💬│palia-discussions

[quick dove]

I don't think they were expecting people to jump at the chance for a chill mmo for once

[languid dune]

yeah that is basically the lottery at that point lol

[mystic gale]

I heard over 200K signups

Meaning each of us would have only about half a percent chance to get in

[languid dune]

Well hopefully after they see all the people who want to play the game they will open it up a lot more???

[mystic gale]

They'll open it up more in future alpha/beta phases I'm sure, but it's typical to start small at first

[languid dune]

yeah i guess

[haughty dew]

First test will be 1400 ppl

[quick dove]

Lets just hope to god a Hytale doesn't happen lmao

[mystic gale]

And as for when, we don't know yet but they'll announce in advance when they expect to send out pre-alpha invites

[haughty dew]

so say 0.2 - 0.5% chance

[languid dune]

yeha lol

will people be allowed to post game play on you tube or no?

[haughty dew]

nope

[lofty tiger]

I gave up hope for hytale. With Palia, I don’t care about hytale anymore

[mystic gale]

All the testers will be under NDAs

[quick dove]

not the first alpha minimum

[haughty dew]

It will be under NDA so you aren't even allowed to talk about it with others

[mystic gale]

Except for other testers

[quick dove]

fair game, Im still watching it but yeah

[haughty dew]

yeah in the locked tester channels here on discord for example

[stark quest]

I mean, with my name, I can only hope. XD

[languid dune]

Dang I hope I get in then that would be awesome

[mystic gale]

Hey Mikki!

[stark quest]

Also, hi @mystic gale!

[mystic gale]

And yeah, you're really trying to plant suggestions with that name XD

[lofty tiger]

Considering hytale isn’t really a mmo, Palia fits my bill way more

[stark quest]

I've had this as my alias for years. I am always hearing 'Alpha' when it pops up in various places... x.x

Also.. I really should have had some form of dinner hours ago. O.o

[mystic gale]

Well then you're lucky it just so happens to hopefully double as a prediction. XD

[haughty dew]

maby the devs like irony and put you in the beta

[mystic gale]

Oh lord, what are you doing? Why haven't you eaten?

[stark quest]

I MUST AWAY!!! For food.

[mystic gale]

I'll share some of my pizza.

[stark quest]

A game... then the dev doing a stream event for said game. 😐

[languid dune]

I just made pretzals

Lmao they were great

[stark quest]

Then finishing managing the game that I need to for the day...

Recently added new content means more management. 😩

[mystic gale]

Welp, that'll suck up your time all right. Gogo, eat! Mangia!

[fringe minnow]

Well, there's a mistery right under our noses right now, the streams locked vc

[stark quest]

Yessir! o7

Okay, water is on the stove... Macaroni and cheese in process!

[mystic gale]

Mmmm nice. I almost did that exact same thing tonight, until I decided to be lazy.

[stark quest]

Then? Maybe some Stardew. Maybe something else.

[languid dune]

Stardew valley is a great game

[stark quest]

This is me being lazy... or tired. I need to not use lazy to describe myself. x.x

[mystic gale]

Haha. I used lazy, but in this case it was apt. I mean, not even wanting to make mac and cheese.

[stark quest]

It's buying in to the dismissal of my actual issues when I say lazy is all. x.x

Already get external gaslighting toward that end.

[mystic gale]

Oh jeez, really? That's bad and unfair.

[stark quest]

It is. And I need to move out to get away from it, but my situation and those issues don't exactly make that an easy task.

[mystic gale]

I know how that can be. I've been in similar situations before. But you can do it!

And you'll get yourself a better situation.

[stark quest]

Thinks always work out somehow in some way for me. It's just taking a ridiculously long time and waiting around the things I can do, which isn't much currently, is a pain. 😩

[patent adder]

I didn't really read all the convo but I hope things work out ☺️

[stark quest]

Also part of my expressed frustration with the streaming stuff before. Because it has been literally the only thing that has brought anything in by my own power for a while... so when I'm struggling to find the resources (energy, mainly) for even that, I get a bit discouraged. 😅

[stark quest]

Thanks. Also hoping! Lol

[mystic gale]

I can't imagine how that all must feel, but I sympathize. I'm sure even though it's taking time, you'll make it through and be in a better place. And meanwhile at least I'll watch your streams!

[stark quest]

Which I'll try to get started here soon. XD Even if it's just for a little while. That's my goal for me, at least. lol

[ornate pilot]

-+

[mystic gale]

Small goals are great for making you feel like a winner every day even when they're extremely modest. XD

[stark quest]

Gives me a sense of accomplishment for at least being somewhat consistent, even if it's not the end goal of consistency. 😂

[mystic gale]

Exactly.

[stark quest]

Mmm.... macaroni and cheese...

https://tenor.com/view/macandcheese-canneverhaveenough-food-yummy-nomnomnom-gif-4385506

[mystic gale]

Has there ever been a more true gif?

[stark quest]

My late uncle would call me Mac growing up.

Actually, he never really stopped. 🤔

[mystic gale]

AlphaMac

[stark quest]

Probably would call me Mac still from the aether just to make sure I knew it was him.

Even though my name doesn't have a c in it whatsoever. 😂

[mystic gale]

Well if anyone ever does a seance you know how to tell if the medium is just pulling your leg.

[stark quest]

If he's the one to come through...

We're living in his old house now though. And we would get back at him by calling him Uncle Bully too. 😂

[mystic gale]

True, it could be an old gypsy who put a curse on you like in Drag Me to Hell.

[stark quest]

He did like to spoil us kids though. Also made up for it.

Nah, even I know how to protect myself and the energy around me.

[mystic gale]

It sounds like you had a really nice relationship with him; I'm sorry you lost him.

[stark quest]

I may not be an expert and still need to learn to trust my intuition, but I know enough...

He was fun, for sure.

I did end up having a very validating experience somewhat recently. Was around my mom's birthday and I swear my grandma came through... I just felt it as soon as I pulled the Queen of Wands from my Witch's Tarot... and I've pulled it before at other times, so...

Because it just made me think of how it embodied her in that moment...

A matriarch with the power and virility of fire! Definitely was her. ❤️

Later on, my mom and I were also watching a documentary on Queen Elizabeth, and all the synchronicity was just so validating to the 'downloads' I was getting that evening. XD

[mystic gale]

It's really cool that you're able to feel connected to her in that way! It's got to be so comforting and familiar.

[stark quest]

It was subtle enough, but just the fact that my thoughts were going the way they were reassured me that it wasn't just something random.

And I am in such need of relearning to trust myself and my experiences as it is, so that's another reason it meant so much to me.

[mystic gale]

Yeah, if an experience like that can inform you and strengthen you in ways you need in the present time, then it's really valuable.

[stark quest]

I think I had a more natural innate ability to start with, but learned to shut it off pretty early on, even while it was still trying to come through.

[shut hinge]

Not to intrude in the convo but gypsy is actually a slur

[stark quest]

The origin of the word, yes.

[mystic gale]

Sorry, didn't intend it that way, it was a movie reference.

[shut hinge]

Nah it’s fine most people don’t actually know I just happen to be romani so I always let people know

[stark quest]

Language does evolve. I acknowledge when the evolution of a word has changed enough that it no longer quite means the same... in English at least.

However, there are times when it has a remaining definition or connotation in another language, and if I'm not as familiar with it then, then I can't profess much expertise on it. 😅

[mystic gale]

I just defer to whatever people prefer to be called.

[stark quest]

Like when people tell me Disney isn't anime after I had seen it on Anime shelves in stores in Japan... >.>

Disney animation, that is. 🙃

[shut hinge]

I can assure you it’s still one and my people don’t like it at all. It’s all good though Eighty I educate I don’t hate

I’ll get a t shirt with it on

[mystic gale]

Ha, yeah Japan doesn't categorize animated stuff by country of origin like we do.

[stark quest]

I'll refrain from utilizing it where I can as well...

Although one of my favorite horse breeds has few names, and Gypsy is used for a couple of them...

[shut hinge]

They are changing the names of those horses I believe some of them are already renamed interestingly enough

[stark quest]

Irish Cob is the one name of the breed I know without it.

[shut hinge]

Yeah I just happened to read about such a thing happening

[stark quest]

I was not aware of that occurrence, personally, so it's nice to hear that there's a change being made.

[heavy falcon]

Morning everyone!

[mystic gale]

Morning!

[stark quest]

Evening! o/ lol

[shut hinge]

Yeah there’s been a big push for that word being removed from all sorts of things actually

As it’s only really gained mainstream attention in the last two years

[stark quest]

Makes sense. And yeah, I figured it was super recent.

[upbeat kite]

is it 1 more week until pre alpha emails get sent?

[stark quest]

I mean, I live under a rock anyway, but still...

[mystic gale]

Ironic that we have movements to try to remove slurs from our language but at the same time, those old divisions seem to be on the rise.

[shut hinge]

I’m not sure it’s any different now to how it’s always been it’s just there’s more accessibility for those with divisive views to have a platform.

[mystic gale]

Could just be that.

[stark quest]

I think that overall, there is a lot of changing energy that is pushing for more of the communication and compassion. It's just still being drowned out by the loudness of the opposition.

[shut hinge]

Anyway I’m excited to see the new villager

[wooden widget]

Horse is Horse, Cat is Cat, they all taste the same on the plate

[stark quest]

😐

Then we have individuals making statements like this...

[haughty dew]

Horse meat is realy realy good

[stark quest]

Like... read the room.

[shut hinge]

I’ve been bitten by a horse

It let me go though so I probbaly lacked seasoning

[stark quest]

I've been bitten by a baby horse. lol

[mystic gale]

A Møøse once bit my sister...

[wooden widget]

Did read the room or well like i rolled nat 1 on everything relevant but still attempt was made

[shut hinge]

That sounds like the most Canadian way to go, death by moose

[stark quest]

I mean... I may just be without context, but it felt like the sort of statement someone makes to try and get a rise out of people. Rather than just being socially inept. x.x

[shut hinge]

I’m confused

[wooden widget]

It was one of the least problematic jokes that rise up whilst reading chats

[stark quest]

You'll have to excuse me calling something like that out even if it wasn't intended. Have seen plenty of people try and feign ignorance while knowing exactly what they're doing...

[shut hinge]

I feel like I don’t get why their statement was offensive

[stark quest]

Probably because some of that sort of humor has been normalized.

[wooden widget]

theres different folks in world, some like things some dont like things and some dont care etc

[stark quest]

And that's what has me on the fence about it...

[shut hinge]

No it’s not that I legit just didn’t really understand the point of what was said

[mystic gale]

It was a joke about names for things all being the same with a joke about eating horses and cats that I think Mikki found in poor taste, that's all

As someone who just mentioned being interested in horses

[stark quest]

I've seen statements made about eating certain animals that were actually aimed to be controversial because of the judgement certain cultures have gotten from it. Again, it's something that rubbed me wrong because of how it came off... and that has often gotten me in trouble because I 'couldn't take a joke' or something...

[shut hinge]

See kids this is why you just eat humans

[wooden widget]

There was a topic here about that yesterday or something

[stark quest]

Funny enough, I actually find this humorous given the context.

[shut hinge]

Not that I would ever eat anyone as I’m completely human and not at all a vampire

[stark quest]

It's the underlying connotations that end up being present that are insensitive to cultures where people have used that premise to be bigoted or racist or whatever... that's what makes me scratch my head about someone's intentions behind such statements.

[wooden widget]

Aight magic human, keep your secrets

[shut hinge]

Why I’m not sure what would give anyone the impression that I’m a vampire

[stark quest]

The moniker is just for show, after all. Not a title or label whatsoever!

[wooden widget]

could be the well maintained Dental Hygene?

[mystic gale]

covers up fangs

[stark quest]

disappointed

[harsh forge]

Or a well maintained anti-sunburn?

[shut hinge]

I do have a wonderfully pale complexion

[mystic gale]

But I thought sensitive vampires were all the rage these days

[wooden widget]

last i checked it was sparkly kind

[stark quest]

What are you talking about? Protecting your skin from the sun is something all humans should be concerned about.

[shut hinge]

So anyway what blood type is everyone asking for a friend

[stark quest]

Vampires aren't the only ones with fangs. 😼

[stark quest]

You know, I don't even know. x.x

[mystic gale]

How very true. So many different ways to bite and be bitten.

[shut hinge]

You should find out! Like jokes aside it’s pretty important to know.

[stark quest]

Should see my search status on FFXIV. 😂

[mystic gale]

curiosity intensifies

[stark quest]

My doc should definitely have documents on it, but I always forget to ask.

[harsh forge]

Ooh don't get me wrong! I've been working on my nerd-burn for quite some years. But I am not a vampire.. Just a simple gamer 🤔

[naive vessel]

From personal experience blood tastes horrible from living humans, it's best just to order some 0- from the web

[mystic gale]

I'm "guy in my D&D game pulls me aside after game night to give me the business card for his tanning salon" levels of pale.

[wooden widget]

How disgusting, where!?

[shut hinge]

Why would I... I’m just a simple tomato salesman.

[mystic gale]

Yes, that actually happened.

[naive vessel]

Honest to god I thing you can order blood from ebay or somewhere

[stark quest]

I like my pale complexion, but am also very low maintenance, so... yes. Gamer tan. 😂

[mystic gale]

Saaaaame.

[naive vessel]

I never seen the sun before

[stark quest]

I would intercept it and tear it up.

[naive vessel]

they say you can't look at it for too long so I didn't bother checking

[mystic gale]

He's a cop, so I'm not quite bold enough for that, but I did toss it after. ;^_^

[stark quest]

Then I'll just be the one to risk getting in trouble on your behalf. I did say I'd intercept it. lol

More like I'd take it before he could give it to you and rip it up. 😂

[mystic gale]

My hero!

[stark quest]

I'm that kind of friend. You're welcome.

Okay, I might need to have the confidence for it... BUT THE THOUGHT IS THERE AT LEAST!

Ziva would do it.

[shut hinge]

Who’s that your sock puppet?

[mystic gale]

One day I will meet Ziva!

[stark quest]

My D&D and every other game I play character.

[mystic gale]

One day soon when the boundaries between our DCs fall away.

[stark quest]

She will be my envoy to Palia.

[dusky spruce]

Oh, Age have you made sure you're not vitamin d deficient?

[stark quest]

That too. 😂

There are a few other alts of Ziva, but none on Crystal.

[shut hinge]

Data centres... ff14 detected

[stark quest]

😉

[mystic gale]

Correct

[stark quest]

Guess who my pfp is... lol

[dusky spruce]

I always worry about that with people that can't/don't get outside a lot :(

[shut hinge]

Imagine playing on crystal 😅

[mystic gale]

My pfp is also my FFXIV character, though it's an art commission I had done of him.

[stark quest]

My main is on Primal.

[mystic gale]

I honestly have no idea, but I should probably find out.

[stark quest]

I need to get some commissions or do something myself...

[wooden widget]

at evening/night best time to go outside

[stark quest]

Only problem is my lack of digital graphic skills. x.x

[shut hinge]

I play in matues in Crystal myself

[dusky spruce]

As someone with photosensitivity yes, I agree. The sun is evil.

[stark quest]

I cannot, for the life of me, get used to my drawing tablet. I need a graphics tablet because I move my 'canvas' around too much for optimal angles when drawing. 😭

[mystic gale]

I've actually got a bunch of art pieces of my main done!

[stark quest]

I'm better with a mouse, and even then... it's so so.

[wooden widget]

I can still praise the sun at night, its just more of a long distance relationship.

[dusky spruce]

I feel that, if you can, wait until XP pens go on sale

[mystic gale]

And what's wrong with playing on Crystal?

[shut hinge]

It was but a meme I said after I played on matues myself

[dusky spruce]

I got mine earlier in the year and it's been absolutely amazing

[stark quest]

I mean, even my original world wasn't chosen for the Crystal DC migration... I started on Jenova.

Mateus, yes? lol

[mystic gale]

Crystal isn't really any different from the other DCs, maybe a little rougher in raids because all the skill players who used to be on Balmung fled when they did the server migrations in the first place

[dusky spruce]

Wait, Mikki, what program do you use if I may ask?

[stark quest]

You also have... hehehe Balmung. XD

[mystic gale]

Buuuuut that's all going to change when DC visit opens

That's where I am, Mikki.

[stark quest]

It came with the CLIP studio, but I didn't use much at all to begin with...

[stark quest]

Huehuehuehue...

I'm a meme... I have to meme. XD

[dusky spruce]

Oh, if you ever need help just ask! I've used CSP since it was manga studio

[shut hinge]

Nah Crystal is completely different to pretty much all the other data centres but it’s mostly because it’s become the rp data centre so it’s not a bad difference but it is different

[stark quest]

Because of Balmung. 🙃

[shut hinge]

Originally but that wasn’t the case for years

[mystic gale]

I mean I have alts on both Crystal and Aether, they really aren't that different. Aether has plenty of bad players

[stark quest]

I appreciate this.

[stark quest]

I still have alts on Aether.

[shut hinge]

Mateus has had a big rp community for years and then when they opened up travel it spread to the others

[stark quest]

Basically, if you search the Lodestone for Ziva Nainodel and Mika Hikaze, you can find all my characters.

[mystic gale]

Mateus' RP community sprang up because Balmung was closed to character creation for 3 years

[dusky spruce]

If only I still played ;^; but it's hard to without people to interact with

[shut hinge]

Well that and it was a lot of people who left balmung because they found the rp there too strict

[stark quest]

Shoot... I didn't log off of my main job last. Now my relatively canonical glam isn't displayed! >.<

[stark quest]

Thus, I must meme about it.

[mystic gale]

That's one way of saying it. Another is that people got driven off Balmung because they were shitters XD

[dusky spruce]

Lmao

[mystic gale]

And landed on Mateus

[shut hinge]

Nah I remember the exodus it was a lot of balmung people being elitists

[stark quest]

So glad I wasn't a part of all that. ^_^

[mystic gale]

It was some of that, but it was also a lot of people who got a bad rep in the community and fled.

People who got called out for being creepy to female players, etc.

[stark quest]

Players or characters?

[shut hinge]

That’s going to be present in every community and I’m ngl I’ve had worse experiences with balmung people for that

[mystic gale]

Yes.

[stark quest]

Thought so.

[mystic gale]

That's because Balmung is the largest server by a significant margin.

[shut hinge]

Though mostly I find the creepy messages get sent to men in ff14

It was a culture shock from other mmos

[mystic gale]

Thing is though, the environment in Balmung got a lot worse when World Visit happened.

[dusky spruce]

Luckily you can track them down on lodestone and block their accounts yeah?

[wooden widget]

wait men get attention!?

[shut hinge]

On ff14 yes

[wooden widget]

Oh boy, brb.

[stark quest]

Especially if you have a tail.

[dusky spruce]

Once endwalker drops Miqo'Te are done for lmao

[stark quest]

Also, now that they finally caved and are adding male viera...

I might not mind a bunboi. >.>

[compact ravine]

Hey, hello people, how are ya?

[mystic gale]

Anyway Balmung gets memed a lot and sure there's a big RP community there and some of that is lewd stuff, but by and large the main difference is just more people.

[dusky spruce]

Catboy extinction button.jpg

[stark quest]

I still think the male miqo'te have the all time best /joy emote ever though.

[shut hinge]

It helps that ff14 also has one of the larger populations of the gays.tm and I welcome it

[mystic gale]

And the funny thing is a lot of the lewd traffic comes from Wanderers.

[dusky spruce]

Oh no

[stark quest]

So you know they're from other worlds. hahaha!

Trying to skate by on their anonymity, huh? IT WON'T WORK!

[mystic gale]

Yup!

[dusky spruce]

Yucky

[shut hinge]

Well a lot of them are level 1 lol so it might actually still be balmungers on erp Alts

[mystic gale]

Nah.

[dusky spruce]

Oh jeez

[stark quest]

So... creation of new characters is currently available on Ultros. 😎

[shut hinge]

I mean it’s entirely possible I’m sure a lot of them are from my server though

[mystic gale]

Plenty of them are established alts.

[stark quest]

But not for Mateus or Balmung. Mwahahaha!

[dusky spruce]

This brings up memories of gold shire on moonguard.....

[little tendon]

you guys have any guesses for how soon the closed beta will be?

[shut hinge]

That’s because balmung quicksands is goldshire sadly

[wooden widget]

This thing be rather expensive, I think i rather start saving for Palia.

[stark quest]

I have friends on Coerl though. They have suggested I transfer, but I have a great FC I consider family, so tough luck to them.

[shut hinge]

Ours used to be really bad untill world visit now it’s empty

[mystic gale]

It was actually hilarious, because in the weeks after World Visit opened up, you had all kinds of people flooding the server from other worlds, being trolls in shout chat. "Hi Balmung you bunch of degenerates I'm here to laugh at the erp server ha ha ha." And they'd troll shout for awhile, but then like... an hour later? You'd see that same person tucked away in a corner of Ul'dah with a naked catgirl, being very quiet.

[stark quest]

Wow. Someone's bold to ask about post pre alpha.

[dusky spruce]

I- Balmung'd

[shut hinge]

We have no idea when pre alpha is let alone closed beta

[mystic gale]

So most of the memeing is just for show and really they just want it for themselves. XD

[shut hinge]

I believe anyway

[little tendon]

🙂

[stark quest]

Like, don't be a degenerate for the one thing you actually 'respect' there.

Like when the chauvinistic pigs use different names for lady parts as a derogatory name. x.x

[mystic gale]

We just ignore them for the most part. XD

[stark quest]

When it's the one thing they actually 'appreciate' about us. 😒

[wooden widget]

just out of curiosity, a spider can be technicly a pet right?

[stark quest]

Of course.

[shut hinge]

sweats in English yeah haah who’d use such a word

[mystic gale]

Yeeeeeah, there are a lot of assholes out there sadly.

[dusky spruce]

Yes

[wooden widget]

what if its just random spider that liked to get their photo taken?

[stark quest]

Hey, talking about the ones who are excessive about it. I get that there is some cultural banter otherwise.

[mystic gale]

All things considered though, I think the FFXIV community in general is nicer than on other MMOs I've played.

[stark quest]

Ask Lucas.

[dusky spruce]

I'd spoiler tag it in case of people with arachnophobia though

[shut hinge]

Tbh the c word has lost most of its meaning here and my mum uses it all the time

But yeah I wouldn’t ever say it in American settings lol I’ve learned my lesson

[mystic gale]

It's true, there are places where that word gets dropped a lot more

[dusky spruce]

I call my cat that as a term of half anger half endearment when she chews my chargers :')

[mystic gale]

I mean, then your cat just had it coming.

[shut hinge]

I have pretty crippling arachnophobia so I might cry and piss

[dusky spruce]

I feel you Vamp

[wooden widget]

Spoilering it then, thanks

[stark quest]

Good thing I didn't post a Lucas GIF then.

[shut hinge]

Haha it’s appreciated

[stark quest]

I mean, I could, but I would try and edit it into spoiler tags as quickly as I could...

Or I could post it in some other server and copy and paste it within the spoiler tags... 🤔

[mystic gale]

Some people say they would want to live in Eorzea or whatever other fantasy world they like. I'm like, "Nah man, there are spiders the size of Volkswagens there. I'm good."

[dusky spruce]

As long as you do | | at the start and end it should work

[shut hinge]

Yeah but also roe women so really I’m willing to put up with it

[mystic gale]

Like, if I saw one of those daddy longlegs in the shroud that's as tall as a teenager and its whole body is a mouth? I'd just give up. I'd lie down on the ground and just give up.

[stark quest]

And with all the ||rejoinings|| calamities going on...

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, my girlfriend desperately wants to play just for the roegadyn

[shut hinge]

I do hope we get more races than human for this game eventually the elves look really rad in this game after all

[stark quest]

Ziva is originally a Moon Elf, so I hope so as well.

[mystic gale]

I mean, yeah, I guess stuff like that is normal to those people. But not to me!

[stark quest]

Exactly. Not our normal.

[shut hinge]

I was very sad when I found out we couldn’t be a golem like einar

[mystic gale]

I have a feeling humans might be all we get since the story is centered on their return.

[stark quest]

Maybe normal enough for Ziva, but not for Mikki.

[wooden widget]

Human could be many things still right, vampire, werewolf manbearpig...

[shut hinge]

It’s bad but I honestly get bored when a games options in fantasy settings is just human

[stark quest]

I say I hope for more, but I only half hope. I am actually quite okay with the idea of humans only for player characters.

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, I'd like racial options

[stark quest]

Maybe... tribal options?

[mystic gale]

Yeah, me too. And supposedly the customization options for the humans in Palia are quite extensive!

[stark quest]

Like the 'sub race' concept.

[ember inlet]

they are working on elves

[shut hinge]

No that was a mix up

Sadly

[mystic gale]

They didn't mean they would be playable, that was a faq mistake

[dusky spruce]

Mostly because the 22 years I've spent as a human have sucked and maybe if I had big elf energy™️ things would be better

[stark quest]

Which is good as well. They don't have to worry about the options for other races, so all the focus can be on the customization variations for the one.

[dusky spruce]

True

[ember inlet]

no humans for alpha but they are working on elves for full game

[mystic gale]

No, that was a mixup

[stark quest]

Just be a cooler 'human' in your games.

[dusky spruce]

If we do get only humans I hope for mega customization possibility

[wooden widget]

sunglasses at night.

[shut hinge]

Like elf ears give me elf ears

[stark quest]

Exactly.

Ziva will stick to the mask no matter.

[dusky spruce]

laughs in live vicariously through video games chwonic iwness

[mystic gale]

Yeah they said we'd get a lot of customization for our legendary humans.

[dusky spruce]

Heck yes

I hope we can choose like... hair parts....

[stark quest]

We'll have a whole ward of players just plugging into the video games because of this.

[plush delta]

Finished donut!!!

[mystic gale]

Also I'm looking forward to lioness girls more than bunny boys, but sadly I have to wait longer for those.

[dusky spruce]

Let me just stick myself into the game, thanks

Plug me in miss ma'am

[stark quest]

I'm curious about the lady ronso as well... but what can I say? I'm a hetero woman... I am happy for pretty bois...

Raha number one husbando...

[mystic gale]

Can't blame you there! Do you have an NPC you lust after? Like Aymeric or Emet-Selch or Zenos like most of the ladies

[stark quest]

cough I mean whut. 😐

[mystic gale]

Aha, that was my question

[stark quest]

Aymeric was number one for a time before.

[dusky spruce]

Oh geez, so uh, off topic but uhm, if any of you ever experience severe headaches, 3ye pain and sight difficulty with no other explanation medically see a neurologist and eye doctor, because IIH is a thing and it's bad

[iron pagoda]

I feel sexualised!

[celest maple]

How enter un Alpha?

[plush delta]

Pfft imagine getting a husbando instead of a waifu

[sand barn]

[stark quest]

But are you my preferred aesthetic of pretty boi?

[mystic gale]

See I feel like Aymeric was exposed during the Grand Melee when a one-armed Raubahn planted him in the ground like a tree.

[dusky spruce]

Imagine not simping for elder fugen from MH:Rise

[iron pagoda]

🤷‍♂️

[stark quest]

So then you don't even know if you should feel sexualized or not. 😏

[plush delta]

Imagine being into men lmaoooo

Is actually sexually attracted to men, just not romantically

[dusky spruce]

people chefs kiss

[mystic gale]

I am not a pretty boy, but my OC is.

[stark quest]

So heterosexual but not heteroromantic.

[shut hinge]

I mean what

[stark quest]

Ziva is definitely prettier than I am.

[mystic gale]

I actually posted a screenshot of him in #🎮│other-games earlier because I finally got my Balthier bike tonight.

[dusky spruce]

Oh that's 100% felt Mikki

[stark quest]

Though I know some of my friends have tried to reassure me that I'm also pretty. -.-

[shut hinge]

I’m pretty

[dusky spruce]

Idealize your self insert OC's

[shut hinge]

Pretty cool

[plush delta]

no, I'm bisexual homoromantic cx

[stark quest]

I still have a hard time feeling like it usually.

[mystic gale]

Hey it's all about fantasy, right? Even if you're pretty IRL you can be even prettier.

[wooden widget]

Isnt that what friends are for, to keep ya afloat, and best friends there to tell how things might be really

emphasis on might.

[stark quest]

Ah, of course. I was just talking about that part of the spectrum, so excuse my dismissal. 😅

[stark quest]

Exactly. Besides, Ziva is supposed to be a bit of a knockout, but still hides. For different reasons than me, but still... she hides.

[shut hinge]

🧛

[plush delta]

no no you're fine :D the fact you made any distinction between sexual and romantic attraction at all speaks volumes about your education on the subject

[stark quest]

I mean, they're attracted to women, so... shrugs

[mystic gale]

She sounds like fun! Ramius is an inventor.

[dusky spruce]

Doesn't make their care for you any less valid

[stark quest]

I mean, I'll hone in on a specific without actually meaning to disregard other... I was talking about biological details on pregnancy and said 'women' last night in a server, when I meant it as sex rather than gender for the topic.

[dusky spruce]

:) they just think you're pretty and you're their friend so you deserve kind words

[stark quest]

Ah, I meant that they just might find my appearance to be of their preferred standards. 😅

[calm apex]

Good mooooorning Vietnam fellow farmers 👀

[mystic gale]

Good morning!

[dusky spruce]

Fair enough

[haughty dew]

morning

[stark quest]

おやほう！

I mean, morning!

[patent adder]

Morning 😄

[calm apex]

What's the point of waking up that early a sunday

[mystic gale]

"Oops my fingers slipped, I didn't mean to show that I know Japanese!" XD

[dusky spruce]

I woke up for reasons of gorlfremb borthday

[stark quest]

More that I know we're supposed to keep it mainly English in here, so I'll refrain from using much and definitely translate what I do say...

Most of the time...

[mystic gale]

Happy birthday to your girlfren!

[sand barn]

You have more time in the day!

[stark quest]

Ugh... Wanted to stream. Might be too tired now. x.x

[mystic gale]

Aww that's a pity.

[stark quest]

Having too much fun chatting here. Curse you guys!

[dusky spruce]

Aw, sorry Mikki.

[sand barn]

Ohh milky is here, hi milky!

[mystic gale]

Heya Milky

[stark quest]

Would have to choose something with a super low energy requirement if I were to stream at this point. 😂

[dusky spruce]

Is Milky's pfp a lamb ;^;

[mystic gale]

And Stardew isn't that?

[stark quest]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-goat-pet-cute-lamb-gif-16536941

That's what it is.

[dusky spruce]

Baby goat!

[plush delta]

A kid

[stark quest]

I know, because a friend would send it to me occasionally. So I very much recognize the gif. 😂

[dusky spruce]

A child. no

[shut hinge]

I have a strange fear of lamb

[stark quest]

You'd be surprised how 'into it' I get with the Stardew. O.o

[shut hinge]

It’s the eyes I think

[dusky spruce]

If it makes you feel better they wag their tails like puppies

[shut hinge]

They kinda freak me out

[mystic gale]

Guess I'll have to wait for another night to find out!

[dusky spruce]

Oh that's felt

[calm apex]

Where are you guys from btw?

[stark quest]

I am trying to go easier on myself this time through...

[brazen fjord]

Chuu

[dusky spruce]

Mikki do you also tunnel vision on games to the point it's been like 16 hours? XD

[stark quest]

The Emerald City.

[dusky spruce]

New England

[shut hinge]

My coffin

[mystic gale]

I too am from New England, we have four of us so far

[stark quest]

Heheh... I don't know what this is. What is this tunnel vision you speak of? nervous laughter

[haughty dew]

Sweden

[brazen fjord]

Western Washington

[calm apex]

Ohh

[dusky spruce]

Don't feel guilty Mikki, I've been told my dad sat at his desk in a bathrobe for 3 days straight playing the sims

[sand barn]

Netherlands

[stark quest]

Somehow, even with the completely different words, you have triggered music in my brain again. x.x

[calm apex]

Ant other French to support me?

[stark quest]

https://tenor.com/view/starset-my-demons-the-starset-society-society-starset-society-gif-15373361

[dusky spruce]

Lmao I had toxic on the brain lmao

[shut hinge]

That’s all part of my vampire magic

[mystic gale]

Je ne parle pas francais

[stark quest]

Should have been there when I had my big runthrough of Twillight Princess.

[sand barn]

Music triggered by random words.. that feels familiar to me

[dusky spruce]

But that reminds be of my beloved "Hey there demons, it's me, ya boi"

[calm apex]

Clean 👀

[dusky spruce]

Oh lord, Mikki I have 1,600 hours in terraria

[stark quest]

Wasn't completely nonstop - I took care of basic needs and all... but my naps definitely took me into Hyrule Field on more than one occasion. x.x

[dusky spruce]

100% felt and seen

[shut hinge]

Thems rooky numbers

[mystic gale]

What else have you streamed?

[stark quest]

Rather, they're all just Starset songs at various points... Just happened to bring out that one.

[dusky spruce]

Lmao unfortunately I'm either conscious 90% of the time or unconscious 90% of the time, there is no choice in the matter for me

[shut hinge]

Oof

[stark quest]

Oh, that was just me playing on my gamecube... long before I ever even started watching people stream. I have streamed FFXIV, ARK, Stardew, My Time at Portia, Oxygen Not Included, Divinity: Original Sin II, other various Final Fantasy games, etc...

[sand barn]

Thanks a lot of percent and I don't math good

[stark quest]

OH! And the Nancy Drew mystery games.

[mystic gale]

Good choices all! You have a favorite FF?

[dusky spruce]

Once we get more lore on palia I look forward to the community trying to make tabletop campaigns

[stark quest]

That was sort of one of my things on brand.

[plush delta]

Would anyone like to see my donut 🥺👉🏻👈🏻

[mystic gale]

I played through TP on my Wii back then.

[dusky spruce]

Y'all liked NieR Automata?

[sand barn]

YES

[mystic gale]

Loved NieR Automata.

[dusky spruce]

Donutsonutdonut

[mystic gale]

Sure!

[stark quest]

I have a nostalgic fondness for III because it was my first game (when it was remastered for the DS when that came out, so original III)... You can bet I was excited when I found out what the ARR 24 man raids were about. 😂

[sand barn]

Can't eat the donut which is sad

[shut hinge]

Not a fan of Nier but the gameplay for automata is pretty clever

[dusky spruce]

They didn't have to emotionally destroy us like they did lmao.

Yoko Taro'd

[plush delta]

may I DM it to y'all since the off topic channel won't lemme post pics xD

[stark quest]

They're doing that in FFXIV these days too... though probably not nearly as severe.

[sand barn]

Sure :)

[stark quest]

Not to mention getting the NieR 24 man raids for ShB. 😂

[mystic gale]

Haha, I bet! FFIII is a great one. And we have a lot of FFIV references to look forward to in Endwalker.

[dusky spruce]

Oh jeez, learned a completely different way to hold my ps4 controller so I could continuously fire and dodge at the same time

And then ugly sobbed in front of my roommate at the time over ending A

[mystic gale]

The YorHa raids, I rate them a A for encounter design and D for story. Sadly nothing about the quests or story had that Yoko Taro flair

[stark quest]

I need to probably get to that one... Started to stream it at one point, but I'm such a completionist that I don't know how well that'll work out.

[shut hinge]

Don’t remind me of that I’ve never been so bored doing content

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, they seemed kinda flat from some of the cutscene I saw

[stark quest]

Also, because I simp for the voice (to be facetious about it), Kain Highwind, thank you very much. 😎

[mystic gale]

It's worth it! FFIX is my fave but XIV is a close second at this point.

[dusky spruce]

I've only gotten to play a bit of XV

[mystic gale]

They kinda were, they were more about dwarves and didn't actually have a whole lot of the androids in them.

[stark quest]

XIV really is what it's all about for me. Because it's always evolving with the expacs and I get to be the main character.

[dusky spruce]

Ah dang

[stark quest]

I have several of the games that I have yet to complete or even play at all, so...

[shut hinge]

The nier raids dissapointed people who like yoko and people who don’t

[mystic gale]

Yup, I agree. Plus it just keeps getting better and the story in recent expansions is better than some of the single player games.

[stark quest]

Basically, I was slightly late getting into the FF franchise.

[shut hinge]

It’s the one thing I agreed with yoko fans about haha

[mystic gale]

Nothing wrong with that.

[dusky spruce]

My (38 year old) brother refuses to acknowledge I play video games unless I beat the souls games....

[stark quest]

Plus, they're catering to the single player experience nowadays to a minimum with the Trust system, and I appreciate them all the more for that.

[shut hinge]

Where’s his beard

[dusky spruce]

I own a freaking gaming computer and 2 consoles? Wot

[shut hinge]

And is it located on the neck

[mystic gale]

Yeah that's great, even though I kinda stopped leveling Trust when I realized how many runs I was going to have to do to get them leveled up 😩

[dusky spruce]

Some day I'm going to wax his head entirely bald

[stark quest]

Send him my way. 😒

[brazen fjord]

I haven't played any FF because my stupid ass is convinced I won't get the full experience of the latter without playing the earlier ones

[mystic gale]

I don't like the SOuls games.

[stark quest]

Actually, don't... I hate confrontation. 😩

[dusky spruce]

Honestly? Dragons Dogma is where it's at

[mystic gale]

All the FF games are standalones though, or most of them

[stark quest]

So, think of Final Fantasy as a franchise. The numbers are each separate series.

[dusky spruce]

Aaaah, okay

[brazen fjord]

Yeah, but I've convinced myself there will be references lol

[dusky spruce]

So you can just pick a game and jump in essentially?

[shut hinge]

Kinda but not really

[sand barn]

Don't let them logic you away from that belief!

[mystic gale]

I mean there are a few, but they aren't the kind of thing that reduces your enjoyment any

[stark quest]

The only time you might miss a reference is in games that are crossovers or implement some form of collabs like the 'living' MMOs of XI and XIV.

So have at it.

[mystic gale]

They do callbacks frequently, but if you don't recognize them it's not like you'll be lost.

The stories, characters, worlds, and everything are all completely separate.

[dusky spruce]

Nice

[stark quest]

Seriously, you will not miss out, and there's plenty that you can make your own judgment on what your favorites are and such.

[shut hinge]

Some stories are set in a futuristic environment some are a mixture some are pure fantasy

[dusky spruce]

Lightning returns was really cool to watch a playthrough of when it came out

[mystic gale]

Persona is the same way, there are thematic links but no story or lore links.

[stark quest]

That's the glorious thing about it all. There's so much that everyone can have a favorite and it isn't always super likely to be the same as another's.

[stark quest]

Speaking of which... It's been a loooong time and I need to finish my P3P playthrough... that I was streaming... GAH!

[dusky spruce]

We stan overgrown cityscape aesthetic in this house looks at Nausicaa, my time at Portia and nier automata

[sand barn]

There are an incredible amount of FF games, it's quite amazing as an outsider :o

[mystic gale]

I see your backlog weighs as heavily on you as mine does XD

[dusky spruce]

Also Hyperlight drifter, that game SLAPS

[mystic gale]

I still need to finish P5S. I got sidetracked by other games

[stark quest]

Gotta love the sort of hidden post-apocalyptic themes too (referring to MTaP with this in mind).

[stark quest]

Most definitely. 😭

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, I was totally taken aback the first time I saw the ruins

[stark quest]

The lore that starts poking through too...

I recently restarted after not playing for at least a year...

[dusky spruce]

Oh, another odd little game is turnip boy commits tax evasion

100/10 did not expect the lore to go the way it did

[stark quest]

I've come across that one. The title tickles me. 😂

[dusky spruce]

Its super fun honestly

[mystic gale]

My most recent clears are Nier Replicant, Call of the Sea and Manifold Garden.

[dusky spruce]

If you have xbox games pass I'd suggest spiritfarer

[mystic gale]

I LOVED Spiritfarer.

[dusky spruce]

It's super good

[stark quest]

lol

[mystic gale]

Played it on my Switch last year. It was one of the games that made me feel the most of anything I played all year.

[sand barn]

Call of the Sea was fun

[dusky spruce]

Made the mistake of suggesting it to my friend who is a palliative care nurse though and had to go "waitwaitwait hold on bad idea ik sorry hold on wait."

[sand barn]

Outer Wilds... now that's a game that struck a cord with me

[mystic gale]

Yeah, I liked it. And it was also the easiest plat trophy I've ever earned. Like 5 hours from 0% to full platinum

[dusky spruce]

They're adding 4 new spirits this year too

[mystic gale]

Yeah I saw that. I'm wondering how that works if I already completed the game before. I guess I just load my save right before the Everdoor and go find them?

[dusky spruce]

No clue

Oh, have any of you played liar princess and blind prince?

[mystic gale]

I have not.

[dusky spruce]

The game will surprisingly gutpunch you

[mystic gale]

Sounds like it's up my alley.

[dusky spruce]

Very pretty art and music though. It's from NIS

[mystic gale]

Oh and Disco Elysium, great game.

[dusky spruce]

A side scrolling puzzle platformer

[plush delta]

Now my pfp is the donut!!

[sand barn]

Bunny, Lunar Donut!

[mystic gale]

I'm also looking forward to playing the remastered Braid later this year

Looks delicious Bunny!

[dusky spruce]

Is that a 3d sculpt? Dang

[plush delta]

yiss

[dusky spruce]

It looks incredible Bunny!

[stark quest]

Another reason I might bite... 🤤

[plush delta]

🥺👉🏻👈🏻 thank you,,

[brazen fjord]

You better save that pfp for me 😒 😋

[stark quest]

I mean, I won't bite! Promise!

[plush delta]

I want a donut now xD

[mystic gale]

I have a donut shop down the street... 👀

[stark quest]

Me too. x.x

[sand barn]

Donuts are meant to be bit into

[dusky spruce]

I can make home made cider donuts

[sand barn]

Sorry Bunny, we will eat your donut

[stark quest]

Trying to get to me with donuts. I SEE YOU OVER THERE, SIR!

[dusky spruce]

Lmao Mikki

[brazen fjord]

We are not comrades

[mystic gale]

BOLD ASSUMPTION! maybe

[stiff plinth]

donuts sound wonderful right about now

[brazen fjord]

I will eat it!

[haughty dew]

https://tenor.com/view/donut-simpson-homer-simpson-yummy-nom-gif-12662023

[stark quest]

I mean, really...

[sand barn]

I'd share with you

[stark quest]

https://tenor.com/view/fairly-odd-parents-trixie-feed-me-tellmeimpretty-gif-12247809

I'm pretty easy...

[mystic gale]

I've always been good at both of those things.

[stark quest]

At least on the surface. 😏

I did mention earlier how it's actually rare for me to find myself attracted to someone, after all... x.x

[sand barn]

I have no idea what you're on about. But are you saying you're like a undercooked pie?

[dusky spruce]

Luckily for whatever palia neighborhood I end up in, puerto rican/Italian grandma urges to overfeed EVERYONE

[stark quest]

I mean, at least in the real world. Can't say the same for fictional characters and some celebrities.

[mystic gale]

Physical attraction isn't rare for me, but it's rare that I attain romantic interest in somebody.

[dusky spruce]

There are going to be very fat and lazy chapaa in the neighborhood lmao

[stark quest]

It's rare that both coincide for me.

[mystic gale]

Yup, that's a whole mood.

[wooden widget]

Universal language, althou tell me im pretty I would replace with compliments

[stark quest]

So when the character or celebrity at least come across as the things I like...

[wooden widget]

also dont folks use Donut as way to say Dumb but softer?

[brazen fjord]

Hmm

[stark quest]

Standard for me, really. I actually feel that 'pretty' as the exact adjective is an absolute no go for me.

[sand barn]

Hah, yes. They do. But that is not what any of us meant I'm sure

[wooden widget]

I am certified Donut and proud, inedible tho.

[brazen fjord]

Idk about that one, but I do know "cinnamon roll" is used. I think that one refers to innocent ppl

[mystic gale]

But so often you find out they hate gay people secretly or they like pineapple on pizza, and then...

[stark quest]

Or people who are 'sweet'. 😉

[wooden widget]

now thats a crime.

[sand barn]

How is a cinnamon roll innocent?!

[iron pagoda]

Pineapple.. Yumm

[sand barn]

We don't kink shame those who love pineapple on pizza!

[mystic gale]

(I actually don't loathe pineapple on pizza like some, but it's a whole thing on the internet)

[stark quest]

That erases all attraction from me.

Like when I'm just admiring the appearance of a stranger and he lights up a cigarette.

[mystic gale]

UGH I KNOW.

[brazen fjord]

How dare you call it a kink!

[stark quest]

Immediately no longer attractive...

[mystic gale]

Seriously.

[sand barn]

PINEAPPLE IS PAIN

[brazen fjord]

What's the matter with pineapple on pizza anyways

[mystic gale]

I find out someone's a smoker and I'm just out

[brazen fjord]

It's an acidic fruit, like a tomato

[stark quest]

I mean, I won't judge people for that specifically, but they definitely aren't a passing candidate for the boyfriend applications at that point. lol

[brazen fjord]

Do you not like tomatoes on pizza either?!

[half halo]

So true

[stark quest]

I know there's often further context to a person's story. I have compassion. But I cannot be around it.

[mystic gale]

Yeah same. Do what you want! You just won't be doing it around me and there will be no sexytimes.

[dusky spruce]

I just dislike warm pineapple

[sand barn]

Not a passing candidate because they like a certain food? Lol

[stark quest]

Even friends who have had the habit have been as courteous and respectful as they can be around me with it.

[stark quest]

Using smoking as an example, actually.

Liking a certain food? No problem.

[sand barn]

I was about to say!

[mystic gale]

I like pineapple a lot and I'll tolerate it on a pizza if I'm hungry enough.

[stark quest]

I'm not partial to pineapple on pizza, or cooked much at all... but I can tolerate it and still think it should be an option.

[dusky spruce]

It can also be a texture/sensory issue due to adhd or food related trauma

[wooden widget]

People are fickle with their ways of liking and disliking things, sometimes knowing less is best

[shut hinge]

Well food can come into it like if you don’t believe eating meat is okay for instance you might not be attracted to those who do

[mystic gale]

But yeeeeah smoking is a no from me dawg.

[half halo]

Just yesterday I thought smoking should be illegal in restaurant places outside, it always ruins sitting outside

[brazen fjord]

I'm a food monster btw

[stark quest]

This is pertaining to values around it as opposed to liking or disliking a flavor or texture though.

[dusky spruce]

Like I couldn't handle dairy for 6 years after I was forced to drink curdled expired milk by my dad.

[haughty dew]

You should move to Sweden then, here it is illegal to do just that

[mystic gale]

Ultimately attraction is entirely subjective and not entirely under our control

[brazen fjord]

Or maybe consumption criminal is a better title

[stark quest]

Washington state was a trendsetter in the US regarding banning smoking in and around public establishments.

[iron pagoda]

My dad forced me to eat sprouts until I threw up

[mystic gale]

It's chemical, you're attracted to who and what you're attracted to and that's just that

[dusky spruce]

Oh lordy, felt

[stark quest]

I like Japan though... there are actually designated smoking areas. Far more logical.

[half halo]

Nice

[stark quest]

Contain the smoking areas rather than protecting the non-smoking areas.

[mystic gale]

You can't have that here though because muh freedom

[sand barn]

Smoking is becoming considerably less of a habit here interestingly enough

[dusky spruce]

Cant handle tuna, friend stepdad forced me to eat a sandwich with it, but sis it outside in case I puked so it wouldn't make a mess and that's what I did

[wooden widget]

Can agree to this to a degree

[dusky spruce]

My mom is livid to this day

[finite basalt]

@stark quest do you like horses?

[stark quest]

Seafood is a legitimate issue for some people. I would never force someone!

[mystic gale]

I like seafood, but not shellfish. Too insect-adjacent for me.

[stark quest]

Nope. Like is a very strong understatement.

[brazen fjord]

I can't do seafood

[dusky spruce]

Oof I've get shellfish allergies but my maternal side is Italian american so it's bad at holidays

[stark quest]

This too as a specific... My brother actually found he couldn't eat shellfish at some point in his life. Body chemistry transition or something, but it made him sick.

[finite basalt]

@stark quest So i take it you ride?

[mystic gale]

My ex works as a saddle fitter for a living, so I learned a lot about horses through her.

[brazen fjord]

Except salmon, and my first experience with crab

Never liked crab since lol

[stark quest]

Unfortunately, only in video games for most of my life now. Haven't ridden since I was a little girl. 😭

[mystic gale]

Yeah, sometimes it just happens that way.

[stark quest]

I've learned a lot through reading, video games, and drawing... I'm that girl who was happy to get a horse and pony encyclopedia for Christmas one year.

[dusky spruce]

Brother decided to cut me with a shrimp shell to prove I was faking it.... I just... stayed very quiet about how my arm was getting splotchy and painfully itchy....

[stark quest]

But I took riding lessons when I was in first grade... I think I stopped because my instructor's daughter intimidated me and she was kind of bossy/insensitive...

[dusky spruce]

Oh felt Mikki

[half halo]

Fell from a horse as a girl but my boot caught in the saddle so no more riding for me - though I like horses just fine as long as I stand on the ground

[mystic gale]

That's adorable. I don't know a lot mind you but I used to go on jobs with her sometimes. She hasn't ridden since she was younger either, but she was a pretty skilled rider and knows all about their anatomy and whatnot.

[mystic gale]

Ugh that sounds really traumatizing

[stark quest]

I once dreamed of becoming an equine vet. Or a general vet, but was very leaning towards equine.

[dusky spruce]

Do you still have lasting injury physically as well?

[brazen fjord]

I've ridden a few times. Not a fan of being propelled by another animal unfortunately

[mystic gale]

What stopped you?

[dusky spruce]

Seeing animals in pain can effect people sadly

[half halo]

If you meant me, no none at all I was very lucky

[stark quest]

I grew up a bit. IT and video games became more my calling.

[dusky spruce]

I'm glad for that, but I'm sorry for how traumatic it was.

[stark quest]

I was very young and still in that fairly 'dreamy' stage when I first aspired to be a vet... along with a singer, dancer, astronaut, and other various things.

[mystic gale]

Very fair. It was like that with me with various professions. Though I do still want to be a published writer some day.

[stark quest]

My grandma was a bona fide cowgirl at one point in her life. Actually had a major hip injury due to a horse accident later on as well.

[stark quest]

I just wish I liked writing more... And that my creativity wasn't so stinted at this point in my life. 😭

[celest maple]

feel that

[mystic gale]

Yeah, see... that's been my issue. I haven't actually done a lot for awhile, and so my inspiration has been hard to come by.

[iron pagoda]

Is it wrong of me to say I don't agree with horse riding

[stark quest]

Oh yeah, this also reminds me of the times I got poked by cat claws.

Animal allergies are absolutely nope as well.

[mystic gale]

So, writing is a huge struggle and it's very unpleasant.

[half halo]

You know how you do these tests of what job would suit you later? For me it said midwife or police, I didn't want to do either xD

[dusky spruce]

Mikki, one thing that I found helps is making a playlist for the theme/character you're writing for

[mystic gale]

But I'm great at it and I don't even know how many people have told me so.

[dusky spruce]

Also RIP my friend gets hives too from cat claws

[stark quest]

I don't think it's wrong per say... but I think there's context and situations that can influence this one way or the other.

[stark quest]

I think I have too many trapped emotions in my body and need a breaking down of a major Heart Wall, personally. 😐

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, no I did one of those and got public servant of some sort and was just like "Lmao not with my anxiety in public I think the frick noy"

[mystic gale]

That makes it sound like the test just thinks you should be telling people what to do, whether they're big or little people XD

[plush delta]

oof that's sad to see bc I love it

[half halo]

Hahaha never saw it that way but true

[wooden widget]

Entirely yes, I dont look kindly if you have different opinion than me, just kidding, as said before people like and dislike different things

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, half the time I'll start writing and then pick myself apart for it. Teachers and others can stunt or spur growth with their reactions. :(

[iron pagoda]

I just see it as another way human kind uses majestic animals such as a horse to do their own bidding. It's akin to an elephant in the circus

[stark quest]

Another reason I wish I liked writing more... is because I'm confident in my ability with it. I am actually good at writing.

[half halo]

Also fits the job I'm learning actually

[mystic gale]

Yup that's where I'm at.

[brazen fjord]

Lucky me only got one allergy. I small plant called Geranium robertianum

[dusky spruce]

Wish I could buckle down and write the d&d campaign I've been working on for like... 6 years lmao

[stark quest]

See, but there are other methods people are pushing for that work with the horse and not making the horse work for them in that sense. That's why I say there is so much more context to surround the topic.

There are many more symbiotic relationships humans can have with other animals, but we have had to learn the right methods to fostering those relationships properly.

[dusky spruce]

Dog sledding is good because the dogs actively enjoy the activity of it.

[mystic gale]

I've certainly never known a horse owner that treated their horses as slaves or resources to use. If anything most of them treat them better than they do themselves.

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, if they're truly a good caretaker the animal is treated as family rather than property

[stark quest]

I would argue that horse racing is one of the worst examples... but there are also people who have learned to understand horses enough to find that there are some horses who enjoy the sport.

But that's unfortunately more rare than those doing it for the business.

[mystic gale]

Most of the horse owners I've met go without a lot to pursue it, make a lot of sacrifices, and it's just out of love of horses.

Because it's so expensive.

[stark quest]

And I'll second this.

[dusky spruce]

My mom got her horse for companionship and the freedom of interacting with something in a healthy way

[stark quest]

This is one factor that I think drew me away from the environment. Parents claimed it was expensive, and I was learning to associate expensive with 'not-doable'.

[dusky spruce]

He uh.... he also stole her entire cheese pizza once....

[stark quest]

lol

[iron pagoda]

I completely agree with this, but if they were never mean't to be ridden by humans and horse racing, imho is cruel, the moment they have no value or are injured in the name of our entertainment a lot are put down. Dogs and cats were never meant to be domesticated either.

[mystic gale]

That's sad, but understandable.

[mystic gale]

I think the friendships between humans and dogs, cats, and horses is more beneficial to both than it is harmful.

[stark quest]

Soooo many things were never 'meant' to be originally, but we are creators and inventors and animals are just as much teachers to us through our relationships as we are inventing ways to have them work with us.

[mystic gale]

So right!

[dusky spruce]

I'd be dead without my dog and cats, they're some of the purest and sweetest animals and I would give myself up for their safety in a heartbeat

[stark quest]

It's part of our evolution as divine beings.

And yeah, I'm saying that instead of humans, because we're just human in this physical experience.

[brazen fjord]

If you wanna get into what things are "meant" to do, can we just annihilate the human race and call it clean?

[mystic gale]

I can tell you right now that my cats have a much easier life with me than they did as strays out on the street.

[iron pagoda]

Could you define "with us"? history leans heavily on the "for us" more than with us.

[dusky spruce]

A lot of issues lie in the area of not having a mutual understanding and respect for the life around you

[umbral ferry]

Given we moved to a monthly questions format, it feels like we won't get the pre-alpha for another month yet. And thus I feel like my definition of "really soon" and Palia team definition of "really soon" don't align

[iron pagoda]

I agree so long as respect and boundaries are adhered to.

[mystic gale]

And in most cases they are.

[stark quest]

Because I am choosing to focus on the ways they are 'with us' than 'for us' since they were indeed not created 'for us'. Remember, I'm still an advocate for correct treatment, and I still believe our relationship with various other creatures shouldn't be eliminated entirely.

[umbral ferry]

Imagine thinking my cat respects my boundaries

[dusky spruce]

I do look forward to pre alpha, but if it comes in autumn it wouldn't be too bad, no?

[mystic gale]

There are definitely people out there who are cruel and should not be allowed to keep animals, and I'm all in favor of harsher punishments for those people than we have.

[mystic gale]

I just hope it doesn't kick into high gear in November, because I'm going to be playing Endwalker then D:

[stark quest]

Thank goodness for the more recent (in the long run) felonization of animal cruelty in the US.

[iron pagoda]

😂 Yeah, that statement was aimed more at us! I had a cat who literally ruled my house.

[mystic gale]

That's definitely a positive step!

[dusky spruce]

Lmao Inari my cat legit throws fits and destroys stuff when she's upset.

[mystic gale]

You should see my ex's rabbits when they get pissy.

[wooden widget]

Maybe they under estimated the amount of questions being asked and month will give them more time to focus on the game and on the side answering the questions - this is pure speculation

[iron pagoda]

I think if more people had this view the world would be a better place.

[mystic gale]

House rabbits are the biggest prima donnas I've ever seen.

[stark quest]

There are ways people are learning to understand animals in a more literal way too these days. Many might consider it fake, but that doesn't make it any less real.

[vivid hill]

I've never ruled, nor been ruled over by a cat, but I have had a mutual love between one. I miss him.

[stark quest]

It's one of my redeeming qualities, I guess. -.-

[mystic gale]

I'm so sorry you lost your friend. :(

[stark quest]

Since I'm otherwise useless. I'm about as good as the pet that doesn't do anything worthwhile for its parent.

[umbral ferry]

Well more, I don't expect it till the next Q&A is over. Because dunno, why have a Q&A where a lot of the questions will just fall under "Wait till Pre-Alpha" and "WE don't know yet". But in the unofficial FAQ they had said "If you just want to play it's going to be really soon! really soon!". But if it's not happening within a month I don't feel like it's "really soon" personally

[mystic gale]

I'm sure that's not true!

[iron pagoda]

I woke up this morning to kisses and cuddles from my puppy. The smile I had was from ear to ear and made the world beautiful. This is the relationship I like.

[sand barn]

Aww DOGGIE

[wooden widget]

what if palia releases in like 4 years then one month is in perspective "really soon" Heh, but yeah i get what ya saying

[mystic gale]

I'm thinking at least several weeks, because they said "we're going to try to announce a date and then stick to it as well as we can." So first they're going to announce a date and then they're expecting that enough time is going to go by in between that their plans could change.

[stark quest]

So yeah, you can bet I advocate for the lessons we learn about unconditional love from our furbabies... And how we treat those who don't actually benefit us in any significantly contributing way. -.-

[vivid hill]

Imagine the same but nuzzles from your cat instead..

[mystic gale]

I personally feel that compassion and empathy like you show contribute to the people around you in a huge way, even if our society doesn't always value it the same.

[stark quest]

Certainly feels that way these days. Being able to give a positive outlook isn't worth anything compared to doing all the dishes next to the sink, even if they're not yours. 🙄

Definitely doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table.

[iron pagoda]

I had the most amazing cat called Tyke. He passed away last year. Never missed a chance to show affection though ❤️

[vivid hill]

Love it!

[mystic gale]

I mean, no, and that's the society bit. They're undervalued, but not by me.

You still have to do all the social "contributions" and play along with the system, but I wish people would focus less on that stuff.

[mystic gale]

I'm so sorry you lost your friend but it sounds like you gave him a wonderful life T_T

[stark quest]

I'd love to contribute and all... but when I'm in such a 'broken' state that I can't even function, I can't do anything for myself, let alone for anyone else or 'society'.

I end up feeling useless because of an external system...

[vivid hill]

Let society make itself crumble. Then humanities true pillars will stand out tall. Patience is a virtue.

[mystic gale]

I can't speak to what it is about you that you describe as "broken", but it definitely sounds like you'll be better off when you get out of where you are.

[iron pagoda]

He gave me a wonderful life, I hope I did the same for him. Broke my heart when I had to say goodbye.

[stark quest]

Then undervalue what I can do when I'm able to do it...

[stark quest]

Better and worse.

[mystic gale]

My cat is 14 this year and as far as I'm concerned he's going to live forever. I'll be shattered when I lose him.

[stark quest]

But yeah, it gets to a point that I consider friends paying me by giving me a task like crafting a set in FFXIV for them...

It's so twisted to be brainwashed into thinking that's a fair exchange in a general sense...

[mystic gale]

I'm so sorry you're going through that. If you ever need someone to talk to, I'll happily volunteer.

And I'm sure people here will be helpful too. :)

[stark quest]

Sucks to be in that state when I'm so easily preaching to others that 'Love should never be transactional.'

[mystic gale]

Well it's always easier to see the solutions to other people's problems and situations than your own, because you can see the bigger picture and you don't have as much at stake usually.

[iron pagoda]

should always be reciprocated though. Love is not a one way street either.

[vivid hill]

Nah. It's just somethin' you give. Some will give back, some won't. Gotta safeguard what you regain though.

[stark quest]

Should not be transactional means that it shouldn't be demanded either though...

[plush delta]

The fact I didn't really see the issue at first 😅 I'm the same way.

[iron pagoda]

I know, it is a natural thing. If it's forced or demanded it's not natural and not love.

[brazen fjord]

It is sometimes. Like for a car. Love is such a large umbrella term that idk why anyone tries putting a cookie cutter to it

[mystic gale]

It's almost always hard to see when you're in the middle of it.

[stark quest]

Yes, we should love others. Even those who we might not consider deserving of it... but that's the point where we just try to do it without them in our lives. It's easier to love someone from afar if they are doing something to make it harder to love them.

Like trying to have compassion and love for those who have hurt me. Because that's for my benefit and expansion and growth. Not for them.

[plush delta]

I've talked about them here but my ex has me really messed up. I didn't elaborate too too much bc I started feeling bad for talking, so when people said something I just agreed without considering my situation.

Anywaaaays uh, I tried my hardest to do whatever I could to keep my ex from hating me so much so that I had have a list of what I wasn't allowed to do

[vivid hill]

It's because you've not met them in person, not come to know the things they've been through or done. It's called empathy, or your imagination's ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes.

[iron pagoda]

This is why I love animals. They teach us about Unconditional love.

[mystic gale]

That's a really evolved way of looking at it. I like it.

[stark quest]

And also why it would be a grave mistake to try and eliminate those relationships with them that we have already. Just find better ways to establish and foster those relationships.

Be it for companionship or work.

Even that companionship is considered a job for many animals, and they're happy to work!

[brazen fjord]

Well, love and hate aren't opposites, so I can see that

[stark quest]

That's why we have working dogs and ESAs and such.

[mystic gale]

Yeah, work isn't a bad thing, whether it's for people or animals. It's considered a positive for us and there are certainly animals that thrive with work to do.

[stark quest]

It gives a sense of purpose and usefulness.

[plush delta]

Work as in a task not work as in a 9-5 day in and day xp

[mystic gale]

Spends excess energy and gives a sense of activity and accomplishment!

[iron pagoda]

And I completely agree, which brings me back to respect and boundaries. So long as the animal benefits just as much as we do then the relationship is mutual. When we ask to much of them, such as "riding a horse into war" then my issues arise.

[stark quest]

A job could be considered a chore as well as 'work'. So yeah...

[mystic gale]

Hey those jobs can be rewarding too. They just too often aren't because people are shoehorned into them instead of fitted to them.

[plush delta]

Bc like, I can't vibe with a standard job bc of my brain's wacko whatever up there

[stark quest]

Which is nearly impossible for me, thus me lacking work for most of my 'workable' life. -.-

[plush delta]

Saaaaame

[stark quest]

I've only ever done seasonal jobs or internships, or something happened to end my employment prematurely. 😐

[mystic gale]

Impossible to be fitted to something?

[stark quest]

That's what she said? XD

[plush delta]

Hence why imma be an artsy trophy wife that cooks and vibes and is sexy for my spouse(s)

[mystic gale]

But not what he said. 😏

[iron pagoda]

Lucky spouse(s)

[stark quest]

I can't even bank on that in my situation. I don't have the energy to take care of a household at all, so... I'd be the pet. -.-

[left violet]

👀

[stark quest]

The constantly stressed out pet because I still end up feeling useless even when told 'it's okay' if I don't do much.

[mystic gale]

Hello Annie

[plush delta]

tbh me too but I like cooking so xD hence why I'm a bunny

[left violet]

@mystic gale Hi

[stark quest]

Can you just adopt me then?

[cedar fractal]

Adulting is hard. That's why it's easier to escape to a virtual game world...

[mystic gale]

Man you really are getting gaslighted a lot. :(

[stark quest]

Precisely my reason for existence.

[stark quest]

It's been many, many years of it accumulating over time. Also, look into childhood emotional neglect for more context. 😩

Because it wasn't necessarily done out of ill intent.

[left violet]

Taking care of the household is a lot of work, specially when you have small kids

[plush delta]

Haha i get it! Because they're playing Tetris and she doesn't think he can do it but he's a pro

[stark quest]

I can be a not-small kid. 🙃

[sand barn]

That's why we're gonna build neighborhoods filled with campfire stories, tea parties, exploration expeditions and more!

[stark quest]

Yeah! This is totally the explanation!

[mystic gale]

Oof. That's really rough and I'm sad that's been your lot in life. Like I say, if you need someone to talk to I volunteer as tribute

[mystic gale]

We'll go with that!

[stark quest]

Right? That did fit perfectly! 😂

[mystic gale]

It all works!

[stark quest]

Also sent a friend request your way. Because no restrictions on self promotion in the DMs! Or...

https://tenor.com/view/wacky-man-sliding-slide-in-d-ms-gif-8178841

[mystic gale]

Seen and accepted!

[stark quest]

😂 Because obligatory sliding GIFs.

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-doing-hi-slide-dm-single-gif-8014866

[plush delta]

I don't think I'm allowed to adopt anyone 😅

[iron pagoda]

That gif looks like me

[wooden widget]

6/10 Slide, could've been more smooth

[mystic gale]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-girl-sliding-into-your-dms-like-sliding-into-dms-into-your-dms-like-roller-skate-gif-5454418

[stark quest]

It doesn't have to be some official legal adoption.

[wooden widget]

taking awfully long to preview that tenor :D

[mystic gale]

Yeah why :(

[plush delta]

Ooooh then absolutely, am used to being a mom friend

[stark quest]

Just edit and add a space and re-enter.

Sometimes that does the trick for me when it doesn't embed properly.

[stark quest]

I have regressed to the point of needing mom/dad friends, I think. x.x

[mystic gale]

It no worke

[stark quest]

It's all the (quite literal) daddy issues I have.

[sand barn]

We all need friends!

[plush delta]

oof mood. i regularly deal with age regression 😔 trauma is a jerk

[iron pagoda]

I have no friends

[brazen fjord]

Oo oo I don't:D

[plush delta]

Especially when I get in a headspace like that around people who aren't very nice and then it causes compounding trauma 😅

[stark quest]

I mean, my depression really started to hit around my tween/early teen years, and that does seem to feel 'when' I'm stuck. x.x

[plush delta]

Same!!! 11-13!

[dusky spruce]

I'm sorry ;^;

[stark quest]

It's because you're being sexualized all the time.

😏

[iron pagoda]

oof that hurt.

[wooden widget]

Quick tips, do not eat glue, and 5 second rule isnt always applicable, thank you for comin to the parent teaching

[stark quest]

I mean, in hindsight, it was around then or even earlier, but I didn't get officially diagnosed and medicated until 13.

[mystic gale]

All right, it's half past four and I can see the outline of the trees outside. That's the signal for me to turn into a pumpkin.

[sand barn]

You will accept our friendship!

[brazen fjord]

Nooooooooo

[mystic gale]

Good night lovely people!

[plush delta]

Same tho :0

[dusky spruce]

I'm the mom friend to my discord of queer kids so if you need I'll goose honk at and bite anyone who messes with y'all

[wooden widget]

Nights Inventor

[brazen fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-dipsy-teletubby-running-running-late-gif-16009851

[dusky spruce]

Night Inveight!

[stark quest]

Dipsy gotta dip!

[plush delta]

I have quite a bit of stuff crossed off my "hmmmm that's a sus childhood" bingo card

[stark quest]

😂

[dusky spruce]

I feel bunny

[sand barn]

Woop! I can make an appointment to get vaccinated

[plush delta]

Nice!!!

[iron pagoda]

Had mine friday 🥳

[cedar fractal]

Luckily I'm old enough that my 2nd is booked for the 26th 🙂

[dusky spruce]

Casually mention childhood stuff in a discord and everyone just universally went "That's got to be some of the worst crap I've ever heard." And because you don't know any different you're like aaaaah no way

[stark quest]

I've been fully vaccinated for a while now. 😎 flexes both arms because got one shot in each

[brazen fjord]

.....why

[heavy falcon]

I have horrible dad jokes 🤔

[brazen fjord]

The both arms part, i mean

[wooden widget]

https://giphy.com/gifs/were-the-millers-this-movie-has-so-many-moments-im-giffin-shit-out-of-it-DOPKHQg6oFWUg

But with "you guys had better childhood"

[dusky spruce]

Lmao

[sand barn]

Kiss the biceps!!

[cedar fractal]

The grass is always greener...

[dusky spruce]

Basically

[stark quest]

I'm soooo much more aware of it now. I mean, I have always been a Highly Sensitive Person, so there's always been that lingering sensation when something isn't right... but all the gaslighting and normalization throughout my life has just made me learn to not trust myself for things in general... and that's given me more traumatic situations to experience.

[plush delta]

lets see

Didn't know I was queer till around age 12: check

Groomed on the internet at around age 12: check

Regularly "punishing" myself at anything I've done I felt was wrong since I could talk: check

Gaslit by a stepfather who didn't ever claim me as his kid: check

My birth father...like that : oof unfortunately check

Oh yeah: abysmal memory of anything and everything from childhood: check

[dusky spruce]

Oh yeah, no

[wooden widget]

The ending sentence i think folks like to say "They went to the milk / ciggy store"

[dusky spruce]

The "I never said/did that."

[stark quest]

My dad isn't my biological father. Around the time my depression was getting super bad was around the time I over heard him in an argument with my mom say, "she's your kid."

[iron pagoda]

I had a shitty childhood, I just don't talk about it. We all have a history but we try to not let it define us yet feel stuck.

[thorny dune]

this convo is probably a bit too loaded for Palia chat

considering it's not about Palia and all, ya know?

[stark quest]

He's still legally my dad... abandonment and adoption laws in regard to my biological father and the like... So my dad is actually on my birth certificate.

[plush delta]

Oof uh...no, my birth father wasn't very kind to me at all. When I was born he took one look at me and said if any of his kids would be homos it'd be me. He was right but not the point

[random olive]

its also mobile game?

[stark quest]

Check!

[plush delta]

Oh!! Also I have been fully vacc'd for awhile now :D

[dusky spruce]

Yeah, I was born and my fathers parents said "she's too light skinned"

[stark quest]

I only met my bio father a couple years ago.

A couple? A few? 🤔

[stark quest]

She's a damn baby with yet to develop fully in anything, including final melanin content. 😒

[brazen fjord]

I feel like I did that haha. I seem to be the one that's always at the top of wild convos 👀

[wooden widget]

Sounds unfortunate, dark humor me would like to throw something here, but maybe I could reign it in just for once.

[stark quest]

Rood.

[naive vessel]

Y'all had some pretty bad childhoods

[plush delta]

Wish I had the luxury of not knowing my birth father. I'll tell y'all two reasons he hated me.

My eyes and hair are both brown, my siblings... Well you can guess ^^'

[stark quest]

Nah, I'll take credit for a hefty amount of tonight. 😏

[brazen fjord]

That's what he said

[dusky spruce]

I mean the PTSD diagnosis following my dad trying to kill me twice definitely cemented that

[stark quest]

Did he? 😂

[dusky spruce]

Lmao oof

[thorny dune]

[plush delta]

OOF yikes i take back everything I said, I don't think my childhood was nearly as bad-

[stark quest]

I am undiagnosed, very likely PTSD in my cocktail of anomalies.

[stark quest]

Doesn't matter. Your experience is still valid.

It's not a contest of who had it worse.

[dusky spruce]

Hey, never consider what you went through less than someone else's you still went through it

[plush delta]

Yis yis true but

[stark quest]

We've all just had messed up childhood experiencecs.

Remember, even a scrape on the knee as a kid could be the worst thing they've ever experienced, and it's okay to cry at that.

[dusky spruce]

We're all trauma survivors and like survivors we all have our own scars and stories, so don't doubt your pain, alright?

[plush delta]

My childhood was kinda normal after the whole...mom getting away from birth dad and the one time stepdad did something awful

[dusky spruce]

Doesn't have to be physical trauma, mental and emotional trauma is just as bad or worse is some cases.

[stark quest]

I have a sort of meme addressing the validation of 'bad experiences' too. x.x

[edgy nova]

Sooooo someone just tryed to scam me in dms and the only server we have in common is this one. So be careful in here friends

[plush delta]

Aside from growing possibly ADHD and autistic without knowing along with the bullying that came of me being the "weird" teachers pet

[stark quest]

Especially because it can maintain a lack of visibility.

[brazen fjord]

I had 3 extra people in my house for 9 months because my aunt lost custody of my cousins

[plush delta]

How so?

[dusky spruce]

Exactly

[stark quest]

I actually blew up in a health class when the topic was different types of abuse because of that very concept. 😐

[sand barn]

Make sure to report them

[dusky spruce]

Also I'd message the mods with their user ID so they can bad them

Ban*

[stark quest]

Another official game server I'm in has had that happen recently. Definitely making the rounds, it seems.

[edgy nova]

I believe the end result was them try to get my steam password by claiming

[stark quest]

Don't even click on the links they send.

[dusky spruce]

Yep, we had a PSA about that recently

[edgy nova]

yeah i tryed messaging the mods but they only accept messages from friends

[brazen fjord]

Probably because you have a bunch of linked medias

[edgy nova]

For sure

[brazen fjord]

Was it the Steam scam?

[wooden widget]

you do a thing @moderators and ask if you can dm someone

[edgy nova]

It was so obvious, i made fun of them and called them out on everything that was obvious and then he blocked me lmao

i figured id atleast get them banned in here to protect others who might not realize its a scam

[wooden widget]

there will always be more, its difficult to keep things clean out of scammers

[edgy nova]

True

they had a brand new discord account so they will probably just make another

[brazen fjord]

Ah yeah, based on what you described, it's the accidentally-reported-you one

[dusky spruce]

Probably

[edgy nova]

Yeah thats the one

[stark quest]

The work is never done. lol

[thorny dune]

Takes more effort than just reporting their ID, so they'll burn out faster anyway

[edgy nova]

He was like "me and my friends all reported you and now youre gonna get permabanned! :O"

[wooden widget]

for future if it says they new to discord, always be skeptical

[edgy nova]

True