💬│palia-discussions

[wicked bough]

Awesomee! All of my friends are excited about the game too, which is kind of unusual. We all usually have our own taste in games but for the first time we all are super excited about one together!

@peak escarp Oh my gosh, definitely try it! And please get some sleep don't stay up on our account LOL Dream of lots of great tea in Palia hahah

[patent adder]

Oh hey Era. ^^

[safe fern]

Hi Milky how you doin =]

[patent adder]

Work. Only 2.5 hours left. You?☺️

[quick ruin]

...is there a monster called a goosigator?

[still delta]

anyone know when wave 2 of alpha access is

[safe fern]

Work also - 7.5 hours left D= haha

[warped oriole]

There should be!

[quick ruin]

#🎨│old-palia-fan-art message

Goosigator. If it doesn't exist it should now.

[serene oyster]

Hello everyone 😁 someone probably asked it already but I'm really confused so here it goes, what's the difference between Chuu and Chapaa? 😂

[warped oriole]

Chapaa is the actual name, Chuu is the community-given name before players knew what they were.

[fiery gale]

Chuuburger

[serene oyster]

Aaa I see perfect now it makes sense 🥺

[bright forge]

[fiery gale]

Chuu stew

Chuu tacos

[serene oyster]

You're making me hungry and feel bad because of Chuu 😂

[wicked bough]

No eating Chuus please.

[fiery gale]

Eat chuuburger

[serene oyster]

No worries it's the burger, stew and tacos part that gets me 🤣😩

[wicked bough]

😂 @serene oyster

[wicked bough]

The devs said in the coming weeks iirc that there should be another wave but we will see. It honestly really depends on if they feel comfortable moving forward with more people. But last we all knew it could be anywhere from 2+ weeks away.

[hidden spindle]

Woohoo! I am excited! I just joined and was afraid I missed out on the chance to get accepted. Looking forward to what they have to offer regardless though

[patent adder]

Yep, only 200 of the 1400 have been invited so far😄

[inner pecan]

I need a new homeworld ❤️

[patent adder]

What do you mean? 😅

[inner pecan]

I survive on alternate realities -- gotta get my fix. #waitingforPalia

[wispy meadow]

So... You're a sentient virus?

[patent adder]

Is this someone I am safe to be friends with.. or will I catch something👀

[wispy meadow]

I don't know lol

[warped oriole]

I am sure only her love for Palia is infectious..

[patent adder]

Oh okay. We can be friends then☺️

[inner pecan]

😆 some of my former guildmates liked to joke that i existed only within the confines of the internet... im not always sure they were wrong.

[raw quail]

good morning everybody 😄

[wispy meadow]

Lol. So do we all, mostly

[celest maple]

Good morning, hope your morning's great Jayke.

[warped oriole]

Morning, Jayke!

[hidden spindle]

I love the fact that one of the characters looks like he has a pet. I'm an animal lover and would love to just fill my house with different pets!

[craggy niche]

good morning in the morning people who live in the morning now

[wispy meadow]

You, I like the way you think, and I want a whole menagerie of pets in Palia as well

[raw quail]

yeah my morning was great 😄 had a nice breakfast just now. How about yours? Or your day (if its not morning where you live)?

[hidden spindle]

In Valheim I like to just sit at the end of my dock fishing with two wolves by my side

[celest maple]

Woke up early, had breakfast and did some exercises. It was a pretty quiet and calm morning.

[inner pecan]

Y'know, I don't fish irl.. I'm not at all interested in fish unless they've been prepared by a chef, and then not often... but put me in a game, any game, and I'm like "ok, where's the fishing gear.." I like game pets in general, too. both companiony ones and vanity accessory types

[safe fern]

Indeed a morning it is, a good one to you

[raw quail]

same here, fishing in video games just has such a relaxing atmosphere (well except stardew valley, I suck at fishing in stardew valley lol), I actually did fish irl, but I find it very stressfull for some reason, or frustrating when you just dont catch anything for days

[raw quail]

that sounds nice 🙂

[formal ivy]

😂 Fishing, i like Fishing in SoT, even though it takes some time, its still fun

[tidal bloom]

I wonder if we'll have a milking minigame

[inner pecan]

I haven't tried Stardew Valley.. what made that fishing difficult?

[raw quail]

aaah I've never played SoT, but I was always interested, just never had someone to play with D:

[formal ivy]

Its fun even with random people

[pine skiff]

I wish i had a better pc to play it 😭

[raw quail]

theres like a little minigame where you have to keep a bar on the fish through button smashing and I just generally suck at it. Theres a lot of people who enjoy it tho, so you'd have to find out for yourself 😄

[warped oriole]

SoT?

[formal ivy]

😂 Best is when you are doing fortress and 4 other ships join u in alliance

[warped oriole]

Oh, Sea of Thieves, right?

[raw quail]

yup

[formal ivy]

Yup

[raw quail]

I built myself a PC like... four years ago? It can still handle most of the latest games (so it should also be able to handle palia I think 😄 )

[formal ivy]

In SoT is Fishing similar, but moře active. When the fish shoes up, it reels out, And you have to put your Fishing rod the opposite way than the fish is going to make it tired, so you could reel it Back to u

[wispy meadow]

I like the one where you only press and hold when the fish bites, no button smashing

[inner pecan]

I've heard good things about Stardew Valley in general

[formal ivy]

😂 Eeey another pc builder

[pine skiff]

Wow, how much did it cost? Thing is i dont know much about building pcs 😔

[raw quail]

yeah its amazing 😄 more than it looks like in the beginning 🙂

[inner pecan]

I'm about due for an upgrade 😕 choosing is daunting

[raw quail]

oh I'm glad I had a friend to help me out, I dont think I could build one all by myself.. although there are lots of tutorials in the internet. I think mine cost... hmmm, around 950€ altogether? Bought a lot of the parts on sale tho

[formal ivy]

What are you choosing?

[pine skiff]

Geez, guess i'll have to buy a cheap gaming laptop to at least play most games i wanna play at good fps :-:

[formal ivy]

I have a friend that knows a lot about hardware, he could recommend u some things if u wanted

Dont go for gaming laptops, its not a good choice for the Long run

[inner pecan]

ultimately, probably making cow eyes at my husband so he melts and builds me a new machine.. but before that, i generally have to moon over prebuilt machines for awhile

[raw quail]

yeeeah that was at the time i still lived at home but worked all day, so I didnt have rent or anything to worry about. Now I'm at uni and living financially on the edge, I could never afford it now 😅

[hidden spindle]

Are any of you part of the lucky 200 that got accepted into pre-alpha?

[spring rivet]

Hi pals! Sorry for interrupting, a friendly reminder to please keep this channel about Palia-related topics only, and feel free to continue the interesting conversation in the #💬│off-topic-chat channel or #🎮│other-games . Thanks for understanding! 🦆

[inner pecan]

not I 😕

[raw quail]

you can click on profile pics and check the roles, it should say pre-alpha-tester there 😄 then you know

[hidden spindle]

Or is it a hush hush thing where you can't even talk about it?

[hidden spindle]

Ahh, gotcha

[warm plover]

🦆

[hidden spindle]

I found someone!!

[surreal crest]

? :O

[pine skiff]

sheeeeeesh ;-;

[raw quail]

i think they mean a pre-alpha-tester 😄

[pine skiff]

Really?! is cheap gaming pc better then?

[raw quail]

lets move this conversation over to #💬│off-topic-chat

[pine skiff]

mb ;/

[hidden spindle]

I won't @ them and bug them though. Probably wouldn't take kindly to it. Lol

[rugged matrix]

-waves-
Hi peeps 🙂

[warm plover]

yeah a lot of them got some pretty aggressive messages on the day the invites were sent out 😶

[wispy meadow]

Yikes

[surreal crest]

henlo

[raw quail]

why can't some people just be happy for others

[wispy meadow]

The sin of Envy sadly

[stone sierra]

Heyoooo o/

[still delta]

why would people do that? if anything thats a sure way to get blacklisted lmao

[warm plover]

cause theyre mean 🤷

[still delta]

just doesnt seem very smart if the goal is to get access to a privileged thing

[warped oriole]

People are odd.

[stone sierra]

Some thing they bought their way into alpha by boosting the server and such

[wispy meadow]

Didn't they already say that that's not a factor?

[hidden spindle]

That's very sad to hear. I'm sure it was a minority of the community here. Hopefully the devs did/will do something to discourage that type of behavior in the future

[stone sierra]

yeah, they said it, and some people cannot understand it, also we as a species are really bad at probability

[inner pecan]

one would hope

[hidden spindle]

Unfortunately, email accounts/discord accounts are not that hard to come by. Hopefully they change their ways though.

[wispy meadow]

I've accepted the fact that I'll probably not gonna be picked and that's a good thing cause then I don't have to worry about bugs and losing my save, instead I can play the full game when it's out.

[bright forge]

Hi everyone!

[warped oriole]

I'm more or less the same. As long as I know Palia will be available in the future, that's all good, and I think a fair few people think the same.

[hidden spindle]

Some of my fondest memories of gaming have come during beta.

[warped oriole]

Hey Perin!

[warm plover]

By the way, I don't have a firsthand account of this, I should specify. I'm just repeating what I've heard from actual Pre-Alpha testers

[raw quail]

I do still have hope to get picked, but I can live with it if I'm not. I know I'll get to play the game some day and enjoy it with you all 😄

[celest maple]

yup, gotta look at the brights. it really helps my FOMO hehe. and i mean... general life tip: be happy for other people's happiness. it's been one of the keys to my own happiness for a while now, and has absolutely improved my life and outlook

[bright forge]

What is the topic right now?

[warped oriole]

The possibility of being picked for pre-alpha or not.

[hidden spindle]

Dreaming of gtting into pre-alpha/alpha/beta

[raw quail]

yeah can confirm 😄 always be happy for others

[warm plover]

and people harassing the people that did get picked

[wispy meadow]

Righteously upset about toxic behavior from first round of invites. And the acceptance that at some point everyone will get Palia

[stone sierra]

Yeah, I just booted up Stardew Valley again so Palia can drop on us at any point, no need tu rush there

[formal ivy]

How can you actually know if you registeres correctly

[hidden spindle]

1. register, 2) ???? 3) Profits!!

[bright forge]

I think people getting salty because they did't get in it's just silly. It's like being mad you did't won a lottery.

[wispy meadow]

Good advice. 👍

[inner pecan]

i didn't think i'd like playing pre release stuff, and then a couple decades ago one game's open beta hooked me hard, and i've been applying to test and doing test server stuff every chance, ever since 😆

[formal ivy]

which game

[pine skiff]

Yea, gotta be patient

[hidden spindle]

Yeah, it was crazy how a broken game that crashed every 15 minutes could get me hooked so hard

[stone sierra]

S6 did not have to announce it so early as they were already funded. They just want to work with the community to make the game as good as possible so our job is to wait and help by providing feedback.

[warped oriole]

And in the meantime, we can make suggestions and have fun back at home base here!

[inner pecan]

trying to not talk about other games, but check my profile pic

[formal ivy]

I see 😄

[raw quail]

The discord is the real pre-alpha

[hidden spindle]

Yes...palis-chat is the channel name .. I am easily distracted. Lol

[bright forge]

I think some folks were mad because the didn't realise obvious criteria on first wave. It's obvious that being active and helpful here increase your chance a bit.

[inner pecan]

some truth there, if they have the mechanism to monitor and direct a non-toxic community.. I'm hopeful, by chance or design

[hidden spindle]

If you haven't voted for the next villager to be the guy with the pet, please go vote for him. If you voted for someone else, please go change your vote! 🤣 🤣 🤣

[wispy meadow]

So you have a pretty good chance Perin 😊

[stone sierra]

when the pool is so small, they wanted to have testers whou would actually help insted just brag that they got in

[hidden spindle]

Do you have to do something to tie your discord account with your application?

[bright forge]

I doubt it but thanks. I have a THEORY that EU will get alpha and not pre-alpha because the problems with servers

[stone sierra]

there was a second survey in #📢│palia-news ehere they asked for discord handle

[bright forge]

do second survey?

[hidden spindle]

Did you specify where you lived? I don't remember doing that.

[stone sierra]

there was a question for closest server

[safe fern]

Well that may have been the problem really, it was mentioned that constructive participation was one factor, I think that only means that discord messages were analysed for how good someone was at giving feedback - but people took it as meaning participation was rewarded

[hidden spindle]

What is this second survey you speak of? How do I do it?

[bright forge]

I think you might missed second survey

[bright forge]

#📢│palia-news message here

[hidden spindle]

Does that mean I'm not special if I didn't get a second survey?

[wispy meadow]

It's in the announcements section.

[bright forge]

No everybody can do second survey

[bright forge]

I think it was more than that

[inner pecan]

that idea was a bit of a bummer for me, I'm an old hand at allll of the game genres they referenced in the initial press, but I'm still learning to use Discord.... I took a bit of a vacay from PC gaming back when ventrilo was the go-to, and haven't really picked it up again til recently

[hidden spindle]

Thank you!!!

[wispy meadow]

What kind of minigames do you guys think Palia will have?

[green beacon]

IM off to work glhf theorycrafting everyone

[raw quail]

probably fishing and cooking 🤔

and maybe taming animals? that would be cool

[stone sierra]

please define a minigame. A lot of people have different understanding what a minigame is

[safe fern]

I wouldn't worry about it, from their perspective as a company they just want people who can give good feedback - a fair amount of people got in who haven't said a word on discord

[bright forge]

I think for pre-alpha they wanted active and helpful folks from here so many people of that kind were chosen.

[hidden spindle]

Do you think timezones affect acceptance probability? I've got a friend I'm trying to convince to join the fun, but they are in Australia.

[raw quail]

in the beginning i was just so overwhelmed because this was my first "big server" on discord. But I got used to it and now try to find friends (and customers for my restaurant heh)

[inner pecan]

aye, no use dwelling on things that are what they are, anyway 🤓

[celest maple]

I hope timezones won't be an issue, I'm in Australia as well.

[wispy meadow]

Like.... A smaller game inside the main game?
Like darts in the tavern or cards minigame....
Or the cooking and fishing minigames....
Idk how else to describe it....

[celest maple]

But, if it is, it is what it is Lol.

[raw quail]

darts would be cool! 😄

[wintry atlas]

Loved vetrilo, I wouldn't read too much into it. My hunch is that discord activeness won't really be a factor anymore; they likely wanted the super active to set up the foundations for all the pre-alpha testers.

[bright forge]

Some people here are form Australia so idk

[hidden spindle]

Gotcha, I guess timezones matter more for server stress testing which is a lot farther down the road

[stone sierra]

For me when I think of a minigame I se some kind of popup with a match 3 or a memory game. As in a minigame is something outside of a core gameplay loop. I hope that activities like Fishing and coocking do not have stuff like that. I would love to have some social minigames at the tavern though.

[hidden spindle]

I'd be down for an unknown mini game that is uniquely Palia

[celest maple]

That would actually be really cool

[wispy meadow]

Understandable! I don't like match 3 much either. But social minigames would be so fun 🥰

[inner pecan]

yeah, core skill type stuff may or may not have minigame components... collections would be fun

[hidden spindle]

Maybe we can get them to put in competitive mini game community challenges!

[inner pecan]

but more like AC museum style than WoW bottomless menu style

[hidden spindle]

I'm sure there will be fishing tournaments

[raw quail]

A DnD minigame would be fun I think, but maybe a bit too complicated 😄

[stone sierra]

I just want to have Fishing Journal with all the species i caught and the smalles/largest fish of the type, and some other collectibles I could show off at my place, like minerals and such

[wispy meadow]

OMG I WANT A MUSEUM TO BE ONE OF THE COMMUNITY QUEST THINGS. EVERYONE HAS TO COLLECT FISH/PLANTS/ETC AND FILL IT UP TO GET A REWARD.

[hidden spindle]

Id be down for scavenger hunts too

[bright forge]

I remember first wave and only thing I was doing was checking if people I know got it

[inner pecan]

tavern games in general could be fun... chess/checkers, or new sorts

[raw quail]

thath would be so cool maybe we can build a museum or something like that

[wispy meadow]

Yesss!

[warped oriole]

Yes! Tavern games sounds great!

[stone sierra]

Cider-Pong?

[silent cairn]

There seems to be something chess like shown in the tavern in the trailer.

[hidden spindle]

I gotta run for a few. See you all around!

[bright forge]

If they give us just dices I will be happy

[silent cairn]

the Gambling Guild especially will be happy, haha

[safe fern]

I have some cozy memories of playing board games down the pub when I was at uni - I really hope they have board games at the tavern ^^

[stone sierra]

all seven kinds of dice please

[wispy meadow]

So um...
Why has no one tried to make a Christmas edition of chess using Santa as King and Elves as Pawns?

[bright forge]

d6 is enough but full set

[wispy meadow]

The opposition is Grinch btw

[inner pecan]

holiday decorating would be nice... but not too similar to real world holidays

[stone sierra]

D&D sessions in Palia

[bright forge]

[raw quail]

ooooh imagine a chess set with Chuus as pawns or something

[surreal crest]

more like D&F - Dungeons and Flowers

[bright forge]

I have met so many D&D people her you will be surprised

[wispy meadow]

So instead of Halloween we have Nightmare's Eve? Or something like that?

[magic lance]

Chapaa's Vs Flowers

[stone sierra]

D&D people are everywhere

[bright forge]

true

[inner pecan]

or a county fair event with contests and games and ribbons 😛 but that's more like... an event with mini games inbedded

[wispy meadow]

YESSSSS I LOVE THIS IDEA

[stone sierra]

F&F - Fishing&Friends

[raw quail]

and with little food stands

[inner pecan]

of course!

[tidal bloom]

Yeah, we need to determine the Neighbourhood's fanciest cat, afterall

[raw quail]

Oooooh what about a street food festival in palia

[bright forge]

Like Stardew Valley spring festival?

[tidal bloom]

Or the best Tau

[wispy meadow]

Yessss bring the food!!!

[raw quail]

I will bring all the food

[wispy meadow]

How about like a pet show type of competition like in Nintendogs but with the Palia dog/wolf pets?

[stone sierra]

I will provide igredients. Fish from me and Meat from my friend whos lurking here

[raw quail]

yesssss my first suppliers

[wispy meadow]

Are you opening a restaurant then?

[raw quail]

I still need someone for fresh farm produce

[raw quail]

yup! Thats the plan! If possible

[inner pecan]

do we know if we'll have swimming? one game I remember had some fun diving minigames

[stone sierra]

Gonna ask my brother 😄

[wispy meadow]

Leave that to me. Along with honey

[raw quail]

oh and collecting seashells for a collection or something! 😄

[bright forge]

I like that they said that professions will be one of core gameplay elements

[surreal crest]

aka "the water level everybody hates"

[raw quail]

yay! 😄 I'll handle all the cooking!

[inner pecan]

lol.. noooo, not every game botches it

[stone sierra]

I hope there are bees. I want all of them

[wispy meadow]

If you can make me Honey Pancakes I will be your forever customer

[inner pecan]

now painful jump puzzles I could live without

[raw quail]

Not to brag, but my pancakes are top class

[wispy meadow]

I want glider puzzles

[inner pecan]

I'd love to be a beekeeper or a glassblower

[wispy meadow]

You may have some competition with the other pancake person lol

[raw quail]

If theres another way around, then I'm fine with them, but I dont want them to be a necessity

[celest maple]

Pancake competitions? Ahaha.

[raw quail]

or a collaboration

[wispy meadow]

COLLAB! YES! CREATE THE ULTIMATE PANCAKE

[raw quail]

I'm all for working together instead of being rivals

[wispy meadow]

Though a pancake competition would be a fun PVP idea lmao

[bright forge]

I wander what elements of game will be easier in group? Of course beside standard ones like gathering and building

[raw quail]

haha true 😄

[inner pecan]

I don't mind jump puzzles or glidery things.. as long as they only optional... side things.

[raw quail]

exactly. If theres a longer side route, I'm taking that one

[wispy meadow]

Okay 😊

[broken marten]

pancakes you say?

[wispy meadow]

@broken marten @raw quail
Both of you pls Collab on the ultimate Palia Pancake

[broken marten]

i am not opposed to this

[raw quail]

I'm in 😄

[wispy meadow]

Okay now we just need to arrange this into The Great Palia Pancake-off

[surreal crest]

can't wait to introduce people to Makao in our casino B)

[warped oriole]

I'm down for optional parkour/glider courses/related puzzles, as long as I can solo 'em. Perhaps with a title at the end?

[bright forge]

I love simple dice poker

[surreal crest]

if that will be possible, then yes, that too.

[raw quail]

oh are you planning on building a casino in palia? 😄

[hidden spindle]

But would they be called pancakes in Palia or do palians have their own name for pancakes?

[wispy meadow]

We'll find out when we get to play I guess

[warped oriole]

Palicakes

[surreal crest]

yes, me and @small hinge have plans to open a casino with card games, bets and all kinds of fun stuff.

[raw quail]

thats such a good idea! 😄 I'll make sure to visit. And if you need catering... 😛

[silent cairn]

Is Makao a game you'll have in the casino? Never heard of it.

[surreal crest]

... We'll stay in touch ;)

[bright forge]

I like the idea that when you make parkour/glider challenges you get new parkour based clothes and new gliders. Of course There will be other gliders that came from other sources.

[warped oriole]

Sounds cool!

[wispy meadow]

IF THERES A BUTTERFLY GLIDER IM SO TAKING PART IN THIS!!!

[raw quail]

I'm hoping for a parachute-like-glider in mushroom-form 😄

[warped oriole]

...Sea manta glider for something underwater?

[silent cairn]

Yeah I'd be really down for stuff like that. There was prior discussion about whether to include content like that which people with some disabilities apparently cannot do, but if it is completely optional and gives only stylistic rewards, I think everyone would be down.

[warm plover]

Palcakes

[surreal crest]

nope, but I don't want it to be super-serious casino. I want to have some games where luck has more influence on the game than players skills. Makao is simple and me and my friends spent 4 years of our school perfecting the rules to our liking. We call it "the Ultimate Makao"

[bright forge]

Maybe a reward for gathering some number of Palia butterfly species?

[bright forge]

Hi Rin!

[warm plover]

bonk

[inner pecan]

that sounds like you're eating your friends 😆

[trail umbra]

Omnizone yall

[warm plover]

Who said I wasn't?

chomp

[wispy meadow]

I just got another YouTube recommendation for Palia lmao

[silent cairn]

oh right, reminder of a really nice idea I saw someone say which is calling everyone not Palians, but Pals

[surreal crest]

frens

[warm plover]

its disappointing that the pal in palia is pronounced pay

[raw quail]

okay guys gotta go, still have a lot of exams in the next few weeks and need to study have a nice timezone! 😄

[trail umbra]

I just wanna know who Leah is so I can pay her and get this game.

[silent cairn]

true, I completely somehow overlooked that when pronouncing it in my head. That's so sad.

[surreal crest]

good luck!

[silent cairn]

you'll do great!!

[stone sierra]

i still prenouce it Pal

[broken marten]

yeah me too

[warm plover]

I pronounce it Pah-Leah on instinct

[wispy meadow]

Same

[silent cairn]

I've forcefully grown myself out of that instinct, haha

[inner pecan]

I'm a texan... so it's gonna be pay-lee-uh, no mater what i try 😋

[warm plover]

is texas even real

[inner pecan]

no, that's why i live inside the internets.

[wispy meadow]

Probably as real as Florida.... I think

[inner pecan]

ye gods

[warm plover]

ah, to escape the void. i can relate. i live in australia, which also doesnt exist

[broken marten]

yes

how is non existing going for you rin?

[warm plover]

Rin says:

[wispy meadow]

Meow

[warm plover]

i was trying to not exist but i guess i also say meow

[surreal crest]

XDD

[wispy meadow]

XD

[warm plover]

How do you guys say Hassian? I pronounce his name Ha-Shan

[wispy meadow]

Ha-shian

[broken marten]

hah si an

[warm plover]

oh we're all fairly close to each other

[grim harness]

If it’s the Indian name then has-san

Also hollup pal is pay? Then the game name is pay-ia?!

[warm plover]

pay-leah
sorry i meant pa is pay

[magic lance]

heh-see-uhn

[grim harness]

OHH that makes so much more sense now xD

[surreal crest]

Has-sia-n

[warm plover]

Source: i think nel posted a voice recording on the palia twitter once

[wispy meadow]

Nel has a voice?!?

[warm plover]

idk why i say "i think" in relation to things that i know happened

[magic lance]

Wasn't the headless horseman a hassian.

[grim harness]

Pretty sure the i in hassian is silent or the south Asian in me is gonna be upset

[wispy meadow]

Hassan is easier to say than Hassian

[warm plover]

https://twitter.com/playPalia/status/1400501903235051527

[wispy meadow]

Ahhh

[warm plover]

https://twitter.com/Neleimour/status/1400534372281815041?s=20
oh yeah heres confirmation that that is, in fact, nel's voice

[visual rivet]

0.0

[warm plover]

いっらしゃいませ、とかぉうきさん。英語を話す？

[wispy meadow]

????

[warm plover]

sorry, im asking if they know english

[visual rivet]

Yes~~~

[wispy meadow]

Ahh okay
Thanks for the translation

[warm plover]

Ah, okay, sorry!

[surreal crest]

you know Japanese?

[warm plover]

Just a little

[wispy meadow]

Write down the Rin lore ppl

[broken marten]

thats pretty cool rin

[muted warren]

good day

[surreal crest]

ooh that's nice!

[warm plover]

im not very good so its nothing to brag about
but it comes in handy sometimes

[deft sonnet]

almost 90k in the server boys

[oblique nest]

whats good people, can't sleep this evening so im here again

[trail umbra]

Hey Stone 😄

[wispy meadow]

I imagine by the time Palia comes out we're gonna be over 100k people

[warped oriole]

Probably.

[warm plover]

seems likely, given how far away that is

[surreal crest]

don't forget about lurkers B)

[deft sonnet]

for sure

there probably also be a boost at the second wave just like the first

[oblique nest]

saw a video about mmorpg the other day
qualities to have a successful mmo is

1. EXPERIENCED game dev
2. a long TIME to develop the big world and
3. LARGE player base ready and eager to get in
   So the more the merrier

[wispy meadow]

Check
Check
And check
This game looks like it might make it :D

[wispy meadow]

Also is this from Josh Strife Hayes?

[oblique nest]

I sure hope so, I've been looking for a enjoyable, relaxing and most importantly GOOD coop mechanics

And yeah it's JSH lol

[wispy meadow]

:D

Wonder if JSH will review this since it's MMO
But I'm hoping it will be a positive review

[oblique nest]

i can only hope, perhaps he does a positive news coverage about this and bring some more attention to this game

[inner pecan]

he generally seems fair, even when tongue in cheek. I like his videos.

[trail umbra]

Are people making guilds yet? Or like.. feeling out guilds?

[oblique nest]

i think neighborhoods/guilds can wait for now, we gotta know how to walk before run imo

[wispy meadow]

Guilds are called Neighborhoods
And there's a few already in the making

[surreal crest]

yep! there is.. @hidden lynx QoL guild and I think there is senior neighborhood forming
Me and Superscope are planning to opening a casino, there is some other businesses too

[oblique nest]

i think they dont call it guilds is because I heard it's suppose to be more "intimate" community? When I hear guilds I think of the more large and faceless kinda grouping from personal experience

[wispy meadow]

Neighborhoods, not guilds lol

[inner pecan]

idk where to begin looking for companions. except maybe here 😛

[trail umbra]

Senior neighborhood. That's the one for me. lol

[oblique nest]

i think folks who are active on here are more than happy to get into a gathering

[inner pecan]

shuffleboard tourneys?

[oblique nest]

we should test out the mechanic out alot too since that seems to be a focus on the dev team

[main nymph]

Hello friends, good morning!

[trail umbra]

Just make one giant neighborhood.

[oblique nest]

maybe a neighborhood with large amount of members upgrade into a city?

[silent cairn]

There's probably some deep philosophical statement in there about the whole world being our neighborhood.

[inner pecan]

now I have Mr Roger's theme playing in my head

would you be mine, could you be mine, won't you be my neighbor?

[heavy dew]

Mr Steve Rogers, justice and neighborhood

[oblique nest]

if we have open mic in the game just blast that while sending out neighborhood invites (please dont blast mic)

[wispy meadow]

BERRY!!! YOU'RE UP!

[oblique nest]

what time is it over at you lots? It's almost 4 am for me

[main nymph]

Well now someone will find it, but bass boosted@oblique nest. Whole neighborhood poppin

[wispy meadow]

6:55 pm

[bright forge]

1pm

[trail umbra]

0700 for meeee. Been up for 3 hours already 😄

[sacred zephyr]

hi can someone link me to specs requirement ? i have bad machine, intel i3 2340 and no gpu but this game seems like one of the few in existence i would drop hundreds of hours into

[broken marten]

8:55pm here

[main nymph]

AFAIK there are no official requirements yet @sacred zephyr

[trail umbra]

I do not believe a spec sheet has yet to be provided. Other than "really low requirements." CMIIW

[bright forge]

There are no specs at the moment but they aim for low spec

[lunar tundra]

There aren't specs yet, but the devs say it will run even on really low specs

[sacred zephyr]

:-D

[safe fern]

11:56 I'm hungry but break is still an hour D=

[heavy dew]

Tardis, Era, Ana nods in your direction

[trail umbra]

THE Sir Berry?

[heavy dew]

Perin, Frosty, Platypus keeps nodding

[sacred zephyr]

ive been saving to get a cheap mini gaming pc from aliexpress so this is great to find out about

[safe fern]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-nod-yes-robert-redford-beard-gif-10489927

[heavy dew]

I am A Sir Berry :3

[oblique nest]

i see you are in clip paint studio on your profile, living up your ART tag lol

[trail umbra]

IDK I only see one Sir Berry here. The Sir Legenberry

[broken marten]

hey berry

love your lochness lapras, looks awesome. well done

[heavy dew]

Art ain’t gonna make itself now is it

[oblique nest]

you got that right Sir, i happen to be composing on a more, traditional medium

[main nymph]

Depends if you made an AI that can take all of your ideas and experiences and condense it 🧐

[trail umbra]

I can't art to save my life.

[wispy meadow]

Sadly AI is not intelligent enough yet to have inspiration

[heavy dew]

My nightmare! To be outsourced by a robot

[warped oriole]

Big mood, Platypus.

[main nymph]

Better yet, we aren't intelligent enough to give them intelligence @wispy meadow 😉

[oblique nest]

i always wanted something to like, project out my dreams sometimes, that's when I had wild sci fi dreams earlier few years

[heavy dew]

Look up Clip Studio AI colorization.. you’ll be surprised

[wispy meadow]

I will, kinda interested now

[heavy dew]

I think S6 secretly has this technology and it’s how they’re making Palia so dreamy

[oblique nest]

HA, exposed!

[heavy dew]

Yeah that’s right I see you over there dream devs

[main nymph]

I'm currently torn between buying a 2in1 with a stylus or a smaller gaming laptop for school and field work (stacking of astronomical objects and general research) so both good battery life and graphics are beneficial... but I also wanna draw. So im torn between so many things. How does clip studio work with a stylus?

[trail umbra]

I can appreciate the heck outta art though. Just can't make it come from my own hands.

[oblique nest]

well there is something for everybody, I can do some artwork but something related to stem and im TOAST

[heavy dew]

You’ll have a field day scrolling through #🎨│old-palia-fan-art then

[regal swallow]

Another happy day. Happy Timezone my Pals

[heavy dew]

Don’t forget art also includes, writing, story telling, music, cooking, and all other things you can think of

[bright forge]

Hi Shrew!👋

[regal swallow]

What did you all think about the Q&A?

[oblique nest]

what QnA? there's a new one?

[celest maple]

I'd like to know about the core gameplay loop that we'll be doing. I hope they'll bring it up next QnA. It feels difficult to get stoked for the game when I don't even know what's going on in it.

[heavy dew]

Stoked for 3rd person camera = group photos with the gang

[safe fern]

#❓│old-team-answers-alpha

[regal swallow]

Let's take a selfie - Pow!

[silent cairn]

I was hoping there could have been either more questions answered or a little bit more substantial info given, but considering the NDA stuff, it is pretty solid.

[heavy dew]

Chapow*

[noble blade]

Do you think we will have character customization extend to being non-human?👀 if so I'd be an elf or furry character lol

[bright forge]

Short but I get few good things from it

[inner epoch]

Will Palia be upgraded to Unreal Engine 5?

[bright forge]

not on release

[heavy dew]

They’ve said humans for starters, and if I understood the premises that humans have now returned, I kinda want them to stay human only if that makes sense? But that’s my opinion

[winged basalt]

Morning everyone

[trail umbra]

Oh I've been through it :D! And you are right. Writing, stories, cooking! I can do those things. Shoot that makes me want to start writing again

[wispy meadow]

I can't wait for the npc stories from before humans come back

[oblique nest]

As berry have said, apparently the lore is that humans are some long lost species, and the world right now is all purple elfs and automatons, but i HEARD we could have the option for the latters in the future?

[noble blade]

Ah okies! Ya that makes sense for the story they have set up so far!

I'm super excited for this game. It's like my dream game from the info they have given so far😭

[heavy dew]

It’s like surpercharged Stardew Valley and I couldn’t be happier

[warped oriole]

I just saw the art style and third-person camera view and was hooked...

[oblique nest]

my favorite thing to do in GTA online is to just drive around and sight see, you can imagine why im into THIS game lol

[heavy dew]

Omg the art style.. proceeds to melt in art

[noble blade]

I knooow💖 I love stardew valley, animal crossing, sims, and the art style is amazing 👏

[celest maple]

We know nothing about the gameplay though.

[oblique nest]

as long as being a gardener is META i'm all for it

[heavy dew]

We know it’s centered around the off things in normal mmos, so gathering, crafting, fishing, building, etc and that’s all I need really

[celest maple]

can you download the game now?

[noble blade]

Im hoping I can tame animals and have pets that can follow 👏

[heavy dew]

Short answer is no not for a long while

[neat barn]

Doesn't it open to testers soon?

[heavy dew]

Longer one is that currently the game is only in pre-alpha which only 1400 people will partake in playtesting for, then there’s alpha and beta open and closed, most likely, not confirmed and to far in the future to be discussed, then release is est. 2024 iirc

[heavy dew]

No one but S6 knows

And I guess maybe the testers, outside of that who knows

[celest maple]

We know nothing about the core gameplay loop that'll keep us entertained for years.

[neat barn]

Pretty top secret hmmmm

[oblique nest]

hope I can get in the prealpha to get a feel for the thing, never been this excited for a game before

[regal swallow]

What everyone thinking about the hunter in #🌠│official-art

[neat barn]

Never ever?

[noble blade]

I'm a noob to using discord, but this server makes me want to participate! What is a server booster on here?

[heavy dew]

It’s 3 years down the road it’s a bit early for that

[heavy dew]

Server boosters basically just add onto the number of emotes allowed in the server as well as stickers!

[celest maple]

Not really since they're ready enough to have a pre alpha.

[broken marten]

Also increases audio quality etc

[heavy dew]

I think Nele said something about us having over 200 emote slots still available.. whoops

[tidal scroll]

yeah, lv3 servers have access to 250 emote slots

[heavy dew]

They’ll get to it when they get to it ^^

[restive glen]

Good morning everyone. Happy Friday!

[silent cairn]

I mean, we just know what Berry just said. They said in their new QnA that their core gameplay loop is more focused on the typically sideshow stuff like crafting, gathering, etc.

[oblique nest]

we can be pretty conservative with these timings, since you can almost never give a mmo TOO MUCH time

[warped oriole]

Happy Friday Chadd!

[noble blade]

ooooo

[tidal scroll]

oh, it's friday today? didn't even notice

[celest maple]

I think there's a bit too much hype around this project considering the track record of upcoming MMORPGs. It's fine being stoked for this game, but we spend literally hours typing here for a game we don't even know will release.

[restive glen]

I’d have more confidence than that 😉

[surreal crest]

aight, so? :O

[noble blade]

Is there any way I could become one?👀 I'm an artist

[dense star]

Happy Friday Everyone!

[silent cairn]

it's been funded nearly 50 million though. I don't know how it can not release.

[warped oriole]

It's about the community whether the game happens or not, I reckon

[heavy dew]

It’s a paid discord feature, look into nitro!

[broken marten]

It’s a paid monthly sub

Yep what berry said

[tidal torrent]

I am somewhat awake, happy Friday folks.

[tidal scroll]

if you get the $9.99/mo subscription, 2 boosts are included + any additional boosts are 30% off ($4.99/boost)

nitro classic doesn't include any boosts, but still gives you the discount + less features than the $9.99 subscription

[noble blade]

@heavy dew okies thank yew so much!😊🙏

[oblique nest]

remember star citizen?

[celest maple]

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't get our hopes up too much. Chronicles of Elyria, Dreamworld, Star Citizen, etc are all similar MMORPG projects that have been well funded and then ran away with the money.

[restive glen]

Keep the hype

[silent cairn]

I was really suppressing that memory.

[trail umbra]

CoE is a scam. 100%.

[celest maple]

I'm stoked for Palia, but I'm wary.

[restive glen]

I’m excited for the beta for coral island at the end of the month

[broken marten]

I gotta hit the hay good night guys and girls

[silent cairn]

That's fair enough. I guess we'll be able to tell once the pre-alpha testers get in and give their general NDA friendly impressions of whether there is a game or not.

[celest maple]

The problem is that alphas are so barebones that I'm afraid that people will write it off as a failed game the first few weeks of it. I see hundreds of people doing it with Ashes of Creation, complaining about bugs and lack of gameplay then they're not even out of the pre alpha.

[oblique nest]

best way I can think to support the game is just respect the devs and give them time

[heavy dew]

Hopefully that’s why they nitpicked the testers depending on activity

To get people who won’t just go “alpha dc’d failure bye”

[oblique nest]

people often think tester is like a easy job, but in reality it's just as important as anyother game dev jobs out there

[noble blade]

I think it will work out since the dev team are all experienced and have alot of passion for this project 👏

[heavy dew]

Not only that they have great community relations

[oblique nest]

this team does spark traits that can give us players a confidence boost

[silent cairn]

Welp, I guess we should just try to take those impressions from people who are more active in the community. If even they say its bad while having had a bias towards the game being good previously, then you'll know that it really must be.

[oblique nest]

important things are to look at the footages or experiences of your own to form YOUR OWN opinion and not just follow whoever said whatever

[warped oriole]

A good point.

[heavy dew]

Damn influencers these days

[main nymph]

Hey I take mild insult to that

[patent adder]

Hey friends ☺️

[restive glen]

To be fair. I found palia from an influencers reaction video haha

[warped oriole]

Hey Milky!

[silent cairn]

true. But then I gotta wait a year and ain't nobody got time for that.

[restive glen]

Hi milky

[surreal crest]

Hi Milky!

[warped oriole]

I spend too long scrolling through Alpha Beta Games and stumbled into here. Pretty good decision I'd say.

[patent adder]

Thanks friends ☺️ @surreal crest Did you finish Rin??

[surreal crest]

still working on it, Im trying to find best matching colors

[oblique nest]

it's fine to do things your own style, a good game development process should be able to keep lots of people engaged, so if you lose interest it's okay
I can't even promise MYSELF to keep interest over years and i see myself as enthusiastic

[manic sundial]

hello hope everyone is doing great and having their shiny pebbles 🪨

[patent adder]

I hope you're doing great as well Anggie ^^

[main nymph]

Today is going great so far! Late coming into work due to the guy with the key being late. Then my pants developed a hole in them because of an object that is sharp

[patent adder]

I ripped a big hole in my jeans yesterday at work too!

[celest maple]

I tripped slightly on my cat and spilled a bit of coffee. I also had a terrible start of my day, Danissl!

[patent adder]

I am very excited to see. You should DM it to me when you get it done ☺️

[oblique nest]

would it count if i drag yesterday on to today as a start? lol

[main nymph]

The worst part is its in the front, right beside the fly. So I know it's gonna get bigger so I am gonna try to leave early to get a new pair... not sure how to word thay.

[manic sundial]

I am doing decent food almost done and coffee time is just about now :3

[surreal crest]

I will! B)

[patent adder]

Yeah, mine was.. Not in an optimal place 👀 But I only work with one other guy, so it wasn't a big deal

[slim shard]

I'm hunting for a shiny Temtem right now and waiting for the Genshin Impact Stream to start in around 30min. We just had a lil downpour, and since Rain is my favourite weather that really made me happy! It's kinda dark outside and I love it because this is the perfect weather and atmosphere to get Comfy, enjoy some hot drinks, play Games, watch Twitch, engage with awesome people on Discord and just be lazy and cozy. 😄

[main nymph]

Yeah, I'm gonna definitely need to leave to get something. I'm not in the public eye but there's a chance. Lol

Oh and I haven't played temtem since only island one was out. How is it these days?@slim shard

[late hearth]

Gooooood mornin’!

[patent adder]

Morning ^^

[mint steppe]

Morning Palians!

[main nymph]

Morning!

[spark helm]

Evenning

the tax collector is here

[late hearth]

Okay so I had a question, we talk a lot about what features we’d like to see in the game, but what features would you rather be excluded?

[spark helm]

anything farming related or social interaction

[late hearth]

I see, 100% with you on that

[wispy meadow]

You might have the wrong idea about the game then lol

[spark helm]

hehehe

[warm plover]

I want there to be no woodcutting, or mining, or watering plants or placing decorations in homes

[wispy meadow]

Way too big grinds

[warped oriole]

Things that have to be in a group, strange as it sounds here. If I can make a spirited attempt at soloing something, I'd rather that.

[spark helm]

in fact get rid of the 3d models altogether

[wispy meadow]

Pffft

[late hearth]

How big are we talking here?

[wispy meadow]

Takes more than a week big

[late hearth]

Yikes, okay I agree. Unless of course the payoff is enormous

[celest maple]

i'm not placing decorations just for you to knock them over with your tail. so you have my support on that one

[late hearth]

I totally get that

[jovial moon]

Can I get that too?

[warped oriole]

Sure, here's some free samples

[jovial moon]

Yay!

[sullen mason]

awkwardly slides into chat

hey o/

[patent adder]

Hey friend

[warped oriole]

Hey! o7

[sullen mason]

I was yesterday too afraid to join the chat ^^ soo many people here

[random rampart]

i feel the same way a lot of the time 😅 i wonder how many of us lurkers there are

[surreal crest]

@warm plover psst... I finished . 3 . https://i.imgur.com/5FVYldg.png

[warm plover]

kitty....

[trail umbra]

I freakin love that

[warm plover]

@patent adder look its me

[patent adder]

Yeah he dm'd me I like it ☺️

[surreal crest]

I'm glad you like it :D I thought about going after "knowledge master" theme, since Rin does the google doc and everything B)

[celest maple]

Well done, that looks really good.

[sullen mason]

uhh I love heroforge!

[surreal crest]

same, I spent like 10 hours in total there so far, It's addictive

[warm plover]

knowledge master
mister i am dumb as a brick

[warped oriole]

A brick filled with knowledge!

[warm plover]

no a regular brick

[surreal crest]

aight, even if that would be true (which it isn't!) you don't have to be smart to gather knowledge B) also you can look like you are smart boi B)

[warm plover]

🐈
have you ever met a cat that wasnt dumb as hell

[jovial moon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-my-man-friends-high-five-gif-22202932

[knotty raft]

Cats are super-intelligent! Except 1 of my 5 cats, he's... more like a dog 🤣

[warm plover]

understandable tbh

[surreal crest]

you can actually raise a cat like a dog, if you have 2 dogs already.

[patent adder]

Not gonna lie, your pfp is a lil spooky. I am glad my goat has his eyes covered 👀

[civic basin]

Ello Palians, any gossips today to share?

[jovial moon]

:3

[surreal crest]

People talk that... Pebble prices are going up.

[warped oriole]

No way! Not the pebbles!

[civic basin]

They have no shame! I shall switch to sticks

[sly dagger]

lol

[sullen mason]

I always create my characters for dnd there 🙂
Here is my little Jay (Javion) https://imgur.com/wH91qtC

[warped oriole]

What if you put pebbles on sticks... Make a cool staff

[surreal crest]

outrageous, I know. We should invest in pebblecoin instead.

[warm plover]

I have a D&D character I like a lot
His name is Amber Arpeggio. Tabaxi bard

[surreal crest]

I love his colors! very nice. I also did this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816609467750940712/862606802091507723/213631297_243060714045069_1487244457823339906_n.png

[civic basin]

Oh I like this pebble coin, can I buy more chappas with it

[sullen mason]

I love to be a PC but I always have to be DM .. soo I got like a bunch of NPCs but like only 5 PCs xD

[surreal crest]

I've heard something about this new currency, chappacoin was the name I think.

Buy high, sell low, that's the rulez 😎

[wispy meadow]

My only DnD character so far is a Tortle rogue called Chewy Moss

[jovial moon]

one time in high school i spent the entire day counting how many licks it took to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop

[sullen mason]

Its she/they ^^ but its fine .. a lot of people make that mistake (and then she cuts their throats .. she is my only "evil" character)

What a cool character! wow they is an Tiefling right?

[jovial moon]

I had a ledger, I kept track

[sullen mason]

sooo sweet.. I wanna play one.. they are so cool
One day I'll play the Master Oogway lol

[jovial moon]

Yup!

[late hearth]

So what was the magic number?

[jovial moon]

That was like a billion years ago

I think it was around 15,000ish

[surreal crest]

oh sorry, English is not my native language, I sometimes use "he" for female characters too, just a bad habit haha

oh yeah, I wanted something that says "that's not my final form"

[jovial moon]

They were mean!

[random rampart]

sheeeesh i applaud your commitment 👏

[jovial moon]

I wish the teachers felt the same way

[boreal helm]

Open world pvp is right out for me, but i dont think this is that type of game. Items that have no use. Like beds when there is no sleep/tiredness mechanic. Eso is like that, and its really irritating! I don't mind auction houses, but when you have to use a web site outside of the game to see what the average selling price is super annoying. Fan service, or religious stuff, like having to worship at a statue to get something you want. Those two really kill the fun for me. And generally crafting systems that don't really benefit the player. Guild Wars 2 is like that with their cooking discipline. You work hard to level up your cooking but in 99% of the game play it isn't needed. I think that is why I like modded rl craft for minecraft so much, because character survival needs food, sleep, medicine. You need to craft to survive. Its so disheartening to be out crafting or farming items and stop in the middle of your efforts and ask yourself. Why am I doing this? My character doesn't need all this crap!

[surreal crest]

Im fine with beds as long as I can sit on them at least. Lying animation or just "resting" would be cool tho.

[jovial moon]

Add diseases so I can spread love to everyone

[night kraken]

Agreed. Even if they don't have a proper function, just as an rp element they are nice to have around.

[sullen mason]

don`t worry 🙂 Its fine you did'nt knew.. and they only gets angry in character (I use her to teach my group pronouns haha)

hahahah. we got an half-elf who got a golden mask on their face which is burnt into their skin .. My character always wants to steal it to see whats beneath it haha

[oblique nest]

would they just be left with a... burnt face that's bleeding from the mask being ripped off?

[warped oriole]

Yeah, I don't really want a super realistic game with hunger, tiredness etc. but some cosmetic-level use of furniture would be nice.

[sullen mason]

Those little details.. they make a game "fun" for me.. I could sit for hours on a bed ingame and sip tea

[warped oriole]

Yes! That's cool!

[surreal crest]

it's gotta be a theme for everything tho. Good mechanics are when Player looks at something and first thought that they have is "oh, I can touch this and animation will play"

[echo jasper]

It's friiiiidayyy!! Happy timezone all

[late hearth]

I really love that idea!

[sullen mason]

I guess so.. but at least its not my burnt face haha
(and I guess that Notos would be quite angry with me then)

[celest maple]

just flicked over into Saturday here! happy timezone to you too!

[sullen mason]

@crisp shadow was like "add diseases" .. all I can think of is a pandemic ingame rn .. ohh no .. oh nooo

[jovial moon]

:3

[surreal crest]

like WoW plague?

[oblique nest]

reminds of the uh, corrupt blood

[jovial moon]

Sharing is caring

Rude!

[boreal helm]

For medicine im thinking something like a animal bite or you fell off your glider in mid air and using bandages. For a bed, at least give me some sort of boon like well rested were you can learn crafting faster or something!

[surreal crest]

no cracking sounds tho, please, for the love of everything

[jovial moon]

hehehe

[warped oriole]

Aw man, I sense a tonne of fall damage in my future if that's added...

[late hearth]

Okay okay, hear me out, a hammock

[warped oriole]

Automatic yes!

[sullen mason]

"Palia Ver. 1.5 - The big diseases update" - now all your lifestock and your friends can get sick. Ain't that fun?! With an entire new tech tree system where you can research for medicine against the diseases. Yet be careful ! There can always be a variant you can't control.

[oblique nest]

imagine taking too much fall dmg and you had to be in a crutch for a week ingame

[sullen mason]

That was a little dark .. uff sorry ^^

[surreal crest]

yeah, enough of this crap in one reality XD

[boreal helm]

and your friends come over with food to help you get better faster!

[oblique nest]

and maybe that will make you recover faster!

[surreal crest]

Einar carries you around and takes you fishing

[jovial moon]

Or help you spread it faster 😻

[wispy meadow]

As long as a week in-game is less than a day irl

[jovial moon]

Never!

[oblique nest]

i heard ingame day is a irl hour

[warped oriole]

A golem mount to carry you around! (A relative/copy of Einar?)

[surreal crest]

smol Einar

[boreal helm]

bummer. Longer than minecraft though, its only 20 min!

[oblique nest]

not sure how final that aspect is

[jovial moon]

Too fast

[deft sonnet]

Give Einar all your pebbles

[boreal helm]

same

[oblique nest]

just do "ginger garlic scallion" and get max flavor points

[warped oriole]

There'll be a huge party once we all get in

[sullen mason]

Wasnt there a multi stage cooking system or something ? I kinda forgot

[oblique nest]

maybe we can do POTLUCK

[jovial moon]

Time to google the etymology of Potluck

[oblique nest]

oh my god a POTLUCK EVENT even, and different people who get different harvest is gonna cook different things

[rose bison]

what is potluck event?

[jovial moon]

"North American indigenous communal meal potlatch"

[abstract tusk]

Good morning folks 👋🏾

[boreal helm]

done weekly to meet new people in the neighborhood

[oblique nest]

potluck is where bunch of people gather and bring a dish that they cook themselves

[rose bison]

ooh

its sound nice

[oblique nest]

oh yeah, its all coming together

[surreal crest]

Pebbles for the Pebble god!

[jovial moon]

Alittle x-x

[warped oriole]

You eat the pebbles?

[wispy meadow]

Weekly Brunch?

[warped oriole]

Or are we giving the pebbles to Einar- oh alright

[wispy meadow]

Are you an owl?

[sullen mason]

I will search now... I got a goal for the next hour

[warped oriole]

Is Einar the pebble god?

[wispy meadow]

Yeah sorry... Guardians of Gahoole reference 😅

[magic lance]

Have seen an event called "Battle Hotpot".
Your Team as 2 hrs to gather items from the Forrest, then you have 30 mins to make a Hotpot out of those items found 😄

[sullen mason]

people in the search section be like "cooking contest instead of pvp fights" lol... that would be ..

[oblique nest]

competitive cooking esport

[silent cairn]

Not sure how indepth it is, but cooking has been mentioned a lot in passing examples and it has been said that the food made by a skilled cook will be better than the one made by a beginner. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

[boreal helm]

Im all for that!

[jovial moon]

Hosted by Rordan Gamsey

XD

[silent cairn]

always suggest to check out #❔│game-faqs #❓│old-team-answers-alpha and most importantly the doc pinned in this channel which contains a bunch of info on a ton of aspects of the game.

[celest maple]

Good time zone everyone. I hope you all have a wonderful day.

[silent cairn]

no prob, just filling in for the regulars who usually tell people about this stuff, hehe

[mint steppe]

[oblique nest]

alright im gonna focus on doing a zentangle piece i just come up with, gonna be a sick fan art I feel
laters people!

[sullen mason]

maybe this will answer the question.. but not quite
#❓│old-team-answers-alpha message

[surreal crest]

good luck!

[wintry atlas]

Just to add onto Sane's message re. the FAQ - It is also there as a way to highlight that we really don't know too much intrinsic detail about the game. If you're looking for answer and you can't find it in the FAQ, chances are; we don't have an answer - but please ask away; everyone in here will give you an answer or reply with "Soon" emote.

[hidden spindle]

@normal coral you are here!

[silent cairn]

hahaha, I think that's happened to every discord user once or twice in their life.

[hidden spindle]

everyone meet @normal coral !!! she's awesome and i'm not biased at all!

[normal coral]

😆

[silent cairn]

Welcome!!

[sullen mason]

Heyho !

[boreal helm]

Dont be to hard on yourself, seems like our budding community is pretty kind and forgiving, though quirky.😉

[normal coral]

Hello I, me

[jovial moon]

I wish I was me

[hidden spindle]

you can be!

[sullen mason]

Me wish me was I

[jovial moon]

😮

[north aspen]

Hello ☺️ I'm new and wanted to say a quick hi!

[normal coral]

We are all I

[hidden spindle]

me = No Pre-Alpha = sad

[jovial moon]

The only me is me, are you sure the only you is you?

[boreal helm]

same, but maybe we will get another chance

[sullen mason]

Me never understood how "I" works so me being me and you being I ... ok?

[north aspen]

I am confused to what is going on, but I love the chaotic vibes 😌

[jovial moon]

Be careful, the crack in the door, it's another world

[patent adder]

Hopefully in the next 1200 you get in 👀

[hidden spindle]

blame @normal coral , it all started when she came!

[north aspen]

Pfff, alright 😂

[normal coral]

No!

[craggy niche]

your pfp, no fking way

[crisp shadow]

@jovial moon Are you sure the only me is I? We're only 1 character apart...

[sullen mason]

I just joined .. and feel the chaos

[wintry atlas]

Don't tease us Milky! 😢

[patent adder]

I don't tease I am genuine 🥺

[north aspen]

Chaos is nice 😌

[jovial moon]

😮

[hidden spindle]

hey!!! @normal coral , how did you get a colored name! sooooo not fair.....

[celest maple]

Don't expect getting in, some people have hinted at there being hundreds of thousands of applicants to the pre alpha.

[craggy niche]

#📃│server-directory

[normal coral]

You need to pick a Role @hidden spindle

[hidden spindle]

you cheated, I'm sure of it @normal coral

[wispy meadow]

Lol

[hidden spindle]

Hax0r!!!

[silent cairn]

by the way Milky, do you guys know why the pre-alpha hasn't started yet? I'm guessing if you do know you can't say why publicly, but still.

[whole coral]

I know this is kinda random but I sorta wish the number they had chosen was 4400 so the pre-alpha could be The 4400 😳

[smoky radish]

Back on the grind peeps! How's everyon2!

[jovial moon]

There can be only 12! >:o

[normal coral]

I just picked the colours I like.. go for it

[craggy niche]

what if I expect to? you can't change my hopes and dreams, they're my determination, I made a decision days ago that I would get the role and i wont surrender

[wintry atlas]

Yeah spill the beans Milky, Duck ain't looking in the chat.

[surreal crest]

that's the spirit Lucio

[craggy niche]

change my mind now if u can

[patent adder]

My little goat brain can only hold so much knowledge, and unfortunately I don't have the answers 🥺

[crisp shadow]

@jovial moon How do you get a red name?

[smoky radish]

I'm amazing, chilling while grinding. Had some pretty good sleep. Not too much not too little!

[craggy niche]

thanks mystic chair, I am sure you'll get it too cause you're so mystic and pretty chair

[surreal crest]

awu ~~♥

[hidden spindle]

she chose her pronouns!

[jovial moon]

By having certain body parts

[silent cairn]

Dang. Well, I assume we'll hear if you guys get in or figure out what's up.

[hidden spindle]

click on a picture and it will tell you their roles

[craggy niche]

I like how it sounds

[jovial moon]

lol

[craggy niche]

Ok, signed then

[sullen mason]

Ain't that a bird .. or did I miss something ^^

[patent adder]

Are you talking about my profile picture?!

[jovial moon]

"My little Goat Brain" sounds like a childrens cartoon series

[sullen mason]

Ohh I just saw the goat ... surrry

[patent adder]

One persons children cartoon series is another persons reality 👀

[normal coral]

Best tea drinker out there

[patent adder]

It is a gif, you can open my profile for gif ☺️

[silent cairn]

By the way, guys - what do you think of this art. I at first thought that this is early artwork of the village in the trailer as it looks similar with the windmills, but I looked back and saw some people saying that this could be Bahari Town. https://palia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Media-Carousel04.jpg

[hidden spindle]

i need the 411, chuu or chappa and why?

[warm plover]

bold of you to claim when uncle iroh exists

[sullen mason]

You`re just thinking about the most horrifying children's series ever next to the teletubbies .. "my little pony"

[craggy niche]

yeah, you smurfing with that pfp tbh

[jovial moon]

Perfect!

[hidden spindle]

@normal coral he's challenging you!!! he must not have seen your profile pic!!!

[normal coral]

Tea off?

[jovial moon]

Pretty!

[warm plover]

have you SEEN uncle iroh. hes too powerful. you would not survive

[normal coral]

Bring it on!

[hidden spindle]

this is getting dangerous!

[mint steppe]

Uncle Iroh yes

[warm plover]

should we do a poll to decide

[hidden spindle]

i'm scared!!!!

[surreal crest]

Uncle Iroh is such a good character

[normal coral]

I'll protect you.. I'm a tea-rex after all

[hidden spindle]

is it bad that i do not know Uncle Iroh?

[jovial moon]

Yis

[sullen mason]

Iroh .. the real firelord

[normal coral]

I've got no idea either

[warm plover]

React with if you think Uncle Iroh would win in a tea-off
React with if you think Tea-Rex would win in a tea-off

[shut marten]

Just read through the new team answers and working there sounds like a dream job, a hard job but in a wonderful environment

[normal coral]

Just throwing words out atm

[sullen mason]

It's Iroh .. he is tea ...

[normal coral]

I've got no idea what I'm saying

[hidden spindle]

me neither!

[main nymph]

@warm plover I would win in a tea off

[patent adder]

I don't either. I am not sure what is happening ☺️

[jovial moon]

I'm half asleep and half drunk still

[normal coral]

He is drinkable?

[hidden spindle]

you are losing, Tea-Rex!!! i'm gonna die!

[sullen mason]

I really loved that series .. and Iroh is the best of all

[warm plover]

drunk on what? tea?

[craggy niche]

YO GUYS DID YOU REALLY MISS THAT SPOILER?

[hidden spindle]

/deaded

[normal coral]

I will flail my tiny T-rex arms!!

[sullen mason]

adequate .. yea

[jovial moon]

margeretas X)

[crisp shadow]

Is the tea cup half full or half empty?

[south tree]

[craggy niche]

Palia will be a videogame, wtf amazing

[normal coral]

Tea should always be full full

[hidden spindle]

Sake!

[craggy niche]

yeah i feel the same

[shut marten]

by the way, happy timezone everyone!

[jovial moon]

yum!

[craggy niche]

what does this mean

[normal coral]

Jasmine green tea, no milk or sugar

[hidden spindle]

@normal coral puppy tears

[shut marten]

OH THAT GAVE ME ALL THE FEEEEELS

[sullen mason]

I`d really like to see the world as open as that https://palia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Media-Carousel05.jpg
I live in a city and I really miss the landside ( is it the right english term? I'm not native)

[crisp shadow]

No sweet tea for me. I like it as it is naturally.

[normal coral]

Tea is delicious as it is.. no need for anything else

[craggy niche]

I see, here we say good morning everyone

[jovial moon]

All good teas go to heaven

[shut marten]

I learned it here yesterday, because so many timezones it's a bit weird saying good morning and all that

for me its afternoon actually

[craggy niche]

happy timezone sounds me like if we were on a international day of timezones :/

[crisp shadow]

It's a good morning even if it's evening.

[patent adder]

Did you change your name yesterday? 😮

[shut marten]

Yes and omg thats so sweet of you to notice!

[craggy niche]

milky is literally the major of this chat, he lives here

[patent adder]

Of course I noticed, you are friend. How could I not have? 🥺

[normal coral]

Have a good day!

[shut marten]

hope you have a good work day!

[craggy niche]

yo @latent wedge have a good day bro, saturday is right at the corner

[jovial moon]

I need to go to a Ska Concert, I miss Skanking

[patent adder]

I just pay attention to friends ☺️ And coincidentally all of everyone is friend.

[craggy niche]

i miss elementsix already

[jovial moon]

me 3

[craggy niche]

hahaha didn't see that coming

[patent adder]

How is everyone doing today? ^^

[mint steppe]

I just recorded my daughter watching the Palia announcement trailer on the big screen with her reaction.

[warm plover]

what did she think of it

[echo jasper]

You're so wholesome milky! I'm good

[patent adder]

Whaaat. That is probably adorable ☺️

[surreal crest]

pretty good, working on another minifigure B) and you?

[mint steppe]

She screamed. :3

[boreal helm]

where! I wana see!

[craggy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/so-quiet-it-so-quiet-in-here-gif-12263863

[patent adder]

Awwh no, I am not that wholesome. Thank you though! I am glad you are doing well. :3

[craggy niche]

literally when this chat is still for 1 min

[somber crag]

Morning/afternoon/evening, lovelies. 👏🏻

[patent adder]

Ooh.. Someone specific this time again?

[craggy niche]

apparently, palia will be a videogame, that's what we just could reveal

[surreal crest]

Lady Brittany 👀

[silent cairn]

Agreed. And I believe the right term is countryside. Close enough

[jovial moon]

"Hey everyone, we're proud to announce that Palia was a Prank"

[surreal crest]

"lmao we got you"

[jovial moon]

XD

[patent adder]

Ooh.. nice nice ☺️

[somber crag]

I got to work 4 minutes ago, but I'd rather spend the next 8 hours talking about Palia.

[void imp]

I LOVE THE FANTASTIC MR FOX

[patent adder]

How'd you know 👀 🐐

[somber crag]

LOL. Me toooooo, yes. One of my top tens, definitely. 🦊

[jovial moon]

I have sources 👀

[patent adder]

[surreal crest]

nomi I need you to tell me what you like. Im making your minifigure later on B)

[wintry atlas]

Chronicles of Palia 👀

[void imp]

so good. someone made ash's bedroom in vrchat and it's so comforting.

[patent adder]

Hey, Nomi. Hope you're doing well ^^

[void imp]

hi milky! 👋

[crisp shadow]

@sullen mason I've already feed the chickens, chased the chipmunk, and nudged the little rabbit today. The deer left a few hours ago. Lots of country here. 🙂

[void imp]

aww 🥺 wanna see my paliasona?

[somber crag]

Imagine a Palia map in VR. 👀👀

[surreal crest]

yes.

[void imp]

#🎨│old-palia-fan-art message

you can also model it after my profile pic if that's what you had planned

[patent adder]

Awwh those are cute. I hadn't seen them before ☺️

[crisp shadow]

@somber crag I'd like to see a whole Palia in VR and fly around in it!

[surreal crest]

that's the plan, but it's smol so I needed something bigger. I have an idea now, thanks!

[boreal helm]

Was reading an article about the game and found this. “Over time, we’ll have both combat and combat-like experiences, but players will be able to opt out of those experiences,” Karabaich said.

so some combat coming? Eventually?

[dusty cargo]

G'day everyone ^^

[patent adder]

Hey there ^^

[void imp]

!! glad you stumbled across her now :DD thank you

[finite sparrow]

Wish me luck palians! Today instead of actually working, I'm going to go read everything in #❓│old-team-answers-alpha .

[void imp]

whee, thank you too!!

[warm plover]

i should do vrchat stuff again
but i get anxious whenever i get on lol

[boreal helm]

found the quote here, https://venturebeat.com/2021/07/01/singularity-6-raises-30m-as-it-readies-launch-of-its-peaceful-mmo-palia/

[patent adder]

Alright, friends. Sleep time. I hope you all behave 👀 🐐

[dusty cargo]

Gnight milks!

[boreal helm]

sounds like its going to be pve

[void imp]

good nighty milky love

[warm plover]

nooo milky dont leave me

pat pat
okay you can leave now

[patent adder]

Sorry friend, I must. Sleep is calling my name ☺️

[warm plover]

im also calling your name
MILKYYYYY

[void imp]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-hug-monsters-inc-sully-warmhug-gif-10592083

[boreal helm]

I suspect, so i could definitely be wrong, that they may be finishing up the home and crafting portions of the game and then work on the pve aspect and sell it as a separate expansion? Just speculation though.

[whole shoal]

I'm curious how many of you would buy the game, as the initial release, then buy future expansions/DLCs - and also if you'd prefer to be able to play just the base game without having to own DLCs/expansions - or if you actually prefer having such a thing as DLCs/expansions, or just continuous content updates

[brittle delta]

Hey friends hope you all have a wonderful timezone

[celest maple]

Whether or not I'll buy it is up to how the core gameplay loop will look like. I'm still confused as to how there's this sustained hype for a video game in a contentious genre that's not even in pre alpha yet whose end game gameplay we don't even know if it's fun or not.

[crisp shadow]

@whole shoal I would consider expansions if they were no more frequent than once per year, but I generally prefer to pay once plus have a cosmetics shop.

[celest maple]

If it's fun I'll gladly purchase expansions, DLC and spend on the cosmetics shop. I hope there'll be ways to buy the micro transactions with actual in game currency like in WoW though.

[whole shoal]

I'm honestly agains a cosmetics shop. One thing WoW did great until the recent years was having all content available via gameplay/rewards - and that's what pulled me towards WoW in the first place.

[whole shoal]

I thought at both expansions and DLCs. Maybe have huge content expansions as free upgrades while certain areas as DLCs (with housing, special quests) being paid or purchasable with premium currency. But it would be nice to have 2 ways of content updates, both free and paid so that the people that don't want to spend money or are extremely casual are not forced to pay unnecessarily, I guess.
I'm just thinking, that for some casual players that would just enjoy the game after a day of hard work, they might prefer to not pay extra besides the base game but still be able to enjoy an ever increasing world.

[celest maple]

As long as it doesn't cost too much. The latter part about there being both free and paid content is something I agree with though, especially if there were ways to introduce people to the game for free as a demo version á Tibia and World of Warcraft.

[mortal cloak]

Exactly. It's great to look at someone and think "Oh wow, they completed this tough achievement, they must be a dedicated player."
Not "Oh wow, they spent £20 on this gear in the shop. They must have a lot of spare cash."

[somber crag]

It do be feeling bad when there's all these pretty cosmetics you can't get your hands on because money.

[whole shoal]

The thing with costs of DLC and expansions nowadays is that they're heavily related to the cosmetics/misc shop available in-game and that, for the most part, the latter ruin the game experience of "I actually did something interesting and got rewarded for it" instead of "eh if the event ends I'll just pay $20, as said above, and get that misc item anyway"

[obsidian light]

I only like those if you know there's part of the purchase going to a charity

[whole shoal]

I mean, I really do NOT mind a cosmetics shop, it's just that most of the time it is designed so bad and makes it feel like you can't look cool without dishing that couple extra bucks into the game

[boreal helm]

I dont mind cosmetics as long at the game play is good and there are no monthly fees, it helps the game pay the bills. Though i never really got into wow, was more a guild wars 2 person. Their expansions gave you access to more map and classes.

[deft sonnet]

Did ya get some sleep last night?

[whole shoal]

here's a nice idea. maybe 20-40% of in-game shop cosmetics sales could go to a different charity every month, I think this would ... remove some stigma around item/cosmetics shops and people will buy more from them

[crisp shadow]

It costs money to keep the servers running, and after the initial rush when the game is young the new game purchases probably won't bring in enough revenue to keep the lights on, so I think they need another way to be able to pay the bills on an ongoing basis.

[whole shoal]

ofc, that's a big part to consider. I just don't want them to create a bland cosmetic shop made just to reap in as much money from players as possible. I want one that's actually designed and doesn't create a huge FOMO feeling throughout the playerbase

[mortal cloak]

Oh for sure - what I'm really wary of is games (naming no names) quadruple-dipping into monetisation. A box price, a subscription, a cosmetics shop, and things that provide an in-game boost for real money.

[tropic hill]

I agree with the idea that too often cosmetic shops are implemented in bad/predatory ways. The basic concept of one though, I think enables people that don't have the time to be able to to use what they do have, which may be money. What's important is that there are equally good and better cosmetics that are earned in game, so that the shop isn't the only place to get good fashion. A couple of the above comments I feel like could easily go the other way for someone that wishes they had more time.

"Oh wow, they spent 20hrs on this gear. They must have a lot of spare time."
"It do be feeling bad when there's all these pretty cosmetics you can't get your hands on because time."

[whole shoal]

this is why it's hard finding a good middle way for this particular issue 😅

[slim shard]

It all depends on the Devs. Cosmetics can be done right. I think FF14's Cosmetic Shop is pretty good! Besides the Armor of the Story Characters, there's no super awesome End-Game-Like looking Gear with Mega-Glow, Super Wings and Fireworks-Sparks available there but mainly Cozy, Festive and Traditional Outfits as well as all the things from previous Seasonal Events. But you can't buy anything on there that makes you look like you're the most Badass End-Game player in the World. The majority of good looking Armor, and tons of Casual Outfits, can be obtained InGame by simply playing the Game, collecting Materials and Craft it or buy it from the Acution House.

[crisp shadow]

I typically won't get (or stay) involved in a game if there is a monthly subscription. It makes me feel like I'm wasting my money because I can't play on a consistent basis.

[whole shoal]

Maybe they'll implement rare/limited cosmetics in the shop but then allow those to be traded/sold to other players for in-game currency; this way both people with more time and those with more money on their hands can win

[oak ice]

is there going to be a monthly fee or is that just a wow comparison?

[whole shoal]

just pure speculation at the moment 😅

[boreal helm]

we dont know yet, so wow comparison.

[crisp shadow]

We love speculating...

[oak ice]

ok just checking 🙂

[whole shoal]

Love is an understatement I guess

[obsidian light]

I mean people who make games like to eat too, but I'd say it's better to have a pet linked to a specific charity, which has a goal to be met when released, and then the pets bought after the goal/time has passed the pet/mount/item can no longer be purchased, making it that people buy it when it matters, and that seeing the specific thing actually is a way of awareness for the different goal 🙂 and it brings unique things to the game

[crisp shadow]

As long as nothing as known, the game can be exactly what we want. 😉

[whole shoal]

anyhow, monetisation is tricky so I hope they do it right and try to avoid those predatory approaches that we see so often nowadays

[mortal cloak]

Definitely - it all depends on what people want from an MMO. To me an MMO is primarily a time sink, but I'm aware that players especially in other regions (e.g. Korea) think that money lets you cut corners IRL, why not in-game too?

[boreal helm]

If they don't, I'm noping out of this.

[whole shoal]

A lot of things can be done with the right ideas behind them, and a lot of money can be made if those ideas are applied correctly. Nobody is saying that Palia shouldn't get a cent from us, I just thing that, given their approach on game atmosphere and such, they should avoid being predatory - if they go the right way, with full transparency, they might even come up with the most profitable monetization suite we've seen so far (if they implement/adapt to charity donation, wellbeing, and so on).

[orchid veldt]

I'dd say so it like guild wars 2 you pay price A you get the game, finance running costs and new content with an expansion at price B. It's fair, you know what you get and it can work for developers too

[wintry atlas]

The issue being, predatory is a subjective term. To anyone in a full time job out of college / university, a £10 / $10 skin is peanuts. But to those not in that position, cumulative skins released at that price would be predatory.

[whole shoal]

Highly subjective, but seeing the devs so far, I think they can/could come up with something that is considered generally objective(?).
Regarding the second part, any student in Europe might consider passing on this game if it comes with a price tag - so again, it depends on their target audience and what .. continent they'd like to draw in more.

[woeful sedge]

Mhm. Essentially if the game is anything but free/one time payment, people will argue either side, that too much is locked behind a paywall or that they can’t get enough out of their money. You can’t really make an objectively fair payment situation because everyone’s financial scenarios are different.

[orchid veldt]

In terms if money yes, but in terms of value for money... I'dd say no I have never and will never pay 10 bucks for a skin alone. Which does reinforce your point that value is highly subjective

[obsidian light]

Don't make the game free, that invites abuse

[mortal cloak]

"Free to play" generally means "Infinitely monetisable through in-game purchases"

[woeful sedge]

Oh yeah, not what I was trying to say lol

[main nymph]

Paying $10 for a skill? Hell nah. Paying $10 for a random set of 5 or so dyes to change the color of the skin? Hell yes. Did I mention the dyes are random colors with no guarantee? Double hell yes @orchid veldt

Oh wait.

[wintry atlas]

I desperately do not wish to assume anything or set the wrong mood / tone; but it is very easy information to find who Palia's investors are & what games those investors have backed before.

Without knowing the industry and making the assumption that the transactions in game are investor decisions alone - you should assume there will be a cash shop of some kind.

I think gamers will change their mindset overtime on the cost of extras because they'll be grinded down. I've been young, i remember the feeling, it does suck.

[celest maple]

one behavior I personally find to be predatory is a very particular pricing strategy some games like Apex Legends use. you may be able to buy currency in lots of 10 or 20. But the cosmetic you're after will be something uneven like 23

[orchid veldt]

Agreed, smack a AAA standard price on initial purchase and either use expansion to further finance or monthly sub (latter wouldn't be my preference though)

[main nymph]

The thing is, games are not able to run on buy to play models without a cash shop

[slim shard]

I would under certain circumstances. I'm paying 10 bucks a month if I want to play FF14. So if I get myself a F2P Game and really like it and spent a lot of time playing it, I see no harm in getting myself one 10 bucks Skin per month. Not only will I get a permanent Skin for my Character but I'll also Support the Game in the same way I did support FF14 with my monthly sub.

[obsidian light]

I kind of like subscriptions, you pay to use it, when you dont pay you're not using it, it seems fair to both sides

[main nymph]

Most consumers cannot fathom how much running servers and paying salaries cost, and yes. Initially they can afford it... but not as people drop off and the dlc sells less than half the original.

This is exactly why I love wow. Subscription, pets and mounts are extra, plus expansions cost. It's fair for everyone @obsidian light

[whole shoal]

If done right, the Palia-verse can spawn a ton of merch as well - and we all know that merch sells so good it could even sustain part of the dev costs without any in-game shop- but I might be wrong.

[wintry atlas]

Obviously i'm going to walk on a fine line of off-topic (please be kind Ducky!) - but Europeans and FIFA go hand in hand. Many of my friends have dropped a lot of money over the years on packs.

If it's pitched right, people will just justify it as the cost of a night out not taken.

[orchid veldt]

That assumption is very reasonable, stating that investors wouldn't turn any stone for additional profit would be naive indeed. It's too the players however if such practices thrive or die out

[crisp shadow]

@obsidian light If you don't pay for a few months wouldn't you loose everything you had built up for your character?

[main nymph]

That's not how mmos work on a sub model @crisp shadow

[obsidian light]

I still have my wow character from when i was 14... dont think so?

[boreal helm]

I wonder how guild wars 2 does so well with their purchase prices then?

[main nymph]

They have a cash shop @boreal helm

[wintry atlas]

Probably law of large numbers - sells so many copies. But i thought it had ingame purchases now also, no?

[main nymph]

They also have a slight"urgency" forcing your hand on those cosmetics as well as they do not stay. You either buy it or you miss it

[boreal helm]

right, but its only for cosmetics and life convenience stuff. no pay to win. The items always come back, you just have to be patient.

[main nymph]

No one said pay to win. We said cash shop. Cosmetics are still cash shop. Don't twist ideas or words

[obsidian light]

this is also for the players, you want to be able to own unique items

[wintry atlas]

And importantly, how do you "win" in a game described like Palia is.

[obsidian light]

when you're having fun 🙂

[orchid veldt]

GW2 is struggling that's no secret, but their gem (currency shop) is doing rather well. But it is an older MMO that has thrived on the monetization scheme as mentioned before

[main nymph]

@obsidian light it is a bit predatory though, as we know - we meatbags have a gambling problem, and urgency-pushed purchases cause people to act irrationally lol

[boreal helm]

Sorry didnt mean to twist words or anyting. I lump cash shop stuff with pay to win loot boxes too.

[main nymph]

Even loot boxes are not pay to win...

[wintry atlas]

It's an important distinction that i'm glad you brought up DeExeter.

[obsidian light]

true it's kind of dangerous, I'd advise to stay away from systems like lootboxes etc for sure

[slim shard]

There's a growing number of Players who're not only against P2W Shops but also against any kinds of Cosmetics. Because people with more money will simply buy into looking good and awesome without having worked towards it in any shape or form. And since especially Western Players favour the point of view that if you want something you should work towards it, more and more people are also starting to look down on Cosmetic Shops.

[whole shoal]

Still, what has to be taken into account is that Cosmetics (all types, especially limited ones) create a huge FOMO feeling that some people, especially those with little money, might try to overcome by allocating some of their rent/utilities money just to buy a skin. And given that Palia labels itself as a casual/community-centered MMO, I think that cosmetic-FOMO-feeling could interefere with the core principles of Palia.

[main nymph]

Pay to win is pay to win. Lootboxes and cash shops aren't pay to win unless the game is pay to win.

[woeful sedge]

Hopefully if that’s the route they go there will at least be significant options for cosmetics with in-game currency as well

[boreal helm]

I bow to your superior knowledge. I apologize again. I hope everyone can forgive me.

[whole shoal]

I'm saying this because, as we've been accustomed by many games with cosmetic shops, the skins they sell are advertised in an extremely brutal way that really makes one think that they'll look like a fool without getting one.

[obsidian light]

Lootboxes are gambling, so they should be avoided at all costs. Yesterday I heard someone mention they spent thousands on getting a certain rare mount, only to see it re relased for 10 later...

[somber crag]

I heavily agree with this point.

[boreal helm]

It's funny you mention that, i am a western player.

[obsidian light]

how about cosmetics where you can either pay or earn them, but they have a minor difference whether you earned or paid for it?

[wintry atlas]

I think it's important everyone realises DeExeter's view though - because they absolutely represent a commonly held view. If Palia does go down that route, S6 and it's community need to know how to live with it / defend it.

@obsidian light The argument against this is that you remove the value of having earned it, if you can buy it.

[obsidian light]

(enough to see the difference but not enough to be like ha u paid for that)

[main nymph]

Honestly. This is a good Segway into Elite Dangerous' new currency. You can buy it for real money.

Or earn it, albeit in lower amounts and capped weekly, by simply playing. I spent $20 in currency and then earned the rest by playing. And it comes faster than you think.

[deft sonnet]

Who ia hyped for Ashura reveal today!!

[celest maple]

I'd like that, without the weekly cap.

[brittle delta]

[main nymph]

Gotta have a weekly cap to give an incentive to buy some though. Because. After all, they are a business and need money to thrive @celest maple

[deft sonnet]

To soon?

[celest maple]

WoW gold has no weekly cap, and people still buy tokens and cosmetics.

[brittle delta]

no bully Ashura

[deft sonnet]

I dont bully him

[celest maple]

The incentive is in that it takes effort to earn that currency, we could have something similar in Palia.

[whole shoal]

You should get this in suggestions. I personally think it's a great idea. Same cosmetic (for example a cape) with different affixes depending on the way it has been earned (the earned one can have a fancy sigil related to the location where you earned it while the bought one can have a sigil resembling the icon used to reflect the cash-shop currency)

[main nymph]

But that's not the same. That's gold currency. Not a secondary currency.

[deft sonnet]

I voted for him since the second votes

[celest maple]

They are functionally the same.

[main nymph]

The secondary currency is for cosmetic only stores.

[woeful sedge]

Plus without a weekly cap there’d probably be some optimized way to make the most money, and then we’d have have the server chopping trees 6 hours a day

[wintry atlas]

$$$ Sign 😂

[obsidian light]

yeah thats what i meant 😄 haha

[main nymph]

They are not. You cannot use gold to buy wows cosmetics. You cannot sell those cosmetics or mounts for gold anymore. But you can sell tokens bought with real money for gold. You're arguing with half truths

[celest maple]

They're functionally the same.