💬│palia-discussions

[raven orbit]

It's worth noting many of the very little accessibility features (like ui text changes) are still inaccessible. The whole point of accessibility is options instead of fixed changes, especially for things like text.

[grizzled mist]

That's because they were all let go before we got you here. Community Managers were our liasons to the development team and the staff at S6. When we had problems, we came to them with it and they relayed it to the right people.

I had to stop using my quest tracker because it was giving me migraines.

[mossy mica]

Yes, the first time I saw it was on a home tour. Someone had it set where you had to hop on the items, much like The Tower, or you fell through the floor. I said HAAAAIILLLLL NAAAH

[umbral lynx]

resize-able ui when that quest ui thingy is an abomination to gaming

[grizzled mist]

Ohhh the landscape thing. I can't see being able to spend any time on that thing. I'd get the spins.

[hollow crescent]

oh you mean the new housing plot? yea i’m not too much of a fan even though it kinda looks cool

like if they kept a ground at least and then made it look like you were in the void might be better

[raven orbit]

it's actually wild they didn't make it resizeable from the getco. text sizing is one of the biggest (and relatively simple) accessibility requests people have had!!

[umbral lynx]

come to think of it i never did like the whole 2 uis anyways since switch adn pc have different uis for whatever reason

[grizzled mist]

Saw it after I typed all that, so I just sent it through for the folks who weren't here. 💙

[umbral lynx]

cas why have basica features when money

[drowsy cloud]

Do u guys think we will be getting a teaser for next update today?

[mossy mica]

I don’t get motion sickness, but it made me feel uneasy. 😅 I like the purple and the music, but otherwise, it’s a hard pass.

[umbral lynx]

fun fact i wont fix my typos cas i dont like to hide my mistakes cough vfx

[grizzled mist]

Scaleable UI! That's what I forgot on my list!

[lyric night]

unlikely, they are past their usual time

[hollow crescent]

i don’t think today

[mossy mica]

The new dragon one would be better if the lighting wasn’t off, and if the building area wasn’t sand.

[warm python]

I can't wait for the teaser

[brisk spruce]

they made fishing slower for everyone stating they did it for accessibility. then changed it to a slider after backlash because it made it more painful for a lot of us, and frustrating for those who didnt get pain from it

made a lot of people in #♿│accessibility-discussions feel like they were being scapegoated during the backlash though

[umbral lynx]

just yoink once humans fishing? you hold mouse button to reel in and press A or D when asked
it wasnt always like that it was a change based off feedback

[mossy mica]

I meant to reply to this earlier, but if they just did one huge bug fix, and I mean FIX, there’d be increased gameplay from many folks. This type of fix would take several hours or a day, so they can make sure everything is working correctly, and that they didn’t break something major in the process.

[hollow crescent]

that’s what that was? i thought it was some kind of bug and reported it cuz i didn’t see the notes on it

[umbral lynx]

heck wows fishing ... press button ... click bobble ... fish

[brisk spruce]

yeeeep

[umbral lynx]

webfishing even has a option to just hold your mouse button to fish over mass clicking

[hollow crescent]

nice

[umbral lynx]

it isnt that hard

[ivory vessel]

especially considering how fishing is the one ability in palia that has no helper (tracker or luck buffer) item... and how frustrating their RNG is (all over the game)... it ain't cozy comfy is all i'm saying

[brisk spruce]

also iirc they didnt announce they did this? I think it got added to the patch notes after because people kept asking about it. might be misremembering that part though

[umbral lynx]

like skill wise i understand fully why people hate fishing it is a task and a half for alot of users and they are totally valid in it they are not the issue the skill is

[mossy mica]

The fishing bubbles sound still isn’t fixed after several months, and I know many people relied on the audio cue.

[hollow crescent]

i just don’t like having to wave my mouse so much is all

clicks but no fish

[umbral lynx]

even this is valid imo they jerk around so much ive seen someone knock a drink over when fishing

[raven orbit]

it's also the skill tied to most of the bundles

[umbral lynx]

i didnt knock a drink over while fishing ahaha no never

jk it was a irls spawn who plays or played like me they just noped out kinda funny when their marketed age group even sees the bs

[limpid root]

I just want to be able to give people fish to finish their bundles. 😩

edit; Let me help!

[grizzled mist]

This is the update that suddenly made fishing impossible for people with even minor issues. It's also the one that was the last straw for me with fishing after suffering the brutal rng. I gave up on it. It's the only part of the bundles I haven't bothered to do.

[umbral lynx]

id trade fish for flowers in a heart beat

[mossy mica]

If the fish didn’t zig zag so much, it’d be much better (for me). Even with buffers, you can only do so much. Add in physical mobility concerns, and it’s impossible for some people.

[grizzled mist]

Honestly and truly, if they opened up fish trading I would happily start fishing again just to help others.

[hollow crescent]

it just tires my hand out tbh, i don’t have much room as it’s a small desk but it’s just repetitive small movements that hurt my wrist if i do them too long. like i play other games and it’s fine but but it’s more like (move mouse, stays in position until i need to move it). i raid in wow so i’m usually moving my mouse but i also stand there for a bit cuz i can hold the mouse buttons and move with buttons on keyboard so it’s not so bad

[umbral lynx]

wait before you all jump in with the request system sometimes friendos would like to display fishy and we cant gift star items so ideal world would be SQ for SQ and we decide the value in a trade as two consenting people i know alot of people who like mining and i hate mining why cant i trade some rocks for a fish its how i see the value in my and their time and effort

[mossy mica]

SQ?

[hollow crescent]

star quality

[mossy mica]

Ah, thanks!

[grizzled mist]

Considering how hard they pitched this to us as a game where you would get to play how you want to play, it sure does make us do a lot of things we don't want to do.

[umbral lynx]

green orbs dont give mana doe
but yeah ive never been a fan of mass movements with mouse controls either it seems so extra when the other skills are so ... stand still-y

[brisk spruce]

it got a looot of backlash really fast because of how annoying it made it for people. I like the slider we have now vs how it was during that patch, but fishing is still painful regardless so I dont really do it much anymore when I do play

[mossy mica]

I’m a hoarder for my rare/epic starred fish. Same with my starred gems. 😅

[grizzled mist]

The only way I'm able to do it without pain was by setting a key to also function as my left click. Not holding down the button on the mouse while trying to steer the reticle seems to work for me. But again, I have friends who cannot bind it to a key that they can easily access while fishing, which is what was changed in that update.

[umbral lynx]

play how you want
but how you want doesnt align with us so we dont do it nor does it effect us personally so we dont care
we will use the mmo tag but honestly make a solo game with a abusive chat feature

[hollow crescent]

😔

[grizzled mist]

I get wanting people to try different skills, but gatekeeping until they do that skill to death is not at all cozy

[polar elbow]

the request system would be enough(not satisfactory, but enough) if they'd at least let people request items they haven't been able to obtain themselves for quests, etc. So people could actually play how they wanted, and request the rest.
If they really wanted to prevent people from showing off things they didn't earn, just make all major quests, bundles, etc ask for normal items, give people a way to change starred items into regular so they can gift them if they want, and leave starred versions as the untradeable 'trophy' version you can put on display in your house.

[grizzled mist]

My story progression is now entirely dependent on an RNG system I have no desire to take part in

[umbral lynx]

bonk me all you want but this is how players see things and trying to silence users isnt gonna help just makes a situation worse you can twist it as much as you like but i played for almost a year and sadly the game became a honest health risk so ofc im gonna be abit mad and wanna voice my thoughts on the matter its meant to be a cute cozy game i play in the background while doing something else and it stopped being that and id love for it to be that once more sure itsd a grind fest but i never felt the need to grind something out and just go at my own flow with it which was nice then BAM cant play without hurting myself ... which isnt cozy and there are users who have tried to play for much longer than myself who just got pushed out which isnt ok in any circle

to add i can play other games known for big flashy graphics but since they are isolated and tend to have a warning or a system to them i can just look away when they happen... i cant close my eyes and run from kilima to bahari and try to hunt or bug catch with my eyes closed

[grizzled mist]

This defence of not wanting people to be able to get things they haven't earned is now irrelevant, as we know the shortcutters have found other ways to get what they want that we aren't permitted to speak of here.
The only reason to limit us as players now is to stall.
The only reason to drown us in a tidal wave of plushies and pods and stickers is to stall us.
These are diversions, albeit some cute ones, but diversions regardless.
They are buying time, and have been doing so for well over a year now. This is why so many are shouting to the sky that Elderwoods is the decider. It will make or break this game. And this week the stakes became even higher, for reasons that are off topic stuff. Competition is rising. People will have places to go now. Some have already wandered off. Elderwoods needs to knock off some socks.

[livid lagoon]

Being able to request freely would be nice, and it would also help people with certain accessibility needs. But if they are insistent on gating and keeping progression at a certain pace, instead of requiring previous ownership of items then requiring the appropriate level would be a decent middle ground.

That still doesn't solve everything, if someone is fully unable to do an activity they can't level, so that would still be a problem. But gating on level rather than ownership would still be a step forward imo.

[grizzled mist]

Cozy is very in all of a sudden, but a certain popular MMO has decided to also get some skin in the game. Not in a smaller clothes way. In a 'let's steal all the cozy gamers and bring them to our side' kind of way.

[umbral lynx]

at this point what are they even gating? people have maxed everything

[mossy mica]

They’ve certainly maxed all of our patience.

[grizzled mist]

I mean, I still haven't maxed everything... because I don't like fishing

[polar elbow]

Oh, I'm more than aware they're stalling for time. It's abundantly clear ever since the plushies- just more and more RNG collectables with no pity system to drive engagement while actual gameplay is stagnant. But you're right on that regard too, there is competition rising up for those who are seeking out other places where they'd be able to build a cozy home. Palia might have been the first to really tackle this online cozy community sim niche, and that gave them a head start, but a head start doesn't mean you're going to stay in the lead if ultimately wind up tripping over your own feet every step of the way. >>

but S6 has always been adamant against allowing free trade or gifting for reasons I can't fathom, and people are absolutely resorting to [redacted] because the game itself isn't giving them a reasonable way to obtain what they want- and by reasonable, I mean respecting one's time. Pity-less RNG is the exact opposite of respecting a player's time, IMHO

[grizzled mist]

And not liking fishing in this game has made a large portion of it closed to me

I was asked to keep it to off topic chat when I initially mentioned it, so I'll respect that.

i think this is a terrible time to introduce more consoles to the game, for so many reasons but the biggest of them being the bugs. I've stopped recommending the game because it is embarrassingly riddled with problems. And I love this game dearly. Believe me. But it is not looking its best right now. Its not presentable in my opinion. There are accessibility, quality control, technical, gameplay, interface, rendering, and effects issues. Big ones. These need to be addressed before a new wave of players is brought in to be disappointed.

Blindly bumping engagement numbers without repairing these problems will permanently affect the reputation of the game, which could be the killing blow.

[hollow crescent]

i’d say so cuz you log into the game

[polar elbow]

To the suits that care about engagement as a metric, yes.

ZLC works well for those who enjoy palia as-is and are actively playing, but it completely fails as a login incentive for those who aren't logging in because they don't have anything that they'd want to actually do in the game.
ZLC/the palia coins are meaningless for someone isn't logging in enough to justify buying a new cosmetic to begin with.

[lilac egret]

We cant get new content only with new adventure zones

[swift token]

Hopefully not 😦

[livid lagoon]

To you and me it don't matter much, but in a board room where investors sit with a nice folder of papers that S6 has tailored for them, with nice infographics and statistics like this, it does matter. It looks nice on paper, like they did something that worked. Investors eat it up because it looks like S6 knows what they are doing, everyone but the players wanting actual content are happy.

[polar elbow]

New console releases are something that S6 shouldn't squander- you only get to make a first impression once, and once you run out of new platforms/consoles to launch on, that's it, no more 'easy' shots at boosting your player count.

[grizzled mist]

Hey, guys! Let's just stick a plushie on the rarest bug in the game instead of just bugs that don't drop silk, yeah?? engagement numbers intensify

[hollow crescent]

at somepoint the areas we been to will have to have their “limit” like for example there’s so much going on in kilima and bahari bay atm with many ways to get decor items that now it’s just”toss things into rummage or the gacha machines” and to me that gets a little boring. i’m fine with new areas having new content and as somepoint the past areas having a “stopping point l but you’d still go back if you wanted to do something

[umbral lynx]

fake the start is to high

[livid lagoon]

Allow me to fix.

[hollow crescent]

📈

[lilac egret]

I hope we content roadmap soon

[polar elbow]

but the other reason I really hope that S6 doesn't launch on any more consoles for a while, is because consoles have to approve patches before they put them live. That takes time. Adding more consoles/platform holders to the equation just makes it even more like that when something breaks (not if, always when) it takes them an unreasonably long time to patch it because they have to wait for every single platform to give a patch the green light before they can push it live.

[umbral lynx]

Fridge worthy

[livid lagoon]

Anyways, enough jokes before I get bonked. My point was, daily logins do count as engagement if the statistics is angled through the right pinhole... they seem to be more interested in hotfixing (hah!) statistics to look good for investors asap at the cost of community rather than securing good standing and trust with the community - which would cost more short-term but benefit them long-term.

The way I see it, it is them buying time fiscally. Stats have been looking bad for quite some time, so rig it to look better so they can get investor security now at the cost of players, gambling that they can smooth it over later or grab a new audience.

[lilac egret]

right now game has nothing for people who care about quests or the non premium content

[livid lagoon]

They do have that chance, and as I keep saying about any negative speculation; I hope to be proven wrong... but with the company/leadership culture we've seen from them I have my doubts they'll get even remotely close to achieving that.

[grizzled mist]

Without actually learning from NMSs mistakes.

[lilac egret]

It would be nice if every other month we get new quests or new in game feature or a tease whats to come next or more lore

[lethal granite]

||ew basket ||

[west marlin]

Ew lol

[umbral lynx]

its a great suiting shorthand

[warm python]

I look at EW and think we're talking about [redacted]

[rare pine]

Do I wanna know what [redacted] is?

[polar elbow]

its the game with a highly memed free trial copypasta, EW being the abbreviation for said game's 4th expansion

[marsh depot]

They even have a chance to pull a Riot and go back on their "no free/earnable cosmetics" but

[grizzled mist]

I guess I could see it potentially spiraling off topic, but I think we're pretty good at keeping it reasonable. Might feel otherwise if it were patch day though.

[warm python]

At this point I'm doing it (the redacting) half jokingly but also half not considering people got "friendly reminders" at even the mention of another game earlier today is just....yeah

It's sad seeing how this channel is compared to even a month ago

I genuinely thought it was said to be okay but yeah as mentioned before the immediate jumping the gun on "well make sure you dont talk about it TOO much" absolutely smothers the convo

so idk anymore

[marsh depot]

It's like we can't even mention other games in any sort of light cause god forbid we mention any sort of competition even if it's related

[marsh depot]

Yuppp

[umbral lynx]

Then there's me who doesn't read.
If we don't compare thingys by name how can we understand each other's comparisons
Like I'm not gonna roll into a wow discord and compare it's housing to gw2 by using riddles and work arounds I'll say gw2 or guild wars 2 or even if I I compare ld to ff14s again same idea

If we can't name and compare to systems we like and would like to see paylia do their own spin on it we kinda get silenced for... Nothing?

Like how else am I gonna describe my wants for half walls and being able to wallpaper them without name calling acnh let me make the builder items match

[marsh depot]

Or how can I compare Palia's building system without mentioning an already existing life/building simulation franchise with a plumbob

[mossy mica]

I love the word “plumbob.”

[umbral lynx]

I'm gonna keep doing it sure we get side tracked cas we highlight a favourite thing but it's like for 2 seconds imo and tends to die off on its own

[mossy mica]

As you were.

[marsh depot]

They're truly iconic.

[umbral lynx]

I've not touched a sims game in... Hmm when was 3 but I do still enjoy and seek their build mode in other games while yes you had to use some commands for some decor it was a good system
I can't see s6 going as in depth but maybe reconsider some of the hit boxes for items since clutter decor is really annoying in game

[marsh depot]

As much of a mixed bag as The Sims 4 is, I much prefer the versatility in their building system in comparison to Palia's, specially the ability to undo/redo actions and saving blueprints. If Palia's building system was instanced instead, it'd be a much better system.

[mossy mica]

I do want to point out that even though I’m not as active as I once was a year+ ago, anyone that I’ve connected with can add me if they wish. It’s just a matter of time of this server/game going up in flames. This community and atmosphere isn’t what it once was, but I have met some cool people. I hope you’re all well. 🖤

[umbral lynx]

Yo palia needs a undo button saying for a friend
Jk the friend is me and the amount of times I picked something up I didn't want to

[fast sonnet]

Okayyyyy, think I've had enough of the Palia sub reddit today 😬 What we talking about in here?

[fallow saffron]

First thing I saw in here

[umbral lynx]

Btw did nikki housing come out yet

I wonder how they will do clutter decor

[warm python]

I'm afraid to ask

[fallow saffron]

I don’t play it, but I think that all of my friends that do play Nikki would have been talking about the housing if it did happen yet lol (Tis my guess)

[fallow saffron]

I wanna know

[umbral lynx]

Same but I also have a bad memory so I had a mild panic

[warm python]

Not yet but I'm looking forward to it! I don't think there's been much info since a live stream and some model leaks

I don't know if it's going a structural edit thing like Palia tho, it might be more decorate a pre-existing building, but supposedly there's gonna be more content around it when it does drop

Should be interesting to compare and contrast

[marsh depot]

Curved walls and 2nd floors that aren't lofts when

[neat compass]

doors

[umbral lynx]

We shouldn't have to glitch to have functional doors why can npcs have doors but we can't?

[warm python]

Still lacking doors is wild

[fallow saffron]

I chimed in-

[umbral lynx]

Wasn't there a curve building in promo images too

Like I get why å curve might not be their strong suit. Like I won't deny I've avoided the curve walls in once human since without the glass pack I just don't vibe with them and placement is janky... So I kinda get why

[neat compass]

Right? I can understand why some features may take extra time to add due to their complexity or whatever but we already have functioning doors in-game. It's difficult for me to understand why we still can't have them throughout our houses

[neat compass]

this will be stuck in my head for the rest of the day 😂

[umbral lynx]

image for ref
like you can see the basic wood just doesnt look nice but due to decor size i could see palia handleing it and half the items not fitting

cas most of the palia grid simple items are a whole square

[livid lagoon]

I don't really get why curved in Palia should be a problem. I mean, I get that curves in general means more collision points performance wise, but the furniture and decor we have has more than just simple, square collision iirc, so I'd think a wall/floor also not having a square collision.

Thinking about it, gazebo is kinda curved already, so... sounds more like a non-technical decision to not have them.

[umbral lynx]

ya know ngl i forgot about the gazebo

maybe if that wasnt a buggy mess and easy to get i might remember it more

fern >:V we cant laugh we all know im dumb

[livid lagoon]

Thinking about it, I suppose the biggest challenge of a curved wall is more what to allow to mount to the wall, since surface isn't flat. No bendy picture frames... unless they make intermediate mounting pieces.

[umbral lynx]

yet i cant place a tent off the basic 4

[livid lagoon]

Or make certain decor into actual decals.

[umbral lynx]

i wouldnt expect to place wall decor at most like the flag? banner items? since you could and should expect a gap

i mean reth tends to load without his drink shaker

Not the best choice

[livid lagoon]

Me neither to be honest, but I can see it becoming a potential complaint. That said, they could just make a "builder block" of sorts, precurved, that you can attach to those walls. Maybe have different sizes/curves for the walls, and so on, but... just some light brainstorming.

[umbral lynx]

Doable but flickers my circle is like a rave show of textures

[livid lagoon]

What, you don't like z-fighting?

[marsh depot]

Diagonal building placement when as well it took TS4 10 years to give us curved walls but I doubt Palia will be around for that long

[umbral lynx]

Maybe in 2045

[dark moon]

We need more beverages, why do we never hydrate?

[umbral lynx]

cas even though the promos for palia show a character model sitting and drinking like a normal emote they gave us a cursed one and now no one wants to drink

[dark moon]

I want to drink something other than cocktails and milk

They are ruining my solo rp

[umbral lynx]

[livid lagoon]

cough-preservejars-and-all-the-other-already-made-clutter-cough

[umbral lynx]

you mean things the npcs have that we dont?

zekis house got all them illegal items in tsk tsk

[pulsar meteor]

turns out they're only illegal for Majiri

[dark moon]

He has a built in fish tank

[umbral lynx]

thats just rude i do crimes i should be above the law

but fr zekis house breaks alot of the chic set and he has mirrored parts or the part we dont have? i forget

That thing

[pulsar meteor]

idk, i only went in there for some magic trick and a stone that listened

[dark moon]

We are humans though..

[umbral lynx]

His errr draw? Cab.. Table... Thing? Still had broken textures

The bottom left thing

also the tiny gap on the shelves he has cups there which we cant do

[stuck moth]

Need the wood papers to be fixed 😩

Pavers*

[warm python]

Nooo why did you have to make me remember that

That.... And the cloud....

Oh my god lol

How is it real

[west marlin]

It looks like a joke

[rare pine]

People were saying it looked better in game. I..... disagree.

[lethal granite]

|| ||

(i wish i was joking, that’s its emote)

[normal saddle]

I know i'm beating a dead horse, but dang, why do the premuim outfits be so expensive? Spent 15 dollars on the caped one because it finally went on sale 😩

[dark moon]

Wait until they give us wings!!

[normal saddle]

only had 15 anyways so I just did the zeki club thing for long term coins to finally save up for the froggy bundle. Hope they don't take it down. It seems like only the sales are a weekly thing

[normal saddle]

They gave us some non functional ones. Don't even wanna look at the price there

but 15 dollars so I can finnally feel more androgynous than the defult smh

[warm python]

Yeah it's....it's something

[dark moon]

I should look at the premium ship more, they probably weren't cute enough for my wallet

[normal saddle]

I would have bought it bc dragons, but not at that price. I think it's more than 20 bucks.

[dark moon]

Oh definitely not cute enough

[normal saddle]

With this game, I'm waiting for a sale or bundle before I buy anything

Meanwhile, Cult of the Lamb, A whole butt DLC for 5-15 dollars? mwa, chef's kiss

Like, the dlc is only cultists and furniture, but still!!

[marsh depot]

Careful there, you don't wanna get too off topic (for the record, I'm joking)

[normal saddle]

Mods, do it. Ban me

only for like maybe a day-

[valid urchin]

hey everyone! trying to do a quest for "a family squabble" but it doesnt let me as Najuma what she wants as a gift and i have never asked her. what do i do?

[hollow crescent]

you can try asking hodari or check #🤝│game-help message the palia tracker site linked in this post (or even her wiki page) and it’ll show you what she looks for :)

[noble stratus]

she ask me apple when it is stress with her work, a tomato , a purple / green snail ..but yes this week seem ask nothing

i want ask if Palia it is running region or countries block ?
i want show to a friend the game as image, and when i went on store say unavailable game platform/region .. Odd because i own already the game and play it ...

[quartz kestrel]

Humans are like plants in Palia

[quartz kestrel]

Mirrored decor should be very much a thing...

[wraith bear]

There's something strange about the pond south of Tamala's house. I'm getting pond fish from the fishing spots but river fish the rest of the time.

[ember rampart]

My Silverwing bird from my plot, left me a blue candy egg. I didn't know that they can do that and it's sooo cute! 🥲🥺
Does anyone know if they leave other stuff too or starred things to be displayed in our home? ^^

Oh, what a pity 🙁
But good to know, thank you!

[ember lynx]

thats a thing u can get?!?!

[olive carbon]

It's a bundle reward from the Temple of the Night Sky- more info here
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Young_Silverwing_Nest

[ember lynx]

im working on it still!

[ember rampart]

Oh, I am sorry. I didn't want to spoil or anything. Just found out today for the first time by myself 😅

[ember lynx]

its ok! i dont mind lol

[olive carbon]

Here's a tracker for the stuff so you don't have to keep running back and forth to check what you need (totally not what I was doing before I found this)
https://www.paliatracker.com/bundles

[ember lynx]

omg ty LOL its what ive been doing, i end up going to bahari for one thing and end up running back and forth for hours, its insane (also, on that topic, i need a new backpack update or something, even with my inventory space fully expanded i can never have enough space, i always run out ;;)

also im seeing that sushi is both a quest reward and something you can just fish out? is it both? thats kinda odd

ty!

[ember lynx]

been thinking about this and talking it out w a few irls that are also into palia and i gotta say i dont see the big deal in adding paywalled cosmetics to the game...

it is frustrating to not be able to afford thme im ngl, but also, this is an indie game isnt? they gotta pay the devs somehow

[lethal granite]

dunno if it’s fair to call s6 indie. ig that depends on your definition of indie. they were acquired by daybreak.

[ember lynx]

i guess thats more valid tbh, especially for older players. i do agree with most of this

[west marlin]

Palia is not indie on basis of size and budget

[indigo sail]

Is there any new mechanics or gameplay elements under development? Like community lots or better NPC relationships or multiplayer interactions.
Or more complex stamina system, wildlife combat, mounts.
Sim dating is very weak and PVE interactions got better but still lacking on the social side.
Games feels lacking in terms of interactions besides farming loot and most of the lots have no utility besides decor (which is good for spending some time but almost pointless afterwards).

[hollow crescent]

!feedback not sure! most hope there is some new element to the game, if you want you can send some feedback to let them know things

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[indigo sail]

Just curious if there's been any exciting announcement

[hollow crescent]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/809857031116685348 here too if in discord :)

[indigo sail]

I am aware of those, no hot gos then, okay.

[wispy lance]

Some s6 has been around and we have some new small easter eggs from time to time, but very little. You can also watch #🌟│sixer-tracker

We should have gotten some lvl 5 quests before elderwoods, there's still time for those but who knows...

[fresh leaf]

It’s totally gonna be Einar asking for LNUF and Auni asking for a certain disputed butterfly 🫣 I’m guessing but you never know

[celest maple]

Do the devs/community manager drop by the Discord sometimes? I'd like to learn more about what's going on behind the scenes.

[raven orbit]

Devs do sometimes, but there are no community managers. They were laid off a while ago /gen

[warm python]

They got rid of all the community managers. Once in a blue moon we'll get a dev around for a brief bit

[celest maple]

Wait, really? There's no community manager? That sounds pretty rough.

[warm python]

There were several layoffs and the latest one hit the last CM

and yeah, it is, sadly. S6 wasn't great with communication even before that last layoff, so with zero CMs, it's been...uh, something

Supposedly they're in the process of hiring a new one but it's been many many weeks since it was mentioned so who knows when that'll happen or what effect it'll actually have, since it still comes down to S6 willing to actually give them/allow them to say info

still, an online game with no CM is still kinda wild to me, baffles me that's one of the roles they felt was okay to have on the chopping block

[celest maple]

The reason I asked is because I read through their announcements on the website and there was one a few months ago where they more or less said they were gonna be more active with the community.

[dull crow]

did anyone got the star ruby in last time i am searching for it since a year now

[wispy lance]

They've been active for a while but I guess they didn't have time to make more appearances

[wispy lance]

Haven't gotten one yet. It's probably the rarest thing IG xd, or im just unlucky

[celest maple]

That's understandable if it's just the devs, after all. They have game-making to do.

[wispy lance]

U can always look at #🌟│sixer-tracker so see they're past conversations or in case you missed one

[dull crow]

i even got the rainbow plushie twice but no star ruby i got 6 aquamarin and 4 saphire today and an amythyst

[celest maple]

Thank you!

[lyric night]

the rainbow plushie droprate is actually not that low so it tracks

rtb plush is 1/25, star ruby is 1/1000 (1/100 to get any ruby)

[warm python]

I don't know if I'd say pops up every once in a while when I say something wrong about the company active or off the cuff saying things here that aren't actually communicated anywhere but if you're looking at the tracker (which doesn't get everything) or are in this channel at that time

I still see wrong info/unclear things outside of this discord (and IN this discord but espec outside of it) all the time because things that have been mentioned briefly here were never said to anyone else

i.e. no one on reddit knows what the actual chapaa chase issue is (wrong, pre-fix version getting pushed live)

where's my check in the mail.... just got an email about a $200 keyboard I want /hj

[west marlin]

Last time WC talked to us was 18 days ago

Idk man a few posts every few weeks isn't my definition of an engaged team

I'm not saying they have to be or have any obligations to be, I mean we've been without any CM for months and even then they went weeks between posts on just saying I wouldn't define any of this as active

And I don't think S6 does either when they made a whole blog post about how they've failed to communicate and want to do better

[humble knot]

Been away a long time, but it seems like as I'm coming back that there hasn't been nearly any new content in the last half a year or so, is the game on the way to eos or something? Can't seem to find anything but bug fixes or cash shop additions in the news sections

[west marlin]

Even the last #🌟│sixes-tracker post was a month ago

Ugh sorry my phone butchered it but you know what I meant lol

[warm python]

They've been all hands on deck for their new map update (and presumably the ps5/xbox ports if those aren't being outsourced), and their staff is a lot smaller now, so it's been filler patches for a hot min

the elderwood update will be sometime this year, second quarter is the last update we got for a release

though we have zero idea how far into development it is at this point cause they're clutching their cards to their chest like their lives depended on it LOL

[humble knot]

😭 😂

[west marlin]

What I wouldn't give for a 'hey look at this neat thing were working on' post

All we get is an alt tab leak of a terrible mushroom man

I still want to know what youtube video they were watching

Lmao was it

[normal saddle]

Hold on, I would like to see the mushroom man

[fresh leaf]

The last communication claimed they were in elderwoods playing the map to ensure it worked? I don’t know how to word it like they did

[warm python]

kjahsdas not the alt tab mushroom man

[west marlin]

He will haunt ur nightmares

[marsh depot]

I guess this is their way to tease Easter eggs /j

[indigo sail]

ty

[topaz otter]

I find these messages in the Sales channel weird. Let's be honest: Who changes their outfit every day? You want to maintain a recognition value for other players or group/community members. Changing your outfit all the time is completely out of place. And they're not THAT beautiful. It would be better to offer shopping options that give me a discount on buying Zekis' goods in the underground or in the town hall. That would be really useful. Unfortunately, there is no real incentive for me to spend money (anymore). 😢

[livid lagoon]

In terms of how far into Elderwoods development, assuming they haven't silently changed up their plans (which, knowing them, they may well have) I would claim that logically they are practically finished if they intend to keep to their Q2 target. They've also claimed certification takes about a month (two if timing is wrong, but let's say one month), so it has to be sent to cert in late May at latest. We're in mid-March already so they have 2 1/2 months. I'd say it would be reasonable for a professional (!) company to be in the polishing stages at this point.

[neat compass]

I don't love their premium setup but in all fairness, I think the sales aren't only meant to encourage players to change their outfits often. That could be one goal, but the other goal is likely to encourage players to purchase an outfit that they wouldn't have purchased at its original price. It might be the only outfit they buy. Also, in a game that is meant to be social and MMO-ish, it's pretty normal for players to want to express themselves with what they wear. That being said, I do think there's an opportunity for S6 to increase their free cosmetic options, especially if those cosmetics were earned throughout gameplay

[neat compass]

Do you think they're still going to push to consoles with Elderwoods? I'm starting to wonder if they'll wait until after Elderwoods gets released, but at the same time I could see why it could be a stronger marketing push for them to do both at the same time. Genuinely curious about your opinion.

[rare pine]

They're trying to push to Xbox and PS5 this year iirc

[neat compass]

Yeah, and they sort of implied that 1.0/consoles/Elderwoods may all happen at the same time, but now I'm not so sure.

[livid lagoon]

Hard to say. I can't remember what the investor report said anymore about when they had targeted console release, but I think it said "this year" rather than "Q2"... but again, memory is hazy there. I think it would be highly irresponsible to push both console and EW as a single patch.

[rare pine]

Doing all at once might break this game in more ways than we can fathom. Even these little updates we've been getting have been doing damage. I don't want to imagine a whole new area

[dark moon]

Wouldn't releasing it on console in August be the most reasonable?

[livid lagoon]

To put it another way; look at their track records for bugs (and for fixing bugs). With Elderwood they're pushing an entirely new map, with I'd assume new furniture, new animals, bugs, fish, new story, who knows maybe new NPCs, and quite likely some new game mechanics as well. That alone is a lot of moving systems that - again, with their track record - has a high likelihood of breaking. If they push for consoles as well with the same patch they are going to be swamped in reports.

[rare pine]

I'm gonna load up the game after EW drops and my Switch is gonna explode.

[neat compass]

Yeah that's exactly what I've been thinking. I would love for Elderwoods to be the miracle this game needs to survive, but there are so many issues at the base level of this game that have been festering for so long. Even if they managed to magically resolve every single major issue before EW releases, porting everything over to consoles would still be another huuuuge undertaking.

[dark moon]

Maybe everything is breaking because they are doing everything at once

[marsh depot]

I wonder how much EW is gonna make my laptop overheat/crash.

[livid lagoon]

Very much so. As always, hope to be proven wrong, but I don't think there is any way realistically that them putting all their eggs in one basket (Elderwood) like they are claiming to is gonna be a success. There's just too much riding on EW alone. With the state the game is in, I find it hard to see how there is any chance Elderwood can meet user expectations. And Elderwood isn't just reliant on being good on its own, it also has a lot of "debt" to deal with from the current base game.

[neat compass]

I think everything is breaking because the dev team is likely understaffed, overworked, under resourced, and management did not ensure that there was a thorough transition of any work completed by team members who were laid off. Now we have an overworked team scrambling to complete a highly anticipated expansion of the game while also releasing slow drips of content to keep players satiated. Things are bound to break and slip through the cracks.

However, this is all speculation and I know absolutely nothing about what's truly happening lol.

[livid lagoon]

Now, adding console to the mix; if this wasn't an online game - while it would still mean a division of resources between fixing Elderwood and fixing console related bugs - it would potentially be managable even if straining. However, with crossplay and all, it suddenly becomes an interweaved web of problems rather than isolated ones.

[vast wolf]

How do people make 2 story houses, and why aren’t there ever rooms upstairs?

[neat compass]

That could be fun! For better or worse, the bar is very low for me at this point lol. I'll be happy if we just get some major bug fixes and Elderwoods isn't broken upon release. I hate to be that cynical, but the ongoing Maji Market mess has been a huge disappointment for me. The market was the perfect opportunity to increase/maintain player engagement, and we've had so many ongoing bugs and new ones on a regular basis. It's hard for me to comprehend how that isn't a higher priority for them.

[livid lagoon]

Very true, although I still think a good chunk of issues could be solved at management/c-suite/ownership-level. After all, it is there the final decisions whether to ship broken messes or delays are made, allocation of resources, etc. And we've had some peeks into parts of the management/c-suite, which doesn't fill me with confidence, and also makes me feel that largely the current state of things stem from there.

[marsh depot]

Currently the only building with 2 stories is the Grand Harvest House.

My only guess as to how people can make makeshift 2 story houses is with building blocks or making "attics".

[neat compass]

I agree 100%. I think the problem definitely starts at the very top.

[vast wolf]

Okay, and the lack of rooms? I googled it and all I’m seeing is Reddit posts from over a year ago saying that it’s not an available option. So a year later you can have an upstairs area but no rooms? What’s the point to that??

[marsh depot]

Yeah it's not currently available in game. No news about when it's going to be implemented, unfortunately Likely due to the fact they're putting all of their efforts in the Elderwoods update.

[vast wolf]

They really should get the current setup working before they add EW. I don’t see this going well at all for S6.

[marsh depot]

Yeah that's almost what most of us think here but we don't really know what their plans are.

[vast wolf]

I’m sure it has something to do with it. Seems like we all have more and more issues as they update and have maintenance.

[loud axle]

Here's the thing.

Elderwoods alone should not be taking this much time. That's mainly recycled code: you're just adding in a new map, new fish, new bugs, new resources, etc. but it all uses the exact same formats that they've been using. There might be a couple new "behaviors" for like, the new huntable creature... but even that's just taking existing code and tweaking it.

There's either several entirely new gameplay features in the works with Elderwoods, which would take awhile to create and implement... or they're just taking forever to port to consoles, which DOES take quite a bit of work as it's essentially starting from scratch.

[warm python]

I'm just. mega curious. like I wouldn't be surprised if they were putting in a new skill and that's dragging the production time but even so, it's not like they're recreating the game from scratch? and if it takes this long for one map what happens in the future, will the game go back to filler for a year if they work on another?

[loud axle]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone through several re-dos as well which wasted time. They tend to love "refining" stuff several times.

[swift token]

Oh? That's great!
I thought they said they couldn't have a test map to ensure minimal bugs got released.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding 😅

[fresh leaf]

I will look for where I got this information or misinformation from. Be right back

[fresh leaf]

Found it. From the last (and only) dev blog

[brisk spruce]

the quote you're thinking of was in reference to a public test server, as opposed to one only accessible by S6

sorry for the edits, I have a headache and kept using the wrong words

[swift token]

@fresh leaf @brisk spruce Thank you both 💐

[meager lagoon]

What character should I draw

[hard basin]

That's on you, but if you like something adventurous, make a wheel with names and spin

[cosmic topaz]

I love the quality of chat in this channel ^_^
Very interesting insights too with Elderwood thoughts and its impact to the game 🙂

[dense gust]

Is there anywhere I can look up Palia quotes? I forgot to chat to Chayne at my Acceptance party and I want to know what he would have said to me 😭

[rare pine]

I don't think it's been updated in a while, because I look through and it looks like some things seem to be missing(?)

[fast sonnet]

You know what would be amazing? Not falling through the map into oblivion when assets load incorrectly. Especially once you've popped an ore compass or dowsing rod.

I've lost so many resources due to having to back out of the game and restart it because of this issue. I really hope they fix it.

[olive carbon]

Other tricks that aren't reloading the whole game

• open your collections menu and then close it- this reloads the world assets
• leave the map itself and go to another map or home plot and back- takes less time than a hard reboot of your game
• server sync to a friend that's online and in the same map if possible

[fast sonnet]

I can't believe I didn't think of that. Thank you, you are amazing.

[fallow bough]

Hi! I made this list for the vault so I can cross whatever I already submitted. but if anyone needs the list. here you go 😊

[swift token]

There's also the bundles tracker 💐

https://www.paliatracker.com/bundles

[swift token]

Yours is pretty though! Love the color!

[fallow bough]

Thank you! 🥰

[west wedge]

I like yours better. It's simpler to read

[spark haven]

Ty pookie this would've made my bundles so much easier

[fallow bough]

That was my goal haha. The website is helpful but I find it so cluttered hahaha. anyways, I'm glad it helped you guys.

[tacit bough]

Yeah

Anyone having issues logging in?

[queen edge]

In regards to all of us anxious ppl Once the EW is ready there may need to be a server wipe. This wouldn't disappoint me because there have been other games in early access I played in beta and that was annoying but... fun again even after losing the loot (except those purchased or gifted ) I am excited and impatient for Elderwoods. One thing that stood out to me whilst I romanced Hassian was his lore about a hunt that he hesitated because of a familiarity of the eyes and combined with Siffuu and her loss of wife to the beast in the Elderwood....

[tacit bough]

What about my question

[queen edge]

Let me go see I haven't logged in yet always do Discord with my morning coffee lol

[tacit bough]

I just tired logging on and it doesn't seem to be working

[lyric night]

yeah there won't be any server wipes

(would also hurt the game lol bcs no one would touch it again)

[umbral lynx]

I do think they should have a open opt in reset (they can do resets anyways) since most have max skills and fully finished content (that they have changed) it might be nice for a fresh start for some
And yes I'm ware of the technical aspect of s6 trying to reset multiple accounts at once while keeping certain items on them I just think it would be nice thing for them to do since support is such a mess to navigate

[fiery perch]

This happens in general a lot for Palia. Ppl usually say to keep trying and hope for the best. Sorry I can't be more helpful about this :(

[umbral lynx]

Aware... Ya know idk how I manage that

Iirc twitch drops, login, paid can be kept if you ask/depending on thr support agent but that's based off player information so always take it with a grain of salt and doubt

That's why you're my favourite

[fiery perch]

And as others metnioned before, yeah, they already mentioned there won't be anymore server wipes. And at this point, like Tiny said, it would hurt the game. Not just because people wouldn't want to go through all that again (with collecting things, grinding etc), but because it'd be going back on the promise of "no more server wipes".

trust is already something that's ... not the greatest for some with S6, so doing that would definitely make it worse.

[umbral lynx]

Maybe someone should screenshot all the times they said it... Just incase

[fiery perch]

If there was a way to keep unobtainable items (like the ones Di--, sorry, the kettle mentioned above), along with paid outfits... I wouldn't mind it. Although that also would mean going through all the story again... and quite frankly, I don't think that'd go over well, either.

But anyways, what i was meaning to say lol: I do worry about how EW will go, only from the skills standpoint. It might not feel like much of a 'grind' or something since a lot of folks skills are already super high.

Kinda makes me wish there was a skill cap for Skills, and then raising it when EW drops so it felt like there was somethign to work towards. (but ah well, too late for that now)

[umbral lynx]

Ngl I was shocked when I found out there wasn't caps... I assumed it would stop at the max reward level (50) until more content got added since it seemed pointless to let people get 9999 when the game isn't finished

[fiery perch]

tbh i expected the cap to be like 15 or 20. and then the new zone would of added 5 more levels ors omething, depending on size and what resources you'd gather and need to get

butttt that was also when I thought the zone was going to come out sooner lol

[tacit bough]

It's says something about not being able to login into online services.

[queen edge]

No problem logging in

[fiery perch]

And you're sure you have connection on your switch? If so, then I'm not really sure what I can say to help. I don't play on switch and I haven't seen anybody else mention this issue currently

[tacit bough]

Yeah I normally do

[torn kindle]

Have you double checked your Switch clock is set to “automatic”?

[fiery perch]

Are you sure your switch has a stable wifi connection right now? (sorry if it seems silly, just it seems like this issue could be wifi/internet related)
And have you tried turning off your switch, and turning it back on?

And looking back at ppl having this issue in the past, it seemed to be wifi/internet related. There wasn't rly any suggestions other than that.

[tacit bough]

That's what I'm having

[fiery perch]

I understand that. It's why I'm asking if youre 100% sure your switch has a proper wifi connection, and if you've tried to turn your switch off and then turning it back on

[umbral lynx]

Paylia being paylia and weekend connection always sucks

[tacit bough]

I have good WiFi I normally do but idk anymore

[fiery perch]

I mean, I understand that! I'm not trying to say your wifi might not be good, but i'm moreso asking if your switch is properly connecting. Switch can be buggy and strange as a whole

I have a friend who also had a good wifi connection, but their switch will struggle and d/c from wifi without warning. And that was the switch's problem, not the wifi itself

I just wish I could be more help, haha. But there really isn't much I can suggest other than double checking, and turning your switch off then back on

[tacit bough]

Yeah that's fine I may do that

I have my switch off and charging now

[fiery perch]

Hopefully it helps!

Also... renown is actually 1 thing I wish there wasn't a cap on. so much renown that got sent into the void by many :(

[tight island]

Looking for the Madrinas Maji Plush

[warm python]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1326268508417429584

[tight island]

my bad sorry hehe

[warm python]

np! alternatively there's going to be a free version of it coming out under a different name at....some point in time. no idea when though.

[clear hazel]

A few friends I know didn't get this recipe either as well as myself so S6 fixed mine somehow but then when I sent my friends to them they basically told them there is nothing they can do

[runic eagle]

These are supposed to be added in with the next update 🤞 #🌟│sixer-tracker message

[clear hazel]

You're the best!

[sturdy musk]

Does anyone know if palia trackers are allowed?

[warm python]

I think the one that hooks into the game is banned but we can't discuss it here at all

[tacit bough]

A little reset all is good

[wise moat]

I’m late to this but I’ve often wondered how this game would be turning out if they’d not done early access/beta and just waited to full release with all the story and such finished

I feel trapped now, they only just finished the prologue quests not long ago and it’s been over a year. How long now until the entire story quest is done?

[wise moat]

Thanks for this!

[signal kayak]

that's the thing, we don't know. which is a major problem with palia. there's only so much that can be done with how the game is now, ew needs to have a ton of things to do in order to get people to continue to play after they've done everything. honestly, they should have waited until the switch 2 came out before releasing on nintendo's platform, probably should have done ps4/5/xbox before switch

[wise moat]

I wholeheartedly agree with that. I’m genuinely surprised it’s not on the other consoles

If EW ends up not meeting the standards we think it should, I won’t be alone in probably taking a long hiatus

[signal kayak]

a lot of us here in discussions feel that way, about ew needing to hit most of the right spots in order to keep players. the problem is now, there are other f2p games (one in particular that a lot of us have spoken about in here, even if it is a gacha) on ps5 at least that palia will have an extremely hard time gaining a foot hold on

especially when s6 will still be slowed down by nintendo's update restrictions

[snow grove]

EW needs to be bug free and bigger than what the game currently is to have a big impact. I don't see that happening

[lyric night]

without beta it would've probably never released at all tbh

story will always stay wip bcs of the nature of live service games and the story pacing we had in the beginning was completely fine up until the layoffs hit and everything delayed a heck after that
in another universe we would've probably gotten elderwood last year already but well here we are

[hollow crescent]

it won’t be bug free but i would like the bigger issues the community has to be dealt with at least

[snow grove]

Well to be fair, that won't happen either LOL

[hollow crescent]

we shall see

[rare pine]

Expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed

[snow grove]

At this point, it's lower than nothing. I have been at the negatives for months now

[signal kayak]

i have set the bar so low for ew that you can step over it

[wise moat]

Oh no LOL

[umbral lynx]

wait we are meant to have a bar? damn i lost mine ages ago

[rare pine]

It's somewhere in hell.

[umbral lynx]

thanks ciri now i got that hey lil mama let me whisper in your ear in my head

can see it now ey s6 come over to my dms talk to me im sure itll be fun

[snow grove]

I just want a meaningful update, the last one we got with any new content was literally last year.

[umbral lynx]

there was content?

[snow grove]

"Content"

[umbral lynx]

like i dont mean that is a haha bad game way i mean more like i dont remember

[snow grove]

Remember the Temple of the Roots was March of last year

[umbral lynx]

ah yes when i thought the same was in release cas they lied to me

see that was mean but i dont feel bad

[fast sonnet]

I wanna be optimistic but I'm sure they'll find a way to ooze under it

[snow grove]

For that fun 8 min fetch quest

[umbral lynx]

and just stuck her to a new|| prison? ||

[snow grove]

Riveting I tell you!

[umbral lynx]

false it was broken as heck so longer than 8 mins

[snow grove]

Oh when I did it, it wasnt broken, I was expecting more haha

[umbral lynx]

like jina was over it far to quickly

[fast sonnet]

It'd be cool if they would add more to the ancient library and we could explore it with Jina and Subira and Hekla even further

[snow grove]

How about a nice new $35 outfit! - S6 prob

[umbral lynx]

if they wanna shove outfits at me could they at least add a book that we would reply cut scenes from since they crash 99.9% of the time

at least then we can make haha funnies :v

[snow grove]

Or maybe a server event, something....anything

Yall remember that bug catching one right......right?

[umbral lynx]

why not a bug pinata in kilima and you throw bug bombs at it for a chance of the best item in game a plushie

throw in flower seeds since one is kinda unobtainable and they refuse to add a way to get it

[snow grove]

What one can't you get?

[umbral lynx]

the one from the bug event er they added it to a early quest now but most have done that so when they come back they cant get the flowers since auni doesnt sell them
mixed hydr...errrm how you spell it hydrangea...that doesnt look right but its like 2am so take it

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Mixed_Hydrangea_Flower

[snow grove]

Oh, yeah I have those all over my plot lol

[umbral lynx]

which most have done

[fast sonnet]

You can get them from catching Duskwing butterflies

[snow grove]

"Event" we need the quotes around that

[fast sonnet]

Oh, dang it all you're right

[umbral lynx]

i like flowers they were fun for wall decor

spekaing of decor im meant to be doing my once human house again some how ill blame naz

[fast sonnet]

Did you complete the Founders Keepers quest and get them? I have like 100 if you want some

[umbral lynx]

sadly due to the games systems you can only request which you have once had

[fast sonnet]

Right, did you not get them from the founders quest? Where you fish up the boot?

[snow grove]

The most perfect of gifting systems

[umbral lynx]

i got mine from the event but i know alot who just cant have it

[fast sonnet]

Oh is the quest borked

[umbral lynx]

cas its locked away content now since most have done the old quest

[snow grove]

It's from a super old quest, so most long time players can't get it

[umbral lynx]

no no its not borked its a beta change
they changed the reward and you can not re do quests

[fast sonnet]

Oh. Well that's stupid!!!

[umbral lynx]

yes very :c

[snow grove]

Stupid and S6 name a better duo

[fast sonnet]

They need to change the gifting system so people who missed out can still get things from changed content, 100%

[umbral lynx]

like rn the game is unplayable for me so i missed out on LNY which is the few decor items i miss for my collection of 1 of each so nothing to do for another year

[snow grove]

We can use their trading system......oh wait

[fast sonnet]

F u r n i t u r e lol

[snow grove]

I came back after 3 months and saw they added a rainbow butterfly plushy....I just laughed

Oh I just use the interactive map

[umbral lynx]

paylia, plushia .... same thing

[lyric night]

maybe things will get better eventually when it comes to rng in the game
the droprate improvement in 180 was probably not the last adjustment

[snow grove]

But what about the player retention!

[fast sonnet]

I just quit looking for RTBs altogether. Nooooot getting caught up in allat

[slender crown]

Same. I am not going to bother with it. I still can't catch a starred cloud fish lol

[umbral lynx]

its gonna be there months from now so i dont get the hype i like collecting things but like its not going anywhere

[lyric night]

I'm just waiting for elderwoods to hunt for it, will be easier to get anyways with less ppl etc.

[hollow crescent]

oh that’s smart

[slender crown]

You changed your name

[umbral lynx]

hopefully less flashy too by then

[umbral lynx]

youd think that but no no it happens sometimes (i allow this)
its a nice fun surprise when i tab from once human 3 guys just moved in too man this winter stuff is wild but it did get me more invested into raising and caring for animals

they live with me now sadly in the way

if s6 wants to steal a basic animal care system id say yoink parts of OH
it caps at 6
they need tameness levels, and hunger and water values before you can claim production

might be to complex for palia but overall i assume they would do their own twist to it

[slender crown]

I like gardening in both games. I keep forgetting that Palia does not always give you seeds when you harvest your plants.

[umbral lynx]

I think I like the oh farming more since it's more than follow a pattern and has abit more depth to it like thinking about water, light conditions and having the added lil guys to the mix

The animal part... Ngl I hate it why do I need a fox for thr right kind of bear hide

[slender crown]

The animals are really cool! I want Palia to allow us to have at least a pet if we can't farm animals. My friends and I have a hive compound in OH. Each of us has several bears. It looks crazy on the outside with all of the bears roaming.

[umbral lynx]

I have the egg meme on the go so I got flamingos since haha funny
The fact that palia lore has all these animals and we can't even have one at hoke

home not hoke

[celest maple]

Oh man, the more I have to interact with Hassian, the less I like him. Does he ever stop being such a brooding bigot? Every other sentence from the guy is some racist-adjacent statement about humans. What a weird character.

Genuinely brings the mood down whenever I get mail from him about some new blueprint. I think "oh boy, time to go get scolded for being human again, here we go..."

[quartz kestrel]

He's a binary character. Either people really like him or really dislike him. I'm in camp 2

[celest maple]

Can you make him less awful without romancing him? He's definitely not my type, but I would like for him to mellow out for the sake of the vibes.

[quartz kestrel]

Also: he dislikes chapaas

[runic eagle]

Definitely worth romancing. I didn't like his attitude in the very beginning but he is the only one I will wear the pin of now.

[quartz kestrel]

I maxed his friendship and I still don't like him. He's the only one I'll actively avoid. Too bad, Tau is attached to him.

[runic eagle]

I love Hassian so much for many reasons, I won't spoil it for you in case you decide to go that route.

[quartz kestrel]

Tish, jina and kenyatta are the only ones I fully romanced for now

[runic eagle]

I have romanced them all long ago for the rewards, but I still refuse to hang Tamala's portrait in my home

[quartz kestrel]

Forgot a bout her. She's one I wanna romance too

[celest maple]

Oh man, well I guess you can't always get along with everyone in town.

I like most characters quite a lot, though. Reth is a goober.

[celest maple]

Oh, I didn't even realize you could romance them all. With the same character?

Damn, player character in more ways than one.

[quartz kestrel]

You can romance all the available npcs at once. You can only wear two pins, but other than that, go wild

[runic eagle]

Yeah most all of us do it for the rewards that come along with it.

You can always break up with them, or remove/change pins.
Note: breaking up with them will reset the romance back to 0 though, but you can always swap out which 2 pins you want to wear which won't affect anything.

[placid arrow]

hi guys... i'd like to get your opinion.
is palia changing and developing in a way you enjoy?

[signal kayak]

no, the game will either make it or break it with the release of elderwoods

[placid arrow]

new zone will sure be cool for a while.
i worry bout the basics -.- and am wondering if that is just my personal view.

[runic eagle]

For me personally, I have been playing regularly since Alpha 2022 and I still love this game and continue to play regularly.

[quartz kestrel]

There isn't much change. The game is basically the same as it was when I started with the steam launch. I notice a drop in quality of content. The twitch drops feel lazier, the continuation of the main story questline was done in under an hour and well... you now get another thing to collect in form of the stickers...

It's a fun game, but it feels like they are coasting until elderwoods drops. Also the bugs they introduce with every update...

[celest maple]

The only change I really want to see is the ability to request items you haven't obtained before, or preferably some kind of player market. For an MMO, the player-to-player interaction feels very gated. I think anyone who wants to buy apple seeds or blueberry seeds at farming level 1 should be able to.

[loud axle]

Definitely not. It's very stagnant with little depth... I'd love to see some actual change and development, but I just don't think that's in the cards at this point.

The game appeals to a very niche audience due to how grindy and tedious it is and, while I guess that's okay, I wish they'd broaden things a bit to appeal to more people.

[crimson venture]

Do we know if flowers will be used for something, besides decorating, in the future? I just can't understand why I can't buy seeds for all flowers 🥲 (I wish they would get ubkocked in aunis shop after we've managed to catch the bug that drops them.)

I know each flower gives one seed, but it can be so slow if you've only managed to get one of the flowers you want. 😦

[rare pine]

I don't see that happening. Systems like that are meant to slow players down so they don't realize how little content there actually is in the game. There are so many things in Paylia that infuriating feel so underdeveloped.

[quartz kestrel]

We don't know anything bseides what S6 posts in the news. And as said before: palia is a slow game, you are meant to take your time. I also fell that if we can buy anything, there isn't an incentive to do certain activities

[fiery perch]

Usually that's how it works, but i think it's delayed since there was no preview of the upcoming patch thurs or friday.

[quartz kestrel]

Depends on what you define as such

[fiery perch]

I'm a fan of grindy games, and sometimes tedious. I mean, I'm one of the people who enjoys idle games or clicker games ... but, those usually have some form of goal. I personally don't feel like there is one (again, personally) in Palia currently.

I do hope that changes though. And it isn't just... RNG-simulator with plushies (and now stickers). Because that doesn't feel... uh, idk the word, satisfying? Feel like an accomplishment? I'm sure you know what I mean, at least.

Yeah, usually. And true. Never know.

[crimson venture]

Sure, yeah that's true, still at the same time they let us accumulate tons of money with barely anything to buy with it. I'm hoping that will change with the EW update, though.

[quartz kestrel]

I like to keep expectations about EW low. People always seem to hope that everything in the game will change for the better. I'm not sure much will change mechanics wise, to be honest

[loud axle]

Yeah the lack of goals or accomplishments to work for means the main reason for playing games isn't there for me.

No serotonin. No dopamine. Nothing 😦

[quartz kestrel]

I'm always waiting for new furniture sets. The spa set was fun, but the wedding set was disappointing

[ember lynx]

speaking of the wedding set, im wondering if that will ever be implemented in game mechanics?

[ember lynx]

I agree. I think the issue I have w the game rn is a lack of content for the character relationships. ive maxed out pretty much everyone but I understand that the game is still under development

[hasty grail]

Are there any new updates on the release of Elderwood?

[hollow crescent]

not yet https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/809857031116685348 would probably be posted there whn they announce anything :)

[merry cape]

🤣😂

[rapid blade]

Is the rummage pile in Bahari not showing up for anyone else? This particular spot always gives me issues.

[merry cape]

I would like to apologize for replying to a comment that is over a month old.. I came into this thread and it loaded into February.. and it took me 10 mins to scroll to today. Delete the meme if it's not appropriate here, but I thought it was funny and was exactly what I thought of when she said that.

[spark haven]

Anyone know where to get the cool for trade images that people use in the trading room?

[opal cypress]

Here you go https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1326268508417429584 .
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[olive carbon]

https://tiermaker.com/create/test-17594356
There's a sticker one too
https://tiermaker.com/create/palia-sticker-trading-17929381

[spark haven]

Ty pookie

[low hill]

hello can someone tell me what the deco limit looks like i got quited back then because it was not increased

[urban tree]

There is one thing I can't for the life of me figure out. I have maxed out almost everyone's relationships and haven't found any reason in game that makes sense to me.
I know Eshe goes on patrol every morning to "make sure everything is running smoothly". Is there a reason she hangs out in front of Elousia's house? I feel like Eshe would not like Elousia and it feels like it makes more sense for her to hang out in front of like Tish's house. Does she do it to like check in on Elousia and make sure she's not doing anything crazy? Are they secretly friends somehow even though that feels insane? Am I missing something here? It feels so weird just seeing her hanging out at Elousia's in the morning.

[urban tree]

I believe it's 3,000?

[low hill]

still ? that is far too little

[signal kayak]

anything more at the current state would completely crash out the switch players, heck, i've been crashed going to max plot limit tours

[warm python]

pffffhahahaha it genuinely should

[hidden trail]

Iirc she's collecting taxes

But Eloisa and caleri live together, sama way tish and reth live together

[ember lynx]

does anyone else think it’d be nice to have like weather changes in game anf stuff?

like storms and such, kinda like mc

[hollow crescent]

all they time it’s a very requested thing but for performance issues atm we don’t have it

[ember lynx]

oop lol. checks out

[ember rampart]

Question: Will the game ever change this thing of requesting things which we ALREADY got before to "request everything (including the things which we didn't get, like some fishes/stones/insects)"?
I find this a bit frustrating to not be allowed to request something you really need, just because you didn't get it before. I saw some players not happy with this either

[lyric night]

probably not, highly doubt that at least

they said early on that requesting won't replace a possible trading and all we got for trading was stickers and plushies ( )
but that might change eventually who knows

[marsh depot]

Honestly doubtful, many people have requested trading to be expanded for items/furniture before or for requests to be reworked but they seem reluctant to change it. No word so far but

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[ember rampart]

This is a pity...the game has many nice things, but I think this one would have been really helpful...

[wise moat]

i hope so. a while back i mentioned how || choosing certain people as your shep is supposed to be personal and seems to equate to being close siblings or even spouses (like with jina). || So im hoping there will be something further for those of us looking for something beyond platonic, even if its cutesy. im not looking for spicy dialogue or anything like that.

[ember lynx]

ive been saying!! I dlnt need the spice as long ss we get more cute interactions hehe

[wise moat]

right! i dont even flirt anymore because it just loops

someone else mentioned even being able to give and receive pins from other players. like my wife and i play together, how cute would that be?

[slender crown]

Logged in, stuck inside my body and can't move What is this bug? Sleep paralysis?

[torn kindle]

Oh wow
On the bright side, it seems like you have very nice teeth.

[celest maple]

Am I misinterpreting the wiki, or are there a lot more female outfits than male outfits?

Oh okay, that's cool then. I was about to say that a lot of the "female" outfits could work just as well for a "male" body. The wiki has nearly 100% female avatars modeling them, so I must have misunderstood.

[spark willow]

Anyone know where to post for plushie trade trying to get the snake plushie?

[opal cypress]

Here you go https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1326268508417429584 .
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Make sure to "Add to Channel List", to have it visible at all times.

[visual pulsar]

I'd like it if we could hold down the loot button and it would loot all nearby items. Getting tired of pressing the button over and over in group gameplay.

[cosmic topaz]

For those who have played longer than... half a year, would you agree that Palia feels like the sort of game you get really happy about starting out in and then takes a break from to return 3-6 months later to see what is new?

I still have quite a bit of endgame that keeps me coming back. Skill medals especially. Fishing, cooking and the final two relationship levels. But I rarely stay for more than a week at a time. 30 minutes must be when you already have everything you want :)?

[cosmic topaz]

(I'm new to Discord 🙂 Is it common practice in Discord servers to reply to the previous message about the same topic in a channel, or is it a personal preference, maybe for notification purposes?)

Ah. So that makes sense. If there is nothing new other than the weeklies, and one has already gotten all the items from the skills medals...

Yes, I can see how you then would much quicklyer exit 🙂

[dry swift]

Yeah, it's pretty common practice just incase that poster of that previous message may have walked away from their keyboard for a bit just so that they're pinged and can read it.

[cosmic topaz]

Thanks for clarifying ^_^

Good to know, but I don't mind 🙂
Usually I disable all notifcations for an app, if it becomes too often. Mental health and all. The good thing is that most chat apps has a marker for new replies inside the apps 🙂

[fiery perch]

It's also easier to showcase that you're replying to that specific message. If theyr'e already typing int he channel, I like to click on a button where I don't actually ping them, but it's still responding to said message.

(was replying to show that it's an option to not have it ping, and to show the image!)

I also like to do that to where I'm replying to a msg as a way to show a "source" of something, or if i like the idea/concept someone mentioned, but I dont want to actually reply to the person and ping them. Esp since it can be an easy way to "go back" to a message previously

Oh, yes. When it's a fast moving chat, I will still let it do the ping. Like it can get on patch days lol
Because like you said, ciri, the highlight is helpful for that

[cosmic topaz]

I'm slightly confused and I do not want to bother anyone.
Does that mean that @ should be set to OFF or ON as a default, when I reply :)?

[fiery perch]

By default, it shows @ ON, which means it will ping. If you want to make sure it doesn't ping or highlight, on PC I click it to swap it to @ OFF, and then the ping gets disabled!

And it's personally preference if you want it to ping someone or not. Like we were saying, it can be helpful in fast moving chats (like on patch days!), or if it's been a while (like 15-30 minutes).

(Although, if youre replying to a dev/s6 message, always make sure the ping is off unless theyre active in chat!)

[umbral lynx]

Me who has everything muted... Yes it's great your pings get saved and you can ignore that looming red dot

[fiery perch]

Then there's me, who will eat pings for breakfast /silly

[umbral lynx]

May I offer you for lunch my dear

[fiery perch]

oh my gosh

[dry swift]

I usually just mute all the Discord's I'm in unless I'm pinged directly.

[umbral lynx]

It's like not that bad I think I don't wanna look at it on desktop

[dry swift]

I don't even have the Discord app on my phone. I feel like that'd be too distracting lol. I don't really have anything to do with gaming on my mobile devices because I figure if I'm not at my PC I'm doing something where I want to be in the moment.

[fiery perch]

I like seeing if there's a notification that I get, then I just go back to bed, really. But if it's a palia notification for patch day (because i might of forgot), then ... I end up back to my pc

(and this is me trying to also make convo stay palia-related )

[dry swift]

I'm trying to break free from doomscrolling, though it can be hard some days.

[fiery perch]

I usually read on my phone tbh; it's where i store my books. So I get you!

I also hope you're doing alright 💛

[dry swift]

Doing well. Wife and I got a stomach bug this morning but I figure if I work than it'll keep myself sufficiently distracted and our kid is staying with Grandma today so my wife can get some sleep.

[fiery perch]

I hope you both feel better soon!

[dry swift]

How are you feeling today?

[fiery perch]

So-so. Been spending all my morning fishing in a game, to clear my mind and just chill/relax, honestly 💛

[cosmic topaz]

That was quite a lot to process and I did not mean for the Palia topics to turn into general Discord behavior and mental heath 😅 Though the inclusiveness and focus on mental health is also a big part of what makes Palia so wonderful 🫶🏼

I'll try to recap what I learned, and you can tell me if I got it right 🙂
So...
On Discord servers, it's considered polite to mark the last direct reply (not just general chat in the channel) to you as a reply to them, but disable ping unless you think they might not notice otherwise. Also disable ping if you're replying to an S6 message.

Was that correct :)?

[fiery perch]

Haha, you're fine! We also just chat a lot here sometimes! 💛 We are palia-discussions, afterall!

Well, I think the 'polite' is subjective! It really depends on the person! Like, for me, I don't really view it as something that is or isn't polite. I just find it as a way to easily continue a conversation and/or reply to specific messages, especially in a chat that seems relatively fast.

BUT, it is definitely 100% correct that you shouldn't ping a S6 Message (unless they're active in chat!), since that is part of the rules in the server!

Like, for me, at least, I like when ppl ping me specifically when they respond to a msg of mine. Even if I'm somewhat active-- I still might miss it personally. I alt-tab a lot, and it helps get my attention back over 😅

[cosmic topaz]

The last is most important. Got it. Until now I was not aware that marking a message as a reply was considered pinging. I thought the act of pinging was a separate action 🙂

Thanks ^_^

I usually only use reply if the message I am replying to is not the latest in chat.

[fiery perch]

It can be both! Since replying to a message (unless you select the @ OFF option), does/can ping at the same time!

And that makes sense! It just depends on the person 100%

[cosmic topaz]

Ah. So it's a feature within a feature and it's turned ON by default, so if you do not know about it, you ping without knowing. Got it 🙂

[ember rampart]

Did anyone else receive the gifts today from Palia team, in game? They send from time to time and I find this very nice 😇

[cosmic topaz]

There's one every day? Is it not just once logging between two dates ?

[ember rampart]

Umm, no?
I don't get a gift every day. Just once in a while. Wait, there are people getting gifts every day? 🤔

[umbral lynx]

They tend to align with hoildays in America (fun fact some hoildays have different dates around the world!) like today is st Patrick, they had pi day and 311 Amber (a song dunno) which might be abit to old for most palia players but someone at s6 likes it

[ember rampart]

Oh, this makes sense!

[cosmic topaz]

I logged in now and there was something. A green pearl, a gold bar and .. I ready forgot the last item, because I got an NPC to full level and it triggered a quest ^_^;;

[fast sonnet]

Awh, that was a cute little gift lol

[cosmic topaz]

I thought so :3
More useful than amber or pie, which I sell and eat, respectively 😛

[merry cape]

311 and Sugar Ray was my first real live concert (alone without parental chaperones and whatnot). 🥲 It was surprisingly one of the better live shows I've been to. Although.. NIN is hard to top.

(I didn't know they had a reward for 311 Amber lol)

But I digress, as that is off topic. Apologies.

[umbral lynx]

Well we think? There wasn't a offical announcement but javi wandered in linking it

I can't even explain that interaction

[merry cape]

I mean.. devs just do dev things, sometimes. The mystery makers of the other worlds are, indeed, mysterious, some days.

If it were me.. I, too, would create mischief and confusion.. just because. Lol

[umbral lynx]

Head of publishing I think?

[olive carbon]

Look ma, I'm famous

[fiery perch]

Fern 💛

[olive carbon]

Timezones orii

[fiery perch]

Hope youre well.

[olive carbon]

Am good! Bout to get up and have some coffee

[warm python]

o/

[teal cargo]

The moving platforms in The Tower randomly teleporting to a different position is so frustrating 😭

[half oak]

@runic eagle yes koi pond should be fixed in upcoming patch

[snow violet]

I chose Chayne as my shepp and I was really hoping I’d get more info on all their history and stuff. I just wanted to learn 😂 but if it was a whole like mentor storyline type thing, I’d be glued to the screen again

[slender crown]

That makes too much sense for Palia to continue the storyline there. ||I was hoping for more Shepp related story stuff after choosing one too. Or to learn more about my Shepp|| But nope. Bled and disappointed

[lethal granite]

ikr? i’m actually getting work done. it’s so weird.

i think i would’ve minded the shepp ceremony a lot more if i hadn’t gotten the wreath i did

[umbral lynx]

If they ever add zones they should have a shepp per zone so people can get them all

[lethal granite]

sheppemon? gotta catch em all?

[west marlin]

For the longest time(and still now but just cause I'm lazy) I was waiting to pick a shepp incase it matters or impacted something

[turbid delta]

Ok, I officially really dislike Chayne. I liked him in the beginning and thought he brought a really soothing feel to the village, but after doing his quest and seeing his reaction to help despite putting my character in a lose lose situation (needing expertise) and now doing this quest where he totally wasted my time completely... I'm done LOL. So far, he's worst villager for me.

[normal saddle]

i also do not like him, But i havent done any friendship quests yet because I just think he's a little annoying when asking for veggies. We get it dude, you're a vegetarian. You told me like 7 times this week.

No hate to vegitarians or vegans, btw. I just hate being told the same dang thing multiple times. Especially in one interaction. But also I have ADHD with my suspected autism. It's weird in my brain

[turbid delta]

Yeah I can definitely see that being a frustrating point of his dialgue. Surprisingly I don't remember him giving my character the run down on his diet constantly LOL. 🤣 Although, I did just start skipping through chat dialogue at some point. I appreciate the writing in the game. I recognize how they give their characters a more complex / rounded out history / personality, but it's getting really predictible. If they're gruff / rude, they'll be nice and sweet, if they're calm and gentle, they'll show a more irritable / angry side. It's fine, not terrible, but man don't waste my time to face LOL. Oh well

[normal saddle]

oh thank god- You gave me a heart attack with how long you were typing for. I thought I said something wrong and was about to get a verbal lashing lol

[turbid delta]

Oh no! I'm sorry! I like to pick out those adorable emojis LOL. I'm sorry for scaring you 🫂

[normal saddle]

You're fine! lol. My anxiety likes to get the better of me sometimes, especially with social interactions. Also, I know sometimes talking about whether or not you eat meat can be a touchy subject for the net.

[dusky zephyr]

I’ve seen 311 in concert 12 times so this was a happy lil shoutout. I’d have loved to have seen NIN!

[merry cape]

I'm soo jealous for you seeing 311 that many times! NIN was spendy, but a great show! trigger warning ||My first hubs gave me so much trauma (while listening to NIN, among others) that I have a hard time listening to almost anything from them now. 🥲 Not the only music he ruined for me.. but certainly one I despise him for ruining for me.|| I saw them (NIN) in Houston around 2008 or 2009?

[warm python]

interesting

We are seeking a Community Manager for a 3-month temporary assignment to support the upcoming expansion of our flagship game, Palia.

[west marlin]

3 months 🥺

[warm python]

big oof tbh

[umbral lynx]

So... Limited edition cm? Wonder what happened to the talks

[brisk spruce]

temporary?

[warm python]

Hiring a CM only for a few weeks for the launch of an expansion is kinda wild when everything's in the state it's currently in

So much for that ig

[fiery perch]

the term expansion is very interesting to me

[hollow crescent]

yea i guess it’s not really expansion is it just new areas

cuz expansion is like, a lot more content

[warm python]

Who even knows what lays in store at this point since they've said little to nothing about it

[umbral lynx]

Palia has content?

[dire lake]

i just started playing yesterday is the dev team like finicky??

[loud axle]

...So did the CM they had before see the state of things and peace out orrrr have they not actually found one after the last few months?

Because I could have sworn WC said they were onboarding someone?

[warm python]

I feel like if they were proud of the lots of work they're doing on EW they would be less tight lipped about it, so my head immediately goes to "it's going to be underwhelming as hell and they dont actually have anything to say"

[neat compass]

I cannot imagine anyone feeling like they are set up for success when the assignment is only 3 months long to begin with. By the time you're on your feet, the job is done.

Community management isn't something you just hop in and hop out of

[olive carbon]

Not to mention doing it alone

[warm python]

WC said a few months ago they were in the process of interviewing and that's the last we heard about that

like two months ago I think? last I recall

[neat compass]

It was January. I remember because it was around the same time as the fires

[brisk spruce]

especially in a community that's already lost its trust in the company, whoever gets that job is being set up for failure if they're alone

[fiery perch]

They just don't have any CMs currently, and communication is usually not the greatest w/ S6. They claimed they were going to work on it, but we'll see. A lot of us is still trying to get that trust back with the dev team as a whole due to past experiences, and the lack of communication that has already happened/occured.

I'm sure others can be a bit more in-depth, but my spoons are a little low rn

[dire lake]

ohhhh

[marsh depot]

Specially sus/odd considering in most jobs there's a "3 month trial" to see if you're fit for the position long term.

[fiery perch]

I think this is what that's supposed to be. Especially since on the page, it said an extension could happen depending on performance..?

[warm python]

it says "possible extension" lower down on the page but we all know what that means when companies say that lmao

[loud axle]

I just can't imagine applying for a job that only advertised itself for 3 months. That's barely enough time to even get setup / on your feet.

[fiery perch]

But it still feels weird to me that it's being advertised like that, personally!

[warm python]

This is a 3-month Temporary Assignment position with a possible extension. The assignment extension will depend on your performance and the studio's direction.

[fiery perch]

Also the fact it seems like it's only for the "expansion" is also very... odd to me. but

[loud axle]

"Studio's direction" sounds... quite ominous about the state of things

[signal kayak]

3 months for a community manager? that's not a good thing. what, they think they would only need for a temp person for an ongoing game?

[warm python]

like I'm sorry but the only direction your studio is going in if you can't have a CM in a live service game is down

[fiery perch]

for an "expansion" (at least, again, that's how it sounds to me)

Which is... interesting that Elderwood might be labeled as 'expansion'. like in a sense i get it, but also, the world feels to small (personally) to be called that. Depends. I also worry about the term "expansion" or something, because i always end up thinking it'll be paid for. (again, just how i feel/worry etc. coming from WoW, FF14, etc!)

[marsh depot]

Yeah it still sounds very odd being advertised like that, most places would say "you'll have to undergo x amount of time in training/trial and then sign an x months contract with possibility of renewal". Idk its just an odd way to advertise it and in some cases can be a bit of a red flag (I.e as an excuse for termination after the 3 months but who knows)

[warm python]

I would not want to go through 2-3 months of interviewing for a 3 month job, just, oof

[marsh depot]

At least in my country, such a short term contract usually means you'll get no benefits but idk how it works in the US. I'm hoping this isn't the case.

[neat compass]

I'm very sleepy today but I am having such a difficult time wrapping my brain around this. So many weird/alarming things in one job post 😅

[fiery perch]

It does say benefits are included, at least

[warm python]

Ain't no way in this economy and sociopolitical situation I would want to go into a job knowing I'd only have three months security

Better than nothing ig but that'd be like an absolute last resort and I'd be spending more of my day putting in job apps elsewhere than anything else

[fiery perch]

Or at least, i think it does. I'd assume when they added the benefit listing it's also for the temporary position, even tho it says "full-time employee benefits" on it lol

It'd be weird to have that listed under the job posting but nto be included

(def something i'd end up asking for clarification on since of the wording. just how my 'tism brain is)

[marsh depot]

I think it's common practice in most companies for there to be a trial period. I've even seen ones for up to 6 months trial. But the way this is worded, it makes it sound as if they can find an excuse to terminate your contract after 3 months.

[neat compass]

It would be less weird if the trial period was specified in the same way for all of their positions.

As Palcat has said, it's not unusual for an employer to have a probationary period when someone first gets hired. It is unusual to include that in the headline of the job post lol

[runic eagle]

It does state further down, possible extension based off their performance and the studio's direction.

"This is a 3-month Temporary Assignment position with a possible extension. The assignment extension will depend on your performance and the studio's direction."

[lethal granite]

#💬│palia-discussions message

[west marlin]

Maybe this is a second CM.... 🥺 Or am I too optimistic

[neat compass]

Oh he mentioned it before that too? Wowzers

[loud axle]

Oh my sweet summer child

[warm python]

Way more faith than I have that's for sure

[marsh depot]

From someone I know who works in the industry, usually 3 months trial is the practice (some places will ask for 6 months) , with contracts usually spanning 6 months - 1 full year. At least in QA.

[fiery perch]

yes, we discussed that a moment ago

but it's still strange to be having that as somethign youre advertising, rather than just saying the job comes with a trial period. there's a difference imho, like we also mentioned

[runic eagle]

Mhm

[warm python]

It's the only job listing on the whole page that says it in the job title though iirc

Which leaves me thinking it's more temporary than trial and the trial thing is just put in there to make it seem better because technically they aren't lying even if they can the person 90 days in

[fiery perch]

With being advertised as temporary, for 3 months, it means "hey this job is going to probably be over after that. Sure, it might be extended, but def not guranteed at all."

Vs a job listing, that says "there's a 3 month trial period, and unless you mess up or we dont like performance, youre staying on". That's how it usually reads to me and feels.

[marsh depot]

Even when I've seen it being in the headline, they differentiate the trial period from the contract itself or completely forego the trial in some cases.

[fiery perch]

Plus, for me, it also feels weird since it sounds like theyre wanting the CM specifically for Elderwood when it drops. It's just how it feels, since it's worded that way esp with noting an "expansion".

[marsh depot]

Yeah, if anything we were all hoping and expecting a long term CM. Specially if they're hoping for EW to be their "official" launch.

[marsh depot]

Get ready for EW DLC expansion pack, for the low price of $9.99 /j

[fiery perch]

i know youre joking, but im lowkey concerned about this since that's where my mind goes with the term "expansion" i blame me playing WoW, FF14, etc

[loud axle]

That will literally be the end of this game lol

[neat compass]

I know a CM hasn't been a high priority for S6, but I at least thought they knew what a CM is supposed to do. What can one single brand new person achieve when they are thrown into the company at its busiest/most chaotic time for only 3 months? For lack of a better term, it just feels...wasteful?

[marsh depot]

Honestly I don't know what to expect from them anymore

[marsh depot]

It really is. It's a huge waste of time and resources for both parts.

Oh I never do. I just wouldn't be surprised if they did do what Ori mentioned tbh.

[neat compass]

"You'll foster a positive, engaging, and cohesive player community" while also working on launch communications, engagement initiatives, patch notes, blog posts, social media, community feedback...and you have 3 months. They may have a chance at success if they don't require sleep or sustenance.

[warm python]

Yeah this place has gotten quieter and quieter over time for Many a Reason

Aside from the patch announcement/patch day spike

[fiery perch]

I've just been focused on fishing on a diff game. and looking forward to some other stuff. but i wont get into it too much since it's off-topic lol

(Just saying why I've been quiet at least, esp for today. Just been fixated )

[olive carbon]

Even that is very, very mild of late I've noticed. Not like it was even a few updates ago.

[marsh depot]

Same here, won't mention the game so I won't be "invited over to discuss" in off topic

[neat compass]

I know this will be annoying because I haven't shut up about it. I've actually been in the mood to decorate my plot lately, but I always end up logging off in frustration because of the pavers. 😅 People excited for the market often got sick of crashing or their tickets not adding up correctly and would log off in frustration too. Others gave up because they can't finish quests. Hard to stay interested when the game itself is pushing us out.

[fiery perch]

we love those kind of games

[rare pine]

I've been getting an education so no time to be in the salt mines with y'all. I hope you're all doing well though

[fiery perch]

Yeah, I have frustrations with Palia, myself. That just makes me nto want to bother with decorating nowadays. Or to even login sometimes.

I'm just looking forward to housing in some other games I enjoy playing now.

[boreal forge]

I used to have hope for this game, but its management is atrocious. EW will not bring me back.

[signal kayak]

good luck with your schooling

[fiery perch]

I'll def at least login when EW drops, I think. To do some testing, see how some stuff works, etc. Like I usually do for patch updates.

[rare pine]

This is how I've felt the last few times I've booted up the game. I could do [insert this thing] or [insert that thing], but then I have to stand outside my housing plot for 5-10 business days to avoid a crash and I'm just like.... yeah nevermind....

[marsh depot]

Honestly same. Been wanting to finish my plot but knowing all the messed up placement tags and crashes, eh I'd rather deal with The Sims.

[boreal forge]

oh are they expecting things to be sugarcoated in here?

[fiery perch]

But, admittedly, if Temple of Gales is still not fixed for me (as in, a skip, an alternate way to do said temple etc)... I doubt I'll play consistently. I'll be locked behind main story. I hope it wont lock me from the zone as well. We'll see.

(And before someone mentions i can look at a youtube video, i appreciate it, but my issue is more about how i feel with heights. it's really bad haha)

[neat compass]

Yeah I can deal with a bug here and there, but lately it feels like any activity I'd want to do has the potential to end abruptly and/or frustrate the heck out of me. I've thought about jumping back into Sims lately too...

[fiery perch]

Not to mention, some ppl have issue with gales due to other reasons-- like.. mobility related ones, etc

[fiery perch]

Sims for the gameplay, or the decorating/building? (or both) 👀

[hollow crescent]

mhm i hope the skip or whatever they have planned is updated to there soon , cuz at this rate it might be elderwoods before that comes out and who knows what will be xD

[marsh depot]

Not to go off topic but with another game releasing housing/building too, makes me even less compelled to decorate in Palia atm. (also at least The Sims let's us change the ceilings wallpaper)

[neat compass]

Definitely the decorating/building. That's what I've had the itch for lately!

[marsh depot]

TS2 for the gameplay, TS4 for building/dressing up sim (personally at least)

[hollow crescent]

more like a sweet/sour candy

[fiery perch]

Not trying to be off topic, but wanting to at least recommend a few for that real fast:
Small Spaces (just a demo but it's still promising and has potential)
SummerHouse is nice to decorate- not really about the inside/interior, but just the building
Whisper of the House-- Similar to unpacking, but still, enjoyable to decorate.

((okay, just wanted to recommend here since i doubt it'll be full convo! back to palia chatter for me))

[fiery perch]

Yeah... I know i"ve talked about it with Vega before. And they said they couldn't (at the time, since theyre working on toher stuff, i believe?) do it to past temples, but they at least have a skip option in a sense for the newer one they released

[neat compass]

Ooooh thank you!! Mhmm yes, Palia. It's not so fun when buzzy flickering pavers throw off my decorating groove 😂

[fiery perch]

ofc, you know me, always here to give game recommendations

And yeah. I think a few people feel like that with the pavers? From what i've seen said in palia-gen and even in issues-discussions :(

[dusky rivet]

Goodness there's a lot of complaining going on. It sounds to me as though a lot of people's issues could be fixed by downloading the full game rather than the Steam version and having a decent spec computer. This is a free game, still in development and the community is one of the best I've encountered. Can't wait for the Elderwoods expansion.

[marsh depot]

I'm sorry but what full game are you refering to? Also people with beefy PC's are still experiencing issues so idk what to tell you.

The steam launcher and original launcher are the absolute same.

[fiery perch]

I honestly don't get this comment. And people are moreso expressing concerns, and have even given critique in the past. Which is healthy & good to also have for a game that claims to still be in beta.

[brisk spruce]

also a good spec computer and downloading the website launcher instead of steam doesn't fix things that were mentioned like the paver bug so... no?

[marsh depot]

Bait used to be believable ig.

[fiery perch]

The game is poorly optimized, it runs horrible on switch (which some people can only play on the switch due to not having a PC).

I have a good PC. I run MHWilds fine, for example. But this game still will lag, freeze and have FPS drops. Especially when I open the social panel for some reason...?

[marsh depot]

I have a laptop that runs Nikki on medium settings better than Palia in the lowest settings.

[fiery perch]

And a game that's free, is a business strategy. And even then-- just because a game is free anyways, doesn't mean that will stop people from giving critique, saying concerns, etc. People can give those things while also still enjoying the game and hoping/wishing for the best for said game.

[west marlin]

Huh

Sir, this is a Wendy's

[fiery perch]

Plus some people have already spent money on the game for cosmetics, so it isnt really "free" for those folks lol-- not like that really changes anything (or really stops it from being free). just wanted to point that out, too, tho

[brisk spruce]

installing Palia from the website also certainly isn't going to get us a CM replacement! almost like that was what started the convo.

[olive carbon]

Palia launcher being the "full game" is a laughable statement considering the native launcher has had huge issues launching its own game and still does moreso than steam at times

[fiery perch]

like it's very valid and fair, for someone, esp someone who has spent money (and a lot of time on the game, too. time is valuable) to want a game that functions, doesn't have a lot of bugs, runs decently, etc and just overall works. Like, that's expected?

[west marlin]

I'm just baffled what exactly is fixed by downloading from steam vs the website

[marsh depot]

I turned to the steam launcher because updating from the native launcher took me legit over 3 hours.

[fiery perch]

thing that's funny is that there at least used to be an issue with the official launcher and some folks had to install it on steam for it to run/install

[brisk spruce]

remember those times where the website launcher didn't get the patch until way later than the other platforms (including steam) too?

[west marlin]

I remember that

[fiery perch]

idk if that's fixed now tho, but it was an issue for a little bit.

[marsh depot]

I've seen it go both ways for people tbh so yeah it's a very laughable comment.

[native topaz]

Haven't they even said that the native launcher is going to be going away and we will have to use the Steam or Epic Games launcher?

[fiery perch]

I don't remember this being said, but i wouldn't be surprised

[olive carbon]

My one alloted meme in this channel for the day before I enter my sass cooldown

[brisk spruce]

if they have, I missed it. I'll never do that though lol my Steam friends don't need to know that I've played Palia

[snow grove]

You can just hide the game haha

[fiery perch]

i wonder what my friends think sometimes when they know i have my issues with Palia and the like, yet see my hours being 100 or so on steam. but that's all from me testing patches/updates, logging in to help folks, get quick screenshots to explain something...

[brisk spruce]

at the point of having to reinstall why bother though?

[fiery perch]

bc as much as i have my issues with palia, still want to help the community when I can and see if things have improved

[snow grove]

^ This

[brisk spruce]

I have plenty of games on Steam that I can play instead if I'm already going to be playing something on there. people will just drag me out of Palia to play games with them

[snow grove]

Having a million different launchers would bother the heck out of me

[fiery perch]

i have a few different launchers now lol. some i honestly end up forgetting about

[brisk spruce]

I'm older than Steam, a million different launchers (actually, CDs or floppy disks) is all we had 👵

[marsh depot]

I only miss being able to log into alt accounts from the native launcher.

[snow grove]

Times are changed, you can launch everything through steam now, the launchers wont hurt anymore lol

[fiery perch]

I remember when i wanted to make another account/character, so i could do a cute RP with them in a Scrap-booking kind of way. Take pictures, make little notes and put it in a way that almost felt like they were writing a journal or making a scrap book...

Then i realized, and remembered, that there's no real "progression" that's free, esp with clothes etc. so it just didnt feel like it'd work for what i wanted to do. sadge

[brisk spruce]

I don't need to though. I'm not afraid of extra programs on my computer, I prefer it personally. I don't even have warframe installed through steam 🙃

[loud axle]

Every time someone comes in with the "it's a free game, still in development, etc." lines I have a Ron Swanson moment of "I know more than you" :x

[warm python]

Daaaamn did I miss another one when I was distracted

[fiery perch]

Whenever I see it said, I just imagine you kinda sitting there, reading it like this: "uh huh.."

[ivory vessel]

just another ~kind~ soul trying to stirr up arguments, for whatever reason that is beyond me... said their questionable opinion and disappeared. the heck is up with that (we all know what's up with that but um... yeah)

[fiery perch]

was trying to find a decent sip type emote. some that i have seems way too "sassy" or "annoyed/grumpy/mad" which isnt the vibe. just like "uh huh.. sure." kinda just like, "what else is new" kind of vibe, i guess. if that makes sense

i can tell im tired. im rambling too mcuh whoopsie. back to games

[slender crown]

There's wedding outfits and wedding decor but no weddings in Palia lol. I wonder if it's hinting at something.

[limpid root]

With half of it behind the paywall (outfits) I'd certainly hope not.

[neat compass]

this is one of my favorites:

[umbral lynx]

You could ask s6 for a sip..oh wait

[fiery perch]

it always depends on what vibe im going for with the sip. Some i feel like are innocent/curious, and then some just feels sassy or like "...really?" hehe

[umbral lynx]

If only

[warm python]

What? A normal tea sipping emote? In MY Palia?

[dusky rivet]

LOL, glad to have stirred up so much emotion 🙂

[wise moat]

LOOOL

glad the gifs arent working for me

[fiery perch]

embeds not being allowed, at it again /silly

[wise moat]

awh they were from discord gifs

[fiery perch]

yeah, they still count as embeds!

only way really to get them to work, is downloading/uploading yourself. and the Phone keyboard gif button works (or something like that) lol

[wise moat]

i want my gifs for passive aggressiveness

oh well

that cat giggle is too cute

[marsh depot]

dw you can still use stickers and emotes

[wise moat]

ah yes this is true! also with people who like to "stir up emotion" the new ignore button is nice

[fiery perch]

hehe it's one of my favs and is in my rotation of emotes to use. Esp for giggling

[wise moat]

i just have dis one

[fiery perch]

I have a few. And I swap/use whichever one seems appropriate. My other fav is , for when I find something really really amusing hahah

[wise moat]

not the dogKek lmao

i wish i could collect emotes like we can stickers irl

im off topic actually, my apologies

[pulsar meteor]

but them nobody else could see more than a handful

There, brought us back round again

[wise moat]

lovely

[warm python]

[fiery perch]

this made me giggle, thank you

[warm python]

same tbh LOL

[pulsar meteor]

I love this game, sometimes I just gotta scratch my head

Do we still think that we'll get altered forms of the harvest house at some point? Like ravenwood, ranch house, or bellflower?

It seems in my head like it wouldn't be too complex, and any connected rooms could just inherit the style of the core

[warm python]

I'd hope so, variety always helps!

[fiery perch]

I can see it happening way down the line. I guess it depends on how Elderwood goes, since it seems like theyr'e focusing on that...?

And they seem to be more focused on adding RNG things (plushies, stickers), and more decor sets, so... ?

I can honestly see them doing that as a premium too, similar to plot skins :\ just calling them house skins instead.

[warm python]

In FFXIV (come at me bro) you can change the interior of your house/apartment and it changes like, the interior structure (pillars, stairs, ceilings, etc), it'd be interesting for Palia to have a similar feature to give some variety and extra themeing for the houses!

but yeah unfortunately what Orii said, I'm afraid they'd slap that in the cash shop too

[pulsar meteor]

If they lined up with furniture sets (which we expected when there were only like five) I would expect it to be free, but if they came up with novel designs instead, I could see that being in Tish's Architecture Club yeah

[marsh depot]

You know what I actually wish Palia had? A system similar to TinyGlade's building. Just more versatility of any sort would be nice.

[pulsar meteor]

Now I can't help but see an ormuu drifting down with an umbrella

[warm python]

I need to check that out sometime, I heard good things about it

[fiery perch]

It definitely depends, i feel like. :\ I can see them being premium or free. I'd prefer free, obviously, esp since it could match specific furniture sets, but...

Some of the plot skins I could view was free, too, but... yeah.

I would love to see a variety with different themes of housing builds though. It'd be super interesting. It could also be neat if you could mix and match rooms with the house, too. so a small room could be in the style of idk Bellflower, but the main harvest house was in the style of something else.

could look a bit odd depending on how it's done, but.. i think it could be interesting at least.

[marsh depot]

I haven't played it myself but it does look really nice. Just imagine being able to have more than 1 window on your wall. Or placing buildings diagonally. I get the exact same as Tiny Glade probably wouldn't be feasible on Palia but the current system is just so restrictive, even Raft is a bit more versatile.

[pulsar meteor]

In the brief life of H1Z1, not sure how much of it lived on elsewhere, there was a relatively flexible shelter system - you had a large foundation, call it 4 by 6 'tiles'. You could place walls or gates on any side of any tile to make custom layouts, roof over them, even build ramps and stairs up to the top for effectively two story buildings

[warm python]

Oh that's a name I haven't heard in a while

[pulsar meteor]

Given what we know about the backend and limitations, I feel like that kind of flexibility would be possible here if they were interested, but freeform is probably too optimistic

Though personally I feel that palia's housing system is the one area I liked less as they iterated on it over testing. I enjoyed my earlier builds more and haven't done much with it since launch

[quartz kestrel]

A free floating camera in build mode would help a lot

[hard basin]

I see what you mean over there

[keen cape]

Would anyone be able to share my friend request link? https://accounts.palia.com/sign-up?referral=3c320e68-9c44-4921-b876-c827fb41fcf5

Thank you so much

[brisk spruce]

but the channel is so dead, what else would we talk about?

[dry swift]

Good morning everyone!

What's our topic of discussion today? 😄

[brisk spruce]

my topic of discussion is bed 🛌 so I'll go discuss that with myself while you have fun here

[dry swift]

We all just finished sleeping for about 14 hours here feeling much better now.

[brisk spruce]

sleeping for 14 hours sounds lovely right now

[dry swift]

we all had a 1-day stomach bug yesterday so it was nice to have an excuse to catch up on sleep

[cosmic topaz]

What a horrible system, that we have to have an excuse to get proper sleep X_x

[dry swift]

Eh, more like the system of my own terrible choices xD

[cosmic topaz]

Ah... That is a problem for many, as far as I know ^_^;;

[torn kindle]

My PC arrives tonight and I’m so pumped
Only played on Switch so far

[drowsy cloud]

Isn’t it somewhat unusual that we haven’t got a teaser yet?

[neat compass]

They are behind schedule in terms of their "usual" teaser/update cadence, yes. But they've gone off schedule before. Something probably got delayed

Palia's newest expansion - Palia: Borked & Beyond

[wispy lance]

So hyped for you, yey!

[quartz kestrel]

Sounds like a quest for Tau

Bork --> Borked --> Borked & beyond

[cosmic topaz]

May it provide a bug-free experience in all games!

[torn kindle]

Manifesting this

[lethal granite]

get ready for ||flowers in the overworld ||

[torn kindle]

I have seen so many videos and wondered if I even had the same game as these people

[lethal granite]

i turned it off when i switched to PC 😂 it made bug hunting more difficult. but yes the graphics are… it’s so hard to go back to switch. every time i was forced to (bc traveling), it got worse and worse

[torn kindle]

Oh no I got Einared

[torn kindle]

That’s what I’m afraid of cause.. what about bed potato time?

[neat compass]

That's such a good idea. I keep meaning to tweak some settings but I always forget. Need to forge some tiny bit of meeks luck for myself by removing flowers

[cosmic topaz]

I would still like the grass to react to my character like in any other game with grass the last ten years or so >_>

[lethal granite]

laughing at mental image of bed potatoes

it’ll be rough to go back, ngl. i had my PC built bc the game became unplayable on Switch after the update with the umm… 0.180 update i think? like, talk to NPC = game crash broken. it was weirdly more stable wrt crashing when i last played on switch (october), but there were other things that were p atrocious (it taking longer to use the fast travel signs to get to the market than just running to the market from my plot, for instance )

[lethal granite]

foliage is the one part i didn’t like! although maybe i should’ve turned it back on when i started getting more sq fairy mantises than cyls…

[torn kindle]

Bed potato mode activated

Haha yes the fast travels take ages and they also have a 50% chance of making my whole Switch crash Well any map change really, could make the game crash.
I had never felt the Switch fan before Palia, now it’s like I have a hand warmer when I play.

[pulsar meteor]

this was the thing which surprised me most after i upgraded my video card, suddenly the west entrance to town got uncanny valley vibes because it didn't look right and it took forever to figure out why

[lethal granite]

ooo i’m jealous

(wait, i’m still in bed too, just working )

yeah i have an OG switch and it’s been so interesting to see how differently each Switch is affected by bugs. there’s general ones like the fast travel boards, but, like… how did the game get way less crash-y for me when they started monthly maji market vs. before when just talking to NPCs would crash it?? meanwhile the market was unplayable for so many Switch players… yikes.

[lethal granite]

loool. i actually prefer it without foliage. iirc there’s flowers in the overworld we can’t use to decorate with but they also just distract me and can end up hiding bugs/chapaa.

[pulsar meteor]

i remember spice sprout safaris in the lavender ocean back in the olden days, yeah :/

[torn kindle]

Working bed potato

They probably worked on some part of performance issues. I will report back when PC is here (less than two hours )

[torn kindle]

Ooh wait is this gonna be a pb for real?
Like you can miss forage items because of the flowers?

[pulsar meteor]

they toned it down significantly from earlier tests and it's way less common now, at least in my experience. but i don't catch bugs and i'm only an opportunistic forager these days

[lethal granite]

new pc hype

[lethal granite]

i had issues with seeing bugs, that was the only real hindrance. but they also flock to me naturally, so… not sure if that was meeks-specific…

[torn kindle]

meeksects

[lethal granite]

[ember lynx]

the outfit is giving caitlyn kieraman

god im so excited for the elderwoods update im so impatient lol but i wont rush the devs, ik its better if they take their time to amke ti more playable

[lethal granite]

it’s my favorite. checkmate from the queen’s gambit set iirc.

[ember lynx]

ive been debating on whether to get that one too hehe its so cute

[lethal granite]

it was the first one i bought. bought many others over time, but always seemed to come back to it X) same with autumn flutterfox (although i think i only ever bought the spring/winter fox and umbral wol pets, so not as large a selection to choose from.)

[torn kindle]

What’s in the jar?👀

[lethal granite]

porato

[ember lynx]

im trying to save up and im in college so i shouldnt be spending more money on palia lol which is why i gotta be careful about deciding which set i buy

[ember rampart]

Welp...the game got so crazy, that cutting trees and having Muujins running away, it sends you to cosmos

[lethal granite]

ooo yeah save your monies for your education. palia won’t be there forever, your education will! they do have sales, at least.

[ember lynx]

yee :3 thats why im waiting for the next sale and hoarding my coins hehe

as of rn im thinking of going with the new year dancer fit. i know its not new years anymore but its just so cute and i love the color schemes ;w;

[normal saddle]

Do we have any further news on things yet? I don't want to be impatient, but at the same time, it feels like forever since they announced something other than premuim shop stuff.

Dang, ight

[lyric night]

info for next patch should probably be in the next 2 days, if they don't do a hardcore delay
but next patch will be filler anyways, so furniture and premium shop like the other few updates I fear

[warm python]

I'm looking forward anyway

[thick sundial]

The goblin is back and wondering what’s going on with Palia

[warm python]

Same stuff different day though we did have a fun convo yesterday about the CM job listing on their website

[boreal forge]

the usual...game still littered with bugs, more gets introduced with each patch and the dev team remains silent, per usual.

[west marlin]

I hear we're getting one of the most highly requested features next patch

[ivory vessel]

are the requests in the room with us?

[brisk spruce]

more potato pods?

[west marlin]

Teehee

[rare pine]

For my Switch to be able to run the game without crashing so much?

[brisk spruce]

ohh yeah that's a good one

[warm python]

imagine a world....

[normal saddle]

Another 30 dollar outfit I'll have to wait until sale to consider buying?

[ember rampart]

What about the old ones that we didn't manage to get? Will they ever come back or we lost our chance forever? lol

[lyric night]

u can't miss out on potato pods bcs we get random bags and they will keep using them as their go to login rewards etc.

• trading exists

[ember rampart]

I know about trading, but what random bags? From where? And login rewards? Wasn't this last year or...?

[lyric night]

we get potato pod bags every now and then which include 1 out of all the available potato pods

[normal saddle]

Every once in a while they give us a random bag for logging in before a certain day of the month

Sometimes we get two!

[lyric night]

yeah usually 2 during a patch, 1 for every login period lasting 2 weeks + another 1-2 through twitch drops

which were skipped this patch bcs of stickers, we will probably return to potato pods next patch again

[ember rampart]

Oh, damn...I didn't know how this works, but apparently all of us get them. I was worried that I missed my chance to collect them all

[lyric night]

yeah no worries u will be able to get a lot more in the future

[pulsar meteor]

we already had beards though

[west marlin]

I meant real blonde hair 😭 im still here waiting

[pulsar meteor]

me still hoping we get Brent's hair from PVP online, it's the only thing my character is missing, but since the low-gather ponytail is going to clip through every backpack, i suspect i'm wishing in vain 😭

[cinder comet]

On my knees begging for not yellow blonde hair or dirty blonde hair

[west marlin]

Prayer circle for plat blonde hair

[cinder comet]

I’m holding out for tattoos too.

There’s so many NPCs that have tattoos and some level of piercings that I would also like those options. 🫡

[south sparrow]

Is there an update coming? Keep hearing comments about what it includes but I haven't seen any announcements

[olive carbon]

We haven't gotten any announcements, when we do it'll be in #📢│palia-news

[nimble gulch]

Sigh really hoping we get patch news tomorrow

[dry swift]

Well, you know what they say if we don't. No news is good news, right?

[fiery perch]

I'm hoping this gets changed soon since we brought up the issue with Appy.

Same with hitting trees 😓

[olive carbon]

I think it was @fiery perch or Kali who had a visual explanation on how the particle effects can be worse on high graphics

[rare pine]

Another flashbang bug? We live in Spain but the s is silent

[fiery perch]

(not mine, Tarina made this)

It actually is worse on low graphics. It's still bad on high, but for low (specifically the "effects" setting/slider) it is... awful.

[olive carbon]

I noticed it's very bad sometimes when I'm catching snails along the coastline and am throwing bug bombs into the "water" there on the beach- it sometimes interacts with the puddles/ripple effect and flashes across the entire screen

[fiery perch]

Oh that sounds absolutely dreadful 😓

[fiery perch]

As Ciri said, this has been an issue for a while. I didn't bring it up sooner, since I thought it was something intentional. (And quite frankly, at the time, I had little to no spoons... and then I forgot since I rarely played Palia then ... and well, now i guess, too)

Then Snowball issue happened, that got fixed... and the hitting bugs, trees, etc, is so similar that well... it must not be intentional, right?? (in my view/opinion).

I have very old screengrabs, but nothing recent. If it's still an issue after the next patch, I'll probably try to grab some (again).

Esp if it's to help compare low vs high. An issue on both, but def important to show it on both settings too for comparison 😓

[rare pine]

Mmm I see. I haven't encountered that one (thankfully) But I haven't went out the gather resources in a long LONG time since I have no space.

[fiery perch]

Hitting bugs, etc, was one I usually didn't notice cuz... I rarely do that. And I usually aim a smoke-bomb and immediately look away, assuming i caught it And I just don't hit trees anymore bc i got tired of having to look away all the time. It does feel like on a smaller scale, though, compared to snowballs. (for me, anyways. i haven't had it take my entire screen, thankfully.)

I'm not sure how it looks on switch either. I wonder if that's different.

[rare pine]

It's possible that the bug doesn't exist at all on the switch due to graphical limitations.

I guess it makes sense that I haven't seen it then. I HATE bug catching.

[scarlet hazel]

I haven't bothered to play in awhile cause of the continuous bugs that keep showing back up

[lethal granite]

can you make sure you get it with all bug bomb types? iirc the one shot super smoke bomb was particularly bad

[quick anvil]

Ive been playing this game since the start on and off but.. still dont know what actually the point is of leveling up in skills? We dont get any message that we get better in the skill? Fishing is equally sucky at level 40 than at level 1?

[fiery perch]

sure! i'll try to remember to do this when the next patch drops

[fiery perch]

(someone correct me please if im wrong)
But as far as I know, there's only 2 skills that have any improvements the more you level it. That's Gardening and Cooking.

Gardening after lvl... 20? 25? (can't remember which) will always produce starred quality crops.
Cooking increases the chance of giving starred food (I believe.) I don't remember the exact statistic or anything with Cooking, though. That one is moreso what I've heard.

maybe lovely and helpful @olive carbon remembers a bit more than me

[quick anvil]

Yeah but.. is that actually the case? I mean, is it intentional? Seeing as the game doesnt tell us about this? At this point, it may as well be some sort of bug lol..

[fiery perch]

I would assume so since this has been the case since closed beta. At least with Gardening (and I'd assume cooking).

[quick anvil]

What should be there is some sort of skill tree that we get to choose how our skills progress after we reach certain levels...

[hollow crescent]

i fr think the gardening one should be looked at to give an item that’s only usable once your past that point to make things star or something :D but yes the other skills too need a little reason to level them up as well

[fiery perch]

We've actually discussed this a few times and wish and hope for this. @loud axle actually tried to give feedback on that and even tried to give ideas (which also were really well-done and thought out) with skill tree ideas, too .. but alas...

(sorry for ping, but i always want to appreciate you, Roan)

[quick anvil]

And yes, we can tell we only get star produce by now lol, but since we dont get a notification that this is something we unlocked, its just.. not satisfying at all

[quick anvil]

This, so much!

[olive carbon]

Correct, at level 25 all crops become all starred all the time. And yes it's intentional to scale profits for you later game. Other reasons to level skills

• levels 10, 25, and 50 come with trophies
• skill medals can be used for decor of course but certain others can be super useful late game like cooking (buying chapaa masala for 10 guild tokens each when I'm too lazy to cook focus food), mining (buying silver bars for 25 tokens each for cheap & fast extra ore compasses), hunting & fishing (buying fireworks or glow worms in bulk and selling for profit)

[hollow crescent]

mhm but i’d like the option to get non star as well, especially if i use non star seeds

[fiery perch]

That's something that is kinda... just Palia/S6. Not always full confirmations on things, and some things, the playerbase has to kinda just... figure out or find out lol. Like drop rates. 😓

Still hoping communication improves in the future.

[fiery perch]

It'd be nice, esp since we can't gift things that are star quality...

Altho i'd just like the option to gift starred quality stuff :/

[fiery perch]

Ty Fern
I couldn't remember if it was 20 or 25 for gardening, and it was the Cooking one specifically I was fuzzy on

[olive carbon]

As long as it came with a warning & a button press to confirm I feel it'd be allowable especially if it required a certain set of pre-reqs like anything else: just make it so you have to finish all the, say, foraging acheevs before you can gift SQ items in that category

[hollow crescent]

that’s a good idea

[quick anvil]

Its just a satisfaction kind of thing for me. In other games, its all confetti and trumpets when you level up, here its like, oh yeah, you made a level... somewhen... congratz i guess. Youve earned nothing noticeable. And then yes, you may find out you get star crops or you may hear it from other players lol

But its just... not... great

[fiery perch]

Maybe.

But honestly, it used to be a thing that you could trade starred quality stuff... but it would just result in normal quality. Then they just got rid of the function completely since it wasn't intentional to be normal quality afterwards. Which just... 😓 makes me sad sometimes when I think about it.

[fiery perch]

This is how I feel in Palia in general, sometimes, depending on what it is. I don't get a lot of satisfaction when I grind or work towards something. And it's the concern I have for Elderwood when it drops, since it wont feel like...

satisfying I guess? to level your skill to get specific nodes/forageables/etc etc, since... well, chances are, most folks will have their skills up that high already anyways...

It's why we've tried to ask and suggest for more earnables. more things to work towards instead of hitting the same thing over and over, and hoping what youre looking for drops. Because some of the RNG and drop rates is just... dreadful. 😓

[olive carbon]

Cooking is so hard to deduce because not only is it influenced by the cooking level, but also the quality of the crops & drops (forages don't need to be starred so this is the phrase I coined to remember), the timing & precision of the mini games, and when not solo cooking it seems to account for the average cooking level of the group- all very hard to independently test & analyze from a player perspective.

[fiery perch]

To the point where, I remember when the Sushi recipe was bugged and wasn't able to be fished up for ages... and people (and support at the time) thought it was just because of the drop rate...

But it turned out it just... wasn't able to be fished 😓 . It was thankfully fixed now, but it just always worries me something like that will happen again.

[olive carbon]

So many things come to mind when thinking about "it wasn't functioning as intended, so they took it away and never gave it back," and that stinks, yeah

[fiery perch]

Yep! This is why I was always fuzzy on, and just was like "well other people say this is the case, so... I wonder hmm maybe "

[quick anvil]

absolutely yes! Skill trees would be excellent for this. Easily resettable ones.. Do you want a quicker way to hit nodes with less chance on rares? Or do you want to hit nodes for longer but get more rares maybe, etc etc... So many possibilityies to make the game more unique to every player.

[fiery perch]

(not pinging roan here)
But this was some of the ideas Roan had previously with Skill Trees

(again not mine, this is from Roan and his ideas/concepts! Linked/replied to it above this comment)

Hi Roannn

[loud axle]

Always appreciate you gassing me up Ori ♥️

[fiery perch]

Always! Your input has always been lovely, and it's always a pleasure theory-crafting and talking about concepts with you

[olive carbon]

⛽

[loud axle]

Palia: what could have been!

Even more than the skill tree I wish they did my "classes" ideas for skills 😦

[olive carbon]

Yes and I've not seen a concise confirmation of level numbers like we know about gardening ever, I'm always keeping my peepers peeled for information though so if I ever come across that tidbit I'll be sure to try to remember to pass it on

[fiery perch]

Same. I feel like I've seen it somewhere..? maybe?, but i'll have to dig around again. If I do happen to see anything, will send it your way too!

[quick anvil]

Not bad not bad. Id really would love to see more choice and not just a playthrough of already predefined skills. So, for example, level 1, you get to pick, do you want to increase teh width of your fishing brackets or do you want less reel dropped when the fish goes outside of the bracket? Stuff like that. So that players can adapt to how they play. Its the same for combat oriented rpgs, you get to adapt the skills to your playstyle.

[fiery perch]

It would of been so nice :( genuinely

More concepts/ideas from Roan ^

And here about Classes/Specializations ^

[loud axle]

Thank you for saving me the trouble of typing it out again Ori lol

[fiery perch]

Lol, i figured you were starting that, so thought it'd be better to find some of what you said previously, to save ya the trouble

[quick anvil]

A game of potential

[loud axle]

Yeah that's the frustrating part about it. The skeleton is there, it just has no meat on the bones

[olive carbon]

You're just the greatest I didn't get to see these before, thanks for bringing them back around!

[loud axle]

They were so worried about appealing to a casual audience they forgot they need to actually get people to... Play their game for longer than a couple dozen hours

[fiery perch]

Ofc! Whenever I have a chance to share the ideas/concepts Roan has said before... I will do it hahaha

[lethal granite]

yet somehow when sushi eats your sq dari and doesn’t come out sq, it feels like an insult lol

[olive carbon]

Bro me and sushi got beef......uh, fish?...... Me and sushi are fighting lmao

[marsh depot]

I wouldn't mind a game that appeals to a casual audience if said experience was not frustrating and filled with RNG systems and bugs. What's casual about having to grind for hours for a single plushie?

[quartz kestrel]

The RNG is pretty bad in this game. It's not funny...

[olive carbon]

Any time I make fishing boosts for myself especially I end up with one starred stack and one unstarred. That's so annoying for a organization fiend

[lethal granite]

which is weird, cos the actual start of the game is such a grind that i’d think it wouldn’t appeal to a lot of folks.

[quartz kestrel]

That one broken ladder n the temple was so annoying

[loud axle]

Hmm see I disagree with that, for me the beginning of the game was very enjoyable but I felt like I progressed way too quickly into the "endgame" grinding of Palium / Flowwood for the rest of eternity

[fiery perch]

I still wish there was a pity system of some kind, so you're guaranteed eventually for said drop. or being able to trade (with an NPC) specific amount of something ... like, maybe x amoutn of starred fish, so you can get a starred fish of your choosing. (would need more starred fish for higher quality of course)

But for the plushies... I think it could even work if little "tickets" (or something that makes more sense) could drop that you can earn, and trade those in for a plush of your choosing.

Just something so it's actually an earnable & work towards, instead of getting frustrated that nothing is dropping. It gets so demotivating, discouraging and overall just... unsatisfying once it does drop (imo, and personally).

[lethal granite]

i remember not having any gold and being incredibly frustrated/feeling very hindered by that specifically.

[marsh depot]

Palia is the definition of what happens when you halfass two things.

[lethal granite]

but once i hit the top level skills, all i had was… zeki coins to spend my gold on. and housing stuff.

it went from frustrating to easy so quickly.

[loud axle]

Maybe because I was mainly doing bug catching I had tons of gold lol

Nothing to spend it on either.

[fiery perch]

Some of it I think is because, it's advertised as "cosy" and for a lot of folks, imo, grinding can be cosy/chill to do. Not to mention, some ppl got into Palia bc they were thinking it'd be similar to SDV but... mmo/multiplayer (which it isnt imo, but.. yea).

I enjoy grinding. I enjoy getting lots of materials. I love idle/clicker games. But with this game, it "ended" so quickly, and then I realized there was no real goal or earnables. So it made it difficult for me, personally. 😓

[lethal granite]

🤔 don’t think that was my issue, lol.

i’ve only ever fully decorated two plots, decor wasn’t really my thing. maybe that was my issue xD

[ivory vessel]

that's cuz there is no point, hope that helps
(joke, i know people have already given the actual answers, but it kinda boils down to... what i said, in a way)

[fiery perch]

Just makes me want to say this, which I say so often, esp when it comes to palia it seems:
Time is valuable and is important!!!

[quick anvil]

Yeaaahh saame! And see, if they were to make different classes, making a new character and leveling it up (if leveling actually would have a point to it) would be SO much fun and keep the game more memorizeable. Now new player instream has ended and its just.. the beginning of the game seems kinda dead

[hollow crescent]

i just hope with the addition of new areas soon that maybe things are relooked at for their value, cuz you don’t want a situation where ppl are staying in a certain area cuz the money is better on x bugs/etc (don’t wanna be in kilima/bahari forever after all)

[fiery perch]

Careful, that'll get things nerfed even more and again. /silly

[loud axle]

Yeah this is one of my major worries. The game has very little forward momentum or sense of progression to it. The fact that they didn't cap skill levels to start with was always concerning to me... We'll see what happens with Elderwoods though I guess

[polar elbow]

My idea of cozy is "low stress"- while I don't consider heavy grinding stressful, pity-less RNG is very stressful. And wayyyy too much of palia revolves around tasks with pity-less RNG rewards.

[fiery perch]

I still can't get over that you can reach such a high level for Skills right now. Just... I don't even know how to explain or word it, but I know you feel the same over it. Esp since we have the same concerns.

And it just goes back to what we were discussing earlier... Feels like skills dont mean much to level (except for Gardening and potentially cooking).

[lethal granite]

i love grinding too, which is why i stuck with the game. i just can imagine people who don’t like grinding starting the game and getting sick of it quickly and dropping off. then folks like us who love grinding do stick with the grind, only to have any real benefits from the leveling up end so quickly. the game had basically 3 states for me — grinding yet feeling like i had nothing except renown, middle period where i started getting the advanced tools+getting to know the villagers+doing temples/quests+finally having enough gold to start building house (this part felt best to me), then… go do weeklies and help people get plushes/bugs, go to underground to buy zeki coins when at cap, rinse, repeat. and the last part is where i spent the majority of my time in the game. and it’s not rewarding.

[quick anvil]

I have so much to play already but still gonna ask.. which one? 😄

[ivory vessel]

oh i love that game :')
*and i also shall not speak of it any further

[dry swift]

I wish I could talk about Palia, but the updates are so far and few between there's nothing to really talk about. If I wanted to talk about weekly cash shop updates I could just be talking about any other modern-monetization game.

[dark moon]

We can always discuss kenli

[dry swift]

Eh... I'm just bored of speculating updates for the future of the game. I want actual fun tech to talk about. Like drop rates, or bugs that actually make the game more enjoyable.

[dark moon]

I enjoy Leo, the muujin space program. I always wanted to fly

[warm python]

I just want the new update info to drop so there can be convos about that

[dry swift]

That's implying that S6 keeps its promises and actually made an effort to improve communication.

[warm python]

Oh, I severely doubt that

I just want to see some new things talked about

[quartz kestrel]

Drop rates? Abysmal