💬│palia-discussions

[granite pagoda]

Yep, nothing to panic about until Nelly decides to post an announcement

[wind jungle]

Too much panic here, I am stepping away

[jagged bluff]

She has lots of sign ups to go through! Give her time 😄

[faint dawn]

Okay panic if nele comes online..

[little silo]

[ #📢│palia-news pings 1 new message ]

AAAAAH

[brittle lance]

~1400 people manually selected xD

[little silo]

I have strong doubts I get selected

So I won't be terribly disappointed either way

[lusty tendon]

Roadmaps imply commitments. It's smart of them not to provide one. Remember, they're not even in "pre-alpha" yet, many games aren't even announced at this point in time. The devs are being far more open with the player base than most games, but they have to manage expectations. This is the smart way to do it. If you're in for pre-alpha/alpha testing your expectations should be really low. We're here for them, not the other way around.

This may be a bit counterintuitive to the "early access" model that's been popular, but these devs are old school and imo that's a breath of fresh air. Early access is a death trap.

[little silo]

If they are hand picking, they're gonna take one look at my comment history and declare me a heretic

[cinder comet]

I was gonna say, they asked for our Discord names this time.

[little silo]

I RP differently... that is all.

[static mango]

maybe we get an edge 😏

[jagged bluff]

Theyll probably have locked discord text/voice channels

[cinder comet]

Definitely

[faint dawn]

The only roadmaps we got are...
Hopeful console
Hopeful house share.

[coarse portal]

you can invite your friends right?

just open house stuff isnt certain

[brittle lance]

Meh... that's just foir keeping shitposting down xD

[wintry atlas]

Oh i absolutely agree that you do not want to get drawn into any commitments. That said - any business project has a roadmap that you sell to your investors & release to your company to keep everyone in the loop.

I do not expect anything to that nth degree - why would you release something like this to unpaid game testers.

That all said - there is going to be a lot of disappointment in the next week / coming weeks; i think it would be prudent to keep excitement certainly controlled but alive.

We have the submit-your-question segment, but there is a possibility that this also underdelivers in what potential players are looking for.

[tranquil cosmos]

Happy Monday, friends. Here's to hoping we get good news this week

[desert umbra]

Don't write yourselves out of invitations yet folks, they need critical responses and feedback. that means a diverse group that can show them the game experience from different angles.

unless of course your are totally into PVP

[faint dawn]

The thing is.. palia is already backed.. they dont need to provide a roadmap to us... but to someone else then..

[static mango]

yo

[coarse portal]

PvE is where its at

[wind jungle]

Agreed

[granite pagoda]

Player vs Eagle

[little silo]

I'm here with a small community of other experienced testers... maybe one of us gets selected

[granite pagoda]

Eagle always wins

[brittle lance]

Sadly. The hype-train is a free ride, so it's a virtue to hold back on the excitement for many, I think

[wintry atlas]

Sorry if i misunderstood - my point is that v. vague roadmap should already exist if they are backed - that's how they got it backed.

[coarse portal]

oh they have an internal roadmap for sure

[lusty tendon]

Frankly, anyone with higher expectations than what's been offered did it to themselves. Hype is the fault of the players not the devs. The road map you mention definitely exists, just like you said for investors. Giving it to testers, let alone the general public, which is ulsnt be wise.

[granite pagoda]

I'm sure internally they have things like roadmaps and ideas laid out, but like to general public I haven't seen anything of the sort.

[faint dawn]

^

[wintry atlas]

Absolutely - i think there is room in the middle whereby you don't go complete silence and allow your audience to create an image of the game that does not exist either. Not suggeting they've done this yet btw - this is v. early still.

[little silo]

Any time you have a large enough community of players, you will find PvP slipping in there in some form... even if its not outright combat.

[lusty tendon]

It worked out alright for Elden Ring :P

[brittle lance]

Ofc. they have. What kind of people would invest in something that has no structural plans for the future. That don't make sence.

[high wren]

Anyone get some random named "Joshuagaisano" whispering them telling you that you scammed him?

[little silo]

People by their very nature are hyper competitive. They will make pvp out of home decoration or W/E

[rancid gate]

It's a good idea for devs to not say much because it can be taken as a promise. Broken promises send fans out for blood. (not all but enough)

[cinder comet]

If they're in this server you should likely report them to a Mod

[brittle lance]

Ignore it. I got that a few days ago on another Discord Server.
Block / report

[lilac portal]

When I first start playing video games I thought PvE was People vs Everything.

[rancid gate]

As for PvP making it's way in, they have said there won't be any head to head PvP but there might be competitions.

[high wren]

yeah ignored and blocked

[faint dawn]

Everyone was already overhyping palia.. "WoW killer" pfft.. whoever said that... oof..

[desert umbra]

true, i suggested "hide and seek" as one PVP option earlier

[uneven nova]

competitions could be fun, like glide racing down a mountain or something

[brittle lance]

I don't get how it can be a "WoW or anything else" killer, when they don't even compare.

[rancid gate]

Palia won't be a wow killer...it has a different audience. It's a very different game.

It would be like saying that apple juice is totally going to make orange juice obsolete.

[little silo]

Yup. Anything with a score or definitive metric will by competitive

Don't think the devs ever promised a WoW killer

[faint dawn]

Someone out there used the term.. not me..

[wintry atlas]

Yeah this is absolutely a bad take. I don't think any company i've seen has ever got the PR right, so i agree with you & Laharre that silence is probably safer; just in the same breath, plenty of other examples in life which prove you don't need to be completely silent.

Let's just avoid Destiny's - 'you can go to that mountain over there' E3 stuff 😉

[little silo]

Besides, FF is doing that on its own already

[brittle lance]

And those people don't know what then talk about. They just like fancy words they heard from Youtubers and streamers

[little silo]

By mostly emulating what WoW was back in WotLK

[warm plover]

Palia killing anything seems out of shape for it

[novel plank]

FFXIV might be the first MMO I’ve actually legitimately understood without getting confused

[lilac portal]

I would like a fishing competition. Call me Nat Pagle

[little silo]

Maybe killing my spare time on a weekend...

[brittle lance]

Heeey you are in my garison!!! 😄

[rancid gate]

Palia is opening a new online niche game. There have been a few attempts, but none of them were really quite as well thought out.

[novel plank]

anyways good morning palians:)

[brittle lance]

Brilliant shimmerflies!

[whole shoal]

Pre-alpha keys started being given out?

[desert umbra]

Maybe they can insert a character modeled after the great Bob Ross, to teach us painting in-game

[little silo]

I've not been to my garrison in so long, they have long since dispersed into the native population like an early American colony.

[novel plank]

No they’ll make an announcement im sure

[brittle lance]

Is that a question or a statement?

[desert umbra]

yes, it is a question or a statemtent.

[whole shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hehe-gif-4402418

[celest maple]

Most likely a question

[little silo]

All these witches making me twitchy...

[rancid gate]

A plea, really

[brittle lance]

Ahh... there was added a "?" xD

[novel plank]

Wow ok ;(

[void imp]

i'm so excited, one thing i'm thinking about is how unique we'll be able to make our characters look facially. i hope we can play with proportions and distances between facial features.

[mossy hull]

They said they're not doing genders, but features

[novel plank]

Character customization is one of my favorite features of my favorite games

[little silo]

(Hehe "t-witchy")

[rancid gate]

I like having more witches they make things magical. 🙂

[brittle lance]

Well... I do't know about this one. Because if it is going to be low-polly, then that means less detail, right?

[celest maple]

Sameeee, waiting patiently 😁😁

[celest maple]

Cyberpunk is going too far tho ngl 😂

[brittle lance]

Pfff... you can never go too far with Character customization!

[mossy hull]

apparently... you can..

[rancid gate]

Low poly isn't really a thing much anymore. Palia has stylized art.

[void imp]

but at the same time cyberpunk felt weirdly limited compared to other character menus

[brittle lance]

I know nothing 😄

[little silo]

Gimme Darksouls sliders and selectors, gud-nuff

[rancid gate]

Now they use quads (in blender) or other 2 dimensional geometry to refer to the resolution. And Palia's art could have a ton of them and still look like it does 🙂

[rancid gate]

Hehe is no worries, tech changes fast. 🙂

I expect there will be a lot of customization..just because tech allows for it now, but not right at pre alpha.

[wooden widget]

whenever I heard about lemons juice, i couldnt turn back to apple or orange

[wintry atlas]

How did none of us ask them if they intend the game to be 1st person / 3rd person - nothing in the unofficial faq!

[celest maple]

Thinking it is 3rd person

[rancid gate]

@wintry atlas maybe we all figured they'd have both since it's standard?

[celest maple]

Most logical

[wooden widget]

Maybe it could be flexible?

[rancid gate]

A ton of games have both even if people don't use them.

[wooden widget]

since pvp isnt the focus would having flexible camera bring some sorta edge on pve?

[celest maple]

Yeah okay true

Sooo excited 😅😅

[wintry atlas]

That's still an assumption.

[wooden widget]

all we do is assume

[rancid gate]

absolutely. We all make them. And it isn't an unreasonable assumption to make.

[little silo]

Character customization implies 3rd person to me at least... why bother customization if you're never going to see yourself?

[coarse portal]

others will see you?

[wooden widget]

you ask your fellow pal to describe how you look

[little silo]

Pfft, not if I never leave my house

[wooden widget]

and then you exchange courtsy nods

well I assume your housing unit will have windows, someone will be peekin

[rancid gate]

There will likely be mirrors, so you could use those...or see yourself in the character screen.

[little silo]

Oooh they peekin

[wooden widget]

Nomansky promises be like

[novel plank]

🤨

[little silo]

Mirrors are a huuuuge rendering issue. I highly doubt that

[plush delta]

Brains are mean

[wind jungle]

Honestly, these days mirrors are not as much of an issue as they used to be. If you are speaking of from the client side, most games have the ability to disable or limit reflections in their settings.

[wintry atlas]

Cyberpunk is certainly not the greatest example to pull from - but is a good example where what players considered the basics didn't make it into launch.

[plush delta]

Stupid useless meat processor

[rancid gate]

If you have it in an instanced home and only a few-then it's not as bad.

You can also fiddle with the surface values for lighting to lower the costs.

[jagged bluff]

have they said anything regarding if this game will be on steam or just download from their website?

[regal swallow]

Maybe 3rd person with an F5 zoom?

[brittle lance]

My mind is my worst enemy. It constantly creeps back to "You better check if anything has been announced in #📢│palia-news" 😅

[novel plank]

I don’t think they mentioned that yet

[wooden widget]

mute the channels that you are not too interested about, and fold the categories so when ya see a blip on the palia server

[novel plank]

I keep most channels muted except the ones I rly care about… like announcements so if it’s showing up white and glowing I’ll know there’s new info LOL

[wooden widget]

you will easily see important stuff

[azure rock]

or just be like me and be on do not disturb and only get notifications from pings

[little silo]

Yes, but that depends on pre-rendered set pieces. Our homes will be fully customized. Also, I didn't see anything in the trailer to suggest that much resources would be dedicated to complex Raytracing, which is the method used to cast accurate reflections and lighting.

[faint dawn]

Did someone say peeking in windows?

[novel plank]

I don’t even get notifications from pings because I mute all discords completely 💀

[brittle lance]

Didn't knew it worked like that.

[wild niche]

Did someone say windows?

[little silo]

NO!

[wooden widget]

Pebbles away

[little silo]

You will make the IT people cry again

[brittle lance]

BUT WHAT IF YOU MISS IT 😮

[little silo]

(Me, I will cry)

[faint dawn]

stares at people through window

[novel plank]

Oh I won’t this is the one discord server I constantly have open on my second monitor LOL it’s gotten to the point where I’m laying in bed and the trailer music is playing back perfectly in my head on repeat …

[little silo]

Oh good, that kind of window... not capital W, Windows... shudders

[rancid gate]

There are cheats for reflections. You don't need raytracing for it, and reflections absolutely existed before RTX.

Mirrors could exist within homes without too many issues.

Now..will they? No idea.

But it is absolutely possible.

[novel plank]

Why hello duck

[wild niche]

Ah talking about Ray Tracing vs Rasterization eh

They're basically the same but Ray Tracing is more special/load heavy/accurate so specific compute units tailored to that workload are typically implemented to improve performance

[deft sonnet]

Why hello Sarah

[little silo]

Sure, but its a cheat that exponentially increased poly-count per mirror by basically rendering from a second "camera" perspective. Additional mirrors = more cameras and more polygons and it can quickly become a recursive mess that melts CPUs

[spring rivet]

quack!

[wild niche]

For a second I thought the duck in your pfp had two heads, instead of there being two ducks

[novel plank]

knew u were out here lurking thx to your signature reaction

[novel plank]

Hello there

[whole crag]

General kenobi?

[deft sonnet]

Are we guys ready?

[wispy meadow]

Ready for Palia?

[deft sonnet]

Ofc

[whole crag]

Ready for gamin'?

[lone crane]

No.

[wild niche]

I am ready, what I am ready for I do not know

[deft sonnet]

Pi pa palia

[novel plank]

Trailer music is still playing on repeat in my head I’d say I’m more than ready

[wild niche]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-im-ready-running-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4184916

[lone crane]

I'm scared to enter the world of Palia.

[novel plank]

I should probably be a little nervous due to how my social life will definitely dissipate

[whole crag]

Paylaya time

[lone crane]

I'll become like my best friend in middle school , who skipped a week of school to play world of warcraft.

Addicted.

[wispy meadow]

Not exactly, you'll have a new social life inside Palia

[deft sonnet]

Ah i dont have a social life anyway so im good

[little silo]

I've taken paid vacations for WoW, can't blame the guy.

[novel plank]

That is true - hopefully people come to visit me at my little secluded lakeside cottage 🥺

[whole crag]

Lol yes

[lilac portal]

I skipped a week of middle school because that place was the worst.

[little silo]

Hmm
Neighborhood witch, but secluded? Thematically contrary!

[lone crane]

Bruh what is it about wow that sucks people in like this??? I played it and it's not that great

[deft sonnet]

Nah mate if you wanna talk to mee i wil be at the side of the water fishing

[void imp]

you know i will 😤 and i'll bring friends

[novel plank]

honestly I’m known as neighborhood witch because all people in neighborhoods are welcome to my little potion shop and bakery ☺️

[lone crane]

Then again I've been playing mabinogi for 13 years so I've been sucked into my own mmo trap.

[novel plank]

I’m looking forward to it 🥰

[little silo]

But in the golden days... the days before the Cataclysm... it was PERFECT

[rancid gate]

That's why I said there might not be many, and you can still alter the specifics of any surface enough to lower down requirements.

It doesn't have to be a perfect mirror.

Heck you could have a wardrobe "mirror" that just pops you in a customization window that shows your character standing in space.

The question was "how do you see your character if you have only first person".

There are several ways to do it.

[mild forum]

lol ^

[deft sonnet]

Only the people in neighborhoods?

[novel plank]

People everywhere honestly

[lone crane]

Played private servers of the game before cata, it's not magical idk man what did blizzard do to hook people like this 🤨

[little silo]

I get where you are coming from, we will see

Private servers are not the same experience as when those expansions were live, trust me.

[thin condor]

Just got some weird message from someone in this server.

[rancid gate]

Blizzard hooked people because it was easy and accessible with lovely music, art and colour palettes. It was visually and audibly appealing and allowed smooth and rapid growth at the time compared to what else was out there.

[wintry atlas]

Wasn't Josh something was it

[little silo]

Not even "Classic" WoW is the same as vanilla

[lone crane]

AIGHT ILL GIVE YOU SUMMONING A DOOM GUARD TO DEFEAT IT TO TAME WAS PRETTY COOL.

[rancid gate]

It also had a following based on the IP.

[novel plank]

Oh I usually have my messages turned off so people have to friend me to message me

[void imp]

report them to a mod, its been happening a lot today

[thin condor]

Okey dokey.

[deft sonnet]

Just set it on friends only

[novel plank]

And I don’t accept friend requests unless I have actually spoken to the person prior 💀 gotta keep my discord nice n safe

[little silo]

But we are in Palia chat, enough WoW for now

[lone crane]

What you on about? Palia the next wow killer.

[little silo]

Except, No.

[lone crane]

Lmaoooo

[spring rivet]

any sus you see, DM it to any mod online so we can actually check

[novel plank]

Nope don’t think so two different types of audiences

[deft sonnet]

I dont think so cause i think there are peeps that want more combat focused games

[thin condor]

I don't have it on friends only because I'm in other servers and need to communicated, but I will message a mod. Thanks for that suggestion. 🙂

[deft sonnet]

And wow and palia are totaly different

[lone crane]

Bruh people taking me too serious for that joke 😳.

[novel plank]

It was a topic of discussion earlier that’s probably why LOL

[wintry atlas]

Repent!

[little silo]

!

[deft sonnet]

Or just ignore the wierd msgs

[regal swallow]

You cant Kill Wow with another game. If it kills itself first

[little silo]

Do I smell Heresy??

[lone crane]

Any game with the 'wow killer' tagged to it always ends up dying itself. Palia unique. Soon there's gonna be games out there with people going "THIS THE PALIA KILLER"

[little silo]

Big sad tru

[wild niche]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-15907237

[brittle lance]

@spring rivet I know of a Turtle, that might be a little sus....You know 👀 😄

[graceful orchid]

they are doing a pretty good job at it lol

[deft sonnet]

Oh yeah mb i am bad at reading sarcasm

[magic mist]

green looks sus

[novel plank]

🤨

[little silo]

Voting green

[novel plank]

I literally woke up to feed my cat and wanted to go back to sleep but here I am reading palia chat

[wintry atlas]

I think you mean 'WoW killer chat'

[deft sonnet]

Good

[lone crane]

Gotta study up to be the Palia streamer star

[little silo]

I'm on the clock at work...

[brittle lance]

Go back to sleep...Nothing is going to happen 😆

[rancid gate]

Yeah I have two people moving in, I should be packing stuff...but./...here I am. 😛

[magic mist]

zis

[novel plank]

hehehe that’s the hope n dream ☺️

[knotty crown]

"I don't get why people like WoW"

"I've been sucked into Mabinogi"

You are officially my flesh and blood.

[little silo]

I'm IT, nobody will know...

[novel plank]

If I fell back asleep it would probably be an hour top or something

[knotty crown]

I will know.

[brittle lance]

I never underestimate sleep.. Even if it's just for 30min 🙂

[lone crane]

BRO I GET IT AND I DONT GET IT AT THE SAME TIME. Mabi a better game

[magic mist]

Boss: Your performance went down recently.. Me: Palia Discord chat. Boss: Oh man, it's a miracle you get anything done!

[deft sonnet]

Do you want me to write you a sleep song?

[novel plank]

I have an alarm that forces me to get up at 12:30

[little silo]

"Yeah, yeah Goblin Queen is on to us, I need a 'clean up crew' sent to their address..."

[novel plank]

So I don’t sleep the day away

[knotty crown]

YES EXACTLY THANK YOU

[brittle lance]

Yeah that can be a real problem :/

You think we will need sleep in Palia, or get a rest buff?

[novel plank]

I can easily fall back asleep I just like reading this chat 😔

[deft sonnet]

Haha, is it midnight or morning for you now @novel plank

[little silo]

WoW world GvG and raiding pre-cata was the premier nerd experience

[novel plank]

It’s 11:22am LOL but my cat was jumping on me all night chasing a moth

[knotty crown]

Jokes on you, goblins are the cleaning crew and I'm their queen. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/515EBaHdMoL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

[open hull]

Does anyone know if they are announcing when they send out the alpha invites or is it best to just constantly check my email

[graceful orchid]

lol

[novel plank]

Theyll announce it I’m sure

[little silo]

Sending "Goblin Slayer"

[open hull]

Ok tyvm

[brittle lance]

We know nothing 😂

[deft sonnet]

Why do you wanna fall back asleep its almost midday 😅

[lilac portal]

Speaking of Twitch: I wonder if they will integrate Palia with Twitch. I know there was a game that had Twitch chat voted local events. I wonder how that could work in a noncombat based game like this. Maybe things like flora or fauna orientatedor maybe weather events?

[novel plank]

Because my cat had me awake from 4am to 7am with her racket

[little silo]

Great Anime btw if anyone here hasn't seen it... not recommend for kids tho...

[wild niche]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-goblin-slayer-anime-gif-13056346

[knotty crown]

@merry ridge @patent dust SEE? THIS is why I have Rule #1!

[wild niche]

Did somebody say 'Goblins'?

[deft sonnet]

A tennis racket?

[knotty crown]

Literally everyone has seen it.

Or seen the memes, at least.

[novel plank]

No she was jumping on my bed chasing a moth and jumped on my chest a few times in the process LMAO

[little silo]

Its the internet, ya never know

[brittle lance]

Try jumping back xD

[knotty crown]

oy oy oy

[deft sonnet]

Ah

[novel plank]

She’s just over a year and a half old she’s a baby but she’s a BIG cat

[deft sonnet]

I thought your cat plays tennis in the middle of the night

[graceful orchid]

Anyone ever watch Goblin Slayer Unbridged? now that is hilarious!

[brittle lance]

Little "BIG" floof

[knotty crown]

But joke's on you Havok, we have a play for that. https://pics.me.me/no-this-is-not-goblins-not-a-goblin-37804653.png

[graceful orchid]

Abridged*

[arctic onyx]

good evening

[knotty crown]

Perfect counter move. "Lv 99 Goblin. So cute, Goblin Slayer will protecc not attacc. Brings Goblin Slayer over to goblins' side for X turns.

[little silo]

Hmmm... orbital bombardment it is then. COMMENCE EXTERMINATUS!

[graceful orchid]

we are totally off topic in here lol

[little silo]

I mean...

[wild niche]

Time to check it off in the daily bingo sheet ☑️

[arctic onyx]

Riot's MMO is defo the WoW killer, Palia is the animal crossing killer

[graceful orchid]

^

[wild niche]

Riot has an MMO?

[arctic onyx]

upcoming

[knotty crown]

All Goblins slip into our shadows and wait it out.

You do realize goblins are mostly aligned with the Darkness element, right? We can temporarily make ourselves immune to damage by doing the above.

[magic mist]

mega hack.. you can put infront of anything "I wonder if in Palia will be" and write stuff, this makes it always on topic. Dont tell Ducks, I told you.

[lilac portal]

I think things can coexist. Why does everything have to die? Lol

[little silo]

Has "Havok40k goes 40k" been added to the Bingo sheet yet?

[arctic onyx]

because life is a competition

[knotty crown]

Not in Palia it isn't.

[novel plank]

What’s it called ???

[wild niche]

|"League of Legends MMO"

[little silo]

Doesn't matter when the planet is atomized.

[arctic onyx]

I'll hhave the bigger pumpkin

[wild niche]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-ive-seen-enough-click-clack-dinotrux-thats-enough-gif-17478699

[gilded tree]

Did pre-alpha invites go out?

[lilac portal]

Unless it is a fishing competition and then I will own every.

[brittle lance]

You really don't think that both can exist? Really?

[novel plank]

It will be announced I’m sure

[arctic onyx]

no name for it yet, they started the project late last year, all we know is that it will he set in the LoL universe

[little silo]

Riots MMO? Not heard about it yet. Hmm

[wild niche]

It being a LoL based MMO I have a hard time seeing any point of intersection between the two fan bases

[little silo]

I hope its better than their shooter...

[knotty crown]

I got #1 in every Webzen Asta fishing competition and beat every age bracket in fishing when I was younger irl. You have no chance.

[novel plank]

I think that’s the 3rd or 4th time I’ve sent that same message today 💀😭

[spring rivet]

While we're here, a friendly reminder to everyone NOT to entertain any suspicious DM's from users you don't know, and report them to any online moderator. Thanks pals!

[knotty crown]

Hytale

[arctic onyx]

Hytale is their minecraft like game

[novel plank]

LMAOOO hytale is a hypixel thing pls

[lone crane]

"new mmo is next wow killer"
Man how many times have we heard this over the years

[knotty crown]

Technically they acquired the studios, and Hytale is an MMO just like Minecraft 🙂

[arctic onyx]

Riot owns hypixel studios now

[knotty crown]

except better

[novel plank]

Wait really?

[little silo]

I would hesitate to call Minecraft an MMO

[knotty crown]

yes

[carmine relic]

Can Anim Crossing be killed if it's already dead?

[arctic onyx]

yeah they bought them out 2 years ago

[knotty crown]

I mean if you make a multiplayer server it is.

[wild niche]

Minecraft isn't an MMO really, and Hytale ain't better lol

[lone crane]

Most recent wow killer I can think of is wildstar

[novel plank]

Daaaaaamn didn’t know that

[lilac portal]

Well I will just note to follow you around and map your fishing holes. Sounds like you have a talent

[knotty crown]

Oh please, the only WoW killers to ever exist were FF11 and City of Heroes.

[novel plank]

Hytale isn’t even released though- right??? I feel like barely any new info has come out on it in years

[little silo]

Minecraft even with MP is really a single player game where other people happen to be in the same server at most...

[arctic onyx]

they mostly post blogs on their website

[knotty crown]

Crap, he learned about the MMO site that posted my Asta fishing spot guide! ABORT! ABORT!

[novel plank]

There’s a server called Wynncraft that’s an mc RPG

[knotty crown]

Covid happened, but they're still working on it.

[lone crane]

And where are they
... NOW LMAO

[knotty crown]

MineScape is too

[novel plank]

Never heard of that one

[knotty crown]

FF11 was abandoned in favor of FF14, and CoH was NCSoft'd.

[little silo]

Well then its not Minecraft, its a mod enhanced experience.

[arctic onyx]

no mods

it's just the game

[knotty crown]

WynnCraft was modified, yes.

[little silo]

Palia, I suspect, will have game mechanics that reward community play. Thats the difference between MMO and MP

[knotty crown]

Otherwise it wouldn't have classes and such.

[lone crane]

Mods are asleep. SURVEY TIME WHERE YOU LIVING IN PALIA.

[shrewd fiber]

So what's poppin' Palia chat, I'm so confused right now

[lone crane]

https://ibb.co/vxJRsCF

[wild niche]

I'd also say mechanics and gameplay loops made specifically for co-op interaction would be another hallmark

[novel plank]

I just love the sound of the girl’s greeting in the trailer towards einar it makes me happy

[arctic onyx]

i meant like you didn't have to install any mods to play it, it was all done with plugins

[little silo]

The difference between MMO and MP is the community coop elements

[lone crane]

Gives me a reason to plug that image again.

[magic mist]

nothing gets people together like watering strawberries in a group

[knotty crown]

Plenty of MMOs don't "reward" community play. Though may "require" it.

Hopefully it's like FreeReamls tho.

[tough orchid]

Fun fact, if you type in: "worldofruneterra.com" in your browser, it takes you to Riot's mmo page

[novel plank]

You already KNOW where I’m living (:

[wintry atlas]

I've been thinking about this - Someone said yesterday about Town building projects etc; which i think sound great. Then you realise, someone will just mass gather, hoard & complete it super quick.

[knotty crown]

???

[knotty crown]

don't, banned

[lone crane]

Where you living in Palia???

[arctic onyx]

then that would make Rust an MMO, it has a lot of community features and such within the game

[novel plank]

Feeerealms was one of my favorites it shouldn’t have shut down :/

[knotty crown]

oh nevermind you fixed the spelling

[arctic onyx]

also you can have servers with updwards of 400 people

[tough orchid]

How would i get banned for this?

[knotty crown]

the spelling was wrong was why

so looked phishy

[deft sonnet]

do we know that you can hop servers in palia or if your locked to one like in wow?

[wild niche]

MMO does also have to do with the player count per server, but I'd say that Rust is effectively an MMO

[tough orchid]

I edited lol

[knotty crown]

Where is that map from?

[little silo]

I stopped playing Rust back when it had zombies (alpha?) Is it not an MMO anymore?

[rancid gate]

Honestly I don't care if someone does something faster than me. It's NBD. WHat will matter is if I can build and do the things I want how I want to and at my pace. What other people do or choose to is none of my concern.

You wanna burn through content then sit on your thumbs? You go for it.

[bright forge]

You will not be locked to server from what I know

[lone crane]

Some textbook? It's to teach you stuff Lmao it's not from a game!

[brittle lance]

"MMO" are based on how many players can be on the same server,at the same time.
But it's an old term and might not apply anymore.

[deft sonnet]

ah oki good

[arctic onyx]

they got rid of zombies, the biggest threat now is other players

[knotty crown]

It also has to do with player count that you can see while traversing the game world. I wouldn't count CoD as an MMO, but I would count AQW.

[little silo]

I have several friends who play it, but I staunchly refuse.

[knotty crown]

I'm not even sure what to classify S4 League as tbh

[wild niche]

Really what's being talked about is an MMORPG, MMO purely means Massively Multiplayer Online

Things like Call of Duty Warzone are an MMO, but they aren't an MMO as the community sees MMO. An MMO to most people is an MMORPG

[arctic onyx]

the game is completely unrecognizable from the alpha, it's changed so much, check #🎮│other-games they made a new trailer

[knotty crown]

RPG means RPG mechanics. MMOGs don't need RPG mechanics, but CoD is not an MMOG.

[arctic onyx]

truee

[wild niche]

Call of Duty Warzone is a Massively Multiplayer Online game, 100 players in a lobby

[arctic onyx]

cod warzone can hold 200 players

[little silo]

Really getting into semantics for stuff that has no definitive parameters.

[knotty crown]

That's a lobby. Do you see other players? lol

if so then ok

[wild niche]

The definition of an MMO is to just have a lot of players in a single lobby, all of them are visible in Warzone

[knotty crown]

Never even heard of Warzone tbh

[wild niche]

It's a BR for CoD

[knotty crown]

I meant other CoD games

[magic mist]

in Warzone, I usually see other players pwning my butt 😄

[knotty crown]

Yeah ok, Warzone is an MMOG.

[magic mist]

kinda feels like #🎮│other-games conversation though

[novel plank]

I keep feeling like I’m really close to thinking of a name for my bakery/apothecary but then I’m not

[little silo]

laughs from sniper scope 200 meters away

[arctic onyx]

idk if there is a defined cut off for what qualifies to be an MMO or not

[drifting creek]

Have the keys for the game already gone out?

[arctic onyx]

nope

[magic mist]

nope

[loud axle]

Nope, but this week they should!

[novel plank]

It’ll be announced I’m sure

[deft sonnet]

oh you gonna open your own bakery?

[magic mist]

Optimism

[lone crane]

I got ideas but I gotta keep it hush hush before the neighbors decide to steal my names

[cinder temple]

Keep chipping at your ideas; you'll find it. The name will slap you in the face like a rogue salmon.

[drifting creek]

Oh ok. I can't wait. Although with so many people applying. It seems unlikely I'd get it.

[loud axle]

You should know me by now 😊

[novel plank]

Bakery and apothecary for potions and ingredients

[lone crane]

I don't know what the patent office is like on the world of Palia so I'm not sharing names

[deft sonnet]

do you need fish in your bakery ? if so i know a good fisher

[wild niche]

Everyone's equally unlikely to get it so don't worry!

[hollow oracle]

Anything new

[loud axle]

Didn't Simuel offer some names?

[novel plank]

I have your list saved and I’m trying to think based off of it I know that once I think of the perfect name it’s gonna whack me in the face LOL

[magic mist]

after today's comment on Chuu/Chapaa.. no.. I don't know you, man. You changed....

[drifting creek]

Haha. Thanks for the help anyways.

[warm plover]

Man people are active here right now~

[novel plank]

Yes but the perfect name hasn’t quite come to me yet

[knotty crown]

Brewberry

[little silo]

The more off-topic we get, the more active the chat...

Its a bad habbit...

[void imp]

it once took me like three years to find a name for a character of mine

[loud axle]

Sorry I've betrayed you~

[novel plank]

Pls I’m on topic

[lone crane]

Bro the game isn't out yet. WE CANT STAY ON TOPIC FOREVER.

[hollow oracle]

Whats the topic?

[shrewd fiber]

You can though, there's other channels

just use them.

[novel plank]

I’m thinking of names for my little bakery/apothecary

[deft sonnet]

banger of a new ed sheeran song man

[novel plank]

For palia

[knotty crown]

Brewberry

[shrewd fiber]

nobody's perfect but like, if asked, move.

[lone crane]

But it's nice to plan ahead.

[novel plank]

Not magical / celestial enough LOL

[loud axle]

But we... Are on topic? I'm confused

[shrewd fiber]

talkin' about earlier, Roan

[lilac portal]

I'm really curious to see how Streamers impact a game like Palia. With it being so highly community focused and all. I really hope there aren't incentives to have too big of a community and they aren't given too much power

[lone crane]

Bro forget about the topics, speak from the heart 💜

[cinder temple]

Names can be a terribly pesky thing, so I can understand having a hard time coming up with one that feels just right. It's especially tough when you're naming a business, because that becomes a whole brand thing that can influence everything down to the look of the building and the little cards you hand out.

[loud axle]

Oh lol I just popped in, got a short break

[winged basalt]

I've actually been working on concepts for how combat could work in Palia, but until the alpha I have no idea if what I'm working on is even in the right zip code...

[little silo]

I didn't know who Ed Sheeran was until he showed up in GoT. Not really my kinda music.

[novel plank]

Exactly, and I seriously appreciate all the great names you gave me which is why I’m using those for inspiration

[shrewd fiber]

I speak from the heart and try to stay on topic. Also, please don't call me 'bro'.

[tranquil cosmos]

As far as I know, there isn't combat, except hunting

[lilac portal]

Sparring mini game could be fun

[arctic onyx]

dungeons will be a thing

[shrewd fiber]

Dungeons could be fun...

[little silo]

I could get behind that. Or like, Chappa jousting.

[magic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-blackish-anthony-anderson-tears-upset-gif-4988274

[shrewd fiber]

I hope they aren't awful long though.

[loud axle]

Did you notice the sword in the waterfall image?

[lone crane]

How are you gonna joust chapaas LMAO

[cinder temple]

I appreciate how adamant you are about figuring it all out. It's been a delight watching people pre-plan their future Palian nooks, so I've just been chin-in-hands watching your bakery, Milk's tavern, and Bean's flower shop come together in the hypothetical realm of pre-pre-alpha.

[little silo]

Carefully

[novel plank]

Sounds like more uncalled for chapaa abuse

[arctic onyx]

i want to see complex puzzles and riddles, kind of like sea of thieves

[winged basalt]

It was more that as a game that is not centered around it's combat system. Palia has the chance to have a much more customizable class system.

[knotty crown]

Moonbrews & Muffins

[lone crane]

I'm thinking more like chapaa hedge mazes. Like how they do with rats with cheese at the end of a maze.

[deft sonnet]

i love SoT

[loud axle]

The final Palia dungeon: my hedgemaze.

[shrewd fiber]

I can see that happening, but I hope they don't fill the dungeon with a dozen puzzles that take 20+ minutes each, you know?

[lone crane]

First chapaa to get the cheese wins???

[lilac portal]

I really want to have archeological digs and history to uncover

[shrewd fiber]

It'd become a chore just to get through..

[novel plank]

I’m thinking of finally streaming again today and I’ll probably be playing sea of thieves if my friends are around

[magic lance]

As long as they are not as hard as "The Secret World" one.

[cinder temple]

Tossing beanbags at Chapaa to knock them off a platform, only instead of knocking them down, they catch the bag and run away with it, because it has actual tasty beans inside.

[deft sonnet]

have you started the new tales already?

[loud axle]

Myst pls

[tough orchid]

Archaeology is on the dev's minds. It was mentioned during their ask-the-team session

[novel plank]

Nope

[little silo]

Go for it, do they let people announce their stream here? I'd watch

[knotty crown]

@novel plank Rye By Midnight

[loud axle]

Punny. I like it.

[novel plank]

See that sounds catchy but I hate rye bread 💀

[tough orchid]

Archaeology is on the dev's minds. It was mentioned during their ask-the-team session

[arctic onyx]

i would definitely want some really hard puzzles, if they're going the no combat route

[novel plank]

I don’t think so but mine is linked in my about me lol

[arctic onyx]

there needs to be some challenge

[deft sonnet]

Ah they are good

[knotty crown]

Sorry xD I couldn't think of anything else that rhymed with Fly

[winged basalt]

How you fight could be largely determined by what you have in your hands and what you're wearing when you leave the house. With an interlinked set of skills based around various tools.

You still conform somewhat to the standard trinity, but the interface isn't held to strict standards cause things like balance and difficulty are taking a back seat. And PVP is entirely absent. Which further loosens the requirements for balance.

That leaves you with the opportunity to make a class system that is extremely customizable and based entirely around the fantasy of what you're playing.

[lone crane]

If I have to do slider puzzles to complete a picture I'm boycotting Palia.

[void imp]

i love sot

[shrewd fiber]

Frying Pan Knight masterclass 😎

[arctic onyx]

also ARGs like destiny would be sick

[tough orchid]

This. Think Runescape without the combat and in-depth skill system

[cinder temple]

Introducing the dual-wield fishing pole paladin, reeling in crime since pre-alpha.

[winged basalt]

No the in-depth skill system... without the absolute need for balance

[knotty crown]

So OSRS you mean

[knotty crown]

Fishing pole weapon? LMS flashbacks

--

What if the witch forest is called Cacklewood?

[tough orchid]

You probably still need to balance non-combat skills every so often till you find a sweet spot

[remote latch]

ah but thats the replayability of such things .. next time can you do it in 15 ? then 10 ? rofl

[knotty crown]

ooooh maybe Sarah's place could be called... Cackle Cakes 😄

[winged basalt]

You'd need to balance the non-combat side the same way things like WoW and FF14 have to balance the combat side

[knotty crown]

@novel plank One last one for you for today. Cackle Cakes 🙂

oh geez I just saw the DND sorry D:

[carmine relic]

Witchy Woods is fun too

[novel plank]

What? Oh I’m always on DND LOL

[magic lance]

lol aye.
but the one in Secret world were a tad complex compared too most games.
Decoding 15 digit codes from binary and then finding the link between those numbers ( prime numbers) just to gain access to a computer....

[novel plank]

I like seeing notifications but don’t like hearing them come in and I always gotta check them so there’s none just sitting there LMAO

[knotty crown]

OMG YUSH Secret world! Were you around for the CryGaia era? ❤️

[lilac portal]

I wonder if we could have something like geocaching run by players in game. We could hide little treasures for others. Make our own treasure maps riddles and post them on a community board.

[remote latch]

I love puzzles like that . Some of the games my brother plays includes puzzles and he always calls me to solve them quicker than he would 🙂

[little silo]

I'm very curious how they will approach having PvE while also not having combat or death...

[knotty crown]

Oh, sarah, I just right-click mute the tab lol

[spring rivet]

sounds fun

[magic lance]

aye. one of the first 😄

[knotty crown]

There's a hunting bow being used by a guy hunting a deer on the trailer. Probably that.

[lone crane]

It's just hunting wild animals. Miss the arrow shot and the animal runs away probs.

[winged basalt]

The concept I had was you pick two weapons, from 3 groups, and then a set of armor to go with them. Each allowed combo comes with a small bonus to combat stats to match the playstyle you're bringing to the field, and a series of skills for each weapon type that match the fantasy of that weapon, with a similar set for each armor type.

You're not worried about balance, cause the knob for difficulty is purposely set low. This is an elective content block, not the core function of the game.

Grab a sword, a shield, and a set of heavy armor and you're a tank. But you can bring other tools with you like a bow, spear or even a magic tome to add flexibility to that base loadout.

Or you could be a guy with a bow, who brings a sword for when things get close. Or a guy with a bow with a spellbook to provide support.

Palia creates a unique situation that I think screams to be explored.

[knotty crown]

OMG MINTIE GO TO OTHERGAMES IMA SHARE SOMETHING 😄

[arctic onyx]

the combat would be stale without any real threats, i hope the life skilling will have a lot of depth to make up for the lack of combat

[novel plank]

I have everything completely muted except announcements and game announcements 😂

[knotty crown]

No I mean actually mute the browser tab itself

[cinder temple]

Ah, so it was you who silenced Nel.

[lone crane]

It would have to be made so tracking is part of hunting. Gotta learn how to track animal foot prints and stuff to hunt.

At least for the rare monster.

[lilac portal]

I just really love exploring and geocaching/treasure maps could be a way to not just wonder around aimlessly so much lol

[novel plank]

I’d never silence nel she’s so wholesome

[little silo]

I could enjoy a complex hunting/tracking system...

[cinder temple]

You bottled her wonderful voice to sell at Snakes & Cakes, I knew it!!

[knotty crown]

I've suggested this. Full GTA5 + RS style hunting and tracking. Don't be downwind. Follow tracks. Set up traps. Etc.

[novel plank]

nooo and nope to that name too sorry LOL

[knotty crown]

Snakes & Cakes OMG YES

oh fooey

[cinder temple]

S&C will just have to be the competing bakery run from down the road.

[arctic onyx]

you kinda just described albion online and new world

[winged basalt]

I just described a lot of things... that freeform concept is actually really popular

[remote latch]

As long as combat is purely voluntary and doesn't affect the players enjoyment of the game its fine. I just don't want mobs attacking the town becomes some yahoo attacked them first rofl ..

[knotty crown]

@lone crane I swear we're secretly related. I had actually made that suggestion as a requirement to find "lairs" with powerful mobs in them.

[graceful orchid]

I am back, how is everyone whats the topic of the moment!?

[knotty crown]

So you wouldn't just stumble on them, you'd have to find them intentionally.

"The Shadows Only Appear To Those Who Seek Them"

[lone crane]

Let.me take one guess, you suggested mabi's MML didn't you

[knotty crown]

yes xD

[spring rivet]

geocaching and how Palia would introduce PVE and "death" in combat idk something about that LOL

[lone crane]

BRUHHH

[knotty crown]

oh oh right one sec mont

[remote latch]

be vewy qwiet I'm hunting bambis .. huhuhuhu .. sorry the bambi part sounded better than the one syllable deer

[lone crane]

Palia better have something like MML, if we ain't playing Megalovania on the lute in the town square, are we really playing Palia???

[winged basalt]

I thought a lot about that. I don't think combat should be a source for anything common. You shouldn't be able to go out and grind materials in a fight. If you're fighting, it's for something specific. If you go into that cave full of goblins it's not to slaughter them to the man and bring back X goblin ears and Y pounds of goblinite armor to make a new four post bed out of. Furniture shouldn't come with a body count.

IF you go in that cave, it's to reach the ancient human ruins at the bottom of it... to learn some tidbit about what happened to your people...

[cinder temple]

5 minutes later in map chat: LF Backup; being mauled by 16 deer. Pls help.

[knotty crown]

Mont I said this yesterday 😄

I'm still waiting for a game that is pure exploration. And not just walking simulator, but actual exploration, with actual platforming, with actual point-and-click adventure style finding objects and combining then and using them in puzzle, with actual swimming, flying, crawling, spelunking, etc. That's not procedurally generated, that actually has a secret around every corner and under every rock.

[jagged briar]

Hey guys, beyond the announcement trailer is there any other footage of the game available?

[tough orchid]

What about when you "die" you become a ghost at a nearby grave yard and you'd have to walk to your body! That sounds pretty unique and quirky if you ask me

[knotty crown]

there's no death in this game

[graceful orchid]

Alrighty! sounds good and yeah that would be interesting too see how they would introduce that

[cinder temple]

Just this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850062378926473227/857303310812839936/chapaasniff.gif

[lone crane]

Bro I wish 😭

[remote latch]

Yeah, that makes it an optional element to treasure seeking

[void imp]

@tough orchid thats the best reaction the the chapaa gif

[spring rivet]

hmm in MHW they introduced "death" as just fainted

will send you home

[brittle lance]

I really like how wholes and full of ideas this community is.
I'm really just holding back a bit on all the ideas and expectations until I know more. I have jumped more than a few hype-trains in my life. And the disappointment and sadness that can come from it is crazy IMO 😟
I really want Palia to be all of this we talk about!

[spring rivet]

after a monster defeated you

[tough orchid]

I don't know if my 1050ti can handle all the animated foliage...

[shrewd fiber]

yeah but in MHW that's because you're the descendants of superhuman beings who can jump of thousand foot cliffs and dust off just fine

[spring rivet]

LOL

[lone crane]

Game is being run on toasters, you'll be ok.

[shrewd fiber]

I don't think we're quite that powerful in Palia.

[knotty crown]

The way I'd see it go is that dangerous mobs just have really OP auto-self-healing and can stun/knockback players, etc. Kind of like with Jas summoning healers and other helpers, a group of players can get wrecked by mob spawns and tactics.

Basically, maybe equipment for dangerous combat could have durability, and it actually gets weaker as you fight. So at some point you just can't beat the mobs and have to give up.

[jagged briar]

Is there combat in the game?

[lone crane]

No buddy, not pvp.

[tough orchid]

Are you calling the dev's home work stations toasters? lmao

[knotty crown]

Yes.

[graceful orchid]

lol

[winged basalt]

we don't know yet... it's implied but I doubt it's included in alpha

[knotty crown]

Devs usually have toaster workstations.

[jagged briar]

Okay

[cinder temple]

Indeed, I've heard you'll even be able to run doom on your Palia fridge once you level home decorating.

[knotty crown]

Only hunting so far (shooting arrow at deer).

[lone crane]

That's what they said... Game is being run on toasters so we might be safe.

[little silo]

If they gave hunting some depth where higher level hunting requires skill and knowledge on the players behalf, I could really get into it. Wind direction, scent concealment, tracking, camouflage, sound suppression, etc. I want to really stalk a prize beast over hundreds of meters for 20 minutes before making my shot.

[knotty crown]

omg yes

[tough orchid]

OH YEAH now that you've mentioned it, one of the dev's family members ran it on a 15 year old laptop no problem

[knotty crown]

Some mobs might have really good detection and run really fast too, so you'd also have to aim from far away for some of them.

[autumn portal]

I imagine such detail in hunting would come later, Idk if we expect too much this early in the game

[remote latch]

See everything has a potential to have a consquence of your actions .. kill one or two deer for some food/clothing for that days work .. no problem ... kill 10 or 12 for mass gathering .. maybe the local animal conservationists will choose to turn their back on you for x days because of what you did to their beloved animals

[rose cedar]

they do not plan to make any system over complicated. fishing is going to be similar to stardew but not as complex.

[magic lance]

lol like "The Hunter" you miss then get mauled to death by a wild boar.

[knotty crown]

No one replied to this lol

The way I'd see it go is that dangerous mobs just have really OP auto-self-healing and can stun/knockback players, etc. Kind of like with Jas summoning healers and other helpers, a group of players can get wrecked by mob spawns and tactics.

Basically, maybe equipment for dangerous combat could have durability, and it actually gets weaker as you fight. So at some point you just can't beat the mobs and have to give up.

I'm talking about when players intentionally discover mob "lairs" and such.

[little silo]

We don't really have any indication of what they're focusing on yet.

[lone crane]

I don't know what techwizard they have employed to be able to make a decent game run on a toaster but I'm glad they have this tech wizard.

[remote latch]

Like in valheim .. darn deers

[rancid gate]

Palia is meant to be a relaxing game, so I don't think things will be quite so involved

[astral sorrel]

hey guys, controversial opinion here: palia is really cool

[knotty crown]

I mean, hunting is relaxing. Like, real life hunting is relaxing.

[rose cedar]

no need for healers if there is no hp. lol

[lone crane]

Nooo... :( I could never.

[knotty crown]

Well not for players, no.

I meant HP for mobs.

[remote latch]

whats controversial about that ?

[brittle lance]

Naa that would be too much IMO. That's far to much like The Hunter

[rose cedar]

oh gotcha, misread. lol

[gritty veldt]

helloooo folks :3

[cinder temple]

The deer farmers looked up and cried "DPS PLS!" and the Rescue Chapaa looked down and chittered "Nah."

[knotty crown]

ngl I don't like the idea either. I can't even remember if I ever made a kill when I went hunting, I just accompanied the hunters. But yeah, it's relaxing. So relaxing it can be boring lol

[little silo]

Sure, and gearing up full troll hide helps concealment, and practicing sneak and staying in cover improves your success rate at hunting

[tough orchid]

I don't think so. The climate that was shown in the cinematic wasn't cool, more like the warm dog days of summer

[knotty crown]

Real hunting is planning, and patience. Plenty relaxing.

Unless there's a boar.

[uncut bear]

Hey fish

[gritty veldt]

what a bout a mOOSE

[remote latch]

Yeah I don't like the idea of hunting in real life either .. I told my mother that if we ever got egg laying chickens I will likely not eat another chicken in my life rofl

[knotty crown]

I'm not joking about the boars. Boars are like MC goats but 10x worse.

[little silo]

King Barathain has left the channel

[tough orchid]

Aren't Moose like the size of a small truck

[gritty veldt]

hiiii fancy seeing you here, it’s quite early huh

[remote latch]

so kinda like real life at the moment huh

[steep swan]

Moose are like the side of a barn, that big

[knotty crown]

Farm chicken eggs are unfertilized, you're not killing anything by eating them.

[cinder temple]

A moose could walk into town and take anything it wanted. Even Einar would stand aside.

[knotty crown]

oh you meant the chicken itself gotcha

[gritty veldt]

idk exactly but they’re freaking huge and like,,,,, can be very aggressive sometimes. tanky as heck

[tough orchid]

Yeah the summer's approaching that "liminal" phase where every day feels like a repeat

[little silo]

Valheim is a good baseline for the minimum I would like to see in hunting in Palia.

[knotty crown]

Moose can kill you, yes.

[little silo]

I would like SO much more depth.

[remote latch]

No I meant the idea of eating a chicken full stop .. like when the chicken got too old for egg laying .. hortense .. poor girl I knew her well

[rose cedar]

you get a bow with crosshairs lol

[knotty crown]

Eh, that's definitely true for bears. If a bear gets in your house, you just go into a different room and leave it be.

[knotty crown]

Read Legendary Moonlight Sculptor

[tough orchid]

But what if i want to make bear-hide armor?

[knotty crown]

No.

[gritty veldt]

thinking about that one youtube video where a bear comes over to a dude fishing or smthn and just sits right beside him then leaves. good stuff

[rancid gate]

I don't want palia to be like Valheim. I have Valheim. I love it, but if I would rather that Palia be it's own thing. There's no point in my owning two identical games where the only difference is the art.

[knotty crown]

We don't kill bears. Bears are sacred. Like horses.

[cinder temple]

Devs have mentioned wanting to stick to a narrow focus for Palia and not wanting to try to branch out and please everyone with things like PvP and high-maintenance stress systems (crop death, imminent danger in the yard, etc.). While this narrow focus does mean the game won't have some of the "usual" MMO features, it does potentially mean that the things we do get will be incredibly nuanced to compensate.

[rose cedar]

who said there will be bears?

[carmine relic]

Bear!

[knotty crown]

Bears will exist in Palia just to give us hugs.

[void imp]

Bear!! >:(

[tough orchid]

We're speculating. I think it'll be a bear mixed with a different animal

[lone crane]

Man I've been sitting on my ass at work for three hours now doing nothing but talk in the Palia discord.

[astral dock]

What about bair hides?

[gritty veldt]

a potential mount mebbe?

[little silo]

Nuanced and well conceived is all I can hope for

[lone crane]

Easy work day lads.

[carmine relic]

I will be scared if we have bears

[knotty crown]

Mont is your avi you and your bae?

[cinder temple]

And open to improvement, from what I gather. That's why being in this server and actively participating in testing and general feedback is going to be so important. We have a real chance of influencing the game.

[little silo]

I haven't received so much as an email today. Work is going great!

[knotty crown]

I too will be sceared

[magic lance]

for those that what to know how big a moose is..
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/61/71/2a/61712a2791a68c41cb7c09b85c85f374.gif

[lone crane]

Yes, piccrew. She likes to make us for fun.

[carmine relic]

I can't live in the middle of a forest with bears!

[knotty crown]

Read as: "I'm so alone."

[tough orchid]

We're going to need something to lead us to the beehive nest! What if we track the bears?

[knotty crown]

Aw that's sweet ❤️

[arctic onyx]

palia
.

[rancid gate]

Moose are one of the few Megafauna left. They are absolutely huge.

[remote latch]

I agree .. valheim is good for its viking lore .. just enough survival for defensive combat .. but Palia I would like to be where I cam to relax and sew and knit and do my gardening .. sit in the bar and chat or sit fishing listening to the birds tweet in the distance

[gritty veldt]

yeah no devs have expressed on multiple occasions that they want lots of feedback and suggestions from the players. they seem to want the game to be ours as much as theirs

[carmine relic]

Then you have both bears and bees to worry about

[knotty crown]

Go watch We Bare Bears 😄

[little silo]

I just hope they take player influence with a healthy bit of skepticism. I've seen devs ruin their concept by listening too closely to play testers who don't actually know what they want in a game.

[knotty crown]

That's what Honeybirbs are for.

[arctic onyx]

what about finding out about the mystery behind why humans disappeared in the palia world

this game might have some sinister backstory

[wintry atlas]

Can't rate this high enough

[tough orchid]

I remember some of the dev's trying to figure out how "stingy" they want to program bees to be LOL

[rose cedar]

no worries because I will be immortal

[knotty crown]

Well, that's why most of my suggestions use other games as reference. I've played those mechanics, so I'm sure I like them.

[cinder temple]

That's why one of the devs is named Bourbon. There will be a lot of conflicting feedback to sort through.

[void imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608357124950720534/859104359313178665/Untitled.png

[little silo]

Hey, in IT, if I do my job right it looks like I'm doing nothing at all ;)

[remote latch]

Im sure there will be people that want to follow that path of the story. But hopefully there will be a part where I don't have to do that if I don't want to.

[knotty crown]

I basically have a few songs lined up just for this lol

[tranquil cosmos]

Bears are cute

[gritty veldt]

i don’t think that will much of a concern despite their openness to feedback bc 1) a lot of them are v experienced and 2) they know what their creative vision is and they’re not gonna do anything to compromise it. a valid concern tho, and im hoping it doesn’t happen either

[steep swan]

The bears will have HP "happiness points", so we must feed them honey and sandwiches, then they'll be friendly and they'll carry us around if we want.

or you could shoot them , i suppose

[rancid gate]

PLayer feedback is important-even vital-but it should never ever sideline the basic premise of the game or your plans. That's how you get messes that never release.

[carmine relic]

I will smite the bears.

[rose cedar]

they said it would take real life years to get through that part of the lore.

[knotty crown]

Nu, bears give hugs.

[arctic onyx]

imagine the backstory is humans dying or mutating thanks to some disease

[rancid gate]

Now altering systems to work better based on comments..well that's just paying attention.

[tough orchid]

If you search "star gate" and "floating continent" in this chat, you're going to find some crazy theories LOL

[arctic onyx]

might explain the purple skin

[knotty crown]

This is how mounts will work lol

[rose cedar]

bears prevent forest fires

[knotty crown]

^ this

Humans legit just popped forward in time.

[tranquil cosmos]

False, only you can prevent forest fires

[gritty veldt]

i thought only yous prevented forest fires ?

[remote latch]

Or ones that start out popular and then go down hill as more elements are added that half the player base didn't want.

[knotty crown]

with their memories foggy (but not gone, just foggy on things like ancient designs and such)

Either that or, it's like Dr. Stone.

[arctic onyx]

player feature voting like osrs

[little silo]

I used to give devs the benefit of the doubt, now I wait and see how the first few updates after player feedback go to determine how closely they iterate based on player feedback to pass judgment. We will see what manner of devs S6 is after the alpha-keys go out

[rose cedar]

they have done removed a stamina system because it did not fit, doubt they will add another

[rancid gate]

That can happen too. There's a very careful line you have to walk with feedback.

[knotty crown]

Only if a vote requires at least 75% agreement.

[hasty crescent]

Well if you're not in the pre-alpha then you ain't seeing anything until S6 gives it to you

[abstract tusk]

A lot of in-dev game discords are just a litany of want and don’t want announcements so I hard agree.

[knotty crown]

Too many votes in OSRS divided the community that passed because they were legit over 50.0%, like 51%

[gritty veldt]

very fair, im just super optimistic lol

[umbral kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/lookatme-eating-tarsier-eyes-scary-gif-4838381

[hasty crescent]

LMAO

[coarse portal]

god those eyes

[hasty crescent]

my what big eyes you have

[little silo]

I'm a broken man...

[rose cedar]

hope they stay on their vision and do not let the vocal minority change it.

[rancid gate]

Honestly your best feedback is numbers-as a lot of players just won't say anything..they'll just leave (sadly).

[tranquil cosmos]

Look with your special eyes

[umbral kernel]

I'm just sittin' here watching the conversations go, lmao.

[knotty crown]

Which is why, again, at least 75%

[tiny otter]

good mormimg gang, one day closer!!!

[little silo]

MY BRAND!

[hasty crescent]

if you think numbers are your best feedback then you are a wow dev

or a robot

[rancid gate]

And just because I enjoy something doesn't mean that it's profitable or even appealing to anyone else.

[knotty crown]

They aren't but the vocal minority is tyrannical.

[rose cedar]

even if it is 100% but does not fit their vision they should not change it.

[knotty crown]

well true

[hasty crescent]

no vote's gonna be 100% on this scale

[rancid gate]

Number reflect honest feelings. The problem is pinning them to the problematic rollout/feature.

[gritty veldt]

i am a baby gamer lol. maybe more toddler at this point but still young and naive

[cinder temple]

Numbers can be a useful stat to look at, really. If a customer is dissatisfied, they may demand to see the manager, but I feel like more people simply won't return to the coffee shop. If you implement a feature and suddenly 30% of your players stop logging in, you might wonder if that's related.

[hasty crescent]

unless its remove chapaas from the game, thats a 100% no. We need those chapaas

[brittle lance]

Anyone know anything about in-game VoIP or proximity chat?

[rose cedar]

seen 100s if not 1000s of games never make it out of alpha/closed beta because the devs give in to vocal minority

[hasty crescent]

But if you do everything by numbers then you'll falter. You gotta balance the different feedbacks you get, rather than taking all your information from one sorce

[wintry atlas]

It certainly is an interesting challenge for the gaming industry that covers such a wide range of ages & experience. In business, you typically get some idea of what the 5 year plan etc looks like and what the final picture is to look like.

Think we mentioned earlier about silence being the preferred tactic to not get bad press but i'm of the view vague terminologies (community sim etc) doesn't offer much either.

[knotty crown]

One of the best pieces of advice I've ever seen is that most customers that complain are doing it because they like you but actually want you to fix a problem with the service. The notion that someone will be critical because they don't like you is true only in rare cases.

[cinder temple]

And if you do everything by vocal opinion you also falter. So yes, balance in all things.

[rancid gate]

One of the biggest issues devs deal with is players not telling them when something goes wrong or is hated.

They can't rely on the consistently loud voices, because when they do, they still can't get any accuracy.

People still have an issue where they don't understand the difference between personal feelings and effective systems, and the difference between complaining and constructive criticism.

[knotty crown]

^ This is true, which is why you also need proper QA before unleashing the beast that's alpha/beta testing

[hasty crescent]

tbh to put the blame on vocal minority all the time isn't really... Right. If devs, heck even people, can't make a judgement for themselves and just listen to other people then uhm, that's also quite bad

[knotty crown]

Experienced testers are far better at understanding effective systems and being able to make judgements with that knowledge.

[cinder temple]

The surveys are a fantastic method of data-gathering because the information is private (between players) and the opinions therein can be truly honest and their numbers tabulated concretely.

[hidden lynx]

Happy timezone everyone!! One day closer 🥳

[hasty crescent]

Honestly beta and alpha testing are quite different. Alphas about experimenting with features, but beta tests are more locked (aka, beta is more working out the kinks)

[gritty veldt]

true, hence the second survey question about not only what you didn’t like in a game, but how you would change it. they definitely want their feedback to be as constructive (and probably creative) as possible

[knotty crown]

Blame should only be put on the vocal minority if those are the only people the devs are listening to. But if that's the case, blame also goes to the devs.

[hasty crescent]

and this is a pre-alpha

[rancid gate]

Oh I don't blame the vocal minority, that's why I think you need to have a solid core concept that doesn't change.

Devs that believe whatever they hear have issues too.

And not all core concepts will work. For that you need a bunch of research pre development to even know if it's viable

[hasty crescent]

Devs should listen to themselves too

if they don't listen to themselves then they've lost their creative vision anyway and they're not gonna have the motivation to work on their game or project

[rose cedar]

indeed but the fear of $$$ will effect any ones vision.

[hollow fox]

Absolutely. Personal feelings in gaming will wreck a game if that is all any group focuses on. Function , playability and entertainment are what I look for , in anything really. I don't start crying because that thing doesn't come in my favorite color. Grins

[cinder temple]

I think S6 knows what they want. They'll try to make it compatible with what the community asks for, but I doubt they'll be abandoning their Chill Vibes Zone dreams before they launch.

[rancid gate]

Bringing a game to realization is a really detailed beastly thing to do. It's intense and requires a lot of thought and planning and just...everything.

And some times, for no reason at all, it just doesn't work.

Game development is hard.

[steep swan]

Most devs make their games, but also read the reviews to see if there's a pattern of dislikes, so they can change features that most players hate.

[hasty crescent]

Yeah considering they're not just starting out devs they aren't gonna give into a vocal minority

[knotty crown]

Alpha testing is for getting rid of gamebreaking issues. Closed beta testing is for getting rid of non-gamebreaking major and minor bugs. Open beta is for stress testing and minor bugs. Early Access is for dealing with the final kinks. Gamma is official launch. Unfortunately, many MMOs no longer follow this formula.

[steep swan]

except for radial menus.

why do devs love poorly implemented radial menus

[hasty crescent]

Idk, circles

[rose cedar]

being decently funded already, hopefully they can stick to their core vision for the game

[gritty veldt]

exactly. i mean even just reading #❓│old-team-answers-alpha i get the vibe they’re not going to compromise their vision. maybe expand it or tweak it over time but not compromise

[knotty crown]

QA is for general feedback and making sure the game can run in public testing at all.

[distant oar]

One thing I like about my work here at Singularity 6 is that I get to work closely with a data scientist. So it's not just about what is the community sentiment, but also understanding just how big that sentiment is as well.

[little silo]

Ssshhhhh, NEL SPEAKS!

[knotty crown]

Do you get to play the game too?

[gritty veldt]

howdy nel

[hasty crescent]

👁️ data scientists

[celest maple]

l

[hidden lynx]

Morning Nel!!! Question which mod/staff member would I dm if I have a concern about a member? 👀

[wintry atlas]

So at this point you must know 100% of the community want bees...right.

[rose cedar]

that and doing the same "thing" over and over with different variables

[void imp]

ITS BABY! hope you're doing well 🌼 🌻

[hasty crescent]

Wait we don't have bees?

[distant oar]

I was at a GDC a few years ago and one of the things the speaker was talking about was pairing community with data scientists. Feelings can be fleeting at times, data can help make decisions that are good for the long term. That's not to say feelings don't have their place ^^

[rancid gate]

Yeah data scientists and analysts can be pretty important. It strips away a lot of personal feelings and puts it into a clear format.

[little silo]

"The bees are happy" :)

[knotty crown]

Yep, which is why QA can be a headache

[distant oar]

You can send it over to me!

[knotty crown]

Nel do you get to actually play the game tho ?

[cinder comet]

I might be sending in my 2 weeks resignation today. Maybe I will try to find a career in gaming. 😂

[gritty veldt]

it’s about the ✨~nuance~✨

[rancid gate]

I've had the pleasure of attending dev conferences as well, and it's astonishing some of the stuff that comes up. Making a game is not a slapdash affair by any means.

[knotty crown]

I don't want to play a game that the devs don't playtest themselves xD

[distant oar]

I do!

[gritty veldt]

i think nel has mentioned playing the game yes

[hasty crescent]

Me who applied for mcdonalds fully expecting to get rejected

[knotty crown]

YAY!

S6 is good boi company, yes it is 😄

[cinder comet]

If only S6 was in FLorida or ... really any gaming company was. Haha.

[distant oar]

We do weekly playtests and we're expected to make it to these playtests. It's super important for us to be in tune with what we're creating.

[tired radish]

Do we have a date on the pre-alpha? Or rather, a date where I'll know to be disappointed if I don't get an email saying I'm in?

[knotty crown]

Artix Entertainment

[little silo]

I'm glad to hear it, this only serves to raise my expectations.

[knotty crown]

only one I know of, but there are others

[surreal gust]

That’s a perfect attidute

[cinder comet]

Where are they based out of?

[knotty crown]

Orlando

[tranquil cosmos]

I'm surprised Nel's brain is still functioning after reading those applications

[cinder comet]

Also.. I have no experience. HAHA. I can run a restaurant like a ship captain but gaming industry is entry level :P

[hasty crescent]

Most game dev or design work is contracts anyway unless you find a bigger company who needs you permanently

or small knit one

[knotty crown]

I wouldn't suggest "working" for AE tho because they rely too heavily on volunteers. IE you'd be unpaid. You have to be careful about that, the notion that volunteering is worth it because it gives "experience" is nonsense.

[gritty veldt]

good to hear good to hear :3 really so excited for this game partly because the big brain devs are infusing it with so much passion and love

[knotty crown]

Volunteer if you just want to spend your free time volunteering. Not for "experience".

[rancid gate]

Yeah a lot of game industry jobs are gig based. There's a lot of movement between studios and whatnot. I know some people who've been in for years and it seems every few years they have to move for a new company job.

[hasty crescent]

Well I suggest you look at the different jobs in the gaming industry and pick one to build a portfolio on.

[little silo]

Am I right that this is your first game as a Studio?

[gritty veldt]

side eyes chucklefish

[tough orchid]

This game is really going to be a love letter to MMOs

[knotty crown]

Yes, and depending on the company many have people work from home anyway.

[distant oar]

Last two playtests we've done, I've been on the highest end of hours played For the most recent one, I was the top player. I really enjoy the game.

[rose cedar]

yep is how most of my QA and paid player gigs worked. even had to get CN ss# to do a lot of freelancing there.

[gritty veldt]

right??? my heart 🥺 ✨💖

[knotty crown]

I would suggest not getting a job in a game company as your start. Try to make your own game first.

[knotty crown]

I hope it's a love letter to Free Realms, Toontown, etc type games.

[surreal gust]

Goshhh.. you make me want to play it soooooo bad! 😅

[hasty crescent]

Yeah you're not getting a job without a portfolio in the games industry, thats kinda just how it works with any creative art sector

[knotty crown]

I don't even mean that. Just making your own game is a whole bucket of experience.

[rancid gate]

If you want to break in, go to conferences, learn about events in the community and people, get involved. Don't downplay networking.

[azure rock]

Honestly I took the latter, like I like my job in game development and I learn new skills every day to then implement on other projects when I move on

[brittle halo]

sounds like a challenge

[autumn thorn]

id love to be able to share a beer in-game with my palls

[azure rock]

It really depends on what field, I had no experience or anything and now Im 2 years in

[rose cedar]

not true, got the majority of mine from doing volunteer testing like the tests here. lol

[faint dawn]

I have a feeling your about to be challenged once testers get on...

[little silo]

@distant oar is this the first game for S6 as a studio, or have you done other projects before?

[knotty crown]

I disagree dk, a lot of that is a waste of time. It's only useful for a job that actually requires connections. The LinkedIn mentality sucks up time better spent learning new things for the job.

[brittle lance]

😮 So many devs online... And Nel!!! 😄
I dare not hope!!!

[rancid gate]

Making a game is a long process with a lot of moving parts. Doing it with a small team is really hard, but it can be done...I see a lot of people thinking they can put a big game out by themselves and sadly that is very rarely (if ever) true.

[novel plank]

Nel the wholesome human being

[distant oar]

It's the first game for Singularity 6. Definitely not the first for our team.

[hasty crescent]

I'm not talking games testing, that really doesn't require much. I'm talking about the actual design and development aspect

[novel plank]

I gotta eat my waffles but saw people chattering in here LOL

[knotty crown]

Isn't S6 made of game dev veterans anyway?

[hasty crescent]

Ah Fez, the game created by 2 people, and was finished by 1

[knotty crown]

I just hope this won't be another Otherland.

[azure rock]

Right, like alot of my co workers have all worked on multiple different projects and we all vary in skill

[distant oar]

Yep!

[knotty crown]

Doesn't require much xD

[rancid gate]

You can certainly disagree but it's faster and easier to find out about opportunities whne you know poeple and they know you and your personality (and if it'll fit).

Also events let you showcase your talent and showoff.

[little silo]

I know you all come from a plethora of other games, I am curious to see how it all comes together

[knotty crown]

Showoff to who? The employers you're not going to work with for at least 10 years if ever?

[brittle lance]

First you put off sleep, then you put off waffles... What is going to be next? I don't think this is healthy for you friend 😅 😋

[solid marsh]

I'm super dying for the prealpha

[hasty crescent]

Idk about where y'all are but the creative arts industry is very close knit

[rancid gate]

Events usually have people from a variety of different studios and developments. So you're showing off to the community.

[little silo]

Soggy waffles no good

[rose cedar]

QA is my favorite part of any development game, device or etc.. QA is not your normal tester. lol

[solid marsh]

Is there a date for it yet? ;n;

[rancid gate]

Things like game jams are pretty big.

[tough orchid]

Pre-Alpha invites go out this week! GET excited

[solid marsh]

I will cry if my boyfriend gets in and I don't

[hasty crescent]

There's a lot of stuff happening this week

[distant oar]

RE: Getting into the industry, I got my job thanks to a video I made translating some things for HS and being mutuals with a few Blizzard employees. So yes, hard work and experience is needed, but also is the opportunity to get your work on the right hands.

[knotty crown]

Yeah, no matter the job, that's always a bunch of nonsense. Job fairs are better than that, and job fairs are usually ineffective for finding goodjobs.

[hasty crescent]

tbh networking is definitely important in the games industry

[knotty crown]

Connections are important. Going to "events" for those connections is not.

[distant oar]

Oh yeah! For real.

I built my network entirely on Twitter.

GDC as fun as it is, is ridiculously expensive. So not really a feasible option for many.

[azure rock]

I mostly get my connections just by like talking to peeps

[gritty veldt]

your strength is admirable lmao

[rancid gate]

er... no.

Job fairs are you just slapping down your portfolio or resume.

Jams and events let people see you in action, your work methods and flow and how you interact with people.

It can also show creative problem solving, on the fly thinking and how you do under pressure.

[knotty crown]

Notice how she didn't say LinkedIn

[brittle lance]

Depend on what kind of person you are, I guess?

[nova ember]

Context dependent. Also depends on your approach, most of my connections have been through job fairs

[solid marsh]

I have no network because I'm a weirdo that like reading manga and random cuddling piles

[tough orchid]

I actually DM'd a Riot dev on twitter and they were so helpful with career advice! 😭

[cinder comet]

What is GDC?

[rancid gate]

Yeah I don't count linkedin..it's...ehhhh...

[distant oar]

Also, I do want to caveat that my experience was 8 or 9 years ago. So things have changed significantly!

[distant oar]

GDC is the Game Developer's Conference held in San Francisco.

[knotty crown]

Job fairs do give connections, yes. I meant job fairs aren't as amazing as they advertise for actually getting the job you want. But building connections, yes.

[rancid gate]

Meeting people personally/in person, talking and getting to know them in a not "hire me pls" situation can matter quite a bit.

[cinder comet]

Ahh I see! Is GDC a good place to start if you're looking to get into that industry?

[hasty crescent]

No its not a good place to start

[azure rock]

I've been going a little over 2 years strong and I've been slowly building relations with other project developers to wriggle my way in, and so far its been very inciteful

[cinder comet]

RIP, haha

[hasty crescent]

its expensive

[knotty crown]

Don't just go to those places. If you go, you have to make an impression, and that's not easy. You're one fish in an ocean.

[valid ravine]

Does anyone know if there's a Kickstarter I can support?

[rancid gate]

Any conference for developers and about the industry is good to visit if you can, it'll get you some ideas on what to expect and some real world advice about the industry.

[distant oar]

I wouldn't recommend it as a starting place tbh. It is really expensive getting in, plus I think passes are locked for folks already in the industry? I've only gone once on a scholarship so I didn't go through the normal process of obtaining a pass.

[hasty crescent]

this game is fully funded. no kickstarter.

[valid ravine]

Or if this was the right channel to ask?

[tranquil cosmos]

I feel like a little kid sitting at the adult table

[distant oar]

No KS. We're fully funded 🙂

[little silo]

Game is fully funded, no KS

[novel plank]

I'm currently home alone for the first time in months after being hospitalized and developing severe anxiety pls but i did just eat the waffles

[valid ravine]

@hasty crescent thank you

[little silo]

I type too slow...

[wide wedge]

Hey you guys i just wanted to say that today is my birthday and im so happy to meet you all!!

[wispy meadow]

Nel!

[brittle lance]

We are here for you if you need anything 🙂

[distant oar]

Happy bday!

[little silo]

Er, text too slow. Mobile....

[rancid gate]

The conferences I have attended were all smaller ones, but some have gotten quite a bit bigger or featured devs from satellite locations for big names.

There's usually also small run organizations for people in the industry that talk about changes, updates and new tech.

[graceful orchid]

HAPPY B-DAY!

[tranquil cosmos]

Aww happy birthday

[solid marsh]

Oh hey today is also my birthday!

[gritty veldt]

happy bday!!!

[wispy meadow]

Happy birthday! 🎂

[nova ember]

I recall telling you about my ISTQB certification exam, ended up passing it thank god

[solid marsh]

Happy birthday!

[knotty crown]

That's great but I always get scared of the whole "Board of Directors" influence over games thing ): Too many MMOs ruined by that.

[azure rock]

Oh happy birthday!

[hasty crescent]

my college lecturer used to work on films and stuff so he tells us the stories and how your work from the beginning can really carry you

[graceful orchid]

i keep getting distracted away from chat - ff14 lol

[distant oar]

Happy bday to you too! ^^

[gritty veldt]

happy birthday to you too!!!!

[knotty crown]

Once again, do NOT be an Otherland!

[rose cedar]

its my Unbirthday today

[valid ravine]

Only other question is magic in the game and can I cast spells that let me grow a tree?

[solid marsh]

Than youuuuuu

[wispy meadow]

Not just MMOs sadly

[tough orchid]

Nel, any insight on the next villager vote?

[solid marsh]

Thank you guys cx

[brittle lance]

Heey it's my NOT-birthday today! YAY 🤣

[lone crane]

Well I'm going to give this game a kick if it doesn't start up right now and send me an invite.

[knotty crown]

not yet alu, but there's magic crystals for magitech we think

[hasty crescent]

Give me the hot elf T-T I wanna know the hot elf

[knotty crown]

that's like all the elves

[lone crane]

Man I replied late, thanks internet. I look like a fool now

[valid ravine]

@knotty crown oki I like magitech

[carmine relic]

I just want a pointy wizard hat.

[solid marsh]

Maybe for a birthday gift I'll get a prealpha key

[knotty crown]

with goggles

[solid marsh]

LOL IM SORRY I HAD TO

[gritty veldt]

ask and you shall receive

[hasty crescent]

welding or pilot googles would be sick

[knotty crown]

my birthday was a week ago and I didn't get it as a bday gift q.q

[umbral kernel]

Is that how we're doing this? Alright, it's my birthday, too.

[keen aspen]

at least youre eating, thats all that matters. i know how you feel, im home alone as well after 7.5 years and i struggle really hard with eating at all

[little silo]

Hey! Wait, uh, its uh... my birthday too? Ahhem

[distant oar]

I think that's a fair concern. I think the best way for us to show that it won't be an issue is through action.

[hasty crescent]

lmao y'all

[hidden lynx]

Happy birthday @solid marsh & @wide wedge ! 😄 That is exciting and I hope it is an awesome day for you guys 😄

[distant oar]

https://tenor.com/view/very-merry-unbirthday-alice-in-wonderland-gif-10945930

[solid marsh]

LOL omg guys

[knotty crown]

And hopefully no change in the Board xD

[carmine relic]

I'd ask a dev if we are getting the pointy hat, but I don't wanna bother them.

[novel plank]

I'm just trying to not sleep all day and trying to stay hydrated so i'm attempting

[lone crane]

Y'ALL BETTER START POSTING ID IF THEY GO THROUGH WITH THIS

[solid marsh]

Thank you !

[hasty crescent]

#851872239435644928

[wide wedge]

Thanks!! 😏

[hasty crescent]

there's a whole channel for asking questions folks, use it!!

[knotty crown]

Oh Nel I hope there's one thing you guys will absolutely not do, and that is have Customer Support ask for RL info.

[wispy meadow]

Flower crowns plssss 🥺
It's all I ever want in fantasy/farming type games

[keen aspen]

youre doing good girl, hang in there, you can do it

[solid marsh]

OMG I want a birthday hat

[brittle lance]

@distant oar Are you also the Palia community manager? 😛

[bright forge]

It's closed now

[lone crane]

Better see that driver's license with that birthday in tact. No cutting in line

[buoyant sinew]

Happy birthday! Now go look up "birthday paradox" on youtube 😉

[hasty crescent]

yes

[umbral kernel]

Sleep is what'll mess ya up the most in the end. Bad sleep patterns mess with -everything- .

[solid marsh]

That you get in your birthday in palia

And it's cute and dingly

[rose cedar]

locked until others are gone through.

[carmine relic]

But I don't wanna waste a potentially good question's spot just for something so absurd!

[tough orchid]

I feel like S6 dev's wear a lot of hats haha

[graceful orchid]

I am gonna go take a shower and I'll be back 😄

[solid marsh]

And you get it in the mail

[remote latch]

sheesh 180 messages in 20 minutes .. thats how busy this chat is rofl

[brittle lance]

Indeed

[hasty crescent]

why is a busy chat funny...?

[graceful orchid]

I have the day off today so i am going to get clean comfy and enjoy ya'll company today 😄

[novel plank]

Yeaaaaah that's true

[hasty crescent]

There's like 80k people here we're just chillin

[gritty veldt]

whenever a dev emerges so do many others

[solid marsh]

Why are you stealing someone's lawn

[brittle lance]

It's not. It's stressful 😂

[rose cedar]

wait till it is announced that the invites were sent. lol

[cinder temple]

I'm trying to envision the board meeting that got Palia funded.

S6: Okay, so we're going to make a game. An MMO.
Backers: Continue.
S6: It's going to be about relaxing. You'll be able to sit under a tree, go fishing and hiking, and even build your own home.
Backer: Mm-hm, mm-hm.. And what makes Palia different from single-player games that do the same thing?
S6: Well, first off, we have engaging storylines and loveable NPCs that can really bring a community together. For instance, we have this robot named Einar who-
Backer: Picture. Give.
S6: Oh. Well, here he is. Anyway, he's the fishing NPC, so he-
Backer: We approve the project.
S6: Don't.. Don't you want to hear about the rest of the-
Backer: It's approved. Get to work.

[knotty crown]

@distant oar Will Customer Support ever ask us for IRL information like pictures, IDs, SS numbers, card numbers, etc?

[hasty crescent]

So I can pay them to take it back.

[knotty crown]

It's closed.

[umbral kernel]

That zoysia grass is hard to come by.

[graceful orchid]

I love the activeness of this channel !!!

[hasty crescent]

yes thank you i've been told several times

[remote latch]

because 180 messages I may want to have read will now go unread .. far too many to catch up read rofl

[lone crane]

Uh oh Brittany is here

[hidden lynx]

honestly that would be amazing if it was true but if it were me presenting I would be incredibly sad to not pitch the whole project

[tough orchid]

Imagine convincing a board of directors with just concept art HOLY

[knotty crown]

All hail the Queen WHOSE THRONE WILL BE MINE

[hidden lynx]

heya Mont how are ya!

[hasty crescent]

I wonder how many pebbles Einar will get within the first 10 minutes of the pre-alpha going live

[lone crane]

Lmaooo yo what's UP

[hidden lynx]

REZ! lies :p

[solid marsh]

Omg

All the pebbles

[graceful orchid]

this ^