#💬│palia-discussions

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faint wind
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I dont think they've said anything about it yet. The people who have played the pre-alpha cant say much about the gameplay right now

tall cosmos
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Oh ok thanks

faint wind
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yeah no problem!

carmine relic
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Good evening all of ya's!

faint wind
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hiya

quick sparrow
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hey hey

empty matrix
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i dont think the pre-alpha testers have even played the game yet

faint wind
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oh?

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i've never done pre-alpha testing so i dont know how that stuff works

obsidian crypt
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@faint wind what's that pfp from?

wispy meadow
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Has the testing started then?

slate ruin
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Hahaha.. aged like milk concidering recent development.

Toxicity in MMOs is everywhere. You may not see it due to your surroundings, but it's there. And it is ugly. You just had a bunch of final fantasy players trying to gatekeep a wow streamer the other day because he's got a bad rep.

main nymph
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Not yet!

empty matrix
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I am almost 80% sure that the pre alpha testers have not started testing

vale crypt
winged field
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is pre alpha under NDA?

obsidian crypt
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@winged field yea

slate ruin
winged field
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some gameplay from the dev would be nice

empty matrix
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poor guy

obsidian crypt
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@winged field in time my friend.

main nymph
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Hopefully on the 8th 👀 but we won't know

obsidian crypt
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I'd expect more gameplay or news in general around the close of the first alpha

rotund burrow
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dont mind the reply I dont know how to cancel it XD

slate ruin
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Oh no the guys terrible lol. His community is based on harassment.

He tells his fans to /spit on players who get store mounts.

But the FFXIV community wasn't better. They were hounding him and killing off any chance of progress he could get on stream lol.

obsidian crypt
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Asmondgold critiqued gw2 bases solely off other people's videos. Didn't even bother to play himself ☹️ that was wild

slate ruin
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Now you got the toxic community of the streamer and the "welcoming" community of FFXIV joining forces against the gatekeepers. Its.. its wild lol.

faint wind
obsidian crypt
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@faint wind it's awesome lol. Good pick on that one 👍

obsidian crypt
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I'm hoping starfield gives some similar vibes

unique compass
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Yeah pre alphas are testing.

Testing their patience

vale crypt
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🙉

lunar tundra
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Oof yeah I was just listening to another streamer talk a out that.

Not much we can do to prevent that, but we can still come together as a community and have a good time.

Hopefully there will be some sort of block functionality so we can avoid players that we are uncomfortable playing with.

rotund burrow
obsidian crypt
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We're close 🙃

slate ruin
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FFXIV is not known for its pvp, its actually the least played aspect of the game i think lmao

unique compass
low wedge
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,

lunar tundra
faint wind
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I gotta head to bed, but if any of yall wanna add me feel free!

empty matrix
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idk if pvp players will touch this game if its centered around community, take animal crossing for instance, Very little way to dwelve into the crazy side of a person, you cant commit arson, cant kill anyone or troll anyone (to an extent). As long as Palia makes it so to dulls a pvp players mind, it should be enough to drive them away or even make them a good community member.

slate ruin
# lunar tundra Oof yeah I was just listening to another streamer talk a out that. Not much we...

Some of the gatekeepers were absolutely vile and not in the right to try and ruin someone's fun. But i can understand that some of them really just don't want that streamer's presence in their game either.

The wow community doesn't want him anymore either. He's like a cancer tbh.

And the people who defend him will claim "well its been years since he said X" yeah, but then again he never apologizes or even tries to change his behavior. Still the same as he was all those years ago.

vale crypt
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Karma 🤔

slate ruin
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he's immune to karma lol

cold mesa
slate ruin
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its like i said, you now got the toxic community he nurtures and the welcoming community of ffxiv trying to shoot down the "gatekeepers" calling them toxic in turn for trying to keep him out of FXIV. And I get it, welcome strangers and be nice to them. And yes, people can change. And yes, some of these gatekeepers are absolutely vile.

It's a very.. Very strange phenomenon lol.

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Meanwhile i've just been strolling in Middle Earth on LOTRO having a chill good time. happychuu

shut hinge
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Well that’s easy when it’s a ghost town

patent adder
fiery gale
empty matrix
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(to an extent)

fiery gale
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Also digging easter eggs in my homies islands in the middle of winter

kindred sable
fiery gale
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All my homies hate bunny day...

empty matrix
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is it funny though? Not annoying?

shut hinge
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Trolling doesn’t have to be annoying or negative it’s just it often is sometimes it’s good natured

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Like putting salt in the sugar shaker 😎

fiery gale
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Just depends on the person. I troll my homies all of the time in Hunt: Showdown but at the end of the day it's all in good fun

empty matrix
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the original topic is lost :/
rip

fiery gale
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Happens

tawdry rampart
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Dreaming of an alpha I cannot see!

lone onyx
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Hullo! How are you all?

empty matrix
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take your time machine to the future mi amigo
very simple

lunar tundra
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Hey 👋

tawdry rampart
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Dreaming of a time machine I cannot see!

patent adder
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Hey you two 🥰

shut hinge
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Was the orginal topic that pvp draws toxic people or is it about a critically acclaimed streamer asmongold

lone onyx
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I hope y'all are having a great day/afternoon/evening.

empty matrix
lunar tundra
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I wonder what the currency in palia will be?

I'm sure Einar wants pebbles, but what do the rest of out soon to be friends use?

cold mesa
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hello pals 🥺

patent adder
empty matrix
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I think curency will be a small thing in Palia you have a choice of using, I think trade will be the main form of getting items that you either need/want

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did I say terraira?

shut hinge
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The currency will be blood.. oh for the game ? Probbaly pebbles

fiery gale
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Perhaps the currency will be... Gold coins 🪙

empty matrix
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I need sleepies

lunar tundra
fiery gale
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Or maybe... Apples pies 🥧?

empty matrix
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the currency is... shovels.

lunar tundra
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Fish currency?

fiery gale
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I wouldn't mind a shovel based currency

empty matrix
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yes 300 shovels for 2 rations

tiny lake
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that's pretty steep.

shut hinge
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I’m hoping there’s a currency because the idea of having to juggle bunches of items makes me cry there’s already too many currencies in mmos

austere spade
lunar tundra
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Coins with pies on them? Pies with coins in them?

magic mist
fiery gale
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Coins made out of pies

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Pies made out of coins

patent adder
shut hinge
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Scrooge mcduck is my idol

fiery gale
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More like Scrooge McDaddy

empty matrix
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scrooge mcduck drowned in all his gold :c

shut hinge
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That’s a vibe

fiery gale
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God I wish that were me

shut hinge
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I will become capitalism in this game

fiery gale
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But this game is communist sorry

magic mist
shut hinge
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Then I guess it’ll never get made

empty matrix
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"its been 100 years"

thick umbra
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i'm personally excited to trade a bundle of sticks for three leaves with more or less no holes in them

magic mist
empty matrix
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when you get an extra caterpillar with the leave you ordered

shut hinge
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It’s money town

neat shadow
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Finally, I've made it home. zznap

thick umbra
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welcome home!

neat shadow
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Thank you!

thick umbra
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Anyone else not worried at all about the monetization aspect of the game?

empty matrix
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wdym?

cinder temple
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I like what I've seen of the studio so far, so I'm willing to chill and see how they handle $$$ no matter what method they choose.

indigo halo
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i mean imo this isnt even the type of game that would suffer heavily if it was pay to progress, it's not supposed to be super competitive

neat shadow
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I don't do subscriptions, but in order to keep mtx out of the game, I'd be willing to sub monthly. Happily.

fiery gale
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To be fair the DEVS of the game are often different people from the marketing team. Many times the devs have no say in monetization...

thick umbra
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I think the only thing i'd think would suck would be if paying more than 20 ish bucks a month would give you more benefit the more you spend

patent adder
haughty coyote
neat shadow
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If they did contests with the community to, let's say, come up with outfit designs and the ones that make it in game be paid for, that's also another thing I'd be happy to support.

fiery gale
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Did they confirm no pvp ever? If so I'm kinda sad about that

indigo halo
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micro transactions of some type are going to happen, as with any other game. subbing won't stop that. industry just doesn't allow it. im more than willing to be proven wrong but i really doubt it. it's in the devs best interest to include them.

haughty coyote
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@fiery gale they did

neat shadow
neat shadow
cinder temple
valid yarrow
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Weird, I didnt get an alpha invite

thick umbra
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yeah mtx are almost a given especially when its already seemingly a game about aethetics

neat shadow
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Don't ask how it fit in there, Milky. @empty matrix , y e s.

haughty coyote
empty matrix
patent adder
wide wedge
valid yarrow
empty matrix
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weird

valid yarrow
haughty coyote
thick umbra
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Im surprised I didnt get 5 invites for myself and 4 alts

magic mist
wide wedge
neat shadow
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Well, they say they didn't choose active members from the discord...They say.

valid yarrow
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Oh wait I got one, in spam lol

fiery gale
thick umbra
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I thought the post specifically said ithat people who contributed here on discord were some of the people who they considered

neat shadow
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One of the mods was adamant that they didn't do it that way.

patent adder
haughty coyote
indigo halo
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i think they said contributed specifically, as in not just chat. like doing stuff.

empty matrix
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I try to be as active as possible

valid yarrow
wide wedge
magic mist
neat shadow
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Is this just fantasy?

patent adder
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They actually sent them out in small batches to prevent them from getting marked as spam.

thick umbra
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yeah something like that, I don't think youd even be able to be added to the team unless you were already on the discord too right? Since they weren't emailing invites

valid yarrow
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caught in a landslide

wide wedge
obsidian crypt
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@valid yarrow your pfp gives me the woozies

rain crescent
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Open your eyes

pulsar meteor
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look up to the skies, and seeeeee

valid yarrow
empty matrix
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Galileo

obsidian crypt
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@valid yarrow can't help there 🙃

wide wedge
empty matrix
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Galileo

valid yarrow
wide wedge
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Galileo figarooooo

empty matrix
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O

valid yarrow
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I cant help myself, I just keep donating to ASMR on twitch

empty matrix
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interesting

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Once I get my warm blanket out of teh dryer I'm probably going to immediately fall asleep, so good night for now

rain crescent
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Gn

celest maple
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Good night

wide wedge
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Good night! 😄

fringe minnow
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I haven't popped in this chat for a while, i was too focused on sticker making, what's up?

tranquil cosmos
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More stickers incoming?

valid yarrow
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stikaz!

fringe minnow
fringe minnow
kindred sable
valid yarrow
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cate

kindred sable
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cheshire

dense fog
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hi

neat shadow
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Hello chapaanda

indigo kite
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Hello everyone ☺️ Hope you're all having a lovely day 💕

ionic portal
indigo kite
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Have you guys gotten to play pre-alpha yet? (if I'm allowed to ask)

wide wedge
indigo kite
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ah okay! Wasn't sure if the nda was like just cant talk about what is in the game or everything regarding pre alpha

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Hope y'all enjoy it ☺️

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Kind of wish everyone could see what was in the nda so we know what we can and can't ask just to save you guys from saying "sorry nda" all the time lol

cinder temple
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The short version of it is: Don't share anything you experience while testing. That should narrow it down.

indigo kite
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ah alrighty

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thanks for letting me know :) Hope someone can pin something like that to faq or something to save you guys from answering this another 100 times

cinder temple
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It's a bummer for testers because so many of them want to be helpful and answer; we just can't. At least they gave us this nice emoji. chapaanda

magic lance
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Morning all 🙂

night kraken
raven swan
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Good morning!

wide wedge
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Good morning everyone!! 😄

carmine relic
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Good evening! Or uh, afternoon? I can't tell.

night kraken
indigo kite
raven swan
carmine relic
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Non Disclosure Agreement. Legal-term for "please keep this a secret"

raven swan
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Ah okay. Thank you. Now things make more sense.

warm plover
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Happy timezone

wide wedge
carmine relic
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Aye.

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(and one more "aye", for good luck and whatever else!)

warm plover
patent adder
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Morning everyone who got here while I was distracted☺️

carmine relic
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Huzzah, Milky!

warm plover
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milkyyy

patent adder
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🥰 how are you guys

carmine relic
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Pretty good

warm plover
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sleepy

celest maple
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Hi! I'm new here.

warm jolt
patent adder
fiery maple
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hiiiiii milky

celest maple
fiery maple
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i like ur name

patent adder
celest maple
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I registered and did the survey already! I was considering doing the content creator survey too but I'm not sure I'm big enough.

patent adder
celest maple
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Oh wait there's a second one-
No I did not do that one.

patent adder
fiery maple
celest maple
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Err... where is the second one?

night kraken
patent adder
fiery maple
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How do we feel about emotes in palia? like overwatch/fornite emotes/dancing

celest maple
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Found it. Thanks.

patent adder
brisk ivy
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In most MMORPGs, you get all of the emotes, you just type /dance.

patent adder
blissful hollow
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hello

night kraken
patent adder
rain crescent
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I love your pfp milky

brisk ivy
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In GW2, they added unlockable /emotes. I thought that was a cool idea! Animal Crossing had an unlock system of it's own.

patent adder
rain crescent
keen basin
fiery maple
fiery maple
brisk ivy
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How would you guys like to see emotes handled? A UI list? Emote wheel? Slash command?

mint briar
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hello everyone!

patent adder
brisk ivy
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I've even seen ability slot emotes!

rain crescent
small hinge
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Slash commands have less room for error imo

patent adder
fiery maple
small hinge
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Just a ui button with all the emotes by category is easy enough

thick umbra
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Different methods of doing the same thing is really common when a game is on more than one platform tbh

brisk ivy
patent adder
ionic portal
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I like the slash commands except I feel like an emote wheel is more visually pleasing

unique compass
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Porque no los dos

thick umbra
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On mobile it'd probably be easiest to have a little emote button you press in the chat window kinda like how discord does it

raven swan
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I'd like an emote wheel for your few favorites (like league does it: preselect your top 5 for quick use) and store the rest in a ui button :)

celest maple
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could we have a combination of being able to use slash commands, have an emote menu for all emotes with their slash names, and also an emote wheel. + emotes are key-bindable?
or am I giving some poor devs a heart attack ><

brisk ivy
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In PlanetSide 2, they use an emote wheel for premade voice commands. 100% faster. Great for speed.

rain crescent
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I like acnh’s emote wheel thingy

patent adder
small hinge
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Rocket league instant chats but it’s just “What a catch!” Every time someone loses a fish

brisk ivy
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They could use a combination of systems too, just most games never go that far.

keen basin
fiery maple
keen basin
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On palia.com, scroll down to where it says "I am a content creator"

warm plover
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acnh has emotes?

fiery maple
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kinda off topic but im so curious on what you all think about in game voice chat. are we hoping for strict party chat or maybe proximity chat in certain areas? how are we feeling about all that

warm plover
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Oh that reminds me I should add the content creator survey to my doc... i forgot about it

brisk ivy
warm plover
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WOW i have not played acnh in a while cause i dont remember these at all

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oh wait you learn them from villagers
i just remembered actually

brisk ivy
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Yeah, they used to be unlocked through a comedian in other games, such as new leaf.

patent adder
ionic portal
raven swan
warm plover
celest maple
night kraken
glacial flicker
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How's the alpha testing going?

fiery maple
tranquil prairie
warm plover
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I enjoyed it for a while, but I haven't played it in a while. It felt like there was something of a content drought, and a lot of design choices seem very user-unfriendly (for example, buildings taking a whole day to move and only being able to move one at a time)

warm plover
wide wedge
night kraken
fiery maple
hidden lynx
brisk ivy
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On the subject of proximity chat, it's almost always a nessessity for console gaming. It can be added in a patch later if they choose to put the game on console.

patent adder
fiery maple
hidden lynx
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Ummm.... I am asleep? 👀

wide wedge
thick umbra
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by opt-in vc are we talking about opting in to talk & listen or just to talk? Because I'd absolutely hate to hear strangers when i'm minding my business 😓

patent adder
quick sparrow
warm plover
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opting in to talk and listen probably

night kraken
glacial flicker
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Ohhhh, my bad

celest maple
glacial flicker
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Just too anxious and excited

warm plover
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would be nice if there was a little icon somewhere to show someone wasn't doing voice stuff
cause it would be kinda awkward to talk to someone for a while and then find out they couldn't hear you...

hidden lynx
celest maple
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there's a game I play which has a voicechat icon next to everyone, and mine means nothing as I have incoming vc volume at 0%. but it still won't reflect that I can't hear people. so definitely would want a way of displaying that

hidden lynx
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Also I just really like helping you guys 🥺 who needs sleep when you can help people in Palia 🥺

brisk ivy
hidden lynx
cinder temple
hidden lynx
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🤷🏻‍♀️

warm plover
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go to bed

hidden lynx
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I'm excited to see what S6 decides to do when it comes to in game communication as a whole! Like will there be a board to post about your neighborhood? A chat for everyone online? A friends system like so many questions when it comes to how they plan to handle playing with everyone 🥺

brisk ivy
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MMORPGs usually go with a chat log system, that allows for you to communicate anywhere with people in your guild/map/team/party, but it'd be interesting to see if they get creative.

thick umbra
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You can only interact with your guild by being in the same vicinity as them or by leaving bulletins in the guild hall 😈

meager hollow
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Are there any gameplay videos on youtube?

brisk ivy
brisk ivy
elfin heath
fiery maple
elfin heath
brisk ivy
warm plover
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buried by the ign video of the trailer

brisk ivy
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I don't know how IGN is still so popular, even though every forum I see bashes it.

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Guess people just can't resist their mix of content!

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Anyways, the Palia channel could use some more subscriptions. Yes, you! Person reading this! You there! Youtube algorithm.

warm plover
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i subscribed, liked the trailer and left a comment. gotta do stuff for the algorithm

brisk ivy
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Youtube is a mysterious beast though. It's got personalized video lists, but it won't put Palia up higher, even though I'm subscribed to them.

patent adder
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Sorry friends I'm back ☺️

fiery maple
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we missed you milky

warm plover
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miwkyyyyy

night kraken
patent adder
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Awwh thanks☺️

small hinge
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Tag out Milky I’m off to sleep! Till tomorrow Palians!

patent adder
warm plover
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🐐

patent adder
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How is Rin today

warm plover
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sleepy!

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how is goat? at work?

mint steppe
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Just called off sick and I’m worse now than I was before I went to bed. Blah

warm plover
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you changed your pic tophi?

mint steppe
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Yeah should I change it back? Haha

warm plover
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Naw I just didn't recognise you for a sec

brisk ivy
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I like sick days when I'm sick enough to stay home, but not sick enough to play video games.

mint steppe
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Ohh and yes lol I’ll be doing that

patent adder
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Awh heck yeah. It sucks you're feeling so bad though

warm plover
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Sucks when you're sick enough that literally all you can do is lie in bed

brisk ivy
mint steppe
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I’m certain my daughter got me sick from daycare

warm plover
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i keep forgetting that people here are parents

patent adder
mint steppe
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Haha well I’m only 26 almost 27. And yum ginger ale

brisk ivy
warm plover
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unpopular opinion but i dont like ginger that much

versed ice
warm plover
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why are yall drinking ginger??????

mint steppe
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@versed ice what does your suggestions role mean?

brisk ivy
patent adder
celest maple
glossy mantle
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Wish I was at bed, that sounds good 👀

patent adder
craggy niche
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GOOD MORNING

warm plover
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milky knows the secret lore

patent adder
mint steppe
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Found the secret lore lol

mint kelp
celest maple
craggy niche
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What kind of topic are we discussing rn

warm plover
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ginger ale

brisk ivy
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Hmmm... We need a palia topic.

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Drinking in Palia? We saw yak milk, tea...

craggy niche
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Wine, beer, whisky

brisk ivy
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What should drinking do? What would we like to drink?

patent adder
warm plover
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did we actually see if it was tea? we just saw steam
it couldve been coffee or smth lol

mint steppe
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Palian ale

brisk ivy
craggy niche
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Maybe it was schweppes

gritty veldt
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if i got a dollar for everytime someone mentions coffee in relation to palia i would be RICH rich

craggy niche
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Coffee

tidal scroll
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neither a coffee nor tea person. life's gonna be rough in palia

still delta
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I hope we get wine making

gritty veldt
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heck yeah. a gold fish, if you will

patent adder
warm plover
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maybe it was hot chocolate

gritty veldt
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thank you, a worthy cause

craggy niche
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Maybe it was poop

brisk ivy
mint steppe
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There shall be secret ingredients for every food and drink in Palia

patent adder
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Give me strawberry milk in Palia pls 🤤

gritty veldt
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also dont really drink coffee or tea. mostly water. but if i could get boba,,,,,,

warm plover
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strawbebby miwk....m

mint steppe
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I don’t think I’ve had strawberry milk

patent adder
gritty veldt
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its surprisingly tasty

warm plover
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what do you mean surprisingly

brisk ivy
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I like vanilla flavored milk, but it's so hard to find in bottles.

gritty veldt
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i dont really like just drinking straight milk and i dont like strawberry ice cream, so i didnt think i would like strawberry milk. but i was pleasantly surprised

warm plover
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strawberry milk is justice

gritty veldt
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its redemption

brisk ivy
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It's the law.

gritty veldt
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dun dun

warm plover
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these are their stories
dun dun

patent adder
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Strawberry milk slaps 👏

warm plover
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it shouldnt be doing that

mint steppe
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Slaps that bass 🐟

warm plover
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let the bass kick

tribal pewter
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Hello. einar_pleased

twilit pond
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checks in yup… food talk again 😂

tribal pewter
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I hope you're all having a good time ☺️

warm plover
cinder temple
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I'm vibing. Thinking about Tau and 16 weeks' worth of Palian art prompts.

warm plover
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maybe when we see official kitsuu art we can get a kitsuu art week

patent adder
maiden wagon
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goob morning/afternoon/evening pals 👋

spring rivet
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wonderful morning, Palia! 🦆

twilit pond
warm plover
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duckduckduckduckduck

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did the other duck see my thing? 🥺

patent adder
spring rivet
warm plover
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aw

cinder temple
warm plover
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I'm not really an artist

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<-- has a wacom and clip studio paint for some reason

cinder temple
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That's the lovely part; most of the people participating normally don't do art, they're just trying it for fun.

mint steppe
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Hey goose I mean 🦆

warm plover
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Every time I draw I get upset by my lack of ability

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I'm unfortunately a perfectionist and also not very good
which is a bad combination

maiden wagon
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me too rin. It helps me to remember that every time I draw it's a little progress to getting better at it

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like working out a muscle you know

warm plover
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i mean i know
i just dont want to look at what ive made so i just delete it :shrug:

brisk ivy
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I wonder how many scraps of work litter an artist's room/computer recycle bin.

cinder temple
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Well, if you change your mind, I'll be delighted to see some Rin scribbles. Even just one.

maiden wagon
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i'm like a hoarder, so many unfinished sketches and scribbles i will never touch again. I don't throw anything away lol

warm plover
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if you count deleted voice recordings, it's a lot
something something music stuff

mint steppe
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My problem is focus.

brisk ivy
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I know my sister used to have a ton of her starting work around. She said she didn't like them, my mother took one and hung it up.

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Then my sister tried to swap it out with another piece she liked instead, but I liked the older one better. Didn't tell her I liked it better though. If you're reading this sis, sorry.

warm plover
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wild to remember people on the internet have families and aren't just magical individual entities

wide wedge
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Good night people! 😄

maiden wagon
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goodnight o/

deft sonnet
low star
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goodmoring everyone c:

gritty veldt
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helloooo

surreal crest
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mornin'

patent adder
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I am magical 🐐 🪄

surreal crest
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I am mystical

low star
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we are pretty special creatures ngl happycrai1

warm plover
#

im not magical.. im just a normal cat...

surreal crest
spring rivet
warm plover
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im not lovely*.. im just a normal cat...

spring rivet
#

Why do you spell 'lovely' as 'normal'?

patent adder
#

Magic cat now

warm plover
#

:o

sick void
surreal crest
warm plover
#

ow

spring rivet
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All in Palia is magical, no normal

surreal crest
low star
surreal crest
deft sonnet
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I love magic

spring rivet
surreal crest
spring rivet
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*poof
I can still quack, but I can't move!

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😒🦆

gritty veldt
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this feels vaguely like the video where theguy goes around slapping literally everyone except with bonks and transformation

scenic cove
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Lol

surreal crest
warm plover
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i wonder what the ratio of humans to animals/objects in this chat is

surreal crest
spring rivet
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Hmm I'm seeing 60/40 major hooman based on my observation

gritty veldt
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right off the bat theres a cat, a fish, a duck, and a chair

spring rivet
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We need more cutie lil creatures

gritty veldt
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and if milky is still here then a goat

keen basin
#

Ol McDonald had a farm

surreal crest
#

and Dev team consists of literal alcohol and a Frog

spring rivet
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I think Palia will have more plants than hooman lol

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So many wanna plant

brisk ivy
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I wonder what this game will start with and where it will go in the future.

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Animal Crossing took a long time to just get some bushes. Would be cool if Palia starts off with bushes.

soft geyser
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dont forget wizard crab

lyric ether
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I'm a chapaa I want to chapaa all the trees down.

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what's happening in here, I see my pal ducky

spring rivet
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We were.wondering about the ratio of hooman/animal/plants in Palia community

surreal crest
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I don't see any plants tho

cold mesa
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I just want to collect all the plants and put them in my house 🥺🌱

spring rivet
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And mystic chair turned me into a chairduck 😒🦆

patent adder
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🍀 🐐 it is me plantgoat ☺️

brisk ivy
#

You know, I never looked at the trailer specifically for the plants.

jagged pendant
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I want vines on my walls

brave thorn
brisk ivy
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Oh! They do have some sort've bush at the player home in the trailer.

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How'd they steal Animal Crossing's bush technology? No game can make bushes that fast!

cold mesa
#

I still TT to make the bushes grow in AC lol

mint steppe
#

@cold mesa what does your suggestions role mean?

cold mesa
mint steppe
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Oh sorry 😣

cold mesa
#

No worries! I wish i could answer but i can’t sadly!

wintry atlas
#

Do you enjoy the suggestions role? 😆

cold mesa
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LMAOOOOOOO YOU SCAMP

lyric ether
#

I hope Palia has a way for me to play with my food. Offtopic btw has some images of what I do when I play with my food.

brisk ivy
wintry atlas
cold mesa
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QUENCH BE NICE LOL

brisk ivy
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lol, sorry, can't mind cracking a few.

cold mesa
#

i’m crying 😂

patent adder
cold mesa
#

it was very funny haha

patent adder
#

Man, I am ready to go home.

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I'm glad it's a short week cause the long weekend ☺️

surreal crest
warm plover
#

Back from my shower
Sometimes I forget how much I love singing and then I just kinda go ham on a song and remember how much I love that feeling

patent adder
surreal crest
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aaargh too much magic

warm plover
night kraken
warm plover
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You sing while you walk? i can't sing while im moving ive gotta stand still

lyric ether
#

sleep is only needed once you start to see things that are not really there

warm plover
#

I was singing a song from the NieR soundtrack again
I think my voice is best suited for slower songs rather than more intense modern stuff

patent adder
#

Sing a song for me Rin 👀

warm plover
lyric ether
#

I always sing daughter of the sea, or toss a coin to your witcher. These songs has been stuck in my head for awhile now it's driving me batty

warm plover
lyric ether
#

🎤 sing for us 🎤

patent adder
warm plover
#

i thought i linked you one of my covers before

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....my memory is kinda bad though so maybe i didnt

patent adder
#

Nope ☺️

warm plover
#

sing us a song you're the piano cat man

lyric ether
#

catman is that like scatman?

warm plover
#

no im not as good as him 😔
anyway i dmd you the link milky

lyric ether
#

because you are better right?

warm plover
#

naw

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i'm still an amateur, not a professional

lyric ether
#

well do that american idol thing, if it's still a thing. Is it thing? I've not seen tv for ages.

warm plover
#

im not even an american
also im pretty sure the contracts you have to sign to go on those shows are predatory as hell

brisk ivy
#

I've heard those idols usually fail after they get picked up by someone. Probably are predatory.

lyric ether
#

Plan to do a concert for us in Palia if VC is a thing?

warm plover
#

doing it in a way that isnt prerecorded will sound like a mess, due to latency and voices cutting out

lyric ether
#

ah I see, well maybe make a Palia youtube video with some songs.

warm plover
#

plus i dont think i have a way to eq my voice input...

brisk ivy
#

Also, voice chats tend to have lower quality, so data can be sent faster.

patent adder
#

She was vibing

warm plover
#

i could sing my heart out and you would just hear ONCE THERE WERE [mic cuts out] [offbeat by half a second] birds......

lyric ether
#

if your comfortable trying to make Palia related youtube videos and music people would likely enjoy it. I know I always listen to songs related to the games I'm playing

warm plover
#

i could try
i wanted to sing over the trailer music, but i need to finish another cover i promised to do first
aiyo~

lyric ether
#

that sounds amazing, would adore the trailer having a song.

slim shard
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UAH! I'm awake again. Good Day Palians! May this be a fruitful Day for us all. ❤️ ☕

jolly shuttle
#

It's raining 😦

lyric ether
#

send the rain my way

celest maple
#

morning, Watershine!

slim shard
#

I would take some rain too. Rain is actually my favourite Weather, so I don't mind it (as long as it is not flooding areas, of course).

warm plover
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guten morgen

teal bane
#

good morning!

lyric ether
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i feel like it's been dry here so long even a light drizzle would cause a flood

warm plover
#

(sorry thats the only german i know)

jolly shuttle
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I just hope it lets up in about 2 hours, was planning to get to a second hand store and see if I could find anything interesting 🙂

lyric ether
#

Speaking of floods, I hope Palia has some swamplands. I love me some swamp biomes.

warm plover
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i dont like getting dirty...

night kraken
warm plover
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when someone talks about swamps in video games i think of left 4 dead
i HATED that swamp

lyric ether
#

but swamps, so dead yet so alive.

cinder temple
warm plover
#

:o a perfect plan
...are we lying him face up or face down

lyric ether
#

QQ don't tread on me

warm plover
#

yo rogers are you allowed to say what your suggestions role is or is that a Secret™️

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...im gonna assume it's pre-alpha tester adjacent and that it's under nda

lyric ether
#

yeah, honestly I'm not comfortable answering any questions anywhere near things in that area. You can always ask someone in the blue about it.

warm plover
#

👌

brisk ivy
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Swamps are something that can be pretty cool. Some games keep swamps really small, though.

warm plover
#

swamps just look depressing to me

chrome cipher
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But there's frogs there

cinder temple
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Swamps filled with Shimmerflies. 👀

patent adder
warm plover
#

frogge.....

teal bane
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minecraft swamps my beloved

deft sonnet
#

RIBBIT

brisk ivy
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Swamps are full of life! Smelly, smelly life.

chrome cipher
#

I hope there's bug catching too

lyric ether
warm plover
deft sonnet
warm plover
#

i should play minecraft again
aaaaaaaaaaa

patent adder
brisk ivy
chrome cipher
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Bugs are perfect for cooking,potions, and making dyes

teal bane
#

a swamp would be great for fish and bugs! not ot mention a bunch of other creatures

lyric ether
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Swamp is like the circle of life incarnate

warm plover
#

palia server admin-sanctioned minecraft server when

lyric ether
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so much dead and dying in the swamp yet it brings all the life that is in it.

teal bane
#

there are plenty of really green swamps

warm plover
#

.....dammit i have a minecraft craving now....

teal bane
#

lolol

lyric ether
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yeah but decomposition is the main trait of a swamp, even if not visual it's down in the water and is the cause of swamp gas.

chrome cipher
#

Hmm it makes me wonder about the weather systems means the swamp can be rainy or foggy at times

hybrid citrus
warm plover
#

help how do i cure my minecraft craving
singleplayer is scary cause i dont like being alone D:<

deft sonnet
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Play palia

brittle halo
#

play modded, ezpz

warm plover
#

i cant 😔

warm plover
# brittle halo play modded, ezpz

honestly i dont know what modpacks are good and also i still get scared being alone in them
i remember when tekkit had that box that could convert anything to anything else. i loved that thing

lyric ether
#

mod a villager into being a friend and you won't be a lone

teal bane
deft sonnet
#

Woop woop

#

Why so silent?

lyric ether
#

I'm...||eating taco bell||

deft sonnet
#

Nice

teal bane
#

the meal of champions

lyric ether
#

||Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you go, never going to turn around and hurt you||

brisk ivy
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I got a taco bell that's opened 24/7 near my home.

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Nacho cheese be good for the soul.

midnight oak
#

Don't you folks mean..... Tau-co Bell?

worldly valley
#

I've seen the trailer, and the building thing but it got me confused. Are players going to be able to build only in certain areas, or are they going to be able to build anywhere but items decay if they're not maintained?

teal bane
#

baja blast every hour of the day

patent adder
deft sonnet
lyric ether
#

I was going to say Tachuu bell, but that sounded like I was touching your bell and I'm not sure that would be good.

teal bane
#

XDD

lyric ether
#

someone has the poops

brisk ivy
cinder temple
#

It is Tausday, my dudes.

patent adder
#

Why are the poop emojis 🥺

lyric ether
#

||If I get the poop emoji, It means I'm #1 and the person who emoji's me is forever in my service||

brisk ivy
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Because taco bell is associated with Mr. Doo

patent adder
#

Lmao the skip

brittle halo
lyric ether
#

lol

brisk ivy
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Mr. Rogers is eating @summer plinth

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You're going to make him into a taco dispenser.

lyric ether
#

No sir, I'm eating chuulupa

brisk ivy
#

Finally, someone who understands tastes! So refined!

summer plinth
#

I didnt get alpha so im spamming poop

pure jolt
#

That'll show em'

summer plinth
#

what else to do..

lyric ether
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||the|| ||suspense||||Of||||The||||poop||||Emoji||||Is||||Killing||||Me||||But||||I||||know||||It||||means||||they||||love||||me||

cinder temple
#

Meanwhile, in Palia.

brittle halo
#

kind of a shitty reaction if you ask me /j

soft geyser
#

u guys added reactions and i had to reopen all of the spoilers-

lyric ether
#

We need to get back on topic, there is a disturbance in the force.

brittle halo
#

probably that tauco bell

tardy jasper
#

when this game come out ?

lime forge
#

idk lol

cinder temple
lyric ether
patent adder
lime forge
#

oh hi milky

zinc steeple
#

Goooood morning Palians

warm plover
#

the closest thing we have to a release date is a dev saying "While I can't give any specific dates, I can assure you that we are much closer than 3 years from launch. "

patent adder
brittle halo
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Milky, do you like ever sleep?

brisk ivy
#

He didn't get his bedtime milk.

celest maple
#

good mornin Jeklah

brisk ivy
#

He drank his waking up milk.

patent adder
warm plover
#

milky works nights

brittle halo
#

ah, you're part of the Palia work gang, I see

brisk ivy
#

My man!

patent adder
warm plover
#

his job is to sit around to make sure things dont explode (probably)

brisk ivy
#

Milky, watching over the nuclear reactor for us.

lyric ether
#

ya know I'm a little surprised people always notices milky but I think i'm awake more hours then them. 😛

patent adder
lyric ether
#

I need to change my colors more often so people notice me more.

warm plover
#

I think I'm awake a regular amount but apparently people notice me cause I don't shut up

echo jolt
#

If u want attention then shouldnt u just talk more

lyric ether
#

Neither do I... I've been known to clear a room with my blabber mouth lol

brittle halo
#

99% of the time I just watch from the sidelines until a chance for a pun arises

warm plover
#

rogers talks a lot

lyric ether
echo jolt
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Sorry im usually on the sidelines too so i wouldnt know 💀

warm plover
#

fair
also nice mcdonalds skye

echo jolt
#

Hihi

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Thank u

lyric ether
#

I like to use gifs, but that toy was taken away from me here so I just harass offtopic and games

brisk ivy
#

Yeah, I'd like 2 plain McDoubles. A side of large fries.

brittle halo
#

sure is a good thing we have stickers now

warm plover
#

i'd like a HAWK OUT please

brittle halo
echo jolt
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And then i flash u and all u see is god

patent adder
#

I think people just notice me cause cute goat gif ☺️

lyric ether
safe fern
#

Happy timezone all

lyric ether
#

i need to get more stickers

teal hamlet
summer plinth
#

💩

teal hamlet
lyric ether
teal hamlet
brisk ivy
hidden lynx
#

👀 could you not with the spamming of the poop emoji reaction all over... 👀

safe fern
#

I see chat's like that this morning

lyric ether
#

very i agree

brittle halo
warm plover
#

chat sure is chat

warm plover
#

omg the thank you sticker is real

brittle halo
#

fun fact, blocking someone removes any reactions they make

lyric ether
#

i feel like they gonna end up taking our stickers away if they can

safe fern
#

Yeah! It looks great, community art has been hard at work

hidden lynx
warm plover
#

...doesnt duck do something similar?

brisk ivy
lyric ether
#

hmmm Is that what that rule means? cause duck and turtle

patent adder
safe fern
spring rivet
hidden lynx
lyric ether
#

yeah.. poop is found more offensive

cinder temple
brittle halo
#

it is kinda shitty, yeah

safe fern
#

Nice one

brittle halo
#

thank you, I do try

hidden lynx
#

Madd 🤣 get out hahahaha

brisk ivy
#

BTW, DiscoDucks didn't say we were offtopic. We're in the clear.

lyric ether
#

that doesn't mean anything. Disco is a mod not our mother, they just say it if we get too far out of hand.

brittle halo
#

modther?

lyric ether
#

😦 Ended up having to block poop emoji person they kept trying to send me a call. Sorry person, but I don't trust randoms that throw shit around.

brittle halo
#

thats why I blocked 'em too

warm plover
#

btw poop emoji person is IAmJurme#0287

spring rivet
#

ohh sorry for replying to that chat

hidden lynx
#

I've not blocked anyone from the server yet, so would have been a good thing to let a mod know as a general heads up of hey this is happening to me idk if it is to anyone else. But regardless it's being taken care of cause ducks is great 🥰

brittle halo
#

s'all good lol

hidden lynx
#

Oh see look tada 🎉

brisk ivy
#

I very rarely blocked people in anything. Like if I block somebody, you know they've done something wrong.

hidden lynx
#

Yep exactly! BUT let's get back to like Palia chat yeah?

warm plover
#

I block people from time to time. No sense in forcing myself see nonsense that I'd rather live without.

spring rivet
safe fern
#

I just can't arsed blocking people but I don't want to get a random call ew

lyric ether
#

Where was we? Was it swamp biomes?

brisk ivy
#

What kind of chat features would you like to see in Palia? Most games come with a block and friends list, but what about a favorite friends feature?

brittle halo
#

so anywhomst, anyone hoping for a specific meal added?

patent adder
lyric ether
#

Not a fan of fungus but yeah it would be a great place to gather shrooms

patent adder
#

I am not either, but anything extra big is fun 👀

lyric ether
#

ah yeah would love to bounce on large mushrooms if they made them like trampolines

plush delta
#

whas poppin

patent adder
brisk ivy
#

Fantasy games are unique in that you can do some wild stuff with plant life. In GW2, there's these bouncy mushrooms that let you jump really high.

lyric ether
#

oh GW2 has that?

brisk ivy
#

Imagine jumping upon a mushroom and then using your glider!

hidden lynx
#

I can't wait to go gliding 🥺

maiden nymph
#

The only thing is Fantasy games often come down to the same pattern, magic, monster, epic lore, nemisis etc.

lyric ether
#

that was my thoughts, using it as a lift then gliding to another mushroom. You can't fly but you sure would feel like you could

brisk ivy
maiden nymph
#

Also hi everyone :3

lyric ether
#

Hi hamster, can you dance?

maiden nymph
#

i would send a breakdance hamster emote but i can't in this channel 👀

prime crystal
#

Hello

lyric ether
#

Thought that counts

brisk ivy
brittle halo
#

old school railgun but for planting seeds

hidden lynx
#

Alright I'm heading back to sleep hope you all have a great day/night and I'll see you in a little while 🥰 remember to hydrate and be kind to each other!! 🥺

buoyant sinew
#

One simple thing I'm looking forward to do, is to find the highest mountain I can get myself on top of, just to (hopefully) glide down and see the birds eye view. I have this feeling that the world might be quite interesting to explore, especially that way. That being said, I also kind of hope flying is very limited, such as to the gliders.

cinder temple
#

I've always loved when games let you link up movement abilities. You can use a GW2 mushroom, pop a glider at the height of the launch, and then switch to a mount to extend your airtime. Champions Online had 'travel powers' that worked similarly. You could have a super jump ability and get up somewhere high, then take a leap of faith and kickstart a jetpack or flight.

Palia's not exactly a jumpy leapy sort of game (from the vibes I get), but if we do have multiple modes of getting around, some link-up between them might be neat.

lyric ether
#

idk I could see it having that from the trailer. Gliders and what not it could easily be a parkour thing. Parkour is a big part of a good exploration system.

buoyant sinew
maiden nymph
formal lynx
buoyant sinew
#

I could definitely see ("skill based") movement as one nice way to make exploring a little more entertaining and engaging, even though Palia is not a competitive game

brisk ivy
#

People do parkour for fun in MMOs. People see something high to stand on and then go "How do I get up there?"

lyric ether
#

non competitive doesn't always mean non challenging

cinder temple
maiden nymph
buoyant sinew
paper bridge
#

aloha

formal lynx
strange crest
#

Still no more beta releases right?

buoyant sinew
#

Jump puzzles could be also be implemented as shortcuts to places, so it's not necessary, maybe a little faster at most, but more like a optional challenge. Or something along those lines.

brisk ivy
buoyant sinew
#

Oh and jumping on top of dalaran bubble back in the day

brisk ivy
#

Oh yeah! Undercity and Caverns of Time! I never did the deadmines, though.

lyric ether
#

I personally feel rewards are mandatory part of games, when content doesn't feel rewarding it often doesn't feel good. If there is a hard to reach place via parkour it would feel a lot better for it have some reason to achieve that goal. It's not very entertaining to do things for no reason other then just because.

buoyant sinew
brisk ivy
#

One thing I kind of wish GW2 did is add a reward currency to their jumping puzzles as a daily achievement.

lyric ether
formal lynx
#

ngl the game shouldnt give me the ability to jump because i will jump down the next cliff or try to get myself stuck.

buoyant sinew
#

Imagine having a trampoline on your houses yard from movement related achievements

cinder temple
formal lynx
brisk ivy
#

Sometimes in games I find myself jumping around the edges of high places inside major cities. I gotta stop myself from doing that.

lament fiber
#

congrats you played yourself, your jumping puzzle is finding bugs and exploits.

manic sundial
#

Helping with JP and map breaking are my current favorite in gw2

neon stone
#

jumquest are nightmares as I have flash backs to maplestory days lol

meager anchor
#

Developers can add jumping puzzles if they don't care about people with disabilities

shy ocean
#

I would be ok with jump challenges as long as you are not required to do them to progress and they are not timed

lyric ether
zinc steeple
#

i liked the jumping puzzles in gw2

formal lynx
#

i hated doing the jumping puzzles. the one in ffxiv in the stormblood city (forgot the name), at the docks was awful, too.

plush delta
# lyric ether Sounds like an unfair thing to say. People enjoy that type of content why remov...

Because people deserve to be able to play a game? A game should be as accessible as possible because to deny people the ability and joy of playing is kinda...and bear with me.. ableist.

If you're colorblind and a game EVERYONE is playing relies heavily on colors, and you can't enjoy it with people, wouldn't you want accommodations? Things to be a bit different so that you can enjoy something too?

brisk ivy
#

It's nice to be considerate towards others, but I think that most people feel bad if they find out that they hold people back from being able to do something. Hard to know what the right call is.

formal lynx
#

instead of jumping puzzles, id rather have light puzzles, where you need to arrange mirrors to form a symbol.

#

also i just wanna flashbang my friends.

plush delta
#

It's not really hard to know what the right call is. If you know something will alienate a part of your audience and isn't like, the point of the game (like Dark Souls being notoriously difficult) then go with the most accessible option or don't make things locked behind inaccessibility

neon stone
#

I feel like jump puzzles should be a leaderboard thing. Maybe speedruns or getting to the end with the most point/least hit by obstacles etc...

magic lance
#

tbf , it not hard to add a "Colour-blind" setting in the GFX setting.
Have seen it in other games.

brisk ivy
#

If I had to choose a single dish to feed the world, it would be nothing, because otherwise it would alienate someone.

neon stone
#

and then give rewards for every season/rotation for the top 10/5 or something like that

#

maybe a unique decoration blueprint or something

formal lynx
#

i remember when colourblind came out in league. tons of ppl cried bc they said it gives you an unfair advantage but...the only thing it did was that it changed the hp bar to yellow and mana to purple iirc?

plush delta
neon stone
#

this will allow for people to do their "pvp" in the non-traditional sense

lyric ether
# plush delta Because people deserve to be able to play a game? A game should be as accessible...

Perhaps you misunderstand, There is all sorts of contents in a game to participate in, if you can enjoy the game does parts of the game you cannot enjoy or are unable to do for which ever reason have to not exist? Imagine a game where we remove everything anyone is unable to do. Some people can't socialize do we remove chat? Others can't hear do we remove voice chat? Some feel uncomfortable in large or small spaces to we remove these things? Spiders, bees, ants, and all sorts of thigns people have phobias do we remove those. What is left?

golden shadow
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an empty room with nothing in it

brisk ivy
formal lynx
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i do kinda hope that when palia grows bigger, that we can perhaps go swimming in the ocean and dive. or build a makeshift wooden raft.

plush delta
# lyric ether Perhaps you misunderstand, There is all sorts of contents in a game to participa...

This is about inherent inaccessibility, not those things. You're blowing it out of proportion to defend an ableist ideology. It's not about what people don't like, its about if you make a puzzle that's required to do something or enjoy a large part of something the people PAID for or do pay for or whatever, and it's not accessible to the whole audience. If they can't play the game they bought, that's not a good design. Make stuff accessible to as many people as you can. It doesn't take away from others to do so.

formal lynx
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if we do get them, jumping puzzles should be completely optional. unless its like...the first one in the tutorial.

lyric ether
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Agree to disagree, I'd be greatly disappointed if jumping puzzles is not a part of the exploration process. There is a lot of fun in it.

brisk ivy
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Ultimately, I think we can all agree that the social aspect should remain king of Palia.

golden shadow
formal lynx
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maybe there can be like..two ways to do that? like oh theres a mountain. you can
a) go up the normal way
b) turn into tarzan and jump up.

plush delta
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There's this idea in people's minds that in order for someone to get something like this, someone has to lose something, but that's not true at all.

Putting a ramp so people in wheelchairs can get to a building doesn't mean you can't get inside the building now.

Not involving something inherently inaccessible in your game doesn't mean people without those disabilities can't play now.

formal lynx
neon stone
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I think jumping puzzle should be an optional leaderboard competition thing. That way people enjoy them can play and people who don't don't have to play

magic lance
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In GW2's Jumping puzzles, one of my friends could not do them,
So when he needed too, he would logout, and let hes friend log on to his account to do them for him.. 🙂

lyric ether
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taking reward away from content is an easy way to remove some of the fun had.

tacit arrow
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wat

plush delta
# lyric ether Agree to disagree, I'd be greatly disappointed if jumping puzzles is not a part...

If I can't get to enjoy the game I bought because the devs decided that they didn't wanna make it accessible, it's not fair to me. It's not an "agree to disagree" situation, it's about ableism and accessibility. We should never compromise on accessibility for the sake of something that isn't fully necessary. Especially in a game like this, where the point is to be a social game where anyone can play

cinder temple
# plush delta There's this idea in people's minds that in order for someone to get something l...

Except that the primary remark that kicked this off was someone saying that "Developers can add jumping puzzles if they don't care about people with disabilities". Inherently, if you followed that logic, you'd be losing jumping puzzles because of people who can't do them for one reason or another.

Accessibility, broad audience, and alternative routes are perfectly fine, but to say certain things can't be in the game at all isn't as constructive as saying 'here's how we can do that thing but increase accessibility too'.

wispy oriole
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;

lyric ether
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When I say I agree to disagree I'm really saying I don't care to argue with you about it. and am moving on

hybrid citrus
dusk portal
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~slowly backs away~

plush delta
maiden nymph
# plush delta There's this idea in people's minds that in order for someone to get something l...

The question is just how much accessibility you want't to create. The most accessible game would work with voice and/or motion commands or offer a accesability controller API, would be black/white or very high contrast with big surfaces that don't require you to see details, isn't reaction based at all and would not have any rapid movement/animation. Difficulty from puzzels should also be near to nothing.

Key like everything is live is to balance things out, and offer help whenever possible your wheelchair ramp example is a optional that does not hurt anyone.

Sure you could make a 100% accessible game fun, but it would also be 100000% more difficult to pull off, since it's really hard to make things work for every possible group.

plush delta
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I'm not saying you gotta make this work for everyone possible group, y'all are missing my point here over and over again.

If there's a good amount of people who cannot enjoy your content that wants to, because of accessibility, then it's better to fix the accessibility issue.

neon stone
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I'm curious since I do not know. What type of disability doesn't allow a person to do a jump quest?

hybrid citrus
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^

tacit arrow
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^

meager anchor
maiden nymph
lyric ether
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trembling, fear of heights

hybrid citrus
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bro minecraft has jumping puzzles

magic lance
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Sorry guys, due too my severe Motion Sickness, we can only walk and mounts are being removed. 😝

bright forge
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Hi everyone! 👋

hybrid citrus
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hi

dusk portal
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If I may put my opinion in here.

brisk ivy
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I think what bunny's position is somewhat agrees with Hammster's position and that we kind of see eye to eye on this to an extent.

neon stone
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Does fear of heights apply to games? I have a fear of height but I seem to play games fine with jump quest and such

plush delta
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Neurological disabilities, tourretes, anything involving motor control that inherently makes it hard or impossible to perform more specific tasks like this.

formal lynx
polar socket
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At what point was it decided that there would be content locked behind jump quests? From this conversation it just looked as if people were doscussing the potential of jump quests. Nobody was suggesting they are made a requirement or not have alternative ways to access that content right?

lyric ether
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I really do feel like it's best we move on this will turn into a bad situation as it's clear there is those who are extra passionate about it and others who may be a little callous. Just my take. But you guys do you I'll lurk for a bit

formal lynx
buoyant sinew
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My original point was to have such content to those who are interested and capable for it, but not have it include rewards to the point where it's unfair to people who can't or don't want to participate. I'm personally content to do such puzzles with no rewards other than "bragging rights" towards my friends, but even an relatively meaningless "achievement" or similar technically is an reward.

neon stone
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okay cool. Thanks for the education 🙂

plush delta
neon stone
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I still like the idea of jump puzzles being a non-traditional pvp. Seems like those who want to do it would jump on it real quick

hybrid citrus
plush delta
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In a game like Palia that isn't focused on these types of things, it's, in my opinion, INCREDIBLY counter intuitive to the point of the game to not be accessible to people

maiden nymph
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@plush delta i think the most fair thing is to provide a "skip to end" for those things, not just for accessibility but also for people who don't want to get frustrated about content.

buoyant sinew
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I could argue it's not fair towards people who are not suffering from limiting factors such as disabilities either, but then again devs make it and we decide if we want to play (and pay) for it.

maiden nymph
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Everyone for example hated those "simon says" mini games in wildstar and everyone used the addon to skip them

cinder temple
# plush delta I'm not saying you gotta make this work for everyone possible group, y'all are m...

I'm not missing your point, I just disagree with you. People aren't able to complete jumping puzzles just by jumping? How about an alternative route up through the puzzle that just takes a bit longer? Same reward at the end, but the time spent figuring out jumps is adjusted/balanced for by the length of the walking/hiking route. How about a rope ladder item that lets people pull each other up along routes so that they can work together to complete the climb?

Features like jumping puzzles aren't inherently exclusive, but they do require more creative implementation to expand accessibility. Whether that's something that'll be possible in Palia isn't something I can answer, but to say certain content can't be in a game without it being some kind of moral reckoning on a company doesn't seem fair.

Raids are a perfect example. They're usually high-end coordinated content that I can't complete. My proposed solution? Difficulty levels with rewards that scale to difficulty so that people can do them at whatever level is most comfortable for them without missing out on rewards.

We don't have to brush our hands together and say 'welp, guess I'll never be able to do that content', we just need to think a little harder about how to put those things in games and ensure they reach more people.

buoyant sinew
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Maybe I'll just see what the product is and make my own mind then, I'm not that into potentially seeing an argument over a topic such as this one, even though I appreciate the discussion staying very civil

hybrid citrus
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in my opinion having an absurdly hard jump quest or puzzle would be cool bc i like when there are things that are so hard and challenging to do that only like 10 peoples on a server has achieved it o.o

magic lance
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The think that you seem to of forgotten is that its not about the puzzles, it wall be about the interface to control your character.
There was a game a few year back that added touch control for the movments (The game was standard ASWD) purely due to one of their Fans/player could only use a "Mouth Control" which is touch controled.

dusk portal
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I can't do parkour but I'd still love to see the devs implement something along those lines for people who want it.

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~insert screaming down the cliff~

hybrid citrus
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yes like a badge of honor that other players can look at and be impressed by

plush delta
# hybrid citrus in my opinion having an absurdly hard jump quest or puzzle would be cool bc i li...

that's very much not in line with what we've heard of the game thusfar, and I think that's also something everyone seems to be forgetting about my original point.

This game, from what we've heard, aims to be a fun and accessible time, that allows people to relax and enjoy their time with friends or by oneself. Something that counteracts that is out of place and counterintuitive.

In another game, where that content is more of the focus? Absolutely, go for it! Know your audience. Know what kind of people play the things you want to make. give it wiggle room so people outside your audience can enjoy it (ie, expand your audience)

buoyant sinew
void imp
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bunny!!! i played garden paws and there was a bnunny and i thought of you. like how onions now remind me of perin xD

dusk portal
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I look forward to one day watching all the billy goats

plush delta
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But don't do something you know will alienate a large part of the audience you're aiming for

buoyant sinew
polar socket
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Disabilities aside. There will always be content that is more and contebt thatbis less popular. Especially in an MMO. Casual players will tend to be worse all round than people that play hardcore. Some people are completionist and some cpuld not care less and just play the niche of content they enjoy.

Removing any content just reduces the chances of people finding their niche. So as a buisness plan I don't see how removing anything that is just a gameplay feature is likely to work for the company or the general game community. Trying to make it all accessable should be the plan but some things just are not going to work for some people. So there are 3 choices.

  1. Make that content have nonimpact on the rest of the game.
  2. Try to find an alternative route that allows access to others to the end result
  3. Remove that content.

But essentially removing content for a minority is just not fair on the majority and certainly will not help the developers keep the game running if it removes a proportion of their income to do so. I am sorry bunny. But unless there is another solution that I cannot see, I do not know what you expect.

warm plover
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do cats remind you of me nomi?

buoyant sinew
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Suddenly adding pvp based fps combat would contradict the release trailers and info sure, but just adding a bit of movement action..?

plush delta
meager anchor
celest maple
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The devs cannot appease to a certain group of audience that you’re referring to bunny either

buoyant sinew
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Having jumpable terrain somewhere for insignificant reward alienates a large part of such audience you described? Sounds alarming honestly. Anyway, I got to focus a little more on work right now, so I'm not gonna bother you anymore about this.

magic lance
celest maple
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Because it alienates the other majority of players that don’t categorize into that

void imp
warm plover
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meow :(

plush delta
warm plover
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heres a cat 🐈

celest maple
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Let the devs do what they think is best, not feel obligated to please one side or the other

silent cairn
deft sonnet
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here is a tau taumlem

plush delta
patent adder
wintry atlas
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If rewarding only a handful of players is the discussion - I would urge you to look no further than Trials in Destiny 2; the majority despise the game mode. It's not a good look. Yes it provides something for those who do it, but most people just don't even bother playing it & it becomes irrelevant

silent cairn
dusk portal
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I think before we start demanding more accessibility we should probably wait to see what features Palia has. This is all speculation at this point and might end up being water under the bridge.

hybrid citrus
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^

plush delta
silent cairn
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that's fair enough.

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by the way, gotta do my daily question of "are testers playing yet?"

plush delta
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I have full hopes that Palia will be an incredibly accessible and delightful time with however the devs choose to take it, I trust them entirely

void imp
silent cairn
plush delta
lyric ether
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I won't feel like my job is to push anything, I will advocate for content to be fun and engaging and feeling rewarding though.

silent cairn
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hang in there, testers

tribal mist
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einarroll these emojis are adorable

bright forge
cinder temple
tired trench
void imp
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i wonder if the tester will have free access over a week for example or if it's just going to be one weekend or maybe even a few hours

regal swallow
formal lynx
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god what id give to be a tester

wintry atlas
plush delta
cinder temple
heady lion
bright forge
regal swallow
heady lion
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heller

plush delta
warm plover
silent cairn
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If the different waves test different region servers, then they'd probably be booted out. But otherwise I'd expect the existing testers to be part of each new wave, if only to keep testing the upper limits of server scalability.

nocturne lagoon
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When I was testing Glitch the game was only online for a few hours at a time.

void imp
plush delta
hybrid citrus
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if its gonna be like AoC alpha spot testing it will be for a couple hours a day on planned days thru the week :b

wintry atlas
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There is a large element though where this is S6's game. The testers can suggest anything and everything they've ever thought would fit nicely into the game; but without S6's vision, it's hard to pin it down to relevant suggestions.

I hope they get that communication and aren't just suggesting anything and everything that they've enjoyed over the past 20-30 years.

regal swallow
polar socket
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Indeed. I don't disagree at all with the principal. And I don't think it is fair that accessability is such an issue either. I just feel that there has to be a balance between content and accessability or the game will not succeed in a large enough scale to continue in the longer term. Making everything to accessable can also hurt gameplay for those who play games for content AND community. Not just community. So it is a hard balance to find.

silent cairn
plush delta
brittle delta
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heya Chapaa_Heart

void imp
dusk portal
plush delta
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A large part of everything I've said in the surveys had to do with accessibility, both financially and otherwise.

cinder temple
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Ashura is patient. He'll just clean another mug while you kids fiddle with your votes.

regal swallow
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Big man friendly innkeeper!

celest maple
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😅

warm plover
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ashura deserves better

patent adder
lyric ether
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moppyboi 😦

regal swallow
brittle delta
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hey Milky 🥛 have a good day at work! hey Rin!

deft sonnet
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i wonder what my boy Einar is doing today

patent adder
cinder temple
void imp