💬│palia-discussions

[narrow pasture]

the experience should be no different if you plug in the same peripherals?

[slim mountain]

That’s what I do but I use an Xbox controller

[celest maple]

They both have their benefits honestly. I just switch back and forth depending how I feel for the day

[solid marsh]

I like my pc more than anything in the whole wide world.It's my baby.

[acoustic herald]

Haven't they already stated that they have big money behind them? Of course they want to profit nontheless.

[solid marsh]

One time I literally gave my keyboard a kiss

MAH BABY.

[wispy wyvern]

I plug my consoles in to my PC... Yes, I know. I am a monster.

[obsidian crypt]

@sharp obsidian yo I'm not sure if you guys have looked at skys business model. But that game struck a perfect balance of b2p and f2p

[solar stratus]

Yeah they already have private funding

[opaque scroll]

i dont actually know tbh. if thats the case then they can probably get away with a buy to play model

[torn zinc]

It really isn't. In terms of convience pc has really caught up over the years and consoles have really lost a lot of their quick plug and play appeal

[arctic onyx]

f2p entry level with b2p seasons?

[faint dawn]

Guys.. Is it weird that I want Yakmoos to have Elephant feet?

[prime cradle]

You have to have a money model around cosmetics. WoW has that, but since they have millions paying subs... why switch?

It works for GW2 because beyond the model of the cosmetic you get, you can customize it with colors. It's more Fashion wars than Guild wars imo lol

[hollow pulsar]

whats a yakmoo

[obsidian crypt]

@arctic onyx kinda. Alittle more to it then that

[worn iris]

Is pre alpha already available? I just signed up would love to play this with some friends

[uneven pebble]

no idea

[celest maple]

Getting battlepass ptsd from this one

[uneven pebble]

not yet but soon

[solid marsh]

there will be an announcment when it is

[solar stratus]

Endgame is glamour in ffxiv as well

[prime cradle]

I think ESO does both sub and cosmetics, not sure though.

[wispy wyvern]

puts on half moon specs, takes out note pad

"Tell me. How often iz it that you think of the animal feet."

[solid marsh]

I'm literally so excited, I started squeaking my head off when I found out x'D

[hollow pulsar]

in a few weeks according to the site

[arctic onyx]

battlepass is a pretty fair system in most games that employ it

[slim mountain]

Aw we can’t use external emojis anymore? Or is my phone acting up?

[faint dawn]

All the time when I am drawing..

[patent adder]

She's having a very good time 😆

[solid marsh]

yes please for cute battle pass "catch 1 fish, get one gold star"

[sick perch]

While I have not played a game using that system, it does sound fair

[hollow pulsar]

sometimes a battlepass kinda gets grindy cough cough genshin cough cough

[prime cradle]

Would be cool in general if they put out a poll for monetization.

[narrow pasture]

eh? I'm kinda lost here, I'm saying that if you plugged a pc into speakers, a TV, and a controller that it could play identically to a console

[torn zinc]

A battlepass in a game like this feels like a bit of a weird blend to me, Should we really all be working toward the exact same set of rewards each cycle?

[paper wing]

you'd have to call it something else - not sure battlepass would work in a game that seems to have less of a focus on battles

[hollow pulsar]

PAL PASS?

[solid marsh]

"Catch one cute bunny, make it baby pet."

[opaque scroll]

yeah consoles are just more portable PC's. theres nothing stopping you from doing the same with your own desktop

[hollow pulsar]

palia pal pass :0

[arctic onyx]

the homie pass

[torn zinc]

Yeah I'm agreeing with you. pc is equally convient to consoles nowadays

[celest maple]

If battlepass, probably cosmetic things like trophies or like decor

[solid marsh]

yes please for cute battle pass

[paper wing]

and it sets the expectation for a certain amount of time invested, which can be a trap

[soft bane]

I like passes, but pass skin and b2p would be much

[dapper shale]

Battle pass is cool, build chair, get more chair

[wispy wyvern]

nods, nods

"I see, yes, I see. It is good to have a hobby. Do you draw often? And especially the feets of the animals?"

[hollow pulsar]

or yknow, just call it a season pass

[prime cradle]

With SSDs I feel my comp boots as fast as my consoles.

[opaque scroll]

would it really? a one time buy with optional buyable cosmetics doesnt seem a lot tbh

[narrow pasture]

oh haha, the first 3 words totally threw me for a loop 😅😅 I took the entire tone from those completely in isolation

[wispy wyvern]

And you absolutely have to share the art @faint dawn

[arctic onyx]

as long as the battlepass only contains cosmetics

[celest maple]

I’m personally fine with a one-time purchase. My steam probably has spent over $3000 on games/dlc alone.

[fleet coral]

hello ladies and gentlemen

[wispy wyvern]

At that, what feet to buffalo have? I know Yak have cloven hooves

[dapper shale]

I want pets

[torn zinc]

ow my bad haha, I meant that it really isn't any different from the console experience.
Heck I played breath of the wild on my pc with a playstation controller behind my tv 😅

[dapper shale]

I want snacks

[solar stratus]

That's typically what battlepasses contain

[fleet coral]

anyone here like stardew?

[zinc plaza]

or what if you can opt into different parts of the game by buying them

[torn zinc]

No we all hate it with a fiery passion

[arctic onyx]

cough cough genshin cough cough

[opaque scroll]

oh yeah, any time a battlepass/lootboxes has items that actually effect gameplay, its OMEGA-scummy. example: any EA game in the past decade

[fleet coral]

aw well fair enough

[prime cradle]

Cloven

[hollow pulsar]

i mean genshin barely has any cosmetics

[slim mountain]

@fleet coral yes

[arctic onyx]

apex's battlepass has only had cosmetics and i love that game to death

[wispy wyvern]

nods I am now googling animal feet..

[fleet coral]

pogggg

[slim mountain]

Lots of people I think in here

[torn zinc]

No I think it's safe to say that the overlap between people who'd like stardew and are interested in this game is close to a 100% haha

[hollow pulsar]

same

[narrow pasture]

Man this chat actually flows so fast, most servers I'm in you're lucky to get a message every 10 minutes. It's very hard to keep up with.

I'm going to bed, I hope everyone has a great day/night 😊

[prime cradle]

My first google option was a song called "buffalo feet"

[zinc plaza]

the thing with genshin was that there was just different characters, some better then others

[fleet coral]

i see this is the server for me then xd

[opaque scroll]

the battlefront remakes and the fifa games are what im referencing. apex is the sole outlier for the company

[tardy cloud]

I like it but the day goes by way too fast to feel relaxed 😅 I get out of bed at 8 and by the time I'm out the door it's noon.

[acoustic herald]

I would really like someone to make a good case for cosmetics not being an important enough part of a social MMO to put some of it (usually the best ones) behind paywalls.

[patent adder]

Which kind

[torn zinc]

I agree, Everybody shut your pieholes so I can keep up

[wispy wyvern]

I saw that as well. I have progressed now to cutesy baby buffalos though.

[solid marsh]

my pc can def run Palia.

[fleet coral]

ye true, that's my pet peev about the game as a whole xd

[rich ember]

ayo when this game come out

[arctic onyx]

oh i never played a fifa game, and I've only tried battlefront when it went free on epic

[fiery lotus]

Soon tm

[patent adder]

Wholesome overflow 😄

[prime cradle]

Need a Soon TM emote

[rich ember]

i wanna play it now 😭😭

[solar stratus]

Even with the slowmode, it's fast

[fleet coral]

when it gets to 1:30 and you're on the wrong side of the map, too exhausted to run... yep, that's painful

[solar stratus]

Soon™️

[hollow pulsar]

the main flaw i see with apex’s battlepass is that the skins dont really have much variety in which legends it belongs to cough cough wraith cough cough

[opaque scroll]

yeah both of those games have LB models that are filled with items that actually effect gameplay. its the real reason everyone started getting on the case about LB's in the first place

[arctic onyx]

i wonder if the "adventure" side of the game is more of a riddle/puzzle solving thingy, kinda like sea of thieves

[tardy cloud]

Yeah I've had that happen a lot too. The townspeople frequently find me passed out on the street.

[slim mountain]

That’s bad for profits

Gotta get to bed on time

[opaque scroll]

the problem with that is that cosmetics are thhe ONLY thing you can put behind paywalls that isnt more gameplay content (such as expansions). its either expansions or cosmetics, or both

[burnt fulcrum]

now I really want puzzle solving, gib mee

[fleet coral]

with like 2000 gold gone xd

[hollow pulsar]

pls giv puzzle solv

[zinc plaza]

with palia tho i can imagine clothing pieces, furniture types and styles, wallpapers, hair styles so many things they could do simple cosmetics for that i wont mind

[opaque scroll]

@acoustic herald putting items that actually effect gameplay behind paywalls is super scummy and a great way to turn a playerbase off of the game

[paper wing]

maybe they could have group puzzle solving activites a la Puzzle Pirates

[arctic onyx]

yeah I'm all for the game having a "make your own life" aspect, but with optional story and puzzle quests that would give more context to the world

[wispy wyvern]

I would be quite annoyed though if I had to pay extra to unlock the Style Option B windows instead of just having the standard option windows, for example.

[torn zinc]

In a game like this, Cosmetics kind of are the gameplay though

[slim mountain]

Nah man it’s about that money making

[spice relic]

I'm stoked for all the Building, harvesting and material collection.

[burnt fulcrum]

Fashion is always the true endgame

[slim mountain]

And cosmetics... but #1 for me is making fake money

[acoustic herald]

How does cosmetics not effect gameplay though? If one of the main point of the game is to get cool cosmetics for your character and for your house, and some of the coolest things are only available for cash that makes the gameplay less enticing since the rewards are shittier than what's in the shop.

[distant lintel]

5 man dungeons

[opaque scroll]

not really? it depends on the kind of cosmetics id guess. like if better tools are behind paywalls im uninstalling. but if its like, lamps n stuff then im chillin

[torn zinc]

What if they don't have fake money, just fake cosmetics? :p

[fleet falcon]

I need the alpha all other games suck

[slim mountain]

Yea right, what do you spend the money on? Oh, more property

[distant lintel]

you never know this one might suck too

[fleet falcon]

Nah its gonna be lit

[opaque scroll]

thats a fair point. i guess the real answer is to have decent cosmetics in both areas. so that they arent competing with each other

[spice relic]

@fleet falcon valheim dosen't suck

[torn zinc]

At some point it all boils down to cosmetics and expressing your own sense of style and taste I'd say. Locking any of that behind a paywall will always lead to some frustration

[arctic onyx]

i wouldn't mind paying 2 dollars for a diamond sofa or something

[torn zinc]

exactly this* exactly what superior said*

[steel pewter]

When does the game come out??

[slim mountain]

lol diamond sofa

Much ouch

[distant lintel]

this game seems like it won't have many features compared to a real MMO

[steel pewter]

So it’s a fake mmo??

[paper wing]

what's a "real MMO"?

[distant lintel]

no dungeons or pvp

[fleet falcon]

I think anything that gives u an advantage over other players who spend time is unfair due to u can always make more than the next person but no one can create more time its finite resource

[burnt fulcrum]

and how many features does a "real MMO" have?

[torn zinc]

Probably not what you'd typically expect. As long as there are strong social elements that's fine I'd wager

[paper wing]

pvp ruined WoW btw

[opaque scroll]

yeah, it all comes back to a balancing act. plus the kinds of cosmetics. house stuff behind paywalls? scummy in this case (id guess), but like, clothing n stuff? i think thats fine

[celest maple]

Paying for furniture would just ruin the entire game simply because there should be a way to show off your “hard work” by what your furniture looks like.

I’d rather work up to having a leather couch, than to buy a leather couch with $

[arctic onyx]

a game that can host thousands of players in one given area? a good example being planetside 2

[steel pewter]

Is there going to be pve combat??

[distant lintel]

thry never stated 100 ppl in one area

[wispy wyvern]

Are those essential factors for a game to be massive, multiplayer and online?

[celest maple]

this is not wow :p

[acoustic herald]

Problem then being that it's completely subjective what cosmetics are good or bad. It's difficult. I'm hoping for no micro transactions, but I'm not naïve enough to expect it in this day and age.

[celest maple]

There will be some sort of combat, yes but probably won’t be a must to do.

[obsidian crypt]

I expect like 20 max lol

[spice relic]

There's nothing that said this game won't have dungeons

[arctic onyx]

MMOs don't need to be mindless dungeons and PvP to qualify as MMOs

[steel pewter]

Could it have dungeons?

[mellow verge]

It's just not going to be a standard mmo like we're used to

[fleet falcon]

If you're accounts value comes from what u look like and what ur house has in it then that means if you can buy a majority if cosmetics it devalues the game to players who spend time so its a very fine line to walk when implementing mtx

[arctic onyx]

MMO =/= MMORPG

[burnt fulcrum]

Gib me ruins to explore and puzzles to solve!

[celest maple]

There’s literally a photo on their website about discovering hidden truths and that looks like a dungeon or some sort of cave system lol

[weary karma]

lol one my best memories of wow was getting killed by a player from the other faction invading a town.

[steel pewter]

Does it have the trinity?? Tank heals dps?

[stable oar]

Haven't seen this much hype for a game in pre-alpha since D4 lol.

[spice relic]

Since they claim it could take years to unravel the story and background I'd expect many dungeons

[mellow verge]

Exactly bc it rewards people with money

[drifting orbit]

I don't agree with you, but I also don't think that a game needs to have a super strong combat focus to be an MMO.

[wispy wyvern]

Except this IS an MMORPG.

[soft bane]

Yes, mmo pull much more to social side that dungeon crawling or instanced arenas.

[torn zinc]

Some amount of instancing will likely be required in any game with housing as a core feature. That's fine. I think it would be setting yourself up for dissapoinment if your hoping for the whole server to have a house in the same instance

[celest maple]

GUYS this is a community simulator MMO

this is not like WOW

[spice relic]

I just wonder if its going to have a HUB system like the guild wars games

[acoustic herald]

Why would you expect something they've already stated they aren't sure will be in the game at all?

[distant lintel]

is this more equivalent to Second Life?

[opaque scroll]

true. its a tough act to maintain, but if they go with a F2P model with subbing post free time then i think they can get away with no micro-transactions other than real DLC. but if its purely F2P then mirco-transactions are guaranteed. maybe even with LB's

[spice relic]

@acoustic herald Oh they already said they won't add dungeons?

[burnt fulcrum]

"Palia is a massively-multiplayer community simulation game"
Taken directly from the site

[mellow verge]

Think rune factory but mmorpg with friends!
Not wow or ff14 or ESO

[wispy wyvern]

Good gods I hope not.

[arctic onyx]

in my opinion the only game that qualifies as an MMO is planetside 2, it actually hosts thousands of players on a single map (no sharding or phasing)

[fleet falcon]

Mtx models should steer far away from mmos the vast majority of the community would much rather pay a sub fee than allow mtx

[celest maple]

It has it on the website lol

[acoustic herald]

No, I think they've said they aren't sure about it yet.

[autumn portal]

Just discovered this title through a news article and I actually shed a tear, this just looks like something many could need, it's weird

[opaque scroll]

ah yes, the best game of all time. i see someone also has taste

[paper wing]

you have to keep in mind that MMO was coined as a phrase when 8 or 16 player LAN games were the multiplayer experience most people were having

[lean shore]

Bruh you kind of have to have some amount of sharding and phasing if you want your game to have a certain number of moving parts

[opaque scroll]

bingo, its just a buzzword meaning lots of people. just like the term MOBA as well

[spice relic]

@acoustic herald It would be a huge missed opportunity if they skimp on dungeon stuff. I don't expect raids and the like, but for the kind of lore they spoke of I would expect plenty of Ruins, old human places and stuch.

[arctic onyx]

that definition is outdated now that server tech has improved

[torn zinc]

I think that even if you put technical limits aside a game like this would likely be a big mess without instancing

[zinc plaza]

we need a voice chat

[torn zinc]

That too would likely be a big mess with this many people :p

[acoustic herald]

I guess that depends heavily on what someone would deem a 'dungeon' to be.

[opaque scroll]

we'll need a lot more than one chat room tho

[spice relic]

Voice chat for this many people would be cursed

[fleet falcon]

If the games good instancing don't matter

[arctic onyx]

too hard to moderate compared to text

[autumn portal]

"Dungeons" would actually be cool, like if you wanted to cook something really special, and say a rare piece of idk bear meat is pretty hard to get to, is an interesting concept to me

[opaque scroll]

yo in-game voice chat would be Pog tho NGL

[paper wing]

as Pog as Rust in-game voice chat?

[autumn portal]

Wouldn't the average person use discord witn whoever they decide to play with?

[mellow verge]

I think more people would use discord over an in game chat

[arctic onyx]

I've had some hilarious interactions on rust's voice chat

[torn zinc]

+1 for ingame voice chat. In this day and age I feel that should be a standard for anything mmo-like

[burnt fulcrum]

at least I wouldn't be alone in having problems hearing xP

[opaque scroll]

oh yeah, this game is gonna be a role-players wet dream if thats the case

[wispy wyvern]

OK so we could move the goalposts all night.
Are there going to be many people online at once? Check! , check and Check!

IS it a game? Check! Will you be playing the role of a character? Check.

[zinc plaza]

i can totally see a ruin expedition

[autumn portal]

Especially in wow the in game vc isn't really used despite being grear

[little shadow]

dear god please no in game voice chat. Ily all but I would rather not play than play and have to listen to everyone breathing hard into a mic

[fleet falcon]

In game chat for a social driven mmo would be hell to moderate

[stoic wave]

what does pre alpha mean? is that like invite only where you can play

[spice relic]

@acoustic herald yeah "dungeon" is pretty open ended. Dungeon for me is Ruins and pretty much any cave or underground thing.

[autumn portal]

Hah trueee

[patent adder]

Im going to agree with this. I can't be wholesome all the time 🥺

[acoustic herald]

Not when there's a chance to have profanities yelled at you when walking past someone. Companies don't really want all that heat necessarily.

[spice relic]

@stoic wave Yes

[sick perch]

symbol-only chat

[opaque scroll]

true, but thats why you have mods on the ground, or private servers available so that they can mod themselves

[torn zinc]

I'll come stand next to your house talking about meaningless gossip and drivel from dusk to dawn.
But no something toggable or invite based would be great

[arctic onyx]

proximity voice chat is pog

[celest maple]

Should probably have in game chat with people youre in party with lol

[wispy wyvern]

And the last thing you need is someone screaming like a distressed yak as you try and sip your tea on the porch.

[sinful osprey]

This pre alpha is invite only, then there will be the alpha, which we know nothing about but if we had to guess, same thing maybe

[arctic onyx]

global voice chat is not so pog

[paper wing]

having the option and using it are separate

[patent adder]

But the question is, does the yak have hooves or stumps

[little shadow]

I’m fine with like invite based VC just know I’ll reject them all uwu. And feel free to stand outside my house if you can get past the guard bees 🐝

[opaque scroll]

oh yeah, only prox voice is the way to go

[mellow verge]

For anyone who uses VC and plays mmos, I don't know many that use the in game service, they use discord

[spice relic]

How bout the Tesla bluetooth proximity chat lol

[patent adder]

I use TeamSpeak but yeah 😄

[opaque scroll]

too cool for school i see

[wispy wyvern]

Don't be so narrow of thought. It could have caterpillar feets or butterfly wings.. It could hover through a functional bouyant gas bladder and flap its ears to move forwards.

[spice relic]

I miss Ventrillo

[patent adder]

Heck yeah 😉

[mellow verge]

Never lol

[opaque scroll]

i dont miss skype, ill say that much

[torn zinc]

The technology should be there to have access to quick ingame VC. Kind of adds to the spontaneous nature of it all

[fleet falcon]

I hope I get in the alpha kind just want a good game most of the mmos now have started screwing thier own players for mtx models like not cool man i just want something that values my time invested not like wow where its gotten to the point that content is so devalued they sell you boosts to skip it all

[little shadow]

did anyone ever miss Skype tho

[celest maple]

nope

[opaque scroll]

microsoft does LULW

[spice relic]

What is skype?

[patent adder]

I don't like the thought of that 🥺

[opaque scroll]

an absolute nightmare

[spice relic]

I knows. lol

[mellow verge]

Pre-discord thing

[torn zinc]

You'll likely won't hear anything about MTX/monetization for a long time, that's kind of the risk here I suppose

[spice relic]

I'm old schools I used Yahoo messenger lol

[wispy wyvern]

Like a huge hairy balloon with horns that hoots at you until you give it some compressed grass biscuits.

[acoustic herald]

Pre-discord thing for people who didn't know about mumble, ventrilo, or teamspeak.

[mellow verge]

I did too haha

[little shadow]

that’s just me sorry

[opaque scroll]

real ones just email the homies

[patent adder]

😆

[wispy wyvern]

Ngl, I damn near fell off my chair laughing.

[mellow verge]

Let me get my beeper

[spice relic]

oof Of course I think ICQ was the first possibly

[torn zinc]

If you're really real you just send a carrier pidgeon

[opaque scroll]

TRUUUUUUUEE

[burnt fulcrum]

go big or go home, handwritten letters, wax sealed!

[opaque scroll]

i gotta get a wax seal. just for the flex

[wispy wyvern]

I actually found an old bit of paper with all my friends serial numbers on for ICQ the other day.

[spice relic]

The hell we talking about messengers for!! MOAR hype for this game we know little to nothing about!!!

[steel pewter]

Have they said any timeline for how far along the game is??

[acoustic herald]

I really do wonder how they'll actually encourage spontaneous social interactivity in the game, so that it's not just neighbourhoods chatting on discord with eachother a week after launch, and never speak to anyone else.

[fleet falcon]

Idc about mtx i care about company's making poo content so they can sell u the fix and skips its laughable i just want a good game with good content and it seems like the devs on this project have great experience and I hope they don't use that kind of model but even so ill still try the game to support people trying something new

[arctic onyx]

SOCIAL FEATURES YES multiplayer emotes, mail system, close friends/companion systems, jobs, etc

[wispy wyvern]

I am very keen to see more and varied critters. Maybe less Cronenbergian than some of my suggestions though.

[spice relic]

@wispy wyvern you just told everyone how old we are... 🤣

[acoustic herald]

Shorter than 3 years from launch.

[opaque scroll]

but yeah like in game prox VC would be insane. this game could EASILY overtake the likes of no-pixel. i could see content creators going absolutely nuts with it

[torn zinc]

I DEMAND PREORDERS NOW! TAKE MY MONEY!

[steel pewter]

Like will it be released next year?? Or still 3 years off

Ok thanks superior

[spice relic]

oof pre orders... do people still do that?

[little shadow]

with a setting to disable it pls

[torn zinc]

"We don't know" but also likely closer to 3 than 1 I'd imagine

[acoustic herald]

There's a reason why the server is locked with many rules though. Because people don't really want prox chat with randoms running around screaming at will.

[arctic onyx]

that's usually standard with games that have it

[buoyant salmon]

Hello everyone

[opaque scroll]

oh but of course! you have to have all the bells n whistles with it

[steel pewter]

With games usually getting extended I would imagine AT LEAST 3 years

[wispy wyvern]

As I understand it, to get where they are now it has taken 3 years of development.

[celest maple]

character creation for this game needs to be top tier

[torn zinc]

Companies still put up pre-orders before they even put out their first trailer....so I guess they do

[little shadow]

they’ve already mentioned that char* customization is important to them if that’s any help

[steel pewter]

With the hype cycle I can imagine they are trying to get as much publicity now to help with funding down the road

[celest maple]

Yeah it would make sense, since it’s a comm sim, everyone would want to have unique characters

[opaque scroll]

the answer to that is just opening private servers. let the roleplayers have their fun without ruining the experience for everyone. like, its a server option kinid of deal

[acoustic herald]

They've already stated they have the funding they need, not looking for community funding.

[opaque scroll]

you can make good money that way too

[torn zinc]

I'd imagine that you'd see multiple wipes during alpha and that you should really keep your expectations low if you do get in. It's not gonna resemble the end product or maybe not even a properly functional product out of the gate

[celest maple]

it would suck to see same looking people running around and eventually you won’t even need to see character names, because you’ll probably know who is who based on how they look

[spice relic]

BYE!!! gonna play some games. Hope I get to see folks in the pre alpha!!

[wispy wyvern]

I can foresee things speeding up though. Considering the reception they got from just a trailer the money guys are probably feeling fairly secure in their investment and perhaps wheels will begin moving with increased vigour.

[celest maple]

Sorry if it's been asked already but what are the cute pups called? the emote says 'Tau' in it but not sure if that's what they're actually called...

[opaque scroll]

like buy to play, with sub models for private servers

[wispy wyvern]

Boulfs.

[steel pewter]

I mean from actual investors, games get really expensive the longer they are in development

[mellow verge]

I'm sure they'll have anti grief against rp as one of the devs said they were an rper

[cyan basin]

Yakmoos

[prime fulcrum]

this game looks so cute I'm so happy it's going to allow playing with friends

[celest maple]

Is this a AAA MMO?

[wispy wyvern]

Has the laundry been vanquished ? @cyan basin

[celest maple]

many thanks, I had a feeling that was it given the TeamBoulf but wanted to make sure before I sported the tag myself xD

[arctic onyx]

indie mmo?

[celest maple]

Not Indie

[torn zinc]

More like AA, certainly not quite indie I think

[opaque scroll]

RP servers would do amazing for this game, id actually be surprised if they dont do anything for the RP audience

[fleet falcon]

I can't wait till someone decides to just make the oasis from ready player one i hope this is the first to push social driven mmos that encompass more than just fighting

[cyan basin]

it has been folded, sorted, mostly put away, and is now starting to be washed, in that order

just have to clean the cat box and my chores are done!

[torn zinc]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, 50 ish sized staff made up of ex blizzard/riot staff amongst others, funded fully by external investors (for quite a few millions I'd imagine)

[autumn portal]

Is the cat vanquished?

[wispy wyvern]

Hark, what madness storing cats in boxes.

[steel pewter]

I don’t know it depends on how close the animations in game are to the video… if they are close that would be AAA to me!!

[torn zinc]

It's certainly closer to AAA than indie

[celest maple]

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that this is a AAA MMO

[arctic onyx]

give me daily house chores in palia, like a house upkeep system

[celest maple]

I'd go with AAA, given the funding and 50-man team filled with serious talent.

[autumn portal]

Wait did they make an mmorpg with 50 people??

[little shadow]

I believe an article mentioned they raised $16mil? But not sure

[opaque scroll]

ooooooo AAA mmo means possible buy to play model

[arctic onyx]

obviously make it optional

[celest maple]

yup

[cyan basin]

They are cats, they are never vanquished, they just decide that they really wanted to go over here, out of the way, all along

[opaque scroll]

the immortal ones

[half granite]

excuse me, but what does this mean?

[steel pewter]

Hmmm yeah buy to play would seem to fit the idea a lot better imho

[arctic onyx]

the only AAA mmo I'm hyped for is the riot one

[torn zinc]

Yeah that's certainly a fair enough call. it's on the smaller side of AAA but it'd be unjust to call it indie

[sterile tide]

hey

[mellow verge]

I personally want b2p or sub cause Im sorry but f2p usually means a cash shop and there's little I accept being on those

[paper wing]

@half granite I think it means if you RP shame someone you get banned

[opaque scroll]

one of the devs is a roleplayer. so im sure the dev team is going to do something for the roleplay audience as this game is very suited for them

[arctic onyx]

knowing riot they will probably make it f2p with a cosmetics store, just like all of their games

[fleet falcon]

The trailer seems AAA but it can't be as bad as dreamworld

[sterile tide]

is RIOT and blizzard part of the development for Palia?

[arctic onyx]

no

[celest maple]

With it being AAA, it’ll most likely be buy to play

[opaque scroll]

including LB's of course

[cyan basin]

A couple of the devs are RPers and so experienced in dealing with griefers and are already putting systems in place to help keep it from being a problem

[steel pewter]

Eh I can’t imagine it WON’T have a cash shop, but no sub would be nice

[paper wing]

@sterile tide I believe just former staffers of said companies

[opaque scroll]

ex-riot/blizzard people are working on it. so its neither a riot nor blizzard game

[fleet falcon]

Mtx devalues content

[torn zinc]

Yeah riot is owned by chinese tencent. I'd be highly critical of anything they put out, especially in the mmo landscape

[hybrid star]

are there any sub-based mmos left that don't have cash shops?

[arctic onyx]

a lot of companies are owned by tencent idk

[sterile tide]

ohhh

[torn zinc]

Pretty sure there are none of note

[sterile tide]

so this company is self published?

[wispy wyvern]

Not so much any more.

[mellow verge]

Cash shop = rewarding people with money to 'throw away'

[steel pewter]

I thought this was an independent dev team?? This is a riot game??

[opaque scroll]

yeah china is just buying up gaming companies left and right

[half granite]

hum I think I understand, thank you you three
I'm new to this kind of game so I don't understand some terms or occurrences (like rp griefing)

[fleet falcon]

No cash shop esp if cosmetics and youre house is a main aspect of the game it will doa the game in the mmo community

[sterile tide]

what are the languages supported for the game?

[lavish remnant]

Easier to just assume tencent has a finger in something than figure out which ones it doesn't. lol

[mellow verge]

Its made of blizz and riot ex-employees

[steel pewter]

Yeah that doesn’t mean riot owns the game

[arctic onyx]

also former epic games devs

[celest maple]

This is a fully independent studio, with private funding. They just have a lot of former Riot, Blizzard and Zynga employees.

[opaque scroll]

so far, just english

[sterile tide]

sad:(((

[torn zinc]

Rp = roleplay, actively acting out and talking in a way that your characters would. Griefing is the act of purposfully harming or harassing other players work or progression.

[steel pewter]

Ahhh ok

[sharp obsidian]

We are independent backed by VC

[paper wing]

I think the way Epic works means any game dev has worked for them at some point

[sterile tide]

I wish we could get chinese translation

[mellow verge]

They do not own the game, it's yes, independent devs/ex-employees from those companies

[opaque scroll]

small team, but im sure thatll change with time

[wispy wyvern]

Violent Chapaas?

[celest maple]

Chuu*

[fleet falcon]

China is buying gaming company's cause they need that usd

[wispy wyvern]

Gesundheit.

[magic mist]

Valiant Chuus

[torn zinc]

I'm quite certain you will get that if the game meets any type of succes

[opaque scroll]

in game proximity violent chapaas

[mellow verge]

@half granite as someone who's rpd in many an mmo, griefing is people trolling you for no reason other than to disrupt your time

[sterile tide]

the chinese community players will be interested in the game

is there a date for the alpha?

[wispy wyvern]

Soon.

[serene jasper]

nope but ittll b soon

[zinc plaza]

the funny thing is, no matter what payment plan palia has, it will never be as greedy as WoW

[cyan basin]

Soon *tm

[mellow verge]

And it's usually against ToS to disrupt smoeones game time, because theyre usually paying to be there and if they dont get their money's worth, they quit and the mmo loses money

[torn zinc]

Not yet. A few weeks would be my best speculation.

[sterile tide]

oh ok thanks

[opaque scroll]

you can sign up to recieve a pre-alpha key, but its RNG if you get in or not.

[sterile tide]

Hope to see the game launch this year

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-hyperventilate-gif-8065170

[obsidian crypt]

At the very least we know it should happen before next quarter @sterile tide

[celest maple]

Singularity 6 is the company working on this game, the co-founder is Aidan

[slim mountain]

Should be this summer but not sure if weeks or months away

[sterile tide]

cool

[magic mist]

#❔│game-faqs dont be hating on other games pls

[little shadow]

Is there a particular etiquette for interacting with RPers as a non RPer? I’ve never really participated in RP myself but I’d like to make sure if I interact with others who are that I do so in a proper way

[sterile tide]

this game seems so relaxing

[zinc plaza]

im not hating on that game?

[torn zinc]

99 bucks weekly sub, locked out of playing after 23 seconds and you need to buy palia bucks to unlock your next action :p

[gilded sleet]

you know what this game reminds me off? Peria Chronicles

[zinc plaza]

its just a fact that their payments are pretty high

[hybrid star]

rip Peria.

[torn zinc]

Whatever happened to that game?

[burnt fulcrum]

Too soon ;-;

[mellow verge]

You can certainly ask what theyre up to but dont start jumping on us or spamming emotes etc. Respect them as you would someone irl.

[opaque scroll]

thats just mobile gaming LUL

[half granite]

I remember in this other game where we could place tables
they were solid so at certain point people would close paths with them, until they changed the mechanic so it was fixed

[wispy wyvern]

"Do you wish to plant a second carrot? Just $0.99"

[torn zinc]

I remember seeing that. And it looked pleasing

[gilded sleet]

NEXON axed the project

[obsidian crypt]

I'm so glad there's no energy / timegate mechanics in this game....

[fleet falcon]

This game is gonna be lit

[brisk ivy]

I think Peria was more sandboxy, right?

[autumn portal]

DUDE YES

[cyan basin]

be respectful, talk to them as if they are the character they are playing, send whispers with questions and most will be perfectly fine with explaining

[little shadow]

Ah yes ok! I normally do just this and not interrupt whatever they’re up to, I just wanted to make sure that’s like right lol

[arctic onyx]

NEXON is a horrific publisher

[gilded sleet]

Yeah, with card styled combat

[mellow verge]

I love new rpers and dont mind introducing people to it, but when you're disrespectful, we'll treat you like youre invisible so we can continue what we're doing XD

[lavish remnant]

can someone remake S4 League, plz and ty. lol

[autumn portal]

I try to rp in WoW and I straight up shit myself, the amount of pressure lol

[fleet falcon]

Rp is cool

[slim mountain]

Yea mobile gaming $ models are the worst

[gilded sleet]

Google S4 League Xero

[lavish remnant]

😮

[fleet falcon]

Mobile gaming models are a cancer to gaming

[opaque scroll]

how much mobile gaming have you done dawg? thats a nightmareish system designed by mobile games to force retention/incentivize players to spend real money

[gilded sleet]

If anything we need a GunZ remake lmao that game was beyond based

[opaque scroll]

yeah, and people think lootboxes are bad. wait till you play candy crush

[fleet falcon]

The monetization models tho companies use are str8 predatory to anyone with any semblance of gambling problems

[half granite]

rp is also part of the charm of games
being able to have more fun with things that you personally love is nice

[torn zinc]

The problem games in general face more than any other kind of media is that they're a product far before they're ever allowed to be anything remotely resembling art.

[slim mountain]

Ok my phone must be acting up bc I see people using other emotes. Idk why my phone does that sometimes.

[obsidian crypt]

@opaque scroll there's a mobile game out there I really love that has the single best monetization system for games like this

Maybe not the best, but really good

But it's confirmed here no energy or time gates. So we're good

[arctic onyx]

I've only ever rp'd in rust and it was usually to eliminate the person I'm rping with and steal their loot

[opaque scroll]

mogul moves

[fleet falcon]

They all use the same model lock all content behind a paywall hundreds high

[zinc plaza]

you know what palia needs, it needs crystals, $5 a crystal, and its the ingame currency, be fantastic

[paper wing]

@arctic onyx brutal

[celest maple]

No

[wispy wyvern]

in to the filing cabinet with you.

[opaque scroll]

just give me lootboxes instead man

[celest maple]

Can we not bring any mobile gaming stuff to a game like this lol

[brisk ivy]

I sort've wonder about their payment model for this game.

[gilded sleet]

What about a stamina system, everyone likes that, right?

[fleet falcon]

Mtx models should never touch any mmo

[worn pilot]

I'm gonna lock you into a loot box

[zinc plaza]

lootbox will cost 10 crystals each

[obsidian crypt]

No loot boxes 😬 they can monetize this with 0 gambling

[little shadow]

please only bring mobile gaming stuff to palia. Turn it into a giant angry birds /s

[paper wing]

@brisk ivy you'll probably be wondering a fair while longer

[torn zinc]

I think crystals should cost 4 bucks 98.571 cents for 237,4 crystals just so you're never quite sure what anything really costs

[fleet falcon]

If u bring mtx into an mmo ur asking to kill ur game within 5 years imo

[fervent swallow]

Did somebody say gacha bricks

[arctic onyx]

I'd rather pay for ultra deluxe supreme gold editions instead of having any of those

[zinc plaza]

you can refil your stamina for 2 crystals only 😮

[opaque scroll]

why not both?

[clear wraith]

Late to this reply-party but as a longtime RPer, as long as a non-RPer isn't jumping around in our midst causing an obvious disruption, it's A-OK. If you really want consideration brownie-points, say things in (()). ((Because this is generally accepted as "out of character" speak, where the player is saying something, not the character they're pretending to be.))

[gilded sleet]

Uff gimme gimme

[zinc plaza]

but dont worry guys, if yu buy it now you get a extra 5 crystals

[royal cipher]

I really like the art style and I'm new here, hi!

[dawn kettle]

Hello

[arctic onyx]

choosing the lesser evil sadly 😔

[opaque scroll]

fr fr

[burnt fulcrum]

why not ALL the monetization models?

[arctic onyx]

rainbow six does that pretty well

[opaque scroll]

NOW we're talking. i want to see an ad after EVERY carrot i plant

[fleet falcon]

Just wait till u wanna buy an upgrade to make ur house plot bigger and its 345 dollars

[brisk ivy]

I think microtransaction models are okay, because they sometimes do incentivize some really cool stuff that would've never otherwise been created. I just hope they don't go with a "Pay to reset this cooldown!" model.

[obsidian crypt]

@arctic onyx actually true lol

[wispy wyvern]

For completely unrelated products.

[fervent swallow]

I just want to vicariously live through 10 rolls hoping to get some wood planks to build my house

[opaque scroll]

cooldown models are very mobile oriented, and thankfully this isnt going to be a mobile game lmao

[gilded sleet]

Every lot will cost you about 25 USD and you will have to pay rent which is about another 200 USD plus taxes

[opaque scroll]

not even, for other MMOs LULW

[torn zinc]

Really inappropriate products and services

[celest maple]

Do you think this game will have a bunch of servers going at once & have limit on land available per city ?

[fervent swallow]

It's cheaper than actual rent

[opaque scroll]

i want to spend 100$ on rolling to get a fancy chair

[zinc plaza]

$40 to buy, $15 sub, $5 stamina refill, and you can buy a super castle for only $19, also in 2 weeks there is a new expansion for $35

[wispy wyvern]

"Buy this inflateable antibacterial moth hat"

[brisk ivy]

My guess is that they'll have phasing for player houses. Just my guess.

[celest maple]

I’m pretty sure there was an MMO that had land available for each player and once all land was taken you couldn’t build a house any more

[little shadow]

back to work I go, toodles Palia pals. If a dev confirms bees while I’m offline pls @ me ty 🌸🐝✨

[spare crag]

Wait so how would the payment be to play the game?

[opaque scroll]

oh god, imagine a real money rent system

[obsidian crypt]

@celest maple this won't have that

[mellow verge]

Oh hey there def needs to be a /emote system so it's: Username (rp text here) <--so there's no real need to put things in -text here-

[opaque scroll]

thatd be a nightmare

[wispy wyvern]

Nobody knows yet

[fervent swallow]

Will do

[torn zinc]

I "think" that you'll see very heavy instancing and that the amount of players per instance will be relatively moderate when it comes to housing. Or maybe all housing will just be instanced, also not impossible.

[fleet falcon]

Mtx models are simply predatory they arnt ok cause u spend money which u can make an infinite amount of and I spend time which is a finite resource they should never be in an mmo and if they are they should be purely cosmetics which in this game wouldn't work as the value is derived in a social mmo by what u look like and what ur house looks like from what I've gathered so if u can just buy thro that content u have devalued ur entire game

[spare crag]

ahhh okay

[arctic onyx]

will housing be physical or instanced, because the trailer made it seen like you can clear out any chunk of land and build a house on it (similar to rust)

[burnt fulcrum]

You get the carrots through lootboxes, which are exchanged for the $5 crystals

[zinc plaza]

tigermonkey, you are a genius, we should have real rent

[little shadow]

Imagine it based on irl rent. “You want a house? 2000$ a month”

[zinc plaza]

isnt there a mmo that lets you buy spaceships for very high prices

[opaque scroll]

insert spongebob leaving meme here

[gilded sleet]

ArcheAge had a similar system but land was limited and basically there was a land rush each time a new server opened

[torn zinc]

I'd imagine this would really have limits. It would get messy real fast.

[fleet falcon]

Star citizen but that game is insane

[arctic onyx]

stat citizen, hasn't even released yet

[tardy cloud]

Star Citizen

[worn pilot]

So we all agree we are all going to be in one big neighborhood right?

[zinc plaza]

i wanna mortgage my house ingame and rent it out

[celest maple]

this game might not have instances housing it’ll probably allow u to build on any piece of available land but have few hundred servers to accomodate for how many players there will be

[spare crag]

say less

[sour gorge]

housing is instanced

[obsidian crypt]

@celest maple housing is semi instanced everyone can have a house

[opaque scroll]

ah yes, star citizen. the greatest scam in gaming history

[brisk ivy]

The issue with non-instanced player housing in a social leaning MMO is that everyone will want it.

[sour gorge]

nah it's instanced. Already confirmed by the devs

[prisma portal]

I'm so excited for this game it looks so good

[fleet falcon]

Its gonna be awesome

[arctic onyx]

rust doesn't suffer from that mess probably because it's a pvp game and raiding/destroying others' bases is part of the gameplay loop

[torn zinc]

I spend 100k on my private starship enterprise and ya'll are gonna be so jelly when the game finally comes out 😎

[celest maple]

OR, it’ll be similar to BDO where there’s spaces where everyone can choose to build their houses, but it’ll be stacked so, 2 people can build on the same land

[wispy wyvern]

👀

[slim mountain]

Instanced housing confirmed

[celest maple]

ah okay

[zinc plaza]

it would be impossible to open your house up to the world wouldnt it

[slim mountain]

It’ll probably be like animal crossing

I’m guessing

[zinc plaza]

unless you pay $15 for a open world house that is!

[celest maple]

Well, yes, because it’ll also be everyone else’s house so what you probably be seeing is just a default home

[torn zinc]

Yeah that's the big difference I think. People would just quickly be upset that all the nice spots are taken in a game like this.

[wispy wyvern]

I'm definitely in the pro physicalised neighbourhood group

[fleet falcon]

Can we just have the alpha now dad

[tardy cloud]

So thankful I never bought the thousands of dollars worth of ship packages as many did. I regret the $60 I spent like 2 years ago and from what I've seen the game is essentially the same pre-alpha that it was back then.

[sour gorge]

they only have 1 style in the alpha but you can move the rooms around to make your own layout

[brisk ivy]

I think New World is doing something interesting with their player housing, where it's phased like BDO, but the default house shown out in the world is the top voted.

[viscid aurora]

I kinda hope the game doesn't have prox chat or atleast has limited vc since vc in games are terrible cause people

[opaque scroll]

thats actually genius. personal instanced islands that are entirely remodellable

[fleet falcon]

Fk new world dead on arrival

[gilded sleet]

so if the housing is gonna be instanced then i guess there will be no stealing or griefing

[fleet falcon]

Mtx into the ground

[arctic onyx]

that's what swords of legends online does

[grim harness]

VC is also pretty hard accessibility wise ;_;

[torn zinc]

99.99% sure they wouldn't want those types of features

[lavish remnant]

I'll probably play New World. lol

[half granite]

hey, I don't know many mmos, so it might be pretty unrealistic
but imagine if we could build various autonomous towns that would be like a private server alone from the world server (?), like a big guild hall? and then each town could be like a big guild, with shops run by players and etc, and competitions between towns and-

[slim mountain]

I just meant like housing wise, like you go to someone’s property sort of like an island in animal crossing

[opaque scroll]

the trick is to have it for private servers, not the main ones

[edgy steeple]

i really hope mtx won't be a thing in this

[fleet falcon]

New world is gonna mtx u so hard u actually start playing mobile Chinese games

[grim harness]

especially if it's a "relaxing" game with "community" 😂😂

[gilded sleet]

aw thats no fun 🙂

[celest maple]

But what i don’t get is, you can’t have everyone going to the same area for their homes it wouldn’t make sense

[lavish remnant]

I have no money so im not worried about MTX lol

[arctic onyx]

the game has improved so much since the last alpha, I'm kinda looking forward to it

[opaque scroll]

exactly! you dont have like, a house or room, but your own island. thats brilliant

[sour gorge]

why not? Thats what instanced housing is.

[wispy wyvern]

I beta tested it. I am glad I did not buy it. And I say that as a StarCItizen backer.

[lavish remnant]

I'm gonna keep it chill and just fish and what not. lol

[rancid stump]

I'm glad housing is instanced. The housing on FFXIV is a mess with how a house is never free, people sell those plots of land for 10x their value

[brisk ivy]

I don't play games that MTX so much that I can't get away with paying $15 or less per month.

[celest maple]

because how does that feel like a community simulator mmo if everyone’s house is the exact same house on the game BDO housing would be more “community like”

[arctic onyx]

oh I'm definently getting it for that messy pvp

[slim mountain]

Since there are several different regions it probably won’t be just one place where everyone goes... Idk though all theory crafting atm

Just know they said instanced

[zinc plaza]

they could make a voice chat, but you gotta be a member for a certain amount of time

[opaque scroll]

yeah FF14's model is a nightmare

[tardy cloud]

Maybe there will be portals to get to your home, like RuneScape housing

[lavish remnant]

XD

[sour gorge]

we dont know exactly how its working just that it's instanced

[zinc plaza]

but yeh to many people maybe haha

[fleet falcon]

New world gonna literally took rested exp down in the game so they could sell u it in cash shop lol they are devaluing content and creating problems to sell the fix before the game even releases

[gilded sleet]

I predict everyone is gonna have a house in their personal instance and then everyone can meet at the town hub or something, and from there you can quest or buy crops

[fleet falcon]

That game is dead on arrival

[celest maple]

So let’s say i decide to go home to rearrange, there would probably be a bunch of people AFK in front of my house because that’s the place where everyone’s instanced home would be

[wispy wyvern]

It's as if the studio is owned by a ruthless and unscrupulous megacorp....

[lavish remnant]

I played vanilla WoW, lvling in New World without any bonuses will be cake

[sour gorge]

We dont know if thats how it works.

[slim mountain]

That sucks bc I already preordered it

[mellow verge]

If they can instance it farther from the homestead, then that wont happen

[opaque scroll]

is rested exp really that big of a deal-breaker? i feel like theres many other things that would kill the game over jus tthat

[edgy steeple]

if they had voice chat and non-instanced housing it might be cool if they had a pseudo proximity chat you could join?

[celest maple]

Yeah abs my point was if the housing is instances you need to have different locations available for that instances house so there will be a bunch of people that chose house A and there’s house B C D E F ETCETC to make the city feel like a city

[slim mountain]

Not a deal breaker as much as selling rested xp

[fleet falcon]

Its about the fact that before the even released the game they are creating problems to sell u the fix lol

Thats asking to kill ur game

[arctic onyx]

if housing is instanced then what do we really do in the open world? other than gathering and killing mobs?

[mellow verge]

Ok so as I said earlier today, overall wow garrisons are bad, HOWEVER, they gave a really wide berth of instancing so you never saw other players in/around your garrison, it was truly your own little space and felt open. Just walk out far enough and you saw other players load in

[zinc plaza]

maybe like a voice chat room you can make with password, so you and your friends can join,

[arctic onyx]

how do we leave our mark on the world?

[mellow verge]

gather resources

[zinc plaza]

and maybe a neighborhood vc

[opaque scroll]

the voice chat idea is sick, its just gotta be a server wide thing i think. like, sell private servers that have proximity vc on so that roleplayers can game/make content in peace

[slim mountain]

Oooh how about neighborhood settlements you can see grow?

[gilded sleet]

integrated VC in mmo's are doodoo

[slim mountain]

Idk 😬

[celest maple]

But the game is based on building your own neighbourhood kind of, where every player is gonna have their own home so it would only make sense to have multiple plots where a house could be built

[zinc plaza]

or vc only works in a neighborhood/instanced house

[fleet falcon]

U could proximity chat if u had less than 2k players on a server

[celest maple]

imo anyway

[edgy steeple]

maybe have both options, a proximity chat AND a server wide chat?

[wispy wyvern]

But surely you want the opposite for a game that highlights community interaction as one of it's pillars.

[slim mountain]

Yea I don’t want voice. If you want to use voice just use discord

[mellow verge]

ff14 housing as far as neighborhoods is good aside from the obvious limited housing

[rancid stump]

I'll be surprised if there isn't voice chat in this game

[fleet falcon]

Anything more than 2k players with proximity chat would be so toxic

[rancid stump]

Yeah everything is great except the limit

[mellow verge]

so add in the idea of ff14 neighborhoods but instance of your own home

[gilded sleet]

proximity vc could pass but open chat is asking for trolling

[zinc plaza]

having voice chat for your own home sounds so fun

[rancid stump]

And maybe the building is a bit shitty ngl

[slim mountain]

You can’t regulate what people say on voice either

[edgy steeple]

depends on how big the proximity it compared to the server

[viscid aurora]

I kinda hope neighborhoods have guild halls which are just neighborhoods

[opaque scroll]

i think no voice chat for main servers is the best course of action. but have it enabled for private ones. let them do their own moderation without havinbg to worry about it on your own servers

[rancid stump]

Relying on glitches to make the building system work for what you want to make isn't a good system

[fleet falcon]

I think selling players a private server with limited capacity for content creation would be sick then you don't need mtx

[slim mountain]

They have security in mind for underage people. A proximity voice could be problematic

[edgy steeple]

that would be pretty neat, having a physical location for your guild instead of a incorporeal entity

[fleet falcon]

Idk how u could implement it exactly but would be sick

[rancid stump]

It'd be easier just to make voice chat opt in when you load into it

[arctic onyx]

i really feel like games like rust and valheim have spoiled me, mmo housing will always be meh compared to them 😔

[brisk ivy]

If it's a social game, I hope they let friends zone into each other's homes without needing to ask for permission or be within a group. Nothing makes player housing more anti-social than being a mostly single player experience.

[mellow verge]

A game meant for everyone cant really have proximity chat. and I personally wouldnt ever have mine turned on

[fleet falcon]

Nah voice chat should only be on rp servers for content creation and there should be rules and heavy monitoring of it it would create a hassle on the company they prob wouldn't need with 50 employees

[rancid stump]

Yeah agreed, I imagine it'd be really good in palia seeing as it's a main feature

[opaque scroll]

but then the problem becomes people griefing the roleplayers/content creators with no recourse. whereas private servers can bypass trolls

[marsh basalt]

MO2 has proximity chat, looks fun

[vague jackal]

I get you, but it would add to the immersion insanely.

[mellow verge]

Id rather be in discord then with a group

I dont need in game for what I can do here

And I dont have to worry about strangers

[opaque scroll]

big true, you can always just not have ingame VC

[vague jackal]

At that point it just needs to be able to be turned off

[hidden rampart]

Just have a toggle

[rancid stump]

Just ban the bad actors or have it set where you can only hear VC from people on your friend's list

[fleet falcon]

I agree gotta come up with a solution to instance housing that doesn't make you feel disconnected or like ur playing a single player game with aspects of multi-player

[mellow verge]

That is why I said Id have proximity/in game vc turned off

[sick perch]

Implement friend codes for vc

[opaque scroll]

thats a great idea actually. prox voice chat for friends only is a great idea

[arctic onyx]

I just wanna run around and shout eren jaeger

[fleet falcon]

Ya friends only voice chat proximity would be sick

[brisk ivy]

No need for friend codes if you got a friend system. 😆

[gritty veldt]

screeches every time i catch a fish or see a funnie creature

[opaque scroll]

so maybe have a global in-game prox VC, with the options to change who you can hear or not

[celest maple]

Eren 😭😂

[gilded sleet]

I feel like the vast majority are gonna have vc turned off lol then, so I dont see any reason to implement that option in the first place. Besides this game looks like is not gonna require a high level of coordination

[clear wraith]

I always have VC turned off unless I'm doing something in a group that needs realtime coordination (like a raid). I'm a very shy birb.

[opaque scroll]

like friends only, or guild only or global etc

[sick perch]

but I liked dialing in the numbers 😆

[vague jackal]

Lol! I want to be in my home decorating, then hear someone talking about how much Deku sucks because he cry's too much lol

[fleet falcon]

Ya i wouldn't mind that tiger

[wispy wyvern]

Well peeps I am gonna shoot off. Been a pleasure as always.

[fleet falcon]

Deku kinda does suck tho

[clear wraith]

Also randos cracking up might be ruining that great music I'm listening to or that nice headspace I'm in.

[gritty veldt]

the vc for homies only is a good idea

[brisk ivy]

If they got a party system, VC for party would work.

[gritty veldt]

they do have a party system! 4 people as of now

[arctic onyx]

what if i have 6 friends?

[royal cipher]

That's a good number

[fleet falcon]

Dad pls let me into alpha

[opaque scroll]

but thats the way you can do it on a global scale. they could just go "nah private servers only" to make implementing VC much easier on the dev team

[wispy wyvern]

Going to leave you with this thought though.
"Yakmoo mozzarella balls"

Goodnight.

[gritty veldt]

vote two off the island

[brisk ivy]

I hope they have a raid party system, so I can raid the fridge.

[burnt fulcrum]

night, Kae 👋

[opaque scroll]

the impostors

[gilded sleet]

honestly devs could just open a few discord vc channels and call it a day lmao, integrated vc is such a waste in this game

[viscid aurora]

hungry

[arctic onyx]

damn gotta inform the homies 😔

[gritty veldt]

total drama island style

[opaque scroll]

the impostors

[vague jackal]

How about being able to go in random homes to break pots for rupees lol.

[mellow verge]

Youre in the wrong game kupo!

[arctic onyx]

what about catching wild life and then making them fight each other

[edgy steeple]

that'd be pretty funny tbh

[brisk ivy]

Plant bombs next to walls to reveal hidden rooms.

[opaque scroll]

i wouldnt call it a waste. making it so that theres many ways for players to interact in the game allows for a closer knit community imho

[vague jackal]

Oh noo lol

[opaque scroll]

thats just animal creulty, but hey we all play pokemon so

[mellow verge]

I hope we have a pet companion system

[arctic onyx]

let's be less cruel then, race the animals?

[viscid aurora]

hey you pikachu

[gritty veldt]

looking forward to the day i don’t see any default emojis on the server

but for now 😔😔😔😔😔😔

[viscid aurora]

😉

[opaque scroll]

plus giving content creators many ways to play is essentially just free advertising. lord knows them OTV people would go ape mode with in-game prox VC

[spice wyvern]

[arctic onyx]

nah i will keep my default emojis on lock 🥶

[gilded sleet]

I'm just taking it from the devs perspective, why would I complicate my life to implement a feature that very few people will use if we already have a means to do it and way easier, you feel me?

[weary orbit]

Hey everyone. I'm João. How are you?

[arctic onyx]

hello

[gritty veldt]

howdy

[viscid aurora]

Howdy João doin pretty well

[edgy steeple]

ooh that would be neat

[spice wyvern]

prox vc as a paid feature for private neighborhoods perhaps sounds reasonable

[opaque scroll]

some of the devs are roleplayers themselves. if anything i think theyre more incentivized to include it cause thats how they like to play

[latent blade]

I wants my chuu learn Thundershock

[weary orbit]

what is chuu?

[arctic onyx]

prox vc with an overcomplicated ai to catch the rats

[brisk ivy]

I suppose that would be correct. Like friends and guilds already use 3rd party voice chats. Voice chat in-game would be better for when you meet new people, like in a party.

[gritty veldt]

main vocal of loona

[latent blade]

An animal

[weary orbit]

Ooohh, ok

[opaque scroll]

but i do get you. its an audience thing i think. and the more audience you can bring the better imho

[gilded sleet]

That's also a good point, depending on how far they want to support RP in this game I guessss it might be a good idea?? But we will have to wait and see

[mellow verge]

yus! And letting them free wander your housing area would be great t oo

[wooden widget]

same as Chapaa but lesser

[mellow verge]

Ok but can I say, I really find rp in vc to be weird XD I cant do it

[arctic onyx]

ayo that sounds like club penguin

[edgy steeple]

especially if you can have more than one out in your housing at a time???

[misty merlin]

Any news on server locations? Are there only going to be NA servers for alpha?

[carmine bloom]

orbit?? haha

[wooden widget]

I think #❔│game-faqs answers that

[gentle flame]

Had the same question 😄

[weary orbit]

animal of the game?

[gilded sleet]

Me neither, that's way too nerdy for me

[mellow verge]

I havent played Club Penguin, I know ESO lets you place your animals and let them walk around on a set path that you make

[opaque scroll]

bingo. it also depends on how big you want the project to be yknow? do you want everyone to be able to VC? or do you want it to be an option for the private server users? i think in-game prox vc is the way to go for private servers, whereas the main ones just have text chat. let the private servers moderate themselves type-deal

[burnt fulcrum]

This is Chuu/Chapaa

[mellow verge]

Like, I can do dnd but over the internet id rather to text. Partly bc I dont sound like a guy but rp one lol

[weary orbit]

I understood

[misty merlin]

It doesn't say anything about server locations.

[mellow verge]

I think pre-alpha is NA only

[wind night]

all i ask from the dev team is please implement a feature for us to PET animals 😄

[gritty veldt]

(i don’t understand the chuu/chapaa discourse and at this point i’m too afraid to ask)

[viscid aurora]

war

[opaque scroll]

PETTING IS MANDATORY

[gilded sleet]

Private servers hmmm, I also think that might create more problems. I feel like having private servers will only split the community more which totally the last thing this game wants

[wooden widget]

Oh it was "Channel" my bad, you might have luck finding specific question asked in #❓│old-team-answers-pre-alpha

[weary orbit]

I'm Brazillian. Looking forward to the game's arrival

[arctic onyx]

still burnt by not being able to pet the dog in botw

cmon nintendo i wanna see that in the sequel

[wind night]

i must pet all the good bois and gurls

[opaque scroll]

true, but it could be for the better. not everyone wants to peep in on your improv bits yknow? some just want to play

[mellow verge]

at least you can feed it!

[arctic onyx]

but can i feed on the dog?

[mellow verge]

yeah in botw you can feed them meat

[rancid stump]

There won't be private servers seeing as it is an mmo

[gritty veldt]

every day i log into genshin impact and everyday i leave feeling hollow and numb knowing that i couldn’t pet the good frend

[gilded sleet]

kkkk welcome

[arctic onyx]

the game lets me hunt wolves, how are dogs any different?

[weary orbit]

Thank's

Will it be possible to have cats and dogs with us or at home in the game?

[mellow verge]

shrug

[edgy steeple]

maybe not private servers, but just private VCS?

[arctic onyx]

they could just use discord at that point

[opaque scroll]

yeah im thinking you take VC in two routes: 1. let people have private servers so that they can do their roleplay in peace or 2. have settings options for vc like friends/guild/party/global etc

[arctic onyx]

don't see the need for private servers

[gritty veldt]

last i checked it seems like they’re still iffy about private servers

[mellow verge]

Private servers for mmo usually are against tos. Mmos are generally different from other games that allow it.
Rust =/= wow etc for that type of mmo.
It's different if you want to play with randoms or friends in conan or arc

[burnt fulcrum]

I've gotten carried away quite a bit here.... The clock just struck 3 AM.
I'm heading to bed, night peepz

[gritty veldt]

gn !

[wind night]

Gn

[mellow verge]

good night

[full merlin]

Goodnight

[opaque scroll]

in game proximity voice chat leads for better improv bits/roleplay versus discord servers. im just thinking in a content creation light because thats how you get free advertising for your game

[mellow verge]

I think text rp greatly outweighs voice rp

[gilded sleet]

I think Tiger means like an instance area for the boys, right? Like a private quarters for a guild for example

not a whole ass private server for them

[opaque scroll]

not even, just like have options to only hear friends/guild/party members type deal

that OR private servers

[cinder comet]

@mellow verge yaaaas! I'm so excited for the rp aspect

[mellow verge]

Ill rp with anyone, just be nice to muh boi

[opaque scroll]

or both, you can do both too

[brisk ivy]

Proximity voice chat provides something that voice chats outside of the game cannot provide. They should definitely have it toggled off by default, though.

[arctic onyx]

since the game is pve only, how about a player visibility filter?

[glacial tide]

@opaque scroll Sorry proxy chat tends to be toxic 99% of the time

[opaque scroll]

and private servers are a great way to monetize too

[cinder comet]

@opaque scroll yeah, look at minecraft realms

[arctic onyx]

that should solve the rp and proximity vc problem

[mellow verge]

Maybe just an option for a 'normal' server or an 'rp' server, not private ones

Like wow has rp, normal, rpvp, pvp

[opaque scroll]

if its global, yes. but if you make options to limit who you can and cant hear, that clears the trolls out really easily

[sinful ether]

As it’s being billed as an MMO, I don’t suspect private servers will be an offering

[mellow verge]

and ff14 has unofficial rp servers

[brisk ivy]

Did they say anything about having an economy in the game? Private servers would be really bad if so.

[mellow verge]

I think theres trading?

[sterile tide]

is palia free to play? or pay to play

[mellow verge]

No one knows

[arctic onyx]

wd don't know

[gilded sleet]

I could never do vc rp, rp in general. I'm hella toxic lol

[glacial tide]

It's going to be instanced/shards anyways so you'll just be around whatever the servers puts you next to 🤷‍♂️

[arctic onyx]

this is the sad truth 😔

[mellow verge]

Porting to friends shard will be a thing, I think given answers

[gritty veldt]

there is plans for an economic system and trading im pretty sure

[gilded sleet]

and a vast majority of ppl in the internet are assholes so I think vc would cause more problems than good

[mellow verge]

Not to compare too much to eso but I like their porting/shard system.
There's like 2 mega servers and you can port to a friend if youre not loaded into the same shard

[opaque scroll]

ye its just not your scene, but it is for some. im just spitballing ways to hit every audience. and this game seems to be big on the "pro-rp'ers" idea

[gritty veldt]

if you’re able to filter who you vc with tho that eliminates some problems

[opaque scroll]

bingo, like only hearing those in your party/friends-list/guild etc

[arctic onyx]

albion has a single large server where the entire game's population plays on, it's pretty cool but is quite a technical hurdle

[gilded sleet]

i swear i wasn't like this but i got into League oh god help me

[gritty veldt]

no one can help you now. you’re on your own m8

[winged basalt]

I wouldn't even put integrated voice chat on the to do list honestly... they're already using discord, just integrate discord and make it easy

[arctic onyx]

filter proximity vc and player visibility

[wind night]

a pet peeve of mine in games is good lip syncing when NPCs talk and such

i hope that is synced up well

[opaque scroll]

bingo! as long as theres ways to filter out the trolls, i think VC is a great include

[gilded sleet]

maybe this game will cleanse my impure soul

[arctic onyx]

the best lip synching I've ever seen was in the new tomb raider games

[wind night]

thats for dang sure!

[mellow verge]

I was gonna go play wow then got sidetracked in here.
And remembered wow doesnt have housing lays down to die

[gritty veldt]

if i can’t yell about the fish i caught or funnie creachure i saw when i’m gaming with the homies then what’s the point

[viscid aurora]

cri

[opaque scroll]

oh i doubt that, leagues toxicity even spreads over different genres. overwatch used to be soo fun ;__;

[mellow verge]

Wow content creators: MAKE HOUSING
WoW devs: did...did you hear something?

[winged basalt]

Simple, stop playing wow... save money, buy Palia when it comes out. And nothing of value will be lost

[mellow verge]

Im gonna finish my month and likely stop again for a while

[viscid aurora]

same

[arctic onyx]

actually mInEcRaFt has the best housing system known to man 🤓

[opaque scroll]

dw im a league player too. it runs in the family LULW

[opaque scroll]

valheim

[gilded sleet]

is because everything has to be eSports now ffff i hate it

[mellow verge]

Ppsssh I hardly like MC tbh

[gritty veldt]

my dirt hut would have to agree

[mellow verge]

I enjoy Dragonquest

[winged basalt]

I built a house with a rocket that can fly me to the MOON on the roof... minecraft wins

[mellow verge]

DQBuilders was a lot more fun to me and has quests

[winged basalt]

MC has quests

... well modded MC does

[mellow verge]

Lol see

[arctic onyx]

you ever tried no man's sky?

[mellow verge]

I dont have MC on pc anyways, I have it on ps4

I tried NMS, wasnt into it

[gilded sleet]

u mean Uno Reverse Card: The Game?

[opaque scroll]

honestly? its also a super american thing too. american culture breeds both impatience and passion. and combining those 2 things under a competitive umbrella leads to a bad time. not to say other regions cant be toxic, it sjust that we're the worst

[arctic onyx]

yes

[real kestrel]

Logan Paul or Floyd?

[winged basalt]

Ok I am pain free right now, and have about another 4 hours of that before the meds start wearing off... time to get sleep

[opaque scroll]

no mans is PogU ngl

[winged basalt]

I don't have to wake up at 4am tomorrow... joy

[arctic onyx]

it really is

[mellow verge]

Looks at Brazil and EU for their 'football' sports

[gilded sleet]

Hey, man here in Taco Land we are sweaty as hell as well, we always want to get in on everything to get that bag

[mellow verge]

No one is more passionate about sports than south americans and football imo

[gritty veldt]

well i wouldn’t say it’s necessarily an american thing so much as it’s a man thing. gaming has long been and still is a male dominated space, and the esports scene is like exclusively men lol

[gilded sleet]

tru tru, based comment

[viscid aurora]

I dont think sports is american exclusive

[fleet coral]

xd

[mellow verge]

Isnt soccer/football the most popular sport on earth?

[arctic onyx]

yes

[viscid aurora]

yes

[opaque scroll]

yeah but women can also be toxic too. i wouldnt say its exclusive to gender. i think its a cultural thing

[mellow verge]

and thats not an NA thing even

[iron tree]

broooooooooo I just n eed this game to like yknow just drop already so I can have a peaceful community

[undone rover]

It's just competitive games in general there will always be toxic people and I'm pretty sure being a butthole isn't American exclusive xd

[mellow verge]

Yeah I dont get sports tbh

[arctic onyx]

the next world cup will actually be held at where i live

[paper mulch]

hey hey peeps

gimme the game already 😄

[opaque scroll]

im saying!

[leaden belfry]

Hello everyone

[gilded sleet]

Palia Competitive Garding League when

[arctic onyx]

Palia esports will be pog

[leaden belfry]

Im from Ecuador, nice to meet you all!

[viscid aurora]

I like sports to trash talk and get trash talked by my friends

[old walrus]

do we know when the alpha will begin?

[arctic onyx]

have you guys ever seen farming simulator tournaments?

[gilded sleet]

if Farming Simulator could get into esports so can Palia

[opaque scroll]

oh yeah no its not exclusive to NA. making assumptions like that is what divides people. but to say we arent really bad with toxicity in gaming would be false

[viscid aurora]

that is it, I have no idea what is occuring but there is a lot of yelling and thats all I need

[rancid stump]

When there is competition there will always be sore losers and toxic people, whether it's raiding in MMOs or playing an eSports game or grinding skills on say RuneScape, it always happens

[mellow verge]

I didnt mind american football for a while but never really had that team spirit or I guess Im just not a competitive person. I only enjoy some mario party or kart racing on console

[leaden belfry]

hmm

[fleet coral]

mmmmm

[gritty veldt]

oh for sure!! women can be hella toxic. but the gaming culture was pioneered and basically created by men, especially when we consider gatekeeping

[opaque scroll]

Facts, Palia speedruns when?

[gilded sleet]

I've seen the tourneys lmao, lowkey they're hype af ngl

[sour canopy]

Hellooooo

[arctic onyx]

Palia pumpkin carving tournaments

[opaque scroll]

i think the gatekeeping is the worst issue in gaming tbh. worse than the toxicity

[sour canopy]

I'm a walking, talking hotdog with sunglasses, who wants to be friends?

[rose vector]

Hi

[mellow verge]

Even after 15 years of being online, many things are still geared towards males in games. Which kind of sucks
And I see things for the female audience that treats us like we're 'delicate' and I dont like that

[gritty veldt]

i think that the gatekeeping is a product of the toxicity, a symptom of you will

[sour gorge]

care to share what you mean?

[gritty veldt]

MALE GAZE INTENSIFIES

[viscid aurora]

not enough women in programming we need moar

[sour canopy]

Wait huh

[sudden rain]

I'd definitely like to see more single player games with female leads, but i struggle the most in mmo spaces where people assume i'm a cis woman...ffxiv was better but i definitely dealt with some wild sexual harassment issues and condescension

[arctic onyx]

THIS the most, I've always had an issue with female armor in video games not matching the male version of the same armor in design

[gilded sleet]

oh uh this topic is getting POLITICAL

[undone tartan]

I'm a woman, and I've been playing video games since I was a child. I played WoW as a little kid back in TBC. Female gamers have always been there, they've just been pushed out of online multiplayer games because of toxicity.

[celest maple]

I used to be obsessed with this rpg which had a mostly female following

[opaque scroll]

yeah the genderism in gaming is still a shockingly large divide, but i also think thats because gaming is still very new in terms of entertainment media. itll get better over time, but i agree it isnt moving fast enough

[opaque scroll]

armor bikinis will never cease to make me laugh, its so blatantly bogus

[mellow verge]

Video games include sexy female characters and leave out options for women.
Games created by women often aren't as fun (i know fun is subjective) but still treat us like we need less competitive or violent games

I enjoy the same things as a guy does but I want options too! That's why Im glad for games that have male npc to romance or options to make female character taht arent over sexualized

[arctic onyx]

it really is

[sour gorge]

Gaming is not new in the entertainment industry. IT makes more than both the movie and music industry combined.

[sudden rain]

i don't mind there being some sexy armor i just don't think it should be the only option

[spice wyvern]

😳 chu bikinis

[sudden rain]

also when it's the majority 😬

[celest maple]

Oh god 😳

[opaque scroll]

video gaming is only like, 30 years old. thats still hella young

[lavish remnant]

Need more Ghislaine, but in gaming. lol

[mellow verge]

Women do make up over 40% of gamers in NA alone (so I read a time ago) so it's not like we're not here, we're just not heard

[sour canopy]

DUDE, IMAGINE A FEMALE WARRIOR IN SOME FUCKING HEAVY-DUTY ARMOR!!!

[arctic onyx]

it's why I love destiny armor so much, my female titan is such a badass

[sour canopy]

That would be badass man

[scarlet mural]

I am so freaking excited for this game

[undone tartan]

It's why I love Dark Souls, the armor looks almost the same between men and women.

[mellow verge]

There have been really cool female main characters, Samus for example

[sour gorge]

more like 60 something years old. The first video game created was back in 1958

[opaque scroll]

not heard, silenced more often than not. rather cringe innit?

[mellow hinge]

Hello there people. I'm about to go sleep but I just wanted to say that Palia looks to be the game of my dreams! I cannot wait to play it. From what I saw from the trailer, the developers look extremely talented, so huge GGs to them!

[gritty veldt]

cant 😔😔😔 just not possible 😔😔😔😔😔 how am i supposed to know she’s a woman if she’s not wearing bikini????

[rancid stump]

Fromsoft make the best armour designs

[undone tartan]

Fashion Souls is a thing for a reason.

[gilded sleet]

whats wrong with sexy female armor tho

[mellow verge]

Yeah Id say silenced.

I wanted to play Cyberpunk but all the males were very ...Neanderthal and not attractive bc resources went into pretty ladies

[scarlet mural]

If you want women in heavy armor to bikinis Black Desert Online is your go-to. I really hope this outdoes BDO

[arctic onyx]

there is too much of it, no variety

[celest maple]

That feeling when you realize video games are almost as old as some women suffrage movements

[sudden rain]

it's not that there's something necessarily WRONG with the occaisonal bit of sexuality, it's that when it's the only option it's kind of creepy and weird, especially in combination with gaming culture and history

[rancid stump]

Keanu though 😳

[mellow hinge]

I applied just now for the Alpha, and did the survey too. I so hope I get to play it first hands

[plush sleet]

I hope this game is just a chill kafe back mmorpg

[mellow verge]

Yeah theres an over saturation of sexy female npc or playable characters to draw in males

[gritty veldt]

also like no male equivalent, even tho that wouldn’t solve anything. if anything it’s make it worse lol

[plush sleet]

Laid back

[sudden rain]

lmao the benefit of being bi ✌️

[mellow hinge]

But for now it's sleep time for me, so goodnight folks!

[little shadow]

make it fair, give guys hyper sexualized armor too. Lemme play a paladin dude in a thong

[opaque scroll]

i wouldnt count that as the start of video gaming tho. pong wasnt exactly commercial. consoles are what made gaming available to the commercial audience, and that started in the 80's iirc

[mellow verge]

Im demi! actually

[glacial tide]

@little shadow that's 100 vibe there

[sudden rain]

lol fair!! sorry. i'm bi/ace so 🤝

[celest maple]

I got a skyrim mod that kind of did that. 🤣

[rancid stump]

Exactly, they do that in FFXIV. Bunny suits for both guys and girls let's goooo 😳

[glacial tide]

based?

[opaque scroll]

fellow B-icons rise up!

[sudden rain]

ffxiv is Great.

[sour canopy]

Oh no, the pervy weebs can't jerk off to this non-sexualized character? Boo hoo, get over urselves, I hate it when people do stuff like that, it makes me, and my hobby, seem disgusting to my friends, like it's so goddamn stupid

[mellow verge]

Am I a De-con? looks at insecticides

[sour gorge]

It doesn't matter what you consider the start of video games. The first video game was made back in the late 50s and the first console released was back in the 70s

[lavish remnant]

Any of you check out Sword of Legends? The women are so thin that it's actually bothersome to look at.

[mellow verge]

lol they were being sarcastic XD

[arctic onyx]

Dem-icon?

[nova ember]

I think you need to google what satire is/ a joke

[viscid aurora]

lol

[sour gorge]

the fact of the matter is that Video games are not some small thing. Like I said they make more than both the movie and music industry combined.

[mellow verge]

Oooh

[sour canopy]

No ik, I was just saying

[sour gorge]

Billions of dollars every year

[gritty veldt]

i was being sarcastic lol sorry for not making that clear

[sour gorge]

and there are tons of games with female leads by the way

[sudden rain]

i'm pretty sure he was just adding on to the sarcasm!

[glacial tide]

I mean, some people don't care about armor and just wanna see feet. Amirite?

[mellow verge]

And sorry didnt mean to take it to a 'men bad'. I know theres a loud minority but in video games I want to see equal treatment where I like to have fun

[sour canopy]

No, I understood the joke, just was making a statement

[opaque scroll]

but you have to consider what would be considered as mass market entertainment. thats the part that actually effects cultural standing. and in regards to cultural standing, gaming is very young

[edgy steeple]

nice!

[mellow verge]

Oh yeah I need to change my pfp back for a while XD brb

[rancid stump]

Honestly I just wanna go fishing and tame a chapaa

Tame*

[crisp shadow]

If you want to loose faith in humanity just go into Rec Room.

[lavish remnant]

how did u mix up tame and fans? lol

[sudden rain]

I think there's also to consider, comparing to art/entertainment mediums - movies, literature, visual art - gaming and interactive mediums related to it are EXTREMELY young

[gritty veldt]

gotcha sorry!! i thought you were joining in on the joke but read what you said again and got confused lol

[sudden rain]

you can't compare modern SFF to like, tolkein, for example

[gritty veldt]

brain small

[sudden rain]

...well i should go older there

modern SFF to dante's inferno

[rancid stump]

I must've butchered the word so bad autocorrect couldn't even

[sour canopy]

Dude, can u tame dragons in this? Or something dragon-like?

[lavish remnant]

HA just goes to show you how fail autocorrect is XD

[glacial tide]

same but I want a micro Einar

[lavish remnant]

We only know a handful of creatures atm, none of which are dragonlike

[sour canopy]

No it's cool, just very passionate about certain stuff

[mellow verge]

there we go. demi-rep ;3

[late bay]

I hope my prealpha request went through! Did any of you guys get an email saying they got your request? Or will we just hear back when decisions are made?

[arctic onyx]

i want a 15 meter tall tree friend 😔

[sour canopy]

Damn

[celest maple]

Dragon fire breath for helping me bake my cakes? 🥺

[opaque scroll]

thats my point! gaming is still very young as a mass market entertainment medium, and as a result still has the growing pains of genderism and toxicity n such. i just wish we could move past that stuff sooner. you just have to have faith that we will

[lavish remnant]

Naw, flame spewing salamanders are best chefs.

[terse quarry]

Hi!

[sour gorge]

Lara Croft, Aloy from Horizon Zero Dawn, Ellie from the last of us, Clementine from the walking dead, Faith Connors from mirrors edge, Kassandra from assassins creed.

[sudden rain]

they're not doing confirmations, so it's just wait and find out!

[rancid stump]

Wait you got an email?

[sour gorge]

Seems like you guys are just skipping over these fantastic female leads for no reason

[sour canopy]

Dragon fire cakes sound amazing actually

[gritty veldt]

understandably so!! the hyper sexualization and objectification of women in media is no bueno

[sudden rain]

did you hear about the mess behind kassandra and origins though like

[sour canopy]

Indeed

[late bay]

I did not get an email, that’s why I was asking!

[arctic onyx]

Samus is my favorite

[celest maple]

Gotta control your dragon breath so you don’t burn the food!

[broken mortar]

Good morning

[rancid stump]

Ahh I didn't either

[sour canopy]

Touche

[hidden rampart]

Can I plant and grow monkeh?