💡︱general-ideas

[sage carbon]

its something we've considered before

(and ultimately decided against)

[hardy pine]

One of the best parts of draft mode is that sometimes happens.

[sage carbon]

all the way back during the introduction of the mimic, it was something we considered

[hardy pine]

And obvs would be a setting people could turn on or off.

[sage carbon]

since the strength of the mimic would be considerably higher if ducks didnt necessarily know how many teammates they had

like knowing that there are two ducks in the game and 1 mimic is very different than seeing that there might be 1 duck + 1 mimic, or two ducks no mimic

[hardy pine]

Exactly! Makes it more fun. But if the mimic would be OP then could always turn it off

Yeah but isn’t that what makes it fun?

[sage carbon]

i promise its not that we didn't understand, its just that we decided against

[hardy pine]

Changes the pace of the game

[sage carbon]

a lot of player complaints are things that they could circumvent by not allowing certain roles or changing their settings

nonetheless they would prefer to just turn on everything and complain about it anyways

[hardy pine]

Why decide against stuff that some lobbies might choose to do and others not?

Yeah but that’s on them. Hehe

[sage carbon]

it is and it isn't

because we want to make the most amount of people happy as possible

[hardy pine]

Plus this would I’d assume be default off. So they’d have to actively add it in

I’d say to make the most happy you add in the options

Otherwise you restrict a fun update to appease a few complainers

[sage carbon]

i can see why you'd think that

and it would be nice if we could have that stance but, i ultimately dont think that's a position that makes the most players happy

[hardy pine]

Hmm weird take

[sage carbon]

🤷‍♂️

[hardy pine]

Well at least draft mode is already built that way

Our games with 6-7 players just tend to get…predictable with 1 goose.

Duck not goose

[sage carbon]

well, draft mode makes even less sense for this hypothetical setup than classic

since most ducks are picked

[hardy pine]

No I meant this for classic. Draft already results on variable #s of ducks and neutrals.

So usually when we get down to 6 or 7 we pop to draft to keep that mystery since we can’t in classic

[gaunt thistle]

The numbers of ducks in draft is actually predetermined based on lobby size from what I've seen.

[hardy pine]

Well we had one game with two and one with one last night, 7 player lobby. Not sure if neutrals were different that round

[rich dagger]

TBH, a lobby host could effectively make this happen by simply changing the number of Ducks occasionally. I've found very few people actually check the information button during a game

[hardy pine]

Yes that’s what I’ve been doing. Im usually host. I just want the mystery too! I feel like I have unfair knowledge.

But it’s how we like to play so we do it

[rich dagger]

With great power

[sage carbon]

The number of ducks for draft are not variable

Sorry that we're ruining the magic lol

[rare flame]

As herbird and Duck Side said, the number of ducks and neutrals in draft are predetermined based on the lobby size. I think 9 is the turning point from 1 to 2 (but still 1 neutral).

[gaunt thistle]

Some of my friends get around this by saving settings in classic and then load one at random

You'll never know what you're loading if you save them with silly names

[rare flame]

As for classic, the information is always present in the i button. If you don't check it for roles turned on or ducks active, that's you leaving information behind that's freely accessable

[hardy pine]

well i play in lobbies with friends so we just like to customize it to keep it interesting. otherwise social deduction games can get a little stale.

[hardy pine]

that's a super good idea!

[hardy pine]

well like i said, we had one game with 1 duck and one game with 2 ducks last night. lobby of 7. maybe the first had 1 neutral and the second none, but it was pleasantly surprising none the less

[rare flame]

If one game had a falcon, that could've made it seem like there was an extra duck. Otherwise, it shouldn't have increased without extra players.

[gray latch]

Commenting on the adding it as a togglable option idea real quick. If I was a dev, I wouldn't go through the trouble of adding a setting that will end up being unpopular even if it was togglable over something like a new map, additional fun roles, or bug fixes.

You could argue things like "well you have voting visibility amd flashlight mode", and that I have no rebuttal for, honestly. Other than that they are already there from the start.

[rich dagger]

I think the whole "well it could be an option" thing gets messy very quickly. Look at the settings for popular AU mods. Pages and pages of settings to adjust every little thing for every role. Very overwhelming.

[gray latch]

It's already a bit frustrating when you check settings and see flashlight mode is on, or the role you really like is off, and the host either doesn't know how to change it or doesn't want to change it.

Imagine that with maybe 20 different little settings

[worthy tangle]

Voting visibility and Flashlight mode allow for self-created role buffs/nerfs
Pelican being overbearing? Put them in flashlight mode.
Ducks getting too comfy in meetings? Add in vote visibility.
Want the geese to fully experience GGD as a horror game? Turn of the lights and give them all flashlights.

They're options that give the game entirely different playstyles, which can't be achieved without them.

[gray latch]

That is a good point, but I often play with randoms as my friends don't play this game. If they did I can absolutely see us changing a few things if pigeon kept winning for example

Flashlight mode can also be fun for goosehunt, actually

[rare flame]

I usually put flashlight mode on the duck in goosehunt, as the duck often wins too easily with the default setting.

[gray latch]

I remember a lobby that house ruled that geese get a 10 sec head start. That was a lot of fun.

Anyway this is going away from #💡︱general-ideas now.

[mellow iris]

I was about to say that

[granite wave]

i can help if got lost in indonesia translation

[waxen crescent]

This happened over 15 times to me as cannibal duck

A sheriff camps a body for vulture I was gonna kill him

But eats the body instead

Which gets me killed

I feel like it would be better if the cannibal duck kills instead of eating the body when a person is within the kill radius

And I don’t see any flaws about this small update

You can just make a separate button for eating

This is also the same issue with undertaker duck

You get stuck pulling the body when someone stands on it

Instead of killing them

[gaunt thistle]

I also dislike such things happening, but I also know not to do such things in such situations after the first time it happened.

[dire tendon]

I'm personally not too bothered by it, but the undertaker duck thing has happened to me before too.

So I do understand where you're coming from.

[rare flame]

I guess the best advice would be to aim better when going after a camping sheriff. There's also no reason you need to kill them that round when you know they're looking for ducks.

[gray latch]

I find the range to get the kill vs eat/drag the body is somewhat different. If doing that is an issue try to get the sheriff at the very edge of your kill radius.

[harsh crane]

Yeah, I once had an invis duck kill and an undertaker almost double kill me but they dragged the body instead so I killed them.
The kill button should override the drag/eat instead of the other way around. If both are an option than you only get the option to kill.

[real yarrow]

Release it on console

[gray latch]

Devs have already stated that console released are very unlikely at best.

[rare flame]

The problem with releasing on console is that updates will require long approval times. Apple is already a bigger bottleneck than they want.

[real yarrow]

Ok

[gray latch]

#💡︱general-ideas message
This was a dev's message on the subject

[mellow iris]

Well, i'm a moderator, not a dev, but yes that message is accurate as per information that has been passed down

[gray latch]

Meant to say mod but was thinking dev

[hazy pivot]

Releasing on console is even more treacherous now as Microsoft requires multiple compatibility requirements.

[real yarrow]

L Microsoft

[ashen marlin]

I think in the goose goose game, sales should be made according to the currency of the country, but only with dollars

[frank night]

I'm fairly sure when you click the item it converts to your currency using the conversion rates at the time.

[ashen marlin]

about it appearing without clicking...

[frank night]

We display in USD because it is simpler and everything is based off that currency. When you press the button, you can still cancel the transaction

[velvet wing]

How can i fart mobile

[sage carbon]

double tap your goose

[velvet wing]

Thx

[dire tendon]

double tap him in the butt so the gas gets loose

[upper ridge]

._.

Idea to make channel where ppl can ask questions and everyone can answer?

[ocean cypress]

The community is pretty good at answering questions #💬︱general is a good place

[upper ridge]

Okay than

[pale reef]

Random idea but it could be cool if there was a special achievement for being the 10 thousandth goose to die on the daily counter, so there would be a few winners each day but still being incredibley rare.

[quartz arrow]

I actually really like that idea.

QOL idea here: I think a “Topic” or “Requirements” tag on normal lobbies and not just lounge I think would be helpful finding the right crowd in public games because it’s already pretty hard to do so.

[dire tendon]

Would be cool if the icon for Goose Goose Duck beeps yellow for a brief moment, to indicate that a game starts/ends and a map change happens like some games have

Would be useful, as some people tend to mute the game and tab out whenever they're dead to watch videos or something.

[upper ridge]

Yes i though abt this week ago xdd

[harsh crane]

That sounds both annoying if you’re sitting there starring and practical if you’re not. Maybe an option to turn it on before you get up

[dire tendon]

Yeah, would be useful as an option to have.

I often don't realise a game has ended while I'm doing something else, and I open up the game again only to find that I've been kicked.

Which makes sense. A host will only wait so long for someone to ready up.

[rich dagger]

Games typically only do this if the game isn't focused. So if you were already in the game waiting it wouldn't blink yellow.

[dire tendon]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry Lime, I misread what you were saying.

But yeah, it would only blink yellow if the game isn't focused. To give you a heads-up when you should focus it again.

[rare flame]

The game also autokicks players if they aren't moving around for about 5 minutes.

[dire tendon]

yeah, that's another good reason to add the yellow blinking for that too. It's something that's easy to forget about, when you have it tabbed out.

[cerulean quest]

Why would you ever tab out of Goose Goose Duck?

thought so

[dire tendon]

Because I have zero patience to wait for the next match, and it's quite boring if you're not really invested.

Especially if you need to wait 20-30 minutes if you die early on

[gray latch]

Achievement idea:
Name: How are you still hungry?
Condition: as pelican, swallow X geese. X would probably be in the hundreds, maybe 200?

If the name is too wordy then it could be shortened to "still hungry"

Obviously this would be a count of all time, not in one match. At least until ggd matches have 200 players at once.

[warm adder]

Fart sound packs

[hazy pivot]

Games don't take this long. Average game time is 6-8 minutes.

Private games tend to go on a bit longer.

[dire tendon]

Well, I may have exaggerated. That's fair enough.

But I still believe the yellow blinking could prove useful in terms of being aware of games starting/ending, and a map change happening when you don't have it focused.

[gray latch]

I do often tab out while readied and waiting for a match, especially if I am one of the first in the lobby and there are only 3 or 4 in it. A beep at game start could be useful.

[onyx nimbus]

How about a side role. Someone could know your side role but it dosnt effect anything other then how you play it. Like you could be faster/slower.

[gaunt thistle]

The game already does make a distinct audio cue when the game is starting

[gaunt thistle]

So like a modifier?
I believe modifiers have been discussed in the past.

[sage carbon]

i dont conceptually hate the idea of modifiers, but we probably arent going down that route

modded among us has that if that's what youre interested in

[dire tendon]

In my particular situation, I tend to mute the game while I wait. So the game's volume and people talking doesn't interfere with the sound of the video I'm watching.

When I do that, that distinct sound is rendered moot. I know me muting the game would be my fault, but sometimes I'd like to do other stuff while I wait rather than talk in lobby.

[dire tendon]

the yellow blinking could be an optional thing that you can checkmark in options somewhere, so people can choose to have it on or not

[rich dagger]

No options!

[dire tendon]

guess I'll keep getting auto kicked while I'm tabbed out

fortunately I still have memes

[rare flame]

If you just mute the players talking and turn on Silent but Deadly, that should leave everything but the game audio going, which will let you know if a game match is starting. Or it will play the main menu theme if you've been kicked out of the room for whatever reason.

[dire tendon]

That would mean having to mute every single person, and unmuting every single one again when the match starts.

While it's certainly an option, it would be a bit of a pain if you have to do that every time.

[rare flame]

Actually, it's a single button press, the Deafen button. I think it defaults to P on keyboard, but I rebound it since it's fast away from all the other buttons. That's all I was suggesting.

[dire tendon]

Oh right, my bad. I mean, that would still leave the game audio to interfere with the sound of videos you might be watching.

And sometimes it can be a really long wait. Both for waiting for a lobby to fill up, or for a game to end.

So I just mute the game audio in general, usually. Which makes me miss out on role selection, map change, etc when tabbed out

[pale reef]

An option to grey out the disconnected players in meetings could be nice. Just because it's a little difficult to see who is alive and who disconnected at a glance.

[rare flame]

Maybe the disconnected plug should be on the voting logo, similar to being silenced.

[dire tendon]

I think they mean that the disconnected player spaces in general are lighted up now, like those who are currently alive, which can confuse people.

They used to be greyed out, like with people who were killed.

[gray latch]

I do absolutely agree with players that disconnect being greyed out

[rare flame]

Thing is that graying them out means they aren't in the game any more, but they now have 90 seconds to get back into the game. Thus, the plug icon to show they're away for now.

[gray latch]

Grey out after the 90s then maybe

[pale reef]

I feel like the solution is to have them greyed out and have the plug icon, just so they aren't obviously marked as dead but not visibly alive and active

[gaunt thistle]

How then do you differentiate between dead and disconnected, and just disconnected?

[dire tendon]

This would probably be the best solution tbh

But yeah, not sure if something like that would be easy to implement

I'm personally not really bothered by it, but I can see how it's current state could cause some confusion.

[pale reef]

My idea is that alive is just normal, dead is greyed with , pending disconnect is greyed with 🔌 , fully disconnected is grey with 🚫. I guess dead and pending disconnect could use both though. I know interacting with a greyed out disconnected player is odd but it feels just as confusing seeing them "alive"

[rich dagger]

I feel like that's overcomplicating it TBH

[tall gyro]

As the duck, there should be a second chat tab for them, so they can communicate with each other

[mellow iris]

Basement has telepathy sabotage that's about as close as you are like to get

[tall gyro]

What does that sabotage do?

[mellow iris]

Lets the ducks talk to each other on voice

[rare flame]

For a limited time, at least

[waxen galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/limited-time-only-amine-adam-amine-daniel-redmercedes-deal-gif-17936773

[ancient ginkgo]

You know they should add that to some space maps. Being able to talk as ducks in meetings without other people being able to read it

The only problem is whether or not the mimic can see it

[rare flame]

This is why there's no mimic in The Basement.

[ancient ginkgo]

Oh yea

[harsh crane]

(If it’s possible) could codes in LFG discords be automatically deleted once a room is disconnected?

[mellow iris]

There is no connection between discord and the GGD servers. That would necessitate the devs making a channel between the two. I don't think they will do that as it would be effort that isnt' really needed

[harsh crane]

Fair, I knew it was a long shot.
Though is it possible to just have a list of active codes that get automatically updated somewhere, and only that is checked in the discord?

[mellow iris]

I'm no programmer so I can't really comment on the feasibility of that

[rich dagger]

I think the problem with that is that not all hosts want their codes to be shared

[elfin timber]

I've got two main requests: please allow us to choose which monitor is used (in multi-monitor systems), and please bring the game to console (including the PS4 generation) with crossplay? it would be so much easier to play with controller

[rich dagger]

Console is highly unlikely as the approval processes would create extremely long times between updates. Most major console controllers are supported on PC

You can also google how to move a game to another monitor

[elfin timber]

none of those options are particularly great... I don't want to turn off my main monitor, and I don't want to change which of my two monitors is my windows default. having a button to go "yeah imma play on the tv screen today" while keeping the other screen on isn't something you can do in windows without mucking up all your settings

[rich dagger]

Windows Key + Shift + Left/Right

[elfin timber]

thanks

[rich dagger]

[dire tendon]

Perhaps something to set apart the bell task from regular tasks.

A lot of new players tend to mistake the bell for a task, mainly due to the yellow aura that surrounds it which is the same that tasks have.

While it might not fully prevent that, it could help if it's aura was coloured differently.

Since tasks are yellow dots on the minimap and are thusly coloured yellow when you walk near them, perhaps the bell's aura could also have the same colour like it has on the minimap.

[waxen galleon]

But then how can I use my clearly obvious dodo play?

[dire tendon]

hahahahaha

and then everyone is like

SON OF GUN I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF TASK

and then angry vote the dodo out

I've seen it happen lol

[waxen galleon]

It's a patented Xizta play.

[rich dagger]

The meeting "button" is marked on each map with a megaphone icon

[dire tendon]

Yeah, I know.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, so I'll try to reword it a bit.

On the minimap, tasks are marked with yellow dots, similar to how they radiate a yellow colour when you walk near them.

The megaphone's icon on the minimap however, is not yellow. Since a lot of people confuse it with a regular task when they're near the bell since it radiates yellow as well, I was suggesting that the bell could radiate with a different colour when you walk near it. So perhaps, the colour that it has on the minimap, or just another flashy colour.

[dreamy brook]

Thats preety smart and I would like that

[harsh crane]

In draft, the max amount of killer geese could/should be less than the ducks,
Like not having a vigi, sherif, avenger against two ducks

[rich dagger]

Geese with guns usually are worse for geese than the ducks

[upper ridge]

yup xdd

[granite wave]

Hola soy español

[magic yarrow]

@granite wave

Looking for a group to play with?

Select your language in #lfg-language to access your language's LFG channel, and then post a code there or join a game.

[gaunt thistle]

An idea for an achievement for lovers. Ultimate betrayal.

Where there's two lover geese in a game, a dodo and a duck, and the dodo gets voted out stealing the lovers victory.

Inspired by actual in game events

[granite wave]

turnaments

[ancient ginkgo]

Does anyone know what happens when both lovers are geese? Plain geese.

[mellow iris]

Not sure what you mean. The only difference between that and a goose duck lover pair is that they can't kill

[granite wave]

free money

[ancient ginkgo]

I know when we won it said we were both geese and neither of uskilled

[mellow iris]

What exactly are you trying to figure out?

[acoustic bolt]

as far as I can think, the only difference is that the game can end before ur game winning condition, but since u r a goose u win either way, for example, they kill both ducks, in a duck goose lover pair, the game will end whit ur victory or both of u dead

[gaunt thistle]

Lovers can be either a Goose / goose combination or a Goose / duck combination

[stuck fable]

im thinking maybe you should turn off the mechanic vent boot on chapel and mother goose. makes it too easy for the assassin guess the role, just my opinion. that and maybe taking the cooldown for bell down to a second before when the bell can be called so theres always the chance to stop a bell from being called

[harsh crane]

They have the advantage of trust in having a player in the game they can completely trust in a game of lies.

[harsh crane]

There use to not be a mechanic vent boot, the current way is far better. If the mechanic doesn’t want to be caught by assassin they can avoid using vents or claim pigeon.

[stuck fable]

I know there used to be im legit asking doe that to be complete reversed cause it was a bad idea for the flow of the game lol. Atleast imo

[mellow iris]

I think it was a needed inclusion with the new task system. It prevents the mechanic just sitting in vents hopping around to spy on people all game

[rich dagger]

The devs are constantly monitoring the state of roles in the game, particularly when changes are made to existing roles. They will adjust if they believe it needs to be adjusted.

[stuck fable]

With that reasoning wouldn't doing the same thing to pigeon make sense?

[rich dagger]

No

It is not in the Pigeon's interest to sit in vents all game

[stuck fable]

they do tho, just about every pigeon player does

worse than mechanics lol, atleast the ones i've interacted with

[rare flame]

If they do, they don't win.

[mellow iris]

really that's very similar to a duck who just does tasks and never kills anyone, sure you CAN play that way, but you aren't likely to win playing that way

[stuck fable]

Lmao I've had plenty win that way

Hell I've won that way

[rare flame]

If you've won as a duck that way, then your partner was carrying you. A duck has to kill to win, and a pigeon has to sneeze. If you don't care about winning, that's one thing, but you'll not win on your own.

[stuck fable]

I obviously meant pigeon you can't equate the two unless you're trying demo and pigeon

[harsh crane]

If the mechanic isn't forced out than ducks can't vent cause the mechanic will catch them. Like I seriously use to learn who most of the ducks were every game I got mechanic in the first round, one goose for multiple ducks is far too strong of a role and that's assuming it was a trade. When I got duck I refused to vent cause it's far too likely to be suicide for ducks to vent (And there's a very good gameplay reason why ducks need to vent), mechanic was crazy OP, just taking away a main ability of all the ducks.

Mechanic is fine as it is now, it was NOT fine before. Though yeah snoop and pigeon still have similar potential issues.

[stuck fable]

it was fine before because there was atleast 3 options to choose from and 2 where non ducks which made it difficult to piece together, i stand behind the do the same to pigeon if your gonna nerf mechanic like that cause it makes it easier to snipe by an assassin. its basically making the one ability it has useless when theres an assassin in play, not universal but theres enough of an issue there that it may as well be a uniform nerf

and mechanic would be op if it could do something with it like kill or activate or nullify sabos. being able to sit in a vent is only op when people use it intelligently which can be said for all the duck roles annd half the geese roles, saying it needed a nerf based on those facts is like saying demo shouldnt be able to give bombs and walk away cause its unfair to the geese. the way it was before there was an established balance

[gray latch]

Quite late with the pigeon staying in vents all game topic, but I do stay in vents as pigeon. At least for the early game. Make my move when I have a good idea who the killers are and there are not many people left.

[stuck fable]

oh ik, tbf i never gave my opinion when people where complaining about mechanic cause i never thought their complaints would amount to much. i honestly dont think either need a nerf, their fine as is or atleast where fine

[stuck fable]

thats how alot of pigeons play

[worthy acorn]

Do y’all think a role that can heal dead bodies would be cool?

[magic yarrow]

Hey, I just suggested a role, can we add it?

No. Your idea is interesting, but it breaks one or all of the rules listed in the following document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JHySGkJPkCGyTxHyU1jK7XAptCkam79RRgt_j-TFOY4/edit?usp=sharing . Feel free to give it a read if you want some insight into the roles that we would approve of

[mellow iris]

"I would sooner delete GGD before adding in a kill stop/revival role" ~Shawn

Geese coming back from the grave takes away the deduction factor of the game

[harsh crane]

Delete: I think I might have suggested this goose already

[stuck fable]

dunno if it's been suggested but a duck that legit animates a corpse, but only when a goose walks over it. Both killing said goose and making both bodies dissappear. i'd say the cooldown would have to be pretty long too, since it's a possible double kill

[hazy pivot]

We have an idea for this

[stuck fable]

oh really? color me intrigued lol

[velvet wing]

Make it so if your invis that you can see yourself and gooses

[mellow iris]

That gives invisibility duck too much of an advantage

[velvet wing]

Than make it rare tho get it

[mellow iris]

Not sure what you mean by that

[velvet wing]

That it is harder to get that role

[mellow iris]

Or they could leave it balanced like it is. It is a very powerful role even with being blind

[sage carbon]

umm

light has to hit your retina for you to see

if you were to turn invisible, your retina's are invisible, so you can't see yourself

sorry its just physics

[hazy pivot]

This is actually true, if you were invisible you wouldn't be able to see anything. Quantum super-position of a photon would theoretically allow it to hit your invisible retina yet still go through but here is the catch... Your retina can't know both to let a photon through and block it at the same time, it can only do one or the other. So by the laws of physics I guarantee that while theoretically possible it is also theoretically impossible at the same time. When something is both possible and impossible it is by default impossible.

Causal Impossibility is a very complicated subject to break down in the quantum realm but Herbert is correct.

[rich dagger]

Where's Neil Duckrasse Tyson when you need him?

[hazy pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-hands-neil-degrasse-tyson-shrug-gif-16274429

[gray latch]

Kind of like how if you ever went the speed of light, you would be blinded because the light would not make it to your eyes.

Ignoring the fact that the air's friction would turn you into chicken strips first

[harsh crane]

Doe that mean you could (doesn’t mean you will) make invis duck see people so long as it means everyone can see their eye’s while invisible? Cause that would he an interesting nerf/buff

[hazy pivot]

no

[gaunt thistle]

I got stuck on a door yesterday as invis because I couldn't see where I was. I thought that was a pretty fair compromise for being completely undetectable

[finite hedge]

Could you increase the achievement related to the number of task? I think it help people will do more task. - user's idea.

like... do 10,000 tasks!

[finite hedge]

And I want the person with "disconnect" to be marked with a dark color. (During voting time)

[dire tendon]

I agree with Kermit. The light colour makes it really confusing to know if they're still present (albeit struggling with some connection issues) or if they're straight up gone with the disconnection countdown happening

[sage carbon]

theyre not present

they're disconnected

they can still be voted on etc

[finite hedge]

It's so uncomfortable because it's constantly marked with "disconnect".

[sage carbon]

what is specifically the issue.. is it that it isnt easy enough to see that a player is disconnected?

[finite hedge]

Even if we go out and come back in, there's diconnect icon.(I guess...) And when the dead man leaves(=disconnect), it's bright...

In short, I wonder if someone's really participating in the game!

[sage carbon]

the first part.. so you're saying if you disconnect, and come back, you still have a disconnect icon?

[finite hedge]

Let me check it

[granite wave]

Would it be possible to have a setting where you can see how each player voted when your dead but still have anonymous voting while your alive ?

I think the settings would help new players understand different strategies and allow people to identify cheaters more easily

[granite wave]

I believe what Meow is saying is that when a person disconnects, the icon on the screen is no longer faded and looks exactly like an active player but for the tiny disconnection symbol. Previous to the update, identifying a disconnected player was much easier

[gaunt thistle]

Disconnected dead players look the same as disconnected alive players, is what they're saying

[finite hedge]

yep, it's 2nd one

[finite hedge]

I just checked, and I think the icon is still there when I go back into the room.

[rare flame]

What I've noticed in my last game, if a person died and then later disconnects, they go from darkened to light, as if they might still be alive but disconnected. I did see someone with the dead shadow and disconnected, but at the next meeting, they are now lit up but still have the disconnect logo.

[sage carbon]

okay, this was something that we had thought we fixed

guess something got dislodged along the way, we'll take a look

[rare flame]

I'm not sure about this idea. I appreciate where you're coming from, but for advanced players, seeing a person's strategy might work against them in a future round. (Not that people can't already learn that.) Also, would the Vote Reveal still show if it were on Blind voting (aka, none of the vote results are shown)?

[granite wave]

That's a good point, I just figured it would help a host determine whether someone is teaming. I guess you could have it so you can turn it on if that becomes a problem and turn it off when the game is being played as it should be.

You could turn it on to determine the teamers, get rid of them and turn it back off

[wheat bison]

add menu optional login whit twettr

[sullen idol]

maybe an option to remove/switch pelican from the basement? i really like the map but me and my friends always play with 2 ducks and 2 neutrals with falcon checkmarked because it is an balanced way to have 3 killers with only 12 people (3 ducks would be too op) but pelican basically ruins everything because it removes falcon and vulture from the game and its an pretty op role ngl

[stuck fable]

Disagree with the reasoning but agree with the idea, also maybe have pelican escape to one of the Victorian Era maps or have it shipped onto one of the ship maps. It being relegated to basement gets boring, love the role tho.

[rare flame]

Hopefully the pelican will get a chance to be on other maps in the future, but for now, they fit the body-disappearing theme of The Basement

[gray latch]

The problem is that the other maps were not designed with the pelican in mind. What happens if the pelican gets crushed by chandelier or ejected into space via airlock.

The only other map the pelican could work on is Goosechaple, but even then it is much more open than the basement and harder to make snack runs on without being caught.

[finite hedge]

I think the duck will be hard this time due to the detective and birdwatcher buff.
How about giving tasks to the whole duck? Kill Player0 birds in one round and the sabotage is initialized. Like this. Is it too much power?

Ducks do their tasks, too.(Randomly killing birds, using sabotage several times) So ducks can use sabotage one more time or reduce the goose workload a little bit. Is it too much power?

[sage carbon]

i think serial killer is quite strong

the truth is that the cooldown isn't nearly as relevant as their arrow

[finite hedge]

Or like a prohibited area... We're building a knife shop. If you talk to a knife dealer there for more than (n)seconds, we can accumulate a knife only once. Is this too strong?lol

high risk high return

Oh, and there's a notification that says someone's doing business in a secret store. (The location of the secret store is random every round???)

[dire tendon]

I personally still don't think the Detective buff is that strong. I heard it has a 30 second cooldown.

In most situations, someone will die before those 30 seconds are up, and others will report their body before you can use it a second time.

Birdwatcher and Engineer however? Holy moley, I can see how that will be seen as OP. I imagine a lot of people will indeed complain. I don't really mind, though.

[dire tendon]

I have no comments or complaints about Serial Killer whatsoever, I think it's a good new role and I like it

[rich dagger]

Serial Killer is very strong late game

[rare flame]

Part of the problem is that most people will immediately report bodies, which makes detective much weaker. Not that people shouldn't be reporting bodies, but the longer you go without a body, the stronger detective gets.

[gray latch]

Detective I don't find more or less strong, birdwatcher has found their true potential, engie is certainly a lot stronger but I don't think they are op.

Vety very strong, but not overly strong

[sullen idol]

detective doesnt need changes

[dire tendon]

Yep. The other part is that there are many moments where a detective will just get slashed if they try to check someone. Or they get lucky, and the killer's cooldown is still up so they can get away with it.

So either a body gets reported which ruins their chances to catch the one who just killed, or they just get slashed immediately most of the time.

I still prefer the very first detective, personally.

[gray latch]

And for the killer of cereal, I do agree their strength increases as the game progresses, but it will be rough if the target is canadian.

[dire tendon]

I do think Serial Killer duck is perfect where it is now. It doesn't feel overwhelming and has it's own unique ability.

[gray latch]

Same, a role that is strong early game is just as valid as a late game focused one. And having a role that hard counters your own makes things more interesting.

As well as ensures you don't go too crazy with your abilities

[dire tendon]

it's pretty cool to be able to track your target with the arrow

[gray latch]

Seeing the arrow as vulture or dueler gives me great happiness. I'm sure it will feel just as good on cereal

[dire tendon]

it's very useful to ambush people with

[granite wave]

i think it would be cool and funny if politician and locksmith got rolled into one role. would work too because theyre always on the same maps

[mellow iris]

I don't think that would make sense

[fresh shadow]

There's a weird deal where my earbuds won't have any volume when playing the game. Worked perfecting fine before the 2 updates before hand.

[rich dagger]

Sounds like a #troubleshooting-and-bug-reports instead of a general idea

[granite wave]

@mellow iris maybe roll both into bailiff, has keys to jail and if he ties he gets out of jail free. idk i feel like it would make the role a lot more chooseable in draft.

[granite wave]

Auto-filled system it a fill a dead lobby only on private with players

[pale reef]

Being able to create and keep a few pre set cosmetic combinations could be a nice feature, especially since theres a lot more of them

[hallow zinc]

Actually an amazing idea

[rare flame]

What do you mean by this? I have no idea what you mean.

[dire tendon]

They might mean bots to fill up the empty spots in a lobby, but only on private games?

That's my guess but idk

[mellow iris]

Sounds like that would be a public lobby to me

[dire tendon]

lol

can't argue that

[granite wave]

When will the cosmetic update happen? (the combination on head like - eyes and hat at once and such)

[magic yarrow]

When will we get the next roles/maps/feature/cool stuff?

As soon as it's ready! The gaggle team develop quickly, and we release patches fairly often. We don't often give out firm dates because it's either going to be a lie if we're wrong, or it'll be a rushed product that might sacrifice quality for speed. This could translate into releasing something without sufficient testing and creating lots of bugs for the game.

If you find none of that explanation sufficient, as Herbert always says, today we are one day closer than yesterday.

[rich dagger]

This would be fantastic

[granite wave]

it would be nice if there was a 4x4 grid of players in the menu with outlines of who is talking instead of the scrollable menu. would make it so much easier for lobby hosts to kick people with mic noise

[dire tendon]

it is indeed a bit tedious

[clear palm]

so I hate the ready up option it's just us yelling at some random dude who is not readying I want some servers to have the option to remove the ready up thing so we can immediately play not just yell at some random dude

[rich dagger]

Kick them, problem solved

[harsh crane]

Maybe not being ready when it starts could just put someone in spectator mode, they can have the option to leave without forcibly being kicked which stops them coming back.

[clear palm]

that is an actual good idea

[harsh crane]

Yeah, not perfect though cause if they wanted to play but just didn’t ready up in time. Plus I find it’s more common that everyone is ready, the host is just taking forever to start even when its draft with no settings to adjust.

[granite wave]

i think it would be very good if you can infect anybody in vents and closets and bushes as pigeon so that mechanic cant stall forever because it feels very bad when playing pigeon

[tawny breach]

maybe this isn't the best place to report a bug, but after the game update I just can't log in
I put the email. Loads infinity and does not enter

[mellow iris]

#troubleshooting-and-bug-reports you can submit a ticket there

[tawny breach]

Thanks

[solemn moon]

The voting time is too fast, could you plz increase it appropriately? Or user-defined

[gaunt thistle]

The limited time is part of the core gameplay

[rich dagger]

Discussion and voting time can both be adjusted in Classic

[ancient pumice]

Don't underutilize the text chat. Think of it as a global notebook. You can't rewind voice chat, but you can take a look at said notebook for clues whenever it's available.

Always put important things there, even if you have a mic.

[rich dagger]

I like putting info there during opening statement and see who is actually reading it

[ancient pumice]

Plus, it's a lot quicker to verbally say "Check the chat" than "SUSSYQUACKBIRDERER KILLED AVIANCARCASS163936926 IN THAT ROOM WITH THAT TASK WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT THING WHERE IT GOES"

[rich dagger]

The shrine of the silver monkey?

[rare flame]

I'm of two minds about this. On one hand, I do think being able to sneeze on someone who is hiding in the same spot as you would be good. On the other, that opens up asking why ducks can't kill the engineer there, and that would be bad.

[solemn moon]

Some of my favorite streamers love your game , but I realized they didn't have enough time to discuss and identify.
They will speak in order, so they may need partners to speak systematically and so on to prove their identity, or to speak at the end to unify the right to vote.]

[solemn moon]

It’s a mainline gameplay in China. The limited time is too messy for streamers , everyone talks like a rapper.and subscribers are confused.

[rich dagger]

Your feedback is appreciated and has been noted. The devs will take it under consideration.

[solemn moon]

Thank you

[gaunt thistle]

Thank you, however I am not affiliated with Gaggle. Just another community member like yourself

[granite wave]

i think ducks should be able to kill enginer for sure, maybe something like hitman can throw smoke grenade in that will kill you if you stay inside for more than 3 second

[gaunt thistle]

Sabotages fill this need.
Engineer will lose if they don't get out and fix it

[granite wave]

i dont think so because if you are only goose alive ducks will have won

i actually now think ii would be very useful for hitman if they can throw in grenade in hiding places and they can then reactivate to smoke out everybody in vents after 5 seconds and it also fits thematically imo

[rich dagger]

As I understand it, the Warlock may function similar to this when they summon locusts to a room

[granite wave]

is that new role?

[rare flame]

For the Ancient Sands map, yes

[rich dagger]

Yep, was talked about briefly during Friday's developer log stream

[granite wave]

nice very cool

i wish it would be added to other maps then too

[rich dagger]

We don't know yet whether it will be exclusive to Ancient Sands, but it might be

[granite wave]

i jsut think hitman needs love because he does not do much imo now, but it is fun to hunt somebody but it feels like something is missing

but i will wait and see

[rare flame]

The description of the role is somewhat vague, but it can kill anyone inside certain houses on that map. That wouldn't translate well to most of the other maps because of the way they are laid out. We also don't know where all the hiding spots will be in said maps. Maybe an engineer could duck out and avoid the scarab swarm.

[rich dagger]

You don't know that it wouldn't work well on other maps. Each map has clearly defined locations that update as you cross thresholds into another section. Would really just depend on if the devs think it would be fun and balanced in prior maps

[rare flame]

As I currently understand it, the ability relies on being able to lock players into the room to kill them, since it takes 15 seconds for it to happen. Sure, I could see, say, Medical and Security on Mother Goose being viable targets, but there's also a lot of open rooms where people could easily escape.

If the devs can find room on other maps for an equivalent, awesome! They're more creative than I am in this respect.

[sage carbon]

no engineer

RIP

[mellow iris]

Goosechapel has rooms like that, but who knows what the future will bring

and let's be honest, most lobbies will be desert sands for at least a month after it releases anyways XD

[rare flame]

A month feels like a conservate estimate. :p

[mellow iris]

I prefer to be conservative

when it comes to estimates at any rate

[granite wave]

Whether an option of unlimited discussion time can be added？

Two anchors with 20 million fans are troubled by too short voting time

CN players are used to state their analysis with lot of time one by one in the voting time

maybe... how about no time limit like Among us?

For some reason, they can't play Among us. So this is a good opportunity to let more Chinese players know your game.

Player groups in different regions have different habits, hope you guys can adopt it.

Sorry for bother you and thank for your reply.

good luck to you.

[sage carbon]

where are these anchors streaming?

[lethal bear]

in China

一条小团团OvO and 芜湖大司马丶

Yeah, about a million weekly active viewers. We all found out yesterday that they can't play well in this game. Because the speaking session is short.

douyu TV

[granite wave]

Here is the link：https://www.douyu.com/2222 https://www.douyu.com/606118

[lethal bear]

My Internet is not good

[granite wave]

You can watch their live replay

[sage carbon]

i don't know how much douyu numbers can be trusted, but i will talk to the team regardless

[granite wave]

They also have tens of millions of fans in Tiktok.

[lethal bear]

In the ranking of game anchors, they should be two of the five most popular game anchors in China, one of which is currently the most popular Douyu. And Douyu is one of the two largest live-streaming platforms in China, majority-owned by Tencent.

Many viewers want to express, but there may be network restrictions. We also appreciate your response.

[gaunt thistle]

I personally do not trust tik tok followers. 98% of my followers are bot accounts and not actual people.

The numbers are vastly inflated

[sage carbon]

@granite wave @lethal bear do you two have any friends that are having trouble signing up for the game? like issues with email verification

[lethal bear]

I had to turn on the vpn on my phone while I was confirming the verification link for the email. But VPNS are banned in China, and many people are bothered by the link.

When I use discord in China, I have to turn on a VPN.

I think it would be better to use Verification code.like 123456

I think it would be better to use Verification code.like 123456

We can legally log in to your game using Game Accelerator, but we can't use VPN when confirming email links.

The email can be received, but the confirmation link requires a VPN.

[sage carbon]

What is the 'Game Accelerator'?

Is it different from a VPN?

[long bison]

Would there be a referral system in future updates?

[gaunt thistle]

Referral for what

[late spear]

@long bison is wondering about referral program for rewards for getting new players to join ggd

[zealous light]

Is it just me or does anyone else think it would be nice if we can have a bigger lobby, more then 16?

[rare flame]

It would be nice, but it's hard to get a word in edgewise even on 16. There's also technical issues to take into account.

[rich dagger]

The main technical barrier would be the bandwidth needed for more data to be transmitted. The current requirements are already tight for some users with lower connection speeds.

[lethal bear]

When we play a foreign game, most of the time we need to turn on the game accelerator. The game accelerator only works for this game progression. Turning on a vpn on your computer will allow you to access the entire computer or mobile network, allowing you to view Twitter,YouTube and other foreign websites. But using such VPNS is not legal in China.

The Chinese market has many of these legitimate game accelerators. It's like a vpn that only works for games.

So to verify the email during the game, I think the player from China is a better choice. Email to obtain the verification code, enter the verification code in the game for verification.

[frank night]

We have now changed the verification page, if it fails to validate, you can manually type in your email address to validate it. This essentially makes it use a different Web page getting around the blocked sites.

[lethal bear]

I just tried to verify this link without using a VPN. When I click the blue button, nothing happens. I don't know if this is a problem for most Chinese players.

[frank night]

Did it request an email? Could you possibly create a ticket in #troubleshooting-and-bug-reports so we can talk a bit more privately as we are trying to work out a way for this to no longer be an issue for players in China

[lethal bear]

I'm not familiar with using dicord.

When I use my phone, nothing happens when I click the blue button.

[hazy pivot]

Try scrolling down on that page

There might be more to help

[hazy pivot]

Hmm fully clear your cache and try reloading

possibly try on desktop?

[rare flame]

Been toying with the idea for how a dead goose could help their team now that all dead tasks are fake, and I think I came up with something that's possibly acceptable. When a dead goose has finished 8 tasks, the task bar updates.

In anticipation of objections, I have responses for a few situations:
If a live goose has finished 8 or more tasks before death, the task bar won't update until 5 seconds after death.
In a classic game when the task bar is hidden, the total tasks will light up for 2 seconds before hiding again.
In a classic game where the task bar always updates, it doesn't matter because a live goose could just prove they did a task.

[granite wave]

I have a question will u guys ever give the ghost roles or never and why?

[low lion]

Because of role reveal, there will never be roles that can communicate to living players after death. The original medium could see ghosts, but that was changed.

[rare flame]

Before the task pool, dead geese still had to do their tasks, just like in Among Us. Now, with dead tasks being fake, there's nothing productive they can do once dead.

If you can think of something they can do that doesn't give too much information to the living, feel free to suggest it.

[ornate meteor]

Add:
Haunting chat

Press or hold a button as a ghost to talk/haunt the people whom you're near
EDIT: Only the Ducks can hear the ghosts

~~Roles Reveal on Death game rule

When checked, all roles are revealed to the gosts on player death~~

Fix:

Fix Comms sabatoge to be like the wiring on Controller, press A To drop the chip on the square. Next chip will automatically be selected from upper left to lower right

[dire tendon]

That second one is already a thing

[ornate meteor]

Wait on Death?

[dire tendon]

yup

I mean, I'm assuming you mean the person themselves dying yes

there is an option to see all the player's roles when dead

[gray latch]

• Haunting chat
  Just tell someone who killed you, now winning as duck is near impossible
• Roles Reveal on Death
  Already exists
• Conroller Fix
  I don't play controller so idk

[ornate meteor]

Oh then one sec

I have another idea tho if it hasn't been added already

Role Stealer

Steal anyone's role, giving them the swaping role, and giving you the victims role, default cooldown is 30 seconds, but can be adjustable
EDIT: If you shift with a duck you die

[ornate meteor]

Ok let me edit the first one

[cerulean quest]

Hey, I just suggested a role, can we add it? No. Your idea is interesting, but it breaks one or all of the rules listed in the following document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JHySGkJPkCGyTxHyU1jK7XAptCkam79RRgt_j-TFOY4/edit?usp=sharing . Feel free to give it a read if you want some insight into the roles that we would approve of

[gray latch]

Hey what happened to helpbot? I miss them

[cerulean quest]

HelpBot is currently on a short vacation, so we are stepping in to help

[rich dagger]

A well-deserved vacation too!

[rare flame]

Just to highlight the issue, team-swapping is a mechanic that will never happen, at least in Classic-style formats. No one wants their objectives changed halfway through the game. Other modes, like Trick or Treat, might have different rules.

[ornate meteor]

Let me edit THAT one

[mellow iris]

[ornate meteor]

If you shift with a duck, you'd die

[mellow iris]

mind the spelling mimi

[ornate meteor]

Sorry I meant DUCK lol

[mellow iris]

yes, i know, which is why i'm laughing instead of timing you out lol

it happens to a lot of people though, fingers dont' always listen to the brain

but ability stealing is also covered in the role document

[ornate meteor]

Yeah, what are you going to do is they don't? 🤣

[gray latch]

You haven't seen the time I horribly misspelled shot when saying "the vigi shot him" and caused the entire lobby to fall apart lol.

[ornate meteor]

Oop

[mellow iris]

yes, but it's simple things like that, and how easily people fall apart over funny things, that make the party duck one of the best duck roles for getting away with things

but we are off of this being about ideas now XD, also we have #🐣︱classic-role-ideas for role suggestions btw

[granite wave]

A we get quest or some other the just achievement

Or emote

[gray latch]

Emotes may be a bit distracting during gameplay.

[harsh thistle]

日本人の方いませんかー！
一緒やりたーい！

[late spear]

!lfg @harsh thistle

ok bot isnt working but go to #lfg-language and select your language and it will open your language channel

[granite wave]

Fart are not distracting they make us laugh

[rare flame]

I have no idea what "we get" means.

[granite wave]

I meant can we get quest miscommunication

[gaunt thistle]

I believe there was once mention of daily quests or objectives on one of the developer streams.
Very little was said about it other than it was something they'd like to do.

So maybe, will have to wait and see

[gleaming swallow]

Would be nice if we saw when host kicked someone..
Instead of "player xxx left the game" would be "player xxx has been kicked by host"
Cause some hosts are kicking people just for getting killed in game and it would be nice to know our host is doing that.

[sage carbon]

Hmm, I think that's a reasonable request

[pale reef]

The way the devlog explained the new crafting system, the claw machines are only going to be at the lounge. Would they also be added directly in the collection tab just for the convenience of not needing to create/join a lobby to use your tokens?

[sage carbon]

no you need to get to the claw machines

[rich dagger]

If you could access them from anywhere, Duck E Cheese would go out of business

[ancient ginkgo]

Seems like a fun challenge

Yea. And Dave and duckers

[pastel epoch]

Achievement idea for Demolitionist.

Pass a bomb to Pelican, get eaten by Pelican, Pelican is killed by bomb, you go free.

It just happened in our game organically and it was AMAZING.

[granite wave]

Achievements ideas:

“I am the spy”: as a spy duck manage to see everyone’s role(with or without the duck’s roles too)

[rich dagger]

Maybe instead: Reveal twenty different roles as Spy

Since you can only reveal one role per meeting, it is practically impossible to reveal everyone's role in a game without playing specifically to get that achievement

[granite wave]

huh…you got a point

Unless it’s a slow game

[rare flame]

And this already exists, except it's 50 times the ability is successful

[worthy tangle]

Achievement: Spicy Aftertaste

As Demolitionist, have your bomb kill the pelican while you are inside of it.

I love it

[rich dagger]

That's not at all what I said

[mellow iris]

With one you just have to use the ability successfully, the other you have to reveal 20 different roles

quite different

[rare flame]

Ah, yes. Subtle difference

[gray mountain]

Hi all, question sorry if this is the wrong place... Is there a way to create, or buy, a customized skin ONLY for you?

[ancient ginkgo]

I wish

[gray latch]

There is not. The only reason toonz and their gang got one-of-a-kind cosmetics was as a thanks from gaggle for collabing with them.

[ancient ginkgo]

That makes sense

[gray mountain]

Gotcha! Thank you, I really wish this was an option. It would be so cool!

[ancient ginkgo]

Yea

[gray latch]

Ther was a poll a long while ago asking people of they wanted unique cosmetics availible only to them which was voted in favor of yes. That doesn't mean it is guarenteed to happen, just that most people would be down for it too.

[gray mountain]

Ooo... Where do these votes take place? I'd love to participate in the future

[gray latch]

#polls

They do not happen often, which makes it a bit of a big deal when they do happen

[ancient ginkgo]

Poll on discord. I just learned about it 30 secs ago

[gray mountain]

You're awesome man, I appreciate you!!

[ancient ginkgo]

Who?

[rich dagger]

Generally, the problem with everyone having custom skins is that every person would need those image files in their game. Not a big deal when it's a few creators with custom skins. But if you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of custom skins, then the download size of the app gets prohibitively large for many mobile devices.

[ancient ginkgo]

That makes sense

[rich dagger]

Also, the cost for a small team to moderate such a system to prevent inappropriate skins would be significant

[granite wave]

Please partner with makeship again! the plushies were so amazing. ❤️

[ancient ginkgo]

Plushies? That sounds cool

[pale reef]

I would KILL for a dodo plushie

[floral berry]

sus

[ancient pumice]

I always thought a Thrall plushie would be cool, too 😄

[gray latch]

A pelican or vulture plushie that you can feed

[pale reef]

Wouldn't that just be a puppet?

[gray latch]

It would be closer to a fluffy, huggable backpack than a puppet.

Of course you could climb inside and puppetier it that way

[ancient ginkgo]

Or a mummy plush

[granite wave]

Have it to where you can pull up a map during meetings. For example, a new player joins. Someone reports a body. They say "bla bla bla". How do they know where "bla bla bla" is? This would be very useful.

[mellow iris]

you can pull up the map at the start of meetings

[opal crane]

Why not for the whole meeting?

[gray latch]

Because then people don't vote because they were too busy looking at the map

[opal crane]

Ah! I see

I do still feel like the map should be available past conversation into voting, maybe for an additional 50% of voting time or something

[sage carbon]

you can increase the discussion timer and decrease the voting timer

[opal crane]

Valid point, me and my friends aren’t very spontaneous voters though so we generally lower the discussion timer so that we can vote as soon as we’re ready, it would be nice to have the option to view the map, although admittedly it’s not usually an issue

[low mirage]

it'd be nice to have a waiting queue option for public lobbies, so players can spectate games, chat in lobby, and guarantee a spot in the lobby when enough players leave (but host can disable queue)

[granite wave]

for draft i think that if one person pick goose then it should add lover duck or goose to be picked so that they are lover with the person who picked goose

[mellow iris]

so basically, you want to force someone else to be lover even if they don't want the role

[scarlet sparrow]

Adventurer can't be killed by a map hazard, technically the fog in Jungle Temple could be considered a map hazard. Maybe make Adventurer a light Engineer in Jungle Temple map?

[mellow iris]

except it isn't a deadly hazard which is what the adventurer avoids. if a goose could just walk into the fog it would be very disadvantageous to the ducks

besides, if you want a goose that can walk in the fog there is always the mimic

[scarlet sparrow]

Fair enough, just a thought. Thank you!

[mellow iris]

That would allow both the medium and the astral to confirm each other's roles

[opal crane]

Or it could be a great cover story for two ducks

And it would only allow the medium to confirm astral, not vice versa

[mellow iris]

you could easily, as astral, ask the medium to tell you what pattern you were moving in, and you are both confirmed

[opal crane]

Any role can confirm astral through that logic by having them stand really far away, then doing a movement pattern and having the astral relay it

[mellow iris]

and having 2 roles confirmed is a lot more powerful than just having one

[opal crane]

True, good point

[low lion]

I’m not sure how hard this would be to code into the game, but this is the only way I can see Lovers and Hitman working with Draft.

Hitman and one Lover are a part of the draft pool. If you are the first player given the option for Hitman or Lover and you select it, you are provided that role and an alternative role. The alternative role is temporarily removed from the pool, and the second half of the role is added to the pool (lover goose or Bodyguard). Players will see that you selected random. Optional for consistency: you can random into Hitman or Lover as the first player getting a half. If no one else picks the second half, you get the alternate role.

If a second player selects lover goose or Bodyguard, the alternate role selected by the first player would be added back to the pool. The second player’s role would show as selected (not random). Further, for consistency, a player could random into Lover goose or Bodyguard if the first half is chosen.

Other stipulations: The alternate for Hitman or Lover Duck would have to be a duck role. The other alternate roles should be goose roles (heaven forbid an alternate dodo/dueling situation). For simplicity, it might be better to just have lover geese, not lover duck/goose. It may also be smart to only have Hitman in the pool, since the ducks are normally the first few chosen anyway (no Bodyguard on player 1 situation).

More technical stuff: you would only see the alternate role after selecting Lover or Hitman. This would allow the space for a dialogue explaining that which role you get is reliant on the choice of other players. If a second player selects the role, the first player’s UI changes to the normal UI showing “you have selected Hitman – Kill to get a bonus. Your tasks are fake." While it would be nice for the alternate role to show ahead of time, I'm not sure it would fit on the UI.

I think this would be simple enough for players to understand, and it would be one of those situations where the player given the option sees something different while other players are in the dark. This solves the issue of forcing a player to pick a role, and I could see this working. Even if someone didn’t understand it at first, they would understand it after seeing it once or twice.

[dire tendon]

So if someone selects Lover (from the usual 3 choices), that alternative role would essentially still be forced on them right?

Assuming there's no second person picking Lover

I appreciate the idea, though. I will admit I miss Bodyguard/Hitman in particular

[pastel epoch]

There’s the possibility of forcing dueling dodos on the person who chose dodo already

[mellow iris]

the difference being that dueling dodos are not 100% reliant on each other to win. And someone can choose dueling or not. If someone picked lover than another person would be FORCED against their will to be the other half of that. So in a sense, you are comparing apples to oranges there

[pastel epoch]

I agree with the reliance point. However, you’re still forcing a dodo to now duel for the role when they didn’t choose that at the beginning.
So maybe apples and crabapples

[low lion]

That's the whole point of my proposition. No one is forced to pick the second role, and there's a backup if no one does. I mean, randoming into a role isn't being forced, as you chose not to pick one of the other three options. For the first player, it would be a lot like picking random with the possibility of getting Lover or Hitman instead. I think it might be a good idea to do a poll to see if players even want to see these roles in draft. This just seemed like the most feasible and fair way to make it work, as I know some players would like to see these roles in Draft.

[low lion]

Yes, but I would say it's more akin to picking random.

[zealous light]

anyone else think that the mimic should be able to kill if witnessing a murder? like avenger

[mellow iris]

Not really, that would be pretty overpowered if they could both hide from the ducks and kill them

[blissful turtle]

could we switch back to previous versions of the home screen and theme if we like a particular version better?

[frank night]

You may want to get the best titrate when it comes out

[rich dagger]

That's definitely being considered for a future update

[granite wave]

Why can’t the trick or treat be in jungle temple?

so that the mummy monster be in there

…since mummy is now mad because of people trying to loot their place

[gray latch]

Well there are neither vents nor hiding spots in the temple, which may or may not have something to do with it.

Though I do not play ToT enough to even notice Temple is disabled for that mode.

[rich dagger]

Trick or Treat is currently only available on the Ducktorian maps (Manor, Goosechapel, Basement)

[clear palm]

If somebody isn't ready for a long period of time there unready option will be replaced with spectater. this does not remove the readying it just replaces the unready with spectator so people could actually enjoy the game instead of yelling at a person saying ready up

[gaunt thistle]

Not a bad idea, however there is already a 5 minute inactivity timer that works for most situations

At least I think it's 5 minutes
Might be 3

[clear palm]

ok I just never knew that

and I just got annoyed

[gaunt thistle]

It's definitely a good idea. Some players might be dead for a long time so go to the bathroom or something as the game ends

[rich dagger]

There should be a spicy Ramen server emoji

[low lion]

The Pelican would just eat all the spicy ramen

[rare flame]

There's more spicy ramen than the pelican can eat alone. Yes, I know what I'm saying here.

[gusty sphinx]

Next thing you know there will be a spicy ramen god 😂

[quartz arrow]

That’s the narcoleptic goose at his full power

[honest imp]

any way to upvote this?? i really miss lovers on draft mode

[mellow iris]

The devs read everything so no need for an upvoting system really

[sterile carbon]

I believe you post it in here soo I wanted to ask if we can have a Christmas update for tot but the Christmas version mummy whod look like samta Thralls are elf and for vamp idk I'll leave it to the brilliant mind of the community

[undone pewter]

holiday events maybe

[rare flame]

What sort of holiday events would you want to see?

[undone pewter]

christmas maybe

[rare flame]

That's the when, but how would the event go?

[undone pewter]

well i love to have a duck role that is krampus

[dire tendon]

I could see Undertaker being modified to look as Santa, dragging bodies in a red bag rather than just holding a corpse

[undone pewter]

ye like krampus

[dire tendon]

ye

[gray latch]

People often complain about not getting a good number in draft mode, or that they did get a good number but were offered 3 "undesirable" roles. My suggestion is this:

At the start of the draft, players are assigned a faction (goose, duck, neutral) and then a number. For example, I have been assigned Neutral 2, so I will be the second neutral player to pick. The pick order will start with Ducks 1 - 3, then Neutrals 1 - 3, and end with Geese 1 - 10 assuming it is a 16 player lobby.

I do not deny this isn't perfect, for example it is more complex and being locked as Goose 9 or 10 is just as potentially frustrating if not more frustrating than being player 16.

But this was a system I thought might work well.

[rare flame]

Then people will complain about getting goose. Also, some people don't want to play ducks and wouldn't want to be forced into that role.

[young peak]

I think I'd be nice if the host could see other players' ready status in the player menu to avoid accidental kicking if players are stacked around them.

[low lion]

The problem is, there are always going to be players with undesirable roles in a full, or even semi-full lobby. Depending on who you ask, they may say there are only 5-7, maybe 10 roles that they would really want to play. The main point of draft is to allow players more control in their roles. I rarely feel forced into a role, but also your number is not the only determining factor. People have gotten basic goose on 1 and Pelican on 16, I've even seen a duck past 10.

[mellow iris]

I've got pelican on 13

[undone pewter]

Have players report each other for cheaters and hackers

[sage carbon]

you can report players in the settings

have you encountered a hacker?

[undone pewter]

No but I dealt with teamers but I don’t see a report option anywheres

Is it out of lobby then?

Bcs I couldn’t report in lobby I couldn’t find it

I don’t get it where is the report option at

I really want to report these kids

[mellow iris]

In private games it is up to the room host to police their lobby. You can report in public lobbies

[undone pewter]

Should have a report button ingame and outside of lobbies

[sage carbon]

there is

[rich dagger]

Report button is in the player settings in public games

[gaunt thistle]

I think what they're saying is it only appears when in lobby, not in game

[undone pewter]

Ye

[trail agate]

My GGD lags a lot so any way to take the graphics down or no especial effects would be Appreciated

[gray latch]

I don't think this is really for #💡︱general-ideas .

[mellow iris]

@granite wave I'm asking you nicely, please take a moment to read the #rules . Also please do not post content into random channels that have nothing to do with the topic

[young aurora]

If you guys make a skin like this, I guarantee it will sell well in China. The key elements are his Centre parting hairstyle and overalls. I've already figured out a name for it. "ji ni tai mei"

[sage carbon]

Cai Xukun?

[young aurora]

yes, he has many fans in china, and this outfit become a trend. it's well known in china.

[sage carbon]

I don't think we can steal KUN's face without his permission lol

[mellow iris]

stealing people's faces is frowned on in most cultures

[young aurora]

Just imitate his clothing and hairstyle

[gaunt thistle]

That may also be frowned upon if it's his signature style and he's well known for it

[young aurora]

ok

[dire tendon]

memes text channel pls

[mellow iris]

once upon a time there was a memes channel, but people couldn't behave, the moderators were getting tired of policing it, so it got removed

[rich dagger]

[undone pewter]

gaming bots?

[undone pewter]

duck/goose selfie channel?

[undone pewter]

events?

[cerulean quest]

#📷︱photo-gallery #🎨︱fan-art are good places to show off your birds. Winter cosmetics coming soon

[undone pewter]

kewl

[analog nimbus]

Ayo

[granite wave]

Is the server down?

[low yarrow]

back up for me

[granite wave]

No

[granite wave]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[gray latch]

There are things you can do in a private lobby that cannot be done in a public one. Being able to swap between the two could end up being used to bypass those things. There is a setting to "lock" the lobby, meaning you have to use the code to get in which does the same job though.

[blissful turtle]

group kicking. if a player is being obnoxious during game and the host either can't or doesn't know how to kick, people can group vote to kick a player.

[undone pewter]

Oooooo yes great idea dude

[blissful turtle]

i will defintely admit i do some trolling behavior, but it's not anything like slurs. just audio of a toilet on max volume.

[undone pewter]

Friend codes channel

[rare flame]

In public lobbies, there is already a method to report players being abusive. I heard that if enough people report them, they will be kicked automatically, but I've never tested that to confirm.

In private lobbies, presumably the host will decide what the standard for the lobby would be. If someone is being loud or offensive and the host decides to allow it, it might be best to find a different room.

[versed dawn]

Please can you sell plushies of the thralls

with the shiny eyes as plastic so they actually shine

I NEED

[rich dagger]

That would be amazing!

[formal agate]

Suggestion for an achievement. “Going Vegan” - Report 200 bodies as vulture.

[rich dagger]

I believe in general, achievements don't want to encourage gameplay that would result in atypical behavior

[formal agate]

Completely fair! It would require choosing not to try for the win over several games. It popped into my head and made me laugh was all.

[rich dagger]

I could see that being a neat achievement for reporting one body as Vulture maybe

[gaunt thistle]

Glow in the dark eyes?

[blissful turtle]

another achievement idea
"instant regret" self report 100 bodies

[rare flame]

There are definitely times you might want to report bodies as a vulture, like getting caught standing over a body.

[rich dagger]

Sure, but to do it over 100 times is a pretty unlikely situation that would require playing the role abnormally to achieve.

[blissful turtle]

fair point.

[tender ocean]

Ahh, just wanna know if you guys are still in need of more support for Chinese community. I am a native Chinese speaker and understand English. (I have a bachelor degree in translation) Currently being an active goose. Let me know if you need help with translating ingame texts or announcements/patch notes into Chinese. Guess I'm better than Google translate, lol

[sage carbon]

help is always welcome, i'll dm you

[undone pewter]

other gamemode role idea channels

[granite wave]

i suggested before where if you pick the normal goose role in draft then it could mean it open up for lovers because like dodo if somebody else pick dodo / goose or normal duck then it will result in dueling dodo / lover geese or ducks, but what if when somebody picks normal goose it opens up for hitman too? it means that normal goose is converted to bodyguard which is not very different from normal goose, and this way goose becomes more exciting to pick because it becomes a role that can be converted to another role once everybody is finished with picking roles

[gaunt thistle]

When I pick Goose, it is with the exclusive reasoning that I cannot be assassinated

Changing my role takes that away from me

[granite wave]

i thought you could still be assassinated as goose cant you?

[rare flame]

A goose that has no special role cannot be assassinated. If you have a role though like Engineer Goose, you can be assassinated.

[gray latch]

Normal Goose and Gravy Goose cannot be assassinated

[lean minnow]

Achievement System?
Win 20 games as a nerdy bird ----- king of nerdy birds

[rare flame]

That would be fine if there was a nerdy bird, but there isn't currently.

[gray latch]

All the roles do have at least 1 achievement along this line, though it is 75 games.

[dire crow]

Locksmith should be able to open closed doors during closed door sabo

[gaunt thistle]

This has been asked for multiple times.
There are certain balance reasons why the locksmith cannot

In the next map, we will get the street urchin, who can open doors from the inside.
Look forward to it and don't forget to check this week's developer log.

[ancient pumice]

"That guy just opened the door that was closed by the door sab, so he's 100% goose since they're literally the only role that can do that. They couldn't possibly be lying." -Goosey McGoose, watching the not-Locksmith open a door, to the dismay of the duck that closed the door via sabotage

[granite wave]

“What does this button do?”: as a dodo win the game when you called the meeting(you could do it first round but you can do any other rounds)

“something is wrong with my stomach”: as a pelican devour 4 people and manage to call a meeting

“Why am I still here, just to suffer”: die 1000 times by ducks/geese killing/pelican/falcon

[versed sedge]

Why not in a game or in some social network (for example Discord), make some kind of rating (top), by level, by kills, etc
I'm just wondering what place I would take, with my 356 level)

[mellow iris]

The issue I see with that is actually one of the issues we had when the levels system was first introduced. People were using them as a sort of metagame that influenced their opinion on a player while in game.

[hazy pivot]

We could do a plugin for discord that gets your level 🙂

[versed sedge]

A good idea)

[versed sedge]

And you can make a bot that, on command, will show the top players)

[gaunt thistle]

I at least appreciated it. It was nice to know when you were playing with brand new players so you could help them, rather than treating them as if they've got 1000 hours in the game and know every possible situation, secret, game play, etc

[mellow iris]

There are two sides to every coin. Not everyone is as nice as you though

[dire crow]

and here I show the street urchin

[gaunt thistle]

Street Urchin is slightly confirmable, yes.
I say slightly because some rooms in the new map have multiple doors. The door unlocking and you exiting doesn't necessarily mean you unlocked it.

The other part of it is that as with all current confirmanle goose roles, they rely on a duck or map specific gameplay element in some way, like a duck locking the doors in the first place.

[gray latch]

Also without the urchin, the warlock would be extremely strong.

[gaunt thistle]

Warlock cannot lock doors
November dev log noted that the only sabotage warlock has is locusts.

[granite wave]

What if as party duck, you can party someone, but if they die it tells you they died so you can party another?

[rare flame]

Only if the silencer can also get a refund on their ability.

[gray latch]

I think the crocodile in ancient sands should work like the boiler and river in basement, where someone killed here it are pushed in and eaten by the croc, disposing of the body. Alternatively the undertaker can bring it more food.

[pale reef]

Could we be able to see our token counts outside of the machines? I get having to be there to "craft" but I could see it being annoying to creating a lobby just to haul it to duck e cheese's to see your balance

[rare flame]

True. I didn't even think about the crafting tab being deleted until now. Just a tab to see the token inventory would be nice.

[scarlet coral]

Will there ever be an option to "favorite" cosmetics so that we don't have to scroll through the entire closet of our purchases everytime we want to switch around our preferred/main pieces?

[rich dagger]

They mentioned on the devlog today that they are looking at giving the cosmetics collection an overhaul where it could be sortable or etc. Didn't go into specifics or a timeframe

[scarlet coral]

That's good enough for me, as long as it's being considered.

[clear palm]

In the ancient Sands map the vulture has a huge Advantage because the map is too big and hard to find bodies can you make it so that vulture needs to eat more bodies to win

[gray latch]

It takes a while for people to figure out new maps. Give people a chance to figure things out and who knows. Maybe the vulture will end up being weaker.

[mellow iris]

a good portion of the maps give the vulture good luck at the start. but as people figure out the map more and where bodies might lie it gets harder. plus you can always blame the ducks for not setting a trap for the vulture

[gray latch]

A soundroom. Where you can listen to the various music and sfx in the game. Perhaps it could be an addition to The Lounge as a jukebox.

[clear palm]

If your event kicked it will not show the lobby that you're kicked from earlier

[magic yarrow]

@spare jewel

Looking for a group to play with?

Select your language in #lfg-language to access your language's LFG channel, and then post a code there or join a game.

[snow thunder]

I think more customization for fun/silly proposes would be some listed here for example:
- Assassin shots can now shot anyone including their own ducks without consequences (Private lobby only, for chaotic/fun proposes)
- Black and White Mode (like invis has but for everyone, Private lobby only)
And much more!

Just some ideas I had for Private lobbies only for lots of customization for fun, chaotic, silly and cool ideas/features!

[hazy pivot]

We have some ideas for this

Like the person who kills the Canadian gets kicked out of the game.

lol

[granite wave]

Now that’s what happened if you kill a endangered species

[snow thunder]

🤣

now thats an idea lol

[uneven steeple]

Can you make it that was can see people's roles when we are dead in draft

[rare flame]

If the host has turned on Role Reveal, you should be able to see roles once you're dead. However, public lobbies cannot turn on Role Reveal.

[solar tendon]

Pelican on the new map? 😄

[rare flame]

Maybe in time. It'd be sad if a full pelican died to the mummy, though. Since it has no cooldown, everyone in the stomach would die, too.

[mellow iris]

that would be hilarious to watch though

[rare flame]

Imagine the mortician finding it afterwards.

[rich dagger]

You'll have to settle for Pelican on two maps for now

[gray latch]

Everyone knows the real reason pelican can't be in ancient sands is because pelican would just eat the mummy.

[sage carbon]

i originally thought of the pelican as an idea for ancient sands

even before it was known as the ancient sands map

but it seemed like a better fit for the basement

[gray latch]

Falcons are more fitting for an egyptian map anyway, honestly

[sage carbon]

i actually found the pelican because i was looking for what birds were found in egypt

[low lion]

I'm glad I noticed this. I had no idea Pelican was added to SS Mothergoose.

[gray latch]

It was a surprise announcement during the Q&A

[rich dagger]

Yep, was on the dev stream

[low lion]

I really need to watch the vlog. I was travelling while it was streamed.

[gray latch]

With how little I had played MG, I wouldn't have known if I didn't watch it.

[low lion]

A lot of the space maps don't see much play anymore. I understand that they pale in comparison for most players, but I love them deeply. It was only Mothergoose and Blackswan when I started.

[rich dagger]

Will be interesting to have more people try spacing the Pelican with birds in its belly.

[low lion]

So any birds in the belly will die, then?

[rich dagger]

Someone earlier said that the Pelican got spaced and the birds inside were left alive but I haven't tried it myself

[low lion]

I'm just trying to figure out how that would work thematically.

[rich dagger]

#💬︱general message

[abstract citrus]

Hi. I really wish I could preview the killing animations in the menu instead of image of it. Would be really nice to see it fully.
Cause we really don't see them unless someone kills you lol.

[void gust]

A preview of all death stingers, including environmental would be neat.
But then again I find environmental death stingers more fun if you experience them yourself.

[rare flame]

Not sure if you'd want to implement this, but let the Detective still see the icons in meetings? Clearly they won't update, but it would be helpful for reference later.

[low lion]

I mean, it's sort of the Detective's responsibility to remember who they checked. I also think having the symbol in meetings could drive the idea that anyone with a halo is hard-cleared, which is often false. I think the way it works now helps reinforce the idea that the detected player is only clear at the time you're checking.

[dire tendon]

Yeah, gotta agree with Danero on that one. The halo's from previous checks could give the detective a false sense of security.

[sleek plover]

Will we have 16 spawn location for every single-player in a map? Cause the present mechanic are 3 or 4 role spawn in 1 location, so the player will notice that 1, 2 are duck or 3rd role

[rich dagger]

[mellow iris]

Actually players will assume that they are a duck role, that isn't true at all. Players are scattered randomly and that is a matter of odds

[gray latch]

It is about as likely to be true as the steriotype of "red is always sus"

[sleek plover]

In my experience, that spawn 3 or 4, surely that have 1 duck or 1 3rd role, if another legit together, that the left one will be vote, or killed by sheriff, civil defender

[mellow iris]

then that is on the players making poor choices and is just as likely to get innocent players voted off or killed

[sleek plover]

My personal opinion, that the higher level will play by the mechanic, not play as logic

[mellow iris]

again, that is a misguided effort on their part. A simple way to avoid this would be simply to set the lobby so that everyone spawns in one spot

[gray latch]

A superstition that's gonna do more harm than good

[gaunt thistle]

In general, if you have 16 players, and we imagine there are 5 spawn spots (making it about 3 players per spawn area), the chances only seem high that you'll have a duck amongst the group because out of those 16 players, 4 to 5 players are killers (assuming falcon/pelican or duelling dodos).

That is one 'bad' role per spawn, but that falsely assumes the game balances where the roles spawn, which it does not. There is nothing stopping every single bad role spawning together and all the other good roles spawning in other places.

[mellow iris]

I have had several games where all three ducks spawned in the same spot

[gaunt thistle]

I can concur, I've had more than my share of games where I've spawned with both my duck partners, the Falcon, and some other neutral

[mellow iris]

tbh, if i had players in my lobby that were trying to use that meta, i'd toss them from the game

[sleek plover]

These are just suggestions to improve the gameplay. We just want to get rid of this meta !!!

[gaunt thistle]

Thats understandable, but we're trying to let you know this meta doesn't exist, its a misconception

[sage carbon]

well, the meta is real, its just held by this player and the people they play with

they are going to do more damage than not, but thats on them

[granite wave]

Achievements idea:

“There’s work to be done”: as mortician find 3 bodies and investigate them in 1 game

“Peace is always the option”: as a falcon win the game without killing anyone

“A oddball in the group”: as a mimic, win the game without voting the ducks

“Filthy rich”: as a hitman duck(aka hitduck) kill a gravy and your target

“Love conquers all”: as lovers goose and duck, get a lover win

[fickle plaza]

Add proximity text chat?

[granite wave]

From the looks of history…people asked for it

and that it will be hard for people to both text and focus on the game

[gray latch]

Would more than likely just end up being distracting for both the user trying to type a message, and the listener who has to wait for them to finish.

Even worse if the speech bubble ends up covering something important.

[granite wave]

But the idea of a instant proximity chat would be good

like you know…a menu for a instant chat for: “I’m Medium” or “[insert name here] is a [insert role here]” or “follow me” or something like that

but then again you said something about “speech bubble”

then how will the birds communicate with the other bird?

[gray latch]

Then you are scrolling for a name or a role. I think just playing vc is best if you really want to have proxy.

[granite wave]

You got a good point…

[gaunt thistle]

Can confirm, with over 50 roles so far across all game modes and maps, that's going to be one big list to scroll through

[mellow iris]

NO! I meant to say they are the detective! not the dodo!

detective flying out the airlock

[granite wave]

why would they vote the dodo tho

[mellow iris]

you never know O.O

people are strange

[granite wave]

People doesn’t do that for poor bob

[rich dagger]

Clearly has never played with Xizta

[low lion]

I would vote the dodo

[gray latch]

I would vote for the dodo

As the most tasty.

[sage carbon]

we want to be inclusive in general

but the game is designed in many ways to revolve around proximity voice chat

[worthy tangle]

I also think it could be a good idea to have the language selection for finding games be defaulted to whatever you chose as your language for the Menus.

Mainly because I’ve also had to try and fumble my way around telling people that “this an English lobby, you can change which language you see on the selection menu” through google translate multiple times before

[granite wave]

Trading system, like trading cosmetics between players ? I heard it was gonna happen before so I just wanna know if its still being worked on or if Team decided not to do it in the end?

[low lion]

I can't speak for the team, but they may have decided against this. It could promote silver and gold farming accounts, which would negatively impact the player base.

[granite wave]

Just cosmetics, no golds / silvers, I also though about farming accounts and stuff, thats why cosmetics only

[pastel epoch]

Silver to gold conversion would be nice. Especially since now the free coins from tasks are unusable unless you unlock the gold-priced claw machines, where previously the materials were not behind a paywall to be able to use them.

[low lion]

I'm saying those accounts could farm silver and gold to buy cosmetics and then trade the cosmetics.

[mellow iris]

Silver to gold conversion isn't likely to happen. Purchasable items are what keep the lights on and the servers running

[granite wave]

Most of limiteds are buyable for gold, some cosmetics cannot even be bought anymore, thats why trading system could give limiteds some meaning and collectors could get limiteds from beta version of game and such (Og cosmetics and such)

Why having a farm account when u can just buy it on ur own? I have 90k Silver and limiteds buyable for Silver will have almost no Value in trading community if Trading got added

[low lion]

I understand perfectly the reason for wanting such a system. I was just offering one reason why they may not have added it. Unfortunately, if something is profitable, someone in the world will try and do it. I think the team has also said that they want limited time cosmetics to truly show that someone has been supporting the game for a long time. If they could just be traded, it would counteract this sentiment.

[granite wave]

Some people don't have money at the time when those limiteds come out, lets say they have the whole collection but miss lets say Christmas. They wanna get the christmas since it would have more value then one of their current outfits, like they trade 2022 limited for 2020 limited (if it was possible), they made a profit and got the outfit they missed, I'm kind of collector myself, I enjoy the game itself, I love the gameplay, but I also love collecting cosmetics

But I understand ur reason, it makes sense

[pastel epoch]

I totally get that. Just sucks that the free coins can’t be used unless you pay to unlock or wait… a very long time to accumulate 850 (total) gold off the random 7g daily chests, when they used to all be usable.
Makes doing tasks kind of sad now when you get a coin you can’t use.

[low lion]

If I'm being honest, a lot of the materials you earned before never really mattered. You would have stockpiles of several kinds and still not be able to craft something.

[pastel epoch]

I crafted a lot of the pride outfits

[quasi crater]

I don’t even know how to use the materials

I think I have a bunch of them lol

[low lion]

#🔴︱promote-your-content message

[gray latch]

That reminds me. Danero, I've been wanting to try my hand at making an app with suggestions of various role and map strategies like you have, but I have never made an app before lol.

How did you start?

[low lion]

I just write guides through Steam. I know nothing about app development.

[rare flame]

It might be @gaunt thistle you're looking for in building an app.

[gray latch]

Ah, my mistake

[mellow iris]

lol yes it is

[low lion]

I can say though, just keeping information up to date in the guides takes some serious time. I can't imagine adding app development on top of that.

[gray latch]

True, but it'd also be good practice if software development is my plan for what I want to do in my future.

Which is currently a yes.

[rich dagger]

Good luck keeping up with how often the devs put out updates

[gaunt thistle]

Do I see a victim volunteer?
I'll message you Shrike, so we don't clutter this channel.

[granite wave]

A setting for goose hunt that on every kills for the duck they go faster

Idk why but it would be funny to see a duck zooming

[gaunt thistle]

In the final minute they actually do run faster

[granite wave]

Wait till they became faster than light

A blind speeding duck

Which is a good and a bad thing…

Good: you can find people much faster
Bad: good luck trying to kill while being too fast from pressing space

[valid moss]

Hi, I have a suggestion/request, what's the chance of adapting the prices in the store based on the steam standards for different regions? Because I received recently a complaining saying that it's unfair something that costs $15 come to Brazilian price like R$ 80, and it's applied to the other regions too, so I wanted to know if there's something being done relationed to this.

PS: Sorry if there're any English mistakes, I'm trying my best 🥲

[rich dagger]

I'm not certain that the team have any power over exchange rates or currency valuation 😬

[hazy pivot]

We can set regional prices and we likely will do this update in the future. The unfortunate part is that a number of users like to use our gift code generation system and sell codes on third party sites. Allowing too much discount would result in people reselling our codes to make profit.

We are looking into a way to solve this.

Once we have a solution we will let everyone know.

[native gyro]

Put the meeting bell into a different colour to stop people from thinking its a task

[native gyro]

Some people dont check the map

[dire tendon]

I believe they mean the highlighting colour that the bell emits, which is the same like tasks

[gray latch]

I mean, if changing the interact icon, giving it a special symbol on the map, and having it say "meetings left: 1" on the call doesn't help stop it, then I don't really see how that would work too.

The only thing I can think of is a special pop up at the bottom of the screen for people under a certain level that reads something like "this button/bell/horn will call an emergency meeting", but that would just be needless clutter.

[gray latch]

A part of me wishes the pelican got a "kill" stinger too, either when someone is eaten or when someone finally dies due to a meeting.

[sullen lance]

If your name is Xizta, one would think, "Oops, I thought this was a task!"

[rare flame]

Except you don't actually die until the meeting. Having a swallowed stinger might be neat, but it'd be unfair to lock you in place for that if the pelican was immediately killed and you're free again. Or the swallow stinger hides your liberator.

[gray latch]

Yea I know, that's likely the reason they don't get one.

[granite wave]

Thralls achievement…because why not:

“Revenge from the grave”: as a thrall, make a monster win when you got voted out

“Brains?”: become a thrall 100 times

“Zombie party”: as a thrall, 3 or more thralls have to grab the same goose

“A great slave”: as a thrall, kill more than 3 people

“Unkillable”: as a thrall manage to not die from a villager

[granite wave]

Wanted to ask this but kept forgetting:
Can we add the emojis in GGD…not the originals, meant like:

[gray latch]

Pretty sure they already are.

[worthy tangle]

You can get them through one of the cranes

[gray latch]

I know for sure is

[granite wave]

it’s for the farts…not the text

Guess I didn’t specify that

[gray latch]

Yep, once again I know for sure is a fart.

[red spoke]

is also one

[granite wave]

And this

[gaunt thistle]

I go around a lot of twitch streams and watch/help all the new players as much as I can and the biggest issue I see most of them have is the host has no idea how best to set up the settings, usually fumbling their way through until they either get fed up adjusting them, or find a balance they like
For example which roles to turn on for the best balance or which settings to have the discussion timer on, etc.

We have the ability to save presets for lobby settings, would it be possible to extend those to a couple of buttons for "recommended settings" so when setting up a lobby the host can press one button to set the settings based on the number of players and/or skill level such as beginner, advanced, veteran or something.
One of the most common suggestions I see myself making is to turn pigeon and vulture off when the lobby has under 10 players because otherwise they tend to win far too often (at least from what I've seen)

[rich dagger]

That sounds super helpful

[low lion]

Ditto. Also, I would like to add that it seems a lot of lobby hosts choose Draft simply because they aren't sure how to make Classic balanced. Presets are great, but you either have to start by creating the lobby settings yourself or join a lobby with good settings, which is highly dependent on lobby size.

[gray latch]

I often choose draft because most classic lobbies end up being 16 player games with only 1 duck 1 neutral.

[hidden monolith]

hey I have some suggeust for example optimize the system for reconnecting because I often reconnect from a player to a looker and based on such many Chinese people it is necessary to build a chinese channel for collecting suggestions or bugs

[granite wave]

Yea…I had a game where I was professional in 15 people on nexus classic…it was very difficult to kill unnoticed, do sabotage etc.

But I manage to pull off a hardworking satisfying win…because a few disconnected and a few were dead by me

But hey I won all by myself against 14 people

Until the host fixed that

[low lion]

I know that discord servers can make new users react to a message before using the rest of the discord. Would it be helpful to make new users select a language in the LFG-language channel? I've seen a ton of messages recently where international users are trying to find games but can't find the LFG channel.

[waxen crescent]

I wish I can convert my gold tokens into green tokens

[rare flame]

You can! Except you first need to unlock the gold claw machine, earn the white coins from that then get green coins from the white machine.

[waxen crescent]

No like

I was wondering like can we down grade stuff like gold turns into 3-5 purple or something

[loud briar]

can fix this bug?

[sage carbon]

it'll be fixed in the next patch

[loud briar]

ok

[last dew]

hey i was wondering if it was possible to add a button to reconnect if you get disconnected

[rich dagger]

Reconnection is a built-in feature. If you disconnect and go back to play you should be able to rejoin. As long as it hasn't been too long, you will rejoin the game in progress (though someone could have killed you while your bird was idle). If it has been too long (roughly 90 seconds) you can still rejoin but you will rejoin as a spectator instead.

[last dew]

i mean if you go into find and it says your disconnected i cant reconnect

[rich dagger]

You may need to troubleshoot your network connection then relaunch the game

[rare flame]

And if that doesn't work, open a ticket at #troubleshooting-and-bug-reports. It won't get you back to your game in time, but it might help figure out why it won't connect.

[pale reef]

With the old crafting system, you could use gold to outright buy whatever item you want to craft with gold. Could we get gold purchasable vouchers for each tier of the crane machines for a pull without needing tokens?

[tired echo]

(small idea) can developers add the mark on the sqare and add text is "I understand, don't show me again"?

[analog nimbus]

I mean

Is it that necessary?

You just click once

Boom

The popup is gone

[granite wave]

Achievements for tasks because why not:

“Happy bday”: in nexus call your friend(or wife/husband or your parents idk) and see what they’ll give you for birthday

“wow a picture of me”: manage to fish a photo of yourself

“Careful who you trust”: as a duck, seal the cargo bay door without sabotaging the doors and eject a bird out of the ship

[median hollow]

Translate the game into Latin please

[mellow iris]

Translations are done when there is enough of a demand for the language and when there are enough people who speak that language to help with the translation

[ocean cypress]

@exotic flame #troubleshooting-and-bug-reports
请谢谢，有人可以在那里帮助你
please and thanks and someone can assist you there

[rich dagger]

Carpe duckem

[lilac wyvern]

The Simplified Chinese translation does look weird in many places, but I've submitted a ticket with a detailed description and suggested. : )

[analog panther]

I can’t see the colorful coins which is used to get the rewards on my mobile phone.

[gaunt thistle]

They aren't yet shown on mobile, they will appear along with the coat rack in the arcade hallway when the next mobile update is approved by their respective mobile stores

[ocean cypress]

If you update to v2.14.02 you will

[mellow iris]

[ocean cypress]

Duckside fallin behind on the latest news we released a hotpatch a few hours ago

minor adjustments including the display of tokens in the collections

[gaunt thistle]

Cut me some slack, I was slightly busy (slightly meaning extremely) and unable to keep up with the latest news

[hazy pivot]

Should we tell him about GGD3?

[granite wave]

3? But where is 2?

[sullen mango]

有没有人啊

工作人员

[gray latch]

GGD2 was sabotaged, so they made GGD3. The plot of GGD3 is finding out what happened to GGD2.

[granite wave]

oooo

Can I find the source?

how is it sabotage?

does GGD2 have more roles and more deception than the first one?

[gaunt thistle]

You're already living in GGD2

[gray latch]

The source: revealed to me in a dream

[granite wave]

How do you know? Fortune teller?

I mean…sometimes dreams does that but surely it’s just a dream

[worthy tangle]

Though, still not as great as GGD4, where the goal was finding out who the hell greenlit a 4th GGD game.

Though I will note that GGD5 was a plesant mix-up of the franchise, and Herbert is deffinatly the best written villain in GGD so far

[pale reef]

I don't know, I feel the GGD series fell off after their FPS got taken offline.

Professional mains rise up

[worthy tangle]

Yeah, the switch from a First Person Shooter to a Card Based Rouge-Like was jarring, but I loved it none the less

[pale reef]

Agreed. Can't wait for their cash grab match 3 game.

[low lion]

Don't forget the VR exclusive version, which was scrapped due to lack of interest.

[gaunt thistle]

Herbert is the villain all along?
Thanks for the spoilers

[pale reef]

Maybe we all are the real villains?

[sage carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-grin-smirk-bad-gif-19562077

[worthy tangle]

Frick srry 😅

[gray latch]

GGD6: In Space was pointless imo and killed the franchise for me.

[gray latch]

I mean, I do own a tarot deck and a Runecasting set, so maybe?

[low lion]

Don't tell me the team was actually considering a VR exclusive version. That was 100% a joke.

[neon ore]

Instead of absurd amounts of gold to unlock claw machines so that the player is forced to buy gold with real money, why not make it an absurd amount of silver (like 20k for the golden one) so that it is more accessible to players

[low lion]

I like this idea, but it would have to be way more silver than that. More like 100-150k silver for the golden one.

[neon ore]

Let's goooo they love my idea

I think 100k might work because the payoff is much better so you can use the golden claw machine

[low lion]

I'm not a developer, but I do like your idea.

[neon ore]

Could they maybe see this idea?

[mellow iris]

They see everything

[low lion]

Rule 1 #rules

[hazy pivot]

We read everything.

If we had a licensed game where you pay for the game itself we would 100% do that.

As it stands now, no content is locked behind a paywall which is rather generous considering we're hosting all the voice data too 🙂

The cosmetics are our ONLY way of generating revenue.

[mellow iris]

Please take conversations to #💬︱general , this channel is for suggesting ideas for the game

[mighty owl]

Duck E Cheese needs a ball pit

[waxen turtle]

how to do this task? xD

[rich dagger]

Keep clicking/tapping the pillow until the task finishes

[granite crag]

A setting to allow impostors to move while sabotaging. While it might break a bit of the balancing in a bigger lobby, ultimately it’s harder to be the impostor in a smaller lobby, so it should be a setting.
If there is a way to do it, or there already is a setting, please inform me as I couldn’t find any.
I can see how this might be a little powerful in bigger lobbies, its harmless if it’s just an option.

[cloud valley]

What's an imposter?

[low lion]

This has been a longstanding mechanic that will not be changed. It's not too hard to pretend to do a task then call a sabotage.

[rare flame]

In a smaller lobby, you can just go where no one is around to call a sabotage instead of in front of people, or pretend to be doing a task.

[granite crag]

Yeah but when two people are huddled unbeknownst to you in a small lobby moving, that immediately removes them from the question. Of course I try to know the whereabouts of everyone before calling anything, and I do always fake something. Of course this is only an issue in 5-6 player lobbies, which is why I only suggest a setting for it. When I win this way, I feel cheap as well. It’s not satisfying at all, it’s just different to be different imo but I can’t speak for the devs.

[low lion]

It really is only an issue in super small lobbies, and for the most part the game is balanced for rooms of at least 10. You have balance issues in really tiny lobbies; it's nearly impossible to avoid.

[granite crag]

Which is why I propose for it to be a setting. :)

[low lion]

I understand where you're coming from, but the developers have specifically limited options within the settings to make it easier for most players to create a balanced lobby. This does come at the expense of not being able to fine tune certain settings. I cannot completely speak for the devs, but ideas like this have not been implemented in the past.

[rich dagger]

It can get into a slippery slope situation. If there's a setting for this, why not a setting for that? And before you know it, there's five pages of settings that are impossible to balance.

[low yarrow]

I sense a new game mode: Nobody's Happy

[sterile carbon]

Can we get a second way to unlock the claw machine

[dire tendon]

would be nice to spend the 50k silver coins I have on such a way

like a really high silver amount for that second way to unlock it

[rich dagger]

I could see maybe something like spend the Gold OR unlock machines at progressive levels, maybe 200, 400, 600, et al

[sterile carbon]

NGL both are extremely good ideas cuz you need to play too unlock new stuff both methods whod be very much effectiv and the community probs might like it

[delicate bison]

On Ancient Sands, bodies get thrown to the crocodile when someone is killed on the boat, similar to the furnace and river on the Basement

[rare flame]

Only when it's moving, though. When it's docked, it's too far away from the croc.

[delicate bison]

^^^^^

[silk trellis]

make it so that people that joined ingame can become ghosts instead of being locked into spec mode with no ghost mode

[gaunt thistle]

Being a spectator instead of a ghost helps prevent griefing and cheating

[karmic pike]

The medium wouldn’t be able to play with spectating ghosts

[rare flame]

They would have to watch both numbers closer. It can already be hard if a player disconnects in the middle of a game, but having an increase in ghosts without players dying could be really hard.

[karmic pike]

Agreed

[low hearth]

Hey there, I had an idea that putting up some kind of arrow indicator to the main action(kill, check role,etc., whatever's on the bottom left)'s selected target. It's quite common to have the wrong one killed when ally and and target are too close together :3

[pale reef]

But that’s what makes it fun!

[rare flame]

It teaches you to be more careful when there's a mimic in play. Knowing when to kill is also part of the learning curve.

[dire tendon]

A big mistake I've made when I was invis and mimic was in play, was go invis mode and accidentally do a driveby on my fellow duck partner

[low hearth]

xD

[dire tendon]

certainly made for an awkward conversation afterwards

[sage carbon]

its similar to the undertaker prioritizing body transportation over killing

it isnt something that we can't do.. and yes, it would make the life of the killer easier

but having those accidental moments are fun

this isn't a competitive shooter

[low hearth]

[quartz arrow]

A dodo in the card game in lounge. The dodo knows that they are dodo and they appear as a duck to the geese along with the actual duck. If they get voted out they win.

[keen tree]

I tried to scroll up to see if anything has already been mentioned relating to my thought yet or not but theres so many posts here...

I wonder, how important is it to have duck tasks to unlock sabotages? I have gotten to the point where I don't unlock sabo tasks unless I am a dead duck already because many players stalk the places where the sabo tasks are and either shoot you as sherrif/vig or they call a mtg and get you insta voted. I would enjoy the sabotages better if they did not need to be unlocked by doing a task because then geese would have to rely on actual evidence/social cues to figure out the ducks. But I also understand if you guys think its an important factor in the game. I will just continue to never do sabo tasks until dead XD

[rich dagger]

That's a key part of the balance. Most sabotage unlock tasks also have a Goose task equivalent at the same location also, so someone being at a task isn't necessarily enough to condemn a bird.

[dire tendon]

It's true that veteran players will guard the light sabo in particular most of the time, and instakill whoever tries to do it. Since it doesn't have a goose task.

Almost the same like committing suicide in that sense.

I guess it's all about the timing, really. Sometimes you'll get away with it and sometimes you won't.

It's drastically different in lobbies with newbies, since they'll usually just overlook it.

[rich dagger]

If I'm the only Duck in a small lobby, I just won't do the lights sabo. If there are multiple Ducks, I'll wait and do all the sabos if I die first. So satisfying getting a multi kill under the chandelier as a ghost

[dire tendon]

yeah I do the same thing pretty much

I risk doing light sabo sometimes if I'm feeling lucky when I'm alive, but if I succeed I won't use the light sabo in that same round

otherwise someone will be like "I just saw them walk away from that sabo and the lights went out immediately"

[mellow iris]

Heh, as a goose I make it my duty to immediately run to any Sabo task areas and try to get shot by whoever us staking them out

[red spoke]

Just a random thought, what if there was an option to make the duck sabotages appear in random geese tasks?

[granite wave]

To me being a dead duck is useful because…well…you can guide ducks to the treasure you cannot possess

And you can use the “door trap sabotage”

[red spoke]

One thing that just came to my mind just now.

Would be possible for Phone users to get a push notification when the daily reward is available?

[low lion]

This would be cool if it could be done. I mean, you can already opt out of notifications if you don't want them.

[rare flame]

It is already implemented, kind of. As mentioned, nearly every duck sabotage has at least one real task associated with it. The ones that don't are the most dangerous, thus putting the duck at the most risk, like the chandelier sabotage.

If you mean have "unlock door sabotage" be a goose task? That's a bad idea. Then the geese would hold the sabotage hostage, or if all ducks have it as well, then a goose can know it's completed just by seeing it disappear from the list. At most, I would suggest the tasks that overlap duck sabotage be a little more frequent. As it is, it seems they are kind of rare.

[red spoke]

What I meant is

The fire sabotage in Mallard is done in the Kitchen, but could be done too at the fireplace

[low lion]

They aren't going to move where the sabotages are at.

[red spoke]

Oh okay

[rare flame]

There is already some variation in the sabotages, but that's which ones are unlocked. To use Manor as the example, you could have either the poison fountain sabotage or chandelier sabotage. In space, sometimes you can sabotage the life support and sometimes the engines. But some sabotages are constant, like lights sabotage or door sabotage.

[red spoke]

Ah

[waxen atlas]

I think that tutorial needs to be changed a little, It's saying that you need to complete tasks if u're a ghost which is not true anymore

[hazy pivot]

We're a bit behind, we will get ahead of it in a new update

[low lion]

There have been much larger issues. The player base has gotten 5-10 times bigger in the course of a month or so.

[hazy pivot]

50x bigger actually

[low lion]

There should be an info button by the token icons in the collection explaining the claw machines and how to access them. This information would be translated and could seriously reduce confusion.

[slim star]

How about creating a trading option for cosmetics and pets?

[gaunt thistle]

Trading options open the floodgates for bot accounts to farm materials and other items.
Would be nice, but bad people mean we can't have nice things.

This idea came to me in game yesterday and is more suited to classic rejects than anything, but it was too funny not to post.

Imagine a duck that could call a special sabotage on the space maps. This would be the only sabotage the duck could call.

Once called, a space mummy spawns in a random location and hunts down a victim, which once caught, it begins slowly dragging them to the airlock while all they can do is helplessly kick and scream.

[low lion]

This is utterly terrifying and I love it

[gray latch]

You can kind of do this as a pelican. Gobble as many people up as you can then take a walk in space as a group

[mellow iris]

you would still need a duck to pull the lever

[worthy tangle]

I love going for a walk in space in the comfort of my own basement

[sharp trellis]

Spy Vs spy skins?

[gray latch]

Your very own escape pod, along side any others that may be with you

[sinful lake]

how to connect developer?

[mellow iris]

they read everything

if you put a suggestion in any of the channels it will get seen

[sinful lake]

We want to cooperate with developers in the Chinese market

looking forward to reply

[ocean cypress]

For business inquiries you can email [e-mail]

[sinful lake]

thank you

[mellow iris]

told ya they read everything

[sinful lake]

I have sent an email to you

[mellow iris]

Keep in mind it is also late night/early morning in canada so it might be a bit before they answer due to time zones

[sinful lake]

we like Goose Goose Duck.A dozen people play this game with me every day.

[obsidian fractal]

Someone on Artemis stream had the idea of tokens for claw machine ending up in monthly twitch viewer drops instead of just silver. As silver is accessible and usable by all I wouldn't put purple or gold tokens in but possibly white and green MAYBE blue?

[cerulean quest]

Not everyone uses Twitch...

[granite wave]

Like me

[gaunt thistle]

I wouldn't mind tokens instead of silver for some of the drops.
Not everyone uses twitch is true, but those people are missing out on the silver as is, the only difference here is they'll also miss out on extra tokens.

I don't think the idea was to move tokens to twitch exclusively.

[granite wave]

Is it possible to have the undertaker “hold” the bodies so that nobody can see them. I have played as undertaker and have been caught dragging a body. Instead, let the undertaker carry the bodies and make it invisible to other geese and ducks to see.

[mellow iris]

that's the chance you take when dragging bodies

[low lion]

It's a high-risk, high-reward ability. Get away with it, and no one can report the body. You don't have to drag bodies.

[obsidian fractal]

I only undertake... near furnace or mist passages

[obsidian fractal]

yeah word for word I suggested changing a twitch drop. the bot was being silly so I ignored it but no one wanted any sort of exclusivity. I think I triggered the bot by saying Twitch in a certain way?

[rare flame]

I kind of want to see an achievement for when a demolitionist dies to their own bomb, but I'm not sure how to properly track that.

[dire tendon]

"Self-destructive"

or "Explosive Personality"

for the name

[silver path]

I actually really did like this idea. It encourages people to stream the game which promotes it more and also help GGD’s numbers on Twitch. Maybe just as a temporary drop and to mix it up a little.

[past gate]

I'm confused, do party ducks really work? I think instead of raising the tone, why not just add noise

[mellow iris]

they work perfectly fine, i have seen plenty of meetings get completely derailed, saving the duck's life because of it

[past gate]

really？Maybe it's not suitable for Chinese

[mellow iris]

and the reason for raising the pitch is because it simulates sucking the gas out of a helium balloon

Just adding noise to the voice might make people think they are having microphone issues