💬│palia-discussions

[cobalt cradle]

that is to say, if we do get to set up player specific stalls or even arrange certain properties as actual "stores" in some way 👀

[storm sedge]

Like if they were in another world?

[cyan basin]

Also, you all are absolutely allowed to say 'Sarah, hush' if I get annoying, babbling is a side effect of my painkillers

So, if we had a life elsewhere and are suddenly poofed into this world, I have a character concept.

[fiery fulcrum]

how's everyone c:

[cyan basin]

If we are the exact same humans that vanished, I have ideas

its only the amnesia 'POOF you exist' that I am having trouble with

[cobalt cradle]

uh sometimes it's good to babble and get it off your chest and out of your brain - it's more annoying to stay discombobulated!

[dapper forge]

I wanna explain my thoughts bout it but i cant cause it doesnt make sense

[cyan basin]

I'm not even starting to think about elf backstories until they confirm it will be available, lol

[storm sedge]

The lore looks very promising

[cyan basin]

Awww Dragon, I'm not coherent at all, just type it out, read it, fix it, then hit 'send'

[cobalt cradle]

if you wanted to go the safe route with a backstory, I guess you could just say that certain things feel familiar - since basic objects most likely look similar or the same as in the "original" world the humans came from

so it's not fully alien, but feeling disoriented at first would absolutely make sense

[dapper forge]

Ight prepare for what 1 hour of sleep and alotta manga gets me

[cyan basin]

lol

[cobalt cradle]

and who knows, maybe the devs will open up about the world the humans left behind at some point

[arctic onyx]

heyo

[cyan basin]

Yeah, I'm hoping they answer the 'what do our characters know' question in the next Q&A, but it will probably be a while before they go into any of the lore

[cobalt cradle]

yeah true, I'm happy to wait till they flesh out more of it :3

[arctic onyx]

i hope our character is a blank slate like in destiny

[storm sedge]

Maybe the humans were experimenting with dangerous things and opened a portal to another world? Idk

[cobalt cradle]

as long as it isn't fully along the lines of getting sucked into a digital world kind of a plot

[brisk ivy]

Maybe the humans are invaders from another planet, who were driven back and now have come back for revenge!!!

[cyan basin]

So, the type of things I enjoy doing will be farming, fishing, cooking, possibly brewing. Normally that would make me be a quiet homebody supplying and helping the people going out to kill the dragons (no offense DrAGON)

[arctic onyx]

i just like killing things

[storm sedge]

Quiet life enjoyers rise up

[cyan basin]

Yeah, I'm not trying to guess where they are going in the lore, just what aspects and personality I can bring to my character

[brisk ivy]

Everything's quiet after the nukes go off.

[blazing kelp]

nuketown

[dapper forge]

So my idea is that here world is a alternative to ours and us playing is us visiting them. humans existed once in the past cause we had another way to visit back then but we lost it then vanishes and we can now visit again using the game idk its meta its wierd and prob stupid
TLDR: We as in us as people are using the game as a medium to visit there world long time in the past there was another way but we lost it.

Its meta

[blazing kelp]

doctor who

[dapper forge]

Also i just wanna fish

[storm sedge]

Like breaking the 4th wall?

[cyan basin]

its valid, Dragon, most people wouldn't realize (ingame) what was happening

[arctic onyx]

humans messed around with some black hole tech and got socked into a pocket dimension where they lived and evolved for eons (explains the purple skin), then one day that pocket dimension collapsed and humans came pouring back into the real world

[forest wyvern]

Hello

[dapper forge]

Yea

[storm sedge]

Thats a nice idea tho

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Non server emotes got the disable?

[cyan basin]

You would be considered 'that crazy guy' if you tried to convince other people about it, that would be fun and funny

[cyan basin]

From what others have said, yeah, nitro emotes are not working here

[dapper forge]

The conspiracy theorist class unlocked

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[cobalt cradle]

go with what feels right to you, it's not that difficult with certain traits to have a very classical "x was influenced by y to change how they saw the world" - or maybe if they start off a little more self centered, not necessarily evil but maybe mean in some way, or pessimistic even, purrhaps they ended up drinking a random concoction that you know... nudged them in the happy helper direction

[cyan basin]

Now, again, in other games, being shy, ugly, untalented would be valid RP choices, and I have used all of them, but here... we want to be inclusive and there will be too many that are shy, feel ugly or untalented in real life so I don't want to be reminding others of that

the problem is that a unique game like this has unique problems, lol

[blazing kelp]

the holy words.

[cobalt cradle]

I suppose that's a fair point 🤔

[cyan basin]

Twins are also fun to do, either by yourself or with a good, trusted RP partner

[cobalt cradle]

still don't find anything wrong with characters like Snufkin from Moomin, but not sure if the whole nomadic/traveller lifestyle is something they'll end up accepting as a form of existing in the game/story

oh yes - twins are way too fun

[storm sedge]

Interesting to see all this theories, but its pretty late in my country lol, gotta go to sleep. Bye bye~

[cyan basin]

I think that would definitely be a valid choice, travelling and gathering and selling your things in various areas of the game world

[plush delta]

Oki!! Goodnight everyone!!!

[cyan basin]

sleep well you guys!

[cobalt cradle]

though from a perspective of not having a twin sibling, I fear I'd be stuck with very stereotypical things for them to do/act

[cyan basin]

its like having a regular sibling, only more so, from what I saw of my mom and my uncle, lol

[cobalt cradle]

never fully fleshed out these twin characters I had written down at one point, mostly just based them on a set of twins from my school back in the day - with a couple added quirks

[cyan basin]

I have a story (mostly still in my brain) of a set of twins, one becomes a soldier, the other a medic. The opposition of violence to defend and healing anyone is interesting to explore

[cobalt cradle]

it was sort of fun though for the brief moment they existed, considering the more quiet and 'lazy' one also had to deal with narcolepsy

[cyan basin]

lol

[cobalt cradle]

indeed - in fact there's this one Youtube channel that featured twins, one is a priest and the other a soldier, quite fun to see the differences but likeness they still shared

[cyan basin]

Hmmmm, if I had more than just 'common sense' for training I would set up as an ingame therapist

[cobalt cradle]

I mean why not?

it's not like you have to make any sense and be a proper therapist

[cyan basin]

again, a lot of players here will have their own issues and I really don't want to get into IC/OOC issues

[cobalt cradle]

cross something like Luna Lovegood with the Mad Hatter for instance

and yeah... been there, done that, seen the worst case scenarios of IC/OOC can get way too jumbled up

[cyan basin]

Yeah, no matter what game I play, no matter what character I play, I ALWAYS end up as the shoulder to cry on and giving relationship advice to players, not their characters, the players

[cobalt cradle]

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I end up being Sneak Archer.

[cyan basin]

I also end up associating with thieves, pirates, and mafia, lol

[cobalt cradle]

oh noey, that really sucks out the fun sometimes uwu

lulwhat those are such extremes

[cyan basin]

I know!

[cobalt cradle]

Sneak Archer sounds like fun though if it includes snatching someone's secret cookie stash

[cyan basin]

I had a nice, young medical student who agreed to tend bar for a friend when he threw a party. 6 months later she's 'the captain's woman' for a bunch of pirates cough Agressive Salvagers cough out on Lok

[wooden widget]

Fishing is somehow easier when its from someone elses basket/bucket

[cyan basin]

lol

out of someone else's barrel?

[cobalt cradle]

too true

I mean either works for a hangry Chuu

still, that's usually the fun part of living stories - you never really know for sure where it'll take you (discounting any set in stone GM moments) - so for Palia specifically, I feel like all roads are open, regardless where you start off at

[cyan basin]

I suppose I could be a barfly, but I'd end up trying to recreate my favorite character which does NOT fit this game, lol

at the very least you all are helping me rule out a bunch of things, and I appreciate it

[cobalt cradle]

and if they main consensus is that being inclusive, friendly and nice is the way you'll end up - if the characters indeed arrive a little discombobulated then who's to say they couldn't originally be evil but because they're confused, they get another chance at being a bit more nice

plus it can give a decent excuse to add in some flair with random acts of derp in the sense of getting angry out of the blue or acting a bit more selfish at times.. could even apply thievery to that aspect

[cyan basin]

oh god, I don't do evil. I mean, I have and as a DM having totally evil NPCs is fantastic, but I end up going wayyyyy too far with evil so I try to avoid it

[cobalt cradle]

but hey, there's always community service options for those who get a little too rowdy

[cyan basin]

thinks back to when she tortured a guy for being mean to a friend

[cobalt cradle]

[cyan basin]

lol

trying to think of the stereotypes of a small village

[cobalt cradle]

tiny note to self - nyu anger Sarah butt

[wooden widget]

I think little bit of bad on good might be decent mix, same goes the otherway

[junior vapor]

wut

[cyan basin]

lol

[junior vapor]

what did i walk into

[cyan basin]

we're discussing RP, not real life!

[amber zinc]

Honestly I'm just as confused

[cobalt cradle]

bunny shaped doughnuts!

[junior vapor]

ah ok good i got a little nervous there

[cyan basin]

puts away her virtual skinning knives

[junior vapor]

.........

[amber zinc]

But if we're talking about RP I had a D&D character once, she was. An alchemist who had a penchant for poisons... And torture.

[junior vapor]

its ok you dont need to explain your "hobbies"

[cyan basin]

I joke with my friends that I am definitely on the FBI and Homeland watch lists, between our conversations about what we did to our sim husbands, and my research google searches for writing, lol

[junior vapor]

shudders

[cobalt cradle]

actually I know someone who loves crafting tiny knoifes 👀 they'd probably love being a blacksmith in Palia if they end up playing the game

[amber zinc]

Was actually a super fun game since it was a WoW campaign

The entire party was aligned with the horde

[cyan basin]

We have basically decided that Palia is a very unique game and has unique issues when it comes to RP character ideas

[amber zinc]

Oof Sarah I'm pretty sure I have my own personal FBI agent just because of my amazon books list

[junior vapor]

lol my laptop barely handles elder scrolls online so i have to login and select character multiple times before it lets me in

[cobalt cradle]

hides allegiances in a corner because she plays both sides in WoW

[wooden widget]

All of the knives being named after various torture... mechanics? (i dont know the word)

[thorny dune]

The correct way to play

[cyan basin]

Dwarven Hunters, and Tauren Hunters (back before I boycotted)

[cyan basin]

They say Palia will not need a high end gaming rig

[cobalt cradle]

at least we get more space cows but more fluff and cute in Palia

[cyan basin]

I just need to find 15 people who want to play my character's older brothers, lol

[cobalt cradle]

uh good luck?

[cyan basin]

lol

I based that character off of a good friend of mine who actually did have 15 older brothers

[cobalt cradle]

or just wave the damsel in distress flag and I'm sure people will turn up sooner or later

[cyan basin]

no twins, either

[amber zinc]

My old chiropractor has 11 kids

Everybody keeps telling him he should go for an even dozen :p

[celest maple]

Oh no. It's not an even number.

[cobalt cradle]

oooh I could totally see someone going for that Mother Goose in her shoe house thing 🤔

[amber zinc]

Lol

[cyan basin]

lol, they lived on a farm, lots of kids were pretty much necessary

[cobalt cradle]

(twas a rather snazzy game way back when I mean uwu not just the nursery story)

[amber zinc]

Back onto a previous topic though. Crazy RP stuff Is always fun.

[cobalt cradle]

the good kind of crazy is definitely fun!

[celest maple]

Can't wait to see a couple get a divorce and listen to the arguing across the street. Really immerses you in the roleplay

[amber zinc]

Lol "the good kind of crazy"

[cobalt cradle]

to be fair though, personally I'll still stick to the sidelines and read what other people are roleplaying rather than taking part in it

[amber zinc]

Oof

Do we have a somebody who's nervous to roleplay?

[cyan basin]

That's totalyl valid, too, Niphredil

[cobalt cradle]

oye vey hopefully it doesn't trigger anyone in the wrong way if/when it does happen

[cyan basin]

No, Wolf, I'm having trouble coming up with a concept for my character and my brain won't let me wait until I know more lore, lol

[amber zinc]

If people get triggered by somebody getting divorced and arguing in a game, I think they have bigger issues

[agile pivot]

sings sarah sarah no time is a good time for goodbyes

[noble compass]

Chapaa supremacy

[amber zinc]

Chuu!

[celest maple]

False

[agile pivot]

Now that song is stuck in my head O____I

[amber zinc]

You can use it as a battle cry too

[cobalt cradle]

nah not nervous - I had some really bad experiences once upon a time and I'm not that quick at responses as far as any type of roleplay goes so... it's not my comfort zone

[amber zinc]

CHUuuuuuuuuUUUUU!

[celest maple]

I did it enough when I was a kid. I grew out of roleplay

[cobalt cradle]

also Chuu will rule forevermore

[amber zinc]

Ah fair fair, yeah some people aren't quite as suited for RP I guess

[agile pivot]

Given that animal crossing was thrown around i wonder if we could prob get sponsored items like a 7-11 set O____O

[noble compass]

Chapaa

[amber zinc]

@cyan basin making new characters is fun, for the purposes of Palia I might just use one of my OCs from my pet project "convergence" but then the question becomes, which of several hundred do I use?

[cyan basin]

The only thing you have to do with RP is respect it and not try to grief it, other than that, join in or not as you like, we're all here to have fun

[cobalt cradle]

it was fun in part, still love the character creation process - and absolutely adore the characters I have from that period of time - it's just the IC versus OOC and debacles over proper decorum that went a step too far

[celest maple]

Sadly common courtesy isn't found much in games anymore.

[cyan basin]

Been there, lol, but so many of my previous character concepts don't fit well in a laid back, cooperative, easygoing game.

[cobalt cradle]

and honestly, any time I so much as think about anything roleplay related, it still sets me off on the course of wondering how messy it'd get

[amber zinc]

Eek, see that's why I like tabletop games for roleplaying. It's a lot more relaxed about IC/OOC stuff than video game roleplaying and I kinda got fed up with Vidya RP too honestly

[agile pivot]

@cyan basin i think rp servers should be a thing not everyone is going to respect rpers and the other way around Rp community can get a bit ridiculous with their rules so a separate server should be considered

[amber zinc]

There is less "proper decorum" and more everybody is here having fun kind of vibe to it

[cobalt cradle]

not to mention at this point I'm still not sure how active I'll be in Palia so I'm also being a bit more attentive on the guild part and who I'll end up mostly playing with

[celest maple]

That's a good way to invite trolls. An area specifically for RP is a huge ay yo we in here come troll us

[agile pivot]

@celest maple wait… by that logic wouldn’t you be attacked either way?

[celest maple]

Exactly. It's gonna happen.

[amber zinc]

Ah see the way convergence is designed I have hundreds of NPCs and character templates filling a bunch of different roles from shopkeep, to farmer, to adventurer, etc. The world of being a DM is rough lol

[celest maple]

Best you can do is prepare for it and don't give them the time of day.

[cyan basin]

Yeah, 4 decades of DMing, I feel ya

[agile pivot]

For me its hit or miss when it comes to Rp. Last real fun i had was an old Harry potter interactive form where you can take your o.w.l.s and send howlers to ppl

[cobalt cradle]

oh speaking of characters and such, has there been any mention of whether or not we are supposed to only have one per account and is there a technical limit on accounts per player? 🤔

[cyan basin]

all they have said is that 'for the alpha' one character

[cobalt cradle]

actually sounds like fun would totally end up trolling my closest friends with those howlers though

[amber zinc]

Aw you mean I can't max out one character of each class to test each class out? :P

[cobalt cradle]

alrighty - keeping an eye on that then :3 but I honestly should try to limit myself to one character... this time

[cyan basin]

not sure there will be 'classes' so probably not an issue, Wolf

[amber zinc]

RP is weird because like most communities you have different "levels" the super serious RPers are generally the ones that get weird about rules and stuff. I remember back in RuneScape this one guy got pissed because my character walked through his. And I wasn't even a part of his group... I find video game RPers are generally among the most serious when it comes to it. Then everything is just more chill from that point. But like it was mentioned, on the complete opposite end of the spectrum you have the people who actively look to harass people who are roleplaying

It's a weird kind of balance that you have to find I guess

I'ma just back off into my foreverDM corner now with my notebook titled "characters I'll never get to play
"

[cyan basin]

Yeah, best bet is to just figure out who you are in the game and just play and react as they would. low stress, low key

[cobalt cradle]

aye that's a good point, Wolf I've seen how light RP and heavy RP has managed to coexist but then, at that point I feel like the people involved were good friends who just wanted to have fun

[amber zinc]

A lot of people can't seem to figure out who they are irl, let alone in game 😂 sorry, off topic I just found it amusing.

[agile pivot]

In the end it will all balance out 😄 or hell people will do what they have been doing for awhile bring the rp convo off game into a discord 😄

[mystic gale]

RP is like anything, different people like it in different ways.

[cobalt cradle]

truly I'm always the awkward lurker when it comes to random roleplay server moments (for GW2 for instance) where I end up sitting smack bang in the middle of the street so I can read random character interactions

[viscid aurora]

lol same tho

[amber zinc]

Lol that's always fun

[agile pivot]

Lol i use to creep on ppl in gw2 lol

[cyan basin]

Yeah, Wolf, that's also a problem because a lot of people who will play here have their own real life issues, so I don't want to make it harder for them to deal with it, in a place that should be an escape

[agile pivot]

Hell the npcs would have some amazing dialog if you sat around long enough

[mystic gale]

Some people are super lore strict and some aren't, some love that special snowflake RP where they make themselves a god, other people just like to play regular people with regular talents, it's all up to the person.

[amber zinc]

Let's be honest. Anybody who HASN'T people watched irl is probably the weird one here

[viscid aurora]

what are people

[cyan basin]

true

[agile pivot]

Facts

[cobalt cradle]

loaded into a very awkward moment in the strawberry patch outside the Black Citadel once, and I swear the two players who were roleplaying 100% went quiet for the moment I was there because whatever they were doing was more than a little bit sus

[agile pivot]

Im extra creepy i take close up shots of ppl here in nyc lol

[viscid aurora]

that just seems like normal nyc to me

[cyan basin]

and as much as I hate to do it, my painkillers are kicking in and I need to try to sleep while it doesn't hurt

<hug> to everybody

[mystic gale]

Night uppercase Sarah!

[amber zinc]

Night Sarah!

[arctic onyx]

i never really paid attention to people

[viscid aurora]

night uppercase

[cobalt cradle]

oh good lord don't remind me of the absolutely ridonkilous concoctions people would come up with when it came to alignment and race mixing

[agile pivot]

O/

[amber zinc]

What even is alignment?

[cobalt cradle]

sleep well Sarah!

[agile pivot]

Im going to fade into the darkness as well just dropped by to check out the community its litterally the most vibrant one so far out of all these up and coming games 😄

[amber zinc]

I literally abolished the entire D&D alignment system in favor of a more realistic and slightly more complex/grey system that was based upon noteriety and the personal opinions of the NPCs.

[agile pivot]

Good signs for launch imo 😄

[cobalt cradle]

[cobalt cradle]

I sat in on discussions relating to that system and other similar things, combat included, truly it reminded me more of a, as we call it, a sandbox argument you know, the type where kids start tossing toys and sand at each other and everyone ends up crying

[amber zinc]

Lol

[cobalt cradle]

granted, I shouldn't have been surprised when the age group was so vast but still... a literal head applied to desk moment for me, more than once

[amber zinc]

So I've got this pet project that I've been working on for years, I call it "convergence" but basically it started out just as a setting for a novel I was writing... Never finished it. Then it got repurposed into a D&D setting.

[delicate nimbus]

LET ME BE A GRIMALKIN

GIVE ME PLAYABLE GRIMALKIN OR GIVE ME DEATTTH

[inner flint]

😅

[cobalt cradle]

so in that regard - I definitely am happy with the randomness I've seen here so far, hoping I get to just live a casual adventuring farmer life, with a bit of baking, fishing, and herb/flower picking for all the dyes.. all of them

[amber zinc]

Then I got so annoyed by the fact that D&D limits what you can do soooo much and didn't mesh very well with the world I had imagined, that I spent several more years revamping entire systems including magic, combat, economy, yes, alignment, and character feats/abilities lol

[cobalt cradle]

ah yeah that would absolutely make sense^

[inner flint]

I'm just looking forward to a rather chill sim/mmo

[cobalt cradle]

indeedy

[rare smelt]

Evening all~

[amber zinc]

Now the setting is so complex and takes soooo much effort to run properly that I actively dread running it when I don't have infinite amounts of free time

[cobalt cradle]

ah yes, keeping track of all the tiny details someone is bound to bring up just to win their turn

[amber zinc]

Not even that

[cobalt cradle]

good almost-high-noon!

[amber zinc]

The systems I revamped are crazy detailed. Economy now uses a silver standard rather than a gold standard and dice rolls+modifiers to simulate a semi-dynamic economy. Along with that I probably quadrupled the number of items available for sale in every category to promote trading and economic activity between my players and the setting.
Revamped magic to use something similar to a mana-based system but less math heavy by essentially making everything multiples of 10 or 100, added a few spells and took a few out, spellcasting now takes time and spellcaster classes more or less blend together, instead of classes you can now practice different "schools" of magic.
Alignment system now based on NPC opinions, impressions, and biases. As well as fame and notoriety.

[cobalt cradle]

seems a lot more accessible for beginners that way

[amber zinc]

Nevermind I re-introduced the concept of boss fights and boss abilities lol

[cobalt cradle]

but that's fine - who doesn't want to get stomped by a sky high golem once in a while?

[amber zinc]

Kinda stole a lot from D&D 4e to do that lol

And that doesn't even include the level of detail I go into with most of the NPCs I make, or the setting itself, to which I've added some unique flora and fauna, and more than a few oddities to the setting itself, like a desert made entirely out of living flesh, or caves where the walls are entirely made of water that doesn't collapse inward

Most npc's are named, but I also have a small "filler" category that I use for generic encounters when the players ask to talk with random folks on the street

[rapid hound]

day 6 of hpo[ing to be picked for pre alpha

[cobalt cradle]

if you've gone to that extent with other GM things, I bet you'll come up with some super fun iterations for Palia too

[amber zinc]

Lol perhaps. I'm a world builder at heart. I love making new characters and designing new things. The problem comes in when I try to write a story I end up getting halfway through and deciding that the characters did something I didn't want to happen

[rapid hound]

mooooood

[amber zinc]

My writing style is a bit odd because I just write the characters and their personalities, write the setting I stick them in, and then let the characters do the acting and writing for me, just writing what they would do in this situation or how they would react

[noble matrix]

i wanna be a lore god, and give in my own lore.

[rapid hound]

MOOOOOOOD

[spring talon]

It's a blessing and a curse 😂

[rapid hound]

God, I use to try writing.... but I wasn't good at plot.... only talking and reactions.

[cobalt cradle]

it's one of the reasons I barely ever get anywhere with roleplay anyway, love the character creation process to a point where I get lost in translation when it comes to actually having to change their stories because of environmental or character interaction changes (mayhaps I'm simply too controlling )

[amber zinc]

See plot is perfectly fine with me, my problem is when my characters react in a way I didn't foresee ahead of time

[noble matrix]

the thing is , you create a opening that is open to more directions. and different patchs.. so you can maximise the story . just never create them to faar apart. in that way they are close to the original story and can relate back and forth. thats whats my teacher once said tho

[amber zinc]

That... Actually makes a lot of sense

[noble matrix]

that is why u do ^^

[spring talon]

My husband is very similar in that regard when he DMs vs me who improvs the conversations as my players interact with. It's not controlling at all it's just you have an idea in mind you wanna play through :D

[cobalt cradle]

pretty good advice

[noble matrix]

now be in mind , i dont mean do like wow. thats afull its to spread out .

and just makes bad sense. now if they all are short its very good

[amber zinc]

But my writing ends up being like my personal world. When I do DM convergence in it's full capacity, I drop the players into the world and say "have fun" and then they do whatever they want, the whole world is open to them lol

[cobalt cradle]

yeah, you have a fair point in that - I like to think a bit ahead of where I want to go with a story (because I suck at storytelling, or at least I feel that way) so when a curve ball comes my way I feel very uncomfortable too

[spring talon]

Throw in the players ontop of that and letting them write parts of the story too :3

[noble matrix]

but if you do role playing. it is kinda you vs the world you are in. therefore from the story point of your character it is your world. but taking into consideration what is your part in the world. and the different approached he can and potentially could result in getting., will open many different paths to where a new and close story to him can succeed forward. while maintaning the core of his lore

[spring talon]

Oh my gosh. That's the utter truth. It's really hard to not want to have all that in there. So if you can't use it the first time around, try again with another character. :D

[noble matrix]

getting ideas from a community is good, if u actally listen for once to the ones that make sense. they are usually not as good as the fun ones, but they maintan atleast the core of the story

[amber zinc]

I'm actually confused now and I think it's because we were swapping back and forth between RP and writing

[noble matrix]

no not really, i understand you get confused tho,

but they can relate to the same. the story and the RP. as they can be one and whole.

[amber zinc]

Hm

[left pebble]

Good day everyone!

[spring talon]

Absolutely agree :D sometimes it helps to see it from another angle and that angle really helps.

[amber zinc]

Morning disturbo

It's currently 0200 here, I should probably get some rest

[spring talon]

Good day!

[heady flame]

hi

[cobalt cradle]

snoozes do be good at times

[amber zinc]

Especially at 2 in the morning lol, I'll catch ya'll later.

[left pebble]

Go get some yeah, i left at 3:30 and regret it lmao

[noble matrix]

lets say u enter palia world. its filled with cute creatures and trees and no bonfire.

but you are RP a new adventurered / a hobbit lore guy ) he who wanders and tells the story while being the core to the lore n creation. he will by then always have a good story. and it will progress as the game itself progress..

So you entered and you would like your world to have more trees in one place and some bonfire as there is no. but you dont have any knowledge , but since its game there is help. but in the story you can tell ur side that you found a old script left of the anicent humans . told to do that and that and that would happen ( boom a bonfire is made ) . a story has began

[left pebble]

Gnight!

[cobalt cradle]

but if the mind is adrift and a good conversation keeps it aloft then sleep can wait - that way you can go to bed with an ease of mind and happy dreams await!

[noble matrix]

if not i am just wierd at understanding things, i got a wierd perspective. but its one i understand atleast ha

[scarlet monolith]

Very hyped for this game. Sounds exciting.

[noble matrix]

indeed it does.

[spring talon]

It's really cool standpoint. It allows you to see the story from outside the box that RP and writing go hand in hand 😄

[noble matrix]

yes. i think that is a great view. if you just want normal char rp u got that easy done. if you would want Game RP this is the perspective you could use. so in conclusion they relate very good depending what you want.

[cobalt cradle]

I always try to look on all sides of a box... you know, just in case there's that random sticker someone left behind... I mean, to keep my mind open for more than one side to a story, regardless of context

[noble matrix]

yea and the game itself does not need to have it, but i am over 100 % Confident if someone tells a story like this and RP it in the game. they will prob create a cave and it will show a transcript hidden in the cave.

which you must find.

[cobalt cradle]

though to be fair there have been some moments where trying to think of all options in a scenario only made it worse

[noble matrix]

but that is overthinking again,

[cobalt cradle]

purrhaps... I don't know if those evil, flying toasts would agree however 👀

[spring talon]

This is another hard pitfall to practice overcoming in writing

[noble matrix]

look at wow shadowlands.. 4 covenant all 4 different sharrds.. thats overthinking again .

they are all from same world. in general . so should use same stuff. but different story is cool.

[scarlet monolith]

I mean, if there’s any group system at all, it feels like there will be a role play focused community

[spring talon]

It'll be really cool to start seeing more lore for Palia :3

[noble matrix]

indeed it is

[cobalt cradle]

lest we forget the garrisons... which is something I hope these wonderful neighbourhoods don't turn into (unless someone wants their own personal space)

[noble matrix]

well it is a neigbour hood. so if all wants to contribute to less farming wood. and stones. i see it a great fit.

[left pebble]

Lore books when :p

[cobalt cradle]

with all the art and maybe they'd even consider a community art page in a book like that

[noble matrix]

maybe i should create some lore. a lore where no matter the character and fantasy game. all fantasy game can intepret by changing the names of the character and places in my story hmm

but this game is not focused on any quests right ?

[spring talon]

More so when we can be in game 😄

Like. Learning where the humans went or the history of all these other races and species

[noble matrix]

that would be cool and why they decided this time to actually come down, when they could have picked a different year. what is so important of this timeframe.

[left pebble]

Oh most definitely! We had a talk about in-game lore documentation through books, it was really nice

[scarlet monolith]

Yeah. The lore is interesting already. Why did the humans disappear? Why did they suddenly reappear? I want to know now. 😂

[left pebble]

I definitely want Einar to teach about the old times, wonder if he can comunicate in some way

[spring talon]

Ooooh!!! Sweeet. That's a great idea. Like building up our own local libraries

[cobalt cradle]

pebbles like Groot, but pebbles

[noble matrix]

should also teach blacksmithing !

this is one thing i would love the game to have Blacksmithing / Forging.

[spring talon]

I wonder if Einar might communicate through expression vs. actual words. They seem to LOVE fishing. I wonder if it's actually fishing they like or fishing for pebbles xD

[noble matrix]

i wanna see my character in close view , smashing the anvil and creating a lovely sign to the neighbourhood

[left pebble]

Einar doesn't do blacksmithing tho, he runs the fishing shack from what we know

[versed trail]

Hello

[left pebble]

To be fair I don't think we've seen a blacksmith yet

[noble matrix]

someone needs to know the way of smithing!

[cobalt cradle]

oh what if we could paint bigger pebbles to get some extra happy thoughts/random facts from Einar?

[brisk ivy]

Fish salesman by day. Blacksmith by night.

[versed trail]

Does this game make riot games?

[hasty crescent]

What do you mean by that?

[noble matrix]

surerly Einar have seens a smith in his life time. and can say it was smashing hot rocks. so a time frame of 2 weeks to learn to smith would be nice for the basic

[versed trail]

Is this game maker riot games ?

[noble matrix]

no

[wispy oriole]

yes riot maker game

[left pebble]

Ah yeah gender neutral makes for sense for a golem! Fishing rocks, acnh moment lol

[hasty crescent]

Some of the devs used to work at riot and blizzard. They're now an independent company

[cobalt cradle]

there's also the question of whether or not Einar uses fish oil to keep his joints lubricated 🤔

[versed trail]

In the news, it is said that the producer of this game is riot games.

[wispy oriole]

What's the deal with Chu and Chappa

[visual knot]

yo guys my name is adaminato in real life

[noble matrix]

yea its devs from those games, but they dont work for those anymore. they work here now

[visual knot]

i think chu all the way ! loollll

[cyan hornet]

nah chappa

[hasty crescent]

I've not seen anything about that

[noble matrix]

will there be different dogs in the game ? like a cute CHOW CHOW or the cutest wolf ever seen ?

[visual knot]

woof woof

[spring talon]

Trying to be considerate. I wanna be Einar's friend

Lol. Especially during the egg event. It just dawned on me that Einar might just like fishing for pebbles. I wonder if they can go in the water? Golems were normally clay creatures, but their composition looks of a mix. So maybe to get pebbles Einar fishies because they can't enter the water???

[wispy oriole]

I heard they have ex Zinga devs too

Will there be poker?

[hasty crescent]

Chappa is the offical name of the little boar/squirrel creature (look in #🐦│social-feed I think theres artwork there) and Chu is what some members of the community have started calling it

[versed trail]

okey

[wispy oriole]

Yes I chose chuu 🙂

[visual knot]

i think they also have some of the riot devs
will there be ARAM?

[hasty crescent]

Tbh I prefer Chapaa

[noble matrix]

pls no aram.

[hasty crescent]

but the whole vs thing gets old

[noble matrix]

and if soo. pls be with fishing .

[cobalt cradle]

http://twitter.com/playPalia/status/1403096769093767170 it's this wonderful creature, I do believe someone named Chu had asked about what the creature was called before it had been mentioned so some started calling the furball a Chuu

Palia (@playPalia)

Here is more information on everyone's favorite lil' scoundrels!

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926

Twitter · Jun 10, 2021, 9:08 PM

[wispy oriole]

Oh, so it's just to decide how they'll name it?

[hasty crescent]

no its called Chapaa

I don't think they're changing it

[noble matrix]

but they are prob looking for 10x more names XD

need more pets tbh

[wispy oriole]

Ooooh, so what does Chuu have to do with anything

[cobalt cradle]

it was just a joking moment by the community.. I think... that's what I read the other day in here at least

[wispy oriole]

Ooooh okok interesting

[hasty crescent]

Just a nickname from the community, doesn't mean anything

[mystic vale]

Ah, so name war is finally over?

[cobalt cradle]

tis forever Chuu

[mystic vale]

in our hearts, my friend...

[hasty crescent]

Well no, people will still "war" over it... But I don't think the name war had any inherent meaning to begin with

[plush otter]

[hasty crescent]

For all we know, Chuu is the name of a different creature

And the community is just so big brain they guessed it

[left pebble]

Hm, on the trailer we do see them fishing and tinkering with a fishing rod, so I guess they do like fishing too! As for the composition, someone (forgot the name :( ) mentioned it could be ceramic, or maybe stone with brass joints?

[cobalt cradle]

for me Chuu just feels more accurate, maybe in part because of Pokémon

[hasty crescent]

I mean you can't really be accurate on a name

Tiny Trash Sabertooth Squirrel is how I see it lmao

[cobalt cradle]

ah yes uwu wording, my bad

[spring talon]

Oooh. A neat mix of material. So far we've only seen Einar. Wonder if there will be more?

[left pebble]

I think so! I'm super happy about that

Jina has a golem companion, not sure if is einar too

[cobalt cradle]

not opposed to nicknaming it Scrat for fun but then we get to deal with copyright issues (in a less serious manner)

[left pebble]

https://twitter.com/playPalia/status/1402293188954509319

Palia (@playPalia)

👀 You may have seen this face in a few places by now, let's go ahead and introduce you to her.

Meet Jina! ❤️

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1861

Twitter · Jun 8, 2021, 3:55 PM

[cobalt cradle]

there was also the keeper of keys 👀

[hasty crescent]

Don't think its Einar, they'd mention it

[left pebble]

YES today we get more info in the Grimalkin i believe!

[hasty crescent]

the cat

thing

[cobalt cradle]

oh hecc can't wait

[left pebble]

Also yeah, you'd think they'd say "Einar is her Golem companion"

[spring talon]

LOL! Read my mind. Just went back to look. I'm HEAVILY interested though. Because the devs at the first post called Einar a robot and on their intro form it says 'culture: Golem' So I'm extremely interested if they're all robots, but all have different cultures? I dunno. That's interesting. BUT. Now it makes sense that they're robots and not what I'm used to as a classic 'Golem' i.e. clay, earthly material.

[hasty crescent]

also Einar doesn't look like they'd be in a scholarly setting

[left pebble]

Ye, we got the name of the race yesterday on #🌠│official-art and a bit of info in this channel

[left pebble]

Convo starts here :p #💬│palia-discussions message

[cobalt cradle]

did they already reply about the possibility of emotes btw? owo

[left pebble]

Ah yes, it does look like the definition of golem differs a bit from the classic giant rock beings. It's quite exciting that, at least from how Einar looks, they are tech based. An old remnant of the human era

[brisk ivy]

I liked the idea of collectible emotes that Animal Crossing had. I hope they try something like it.

[spring talon]

I loved that aspect in BOTW so much. It makes me really happy to see that here!!

[left pebble]

I really hope Einar was old enough to see the olden humans roam the land

[brisk ivy]

He probably was, if those ruins we saw in the trailer are from that time. Those ruins have the same trim as him.

[noble matrix]

im hoping on a in-game cinematic which is very slow progressing, but done in 10 min

[spring talon]

Was Einar one of the first?! 👀

[cobalt cradle]

not that I'd suggest copying an idea from another game, but Might & Delight in their Meadow game did their emote collecting by the way of finding puzzle like pieces around the map as you wandered around and I found that rather fun to be quite honest

[noble matrix]

no copying!! getting inspired is the word your looking for

[left pebble]

One of the first golems? That'd be lovely

It'd also open up the possibility of more like them having survived the passing of time

[spark helm]

he was the first one for me to love and hold

[spring talon]

oh the stories they could tell

[cobalt cradle]

aye :3 could be something similar, even if it was something like a reward from helping a specific NPC or finding a random rare creature, could be good fun as a treasure hunt

[noble matrix]

yes!

[brisk ivy]

If humans were advanced enough to create golem robots, what else could they have done?

[spring talon]

That is a really creative idea!

Destroy themselves

[brisk ivy]

Dats right, golem uprising.

[cobalt cradle]

I just love treasure hunts made a pirate map treasure hunt once for a cub scout camp and they all seemed to love it

[left pebble]

The way Sky: Children of the Light does it, with the constellations, is also very neat!

[spark helm]

weekly annual treasure hunts hosted by Niphredil??

[spring talon]

My D&D heart wants something dramatic and chaotic to have happened to cause the humans to disappear, but my want for a game that is chill with wholesome lore and not tragic is so strong. lol

[brisk ivy]

Imagine if we go through a long story that we get over time and it's like "Yeah, they moved to the house nextdoor."

[cobalt cradle]

aaaaah the pressure but if I had time and energy, it could be sort of fun - granted the whole pirate map idea was because I used Harald (from a Viking comic) as the theme for the over all course they were doing, with small tasks before the last one rewarded them a map to a plastic barrel full of candy

[spark helm]

no pressure! people can take turns hosting :D

[cobalt cradle]

aye and if I could teach myself to delegate tasks more often than not in mmo games...

but that said, even if it wouldn't be a player hosted thing (in case hiding and trading items or placing things like the chocolate eggs in WoW would be a feature) I'd absolutely love it if it was even only tied to seasonal events

if they're adding seasonal events

[spark helm]

an easter egg hunt would be so fun

[cobalt cradle]

especially if there were small clues, guess the wee pirate in me just wants to find that random message in a bottle while fishing even though it's a very over used thing

[brisk ivy]

Might be interesting to see how the in game time works. Like if an hour is a day, but they use Earth's season rotation, that would be 8,760 days in a year in Palia.

[celest maple]

I need some extra energy to make coffee, some coffee would help

[cobalt cradle]

oh yeah true that, especially considering how pesky time zones can be, I'm very curious how they'll handle the day/night cycle

[cobalt cradle]

I can only offer warm cocoa, as I drink neither tea nor coffee

[quick dove]

Then leave a can of coke or something in like a mini fridge next to your bed

[celest maple]

ok lol

[brisk ivy]

B12 time!

[quick dove]

Better yet by a Xbox mini fridge

[cobalt cradle]

like some people commented - it'll be easier to find in stores than the actual console

[brisk ivy]

5 Hour Energy contains 8333% of your daily recommended vitamin B12 intake. Each bottle is about 2 servings.

[cobalt cradle]

it did look purteh cute to be fair, for a sleek, black box

[mystic gale]

Say what you want about the Xbox fridge, but it’s got nothing on the KFC PC with built-in chicken warmer.

[quick dove]

your right, But with my PC already overheating my power supply I need a fridge

[mystic gale]

Use the fridge as internal cooling and still keep the chicken hot in the drawer. Sorted.

[cobalt cradle]

get Einar to hook you up with some snazzy water cooling

[mystic gale]

Or that

[quick dove]

haha, I luckily fixed the heating problem already, but before my new power supply came in I had to hotwire the power supply and cool it with ice packs

[cobalt cradle]

ah yes like me with ice packs on a tray to make sure my laptop didn't melt

[brisk ivy]

Hotwired a power supply?

[brave thorn]

Can't tell if we are talking about cooking or computers https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fry-unsure-squint-hmm-gif-5346260

[wispy wyvern]

Good morning Paliens!

[celest maple]

electricity and ice, good combination

[cobalt cradle]

we do not talk about the possible condensation

[cobalt cradle]

uh you could add brewing to it too

[brisk ivy]

Ah! The smell of fried computers.

[quick dove]

I had to use a paperclip to run power between power and ground on it and leave it in in order for the power supply to run

it was like 12years old

500w running a 1060

6gb

[cobalt cradle]

tis a very sweet scent at least, when you happen to accidentally drench it with cocoa

[celest maple]

@quick dove I remember that also

[cobalt cradle]

also a verreh gourd afternoon to you!

[quick dove]

was a fun time having to hotswap Icepacks to keep the power supply from trottling

[brisk ivy]

These days power supplies have fans that turn off automatically, because they don't need to cool down all of the time.

[cobalt cradle]

what's Einar's power supply?

[wispy wyvern]

Chapaa in a wheel.

[cobalt cradle]

Chuu though 👀

[wispy wyvern]

Yes, always before you swallow to reduce the risk of choking.

[cobalt cradle]

[celest maple]

Little bit offtopic, but fresh coffee smells really good

[cobalt cradle]

imagine what gaming would be like if you'd actually get to smell all the different scents and odours of the world you were playing in

[regal swallow]

Smell immersion

[celest maple]

That would be the world I would stay till I die @cobalt cradle

[fathom heart]

nervegear when

[brisk ivy]

The smell of fish, the fresh plowed cow dung fields, and the garbage loving chapaas.

[severe gorge]

never, its going to be elon musk's brain implant where you plug yourself into skynet

[cobalt cradle]

some part of me does want to experience it but then again I could just set foot outside in the real world too

[zinc solstice]

Yay my Cynus can just get even worse while i play the game 😛

[cobalt cradle]

insert 'but my immersion' meme of course - maybe one day, it'd be fun in a sense to get to know how developers would design their games with it all in mind though

[cobalt cradle]

just remember to do some stretchies once in a while

[zinc solstice]

Nose issue fyi 😛

[severe gorge]

eventually there will be a "Sensory" Department in gaming

[celest maple]

Well, my real world immersion is not too good

[cobalt cradle]

stretchies from head to toe gets the blood flowing and more often than not, that includes the snoot too and whatever it's hiding

[brisk ivy]

Seasonal allergies in video games is what I crave.

[cobalt cradle]

they did show off that glove thing during E3 but no clue how well it actually works - can imagine it'd be a good help for anyone with wrist/ligament issues

[celest maple]

Don't start at that @brisk ivy , soon we need lactose intolerance etc. lol

[cobalt cradle]

I am totally starting to lose one too many words while writing, should absolutely get some sleepy time in

[cobalt cradle]

if you see any other fun chatter aboot them shiny hunts, let me know btw I'll try to keep an eye on it when I peruse past this yonder corner of the interwebs

hope you all stay safe in your own cosy corners in the meantime!

[regal swallow]

Let the Dream world take you into sweet Dreams

[celest maple]

Enjoy your Dream-Immersion @cobalt cradle

[cobalt cradle]

I shall surely try my best to

[regal swallow]

You think there be giant sea turtles that are like moving islands for mobile fishing trips?

[wispy wyvern]

Why stop at sea turtles? Enormous clams with air pockets. Anemones the size of windmills , or the other way diminutive dolphins shoaling in pods.

[regal swallow]

Well I was asking because they can follow predefined "currents"

[wispy wyvern]

Yes but tiny dolphins

[brisk ivy]

Did they confirm swimming?

[regal swallow]

I wonder if Einar would help with underwater exploration

[dusty valley]

Hello there peeps 👋

oh ...pet channel...must...resist.....

[brisk ivy]

Swimming an underwater exploration would be cool if they went with the usual MMO route of full underwater exploration.

[wispy wyvern]

Ooh instead of turtles, what about nautiloids or crabs.

[brisk ivy]

Some MMOs don't allow for swimming at all, but those are more rare these days.

[regal swallow]

Leviathans

[wispy wyvern]

Potuguese manowar type jellyfish

[brave thorn]

Krakens that tickle you instead of trying to eat you

[wispy wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-tickle-long-arms-smiley-walking-emoji-gif-16428344

[regal swallow]

Bubble helms for underwater breathing

[brisk ivy]

This kind of hug?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4_LwgJ7Wc

[cobalt cradle]

or consider the nightmare of repurposed golem helmets - like Einar look-a-like head pieces or his kin/predecessors and also totally on my way to bed

[shrewd fiber]

A Broken Machine
Can't do Anything
We reset your Life
Reset Programming

but Einar isn't broken :<

[oak spoke]

morning everone

[wispy wyvern]

Hey Borb

[shrewd fiber]

hoy

[regal swallow]

Morning Void!

[celest maple]

Einar looks like a little bit like the scarecrow from Witches of Oz

[wispy wyvern]

The offspring of Scarecrow and Tinman 😉

[brisk ivy]

Einar kind of reminds me of Bastion for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to8yh83jlXg
He has those plants growing on him, implying he has been inactive.

Maybe less killer robot, though.

[autumn portal]

Waking up with a blocked ear I can't fix, I wanna die

But morning

[oak spoke]

hell now i feel welcome, and that sucks Gampooh

[latent tendon]

helo 🙂

[celest maple]

gday!

[opal roost]

iore

[regal swallow]

Hiya Pals! Everyone ready for the Grimalkin today?

[celest maple]

||Grimalkin||

[sand barn]

[eternal temple]

Morning! Yes, my body is prepared

[pulsar tinsel]

eyyy another Aussie??

[wispy wyvern]

Wait.. there's more than one of you?!

[pulsar tinsel]

We’re all paid actors

[bright forge]

Use medical pear with soap and water my uncle old method.

[autumn portal]

The thing I learned was olive oil, but I basically don't have time now, in 10 minutes I'm leaving for a driving lesson :(

[bright forge]

good luck then

[regal swallow]

You got this!

[celest maple]

kiwi

[lilac turtle]

ohh

[autumn portal]

I'll be fine but this is such an awful inconvenince that I would rather happen any other day >.>

[lean coral]

Hello everyone, I was the only one who thought that the Palia looks like a genshin impact?

[wispy wyvern]

Could be.

[bright forge]

Hey guys when do YOU think pre-alpha keys will be sended to us? I know the meme but maybe we could bet on specific dates to see in the future who was right? What do you think?

[regal swallow]

Atleast 4 mondays

[celest maple]

I enjoyed picking fruit in Genshin. not so much the combat. so i guess here I am

[prisma garden]

Yeah, very similar aesthetics-wise

[umbral ferry]

At least for landscape :p Less so the characters

[prisma garden]

This is true

I don't normally like MMOs but I'm excited 😁

[wispy wyvern]

It's not a meme, its a reality. Thats the answer.

[regal swallow]

Based on player size. There are some massive superstructures in the trailer

[umbral ferry]

For certain definitions of soon

[bright forge]

Ok but I think we will get it 7.7.2021 what about that?

[wispy wyvern]

Put some dates in a bowl, fish around and pick one out.

[umbral ferry]

inb4 pre-alpha is time limited to 2 days

[wispy wyvern]

All anyone can tell you with any certainty is that it will be soon.

[regal swallow]

[bright forge]

That's a game of guess so yes

[regal swallow]

I said 4 mondays need to happen because the 4 characters in the vote

They are the base npcs

[bright forge]

Good point

[umbral ferry]

also 4 mondays because monthl qna format

[bright forge]

Someone can remind me when we will get next Q&A?

[regal swallow]

Be kind of fun to have a alpha checklist to do like a scavenger hunt

[umbral ferry]

@bright forge see #851872171403640873

[steep zealot]

New villager giving some treasure planet vibes

[umbral ferry]

What new villager

[steep zealot]

#🌠│official-art

[umbral ferry]

Ah

not really new

[bright forge]

July 8th

[steep zealot]

new for me since i just saw it

[umbral ferry]

Well as in, all the villagers are already visible on the site and such

At least all in the vote (I think)

[steep zealot]

Aha i see

[bright forge]

I changed my mind I think we will get keys July 12.

[remote moss]

i wanna know more of the hunter with the dog-like creature 😭

i may or may not have a crush on him

[regal swallow]

The 'Hunter' might be a Mountain region contact

However I think he will teach hunting to players

[remote moss]

i'd willingly listen to whatever he'd like to teach me

[brisk ivy]

In some games, you need to learn how to tame pets and mounts, so you go to some tamer guy.

[regal swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/mulan-li-shang-lets-get-down-to-business-make-a-man-serious-gif-4020137

[brisk ivy]

Or you need to buy pets or mounts from somebody.

[regal swallow]

^ this kind of vibe

[brisk ivy]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/palia/images/0/0c/MK_CharaPicnic_FINAL-tian_S.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210606001706

Guy on the stump is totes bug guy.

Girl with pie is cook girl? That or chapaa dinner. That chapaa looks like it is about to attack.

[lyric ether]

look at that, bambi's to kill in the background

[left pebble]

ashura best man

I wonder if the letters and runes we see actually have a meaning

These ones for instance

[regal swallow]

There's an Aqueduct in that picture!

[left pebble]

Oh true!

[lyric ether]

so those rune if you decode them obviously have a key, and instructions to a secret website to use the key in. Only the best sleuths will find it.

[left pebble]

Ah of course

[regal swallow]

You can also see the Arch from here

[pulsar tinsel]

Ah fair, cross the pond

[left pebble]

this sphere marvels me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816275304992997427/853960352308264970/unknown.png

[lyric ether]

that isn't a sphere, it's clearly a giant soup pot

[regal swallow]

Community Stews!

[pulsar tinsel]

Soup soup soup

[left pebble]

We can draw a fairly detailed map of what we've seen so far, there's many points that connect one scene to the other. Could be a cool activity :o

[regal swallow]

The first town on the map

Is a triangle

[echo gust]

hello !

This game can play with friend ?

multiplayer ?

[regal swallow]

MMO

[echo gust]

Ok. Ty !

[regal swallow]

The Inn is on the Eastern side of the triangle

The house is north of Town

[echo gust]

Is there a time to the opening date?

[left pebble]

Looks like the waterfall and the little lake formed the river we see on the scene overlooking the city

[gentle birch]

Not yet, under 3 years

[regal swallow]

Waterfall is northwest of town

[echo gust]

thankss

[remote moss]

nothing's certain, pre-alpha is gonna get 1400 lucky players in soon, as for the release, it could take more than a year but devs said definitely less than 3!

i have high hopes the beta will release sometime in 2022, maybe summer?

[regal swallow]

Neleimour and Steve show up to Player's house in trailer

[echo gust]

Thank youu

[regal swallow]

With Einar

We will also get to see the Male Grimalkin today!

[lean hornet]

Will the pre-alpha come by the end of the year?

[regal swallow]

[lean hornet]

[regal swallow]

We might also get a Hi emote today

[remote moss]

pretty much yes, if you're referring to the first batch of testers being let in

nothing's really set in stone though

[bleak river]

Hi everyone, is Palia playable now?

[regal swallow]

Pre-alpha hasnt even came out yet but its

[gentle birch]

Not releasing for up to 2-3 years.

[regal swallow]

The lake is east of town

There is a lute in the house.

[wispy wyvern]

Which if you are a Dresden Files fan should make you nervous.

[regal swallow]

??

[left pebble]

Kvothe time

[winged basalt]

Right.... i don't want my spine sliced into costers

[solemn laurel]

how many are already in the pre alpha

[blazing kelp]

none

[left pebble]

Grand total of 0

[wispy wyvern]

This one knows.

[left pebble]

Keys haven't been sent out yet, 1400 will come out with the first batch of keys

Soon™️

[winged basalt]

Thoon

[regal swallow]

[bleak river]

Thank you so much! It seems a pretty nice mmorpg, I'm crazy to play it!

[gentle birch]

Yup, I think all of us here are!

[remote moss]

it certainly looks like the next big thing!

[regal swallow]

Anyone notice Einar is Culture: Golem?

[gentle birch]

It certainly does, but I haven't paid attention to the upcoming MMO releases, so I really don't know what else is out there.

[remote moss]

me neither to be honest, i've heard of a few but i think they're cancelled rip

like, amazon games was supposed to release one?

[left pebble]

yes! looking forward to see the other golem we know about

[regal swallow]

Jina is studying Human reemergence

[gentle birch]

I'm assuming the one released today will tell us its culture too, since it isn't human.

[regal swallow]

Culture: Grimalkin

It's in official art

[gentle birch]

Ah, I'm behind the curve.

[regal swallow]

We also discovered Steve and Neleimour in the Trailer

[left pebble]

Ye but she has a golem companion apparently

[regal swallow]

We also guessed that the plot size is 5 width : 3 length aspect ratio

By using crop squares in front of the home

[rose cedar]

I bet housing will be like the T.A.R.D.I.S. Bigger on the inside than the outside.

[summer obsidian]

Morning fam!

Wow Shrew, did you ever sleep!?!

[regal swallow]

Yes

[summer obsidian]

ok, haha. You were here to wish me good night and good morning 😛

[regal swallow]

Yeah I was night cycle exploring

[zinc plaza]

oh they releasing character images 😮 ?

[regal swallow]

Go to #🌠│official-art

[zinc plaza]

i hope there is small cute animal character

[regal swallow]

[summer obsidian]

For now they are releasing NPC characters. The plan at launch is that everyone will be playing human characters as we try to find out why humans disappeared from the world over 100 years ago

[regal swallow]

And as we meet you you can become our Pals

[oblique yacht]

[zinc plaza]

so i cant be a cute animal boy

[forest frost]

Daily reminder that I'm going to be the best farmer in the game

[zinc plaza]

🥲

[summer obsidian]

you can be a cute...human boy.....sorry, no animals planned at launch (at the moment)

[zinc plaza]

ok well

give me animal ears then, haha

[regal swallow]

Yeah hopefully animal onesies!

[forest frost]

I better have pets

[rose cedar]

lore dictates humans only. lol

I cant wait to romance all the npcs

[zinc plaza]

but equally

[brisk ivy]

NPCs are all night elves from World of Warcraft. I don't want to romance a night elf.

[zinc plaza]

be super good friends with all the npcs 💕

[delicate nimbus]

LET US BE GRIMALKIN

I WANNA BE A CHUNKY BOI

[regal swallow]

We have roughly 3-5 hours before more info on the Grimalkin

Using Pacific time for "Morning"

[summer obsidian]

"If" they do it in the morning and not sometime in the afternoon

[regal swallow]

They said monday morning

[summer obsidian]

ok

[regal swallow]

On the vote channel

[safe fern]

I literally just came to check when it would be XD

[rose cedar]

they said winner will be determined monday morning. not announced. (the winner has been actually determined for days.) lol

[safe fern]

Opened chat and the answer was right there amazing

[summer obsidian]

Shrew is dependable like that ❤️

[carmine relic]

Hmm. It is Monday morning, I think. Probably

[regal swallow]

I get most of my answers from Anastasia

Who analyzed the trailer as its using the Engine Footage

[snow portal]

Hellohello

[brisk ivy]

So what do you guys think the keys that guy has in his hands are for? Buildings he sells?

[left pebble]

Alpha keys

[brisk ivy]

Animal cages, but for people like us?

[carmine relic]

Probably. Maybe a treasurer?

[celest maple]

jailer?

[safe fern]

Yeah properties is what I thought too

[summer obsidian]

Roan had a good theory. Since he's on the page that talks about "Explore the world", he said maybe the "fast travel" is something he controls in town, and he has keys to send you to all the different portals in the land

[brisk ivy]

Oh, like magical portal keys?

Yeah, that could be cool.

[summer obsidian]

yeah, that would be cool

[safe fern]

Yeah I've been thinking the ruins around Palia look like portals

[regal swallow]

I called them skeleton keys

[rose cedar]

He is the Gatekeeper.

[brisk ivy]

It would make more sense, too. We sort've see that girl in the trailer build a home, so why would he have keys to players' home?

[summer obsidian]

yeah...creepy

[umbral ferry]

He's the one that locked humans away?

[brisk ivy]

Imagine if he had master keys to the universe and you woke up with him in your face.

[rose cedar]

nope Just ZUUL

[umbral ferry]

ZUUL?

[regal swallow]

Uses portals to steal sweet rolls

[chilly arrow]

"Driving too fast? Jail. Driving too slow? Jail. Charging too much for eh..sweaters? Jail." Thats all I could think of when you said that Inari 🤣

[tepid fossil]

Better call ghost busters

[queen plume]

OMG i just saw the video asmongold did on palia...... I hadn't heard of it before. This is the game ive been waiting for!

like just everything about it is amazing and hearing it has x blizz devs it gets my heart

[regal swallow]

Watch the Palia Trailer if you havent yet

#📢│palia-news

[eager escarp]

Blizz devs? I hope they won't give us more azerite power to farm again :kekw:

[heavy narwhal]

I don't know if Asmongold should have been the way you found out. I mean, hasn't he shifted to a "reacts" to others type of content creator?

As side from that, this is exactly the type of game I've been waiting for as well.

[summer obsidian]

I need to watch Asmongold's video...his personality doesn't seem like one who would like this game, so everytime I hear he gave good remarks about the game it surprises me

[eager escarp]

He wants to play FF14

His desperate

[queen plume]

Like im fine with how i found out. i like his stuff but thats me.

[winged basalt]

He needs to make a male viera named Asbungold

[tepid fossil]

Who actually gatekeeps how people find out about new games? How doesn't matter, as long as you end up in the right place

[queen plume]

yea but if you watch the video from lazypeon the state of MMO's is hard to make content for as its kinda dead

[umbral ferry]

What is dead? 🤔

[eager escarp]

Tbh the right person to make the review is Shroud no cap

If he plays this game

For a few hours, ez 400k views on stream

[winged basalt]

This is why I recommended the seasons stuff and linking various things to them.

Spring = Planting season = new crops new mechanics around crops
Summer = Growing season = new housing stuff and associated mechanics
Fall = Harvest season = crops produce more when harvested + storyline stuff
Winter = Crafting season = Staying in your house and out of the cold crafting stuff + new crafted items

[umbral ferry]

That'd be great. The original SNES HM gave each season it's own identity. Later farming games did away with that

[heavy narwhal]

This is my biggest hope.

[winged basalt]

It also makes it so that S6 really only has 4 big 'deadlines' a year

And, those deadlines are the two solstices and the two equinoxes

[heavy narwhal]

Which gives lead to easily prepare for the future

[brisk ivy]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/palia/images/5/5d/Media-Carousel01.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210604173659
You know, that guy kind of reminds me of a pirate.

[heavy narwhal]

And set up better events

[safe fern]

Yeah the magical(?) eyepatch

[regal swallow]

4 ears = better senses

[brisk ivy]

Maybe he's a treasure NPC, where you get him to tell you were to find chests or something?

[winged basalt]

We get new mechanics in the fall, new furniture to craft in the winter, new crops to plant in the spring, and new housing stuff to build in the summer.

[brisk ivy]

Or maybe you collect chests and bring them to him?

[winged basalt]

We know generally where things will be, and can plan our time accordingly

[safe fern]

His little brooch reminds me of a globe too

[heavy narwhal]

I'm just ready for a new Sim style game based on community efforts. I think it's going to be a game if they do what they say they are.

[queen plume]

un really hoping people are able to make towns together

[regal swallow]

Neighborhoods = Guilds

[heavy narwhal]

As am I, there have been many games to say this, but backed out.

[brisk ivy]

Did they ever show a shovel in this game?

Shovels in Animal Crossing were used to dig up buried stuff, which would be really cool if he was a buried treasure NPC.

[queen plume]

I play on a RP valheim server so i do it there so im kinda hoping i can do that here

[hollow jasper]

E ai clã

[heavy narwhal]

Not played Val in awhile lol

[hollow jasper]

Tava dando os like nas bandeira br aqui, espero que com isso eles percebam o povo indo atrás e coloquem pelo menos a tradução pt

[safe fern]

I couldn't get my pc to run Val, I gave up and went back to minecraft

[heavy narwhal]

But Val doesn't take much to run 😩

[regal swallow]

Do remember this is an English chat

Other chats be implemented later

[blazing kelp]

what variety of latin is this

[queen plume]

I do wonder how the building mechanic will be for having a variety

[safe fern]

Right?? Super weird, my pc can run pretty much anything else too, it's not low spec

[blazing kelp]

valheim is more demanding than it looks, that's for sure.

textures aren't there, but its got a lot of effects

[queen plume]

very poor optimization I think

[blazing kelp]

most likely.

[safe fern]

Yeah I remember it ran slightly better without effects

[brisk ivy]

Is it CPU heavy or GPU heavy?

[queen plume]

I hope that the Shops are albion stlye and community driven in Palia

[brisk ivy]

I hope it doesn't use a centralized auction house, but who knows.

Some games don't even allow direct player to player trading.

[blazing kelp]

could be cpu, a 4core cpu ran it slightly worse than a 6core cpu. as a test from my side.

by slightly wrose im talking only 10fps difference

[wintry atlas]

I think you have to appreciate that players will make global trading happen anyway - at which point not having an AH is a hindrance

[regal swallow]

Trade pebbles

[blazing kelp]

pebble currency

[brisk ivy]

A central auction house usually bumps into an issue where if materials are really common, everyone is selling them and undercutting by a penny.

[blazing kelp]

i love it when something is 0.01% cheaper than the thing i listed.

[brisk ivy]

Then eventually the materials are like "Why farm when I have plenty of pennies?"

[wintry atlas]

Yes that's right - But my point is you can either have that happen ingame in an AH or off on a website, much like Warframe

[heavy narwhal]

I'd hope this game had direct player to player trade

[wintry atlas]

When players want to trade and reach the largest audience, they will

[blazing kelp]

classic warframe trading. 1 plat cheaper.

a method used for instant money

[brisk ivy]

I mean, I hope they have a player stall system, but probably not.

[queen plume]

not a centralised one. maybe one per town or you go to the black smith to buy iron from and players have to sell iron to the black smith for him to be able to sell iron to other players so simialer but more actual shops for certain catagories

[heavy narwhal]

And I'd like to see separate AHs, like one town has their own. And so on. Because if the towns are far enough apart then there should be different items for sale. Or if one community decides that they are "clothing" focused and another farming, then they should be different markets.

[celest maple]

agree 100%

[wintry atlas]

Albion uses this system and prices are still rock bottom on various things

[gentle birch]

I personally don't think there will be a player-driven economy. There appears to be a shipping bin in the trailer at the entrance of the plot. Just a hunch, but I think it will be more like a MMO version of Stardew Valley. But I will be following the development to find out!

[queen plume]

I love that idea especially if different towns could focus on one thing and then trade between towns

[celest maple]

you don't want everything being the same having towns be unique makes adventure more enjoyable

[heavy narwhal]

Agree

[celest maple]

it gives you a reason to travel and like visit other towns and such and so forth

[wintry atlas]

I think this is probably where we are more likely at in the game as far as we know. There doesn't seem to be much incentive to make money from the small snippets we've received.

[heavy narwhal]

I'd love to see fishing towns, mining towns ad so on.

[queen plume]

Such a good idea

[brisk ivy]

One thing about auction houses is that they remove a lot of player interaction

If this is a social game, that might be bad.

[wintry atlas]

So your belief is the mechanic should be a player has to stand at a stall and sell to those walking by?

[queen plume]

that is true that is why im hoping theres player made shop fronts where they can sell stuff at

[queen plume]

if they have a npc that sells stuff there it could work

[brisk ivy]

Yeah, that could, but then that defeats the player interaction bit... hmmmm

[queen plume]

if there is a player made town there could be someone that does mining and sells specific stuff

[wintry atlas]

I don't think a lot of players want to stand by their stall though. So you either have an open stand without needing to be by it (so no interaction); or force players to stand idly by and try persuade those who do come to buy

[heavy narwhal]

This is true, but for your casual or busy players, this is often their only option.

[brisk ivy]

What some games do is they have NPC run stalls, but make sure that you know who is running it.

[heavy narwhal]

If they don't go with AH or trade stalls, maybe a barter system.

Since we haven't really seen money involved, a Barter house for the exchanging of goods

[wintry atlas]

Correct - and i think this had typically led to either ingame mechanics (AH) or websites that basically act as your advertisement

[queen plume]

they could have a option to man the stand and dismiss the npc if you have a NPC there you only make say 75% of the money per item sold. which then insentives you to be there if you choose to which would then create player interaction

[brisk ivy]

Auction house systems do the taxing thing as well in a lot of games. That sometimes gets people to interact through direct trading.

Most of the time it just makes a gold sink that everyone bites the bullet for, though.

Tough design choice!

[heavy narwhal]

I'm thinking a billboard type system. Example, you have 100 logs, but no ore, and you have no time to get it for yourself. You post on a town billboard that you are willing to part with x wood for z ore.

[mild dove]

it could be a afk stall. Back when I tried the mmo wakfu there was a type of housing called a house bag. You could do some small stuff through tile and stuff but there was a market item you could place. and when you where in the bag players can see what was for sale.

[brisk ivy]

Oh, an order system?

Like you place an order and then somebody delivers it to your home?

Don't think I've seen anything like that before.

[void imp]

shrew this is the second song you got stuck in my head, but i'm not complaining. keep it up.

[queen plume]

im really hoping to be accepted in the pre alpha.

[heavy narwhal]

FLYFF had this mechanic for afk trading

[void imp]

not sure about their gender and they have a big mechanic/inventor vibe

https://palia.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Media-Carousel05-1024x576.jpg

[wintry atlas]

Yeah not one i've had too much interaction with but i think it sounds like a solid design choice. I'm struggling to think of a game i've played that's used it - did Mortal Online ever use it (Not in my time playing it) & that is a very poor comparison game for game anyway.

[heavy narwhal]

I'm a fan of bartering in the real world. So it should be in agame

[brisk ivy]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/palia/images/9/97/Palia_ConceptShimmerFlies.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210604184048

[lofty tiger]

Having to trade manually sucks, that’s going back to the Stone Age

[safe fern]

Yup, prosthetic limb and goggles is a sure mechanic vibe

[brisk ivy]

I think that guy with the cap is that guy, but not sure.

[heavy narwhal]

That's why I'm suggesting a barter system

[queen plume]

I wonder if there will be a animal farming option

[regal swallow]

I got a song stuck in your head?

[void imp]

pure imagination and i'll make a man out of you because of your gifs

[regal swallow]

Oh lol

[void imp]

also hello beautiful people good to see you again

[gentle birch]

I hope so, I asked about it in the first Q&A but it wasn't touched on yet. In the unofficial FAQ, they mentioned that they have discussed it, I think. Been a while since I looked at it.

[void imp]

have a nice [insert time of day]

[bright forge]

Hello

[regal swallow]

Memories make us smiles

Anyways I'll be anyone's PAL as I keep saying

[void imp]

https://tenor.com/view/elephant-shrew-gif-10256105

[clear prism]

Hello there

[celest maple]

that thing is rare!

[ember badge]

Hello!! 💕

[bright forge]

Hey guys I was searching thru questions and may people ask if there will be daily rewards for longing in. What do you think about that mechanic? I personally think this mechanic is a bad sign. If game need to offer daily rewards for just logging it means that gameplay is not good enough to keep you interested in coming back day by day.

[regal swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[clear prism]

https://tenor.com/view/general-kenobi-turn-around-star-wars-gif-15335963

[regal swallow]

Prieston followed the Bro Code

[thorny dune]

Or it's just a bit extra for people who log in and enjoy playing daily

[brisk ivy]

I think daily login rewards aren't needed if you have a farm on your plot of land or something.

[little silo]

Oh-no! Non Palia gifs! Somebody call the fun police!

[carmine relic]

Sorry, police line broke,

[left pebble]

Totally had missed the mechanic leg!

The big glasses give me aviator vibes

[regal swallow]

Let's have an adventure to the library today! To find out more about Grimalkin Culture

[safe fern]

It's a bit hidden yeah ^^

[brisk ivy]

Some games use login rewards as a way to get players to login and see their guild messages. Player home stuff though would achieve the same thing.

[bright forge]

I don't mean daily quests or something to do every day I mean a reward for just log in.

[maiden nymph]

Hello everyone, hope you're all having a great day

[little silo]

So whats the topic of today's heresy?

[celest maple]

https://www.etymonline.com/word/grimalkin#etymonline_v_11977

[little silo]

-I mean discussion

[bright forge]

Log in rewards

[little silo]

Ah

[left pebble]

Interesting lecture today!
grabs his cloak
Anyone else coming?

[safe fern]

Yeah bad sign, floods inventory with stuff I don't want usually

[void imp]

hiya!

[little silo]

I see, heresy of the highest magnitude

[carmine relic]

Too lazy to go, can I just copy your notes?

[brisk ivy]

The only things I don't really like about login rewards is when they give you stuff that encourages you to make multiple accounts to harvest stuff to sell to other players or funnel into one account. When you need to farm multiple accounts daily, that gets old fast.

[little silo]

Good ol' FOMO mechanics. Are people actively encouraging them to add them?

[regal swallow]

I'll provide a copy of what we learn today!

[left pebble]

Sure thing!

[carmine relic]

Yaaay

At least it isn't Boundless forcing you to play half an hour per day to claim your daily reward

[bright forge]

I mean daily quests are fine and something to do changing every day is fun but typically game don't need build in daily rewards for just being in game if it's good.

[left pebble]

On the topic of taking notes, it'd be neat to get the wiki going for real

[maiden nymph]

It depends on what target goals are set by investors, usually you have to balance your game mechanics and user satisfaction with the demands from the investors, that's where systems like login bonus come in play since it increases the game activity with increase the company/game value

[carmine relic]

A wiki would be nice when the game is 100% publicly availbable

[little silo]

Id much rather see cumulative catch-up mechanics than daily login rewards

More carrot, less stick

[bright forge]

I think we will need to wait until no NDA than we will have enough info for wiki

[left pebble]

Personally i think it's a great way to keep track of lore

[clear prism]

My cat is dirty...

Asshole decided to sleep in a trashbin

Cozy place apparently

[maiden nymph]

Dirty to you, but the cat is feeling like the star of the avenue with all that animal poop smell

[carmine relic]

You're lucky they didn't eat garbage, too

[left pebble]

Ah yes in terms of in depth content we don't have much, but keeping a history of reveals and everything is easier done there

[little silo]

Let the investors pressure that kind of thing, if players start asking for it, devs may make a poor decision for the wrong reason

[brisk ivy]

There's a wiki that I've seen, but it's only useful for looking up concept art.

[clear prism]

My previous cat did that.

[carmine relic]

Man. I wish I had a cat to sit in my lap and pet.

[arctic onyx]

login rewards in the form of extra currency or materials is fine

[worldly lily]

Cats never sit where you want them to

[bright forge]

are they?

[maiden nymph]

The issue is, you won't see a MMO without Investor involvement since it's "high risk", the question is just how much of what systems are implmented to compromise for everyone.

[little silo]

Did your previous cat have tusks and a flat face and bushy tail? Your chat may have been a Chappa

[autumn portal]

I have 3 cats, unrelated to that I have never owned clothes that are not full of cat hair

[worldly lily]

mine tends to sit on my keyboard when I am online

[arctic onyx]

as long as said mats are easily accessible

[bright forge]

How is your ear?

[clear prism]

I think login rewards are needed. Same as daily events.
So that I could play as in Guild Wars 2 just to casually enter the game, take the rewards and do a couple of dragon bosses for dailies

[little silo]

We already know this game has investors, of which we are not among them. I don't think we should give them bad ideas though!

[autumn portal]

Is just as bad :( made an appointment in 2 days though >.>

[clear prism]

Same here, but no dragon bosses early on. So just login rewards.

[arctic onyx]

idk how that would be seen as an advantage, it's just a bonus to get you to login every day

[umbral ferry]

Ew login rewards

[little silo]

Rested XP > Login rewards

[brisk ivy]

What if the login rewards are only used for special cosmetic currency that is account-bound?

[umbral ferry]

What if we don't use addictive mechanisms

[worldly lily]

I just hope this game does not turn into a pay to play game

[arctic onyx]

account wide progression for achievements and cosmetics > anything else

[regal swallow]

Shrew rewards to give out to Pals

[maiden nymph]

I'm pretty sure they also want to make the best possible game for everyone actually playing 🙂 I'm just a a bit realistic from my expirience working in and with people of the game industry

[autumn portal]

Being addictive is sort of a key element of mmos I think

[thorny dune]

I don't really see daily log-ins as addictive mechanisms, like someone said above they play more to a person's fear of missing out

[umbral ferry]

Forms a habit

[arctic onyx]

not a bad one tho?

[umbral ferry]

Kinda bad if you feel you have to login just to not miss out

[arctic onyx]

you're not gambling loot boxes

[little silo]

I understand your motive, but I, in my opinion, don't believe FOMO mechanics are an ethical option

[arctic onyx]

you're clicking one button

[thorny dune]

If you're not logging in you're not playing the game anyway 😂

[regal swallow]

Dont create too many systems is my standpoint

[brisk ivy]

RNG drop rates also can be addictive, but that stuff is almost an MMORPG staple.

[bright forge]

It is a bad one you just log in for reward and not because you like the game

[thorny dune]

missing out is not playing, not getting 5 pieces of lumber

[umbral ferry]

Login rewards are i games because developers know it's never just that. Once you've started the game you're way more liekly to stay in it for a while than to just quit again

[autumn portal]

I once played a text based mafia game, every day at midnight you'd have to quickly buy a new protection service otherwise people could rob you for millions, so at midnight people would spam names to see who missed out on protection with a mere second, I had to leave that game due to that

[arctic onyx]

what?

[bright forge]

I know it sound crazy but this how it works

[umbral ferry]

Anyway, while to a good bunch of people it can act as increasing playtime, personally I find login rewards annoying. Means I feel I have to start the game even if I don't feel like playing. Do that enough and I won't even feel like playing anymore. (though that effect is stronger for "dailies" you shouldn't miss out on, essentially made me quit playing Genshin and AC:NH)

[thorny dune]

I mean, in the first place I don't even think Palia would need a login reward system due to what the game seems to play around with

[regal swallow]

My fellow Pals and the wholesome of the game makes me calm and happy

[little silo]

Yes its literally using psychology to trick player to play more. Insidious, even by my standards

[brisk ivy]

Anyways, home gardening is a daily login reward. Change my mind!

[thorny dune]

You don't have to log in if you don't feel like playing.

[little silo]

Just make a game i WANT to waste my time in.

[umbral ferry]

And by not logging in I'm missing out on 50 lumber that I later have to grind instead

[little silo]

Thats all the incentive needd

[maiden nymph]

I personally prefere monthly based quests, especially community based ones. Since you're actually working towards something, and you could make the unique to the month so the January Monthly is different then the April Monthly

[thorny dune]

You don't have to grind that resource or reward, either.

[maiden nymph]

oh sorry for the mention above @autumn portal

[arctic onyx]

A game should make you want to waste your time. However, a game shouldn't make you feel like you're wasting your time.

[umbral ferry]

Sure, I can just sit around in the game and not craft anything I guess :p

[thorny dune]

I mean on days you want to play, you get the daily reward.
On days you don't, you don't.

[safe fern]

Lol agreed, sunshine and fresh air and maybe some tomatoes if I do it right this year

[celest maple]

What day does the game come out?

[arctic onyx]

nobody knows

[celest maple]

I have only linux installed nowadays. I hope so much that there will be a possibility for me to play the game without installing windows or buying a mac.

[umbral ferry]

Yes, but theres the notion that I should login so I don't miss the reward, because otherwise later on I have to use time to get what I got from the reward instead. And usually more time than it takes to "justl ogin"

[thorny dune]

I'm not arguing for or against such a system by the way, but the main point was that every game with a login system is a bad game and other people have an issue with it because it causes them to feel addicted or feel like they're missing out

[bright forge]

But it almost evey single time come with a Combo rewards for logging day by day

[umbral ferry]

Ah, yeah, thats extra bad 😂

"Login for every day in these 30 days or you won't get the big reward at the end!"

[little silo]

Yes! Exactly!

[thorny dune]

Yeah, but while everything is just speculation right now it's hard to dismiss an entire system as just bad entirely

[arctic onyx]

also I beg for Palia to get a mobile client down the line, so I can do my daily quests or life skilling on the go

[umbral ferry]

Anyway, if you like the game, you don't need login rewards. Otherwise they just act as a trick to get you to play more

[thorny dune]

If you like the game you login every day regardless

[umbral ferry]

Exactly, so you don't need a reward for it

[thorny dune]

Daily rewards in games you're not playing don't affect you

[umbral ferry]

?

[maiden nymph]

Daily rewards can affect you especially if it is combined with cosmentics that require you to login for 60 days streight

[worldly lily]

If there is going to be a "world chat" option I hope it is regulated so there are no spam fights everyone has to watch

[thorny dune]

Like trade chat? 😂

[celest maple]

Is Palia in Spanish or only in English? o.o

[little silo]

Big false.

[thorny dune]

Only in English as of now

[arctic onyx]

English so far

[celest maple]

ooh

[thorny dune]

That's your own personal issue

[celest maple]

okey

[worldly lily]

yes I hate spam wars in trade or world chat so annoying

[carmine relic]

If I see trades spammed in the world-chat, I'm making garbage offers

[arctic onyx]

Palia proximity voice chat would be so much fun

[cyan narwhal]

Portuguese

[little silo]

No, its provable.

[thorny dune]

I think they did mention wanting to do something with other languages at some point

[heavy narwhal]

Yes.

[brisk ivy]

When I don't like a game, I don't bother with the daily login rewards, but I will admit that there are days I simply cannot log in.

[maiden nymph]

They are adding it when the game will be released or maybe before that, but this pre-alpha and maybe the alpha will be english only

[thorny dune]

DM me papers, that sounds like an interesting read

[celest maple]

oh good

[bright forge]

Daily rewards are not bad on first glace but they make a habit of longing in even when you don't want to. It doesn't mean you stop liking the game but you fell pressured to do something and it's bad to me.

[celest maple]

okey thanks

[carmine relic]

Yeah, I can agree on that. Felt it first-hand

[umbral ferry]

Well, you can say that to pretty much anything though. Don't like PvP? Thats your own personal issue. If you don't play the game, PvP in it doesn't affect you

[brisk ivy]

Wait, what style of daily logins we talking about? Like the ones where every month you start off with a clean slate?

[proven temple]

There's games that have daily login rewards where you do not lose progress of the rewards if you don't log in one of the days.

[little silo]

You have no interest in reading about it if you are going to dismiss it so readily, why should I do that work for you?