starts off as a Neutral Killing role which can vent and kill. If ejected though, the Crow comes back as ghost like figure (which is half visible to the Geese and Ducks) and the ghost Crow has to finish a certain amount of tasks. If they do, they can assign a curse to two players in the next meeting. If a Duck or Neutral isn’t ejected in that meeting, the cursed players die and the Crow automatically wins.

visual juniper
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Resurrection: no

lavish craterBOT
viral dove
floral nexus
viral dove
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Eventful, maybe. Fun for everyone? Maybe not, especially as it punishes the sheriff for getting it right. There's a lot of balancing issues to consider for good suggestions.

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Not to say that bad suggestions can't lead to good ones, but just for pure chaos, it's not that great.

floral nexus
timid prism
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Ok ok hear me out I have 2 ideas 1:this is a role that idk what to call but they may be able to swap the role they have 1 time in the game or if the person tries to kill them they get their role 2: a duck where you may choose good or evil but when evil the whole lobby gets alerted like when the celebrity dies and if good same thing

lavish craterBOT
sudden rampart
timid prism
narrow smelt
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Mine is the selfless hero. Role geese. They can kill one person and kill themselves but then call meeting and everyone is told that they were selfless hero

thick aurora
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drunkmate: it allows the duck to see the goose in random place if seen and go in kill spree , but they won’t be able to see they partners that well

timid prism
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Strong/Buff goose —-takes 2 kills to kill ‘em off but once hit 1 time there slowed down

lavish craterBOT
timid prism
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Speedy goose exactly what is sounds like they have a button with a cooldown that speeds them up for 5-10 seconds

calm hare
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please read the role document. that is an instantly confirmable role and mentioned specifically in there

timid prism
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I did read it

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Must have missed it 1 sec sorry

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Ok I think this one might be ok turtle duck like the party duck but slows the voice down and deep

calm hare
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been suggested quite a few times, i prefer Sulfur Hexafluoride Duck

timid prism
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😂 yes I agree that one’s better

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Ok ok turtle duck (different one) after calling a meeting they may choose someone in the meeting to slow for 1 minute next round

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Or a good sabotage goose that may enchant a sabotage 1 per round so that it may not work

drifting light
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Both these suggestions inhibit the abilities of another player, which in the doc is a no-no.

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Plus with the second one we already have the esper

faint goblet
visual juniper
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%role Hypnotic (Goose): This Goose role can hypnotise a bird once per game with a 35 second cool-down. When it hypnotises a bird, it give this goose role a 45% chance of being accurate of 2 possible factions they are on. This will be displayed by 2 goose heads next to their name; a red colour (Duck Faction), a grey colour (Neutral faction), or a green colour (Goose faction).

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This one I kinda went on a limb

drifting light
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Hey yea I called a meeting because red here can only be a neutral or a duck. Oh and yea, the neutral option I got for them was not dodo.

calm hare
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Free sheriff/vigilante shot

visual juniper
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It won’t show the role at all, just faction

whole widget
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Well if it shows neutral/duck heads, a sheriff/vigilante will be guaranteed to have a good shot

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even if it just shows two possible sides they could be on

buoyant crow
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As a duck I look forward to pretending I am this role to the Sheriff so I can triple kill (tell sheriff lies to make them shoot a Goose, then shoot the witness myself)

whole widget
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It's an unusual suggestion, but I think it could work just fine

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Only a one time use isn't too powerful and people could always lie about being the Hypnotic yeah

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Similar to detective in a way but with it's own spin to things

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It really only holds as much power as someone saying "This person has devil horns" and claiming to be detective, leaving it to the people to decide if it's true or not

buoyant crow
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Yeah but that usually leads to people asking what your role is, and if they use their ability on you right at the very start of the game, you could be voted out through no fault of your own

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At least with detective, you need to have actually done something

visual juniper
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But it’s kryptonite is itself, because it’s not always accurate. It has to be within that 45% that’ll be true

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Like for instance a hypnotic and a sheriff collaborate and the hypnotic hypnotises a random player and it shows it’s on either the duck faction or a neutral faction so the sheriff shoots, but then it’s a misfire because it wasn’t an accurate prediction

tough night
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Role Idea: Fanboy or Stalker
"Neutral" class
The game randomly select another player, your mission is help this player win, but you dont know their role. To do that u have one abilitie named Bug: u can hear everything the person say (maybe even know where the person is on the map, or even a button u press and a arrow appear showing the location for like 1 sec)

if the person die: (just so the class dont feel useless after that) u earn a kill button and u can try avenge ur Idol, if u missfire u die
if the person die on a meeting: u can make the person or sicrifice herself for the person or die together

if the person win, u win too

ps: the person dont know u r their fanboy/stalker

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sorry if there's any misspelld, english is my second lenguage

narrow smelt
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That is a cool role. Also no misspell

buoyant crow
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It's somewhat similar to the bodyguard / hitman / target role combo.

viral dove
tough night
tough night
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I mean...doesn't that just give you a really big downside for no reason

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well, it's technically a kill stop actually so that probably won't be allowed

visual juniper
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In a certain sense, it works but doesn’t at the same time?

whole widget
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it's like a more unique spin on bodyguard, except stronger

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since it sounds like the effect would always work anywhere

faint goblet
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Dying from that would feel like BS, it would ruin the fun of a player.

void halo
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Seems like you could choose not to protect anyone and essentially be a plain Goose

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Not really much different than being Bodyguard and staying next to your VIP. Or being Sheriff and taking a random shot. It's a choice

drifting light
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How would this work with the pelican

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Not quite what I meant. The pelican swallows the protected player and a meeting is called. If the martyr still saves them, then that exposes the pelican instantly.

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I don't see the point of punishing someone just for using their power like that.

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Before someone mentions canadian, that can be avoided by being observant. Or if you kill them before they claim then you can talk your way out of it.

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The pelican.

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The pelican being op is debatable, but I'd rather not get into that. I'm just looking at the what-ifs and the possible frustrations it might bring.

faint goblet
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Ah, I misunderstood. I thought the role was about choosing a victim to take your place if you die, not sacrificing yourself.

buoyant crow
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I feel like it's pointless in a meeting, assassin will just shoot their target again the next round

sonic prism
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%role Loner(Goose) You can see farther when no players are in your vision radius.
More accurately, the vision passively extends when there are no visible players in the "extended" radius, added the vision radius is around between a hiding snoop and birdwatcher. The passive gets disabled while lights are out.
Funnily enough while the loner is able to see much farther, it only works while nobody is there, limiting the most powerful part of higher vision. Although you cannot see players, having a lower vision gives you a sort of sense to know if players are nearby.

lethal leaf
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**Teleporter Duck ** - You can teleport 3 bodies per game. (The body is teleported to a random closer room, like: (mothergoose) if you killed in security, the body only go to eletrical, reactor, medical or cafeteria, the same to hallways)

cerulean thicket
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seagull (neutral) with this role you can temporarily steal the role of a player if you try and steal the role of a duck you will die and be auto reported kinda like the Canadian but if you steal the role of another neutral you will permanently steal there role but the player you stole it from will die and auto report and like the pigeon itll make a mine sound or what evr the devs what it to make

lavish craterBOT
fervent pasture
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Spree killer duck it start with 20 sec and it cooldown decrease as it every kill and it reset every meeting and it can vent

gusty bone
void halo
hallow basalt
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I don’t know what I would name this, but here is an idea I got from someone else. A Duck role that could eat dead bodies but has the ability to spit them out wherever they want as a way to frame someone else.

sudden rampart
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if they spit it out, wouldnt it just mean they were bad

whole widget
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sounds interesting, but VERY situational

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there's a high chance the duck will be caught spitting out the body, especially if they're supposed to plant it close to someone to frame them

drowsy sleet
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🔼Seer [Goose]
⭐⭐

  • Once per game you can reveal the potential intentions of two birds.

  • During walk-around, you get a button with an average cooldown that can reveal players faction/team, but it won’t reveal the info until two players are targeted by the seer and when a meeting is called. (This ability will reset if a meeting is called and there are not two targeted players)

  • When the seer has all info ready for the meeting, if at least one of the chosen players is a duck, the duck gets an arrow pointed towards the seer and a notification informing the seers info against the duck.

  • Depending on the birds faction the seer sees one of the following during a meeting:

  • At least one of them is a duck=🔮

  • At least one of them is a neutral=🔮

  • Both are geese=đŸ””

(Additional Notes/Potential Changes)

  • Maybe all ducks get a notification if at least one of the ducks are targeted?
  • Maybe the falcon/pelican gets a notification when targeted?
  • The seer (after using the ability), gets the info on a pop up that can be shown or hidden

(Achievements)

  • of wins achievement: “I see everything!”

(Possible on all maps)

(Basically a take on the old detective)

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Considering I loved the old detective, I naturally have a bias in favor for this

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It also doesn't seem that strong since it only has a one time use, so I don't see a problem with it

sudden rampart
gusty bone
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That’s an incredibly menacing sentence cannibal

sudden rampart
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lol

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he's gaining experience

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everyone's doomed to repeat the game but he's remembering

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LEARNING

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lol

drowsy sleet
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Yeah, judging by the long period of barely any news, this next update will be BIG

sudden rampart
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well, we had an update pretty recently

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it might not be affecting you directly, but adding the reconnection feature is a huge thing for a lot of people

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nor is it trivial

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np, we did it for YOU!

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(specifically)

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the upcoming detective change is that they'll have a slightly higher cooldown, but they can investigate anyone.. once per round

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so if the round goes long enough, you can investigate 15 other people

rigid dawn
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Anybody else know a game they can leave on mobile and jump straight in using PC and continue playing with hardly any down time?

void halo
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Only a couple

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sudden rampart
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for someone who killed that round

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i mean if it was for the whole game then you could just check everyone to see who's killed for the whole game and that would break the game

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not quite sure what you mean

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the change is what i said it was

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lol

void halo
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Not a new role. Updating how Detective works

sudden rampart
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oh, yes, if thats what you meant.. we're changing how the detective works, not adding a new detective-like role

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nah, sheriff's fine

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they dont get many complaints

fast night
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Name: Lookout
Allignment: Goose
⭐

  • You can access the cameras at any moment
lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

vapid hull
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Hi I have a role idea it is the Teacher Role it is a Duck role The perks of this role is the ability it is the Valcano Experiment it is when you can Block a room for 3 Rounds and also if someone walks in that room they Die in 10 seconds

lavish craterBOT
vapid hull
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Ohh ok

alpine ledgeBOT
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**Have you guys considered a type of trapper duck? ** We have! It's been suggested several times. The idea could work, but as it currently stands, the role would be difficult to pull off in our existing maps. Having not been made with this in mind , the hallways and spaces in the existing maps are a bit tight, allowing for these traps to zone out entire areas. Consider the bridge leading to comms in SS Goose, or the teleporter in Nexus colony, for example.

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Been suggested a few times

languid girder
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Ok I got an idea:

The Hoatzin!

The Hoatzin is a neutral character however when killed their body sends up a cloud of gas to hide their corpse so you can’t tell who it is due to cloud of gas.

You also can’t report this body due to the smell being so bad that no one can’t get close enough to make a report.

gusty bone
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Ok but how do they win? dodo

minor finchBOT
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Single Spaced suggestions are aww

lavish craterBOT
viral dove
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A neutral has to have its own means of winning, not "with geese" or "with ducks". Ideally, their special ability would be tied to their win condition.

lean pivot
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Idea: Prop duck! (Name pending)

Twice per game can place down fake, reportable bodies of a random color. If eaten, does not add to vulture win condition. (Can kill but not vent)

[If this doesnt work ill stop trying today]

viral dove
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Usually creating bodies aren't in the ducks' best interest. It's a necessity of killing the other players, but it would be better if people couldn't find random bodies lying around.

faint goblet
calm hare
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except party is very useful

buoyant crow
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All roles are useful, technican included

faint goblet
visual juniper
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It’s to derail the mee’in’ and cause chaos to make everyone skip due to randomness

calm hare
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I can't count the amount of times the party duck has completely derailed a meeting and saved me or their duck partner from getting voted

visual juniper
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It really is a good role, but I usually pass it up for something else

fast night
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i think it should be able to party multiple geese

visual juniper
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No, thats too much derailment

fast night
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dont think so

faint goblet
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I’ve never heard if it derailing a conversation, but I guess in the under 18 lobbies its a thing?

calm hare
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Nope, never played in an under 18 lobby

visual juniper
calm hare
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Derails meetings in 18+ lobbies as well

visual juniper
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ESPECIALLY if they’re memeing

calm hare
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anywho, this conversation has been derailed from talking about role ideas and should probably be moved to #đŸ’Źïž±general

fast night
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the role would be more useful cuz it would confuse more players at meetings and it would be more difficult to distinguish the voice of the players

visual juniper
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However, that’s making the role TOO powerful

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It’s the same premise as Silencer, correct? So being able to silence more than one bird sounds OP? There’s your answer, it’s OP

fast night
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i don't think tuning someone's voice is strong, they can still just talk or use the textchat

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also lets stop talking here

visual juniper
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Okay fair enough

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A fun role idea!

%role

Actor (Goose)((can only spawn if Assassin Spawns)): Pretend to be a random role that has not spawned and attempt to be assassinated as that role. If they cause the assassin to misfire, they gain the ability to kill once. ((1st version))

faint goblet
# visual juniper A fun role idea! %role Actor (Goose)((can only spawn if Assassin Spawns)): Pre...

Sounds like dodo but for assassin. (Which would suck for the geese if that were a neutral role if they lose to that cause they have no control over it. But it’s not, it’s geese so it might work)

I’m not a fan of any assassin nerfs though, it’s important otherwise geese just share roles and win in a boring way, geese can already trick assassin too easily and they only get two shots and only one a meeting so they can’t even capitalise very well with excessive sharing. It would work in classic if there’s only a few geese roles and most people are just geese.

visual juniper
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Ah fair

fast night
visual juniper
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Bodyguard/Hitman?

fast night
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i think bg should have an rw tbh

visual juniper
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I think it’s fine the way it is

fast night
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so you dont just know that one of the ducks is an hitman

faint goblet
buoyant crow
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I already play such a role, many people I know do. You just lie, no need for a fancy role

languid girder
languid girder
tranquil jacinth
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Bellbird role can call a meeting without finding a body or using a bell but I don't know if it should be always or like the vigilante and use once

lavish craterBOT
viral dove
viral dove
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The main problem is that for a lot of games, role reveal is on so the dead people know who everyone is. Communication from the dead to the living is meant to be very limited if not completely cut off, so the only way dead ducks are generally allowed to kill is through environmental sabotage.

calm hare
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I'd say a bigger problem with a "phantom killer" is that there is no way to counter it. You would just fall over dead with no clue as to why. Sure this might introduce chaos to the game, but as I see it, it would throw deduction right out the window

faint goblet
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I could see problems with geese doing things from the dead, but a duck, maybe a sabotage they can only access after death. Nothing too strong though.
Or maybe they can appear to alive people, for trolling purposes (geese can’t though)

buoyant crow
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No, all you need to do is tell somebody "I'm about to call a meeting in 3...2...1..."

Id be more inclined to allow such a role but the counter to it would be to sacrifice yourself for the meeting. In order to call the meeting, you accept the fact that you'll die afterwards (if nobody else is voted out).

Is your information worth your life?

grizzled talon
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Oh

sonic prism
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%role Grave Digger(Goose): You can see graves of players displaying how long they have been dead. Can report 1 grave per game.
The tombstones replace bodies on the grave digger's end with a little timer noting how long they were dead but does not list the player's identity.
The main point of the grave digger is to be something between medium and mortician, using its passive ability to help gather exact information for the report, but must be careful using its 1 report so not to look suspicious waiting for someone to report the body if they wasted one, or to get a clutch late game meeting in.

grizzled talon
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I have a role I made up it’s called woodpecker they can make holes in walls only the woodpecker could see and when they die everyone sees the location of the woodpeckers body...

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What do you think???

calm hare
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I think it would be a neutral role and need to have its own win condition

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other than that it is basically birdwatcher with a death notification

grizzled talon
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Let me fix some things...

calm hare
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No role has multiple powers
Venting and killing can be considered the most any role has, and that’s baked into what a vanilla duck can do. However, there won’t be any roles with several powers in Classic +. Maybe in a different game mode. Part of this is a concern of the balance of enjoyment in the game, and making a role too cool, and by comparison everything else less enjoyable. Another consideration would be that we intend for the game to be on mobile as well as pc/mac. So if your role requires several buttons, that might barely work on PC, but adding a few buttons in addition to the use/report/ability/vent buttons makes the UI very difficult to navigate on mobile.

grizzled talon
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My whole idea is gone I’ll think of something different 👍

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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Highly recommend reading that

grizzled talon
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Okay lol

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Woodpecker role/ they are neutral they win by destroying all the tasks it’s given and the tasks are reset every meeting or dead body to find them is to see them break the task? Now will it work?

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👍 or 👎

gusty bone
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That could work but has a different issue: how would you possibly tell it apart from a normal goose?inspector

thick aurora
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phaser: it allows the player to going though the wall

drifting light
grizzled talon
calm hare
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that makes it unviable, there has to be some way to counter the role

grizzled talon
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Okay then I’ll ahh

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Woodpecker role/ they are neutral they win by destroying all the tasks it’s given and the tasks are reset every meeting or dead body to find them is to see them break the task and the task would turn red once they break it and goose can fix the tasks...Now will it work?

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That better?

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What do you think? @Kitzah

calm hare
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It is definitely an interesting idea, maybe the players could undo the broken task or something.

grizzled talon
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That would be cool heart heart heart

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Herbird what do you think?

faint goblet
# grizzled talon I have a role I made up it’s called woodpecker they can make holes in walls only...

That sounds like birdwatcher except permanent where the ability is used. Which I don’t really like.

Though it would be funny if its win condition was changed to something like has completed a number of tasks based off how many the geese have completed,
So if geese aren’t doing tasks they lose. (Though the task bar may have to go into the red or something when they’re close)
It could also go out and destroy sabotages making ducks have to redo them, which would allow ducks to catch them.

(Also everyone would be all hey, how’s the task bar in red when we’ve seen PersonX do so many oh wait they’re woodpecker, and the ducks would be all we were gonna call lights but dam woodpecker broke it)

grizzled talon
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The goose can fix the tasks...

ionic arch
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I'm new to this, so I am not sure if I'm doing this right, but I had an idea for a role. It would be a neutral role called Mockingbird. It would be able to mimic the abilities of any killing role or regular goose role it interacts with but can only do one at a time with a cooldown of 30 seconds between uses. It would be It could mimic a pelican and falcon, but it would not gain the win conditions those roles have, it could just be able to eliminate players. The goal of the class is to eliminate 3-4 people but can only kill by copying the abilities of other roles, so they would have to try and deduce which people they think might have killing roles. This would affect the meta by causing players to question whether a person is the one role or if they are the mockingbird. For example, a player could witness the mockingbird eat a player like the pelican, but the players believe that they are the pelican, so the pelican goes on to continue eating players. And if they see the pelican eating someone, they could think that they are the mockingbird and players would still think the pelican is in play.

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I'm prouder of this one. It's another neutral role, Penguin. No one can resist a cute penguin. If the Penguin is in play, they can interact with another player to change that person’s role (no matter their original role) into a Puffin (this takes a second to change their role). The Puffin is not told who the Penguin is, and the Penguin selects a target for the Puffin to eliminate by the next meeting otherwise they themselves die immediately as the meeting is called. If they eliminate their target, they are free from being the Puffin and retake their old role. If the Penguin dies, they are released from being a Puffin as well. After the Puffin completes their kill or they die, the Penguin can then select another person to become the Puffin. The Penguin’s goal is to eliminate a certain number of players through the Puffin, but the Penguin itself cannot kill. This role would be fun because it adds an element of trickery. Players need to try to deduce whether a kill is because of a Puffin or a Duck. And much like with the Party Duck, Silencer, and Demolitionist, players must try and remember who they were next to that round that could have given the Puffin role.

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The penguin also can cause people to not call as many meetings, because if someone becomes a puffin, anyone who calls a meeting kills them instantly

viral dove
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Question about the mockingbird: what happens if they try to copy the ability of a non-killing role? How long does the imitation last? Does it reset every round?

ionic arch
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The Mockingbird could use the ability of the nonkilling role (such as using the ghost thing for astral) and try and convince people that they are a certain role, and it can cause people to question if someone who proves their role is actually that role. They would continue using that ability until they switch it to another after a 20 second or so cooldown. The Mockingbird would keep their abilities through meetings. (The only way the mockingbird would change abilities is by manually changing it during a round by interacting with a different person than the one their interacted with for their current ability)

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If that reasoning somehow would make it a broken monster, I can see the ability wearing off after 10 seconds or the Mocking bird could lose the ability after each meeting

visual juniper
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Interesting idea However if it can mimic the abilities of any player, what does it mean for ducks? Not only that, what about sheriff? Does it have to die if it misfires? Or does it just kill normally?

sonic prism
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%role Foreman(goose): Your mini map approximates where tasks are completed.
These tasks include any task done by a living player, real or fake and its radius of a clairvoyance but fade away from the map very quickly.
Unlike detecting sabotages, detecting tasks can give the foreman a general idea of where most players are located, especially geese because they usually have more incentives to complete tasks. If it is known that there is a foreman, non geese need to complete some fake tasks to trick the foreman into thinking they're geese since standing by a task location gives them away when the task doesn't go through.

grizzled talon
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Thanks I did some editing on it lol 😂

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Role: thinker (neutral) they have to find three peoples roles during meetings they have to correctly guess them to win if they guess wrong they have a target on there back for the ducks to find them and if they guess wrong the gooses they guessed are still alive... I’ll think of more if you think this is good so far 👍 or👎

viral dove
faint goblet
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In that case they wouldn’t do fake tasks, they’d just stand there pretending to do it.
Maybe a task can be checked to see when it was last done, so if someone was standing there not doing the task they can get caught

whole widget
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that's not a bad suggestion actually

calm hare
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I see it getting more geese out than ducks XD

sharp lynx
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I don't know if anyone has suggested something like this yet, and it's not technically a new role, but it's been on my mind for a while: Why not change the name of the lovers? I mean, they're technically on their own team as they can't win unless they're both part of the last few left alive, and they can be either two geese or a goose and duck, so why not just give them their own name like other neutral roles? I've been thinking they could be called something like turtledoves or something similar. Feel free to shoot it down if you guys want, it's just been something on my mind for a while now.

calm hare
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but they can win with the ducks or the geese, lovers is more of a modifier than an actual role imo

sharp lynx
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I guess that's true

calm hare
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neutral roles can ONLY win on their own. lovers still win with their duck/goose team if they choose not to, or don't get the lover win

sharp lynx
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That makes sense. It was just something that had been on my mind for a while

ionic arch
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If they were to change the name, I think Love Birds would also work

lethal leaf
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My "explosive duck" is very similar to warlock omg staring

drifting light
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I wonder what happens when every players gots to the locust room? Would be funny if there was some kind of Tie screen for if everyone dies like that.

drifting light
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I know mortician was from this channel, and I think warlock was inspired by a few ideas here that didn't quite make it.

lethal leaf
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yes, I sugested mortician

viral dove
calm hare
lethal leaf
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alright đŸ« 

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visual juniper
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I ‘emember seeing it suggested and thinking it might be too OP but I was proven wrong

fervent pasture
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Role: Ghost Buddy
**Team:Goose

Description:
You Spawn as a ghost, already dead. But the same rules apply...

EXCEPT: Your tasks count!
(You have 1.5 or twice the amount of tasks as everyone else though)

calm hare
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the problem with that being that there isn't a set amount of tasks each player has anymore

fervent pasture
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Oh yeahhhh

faint goblet
dim oracle
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Role: Crow Team: Neutral Description: the crow wins with whatever teams wins and they can see the location of someone they marked for five seconds they can only have one person marked at a time

lavish craterBOT
calm hare
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Specifically:
Neutrals have their own win conditions
All the neutral roles have their own specific win conditions and win alone. Special roles like the Lovers are still Geese and Ducks first, and retain those as their primary win conditions.

dim oracle
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Yeah I realize that the way the crow wins is bad so I'm gonna alter it a bit

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Role: Spotter Team: Goose/Duck(Unsure) Description: The Spotter can see the location of someone they marked for five seconds they can only have one person marked at anytime the time before marking someone can be marked is five seconds the time to see someones location is the same as the kill cool down and someone is no longer marked when a meeting gets called and your mark on does not disappear when they die

fast night
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%role Operative(goose)
Once per round, you can plant a gadget on someone, if the person with the gadget dies, you will be notified (like celebrity, but only you will see) and you will know the location of death (like technician)
The gadget resets after an reunion and you must place another one

faint goblet
placid coyote
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Role name: Portal, Team: Goose, Is able to set up two portals anywhere on the map and all the players can use it

calm hare
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Instantly confirmable role

viral dove
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Could a Portal Duck work? Same abilities, but they can't vent.

tawny dagger
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Janitor
Team: duck
During around they will have one clean for a match when they clean somebody and meeting ends they will become a goose

lavish craterBOT
tawny dagger
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veteran
team: goose
The veteran has a button called alert it has a 10 second duration if anyone tries to kill the veteran when they have their shield on the veteran will pull out an Uno reverse card and instead the attacker will be killed. This forces killers to think twice before killing. keep in mind the veteran can still be swallowed by the pelican even when they're on alert! this forces killers to think twice before killing

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if it gets approved message me

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

tawny dagger
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Falcon is serial killer from Town of Salem

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dodo bird is jester from Town of Salem

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My role idea was vet from town of salem

calm hare
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And if the role you are suggesting is from any social deduction game, I can pretty much guarantee its either been suggested already and the devs are aware it exists

tawny dagger
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sheriff is vigilante from Town of Salem

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silencer is blackmailer from Town of Salem

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and there is a lot more

calm hare
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I'm not seeing your point

tawny dagger
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pigeon is hex master

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bodyguard is bodyguard

calm hare
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You can keep making comparisons all day, that doesn't change the fact that the devs are aware of and have played other social games

fervent pasture
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Knight ( goose ) is like the bodyguard when it feel it target is be on danger it attacks

drifting light
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That veteran role is a copy paste from traitors in salem. If it is a copy paste from a different game it likely will not be aproved

dim oracle
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That's true they really just copy pasted a role and said let's do it

worn cape
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Role: sniper Team: Duck Abilities: Gets one kill per game from anywhere on the map. Can kill from hiding spots and can kill those in hiding spots (discourages hiding all game).

tawny dagger
tawny dagger
calm hare
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And this conversation is over as it is no longer regarding new role ideas

faint goblet
faint goblet
fast night
# faint goblet It would make a good celebrity rework

maybe the duck can know if the person has a gadget when he kills it, so he can just run away

Also, honestly, I don't think even it needs any changes, this role is not like a Canadian in which it literally confirms whoever killed it, first of all, the duck's chance of killing the person you put the gadget on is low, also, even if they killed that person, the role does not confirm who killed it, it only helps to know the place and time of death, no duck stands in front of a body so its not so easy to know.
Also, for this role to work, most of the time the person needs to claim they are the operative, which makes him an easy target for assassins (or even normal ducks).

drifting light
fast night
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welp he quoted me

tawny dagger
viral dove
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As already mentioned, the Canadian already give killers a reason to consider who to kill. I've been in several lobbies where people kill very slowly, and if the geese aren't doing their tasks either, the game slows to a crawl. We don't need another reason for ducks to reconsider who to kill, so I don't think the veteran is a good idea.

drifting light
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We have canadian, celeb, avenger, engineers hiding, and fat pelicans for roles that make you not really want to kill. We don't really need more.

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Just to name a few roles

faint goblet
fast night
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you made me make an whole text lol

fast night
faint goblet
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Wait I see I did the same message twice, one for yours one for theirs when it was just meant ti be theres

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Yeah whatever I did has confused everyone including me

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Maybe I edited my reply to you thinking i was editing what I was saying to the other guy. I fixed it now, sorry

fervent pasture
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Parrot ( neutral) win conditions need to tie vote he like a dodo and politician mix

sonic prism
calm hare
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there's also no counterplay to it, it's all luck

tawny dagger
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eyas (neutral)
eyas is only accessible on one map jungle temple eyas is the Falcons sidekick and if the Falcon dies eyas Will become falcon. eyas cant kill (eyas Turns the tables And can easily gain trust)

eyas is what you call baby falcon that's where the name came from I know it's most likely not going to be accepted but it's worth a try

calm hare
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Neutrals have their own win conditions
All the neutral roles have their own specific win conditions and win alone. Special roles like the Lovers are still Geese and Ducks first, and retain those as their primary win conditions.

tawny dagger
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eyas and falcon share their victory

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OH

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eyas wins with falcon

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knew it

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penguin (neutral)
penguin can secretly place down icicles on people during meetings he can kill everybody who they placed an icicle on. people who have an icicle will know they have an icicle during meetings and if the penguin doesn't get voted out the they will die

this was inspired by the arsonist from Town of Salem SO DONT SAY ITS LIKE A MOD

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if you want more information search up arsonist town of Salem

pearl herald
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Oh

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Ok thanks

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I'm gonna delete it now

calm hare
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I'm going to just say that the pigeon already fills that neutral role and the penguin would just be a repeat

tawny dagger
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pigeon is more like hex master

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penguin is neutral killing

calm hare
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And as I said before, if it is in another social deduction game it's already been considered and most likely suggested multiple times

steep moth
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I can confidently say, if its involved in a social deduction game... we know about it thor_cool

calm hare
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A lot of us played town of salem before among us or GGD was a thing

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still do on occasion for that matter

worn cape
tawny dagger
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crow (neutral)
The crow has to mimic 3 winning conditions to win if they Mimic a player they will have the ability I will be explaining the following roles that the Crow can only mimic when they have completed 2 win conditions. any goose, any duck, pelican, Falcon, dodo bird, duelling dodo

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it took me ages to think of an original idea

pearl herald
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Oh

tawny dagger
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so it can be like this. I completed three winning conditions vulture, pigeon, duck

pearl herald
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I thought of something but I don't know what to name the role

tawny dagger
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I will be so pissed if it's not accepted

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most of my role ideas we're actually inspired

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Crow was my first role idea that was not inspired

pearl herald
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Yea

tawny dagger
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actually I admit that crow was a little bit inspired

pearl herald
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Yea it kinda was

tawny dagger
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it was a little bit inspired by Role thief from las monjas

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Role thief cant win so they have to pass on the role and steal the other role and that person will become the role thief

pearl herald
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I just thought of something because of you

tawny dagger
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so you got inspired by me

pearl herald
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Yes

calm hare
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So are you saying the crow steals someone's role and becomes that role?

tawny dagger
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no

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they mimic the role

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they have to mimic three winning conditions to win

sudden rampart
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How does one mimic a win condition

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If you have reached a state where the geese have completed their win condition

tawny dagger
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they mimic the vulture they have to eat five by then they lose the mimic

sudden rampart
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The geese have won

pearl herald
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Geese never lose again

pearl herald
calm hare
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So....you have to win....3 times

pearl herald
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So like what Kitzah said

tawny dagger
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yes

sudden rampart
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I think maybe it's hard enough for thr vulture to win

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Having to do so in addition to other win conditions seems impossible

pearl herald
sudden rampart
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Not to mention, achieving a geese duck or falcon/pelican win condition ends the game

tawny dagger
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just give me a couple seconds to find other roles I can mimic

pearl herald
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That's so difficult to win

calm hare
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I'm gonna say, strictly from a player standpoint, that's a role I would never turn on. Who wants to have to fulfill win conditions 3 times when you could just play the role that is being mimicked once?

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*turn on

tawny dagger
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yeah they can only mimic pigeon and vulture at the start of the game

pearl herald
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I would turn that role off ever time

calm hare
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That just does not sound fun or feasible

tawny dagger
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it took me so long

pearl herald
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That's just seems so difficult to win

tawny dagger
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now I have to spend a lot more time

void halo
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Maybe give that a read as you think on what role ideas you'd like

pearl herald
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I'm so lazy to read that

sudden rampart
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It's okay most people don't lol

void halo
calm hare
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And then they get upset when we tell them how their role violates it

pearl herald
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I love the emojis

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Raven (Neutral)
The only way the raven can win if they are killed if they are voted out it will not count

void halo
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!
It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

pearl herald
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Thief (goose)
The thief can steal people's roles can use the role until the person they stole the role from dies

void halo
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Confirms roles, too strong

pearl herald
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Ok

viral dove
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Peking Duck: Can kill from a hiding spot.

the name is inspired by the dish, and the mechanic is based on a pun (Peking/peeking). The crunch is that if a duck is hiding and their kill is active, they can kill one target near the location. To observers, the hiding place will open and close just like someone entering or exiting. Kill cooldown does not refresh in hiding spots.

I admit, I'm not 100% happy with the mechanic. I just want that pun out there.

sudden rampart
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I think someone's suggested something like that before

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I would guess that no one would go near vents anymore, lol

tawny dagger
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I just read the entire thing

calm hare
tawny dagger
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I am going to name my new role after crow because the only bird I can think of

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trapper (duck)
trapper can place down traps at hallways everybody except for one unlucky non-duck cant see da trap if somebody steps on the trap they will die the only way to survive a trap is like this there's a bunch of people crowding in a place I better not go there

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trapper cant place down traps at the feed the god/ye ucky areas because then It'll just be too overpowered

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because then they can just close the doors place that trap near the areas then called the sabotage

void halo
tawny dagger
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so that will be a downfall

calm hare
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**Have you guys considered a type of trapper duck? ** We have! It's been suggested several times. The idea could work, but as it currently stands, the role would be difficult to pull off in our existing maps. Having not been made with this in mind , the hallways and spaces in the existing maps are a bit tight, allowing for these traps to zone out entire areas. Consider the bridge leading to comms in SS Goose, or the teleporter in Nexus colony, for example.

tawny dagger
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then I better keep on thinking

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necromancer (duck)
can send out a slow goul that can noclip through walls To chase after a person the goul is as fast as an undertaker dragging a body

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The necromancer will force the player to keep on running and ignore tasks until a meeting is called the Gouls disappear when a meeting is called

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if a goul touches the person they're targeting the person they're targeting will die

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The disadvantage is that a goul will seek out the closest person and if the nearest person is a Canadian it Counts as the necromancer killing so the necromancer will self report

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If necromancer gets accepted please message me

void halo
calm hare
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We don’t really want to create additional vulnerabilities to the lights sabotage
The lights sabotage is actually a pretty great thing in terms of what it adds to the game. It lets ducks kill in the dark, it causes people to split up, it gives opportunities for ducks to change areas discreetly, it allows them to unlock sabotages discreetly, and more! So overall I wouldn’t want to create non-duck roles that can see in the dark because the lights sabotage is a great low skill floor high skill ceiling ability. New players that are inexperienced and would have difficulty finding opportune moments to kill have an outlet. Experienced players can use it that way too, but have the additional advantage of using it to do more interesting things as well.

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Also, owl would be neutral and need a win condition

pearl herald
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Ok

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I'll change it

void halo
pearl herald
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I didn't see that

buoyant crow
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The role document covers all of this.
Instead of being repeatedly denied because you weren't aware, it would be easier to read it. The main points are easy enough to follow.

I've heard of this before, it's called inefficient laziness whereby in order to avoid doing something, you'll go out of your way doing so much extra work, to avoid doing something that would have been easier in the first place

whole widget
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People find it easier to evade a problem rather than tackle it head on. Less time wasted, energy spent, annoyance avoided, etc.

Of course, if you don't permanently get rid of a problem, there's a high chance it'll just come back to haunt you again.

That's just how a lot of people are. Taking the easy way out. Why punch a wall down, if you can simply walk beside it? This is the same.

toxic cloud
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Can the undertaker hide bodies in vents?

whole widget
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no

fast night
ivory jay
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Can voting time be increased by 10 minutes in classic mode? My friends like to talk one after the other. Ten people in three minutes is not a lot of time.

void halo
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Minutes??

ivory jay
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yes,they like talk

sudden rampart
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it isnt likely a feature we are going to add

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its possible in the future if there's enough of a demand for it

ivory jay
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Okay, well, basically we were watching two streamers play and we realized they didn't have enough time.

void halo
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I would be a bit skeptical that all ten people would have useful information to contribute, but all groups play differently happy

ivory jay
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They will speak in order, so they may need partners to speak together and so on to prove their identity, or to speak at the end to unify the right to vote.

calm hare
narrow smelt
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I thought of the warlock. This is a duck who can send his soul through walls but they can see colors and there ghost move a bit faster than astral.

void halo
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The Warlock was revealed on the last dev log stream happy

narrow smelt
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Wait that is a actual role coming out??? I really didn't know

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I didn't do the stream

calm hare
buoyant crow
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Anti-spy Goose
Be the only player to vote for another player to reveal who they voted.
Can be used to validate claims of who someone is voting among other uses, at the expense of your voting power.

uneven shard
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That'd be more of a coincidence than a deliberate suspicion, though, because if others suspected they were a duck, there would probably be more than just the anti-spy's own vote on said snitch.

buoyant crow
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Probably a bit op in that use case. Limit to maps without a jail?

drifting light
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Easily confirmable, tell people who they voted for.

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Before the meeting ends

buoyant crow
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You wouldn't know until the next meeting

drifting light
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Then you would tell them the next meeting.

buoyant crow
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Well, it wasn't well though out lol. Back to the scrap pile

uneven shard
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It's a good asset to use against the Pelifalcon if nothing else.

viral dove
buoyant crow
viral dove
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Falcon and pelican would be fine as I know several people who always skip. Snitch would have to be more careful about using their ability, but it's not useless.

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

pearl herald
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Penguin (neutral)
The penguin can kill but when the penguin kills the person they kill will not be dead but will be on there side if the assassin guesses role in a meeting there whole team is dead

calm hare
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Teamswapping is a no go

void halo
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But nice job putting forth a Penguin role that doesn't involve a freezing mechanic!

pearl herald
sonic prism
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%role Rager(Duck): Your kill cooldown is slightly longer but decreases when you get voted at meetings.
The cooldown is affected by the proportion of votes it receives, but should need a few votes in order to break even, but its cooldown becomes extremely short when on the verge of being ejected.
The ways players could play around accidentally helping the rager is to not vote on their own and skip, or commit to voting with the whole group. It could also be in the interest of the rager to vote for itself and convince its teammates to follow suit, but if it is known that there is a rager it could be a give away its identity, but that could also be used to frame other players which could be a fun counter strategy.

calm hare
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Definitely an interesting idea, not a fan of the name "rager" myself. When i hear that I think of parties XD, maybe Berserker?

pearl herald
sonic prism
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Name is whatever, just thought it fit getting very angry when people vote for you

sudden rampart
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Reminds me of the peacock idea you once had

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Might have been called something else but I internally called it a peacock in my brain 🩚

stuck torrent
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I think it was like a penguin or something. It was a dodo varient.

pearl herald
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Cupid(goose)
Cupid can make people fall in love they will still have the same role but will also be lovers

calm hare
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So a goose that goes around handicapping it's own team

fast night
calm hare
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Except neutrals win on their own

fast night
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he would count as lovers team too i guess

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this role would not work at goose team since making goose lovers only help the ducks

void halo
faint goblet
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lmao

fervent pasture
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Whether an option of unlimited discussion time can be added

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maybe it's too long to you guys, but it's too short to us CN players

tired stag
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that could be put in general ideas
but i dont see how this could be a role idea

fervent pasture
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Because in the process of playing, people behind are always unable to speak because they have no time

tired stag
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thank you =]

minor finchBOT
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This is better feedback for #đŸ“„ïž±feedback but thank you for your suggestion, it has been read and will be taken into consideration

pearl herald
pearl herald
pearl herald
viral dove
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Being blocked from using your ability is rarely fun. Better to find creative ways to interfere (not block) with the abilities. For instance, the esper doesn't fully stop the psychic sabotages but instead draws attention to them.

pearl herald
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Ok

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Second Chance (duck)
If the duck is killed or voted out they will come back but they will not be able to kill but they will not be able to get voted out the only way they will die if they are killed

tired stag
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so the duck's second chance is to become a normal goose?
seems weird
interesting but weird

viral dove
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What would the duck do if called back? Call sabotages? They shouldn't change teams, as that's a no-no.

pearl herald
tired stag
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oh

pearl herald
tawny dagger
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crow (neutral)
The crow has to get 2 Pacific players voted out to win when they get one player vote it out another player will be selected to be the crows Target and they have to get that player out

pearl herald
tawny dagger
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their goal is to get two people voted out

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it's the same name not the same role

pearl herald
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Gotcha

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Insanity (duck)
When the lights are down everyone gets more insane the longer the lights are down the more insane people get

tawny dagger
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my role was inspired by executioner from Town of Salem

pearl herald
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Mine is from my mind

tawny dagger
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Except executioner cannot be killed by the killers and they had just have to get one person voted out to win with everyone

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The crow is vulnerable to attacks they have to get two people voted out and they win alone

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what do you mean by insane

pearl herald
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They will get more insane

tawny dagger
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but what are the effects of insane

pearl herald
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Seeing stuff

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hearing stuff

tawny dagger
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that is supposed to be a duck roll

pearl herald
tawny dagger
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does it happen to everyone

pearl herald
tawny dagger
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oh

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I thought it was a duck because it happens to everyone

pearl herald
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It is

tawny dagger
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I thought everyone was going to become insane

pearl herald
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But there's a chance the sanity could kill them if they take to long

tawny dagger
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so it's a duck

pearl herald
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Yes

tawny dagger
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what is forces people to go gas gas gas to lights

pearl herald
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Yea

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But close doors and lights

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Mother(goose)
The only way the mother can die if her two kids are voted out killed or disconnected the mother is invincible but if her kids die she will die her two kids will be selected at random for the two kids they will have there normal role but to the mother they are kids

tawny dagger
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so the ninja can counter mother

pearl herald
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If the ninja kills both of the kids

tawny dagger
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1 sec

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I was about a miss click and enter an inappropriate word

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I clicked X instead of C

pearl herald
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Oh

tawny dagger
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and mother counters hitman

pearl herald
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But mother will not die like gravy but if her kids die she dies

tawny dagger
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yeah but hitman can't kill the mother

pearl herald
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The hitman could die

tawny dagger
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so we're just being endless loop of the hitman chasing the mother

pearl herald
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Yes

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Don't mess with your mom

fast night
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because theres one in modded among us (we know its from tos, but yeah)

pearl herald
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No more crow

fast night
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i think it would be an good role, also no need for kill immunity

pearl herald
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What role

fast night
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executioner (crow)

pearl herald
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Oh

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dodo =jester

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sheriff =sheriff in among us

fast night
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yeah we know, but this are essential roles

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that balance the game

pearl herald
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assassin=evil guesser

lavish craterBOT
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The role you suggested is quite similar to one from modded among us!

It's possible that this inspired you, or perhaps you coincidentally developed a similar role. In terms of the general design direction, we're trying to build a different game and we aren't really looking to replicate the roles found in modded Among Us! But thank you for taking the time to make a submission, we love this type of community engagement

minor finchBOT
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*or another social deduciton game

faint goblet
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The whole “no suggestions from modded among us” is cause they already know about the roles so there’s no point in suggesting it, they are aware and will implement if they decide

tawny dagger
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Sheriff is actually vigilante from Town of Salem

fast night
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we know

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sheriff is an essential role that balance the game

minor finchBOT
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*or another social deduciton game

tawny dagger
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dodo bird is actually just heard from Town of Salem

pearl herald
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Sniper (duck)
They can kill from anywhere but if someone sees them kill they die 5 seconds later

fast night
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we need killers in the goose team, we also need jest so people dont just random vote

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same thing with assassin

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but tbh exec would really be an good change to the gameplay

pearl herald
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Vulture

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Penguin (neutral)
The penguin can freeze people but they won't get frozen until a meeting is called

The only way the penguin can win if they are last alive

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Not like Falcon or pelican

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They turn into ice when a meeting is called

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Even if the penguin is dead

viral dove
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It kind of seems like a pigeon/falcon mix, or even a twist on pelican.

chrome dirge
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like the idea of penguin ngl

pearl herald
pearl herald
chrome dirge
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The Swap Goose - After doing their given tasks, they can swap their role with a dead goose. (if no geese are dead a random goose role)

pearl herald
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I love it

chrome dirge
pearl herald
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Afterlife (goose)
When the afterlife dies they can pick anyone to go back to life at anytime pick only one person

lavish craterBOT
pearl herald
pearl herald
minor finchBOT
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Reading the role document posted above is a good baseline for what roles would and would not be considered much less added to the game

drifting light
pearl herald
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And with team swapping

drifting light
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Still a big no-no

buoyant crow
chrome dirge
buoyant crow
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I get what you were getting at, but geese all share the same tasks - once they're done the game ends to a task victory. No single goose can "finish" their tasks.

chrome dirge
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i see. so like as a swap "goose", they wouldnt have specific tasks to finish in the first place is what youre saying. got it

fervent pasture
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Comatose duck
This duck can give another goose questionable substances without them knowing which cause hallucinations, like seeing other imaginary birds that other players cant see

But really it just spawn AI birds that do preset paths that often is suspicious like going to sabotages and things and if a killer role tries to kill one of the imaginary birds their cooldown happens and body appears for them, but cant report it

It ends at meeting and only 1 bird can be affected, if someobody claims you affected them you can for example say that you were never near them and they may think an AI of you walked past them and not you

visual juniper
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Honestly I think this is okay but I think we should call it anesthesia instead of a “questionable substance” because that might not fly well with Apple or Google

fervent pasture
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Yes of course i dont know which words are banned because i think drugged does not fly

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cocainum

gritty swift
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Arsonist Duck:
This duck is a special kind of duck consisting of one key ability fire.

This duck can burn the corpse of a duck leaving only a small patch of fire left over at the end, to balance out the utter destruction of the Gooses Body.

Due to the large flamethrower on the Ducks back it loses its ability to vent.

Instead of a timer counting down the time it takes for the Ducks Kill Cool-down, it instead walks around the map collecting Gas Canisters, of course only visible to the Duck.

This ducks abilities and capabilities are endless under the right conditions, but can also be easily countered if not give enough time between kill, forcing this class to be about both skill, and utter destruction.

whole widget
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Perhaps...I'm a bit confused what you mean with the second line, but I get the idea.

It's kinda like the Forgetful Duck that someone suggested before, having to find their knife on the map to be able to kill every time

gritty swift
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With the demolishonist it leaves it’s legs and a small explosion patch to indicate someone has died, what I was thinking as it would remove the corpse, there would be left over flames that forever burn, to balance out the removing of the body

whole widget
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right, as an indicator that a body was once there

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It's a pretty good idea honestly. Would require careful balancing, but that'd be up to the devs

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Like how many bodies it can incinerate, how easy it is to find gas canisters, etc

void halo
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Does it kill like a normal Duck, then it can burn a body? Or does it's ability do both at the same time?

fast night
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what about an duck with pidgeon ability? but larger cooldown

calm hare
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I don't see the point to a duck having the pigeon's ability

gritty swift
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Also killing the body and then burning it is basically cannibal isn’t it

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It wouldn’t be original

drifting light
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I recognize this arsonist from traitors in salem, minus having to collect gas.

buoyant crow
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It would be basically Cannibal, yes, but the added addition of having to find fuel cannisters would balance its ability a bit.

Personally, I would make the fuel appear on the map for all players and only respawn after a meeting.
Yes it would confirm which duck you are playing against, but it would also be required to balance the rules a bit, I feel.

Seeing a fuel cannister disappear would indicate to you that not only is there likely a charred body somewhere, but also that the players recently passing through the area are likely the duck.

As the duck, to avoid people using this as a way to clear geese and find you, always try to keep your fuel full, so you don't pick up a fuel cannister by mistake, in front of a Goose.

gritty swift
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I feel like having the ability for the Goose to see the gas canister almost makes the role completely countered,
Possibly instead only a certain threshold spawn between rounds and don’t refuel, for example 1 goes for every 6 players, allow enough for 1 or 2 kills

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This would make the role feel balanced enough to were you have to be careful with your kills to not run out of fuel

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Whilst also not wasting canisters that would go to waste

buoyant crow
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Poor vulture

gritty swift
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Could also make the canisters require a task to be completed, this would make a new map be in the equation

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It’s an idea which can be heavily expanded on depending on which and how the flow of the game would go with the role enabled

buoyant crow
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It would effectively be another body hiding role, so it would need some kind of heavy balance.
Looking at the existing roles that can hide bodies, like pelican (leaves no body as it ate you whole), professional which leaves an invisible body that auto reports when a non duck non neutral steps on it, Cannibal which can delete one body from the map, either to clear themself before being caught, or stop the vulture from winning and finally, the undertaker duck, which can drag bodies to far off hidden corners or drop them in a river or furnace, at the cost of being very obvious and slow about it.
All of these roles risk getting caught in some way due to their ability. I feel that should apply to any future roles that can remove bodies from the map

gritty swift
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Possibly could be an over heat feature, like a high risk high reward sort of role.

The more time you kill, the hotter you get, use it to much you turn into fried goose.

Call it the “Pyromaniac Role” instead, why it’s high risk, for high reward, limiting the role completely to be more skill based, or an all out frenzy at the end of a round, of course it wouldn’t completely reset after a period of time, possibly required a threshold of tasks to be completed

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This then limits the duck physically in a huge way that other roles don’t have

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Maybe just completely have it be a “ Scoville scale”

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Scoville scale brings more backlash the higher it goes up, at certain points you could go slower, have less vision, possibly even have make your role completely obvious at a certain degree

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But at the same time, the ability to burn enemy’s to ash, making them completely removed from the game, makes the role incredibly overpowered

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In the right or wrong scenario the role could completely shine, whilst at the same time in worser scenarios it’s left completely helpless

buoyant crow
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I'd have just said make it take 3 to 5 seconds to burn the corpse lol

gritty swift
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The person on fire gets a 3 second speed boost, but the burn for 3 seconds

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That unbalanced the role heavily however

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So yeah maybe the corpse could take a while to burn

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I feel like I’ve made 2 separate roles here

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“Arsonist” and “Pyromanic”

buoyant crow
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Could be interesting and funny, seeing geese explode into flames then turn to ash in a stack of players.. As long as you have to stay in proximity of your target for several seconds, that could be a reasonable risk/reward situation I think.
In stacks, nobody can tell who did it but if you're alone, it's pretty obvious.

gritty swift
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Maybe they get 5 seconds of invisibility, but they can’t speak.

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So they run around really fast, for 5 seconds and then break down and burn

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Maybe that could be a gimmick of one of the two roles

faint goblet
buoyant crow
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Herbert detailed a neutral role a while back that should prevent grouping.

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He then told those of us who knew to keep it to ourselves and deleted everything he wrote

calm hare
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and herbert has to kill you now

drifting light
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Pelican should be able to swallow yee'ucky cannibal

fervent pasture
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Hostage (goose) is like the Canadian and celebrity but when they die they kill the one who kill them

buoyant crow
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That's very similar to veteran from an among us mod, been suggested many times

drifting light
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We already have a lot of roles that disuade ducks from killing. Not sure if we are wanting more.

sudden rampart
drifting light
calm hare
fervent pasture
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Or vil

sudden rampart
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i saw this picture on reddit and wanted to make a role for it

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so round

calm hare
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yes, i've seen that going around

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is the super round borb

sonic prism
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So you know that boulder sabotage in the jungle temple? How about this borb somehow becomes the boulder?

pearl herald
drifting light
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The Shrike angel

pearl herald
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Ok

drifting light
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A very nice birb, don't pay attention to that nickname people keep giving it.

pearl herald
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Ik gonna look it up to think of a role for it

pearl herald
drifting light
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Mayhaps

pearl herald
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Ofc

pearl herald
# drifting light Mayhaps

Shrike (neutral)
The shrike can use there ability which is called scratch on anyone and how many people they want the cool down to use it is 20 seconds tho when the shrike uses the ability shrike can either use scratch or madness the ability Madness teleports everyone they scratch to them kills all of them and reports when a meeting is called everyone who is scratch won't be anymore

sudden rampart
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just turning it into a fat bird

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what happens to the boulder

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i guess he just falls into the abyss

pearl herald
drifting light
sonic prism
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Rampage rolling down everybody in your your path could be fun, but I wonder what the player needs to do first before becoming an unstoppable moving object, let alone how could win

drifting light
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If the pelican eats a certain number of people maybe like 5 in a single meeting, they become a fat rolling ball that eats more by rolling over people laugh

void halo
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Katamari Duckacy

pearl herald
sonic prism
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Lol exactly, I was just thinking something along the lines of this borb needing to collect scattered food items on the map, acting as its cooldown, and it gets to become huge and able to crush anyone in its path for a short time, increasing by how much food it collected. I guess it could win like the falcon or have something a bit more original like needing to crush enough players in 1 go like some sort of combo

pearl herald
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oh like the a boulder role

drifting light
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Gluttenous duck

mint hollow
halcyon sphinx
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That’s not a bad idea

drifting light
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Should he become the normal size after a meeting when his belly becomes empty again. Or shall he be big forever.

mint hollow
halcyon sphinx
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But I won’t speak for the originator of the idea

drifting light
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Ooh ooh idea

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I remember an early version of the pelican being that people didn't die at a meeting when eaten, but instead were digested over time. When it was finished digesting, the player would be "dropped" as a corpse. What if we did that, but if the pelican is digesting a certain number of people at the same time, they become their "big" form which lasts until someone is done digesting and the belly count goes back below the amount needed for big mode.

halcyon sphinx
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That would be sick

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Also what if there was a role that could place traps, like say a new map with minimal sabotages but the main killer for the map (I was thinking a crow or raven) places traps/sabos than can be set off at will or automatically if necessary

calm hare
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**Have you guys considered a type of trapper duck? ** We have! It's been suggested several times. The idea could work, but as it currently stands, the role would be difficult to pull off in our existing maps. Having not been made with this in mind , the hallways and spaces in the existing maps are a bit tight, allowing for these traps to zone out entire areas. Consider the bridge leading to comms in SS Goose, or the teleporter in Nexus colony, for example.

halcyon sphinx
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Then perhaps traps could only be placed in specific areas such as places where the doors shut and even then, there should be a way to disarm in case a trap is placed in such a way that the players can’t travel around the map

pearl herald
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Toucans (neutral)
The toucans only is to be the last ones or one standing the toucans are a duo they only need one toucan alive at the end to win

mint hollow
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Specific areas would just mean experienced players know to avoid them.

What it would need are entirely new maps, designed to have much wider passageways and few choke points

fervent pasture
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Hawk ( neutral ) will replace falcon or pelican it the win conditions kill by the vent when it done the come next to vent

sand owl
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%role
Hacker Duck
This role will give you some additional advantages with the sabotages. This role will have two abilities. first ability is the ability to sabotage again once per pound without having to worry about the cool down. The second ability is two personal sabotages that the hacker exclusively gets. The first exclusive sabotage is to prevent the hacker from successfully hacking a killer robot duck. The second and last sabotage to lower down the thermostat within the building causing slight ice physics the geese have to fix it in time before the building freezes over

lavish craterBOT
viral dove
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The main problem: one ability per new role.

sand owl
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Ok then I'll just give it the ability to summon special sabotages men

sudden rampart
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i dont think thats the main problem, i think maybe the main problem isn that i dont understand what th ekiller robot duck is

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and why the hacker duck's main ability would be to prevent itself from hacking said killer robot duck

gritty swift
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Random Rascal:
This new kind of bird has entered the ring, this bird is one wacky, quacky fellow, being the definition of all that is bad with this quacking place.

He has one objective, to cause complete and utter chaos to all players inside the lobby, being able to cause utter mayhem throughout the lands.

This Peacocks only objective is to disturb and play with other Ducks and Gooses in the lobby, it wins the game by being quackers, having to disrupt all players in the lobby.

It’s abilities consist of covering the screen in confetti, playing a quacking over, and over, and over, and over, and every other weird and wonderful thing this Peacock can come up with.

drifting light
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So how would it win?

whole widget
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what the quack are you talking about

gritty swift
drifting light
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I find it is usually easier when you think of the wincon first, and then design the role around it.

gritty swift
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I just thought it of the top of my head

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Most gimmicks have already been used

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Voted outs dodos thing
Survive till the end is falcons thing
Eat them whole lobby is pelicans thing
Goose and Duck we know
Pigeon is infect player
Eating corpses is done

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I thought that maybe a role which doesn’t specifically need to win, instead torment would be nice

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It’s just an idea

drifting light
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The issue for me is that one neutral role idea I had is a copy paste of a different role from another sd game.

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I do remember posting a suggestion for a goose role that the help bot didn't reply no to, which is a good sign

fast night
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Egret(Neutral)
Ability: Kill, maybe assassin shot and vent?
You get an random target but you dont know who he is, you only get his role (you will basically receive an message like "Kill the medium" or "Kill the morphling"), if you kill the wrong person you die like sheriff
If you target die for smth that wasnt you (or get voted out) it will not count for your win and you get an new target
Goal: Kill 2-4 targets

viral dove
drifting light
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#đŸ’Źïž±general message
I honestly kind of like the idea of this. Probably won't ever happen because pelican doesn't really need a rework. Still would lead to some funny situations though.

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Could even have a timer for each individual swallowed that shows how much longer they have left to digest before they... reemerge.

tawny dagger
# fast night Egret(Neutral) Ability: Kill, maybe assassin shot and vent? You get an random ta...

that's literally pirate from Town of Salem their goal is to kill a pacific amount of players but it's a little bit different The pirate has to decide who to duel During the day and you challenge him in a duel that similar to rock paper scissors but with a twist there is chainmail, backpedal, Sidestep for the Victim. for the pirate they have scimitar, riper, pistol. pistol will kill somebody who goes backpedal but Chainmaile will deflect the bullet and Sidestepper will dodge the bullet. raper counters chainmail but will be dodged by backpedal and sidestep. and sidestep will be killed by scimitar but will dodge pistol and riper. if the serial killer wins the duel and decides not to go cautious the Serial killer will attack the pirate because pirate is a role blocker.

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now look who's the one with the Ideas that are inspired

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and nobody's saying well that should not be added which always happens to me when I have a role that is inspired

gusty bone
fast night
tawny dagger
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that is also a pirate from a mod called town of host

fast night
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and it isnt even the same lol

tawny dagger
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search up Town of Salem pirate on YouTube and then watch Pipetron

fast night
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pirate doenst get an random role to kill

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you just kill anyone you want

tawny dagger
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that is literally inspired

gusty bone
tawny dagger
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literally all of my roles Ideas are inspired and they are never accepted for that one reason it would be considered unfair

fast night
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pirate = kill anyone, get 2-3 kills, have a 33,3% chance of winning the duel and killing someone
this role = get an role, find out who has this role and kill him, if you fail you die (get 2-3 kills)
also the roles u suggested are literally an copypaste from tis thats why people complained about it
sooo... the only thing related is the goal

tawny dagger
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and i'd hate it

tawny dagger
fast night
gusty bone
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That's understandable, being told your ideas won't work feels terrible, I know that from experience.
But it's called the Ideas channel for people to come up with new ideas, not to try and jam the square peg of existing ones into the round hole of GGD.

tawny dagger
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nvm

calm hare
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Another thing to remember, especially when it comes to roles that are in other social deductions games is this. Many many people play a variety of social deduction games and I have yet to see a role from one of them that hasn't been suggested here multiple times already in one form or another. Getting told your role won't work because if is the same thing can get frustrating I'm sure, however, the solution to that is to come up with something new, not directly copy/pasted from another game. Pretty much every role that gets posted in this chat gets picked apart, dissected, reassembled, and reevaluated, etc. The fact that the devs aren't interested in just copying roles from other games is a good thing IMO because it means they care enough about the content of their game and the balance to not just throw every role that is suggested into it.

buoyant crow
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There have been very few role suggestions that have actually been accepted so far. Don't feel bad about it,

tawny dagger
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cloner (goose)
cloner is a protective role that will make everybody invisible to da killers and will make a clone running around mindlessly that will be the only Visible falcon, ducks, and pelican. if somebody tries to kill the clown every clone will disappear and everybody will become visible again and the killer's will realize that they got a clone

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keep in mind everybody will become invisible and everybody will have a clone that can only be seen by Falcon, ducks, pelican and I'm trying to figure out a role that can counter cloner

calm hare
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That would count as a kill block

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When the kill button is pressed, someone dies

clear barn
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I have had this idea for a while now and want to know what everyone thinks of it.
This role is kind of like the party duck but complete opposite. I don't know what it would be called but instead of getting a high pitched voice like with being partied, you would have a deeper voice. Again, no idea what it could be called, but I've had this idea for a while now. Lmk your thoughts

calm hare
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been suggested a few times, my favorite name is the Sulfur Hexafluoride Duck

clear barn
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Another idea I have, which could be considered a cheap role, is a role like the technician. But instead of seeing where a sabotage was done, you can see where a murder has occurred which will make it easier to find and report bodies. Don't have a name for it, but it's an interesting idea

calm hare
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That is an interesting idea, but gives the geese a lot of power when they already have the number advantage. It would also be incredibly unfair to roles like the vulture

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It's part of the same reasoning behind why the mortician doesn't get an arrow pointing to a body. Knowing when and where someone died is a lot of information for a single player to gain

tawny dagger
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ambusher (duck)
The ambusher will have the kill button replaced by ambush when they click ambush they will have 10 seconds to get away from the person after 10 seconds they will teleport to the person and the person will die they will have 10 seconds of invisibility their disadvantages is that they will become uninvisible and they cannot vent So it's very hard for killing us when you're in a big lobby

calm hare
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So not only does this duck teleport but it also has invisibility?

tawny dagger
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very hard for him to get away with murders tho

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at least I think

viral dove
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what about if they were the only duck in a lobby of 5?

buoyant crow
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I don't even understand it's ability

tawny dagger
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well then I think they're fricked

bright pond
tawny dagger
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basically a little bit like Amboy from town of Salem

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ambusher kill somebody that visits their target

bright pond
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It really depends on how the lobby plays, but either they stick together or split up (god I cannot spell)

tawny dagger
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there is too many players ambushers is out if there's two little ambusher wins

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so it depends on the lobby

calm hare
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If i'm reading this right, they teleport to their target, kill them, then go invis for 10 seconds?

tawny dagger
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or maybe five seconds

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actually five seconds sounds more fair

calm hare
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so basically a teleporting ninja duck

tawny dagger
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no

buoyant crow
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Sounds like more of a handicap than an ability

bright pond
tawny dagger
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it was inspired by ambusher from Town of Salem but with a twist

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instead of attacking somebody who visits their targets they attack them instantly it's an ambush

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it was inspired by town to Salem

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just with a twist

calm hare
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as you have said, no need to repeat yourself

buoyant crow
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An ambush typically involves sitting in waiting for your target

bright pond
tawny dagger
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like egret

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well then I'll just be a copy and paste and impossible

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because then he'd only be able to kill pelican falcon pigeon vigilante sheriff and barely more

bright pond
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Hmm

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Anyway, I’ve been typing out map ideas as the creative juices flow, which has led to me coming up with some roles that could be added

calm hare
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but to my understanding, this is just invis duck with less utility as they have to jump to their kill target to turn invisible

buoyant crow
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You choose your target, walk away. 10 seconds later teleport back to them and kill, then turn invisible and run away...

What if somebody sees you at any point during that?

tawny dagger
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then you're messed up

buoyant crow
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Right, but it's also got basically the same abilities as invis duck with less control over when things happen

tawny dagger
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yes

fast night
bright pond
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These are roles from the map I just submitted into the map idea channel, but I’ll pop them in here too. These roles mention snow and cold, and that’s because the map idea I submitted is an arctic map.

  • The Skua role is a neutral role that can stay in the cold for much longer amounts of time, and can get a small burst of speed before killing (which is activated with LShift). However, being around other players for too long will turn the edges of the nearby player’s screens red, and will give the nearby players a speed boost.
  • I have two ideas of a name for this bird: Terror Bird, or it’s modern relative, the Seriema. It’s because these birds are flightless carnivores that I think they’re beat for the description I’ll give. This role has the ability to see footprints, even when they’re not in the snow. The only drawback is, they have a limited number of uses for this. At the start of the game and end of each round, this role will be able to use this ability once, and it will last for a given duration (can be changed in server settings outside of matches or remain the same no matter what) and will only regain a use of this ability after killing.
whole widget
fast night
tawny dagger
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flamingo (flamingo)
literally its own team just 1 role call the flamingo flamingoes know each other and they can only kill nothing else there winning condition is to eliminate duck, gooses, and stuff in between. if one flamingo dies the other flamingo commits suicide after the loss of teammates for balancing purposes.

bright pond
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That is a neat idea

calm hare
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So falcon?

tawny dagger
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no

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basically ducks without vent and sabotage

fast night
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falcon with more ppl ig

bright pond
buoyant crow
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Falcon has identical win conditions, I'm not seeing the difference except the name

tawny dagger
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oh wait there's Nerfed ducks

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I thought that was ducks winning condition

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without the duck part

whole widget
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wut

tawny dagger
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flamingo is 1 or 2 and they are their own team

calm hare
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so 1 or 2 falcons

tawny dagger
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basically ducks without the sabotage vent

calm hare
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so falcon

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that is exactly what the falcon is

fast night
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falcon is an duck without sabotage and vent

tawny dagger
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they are their own team

bright pond
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Falcon but as a team

tawny dagger
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Falcon is not a team

bright pond
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Instead of solo

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No, you’re idea is just falcons, but working as a team instead of solo

tawny dagger
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flamingoes work together

buoyant crow
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Neutral roles don't get teams, this is a core of the game that won't be changed

calm hare
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so you want to see, 3 ducks, 2 flamingos, and 1 falcon/pelican in a single game? that's almost half the lobby as killing roles, it would just be a murderfest

tawny dagger
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so that's why their own team not neutral

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it depends on the amount of players

bright pond
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Two teams of ducks who fight, but one team of ducks can’t vent or sabotage and are called flamingos, then there the neutrals, and then there’s the geese?
That’s a lot of possible killers

tawny dagger
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if there's barely any 0 if there's lot of players 2

fast night
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it would be better if they are like lovers, if one dies the other dies too, so it gets more balanced

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but i still think its not good adding falcon2

calm hare
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I don't see what this would actually bring to the social deduction aspect of the game more than turning it into a "race to see who kills who first" party

tawny dagger