💬│palia-discussions

[heavy wharf]

See I believe that by the end of the year most of us who are really invested and show that investment will probably have gotten a taste of the game. I am looking forward to seeing glimpses here and there for now. It's incredible how the community is already this big.

[lunar tundra]

Make sure you fill out both surveys, the one on the website, and the one in #📢│palia-news

[lyric ether]

imagine if you could have a child and it would look like a cross between you and whom ever you had the child with. Probably beyond what is realistically possible but that'd be neat.

[bitter marten]

Oh really it's only the first 200 :0.

[bright forge]

No one remind them they could use TSO engine instead of skyrim one

[brave tusk]

My fear is there is too much interest and theres not enough servers at launch, which means queues and lots of waiting :(

[lunar tundra]

That might be a little tricky if we can change what we look like (and I hope we can), but I would be all for it if they figure out a good system.

[vagrant anvil]

poollen

[zenith iris]

Oh it's poo... There's a complaint in my town about the local bee keeper. All the soccer Karen are tired of cleaning their overpriced SUV daily lol

[bitter marten]

No worries. The more hype you generate the more investors see them as a good bet. So more money for servers down the road.

[lyric ether]

would likely need to be done based off what you looked like at the time of conception

[bright forge]

It's good for mmo trust me I rather see that than slowly dying game

[lunar tundra]

Yeah and they've gotten some pretty sizable investments which is good.

[brave tusk]

That's true

[opal hearth]

I’m totoak how many developers r there?

[lyric ether]

I think most of us want to buy merch already.

[brave tusk]

Also do you guys think palia should be subscription option or one time purchase for base game, with additional DLC purchases

[bright forge]

around 50?

[opal hearth]

Dang

[azure rock]

personally I think it should be a one time buy

[elfin heath]

^

[brave tusk]

With cash shop?

[opal hearth]

Yep

[bitter marten]

Just don't hound them for the deadline. No man's sky showed us just how bad a rushed launch can be even if it came from devs who love their game.

[bright forge]

I time and expansions

[lunar tundra]

I'd like to see it open or low cost to get it so there are lots of people, I'd definitely support with cosmetic purchases if that was the route they went.

[dim widget]

We need bees and frogs

[azure rock]

ehhhh maybe but like I was thinking expansions/dlc

[opal hearth]

If they pull a battle pass they will be on their way twoards ruin

[zenith iris]

Oohhh good question... I had the chance of buying Lotro life time account at launch for $200 instead of the 15$ a month and I played for 13 years so best buy ever

[lyric ether]

Chuu plushies, Citizen shirts, Bedding with all sorts of artwork from the game, Note books, or just general tapestry art. so much merch that can be done. I would make my room 100% Palia if I could

[brittle halo]

einar body pillow when

[brave tusk]

A runescape like subscription makes most sense, where you can subscribe for additional content, but still play huge amounts of the game as a f2p player, and when your subscription runes out you just get put into f2p servers then, you can still play the game and keep all your p2p progress

[opal hearth]

No

[lone onyx]

Oh lord. Lol.

[little silo]

That's my que to leave.

[surreal crest]

oh my god I'll get one.

[magic lance]

Or a Full size Einar to hold your fishing rods.

[brittle halo]

the duality of man

[lone onyx]

Is this going to be P2W?

[brave tusk]

no

[lyric ether]

Einar carpool Dummy.

[zenith iris]

P2W goes against everything Palia try to buuld

[bright forge]

We no nothing about monetisation It's all just speculations

[lone onyx]

Ah, alright.

[brave tusk]

most likely will be pay for cosmetics, titles and fancy house stuff

[dim widget]

@brave tusk lol no. No one wants that

[vapid oxide]

why not?

[lyric ether]

Is it crazy that I would totally drive around town with an Einar in my passenger seat?

[covert cairn]

cosmetics drive tons of revenue

[bitter marten]

I do admit I get concerned any time a company doesn't clarify their monetization. The main enjoyment many will get is building houses and amazing things to show off.... When that effort can't even compare to senior fat wallet next door who spent 50 minutes just placing stuff he paid for. Kinda bad feels tbh.

[bright forge]

pls no It will kill game like this

[brave tusk]

Devs gotta earn a wage

[dim widget]

Just sell the game

[vapid oxide]

thats not our call imo, BTP and Freemium as well as sub all have their ups and downs

[lone onyx]

Pay to look good. 😎

[brave tusk]

mmos aren't the same as regular games, they require heavy monetisation post-launch, it's not just build the game, launch make money

[bright forge]

What who told you that?

[zenith iris]

I prefer a clean monthly subscription and avoid microtransactions but I don't mind microtransaction as long as it's purely cosmetic and has no impact on the game

[brave tusk]

if a subscription model meant Palia survives is that a bad thing?

[bitter marten]

I'm fine with SOME cosmetics. But I think they should just be like support stuff. Like a big flag you can stick outside that says "hey I supported"(not literally) is fine with me... However if you can buy all the furniture and crap.... Well why is anyone going to craft it.

[lone crane]

Subscription model will make it die. This day and age, f2p is what wins.

[lyric ether]

If the game is non competitive why does it matter what senior fat wallet has next door?

[bright forge]

I prefer sub than full game cash shop

[brave tusk]

Tell that to Wow and FF14

[magic lance]

tbh if is like "style Packs" like in Conan Exiles dont see a problem

[brittle halo]

to be fair, most major MMOs just kinda have both

[vapid oxide]

who says sub model will make it die lol , I payed $15 a month for wow for 16 years along with like 500 million other people

[bitter marten]

@lone crane hmm.... The two biggest MMOs are subs o.o

[dim widget]

Wow is fucking dead lol

[vapid oxide]

well now it is

[brave tusk]

this, sub model kept wow alive and it's the whole reason why it is still top of the mmorpg world today

[bitter marten]

Wow is dying. It's still the second most played mmo

[lyric ether]

WoW is not really a sub model much anymore anyways, it's practically free to play people pay their subscription fees with gold.

[dim widget]

They are both shit games. Palia is nowhere close to being the same game

[zenith iris]

F2P requires them to sell crap constantly which is annoying for both dev and users

[deft sonnet]

lets fisingggg!!

[dawn matrix]

Boy i love to fish

[bright forge]

But this game is not connan It focus on building houses and other decor stuff so selling it It's just ridiculous

[covert cairn]

at the end of the day games cost money to build, design, and maintain their servers etc. Free to play is great but it doesn't pay those bills. There has to be monetization of some sort.

[bitter marten]

Yush

[dim widget]

BEES AND FROGS

[brave tusk]

Same as high level RS players, both new players will always start off with a sub before earning enough for bonds

[vapid oxide]

thats their own fault though, they decided to make the game more about how they can get you to log in every day and do the same mindless repetitive task like a dungeon run over and over again instead of making content fun to play

[lone crane]

Ya named two mmos with huge fanbases prior to their releases.

[dawn matrix]

I hope that S6 wants soem fishers to test the mechanics!

[deft sonnet]

@dawn matrix bro what is your favorite fish

[zenith iris]

Lotro, swtor, sto lol

[dawn matrix]

My favorite fish is the fishstick

[lone crane]

Aren't those f2p

[deft sonnet]

is it a fish or a stick WE DONT KNOW

[zenith iris]

Not at launch, took 5 years to turn

[lone crane]

So they went... F2p... To survive.

[vapid oxide]

either way its not our call what the game is, they got meetings with investors and possibly people on staff doing research on what the most effective monetization will be

[bitter marten]

My thing would be. Basic functions and gathering and crap. F2p. High end crafting where you can customize the appearance of items and make custom art and crap(if that exists), subscription.

Sorts the FFXIV approach. Let people get a feel of the game, but if they want to play the endgame(the full customizations) they need to sub.

That's what I would want to see.

[brave tusk]

Being f2p will just make palia cash shop heavy

[patent dust]

they probably dont want to talk about monetization because they dont know yet, it is only the pre-apha, yknow?

[zenith iris]

No they switch F2P because their was more money to be made

[dim widget]

I'm pretty sure all of you are qualified for this discussion

[bright forge]

Hi Panda!

[lone crane]

Honestly I'm just biased. I've been playing mabinogi for 13 years and I spent like 5k on it, but the thought of being FORCED to pay to play the game is such a turn off. Make a fun game and I'll throw money at you.

[lyric ether]

While I dislike F2P I am able to face the reality that subscription fees is a dying model. It just is not able to generate enough cash flow without having a massive player base willing to pay a monthly fee. Even those that do continue to keep this model have F2P like cashshops to make up the difference.

[brave tusk]

I'm sure we've all played a good variety of mmorpg's with varying monetisation options, its just a general conversation on it

[vapid oxide]

just stop it at "make a fun game" lol, dev's can't listen to every voice in the crowd or the game gets too saturated with ideas that they start contrasting each other and the game gets worse for it

[zenith iris]

Sell the game $50 , no subs but add store, I'm fine with that

[lone crane]

That's all it is man, make a fun game. Money will come.

[bitter marten]

Most of the gaming community is rather qualified on this subject. Since we have seen cash shops ruin many many titles.

Competition is always a thing, but when you "lose" competition of any kind because some guy can afford to waste 30000 a year on a video game.... That is annoying.

[brittle halo]

so anywho, how to people feel about the potential for different weird breeds given the otherworldly nature of Palia?

[bitter marten]

Hyped for it. If they have diverse fauna I might look into hunting instead of just fishing.

[brittle delta]

i like the recent concept of replacing a payment model with a battlepass that gives you some (non-OP, often QOL) bonusses.. makes it optional and for most people worth to get, while still kinda paying a sub

[lyric ether]

i look forward to seeing all the different types of chimera (non mythical) Type creatures put into the game. Personally rooting for a Sheep Rabbit

[zenith iris]

I feel great about it. Let artists come up with weird new content :)

[lyric ether]

strong dislike, selling QoL means the game created a problem and is asking you to pay to fix it. QoL shouldn't be something paid for.

[vapid oxide]

more interested in the golems lol, I want an engineering factory

[bitter marten]

For me and my ilk f2p is the dying breed. If I see a combo of f2p and cash shops I usually just stop playing. It's bad for community, it's bad for competition, it's bad for everything but pockets.

[brittle halo]

personally I hope they just go full A:TLA with it and make some weird ass half-breeds, gimme big ol' milky dogs with wings

[lone crane]

Battle pass to have a mini einar pet which disappears once your pass runs out. People will pay for this. The money will be printed.

[obsidian crypt]

Oof no qol microtransactions

[brave tusk]

by the time Palia comes out anyways f2p could be dead, or it could be the only option, considering it's only pre-alpha we're looking at years in the future until the game launches

[brittle delta]

i mean QOL as in, you can grind for these materials, or you can have some of them provided (like XP or stuff like that), i should've clarified

[obsidian crypt]

@brittle delta nope still too much 😬

[bitter marten]

Thats a no from me. Anything in a cash shop that makes the effort you put in less meaningful is frankly BS.

[vapid oxide]

may not be years, depends on their testing model, they could have it where they think is ready to start polishing and giving testing rounds as a way to figure out if its in the direction they are hard-releasing in

[brave tusk]

that's a pay to progress system, you're basically paying for an advantage, no matter how small

[vapid oxide]

WoW alphad to release in about a year and a half

[bright forge]

That's not qol its straight up PTW for me

[lyric ether]

generally with that model the amount of materials needed are bloated so much in order to make purchasing the feature more alluring. Selling a solution to a created problem

[brittle delta]

now that would be an issue, though often the battlepass provides materials that will allow working people to keep up with people that have more time, while not giving those people an even bigger advantage due to them not needing these extra materials

[brave tusk]

An early access release at beta would be nice, at that point the game is pretty much near launch condition just with a few tweaks to be made.

[bitter marten]

The amounts will be bloated in end game. Which is why when you see some guy who has his special chair, you know he earned it. You know unless cash shops exist and you just assume he bought it and all his hard work is equated to some rich dudes credit card swipe.

[vapid oxide]

what they've done with holding off release announement is give themselves a nice padding incase they need to do some serious redesigns or fixes

[brave tusk]

I hope they've got a way to prevent highly advanced / rich players dominating market prices, either driving it too high for new players to buy things, or too low for new players to make money

[vapid oxide]

also means they did well with investors who aren't pressuring them to release an unfinished project

[lyric ether]

normally I'm down with a cosmetic option, but social game so I don't know what I would like and probably won't know until I see the game world. I do know what I don't like though.

[lone crane]

Good.old buffer time.

[brave tusk]

true that, we don't want another cyberpunk incident

[bitter marten]

Deadlines before beta is ridiculous.

[zenith iris]

I all for developer to milk trust fund babies bank accounts as long as it doesn't affect me

[knotty crown]

This. FF14 and WoW both cheated, they already had a following.

AQ was successful with one-time paid upgrades. RS was successful with super cheap membership ($5) and like at least half of the content when subs launched was still F2P.

You don't use $15 membership to access any content in a game if it's a fresh, new, indie project. B2P, maybe, but just that, and only if you're already expecting a large playerbase.

[vapid oxide]

what killed blizzard is they broke their original game pattern, they literally killed millions of dollars in games that werent ever going to be good instead of releasing them to try and make money like Atari did

Starcraft Ghost and a point and click Thrall adventure , both titles that nobody ever saw the light of day, and Project Titan was re-designed into a completely new game

[lone crane]

Yo man we talking about dead games that didn't get released cause man fallout had a good one

[lyric ether]

It's good to have a company that only releases solid games in a era where 90% of games are trash. Too many trash games makes people not want to buy games anymore. So when you see that a company always has good games you become loyal to that company and always buy what they release.

[zenith iris]

For $10 a month,access our trash can of games, as is but new in box lol

[honest garnet]

Hi

[surreal crest]

howdy

[lyric ether]

what would probably be best is to have a smaller company within a company that sells your games that didn't make the quality cut, in order to get a little cash back without hurting the name of the main company.

[brittle delta]

would still 100% be associated with the main company tho

[lyric ether]

it would, but people would still know when it's their quality games or one of their B tier games

[zenith iris]

Still crying about the Stargate MMO. Palia should have Stargates, just saying

[lyric ether]

Trust is a huge thing when buying games right now. So if a company is honest about the quality of their product that is good. just imho

[arctic onyx]

good earth time!

[zenith iris]

Ain't S6 loaded with experience people from Blizzard and other big studios, tired of the same BS anyway? So this should be special :)

[void imp]

good jolly earth time!

[vapid oxide]

away from the empire ruiner that is activision anyway

[stable oar]

I woke up this morning with a sinking feeling of nostalgia. Started watching the Animaniacs reboot and.. wow, it's so good! Really satirical and meta. It's comfortating in a way.

[lyric ether]

it will be interesting to see how they handle launches that is for sure. I can't wait to see what type of company S6 is. So far it's been good.

[bright forge]

Hi nomi!

[void imp]

perin 🧸

[elfin heath]

I swear, I have been skipping game releases because of dishonesty. Video game companies need to be more transparent with how things are going and just be honest with whether they can make deadlines or not.

[lyric ether]

Not unsurprising we are sort of in the area that started the gaming crisis in the 80's. Too many games and the trust level is dropping fast due to the quality.

[zenith iris]

Deadline are normally dictated by publishers , they are the real evil

[brittle delta]

It's also just a big planning issue.

[bitter marten]

Can confirm. Blizzard and bathesda were companies I once through I would own every title of... I now have no intention to ever but their game until well after release and reviews.

[zenith iris]

Ahhaha when we had 13 console on the market and even black and decker were making games lol

[lyric ether]

that said we are heading offtopic so I'll peep out before a mod comes in and tells me to get ontopic lol

[zenith iris]

Palia needs Stargates, fishing boats and groudhogs

[bitter marten]

If it says fishing in the title Palia needs it.

[arctic onyx]

my life's dream is to build an aracde for everyone to enjoy, i want to perserve as many consoles and games from the past

[bright forge]

Do you like mini-games for crafting to be a thing in palia?

[brittle delta]

fishing explosives 🤔

[vapid oxide]

call that a sushi charge

[bitter marten]

Why would that ever be a no?

[knotty crown]

Lots of companies did that. AE (AQ creators) and Jagex (RS creators) did the exact same thing.

[lyric ether]

fishing with explosives would be a blast.

[zenith iris]

Palia's Tackle and Rods

[bitter marten]

I want to be a fish monger. Hope there is a player owned stores option fingers crossed

[zenith iris]

Too much dynamite fishing turn the lake into a quarry!!!

[brittle delta]

they are extremely destructive to the environment and all surrounding living things.. there's a reason it's illegal lmao

[vapid oxide]

dare I say, houseboat?

[quaint kernel]

Chuuu

[bitter marten]

I mean that's not much issue in a game >=>

[knotty crown]

I'm still crying about SGU getting canceled. Loved that show.

[lyric ether]

one of my favorite harvest moon games was Grand Bazaar simply due to the ran shop. I don't even care if it's just NPC's that come in and buy my junk. I want to run a store.

[brittle delta]

ah yes, beautiful cozy nature game where you blow all living creatures to bits on a whim

[remote latch]

They have fishing and the best equivalent to groundhogs are chapaa/ chuu

[civic basin]

Good morning Palians, any juicy gossips for me today?!

[void imp]

i think you can run a store in garden paws

[zenith iris]

There's a comic book version of season 3, wasn't great. Can we read comics in Palia? Can I craft comic books?

[bitter marten]

Oh wait NPCs buying from the shop is a super interesting way to limit the economy. Just have random sales to NPCs, increases demand, and you can set their prices limits to avoid too much inflation or deflation.

Never thought of it before but that would be a super good way to limit some of the more common economy issues.

[vapid oxide]

that could be cool

[lyric ether]

and because npcs buys stuff too nobody really loses.

[vapid oxide]

encourages all players to sell things harvest moon style but also gives players incentive to check shops as they open if they are looking for good deals

[zenith iris]

I need to be able to craft NPCs!!! Does that make me a necromancer?

[remote latch]

Yeah I was imagining taking my farm produce to the inn so the chef could use it to make food for the people using the inn

[lyric ether]

Plus come on how cool would it be to make a fishing pole and have einar come in and buy it from you

[knotty crown]

The comic book wasn't made by the same writers, so it doesn't count.

[zenith iris]

Need aquarium for the house where we can put fish we fished!

[remote latch]

Seeing as Einar has his own fishing shack if I remember rightly it’s unlikely but you never know

[bitter marten]

Aquarium is of vital importance.

[craggy niche]

A

[tawdry marsh]

Or getting better deals for your produce in other towns due to not getting that item in a long time.

[brittle delta]

wouldn't that make economy surrounding new content quite difficult? new 'x' comes out, needs certain materials, suddenly you got npc's competing for the materials, demand skyrockets even more to a point where economy surrounding it is pretty much dead for a bit until everyone gathered their own stuff.. having commision based resource sinks would be a better alternative i think, with less randomless and a controlled way of keeping decent prices

[zenith iris]

And terrariums

[bitter marten]

You could just have NPCs primarily buying crafted products, rather than raw material.

[zenith iris]

I said it wasn't great lol

[vapid oxide]

or both

[vale lynx]

Am I the oldest one here at 50? I played PRINT on an Apple II E.

[vapid oxide]

Oregon trail >

[remote latch]

Nope 50 here and I believe there’s someone who said they were 51

[zenith iris]

Aaahhh the good old days you could turn on the radio to record a game on tape that was sent thru the airwaves :)

[vale lynx]

Phew. Thanks.

[knotty crown]

Oregon Trail MMO when

[lyric ether]

not exactly, could be setup so NPC's only come into the shop at specific time intervals. So players can have a first shot at purchasing materials and crafting goods. The NPCs are just there to make managing a shop not feel boring sitting there with nobody coming in.

[vale lynx]

What?! HAHAHA Never heard of that.

[brittle delta]

then you'd give players with a different schedule a really massive disadvantage

[bitter marten]

What about when the read the war of the worlds over the airways and people think it's an actual alien invasion (note this is not personal experience)

[knotty crown]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/8ty91/who_else_thinks_its_time_for_an_mmorpg_version_of/

[modest sedge]

Hope everyone is doing good today. 🙂

[knotty crown]

Just wait until they have to ford the 25-man Heroic River. After the groups inevitable defeat, there'll be miles of oxen, wheels, axles, and bullets strewn about the epic river.

lol

[lyric ether]

Not exactly, if people play at different hours there will be people that open their shops at different hours. So unless there is some wonky thing that makes it so people that play at specifc times don't gather and sell materials it should theoratically be fine.

[deft sonnet]

hypuhh

[undone mist]

How are you beautiful Palians today?

[jolly summit]

This reminds me of Ragnarok Online tbh

[bright forge]

great

[jolly summit]

With that game you could open a shop as a blacksmith or whatever and sell stuff while you're not there

[bright forge]

What mini-game for fishing will be best in your opinion? More like Stardew or some other one?

[deft sonnet]

hmm idk

[vapid oxide]

imo make something new

[bitter marten]

The Stardew one is pretty fun. But it could use more complexity as it gets higher.

[modest sedge]

I'd like to see some innovation with fishing. Something new.

[brittle delta]

i didn't mind stardew's, but a lot of people found it too difficult.. i'd like something new though

[deft sonnet]

same tbh

[knotty crown]

Asta Online's

[bitter marten]

But I agree new entirely would be better.

[undone mist]

BDO fishing

[brittle delta]

something that better reflects fishing as well, instead of some random minigame that doesn't actually make any sense at all

[undone mist]

I loved that minigame for fishing so much. It was simple, yet it took skill.

[modest sedge]

Minecraft fishing 😏

[bitter marten]

Bdo makes me feel sad inside. 5 years or so ago I was so.... So.... So hyped for that game.

[raw quarry]

Is it good? I just bought that game for about 60p

[brittle delta]

can't really call that much of a minigame tbh

[undone mist]

I love BDO, but i havent used the new client with new owners.

[modest sedge]

Runescape fishing then. 😏

[undone mist]

I spent maybe 2k hours in it setting up a ship building empire.

[brittle delta]

even less so

[bitter marten]

It still looks fun, but the problem is it promised so so so many cool amazing things during it's alphas.... And they just got dropped. Publisher just didn't like the risks of innovation.

[raw quarry]

Fun fact, not that far from me is a fish and chip shop, and literally next door is a tropical fish aquarium shop thing, funny as crap

[brittle delta]

CD should be out before the end of the year tho :)

[bitter marten]

Was very very disappointing, especially when the game was still ok after... Cuz it probably would have been historical if not.

[worldly helm]

Heya guys who are hyped? !!! 🙂

[vapid oxide]

as long as its better than breath of the wild fishing rofl

[deft sonnet]

Chapaa Chapaa Chapaa Chuu Chuu

[brittle delta]

jump in, swim after fish, drown, repeat

[raw quarry]

bomb the water

[lunar tundra]

Yeah, I like more than just waiting for the bobber and reeling the fish in, but I would like to see something fresh and new.

[brittle delta]

i think the bass fishing games had an actual tension system, and you could just improve on that with better material tools having higher limits (and making easier fish a lot easier to catch as well) and different baits attracting more difficult fish so you can pick your own difficulty, something like that could be neat

[bitter marten]

Honestly assuming they get some nice atmospherics I'll enjoy fishing even if it's "boring". What I'd really like to see is varied crafting ingredients. In example most things made with wood need some sealant or something to keep it from getting water damage. Having a wide spread of items to substitute in that from bees wax to animal fat... Could be cool and keep any one item from getting too insane to find.

[small hinge]

I know it’s VR but did anyone see Orbus fishing style? You set the bait on the hook, throw it in(can be a bar) slowly reel the line in, if you get a hook you gotta whip the fishing pole up to set the hook, then lower it back down if the rod turns yellow then red due to force, and just keep reeling and whipping the pole up until the fish fires out. Of course some fish will be easy peasy just reel, but stronger ones appear as you skill up… Also hello everyone

[bitter marten]

And would be cooler than "for a chair you need wood. Go chop a tree"

👋

[raw quarry]

Honestly sounds unnecessarily detailed, I imagine it'd result in many people just googling through a wiki for ages being frustrated that they can't just go out on the pretty water

[brittle delta]

kinda the concept i was going for ye.. too much tension and the line snaps, too little and you give the fish more line (and it might eventually escape?) having better materials allows you to just reel in easier fish faster since you dont have to worry about tension too much

[bitter marten]

You can just have defaults in the recipe and then click the item to see substitutes. Should be easier rather than harder.

[small hinge]

Yep, and it would use the mouse to control the tension

[bitter marten]

That way there is a decent chance you know where to find or how to make at least one of the options.

[brittle delta]

mouse or button mashing or whatever other speed control could be interesting, as long as it's something everyone can enjoy

[raw quarry]

Oh I misread your comment, I thought you meant different materials had different effects

[bitter marten]

Nah. While that would be super cool, I agree it'd be aggravating to learn.

[small hinge]

I feel like simply holding down the mouse button to reel, would be super beginner friendly, and just let off to release tension

So it’s just a balance of moving your mouse, and clicking and un clicking to reel

[magic lance]

Would be funny if you used wood from a tree with magic,
and it would randomly walk around your house from time to time.

[bitter marten]

Hold down mouse to reel, have to move the mouse to keep the rod within a certain zone during the reeling which moves. Color of zone changes to show whether there is too much resistance to reel.

[umbral ferry]

Unfortunately people dislike actually figuring out stuff in games, yeah. They'd rather google a guide for everything. Which is a shame when you want more games that have interesting systems that take time to explore 😂

[small hinge]

Exactly SAimNE I think that’s way more engaging and can grow in skill versus… throw bobber, wait for splash, click, you did it!

[umbral ferry]

I'm a fan when there are systems where /I/ can learn I guess. Rather than my character learn something

[bitter marten]

Plus you can make the zone smaller for rarer fish, allows for progression quite easily.

[vapid oxide]

that just turns into google everything though

[maiden nymph]

That's why i love playing programming puzzle games 🙂

[small hinge]

Also stealing from Rust a little bit, they have a mark appear on a tree and stones, and if you hit it , you farm it faster for consecutive marked hits as it moves around… in Palia you can maybe identify “weak spots” as you skill up and get faster at harvesting with a bit of skilll

[umbral ferry]

I guess, but those always lack a greater appeal. I mean, it's cool to solve little programming puzzles or something, but I want an actual world to explore and the like, not just puzzle1, puzzle2,, puzzle3

[serene stratus]

I honestly love fishing in Stardew Valley. There are tools to help you level up. It's just not masterable in a few tries, which I think frustrates some people

[glossy osprey]

i love it too

[maiden nymph]

There are actually some with very good story writing and immersion, like exapunks

[bitter marten]

I found Stardew system pretty simple tho 0.o

[knotty crown]

Sometimes I wish other people on this discord actually did fishing in Asta. q.q

[umbral ferry]

@maiden nymph Played it, it's nice, but it isn't a world really. I don't feel like it's all that connected personally, just puzzles with a bit of lore. I want the puzzles to be part of the greater RPG game I guess

[dim widget]

I like discord and all. But it's not the best place for active discussions.

[undone mist]

So sorta like BDO where you had multiple wood types

[umbral ferry]

Stardew is a bit too simple in everything it does

[serene stratus]

I think the key thing is that there are dozens of fish, with different behavior patterns, and each have increasing difficulty levels

[undone mist]

Ill admit, I loved hunting down tree types in bdo. You got to hike

[small hinge]

Can’t wait to try hunting gathering and fishing in a fresh world ahhhhhh

[bitter marten]

Same. can't wait til they announce the pre-alpha date.

[umbral ferry]

It's like with that potion crafting simulator. I like the system, but if I just make potions for potion puzzles or such, it's kinda not that interesting. I want to have that kinda thing in an actual RPG game

[knotty crown]

Dragonfable's Potion crafting was...interesting

[maiden nymph]

Valid point 🙂 Though i really went into the game and also made games in it with the redshift and competed with colleagues from work on the best solution so it added more layers for me then just the puzzles. Also i was invested in the story part.

[small hinge]

Make sure you sign the NDA if you haven’t!

[bitter marten]

Call me crazy but mabinogi has probably had the best MMO crafting system. Didn't care for the game, but they were doing something in the crafting.

[small hinge]

Your role should change to pre-alpha tester instead of tester

[bitter marten]

Just did today

[small hinge]

Nice

And grats!

[bitter marten]

Ty

[umbral ferry]

Yeah, that makes it nicer. I guess I just know quite a few of programming puzzle games (all the zachtronics ones I guess), but no games that actually are normal RPGs with interesting crafting in them haha

[surreal crest]

yo what's the tester role?

[knotty crown]

Or don't sign the NDA, talk about what's in the NDA, then sign the NDA. Free real estate!

[small hinge]

Tester means picked, pre alpha means they signed NDA

[surreal crest]

ay okay

[gray knoll]

I do really look forward to how the crafting of items and gathering will work. Alot of my friends are builder types and I'm the one who likes listening to them work while I gather raw materials. Been doing that alot in Conan and valheim recently with friends.

[small hinge]

200 IQ Rez!

[mint steppe]

I’m excited for a crafting system

[umbral ferry]

Though I would love if they made a newer, better version of Ruckingenur II

[brisk egret]

Bet it's a standard NDA you need to sign that every game use, nothing special to be shared.

[maiden nymph]

I mean technically that's shenzen IO

[gray knoll]

I kinda hope that you will be able to specialize in gathering or creating certain groups of items.

[umbral ferry]

Hmm nah, you don't analyze existing sytems in shenzhen

[maiden nymph]

that's why i said technically 😛

[small hinge]

They mentioned in at least cook terms, That a skilled chef would make better food than non skilled, so people will most likely be picking a specialty starting out

[maiden nymph]

But it's nice to rev engineer stuff so i would approve of a modern version of it

[umbral ferry]

Fair :p

[bitter marten]

Well I don't know if I can say this, but the contents of the NDA were an NDA.

[knotty crown]

There's actually a work I'm reading right now that deals with this by having a magic contract, the details of which you won't know until you sign it. It's... interesting.

[small hinge]

Which either is a 2 maximum skill ls you can level like WoW or just reallllly long skill lines so you have to commit

[rare saddle]

I do the same in minecraft.. my son loves to build stuff, and I love to gather stuff 🙂

[knotty crown]

Yes, but you're not bound by an NDA until you sign it. So you can tell people the contents of the NDA before you sign it.

[surreal crest]

nu-uh

[bitter marten]

No I'm saying NDAs are basically all the same lol.

[small hinge]

Rez I doubt they can access the game before signing

[umbral ferry]

They aren't obligated to let you sign it

[vale lynx]

I loved playing ArcheAge but found it difficult to enjoy because I had to join a guild and fight. I'm hoping I can build a neighborhood in this game and actually walk down the road and see my friend like in Second Life...and speak in voice! Hey neighbor!

[gray knoll]

Oooo that will be cool! While it was really simple at the time, I enjoyed that in mists of pandaria, cooking had a bunch different specialty. And you could only commit to one.

[knotty crown]

They can tell the contents OF THE NDA before they sign the NDA.

From a legal standpoint, of course.

[mint steppe]

Right and build your own shops and just a cool experience all around

[bitter marten]

Those NDAs are tried and true. You aren't finding a loophole, and it's basically copy pasta at this point. NDAs are just something you got to read to make sure you didn't just volunteer to be a human centipede. Other than that not very interesting.

[raw quarry]

Unless you have to sign an NDA before they show you the proper NDA

[small hinge]

Ooo gottem

[knotty crown]

^ Which was what I kind of mentioned before, but yeah.

[vale lynx]

I liked building in Skyrim and especially in Second Life.

[knotty crown]

That's the best way to do it Spooky.

[umbral ferry]

I so wish someone would make a new Second Life, but I guess the closest we get so far is VRChat

[vapid oxide]

"building" in skyrim lol, more like talk to NPC and have things pop up

[vale lynx]

Yes. Having a shop and offering products for sale. In-world economy. Hmm.

[mint steppe]

Ohh the possibilities.

[vale lynx]

Would love to know if Palia could go in the direction of a user created world. Those days have been long gone.

[mint steppe]

That’s what I actually miss is how creative people can be and be able to import it.

[umbral ferry]

Haha, that would have been nice

[keen geyser]

Hello pals. Hope everyone is well today

[vale lynx]

I was a mage and had to forage for plants and mix them to get the potions I needed to battle. It was actually pretty involved.

[warm plover]

it seems difficult based on the answers we've had about servers (that it's very easy to serverhop and such)
since it sounds like you're not really tied down to any specific server, which in turn means the servers themselves aren't going to be very individually different

[raw quarry]

The more I think about the servers, the more confused I get, ngl

[warm plover]

fair enough
the answers were a bit confusing

[bitter marten]

That's why I'm hyped about some questions. The people asking about player owned shops and whether you can build everywhere are likely looking to see if it has that experience.

[umbral ferry]

Confused how

[keen geyser]

Yeah. It should be interesting to see how it goes

[bitter marten]

Can't wait to see the answers.

[brittle delta]

hopefully we'll get some more info regarding servers on the 8th

[umbral ferry]

If we'll even get answers on that. A lot of things they're not really answering yet

[keen geyser]

Im so excited to build.

[warm plover]

since one basically said "you dont pick a server" and the other one said "you can self-organize"
im sure those ideas can coexist somehow, i'm just not sure specifically how

[bitter marten]

Give them time. Gotta make sure they don't accidentally lie. Features change a lot.

They can basically only answer stuff that they've got a clear view on how it will be, a lot of that is foggy this early in development.

[vale lynx]

Server architecture with future proofing for growth is so difficult, I imagine. How many characters on a plot with how many moving objects at various times of the day from various countries and such. Tough.

[warm plover]

i totally understand what those words mean
<-- totally clueless about tech stuff despite being gen z

[mint steppe]

impatiently waits for Q&A on Thursday

[umbral ferry]

In general MMO servers are built for a certain amount of people in one area. Some MMOs even enforce that where they can (if they have separated zones and just don't let you zone in if a zone is too full). Other just grow laggy if the number grow slarger than the specs

[raw quarry]

Well Neighbourhoods are likely server independent instances. I'm confused about the main world though. I imagine it's auto-servered, or something, so then that complicates things depending on how you interact with your guild and friends... obviously adding a friend wont lock you into the same world forever, how will the game balance the world server population and interactions without having loading screens between server hopping or something. How can you have an MMO size game with friend-server priority system, and have it all fluid?

[gray knoll]

Yeah, I honestly wouldn't fret about it too much. Just wait and see how initial implementation is and then we can hopefully help shape it into something good for everyone, as far as servers are concerned.

[warm plover]

I'll just turn my brain off for the next few days till we get new info
and then i'll go into another fugue state putting the relevant info into my doc

[umbral ferry]

I kinda hope the main world will be serverless haha. Always feels weird with the server hoping to meet friends and stuff

[raw quarry]

Have fun Rin! Oh wait I thought you were leaving.

[warm plover]

i will not be having fun but thank u

[mint steppe]

Devs can you give us a answer to 1 question as a sneak peak lol bleh

[brittle delta]

yeah.. answer this.. how are you today dev

[keen geyser]

Just a little treat anwser.

[raw quarry]

Cute

[warm plover]

palia community can have little an answer, as a treat

[vale lynx]

I played Second Life for over 10 years. One of my favorite things to do was fly 10 of my friends in a DC3 across the world as a challenge. How many sims could we cross before the plane crashes?

[umbral ferry]

Char creation wish: good makeup options :p Hate when games have like "face paint 1" and "face paint 2" with very few selection for how you want your eye makeup to be and then you can only have eye + lipstick or eye + blush or the like, not eye + lipstick + blush and it's a pain

[raw quarry]

Fashion Souls meta-game BABY!!! The OP hidden ''cute'' stat.

[vapid oxide]

yeah gotta spend 10 hours doing eye shading so you can never see them again lol

[tranquil prairie]

or when the options are like..all for light skin tones and then i’m just there like 🧍🏾

pain 😔

[warm plover]

cute stat better not be lower by default on masculine models or ill fight someone

[slim shard]

Good Evening from Germany! Good Timezone to everyone else! Finally 2h to relax before Bedtime! 🙂

[undone mist]

I cant remember how many players UE4 could handle per zone. Generally speaking ue4 doesnt handle big open work environments without some sort of interlaced instances

Unless the devs are doing something, Im totally unaware of. Which is utterly possible.

[raw quarry]

I noticed this myself, I have a template for a black chick I made, and sometimes try recreate her in games, I always have to look up a guide for black female. I was never sure whether the games were bad for black characters, or I was just too white to make one, lol. I think the dev said they have acknowledged this though.

[umbral ferry]

Haha, personally I don't have that issue, but it sounds like a pain yeah

[maiden nymph]

UE4 does not necessarily limit the player count, it's mostly up to the server

[warm plover]

We can see a black character in the trailer and they look really good

[undone mist]

@maiden nymph True, however, Ive yet to see many of the games which use ue4 surpass i think its 80 or so people per

[tranquil prairie]

oh definitely i don’t doubt them! just past experiences bdhxbdnd

[bitter marten]

Is Palia ue4?

[warm plover]

yeah

[bitter marten]

Actually didn't know that.

[dense ibex]

what is UE4..?

[bitter marten]

Unreal engine 4

[undone mist]

Unreal engine 4

[umbral ferry]

Depends on what networking they use too I guess. If they use the builtin one

[vale moth]

Any idea when alpha invites might happen? Q3/Q4? 2022?

[tranquil prairie]

it’s definitely gotten better over the years at least!

[maiden nymph]

TERA uses UE3 and manages way more then 400 in one zone batteling (though it's badly optimized)

[bitter marten]

Depends on how long it takes pre alpha to finish lol.

[brittle delta]

200 have gone out, more going out in the coming weeks (this is pre-alpha oops)

[patent dust]

no idea about alpha, or if theyll even do an alpha tbh, they may skip to beta

[dense ibex]

awh seems like i applied bit too late :(

[undone mist]

I think Terra skipped a inventory check on the Ue3 backend. Which lead to some issues.

[vale moth]

lol yeah i ment pre-alpha xD sorry

[bitter marten]

It always depends on how it goes. There are typically internal goals needing to be net before each progression. We don't know those, so no way to tell how likely it is when each level will get hit.

[brittle delta]

never too late, not much is known about the selection process

[dense ibex]

fingers crossed then ^^ im here for updates and all that

[patent dust]

ye, invites for just under 200 have already been sent, and more invites are going to be sent in the coming weeks

[brittle delta]

also is that scaramouche i see

[undone mist]

You ever notice almost no one with the tester role goes around gray lol

[dense ibex]

yes pls dont shame me for being a kinnie

[bitter marten]

Dude I got a default profile pic, don't expect any expert discord operation from me.

[vale moth]

😦 feels bad, soo wanted to be part of the first grouping

[brittle delta]

apparantly some have received some harassment at the start, and many just have other roles that take priority over it

[small hinge]

Your typing on mobile. Honestly it’s a feat

[undone mist]

Aye Mag, thats why I dont use mine. I love being a Chuu supporter

[bitter marten]

@vale moth you might still be, they're doing more invites for the first test I think.

[undone mist]

Chaapa that is

[celest maple]

Are the alpha people under strict nda? Or can they share experiences?

[patent dust]

its interesting to see people in large-ish servers with default pictures that are new to discord, i always assumed pretty much everyone used discord lol

[brittle delta]

strict NDA

[undone mist]

Strict per usual with a alpha

[bitter marten]

Im not really new to discord. Just never mess with settings lol

[dense ibex]

can someone explain chuu and chaapa to me? ^^ sorry im like a baby for this game

[patent dust]

the most we can share is how we feel about it, but nothing specific. we could say things like "yeah this game is great, i love fishing" but i cant tell you any specific reason why. or i can say "this game is just..awful, its all wrong" but again, nothing specific

[bitter marten]

Both creatures in the game, and chuus are better.

[abstract tusk]

This will be my first focus in pre-alpha, TBH. As well as unambiguously Black facial features and textured hair options.

[raw quarry]

Official name for the squirrel dog thing is Chappa, although the community gave it an unofficial name (named after a user here who brought up naming it) Chuu, and it stuck.. really well.

[dense ibex]

i chose chuu ^^ sounds like a bird

ive realised it isnt but my budgie makes a sound like that

[tranquil prairie]

YES!! i could go on about these things ahaha

[bitter marten]

I hope they have a lot of freedom in customization. It'll probably be pretty big in a community/appearance focused MMO this is likely to be.

[brittle delta]

i wonder if character costumization is even gonna be in already

[patent dust]

the character creation features in pre-alpha will be a bit limited, but they will be expanded before full release. such as for now theres only 2 body types, but thatll change

[remote latch]

Oh gosh no. I’ve spent more time chat this month on this server than I have with my wow buddies in our channel that’s 1 or 2 years old. Before that no discord

[dense ibex]

i love diversity in character customisation

[patent dust]

my guess is theres just enough to make who you want, but not massive options yet

[bitter marten]

Making all sorts of outfits/hairstyles that suit your character perfectly is probably going to be huge here. Or as wow players know it, transmog comps.

[tranquil prairie]

all for having multiple body types too!! all the diversity please

[dense ibex]

are there other creatures you can play as other than human,

[brittle delta]

thinking it might not be much more than a few presets, since that isnt something that needs testing mechanically but just applying more content

[vapid oxide]

think story is mostly focused on all players being human only atm

[dense ibex]

awh thats okay ^^

[patent dust]

just human, because that is the basis of the story, though we might get new playable races in the future? maybe? lol

[raw quarry]

I've heard potentially Elves at some point, but I'm not confident that was a Dev quote

[patent adder]

Hello friends ☺️

[dense ibex]

ive only heard a few things about this game trough a tiktok so i hope you dont mind questions

[brittle delta]

hey friend 🥛

[bitter marten]

It would be super hype if they had achievements or quests to unlock new races. Community events to expand the selection. Noice.

[half prairie]

Have any news about the pre alpha test?

[patent dust]

not at all :D questions is kinda my thing here lol

[cinder temple]

I think I heard some muttering about maybe adding elves down the road since they're the natives of Palia, but I don't recall if it was a dev who said so, so grain of salt. It'd be nice though.

[brittle delta]

200 invites have been sent out, testing hasnt started, more invites in coming weeks

[bitter marten]

Like you gotta group together and build a city for them to live, and after they migrate in you get to select them as pcs. Would be pogchamp.

[dense ibex]

thank you for helping out ^^

[patent dust]

nothing new outside of #📢│palia-news llast week

[cinder temple]

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't see you essentially said the same thing. I've got Taubrains today.

[manic timber]

(Does a foxy stretch and toothy yawn before peering around) Bored fox.

[half prairie]

Thanks for the answers!

[patent dust]

yeah it turned out that that wasnt actually said by a dev :x it was just said so much it got adopted as true

[cold mesa]

How are all you cool cats and kittens doing?

[brittle delta]

Hey Mushy!! doin alright, how about you

[cinder temple]

Aw, you know, thinkin' about blue dogs.

[cold mesa]

Feeling pretty good! Slept well and just relaxing! You?

[tranquil prairie]

hi!!

[patent adder]

How are you doing? 😄

[cold mesa]

hi hi hi

[brittle delta]

still doin alright how are you milky

[patent adder]

Hey Ember. ☺️

[devout pond]

Would someone please explain how you knew that you had been chosen as a tester? I know it was here on Discord, but how exactly did you know, please? And thank you in advance!

[patent adder]

I am alright! Just woke up a little bit ago

[brittle delta]

Testers have been given a role in the discord, as well as received an email some time after that

[tranquil prairie]

i hope you are well!

[tiny talon]

You get a tester role and access to new channels :)

[bright forge]

You get a tester role and new channels appears for you

[devout pond]

Great. Thank you so much!!!

[patent adder]

Yeah I am doing well, thank you. I hope you're doing well too ☺️

[brittle delta]

good to hear, good morning~!

[manic timber]

I thought you got an owl with a letter, and then when you got selected, you had to go through a further selection to see what house you belonged in?

[devout pond]

Lol

[patent adder]

That's how I got mine 👀

[brittle delta]

wrong franchise, that's skyrim

[manic timber]

Sure it's not Fallout?

[brittle delta]

might be fall guys

[tranquil prairie]

doing pretty good, yeah!

[dense ibex]

no that sounds like overwatch

[raw quarry]

Minesweeper?

[tranquil prairie]

nah that’s chess

[manic timber]

Oh... somewhere a number of gamers just cringed, and screamed out "BOOMERS!" in horror and were silenced.

[bright forge]

No you mixed that up the vinyl record is brought up by chapaa you find in your trash can when he is searching for food in your garbage!

[bitter marten]

o.o

[dense ibex]

league of legends, demacia to be excat

[manic timber]

So... basically a fox like critter brings your message?

[bright forge]

no it's glued to him he is just there for garbage

[manic timber]

LOL

[small hinge]

Auni is faster than a chapaa i bet

[manic timber]

I totally picture a "get it off, get it off, get it off" fox like thing running around and whining.

[keen basin]

I love chapaa whether they're fast or slow

[brittle delta]

i doubt you'd even get your mail if a chapaa "delivers" it.. they might just eat it

[bright forge]

That's why it's glued to their back

[raw quarry]

Imagine a Chuu as slow and chill as a sloth? He sits manspreading on the couch like a human watching tv all day.

[tiny talon]

That's animal abuse

[keen basin]

Happy, beautiful baby!

[dawn heron]

yeah

[bright forge]

Who seed It was glued by someone It just get stuck there in mud on fur by random

[brittle delta]

sticky garbage juice

[tiny talon]

Okay good lol

[bright forge]

That's why so low % to get it

OK jokes aside I would never hurt any animal.

[tiny talon]

Lol sorry if I killed the mood I was just joking too!

[bright forge]

No It's ok but I just wanted to get things straight

[patent adder]

🥺

[regal swallow]

Milky is a good pal to go on walks with

[pine quartz]

evening all

[bright forge]

I know

[tiny talon]

It would be cute to have farm animals that kind of resemble real life animals but are a little different. Cute piggies, cows, chickens that are a little mystical looking !

[brittle delta]

could leave out those last 5 words

[brittle delta]

someone brought up hybrid fantasy animals like avatar and i want em

[surreal crest]

did someone said mystical?

[pine quartz]

just left wow for good , joined here so i'm looking forward to not having to grind gear/weapons/conventants/ilvls/campaignes and much more, by the sound of it, this mmo will be a breathe of fresh air.

[tranquil prairie]

yes omg!! like in the avatar

[tranquil prairie]

ooh great minds!

[tiny talon]

Yesss that would be awesome, I was thinking of studio ghibli but avatar ones are pretty similar to what I was thinking of too!

[bright forge]

I hope you will find what you looking for here

[patent adder]

Welcome friend. And welcome to the community ☺️

[brittle delta]

Welcome~! hope you'll enjoy it here

[patent dust]

yeah can i get a uhhhhhhhh air bison?

[patent adder]

Yip yip

[tranquil prairie]

welcome in!! hope you enjoy your time here!

[sand barn]

You get a sammich, you get a sammich. Errbody gets a sammich!

[pine quartz]

thanks all ❤️ does anyone know if palia will be out maybe released this year?

[bright forge]

When do you become a Princess?

[patent dust]

the closest we have to a full release date is 'less than 3 years'

[brittle delta]

turtleducks and turtle seals tho..

[patent dust]

yesterday :P

[brittle delta]

or snow leopard caribou

[tiny talon]

Hopefully there's an open beta sooner than that :)

[tranquil prairie]

turtleducks my beloved <3

[pine quartz]

oh wow lmao less than 3 so that's basically a potential for a very long time

[sand barn]

They're so adorable!!

[patent dust]

im not sure what phases theyre going to do, but my best guess is pre-alpha, alpha, beta, full release

[brittle delta]

i would love to see something like this in game https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Snow_leopard_caribou

[patent dust]

depends really on what goes on in those testing phases

[sand barn]

Because they are, as they call themselves "old school"

[tawdry rampart]

Release? Nah! Just need more alpha waves!

[tiny talon]

I wonder if it will be closed beta or open beta

[quiet flax]

r

[pine quartz]

yeah like most mmo's smooth it out first sort the bugs etc then release when it's 100%

[mint steppe]

The testers will definitely help speed up the process !

[sand barn]

What comes after alpha? Alpha Alpha

[tiny otter]

maybe in the winter season!

[bright forge]

Pre-alpha should hit until end of this month

[bright forge]

Both I think

[undone rover]

My favorite color is when you rub your eyes to hard

[patent dust]

200 pre-alpha invites have been sent out of 1400, more invites in the coming weeks. im not sure exactly when us testers will actually play though

[tiny talon]

That would be good, I hope so

[lusty willow]

👀

[surreal crest]

yeah I got this on camera

[patent adder]

Hello, today is alpha wave 762.. Sorry, 763. We are inviting another 200 people in for a total of 152600 people!

[patent dust]

just like almost any other mmo, they plan to continue working on the game after full release

[neat shadow]

Either way, it will be a party!

[patent dust]

1 invite per wave lol

[patent adder]

👀 Oh no

[snow pike]

How is the pre-alpha going?

[patent dust]

we havnt played yet :P

[restive glen]

we are on the edge of our seats

[snow pike]

Wait y not?

[patent dust]

only invites have been sent so far

[patent adder]

Yep. 200/1400 invited so far. We have yet to start playing ☺️

[patent dust]

theres things i wanna say but

[tranquil prairie]

[bright forge]

[mint steppe]

Cry

[patent dust]

now i know what the devs felt like in the first few days haha

[deft sonnet]

palia pog

[patent adder]

No cry, pls. Only happy.

[patent dust]

what if happy cry?

[patent adder]

That is acceptable then ☺️

[rotund glacier]

Will the invite be sent only to North Americans?

[abstract tusk]

Probably due to the holiday.

[tranquil prairie]

what holiday?

[rotund glacier]

Ou South should receive it too?

[patent dust]

dont know how selections are done specifically

[abstract tusk]

July 4th

[tiny talon]

4th of July

[bright forge]

Do you guys think that being EU makes you unable to be a tester? It's just crazy theory but I have not met someone from EU that I know that got a tester role.

[carmine harbor]

beep boop

[patent dust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[snow pike]

Good question, I wouls think it wouldn’t matter, but not sure

[tranquil prairie]

oh right-

[rotund glacier]

I guess they will focus first on waving to North Americans, due to ping and Etc

[small hinge]

California studio, doing their first pre alpha server stress test, I imagine its easiest with locals

[rotund glacier]

But it would be awesome if they release to other Regions soon

[small hinge]

(im in oregon please love me devs)

[bright forge]

I mean If the want only some continents in pre-alpha it's cool with me I just hope they would state it somewhere.

[patent dust]

they may be starting with NA but other waves could bring in others, i honestly have no idea

[brittle delta]

i think theres oceania peeps as well that got invited tho so idk

[rotund glacier]

I Hope they bring other regions to the table

[small hinge]

would make sense the 200 wave just to see if server can support, then boom 1200 from all over flood in

[patent dust]

idk who all has been chosen so far so idek if theyre all NA or anything

[patent adder]

This is what I would guess. But really, we have no more idea than anyone else

[patent dust]

exactly, were just as clueless lol

[brittle delta]

maybe we'll find out the 8th

[warm plover]

omg i have a chance?

[rotund glacier]

Yep

Hope they state ir somewhere, would be good and should align some perspectives

[small hinge]

Conspiracy theorist me would for some reason doubt everything someone under NDA says lol

[brittle delta]

i may just be dumb and mixing things up, i am not known for my good memory

[warm plover]

fair my memory sucks too

[pearl ore]

Would make sense to test their net code across the US with a small number before opening up to more regions and more players

[patent dust]

never trust anyone, not even yourself

[vapid oxide]

gotta look for NDA leaks as well, why open up 10k people when 200 might start spreading info they dont want public

[bright forge]

right

[brittle delta]

that's got nothing to do with regions tho

[patent dust]

this is a good point, i never thought of this

[rotund glacier]

The servers are open already for Pre Alpha?

[keen basin]

It's a lot easier to moderate NDAs in your own country though

[restive glen]

im really hoping no one leaks anything 😦

[patent dust]

we have no idea if the servers are open, we havnt started playing yet thoguh

i mean i guess they would be? seeing as the devs have been playing?

[tranquil prairie]

yeah that would be awful for the devs-

[bright forge]

It's easier to get to someone in America than in Poland for breaking NDA.

[patent dust]

if someone leaks something, they lose their kneecap privilages /j

[brittle delta]

they probably have an internal server where they can run different patches, tho i imagine they have a external server setup

[mint steppe]

bye kneecaps

[warm plover]

goodbye kneecaps

[surreal crest]

depends

[brittle delta]

kneecaps? nocaps

[bright forge]

Trust me

[versed ice]

No, no this is very much true.

[tranquil prairie]

that phrasing is scary

[surreal crest]

I know stories :P

[warm plover]

they're kneecaps not needcaps. unnecessary

[tranquil prairie]

precisely

[vapid oxide]

original wow alpha I had to send a copy of my drivers license to them before I was allowed to play lol

[patent dust]

o.O

[patent adder]

👀

[tranquil prairie]

wow-

[patent dust]

i guess it was done that way cause it wasnt as easy back then to identify someone in the case of a NDA break

or maybe thats still blizzard policy, dont know haha

[brittle delta]

some companies pursue NDA punishments harder than others, some just go for an account ban + blacklist, others go for a lawsuit

[bright forge]

Panda I have a question If its just answer but do they verify you age and identity when you sing up NDA?

[bitter marten]

I think most people who break NDAs don't understand exactly what they risk.

[patent dust]

[bright forge]

ok

[small hinge]

well said

[warm plover]

btw has anyone noticed that the sprites on palia.com and the sprites on the character introductions are different? zeki's sprite is way different

[patent dust]

tbh im not sure what we can and cant say about it, so im going on the side of caution haha

[bitter marten]

^do that

[warm plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850062378926473227/854397034877157436/Zeki-Meet-the-Villager-Twitter.jpg?width=1197&height=599
https://palia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Media-Carousel01-1024x576.jpg

[patent dust]

cat man supreme

[warm plover]

cat man changed.....

[small hinge]

Always better safe than sorry to protect you and the studio

[bitter marten]

As soon as you sign most normal NDAs you basically said "if I step over this line you can end my entire financial life" probably don't toe that line. Buffers are good.

[warm plover]

jel looks the same
there might be some changed details but im not gonna look for them
tamala also looks the same

[cyan sigil]

uwu

[bright forge]

If you are not 100% sure It will not get you in trouble pls don't answer I value your friendship more than my curiosity.

[patent dust]

in what way? :o

zeki looks pretty much the same to me

[warm plover]

what do you mean? the pose and style are way different

[brittle delta]

yeah but the design hasnt really changed, part of his body even looks like the same art in a different stage or a paintover

[warm plover]

i know but i just think its weird for them to have two 'finished' sprites

unless the one on palia.com was a placeholder sprite
which would be kinda weird

[patent dust]

i think its mostly just a different artist? but they really just turned his head and i think they removed his gold teeth (or maybe the artist forgot them :x)

[brittle delta]

not weird at all during concepting of major characters

[bitter marten]

Actually that's common. Many characters get finished like 15 times. Artists work their butts off to make things perfect, so remember to show appreciation on that.

[patent dust]

but ye this early, small things like that will change

[bright forge]

I mean we saw 3 Eshe versions on stream

[warm plover]

oh i know they get redone a lot
i would just expect them to have picked a 'final' version to put on their main website

[brittle delta]

the one on the website looks like a final version to me 🤔

[bitter marten]

They did. Problem is later on that final version got refinaled lol. Super normal during development

[warm plover]

huh

[bitter marten]

Even when it's "done" it can be in progress again at any stage before release.

[woven estuary]

yeah, 1.0 doesnt have to be the final version

[patent dust]

the thing about artist works is pretty much nothing is ever done

[woven estuary]

they almost always have to do post release patches and things like that

[dusk tapir]

Hallo 🙂

[patent dust]

you can call it complete, but an artist will always go back and be like "maybe i should change this, or this"

[brittle delta]

heya~

[warm plover]

[patent dust]

hallo o/

[bitter marten]

Artists often end up designing characters that were finalized ages ago. Just because it looked too similar to a new character, or a change in the story happened so they don't match as perfectly to the image now. Artists work in circles a lot. Not to say it's pointless, always a reason, but definitely still exhausting.

[dusk tapir]

How are people finding the closed alpha? 🙂

[vapid oxide]

pandarians exist in warcraft lore because of a little doodle an artist put on one of illidans blades

[patent adder]

Hey friend ☺️

[patent dust]

pre-alpha, not beta :P and we havnt played yet

[bright forge]

If you mean pre-alpha It's not out yet

[dusk tapir]

Gotcha!

[warm plover]

o milky woke up

[stoic basalt]

hi

[patent adder]

👏 👏

[patent dust]

your pfp gives me nightmares lmao

[stoic basalt]

haha

[patent adder]

Hey there 😄

[bitter marten]

I don't have literally any info yet. Which is why I'm here. To be careful I probably won't say anything beyond "hi" later. Sucks cuz I enjoy the theory crafting, but if I "hope" a feature is there, it can be taken as confirmation it's not in yet. So no more theories or hope convos once I get any info x.x

[patent adder]

Have you seen the FAQ? 😄

[patent dust]

id hope so since theyre a tester :P

[rotund glacier]

good point

[patent adder]

OH. I think I completely misread everything 👀 I am still waking up

[tiny talon]

If you get chosen as a tester you will get a tester role and access to extra tester channels here in discord

[dusty cargo]

🖖

[dusk tapir]

Yeah I know ^_^

[tranquil prairie]

think they if they like it!

[chilly crater]

Evening everyone

[patent adder]

Hey there ❤️

[chilly crater]

How's the testing and toasting going

[dusty cargo]

How are yall lovelies doing today? 🥰

[patent dust]

testing hasnt started yet

[raw quarry]

Good evening my Lord

[gray knoll]

I'm at work, sadly

[bright forge]

I'm great. How are you?

[brittle delta]

Doing alright how's you

[chilly crater]

Just toasting then!

[patent dust]

kalan burned my toast :c

[vapid oxide]

lol watch the NDA first line says "whenever someone asks just say testing hastn't started yet"

[vagrant anvil]

Emailed a company, they called me back, now I have an interview on Wednesday @dusty cargo

[chilly crater]

Skål!

[dusty cargo]

Doing good thanks!!

[chilly crater]

So just hanging then..?

[woven estuary]

Pog

[dusty cargo]

Yoooo congrats and good luck!!!

[vagrant anvil]

very pog

[brittle delta]

and we'd never know

[patent adder]

Jojo is onto us 👀

[brisk ivy]

Yeah, might be better to link Nele saying that testing hasn't started yet. It's what I do!

[patent dust]

waiting sucks so much T.T

[foggy ingot]

pog pog pog

[chilly crater]

What if the pre alpha test was actually the friends we made along the way

[patent adder]

TBH yes

[bright forge]

I sucks even more without a key trust me

[vagrant anvil]

Tomorrow I buy a suit

[brittle delta]

i love the friends in here

[patent adder]

Me too ☺️

[bright forge]

I love you too

[tranquil prairie]

friends

[foggy ingot]

you should go in with slippers, pink shorts and a white shirt

[regal swallow]

Yes all the Pals in here are wholesome.

[chilly crater]

I think deep down, we're all pre-alpha testers here.

[vale spire]

It's been a pretty good experience, making friends and being part of the community

[brisk ivy]

You're all testing! Your patience! Yay! Testing!

[bitter marten]

Just now found out I pushed forward to the other role, so when you said that no lol

[patent dust]

alright palians, im off to play the sims o/ have fun and be good to each other

[vale spire]

See you!

[vagrant anvil]

I did the video call in a hawaiian shirt, I asked friends what I should wear to the interview and they said "If it's remote work go dressed as what you'd wear normally". I don't think it's appropriate to go naked

[raw quarry]

Yeah you return from outside where nukes are going off, and possibly aliens are invading, and you hop on here and it's like ''Ahhh... peace... civility...''

[dusty cargo]

Have fun!!

[chilly crater]

Patronizing works on me thankfully

[brittle delta]

Enjoy, and cya later

[patent adder]

L8r Panda ☺️

[dusty cargo]

Yeah work attire for me these days is pyjamas 😂

[foggy ingot]

working naked do be a vibe

[tawdry marsh]

I may be a lurker on this, but I must be on here twice perhaps three times a day just to see what's happening.

[tranquil prairie]

hope you have fun!!

[vagrant anvil]

Apparently hawaiian shirts are not business casual, not even in hawaii

[sturdy shell]

Hopefully they pcuh out an announcement for the next round of testing soon

[lusty willow]

💯

[patent adder]

I hope so too!

[vale spire]

Honestly it's the people here that make the wait for everything much more bearable!

[vagrant anvil]

However in hawaii I think they're just considered shirts, so who knows

[vagrant anvil]

If it's any consolation I can make it unbearable?

[warm plover]

milkyyyyyy

[tranquil prairie]

that’s valid, i’ve mostly been a lurker and started talking recently!

[dusty cargo]

@tawdry marsh join us more 😁

[deft sonnet]

PALIA BOYS

[bright forge]

[vale spire]

I mean, you can try, but my patience is already pretty up there

[patent adder]

Yeah Rin? ☺️

[tawdry marsh]

@dusty cargo now that I am off work I might just do that😂😂😂

[warm plover]

i donnt wanna sleep

[sturdy pewter]

honk- I mean, quack

[brittle delta]

sounds like it's time for u to sleep again

[dusty cargo]

Woo!! Honestly I mostly stick around here on discord avoiding all the work I need to do 😂

[warm plover]

its 5 ammmmm

[patent adder]

Cat needs sleep 🥺

[brittle delta]

[dusty cargo]

5am is definitely a sleep time

[stone sierra]

Ok, its time to wake up now. No sleep for today.

[warm plover]

aaaa

[tawdry marsh]

Most of my work is monitored tho. And no mobile phones allowed

[atomic barn]

5 am, nah.. mmhm. Nah. Sleep fam

[deft sonnet]

yikess

[tawdry marsh]

Well it's not sleep time for me... It's only 22:00 here.

[shrewd bronze]

Haha, damn - way to hit me right where it hurts

[atomic barn]

23 o clock here, and Im dead tired lol

[tiny talon]

5 am is when I have to wake up for work lol

[viscid aurora]

Sandwiches

[stone sierra]

11PM here, so time to slep

[dim widget]

Friendship ingenuity creative zabra dance zebra dance

[shrewd bronze]

Yup, same here

[dusty cargo]

It's 10pm for me too. Early mornings are not for me, yall are brave getting up at 5am

[shrewd bronze]

I mean, I have to if I want to get to work on time

[tawdry marsh]

Sometimes when you have a kid you don't really have a choice on the time you wake up.

[brittle delta]

im doing best of both worlds, some days of the week i go to bed at 10 am, others i wake up at 10 am

[shrewd bronze]

My job is quite the distance on public transport tbh

[stone sierra]

Did more tan a year on 6am-2pm shift. Its fun, you sleep go to work and wake up at 8 with only 6 more hours to go

[sturdy shell]

Facts 100%

[dim widget]

I'd rather die vs waking up before 9

[raw quarry]

pm?

[surreal crest]

you gonna have reality check

[dim widget]

Am

Lul what. Reality check? I've been working my entire life and never once had a schedule that started earlier than 9

[foggy ingot]

damn you're lucky

[bright forge]

Good for you

[shrewd bronze]

Same lol, but here I am doing it anyway

[surreal crest]

lucky lol

[viscid aurora]

lucky

[brittle delta]

that is far outside the norm

[dim widget]

Not when you work IT, or things related to retail.

[stone sierra]

Worst sfift that can happen to me is the night shift. I would die then

[onyx python]

hi everyone

[dim widget]

Anyway. When are they adding bees and frogs

[stone sierra]

I hope soon

[tawdry marsh]

I love night shift.

[remote latch]

most jobs here ( UK ) are usually 9 to 5 .. my programming job was 9 to 5 .. my transport office job was 10 to 7+ with an hour bus or 30 min train and 30 min walk journey

[stone sierra]

Need honey on my bread when i go fishing

[surreal crest]

I work 12 hours a day lol

[shrewd bronze]

Idk, but I'll bee very excited when they do 🐝

[remote latch]

thankfully though .. even if Palia had jobs .. with a 1 hour day .. the work day will be a breeze 🙂

[brittle delta]

so you'd be on a schedule starting earlier than 9 lmao

[dim widget]

Christopher the frog

[remote latch]

yep .. for the transport .. the programming one was easier as my brother had a car and I got him a job there at 16 rofl .. 15 min car ride compared to 40 min bus ride

[raw quarry]

You'd have to learn to speedrun the buy menu

[dusty cargo]

If you guys were an npc what would your profession/interests be?

[deft sonnet]

musician/fisher

[brittle delta]

daydreamer

[remote latch]

still farming 🙂

[regal swallow]

Bug hunting and Alligator wrestling

[tawdry marsh]

So an off topic question, what's everyone playing now to take you mind off of palia?

[patent adder]

Intense 👀

[violet notch]

Hidden alchemist vendor

[neat shadow]

I’d love to be a hunter.

[regal swallow]

Also flower picking

[patent adder]

Palia discord ☺️

[dusty cargo]

These are some strong choices

[edgy monolith]

gardening and wood cutting

[raw quarry]

Nothing, my 1440p monitor comes tomorrow so I've been playing nothing until it comes lol

[stone sierra]

👆

[remote latch]

nothing .. I don't play games much .. if I do .. its been Planet Zoo since it came out .. but most days I don't play at all

[small hinge]

#off-topic intensifies

[dusty cargo]

I think id want to be a mystical elf npc that collects mushrooms and talks to frogs all day

[neat shadow]

Rimworld ♥️

[patent adder]

👀 🐢

[edgy monolith]

are you talking to frogs because the mushrooms got you high

[tawdry marsh]

A friend of mine bought me a copy of satisfactory so been messing around with that.

[remote latch]

rofl

[brittle delta]

important question

[dusty cargo]

😂

[dim widget]

Playing the M rated animal crossing clone I've been working on :)

[deft sonnet]

RIBBIT

[stone sierra]

Moonlighter

[edgy monolith]

got screenshots?

[deft sonnet]

you just wanna kiss all the frogs and hope there are princes no?

[shrewd bronze]

My friends and I are all playing Empyrion: Galactic Survival atm

[tawdry marsh]

I loved that game. I sunk about 150 hours into that lol.

[dusty cargo]

I will give all frogs cuddles til they love me

[dim widget]

I'm unfortunately not disclosing anything until it's an open beta.

[patent adder]

Awwh 🥺

[brisk ivy]

GW2 has a new round of achievements in 18 hours for getting a legendary amulet!

Speaking of achievements, I hope they have them in Palia.

[thorny dune]

First time I've seen achievements mentioned 👀

[warm plover]

I've been playing Final Fantasy X and My Time at Portia

[foggy ingot]

"collect 1 000 000 pebbles"

[tidal scroll]

goodness gracious

[loud axle]

Achievements were mentioned somewhere in the FAQ 👀

[remote latch]

flexes fingers .. time to browse the faq .. I'm sure achievements were mentioned

[brittle delta]

"give 1 000 000 pebbles to einar"

[shrewd bronze]

Pebble reacts only

[small hinge]

"Achievements? Systems like these will exist, yes. With consideration for people being able to enjoy the game for it's own sake and not feel obligated to play the game in a way they don't enjoy."

[thorny dune]

Haven't checked the FAQ in a month or so 🙂

[vagrant wagon]

rasputin

[warm plover]

Fun achievements not to cut 5000 trees? Cut down 5000 Trees, in an interesting way

[thorny dune]

I could have just forgotten 🤔

[remote latch]

I have it open most days so I can attempt to bring chat back to Palia .. sometimes it works rofl

[thorny dune]

But there hasn't been a large discussion here on them, at least while I've been monitoring chat

[raw quarry]

I like ''Explorer - Discover all areas/fully unlock map''

[remote latch]

nope there hasn't been when I've been here either

[thorny dune]

So how do you guys feel about Achievement rewards?
Something cosmetic to show off you did something hard or cool?

[patent adder]

👀 🍞

[brittle delta]

love it, be able to show you put the effort / time in

[small hinge]

guessing the scope of achievements really requires a understanding of the game play and progression, without that, discussing it just feels silly

[brisk ivy]

Achievements are a nice way to reward people through their efforts. Sometimes also for doing silly things!

[small hinge]

I hope for cosmetic unlocks tho through achivements

[brittle delta]

i'm not a big fan of hidden achievements though, especially since they often wont stay hidden for long due to the internet

[tawdry marsh]

I don't mind achievements in general, I just don't like the ultra grind 200 hour on a single task kind.

[warm plover]

oh nel was on earlier
she popped back into existence

[remote latch]

maybe something like a small buff for a likewise area. Not enough to make people feel they have to .. but a nod to those that did. Or, a title. It won't give them a game benefit though. And I suppose some people will like cosmetic stuff.

[brisk ivy]

I've seen achievements in games for doing emotes at characters or misfortune, such as dying to something you shouldn't.

[stone sierra]

Titles, a lot of titles

[warm plover]

i wonder if she'd approve of my Cool Doc™️
whatever im sleepy... i wanna sing though...

[brittle delta]

that's just fun, or really mundane challenges like "shoot a barrel from x distance away" or something like that.. y'know, just for fun

[raw quarry]

I corroborate titles

[thorny dune]

What about cosmetics related to the achievement? Special things to put around the home or garden?
I do like titles though 🙂

[tawdry marsh]

Yeah I like that a title. Like selling 100,000 carrots lets you become the carrot king .

[remote latch]

Loremaster for collecting ALL of the lore books

[stone sierra]

I like that too, never played AC but i would love to display collections of rare stuff (mostly fish) i found in the world

[warm plover]

ah the eternal game of "are they talking about animal crossing or assassins creed"

sometimes i cant tell

[remote latch]

And then when they add more lore books ( expansion 2 ) then there is a new Loremaster 2 for those books .. with a True Loremaster for when you achieve every Loremaster, losing the title when a new Loremaster one comes out

[stone sierra]

The one with DOOM crossover

[brittle delta]

they're talking about air conditioning

[deft sonnet]

Lesgo palians

[gray knoll]

I really love them! Ff14 has glowy crafters and gather tools every expansion for achievement stuff

[craggy niche]

Hi people in the night

[stone sierra]

Gotta go and slep, C'ya pals! o/

[shrewd bronze]

Idk, I think rewards for achievements could be an issue tbh with a game like Palia. With some people working hard to get more cosmetics, while some casual players never get the chance to get that sort of thing, I think rewards for achievements could create a problem. It kinda disincentivises the casual nature of the game, making it more competitive as people try to get new cosmetics through achievements. Achievements are fine, but there's no need for achievement rewards imo

[craggy niche]

Was long time since I was here, i think 6 hours more and less

[raw quarry]

Night

[deft sonnet]

Hi

[patent adder]

I am a goat of the night 👀

[shrewd bronze]

Also, damn that was long lol

[deft sonnet]

I am DudeSame

[craggy niche]

Yeah 😔

[raw quarry]

Waves lump of rock salt in front of you

[keen basin]

Do you have wings?

[craggy niche]

Then hi to living beings of the night

[patent adder]

😳 hey there

[gray knoll]

That's why you make them purely cosmetic, so it's a nice reward for those that want to work for them.

[kindred rose]

[remote latch]

the've not mentioned a reward system for them and they said they will be something you won't feel you have to do .. so if there is a reward, its one they feel won't be something you have to have

[vale lynx]

But in real life, we work for money to buy stuff. The more we work, the more we achieve nicer stuff. I just don't want the Pay to Play thing happening.

[shrewd bronze]

Well, that's reassuring

[craggy niche]

To be fair, I think that Palia is a videogame

[shrewd bronze]

Thanks

[patent adder]

I wish.

[craggy niche]

Change my mind

[keen basin]

I'll be your wings

[remote latch]

Its a game ? I thought it was a way of life ? )

[craggy niche]

Yeah, it is a game, I have checked all what has been out so far and I can surely tell you all: Palia will be a videogame to be played by computer

[remote latch]

computers can play games ?

[shrewd bronze]

Oh my, a truly shocking revelation!

[craggy niche]

Yes, actually you dont play a game, is the computer, you are just a witness

[remote latch]

🤣

[craggy niche]

Yep

[shrewd bronze]

This truly is a plot twist that even Agatha Christie could not have devised

[brisk ivy]

What GW2 does for new cosmetic rewards is they give us a new cosmetic within an achievement every story update that is easy to achieve, to get us to replay that content. It's pretty casual.

They also have long-term goals that aren't something you really grind for. You just sort've do achievements until you get something special.

I think Palia could consider throwing a thing or two into an achievement system. I suppose it's more of an issue of what players would need to do.

[keen basin]

In Palia, game play you

[remote latch]

what about Sheerluck Holmes .. or his older brother Sherlock ?

[loud axle]

What about Mycroft / Yourcroft?

[craggy niche]

No, this would be the case of league of legends, where the game, through a computer, plays with the player

[shrewd bronze]

What about Poirot?

[remote latch]

them to .. and .. their sister whose name escapes me

[brittle delta]

herlock

[remote latch]

and we must remember Inspector .. I mean Penny Gadget

[shrewd bronze]

If you're talking Sherlock the show, is it Eurus?

There's also Enola, from that new show

[remote latch]

Enola thats it

[craggy niche]

Well guys hopefully I did help to make you understand a bit more of Palia and everything, gonna go rest a bit, gn

[brittle delta]

Good night~!

[shrewd bronze]

Does anyone know whether Enola Holmes is good actually? I've been meaning to watch it at some point, but idk.

[remote latch]

Oh she is good .. I've watched it

[shrewd bronze]

Also, goodnight!

[shut marten]

Yes it's good

[remote latch]

OKay .. Palia topic starter search .....

[deft sonnet]

Hmmm

[shut marten]

Palia animals

[small hinge]

Is Einars hat a unlockable cosmetic

[remote latch]

good question .. maybe we do a quest for him .. and we get an Einar hat

[warm plover]

i wanna see official art of Kitsuu

[shrewd bronze]

I hope you can buy it with pebbles

[warm plover]

[small hinge]

Be cool if you gain like. max favor with him, he gives you his hat, and only you see that he doesnt have his hat anymore in game

[patent adder]

Rin 👀

[warm plover]

notable facts

• they have antlers
• im pretty sure theyre, like, deer-foxes or something
• their names are almost certainly pulled from the japanese word for fox (kitsune)

[remote latch]

ah, I thought the kitsuu were the deer we have seen

[deft sonnet]

I hope there will be stuff that is super hard to get

[small hinge]

Very deer like more than anything else, i like the different stripe variety

[deft sonnet]

Like furnature or clothes that is almost imposible to get but super cool/rewarding if you do get it

[foggy ingot]

I think those are ears

[brittle delta]

rgb clothes for the real gamers

[small hinge]

they at least said "All of our gathering skills will have rare stuff" so you can probably craft some super rare stuf

[warm plover]

oh yeah those are ears i dont have eyes

[deft sonnet]

Were will you guys be focusing on when the game releases?Me personly on the story

[brittle delta]

they do have antlers though

[tiny talon]

If there's a big map I wanna explore it

[brisk ivy]

Talking about the jackalope?

[brittle delta]

the kitsuu

[small hinge]

Also someone asked about the deer creatures and why there are different colors and the only response is 🤩 . Which I feel is hinting at Valhiem type more star/rarity spawns of things to hunt

[deft sonnet]

Hmm. Could be

[lunar tundra]

I'll be trying to aquire all the cosmetics

[deep jacinth]

Question and this might have been said: How far apart are each wave of testing?

[deft sonnet]

All of them i feel like that will be alot

[small hinge]

They said a couple weeks Clever

[deep jacinth]

Thanks!

[brisk ivy]

If we can have kitsuu pets, I'm going to name mine Jack.

[lunar tundra]

Then I will have plenty of stuff to do lol

[brave thorn]

They said to hope to get more people into pre-alpha "within a few weeks" but no specific time frame is given.

[small hinge]

But, the initial 200 have supposedly not started yet, so who knows then that timer starts

[deft sonnet]

Trueee

[warm plover]

they said "in the coming weeks" so dont expect an exact time

[brittle delta]

good name

[brisk ivy]

I'll give Jack cantaloupe, if that is in the game.

[half hull]

i think it be good to see what the player housing would be like

[brisk ivy]

For player housing, I hope our pets can be found running around in it, if we have pets.